I've graduated now, IDK who's maintaining it.
#networking
pseudo blade
pseudo blade
I got it onto a pair of R710s, fixed replication and generally brought it up to best (possible with available resources) practice.
That was the newest servers they had, but unlike the 2900 they were in decent nick.
It was in a RAID 1 for the hypervisor and a RAID 5 for the AD+DC VM. When I was granted access to it (2900), the box had two dead disks.
Degraded RAID 5's are awful, by the way.
You can tell the array's degraded because everything grinds to an effective halt, no indicators necessary.
They were lucky they lost one of both arrays, because literally any other possible combination wouldn't have been fun.
noble summit
Yesterday my Internet had a download speed of 0.38 megabyte.
obsidian imp
Not sure if this is really the right channel or allowed and I apologise in advance if it isn't but I live in thailand and I'd like access to a VPN but don't have the ability to pay for one because my paypal keeps getting declined. Does anyone have a VPN account that has more allowed devices than they use? I only need it for 1 device to get access to UK netflix, prime etc. for 1 month and then i'll be off your back. Thank you and again, I apologise if this sort of thing is not allowed
nimble coyote
check what VPN bypasses Netflix's block
obsidian imp
I have and every single one of them rejects my paypal details
nimble coyote
I mean only certain vpn's will get you access to nexflix
brittle coral
Hi every1. Today i have the Netgear Nighthawk X4S AC2600. Wondering about upgrading since we have so manny devices now, including my nas. Standing between Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 and Netgear RAX120-100EUS. Been thru this in my head quadrillion times, cant decide. Anyone got
any suggestions?
subtle glen
pretty sure the AC2600 can handle a lot of devices by itself
waxen scroll
if you arent switching to pro-sumer gear where you have multiple APs to spread the load i might agree with Back
dont bother
its not like you have 20 wireless devices doing 4k netflix at the same time
subtle glen
the manufacture says that netgear dual band routers can handle 32 devices on both bands
its unlikely you will saturate that
subtle glen
both wired and wireless?
waxen scroll
the wireless alone
subtle glen
might get a 100 euros ubiquiti ap too to change my tp link router
waxen scroll
i gave my friend my old one (the square models) and he said it was night and day difference over his comcast router
subtle glen
i said the same when i changed my wireless G 2.4 ghz router with the tp link dual band one i have now
subtle glen
ohhh it's that stupid plug
subtle glen
lol
hollow marlin
Who doesn't provision a head of time first before traveling? I make sure everything is working before just leaving a few hours away let alone flying
waxen scroll
it depends on the company
shipping is expensive
its easier to just do it on site
current company we config like 90% of it at our office... others we didnt and depended on the remote contact to rack it and connect serial
if its me, i have configs ready to go in a situation like that
hollow marlin
I'm just saying that guy didn't even do enough to opent he box to config or verify literally anything before travel
little schooner
I should consider buying a consumer router that is designed for the extremists of speeds if I have a device that can push that much. My Unifi aps will be there for general stable wifi
But I don't think there is a need since the unifi AC Pro is so fast for me.
hollow marlin
@little schooner mikrotik 4011 of you want pure speed
hollow marlin
It's far from it
waxen scroll
Passionate about solving complex problems and doing good
Enthusiastic about creating an elegant and delightful user experience
Intellectually curious with a genuine desire to learn
A good listener who shows respect to your colleagues
A believer in asking for forgiveness, not permission
Comfortable with uncertainty and turning complex problems into actionable plans```@hollow marlin anything weird about this network devops post?
hollow marlin
All I see is:
You job is uncertain and the place is on fire most the time, so you'll be forced to learn. Better be comfortable with the idea of losing you job at any moment
waxen scroll
thats one thing, however i didnt post that paRT
hollow marlin
Its just missing the red flag of "we are a family"
waxen scroll
"A believer in asking for forgiveness, not permission" is a massive redflag about the type of people they're hiring as your coworkers
a whole team of cowboys in a production network? hmmm no.
hollow marlin
Nothing is better that jumping into a new design with uncertainty and just winging it. Sorry fixes it all.
waxen scroll
you can only say sorry to your paying customers so much
hollow marlin
Yeah that job looks like a nightmare
It just comes off as short staff, constant cycling of employees so no knowledge stays as newcomers attempt to work while constantly breaking things.
