networking

[jaunty talon]

This is OK copy speed to my workstation from our NAS at work :D

[unborn sluice]

[dim rover]

so tl;dr
im safe

i think

whitelisting would be a pain for them.. i hope

[old quarry]

anyone wanna watch with me bread p0rn

[desert briar]

A bit offtopic and "old", but could be an interesting read if someone takes interest in this topic:
https://norfolkinfosec.com/dprk-malware-targeting-security-researchers/
https://blog.google/threat-analysis-group/new-campaign-targeting-security-researchers/

[unborn sluice]

not really

[dim rover]

@unborn sluice i think they'd struggle a bit

for reference they had a wireless printer at work for months and none has figured out how to print wirelessly

[unborn sluice]

They should probably use AD for wifi auth

my school does that

the last policy was, 1device/student

[unborn sluice]

So they paid for a feature they didn't use

[peak cloak]

to be fair, printers are a pain

[dim rover]

they couldnt

[unborn sluice]

I don't know much about printer security

but consumer wireless printers should be fine

I dunno about the "enterprise" printers where there's more control about when to print

our old office printer ,I think have AD or something

[little schooner]

@peak cloak the printers my school went with is cloud connected and they can print from any room. The only times that it gives us trouble is when everyone goes on vacation. The printer goes on vacation too because it stops collecting print jobs when everyone returns. A reboot fixed the issue in 8 scenarios, with the last printer having DNS issues

Now I love the printers. But the old school way of doing them, no.

[peak cloak]

cloud connected printer just seems, eh

[little schooner]

it works with local ad too. But if staff wants to put print jobs from home to then print, they can

I don't think anyone used the cloud feature of it yet

It uses Id cards for print access or direct login with osk

I like it so far and deployment was easier than expected

I only had to push the printer connection and driver to all the pcs

3 lines in script. Very fast

[peak cloak]

ah

I have 2 printers at home, 1 is just a pain as it's a cheap inkjet that probably costs more to make then what it was sold for

The other one is an HP LaserJet P2055dn that my dad got from work and it's pretty nice and simple

[hot acorn]

I saw this the other day, very interesting! Thanks for sharing, hopefully others will find it interesting. Goes to show how effective social engineering can be, even when used against people who's career is focused on security.

[desert briar]

Well, effective or not... That's debatable. I would consider the Visual Studio solution attack as a "standard" phishing example. You trick someone into running your malicious binary and what not

The second stage though, that chrome zero-day (or n-day, whatever people call it)

Yeah, that's kind of un-preventable . Getting popped just by visiting a webpage. Can't do much to combat that.

[rich oracle]

I am running OVPN on my vps in Toronto for past 6 months, whole family uses it, extreamly usefull since most of the sites are blocked for me.

But i am running pihole on my localnetwork, and to be exact 2 piholes, i am now thinking that i should install pihole on that server running the vpn service. Anyone got something i should reference by doing so, also i will be reinstalling the whole server with a fresh image, since i want to move from debian to ubuntu. So if there is a ground up tutorial i would like to know.

I had a class on uni regarding networking and debian so i mostly know what i am doing

[unborn sluice]

but why would you want pihole on the vpn server

[rich oracle]

simply bc i dont want ads?

i know how to do it manualy

but explaing it to others who are not techincal enough is a hussle i dont want

and i want to have pi hole on the go too

[peak cloak]

should be simple

install pihole locally then ovpn

set that as ovpn's dns server

[tame carbon]

updated like 50 factorio mods, in a couple seconds https://i.imgur.com/CR06Tpi.png

[lean pebble]

Your network card is overloaded

[obsidian token]

Umh no

[peak cloak]

so?

that's a local reserved ip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_IP_addresses

[keen hamlet]

I need some of that bandwidth

where is that from? USA?

[peak cloak]

netherlands

[peak cloak]

I'm in the US and have 300/300

[thick minnow]

alright, setting up freenas and so far i only have 1 question, how do i get to the dashboard? does it just show up when i enter the static ip?

[peak cloak]

yeah go to the ip

[thick minnow]

thank you

[peak cloak]

I forgot if it's default http port or a different one

[thick minnow]

i havnt gotten that far yet, just a part of the video that didnt make sense/wasnt explained

trying to turn a retired laptop into a NAS because the USB ports on my routers are slow

[peak cloak]

yeah freenas, now called truenas is pretty nice. It uses ZFS as a filesystem which is really good.

[thick minnow]

and its taking forever for the install drive to load, so the anxiety begins

[thick minnow]

guess ima try truenas then cuz it aint booting

or somehow find an older version of freenas

[peak cloak]

wdym it's not booting

how old is the system?

because it should have at least support for uefi

[thick minnow]

omg wait, uefi might not be enabled

core i7 640M, 6GB ram, etc, its on the old side of things but not like the worst thing ever

no dice

enabled the uefi thing in the boot options, same deal

maybe if i burn a DVD

@peak cloak didnt workon dvd, however, something actually came up this time

[peak cloak]

yeah usb should work

you were able to access the usb installer?

[thick minnow]

Gets stuck like this

[peak cloak]

hmm idk

[thick minnow]

Progress made, with uefi enabled, and just letting it do its own thing instead of going into boot options, it loaded

[peak cloak]

yeah

now I think the usb actually booted from uefi

[thick minnow]

It did

Till i think it froze here

Drive light turns off and curser stops blinking

Same on dvd

[peak cloak]

maybe run a memtest?

do other OS's work?

[thick minnow]

Yes they do

[unborn sluice]

Nice

[sweet flame]

FreeNAS has an 8 gb memory minumum

[thick minnow]

and thats hard coded?

[sweet flame]

not sure thyats just what they list for hardware requirements

It says These specifications are the bare minimum requirements to run a small FreeNAS system with baseline performance for 1-4 users.. So it might boot off that but just have bad performance. im not sure ive never tried to install freenas on anything with that low amount of memory before.

[raw belfry]

Hi all, does someone has a solution for the slow downloadspeed of MSFS?

Hope this is the correct channel.

[sweet flame]

Flight sim?

[raw belfry]

Indeed

[sweet flame]

Whats your internet speed

[raw belfry]

300Mbit/s

[sweet flame]

What speed is it downloading at

[raw belfry]

25Mbit 😒

[sweet flame]

Is it megabytes or megabits per second

[raw belfry]

bits

[sweet flame]

damn thats potato speed

[raw belfry]

Lol, it is

[sweet flame]

Can you get 300mbps on the computer you are on?

