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peak cloak
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yeah, but your wifi spectrum isn't congested

tame carbon
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hAP ac2 is like $60, add additional APs cost like 60 bucks as well

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software configuration is quite nice

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manage it as a single network

autumn bay
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I want a all in one so i can just plug it in and done

tame carbon
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then get unify

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its more expensive

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but easier to setup

autumn bay
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The router i have is what the isp gave me and it sucks

tame carbon
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but I've helped multiple people set up mikrotik devices in this channel before :P

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so that is also an option

autumn bay
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No idea

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I just need a new router and idk if i made a right decision on buying the asus

tame carbon
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these things can do like 2gbit routing over ethernet

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it does have wifi onboard, but you can add more APs always

autumn bay
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I have a 300mb connection

tame carbon
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@autumn bay yeah but these things are relatively cheap by comparison

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its only wifi 5.. but we can set up multiple channels

autumn bay
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hmm idk

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I want wifi 6 i have all my laptops and phones supporting wifi 6

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So what companies make good home use routers ?

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Linksys was good i heard or netgear

tame carbon
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what do you even need 300mbit to your phone for xD

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I have 250/250M here

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and I barely use wireless :P

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I got everything wired up here, more reliable

autumn bay
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I got everything on wifi

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I just want it to be more reliable than my current router

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It puts everything on 5 ghz and then i can watch youtube or do anything on my pc because it disconnects every 40 min

tame carbon
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I've got like 100 days uptime on my AP, never have any issues, idk

autumn bay
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Not the drivers or the wifi card checked that the router doesnt have a 24 channel i does it automatically and there is no way of changing it

tame carbon
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like, I used to have all tplink here, but those kept having signal issues

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or refusing to connect

autumn bay
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My house it pretty small

tame carbon
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there are certain limits to bandwidth

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and also depends on how noisy the environment is

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if you have other APs in the area

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5GHz is already more stable, but doesnt propegate well through walls

autumn bay
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Yeah but the point is my router is literally trash no options no channel scanning nothing i just need a recommendation

ornate jungle
# autumn bay Not the drivers or the wifi card checked that the router doesnt have a 24 channe...

the AX56U most definitely does have a 2.4GHz channel - you probably need to fiddle with the settings in the ASUS MerlinWRT interface though.
https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Networking-IoT-Servers/WiFi-6/All-series/RT-AX56U/techspec/

autumn bay
ornate jungle
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You probably need to turn off the Smart Connect (aka Bandsteering) feature. This will let you, the user, decide whether you want your devices connecting to the 2.4GHz or the 5GHz network. As @tame carbon pointed out, 2.4GHz goes through walls better albeit at slower speeds, while 5GHz works best with line of sight and at faster speeds. Not all devices play nicely with bandsteering, which can result in drops as they hop between the bands.

autumn bay
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There is no option to do that

tame carbon
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the solution:

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more antennas

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xD

ornate jungle
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no no, hold up, I got chu: more extenders. preferably the $20 variety. ๐Ÿ˜„ (jk jk don't do this.)

tame carbon
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phew

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I was about to raise an insult

ornate jungle
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I troubleshoot consumer grade + some low-level ISP gear for a living (among many other IT related consulting tasks)... extenders/boosters are almost always bad ideas.

autumn bay
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So what router do you recommend i need a all in one type of thing

tame carbon
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I'm biased af

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I only run mikrotik here

ornate jungle
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I don't understand why your router doesn't have the option ASUS lists on their website @autumn bay -- have you tried logging into the admin interface to check? (can you throw a screenshot here, with sensitive information blacked out of course.)

autumn bay
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One of my family members said to get a ubiqiti AP but i just want a nee router

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My current one not the asus

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I got a free isp one it doesnt have any features

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Everything is set to auto no way of changing it

ornate jungle
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Oh, OK I was confused there - yeah no, most ISP gear is just bad. Or rather, the hardware could be good, but the firmware/software running on the hardware is crippled.

tame carbon
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@autumn bay how many rooms do you need to cover? and do you have the option of running a cable to an access point?

autumn bay
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3

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No cables

tame carbon
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that does limit your options

autumn bay
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Yep

tame carbon
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and probably wont get you full speed access all over the house

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no matter what you buy

autumn bay
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I just need reliability

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Something that doesnt need to be replaced has huge ping spikes no matter who is using or how many people

thick minnow
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How long does dns take to process?

odd pier
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If a wifi AP can't cover three rooms in a flat I would think twice buying it.

tame carbon
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@thick minnow up to 24 hours usually

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new records generally get passed quickly

rocky badge
tame carbon
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@rocky badge not every ISP honors those

rocky badge
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Time to live (TTL) or hop limit is a mechanism which limits the lifespan or lifetime of data in a computer or network. TTL may be implemented as a counter or timestamp attached to or embedded in the data. Once the prescribed event count or timespan has elapsed, data is discarded or revalidated. In computer networking, TTL prevents a data packet ...

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And that matters why?

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Google, Cloudflare, Quad9, Cisco honors TTL

tame carbon
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not everyone uses those

thick minnow
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I setup a hostname for my minecraft server

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Donโ€™t like giving people my IP address ๐Ÿ˜ณ

ornate jungle
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Uh.... unless you configured a reverse proxy, people will still be able to get your IP from an A-record hostname.

rocky badge
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If you setup an A record....

odd pier
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well a DNS entry maps to an IP if you setup an A-Record

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so a nslookup would show

rocky badge
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or a SRV....because that points to an A record lmao

odd pier
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^

peak cloak
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Yep

tame carbon
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anyone with a shovel can d0x you

peak cloak
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You can just dig a hostname

thorny vector
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All DNS leads back to AWS

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lol

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Just a comment on how prolific AWS (and cloudflare and akamai are)

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I occasionally do website bug bounties, and 80% of the time I end up having to fight off a CDN's protection before I can actually do any testing on the site

rocky badge
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Then its doing its job?

odd pier
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I mean the protection is there fore a reason.

