#networking | Linus Tech Tips | Page 266

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 5:45 PM

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oh

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@lean pebble that might be it

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there should be packet fragementation, but this is generally not an issue

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unless the pipe you stuff your packet down is not configured properly

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https://i.imgur.com/kx1xlDW.png

Imgur

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Try pinging something on other size

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with different sizes

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to figure out what MTU you need

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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omg the ISP mtu keep going down

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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if you disable fragmentation

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you get packet loss

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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from 1480 to 1460

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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if MTU is too big

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then you get weird issues with connections

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I once experienced this with L2TP over a network with 1480MTU

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really annoying

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cus on my laptop I could change this

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but my phone didnt have a setting for this

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 5:51 PM

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ya I know that you can change it on your pc

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actually it looks ok now without capping myself to 3.5Mb download speed and without proxy / vpns

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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PTM is Packet Transfer Mode using variable length 1500 byte packets.

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@lean pebble but

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you might need to also set the MTU on the interface that is connected to the modem itself

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https://i.imgur.com/Lw4HYW6.png

Imgur

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 5:56 PM

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1500?

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 5:57 PM

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yeah reduce L2 to 1500

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and MTU to 1408

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 6:05 PM

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haha this is to annoying I can't do anything while downloading

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even ssh to my server is soo laggy

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 6:05 PM

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if the link is congested

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its kinda expected

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ethernet is 'best effort'

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 6:06 PM

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I wish I could replace the ADSL in ethernet

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I can't change mtu on my modem

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don't have option there

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I can check my other modem but last time I tried it didn't worked correctly

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Pogey

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 6:53 PM

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📎 IMG_20210120_205216_918.jpg

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Does it good? 🤔

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Here we go again internet is down

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Because I hit 4.6mb

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Down

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 6:54 PM

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@lean pebble does the speed fluctuate as well?

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like, it kicks you off

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and gets a new speed?

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 6:55 PM

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This is with the new modem

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The screen I sent here

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The speed hit 4.6mb and going completely down after 1 minute

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Or 30 seconds for be more accurate

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I activated the modem logs now

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Let's see what's going on

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:02 PM

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tame carbon and MTU to 1408

I did it

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I hope it'll work ok

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:03 PM

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the more you talk about this issue

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the more confused I get

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might not be an MTU issue, but just a line fault

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Me to

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:03 PM

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like

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fuck

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ADSL.

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:03 PM

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I hate it man

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:03 PM

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blame ur isp

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call their support

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and if it dont work

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call again

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and again

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:04 PM

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I thought to get a 500gb lte plan and connect to my router

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As a backup line

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Or line for download only

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😂

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The lte here is fine

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I downloaded gta v in 30 minutes on lte

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And watch dogs 2

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And hitman 2

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 7:05 PM

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but you have fiber right outside your house

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Ya for 12 years I think

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Disconnected from both sides

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And another fiber ISP behind my back yard

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But hell no they'll never connect me because I'm living in private house 🏡

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I'm not business or building 🏢

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:07 PM

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lol I just went to chamber of commerce

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and got a tax id

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Lol

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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but its legit

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I wish I could download and use my internet for another stuff at the same time

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I do work for people and write invoices

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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no tax ID needed. you wanna pay taxes?

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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but its nice, cus I can just get business internet plan

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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xD

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:09 PM

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@waxen scroll well, I take in VAT

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which I have to pay back to the govt

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:09 PM

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We all do

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:09 PM

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you pay VAT as a private entity

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:09 PM

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I'm paying and I'm jobless

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:10 PM

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if I sell something, 21% gets added ontop, which is not even my money

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:10 PM

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Ya I know

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Here its 17% I think

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Or 18

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:10 PM

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but setting up a private self employment company

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costs like 50 bucks lol

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and for that you get: a flyer with basic info on how to do ur taxes for company

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and for the next 3 months

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Internet just went down again

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:11 PM

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you get spamcalls all day long

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:11 PM

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No logs detected on the modem

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Ya I worked on hosting company I got alot of spam calls

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I consider almost all the customers as spammers

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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lean pebble The speed hit 4.6mb and going completely down after 1 minute

In your Mikrotik try setting your pppoe-client keep-alive to 0 and test again

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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No it's on 10

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I think

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Yap 10

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Do I need dial on demand? 🤔
I don't think I need it correct me if I'm wrong

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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No, but like I said, change it to 0 and try. 0 is to not let it timeout

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Ya I just did it

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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I would also keep the pppoe client in the GUI up and see if that goes down if your connection does as well

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Oh gosh mtu went down to 1388

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Not a big deal

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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I'm on both the modem and the router

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Monitoring while downloading in epic games

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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@lean pebble every network protocol you add to your stack, will reduce the effective MTU in the layer above

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ethernet is normally 1500

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So the highest MTU you can use, is the one that your modem supports

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it is the 'maximum transfer unit'

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largest amount of bytes in a single ethernet frame

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if you add say, PPPoE

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you loose a few bytes, from protocol overhead

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:30 PM

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I'm trying to understand what this MAC Address

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:30 PM

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normally, carriers offset this by increasing the MTU

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so that after all the VLAN crap and other layers are peeled off

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it is 1500

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jumbo frames can be like 15000

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and mikrotik's internal bridges can go up to like 65565

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https://i.imgur.com/ix4T61L.png

Imgur

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:32 PM

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All my net is down again

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With keepalive 0

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:32 PM

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@hollow marlin I think his modem has issues

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Pppoe is going down a time

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New modem

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:32 PM

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yeah that doesnt matter

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the line itself can be bad

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Just replace to my new one

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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if you have dsl issues, 9/10 it is not the modem

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but the line

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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I found in mikrotik log that everytime the keep alive triggered there is some device that trying to obtain internal IP

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Keep spamming connecting and disconnecting to my pppoe

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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lean pebble Pppoe is going down a time

PPPoE shouldn't be going down unless an interface goes down with no timeout

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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@lean pebble does your modem report any issues?