[raw belfry]

270-280 real life

[sweet flame]

How fast are file transfers on that disk

[raw belfry]

its on a NVMe evo 970

should be fast enough right?

[sweet flame]

LOl so thats njot your ptoblem. Theres a download tab in the steam client settings panel

[raw belfry]

Downloading it from MS it self

[sweet flame]

There should be a download limit speed there

oh damn

[raw belfry]

Hahaha, that explains alot

[sweet flame]

does anything else download this slow

might be a limit on the server youire downloading from

[raw belfry]

Via steam for example, everything goes fast

[dry shoal]

Like from the browser? Usually browser show MB/s, not Mb/s

[sweet flame]

Yeah because 25 MB/s is pretty good on a 300 mbps connection

[raw belfry]

From in game. Atleast the startup part if you know what i mean

25Mb

[peak cloak]

I ran it on 2gb

[raw belfry]

not MB

[sweet flame]

So thats not the problem with that

[sweet flame]

junk

[peak cloak]

could be your cpu bottleneck from uppacking files?

the msfs installer sucks

[raw belfry]

r9 3900x... Don't think thats a bottleneck

[peak cloak]

I didn't buy the game, but I was in the beta program. I really like flight sims. It was alright, but it's way too buggy

[peak cloak]

check task manager

[sweet flame]

are you trying uefi or bios for the freenas

[sweet flame]

Are you on 100 megabit ethernet?

nah theres no way lol

[raw belfry]

1000mbit LAN

[sweet flame]

Do you know download server location

[raw belfry]

No I don't. Know how the figure that out?

to*

[sweet flame]

Well i have a pretty good router with packet logging so i just see what IP its coming from and look it up

good chance its proxied though

You can do the same thing with netstat

[raw belfry]

Can you guide me a bit please?

[sweet flame]

Looks like an external issue to me... Slow proxy, overseas connection, downoad throttling sum like that

[raw belfry]

So out of my reach?

[sweet flame]

yeah open up your command prompt and ping the download url see what comes up

[raw belfry]

But how do I know the download url

[sweet flame]

Oh yeah thats an integrated thing isnt it

[raw belfry]

guess so

[sweet flame]

I mean you could try netstat but theres alot of shit in there

[thick minnow]

chucked 8GB of ram in, no dice, might have to try my other hp elite book

[raw belfry]

Not that much, have a look

[sweet flame]

I ususally just use my router lol, maybe netstat | find "ESTABLISHED"

[sweet flame]

Also are you using uefi or bios boot @thick minnow

yeah thats just too much shit

[thick minnow]

uefi

[sweet flame]

try bios

[thick minnow]

it wouldnt load at all

[sweet flame]

oh damn tf

[thick minnow]

ikr

[raw belfry]

?

[sweet flame]

latest mobo formware?

[thick minnow]

should be

[sweet flame]

nah talking to sdm

[raw belfry]

srry

[sweet flame]

shit im guessing youve already checked forums

Use new boot device with fresh install?

[thick minnow]

working on it soon

[sweet flame]

yeah @raw belfry you might have to let it sit for a little while lol

[peak cloak]

I ran it (truenas) on an ancient core 2 duo computer with 2 gb ram

not very well, but it worked

so specs shouldn't be an issue

I was just experimenting

[raw belfry]

Yea I was afraid for it. Nothing we can do. I do appreciate your time and effort. Thanks

[sweet flame]

Lol no problem

That thing has a mobile i7 in it right

What are youy trying to install it on

[thick minnow]

to ANYTHING, it freezes at the image above^

same thing for 8GB of ram

[sweet flame]

Like you arent trying on a laptop right

[thick minnow]

doesmt matter if the desire boot flash drive or HDD is in or out, same thing

i am

[sweet flame]

That might not be a good idea

[thick minnow]

so far i agree lol

[sweet flame]

If you are planning on usb drives

[thick minnow]

true nas aint working either

[sweet flame]

get ready for data loss

you would me soo much better off with a $150 ebay server with a butt load od ECC

[thick minnow]

the flash drive would just be to boot freenas, the internal HDD would be the NAS storage

just like how many many poeple set it up

[sweet flame]

I wish i knew more about freenas on weird hardware lol i havent ever installed it on anything but enterprise hardware

[thick minnow]

fair enough

[sweet flame]

Idk how much you can spend (well if you are tryna user a laptop probably no much) but keep your eye out for some deals on there

[peak cloak]

not really, those old servers are power hungry

and loud

[sweet flame]

Yeah that can be true lol

Try an old optiplex or something

[peak cloak]

I use an optiplex as a server

nice machines

[sweet flame]

yeah theyre reliable, cheap quiet easy to find

Expandable

[thick minnow]

i wish i has one, i do have a server machine but its hosting 2 minecraft server and folding at home so its very busy, and doesnt have the power for a VM aswell

well, an old HP prebuilt

that i turned into a "server machine"

[sweet flame]

My hypervisor is pretty full too lol

[peak cloak]

yeah, anything can be a server

[sweet flame]

its all fun and games until you run out of cores

[peak cloak]

I host a MC server for my friends, it's pretty dead now

I may call it quits one day

[sweet flame]

I have a bungee server going for a few people on this dicsord for some youtuber lol

[thick minnow]

it has a core i7 2600s so 4 power efficient cores with 8 threads, its doing decent for what im throwing at it

[sweet flame]

takes alot of resources

[peak cloak]

so I can focus on experimenting with my own things

[sweet flame]

yeah having your homelab resources taken up by a block game sucks

[peak cloak]

currently working on a competition project

[sweet flame]

At least yoiu arent paying for hosting

[thick minnow]

^ thats why i did it, had the parts laying around

granted i have upgrade it from 1 crappy HDD and 8GB of ram and a USB wireless adapter, to an ssd, decent HDD, 16GB of ram and a PCIE wifi card (the router is on the other side of the house and we dont have Ethernet jacks in our house, and i dont feeling like going into my dads office everytime i wanna mess with it/when remote access mess' up, dont even bring it up lol)

[sweet flame]

Wifi??