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to keep bots out and humans in. Just because it takes 5 seconds to check you doesn't make it useless

rocky badge
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Akamai does ddos/attack mitigation

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So does Cloudflare

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and then with AWS you can use CloudFront and AWS Shield

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If you wanted to protect your service against attacks, you'd be tunneling your traffic to them and letting them proxy it for you

thorny vector
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Yeah, but when the scope of the testing is the site itself, I'm not here to test/verify the CDN, I'm trying to test the site

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Making put waits in all my tests wastes time for me and the client

rocky badge
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in the case of AWS, it would stay in your AWS VPC and ingress/egress at the Cloudfront/Internet gateway

odd pier
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well then tell the client?

autumn bay
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So what router should i get thats a lot better than the standard one and has mu-mimo

odd pier
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I mean the client is the one that set this up in the first place

thorny vector
odd pier
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well then you just need to accept the fact that this is the situation

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that's how things sometimes work in the real world. Customers are slow and don't change simple things

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and if that slows down your testing, well raise the bill

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simple as that

thorny vector
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Might be able to do that when I work in the private sector. For now, my salary is ever-unchanging.

lean pebble
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Fighting with CDN can be pain.

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Especially when you pentesting a website

autumn bay
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do i just get a ubiquiti AP ?

little schooner
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An engenius and mikrotik ap would do just as well

rocky badge
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They want WiFi 6

autumn bay
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yolo i bought a ubiquiti AP and a poe switch

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hopefully that fixes it not wifi 6 but meh

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when i move in to my own house i will just do AP everywhere and Ethernet runs all over

autumn bay
waxen scroll
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@rocky badge I use them

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DDOS and dns cache

rocky badge
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cf?

waxen scroll
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Akamai

rocky badge
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Ah

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yeah

waxen scroll
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Also you don't tunnel traffic to them. They send it to you and announce bgp for you

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When traffic exits you to the requestor it goes out your internet untunneled

rocky badge
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Yeah for Akamai

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Cloudflare you tunnel to them

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well, that's an option

plucky cargo
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Anyone tried to build ipv6 to ipv4 tunnel by themselves on aws?

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Tunnelbroker resulted in high latency and making my youtube region different

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Problem with aws was that public ipv4 was not detected on eth0 device and I wasnโ€™t able to use 6to4 program on github

thorny vector
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@plucky cargo what GitHub project?

plucky cargo
peak cloak
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Or is there no server close to you?

plucky cargo
peak cloak
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Ah

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Makes sense

plucky cargo
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resulting in 232ms ping

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just curious if changing to Vultr would make the whole process more easier

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I used more than three hours just configuring vps

tame carbon
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@peak cloak can you change the country information on an HE tunnel?

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turns out, if I try to go to netflix

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it puts me on US netflix

lean pebble
peak cloak
lean pebble
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I think all ipv6 addresses that comes from tunnelbrokers are registered in the united states that's why you get netflix US.
Because netflix geo location block working by IP address and checks where the IP is registered.

little schooner
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i checked on my smartphone and saw that my carrier moved me to an ipv6 address for the data connection

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progress

thick minnow
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meanwhile in my country.........

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still IPV4

velvet shoal
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new wifi go brr

peak cloak
clear igloo
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If only ATT could implement prefix delegation properly I'd be happy ๐Ÿ˜›
(on their home internet)

little schooner
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i have sprint

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they are slower at any upgrade

lone sun
# thick minnow *still IPV4*

๐Ÿ˜ƒ No worries, IPV6 is overrated anyway and is a pain in the ass trying to decipher when troubleshooting. Some people believe IPV6 was unnecessary anyway considering they have already been using NAT to make new addresses with IPV4.

thick minnow
lone sun
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ Sure thing...but it makes me wonder if IPV6 really was a waste of time. The main reason why they created it was because they ran out of addresses with IPV4. But they ran out over 20 years ago and have been NATing ever since. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

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I shutter to think they are trying to replace IPV4 entirely with that pile of shit. My head spins just looking at all those different addresses in IPV6.

clear igloo
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Because CGNAT is so fun ๐Ÿ™„

clear igloo
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IPv6 is a different way of thinking but it's not a "pile" as you describe

peak cloak
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Yeah, you can't directly translate things from v4 to v6

waxen scroll
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oof.

clear igloo
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Yah, soft skills are very important

waxen scroll
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i'd argue we're getting to a point where the no soft skill sysadmin wont be employed

thorny vector
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Especially in 1-2 sysadmin shops.

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Thereโ€™s no more gremlins in the back

rocky badge
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I'm using HE's tunnel broker rn

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Doesn't really affect latency most of the time tho

waxen scroll
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that feel when ur isp uses new fiber tech but comcast has had v6 for years

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dont worry @rocky badge ive successfully failed at every company I work for to get an ipv6 project off the ground

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an ISP has no excuse but companies who are working just fine without it do

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@hollow marlin task failed successfully.

peak cloak
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Although I haven't deployed it until I get a better router or they fix it

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Because if I have HWNAT enabled ipv6 speeds are unusable

lone sun
# rocky badge Doesn't really affect latency most of the time tho

This is why I hope it never totally migrates over to IPV6, for the sake of troubleshooting alone. I'm perfectly fine with it staying exactly as it is with 6in4 tunneling for instance. ๐Ÿคž....If the latency is hardly even margin of error, I could care less for it. ๐Ÿ˜†

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oak night
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Can i ask a question about Virtual machines here?

lone sun
oak night
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Ok then I'm getting a server for myself and i would like to run Windows, linux and Xpenology on that server. How should i virtualize them? Type 1 or type 2? If type 1 what should i pick(Esxi, Proxmox Windows Hyper-V)? (This is my first time using a server with Vms)

clear igloo
lone sun
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I have no idea

oak night
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Ok thanks

thorny vector
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ESXi is the industry standard

lone sun
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I just know Type 1 is basically what's used in enterprise environments, and even on game consoles I recall. So I'd be willing to bet on that.

thorny vector
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Games consoles don't use any kind of virtualization really.

lone sun
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oh

oak night
thorny vector
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Downside to ESXi is that the free license has limitations. Most homelabs don't really run into them, but its something to consider

lone sun
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Type 2 is for layman chumps like me. ๐Ÿ˜”

oak night
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Well i would use the Free version

thorny vector
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The dev license (which I use) is 200 USD/year

oak night
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And the cheapest?

