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clear igloo
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I do both

tame carbon
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@hollow marlin who are you to tell me that i am that guy

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maybe i like dhcp

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maximum control

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LOL and it broke again.

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I had this guy remove all his devices, plug in just his router, and PC into the switch

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all good

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and then his wireless broke, the moment he plugged other devices back into the switch

hollow marlin
tame carbon
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I quit using v6 alltogether.

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stupid geoblocking

hollow marlin
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Also hes not looping anything up is he or dup IP? What devices is he plugging into the switch after the router and PC is plugged in?

rocky badge
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SLAAC good enough for me

clear igloo
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Do you at least do nd ra advertisement for dns?

waxen scroll
rocky badge
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Yea, I advertise my dns server for SLAAC

clear igloo
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Nice

rocky badge
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Managed RA iirc

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Since my dns has a static IPv6

clear igloo
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yup

rocky badge
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Since my VMs VLAN actually uses dhcpv6

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So I can give them statics

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Fun playing around with a /48 😛

peak cloak
rocky badge
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Tunnel lol

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I get ~400mbps through it

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So good enuf

peak cloak
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my ipv6 is borked

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I need a new router

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can't use Hardware acceleration and ipv6 at the same time

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filed a bug report

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never got back

tame carbon
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puts a mikrotik on a silver platter

tribal ferry
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How do I check if a Cisco product is still under licensing requirements?

clear igloo
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you mean if the license is valid?

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show license status on most products

tribal ferry
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I mean if the product still requires a license for most of its functionality

clear igloo
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honor based

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It doesn't

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it will spit out a command at boot but all nexus are honor based licenses 🙂

tribal ferry
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how do I check that for other products?

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ah alright

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all, even new, nexus products do that?

clear igloo
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yup

tribal ferry
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what's the point of them doing that?

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why not just do a full lock down of it lol

clear igloo
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They will, one day, transition to smart licenses maybe 😛

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support is the main thing

tribal ferry
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ah

clear igloo
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you can enable it but probably won't get support if you open a tac case for it

tribal ferry
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rma too i assume?

clear igloo
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RMA needs a support contract, that I know

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since you can have different speed levels up to 2 hour replacement

tribal ferry
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how does 2 hour replacement work?

clear igloo
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with speed 😛

tribal ferry
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where do they supply the switch from if you're in the middle of nowhere

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lol

clear igloo
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Depends on the customer but most have a depot nearby their data centers and other big locations

tribal ferry
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ah alright

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i heard for nexus switches, it's basically cli only and the standalone gui is extremely expensive unless if you use dcnm

clear igloo
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For general license stuff show license status or sh license summary is what I use

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no real gui for nxos

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all api driven or dcnm

tribal ferry
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dcnm for 2 or more switches or is that truly for actual full dc's with hundreds

clear igloo
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There is a gui but it's more for api calls and testing on the nexus boxes via https

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I wouldn't use DCNM unless I had hundreds of switches 🙂

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DCNM is mostly SAN or VxLAN targeted

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but you can do standard non-vxlan stuff too

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I use it on the regular

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I've got a couple customers who are using a single instance with API calls to roll out updates to their legacy nexus boxes. Bring in like 200, update, drop them out of DCNM, and repeat

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Then they have dedicated instances for fabric devices

tribal ferry
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what sort of nexus switch would be best to use if you have a half rack or 4u+ colo rental?

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don't need this atm but i might in the future

clear igloo
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10g, 40g, 100g?

tribal ferry
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10g

clear igloo
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I'd just stick with a nexus 3k or 5548 depending on the 10g density you need

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just make sure you have an l3 daughter card for the 5548 if you need L3 capability

tribal ferry
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this?

clear igloo
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yah

tribal ferry
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better to use the 5548 or a 3k lineup switch?

clear igloo
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I'd say about the same, just depends on what you can get for the better price used

tribal ferry
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what are the license options, what is restricted in the honor system?

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broadly

clear igloo
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5k uses cisco asic and 3k uses merchant asics iirc

clear igloo
tribal ferry
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well yeah, but I'm saying what would I be missing out on with the baseline license

clear igloo
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Nothing, it's all there from the get go

tribal ferry
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then what are the licenses for, just support?

clear igloo
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audit purposes and support for the most part

tribal ferry
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i'm saying, is it like "you're not supposed to use x feature unless if you buy x license"

clear igloo
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yes

tribal ferry
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like what features are you supposed to buy licenses for

clear igloo
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bgp, vxlan, and other higher tier stuff

tribal ferry
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ah alright

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so in this situation i probably wouldn't need any of that

clear igloo
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Yah, and even if you do you'll get a log message about it and that's it

tribal ferry
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hm alright, that's good to know

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they don't seem extremely expensive on ebay either

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their campus-level switches do have the actual smart licenses though, right?

clear igloo
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the catalyst 9000 stuff does, yah

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older stuff like 3750s and whatnot were just enable the license level and go

tribal ferry
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the oldies, yeah

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well ty for the information

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i don't need any of that yet but it's good to know about the licenses as that was my primary concern about purchasing cisco hardware

clear igloo
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yah, feel free to tag or DM me if you have any questions too

tribal ferry
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one last thing

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do you know of any nxos online demos?

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the cli

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they didn't seem to have anything in their demo zone

clear igloo
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There is dcloud but I can't remember if you need a account only or a contract too

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I think it's open, just need to log in

tribal ferry
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Yeah, I just saw the link to that

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resource does not exist x2

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hm

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been looking on ebay and I've seen a lot of these nexus switches labeled as "fabric extenders"

clear igloo
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Ah, those are "headless"

tribal ferry
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some older architecture?

clear igloo
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a fex goes into a parent switch and adds ports

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goes into, I mean is cabled into

tribal ferry
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so it's basically a modular switch but just not in one chassis

clear igloo
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Yah

tribal ferry
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do they work standalone?

clear igloo
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Nope

tribal ferry
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ah alright

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was wondering why they were listed for so cheap lol

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what do they need to be connected to for them to work?

clear igloo
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yah, the 2300 series can do a little switching but beyond that everything is forwarded to the parent 3k/5k/7k/9k switch for processing

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any parent switch will work, so a 3k/5k/7k/9k series switch will work

tribal ferry
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the switches just connected with normal sfp+?