Rip lol

[thick minnow]

ik

it sucks

[sweet flame]

Right after i learend what wired internet was i put like 15 drops in my parents house

I hate wifi with a passion

[thick minnow]

got my own private ethernet setup between my computers though

i wish i could do that

damn double wide trailer home

[sweet flame]

Oh shit just get some outdoor rated and run it underneath

Trailers are easy to wire

[thick minnow]

they wont let me

[sweet flame]

Bruh

Do it in secret

sn sn bad idea

[thick minnow]

lol

[sweet flame]

Not even one wire?

[stone kite]

Wifi? What's wifi? XD

[thick minnow]

nope

[sweet flame]

For real

[thick minnow]

i did get a wifi 6 card though so that helped a bit

[stone kite]

Is wifi that boomer technology that lags all the time? Lol

[thick minnow]

y e s

[stone kite]

Lamo

[sweet flame]

Parents: Is the internet down?

Me on my wired connection:

[thick minnow]

i have even thought about trying to get Ethernet to go thought the old phone lines

but that might be slower than what im getting now

plus i dont have an rj11 jack in my room

[sweet flame]

If its not 4 pair will be slower

But at the same time more reliable

[stone kite]

I think it was in the drake and Josh movie, someone asked about wifi on the plane and the stewardess responded "we don't have wifi but we have wireless internet".

Still holds up as a good joke

[thick minnow]

that was on victorious

but i know what you mean

[stone kite]

Classic!

[sweet flame]

So anybody here do networking as a job?

need help with a cisco sg300

[stone kite]

One end goes in the router and the other goes in the computer. XD

I'm just being silly. What you need help with?

[sweet flame]

So i have a pfsense box and i paid for all 6 ports so i wann ause all 6 ports

So i want a ling aggregation with vlans going over it for all my interfaces

I can get a link agg show active state, but i cant get any traffic over it with my current vlan setup

How should i get them to communicate? i bever figured out how to make these fucks communicate with vlans

[stone kite]

I was hoping it was something simple. Idk anything about pfsense.

[thick minnow]

i should read this chat more often, this stuff interests me so much however i also feel so dumb reading all the words i half understand

[sweet flame]

Lol well if i can figure it out quick with google i wouldnt be asking here

[peak cloak]

what are you googling?

maybe wrong search terms

[stone kite]

Google is useless when it comes to specific stuff.

[peak cloak]

well depends

[sweet flame]

yeah it really is

[peak cloak]

you need to know what to google

[sweet flame]

sg300 vlans with pfsense, pfsense vlans, etc

[peak cloak]

what's the OS cisco uses?

[sweet flame]

idk big stupid webui cusco switch OS version 10000000

let me look

[stone kite]

I at one point wanted documentation to see if I could run a dusl shock 2 controller over ethernet as an extension and all the results gave me were usb to ethernet dongles.

[thick minnow]

if anyone has an older freenas ISO file please DM so so i have give you my email so you can send it to me, that would be wonderful

[sweet flame]

Lol i can get vlans working fine on the switch but i havent ever gottn anything working on pfsense

[stone kite]

So I ordered a stock ps2 controller extender, busted open the end and connected the wires myself. Turns out you CAN run DS2 over ethernet

It has a ton of issues tho

[sweet flame]

Lmao

[stone kite]

I successfully played a level on socom II on real hardware using an ethernet extended controller. It was glorious

[peak cloak]

yeah pfsense is very webui based, kinda don't like it

[sweet flame]

Well pfsense works pretty good for me. Ive cinsidered VyOS but im a total noob and i have servers running behind it that people access to downtime is kina important

The web UI works pretty good if youre a noob

[peak cloak]

yeah

I used vyos as an edgerouter for my server

in a vm

[sweet flame]

Oof how did that go

[peak cloak]

was experimenting with kubernetes

pretty good

vyos is very similar to edgemax

[sweet flame]

I heard router OS virtualized can get buggy

[peak cloak]

vyos is pretty good for being virtuialized

[sweet flame]

Does it have virtualization support?

thats kinda mint

[peak cloak]

https://vyos.io/solutions/

a lot

[sweet flame]

shit that might be something imma mess around with then

Since my switch is layer 3 i could just vlan everything and say bye to the dedicated router

[peak cloak]

vyos is more of a router, pfsense is really more of a firewall

[primal ice]

on the pfsense box/vm make sure you have firewall rules for the vlans / ports.

[sweet flame]

yeah it doesnt even grab an IP but yeah i tried that

[peak cloak]

don't you still need one for NAT

[sweet flame]

oh maybe lol

still gonna mess around with it

[peak cloak]

L3 switches are more for moving from vlan to vlan

without traffic having to go back to the router and congesting that switch <-> router link

[sweet flame]

Oh shit thats large brain

I should take a networking class lol

My solution to that was more bandwidth to the router. But shit i cant even get lagg working right

[primal ice]

what I did on my pfsense box because I didn't want to mess with vlans or port firewall rules was bridge all the ports together and have all the traffic on the bridge.

[sweet flame]

My $1000 switch i got for free sitting here in l2 mode begging for something to do

I might try that

[primal ice]

still have to set up a basic pass all firewall rule on each port though otherwise it defaults to deny all if no rules are set up.

thats the bridge but lan opt1-7 have the same rule. opt8 is my gif ipv6 tunnel.

[rocky badge]

pls name your interfaces

[primal ice]

they are - default .

[rocky badge]

yeah, pls name them 😂

https://blob.rocks/x44XwUJZgE.png

[lean pebble]

Too much vlans

Pfsense?

[peak cloak]

yeah

[lean pebble]

Ya I noticed from the style of the page

😄

Any js ppl here?

[rocky badge]

too many vlans

never too many vlans

[lean pebble]

Lol

Too many but you need more

[peak cloak]

kinda

why?

actually doing js rn

[lean pebble]

You're missing some numbers @rocky badge

[rocky badge]

?

[lean pebble]

I'm looking for a fast and efficient way to create login and register pages.
I thought about using nodejs to it @PresentMonkey#8352

[peak cloak]

lol, that's just what I'm working on

[lean pebble]

Vlan numbers

Huh lol

[rocky badge]

What? lol

[lean pebble]

I need it for my studies project

[peak cloak]

kinda, I's pretty bad, but it will never be true prod, just for a competition project

using mongodb as packend and passport.js

[lean pebble]

You got vlan666/200/10 and so on.

