and IDFs connect back to the MDF at multiple 10/40/100 gig
#networking
rocky badge
then clients connect to switches at the IDF
this IDF powers one wing of the school
(the fine arts wing)
peak cloak
school so small we only have a MDF, although I think all the traffic either goes to dedicated fiber to the main campus or via fiber
rocky badge
That's why all of the labels start with F
The MDF at this district powers the ENTIRE district
it has the fat armored 96 strand fiber cable off the street
peak cloak
ah, idk how my district does things
all I know is that they cap us at 30
and that they are there own ISP I think
peak cloak
never checked if they have an AS number
yep
they do
only one peer
no wonder it's so slow
desert briar
Sorry to butt in again, but any idea what these are? - https://www.fs.com/products/23298.html?attribute=3044&id=96996
peak cloak
optimum wifi
rocky badge
Cable # markers
peak cloak
at least publically announed
rocky badge
optimum wifi
oooooof
desert briar
oh, thanks
little schooner
I broke two keystones during termination
how hard exactly am I supposed to push down?
I also did the mistake of have the cut blade inside instead of out
Lastly, when I pushed down hard, the keystone flew and the plastic holding down copper wire snapped
I'm off to a bad start
waxen scroll
Nothing wrong with extreme
little schooner
@waxen scroll is regex rule matching a thing if I pay for o365 email
im sick of free outlook.com not supporting such a thing. the junk is relentless, coming in
with no way of having regex matching or to delete email if body content is empty
i remember exchange having transport rules to configure that does work from one of my win admin lab courses
waxen scroll
i dont think regex is a thing in exchange
rocky badge
Only an Outlook desktop client macro
little schooner
@rocky badge but not on the server side right?
rocky badge
Nope
little schooner
:(
waxen scroll
@little schooner i want to auto decline peoples dumb invites that say PTO in them and I cant even do that one basic thing
i shouldnt have to script jack for that. it should be a simple GUI option
why can i filter by email headers and take action but not calendar invites????
@rocky badge guess what
they phish test us all the time and theres a header that says phish test
i auto delete and auto report them
got a rule
lol
rocky badge
peak cloak
anyone else on linux gets these things after waking from sleep
ik sleep on linux is weird, but still
drowsy lava
anyone good at linux network config. not sure what i am doing wrong with setting static on pi
peak cloak
anyone good at linux network config. not sure what i am doing wrong with settin...
yeah sure
what's the issue
also I dislike using statics, use dhcp static leases instead
drowsy lava
current conf
peak cloak
DHCP is basically like walking up to the hotel counter and getting a room, DHCP statics are going to the counter with a reservation, and statics are just breaking into a hotel room without telling anyone
drowsy lava
when ever i set that. it wont take and takes DHCP. when i put it on a port that is just static. no DHCP. sets the hw address
oh i get that. This is going into an old network where i dont touch the config overlly. just building up some PI kiosks for video loop. setting a static for now to have an SCP script over to it to upload videos.
stoppps the HR lady from walking aroundd with USB sticks.
drowsy lava
i set one pi fine. it worked no issues. copied the conf. Changed the ip to one higher. 101
scp it over to the new pi with my other configs. but no go
peak cloak
hmm, I only know the basics with dhcpcd.conf so no clue tbh, just as a sanity you restarted the dhcp service and if that didn't work restarted the pi
drowsy lava
yep did that.
even pulled the SD. rebuilt from fresh. started over again and same issue. so im breaking it somewhere.
peak cloak
I'm out of ideas
serene sparrow
Is this the right place to ask about wifi stuff?
drowsy lava
yes
@peak cloak no idea what it was but i coped over the conf from the new pi. just edited it there vs upload previous. Worked. did a dif. nothing different. not sure. but its working
serene sparrow
Ok, so i have a router at home (obviously) and for now it has been working fine. But when i use my pc (with onboard WiFi on the mobo) the connection is really bad
peak cloak
<@!222482269829332992> no idea what it was but i coped over the conf from the n...
huh, good that's it working
serene sparrow
drowsy lava
pretty low signal
serene sparrow
That’s what i figured
But the thing is, my laptop got 5bar (haven’t checked rssi)
drowsy lava
so its like cell phones. Inital contact can always have high. but then when you use it (chatter) it can drop
peak cloak
well when the laptop is at the same location where the PC is?
slate sonnet
Hey guys, is it possible to port forward using pppoe? Does anyone know?
drowsy lava
due to interference and or sharing the same channel.
peak cloak
so its like cell phones. Inital contact can always have high. but then when you ...
yep, wifi is a shared resource
serene sparrow
well when the laptop is at the same location where the PC is?
Yes
peak cloak
is the laptop AC?
serene sparrow
But i’m only using the laptop to test for the signal so i’m not using it
drowsy lava
hmm
peak cloak
because I only see wifi g and n on that program you are using
serene sparrow
is the laptop AC?
Wait, let me check
drowsy lava
what is the source of wifi? router. or AP. or repeater or PC with wifi card or USB stick?
serene sparrow
what is the source of wifi? router. or AP. or repeater or PC with wifi card or ...
It’s a router
Or AP?
drowsy lava
what kind?
serene sparrow
Don’t really know the diff, it’s the thing that plugs into the modem
serene sparrow
what kind?
Dlink dir-612
peak cloak
Hey guys, is it possible to port forward using pppoe? Does anyone know?
pppoe is just a protocol, your ISP may use cgnat or block certain ports
slate sonnet
Huh, okay
peak cloak
Don’t really know the diff, it’s the thing that plugs into the modem
ok so it's an N router
serene sparrow
so you can't get anything over 100mbps
hAh, i’d be lucky if i get above 20
drowsy lava
that low of signal i would be shocked if u get that
peak cloak
could be just wifi card on motherboard
serene sparrow
could be just wifi card on motherboard
Someone suggested getting a new antenna
drowsy lava
that low. antenna would have to be disconnected from the card.
serene sparrow
that low. antenna would have to be disconnected from the card.
