#networking

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tall pagoda
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Fast delivery often ordered before 23:59 means delivery tomorrow

desert ferry
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found this wall AP, but it's cheaper to buy almost 3 "regular" SOHO routers for price of a single one 😦

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gonna check mikrotik now maybe

peak cloak
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they have this

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bit expensive for your use case

desert ferry
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hm, it's cheaper here than those TPlinks from earlier

little schooner
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@short oriole looks like Bonjour

thick minnow
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Is there any way I could portforward like for example a mc server without leaking my ip

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Is there any mask you can use to hide it?

waxen saddle
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VPN service that allows that sort of thing. LTT also uses some kind of masking service for their MC server. No idea what it is called though.

peak cloak
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@thick minnow a reverse proxy

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or ip tunnel

lean pebble
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Cloudflare let you protect your Minecraft server to, impreva does it as well.

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Java edition only because it's running on tcp ports not like bedrock

versed nebula
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Does ltt still trust PIA?

burnt epoch
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PIA was literally a sponsor on the WAN show yesterday, so I’d assume yes

versed nebula
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Ok

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Because i was wondering if i’d renew my suscription

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Because of the merger in 2019

waxen scroll
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@clear igloo do YOU trust PIA or other VPNs that use lies in their marketing that say you need a VPN to protect bank info, etc over public networks?

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If you access the internet through public wifi hotspots, shared internet routers, or even through your very own provider, your data, files and privacy may be at risk.

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my files? uhhh

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pretty sure most of the net is https, file xfers are encrypted, etc

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just last week i logged into my bank on a open hotel wifi network. 0 concern.

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If you're not using it for work, don't get a VPN unless you're a pirate. Simple as that. You dont need it.

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This is of course assuming you're not bypassing a state sponsored censorship mechanism

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which most people here arent

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this is coming from a person who uses fiber taps at work to record peoples traffic, so take it for what its worth lafr_Smile

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@hollow marlin sup?

waxen saddle
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I 100% back you up.

waxen scroll
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@waxen saddle I'd forgive blobs parents if they use a VPN

tall pagoda
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T-Mobile is pure and will be a joke

versed nebula
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So what vpn should i suscribe to?

peak cloak
versed nebula
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Torrent

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And bbc player

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I just dont know who to trust anymore

little schooner
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Pia has been fine for me

versed nebula
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Im trying surfshark but they dont have port fowarding

flat slate
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PIA works well for me

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pretty reliable, fast and cheap

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and i use it for torrenting constantly

royal bane
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Does anyone know how to keep my network card from ever updating drivers automaticly?

elder bramble
peak cloak
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nice

nocturne harness
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I just read about IPv4 and IPv6 parsing

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Most cursed thing I’ve read in a long time

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What does:
1.1
1:2:3:4:5:6:77.77.88.88
::
3232271615
1::1.2.3.4
all have in common? Apparently all are valid IP addresses, according to BSD 4.2, which the textual IP standard used as the reference for textual addresses (since the original IPv4 spec didn’t cover text representation)

daring relic
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Quick question just to make sure. You need a modem for a router to work, right?

unborn sluice
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Technically, no

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But for most homes, yes you need the modem to access the internet

daring relic
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Coax cable for typical internet. My sister doesn't use a TV box or a landline, so she has a rental in the basement.

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Which is away from everything, but anywho...

spice heart
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When comming 40gbe network video ?

peak cloak
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@spice heart huh?

versed nebula
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damn, im not sure i want to trust PIA again

unborn sluice
versed nebula
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yeah

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linus still trusts them

peak cloak
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buy a vps and make your own vpn

versed nebula
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it still wouldn't work with torrent

peak cloak
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I mean, get one in Switzerland

versed nebula
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it doesn't have port forwarding

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protonvpn

unborn sluice
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you would port forward your torrent?

peak cloak
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anyone familiar with rsync and/or rclone. I'm using the rclone sync command and according to the docs, it should not upload already uploaded files, however it's still doing that. Am I missing something?

little schooner
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On that page, it doesn't say which method to use to determine whether it syncs by md5 or date modified

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Very strange

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Looks powerful

unborn sluice
peak cloak
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still

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I could use -max-age which worked

unborn sluice
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Intersting, my rclone sync does what it supposed to do

peak cloak
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I'm going to use rclone mount for now

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it's weird, because I used it before and it worked

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now when I set it up I noticed that it was uploading 8gb of files each night

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hmm rclone mount works kinda, but the whole empty directory thing could mess things up

unborn sluice
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Yea but I expect it to work because of md5

peak cloak
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same, idk what the problem is

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maybe outdated version in the ubuntu repo?

unborn sluice
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still, the md5 shouldn't change between versions

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if it does, file integrity might be fucked

peak cloak
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yeah

idle idol
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Could anyone see any use in running a link aggregation from my main switch to my router?

unborn sluice
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if you don't know why you need it, you probably don't

idle idol
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words to live by.. need to stop messing with things that work already.

unborn sluice
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need to stop messing
You need to continue to be curious that's all

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even if you don't need it, what the heck, go for it

stoic shore
# daring relic Quick question just to make sure. You need a modem for a router to work, right?

Modem & router have nothing to do directly with each other...
The modem converts signal from one standard to another - F.ex from cable TV signals to Network Ethernet TCP/IP. Originally its a modulator/demodulator
The router controls (routes) the traffic on certain network types (mostly Ethernet TCP/IP)

Many routers have built-in modems that convert signals without you needing to worry about it.

peak cloak
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Also be careful with routers that have coax port. That may just be a moca port, not a dociss (or other coax protocol) port

fervent brook
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sweet, Cat5e

dusty osprey
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ethernet isnt one of them

waxen saddle
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Ubiquiti logic: If it’s wired, the experience is 90%. If wireless, 100%.

dusty osprey
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wha-

waxen saddle
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Exactly

dusty osprey
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lel. Ubiquti

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overpriced shit

fervent brook
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@dusty osprey Did you just say Ethernet isn't a coaxial protocol?

dusty osprey
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uhhh

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ok im gonna be honest i REALLY dont know

little schooner
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unifi is a let down

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in their software department.