[rocky badge]

and?

[lean pebble]

You missed 1 to 666

You need more vlans

😆

[rocky badge]

you don't need to go incrementally

[peak cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/623265423533801483/804137991698251776/Peek_2021-01-27_18-56.gif

this is what I have rn

it's really bad

[rocky badge]

And I have 10, 20, 30, 40, 200, 666

[peak cloak]

it's the first time doing something like this

[lean pebble]

Haha I'm joking man

Good job present

[peak cloak]

I found one really big flaw in how I present the index.ejs, but eh I don't care that much to fix it

it's not like it will ever be public

[lean pebble]

I wish I could copy my login and register pages from my python site

To html js and css project

[peak cloak]

I'm not bothering about looks rn

just want it to work first

[lean pebble]

Winning the contention - going production as winning project

Oh shit I need to fix it

[lean pebble]

Ya I agree less important right now

First step make it work

Then break it with styling

And fix again

[peak cloak]

it's more about the hardware

basically

we are using an arduino connected to the browser via WebUSB which will then be connected to the server via socket.io. The basis of this idea is that teachers would be able to give rewards to students over the internet by operating basically a mini "vending" machine. So the teacher can click on "give reward to <student>" and it will dispense the reward to the student with the machine on his desk

@lean pebble

kinda dumb idea

but lots of these design competitions are won with kinda dumb ideas

I'm doing web software

another kid is doing arduino software

another is doing the actual physical design

tbh I'm the only one who knows how to code descently

the one doing arduino will just put everything in one file with no organization or documentation

[frigid prism]

Does anyone know What could be worng

So my wifi is Down at Home and it is a bit of problem when my Hole Family is sendt Home

We have tryed the normal things like reststarting the routers (we have a mest setup) and we have tryed restarting the modoem but nothing works

[solemn nymph]

maybe it's a problem with your ISP

call your ISP

[frigid prism]

Well we are getting a new provider new mouth but we should still get wifi for the rest of this mouth

[frigid prism]

Figured it out

[lean pebble]

Nice good luck man :)

[thick minnow]

im looking for an Ethernet over coaxial adaptor. Any one know any good ones? I dont want it to be expensive either

[tame carbon]

https://i.imgur.com/AEXIkSn.png

gah. its 28th, wheres me update :/

@thick minnow MoCA is rather expensive

but it is one standard for coaxial data

[tame carbon]

https://blog.qualys.com/vulnerabilities-research/2021/01/26/cve-2021-3156-heap-based-buffer-overflow-in-sudo-baron-samedit

https://www.zdnet.com/article/10-years-old-sudo-bug-lets-linux-users-gain-root-level-access/

patch your devices people

if you use sudo, you have to patch.

even if just installed, its a free rootkit for anyone

https://i.imgur.com/Z4jdEaX.png

[peak cloak]

oof

my router probobly doesn't have a patch

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak not every device has sudo

debian by default doesnt include it

[peak cloak]

let me check

[peak cloak]

nope, ubiquiti added sudo

unless I did once when I was a noob

idk

[tame carbon]

yeah well they need patching

[peak cloak]

https://www.armis.com/resources/iot-security-blog/nat-slipstreaming-v2-0-new-attack-variant-can-expose-all-internal-network-devices-to-the-internet

[hollow marlin]

allow attackers to reach any device within the internal network and simply requires a victim to click on a malicious link.
Meh, its just pinholing the FW and creating a NAT translation.

I don't consider this an attack, its not uncommon for some to send bogus keepalives to keep the pinhole open in some NAT scenarios

[unborn sluice]

it's not uncommon for someone to try find devices inside the network? (in this context)

[thick minnow]

yo guys i want a nas for 5 2.5inch hard drives which is so cheap it might set on fire

[peak cloak]

just get an older computer

[thick minnow]

how do i use it as a nas

[little schooner]

Our vendor is setting the college on fire with their test-on-production rollouts

[thick minnow]

also is there some way i can mount these hard drives so that they dont catch on fire

[little schooner]

Hard drives don't catch fire

[thick minnow]

i currently have a stack on top of a water cooler blowing hot air at them.

oh ok thats fine then

[peak cloak]

anysort of server

freenas is nice

[thick minnow]

will doing that allow me to do:

download torrents from my main computer, download the files onto the nas (seed from that freenas computer), and play the files from that nas on a 3rd computer.

[hollow marlin]

I am just saying that this attack is really not that advanced. Have someone click a link, code runs some ARP to find devices, sends a fake packet with the MAC/IP of the device in question, boom, pinhole. I do the same with ostinato in my lab all the time.

[thick minnow]

are hackers even a thing?

[little schooner]

Yes

[thick minnow]

ive turned firewall off for years now and no antivirus

[little schooner]

Your not a big target for hackers

[thick minnow]

maybe i should get some sort of security if i get a nas

good point

[hollow marlin]

FW in your PC or router?

[little schooner]

My "NAS" is server 2016 with smb and nfs enabled

[thick minnow]

everywhere

it was messing with ports with astroneer a few years ago so i just clicked off on every single security related thing everywhere

[peak cloak]

why tho

[thick minnow]

idk ive never had a virus or been hacked

[little schooner]

That doesn't mean you go and turn everything off

[hollow marlin]

Turning off your FW in your router is asking for trouble

[thick minnow]

why tho whos gonna try hack me

[peak cloak]

how do you know

[thick minnow]

i mean i seed a lot

maybe they can see my ip? maybe they cant

so what should i do, just have a firewall on my router?

[hollow marlin]

You realizes viruses are not like the 90s and are meant to be as silent as possible

[thick minnow]

i have a second router plugged into my router tho and even if i turn it on my main router idk how to do it on the second one.

[unborn sluice]

Fair

[peak cloak]

torrent is p2p they can see your ip

@thick minnow

[thick minnow]

so what about this?

i trust the romanians

they are good guys

[peak cloak]

yes

[unborn sluice]

That sounds complicated

[unborn sluice]

I second this

The only loud (not silent?) Malware nowadays are ransomware

Though ransomware is the hype right now

Cause it's easy, just need to scare and force the victim to pay

[thick minnow]

u gotta download the virus to get it

[unborn sluice]

Do you think like you download it manually?