thorny vector
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Dev license is the cheapest. Enterprise/commercial licenses start scaling out. If you're looking for free, look at the free tier limitations, and if they're too restrictive, then try out proxmox

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oak night
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Ok i'll use the cheapest (FREE)

lone sun
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I'd have to be doing some deadly serious I.T work to be spending 200 bucks a year on that, hell to the naw. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

thorny vector
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200$ a year is great, what do you mean? Cheaper than most streaming services.

lone sun
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Maybe, but I already have enough bills to pay though. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

lone sun
rocky badge
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home/UI runs in a VM, games run in a VM

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Its running the core Windows kernel but with a lot of stuff gutted out

lone sun
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๐Ÿค” Right....and they STILL managed to make the base O.S system files over 100 gbs. ๐Ÿ™ƒ ..Although I heard all that space is actually reserved to be used as extra memory for game developers.

oak night
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But what about Proxmox?

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I dont know what to choose between Esxi and Proxmox

thorny vector
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Try esxi, its easy to learn, and has a lot of nice features to learn once you get more familiar with it

oak night
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Ok i'll give it a try

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For a server like that are 16 gigs of Ram enough?

thorny vector
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Yeah. Don't expect to do anything big, but that's fine for a dev box

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I used to have a travel server with that much memory

oak night
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Ok

rocky badge
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@clear igloo Why UPS slow :( I want my switch

clear igloo
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They aren't done drop kicking your box around yet

rocky badge
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its been sitting in their distribution center since Saturday

oak night
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don't hate me but i will install windows just For IIS and its easy configs

lone sun
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They aren't going to tell you that of course. ๐Ÿ˜ถ

thorny vector
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I love windows. It's a great solution for a lot of stuff.

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Every OS is a tool, and every tool has a place.

rocky badge
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Well, it got their distribution center here at 7AM Saturday, which is past when they usually go out for delivery

hollow marlin
rocky badge
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And they don't really deliver on Sunday

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For normal UPS ground

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So I expected Monday at the latest, they originally said Tuesday

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@clear igloo Fucking tax & shipping though oh my god

lone sun
rocky badge
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The product is $29.00

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I paid $45.81 HaHaa

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lone sun
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Sometimes, the stowers will misplace the product in the wrong bin, and the order picker marks it "missing" when it isn't. Stuff like that happens a lot. ๐Ÿ™ƒ ...human error.

rocky badge
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Finally gonna have a PoE powered switch though

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small too...I didn't need the 8 port switch in my room lol

lone sun
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The only time I'd ever buy me a switch is if I plan on getting a L2 translating WIFI bridge. But my wifi works pretty well, so no need to waste my money, with me using strictly ethernet.

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In other words, its wifi, but not really wifi, since it still ends up using 802.3 ethernet frames. WIFI is ass liquid for gaming unless its enterprise quality.

peak cloak
rocky badge
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ya

peak cloak
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Im having issues setting it up correctly but it's mostly my fault

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I was so close but I forgot to change management vlan to all

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@lone sun I honestly don't know if you are trolling or not sometimes

waxen saddle
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Iโ€™m not even sure he knows what heโ€™s talking about

peak cloak
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fr

tribal ferry
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Do I need to console into MicroTik switches for initial setup or can they be setup over the network?

tribal ferry
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just wanted to know if i need a console cable before i purchase

peak cloak
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you can use their winbox tool so you can do it over L2

tribal ferry
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ah alright

humble cloak
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On a subscription for 250/25 lol

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But indeed, at school we have WiFi 6 and I have about 16ms delay, with gigabit down/up

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(I also have a WiFi 6 laptop since last month)

thick minnow
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What is the best way to get an internet connection from our house, trough our yard to a warehouse behind our yard?

tame carbon
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@thick minnow point to point

thick minnow
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You can just put those on your roof right?

lone sun
ruby bramble
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Does anybody know how to reset a unifi ap?

humble cloak
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It was Rainbow Six Siege that I mainly play lol

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Players were visually stuttering even with 121fps

thick minnow
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theres a button

ruby bramble
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How many seconds to hold on the ap pro

thick minnow
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until it starts blinking or something

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just press it with an simcard remove tool

thick minnow
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led light shuts off after that

ruby bramble
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It still wonโ€™t adopt

thick minnow
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whats the problem

ruby bramble
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It wonโ€™t adopt?

stiff panther
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Any idea why my haproxy is extremely slow?

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takes like 15-20 seconds to resopond

tame carbon
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@ruby bramble you know there's a manual for these things right? :D

tame carbon
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@lone sun wifi is just garbage in general

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nothing beats wired ethernet

humble cloak
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wifi 6 is a big step forward tho

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watch me play rainbow six siege in class with 12ms ping over wifi

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over 802.11ax

tame carbon
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@humble cloak oddly enough, I'm using a hAP ac2 here, which uses wifi 5

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and I get 1ms latency added to my 7ms on wired. Through a brick wall.

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but its a bit jittery (3ms) compared to lan, which is 0.5ms

plucky cargo
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wifi sucks after changing my firmware to OpenWRT :p

peak cloak
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can't take advantage of optimized software for your specific hardware

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kinda don't like openwrt for this reason

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just get a good router

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and then a good AP

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no wifi router

tame carbon
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or get gear that does remote wifi management

plucky cargo
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i mean descent router

peak cloak
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what is it?

plucky cargo
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I just need it for ipv6 tunneling

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EFM ipTIME A8004T-XR this one

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its Korean brand

tame carbon
peak cloak
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this?

tame carbon
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that looks like a fridge

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with handles at the top

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I'd hit my head if that was ceiling mounted xD

plucky cargo
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its "decent"

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its somewhere in the middle

peak cloak
plucky cargo
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its $100 router wdym

peak cloak
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you said it couldn't do a tunnel

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without openwrt which degraded perf

stone drift
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im not an expert on networking and like mesh wifi thingies

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but is a tp-link deco AX3000 good?