The willing to learn with comfortable with uncertainty are always bad
Your candidates should show their willingness to learn, you shouldnt have to beg for it
waxen scroll
i dont know how people work at startups / hipster companies
most of their posts are just full of redflags
guess some people are just able to consistently put up with bullshit
all the people i know who've tried it, except maybe 1, say its garbage
same with beverage companies for some reason
im sure you remember the r/sysadmin post about one of the beverage companies craigslist jobs lol
ive seen others on linkedin that are redflagged up for beverage but not like this
clear igloo
wow, that's horrible
waxen scroll
generally from what ive seen beverage rarely has broken out roles within IT. its jack of all trades or if there is a network team, you do everything from design to replacing users damaged patch cables
having done a role close to that at senior level, it really messes with your head
unless, of course, you thrive on doing user tasks for some reason
its a really weird dynamic... you feel like you're on a help desk but you're also making decisions
radiant shell
atleast no one will see you miss a strike
waxen scroll
Ouch
thick minnow
Hide_Your_Kids_Hide_Yo_Wifi.
one to one is adhoc?
Bit rusty on network topologies so forgive me
peer to peer?
drowsy fossil
rapid sentinel
thx
waxen scroll
we used to adhoc in class and play worms reloaded
fresh copper
Wi-Fight? Choose channels 1, 6, or 11
Welcome to the LANd of the dead
Someday we’ll find it; that radio connection
You’re gonna need a bigger float
That one is not so good, more of a programming pun than a networking one
little schooner
Should I go NAS or a SAN for a small business dentist office?
There network requirements arent much, just 1gbps link speed to save images to. I was thinking a synology unit would serve them well
fresh copper
I would for sure go with a NAS. I agree that a Synology unit would be great for that use-case
radiant shell
I need some help with a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X. im trying to access a web server thats inside my lan with my domain. i have enabled Hairpin NAT and have it set to switch0 but i just get connection refused when i try and connect. any ideas would be greatly appreciated
radiant shell
no i havnt, would mind explaining how i would go about doing it?
radiant shell
so i just had a friend try the same thing and it worked first time without having to set any DMZ
radiant shell
so i have reset it and updated it, upon adding a port forward and enabling Hairpin NAT it takes me to the router login upon going to my domain
so it is mainly working, however port 80/443 are still redirecting me to the router login page and not my webserver
subtle glen
Had some free time
sturdy mirage
xD
waxen scroll
lmaooooo
cloudflare opens their mouth about big bad verizon and then has their own outage a week later
little schooner
@waxen scroll no wonder I couldn't access my ring doorbell the other day
I am using 1.1.1.1
I've changed our lab back to 8.8.8.8
waxen scroll
i used 1.1.1.1 for a week and then realized its a stupid idea because 1.1.1.1 is hammered with junk traffic constantly
i dont care if its CF hosting it
its cause for concern
little schooner
good point.
hollow marlin
Cloudflare is down again?
hollow marlin
I've been away from my desk so didn't notice
So this was caused by a pinned CPU?
Wtf
waxen scroll
is there finally a post about it?
hollow marlin
One of the comment in that thread have a quote. Not sure if 100%
waxen scroll
@little schooner ecobee died too but curiously their API was alive the whole time
confused why they chose to protect the admin console but not the API with CF
are you passing fire inspections?
hard to tell but the stuff on the top shelf might be in violation
xD
we get yelled at in many jobs for stuff too close to the ceiling
subtle glen
😂 😂 pretty sure if I tell that they will tell me to fuck off
If it's not under the sprinkler I dont see the problem
waxen scroll
i think the problem is the sprinkler cant reach its full area even when its not directly under
*shrug
subtle glen
I know a guy that engineers fire suppression systems, could ask him about that
More concerned about the pallet thats coming tomorrow with phones to inspect and sort out
waxen scroll
used phones!
waxen scroll
people who work at those companies that come into your office and pull all the old gear out.... man... i feel bad
inspecting whats good, documenting, bla bla
nope.
subtle glen
Well, I just have to turn them on, see if the display is good and write on a paper the model and how many are in the box, that's it
Fun thing is that those phones (they already sent 2 boxes) are not from our office, but from another one far away, but since our office has 4 IT's , we have to go to them to troubleshoot or install new stuff and they send us equipment to test etc
thick minnow
Inventorying
little schooner
My teacher told me that he wants to buy a server that is both a sql server and a san. This is not an optimal setup right?
