I have it on my phone
#networking
lean pebble
Ok
open summit
only router os 7 beta has wireguard right now.
peak cloak
ah ok
lean pebble
Oh
So I'll stay for now with this old 60c
Idk why I bought fortiwifi and not fortigate ...
lament summit
hey so i'm currently having an aneurism trying to work out wtf switches do
so i have a network in my room i'm setting up that is closed and doesn't talk to the internet at all
how tf do i use a switch for something like SSHing from one device to another
peak cloak
@lament summit a diagram could help
that way I could see how your network looks like
normal switches are purly layer 2
so they don't work with ips
just macs
lament summit
it's literally
Laptop > Switch
Ubuntu Server ^
that's the network
just two devices plugged into the switch
oh it uses MACs?
how would i talk to other devices? using the MAC instead of IP?
@peak cloak
i'm new to this btw so i have no idea wtf i'm doing
peak cloak
@lament summit wait, so no router?
lament summit
no router
peak cloak
so wait, why do you need a switch for in the first place?
lament summit
so my normal network uses a wireless router that is kinda dogshit because it caps at 20/20 even on local connections
so i bought a switch so i can just not use the router
and then i can have 2 networks
(i think)
lament summit
i couldn't
it would need like 10m of cabling even through walls
actually more like 15m
peak cloak
lament summit
i don't want this network on the internet because it shouldn't need to be
lament summit
for now
lament summit
sure
peak cloak
you would want to set ip's like this
they need to be on the same subnet
and you would have no gateway (because no internet)
and no dns (you could set one up on the server eventually)
lament summit
i have no idea what any of that means
lament summit
yes
peak cloak
ok
lament summit
kinda like a name for a device that you want to talk to
"192.168.0.1, take this data and do shit with it"
lament summit
no
peak cloak
ok so basically that identifies what ip's are in a LAN and what ip's need to be "forwarded" to a router. For example, computer 1 is 192.168.1.2/24 (the /24 is an abbreviation so we don't need to put 255.255.255.0 anymore for subnet masks) and computer b is 192.168.1.3/24. These two computers are on the same subnet and don't need a router to communicate. If they were on two seperate subnets like for example 192.168.1.2/24 and 192.168.2.2/24 they wouldn't be able to communicate with each other without a router
this is a nice article
lament summit
ah right i think i get that
peak cloak
explains a bit more than what I did
so, if you setup static ip's which are in the same subnet the computers would be able to communicate with each other
dhcp is a network protocol that automates the process and gives clients ip's automatically
so you could setup a dhcp server so that all the client on your little network can get ip's automatically
lament summit
idek what that means lol
peak cloak
what don't you understand exactly? dhcp?
lament summit
kinda yeah
also how i would setup a server for it
btw the server is a home server and all i really need it for is like fileserver (samba or something)
peak cloak
don't worry about that for now
so have you heard of the OSI model
there are multiple layers of networks
IP's are on the 3rd layer
Mac's are on the 2nd layer
so what happens is that the client will send out a broadcast packet (goes out to everyone on a L2 network) and if there is a dhcp server on that network, it will respond and give a client an ip address
idk if I'm explaining it well enough
lament summit
ah right
but could i just give everyone statics
like 10.0.whatever or some shit
i think i saw someone do htat
peak cloak
yeah
they just need to be on the same subnet
so if you do 10.1.1.1/8
10.2.1.1/8 will also be on the same subnet
if you read the article I posted above it will explain the more detailed part of subnet masks
thorny vector
Connect everything to switch, make sure everything has addresses, and ssh
lament summit
it runs ubuntu desktop btw
lament summit
yeah server had a stroke when i tried to set up my wifi
little schooner
I like to think of a subnet as the entire street that your home exists at. Each home has a different IP belonging to the street.
peak cloak
nice analogy
little schooner
Once you leave the street, it's a new subnet
I setup a laptop as pfsense temporarily to solve my dad's internet issue with QUIC transport traffic and that seemed to work great until I got him an Edgerouter x installed
Laptop was a server in this case
waxen scroll
@little schooner i kno what u mean. my subnet has gang violence
feels great to move to another subnet
lament summit
so i've got my ubuntu box to know that it is 192.168.1.1
i think
i can ping 192.168.1.1 at least
but how to i get my windows machine to know about that
@peak cloak
peak cloak
well you have to set a static ip on your windows machine
lament summit
a
peak cloak
then using complicated arp mac stuff idk about it will know where 192.168.1.1 is
lament summit
do i need to tell it a default gateway
lament summit
ah bet
wait do i want to set windows to the same as ubuntu or would i want it like +1 higher @peak cloak
peak cloak
no, a different ip
thing of it like this
each house on your street needs a different house number
if they are the same then there would be conflicts
lament summit
right yeah
so now i have a new problem
PINGs are timing out :)))
server is 192.168.1.1, laptop is 192.168.1.2
peak cloak
what subnet?
peak cloak
on both?
tribal ferry
i know you’re technically not supposed to post like this in this channel but I’m going to do it anyway
i’m now finally invested into unifi
little schooner
@waxen scroll haha. Well, it sounds like the town need to invest into those NGFW devices at both edges of the street
im at page 10 with my internship paper.