clear igloo
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yes

tribal ferry
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damn everything on ebay for nexus switches seems to be a fabric extender lol

tame carbon
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found 1 network loop

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and a wifi extender, which was poorly configured, which also loops

hollow marlin
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ooooo people are so made that Azure is down right now

tame carbon
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azure is down?

hollow marlin
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Globally

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Well mostly

tribal ferry
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ad is down

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globally

tame carbon
hollow marlin
clear igloo
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It's down so hard it can't even tell you how down the data center is

tribal ferry
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I'm getting flashbacks to that Workspace outage a few months ago

hollow marlin
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Its OK, people on twitter are letting them know how many thousands of dollars they are losing. Its so important they forgot to account for putting all their eggs in the Azure basket pepoJuice

clear igloo
tribal ferry
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high 👏 availability 👏

hollow marlin
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shhh....they don't speak about that

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Just point the blame at someone else

clear igloo
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No, it's highly available, it's even 5 9's
(if you expand the timeline view) 😛

tribal ferry
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realistically if you want 100% uptime you should have ha and failover across multiple cloud providers in multiple regions

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if you can afford that

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lol

clear igloo
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At least it's not as bad as telling OVH it's unprofessional to be down due to a fire

hollow marlin
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Too expensive for these people saying they lost 100,000s in and hour

tribal ferry
tribal ferry
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Let me go find it

tribal ferry
clear igloo
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yikes!

tribal ferry
hollow marlin
untold elbow
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what should i do with my intel nuc

hollow marlin
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Install EVE and start labbing. More networking!

untold elbow
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The MMO?

tame carbon
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@untold elbow mine dogecoin kek

thick minnow
tame carbon
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@hollow marlin I have a metal 52ac in the mail

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gonna test it out soon :)

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see how much range it can do

hollow marlin
tame carbon
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@hollow marlin I primarily want them for long range base coverage for outdoors

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2.4GHz

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was thinking about using one of those mAnt sector antennas in 5GHz for high density locations

cedar igloo
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bit of a long shot, but does anyone know if there's a way to use tls passthrough with haproxy to services using the consul resolver?
I currently have the following configuration:

frontend http
    bind *:80
    acl demo path_beg /demo
    use_backend DEMO if demo
backend DEMO
  balance roundrobin
  server-template demo-webapp 3 _demo-webapp._tcp.service.consul resolvers consul resolve-opts allow-dup-ip resolve-prefer ipv4 check

but an wanting to bind it to port 443 and let the service handle tls

tame carbon
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you need a tcp socket

hollow marlin
tame carbon
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Supposedly, I expect 40-50 meters range

hollow marlin
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We used to peer with a WISP that was all Mikrotik, but never saw what APs he used

tender hazel
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mikrotik wireless AC doesn't perform as well as the competitors, for PtMP fixed wireless outdoors anyway

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their 60ghz equipment is great

tame carbon
tender hazel
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yes, we have the (discontinued) 900mhz version of that in operation at some sites

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they look like lightsabers when the omni antenna is attached

tame carbon
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I think on the metal ac

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if you crank TX power up

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it does something like 1.4w

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which is a crazy amount of output for a wireless station

tender hazel
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that's probably going above regulations

tame carbon
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@tender hazel ultimate hack on the mikrotik

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you set your country to DRC

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Congo aint got no wifi regulations

tender hazel
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can't do that with the US model

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that would only work with international

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and if someone complains you could be hit by a fine, depending on what country you are in

hollow marlin
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I'm not looking at P2MP. Just P2P.
If I can decide on a decent AP, I'll do the splice to the site to shoot back from the road.

tender hazel
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how far of a P2P link?

tame carbon
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@tender hazel I'm deploying these in a valley in a mountainous/forested area

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4km from the nearby town

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but then again

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its bunch of germans

hollow marlin
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It has to be in the realm of 1-1.5k ft

tame carbon
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they be paper pushers

tender hazel
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ah crap, imperial

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have to convert

tender hazel
hollow marlin
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Yeah LoS is not a problem, nor is anything over 100mbps

tender hazel
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60ghz will give you 1000Mbps

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(full duplex)

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mikrotik sells the radios in pairs, already preconfigured to link with the other side

tame carbon
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@tender hazel how many users can a typical 2.4GHz AP even handle?

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the benefit I have is that I am in an environment with no external radio sources or interference

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we only have overhead powerlines

tender hazel
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"how many users" is a tricky question

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how much bandwidth do you want to give them?

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overhead powerlines should not matter at all

tame carbon
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@tender hazel its a very very large area

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@tender hazel about 250 camping spots

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and we have a 1000/500 line

tender hazel
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you're not going to cover that all with one antenna

tame carbon
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@tender hazel I was planning on setting up a network with capsman

tender hazel
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are you using CPE devices on the client side?

hollow marlin
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Yeah I know 60ghz would handle gig at that distance but its just a bonus. Its one of our 2 camp, its just a get away and need it for the times when working remote. Its in the mountains just outside of LTE. Luckily we have fiber on that road and I already talked the higher ups and they provide it, free if they make me do the splice.

tame carbon
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@tender hazel yeah, well I'm going over there soon

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and we can run cables to some parts of the camping

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some things have to be done point to point

tender hazel
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you can't use capsman if you are going to use mikrotik cpe devices

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capsman is intended for wifi deployments only

tame carbon
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yes

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thats it

tender hazel
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with cell phones and laptops etc as direct clients

tame carbon
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we just need a single wireless network across the entire area

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and every client gets a small amount of bandwidth

tender hazel
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you will need to put up a bunch of antennas

tame carbon
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Yes

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I bought one of those metal 52 ac's to test and see what its capabilities are

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but I cannot test it with many devices

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roughly

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10-15 antennas maybe?

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high estimate

tender hazel
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I'm not sure the metal 52 is going to be the best choice for a dense deployment like that

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the issue is that the radios are single chain

tame carbon
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what do you recommend instead?

tender hazel
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quite a few devices are dual chain and you can get more bandwidth out of it

tame carbon
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@tender hazel yeah but a single ap

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will not really have more than 10-20 people at most

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and its ok if they only get 8-10 mbit

tender hazel
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and you would need a dual chain omni to go with it

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the alternative is you could go with sectors

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the only problem with the sectors is they aren't shielded, you'll want to add rf shields behind if you use those

tame carbon
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hm?