They will use it as a file server as well, with 1gbps network
little schooner
@waxen scroll images of people's dental health I guess
That was what they were going to use it for
waxen scroll
hey @little schooner
hollow marlin
Look at mister fancy and his L3 cloud ☁️
waxen scroll
U just jelly
little schooner
@waxen scroll yeah I've never played with those before
The intern will have a great time...
hollow marlin
@little schooner if an intern touched our Nexus's they wouldn't be interns anymore.
little schooner
@hollow marlin yeah they wouldn't let me touch the schools nexus either. The network admin said that he had to be in the room while we started the first part of the summer project.
Then he retired the entire nexus rack and they moved it to central office
Now the admin just let's us walk in anytime
I love that xD
hollow marlin
I dont mind people being physically around equipment, except for Bill. Bill cannot be around any equipment
little schooner
What irks me the most today is how slow a xeon E5620 cpu is with virtual machines
I dont understand why it takes so long to do basic tasks like downloading updates
Its clocked at 2.5GHz
but still, in virtual machines, it feels like its chugging so badly
hollow marlin
No one understands updates and why they take so long
Now tell me why my Juniper vSRX takes 19mins to boot with a 6700k with 4 cores thrown at it
little schooner
Yes super bizarre
hollow marlin
But on the other hand they take 10mins to boot on real hardware
little schooner
That must mean they are really selective with their hardware. They packed "just enough" and nothing extra
Like most companies do anyway though
strange silo
Finally upgrading our WAN links to 100Gbps each 😃
unreal wedge
Not a Tb/s yet? 
strange silo
Hah nah, the actual path likely is. We have 6 of them so almost 😛
Thinking of pointless ways to test it
unreal wedge
I could think of a few ways to saturate it...
strange silo
Other than just seeding another entire copy of all our disk backups across it
Yea I want pointless but not synthetic pointless lol
unreal wedge
nperf, mirai, loopback flooding...
strange silo
Much more interested in full stack performance, first limit I'm expecting to hit is the backup disk performance
Also that the new 25Gb TOR isn't in yet so only 10Gb to servers
But the backup storage does have 4x 40Gb so all about the spindle count
clear igloo
25Gb TOR? Why not 50Gb TOR?
rapid sentinel
tfw your teacher told you to search about multiple nodes
and only say the word multiple nodes
waxen scroll
mannnn i'd let xeon touch the nexus
little schooner
@waxen scroll I will research before typing in commands if it's a production unit.
=)
heady oracle
Hey people
I just bought a Dell optiplex on eBay , and I'm making a router
What would you choose pfsense opnsense vyos or other,why.
waxen scroll
i would choose a ubnt device TBH fam
its a waste of power to run desktop machines for networking
but hey, if you dont pay the bills...
heady oracle
I would but my plan was runing a VM , splitting the cores 2×2 for let's say pfsense / git server
waxen scroll
ah
well if its on anyway... lol
i cant answer your question, but people here seem to love PF over anything
i use vyos by proxy since im on ubnt
i dont do much with it, i set it up, it just works... nothing special
heady oracle
Yeah well I don't really have a preference
waxen scroll
i think in this case you do you.... its a VM... you hate it, get a new one
heady oracle
I won't do much either , infact I was running fine with my home Linksys router/ap but it's been overwhelmed recently, and since my git server using Asus tinkerboard is also bottlenecked I decided to kill 2 birds with one stone.