I am so happy.
obsidian token
Can anybody tell me what it would cost (rougly) to run fiber (1gigabit) from my router to my pc? Distance is about 15m
peak cloak
pure cable cost would be cheap, like 15 bucks
obsidian token
Oh really? Thats way cheaper than I thought
obsidian token
Umh, because the cable should be as thin as possible
And for nerd reasons, you know :D
obsidian token
I have no fiber equipment, no
peak cloak
b/c fiber itself isn't expensive
peak cloak
yeah
obsidian token
But this has the bulky connector..
peak cloak
but that doesn't even look like pcie
obsidian token
Oh, youre right
peak cloak
you could use this on each end
I never ran fiber yet, but you would need to choose between single mode and multi-mode fiber
and use the appropriate sfp cards for each
obsidian token
But theres another connector, a smaller one
Like, i need to run this through a wall
peak cloak
yeah fiber itself has a small connector
obsidian token
And im guessing i cant terminate this myself easily
peak cloak
but it works like this
fiber (has connector on it) -> sfp module -> sfp card or media converter
fiber goes into the front
you have different sfp's for different fibers and different distances
generally you want to use the same one on each end
peak cloak
those are a different connector
that's simplex fiber
generally duplex is better
this has an LC connector
duplex
obsidian token
To hide it from my dad, he cant stand cables xd
He doesnt want to drill big holes either
obsidian token
Right, he doesnt want that either
peak cloak
then run it in the wall
obsidian token
Dont ask me why -
peak cloak
you are going to see a wire anyway
obsidian token
then run it in the wall
IN the wall?
peak cloak
yeah, that's what I did
clear igloo
You can get LC-LC connectors that are in a single strand
peak cloak
oh yeah you can
obsidian token
yeah, that's what I did
Our european house has like solid concrete walls
obsidian token
Ikr, why do you guys even build like this? Anyways, whats LC-LC
clear igloo
Yup
obsidian token
This is more complicated than I thought
But now I know its not that expensive
Thank you guys, im gonna look into it more myself 👍
clear igloo
These are what I was looking for :)
https://www.fs.com/products/108741.html
Uniboot cables
little schooner
nice and yellow
@waxen scroll I was pretty lucky that I asked the person who was hiring me to be a reference for a background check, because I needed to have 3 professional ones but only knew 2 at the moment. Talk about good timing and luck
The position was strict about having three references or the application gets denied
waxen scroll
wowwwww
lean pebble
I have 5 fibers like this still leing in the closet (blue ones)
thorny vector
@little schooner I'll be your reference. I'll need your references first, though.
lone fossil
Hey guys, Can someone assist me with OpenSSH server? I cannot ssh into my windows pc using ssh on my linux laptop.
peak cloak
@lone fossil you need to enable ssh on windows
lone fossil
well yeah, i did enable OpenSSH ssh server on windows
lone fossil
hum. i haven't done that
peak cloak
how are you connecting? username and password or keys?
lone fossil
so,
peak cloak
idk if windows supports username and password login
echo smelt
ok this is probably pointless but can i use a cat 6 ethernet cable on a cat 5 network and get some benefits at least i mean my modem can fully take advantage of a cat 6 cable but it has a cat5 cable plugged into it so if i use a cat6 cable to connect my pc to my modem will i get some benefits at least?'
peak cloak
@echo smelt depends
echo smelt
on wehat
lone fossil
i grab just the user, part, and then on the linux pc, i do ssh vilian@192.168.0.2- then i get prompted for the password, but i can't ever get through there
echo smelt
idk id have to ask my dad or maybe i can plug the ip in chropme and log in as admin andsee?
lone fossil
peak cloak
@echo smelt just ask what you pay for
unborn sluice
@lone fossil isn't the tutorial ssh public/private keys
lone fossil
yeah, so what i did is i generated a key on my linux laptop using ssh-keygen
then i did cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys
and i moved that file over to the windows machine inside of .ssh folder inside of the user's direcotry
thorny vector
Hah, you know I would just use powershell from linux to open a ps-session
thorny vector
@lone fossil Throw a netstat, make sure the ssh port is open
lone fossil
%USERPROFILE%/.ssh/
unborn sluice
%USERPROFILE%/.ssh/
copy the authorized keys to
%ProgramData%\ssh
soo, copy then try again?
thorny vector
Shouldn't need any key bs-ery if you're using a password
unless you configured sshd for key login only
lone fossil
i did not touch the config file
unborn sluice
should be either key or password depending
lone fossil
i can paste u guys the contents of it if u wantr
thorny vector
eh
You get a good connection, because you get prompted for the password. Check any capitalization or spelling differences between the windows and linux usernames
lone fossil
ok so
i moved the authorized_keys file into the ssh folder inside of program data
i also created a copy of it named administrators_authorized_keys into the same folder
unborn sluice
and it still doesn't work?
lone fossil
and nope.......
unborn sluice
error?