[thick minnow]

dont go on sketch sites

[unborn sluice]

[thick minnow]

idk ive never had any issues

[hollow marlin]

Yep, the name of the game is to stay low and grab all the information you can.

[thick minnow]

haven;t used realtime antivirus in ... ever?

[unborn sluice]

Cause you're probably not a good target

[thick minnow]

thats the trick

[hollow marlin]

idk ive never had any issues, that I know of Fixed that for you

[thick minnow]

well if i dont know about it, its not an issue

[unborn sluice]

@hollow marlin lol, what if this guy is now part of a botnet

[thick minnow]

also freenas wont work

who recommended that to me

[hollow marlin]

So keyboard logging isn't an issue? credit cards, logins, SSN, etc? The more you know

[thick minnow]

i run the botnet*

all my drives are different sizes

so apparently freenas will mark them all at the lowest capacity

[unborn sluice]

[thick minnow]

i got like 2 250gb, 1 360, 2 1tb, 1 50gb

loads of random ones

[unborn sluice]

And?

[thick minnow]

and apparently freenas wont work

[unborn sluice]

I feel like you don't know raid

[peak cloak]

oh zfs

yeah

[thick minnow]

i dont know raid at all

all i know is i have a lot of drives with usb connection and i need to plug them into a computer and access them from far away

[peak cloak]

freenasn uses zfs, its very specific

zfs is great tbh

[unborn sluice]

You use external drives for freenas?

[thick minnow]

no, but i want to

[peak cloak]

you can

[thick minnow]

i got old laptops lying around

so internal is out of q

[unborn sluice]

Add more q

[peak cloak]

you can use any linux as a nas

[unborn sluice]

I recommend DVL for nas

[peak cloak]

freenas just makes it kinda simple

[unborn sluice]

Except freenas isn't linux

[peak cloak]

freebsd

[thick minnow]

im so lost

i have laptops with windows

[unborn sluice]

And?

[thick minnow]

am i gucci?

[peak cloak]

windows sucks

[thick minnow]

idc

if it works its fine

how?

[peak cloak]

idk

[thick minnow]

what do i search and what do i read

[peak cloak]

i use linux

[thick minnow]

ok, i use windows.

[unborn sluice]

[thick minnow]

whats this guy talking about

do i ignore it

[peak cloak]

research zfs

[unborn sluice]

Have you tried sending it again to us

[peak cloak]

you'll understand

[thick minnow]

what is zfs

more software?

wait some guy said use windows as nas

[peak cloak]

filesystem

[thick minnow]

then do i need zfs?

[peak cloak]

if you value your data you should

[thick minnow]

not really

its just about 10tb of films

whats the cheapest and most simple way to do this

[unborn sluice]

Buy terrabytes of external drives

Then drag drop, profit

[thick minnow]

no

m0ney

wait

im confused

rn

tell me what to do

and i do

cheapest, simplest way.

[unborn sluice]

Pay for Google drive or dropboz

[peak cloak]

there is no best cheapest way

[thick minnow]

That means all the ways are infinitely expensive or free

If free then tell me simplest way

[peak cloak]

there are drawbacks and benifits to each

[thick minnow]

Can't use google drive or dropbox

Already told u I need to seed to it local

[peak cloak]

linux, some sort of share

[thick minnow]

Some sort?

Any specific method I can search

I don't have time to learn everything unfortunately

[unborn sluice]

"how to Nas"

[thick minnow]

Benefits of doing it in Linux not windows?

[unborn sluice]

Sanity

[peak cloak]

like samba i think, and you an use some sort of raid

[thick minnow]

And will Linux and windows bypass the raid 0 issueswith the diff sized drives I would have with freenas?

[peak cloak]

simplicity

[thick minnow]

I have to download Linux rho

[peak cloak]

and?

[thick minnow]

Ok well whatever the issue was

Will it bypass that?

[unborn sluice]

[peak cloak]

raid0, that means if one drive fails you loose your data

[unborn sluice]

It's not bypass

When you don't implement it in the first place

[peak cloak]

this is the purpose of zfs, it has stripping and data integrity checking. This means if a drive fails you can recover the data from the stripe

https://superuser.com/questions/622240/zfs-beginner-setup-with-different-size-drives

@thick minnow

raid0 is like the worst way to do this

[thick minnow]

that 1 drive or all drives?

[peak cloak]

all iirc

[thick minnow]

i would rather lose it from that 1 drive than a little from all drives (because remember these are deffo notfilm torrents)

[peak cloak]

in zfs if cofigured correctly, you will loose no data

you loose some capacity though

[thick minnow]

i wouldn't mind losing data tho from that 1 drive if it fails in return for more capacity

[peak cloak]

then raid0 is not your solution

what you want are individual mounted drives

not a raid

[thick minnow]

how do i do that

[peak cloak]

you can use LVM?

[thick minnow]

any windows equivalent?

[peak cloak]

idk

see, most of these things are linux only

because everyone in enterprise used some sort of unix

[thick minnow]

what was the advantage of doing windows over freenas?

is there no way freenas will work cuz zfs

[peak cloak]

there is none

idk if there is any easy way to setup LVM without cli

[thick minnow]

is there no way freenas will work cuz zfs

[peak cloak]

dynamic disks?

[thick minnow]

what if i dump my 50gb drive?

[peak cloak]

wdym

[thick minnow]

and smallest cap is 250gb, largest 1tb

5 drives

will freenas work? lets say i do decide to use zfs

[peak cloak]

@thick minnow windows also has storage spaces

[peak cloak]

yeah pretty sure

https://superuser.com/questions/622240/zfs-beginner-setup-with-different-size-drives

[thick minnow]

so 5 x 250, as long as i dont get a 2tb drive or anything it should work fine.

ill check out that link in 10 minutes.

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow for large arrays, 5 and up, I would stay away from traditional raid

ZFS offers scaling capabilities for much larger quantities of storage

[thick minnow]

how much capacity will it use?

and do i need to leave it overhead?

[tame carbon]

depends, with ZFS there are calculators you can use

ZFS uses something called parity, which is checksums used to make sure integrity on the data disks is present

so its not a direct mirror

ZFS just works if you have very large quantities of data and need to make sure you have fault tolerance

so that if you have individual bit failures on the disks, that those are picked up and corrected automagically

https://wintelguy.com/zfs-calc.pl

https://i.imgur.com/R1YwmKt.png

so here you can see

77.22% useable storage

[thick minnow]

ouch thats quite a bit

is it possible to use a few drives zfs and a few not?