You’d be surprised
serene sparrow
peak cloak
you have something like that fully plugged in and tightened?
drowsy lava
ahh i thought it was a laptop
serene sparrow
ahh i thought it was a laptop
The laptop was the one i used to confirm that it’s not the router’s fault
drowsy lava
ahh ok
peak cloak
best solution is just to use ethernet, but ik it's not possible for everyone
drowsy lava
login to the router. look at wifi page. see if there is a transmit power setting
serene sparrow
No, i can’t pull a cable to my room
drowsy lava
crank it
then also look for a wifi scan too. on your phone or laptop and pick a wireless channel that no one else is on if possible.
serene sparrow
From laptop
drowsy lava
that looks very good
serene sparrow
Anything i should change?
drowsy lava
well WPS has been cracked long ago. so if curious kids it could be an issue
beyond that looks fine
serene sparrow
Sorry for the screenshots btw, my ISP is having seizures rn so im on mobile
serene sparrow
I’m trying to eliminate factors here
drowsy lava
router looks good. not much config change
serene sparrow
So should i buy an antenna first
drowsy lava
ohhh click advanced
peak cloak
it's a wifi card issue then, I guess you may be able to try to get better antennaes
serene sparrow
Advanced tab is just acl, url block, dns stuff
peak cloak
oh, I get what you mean
drowsy lava
ahh ok
drowsy lava
its been a while since ive been in dlink
but router looks good. laptop looks good.
time to look at PC.
serene sparrow
peak cloak
maybe move the antenna's? If they are behind the pc like that, it could be an issue?
serene sparrow
its been a while since ive been in dlink
I’m looking for a new ISP, time for a new router too
slate sonnet
well WPS has been cracked long ago. so if curious kids it could be an issue
So I should turn off WPS?
peak cloak
So I should turn off WPS?
yep
serene sparrow
maybe move the antenna's? If they are behind the pc like that, it could be an is...
I’ve tried it
peak cloak
my AP doesn't even have WPS, there is no need
peak cloak
i would personally
WPS was great when on vacation though
find the router, click the button
drowsy lava
@serene sparrow look at the PC antennas. Take them off. Test. put them back on. test. See if a change. if not. open device manager find the wifi card. Right click. uninstall. Reboot
reinstall drivers and try again
serene sparrow
Even switched to my multimedia player’s antenna. Rssi went from 85 to 79
peak cloak
I haven't done something wrong here, right?
doesn't look like
what are the first 2 octets of your WAN IP on your router
slate sonnet
octets?
peak cloak
so like 123.456.x.x
drowsy lava
each group is an octet.
peak cloak
^
slate sonnet
91.236
slate sonnet
each group is an octet.
Nice to know
peak cloak
on the router right? not searching on google?
slate sonnet
Oh, I searched on google
slate sonnet
Ah
peak cloak
look under maybe the PPPoE interface
slate sonnet
10.1
slate sonnet
Oh
peak cloak
do you have ipv6 by any chance?
slate sonnet
Nothing that I can do?
slate sonnet
do you have ipv6 by any chance?
Not on my router
peak cloak
does you ISP have it though?
peak cloak
because in ipv6 each device gets a public IP, each house get's at least a /64 block which is 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 addresses
slate sonnet
So if I had ipv6, I could port forward
peak cloak
well no such thing as port forward in ipv6
slate sonnet
Well, yeah
peak cloak
just open the firewall
slate sonnet
How would someone connect though? Just use public ip or something?
peak cloak
use the ip of the device
serene sparrow
Wait that’s minecraft?
peak cloak
let me show you an example, give me a sec @slate sonnet
slate sonnet
Wait that’s minecraft?
I'm trying to setup a server, yeah
Well I'm trying to figure out how people can access A server on my network
Would love to host more than a minecraft server for my friends
serene sparrow
I just do this
serene sparrow
Well I'm trying to figure out how people can access A server on my network
So are your friends within your LAN?
Or outside
slate sonnet
No
peak cloak
@slate sonnet So I get a /64 from tunnelbroker. This is the network 2001:470:___:111::/64 (omitted one octet for privacy). My router's IP would be 2001:470:___:111::1 A device that is on your LAN would get an address like this 2001:470:____:111:123:456:789:111 So you would open port 25565 though the router to 2001:470:____:111:123:456:789:111 and give your friends this IP
slate sonnet
Outside
peak cloak
So are your friends within your LAN?
You don't understand @slate sonnet is under CGNAT
serene sparrow
Oh rip
peak cloak
you can't port forward under NAT unless you have access to the router that is doing NAT. His ISP is NATing so he doesn't have access
ipv6 is great because no NAT
unless you are stupid to NAT ipv6
serene sparrow
Can you connect through ipv6 on mc tho
slate sonnet
Well rip me then
peak cloak
annoy mojang about it
slate sonnet
Guess I'm gonna have to switch houses lmao
serene sparrow
Use hamachi?
slate sonnet
Too complicated
peak cloak
Guess I'm gonna have to switch houses lmao
take a look at zerotier
slate sonnet
Use hamachi?
Every time I would have to set it up, etc
serene sparrow
How many of y’all have switched to ipv6
peak cloak
How many of y’all have switched to ipv6
you don't really switch persay, you run dual-stack
serene sparrow
We don’t have it available at all
peak cloak
so ipv4 and v6
me neither
I use tunnlebroker to get a ipv6 tunnel
but my ISP (verizon) doesn't have native v6
HE also does ipv6 certifications
you need to setup an ipv6 webserver and mailserver
among other things
slate sonnet
So if I use zerotier, my friends won't need to dl it too, right?
Or do they have to have it too
peak cloak
So if I use zerotier, my friends won't need to dl it too, right?
they would
I'm not an expert in zerotier but lots of people recommend it
serene sparrow
Btw what kind of antenna should i get
serene sparrow
so many available
dBi rating?
serene sparrow
@drowsy lava ?
drowsy lava
Oh sorry was in pi world. ahaha
any high gain antenna off amazon would do. but i like these kind the most
that way they can go above all the power noise or closer to the source
serene sparrow
Is 22dBi realistic?
drowsy lava
ive also used these before.