lone fossil
i just get please enter a password
and i'd assume the password is the one i log into my windows
so i typed it out, and it says that it is wrong
unborn sluice
are you sure your private key doesn't have password lel
unborn sluice
ye
lone fossil
i created it without using any passwords or passphrases
unborn sluice
something's fishy
lone fossil
but even so... shouldn't i be able to connect to my windows machine without a key?
i mean, it's only logical.
unborn sluice
can you try to turn off password auth
so if the key fails, it doesn't work altogether
lone fossil
i'll try
wait
something is very weird
if i try sshing
it only allows me 3 tries before it kick me out
but here on the sshd_config_default
it says max auth tries 6 ??????????
thorny vector
That's seperate, that's not weird
lone fossil
is it?
unborn sluice
it is
lone fossil
I can't make changes to the sshd_config_default inside of OpenSSH (SYS32)
oh but here we go. i disabled the service for Open ssh, and on my nmap it shows that the port 22 has closed.
doing ssh user@ip does not work anymore... so i guess that is good.
finite kelp
Best books for network security?
unborn sluice
You have no idea what else you want for Christmas besides books? lmao
little schooner
I've read an information assurance book but not a security book yet
Id rather be the defender than the attacker
lone fossil
ugh.. this is so stupid i'm going nuts
unborn sluice
🥜
unborn sluice
lone fossil
and on top of that
every time i try connecting with my username, it asks for a passoword so i type my windows login password
and it does jack sh*t
I'm so sad.
unborn sluice
agree
waxen saddle
And you are typing the username and password as case-sensitive? “Admin” != “admin”
peak cloak
depends, usually you can put it in passthrough mode
where the modem/router passes the "signal" across and doesn't do NAT
deft fog
hay does any one know how to transfer wifi fome 1 computer to a nother computer using wifi cable? i got it to work yesterday but i cant get it to work to day after i turnned both systems off. any help?
quick trout
@peak cloak the problem is fixed with the Ethernet cable 🙂 so called support he said take out Ethernet cable, Open (the thing you said yesterday) and then click delete. delete all stuff from that driver. then restart PC plug in Ethernet cable again and I got internet again under 20 sec 🙂
anyway thanks for the help yesterday
peak cloak
nice
tame carbon
@peak cloak folks have managed to put a linux distro on the new mac mini
eagerly awaiting in-depth results on the hardware support
might be a worthy investment after all
peak cloak
oh nice
tame carbon
either a mac mini for 650
or I wait till next year
till some other manufacturer brings out a device that can be upgraded
lean pebble
Mac mini can be upgraded? 🤔
tame carbon
no
@lean pebble everything in terms of hardware is baked onto the logic board
not user serviceable
dusty osprey
Wh-what is that
peak cloak
why
dusty osprey
Speaking of that
I am deciding to build my new linuxpc
I came with an amazing proccesor
intel pentium III
tame carbon
power/perf ratio should be a crime
dusty osprey
My country's so bad we don't even have dumpsters here for old ThonkPads
pads are ok
dusty osprey
Nah a Pentium aint that slow 😛
tame carbon
its 32 bit
dusty osprey
It'll run Debyan 10 just fine 😛
tame carbon
limited to 4GB ram
dusty osprey
WHAT ITS 32 BIT
i taught its amd64 ._.
x86
eeewww
well debian 10 still has x86 right?
😄
dusty osprey
wow. Pentium 4?
dusty osprey
I would have gone with core two duo quads
Ok seriously tho
I want to build a pc out of ebay
I need help :(
I don't dare to step into #build-a-pc or #public-chat
it scares me
tame carbon
Nevermind a microscope, a magnifying glass should be enough. https://i.imgur.com/018e1Qq.png
lean pebble
<@!109801863771074560> everything in terms of hardware is baked onto the logic b...
Ok
dusty osprey
Mmmm
tame carbon
they have some benchmarks included
with arm systems, more memory bandwidth generally means faster system
so look at that
lean pebble
May pi4 will be ok to serv as a router ? 🤔
tame carbon
@lean pebble no
lean pebble
Ok
tame carbon
@lean pebble $20
it has 3x 100mbit/s network
and wifi
you can power this with a pi though
it uses usb 5V
lean pebble
Currently I can't spent anymore money for now 😅
I need something that support upto 1Gb
tame carbon
you want a router at full 1gbit speed?
@lean pebble https://mikrotik.com/product/hex_s
no wifi, just 5x gigabit ethernet
dusty osprey
I want the hex s
lean pebble
I need neto router without wifi option
tame carbon
with total routing capacity of ~2gbit/s
tame carbon
@lean pebble this one has 5x 1gbit ports, and can route at around 2gbit/s
switching is hardware offloaded
lean pebble
Ok
tame carbon
but if you have 1gbit/s internet, the hEX S is perfect
you can even use it to configure wifi if you need it, you can use it to remotely manage the access points
it does not have wifi itself
lean pebble
Thanks for your help :)
lean pebble
Oh nice so SFTP+ support if I remember the name correctly
tame carbon
@lean pebble the hEX S has just SFP
that's 1.25gbit (little over 1G)
SFP+ is capable of full 10G
lean pebble
Ok
tame carbon
lean pebble
But still doesn't have the main fiber core from the ISP 😅
tame carbon
I have exactly same thing
ISP just gave me an SFP module
and a fiber patch lead
to plug in
I actually use a media converter
lean pebble
I have vdsl2 now
tame carbon
because I didnt want to give up the 10G port on my router
since SFP is just 1G
@lean pebble https://i.imgur.com/KzS5VSw.png
the ISP fiber is on the left
goes into media converter, and then inport ethernet1
and the other fiber is 10G that goes to my switch on the other side of the building
lean pebble
Nice can I get 1Gb from you?