tame carbon
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experts probably wouldnt use mesh

stone drift
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eh

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these seem to do very good

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they do become a bit warm

tame carbon
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129 bucks still expensive

stone drift
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ye

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but i got them for free

tame carbon
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and tplink... lol, does only the most basic of things

stone drift
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so whatev

peak cloak
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wireless mesh kinda sucks

stone drift
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they do better than the router i have so who cares

tame carbon
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I also find the 3gbit speed suspicious

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3gbit what. with what config?

clear igloo
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3gbit wireless in the lab under perfect conditions with all combined radios

tame carbon
plucky cargo
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that was my best choice at that time :p

tame carbon
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@clear igloo yeah but what about routing lol. The routers they sell with 2.5G interfaces, kinda cap out around 1.7G

clear igloo
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shhhhh

hollow marlin
tame carbon
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@hollow marlin or any consumer routing gear for that matter

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since its all equally awful, probably needs that PR pollish

hollow marlin
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Well they typically just show the aggregate for wifi, I have not seen many advertise routing performance because its mostly trash

tame carbon
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:^)

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@hollow marlin do you know what is up with the whole low latency wifi 6 stuff?

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because I get 1ms latency on my hAP ac2

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wireless (2 brick walls inbetween me and AP)

hollow marlin
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Wifi 6 is all about improving high density. Slap 40-50 clients on wifi 5 and you'll see the latency spike, wifi 6 improves on that with OFDMANMOP

tame carbon
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the other day people here wanted a wifi AP recommendation, and were adamant they needed wifi 6

peak cloak
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or in a congested area also with many routers/AP?

hollow marlin
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Less about improving total bandwidth, more on smaller, even per application speeds

tame carbon
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and I just wonder... below 10 clients, its just unnessesary though?

hollow marlin
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Little improvements at such low density

tame carbon
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right, so for SOHO, it still doesnt make sense then

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I guess it would be nice if you have a big conference room

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with many employee smartphones and laptops

vestal sundial
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For modern office yeah. Many work laptops don't support wifi 6

hollow marlin
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๐Ÿ˜†

tame carbon
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ding

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it took me that long to get it

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stupid acronyms

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people named a company after that

hollow marlin
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I still am waiting on ROS v7 to fix where wave 2 is supported on 256mb devices but apparently its not all. I have 2 256mb AC2s and want to give it a shot updating. That said I do not have any issues on wave 1

tame carbon
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@hollow marlin memory ?

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the one I have, only comes with 128M

vestal sundial
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2012 ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

tame carbon
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I knew rOS was based on a linux kernel, just didnt expect it to be that old

hollow marlin
tame carbon
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@hollow marlin collector's item

hollow marlin
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Yeah 1 is my main and the other is still boxed when the time comes. I have 4 total from my previous job so 2 in use now, 2 standby

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The 2 standby are global versions too, so pretty much unlocked spectrum vs the US models

coarse storm
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is going from 2mbps down to 150 gonna be like a life changing difference? ๐Ÿ˜‚

thick minnow
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how is 150 lower than 2 mbps

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and 2 is really slow

shrewd needle
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anyone ever set up a network folder with an hp printer for scans?

tame carbon
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@shrewd needle networked printers I'd do with CUPS, Scanning with SANE

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@shrewd needle though if you are on a windows system, you might be able to just add the printer as a multifunction device, and use the scanner directly

pseudo hawk
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im looking for a nice home office server rack, 33in. deep, anyone got any suggestions?

peak cloak
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honestly thinking of maybe getting a ER-4

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already familiar with the cli with it

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but want something Cavium based

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Not MediaTek based which is what is causing issues

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yes, GUI kinda sucks but I'm already used to the cli

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or an ER-3 lite

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but that has no SFP

tame carbon
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@peak cloak how much is that ER-4 even?

peak cloak
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200

tame carbon
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oof

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why not a tik? :D

peak cloak
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will probobly go er -3

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because I'm already familiar with the cli

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idk

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maybe a tik

tame carbon
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the branding on the website for the ER-4

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somehow reminds me of apple

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is it the font?

peak cloak
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yeah

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oh I saw front

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lol

tame carbon
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xD

peak cloak
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unifi kinda sucks, but their edgemax lineup isn't too bad

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tik is tempting with price though

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urghh

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I can get the Lite used for a pretty good price though

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er-4 for 145 w/ shipping

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and with rack mount

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tempting

tame carbon
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3.4 million packets/second?

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hold on

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5 million on the RB4011 KEKW

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that's at smallest packet size

stable warren
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I use the edgerouter lite 3 and it does 500/50 fine.

peak cloak
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yeah it should especially with hardware acceleration on

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I forgot how fast my er-x can route

tame carbon
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I managed to route between two subnets with 10G

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with fastpath disabled lol

stable warren
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and it doesn't matter what i throw at it, i haven't seen it go past 25% load

peak cloak
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mikrotik price is nice, edgerouter's familiarity is also nice

stable warren
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i got it for free

tame carbon
stable warren
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and everything beats a shit ISP modem

peak cloak
tame carbon
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when internet is maxed out, it uses 1-2%

peak cloak
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well it's a router

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for one

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also I plan on making a bunch of firewall rules

stable warren
#

well the modem was router+modem if that's what you aiming at?

peak cloak
#

firewall slows it down

stable warren
#

put it in bridge mode now

peak cloak
#

yeah

#

I never got a modem

tame carbon
#

if you can configure PPP on your router

stable warren
#

wasn't even able to set a custom dns after last patch my ISP did

peak cloak
#

fiber ftw

tame carbon
#

you get it as good as you can

stable warren
#

cable :(

tame carbon
#

My ISP literally just installed a singlemode fiber patch box in my attic

stable warren
#

next option is DSL and that only goes to 20/2mbit lol when lucky

tame carbon
#

the package in the mail contained a 3 meter patch lead and an SFP module

stable warren
#

nice

tame carbon
#

but I'm using my own media converter

stable warren
#

if only, i got fiber at the end of my street

tame carbon
#

to go onto RJ45

stable warren
#

but connecting costs me 7500 Euro/200-month.. for i believe 100/100

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so nope

tame carbon
#

I use the SFP+ port on my router for my LAN

stable warren
#

I use a Juniper EX4200 48p POE as switch :P

tame carbon
#

nice

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I had to disable 6to4 :(

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it was putting me on US netflix

#

and they don't have rick and morty for some reason

peak cloak
#

I thought your ISP was perfect

tame carbon
#

no they only provide v4 services at this time

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but they peer with HE

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so ping is the same

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i get 7ms to dns server on v6

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same as on v4

stable warren
#

i get no IPV6 in bridge mode

tame carbon
#

my WAN address is just a DHCP client on a vlan

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and IPTV is another vlan with multicast

peak cloak
stable warren
#

i can do nothing about it, all in the ISP's hands

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there are 0.0 options for me

peak cloak
#

in edgemax all ipv6 is in cli

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oh you asked the ISP?

stable warren
#

nah cba, happy it works

tame carbon
#

and this menu item appears

stable warren
#

My modem doesn't give out anything

fallen wind
#

is it just me or have ubiquiti turned into a bag of dicks?