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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All is down

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 PM

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@hollow marlin lol what if it is the PPP server

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 PM

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📎 IMG_20210120_213415.jpg

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:35 PM

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tame carbon <@!462711605063450628> lol what if it is the PPP server

The server would have to be sending the termination request

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:35 PM

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All the time

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Go to your pppoe interface

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click on pppoe scan

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see what the mac address of the dslam is

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and then try arpping from your mikrotik

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Ok

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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tools -> ping

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and then tick the box

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make sure you select an interface

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so you can ping to the mac address instead

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and then monitor that for issues

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Ok I checked it but cNant ping it

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Not accepting the mac

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Nvrm

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Timeout

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:39 PM

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hold on

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:39 PM

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on the interface place I should check my pppoe or eth1 ? eth1 connected to my modem

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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@lean pebble the problem is

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we dont know where the issue is lol

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like, we need to start at the lowest point

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with the ADSL link itself

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387022787480387605/801524865889861653/IMG_20210120_205216_918.jpg

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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lean pebble

This looks like a tik problem or a bad ppp handshake

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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like what

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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So I need to go crack the ISP rack outdoors ?

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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@hollow marlin yeah but caused by?

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MTU?

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fw ?

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no

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ppp is l2

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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tame carbon with the ADSL link itself

His stats from yesterday of his line is clean. The tik is at fault. Possibly bug, its handshake completes then immediately terminated

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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@lean pebble can you go to System -> Packages for me

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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I'm with it for 5 months xD

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Ya sure

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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check for updates

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Wait what could not resolved dns name

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😆

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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@hollow marlin https://i.imgur.com/VhulXF8.png

Imgur

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@hollow marlin tr069

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isnt that the backdoor for the feds?

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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The internet infrastructure and ISP port for connecting their gear remotely

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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you can now remote upgrade mikrotiks

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as part of an ISP infrastructure

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how epic

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Also before we go down another rabbit hole @lean pebble under ip > address, is the 10.0.20.19 address there or any 10.0.20.x, or is that your LAN

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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tame carbon <@!462711605063450628> tr069

ISPs, including us, use TR069 heavily for mass management

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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well

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tik's now do it

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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can you remind me how do I change dns in mtik?

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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ip -> dns

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oh cool

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they also added improvements to tunnel bridging

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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Downloading update

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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sorry, distracted by the mikrotik patch notes

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@lean pebble after you have applied the update, you should then upgrade your firmware

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but do that after you reboot

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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hollow marlin Also before we go down another rabbit hole <@!109801863771074560> under ip > add...

Ya

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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@tame carbon what branch you run? Im always on the testing build, remember seeing TR069 quite a bit ago

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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router and CRS run testing

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everything else is stable

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Any x is my lan

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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@hollow marlin havent upgraded ina while

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trying to get that sweet sweet uptime

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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10.0.20.*

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Latest version installed

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And rebooted

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:50 PM

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ok then

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go to System -> Routerboard

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and click on upgrade

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this flashes new firmware onto the board

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Done

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Rebooting

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:52 PM

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ok

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lets see if this made some difference

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:53 PM

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I hope so

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I switched from old fortigate to mtik

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Because I thought the problem with this fortigate

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:53 PM

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If it is still happening then its the PPP configuration and a mismatch with the concentration (their PPPoE server)

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Up and running

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:54 PM

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But what I don't get is you should almost never have a connection with a mismatch

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Well in the last 4 years I moved between their servers because alot of issues

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So I guess is their server

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But let's check

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:55 PM

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@hollow marlin do you know of any ways for a mtik to do DSL ?

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Ok satan

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:56 PM

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didnt they once sell adsl modem/routers ?

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like

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Man I can't spent anymore money I'm jobless 😅

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:56 PM

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I have an ancient Cisco modem around here

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lemme see

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:56 PM

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lol but not that I know of. Not until enterprise gear when you get modules for DSL/T1

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 7:56 PM

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get model no

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Well now pppoe can't even established connection

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 7:59 PM

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move the timeout from 0 to 60. Its a part of the handshake

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Wow

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That's took time

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:02 PM

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cant find it

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only found a bunch of 48 port switches

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:02 PM

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lol

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:02 PM

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went through like 10 boxes

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its somewhere

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:02 PM

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connect one and put a cable from your router to my router all the way from the US

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:02 PM

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I have a slight tech hoarding problem

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 8:03 PM

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tame carbon cant find it

If it has an empty slot and old enough it most likely would support DSL modules

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:03 PM

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so there are SFP to DSL modules?

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or something else?

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Its just an add-in module that is essentially just a modem

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:04 PM

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link?

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because I've searched for this in the past

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and cant find anything

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 8:04 PM

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📎 9k.png

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NIM, thats what it was called

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:05 PM

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product name?

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Pppoe keep dying

clear igloo Jan 20, 2021, 8:05 PM

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If it's an old old modem it's a WIC you want, "newer" stuff would support H-WICs or EHWIC and then the newest supports NIMs

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:05 PM

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after the upgrade it can't hit 4.5mb xD

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and still crashing

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The adsl is stable

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:09 PM

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/system logging add topics=ppp,debug,!packet

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run that command

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:09 PM

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connect it with ssh?

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:09 PM

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no

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just click on terminal

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on the left

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:09 PM

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oh I didn't noticed to it

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XD

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pppoe-out1: IPV6CP timer

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🤨

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:11 PM

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can you send us a log of the next errors?

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its more detailed now

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so might be able to spot a problem

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instead of just 'error' 'initiatializing'

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:12 PM

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ya when it'll happen again I'll send

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:12 PM

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@hollow marlin for some reason, I couldn't get simple queues to work on my router without disabling fastpath

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like, its got the horsepowers to do it

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but still, I found it very odd

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I noticed that the queue worked everytime i had torch running, and torch temporarily disables fast path

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:13 PM

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does winbox have dark mode?