tame carbon
wat
tame carbon
yes, locally
lean pebble
Haha
dusty osprey
oh ur internet speed isnt LTT internet speed
Shucks
cries with 0.000000000000001Kbps
tame carbon
@dusty osprey do you know how much peering costs for that?
tame carbon
for the average home user 1G would be enough
lean pebble
Give me only 1Gb external I don't need more
stuck hawk
I'd just be happy with 2.5gbe local to leverage my cat6, damn router hardware to support it costs so much
dusty osprey
Man i want this :(
tame carbon
@lean pebble they can do pretty much anything
mikrotiks can support a lot of setups
and are freely configurable
ofcourse
that also means you can put in wrong configurations that dont work
and it wont warn you
lean pebble
Haha
tame carbon
yeah, you have no idea how much the avg normie expects input validation
dusty osprey
Trust me i want this, its cheap, it has that CONFIGURATING
lean pebble
I broke my fortiwifi with broken configuration
tame carbon
@lean pebble usually I make a backup when I have a working configuration
that if I go to change it, I can just rollback with 1 buttonpress
lean pebble
I had just loaded the wrong one
I connected via console to it
The only option I had
tame carbon
@dusty osprey those hAP mini's are great for if you need OTG wireless
they use 5V usb
and have 3 ports
runs same operating system, but costs only $20
dusty osprey
I mean I am using this dlink weird router now .-. but in the same time i do not need a thing like that
it costs 40$ my local amzn crystal .-.
lean pebble
I can connect usb to it but I still not sure how to use it
And console is faster I guess
Their old program let you connect via 127.0.0.1 to the web interface while using console
dusty osprey
wait what
lean pebble
I prefer shell
lean pebble
In fortigate you can do it to but not when it's bricked
dusty osprey
is it a linux shell
tame carbon
it isnt
dusty osprey
😦
tame carbon
they have their own thing
dusty osprey
but how is it like
dusty osprey
my isp ftth modem is this huawei ftth thing
lean pebble
Only web interface
dusty osprey
and then its connected to my dlink router
which also is provided by isp
earlier they used to like force lock the devices so only their routers can be used
but now, its ok i think
lean pebble
I took my ISP router and switched it to bridge for only vdsl2 support
I just want a better internet 40Mbps is shit
lean pebble
Does mikrotik support gre tunnel?
dusty osprey
oh i taught u meant a terminal shell @tame carbon
tame carbon
In computing, a shell is a computer program which exposes an operating system's services to a human user or other program. In general, operating system shells use either a command-line interface (CLI) or graphical user interface (GUI), depending on a computer's role and particular operation.
shell means both
its the generic term
terminals and graphical shells
lean pebble
I'm using gre gateway sometimes instead of VPN to bypass Netflix
tame carbon
@lean pebble https://i.imgur.com/dwYZakM.png
lean pebble
Nice
tame carbon
tame carbon
dusty osprey
nice uptime
tame carbon
no
@dusty osprey the terminal basically follows the same layout as the menu
so its /interface gre <params>
dusty osprey
mmm ok so its not unix
tame carbon
they use linux kernel
dusty osprey
😮
tame carbon
but all the userspace stuff and the drivers is all custom
look at the resource usage
dusty osprey
can u atleast do "uname -a"
tame carbon
not directly
dusty osprey
:-;
dusty osprey
._.
tame carbon
but it works very well
dusty osprey
i understand dont worry ._.
tame carbon
and you get updates like every 2 months
tame carbon
and even their 10 year old devices still get updates
tame carbon
Its just the same OS on all the platforms
just the hardware thats different
but the interface is same
dusty osprey
mmmmmmmmmmmm
tame carbon
you can also get the tricked out one
runs at 1.2GHz instead of 1
and has faster memory
the capacity scales depends mostly on two factors
how many packets per second it can process, well you can see it caps out at 120 million packets
thats at the smallest size, but ethernet is 1518 bytes
so if you combine that
you get ~80gbit/s routing
may require faster ram and cpu ofc
but mind you, this is already 72 cores xD
dusty osprey
😮
tame carbon
TILE64 is a multicore processor manufactured by Tilera. It consists of a mesh network of 64 "tiles", where each tile houses a general purpose processor, cache, and a non-blocking router, which the tile uses to communicate with the other tiles on the processor.
dusty osprey
seems like it can do good routing from that crypto thingy
tame carbon
so they can communicate with one another
and you can use them to set up paralell processing streams in a way
like, packets of data come in
and you can route them around, and each bit of the software runs on seperate tile
Thats the chip on the CCR1072
but this stuff is old
2013 technology
45nm
new networking equipment has this, but with today's technology
idk what they use
hallow nimbus
Magic picky powder
peak cloak
vlans on a raspberry pi, this is going to be fun
lean pebble
What is the best way to monitor weird Network issues ?
waxen scroll
@lean pebble an APM/NPM appliance
lean pebble
What?
waxen scroll
@hollow marlin am I wrong?
lean pebble
I'll tell the more about this weird issue.