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instead of going at silicon-valley pace to release things, they should take more time to test and refine.

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its okay to be the last one to finish the race sometimes ya know?

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they should take note.

dusty osprey
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its like overpriced shit that has nice UI on it

little schooner
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i agree the switches and stuff are pricey

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the aps are just about average compared to engenius

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the unifi line of switches cost the most i see

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and not much feature

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compared to their edge line

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feature parity is awful when they dont match

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expecting one thing to exist on another

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and then find its not there?

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terrible.

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its like the differences between leggings and cargo pants. They both do the same core functions but one looks nicer than the other. Then, when you have a smartphone and try to put it in the leggings, you realize there are no pockets. but thats the basic function of pants!

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angry that its not there.

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but looks nicer? like unifi software UI

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not a fan.

dusty osprey
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mm pretti much

fervent brook
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I make it a point never to buy from brands that never produced am ethernet hub

waxen saddle
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A hub? The obsolete network hardware?

dusty osprey
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hnmmmmm

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i want a hub

fervent brook
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I saw a 24 port hub at goodwill

dusty osprey
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24 port hub

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wow

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that would be so unefficent

fervent brook
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just asking for collisions

little schooner
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collisions happen often in wifi

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we are still using hub tech

clear igloo
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Back in MY day we had token ring and we liked it that way!

little schooner
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cant say ive ever seen token ring in person

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just the idea

clear igloo
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I saw one, once

little schooner
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a picture moment for sure.

dusty osprey
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whats a token ring

clear igloo
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Yah, it was sitting in the back of a lab powered off like an old relic 😛

little schooner
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@dusty osprey its like passing the ball to each person. When you have the ball, you can talk (network)

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if you dont have the ball, not your turn.

dusty osprey
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oh how does that work with networking exactly 😛

clear igloo
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You literally pass a token around

fervent brook
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the ball just cycles all the computers

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and when you get the ball, any info that has you as a destination is given to you, and if you need to send info you add it to the ball

clear igloo
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Yup, very inefficient but it was how things used to be done a long time ago

little schooner
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then, people got smarter and invented the switch

clear igloo
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the hub, eventually the switch 😄

fervent brook
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first the bridge

little schooner
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ohh right

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poor hub

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how could i forget you

fervent brook
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Remember that time someone used a MIDI port for networking?

plain stirrup
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I've been in networking in one form or another since 1998 and I've seen ONE token ring network, and that was in 1998 🙂

fervent brook
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I dont think ive seen anything earlier than just a switch based network with some kind of hdcp-based server

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dhcp

peak cloak
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I'm so young, I started with switches, never seen a hub physically

fervent brook
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if you have two computers with dial up modems, could you have the computers set up to be able to send eachother data by dialing eachother?

dusty osprey
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it was a tplink, or dlink, i remmeber as the model i put it was a hub and not a switch

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and it was really portablly tiny

little schooner
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i had to use a laptop for my dad's home internet for a few weeks because his old modem didn't support google's new QUIC transport protocol

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literally spin up pfsense on a laptop so fast

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it started to work instantly

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i love how anything that computes can be a router

dusty osprey
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mm

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its a simple task 😛

fervent brook
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what kind of router do you use? I hate cordless routers

little schooner
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my dad has ER-X too

peak cloak
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plan on getting the Hex-S one day

dusty osprey
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i never begged them, i should try, it seems affordable but im thinking do I really need it. (Hex-S)

fervent brook
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Right now im using a EA-6900. I have an Edge3, but i never use it

little schooner
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@dusty osprey my dad needed one because of quic. thats a good example of need vs want.

fervent brook
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i had a chance to buy a 7500, but it was 20 dollars and needed antenae

peak cloak
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the er-x is pretty alright, but it's becoming a bottleneck for me now (with ipv6)

fervent brook
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also, dont google "cordless router"

peak cloak
little schooner
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whats the er-x limitations for ipv6

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no offloading?

peak cloak
little schooner
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hm

waxen scroll
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@clear igloo haiii

little schooner
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@hollow marlin i dont like when the software allows incompatible setting combinations

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edgerouter is an offender of this very thing with cli

hollow marlin
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Thats par for the course in most equipment

waxen scroll
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@hollow marlin ping ping if you dont have python 🚀 do it in 2020 you're dead ☠️ in this industry 🏭

unborn sluice
peak cloak
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Anyone know of a wall plate mounted poe ethernet switch?

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Something like this, but a switch

hollow marlin
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@waxen scroll I'll learn python when I'm demoted to assigning VLANs to ports and pulling configs 💩

little schooner
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@waxen scroll if powershell was a thing to setup switches and routers, Ill like to carry that knowledge over

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I know we have one appliance that requires python in order to do batch operations like reseting user accounts or deleting classes but keep users

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I'd learn it to use it in that case

tribal ferry
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I'm in a little bit of a dilemma right now.

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I'm planning out a future upgrade to my newly installed UniFi system involving 10G home networking.

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My main problem area is the crawlspace.

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The crawlspace has no access to power without me running a cable into my attic somewhere and causing a mess.

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I don't seem to be able to find any switches than can be powered by 10G Ethernet.

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The CRS305-1G-4S+IN, the main switch used for 10G distribution in this setup, can be POE powered. But, only by 1G Ethernet.

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aka you only have a 10g link between devices on the switch and it would be limited to 1g if it had to travel to another part of the network

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So, I'm trying to find a 10G switch than can be powered by 10G LAN.

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I'm guessing it would be 802.3bt power.

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Either Ethernet or SFP+ outputs are fine, they're going to be adapted into Ethernet anyway. Whichever is cheaper.

junior pond
tribal ferry
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Forgot to mention, there needs to be a POE output on the switch.

clear igloo
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So you want PoE pass-through and 10G on a single switch?

tribal ferry
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Well, yes.