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you mean

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grounding them?

tender hazel
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no

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hang on I will send a link, in the meantime, here is another good option: https://mikrotik.com/product/mantbox_52_15s

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it is dual band so you get 2ghz and 5ghz at the same time

tame carbon
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ooh

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those are nice

cedar igloo
tame carbon
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strange

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I didnt come across this when I was browsing

tender hazel
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Here is the shielding

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it is basically a metal box missing the front part

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it attenuates transmissions going out the rear and back sides of the antenna

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that way you can have multiple sectors on a tower and it limits interference between them

tame carbon
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100 bucks for a shield?

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wtf

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no ty

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@tender hazel well, let me put it this way, I think omni directional is still better then

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we don't need that high speed really

tender hazel
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I'm not saying you need the shield, but it improves things

tame carbon
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don't you think a couple of those omnitiks is better?

tender hazel
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they don't make the 2ghz omnitiks anymore

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the 5ghz ac omnitiks would be ok, as long as everybody has 5ghz radios

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but some people may only have 2.4ghz

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my dad bought a new laptop just four years ago and it only had 2.4ghz

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in the future you will be able to get away with just providing 5ghz but I do not think that is the case yet

tame carbon
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@tender hazel I'll probably end up putting a bunch of those regular omni directional antennas on there with 2.4GHz

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range is more important

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in areas with a lot of people, I can just add one of those 5Ghz omni tiks to the pole

tender hazel
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keep in mind that omnis decrease your range a bit vs sectors, but that may not matter so much when your devices are mobile with lower power transmitters

tame carbon
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yeah but unimpeded

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look

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we only need 5GHz in seated areas

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like the pool, tent area and the terace

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everything else should just be wide range 2.4GHz coverage

tender hazel
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the mantbox 15s doesn't have 120 degree sectors so it isn't a good choice, looking at it

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the mantbox 2 12s could be an option:

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they cover 120 degrees.. you could have three on a tower or pole covering 360 degrees

tame carbon
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yeah but we only need like 180 degrees at most

tender hazel
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there are three non overlapping 20mhz channels in the 2.4ghz band

tame carbon
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my idea was to just have APs in a trapezoid config

tender hazel
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if you don't need 360 degrees of coverage I probably wouldn't go with an omni, because you are firing RF energy to where you don't need it instead of focusing it towards the users

tame carbon
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moar gain

tender hazel
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if you only need 180 degrees of coverage you could have just two sectors

tame carbon
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microwave on a pole

tender hazel
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since the sectors are built into the radios you don't have to worry about water getting in the connector and other things like that

tame carbon
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@tender hazel two sounds reasonable

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so we could just have then along the entire length of the area

tender hazel
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it is annoying when you have to climb a pole because the weather seal broke and it rained and water is in the connector and so signals drop 30dB

tame carbon
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every 60 or so meters

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two sector antennas facing away from each other

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and then alternate the channels

tender hazel
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yes

tame carbon
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can you bind a specific channel to an AP within a caps group?

tender hazel
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yes

tame carbon
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I've only done minor configurations with, have to look it up

tender hazel
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it isn't obvious how to do so, I had to futz around a bit to figure it out

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but we do that

tame carbon
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@tender hazel there are also potentially a couple APs that we cannot feed by cable

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what about that?

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I've seen those circular APs they ahve

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but I am unsure on what to look out for

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setting up a point to point link

tender hazel
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there might be an easier way vs setting up an additional device

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you could potentially use a few of the mantbox dual chain ones

tame carbon
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we have power all across the area

tender hazel
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tame carbon
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so that is not an issue

tender hazel
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you could use the 5ghz radio not for customers but as a backhaul

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to one of the other sites that is wired

tame carbon
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does that mean they need to face eachother?

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and what kind of range can I expect?

tender hazel
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within the beam width: 90° (2.4 GHz), 60° (5 GHz)

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the mantbox 52 15s sector is only 60 degrees wide

tame carbon
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so wait

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look in pm

tender hazel
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I've been working with wireguard on my mikrotik

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I've never really been too interested in pfsense

peak cloak
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pfsense kinda sucks because you are running a whole big x86 computer with like no dedicated hardware acceleration

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Large power consumption and cost compared to a dedicated router

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and you need a reallly powerful box for high speed routing

tender hazel
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are you just using it for ad blocking?

peak cloak
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while you can get something much cheaper with a dedicated router

tender hazel
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personally, ads don't bother me that much that I would set up a dedicated system for that

peak cloak
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for anything above 1 gig

tender hazel
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there are browser plugins that can block them too

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I'm not too bothered by the information that is collected in the cookies

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the only annoying thing is that if you want to shop for something like a toaster, you get recommendations for great toasters until the end of time

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way after you actually purchased the toaster and you no longer need a toaster

thick minnow
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most isps use transparent dns anyway so if you are really concerned about ads and privacy you should take a layered approach

peak cloak
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yeah that's not the main issue, noise and power usage is the main one for me

thick minnow
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best i can do is an example ...

peak cloak
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oh looked it up

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so interecepting dns

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just use DNS over TLS or HTTPS

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if you want ultimate dns privacy use unbound lol

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goes to root servers directly

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and caches

tender hazel
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I work for an ISP, and we run our own DNS servers.. we don't snoop on our customers DNS requests

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we have the ability to, sure, but we don't

rocky badge
peak cloak
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don't have comcast

rocky badge
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Even if you don't have them, doesn't matter

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Firefox has the ability to use Comcast DoH servers in the TRR program

peak cloak
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huh

peak cloak
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can't you just use DNS over TLS directly to cf

rocky badge
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You can yeah

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but Firefox by default will use those

tender hazel
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one of the issues with DNS over HTTPS is VPN's

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when you are on an internal corporate network there is probably a split DNS

peak cloak
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well yeah

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DNS over HTTPS on your router

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I wouldn't bother on my end device

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I have a dns server at home as well

rocky badge
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I don't do DoH on individual devices yeah

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I just have my DNS servers doing it

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Firefox doesn't do DoH in specific scenarios

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Chrome doesn't do DoH on managed browsers

tender hazel
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we can enable DoH on our customers routers and we can probably set up our powerdns dnsdist servers to respond to DoH, but we can still log into our customers routers and look at the DNS cache

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so I'm not sure what the point of doing that would be for us, since I don't think it would give our customers any more privacy

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even if we enabled DoH on their router, we could still log into their router and view the cache

tender hazel
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however we give our customers full access to their routers, so they could block our access if they wanted to

zinc ember
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Some knows how to setup FreeNas to work with jellyfin

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And how to should i install jellyfin

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One

granite elm
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I discovered rugged ethernet switches today

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I need one

tall pagoda
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Cat5e cable wired as phone cable 🧐🤔

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That is why I get no data from it

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Installation is from 2004

tender hazel
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I don't think that cat5e is wired into a cat5e socket

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there is too much space between the punch down wire connections

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you have to untwist too much cable and that will introduce more crosstalk and reduce the overall rate

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proper cat5e jacks will use a more dense punchdown so that you do not need to untwist so much cable

slate sonnet
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How would I see what ips wireguard is routing to my pc?