#

Just updated the controller after it being broken for ages to add a new AP, and it helpfully tells me my 3? year old outdoor AP is now EOL and i can get stuffed

peak cloak
#

yeah I've heard that

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that's why unifi is eh

stable warren
#

I thought so already but confirmed it, my ISP doesn't have IPV6 when modem is changed to bridged mode...

peak cloak
#

edgemax is still alright

fallen wind
#

I mean, the AP's certainly work, this controller has been broken for a year

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and the two AP's have happily chugged along just fine

stable warren
#

What's wrong with unifi controller?

fallen wind
#

it was installed on a PFSense router

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and shat itself when PFSense upgraded

peak cloak
#

well, you really shoudln't do that

fallen wind
#

some issue with the package manager

peak cloak
#

pfsense is meant just for routing

#

not for also being your controller

fallen wind
#

i've pulled the backup and installed it on my laptop instead for now

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so i've managed to add the new AP and its all happy again

stable warren
#

i run it on a simple J1900

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on windows 10, which also serves as a file server

#

works just fine for me

fallen wind
#

My router was a chinese mini-PC with a N3160

peak cloak
#

I only have one unfi device, which is the usw flex mini because it's like the only managed poe powered switch that is affortable

fallen wind
#

but it broke very randomly at the weekend

peak cloak
#

and I just turn on the unfi controller on my pc whenever I need to change the config

stable warren
#

How much was that @peak cloak ? I paid 60 euro's for my Juniper EX4200 which is also managed :P

fallen wind
#

it outright refused to boot PFSense from the SSD, but would boot a USB stick just fine, i assumed the SSD had died

peak cloak
#

I needed it to be poe-powered

stable warren
#

and how many ports?

peak cloak
#

not for it to output poe

stable warren
#

mine is also

peak cloak
#

5

stable warren
#

oh ok

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i c

fallen wind
#

until i put it in another PC and PFSense booted just fine

peak cloak
#

@stable warren I needed it to distribute ethernet on the second floor

stable warren
#

well you can't beat 48p poe for 60 euro's :P unless you got it for free :)

#

i think the edgerouter X or something is able to do that also

stable warren
#

not sure about that

peak cloak
#

I don't want to mess with passive

stable warren
#

installed a bunch of them and they do their jobs fine

peak cloak
#

no active poe

fallen wind
#

I'm fed up with PFSense now, going to try Untangle

peak cloak
#

vyos is also nice

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no webgui though

#

all cli

stable warren
#

pff

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the Juniper i got only does serial console :P

fallen wind
#

i prefer a software based router

peak cloak
#

why?

tame carbon
#

mikrotik is also quite good in the lower segment

#

sharp prices for good performance

fallen wind
#

because like this weekend when the hardware shat tiself, i was back up and running in 20mins using a random old PC

quiet cairn
#

I've got a Telus modem/router with 5ghz high and low channels. What's the difference?

stable warren
#

I think the edgerouter 3 lite is underrated, easy to use, easy to install and there's enough documentation for advanced options

tame carbon
#

@quiet cairn I'm not sure Telus even knows

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there's no such thing as high and low channels

peak cloak
fallen wind
#

yeah, i've tried both over the years

#

but keep coming back to Linux

quiet cairn
tame carbon
#

@quiet cairn could be channel width

fallen wind
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(which realistically is what many "hardware" routers run anyway)

peak cloak
peak cloak
#

and so is untangle I think?

fallen wind
#

yeah which is why i got fed up with it

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Untangle is Debian

peak cloak
#

ahh ok

tame carbon
#

rOS runs a custom linux kernel

fallen wind
#

BSD is familiar enough that you think you know what your doing

#

but different enough that you dont

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๐Ÿ˜†

#

FreeNAS gave me rage for the same reason

tame carbon
#

^

#

its like on apple

fallen wind
#

Now i just run ZFS on Linux

tame carbon
#

basic shell commands, ur cool

#

but anything that has to do with the system itself: GL.

fallen wind
#

i moved house recently and spent literal hours trying to get PFSense to work with an iPhones USB ethernet

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in the end i booted a debian live usb and had basic internet up in about 15minutes

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So i'll give Untangle a go and see how i get on

quiet cairn
#

Is there any way to improve the 2.4ghz band? I live in an apartment and all channels I have access to are saturated

quiet cairn
#

Ethernet isn't really an option, and I have a few older devices (chromecast, google home) that only work on the 2.4 band and lose connection once in a while

peak cloak
#

more APs?

quiet cairn
#

I'd have to buy another router for that and bridge through for that though

fallen wind
#

why do you need another router to add an AP?

quiet cairn
#

My only AP is the shitty router/modem combo from my IP

peak cloak
fallen wind
#

so turn its WiFi off and setup a decent AP

peak cloak
#

or just have 2

fallen wind
#

dont need to change the router

peak cloak
fallen wind
#

i'm agreeing with you ๐Ÿ˜›

peak cloak
#

oh

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lol

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I read it as dont you need to change the router

hollow marlin
fallen wind
#

Most POE switches are a bit whirry

#

is the 4200 especially bad?

hollow marlin
#

4200 is terrible for noise. Crap chipset that runs quite hot

#

Well my EX2200-c is passive, but only 12 ports, but the newer 2300-24/48 are loud but with a Nocutua replacements bring it down a bit