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:13 PM

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I don't think so

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its a tiny program

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like 2mb

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:14 PM

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pppoe-out1: IPV6CP timer
``` I see only this two now on logs

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from now

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:15 PM

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ok go to system -> logging

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and modify that rule

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remove the !

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now we get debug data for every packet lol

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:16 PM

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there is no !

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:16 PM

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click on the rule we added

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and one of the topics has the checkbox ticked

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untick that

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:16 PM

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found it

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did it

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I want the internet speed that linus have at his office xD

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:18 PM

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fiber

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:18 PM

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it was 10Gb

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right?

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:18 PM

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to the exchange yeah

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but he only got that to services in his exchange

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anything outside is slower

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:19 PM

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ya

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:19 PM

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so google ofcourse

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would be fast

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:20 PM

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here the lowest ping I get is 5 in a good day to the isp server

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all the rest 20+++

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:20 PM

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well whats the log say

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:20 PM

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nothing for now

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update

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1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: rcvd pppoe-out1: sent pppoe-out1: sent MPLSCP ConfReq id=0x17

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this is the last thing I got

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:22 PM

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yeah you can ignore that

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just look when the internet goes down

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what happens

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:22 PM

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if it'll go down

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for now it can't hit even 3.5Mb

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stuck on 2.4/5

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and lower

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:23 PM

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and what about

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latency

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and packet loss

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Internet is down.

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You just said the magic word

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Packet loss

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I feel magic in the air

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Alot of magic errors in mtik log

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:28 PM

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screenshot?

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:28 PM

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pppoe-out1: rcvd LCP EchoReq id=0x2

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<magic 0xaefc1253>

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:29 PM

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those are just magic numbers

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Sec loading

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:29 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(programming)

Magic number (programming)

In computer programming, the term magic number has multiple meanings. It could refer to one or more of the following:

Unique values with unexplained meaning or multiple occurrences which could (preferably) be replaced with named constants
A constant numerical or text value used to identify a file format or protocol; for files, see List of file...

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its just a unique sequence you declare

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to identify incoming data

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usually part of a handshake

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:29 PM

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pppoe-out1: rcvd LCP ConfReq id=0x69

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yeah look

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give me a logfile

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or a screenshot

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individual fragments not going to help

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@lean pebble otherwise, ask your ISP

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they also have logs on their dslam

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 8:31 PM

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sending wait

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📎 test.png

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mtik not encrypting data in logs ? O_o

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@tame carbon

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Just talked with the ISP

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 9:04 PM

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@hollow marlin can you make anything of this ^?

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:05 PM

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They moved me to different pppoe server

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 9:05 PM

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right

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:06 PM

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and they'll get back to me because last time it went to higher department

tame carbon Jan 20, 2021, 9:07 PM

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shit just got real

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xD

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with larger organizations

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its sometimes quite hard to get the right cog to turn

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:10 PM

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digital department

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now only those messages

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pppoe-out1: sent MPLSCP ConfReq id=0x26

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:12 PM

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🍆

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@lean pebble sure it says ISP terminated you

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call them and ask why

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:13 PM

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ya

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I'm with them on the line waiting

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:14 PM

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tell them you're a network engineer at another ISP and you've seen this before and its them

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they'll love it

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:14 PM

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already did

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:14 PM

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monkaS

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:14 PM

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gave a friend to talk with them

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 9:15 PM

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tame carbon <@!462711605063450628> can you make anything of this ^?

The ACK is not making it back to the concentrator

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:15 PM

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bad 👏 layer 1

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:16 PM

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here we go again

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they're blaming the static ip

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:16 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/anos-voldigoad-gif-19509505

Tenor

peak cloak Jan 20, 2021, 9:16 PM

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wait, shouldn't you be getting your ip from their DHCP server?

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idk

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:17 PM

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after we checked and saw nothing changed

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:17 PM

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peak cloak wait, shouldn't you be getting your ip from their DHCP server?

ya but they assigned me static IP

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by their DHCP

peak cloak Jan 20, 2021, 9:18 PM

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ah

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:18 PM

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already switched 4 IPs

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They'll get back to me from the digital department

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untill then I hope the fiber will arrive

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Do you think my download will end until 2022?

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I'm on 80% for an hour

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 9:25 PM

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@lean pebble Can you do a traffic generator on the tik on the WAN and save the file as a .pcap?

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:25 PM

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ya

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 9:26 PM

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I would try to time it to keep the pcap file relatively small but Id be interested in the confack/req and the header

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:27 PM

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packet size?

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:40 PM

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unlimited

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Haha crashed

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Peer not responding

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It'll be funny if all of their pppoe servers will be "not responding"

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Blaming my static IP than blaming my network gear and their network gear just not the right gear

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It looks like they rebooted the pppoe server

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The router stopped trying

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😆

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:47 PM

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😷

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:47 PM

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I think they need to make another pppoe server and another gateway ...

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It looks like all their customers going out from the same gateway IP

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 9:51 PM

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Still trying to think what would cause just the confack from being dropped. Also for kicks, under ppp profiles, set use ipv6 and mpls to no. Thats not helping matters

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:51 PM

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Where is it ?

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 9:52 PM

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i think ppp > profiles

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:52 PM

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I see here bridge learning

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:54 PM

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hollow marlin Still trying to think what would cause just the confack from being dropped. Also...

Done

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But I'm still disconnected from the internet

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Is the mikrotik still sending ppp in the logs?

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:56 PM

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did the issue start when you introduced a mikrotik to the network?

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maybe not use them

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😄

clear igloo Jan 20, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Just slap a 44RU router down there instead 😛

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:57 PM

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muh ASR9001

clear igloo Jan 20, 2021, 9:57 PM

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9922*

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:57 PM

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nah im being reasonable

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:58 PM

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hollow marlin Is the mikrotik still sending ppp in the logs?

Yap

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 9:59 PM

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waxen scroll did the issue start when you introduced a mikrotik to the network?

Nope

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Long before the mtik

waxen scroll Jan 20, 2021, 9:59 PM

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👺

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 10:00 PM

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All I can think of is their PPP pps limit is too low

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 10:01 PM

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And too slow