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I’ve setup wireguard on a vps to bypass cgnat

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So that I could host my minecraft server

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But I can’t ip ban anyone since when people connect, it shows the vps internal ip, so I would ban pretty much everyone

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Also, how would I block certain connections on my vps since I would have to block the connections instead of banning the ip in my minecraft server

tender hazel
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does your ISP provide IPv6?

slate sonnet
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Me?

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My router probably does

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My router doesn’t though

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Wait

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My isp probably does *

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My router doesn’t support ipv6

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Since it’s pretty old

tender hazel
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If your ISP gives you IPv6 you probably don't need to jump through those crazy hoops to bypass CGNAT and run your own server

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because you will have a public IPv6 address

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the only question is whether minecraft supports that and whether there is some apparatus for users who don't have IPv6 to connect to such a server

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I've never played minecraft so I have no idea about either of those things

slate sonnet
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I run a minecraft java server with mods

tender hazel
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java does not? where do you see that?

slate sonnet
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Well, that’s what I think

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I mean every server has an ipv4 address

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If people could use ipv6, why wouldn’t they?

tender hazel
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not everybody has an ISP that provides IPv6 addresses yet, but in the modern day most are starting to

thick minnow
tender hazel
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too much trouble?

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the only trouble I could foresee is some people may not have IPv6 addresses

thick minnow
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Not everyone has it and existing servers work with ipv4

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so why change

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only more work

slate sonnet
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Well the other plus of doing it my way is if someone wants to ddos me, I could just disconnect from my vps and that’s it

tender hazel
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it is stupid to have to jump through hoops to bypass CG-NAT like that

slate sonnet
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Its a route I chose

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I used to use zerotier to host my server for my friends

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Still doesn’t answer my question though

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How I would see what traffic my vps is passing to my server and how to block that traffic if I choose

tender hazel
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if it shows the VPS internal IP then you are doing NAT twice

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you're not only doing a port forward (destination NAT) but you're also doing source NAT on the traffic

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what that does is makes the traffic appear as though it were coming from your VPS instead of from the original source

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instead of doing the NAT twice just do it once

slate sonnet
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I understand that

tender hazel
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just do the destination NAT and not the source NAT

slate sonnet
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Don’t know how I would do that

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Should I send my wireguard conf?

tender hazel
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how did you set up the NAT in the first place? if you set it up in iptables you would have had to have created both the destination NAT and the source NAT rules and all you have to do is delete the source NAT rule

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it's not a wireguard thing

slate sonnet
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I didn’t do anything other than wireguard setup

thick minnow
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why my minecraft server refuses connections with error "Authentication servers are down. Please try again later, sorry!" ??

tender hazel
#

your wireguard isn't doing the NAT, your VPS must be

#

NAT is something outside of what wireguard handles, at least in my experience

#

so you need to reconfigure the NAT in your VPS which is totally separate from your wireguard config

slate sonnet
#

The last rule I added with some help from another user on this server

tender hazel
#

Yeah the masquerade rule is telling it you want to hide the sender’s ip and show the vps ip instead

#

If you don’t want that, don’t masquerade

slate sonnet
#

So just remove the masquerade?

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Like the very end of the postup and postdown line?

tender hazel
#

Yes

slate sonnet
#

The last lines, right?

tender hazel
#

Yes

slate sonnet
#

Okay

#

After that, I need to restart the service?

#

Probably a dumb question but just making sure

tender hazel
#

I would imagine so

slate sonnet
#

Okay

#

Will try it out later

#

When I get home

ivory egret
#

is ACL only something that appears only on Cisco routers?

slate sonnet
#

@tender hazel

#

Okay, nvm

#

Fixed it

#

Srry for the ping

#

Still shows up as internal ip

#

this is me logging in localhost

slate sonnet
tame carbon
#

@tender hazel that masquerade rule we added, was there for returning traffic

#

there might be a better way of doing it

#

but I couldnt think of one

slate sonnet
#

Unless that's what was supposed to happen

tame carbon
#

if you restarted wg, and it kept working then its fine

slate sonnet
#

Yeah

#

I restarted it

#

@tame carbon is there a way for me to see what ips are connected and if I need to blacklist them, how would I do that?

tame carbon
#

sudo netstat -tulpn | grep <port>

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you enter the port of a client that connects to your mc server

#

and netstat should show you where its coming from

slate sonnet
#

okay

tame carbon
#

wait, actually

#

that's the command for finding listening ports

#

try sudo netstat -a | grep <port>

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I forget what the parameters mean. Been using these so often that you forget what each flag is xD

slate sonnet
#

xD

#

As long as it works, it's fine

#

haha

peak cloak
#

It a shame

slate sonnet
#

huh

slate sonnet
tame carbon
#
 ✘ crystal@watomat  ~  sudo netstat -a | grep 80   
tcp        0      8 watomat:41002           192.168.88.91:24800     ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 watomat:41602           192.168.88.83:8008      ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 watomat:56926           192.168.88.83:8009      ESTABLISHED
tcp6       0      0 [::]:8086               [::]:*                  LISTEN     
tall pagoda
tame carbon
#

@slate sonnet you're looking for established connections

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port would be 25565

slate sonnet
#

Ugh

#

Got it

#

I thought I had to paste in the port of the client

tame carbon
#

my bad

slate sonnet
#

Still nothing :/

tame carbon
#

odd

#

@slate sonnet alternatively

#

you could write an iptables rule with action LOG

#

it would then print its output to the kernel log

#

I think because it is routing, that it doesnt show up in netstat

slate sonnet
#

Possible

slow pivot
tame carbon
#

@slow pivot tcpdump?