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Enterprise gear at home makes little sense to me even at dirt cheap prices. @waxen scroll guy I was training before I left my last company had a Cisco 6500 running in his basement....not for a lab or study, just a personal switch he was "given" from his position at a hospital

waxen scroll
#

WHY

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people no

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power bill

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no cisco chassis, no pfsense

#

DUMB

peak cloak
#

this monstrosity?

waxen scroll
#

i run my home 6500 in VSS

#

watch me flex

tame carbon
#

@peak cloak do you have a small nuclear powerplant in your backyard?

peak cloak
#

no

tame carbon
#

xD

#

those power supplies at the bottom lol

rocky badge
#

@clear igloo this is so smol

clear igloo
rocky badge
#

yayyyyyy PoE powered switch for my desk

peak cloak
rocky badge
peak cloak
#

this is where mine is

#

behind the wall, hiding

#

need to mount it to the framing one day

rocky badge
#

nice ๐Ÿ˜„

peak cloak
#

need to re punchdown/crimp the other cable I routed there

#

my tester broke so idk which wire connection is the issue

raw timber
#

Questions hoe to decide if should go back to proxmos or psy for unraid

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Pay

peak cloak
#

no unraid

raw timber
#

I have lot of data on it

peak cloak
#

proxmox is a virtualization soloution, not storage

raw timber
#

I need both

#

On one sever

peak cloak
#

proxmox, with vm with pcie storage controller passed though running something like TrueNas or plain old linux with ZFS or btrfs

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don't use unraid

raw timber
#

Don't have pcie storage controllers or can afford it was thinking following https://forum.level1techs.com/t/how-to-create-a-nas-using-zfs-and-proxmox-with-pictures/117375

rocky badge
#

@peak cloak ๐Ÿ‘Œ

raw timber
#

@peak cloak don't really say whu it bad it was so stable been using it for s years for free i just now have to pay if power go out

peak cloak
#

it's kinda bad

#

if you value your data, just don't

raw timber
#

I did he jsut repeat him self over and over

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So how do I move data off it

peak cloak
#

normally?

raw timber
#

Remember i just have one sever ther a lot ther

rocky badge
#

@clear igloo This switch sips power....

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1.4W over PoE

clear igloo
#

poe powered?

raw timber
#

And no huge storage on my pc

peak cloak
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

idk

peak cloak
clear igloo
#

Nice

rocky badge
raw timber
#

Can proxmos import unraid data

rocky badge
#

6-8 are APs

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3 is the flex mini

peak cloak
#

mine uses 1.3 W

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my AP uses 3.5 W

peak cloak
#

that guide shows using ZFS

#

unraid probably has some propriety shitty storage

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if it works for you then

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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pay for it

raw timber
#

Why is zfs better i have mixed drivers

peak cloak
#

each drive in a pool? or dev? needs to be the same capacity I think?

#

btrfs is also an option

raw timber
#

And work but no lxc support so i am stuck with docker which makes set upwhst i want for pilehole hard

peak cloak
#

wut?

#

pihole in docker is easy

raw timber
#

Hum i have big amd small driv

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I can't do this

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Lxc would be able to do it easy

peak cloak
#

that's for unbound + pihole

#

why do you need unbound

raw timber
#

I want unbound instead of use 1.1.1.1 dns or Google dns

peak cloak
#

you still need an upstream dns server right?

raw timber
raw timber
#

????

peak cloak
#

the root DNS servers

#

wait

#

let me check

#

yep

peak cloak
#

this also makes it slower

#

unbound can also be configured as a forwarder

raw timber
#

But more secure

peak cloak
#

in a way, yeah

#

depends what you define as secure

#

cloudflare is secure

#

google is secure

raw timber
#

That article say they could log you the reason i want it is you cna change at any time

peak cloak
#

I don't understand what you are saying

raw timber
#

??

peak cloak
#

yeah, I would call it more private, not necessarily much more secure

#

it is slightly

rocky badge
#

3 magical letters

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That can fuck you over if you forget them

peak cloak
stable warren
#

@hollow marlin it's quite OK, got a closet where all is located no noise at all and only 1 psu is on

hollow marlin
rocky badge
#

yeee

hollow marlin
#

Bout time. Now just XE ping

clear igloo
#

I've heard rumors but not seen anything yet ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

hollow marlin
#

Ive been getting into the weeds with XR and can't go back to NXOS/XE. XE would require a complete overhaul i'd imagine to implement it

clear igloo
#

Yah I'm sure although now with converged code for controller and standalone on XE it might be possible

stiff panther
#

installed plex media server but got no welcome wizard..

#

idk whats going on

#

just unable to setup

dawn canyon
#

Hey, my friends parents are tracking her on the wifi to make sure she doesnโ€™t go to sleep too late, if she disconnects from the wifi and uses data will her parents be able to see she has disconnected?

little schooner
#

@dawn canyon yes disconnected, no to tracking

minor girder
#

Whats duckduckgo?

#

i think im saying it wrong lol

#

someone said to me it was like google?

peak cloak
minor girder
#

Is it better then Google?

#

Or bing ?

peak cloak
#

it's more privacy focused

minor girder
#

Like in the results?

#

I notice google tends to throw in sl.e weird links

#

Paid links probably

waxen saddle
#

Thereโ€™s also swisscows, which has an interesting context filter.

thorny vector
#

@stiff panther Try Jellyfin. In my opinion, better than plex in every way.

peak cloak
#

+1 for jellyfin

tacit mantle
#

ive got an xbox 360 wireless adapter and i was wondering if it will have any use on my pc

#

this one

cursive valve
#

It won't be fast

#

But it should work. @tacit mantle

tacit mantle
#

it wont work apparently

#

there isnt a driver

thick minnow
#

hello

#

i found an old web page with information, i tried to read it but i have no idea what it really is

#

its main focus is something to do with disabling syn cookies in your router?

thorny vector
#

Modern consumer routers normally do this anyways

#

@thick minnow

#

Itโ€™s why DOS-ing someone nowadays is pretty non existent outside of application specific attacks.

zenith yoke
#

idk if this is enough to run a small minecraft server

thorny vector
#

@zenith yoke yes.