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A switch that can be 10G POE powered and pass through 1G 802.3af for my nanoHD.

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The nanoHD does not have a 10G port so it can pass through either 1 or 10G.

peak cloak
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@tribal ferry idk how well this would work but 10G-Ethernet output -> POE injector -> Cabling -> Poe Uninjector (i forgot the exact name) -> Switch

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I can find 10 gig poe injectors, but not 10 gig poe splitters

tribal ferry
tribal ferry
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what I'm looking for is this

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but with a 10g poe in

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this one only has 1g poe in

peak cloak
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one for poe

tribal ferry
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actually that wouldn't even work

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i need to have a switch that is powered by poe and is 10g capable in and out

peak cloak
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what I can find are really expensive industrial ones

tribal ferry
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for fiber transmission lines

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yeah

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might just be best for me to run the dc power line

peak cloak
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poe is a higher voltage

tribal ferry
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then what would you recommend doing?

peak cloak
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tbh I would run ethernet just for POE

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@tribal ferry looks like it can accept 12-57 volts

tribal ferry
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I can't though, since this needs to be 10GB

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I already have an ethernet cable there

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cat 6a

peak cloak
tribal ferry
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what's the benefit of running another cable?

outer lance
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I have a question

peak cloak
tribal ferry
peak cloak
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for the switch

tribal ferry
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i need a 10gb switch

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the solution i'm trying to solve is not running a dc power cable for one

peak cloak
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yeah the mtik switch

peak cloak
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the 10gb one is poe

tribal ferry
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yes

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the poe port is 1gbps

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it's not 10gb

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you only have a 10g link between devices on the switch and it would be limited to 1g if it had to travel to another part of the network

peak cloak
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yeah ik

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so 2 cables

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one poe (for powering the device)

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one 10gig

tribal ferry
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ah

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i see what you mean

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it would be a big pain though after running this one

peak cloak
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true

tribal ferry
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hm

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i'll look around in my crawlspace later this week and see where the closest plug is

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and in my attic

peak cloak
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find an outlet and place a poe injector

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idk, but at that point you could just run dc

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hmm

tribal ferry
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yeah

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there's a plug close to the crawlspace opening

peak cloak
tribal ferry
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i only use that part of the attic for "long-term" storage

peak cloak
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just make sure that wire is a high enough guage

tribal ferry
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would be fine to just run an extension cord there

peak cloak
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or yeah you could just run an ac extension cord

tribal ferry
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i'd probably just plug it into an extension cord rather than extending the dc directly

peak cloak
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yeah

outer lance
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Does anyone here know about routers or modems

tribal ferry
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i still have to investigate the financials of this

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since it would be around the cost of the system i just installed

outer lance
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Or other isp stuff

tribal ferry
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i did get the system installed i was talking about and asking you questions a few weeks ago and it's been working good

tribal ferry
tribal ferry
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network cabinet is very sexy 👌

peak cloak
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I just removed an ugly cable going from one side of the hallway to the other as I installed an ethernet outlet on an already existing cable

tribal ferry
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nice

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yeah wall jacks are always best

peak cloak
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I almost had a heart-attack as when I tested the cable to make sure it was good, and it showed two pairs were not working

tribal ferry
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that's one of the objectives of the setup in the pictures

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how did you test it?

peak cloak
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but it turned out the tester was broken

tribal ferry
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aren't the cable testers pricey?

peak cloak
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certifiers are

outer lance
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Ok so

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do i need to upgrade my modem if i get a good router

peak cloak
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Only if your modem won't support the speeds you get from your ISP

outer lance
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I get 400 mgbps

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Advertised

peak cloak
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how?

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dociss (coax)?

outer lance
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But updtairs and 100 ft accross my house its 5

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because bad isp router

thorny vector
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Is that over wifi?

outer lance
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So do i need to replace both

peak cloak
outer lance
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or can i just replace the router

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cant run ethernt

peak cloak
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no, like take a computer and plug it in

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just for a speed test

outer lance
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I dont have ether ports over my houise

peak cloak
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you have a router? Router has ethernet ports

outer lance
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its 400 over wireless

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near the router

peak cloak
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ok, then it's fine

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modem is working

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no need to replace modem

outer lance
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So i just need to replace my router

peak cloak
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modem just converts dociss (or other cable protocol) to ethernet, router does routing stuff and NAT and firewall

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yeah

outer lance
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sixk

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thnk you

thorny vector
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Sounds like you just need to extend the wifi signal if you have good speeds near the router

tribal ferry
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fair price

peak cloak
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wifi extenders...

feral frigate
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Mesh is okay. Extenders are butt.

thorny vector
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Meh. Extenders are cheaper, especially if you just need a one off

outer lance
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Also

peak cloak
outer lance
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For some reason wifi extenders dont work with my wifi

peak cloak
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there must be a reason they don't

outer lance
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Whys that

peak cloak
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maybe just a bad extender

outer lance
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its linksys

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i mean i thought it was quality

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it was 40 dollars an extender

peak cloak
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extenders can't extend an already weak signal

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how did you place them

outer lance
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wdym

peak cloak
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like how far did you place them

outer lance
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like maybe 30 ft

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The first one

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i got too frustrated with it and didnt touch the second

little schooner
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extenders almost never work. wire will always be better

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maybe they work best outside

peak cloak
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@tribal ferry found the issue, two burnt out led's

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pretty simple fix

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except they are small smd ones and will be annoying to solder

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I could just bridge the led's and the probe side led's would not work, but at least the tester side would show as working

tribal ferry
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alright

thick minnow
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Can someone teach me how to Bypass these damn parental controls sad_linus

stable iceBOT
thick minnow
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It's unfair tho

hallow nimbus
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😂

thick minnow
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😭

peak cloak
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there probobly is a way, not gonna tell you tho

thick minnow
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I get 30 minutes on weekdays to play games

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Tell me

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Why not

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😭

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I can't even play the games i buy on weekdays

peak cloak
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talk with your parents

thick minnow
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I do

little schooner
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wait until your an adult then you can do whatever you want

thick minnow
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yeah I know righ

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7 more semesters left

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alternatively I could just get good grades LOL

peak cloak
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It's kinda sucks having tech literate parents

thick minnow
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My dad works at intel and my mom works at apple

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it sucks

peak cloak
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I manage my whole home network

thick minnow
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teach me

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How to disable it

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😭

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well whatever

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I just gotta learn how to study and get good grades so they take off the 5 yr old parental controsl

thorny vector
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How about we learn patience first?

thick minnow
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Yeah patience is tough

thorny vector
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It will pay dividends in the real world.

little schooner
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yeah it does.