No its not. its all sales BS. best case possible in a lab with no EMI aruond. not even human body EMI
serene sparrow
Ok, so lets say i got a 6dB antenna
drowsy lava
im just not convinced its the antenna right off. they are generally solid beyond the bend point.
its just a thin copper wire and or copper mesh
so pretty flexable
serene sparrow
im just not convinced its the antenna right off. they are generally solid beyond...
That’s the thing
slate sonnet
take a look at zerotier
Ooo, so its an app that allows my pc to be in a lan environment, while being out of the network?
serene sparrow
I’m not sure as well
slate sonnet
So kinda like hamachi
drowsy lava
i would try the drivers first
slate sonnet
But less difficult to use
peak cloak
Ooo, so its an app that allows my pc to be in a lan environment, while being out...
yeah, it tunnels L2 over the internet
friends need to download it as well
serene sparrow
How can i test if the built in wifi is broken ?
drowsy lava
reinstall drivers first.
and or boot up a linux os that supports it and test it that way
limits software issues
boot into bios. turn it off
reboot.
power off.
Then power on and turn it on
see if any change
serene sparrow
Ah shit i have to deal with linux now
serene sparrow
Not that i fear it or anything
drowsy lava
try to reinstall drivers. as with windows that is normally a problem no matter whta
serene sparrow
I have to set up paritions and whatnot
drowsy lava
but first. Try drivers first. Cant say that enough.
drowsy lava
reboot
then see if it auto detects. if not use laptop. go to mainboard driver site. download. move them over to PC vis USB and install
peak cloak
@drowsy lava that is... if there are linux drivers
serene sparrow
I have the drivers, needed to update a while back
drowsy lava
the pc is windows right?
serene sparrow
Yes
serene sparrow
Done
serene sparrow
So it autodetects
drowsy lava
remove the antennas for a moment. see if it changes anything
it should drop the signal to nothing. but thats not much lower than what your getting
wise sedge
trying to replace the combo unit
drowsy lava
it will work
wise sedge
better than combo unit?
peak cloak
https://www.amazon.ca/Ubiquiti-UniFi-Dream-Machine-UDM-US/dp/B081QNJFPV/ref=sr_1...
oh no not unifi!
drowsy lava
hahahah
wise sedge
I mean... it is 4x the price
peak cloak
better than combo unit?
to me, that is a combo unit tbh
drowsy lava
but yes the TP link will be better than the combo
wise sedge
so it better be better
peak cloak
yeah, although depends what you define as better
drowsy lava
its only better if you have an issue to fix.
peak cloak
I've heard of tplink having firmware issues
drowsy lava
if there is no issue and you just want more power. then its gonna cost ya
wise sedge
the combo kicks me out once in a while
drowsy lava
change channels?
wise sedge
will the router changing channels kick me out of the network?
peak cloak
I personally have this for wifi https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/ceiling-mount-access-point/eap225/
drowsy lava
thoes are nice ones. used them before i went unifi
serene sparrow
@drowsy lava i just don’ understand how a router 5 metres away has the same strength as another AP past 2 walls about 15m away
drowsy lava
hahaha there are so many variables with wifi its hard to say
you have never messed with the wifi card config settings in windows did you?
wise sedge
I dont understand why this goes from 1 bar to 3 bar from time to time
while both are at the exact place
drowsy lava
sounds like interference.
wise sedge
always on 5ghz
peak cloak
ah ok
wise sedge
I got them split
drowsy lava
had that once years ago on 2.4. was a compressor in a fridge kicking on
wise sedge
no
wise sedge
like with microwave on, 2.4 gest messe dup
peak cloak
yeah lots of things are on 2.4 ghz
wise sedge
so what can be messing with 5ghz?
serene sparrow
@drowsy lava does any antenna support any freq?
wise sedge
should I lock the channel?
drowsy lava
@wise sedge i would not. its auto logic to move to a clean channel should be fine.
again WPS hahaha
peak cloak
I enabled band steering on my AP
serene sparrow
Wait so, 5GHz.... λ=6cm?
drowsy lava
what channel options do you have?
drowsy lava
try the 157
its in the 5g range.
lots of older devices cant talk that high
normally is clear. Unless your in an apartment
but again. Older devices may not be able to use it
wise sedge
I have an apartment nearby
well, theres always 2.4 for older devices right?
I want my laptop to stop dying in the middle of a call
drowsy lava
try it and see how oit goes
serene sparrow
I want my laptop to stop dying in the middle of a call
Just be nice to it and politely tell it to stop dying
drowsy lava
Computer speaking nice is kicking it in the front panel.
wise sedge
so 40 is still 5ghz? but ~157 is better?
I dont get how those are different
and why the big jump
with my app I see a bunch of things on the ~157 range
drowsy lava
157 has less devices that can use it
hmmm
then you may just be in a congested area
wifi 6, with taging/painting could help but thats still a bit off from consumer.
peak cloak
6e also introduces higher freqencies
drowsy lava
with your app is there any channel that has the least amount of chatter?
wise sedge
the free channels are not available on my combo unit
wise sedge
the app says my ap is 36m away..., but it is like 7
slate sonnet
If I use ZeroTier, can I technically ssh into my pcs at home?
drowsy lava
as wifi is still Radio. one thing talks at a time on each antenna.
dont worry about that
slate sonnet
Or any pc on the network
drowsy lava
the apps will always be wonky at distance.
peak cloak
If I use ZeroTier, can I technically ssh into my pcs at home?
yeah
drowsy lava
unless its a pro tool. its not worth the guess
slate sonnet
That's sick
peak cloak
@slate sonnet I actually have a vpn set up
slate sonnet
Thank you for showing me this
peak cloak
so I connect to my vpn and then I'm in my network
serene sparrow
Oh, it stopped being so bad
peak cloak
I use wireguard
serene sparrow
Ok, i think the solution is to buy a new antenna for now. See where i go from there
wise sedge
where is the best place to place a router?
like in a single room but need to access it in other rooms
and really never in that room
drowsy lava
think of wifi like a bubble.
and you get to the center of hte bubble to get your signal
straight line of sight through anything
peak cloak
where is the best place to place a router?
in the middle of everything
wise sedge
that wont be possible with the combo unit, the cable goes into the garage
peak cloak
I have my AP on my stairwell wall
drowsy lava
Wifi is best in the middle. BUT>>> your light of sight should not go through. water. Steel. TV's. Appliances. Bathrooms
wise sedge
I am like above the garage on a bit to the side
peak cloak
true
peak cloak
Wifi is best in the middle. BUT>>> your light of sight should not go through. wa...