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😁

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I tried to make my own pppoe server on my pfsense that I host on my server but couldn't success

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I gave this pppoe client the best name

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 10:03 PM

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PPPoE is a PITA when things act up, we are 50/50 PPPoE and DHCP.

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Do you think they're working ?

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It just keep disconnecting

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I'm not doing anything

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Hard to say without seeing whats in those confacks/req

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 10:08 PM

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It just keep going down

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Just say pppoe disconnected

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All the time

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Couldn't get the ack / req

hollow marlin Jan 20, 2021, 10:12 PM

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in the mikrotik GUI, go to terminal and type export hide-sensitive and past/send the output. Want to make sure nothing else is in play

lean pebble Jan 20, 2021, 10:25 PM

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1000 lines in error log

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Still no internet

waxen scroll Jan 21, 2021, 1:51 AM

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well fix it

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:34 AM

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oh RHEL is free for up to 16 systems now

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still will probobly use Rocky Linux

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 3:40 AM

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peak cloak oh RHEL is free for up to 16 systems now

where

thick minnow Jan 21, 2021, 4:44 AM

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unborn sluice where

Red Hat Developer Subscription, onward from 16th. Up to 16 production systems, you can get like 50 systems on redhat developer if your organisation signs up you up.

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel#Bookmark 1

New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to acc...

Introducing new no-cost RHEL programs for small production deployments and enterprise development teams

little schooner Jan 21, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Is it necessary to create a VIF on a router interface for vlan 1 or can I use the interface directly (eth1 instead of eth1.1) in a router on a stick config?

little schooner Jan 21, 2021, 5:44 AM

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I ended up making it and it works fine

dry silo Jan 21, 2021, 7:36 AM

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Hey peeps, how would i connect my unraid server to an active directory server that's hosted as a vm from the unraid server?

heavy coral Jan 21, 2021, 8:29 AM

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Hi. I need help. My PC doesn't give video signal when my new NIC is plugged in. It works fine without NIC. My NIC is HPE 764285-B21. It's FDR 40G server rated NIC, but my PC is just regular consumer gear. Any ideas?

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:41 AM

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dry silo Hey peeps, how would i connect my unraid server to an active directory server th...

if it is hosted on de pc that you wanne connect to the vm, it already is

thick minnow Jan 21, 2021, 8:43 AM

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I want to expand my wireless network and ran into a problem. I have a fiber input connected to the router from the router to the switch and then from the switch to all the rooms.

I want a wireless access-point where the router is now replace it if I have to. Another wireless access point after the switch. I want both wireless access point to be the same network ssid. Is there any product for that?

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:47 AM

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thick minnow I want to expand my wireless network and ran into a problem. I have a fiber inpu...

you mean an router with an accespoint build in?

dry silo Jan 21, 2021, 8:47 AM

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What do you mean @twin zealot

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twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:47 AM

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well you have an router, a normal one doesnt have wifi build in, most home ones doe

thick minnow Jan 21, 2021, 8:48 AM

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twin zealot you mean an router with an accespoint build in?

I want a single SSID and I thought in order to do that I had to replace my router?

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:48 AM

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does your router have wifi build in right now?

thick minnow Jan 21, 2021, 8:48 AM

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Yes I want to expand the Wifi coverage

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:51 AM

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yea, depending on your budget there are several solutions for that

thick minnow Jan 21, 2021, 8:51 AM

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$500

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:51 AM

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it mostly depens on what hardware you currently have (router and your wireless accespoint)

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:52 AM

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thick minnow $500

what are the networkspeeds you aim for

thick minnow Jan 21, 2021, 8:53 AM

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Wireless 150Mbit is sufficent

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:57 AM

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you have multiple options: with your budget you could turn off your router wifi (only the wifi part of your router) and buy a mesh system, depending on how big the area is, this is proberly the best solution

thick minnow Jan 21, 2021, 8:57 AM

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Is Ubiquiti a good solution?

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:58 AM

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yes, but a bit expensive

thick minnow Jan 21, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Mesh is not possible it have to be wired.

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A lot of steel in the walls

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 8:59 AM

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all those devices support wireless uplink and are mesh

📎 unknown.png

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only you need to host unifi controller software for those ap's

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but most of them can also be with a wired uplink

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:18 AM

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mesh is trash

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signal still needs to pass through walls and such

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:19 AM

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oh fuck the proffesional is there

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:19 AM

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@twin zealot lol im no professional

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software is my area of expertise, networking is a hobby

ocean pivot Jan 21, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Mesh is still better than a single router for bigger spaces

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:20 AM

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you mean access point

ocean pivot Jan 21, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Well yeah but mesh is easier for the general consumer

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:21 AM

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I guess if you can't lay ethernet

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I'd never recommend mesh to anyone

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I'd still favor powerline ethernet with an AP, over a mesh solution

ocean pivot Jan 21, 2021, 9:22 AM

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I've never had good luck with powerline, only get like 50mb/s

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:22 AM

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yeah that's expected

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but its more reliable than wireless

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:22 AM

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*in most cases

ocean pivot Jan 21, 2021, 9:23 AM

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I am debating getting moca adapters vs running ethernet

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:34 AM

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@jaunty talon https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_21_170

European Commission - European Commission

Press corner

Highlights, press releases and speeches

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You seen this? :o

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:34 AM

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yes

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:35 AM

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even within europe, companies like netflix still have unique offerings for each country

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which technically is against the law

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:35 AM

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nah it's not i think

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since that's licenses

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:36 AM

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Well, isn't that still considered a violation of the single market agreement?

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:36 AM

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not sure tbh

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:36 AM

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since that same 9 euros, gets you different content depending on your geographic location

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:36 AM

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then all sport livestreams and broadcast would be also

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:36 AM

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which is exactly what valve got fined for

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:36 AM

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and I doubt thats the case

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:37 AM

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https://ec.europa.eu/avservices/avs/files/video6/repository/prod/photo/store/store2/9/P048929-893450.jpg

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ohh

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I see. so keys are geo-locked

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:37 AM

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yep

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indeed

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many does that for lootboxes also as they're banned in some countries etc

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:38 AM

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loot boxes lol

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biggest failure of the gaming industry

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:38 AM

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no?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:38 AM

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i think so

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:38 AM

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the best thing that happened

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noneed to always pay 50$+ for each game

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:39 AM

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I think its rediculous that some $70 game still requires you to buy 'additional' content

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:39 AM

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now game developers can make free to play games and make money on microtranstactions

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:39 AM

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Then what was that $50 for?

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no no

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Look, I don't care about f2p games with microtransactions

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that's a fair business model

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:39 AM

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Yeah sure, there are companies that has both. Thats a failure

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:40 AM

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I'm talking about big AA titles

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:40 AM

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But that's where the lootboxes came from

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free to play

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:40 AM

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that after cashing in $70, require you to get their unique currency

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:40 AM

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AAA studios have just implemented them after that

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:40 AM

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@jaunty talon I remember the dark day on runescape

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when they introduced pay 2 win

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:41 AM

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well pay to win is broken.. who ever implements that breaks their game

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thats why it doesn't happen anymore more or less

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:41 AM

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after almost a decade of 'real world trading is bannable'

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they went to selling their own virtual currency

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@jaunty talon its rare these days for me to find games that are of genuine quality and worth the money

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last game that has made me feel like it was worth the money was Divinity Original sin 2

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was a $25 DRM-free game with multiplayer support

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:42 AM

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Borderlands 3

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was the latest for me

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:43 AM

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mh BL2 was great, how's 3 ?

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:43 AM