#

or is that also input ?

plain siren
#

His MC server is on a Windows server. IP Forwarding is much more tricky yet hasnt been mentioned here.

#

I think the problem is much more baaaaaaaaaaaasic here.

tame carbon
#

@plain siren It was a hell to configure this at all

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He's got a VPS -> WG -> MC Server host (behind CGNAT)

#

The forwarding is being done on his VPS

#

@hollow marlin guess what just came in the mail :D

mellow cloak
#

Hello, need help to add a domain i just bought to my windows server tho i have no clue how to do it >.< (noob in all this still) anyone can give me some pointers or even something to read to learn how to do it?

slate sonnet
#

@tame carbon could I use ip monitor to somehow monitor the connections?

#

(also how do you do the format of text where its easier to select?)

tame carbon
#

you mean the monospaced ?

tame carbon
#

you put ` around the message

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if you do triple ``` you can do multiline

#
this is multiline
slate sonnet
#

I'll forget it later, but I'll try and remember lmao

tame carbon
#

@slate sonnet its markdown

#

same thing github uses, but a limited subset

#

it supports code highlight too

#
public void test() {

}
#

@plain siren did any UPS maintenance recently?

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:jab:

tame carbon
plain siren
#
PostUp = iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o wg0 -p tcp --syn --dport 25565 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
PostUp = iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o wg0 -p tcp --dport 25565 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
PostUp = iptables -A FORWARD -i wg0 -o eth0 -p tcp --sport 25565  -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
PostUp = iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wg0 -p tcp --dport 25565  -d 10.0.0.2 -j SNAT --to-source YOURPUBLICIP```
tame carbon
#

@slate sonnet ^

peak cloak
peak cloak
tame carbon
#

@tall pagoda its missing 2 pairs for gigabit

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its only wired for 100M ethernet

plain siren
#

wait

tall pagoda
#

It is strange actually

peak cloak
plain siren
#

Yeah ther we go @slate sonnet there

tame carbon
#

lazy installation

plain siren
#

Change YourPublicIP to your Public IP

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of VPS

slate sonnet
#

Okay

tame carbon
#

Don't forget to add postdown rules as well

#

shut down the tunnel before modifying it

tall pagoda
#

Because in the meterkast the cable splices into a RJ45 with 6 cables attached and into a RJ11 with 2 cables attached.

slate sonnet
#

Do I delete all the other postup and postdown rules?

slate sonnet
slate sonnet
tame carbon
#

unsure how WG reads those postdown rules

#

if you modify it, before shutting it down, it may leave stale entries in the kernel iptable

slate sonnet
#

Idk how I would shut down the tunnel on my vps

tame carbon
#

systemctl

slate sonnet
#

just like, stop the service?

tame carbon
#

yes

#

@slate sonnet stopping the service disables that interface and runs those PostDown commands

slate sonnet
#

Got it

tame carbon
#

if you do somehow manage to bork the running config in the iptables

plain siren
#

PostDown = iptables -D FORWARD -i %i -j ACCEPT; iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE

tame carbon
#

just reboot the vps

#

iptable commands are not persistent

plain siren
#

PostUp = iptables -A FORWARD -i %i -j ACCEPT; iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE This shouldve also been there by default at the top line make sure it still is

tame carbon
#

@plain siren that original config we were using off github didnt work at all

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so we came up with the best I we could do

plain siren
tall pagoda
tame carbon
#

@tall pagoda not without getting rid of that 2nd port

plain siren
peak cloak
tame carbon
#

@tall pagoda 2 pairs = 100M
4 pairs = 1G

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@tall pagoda you're off better if you splice the 2nd outlet into the first one. And then using a small switch.

#

looking at that image you sent

#

you just need a punchdown tool to install

#

one of these ^

#

those things are like 5-10 bucks

peak cloak
#

or this

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the cheapest one lol

tame carbon
#

@peak cloak the one I linked automatically cuts off excess wires

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it has a knife on the tip

tall pagoda
#

I have that tool in my 2nd house which are 1400 km’s away

tame carbon
#

@tall pagoda just buy another. They wear out eventually anyways

plain siren
#

You can actually prob use the brown colored wires as the 2 telephone wires and the others as normal and itll prob be 1000mbit

peak cloak
#

I have this one as well

peak cloak
slate sonnet
plain siren
#

some stupid shit like this

peak cloak
plain siren
#

and thinking about it yeah nvm 😦

peak cloak
#

who needs phone jacks anymore anyway

tame carbon
#

phone lines are good for 100M, that's it

plain siren
#

Not using VoIP

slate sonnet
#

My ping time like doubled

#

Also now I can't connect to my mc server

#

With the new rules

plain siren
#

Show full config rn

mellow cloak
slate sonnet
tall pagoda
plain siren
# slate sonnet

PostUp = iptables -A FORWARD -i %i -j ACCEPT; iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
put this at the top of all PostUps

#

its the default and required for it to work, dont remove it

tall pagoda
slate sonnet
tame carbon
#

I am about to bash my head against my desk. How much I hate this...

IF EXISTS(SELECT 1
          FROM sys.views
          WHERE name = 'VIEW_5'
            AND type = 'v')
    DROP VIEW VIEW_5;
GO;
CREATE VIEW VIEW_5 AS
SELECT ORIG_CORP_NAME, ORIG_COUNTRY_NAME, DEST_CORP_NAME, DEST_COUNTRY_NAME
FROM VIEW_4
         JOIN ACCOUNT A ON VIEW_4.COUNTRY_NAME = A.BANK_COUNTRY_NAME AND VIEW_4.CORP_NAME = A.BANK_CORP_NAME
         JOIN TRANSFER T ON (A.COUNTRY_NAME = T.ORIG_COUNTRY_NAME AND A.CORP_NAME = T.ORIG_CORP_NAME) OR
                            (A.COUNTRY_NAME = T.DEST_COUNTRY_NAME AND A.CORP_NAME = T.DEST_CORP_NAME)
#

xD

tall pagoda
#

I have actually no internet through that strange outlet

slate sonnet
#

@plain siren so now it's like this

plain siren
#

PostDown should only be PostDown = iptables -D FORWARD -i %i -j ACCEPT; iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE

slate sonnet
#

Forgot to change the -A

#

whoops

plain siren
#

change all wg0's to %i too

slate sonnet
#

Okay

#

What does that do?