When I'm downloading game update or just random file from the internet then I'm getting 5MB/s download and boom no internet
No internet everywhere for 2 minutes than it's back to 2 minutes and down for 5 minutes
hollow marlin
@waxen scroll not at all
You mentioned VDSL earlier so you have bad copper and when you are taxing your connection errors break a threshold and for a retrain
lean pebble
Oh ok.
So I'll need to talk with those bunch of idiots that own the internet infrastructure. (Here it's separated from the ISP)
They always say there is no issue...
hollow marlin
Well if you have access to the modem to see the errors, typically have retrain count as well
waxen scroll
@lean pebble ask them to see the cable certification results
they'll go uhhhhh and then you'll go "you didnt test it. did you."
tribal ferry
New plan for my newly purchased UniFi setup
lean pebble
<@!109801863771074560> ask them to see the cable certification results
I already saw the error on the vdsl2 / adsl connection from my modem and told them they went to "uhhhh fuck you" in our words
final mirage
@tribal ferry Weird flexhd but okay XD
little schooner
@waxen scroll so.... what do i do if I am given a 35k quote that needs an answer whether or not its correct for a lab use case? It will be submitted if I dont respond in 4 hours on a day I dont work. thoughts?
waxen scroll
What would I do? Nothing.
waxen scroll
Let the chips fall
little schooner
i see.
But I really care about the work i do
I just feel bad that I dont see the same in return
waxen scroll
😷
waxen scroll
You're coming full circle. You're ready to quit
Good. Good. Start hunting
I hope you had an out of office reply up
That really hits home when the other person gets it
@little schooner you need to begin theses habits early
When work is done and you're not on call, no phone, no email
Idk why you even know about this problem right now
little schooner
i got to set that up. heh i forgot about that
i know.
the thing is my phone gets work email
maybe i shouldnt have it notify me on non work days?
waxen scroll
Mine does too but it can be turned off
waxen scroll
Current job emails stop after work anyway so I keep it on lol
This helps a lot with stress
I'm not saying nothing's your problem, I know that's how it comes off, but you can tell it's rolling off my shoulders
Even work from home, my hours are no longer than 8. If I work at night I take that time out from the day
If your employer can't handle that, it's not a good place to work
@hollow marlin I can feel the glares of people in here who go over 40
lmao
lean pebble
They don't care if there is a problem or not this stupid service provider.
They only come if there is large scale customer issues.
Like 4 to 10 customers minimum.
Until you're starting to shout on them and tell them you going to cancel their "service"
lean pebble
It's not ISP
The ISP is ok here it's separated ISP and network infrastructure
The ISP is only user and pass with great service
peak cloak
oh, so the company that does all the wiring?
similar structure like how snazzy labs has it?
so like utopia fiber
lean pebble
oh, so the company that does all the wiring?
They are the main problem for all the problem with all the other providers
Only in the last 9/10 years the government blocked them from interfering with other providers that give the same thing and fiber.
The other providers didn't arrived yet with their fiber to private houses
And their vdsl2/ adsl are from the same shitty provider
lean pebble
so like utopia fiber
I think if they'll work like utopia fiber than everything would work great
But this company is 2 stupid to make it like this
Only 60% of the country are connected to fiber and this only business building and Residential Building
hollow marlin
And their vdsl2/ adsl are from the same shitty provider
Its not the provider, its the tech. DSL, more so copper, will always have issues. It cannot over come noise from nearly anything emitting any bit of frequency
60% of where you live being on fiber is insane, here in the US thats barely past single digits
thick minnow
60% of where you live being on fiber is insane, here in the US thats barely past...
I’d say that AT&T fiber is crap though. So even some of those single digits shouldn’t really count IMO
hollow marlin
Depends on what the issue actually is. Many blame their ISP for their own issues
thick minnow
I’d suppose
lean pebble
60% of where you live being on fiber is insane, here in the US thats barely past...