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very good

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:43 AM

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revisiting bl2 was so boring for some reason

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since i had already played through everything

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:43 AM

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I have 150h BL3 for 90$ (bought everything)

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totally worth it

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:43 AM

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I have around 200 hours on BL2

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:44 AM

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same here

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:44 AM

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and I got the pre-order season pass

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so pretty much, everything.

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@jaunty talon my favorite is still Tiny Tina's assault on dragon keep :D

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that DLC was god-tier

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:45 AM

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jaunty talon many does that for lootboxes also as they're banned in some countries etc

this is because its banned by law, not because of the company not choosing for equal products for eacht

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:45 AM

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KEKW Valve chose not to cooperate with the Commission. The Commission has therefore adopted a prohibition Decision against Valve under the ordinary antitrust procedure and has imposed a total fine of € 1 624 000 on Valve.

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Lol they didn't cooperate: double the fine boys!

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:45 AM

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haha nice

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its not like valve hasnt got that money tho

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:46 AM

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its plain and simple, cooperate or we take ur money

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Honestly, steam will be a big clusterfuck going forward 10 years from now

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 AM

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rather all platforms will be

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 AM

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We assume that their net worth will be around $8 billion, considering their previous year values

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 AM

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Like, I have over $2000 worth of games

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 AM

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tame carbon <:KEKW:670048864052445204> `Valve chose not to cooperate with the Commission. T...

how the f do you this shit

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 AM

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what if steam decides: nah we don't want these games on our store

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what happens to my library?

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 AM

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you own it

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they will have to supply a license for you

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:47 AM

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Yeah but without valve content servers?

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:48 AM

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if they remove it from steam that is

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and then its up to the game maker to supply either a installation media or another platform

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:48 AM

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thats your problem, even if it has multiplayer you will gonne have to host your own

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:48 AM

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@jaunty talon so there are provisions to make sure I can still access content I previously paid for? regardless of valve's decisions?

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:48 AM

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yep!

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:48 AM

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cool

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:48 AM

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it's in the publishing agreement with steam

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:49 AM

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twin zealot thats your problem, even if it has multiplayer you will gonne have to host your ...

not so much a problem

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:49 AM

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what

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you only have singleplayer games

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:49 AM

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this is why GOG is great. Single download and you can play multiplayer

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Nah

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@twin zealot games that require centralized matchmaking are the worst

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but games that allow you to do direct-IP are fine

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:50 AM

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tame carbon this is why GOG is great. Single download and you can play multiplayer

gog doesnt have csgo i think

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:50 AM

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nop

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:50 AM

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sins csgo is valve

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:50 AM

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i disagree with you here @tame carbon

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 AM

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@jaunty talon oh? I'm quite glad that games like Civilization can run with direct-IP

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 AM

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i think games that have both, but focuses on centralized matchmaking are better

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 AM

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means I can play multiplayer in an offline environment

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 AM

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best of both worlds

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:51 AM

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the enduser will have much better experience, since it's so clear that the quality of the gameserver is in the hand of the developer when its centralized

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meaning the game experience is at the best

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:52 AM

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@jaunty talon okay, but going forward, 10-20 years?

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:52 AM

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rather than someone hosting a game on their ADSL2 link

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I think thats still the case in 10 years

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:52 AM

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we can still play retro games from 20 years ago, can we say the same for current titles going forward 20 years?

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:52 AM

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even more so i think

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I mean when a game is dead its dead. :D

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:53 AM

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:/

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yeah its dead the moment the developer pulls the plug

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:53 AM

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yeah, but isnt that fine?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:53 AM

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I don't think so

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:53 AM

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that's the case with a lot other stuff in our world

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:53 AM

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because it devalues the product if there is no alternative

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:54 AM

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jaunty talon that's the case with a lot other stuff in our world

it would be nice if you can continu even tho the developer pulls the plug

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:54 AM

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even if not officially supported

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they should at least make server binaries available

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:54 AM

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^^

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:54 AM

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well sure, but if its a online game you buy into..

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:54 AM

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yeah like WoW is subscription based

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that is outside of the scope of this discussion, I Feel

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:55 AM

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why is that different?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:55 AM

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no pay, no play

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:55 AM

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jaunty talon why is that different?

that has it own conditions, because the developer cant pull the plug as long as you pay

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:55 AM

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ah from that point of view sure

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:55 AM

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And you don't get a license for the game, merely access to the game

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:55 AM

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but then I guess we should never make free to play games? :D

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:56 AM

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@jaunty talon that's different.

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:56 AM

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How?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:56 AM

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You never invest into it

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:57 AM

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As soon as you buy one skin in a f2p you own something

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:57 AM

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mh

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:57 AM

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or even, get one skin

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:57 AM

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I shudder to look at my league of legends account

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:57 AM

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jaunty talon or even, get one skin

but the skin in that case is free, so that doesnt matter

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:57 AM

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jaunty talon As soon as you buy one skin in a f2p you own something

this case i kind of get

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:57 AM

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not if you get it from a friend

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who have paid for it

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:58 AM

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@jaunty talon I'm more aiming towards what was once a physical copy, is now a virtual key

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 9:58 AM

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twin zealot this case i kind of get

yea but than its this

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 9:58 AM

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jaunty talon not if you get it from a friend

your friend owns you now

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Like my copy of skyrim, requires steam to be installed

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Its a physical copy

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 9:58 AM

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tame carbon Its a physical copy

bamboozled

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 9:58 AM

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@tame carbon i get what youre aiming at :)

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 9:58 AM

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I remember my friend buying Assassin creed physical only to find that it's a code to download

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pepeLAUGH

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:59 AM

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@jaunty talon all these DRM/cloud based games rely on the underlying infrastructure to be up and running

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and this means, someone, somewhere has to maintain it

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 9:59 AM

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tame carbon and this means, someone, somewhere has to maintain it

i hate that you don't own games anymore

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 9:59 AM

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and that kind of service does not run for all eternity

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:00 AM

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techinically you lease it from them

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so if steam dies, say goodbye to the library

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i hate that

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That's why I buy my games in switch with physical cartridges

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:00 AM

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@unborn sluice https://i.imgur.com/TIqnYYJ.png

Imgur

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Interesting

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I joined in the convo late

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lel

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:01 AM

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@unborn sluice https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_21_170

European Commission - European Commission