#

Just curious

#

Still can't connect using my vps

#

Ping time from my vps to my server is over 200ms

plain siren
#

Doing some looking up

slate sonnet
#

At this point I think it's better to revert all the changes and just set it to whitelisted mode

#

So that I can ban by name

plain siren
#

Well the real issue here is you need to use netsh to tellwindows to route your vps public ip by default gateway not the wireguard
then you gotta do the loopback

#

but im not seeing a way tbh

#

thats the 50% drop in packets and lag

slate sonnet
#

Okay, how would I check if I have ipv6 support?

#

Since I remember someone said minecraft java supports ipv6

slate sonnet
#

Oh

peak cloak
#

it should

#

but it doesn't

slate sonnet
#

Welp, never mind

#

But still, just do ipconfig and see if I get an ipv6 address?

#

On windows

peak cloak
slate sonnet
#

Oh, I DO have ipv6

#

Idk when that got added

#

I remember I didn't have that

peak cloak
slate sonnet
#

Yea

peak cloak
#

that's not a public v6 address

#

that's just link-local

slate sonnet
#

Oh

#

Welp

peak cloak
#

every pc has that unless it's disabled

peak cloak
slate sonnet
#

Now I know

#

Well something got screwed up

#

I can't connect to my minecraft server

#

Even after reverting the rules back to what they were (i think)

#

I can ping my server from my local network that I created with wireguard

#

And vice-versa

#

Omg

#

I'm dumb

plain siren
#

lol wot

slate sonnet
#

In the "allowed ips" section on the client I set it to 10.0.0.2/24

#

That was at /32 I think

#

Oh wait

#

nvm

#

Idk

plain siren
#

restart vps

slate sonnet
#

I did

#

Rules currently

slow pivot
#

@tame carbon tcpdump will absolutely work for incoming and outgoing packets

slate sonnet
#

I have a question, on my server config in the allowed ips I have 10.0.0.2/32

#

But on my client I have 10.0.0.2/24 in the interface section

#

Is that supposed to be like that?

slow pivot
#

Technically 10.0.0.2/24 is giving both an IP address and a network

untold elbow
#

you can set them both to /32

slate sonnet
#

Well either way, doesn't fix the thing that I broke

#

And I don't know what I broke, which is fun

untold elbow
#

the /## part is the subnet mask (in CIDR notation), it indicates the size of the network you're talking about

#

a /32 means just a single address

#

a /24 means 255 addresses, so 10.0.0.X

#

but you're only ever connecting on 10.0.0.2, a single address, so the /32 is correct

#

but either should work

#

what broke?

slate sonnet
#

I don't know

untold elbow
#

whats it doing?

slate sonnet
#

Basically I tried to find a way to see which ips are connecting to my vps

#

Because I can't ipban someone on my minecraft server since it gives me my vps ip

#

In the process of editing the vps wireguard config I broke something

#

I can't connect to my minecraft server through the vps

untold elbow
#

can you connect to the wireguard tunnel and pass traffic through it? like browse the web?

slate sonnet
#

I think so

#

I mean I can ping my vps from my pc

#

And vice-versa

untold elbow
#

via 10.0.0.1 and .2?

slate sonnet
#

Yup

untold elbow
slate sonnet
#

No

#

It gives my ip

#

But I think it's supposed though

tame carbon
#

@untold elbow what's your hourly rate?

untold elbow
#

@tame carbon lol it depends

tame carbon
#

;)

#

my metal 52ac arrived

#

I'm always suprised when it looks smaller than on the website

untold elbow
#

@slate sonnet if you do sudo wg on the vps while connected to the tunnel, whats it say

tame carbon
#

🎵

untold elbow
#

if it's connected, you'll see something like this:

[sudo] password for jfr: 
interface: wg0
  public key: ZwVKWP0zpqpGNQRNm4Yj7VXaiL320YbU3yLUVRC9JxY=
  private key: (hidden)
  listening port: 58610

peer: BTtKlQ7OEBS5sOjJ1aNjvo018N0Fe4RAA0G6YXzFJl4=
  endpoint: XXX:16417
  allowed ips: 172.24.158.5/32
  latest handshake: 1 minute, 15 seconds ago
  transfer: 13.91 MiB received, 22.16 MiB sent```
#

the peer will be listed with handshake and transfer stats

slate sonnet
#
root@ruvds-2xerj:~# wg
interface: wg0
  public key: (vps public key)
  private key: (hidden)
  listening port: 55107

peer: (my client key)
  endpoint: (my client ip):54147
  allowed ips: 10.0.0.2/32
  latest handshake: 1 minute, 54 seconds ago
  transfer: 86.04 KiB received, 1.30 KiB sent
untold elbow
#

ok cool thats good

#

do you have the minecraft server started on your pc?

#

i dont see anything on 25565

slate sonnet
#

Just started it

untold elbow
#

hmm i dont see it

#

i think iptables rules must be broke again

#

so ask @tame carbon what his hourly rate is 😄

tame carbon
#

Idk

#

@untold elbow he modified his iptable rules with something that @plain siren recommended

#

my hands are tied

slate sonnet
#

Then I returned it to what it was before

tame carbon
#

reboot your vps

slate sonnet
#

Tried that

tame carbon
#

We had it working ;-;

slate sonnet
#

Tried resetting the tunnel

tame carbon
#

You just sent a bull into the china shop

untold elbow
#

it's weird that it's not passing http traffic

slate sonnet
#

So new public key

#

etc

untold elbow
#

@tame carbon you didnt make the iptable rules so it would exclude http/https ports, right?

slate sonnet
#
PostUp = iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 25565 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.0.2:25565;
PostUp = iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 10.0.0.2 --dport 25565 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
PostUp = iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -p tcp -d 10.0.0.2 --dport 25565
PostDown = iptables -t nat -D PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 25565 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.0.2:25565;
PostDown = iptables -D FORWARD -p tcp -d 10.0.0.2 --dport 25565 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
PostDown = iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -p tcp -d 10.0.0.2 --dport 25565