dreamy glen
#

hi everyone, im currently setting up wired connections to two pcs from a switch. having trouble however ๐Ÿ˜‘ . anyone have tips or recommendations?

ruby bramble
#

Whatโ€™s the problem @dreamy glen

thick minnow
#

I hate that we cant just search wap anymore because of cardi b

ruby bramble
#

Thanks cardi

thick minnow
#

Just a lot of ass on my screen

#

๐Ÿฅฒ

lone sun
thick minnow
#

just type wap in a browser

lone sun
#

Wireless access p#### ๐Ÿ˜†

#

Who needs wireless when you can just stick it right in the hole. ๐Ÿ˜†

naive meadow
naive meadow
#

just came into stock

thick minnow
#

i want one too

#

can you pay with kidneys

#

i only need one

lone sun
#

๐Ÿคจ People still game on laptops?

naive meadow
#

doing animation, film and photo editing etcetera at school

#

also going to uni next year and I would prefer to be able to actually do my work out of my dorm room

thick minnow
#

theyre promising

naive meadow
#

honestly the cpu performance in this laptop is possibly better than my desktop which is running an 8700K

lone sun
#

@thick minnow But the heat though. ๐Ÿ˜“

thick minnow
#

just sit in a fridge

naive meadow
#

from what I have seen for it even with the 3080 variant unless you are doing heavy work it does not get super hot

lone sun
#

๐Ÿ˜’ Don't worry, it will get hot.

naive meadow
#

of course

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just not as much while doing most day to day things

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such as writing

lone sun
#

Sure....I wouldn't do too much intensive stuff on it though. And who would buy such a laptop just to type? ๐Ÿ™ƒ

naive meadow
#

as I said
I would also be doing photoshop, video editing, visual effects and animation on it

#

but when I would be doing those it does not matter if it gets loud

dreamy glen
ruby bramble
#

Ok

random nest
thick minnow
#

yes

#

good

random nest
#

wait hang on, small content creators get demonitized for a swear but youtube promoted that video

#

and that is alot more worse

#

fucking hell

thick minnow
#

Youtube sucks tbh

#

stupid rules

random nest
#

i agree

#

anyone got any recommendations for any power over ethernet plugs that are stable and work (enough to play fivem at a decent fps) and is at a resonable price. GBP prices

plucky cargo
#

whyy....

tame carbon
#

@random nest you are looking for wat exactly?

#

since when does power over ethernet have an impact on gaming performance O.o

random nest
#

its not that

#

what the hell

#

k its that

#

Since the power lines ive got with my current ISP are shite

#

for latency

tame carbon
#

power over ethernet does not have anything to do with that

#

Its a standard, that provides power to a device connected over wired ethernet

#

@random nest I think you're confusing powerline ethernet with PoE

random nest
#

yeah think I am

#

its those powerlines things that are crap

tame carbon
#

yeah but their performance is heavily dependent on the quality of the house' electrical system

compact bolt
#

hello people, I recently renovated my home lan with cat 8 ethernet cables, but I am only getting about 950 mbits/sec over the network (tested with iperf). I figure this is due to the network adapters on the computers which are only gigabit cards, which was a miscalculation on my part (I thought speeds were in gigabytes not gigabits). are there 40gbps network adapters I could buy to use in these computers in order to make use of the cat8s? I realize I would also need to replace other network devices like network switches.

tame carbon
#

cat 8 isnt even recognized officially

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@compact bolt beyond 10G, copper isnt feasible

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use fiber optics

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and measuring 950M with iperf on a 1G link, sounds about right

#

there's some protocol overhead

compact bolt
#

10G should still be doable on copper though, right?

#

I don't think I can afford fiber optics rn

tame carbon
#

fiber optics are cheaper than copper :P

#

@compact bolt 10G RJ45 interfaces are very expensive

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and you are limited to 25 meters in ideal scenarios

compact bolt
#

hmm.. I see. โ‚ฌ85 for 10G is kinda expensive, yep. I guess I went overboard :/

tame carbon
#

@compact bolt 100 meters singlemode fiber costs ~30 bucks

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individual tranceivers (you need two) cost around 15-20 bucks

#

10G is still affordable with fiber optics

#

25G and upwards, gets expensive quickly

#

I have 10G local here

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and little 10G switch

compact bolt
#

what about the pc interface?

tame carbon
#

SFP+ card

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I got one of these in my server

#

SFP+ modules plug in there

#

Those modules can be fiber optic or RJ45 copper

compact bolt
#

oh wow.. this is all new for me, never explored post-copper lol

tame carbon
#

Router also has an SFP+ port

#

@compact bolt yeah, there's more network interface types than RJ45

jaunty talon
#

Which router is that? :)

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon shhh

jaunty talon
#

;)

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon I got yelled at the other day for only suggesting mikrotik xD

jaunty talon
#

Haha!

tame carbon
#

Its all I know and trust, coming from consumer gear originally

#

and making a recommendation, I'm even willing to help people set it up

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which I've done on 4 occassions now

jaunty talon
#

I dont hate mikrotik =)

tame carbon
#

^^

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@compact bolt once you get into higher speed networking, you'll find SFP in various types

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SFP, SFP+, QSFP, QSFP+, SFP28, etc

jaunty talon
#

@tame carbon how is NAT performance in that router?

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon err, I've not ran into any limiting factors on it.

jaunty talon
#

Might actually recommend it to a friend!

tame carbon
#

I've been able to push 10G on that, without fastpath

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I use bandwidth queues here

#

so fastpath is a no go

jaunty talon
#

On the RB4011iGS+RM?

tame carbon
#

ye

jaunty talon
#

cool

tame carbon
#

this thing has enormous amount of horsepowers

jaunty talon
#

but its 1GBase-T not 10GBase-T?