[tame carbon]

its not economic to run this on less than 5

if you just have two 4TB drives and want to make sure your data is safe

you can just btrfs raid1 or zfs raid1

since those mirror

you have 50% useable storage of total

https://docs.docker.com/storage/storagedriver/images/btfs_pool.jpg

btrfs has some magic

its a CoW filesystem

copy on write

duplicate files and such are able to be stored once

saving space

this is nice for archival storage, because you can have copies of your archive, without taking up more space

so monthly copy takes up almost no space, only whatever changed

[thick minnow]

raid 1 halfs ur capacity

thats a certian no

[tame carbon]

like ZFS, btrfs can also do self healing

https://cdn.app.compendium.com/uploads/user/e7c690e8-6ff9-102a-ac6d-e4aebca50425/f4a5b21d-66fa-4885-92bf-c4e81c06d916/Image/d8147cbfe515458c6a6530948a571947/zfs_slide.jpg

yeah, and then there's raid0

that just stripes the volumes together into a single block of storage

doubles the risk of failures, but doubles storage and access speed

there are combinations of this

like with RAID10

two RAID 1 volumes striped together

but the problem with classical raid, is that unless you have a specific drive & specific controller, it wont protect you from filesystem corruptions

thats why ZFS and btrfs are so interesting, because they store checksums and verify if one disk has a bit failure

it can then use the checksum to figure out what that bit would have been, if it wasnt faulty

and rebuild itself

so in a ZFS raid5, I think there's like a 1 disk failure at the most

@peak cloak what was it again?

or two?

[thick minnow]

doubles storage? as in 100% of drive capacity?

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow raid0 yeah

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/RAID_0.svg/800px-RAID_0.svg.png

'A' is a storage pool

[thick minnow]

benefit of that over induvidually mounted drives?

[peak cloak]

1 I think

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow data corruption

harddrives die.

and most important thing with a storage array

is that it stores bits perfectly.

[peak cloak]

in raid 0, does all data corrupt if one drive fails

[tame carbon]

if one disk fails on a raid 0

all your data is gone

[peak cloak]

that's why I suggested a LVM

[tame carbon]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/RAID_1.svg/800px-RAID_1.svg.png

This is RAID1

[peak cloak]

because @thick minnow said he wouldn't mind if data on one drive was lost

[tame carbon]

this protects you from drive failures

but cannot protect you from filesystem corruptions

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/RAID2_arch.svg/1920px-RAID2_arch.svg.png

this is RAID with parity

4 data disks, striped together

and then three parity disks

I think in this configuration, you can loose like 2 drives before you have data loss

[peak cloak]

still ZFS or other systems similar are better

than RAID

[tame carbon]

yeah

ZFS spreads this party across the disks

and can do some smart stuff with that

@peak cloak https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/RAID_6.svg/1920px-RAID_6.svg.png

RAID6 attempts to do this

[peak cloak]

yeah on unraid all the parity is on 1 or 2 drives?

[tame carbon]

but the whole concept of ZFS is that its built into the filesystem, not just the block device handler

@peak cloak LVM is kinda jank

[tame carbon]

after you have it in service for a while

it can become a huge mess

if you don't do it cleanly

[thick minnow]

i heard you guys could help me setup my discord server

[tame carbon]

rtfm

[peak cloak]

oh discord server no

an actual server yes

[thick minnow]

hqhqhq

how do i plug more drives into a crappy laptop?

well than nvm

is there anyway i can access direct sata tracks?

because 10 drives plugged into 1 usb port is gonna limit bandwith a lot

[tame carbon]

oh what.

raid on a usb controller

errrrrrr

I uhm

shiver at the idea

[thick minnow]

uh oh

why?

thats what im planning

[tame carbon]

because usb is not reliable at all

[thick minnow]

i mean i have a stack of 10 drives ontop of my pc for months now

[peak cloak]

use pcie if you can

[thick minnow]

how to use pcie on laptop?

[peak cloak]

some laptops have an m.2 slot

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow pull out the wifi adapter

[peak cloak]

yep

[tame carbon]

has miniPCIe

[thick minnow]

how do i open this up to sata?

is there like mini pcie to sata?

[tame carbon]

https://content.hwigroup.net/images/articles/Genummerdeaansluitingen.jpg

you can buy flexcables

[thick minnow]

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/sata-cables/8158548/?cm_mmc=UK-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-CSS_UK_EN_Cables_%26_Wires_Whoop-_-SATA+Cables_Whoop-_-8158548&matchtype=&pla-356723080299&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3smABhCjARIsAKtrg6LD59tugNyhbtTyRluNwAt_a1ZmjTp3c-GAWh75POZKAFyNNsRw3DsaAuMsEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

if i daisy chain these

like 10 of them

will that work

[tame carbon]

they are limited in bandwidth though, since its only a 8x link

[thick minnow]

also how do i get power to them?

[tame carbon]

why are you trying to do this with a laptop

lol

[peak cloak]

yeah a laptop isn't ideal for this

[thick minnow]

i have laptop,

i doint have spare desktop

i have a powermac G5

would that work?

[tame carbon]

any ol $50 used computer can work for this

[clear igloo]

Well your laptop isn't going to be a laptop after you do this, it's going to be a desktop

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow if all you need is some sata and PCIe slots for some more storage card

[peak cloak]

maybe, if you can linux on it

[tame carbon]

if you have large volumes, you need a lot more memory and CPU

[thick minnow]

lets say 10tb

[peak cloak]

pretty old though

don't expect good R and W perf

[thick minnow]

would daisy chaining 10 of these work then? https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/sata-cables/8158548/?cm_mmc=UK-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-CSS_UK_EN_Cables_%26_Wires_Whoop-_-SATA+Cables_Whoop-_-8158548&matchtype=&pla-356723080299&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3smABhCjARIsAKtrg6LD59tugNyhbtTyRluNwAt_a1ZmjTp3c-GAWh75POZKAFyNNsRw3DsaAuMsEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[peak cloak]

idk

[tame carbon]

https://www.cnx-software.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Rock-Pi-Penta-SATA-Hat.jpg

[peak cloak]

maybe

[thick minnow]

what type of power does that need? is that molex?