NA houses are better with wifi penetration because wood and drywall
drowsy lava
NA?
peak cloak
north american
serene sparrow
Insulations
drowsy lava
Inside wetwalls. Bad for wifi
wise sedge
would it be close to walls be bad?
serene sparrow
Wetwalls?
wise sedge
drywall
peak cloak
tin studs are becoming common.
tin?? Those are the metal studs?
drowsy lava
wet walls are walls that have water pipes behind it
wise sedge
it is in the garage
wise sedge
um, no idea
drowsy lava
worse when some idiot grounds something to it. MY gof
wise sedge
wood studs I think
peak cloak
Yes. metal studs.
we are using those to renovate the basement
serene sparrow
I don’t understand NA houses lol, y’all use gypsum and plywood for just about everything
peak cloak
guess I'm getting another AP for the basement
wise sedge
so like, I should stick the router as high as possible in the garage
peak cloak
worse when some idiot grounds something to it. MY gof
faraday cage
wise sedge
so I am closer on the second floor
peak cloak
I don’t understand NA houses lol, y’all use gypsum and plywood for just about ev...
easy to contruct
wise sedge
?
would that help
?
right, that wall has the electric panel on it, so that does not help ?
peak cloak
we aren't using wooden studs for basement in case water comes in
drowsy lava
@serene sparrow Glased tiles in bathrooms and kitchens have metal in them.
Running water creates an EMI field. the faster it runs the larger tthe field. the more interference you get
Appliances and all have their own issues.,
Bathrooms due to metal tubs for older homes and running water. Heair dryers and glased tiles.
there is a wet wood you can get. but it aint cheap
better insulation though. we use it in ours but then foamed the whole thing so its water tight from penetration
leaks are another story ahahha
@peak cloak when renoing the basement. Run network cables.
peak cloak
better insulation though. we use it in ours but then foamed the whole thing so i...
my parents bought the house which was like really old and completely renovated so everything feels new, although no ethernet everywhere so I had to add that. Also used foam insulation everywhere
ocean pivot
Nice 😉
peak cloak
<@!222482269829332992> when renoing the basement. Run network cables.
will do
wise sedge
I was getting around 30-40 before...
thick minnow
i live on 20 download and 2 upload
peak cloak
<@!222482269829332992> when renoing the basement. Run network cables.
won't drywall the basement ceiling just doing snap ceiling probobly
wise sedge
so, should I raise my router up so it is closer to me?
and get rid of any metal round me?
the router*
drowsy lava
@peak cloak thats what we did. though i cheated and did foamed crown moulding. very lite. its Velcro on with cables behind it
well straight line of sight.
thorny vector
Hey, who here has a physical linux box they could run a command on? Need to test some grep regex.
drowsy lava
Radio waves dont like going around things. They go through it. like bull in china shopp
thicker the thing or more dense. Bull go slow.
= Wifi go slow
peak cloak
Hey, who here has a physical linux box they could run a command on? Need to test...
on linux rn, what do you need
peak cloak
ip link show | grep '[1-9]\: ' | cut -d ":" -f 2
lo
enp0s31f6
wlp4s0
virbr0
virbr0-nic
thick minnow
its the rules 🤷♂️
drowsy lava
so he gets a tisk tisk. move on
thorny vector
@peak cloak Thank you. Most of my linux boxes are VM's, need to make sure physical nics don't have any craziness
slate sonnet
btw https://slavesfor.rent/vVf8UAAb
that url is... odd
thick minnow
i could of picked a completely inappropriate one but didnt
if u want a invite to the custom sharex urls dm
peak cloak
and paste in discord
slate sonnet
Yup
thorny vector
Self host best host
thick minnow
use pays.host
peak cloak
yeah I ditched cloudflare
thick minnow
yeah cloudflare is ass
rocky badge
Cloudflare is fine
thick minnow
no
thorny vector
cloudflare is fine
rocky badge
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
thorny vector
Gandi is a superior registrar though 😉
rocky badge
Cloudflare is not just a registrar
rocky badge
I use a mixture, google domains, cloudflare, namecheap
thorny vector
I know, just saying people that use it as just a registrar are missing out
rocky badge
All 3 have been fine
peak cloak
don't want presentmonkey.something on my resume
thick minnow
yikes
thorny vector
It makes sense as a cdn and security net
rocky badge
And most people are using cloudflare as a nameserver & proxy
Not registrar
Although prices for cloudflare are really good
thick minnow
no way
rocky badge
I'm paying like $8/year for a .com
thorny vector
That include a ssl?
rocky badge
While most others charge $12
lmao paying for ssl
Cloudflare provides free ssl and let's encrypt exists
peak cloak
let's encrypt all the way if you are not anything big
rocky badge
Even big corps use let's encrypt
thorny vector
Lets encypt is eventually not going to be as trusted, because it can be automated. Most malicious domains use it.
rocky badge
Google uses it by default for their google cloud load balancer
Although aws provides ACM for free too via their Amazon Root CA
peak cloak
Lets encypt is eventually not going to be as trusted, because it can be automate...