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thats how i made double my money in stocks

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patience.

thick minnow
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Hmm

peak cloak
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my friend is so impatient, he had virg** galactic stocks and sold at at a loss because he was "lossing money"

thick minnow
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I wanna learn options

peak cloak
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like what?

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how networking works?

thick minnow
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Uh

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yeah

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I take my high school computer class but they teach 0 networking skills

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And Id like to atleast know about studd

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stuff*

little schooner
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thats because its not a networking class

peak cloak
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best way tbh is to have a lab

thick minnow
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Lab

peak cloak
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you can do it digitally too

thick minnow
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Hmm

peak cloak
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cisco packet tracker, Gns3

little schooner
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i did full ccna with packet tracer

thorny vector
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Used to have a job that was standing in a box for 12 hours. Had patience there.

little schooner
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well route and switch only

thick minnow
peak cloak
little schooner
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yeah thats not gonna cut it for me

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my network prof did one lecture on that day 1

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and we went straight into concepts next

peak cloak
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we ended up doing more python then networking

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I mostly just worked on a server

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It was a HS elective

little schooner
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i see

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my computer class was based heavily around comp hardware and troubleshooting systems when they had problems

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like a helpdesk oriented circculmn

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not so much networking.

thick minnow
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Alright well

peak cloak
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ah, that's the annoying part

thick minnow
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Where do I start? on this monster of a topic

peak cloak
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hmm, idk myself tbh. I just played around with my home router to get the basics

thick minnow
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I dont have the password

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To it

peak cloak
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yeah ik

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maybe ask your parents if you could have a lab

little schooner
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exploring is half the battle

thick minnow
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Oh ok

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Maybe if I show Im passionate about it they might teach me

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What kind of lab? a science lab? idk what that term means LOL

peak cloak
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homelab

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could be just a router and a pi

thorny vector
little schooner
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@thick minnow the way I started getting into computers was because I wanted to play Buzz lightyear game on windows XP PC but our family computer kept getting viruses (probably by my browser behavior or something). My mom would have to call techinician to fix it but i hated waiting for them to come. sometimes we would have no money to pay tech, so I become annoyed enough that I decided to try to fix it myself

peak cloak
little schooner
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the fact that i wanted to play games so badly on pc made me like pcs in the end

peak cloak
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cleaned it up a bit this weekend

thorny vector
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@peak cloak I'm all about it! That's how mine started, just a stack of hardware on an unused table

peak cloak
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tbh, I don't feel as motivated in a dedicated lab environment

little schooner
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my lab env is all virtual

peak cloak
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idk if anyone else has the same thing

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yeah, mine too

little schooner
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blazing fast too

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i got some vms on optane storage

thorny vector
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The majority of mine is as well. But I need the hardware to support everything I do.

little schooner
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same here

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i need to test in virtual environment before i push to prod

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at work, it doesn't have the fastest, greatest pcs

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i need to use my rig instead

thorny vector
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The only bare metal installs I have are for a domain controller, storage server, and cuda rigs

little schooner
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my domain controller is virtual too but i imagine that problems happen if it ever goes down

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problems that are harder to fix vs it being bare metal

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i bet

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i might as well get two servers then

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replicate each other

thorny vector
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Its always a good rule of thumb to have at least 1 DC bare metal per domain in a forest, just so that you can survive a failure of the virtualization server

little schooner
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yeah

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i totally agree

thorny vector
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Same with any essential service

little schooner
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I did a dangerous operation the other day

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and removed the enterprise CA from AD

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nothing broke fortunately.

thorny vector
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Yet.

little schooner
#

but i didnt like the process.

#

yeah xD Yet.

#

the fact that some of the server 2019 vms were core version and not gui made troubleshooting a lot harder

#

lots of workarounds to do a simple task

thorny vector
#

Powershell!

little schooner
#

even that didnt work out

#

because the domain was down

#

idk

#

it was wild.

#

oh no wait

#

it was because microsoft doesnt even give out the powershell equivalents in their documentation

#

thats why its frustrating

#

@thorny vector I did make a powershell script to spin up a simple lab environment of 5 machines though.

#

i really love how powerful it is.

thorny vector
#

PowerCLI?

little schooner
#

hyper-v environment

#

but yeah with powercli as well.

thorny vector
#

Ah. eww. PowerCLI is probably one of my favorite modules ever.

little schooner
#

it conflicts with hyper-v powershell cmdlets sometimes

#

like get-vm

#

i can only have one of them installed

#

or unload the other

thorny vector
#

Yeah. That's why I stick with VMware. I have all their stuff anyways

little schooner
#

the admins back in the day had it tough

#

now its so easy

#

also helps that microsoft is making it cross platform

thick minnow
#

can someone tell me if my internet is decently fast

thorny vector
#

I still have my box o' console cables and attachments and connectors

#

I have a personal hatred for null modem connectors

little schooner
#

memories.

thorny vector
#

nightmares

little schooner
#

well put.

lean pebble
#

Morning

dusty osprey
#

'Mornin 😛

thorny vector
#

Morning?