[vestal smelt]

man
I have almost the same card
what laptop model you Have and does it have a spwre mSATA interface or a WWAN card?

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow that's a hat for a raspberry pi

you need to provide external power to it

[carmine moss]

just buy a cheap used desktop as your nas the torrent can't be that bad if you find a good deal

[tame carbon]

like old computers from 6 years ago

still do fine as a NAS server

you dont need graphics cus its headless

all you need is a network interface, and sata

[peak cloak]

https://newjersey.craigslist.org/sys/d/dell-optiplex-7010-intel-quad-core-ghz/7260270267.html

I found this near me

[vestal smelt]

My dell has both a spare half mSATA, upon which you can set boot from the BIOS under the internal NIC, I think
And depending on the laptop you have, you might be able to get a dock for it (docking station)
Those usually have extra USB connetivity and maybe some spare eSATA

[tame carbon]

$150 bucks server

[peak cloak]

pretty nice as it has remote out-of-band management

[tame carbon]

nice

the nice thing about a full PC

is you have PCIe slots

[vestal smelt]

Same

[tame carbon]

so you can add faster network cards, more storage cards

[peak cloak]

and it's more standard

[tame carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/776722183119699988/777646103775674368/IMG-20200922-WA0001.jpg

dumped about 1k on this rig

used PC is much cheaper

[carmine moss]

yeah the only reason to get a used server is if you need the compute but it also uses more power then an old pc

[peak cloak]

yeah

those old servers are hungry and loud

[tame carbon]

I needed a little compute too

there's a ryzen 2600 in there

with a 10G network card and like 8 sata drives

and 16GB ECC DDR4 @ 2400Mhz

but for 1G NAS with like 8TB storage

you can use a 50-100 buck PC

DDR3 is much cheaper if used

[thick minnow]

im suprised u even need power for a server

i was just gonna torrent not films to it.

[tame carbon]

the one in the picture has a 250watt supply

[thick minnow]

im mean like so much performance power.

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow I have like 6 virtual machiens running on this lol

with a couple games, some websites

[thick minnow]

why?

[tame carbon]

and other programs

cus I have a fast internet connection and like to have these things at home?

I have like 8 public IP addresses on this network :P

[thick minnow]

why the vm's?

what u running on them?

i wanna find a reason to get stuff like that in the future lol

[peak cloak]

vm's for each program

[tame carbon]

each environment has its own VM

its own public IP

[peak cloak]

much easier to manage

[thick minnow]

oh so u just use them to connect to when ur out e.g music.

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow I host services for the internet

not exactly going to say what, since I don't want to dox myself lol

most of public endpoints here are in the cloud

[thick minnow]

if u host ur own website, is that a doable thing to do?

[tame carbon]

definetly

[thick minnow]

and is it easy to get a security certificate.

[tame carbon]

Yep

[thick minnow]

oh really

[peak cloak]

yep, let's enrypt

[tame carbon]

you can use letsencrypt, if you have a domainname

[peak cloak]

just need to prove you own the server

[tame carbon]

Its free

just need to have a static IP

[thick minnow]

how do u protect against ddos etc?

[tame carbon]

and a valid domain pointing to that IP

[peak cloak]

either a DNS challenge, or HTTP challenge

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow thats what the tunnel to my vps in the cloud is for

that is a public endpoint for my services

it just gets routed to my local network

other things like my home VPN has its own IP as well

[peak cloak]

I run a MC server for my friends, it has no ddos protection

[thick minnow]

how much does all that cost? monthly costs? except power

[tame carbon]

yeah if its just for friends you dont need anti ddos

but once oyu have an active playerbase, and one guy gets mad with his booters

[peak cloak]

yep

[tame carbon]

he just knocks you offline and ruins the fun

[thick minnow]

i mean im paying 30 quid a month + 6 for certificate for a website

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow

[thick minnow]

whats payback time if i host my own server?

[tame carbon]

https://letsencrypt.org/

@thick minnow vps in the cloud is cheaper

but self managed can also be a lot of fun

and having it at home, means super fast access for yourself

[thick minnow]

idc about super fast access for myself, what are vps?

[tame carbon]

like I have a 10G backbone in my home for no good reason

@thick minnow virtual private server

[peak cloak]

it's not the most cost effective, but you own it yourself, you are not at mercy of your vps provider

[tame carbon]

like a virtual server in the cloud

you rent a cpu core and some memory

and get a public IP with some bandwidth

[thick minnow]

what prices are we looking at tho?

[carmine moss]

also depends on what exactly you want to run on it if home vs in a datacenter is needed

[thick minnow]

for an idea

[peak cloak]

for self hosted or vps?

[thick minnow]

selfhosted

[peak cloak]

depends alot

[thick minnow]

can i use letsencrypt if im using a vps?

[tame carbon]

https://i.imgur.com/SPxTDt2.png

[peak cloak]

are you running a little pi

[tame carbon]

Yes

[peak cloak]

or a huge power hungry old server

[tame carbon]

The smallest plan has 1GB ram, 2 cores, 25GB storage and 1TB transfer

with 1G upload and 40G download

[peak cloak]

new servers are more expensive but less power hungry

[tame carbon]

https://www.linode.com/pricing/#row--compute

[thick minnow]

can i use letsencrypt if im not hosting?

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow they are just a certificate authority

[carmine moss]

also you can rent a dedicated box in place of a vm on a server if needed dedicated box with 64gb ram an an i7-6700 and 512gb nvme drives are 50 usd depending on hosting provider

[tame carbon]

they have a little linux tool called certbot which is a program that you use to sign the certificate

[peak cloak]

or acme.sh

[carmine moss]

but that is 50 usd every month to use the box and has more costs for data sent

[peak cloak]

https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow benefit of a little box at home as a NAS with some horsepowers, is that you can also host other services on it

and if you have a fast home internet connection, you can just set it up at home

so you dont have to pay someone every month

https://i.imgur.com/G3tBxed.png

vroom vroom

who needs a VPS

https://serverius.net/

:3

I have a fiber straight to that datacenter

Peering is expensive though, if I want 800mbit I need to pay like 60% more

already paying 74, I think 800mbit plan was like 170bucks

benefit with this ISP is that I have a small VPS in their datacenter, to which I have fast access

@thick minnow upload is you care about when hosting services

and problem with most residential connections is that they aren't symetric

[thick minnow]

considering it seems more expensive ill think ill just stick to my website hoster.

considering doing this on a smaller scale to access my music library tho

[thick minnow]

Is there any way I can use a computer running free nas also as a printer server?