I mean it's just for encryption, not for if the site is good or not
rocky badge
Most public certifications can be automated
peak cloak
https != good site
rocky badge
Digicert, AWS ACM, let's encrypt/acme
But most of them are pretty good about verification
thorny vector
Yeah, but most people see that https is on, and disregard other security practices. It's security theatre, and something malicious actors take advantage of
peak cloak
Yeah, but most people see that https is on, and disregard other security practic...
yep I get what you mean
thorny vector
It also means easy automation of encrypted C2 channels.
rocky badge
Whether it be dns or well known http
peak cloak
explaining it to my older familiy is hard
although one of my aunts doesn't trust online banking at all
rocky badge
https now just serves as encryption really doesn't mean it's safe
With it you know you know it's verified and nobody's snooping on your traffic assuming default Mozilla root CA store
thorny vector
You know this, and I know this. But people still see it as a sign of trust
rocky badge
yup
Because that's what the industry has told them for a while
See the green padlock, which is now just grey, or https
thorny vector
A Spanish root CA just got booted out of Chromes trusted certs for having an unregulated sub-CA, and too many malicious domains without an answer of how stuff happened.
thorny vector
What do you do when you see mcafee on a computer?
Burn it. Burn it with cleansing flames.
rocky badge
destroy that disk /s
peak cloak
what are some scanning protocol standards?
I'm setting up a linux scan server because that stupid scanner only has USB linux drivers
ik I can use SANE on linux over network, but what about windows?
thorny vector
🤷♂️
I just let windows handle all my printing and scanning. Don't feel like reinventing the wheel
thorny vector
Ah.
thick minnow
lol i just found a vulnerable sql injection on the skindex
thick minnow
Best free WiFi analizer for android?
I use WifiMan from Ubiquiti
its free and a good analyzer
dont have to have unifi stuff to use it
wise sedge
I use WifiMan from Ubiquiti
thanks, I will try that
thick minnow
@tame carbon Sorry for pinging you gain but I have another question, can a plex server, apart from initial installation and occasional maintenance, run without an internet connection and can I connect it to my non-smart tv via ethernet and run it?
wise sedge
oh wow, the signal strength graph actually works
tried 2 others out and they kinda just did not move and updated real slow
willow oracle
What would be the reason that i cannot connect to my main WIFI at home. But i can connect to others WIFIs with my Laptop. And i can use phone on that wifi, just my laptop doesnt want to connect.
tame carbon
@thick minnow that machine would just be like a regular computer on your network. You still need an internet connection to install and update packages
@peak cloak Yup. CUPSd + SANE
the go-to stack for multifunctional office printers
thick minnow
<@456226577798135808> that machine would just be like a regular computer on your...
Okay thanks, but the second part, can I run the server offline to my non-smart tv over ethernet?
tame carbon
@thick minnow You'll need a device for that
without a smart TV, you wont be able to stream directly
@thick minnow a cheap solution would be a raspberry pi with KODI installed on it
KODI has a plugin called PlexKodiConnect
allows KODI to stream from Plex
KODI was formerly called XBMC or "Xbox Media Center"
wise sedge
can wifi interferer with coax?
wise sedge
my internet comes form coax and my router is right next to it
clear igloo
not unless you've got like a few hundreds watts of power applied to the antenna 😛
thick minnow
can wifi interferer with coax?
any consumer wifi, no
flat yew
@flat yew hi guys
peak cloak
hi
lean pebble
What a wonderful surprise no 4G all day
thick minnow
if ive opened a port on my isp provided modem + router combo, if i get a new router, would i have to forward on that aswell?
peak cloak
if ive opened a port on my isp provided modem + router combo, if i get a new rou...
well if the ISP box doesn't have passthough mode then yes
this is called double NAT
hollow marlin
Hardware is so nice stacked, no Ciena but right up there looks wise
hollow marlin
At least I do not have to rack it. Just getting it ready for the sysadmins
waxen scroll
s-sysadmins? eeeeeeh
i used to work in a few datacenters so ive done so much racking and wiring I screen employers to make sure thats not my problem
its not sexy anymore
hollow marlin
Yep, enjoying it for the first few times but im good.
waxen scroll
i had an employer hang up on me once
desert briar
waxen scroll
was office depot. crappy company. dodged a bullet
They asked questions, I asked mine and then they were like "OK lets move on to the other part of the interview." [CLICK]
lmao
someone in that room was prob like hell no and hung it up
@desert briar its not that im old. I love money and you work less the more money you make. I'm not doing non-engineer work
desert briar
Yeah, I mean same. I work in security, this thing is a big passion of mine though. I'd kill to work with some current hardware for a bit
waxen scroll
and here @clear igloo is deep into his career and touches gear and wires constantly
sour saddle
looking for 10G switch with at least 10 ports but affordable, less than 650 USD
any suggestions ?
desert briar
@sour saddle SFP+? Or strict ethernet?
waxen scroll
@desert briar its basically like getting 100k and taking out the trash. You try to justify it.... hey im well paid trash man but over time the mental thoughts get to you and you get depressed
desert briar
brand new or refurbed?
waxen scroll
thats me and cables+racking
sour saddle
<@!291058093029326869> SFP+? Or strict ethernet?
doesn't matter SFP+ or ethernet
desert briar
sour saddle
new
desert briar
500USD
24 ports sfp+ and 2 40gbit ones. I have it myself. Just dont expect too much l3 functionality out of it, its a tik after all
desert briar
<@!252070801476419584> its basically like getting 100k and taking out the trash....