Ya but not really connected except building
So 15% from it
hollow marlin
Doesn't matter is its DSL/COAX/fiber, it will always be X ISP is garbage!!! I can pull up the tickets from our residential NOC and 90% of the problems are wireless related, 10% are just a mix of crap cabling, terrible PCs, not knowing Mbps vs MBps, etc.
lean pebble
My ISP is great my internet infrastructure are shitty with their support
I had other issue for 12 years
They didn't want to conffest that their routers sucks and their system keep refreshing my router everytime at 8pm
Until I just made their router as bridge
And fix it by myself
With private router
peak cloak
refreshing my router everytime at 8pm I don't understand this, don't you have a fortigate router?
lean pebble
I have now
But for 12 years I had this issue until I got my fortigate
Only then all the problems disappeared
3 weeks ago the weird Network crashing while downloading files arrived
I talked with them 10 times and nothing, the Support guy just hangout the phone to my ISP Support and me.
waxen scroll
@peak cloak old job was rebooting fortigates every 180 days or whatever it was
big boys too, not small home office FW
waxen scroll
it was the 2U units, its been a while. I dont recall the model
lean pebble
Ya the huge ones
peak cloak
@waxen scroll why? where they leaking memory or something
lean pebble
Maybe forti analyzer
And older model
60B I think was 1U
1U
I wanted to buy the 90E but was 2 expensive
Well gn guys :)
peak cloak
any good guides to network namespaces on linux?
I want to setup my raspberry pi to be on multiple vlans with each server program running in it's own namespace
I was able to get started on the basics
create a namespace and assign an vlan interface to it
and be able to exec ping 1.1.1.1 successfully
little schooner
Doesn't matter is its DSL/COAX/fiber, it will always be X ISP is garbage!!! I ca...
my issue is that comcast doesnt give enough upload speed even with their expensive higher tier options
that bothers me so much. I have to decrease the bitrate of my security cameras just to see them when im in a remote connection
it stutters and chugs because 5 mbps isnt enough for 6 cameras at once
putting the quality any lower makes it useless to discern anything in the picture
peak cloak
DOCISS ?
little schooner
DOCSIS yes. I have a 3.1 modem
oh wait no thats at site 2. This one is a 3.0 arris model
but yes site 2 has 3.1 modem but its still super slow
peak cloak
I convinced my parents to switch to fios because it was cheaper and better upload speeds. Yeah DOCISS can do fast speeds theoretically, but the ISP doesn't support such fast speeds
little schooner
concast
they are increasing the fees again
and enforcing the data caps on 39 states
peak cloak
any other ISP's?
peak cloak
rip
peak cloak
weren't they bought by verizon?
little schooner
were they? frontier is a corrupt entity.
they charged my dad more and more and more each month
lied to him about the package
and service went down frequently
peak cloak
nevermind frontier bought out some of fios's service area
Apparently frontier lost a lot in that acquisition
valid harness
What would cause my internet to go out for only me
and say "Cant connect to this network" for about 5m then let me on?
Its starting to get annoying
peak cloak
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hard to troubleshoot
could be your router
could be isp
could be wifi
could be your wifi card
could be router's wifi card
unborn sluice
you lose internet every 5m
lean pebble
My internet crashed 20 minutes ago without downloading anything 😑
junior geyser
does anyone know anything about the cloudmesh?
tame carbon
@junior geyser cloudwat
cloud mesh
sounds the worlds worst invention
two terrible concepts merged into one
@little schooner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3IPVWN-1ks
lean pebble
Hahaha
north stag
Are there RJ45 that doesnt support CAT6 which causes me getting 100 Mbps instead of 500?
Cause im provided with 500 and i ran a 50 meters CAT6 through the wall and it gives me 100Mb and when i connect the CAT5e that i got with the router to the same pc i get 500
peak cloak
@north stag are you on windows?
also you probobly missed a pair and it's auto negotiating to 100Base-T
north stag
Dont think i missed a pair..
Did it twice
And i have a device checking if its all connected
north stag
also you probobly missed a pair and it's auto negotiating to 100Base-T
I set it to 1Gbps
But when i connect the CAT6 cable it doesnt even recognize it
Only when its set to 100
peak cloak
Then it's the wire
Do you have a cable tester
How did you wire it?
Same way on each end?
north stag
Do you have a cable tester
Nope
peak cloak
you can pick one up for like 10 bucks in home depot or a hardware store
north stag
How did you wire it?
Tied it to an existing cable and pulled it out
north stag
Same way on each end?
Yep
peak cloak
huh?I mean the crimping?
north stag
Oh lol i have a tool
I know how to crimp it
Watched tutorials
So it cant be the RJ45?
peak cloak
T-568B or A on both ends?
north stag
Ut felt kinda cheap
north stag
Bought new ones hope itll work
peak cloak
if you look at it from the front, you can check to see if they went all the way in
north stag
T-568B or A on both ends?
Not by this protocol but same for both sides
north stag
Does it matter?
peak cloak
kinda, you want to use the same standard everywhere
north stag
I mean the pc doesnt recognizes colors...
peak cloak
functioanlly no
north stag
Its just organizing it
thick minnow
Any advice for a good network switch for the home with really good user interface??
final mirage
@thick minnow depends on what you plan on doing and how many ports you need; my netgear managed 8 port has an easy gui and was like 30 bucks. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PLFCQVK
peak cloak
Eh I have it and it's annoying
lean pebble
I think I got it fixed the problem I had I just hope the other problem will not appear again
silk hare
Best networking management software options? Specifally for managing and securing networks in an enterprise level enviroment. Any recommendations?
hollow marlin
@silk hare Have to explain a little more. Managing a network will be more towards automation
silk hare
Disregard.