[peak cloak]

technically yes

cups works on freebsd

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo https://blob.rocks/waR0sFIZFR.png

[clear igloo]

Ads on your controller? Ouch

[rocky badge]

and a useless "WiFi experience" metric

this is the "classic" dashboard https://blob.rocks/niQTOgojOL.png

[thick minnow]

what are cups?

[peak cloak]

cups is a printer server

[thick minnow]

will it not work on freenas?

[peak cloak]

https://www.cups.org/

[thick minnow]

im new to everything and freenas seems hard enough to make it work

[peak cloak]

freenas is freebsd

[thick minnow]

oh ok

[waxen saddle]

Hold up. @rocky badge, what controller were you using where it shows the ad?

[rocky badge]

6.1.51

[waxen saddle]

on a cloud key?

[thick minnow]

what would a R710 dell server be used for?

can i use it as a nas?

[rocky badge]

VM

[waxen saddle]

Although I consider that to be COMPLETE BS by Ubiquiti (they seem to be making a bunch of BS moves lately), it's not showing on my cloudkey, so I won't be actively hostile to Ubiquiti for now.

The moment I start getting ads on my controller, I become actively hostile to Ubiquiti. I don't tolerate that crap.

[peak cloak]

yeah

but the r710 is an old server

loud and hungry

we have one at school

[thick minnow]

What's it worth?

[waxen scroll]

i have one in my basement

new VMware doesnt support it soooo move on

its a 7+ year old platform at this point

[peak cloak]

not much tbh

get at least an Rx20 or up

or with hp

a Gen8 at least

[rocky badge]

yeah its kinda stupid

[cursive valve]

I'm running esxi on my older r710 mostly for fun and some dbs on there

[tame carbon]

mikrotik, anyone?

xD

[waxen saddle]

It's unprofessional, it's stupid, it's arrogant, it's useless. Why tick off your professionals?

[rocky badge]

Rx10

[cursive valve]

Ask me about my r900

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak yup...I have a R620 and DL360p G8

[rocky badge]

Luckily you can always go back to the classic dashboard lol

[waxen saddle]

Yea, but they are phasing it out.

[rocky badge]

I don't think it'll go away quickly

That new UI is still "alpha"

[cursive valve]

I have 30 Ibm x3550s if anyone wants to pay shipping...

[rocky badge]

6.1.x isn't supported yet on UDMP 1.8.x either @waxen saddle

[tame carbon]

@cursive valve where at

[rocky badge]

Only 1.9.x

[tame carbon]

europe?

[rocky badge]

Which version kek

M3? M4?

If it's anything below "v1"/v2

[cursive valve]

Oh for sure the og

Top of the line

15 years ago 😂

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner i wanna build that mini PC linus had with the EPYC and ditch the R710, but 4 ram slots sucks

[rocky badge]

advertising fsb

Yeah ok that's old

[elfin jolt]

Id rather build a regular PC

I cant trust myself with expensive parts

[rocky badge]

I wanna upgrade the cpu and ram in my servers lol

[elfin jolt]

proceeds to hop into bios to overclock ram with no experience doing so on a $1200 PC

[waxen scroll]

my R710 got 300gb ram so new server wont have that 😦

too expensive

[rocky badge]

I only have 64GB in my R620 and 32GB in the DL360p

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner i am also concerned about noise and power usage, so linus server is attractive

[little schooner]

I want to do the same. But I do need expansion so I'm still on the fence.

[peak cloak]

I was looking at an HP DL20 G9 once as a small server

[rocky badge]

I want one of those Supermicro short depth

[peak cloak]

yeah those too

I'm not familiar with SM's naming

[rocky badge]

I wish the stupid iDRAC port on my R620 didn't die

[thick minnow]

where can i download and older version of freenas?

[thick minnow]

20 quid? What's a number? Or is it literally scrap?

[peak cloak]

close to scrap tbh, idk exactly how much

it's not worth it tbh

like 4 years back than maybe

but now

[ocean pivot]

I made the jump 😄

[peak cloak]

nice

[peak cloak]

sfp+ or copper?

[ocean pivot]

ethernet

[peak cloak]

ah

[ocean pivot]

maybe my isp will roll out 10g at some point lol

[peak cloak]

10g is excessive for WAN

especially for a single family house

[ocean pivot]

I do a lot of work with 4k and 8k files, so it would help a lot especially with covid

[rocky badge]

10 gig 👌

[peak cloak]

ah true, just gotta make sure the whole route can support 10 gig

[rocky badge]

I'm still planning a massive 10 gig upgrade

but I have some 10 gig already

[ocean pivot]

Yeah I am just starting now cause no idea if or when my isp will have 10g

Mainly just between my desktop and nas atm

[peak cloak]

yeah, could you "cache" your files in your NAS when you are working with them?

[sacred gorge]

Currently trying to setup a CPE for some ranged wifi, and cannot for the life of me get the web access up

anyone have experience with them?

[elfin meteor]

so basically, im tryna get my mc server all port forwarded, i did it before in the past, i dont remember how i did it, when i used sites like port checker, it says 25565 was closed despite having my ipv4 supposed to being hooked up to it

[peak cloak]

well for one that's a reserved IP address not your public IP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_IP_addresses

you are behind NAT, and 192.168.x.x is reserved for that purpose

lookup on google my ip

or

if you can on your router check your WAN interface IP

for example

this is my WAN interface

[elfin meteor]

got that in response

[peak cloak]

yes, you put in local IP for you what machine you are port forwarding

but to check it on a port checker you use public IP

also fyi bad idea to expose FTP

[elfin meteor]

local ip is 192?

[peak cloak]

yes

the one from ipconfig

[elfin meteor]

ight

i just forgot tochange the name from ftp

[peak cloak]

ah ok

[elfin meteor]

should i have an ftp forwarded?

[peak cloak]

no

[elfin meteor]

kk

[peak cloak]

what are you hosting?

[elfin meteor]

Minecraft server

[peak cloak]

ok