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon it has two 2.5G switching chips, each 5 1G ports

#

and the SFP+ is directly on the SoC with full 10G

#

You're limited in routing capacity, which is the biggest fail of the RB4011

#

it should have a 2nd 10G port

#

but as a router on a stick, paired with a switch, its great :D

compact bolt
tame carbon
#

@compact bolt Cat6a would do you good enough for 1G and even 10G I believe

compact bolt
#

problem is we've already gone through and did all the work on cat8

tame carbon
#

Yeah, but that is fine for house electrics

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if you ran them to outlets

#

Fiber optics is just more reliable, and not subject to electromagnetic interference

compact bolt
#

not even sure I can route that through my house, I heard you can't bend it too much right?

tame carbon
#

nah

#

lemme find you the doc from fs.com

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10mm bend radius, which is pretty good

jaunty talon
#

Might get a few of those and use them for my OOB network

compact bolt
#

what about multiple consecutive bends?

jaunty talon
#

Do they have routers with 4g/5g support alsรฅ?

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon LTE?

jaunty talon
#

aye

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as backup

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon some of their devices have USB interfaces for LTE dongles

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RB4011 doesnt have USB or LTE

#

They do however, sell an LTE variant of the new ac3

jaunty talon
#

more looking at 19" stuff then

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon yeah but LTE antenna in a 19" rack

#

not ideal

jaunty talon
#

It's fine!

#

;)

#

Just need to do some SSH over it in worst cases

tame carbon
#
#

This is their latest all-in-one-LTE-capable-router-wifi-thingie

jaunty talon
#

doesnt look like its rackable tho ?

tame carbon
#

Nah, none of their LTE gear is

jaunty talon
#

=(

#

do they have dongles then?

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon if your routerboard supports mini PCIe expansion

#

You can just buy an add in card

#
#

And afaik

#

the RB4011 does have PCIe

jaunty talon
#

CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS looks like a competent device

tame carbon
#

Here's an RB4011 (wifi variant)

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regular RB4011 ^

#

You can see the mini PCIe slot

jaunty talon
#

yeah dont care about RB4011 anymore :D

tame carbon
#

oh that one

#

ye it has all the ports

#

@jaunty talon price difference is significant though

jaunty talon
#

dont care about price

tame carbon
#

and I don't see LTE on this device ;)

jaunty talon
#

same :(

tame carbon
#

@jaunty talon

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doesnt even have PCIe expansion

jaunty talon
#

meh

tame carbon
#

what a maniac ^

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@jaunty talon cheapest LTE solution would be getting one of their USB capable routers and using a dongle
Most elegant solution would be an RB4011 or equivalent, with an LTE card

jaunty talon
#

do they have dongles?

#

or do I need to find a dongle that works for the device somewhere else?

tame carbon
#

they have quite an extensive list of third party modems

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@jaunty talon the RB4011 (without wifi) has a vacant PCIe slot

#

so you can make use of that, using any generic PCIe modem on that list

jaunty talon
#

https://mikrotik.com/product/r11e_lte would work with RB4011 then or?

tame carbon
#

fg;iyhfgd[oi'hufgdoipj'[hdfg

#

EXCEPTIONS?!

#

you fuckers

jaunty talon
#

:P

#
tame carbon
#

That might.

#

That one has a sweet ass CPU

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no switching chips, purely routing

#

if you can find a compatible USB dongle with that one, I'm sure it'd work

jaunty talon
#

Yeah, dont need switch

#

just need a few SVI's

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if you can find :D

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that's not something i want to hear!!!

tame carbon
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@jaunty talon I know we're steering off track with this, but have you considered one of these? https://mikrotik.com/product/sxt_lte_kit :D

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they have a sim slot for backup connectivity

jaunty talon
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yeah, dont want that

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i want something rackable

tame carbon
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I went through this list of USB interfaces

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found one of those huawei usb dongles

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for 120 bucks

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which is very steep imo

jaunty talon
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which one? :)

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i dont care about the money :D

tame carbon
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hold on, nah the one I found is listed as 'ppp' only

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not LTE

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I mean, I am just going through this list of vendor parts

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that are known to work

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most of them arent even sold anymore

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Huawei E8372

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I gotta for now, getting a haircut after 4 months..

clear mica
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hey guys, question about vpn and multiple ethernet/internal ips .. how would you go about the vpn only working on one interface, and the other interface being unaffected? if it is even possible

peak cloak
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idk how to do that on windows

clear mica
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alrite, it is running windows

thick minnow
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can anyone explain the use of 2,5gbit ethernet ports on motherboards

compact bolt
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where can I find this stuff in Italy/EU and how much does it go for on avg? Amazon only seems to have industrial grade stuff, I'd be fine with like 2 SFP+/SFP28 and 4 RJ45

peak cloak
thick minnow
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mmm

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I think people who want faster than 1 gbit will just go for 10gbit

peak cloak
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you could do it over copper, but at that point I'd invest in sfp+ and fiber

thick minnow
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thats why the 2,5 gbit port is useless

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you need to upgrade your home network to 10 gbit and at that point you just buy an sfp+ pci card

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so it doesnt make sense

peak cloak
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to have LAN multi-gig

thick minnow
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mmmmm

clear igloo
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6 can do 5Gbit up to 100m but 10Gbit only up to 55m in the best conditions

tame carbon
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@compact bolt the CCR that @jaunty talon posted, CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS

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This is around 600 euros

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and getting your hands on this should be quite straightforward, since mikrotik is an EU company

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@compact bolt if you value your money, don't buy electronics from amazon

fallen wind
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Any thoughts on affordable DAS units that arent ludicrously expensive or loud?

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I have a Dell MD1000, which works, but has a daft limitation of only being able to use one SAS channel when using SATA drives

fickle glacier
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Does anyone know how to install a .pem certificate on a synology?

clear mica
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RE: multigig switch, i looked a fair amount on QNAP QSW-1105-5T, which is a 5port 2.5g switch at a reasonable price

peak cloak
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just discovered scrcpy, pretty nice to control my phone over usb or IP

formal lily
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Anyone know why I cant ssh into my server from my ip. It was fine did a backup went back to ssh and I cant connect with my ip if I use a vpn it works?

tame carbon
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can you even ping it?

lone sun
peak cloak
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it's distance and interference that matters

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over like 1 foot it could do 10 gigabit

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it's not certified to, but it could

lone sun
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Interesting๐Ÿค” ...They gave the impression in net+ that it can only do 1gig. Guess I remember it wrong.

tame carbon
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there's direct attach cables for 25G that use copper

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though only short distances