lean pebble
#

Ya

#

7am here

dusty osprey
#

9am here 😄

lean pebble
#

😁

dusty osprey
#

Yeah

#

The other side of the world gang

#

😛

lean pebble
#

You stole 2 extra hours 😆

dusty osprey
lean pebble
#

Give it back

dusty osprey
#

At least not 40+ hours like the other creatures

lean pebble
#

Haha

dusty osprey
#

:p

lean pebble
#

I have 57 minutes before starting my studies today

dusty osprey
#

57 miniutes

lean pebble
#

Ya

#

I think

#

They always changing it

#

Should start at 8:30

#

But they change it to 8

dusty osprey
#

My school used to at 8am here

lean pebble
#

It's college

dusty osprey
#

Mmmm

dusty osprey
#

Wh- n- wha- aa- na-

unborn sluice
#

time to use usb 2

dusty osprey
#

HECH dee emmm iii

#

Usb C to ^

thin sundial
#

tip: PCIE 1x wifi cards are much better than USB ones

dusty osprey
#

uhm yes i think everyone here knows

nimble sable
dusty osprey
#

really bluetooth bandwidth is so low that it doesnt even matter

nimble sable
#

oh ok. I've been using bt adapter for controller but it's kinda meh, gets a bit laggy sometimes. not sure if its just the nature of wireless controllers or I need a better adapter

dusty osprey
#

probably jsut a better adapter honestly

thick minnow
#

Hii

peak cloak
#

hi

thick minnow
#

Hi

thick minnow
#

Can someone pls teach me how to bypass my circle

#

parental controls

unborn sluice
dusty osprey
#

Mhm

#

No it's the best of you

#

So no,

little schooner
#

didnt you ask that yesterday?

#

We can't help you with that. That's a parenting matter.

waxen scroll
#

Have you thought about pressing the off button?

#

@little schooner Sir, this is a burger king

thick minnow
#

Heh

#

@thick minnow Good luck. You can’t. You need a entirely different network to do that. It’s between you and your parents.

hollow marlin
thick minnow
#

Its not the best for me

#

😭

dusty osprey
dusty osprey
hollow marlin
dusty osprey
#

But

#

BGP has a lot of bad nutrients

#

"99% pain"

#

"1% death"

hollow marlin
#

BGP is love

dusty osprey
#

XD

little schooner
#

@waxen scroll oh my bad. I was trying to find panera bread

spark cedar
#

i have an issue

#

my NAT is Open but my server connectivity is blocked under xbox networking and ive tried everything and it didnt work

#

now it says that my NAT is teredo disabled :/

#

Teredo is unable to qualify.

peak cloak
#

xbox makes these nats types so weird

#

there is no such thing as a NAT type

#

it's either on or off

#

and you can forward ports and open the firewall

#

that's it

lean pebble
#

I would happy to get 1Gbps 😂

spark cedar
little schooner
#

i never understood nat type

#

all i did was just make the source port consistent for a given LAN IP and that fixed nat problems

spark cedar
#

how did you do that?

little schooner
#

the key setting is STATIC PORT yes

#

i use opnsense and this is how its presented.

spark cedar
#

and does static port give me a static ip?

little schooner
#

@spark cedar no, it makes the source port static for a specific LAN device

#

The software is the router itself, it's not a box you buy

#

It's installed

#

The software is called OPNsense

#

I used static ip because I only want this policy to apply to game console ip only

spark cedar
peak cloak
spark cedar
peak cloak
#

depends, too

rocky badge
#

@clear igloo Finally I have my own VLAN LUL

spark cedar
#

oh i guess i’ll search it up for my router

peak cloak
#

yeah, that's usually your best bet

little schooner
#

yeah you have to check the router settings you have access to now

spark cedar
#

oh is it the Device Access on the back of the router?

little schooner
#

guaranteed to be different

rocky badge
#

yes

ashen warren
#

How do you set that up

#

Cuz I want to do some networking stuff but my family don't want me to mess with the wifi

#

@rocky badge

little schooner
#

usually in that case you have to buy additional equipment and make your own home lab

#

that you can play, test and explore

spark cedar
#

i got into the settings but there isnt any options

ashen warren
#

I think blob died lol

peak cloak
#

I know you can assign VLAN's to specific SSID's

spark cedar
#

it didn’t give me any access to change ip or ports, it just said which devices were on the wifi and what the passwords were

#

oof

#

i guess i’ll play on my xbox then

peak cloak
#

and there are no advanced settings?

thorny vector
#

@peak cloak You can, in fact, vlan tag over WiFi. It’s just another header you wrap the packet in. Ask me how I know.

peak cloak
#

what's the use case for that?

thorny vector
#

We had a CTF competition my team participated in. An unhealthy amount of it was WiFi related.

spark cedar
#

i got into advanced settings

thorny vector
#

And it’s for anything. All 802.11 tagging does is provide a transport mechanism over wireless.

spark cedar
#

so what would i do to create a static port

peak cloak
#

speaking of CTF, I kinda want to get into that. I done a little at https://ctf.hacker101.com/ . Brought up the idea of doing it at school at a tech club but, they are like "hacking bad"

spark cedar
#

and is it a good idea to change my ip to dynamic instead of static?

peak cloak
#

public or your pc's ip?

spark cedar
#

public

peak cloak
#

you had it on static? weird

spark cedar
#

okay so let me explain, i got forza horizon 4 off the xbox store on my pc, but i cant play multiplayer because my nat type keeps changing from Open to Tedero does not qualify. and under server connectivity it says blocked. i’ve tried everything on the Xbox Support page and it still doesn’t work.

#

this is Xbox Server Connectivity btw

#

and i’m wondering what i should do to fix it

spark cedar
peak cloak
spark cedar
peak cloak
#

harder to get back on after you get booted

#

how

#

static ip means I wouldn't need to do dynamic dns

spark cedar
#

wdym?

waxen saddle
#

Does booted = IP Banned? If so, then yea. A static IP will definitely make it hard to join a server if you've been IP banned.