Press corner

Highlights, press releases and speeches

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Steam drm remover

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monkaHmm

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:01 AM

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this was the article behind this discussion

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:01 AM

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I haven't seen an SJW saying geo-blocking as racist

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:02 AM

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geoblocking within a single digital market is against EU law

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Yea, EU should be considered as one entity right

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(basically)

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Its a single market

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:02 AM

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-uk

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:02 AM

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twin zealot -uk

no

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 AM

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UK have their island

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 AM

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hopefully we don't steer into brexit again

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 AM

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wat

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 AM

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yes

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 AM

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no

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:03 AM

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steer into brexit again?

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what do you mean, brexit happened

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its a fact

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and the brits are idiots for doing so

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:04 AM

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what

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:04 AM

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UK is no longer part of the European union

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 10:04 AM

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yes theyre

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for like X months

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or did that expire 2021?

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:05 AM

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looks like we steered into brexit anyway

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:05 AM

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@jaunty talon They are out

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Didn't you see the news reports of truckers stuck at the border around christmas?

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 10:05 AM

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There was a freeze period

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:05 AM

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UK isn't OK for EU anymore

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:05 AM

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@jaunty talon yeah which was hastened because of the pandemic

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 AM

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there out, only there is an agreement

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 AM

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@jaunty talon they are currently in the transition period

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 AM

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about transport and shit

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 AM

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This is would always be a problem with organisations, when people [or entity] leave they are seen as traitors

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 AM

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where they are considered to not be part of the EU legislation process

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but still have to follow its laws

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until they finalize the transition

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but technically, the UK has already left

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 AM

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yes, and there economy will die because of that

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 AM

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Since Junuary 2020 or something

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The UK left the EU at the end of 31 January 2020 CET (11 p.m. GMT). This began a transition period that ended on 31 December 2020 CET (11 p.m. GMT), during which the UK and EU negotiated their future relationship.[16] During the transition, the UK remained subject to EU law and remained part of the EU customs union and single market. However, it was no longer part of the EU's political bodies or institutions

jaunty talon Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 AM

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cool

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 AM

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@jaunty talon I wouldn't call it cool

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everyday products in the UK have gotten about 3x as expensive

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 AM

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so after the dec 31, UK would have their own currency again?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 AM

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like toilet paper, food and such

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 AM

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unborn sluice so after the dec 31, UK would have their own currency again?

they always had

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 AM

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tame carbon like toilet paper, food and such

matter of importance in order

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 AM

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@unborn sluice UK has always had their own currency

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 AM

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(don't shoot me for that joke)

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:10 AM

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@unborn sluice https://i.imgur.com/TIHpTwL.png

Imgur

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this drop in value is a direct result of brexit

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 AM

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EU was supposed to create unity

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but the racism against uk citizens says otherwise

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brilliant mate

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 AM

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?

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 AM

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unborn sluice but the racism against uk citizens says otherwise

SHOW PROOF OF RACISM

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 AM

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against UK citizens?

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pretty sure its other way around

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:15 AM

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unborn sluice EU was supposed to create unity

they did there best, but when someone leaves your leaving unity

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:15 AM

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EU model is flawed

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you cannot unite countries under a common currency but leave their economic policies seperate

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but I dont want to get muted, so I'm leaving this debate now :)

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:16 AM

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tame carbon you cannot unite countries under a common currency but leave their economic poli...

they even didnt unite under a common currency, at least 2 currencies

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:17 AM

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@twin zealot I'm more hinting at what happened in greece

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:17 AM

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well, greece hase always been greece

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:17 AM

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no?

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:17 AM

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you cant build hotels there if there trees

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:17 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_government-debt_crisis

Greek government-debt crisis

The Greek government-debt crisis was the sovereign debt crisis faced by Greece in the aftermath of the financial crisis of 2007–08. Widely known in the country as The Crisis (Greek: Η Κρίση), it reached the populace as a series of sudden reforms and austerity measures that led to impoverishment and loss of income and property, as well as a small...

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This has caused an EU wide recession

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:18 AM

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so they first burn down threes at night and next day build a hotel there

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:18 AM

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its so bad that they called it "The Crisis"

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corrupt officials, broken tax system

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and this devalued the euro significantly

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:19 AM

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shit happens

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althoug this was a little more than some shit

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:19 AM

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@twin zealot you know what 'staatschuld' is?

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Greek_debt_and_EU_average_since_1977.png

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:19 AM

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yes of course

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:19 AM

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150% is... you are very much broke

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 AM

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yea, nl tries to stay under 50%

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wasnt it

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Used to be below 50%

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its now up to 60%~

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 AM

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because of covid

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 AM

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yep

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though we can make economic recovery quite quickly

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@twin zealot meanwhile

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https://i.imgur.com/dQMh0Bu.png

Imgur

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I am preparing myself for next week

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:22 AM

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ah yes routers and switches

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:23 AM

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een ondervraging serieus

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:23 AM

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unborn sluice ah yes routers and switches

ah yes someone calling racism without proof

twin zealot Jan 21, 2021, 10:24 AM

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unborn sluice but the racism against uk citizens says otherwise

.

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 10:39 AM

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@unborn sluice racism was one (not the) reasons for brexit

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when the whole refugee crisis began

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nobody wanted to accept syrian refugees

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including the UK

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 10:41 AM

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tame carbon <@!349203120082911242> racism was one (not *the*) reasons for brexit

agreee

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 11:37 AM

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I need help setting up a router and local NAS, can someone help me?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 11:40 AM

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whats up

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 11:44 AM

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whats down

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:01 PM

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i need help with setting up a router, first of all i want to connect it to a wifi hotspot

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i have no ISP

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im stuck with all the wifi settings lol

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do i need a static or dynamic ip?

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:02 PM

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depends

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generally youd want dynamic

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:03 PM

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is dynamic a posh way of saying do it for me lol

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:03 PM

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dynamic means your ip changes when it reboots

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thats what most are

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:03 PM

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ahhh

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:04 PM

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static means its always the same, thats used for servers normally

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:04 PM

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would that be used for my NAS

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:04 PM

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yeah

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:05 PM

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hmmm

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ok

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so in connecting to a wifi hotspot

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im guessing my phone doesnt change ip