clear igloo
Size of the organization/network to manage, mix of the network (single vs multi vendor), type of network (data center, edge/access, core, etc) to manage all come into play to even begin to think about recommending something
silk hare
Totally understood, this was a question posted to me and I wanted to see if other people also say the same things you guys just said
I was trying to prove a point lol
clear igloo
Yah, it's not as simple as 'get x software' 🙂
silk hare
E x a c t l y
TY FOR SAYING THOSE WORDS
My argument right now is there is no single one off product to fully manage an enterprise level IT enviroment. It takes several systems to manage, protection, patch, reporting, business continuity and diaster recovery, SaaS protection and so much more.
hollow marlin
There are a few that claim to do all of that but they all tend to be garbage/unstable. Each piece tends to have its own software if you want things to work as expected
clear igloo
Even looking at Cisco or Juniper you don't really have cohesive end to end management from a single piece of software. Cisco kind of has something-ish with NSO and I'm sure Juniper has an equivalent for their products (not 100% sure). You could look at someone like Apstra but even they have more focused areas compared to others. On top of that what you want to do with the software is a whole other can of worms. Software upgrades and basic config/snippet management? Sure, there are plenty of things that can do that and do it pretty well. Advanced configuration orchestration and monitoring? good luck 🙂
hollow marlin
Even looking at Cisco or Juniper you don't really have cohesive end to end manag...
Easy its called SD-WAN 
lol
clear igloo
Easy its called SD-WAN <:pepoJuice:670049444539924487> lol
LOL 😄
Press EZ button, done
hollow marlin
On the Juniper point, Junos is heavily integrated with automation and even then there is no single or even 2-3 software utilities that can do most of what people want as an all-in-one. Juniper is up to like 4 or 5 of their own but all have severe limitations in one what or another
Oh also @clear igloo ,speaking of Cisco, deciding between the JNCIE-SP or CCIE-Ent, decided to just go for the CCIE-SP. Got to work more is IOS XR the last few months and think Im going to shoot for the lab in spring
clear igloo
Very nice!
Hope the lab goes well. I've not heard much about the SP track in terms of difficulty so hopefully that means it's pretty middle of the road
hollow marlin
Ive been studying for the IE-Ent over the past year and had a break and got the JNCIP-SP for work. Looks over the blueprint and I would say its harder from protocol perspective but now the IE-Ent is so SD-WAN focused I think its going to be brutal for most
clear igloo
Ive been studying for the IE-Ent over the past year and had a break and got the ...
Yah, that's what I've heard (the SD-WAN stuff) as well. I need to sit down and focus on my DC stuff for a bit and finish that out probably by June or so
hollow marlin
DC projects or going down the DC track?
clear igloo
DC track, I'm like 85% focused on all DC type stuff right now at work so it makes sense
hollow marlin
Same here. Always been in SP and looking at a new position at another SP. Only thing is SP is the most barren track for material so I did have to dig into some DC books and if I had another change in networking careers it would be DC
daring basin
so I thought y'all might appreciate this... \
It's my first test run from the home server over my new L2 switch
daring basin
I heard linus was installing 40g and I was like oh that's cute... call me when you get to the point your business needs a Cisco Nexus 9364D-GX2A
dusty osprey
I was like... cute when his stories showed a 6TB ram intel xeon.
still have not touched 7U supermicro's 8 socket xeon's heh.
daring basin
I remember when I had stacks of blades, quad sockets stacked for days, never saw one for 8 sockets though, that must've been a beast
daring basin
special order for Halliburton, thought I'd give it a test run at home before I throw it in their live environment though
dusty osprey
daring basin
if you think that's something though I think juniper makes a 4u or 6u of 400g connectors
dusty osprey
how did you saturate all that B/W
daring basin
NVME raid cards
dusty osprey
if you think that's something though I think juniper makes a 4u or 6u of 400g co...
Hmm, they probably do. I remember seeing their pages
dusty osprey
NVME raid cards
Wait, how tf 1.77tb/s
daring basin
So I run a data storage solution in the bakken region with only a few high end customers, and one of the golden rules is storage in multiple locations right, so I keep one at home, one on site, one at the office, etc, we need high uptime low latency so basically we've got stuff that makes jellyfish look like a snail
I basically hooked everything up and told all the data to move around for a minute to test it
dusty osprey
aah interesting
So do you have all of those servers interconnected with all that bandwidth
daring basin
not yet, this was all local test
next step is to hook up their facility, then I'll have to start laying the fiber to each san location
dusty osprey
Oh 😛
daring basin
big numbers just feel good, the reality is that's not even as fast as this switch can handle but sadly it's the best I can manage today I think, maybe I could squeeze a little more but honestly not sure how much
hollow marlin
if you think that's something though I think juniper makes a 4u or 6u of 400g co...