#

These are the rules that I have right now

untold elbow
#

oh no it's only forwading 25565

tame carbon
#

@untold elbow pretty sure those rules applied to 25565 only

untold elbow
#

any chance the port on the MC server has changed?

tame carbon
#

without purposefully changing it ? no

slate sonnet
#

[14:04:12] [Server thread/INFO] [minecraft/DedicatedServer]: Starting Minecraft server on *:25565

#

Had it like that all this time

#

I swear, once I fix this, I will never touch anything again xd

untold elbow
#

dont worry it will break on its own 😄

slate sonnet
#

Can't wait then

#

lmao

untold elbow
#

yeah im at a loss, those rules look correct

untold elbow
# slate sonnet

if you put it back to the rules here, does that change anything?

slate sonnet
#

No

#

btw, what command do you use to see if my server is up or not?

untold elbow
#

from an outside system telnet <vps ip> <minecraft port>

#

if the port is open, telnet will connect to it

#

it won't be able to do anything, but it'll connect

#

it's a basic way to check if there's a service on a given port

#

for example:

Trying 45.79.196.241...
Connected to li1295-241.members.linode.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
^CConnection closed by foreign host.
[jfr@london ~]$ ^C
^C
[jfr@london ~]$ telnet 45.79.196.241 81
Trying 45.79.196.241...
^C```
#

45.79.196.241 is my vps, it sees a service on port 80 but not port 81

tame carbon
#

@untold elbow using lish I see.

#
 crystal@watomat  ~  ssh ldn.services.local.knockturnmc.com          
Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.1.11-x86_64-linode127 x86_64)

:D

untold elbow
#

not directly, just hosting vps on linode

tame carbon
#

Linode bee fast

untold elbow
#

hoboy

#

yeah linode is dope

slate sonnet
#

I guess I could always try and resetting the vps and start fresh?

untold elbow
#

i dunno.... that'd be a lot of work

#

and wireguard is working, it's just not passing the MC traffic

tame carbon
#

@untold elbow I used to torrent in the cloud. then downloading those packages via ssh over my crappy 4mbit line

untold elbow
#

oh fun

tame carbon
#

breaking up the archive into smaller files

#

and then download those over night

#

getting a 50GB file through a 4mbit gateway is a chore

untold elbow
#

for real

tame carbon
#

@untold elbow lol when I got Divinity Original Sin 2 from GOG.com, I had my friend download it for me

#

it was a 65GB package. He just send me a letter with an sd card inside

#

postal service has higher bandwidth than DSL

#

just very bad ping

untold elbow
#

lol

tame carbon
#

and not duplex xD

untold elbow
#

@slate sonnet i'd try reverting back to a more basic set of wg iptable rules and going from there

tame carbon
untold elbow
#

@tame carbon guessing you're on a faster link now

tame carbon
#

@untold elbow yeah... though I got really lucky

#

they announced fiber optics. we had it installed, and moved to a new house 2 months later.

slate sonnet
#

Because idk what I should remove, what I should keep

#

Etc

tame carbon
#

@untold elbow but the new house we moved to. was behind on schedule, allowing us to sign up for a 2nd fiber link

#

that was installed in December 2019

#

I got into networking with mikrotik earlier that year

#

in the old place we didnt even have ethernet sockets

untold elbow
tame carbon
#

there was a cable running up the stairs to my bedroom xD

#

@untold elbow those rules were trash.

untold elbow
#

next house i buy needs to have cat6a in all the walls

tame carbon
#

I ditched them

#

and wrote my own

slate sonnet
#

Router is in my room

#

And the main ethernet cable runs to the router

tame carbon
#

RouterOS v7 has wireguard built in

#

so much better :)

#

@slate sonnet I'm at a loss. those rules we had were functional before..

untold elbow
#

did you install any other packages?

tame carbon
#

you running ufw ?

#

like... idk what is wrong at this point

slate sonnet
untold elbow
#

did he maybe have you add iptables rules outside of the wireguard config?

#

dont know how to check the rules

slate sonnet
#

I don't know how to add iptables

#

I really don't know too much about linux

tame carbon
#

man iptables

#

iptables -L

#

should list all the rules

#

man is an underrated command ;)

slate sonnet
tame carbon
#

tunnel is disabled?

slate sonnet
#

No

tame carbon
#

then why is there only a single rule in there?

untold elbow
#

you'remissing a bunch of rules

#

something got whacky

slate sonnet
tame carbon
#

unboxing ftw

slate sonnet
#

Could I not just add the iptables manually?

#

Since they are missing

tame carbon
#

my desk rn

untold elbow
#

no because you want them to come on when the tunnel is on and go off when it goes off

slate sonnet
tame carbon
#

Dowsing rod in hand.
Ready to bust some ghosts.

slate sonnet
#

At least now we know why I'm having issues

tame carbon
#

@slate sonnet only half my desk is in that image :P

slate sonnet
#

iptables arent being added

tame carbon
#

the other half is a lot more messy

slate sonnet
untold elbow
#

@slate sonnet i'm not sure tbh, i don't know what your iptables stuff should look like with those rules you have set

tame carbon
#

oof.

slate sonnet
#

That's the only area where there arent stuff xd

untold elbow
tame carbon
#

@untold elbow well its legal here so :p

untold elbow
#

still emailing

tame carbon
#

good luck

#

US law does not apply here

untold elbow
#

us law applies everywhere

tame carbon
#

you can grab a baton for self-sodomizing by the door when you leave.

#

if that reference even hits home..

untold elbow
#

nope

tame carbon
#

Anakata of the pirate bay used to tell Lawyers that who sent pesky emails with DMCA's

#

telling to sodomize themselves and whatnot xD

#

"US law does not apply here, go sodomize yourself"

untold elbow
#

lol

tame carbon
#

They used to post all the emails on their website

untold elbow
#

yeah ive read a few

tame carbon
#

but they took them down

#

@untold elbow my favorite is still the quarrel they had with linotype

#

where their reply or 'counter claim' was an invoice for the hosting on tpb.org/legal

#

using 50 different fonts in a single document

#

all owned by linotype

untold elbow
#

lol

#

are they they people that own helvetica>?

tame carbon
#

Arial.