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im just wondering if im going about this all wrong lol

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:06 PM

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your nas has a static ip you use to cnnect to it every time, but your pc and things are fine as dynamic

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becuase your router still recognises them and connects as it should

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:07 PM

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does it matter if they are on different 192.168's?

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my nas is on 192.168.1.1 and my router is on 40.4

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:08 PM

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in the router config you can see a list of connected devices, the nas should be static, but your pc and phones are fine on dynamic

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yeah thats normal

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:08 PM

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@long pecan can i PM you?

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:08 PM

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honestly im not the best guy to ask

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ive set up a file server once before

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thats all i k now

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

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ok thats cool mate 🙂 thanks for the honesty lol

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

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but just set your nas as static it should work

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

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ok thanks mate

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

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you know how to add it to windows right

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

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errrr, add network drive?

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

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yeah

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

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yeah i know that

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

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ok cool

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:10 PM

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so that should make it come up in windows

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sorry im not tech sav y lol

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:14 PM

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just remember to make sure you include the path to the root file location

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not just the ip

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:14 PM

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oh ok

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:14 PM

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for exa,ple 192.168.1.1/SERVER

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:14 PM

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ah

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:14 PM

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that confused me when i set mine up

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:15 PM

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so the name of the root folder

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:15 PM

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yeah

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:15 PM

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that is where ive been going wrong

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i just expected to put a password in and done

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:15 PM

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i set mine up on a raspi tho

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so itll be differtant for a nas

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:16 PM

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not sure what OS its using, it has no mouse input or anything

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just a closed box with two ethernet connections

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:16 PM

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file servers normally run linux

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:16 PM

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ah ok

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:17 PM

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but youl have to check

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:17 PM

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thanks for the help mate

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:17 PM

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np

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:17 PM

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been a massive help dude 🙂

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 12:17 PM

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welcome

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:18 PM

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@unborn sluice oh hello

long pecan Jan 21, 2021, 12:18 PM

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if you need any help you can drop a ping

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:18 PM

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ping shaun!

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will do 😛

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:23 PM

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@minor girder what kind of NAS do you have?

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First thing you have to do is make sure your NAS gets a static IP within your local network

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After that you can start making shares on your NAS

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Like a share named music

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would be available under: \\192.168.88.10\music (ofcourse IP would be different)

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In windows you can map ^ this to a network drive

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https://i.imgur.com/lXC669S.png

Imgur

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:26 PM

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i think im getting confused with setting up to a hotspot atmo

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does that define my IP

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:26 PM

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Your router should handle all of that

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all computers in your local network get their configuration from the router

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:27 PM

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because i reset it, and it doesnt connect to my hotspot, then when i do i cant connect unless i have my ethernet plugged in

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:27 PM

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hotspot?

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I thought you were setting up a NAS

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:27 PM

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ombile hotspot

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oh yeah i was

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:27 PM

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@minor girder does the device come with ethernet ports?

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like, does it have more than one LAN port?

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:28 PM

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but i think the IP changes on my router when i connect to my hotspot

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it has 2

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:28 PM

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can you perhaps send a photograph of the device?

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specifically, the ports it has

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want to see what they are labeled as

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:29 PM

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sure

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give me a sec im trying to log in on my mobile

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i forgot my password of discord.... go figure

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📎 20210121_123419.jpg 📎 20210121_123415.jpg

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Its not turned on yet

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my router is an archer 1600 i think

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:35 PM

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mh

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@minor girder well, first thing you have to do

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is get into the router config

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:35 PM

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i can do that 🙂 one sec

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:35 PM

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so we can configure the DHCP server to reserve an IP for your NAS

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DHCP is the mechanism/protocol that is normally used to automatically configure network devices

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like when you connect to wifi, DHCP gives you an address, and a route to the internet

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Just linking this in passing reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol

Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol

The Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) is a network management protocol used on Internet Protocol (IP) networks, whereby a DHCP server dynamically assigns an IP address and other network configuration parameters to each device on the network, so they can communicate with other IP networks. A DHCP server enables computers to request IP ad...

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:37 PM

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ok so i will lose internet on my PC so we can configure this shiiz

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:37 PM

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how so?

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don't you get your internet through your tplink router?

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:37 PM

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im guessing you want me to connect to my router

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i have no ISP

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:37 PM

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how are you even connected now?

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you have a mobile hotspot -> laptop ?

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:37 PM

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i use a mobile to get internet

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 PM

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right... and you are connected with what, wifi?

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 PM

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wifi > phone

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 PM

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ok, does this hotspot device have an ethernet port too?

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 PM

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its a phone lol

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 PM

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wait

minor girder Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 PM

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no ethernet

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can i PM you

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 12:38 PM

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you are tethering from your phone

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sure

lean pebble Jan 21, 2021, 1:10 PM

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My net is back today morning

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😅

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 1:28 PM

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lean pebble My net is back today morning

is it better then before?

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 1:38 PM

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I am currently running a Windows 10 Pro machine with a shared file as my NAS. Currently, I am planning for a server upgrade in approximately two years. I want a Plex Media Server for streaming music on my phone (I wanna get rid of Spotify) and watching movies/series on my PC. There will most likely only two video streams running on it simultaneously (unless I magically found a family in that time lol). I would want to listen to my music when I am going outside as well. Considering the Plex Media Server will be connected to the internet in order to listen to my stuff, I have concerns about my NAS which I want running on the same machine. I don't need my data on the go, so should I just go with another low powered machine instead of running it on the Plex machine?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 1:52 PM

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@drowsy sand you can get a low power ryzen system and run plex on that

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I have one of those in my attic as a server

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 1:53 PM

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I have stuff laying around, the question is purely on the security side of things 😄

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 1:53 PM

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@drowsy sand I wouldn't expose network shares to the internet

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neither would I expose any sort of webpanel to the internet

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 1:53 PM

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Yeah, that was my concern.

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 1:54 PM

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if you do want this on the go

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you'll have to consider a VPN

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I have an l2tp server on my router here at home

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so when I am out the house, my phone and laptop still get a local IP from home

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 1:54 PM

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Neat.

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So Intranet for my NAS (Got a Celeron G3900 and an AMD A4-4000 for that) and then a Plex Server (Ryzen 2600) with a VPN?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 1:56 PM

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VPN would be network wide