I mean I guess. Still, its just the fact of exploration. Ive never seen an actual data center
or anything aside old, refurbed hardware 😄
waxen scroll
datacenter teching can be a mental rollercoaster. You're doing tech stuff but you're also cleaning, taking out trash, working the dock when deliveries come in 3-4 times per day
are you in IT?
desert briar
I do pentesting, yeah
waxen scroll
the company has no colo?
desert briar
They do have an actual data center, but I havent managed to persuade anyone to let me in yet 😂
waxen scroll
oh. shame.
desert briar
- im an intern
so doing everything requires me to go through my team lead, then through his boss etc. etc.
waxen scroll
funnnnn
desert briar
I wanted a dev splunk license as its free and im elligible for it, but my request got lost somewhere in the corporate chain
waxen scroll
yeaaaaahhhh know that feel ;p
desert briar
Certain someone in this chat offered theirs, and im really grateful for that 😄
For now im just learning ELK
waxen scroll
current job is very locked down. if i wanted non-standard software its a whole ordeal, takes forever
desert briar
yeah, same. It is what it is
VMUG for the win 🙂
I learnt a tonne about vsphere and what not, these things are unusual for what I do. Having a server allowed me to make some cool active directory labs and what not
waxen scroll
i used to buy licenses and just use them at work but now in 2021 everyones auditing your software and you'll get caught
desert briar
def one of the best purchases I ever made
desert briar
i used to buy licenses and just use them at work but now in 2021 everyones audit...
yeah, rather safe than sorry
desert briar
tho it depends on who is doing the audits 😂
from security perspective, man in the middle is a bad idea often
or well, from the "stealth" perspective
waxen scroll
it reads everything i do and kills connections if it doesnt like whats being sent
not sure how its not a violation of the law, but whatever. i stopped doing personal anything
no emails, nothing
desert briar
I mean you cant even strip TLS nowadays, that attack wont work. To some extent it might but browsers will always alert the users at this point.
- a lot of browsers have hardcoded HSTS lists, so if you try to connect to facebook without https per say, browser wont even connect
Overall if you were to attack someone you share a network with, there are much better ways than doing mitm
waxen scroll
idk how it works. i know the proxy opens the actual connection and decrypts, then the encryption between me and the proxy is an in-house CA/cert
browser doesnt complain
desert briar
idk how it works. i know the proxy opens the actual connection and decrypts, the...
Ah, yeah well. You can do that if you install a certificate into the trusted cert store. That is different though. You install the cert in the PC, you can decrypt the traffic on the fly. As an attacker, you do not have that possibility.
rocky badge
Self
rocky badge
which is just a node API infront of S3
desert briar
Was thinking about hosting my own url shortener / something similar like what you have
dont really wanna code it myself, have way too many ongoing projects at this point
tame carbon
Can I provide myself 4G?
either femtocell, or bust. Broadcasting LTE signals requires a license
desert briar
Anything you can recommend for image hosting?
rocky badge
Depends on how you wanna do it
desert briar
Wanna do it blob style
rocky badge
You could either setup your own minio S3
Use DigitalOcean S3/AWS S3/Google Cloud Storage Buckets
Use a PHP/Python/Node uploader on a webserver
desert briar
How do you actually upload the image though? Have some self hosted front end for it? drag n drop, it gets uploaded?
rocky badge
ShareX
lean pebble
either femtocell, or bust. Broadcasting LTE signals requires a license
I don't have lte since today morning...
This stupid support guy insist not following my instructions of what to do for fix it.
I think I'll ignore him and just wait to tomorrow morning for the business support like always.
Fixing it in 1 sec
little schooner
datacenter teching can be a mental rollercoaster. You're doing tech stuff but yo...
I get drained easily having to install dual monitors setups when everything has a security lock and cable. Needs to be removed to plug in anything new under the cover of a Dell 3020M system. On top of that, need to bend forward just to work on the dang thing for long periods of time. Then, cable manage everything back in the 3020M, run other cables through the monitor hole and connect.
If the desks in the office had a way to go behind them, the job would be 3x easier. I hate doing the physical part of IT. I'm kinda weak for that stuff. The software side of things is my best ability.
Last time my coworker offered to take over the cart of PCs because he saw how I was struggling to push them lol
One ended up falling anyway, but I think those were PCs to be recycled
I'd like them to hire a student worker because they were doing this part of the job
waxen scroll
yes, you get it ❤️
wise sedge
I am trying to place my router at the best spot. would better signal be more stable speed?
peak cloak
yep
wise sedge
because I was getting ~80mbps at a lower signal spot than a better spot
like from 80 to 1 or even nothing
but signal is great
it can even say signal great, no internet
I dont know what is going on
lone fossil
hey guys
i have a question about webserver/ or just servers in general
basically, let's take the hosting as a service scheme
companies like digitalocean offer a variety of options when it comes to chosing hardware
but when it boils down to the low level stuff, i can assume it's just a virtual machine using a hypervisor ~ please correct me if i am wrong
my question is how they handle assigning IPs to each one of these virtual machines/ droplets
peak cloak
but when it boils down to the low level stuff, i can assume it's just a virtual ...
yep, although the actual specs matter in a VM. A vcpu from one specific cpu can be better/worse compared to another cpu
you can also buy bare metal servers
peak cloak
my question is how they handle assigning IPs to each one of these virtual machin...
virtual routers
lone fossil
Could you shine some light on them for me?
peak cloak
idk exactly how and the specifics since I don't work for a DC
peak cloak
Could you shine some light on them for me?
https://vyos.io/ for example
lone fossil
so it's virtual router huh
but i thought routers could only manage ipv4 and ipv6
i guess it's a special case
peak cloak
wdym manage?
@hollow marlin know much more about this, maybe he could answer if he's online
routers route
lone fossil
well, i'm used to the idea of a router sitting in between my PCs and internet
i get only 1 Ip
but the router hands out IPV4/6 to all of my local devices
peak cloak
well that's your router's DHCP server that is handing out ips
and for ipv6, router-advert
lone fossil
right
peak cloak
but a router itself all it does it router between subnets
no DHCP
no router-advert
no DNS
lone fossil
hum
so router-advert is specifically for IPv6?