#

helvetica is an open font

untold elbow
#

i dont think helvetica is open

tame carbon
#

Its on ubuntu by default?

#

arial isnt

untold elbow
#

opensans?

jaunty talon
#

I have finally identified the last bug we have with our QFX5120-48T :D 1G nics on windows wont link up without disable / enable after reboot of the switch \o/

untold elbow
#

helvetica is expensive af

tame carbon
#

@untold elbow you were right. They own both.

#

well fuck me

untold elbow
tame carbon
#

I'll just go back to using papyrus

untold elbow
#

$39 for every variant

#

it's like the sims 3 of fonts

tame carbon
#

Argh.

#

what is this.

#

et tu linotype?

untold elbow
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ooof

tame carbon
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@untold elbow AH FOUND IT

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🤣

untold elbow
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lmao yeah ive seen that

waxen saddle
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Honestly, whoever sent that notice to TPB needed that kind of slap in the face.

tame carbon
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@waxen saddle tell that to Linotype

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and all the other people that took them to court

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mostly the MPAA and Warner

waxen saddle
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I wish I could tell them. 🙂

hollow marlin
# jaunty talon I have finally identified the last bug we have with our QFX5120-48T :D 1G nics o...

I recently got pulled into a deployment where an SRX320 LTE mPIM was stuck in admin down/link up state. Required similar steps of set disable > reboot > set enable (hidden cmd) > reboot > delete enable > power down > re-seat SIM > power up. Drove me insane as admin down/link up should not be possible but it was. Opened a ticket with JTAC to look into it and it was the 3rd time they have seen an down/up state and the dumps contained nothing to guide them on a cause or bug.

little bridge
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Hello,
Is it possible to stream my games to laptop persay if they are not on the same network, and to control my pc from that laptop that includes turning the PC on off, i heard you can do that with WoL but thats only for LAN.
I would appreciate any feedback, Thank you

tame carbon
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@little bridge wake on lan only works on the local broadcast domain

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so it must be another device on the local network that sends those packets

peak cloak
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yep

tame carbon
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remotely shutting a system down is trivial

peak cloak
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I have a little VM that does it

tame carbon
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you just log into the machine remotely and tell it to shut down

peak cloak
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and it's on the same vlan as my pc

tame carbon
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@peak cloak with mikrotik you can either do it via a script, or API call

tender cliff
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Can you have two computers connected as a network wirelessly?

tame carbon
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yes

tame carbon
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either one creates a hotspot

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and the other connects

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or you use ad-hoc networking

slate sonnet
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I've just watched some youtube videos regarding iptables and how they are setup, how the work, what commands do what.
Technically everything is correct when I do iptables -L, which is weird since I still don't get traffic routed

thick minnow
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hello could i get some public ip if i switch to ipv6 ?

peak cloak
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most give a /56 block I think

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which is like 64,565 /64's I think

thick minnow
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my isp supprts ipv6 so i contacted them and they have to unlock it for me ?

peak cloak
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no clue

peak cloak
thick minnow
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it does have a lot settings about it

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so it prob. does

peak cloak
thick minnow
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this is worrying

tame carbon
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what router is this?

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@thick minnow

thick minnow
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mine ?

tame carbon
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yes

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@thick minnow ideally you'd have both v4 and v6

thick minnow
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its from

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Tp-link

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it cointains stuff around ipv6 i think my provider ist just giving me acces to it at 1st place iam under CGNAT

tame carbon
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yeah probably just a bad router

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lol stupid tplink even dares to upsell people

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rediculous

tender hazel
dense wolf
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can some one tell me why my open media vault system tells" The repository jessie-backports Release does no longer have a Release file ." when I try to update

tender hazel
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oh TP-Link IPv6 doesn't work

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it is broken

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even on their latest devices

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if you have a tp-link router you won't be able to get IPv6 working

slate sonnet
tender hazel
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yes

slate sonnet
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Huh, okay

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Well I’ll try it a little bit later

tender hazel
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removing the MASQUERADE from the end just deletes the action

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you may have to do some additional stuff on your home system to get the return traffic handled correctly

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because otherwise the return traffic may be sent out your main ISP instead of back through the VPS, which is not what you want

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the MASQUERADE was forcing the return traffic back through the VPS by hiding the true IP address of the user connecting

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so you'll need a different means of doing that without the MASQUERADE rule

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some kind of policy routing on your home system or router running wireguard

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it'll have to track the connection from the VPS and send responses out the same interface

tender hazel
tame carbon
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asus is total crap

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very buggy

slate sonnet
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What router brands are good? By good I mean reliable with a good-ish feature set

tame carbon
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mikrotik

slate sonnet
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From what I’ve seen in this channel mikrotik can do a lot of stuff

tame carbon
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they are just very versatile

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and their routers are very good

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they can do managed wireless too

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but if you need high density, other brands might be superior

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most expensive device mikrotik sells is only $3000, they cater to lower and middle market

slate sonnet
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I definitely don’t need high density

tame carbon
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but its a very obscure brand

tender hazel
# thick minnow why ?

Because IPv6 is broken with all TP-Link. I work for an ISP and we have about 450 customers with TP-Link routers and provide IPv6 to all of them. None of them have it working due to TP-Link IPv6 issues

tame carbon
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they dont do a lot of marketing

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they are mostly used by service providers to do installations for private homes

slate sonnet
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Well the most taxing thing that I might do is hosting a minecraft server and having maybe 100 connections

slate sonnet
thick minnow
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soooo what are good types ?

tame carbon
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depends on what you need :P

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they have bunch of models with different configurations

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but the software on all of them is the same

thick minnow
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i dont need speed and i dont need overpowered wifi just a reaallly basic one

tame carbon
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their cheapest router is $20 xD

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like I said, depends on what you need

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what kind of network speed do you have? do you want wifi on the device itself?

thick minnow
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i have wifi extender and i have 1*router + 1* modem from TP-link all i need is to get one without wifi and second with wifi at least 10meters with 2wall penetrating on 2.4GIGAhertz at least

muted pawn
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you can get 40gb for less than 200

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just make sure its mellanox and everything can be wired :p

thick minnow
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my int connection is 20Mbit down 2Mbit up

tame carbon
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ew wifi extenders

thick minnow
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i have i tcuz of ethernet cable

tame carbon
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you dont need much though in perf with that