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but it makes sure that traffic is encrypted, and only authenticated users can use it

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 1:56 PM

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PIA incoming 😄

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 1:56 PM

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no

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 1:56 PM

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it's not that the PLEX server has a vpn, you are running a VPN yoursefl

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 1:56 PM

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thats not the same

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 1:56 PM

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@drowsy sand

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 1:57 PM

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to hell with those VPN providers

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they ruin the terminology

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@drowsy sand PIA wouldnt help you in this situation

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since they provide a VPN service, but in the scenario that i described, you yourself host the VPN service

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Then I gotta look into that topic in the meantime. What OS should I run the Plex Server? Security is one benefit from switching from Windows but are there other reasons?

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Linux

cedar igloo Jan 21, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Linux updates without needing reboots

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:00 PM

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linux distro

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I'd pick ubuntu server, easiest to find help for online

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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cedar igloo Linux updates without needing reboots

not all the time, but most of the time

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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I have heard great stuff about Unraid and Proxmox and all that

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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only kernel upgrades require a reboot

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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proxmox is just for virtulization

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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@drowsy sand those are all linux distros

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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unraid is eh

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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unraid is KEKW

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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I know but I havent dealt with those so I wanted to know 😄

cedar igloo Jan 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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is LivePatch available on Ubuntu server?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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what is that??

cedar igloo Jan 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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kernel patches without rebooting

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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I have heard about that some support it

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But thats it

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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it seems tp be canicol only thing?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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lol its a paid service

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nty

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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yeah

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free for 3 machines

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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so

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useless basically?

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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why is it paid though?

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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tame carbon useless basically?

not for business

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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yeah but useless for home & hobby

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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yeah

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kinda

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free for 3 machines

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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idk, I never had to reboot my servers lol

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some machines I have are at 500 days uptime

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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FreeNAS for my NAS or any other reccomendations?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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@drowsy sand you can use any linux distro

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FreeNAS isnt linux

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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FreeNAS, now it's TrueNAS is pretty good

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it uses ZFS

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Yeah its stinking annoying thats what it is

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because bsd

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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eh, the web gui is good for newbies

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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true

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@drowsy sand all you need to make network shares is samba

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this can run on any linux install

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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I don't think I would need ZFS. Basic Raid 1

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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if you value your data use ZFS

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:06 PM

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I used samba to connect Manjaro to my Windows Share

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:06 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba_(software)

Samba (software)

Samba is a free software re-implementation of the SMB networking protocol, and was originally developed by Andrew Tridgell. Samba provides file and print services for various Microsoft Windows clients and can integrate with a Microsoft Windows Server domain, either as a Domain Controller (DC) or as a domain member. As of version 4, it supports A...

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yeah, well smbd can also provide network shares

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this is what i use on my debian install to provide network shares

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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drowsy sand I don't think I would need ZFS. Basic Raid 1

you can use zfs MIRROR

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which is basically raid1

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but with ZFS

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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you should use either ZFS or btrfs

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regular raid 1 will not protect your from data corruption

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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zfs provides integrity checking

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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i havent read much into zfs (just heard about it here and there), whats the big benefit?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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integrity checking

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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which is? :d

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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checking if the data isnt corrupted?

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raid 1 happily spits out wrong data

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if the drive doesnt tell the controller that there's a fault

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btrfs and zfs verify the data that they return

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:09 PM

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and is able to check the health of a disk but checking how much data is corrupt, gives more data than just SMART

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https://itsfoss.com/what-is-zfs/

It's FOSS

What is ZFS? Why People Use ZFS? [Explained for Beginners]

What is ZFS and why is it so popular among experienced users? Let's have a look at the history of ZFS and its features and advantages over other filesystems.

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:09 PM

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I have my NAS here with BTRFS raid1

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https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Using_Btrfs_with_Multiple_Devices#Current_status

Using Btrfs with Multiple Devices

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with encryption

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Difference between ZFS and BTRFS?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:10 PM

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btrfs is a CoW filesystem

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy-on-write

Copy-on-write

Copy-on-write (COW), sometimes referred to as implicit sharing or shadowing, is a resource-management technique used in computer programming to efficiently implement a "duplicate" or "copy" operation on modifiable resources. If a resource is duplicated but not modified, it is not necessary to create a new resource; the resource can be shared bet...

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:10 PM

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isn't ZFS also copy on write?

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:10 PM

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it might be

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https://i0.wp.com/itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/zfs-overview.png?resize=438%2C329&ssl=1

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:10 PM

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zfs is more proven too

tame carbon Jan 21, 2021, 2:10 PM

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ZFS defines pools for VDEVs

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something that btrfs doesnt have

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ZFS scales much better, even across multiple servers

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:12 PM

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one drawback of ZFS is that it can't scale easily on a small scale, you can't put one more drive in, you need to design in it a way so you would add like 5 drives at a time

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:12 PM

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I won't need much, 2TB max.

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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then 2 2tb drives in like ZFS Mirror

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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The bulk of my data is movies/pictures/music, which will reside on the Plex Server with some kind of RAID

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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peak cloak then 2 2tb drives in like ZFS Mirror

Thats what I had in mind, yes.

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:13 PM

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you would still want to have ZFS on the plex server, no?

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as you have more and more drives, the % of parity gets less

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:14 PM

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2TB is a LOT for my use. I think I only have like 200GB of data without movies/pictures. So 2TB will last a loooong time and adding 2x2TB wont break the bank either.

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:15 PM

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peak cloak you would still want to have ZFS on the plex server, no?

Yeah, you guys made me like ZFS lol. I can't really predict the amount of space I would need for the Plex Server.

peak cloak Jan 21, 2021, 2:16 PM

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someone in another server I'm in used to work on ZFS

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Should I implement the NAS with the switch that connects all my devices to the internet? Or would it be better/possible if I use a connection with my PC -> Switch/Cable -> NAS ?

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(Will be using a Linux PC for surfing/working and a Windows machine for gaming)

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 2:32 PM

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drowsy sand Should I implement the NAS with the switch that connects all my devices to the i...

uhh what

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nas -> switch -> pc

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what's the other option

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Internetplug -> Router -> Switch -> OfficePC/GamingPC/Plex Server/NAS/...

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or

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Internetplug -> Router -> Switch -> Devices/OfficePC <- Switch < - NAS

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Kinda seperating the NAS from the Router and installing DHCP on it.

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Or fixed IP's

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Or is that a stupid thought?

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 2:35 PM

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I mean why would you want that

cedar igloo Jan 21, 2021, 2:35 PM

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the first option is best id say

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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drowsy sand Or is that a stupid thought?

we first want to know your reason why

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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unborn sluice I mean why would you want that

Security by not connecting to the internet.

unborn sluice Jan 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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drowsy sand Security by not connecting to the internet.

can I introduce you to vlans

drowsy sand Jan 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Please do