Sorry if i am getting this wrong, i haven't heard of it before
peak cloak
so router-advert is specifically for IPv6?
router-advert is SLAAC, there is also DHCPv6 but it's not advised
basically the PC itself decides on what ip to get
android for some complicated reason does not support DHCPv6
lone fossil
i see
peak cloak
yeah, but you understand the concept or no?
lone fossil
I've just heard the term, never actually looked over what it means or how it works
i just saw a video online
peak cloak
Ok so in the beginning of the internet each device on the internet got their own public IP address. However as ipv4 addresses started to run dry NAT was used a solution. Basically each home would only get 1 public IP (nowadays some even don't get a public address) and that one address is NATed so a private ip range like 192.168.1.1/24. This way many devices can share one public IP. However this breaks the point to point concept of the internet because a device outside cannot start a connection to a device behind NAT without port forwarding. In ipv6 there are many more addresses so each household should get at least a /64 block which is ALOT of addresses and the smallest publically routable prefix. Most ISPs give out at least a /56 so you can subnet within your housenet. Now each device gets their own public IP
And the device gets their IP with SLAAC by asking the router for the prefix and generating the rest of the IP themselves
So for example I get this: 2001:470:___:111::/64 (ommited one octet for privacy)
my router's IP is 2001:470:___:111::1/64
and the router advertises this whole block to my LAN 2001:470:___:111::/64
So a device on my LAN could have the ip of 2001:470:____:111:123:456:789:111
And it's a public IP
in ipv4 lets say get this IP 123.456.789.111
My router NATs this one IP to a 192.168.1.1/24 network
so a device may have an IP of 192.168.1.38
But this address is not a public address, in order to lets say access a webserver on it, the router would have to port forward port 80 on the WAN interface to 192.168.1.38
And people would access the websever via the public IP, not the actual IP of the device behind NAT
lone fossil
ah yes
it's port forwarding
an incoming data transmission is port forwarded to a specific port on a specific device on the local network
if available ofc.
peak cloak
yeah, all other connections need to be initiated by the device behind NAT and the router holds a connection NAT table
rocky badge
@clear igloo Wireguard stronkkkk https://blob.rocks/osmQTAiZjZ.png
Its maxing my upload
rocky badge
wayyyy better than ipsec
lone fossil
yeah, all other connections need to be initiated by the device behind NAT and th...
Thanks for the mini lecture
i'll be sure to look this stuff up and understand it fully
peak cloak
ipv6 takes a while to understand
you have to think a lot differently than what you are used to
lone fossil
Yes, i agree, it's still quite vague
waxen scroll
autumn bay
rare matrix
@peak cloak that was a good writeup
peak cloak
thanks, I'm getting better at explaining
peak cloak
Can i ask a wifi problem here? Pleade
yeah this is networking
limpid oracle
Ooook
Could i possibly ask a sorta tech related question? I’m having a problem with my drivers on my laptop and for some reason also cant update my laptop either?
Maybe both problems are connected but its not there 😦
thick minnow
Dose anyone want to help me create a video sharing service we are doing this because of YouTube taking down the coco distrack we decided that we want to create a platform not riddled with over censorship this will not only help creators make more content but also make more money we will only take 20% and the will be no sub threshold for ads if you you can dm me if you want to help
thorny vector
Do you understand the amount of capital, connections, and knowledge it takes to build something like that?
There's a reason why youtube remains king
rocky badge
God a video platform has a lot of parts to it
Video ingest, video playback, video storage, community interaction
Live ingest, rtmp routing and streaming
Analytics and recommendations, content reporting, etc...
rare matrix
i think that falls under promotion
its obviously political too rather than about actual networking so its off topic at best
bless you both for attacking the engineering aspect immediately though lol
static knoll
Dose anyone want to help me create a video sharing service we are doing this bec...
Isn't this essentially floatplane kinda?
hollow marlin
First they want to make a streaming service, then a game then a video service all in a few days 
thick minnow
Isn't this essentially floatplane kinda?
Yeah kinda
static knoll
Honestly you need hundreds of thousands of dollars in hardware and infrastructure for that
It's not easy
Nor may it be legal
thick minnow
First they want to make a streaming service, then a game then a video service al...
I’m using the base of my streaming service to make it easier to start and I’m doing this because YouTube removed the coco distrack
thick minnow
Nor may it be legal
Wdym
thick minnow
My studio that is making it is trademarked in Japan
But I have the licenseing to do business in the states
static knoll
Hmm, I guess go for it then
Doesn't hurt to try
You'll have to heavily advertise though
And also be good at development
thick minnow
Well the devolopment part is the problem we are only two people we can’t do that much
static knoll
Well the devolopment part is the problem we are only two people we can’t do that...
Clubhouse started with 2 people, but then again they are good at developing
waxen saddle
My advice? Do something, even if it is one thing, truly unique. “We are better because we have a video another service took down and we have greater profit margins” isn’t very compelling in my mind because that’s what all the YouTube competitors are doing.
For example. LTT does NOT make videos. Sure they do, but that’s not what they DO. They make a story. You know, the stuff that has held captive hundreds of generations of people for thousands of years? That’s what LTT DOES. They focus on story first.
waxen saddle
So sure, you can make yet another video hosting service, but unless you set your sights on something the competitors aren’t doing, you’ll drown in the noise.
What is APAC?
paper valve
Asia pacific
static knoll
School WiFi in the morning (6 devices) and then 569 devices
I mean that is how it works
ruby bramble
Yea ik
static knoll
In my opinion schools should have 1Gbps
They can clearly afford it
(assuming its a private school)
static knoll
Yeah they can afford gigabit
ruby bramble
Yea
obtuse oxide
does this look like an alright server config for high avaliability? for a case study
desert briar
Debatable. If you want maximum uptime Id change some things. Possibly 2 power supplies and 2 network cards
if either fails you have a failover
I dont like using software raid, but thats just my bias
obtuse oxide
ty for that, case study wants a server cluster, do i just make 2 servers? or cloud @desert briar
desert briar
I mean, you can cluster with 1 server. You install a hypervisor and at that point make many smaller VMs which work in a cluster (for example kubernetes)
The more servers the merrier though
depending on what you use having multiple servers allows you to migrate live VMs, load balance the traffic etc.