#

If you're hosting a server, a static IP is practically essential. If you don't have a static IP, a dynamic DNS server (which is basically a static name assigned to a variable IP address) can create a "static" connection folks can connect with.

spark cedar
#

no, booted means someone attacks your router with bot flood to the point where it kicks you off

#

DDOS attack

waxen saddle
#

You're hosed then. A dynamic IP won't help if you use a dynamic DNS service.

spark cedar
#

how do i know if i am or not?

waxen saddle
#

How do you know if you're using a dynamic DNS service?

spark cedar
#

yes

waxen saddle
#

You would know if you used soemthing like dyndns.org or freeddns.org. These services allow you to create a dns name (like, moocow.dyndns.org) that will point to your IP address. A client on your network (on a server or router) will automatically check to see what IP address you have and update your dns name with your IP address if it ever changes.

#

If you're just advertising your IP address for folks to connect to, then yea, it might be harder for the attacker to find you. Assuming it's not someone you're handing your IP address to.

#

But if you're hosting a game server and say, the attacker just has to look for the server in a server list. Then yea, can't really hide.

#

I use to run a Halo 1 PC server. Any time my server went up, I was DDoS'd. I changed the name, and they had to manually join servers until they found the one they were banned on (mine) and then they'd start the DDoS flood again.

spark cedar
#

dang

#

im just curious as to what i should do to fix my Tedero connection and unblock my server connectivity

waxen saddle
#

I'm not sure what a Tedero connection is. Is that your ISP?

#

Aside from that. My first action plan would be to try to figure out how they're finding me.

spark cedar
#

No my ISP is Bell

#

im not getting DDoSd that was just a general question, i’ll explain my issue if you want to help

peak cloak
#

I run one for my friends

#

but that's it

spark cedar
#

here i’ll screen shot whats hapenning

waxen saddle
#

The best way to mitigate a DDoS is to try to avert one in the first place. The 2nd best way is to have control of the other end of your Internet pipe. ISP's don't typically allow for this unless you're a higher-end business customer.

#

Do you use port-forwarding?

spark cedar
#

NAT Type says Teredo is unable to qualify, but when i test tedero it says its working and i click check again and it says NAT Type: Open. So im genuinely confused

spark cedar
waxen saddle
#

Is this Windows 10 or Xbox?

spark cedar
#

Windows 10

waxen saddle
spark cedar
#

I went through all the steps on the microsoft support page, checking firewalls, active processes(such as IPHelper)

#

Yup

#

multiple times

waxen saddle
#

Did you uninstall Teredo and re-install?

spark cedar
#

i believe i did

waxen saddle
#

In powershell, run "netsh interface Teredo show state". Theis should output a server name. What is the server name? Mine says "win1901.ipv6.microsoft.com"

spark cedar
#

powershell is Cmd prompt?

waxen saddle
#

yea, it'll work in CMD as well.

spark cedar
waxen saddle
#

Is "win1910" exactly what it says? Or was it a typo?

spark cedar
#

copied and pasted

#

client port unspecified

#

state offline

#

error none

#

type disabled

#

it keeps disabling itself when i reeinable it

waxen saddle
#

Well now I'm wondering if my server is wrong. I'm on Win10 1909 and my server is win1901

#

are there any event log messages related to the adapter?

spark cedar
#

if you go into Xbox in settings and network connectivity does your NAT say open and your network connectviity isnt blocked?

peak cloak
#

you need to port forward some ports iirc

#

it tries to do upnp

spark cedar
#

what does that mean exactly?

#

and how do I port forward?

peak cloak
#

upnp is automated port forwarding

waxen saddle
#

I get the same thing" Teredo is unable to qualify" and "Server Connectivity" is blocked. I only have 1 Microsoft related app - Minecraft Bedrock edition and I don't think I'm having issues...

#

UPnP is enabled on my network and working perfectly.

#

I do block connections to North Korea. So if that's the culprit.... lol.

spark cedar
#

hm, so im in my network settings right now for my router

#

i just dont want to do anything that will kick the rest of my family off the wifi

waxen saddle
#

My PiHole isn't catching any domain name blocks for my computer.

spark cedar
#

my UPnP is on it says

#

DLNA is on

#

My DDNS is disabled tho

rain briar
#

I am in need of a network issue I am having, the screenshot is in #tech-support

spark cedar
#

im in port forwarding right now and it says i can add new settings

little schooner
#

@hollow marlin ahh he wanted the basic stuff though

spark cedar
#

I can click a plus to "create a new rule"

waxen saddle
#

@rain briar Line 5 of your screenshot... is your mask backwards? 0.0.255.255 ?

rain briar
#

Nope

waxen saddle
#

Out of my league at the moment then. It's been a while since I've touched the CLI of enterprise-grade hardware.

spark cedar
#

i guess i'll contact microsoft support? I dont think many people there are knowledgeable enough to help me tho. :/

waxen saddle
#

After I clicked "fix it", it seems it's sticking.

spark cedar
#

it got unblocked?

waxen saddle
#

The test says it did. Repeat tests confirm

spark cedar
#

now the NAT is open

#

but the server connectivity is blocked

waxen saddle
#

I also run the default built-in Microsoft Antivirus. If you have another antivirus that is playing around with things, that might be worth investigating.

spark cedar
#

no i just have Defender

#

at least the NAT is open now

#

but it closes when not in use

#

just the server connectivity is the issue

#

i don’t know what to do i’ve done literally everything

waxen saddle
#

Did you reboot?

spark cedar
#

yup

#

twice

waxen saddle
#

I'm at a loss. No idea why Microsoft likes to make things complicated.

little schooner
#

life's boring when its easy

#

there would be no motivation to work

waxen saddle
#

Not if the fun part is actually getting it done. 🙂

little schooner
#

technically yeah lol

thorny vector
#

Microsoft isn't so bad. They also put everything into KB articles.

spark cedar
#

should i contact microsoft support?

waxen saddle
#

Well. If I'm being honest. Their help guides and KB articles for cosumer-grade stuff are absolutely horrible and a waste of time.

little schooner
#

i dont think they would offer much additional help

peak cloak
#

I don't think their support will be able to fix it

spark cedar
#

i agree

peak cloak
#

it's probobly your router

#

if I needed to guess what it was

spark cedar
#

i have access to my settings and i’m able to add port rules

waxen saddle
#

Would the adapter be disabled if his router was funky?

spark cedar
#

if only i knew what the problem was

#

everyone here has the same router and modem and my friend plays fine with no issues

#

so maybe my router has a different configuration?

peak cloak
#

windows firewall? idk

spark cedar
#

i’m not sure, should i have dynamic dns off?