I was running openwrt though
Yeah I guess
waxen scroll
how is the router getting overwhelmed?
if its a link thing the issue could follow you to the VM
heady oracle
Well it's a 6 years old router with at least 40 devices connected to the router any moment
Linksys wrt 1200ac
waxen scroll
wow... 40, eh?
heady oracle
Yeah most of it lan but still
waxen scroll
what are you doing for wifi? once you change
heady oracle
I will use the Linksys as a ap
little schooner
I use pfsense in a VM for a VPN connection but it's really nasty setup with NAT rules
Ultimately I will get rid of this setup it's too complicated
I'm NATting only to NAT again and use static routes in order for my clients to reach the internal network from the outside
That's where @waxen scroll helped me with a DNS issue. That wouldn't happen if my pfsense was the main router
heady oracle
So what's you main router
little schooner
Its an Edgerouter poe5
so its like this:
Cable modem --> edgerouter Eth0 --> Edgerouter Eth1 --> Switch --> Hyper-V Server 10G intel nic1 --> pfsense VM
PFsense has two interfaces, one in lan (vlan) one in wan (another vlan)
it was super tricky to set it up this way but I will replace edgerouter one day
and do pfsense at the main
I had to NAT to my pfsense VM if it hit certain port
then i needed a static route to vpn network
and another config change to handle dns properly
dnsmasq
ideally, you want pfsense to be your main to avoid such problems
heady oracle
Yeah you don't want to over complicate it for no reason
waxen scroll
the only complaint i have about edge routers are they are terrible at surviving power loss more than a few times
the storage can corrupt
little schooner
@waxen scroll yes i believe it can happen. I've left mine connected to UPS so im happy I haven't encountered that problem
waxen scroll
im too cheap to UPS and im not sure my wall mounted rack can support the weight. its also not a full depth rack
little schooner
hey its better than my wire style rack xD
waxen scroll
yep
little schooner
waxen scroll
out of sight out of mind. none of the equipment uses fans, i dont notice it
little schooner
whoops that was for router xD
I am using phpipam to manage ip addresses.
I like how it has a way to query hostname and ip ranges and export everything to xls
waxen scroll
lmao. i put that in at my old job for our lab because the prod system wasnt managed by me
little schooner
its better than netbox in my opinion
netbox has a weird requirement of needed a model and brand name
also doesnt have reports
waxen scroll
it has its downfalls but for most small needs its decent
little schooner
@waxen scroll do you prefer DHCP reservation or static ip for servers?
waxen scroll
at home?
little schooner
In a lab environment
heady oracle
Ill get ups down the line, it's a big investment
little schooner
At home I use DHCP reservation
@heady oracle they are cheap. Mine was the smaller cyber power units
waxen scroll
static IP (not static DHCP), and the subnet has maybe 30 DHCP addys so servers can come online and access the imaging tool
little schooner
Good to see the preferences
@waxen scroll you haven't worked with domain controller before have you?
waxen scroll
i have, limited
heady oracle
I tried once , gave up on it
little schooner
There's this one mistake I made. I created the domain controller with lowercase host name. Since I did that, I am no longer able to verify replication status due to an error
The solution is to make it uppercase
But I fear that I might break replication or something
waxen scroll
dunno. ive seen mostly lowercase hostnames for AD
little schooner
For the domain controller?
waxen scroll
DC and all devices
little schooner
Yes, it technically works but group policies are having a hard time to sync
Like they'll exist on one DC but not the other
Because of the lowercase name error
waxen scroll
what did the packets say?
little schooner
Hahahaha
I didn't check the packets but I found a document by Microsoft that said I need to change a registry setting
To uppercase
waxen scroll
last job was lower case... i just typed "set l" into cmd on my work laptop, its uppercase
little schooner
Hmm
I'm probably the outlier
I will get to look at it again tomorrow
But the prof is loving the new environment. We got MDT rolling and it takes care of drivers and app installs and deployments
little schooner
I had no idea that there was a searchable website for documentation on mysql
I just learned like 10 new things that helped me solve phpipam upgrade issues
Good ol docs
hollow marlin
Got to be on the road today to deploy our switches. Fucking love days like this
subtle glen
how is the room where there are only routers/voice gateways/ATA's etc called? Connection room or still server room?