With one server you can "simulate" HA, however if you need to do a maintenance on the server itself (update the hypervisor, bios, etc.) there will be downtime
obtuse oxide
cool
im quite new to it all
im guessing having an active and passive server with shared storage is just easier but costs more money?
desert briar
the whole idea of clustering is that its better to have 4 tiny servers (which together compare to a power of 1 big server) compared to just 1 big server
Or have 4 big servers if you can afford it 😆
desert briar
im guessing having an active and passive server with shared storage is just easi...
Mind elaborating?
obtuse oxide
like having 2 servers that share the same data, if 1 of them goes down the other one takes its place
desert briar
Yeah, you can definitely do that :). Its a common approach for HA in fact. If you use VSphere you have a technology called DRS - https://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/drs-dpm.html . It can take care of VMs if one host goes offline, needs to be updated and so forth.
If by having same data you are referring to shared storage
obtuse oxide
Yea
desert briar
You can do clustering on more or less anything, even a Pi
This is a pretty nice video too, as to why clustering is a thing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyJTcdfR1E&ab_channel=MichaelKlements
of course, the use case depends on what you need to do 😄
obtuse oxide
Right
peak cloak
In my opinion schools should have 1Gbps
They do
Just split over hundreds of devices
Hell my school district is technically an isp
mossy bloom
So just wanted a second opinion, just been told by engineer that came out, that my powerline adapter is the cause of all of our internet issues (dropping out everywhere, etc) and that we should switch to pure wifi or proper ethernet. Is that actually right, i cant imagine it causing complete drop-outs and low speeds for our wifi as well
Also dont really wanna be having to buy a wifi card, seeing as proper ethernet isnt an option
hollow marlin
And how do you know?
static knoll
End device bandwidth != the bandwidth the school itself gets
What?
hollow marlin
What?
Just because you are not getting gig over wireless does not mean the school does not have a gig connection
static knoll
Just because you are not getting gig over wireless does not mean the school does...
its not that, i've tested ethernet and it was only like 100
peak cloak
even ethernet, it's throttled
hollow marlin
Just split over hundreds of devices
We provide circuits to almost half the schools in the state. All are minimum of a gig. Chromebooks, phones, streaming presentations, etc. basically require schools to have a gig at bare minimum or they cannot function in todays world
peak cloak
yeah
hollow marlin
its not that, i've tested ethernet and it was only like 100
Why would they allow a single student to consume most the bandwidth? Each devices is throttled on purpose
peak cloak
when you have 1000 mbps / 400 devices that leaves 2.5 mbps per device assuming each one was maxing out the connection
that's an unrealistic scenerio but still
minor girder
Errrrr dunno
peak cloak
RAID, ZFS, BTRFS?
peak cloak
idk much about storage but I think RAID doesn't like different sizes drives
minor girder
Ah ok so they should ideally be the same size
peak cloak
yeah
minor girder
Sweet, ok, having soem trouble with setting up a lan
You got a tutorial by any chance?
minor girder
Yeah I'm trying to use a mobile hotspot for my WiFi router, and have everything connect to it
Is that even possible?
peak cloak
Is that even possible?
so use a mobile hotspot as your internet source?
minor girder
Every time I configure the WiFi to connect to my hotspot the ip changes, then nothing connects to it?
@peak cloak EXACTLY THAT
💯
thick minnow
what devices do you use
minor girder
Samsung note 9
thick minnow
and how do you want to connect wifi to a phone
peak cloak
<@222482269829332992> EXACTLY THAT
idk if a phone would support it. How are you connecting it to the router now?
minor girder
I've done so.e research and it might have something to do with dhcp
Or a server setting idk
coarse storm
i’m moving soon and the internet is 500mbps for $60 a month and 1 gbps for 80 a month? is it worth getting the full gig? these are my current speeds so anything will be an upgrade
peak cloak
I know things like some mikrotik have a USB port that you can plug a 4G dongle in and use the mobile data
thick minnow
@minor girder get a 4g router and put your sim in that
minor girder
Hmmm, I can connect via wifi
peak cloak
Hmmm, I can connect via wifi
how are you connecting the phone to the router
thick minnow
<@456226577798135808> that means I can't use my phone lol
you cant connect an acces point to your 4g from your phone
minor girder
Essentially I'm using mobile hotspit thingy
So essentially my unlimited data to a router then to all my devices like a switch
Is that even possible?
minor girder
Trust me
peak cloak
So essentially my unlimited data to a router then to all my devices like a switc...
it's possible, but much easier with a 4g modem
thick minnow
yeah ^
thick minnow
thats not that much
peak cloak
I use terabytes a month
minor girder
Its just tv Spotify and xbox
I work alot 🤣
Would be nice to just come home wack my hotspit on then... boom everything on the WiFi
*bangs head on desk
Is it something like port forwarding or something?
thick minnow
but you cant connect your router or acces point to your phone to extent the signal
minor girder
Hmmmm
peak cloak
but you cant connect your router or acces point to your phone to extent the sign...
maybe you could connect via USB?
minor girder
🤔
thick minnow
phones arent made for that
peak cloak
much easier to just get a 4g modem
minor girder
Can I ask what seems to be a dumb question?
minor girder
@peak cloak it has a sim card slot but I use the phone itself
cursive jasper
i’m moving soon and the internet is 500mbps for $60 a month and 1 gbps for 80 a ...
If you're using WiFi primarily, probably not. It's difficult to get speeds over 4 or 500 megabit over Wi-Fi... Might get there with WiFi 6, but not many devices support it.
minor girder
Does the ip addresses of my devices have to match the ip of my phone
thick minnow
Does the ip addresses of my devices have to match the ip of my phone
that isnt even possible
peak cloak
you don't want it to
minor girder
Ok
thick minnow
it wont work
peak cloak
that would cause IP conflicts, very bad
minor girder
Ok
thick minnow
local ip adres 1 per device never the same
peak cloak
think of IPs are physical street addresses
minor girder
So say for example my ip address on my phone is 192.168.1.0
peak cloak
you can't have the same house number on the same street
minor girder
My devices would be totally different right?