#

because it is right now

peak cloak
#

ddns has nothing to do with this

spark cedar
#

oh alright

peak cloak
#

wait, so you are saying under NAT type it says OK, but under server connectivity it's says ERROR?

spark cedar
#

but when i click fix it the nat type changes to open

peak cloak
#

then it has to be firewall of some sorts

spark cedar
#

but server connectivity stays blocked

peak cloak
#

I just switched to windows now because I needed to use Adobe Acrobat, and my NAT type is closed (as expected) but server connectivity is fine

spark cedar
#

i’m really confused

peak cloak
#

if we knew what server microsoft used maybe we could try pinging them

spark cedar
#

yea

peak cloak
#

read through the whole thing

spark cedar
#

how do i chekc which ports are open

#

?

peak cloak
waxen saddle
#

Those were all DNS queries run when I clicked "Check again"

waxen saddle
#

pihole. 🙂

peak cloak
#

ah

spark cedar
#

i’m not sure

#

whether it’s pc our router

#

or

peak cloak
#

both

spark cedar
#

oh

peak cloak
#

look at windows first

#

Server <-> ISP <-> Modem <-> Router <-> PC
In this whole chain the port needs to open (technically not, but that's a topic for another day)

spark cedar
#

okay and how do i check if a port is open?

peak cloak
#

check the firewall on router and pc

spark cedar
#

how do i check? sorry i dont know anythjng about this stuff

peak cloak
#

search windows defender firewall

spark cedar
#

ok

peak cloak
spark cedar
#

yup

#

all xbox inbound connections are allowed

#

all outbound as well

peak cloak
#

hmm

#

port forward those ports on your router as well

spark cedar
#

how do i do that?

peak cloak
#

when you log into your router what do you see

spark cedar
#

one sec

#

Port Forwarding

#

DMZ

#

UPnP

#

DLNA

peak cloak
#

yeah go into port forwarding

#

even though it said NAT was fine

spark cedar
#

okay

#

and theres a protocol thing that i wont touch but it says i cna create a new rule

peak cloak
#

example of my rules

#

also give your pc a static ip

spark cedar
#

yes i have that too

#

and how exactly do i do that?

peak cloak
#

go into dhcp server

#

or somewhere where it lists devices

spark cedar
#

ya

#

one sec can u hold on for two minutes

#

i need to quickly do something then j cna continue

peak cloak
#

see if it has a map static ip or something similar

spark cedar
#

give me 5 min

peak cloak
#

I gtg, it's 11PM here

unborn sluice
#

See ya

spark cedar
#

ah okay

#

goodnight

#

i have to give it a port

spark cedar
#

if i’m wanting to play a certain game, in my case, fh4, do i just open the ports for fh4 specifically?

#

okay well goodnight thanks for your help so far, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this

thick minnow
#

Inb4 changed my mac address, my parents network controller found out

#

and now i got screwed

#

i got 30 mins of freedom tho

thorny vector
#

@thick minnow mac address tomfoolery will only work so long. Best thing is to engage in a dialogue with your parents

thick minnow
#

LMAO

#

Yeah

thorny vector
#

And?

unborn sluice
#

Say "I'm a big boy now, I can browse the internet mom"

stable iceBOT
#

Asking for assistance in bypassing filters isn't allowed here. It's for your own good, deal with it, or purchase your own computer and network connection. Your parents put a filter in place for a reason. Respect that. It's for your own good, rather than the trouble you'll inevitably be in once they find out you've circumvented their filter. It's not an if, it's a when. Better to enjoy your 30 minutes than to have none at all.

thick minnow
#

Man

#

This bot only speaks the truth

#

Im so sad

#

The bot sounds like my dad

unborn sluice
thick minnow
#

Wait whos the man behind that bot

#

Answer me!!

unborn sluice
#

Not your parents

thick minnow
#

yes

flint matrix
#

lol I’m laughing at the fact that your parents actually know networking

thick minnow
#

Ikr

#

He checks his router and everything

flint matrix
#

Best to engage before you get Disney circled to death

thick minnow
#

Yeah disney circle is monstrous

#

It blocks steam, reddit, discord literally everything

flint matrix
#

I mean reddit should just be blocked universally.

#

It’s cancer

thick minnow
#

yeah

#

But I enjoy being a part of r/destinythegamer

#

game*

clear igloo
#

@rocky badge LOL, is it VLAN 666? 😄

unborn sluice
tame carbon
#

@flint matrix reddit is a fine place, you're just looking at the wrong subreddits

waxen scroll
#

So most of them?

#

Lol

unborn sluice
hollow marlin
#

@waxen scroll bpdu guard on a core switch with no bpdu filtering at the edge....Can you imagine anything going wrong in an ISP with customer facing L2 circuits??

thick minnow
#

Circle is a pain in the ass

waxen scroll
#

nothing at all

thick minnow
#

Trust me, you don’t want to anger your parents enough to get them to enable it

hollow marlin
waxen scroll
#

one of the mods really likes this channel but only posts through the bot

#

lol

thick minnow
#

Huh

#

They must use livebot or smt

clear igloo
hollow marlin
#

Exactly!! We need to pump those numbers up

#

Got a slew of alarms from an entire switch going down later finding out that MST is set with BPDU guard on an instance containing customer L2 circuit VLANs. No filter was done at the edge in the Ciena and the moment the customer plugged in their switch, the PO was shutdown which also contain some of the management VLANs to that part of the network. I had to argue with the team that set it up that BPDU guard in the core is not at all where you enable BPDU guard and they still could not see the reasoning.

dusty geyser
#

My computer says windows could not find a networks driver for your network adapter. What can I do?

peak cloak
#

install a network driver

#

@dusty geyser wifi card?