Juniper QFX can be had a 400Gx32 in 1u
daring basin
yeah you can get 400g in 1u easy, I meant just crazy big and crazy fast
that 400gx32 has max throughput of what 7.2tbs?
hollow marlin
12.8tbps. Juniper has moved to if the ASICs cannot handle line rate its not in the new products
dusty osprey
LinusTech#5314 its this
thick minnow
lol
dusty osprey
Now please leave us networking nerds alone
daring basin
yeah the nexus I have I believe goes up over 25tbs
but the really big juniper, I think they push it to 100tbs
dusty osprey
Won't work
thick minnow
yea
thick minnow
figured that out the hard way
dusty osprey
heh.
thick minnow
how do i reach linus
daring basin
you don't
thick minnow
i want to tho
dusty osprey
Business? Contact at the business email. Only sponsers can wok.
If its personal, errrr
No
thick minnow
its about bulilding a pc
dusty osprey
Dude, ask this community
thick minnow
No
dusty osprey
Why tf u wanna contact him
thick minnow
LINUS
hollow marlin
but the really big juniper, I think they push it to 100tbs
PX10016 I think tops at like 115tbps if you fill the chassis
thick minnow
lol
daring basin
yeah that's what I'm talking about BOI
dusty osprey
Is that all the total switching capacity
hollow marlin
We have dozens of MX10003s. As a SP we don't need that type of throughput, not coming close to even maxing out the line cards ATM
hollow marlin
Is that all the total switching capacity
Switching/routing. Done in the same ASIC. Backplane however is another story
waxen saddle
Imagine what Linus's life would be like if hundreds of thousands of people could directly contact him. Maybe now you understand why you cannot reach him directly.
daring basin
our total throughput probably won't peak out that that kind of speed but we're definitely max on what we have now, this one switch will probably be replacing several racks
dusty osprey
You know when you people talk about Tbit/s and i am struggling uploading 700KB screenshots to a friend
not my internet. My phone discord has. issues.
hollow marlin
our total throughput probably won't peak out that that kind of speed but we're d...
You mean two switches. I hope you plan on having some redundancy
daring basin
there's already an abundancy of redundancy, this is just going to help clear clutter, there's still failover
waxen scroll
@dusty osprey its really sad that linus staff dont participate in their own community
hollow marlin
Seeing how his last video was about spam of people asking for a free PC I can understand why. No LZ plz give me Nexus, k thanks
dusty osprey
this is true
He can't ;-;
He has a huge fanbase here
y'know i was like that few yrs ago too but I realized these things u work for it no aint giving u for free
daring basin
anyway I pulled a live snap of what the other servers are doing right now
typical average throughput
dusty osprey
daring basin
and it does this 24/7
waxen scroll
@hollow marlin remember when rouing promised me a free ASR9k ?
hollow marlin
Yeah where has he been?
waxen scroll
idk lemme check his reddit really quick. wonder if hes a plumber this week
dusty osprey
Wait now what who offered a free asr 9000
hollow marlin
Oooo he has a reddit
daring basin
@dusty osprey wait till next month when we overhaul the storage, WD is hooking us up with the new sn850s and we're going to be upgrading all those raid cards
daring basin
I also have to add another rack of old hdd's for archive but the raid is where it's at
dusty osprey
My god
hollow marlin
Wait now what who offered a free asr 9000
Last company I worked at, the guy they hired as my replacement pulled a 9k and 2 6500 chassis from a hospital as they were upgrading. about a year after he filled my spot, when they had an issue it hit him that he forgot he had them in his garage
dusty osprey
Wow
I struggle to find dell optiplexes here for free
Is there a torrented version of rhel linux
daring basin
anyway I've gotta get ready for 3rd shift, hope y'all have a good time
dusty osprey
Thanks 😄 you too
daring basin
one last one for the road
little schooner
whats one of the main reasons why a company wouldn't implement a vpn solution for laptops that are issued to employees?
They are told that they have to come on campus every now and then to stay compliant
thats a correct policy to have right?
hollow marlin
whats one of the main reasons why a company wouldn't implement a vpn solution fo...
either VPN doesn't play well with domain controller and ensure policy/updates or other situations Ive seen is to verify the device actually belongs to the corp by connecting locally vs only remote
waxen scroll
@little schooner hiiiiiiii
the main reason is bandwidth usage
I havent seen policy problems since XP in my professional career
the only thing thats still annoying is network share mapping over VPN
they dont auto map most of the time until you rerun your login script
@little schooner what are they using for app installs?
is it the built in software center ?
little schooner
sorry. I was very busy with a lot of things
thanks for the input
@hollow marlin hmm yeah we do have policy update change problems. maybe thats why they dont use the vpn. it is a complaint i heard from the supervisor
@waxen scroll yeah bandwidth i can see being an issue. the platform they use pushes packages so I understand that they wouldn't want it to do that
waxen saddle
Just set a policy to have it refresh the policy more often.
solar badger
anyone in here a shaw bluecurve customer and get their bluecurve wireless tv boxes working with their gateway in bridge mode, so you can run a third party router
lean pebble
Good morning / afternoon / evening :)
round dirge
south escarp
Hi guys. I have question for you. Is there way how increase compression of upload packets? The point is, my provider (O2) gives me 2.24 Mbit/s ( agregation 1:10) and I would like to optimize it / increase it. ( os. Win 10)