#

or ethernet?

#

and what model?

waxen scroll
#

@hollow marlin dont get fired for being disagreeable

hollow marlin
#

Im aggressive when I know I can back up my argument. They have not fired me yet with how heated I got in a few meetings

waxen scroll
#

ive been enjoying the r/sysadmin salt on companies that have been giving essential employees bonuses but not them after they got the whole company WFH

hollow marlin
#

You see the comments no the latest LTT? 100g is so last decade

waxen scroll
#

no, but i did roll my eyes when I saw it in my feed

#

the computers and servers hes using probably cant even max it

clear igloo
#

@hollow marlin Exactly, 400G to the host or stfu 😛

waxen scroll
#

netgear 100g? i didnt watch

clear igloo
#

They haven't posted the switch video yet (on YT)

waxen scroll
#

it was a switch in the thumbnail

clear igloo
#

They have a 100GB/s storage server

#

oh, did it come out today?

#

It's a Dell/EMC switch from a couple years ago

peak cloak
#

that thumbnail tho

clear igloo
#

yah, I guess it went up while I wasn't looking, lol

hollow marlin
#

I can't look at these comments anymore 🤮

waxen scroll
#

the youtube ones?

#

ill have to look now lol

clear igloo
#

Yah, they are pretty cringe
I'd say 60% are
"but muh interwebz is....."

thick minnow
#

Yes but, what’s a good way to set up IPs and start subnetting

#

For a home router

peak cloak
#

does your router support it?

thick minnow
#

Maybe

#

Lol

#

Answer is I don’t know

#

I just noticed the router had default ip and wanted to change it

peak cloak
hollow marlin
peak cloak
#

but if you are talking about just a default ip, then that's not it

#

well it is kinda

thick minnow
#

Why have the 10.0~ IP?

peak cloak
#

why not

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I could use 192.168.x.x if I wanted to

hollow marlin
#

Im lazy and its cleaner to look at. But if you work from home with a VPN it should be avoided unless you know your IP space

tame carbon
#

I have a bunch of /24's here

#

each part of the network has its own

thick minnow
#

Is there a better option to the 10.0 and 192.168 IP ranges?

#

When it comes to security

peak cloak
#

security has nothing to do with ip's

#

an ip is just an ip

thick minnow
#

Also

#

Am I able to run a vpn on a router if I’m using that router as a switch lol

peak cloak
#

oh boy

#

you are probobly double-NATing

waxen scroll
#

agree with juan, thats why i yell at blob and others with other users on their network who might need work VPNs

peak cloak
#

||opps||

thick minnow
#

I run the cables through the Ethernet ports on the router not the internet port

#

And I turned the WiFi on it off

little schooner
#

I ran into the 10.x.x.x issue when i was connecting to the college openvpn network with the professor

#

but it was an easy enough fix

#

we have a small net

little schooner
#

@waxen scroll I have 532 computers that need bios update at work

#

I'm hoping to cut that down to 150 by tonight

#

The rest I can't touch because my contract is up and then I will be forced to go there

#

For free

#

If I don't want problems in the future

waxen scroll
#

i hate the BIOS update on HP that scares the crap out of you

#

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

little schooner
#

Omg yess

#

So madly loud

#

Too

#

I only had to do like 3 HPs

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Fortunately the rest are dell

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I have the script set to run at 10pm

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If they want me again, next semester calls for another 300 or so new student laptops

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Otherwise all this falls onto the network admin to do

dusty osprey
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hp earrape beeps

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same with their servers.

dusty osprey
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Lel. Peasent.

little schooner
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single threaded file transfer limitations huh..

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and yet there is still overhead problems with robocopy

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they should fix that

stark notch
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Hey guys, quick question. What would be the major benefits of upgrading to a gaming-grade or third-party router, and what would be the more minor, less noticeable benefits as well? And if you think it's worth it, what are some good links to sites that are selling good models?

peak cloak
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"gaming-grade"

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no such thing

peak cloak
stark notch
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A router

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And I say gaming-grade because most companies use that as a marketing ploy. But I'm not sure where exactly that applies.

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I know that is the case in chairs.

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Gaming = more expensive

stark notch
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Not labeled as gaming = normal price

peak cloak
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this is a pretty good router

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doesn't have wifi

stark notch
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Well uh

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wifi is the main goal here

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this is an 80s house, absolutely no place and no means to put cables in (at least, easily)

peak cloak
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tbf if you are on ethernet then it wouldn't make much of a differnce

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oh

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well I'm in an older house and have ethernet

stark notch
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Yes but, there are literally no ports. You either had someone put them in, or someone before you put them in.

peak cloak
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yeah, I ran it all myself

stark notch
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No house before then mid-late 90s came with ethernet. And some people tell me that no houses come with ethernet jacks in the wall, but I find that hard to believe. Especially in 2020.

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I don't know much about networking sorry

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lopl

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lol*

peak cloak
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yeah tbf idk any great all-in-one routers

stark notch
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I've seen those beefy ones from Netgear at Fry's and such.

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But I'm not sure if that would be a super great substitute for the money.

peak cloak
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more spikes != better

little schooner
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more aps = better

stark notch
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Because those things are pretty exorbitantly priced, from what I can remember.

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APS?

little schooner
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access points

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the wireless ones.

stark notch
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ah

peak cloak
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Ap = make wifi basically

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routers just route

stark notch
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I didn't know that was an acronym for that

little schooner
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they call them waps

stark notch
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Every extender we've ever had kinda sucks ngl

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It's impossible to find a good one for under $60-$100

peak cloak
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well an extender really isn't a true AP

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an AP or router?

stark notch
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AP

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All of the network extenders we've had SUCK.