fresh copper
Probably still called a server room but I suppose you could also call it a network distribution room or something like that
shrewd root
Having some trouble connecting to a rdp
I've gone through most troubleshooting videos on yt and it still doesn't work... :/
waxen scroll
@subtle glen it's called an mdf or idf
Or if you're in a data center specifically, sometimes a pop or meet me room or just a generic server room
fleet widget
What's the modern day network equivalent to a nasal spray, for backbone infrastructure?
unreal wedge
*Rebooting the main router of a DC. That'd be some nasal spray for ya.
strange silo
@clear igloo Because we need the port count/density more than the bandwidth per port
@little schooner We use DHCP reservation for servers (other than DC, DNS and DHCP). We have a web management interface we created where you register assets and create network interface records and IPs are registered in a database so you just select the subnet and click assign IP and it pulls out an unused one etc. Pure static IP management is a pain in the ass. Desktop/laptops also require entering in to the management interface but you don't assign it an IP (unless you need it static) just the mac address, nothing can get an IP without registering the mac address.
Also the magic that actually makes it all work is the database is used to build the DHCP server config which runs on a 5min cron job
same for dns
clear igloo
@strange silo Unacceptable! You need SFP-DD optics for 100Gbps down to the host at 48 ports per RU 😄
None of that is being made yet but you can imagine it, lol
sturdy mirage
i was also thinking that 100g SFP's are not existing yet
clear igloo
I know the spec is nearing finalization, or I think it is
sturdy mirage
100g is not reserved for QSFP stuff ?
clear igloo
Not anymore, no
With 400Gbps launching and 800Gbps probably not too far behind, 100Gbps down to the host in a more dense form factor makes sense
Not for everyone, but for the largest hyperscalers and data centers that need the most density per port it does
clear igloo
Yah, I only stumbled across it a little while ago, I see version 3.0 of the spec was published in April so hopefully in the next year or two they start moving towards production of switches and SFPs
strange silo
@clear igloo Many of the servers don't even fully utilize the 10Gb connection they have lol
clear igloo
Yah, most servers don't. 25Gb is going to be fine for a while except in a few use cases 😃
strange silo
That's changed a fair amount since going HCI with Nutanix but I actually see that as a drawback to HCI in general
clear igloo
converge all the things into 1! 😄
strange silo
Before with a nice storage array network data transit was much different or not required, I..E SAS or FC did most of it
Now every damn read and write is spewed everywhere
strange silo
So I guess it makes all the network people happy that want better/more cool toys lol
little schooner
@strange silo I'd like to getting something like that running too. The DHCP management interface by selecting through subnet and stuff.
It sounds like it would be possible with Dnsmasq and some scripts
Or I could be mistaken
strange silo
Well it's the best HCI platform on the market but I'd still take a all flash Netapp and HPE hosts any day
clear igloo
To be fair I've not looked at much of the HCI market, have you looked at Hyperflex at all? I'm wondering how it actually compares to others on the market
strange silo
HCI big sales pitch is scale out and how storage arrays can't do that and I'm sitting there always going "But Netapp FAS can do that"
clear igloo
I've seen a small glimpse of Netapp all flash and some Pure Storage but that's about it
strange silo
And FAS can distribute load across all controller heads
So like what exactly does HCI give over that....... #marketing
clear igloo
#marketingIsALLYouNeed!!
strange silo
And not really looked at Hyperflex
Nutanix, vSAN, Simplivity and what ever that Huawei garbage is called
clear igloo
lol
strange silo
just don't
anything but that
and now they can't even sell it because of the trade issues with the US
clear igloo
Yah, even we think it's stupid =/
clear igloo
ooof
strange silo
yea dunno if that is public or not but meh
they did the whole emergency meeting with us about it a month ago
order now or RIP
if we had just kept with HPE we could have gone with Aruba for the wireless
clear igloo
#butcheaper?
strange silo
yea but that was a lie
clear igloo
lol, sounds about right
strange silo
HPE is still super salty about it
they were in today and made a very well timed and deep cutting joke about it
clear igloo
Lets just say I know a customer trying to go with Vendor A for a segment of their network because the boxes are "cheaper" but once you factor in services and other stuff they come out more expensive
strange silo
these boxes being servers?
clear igloo
No, switches
strange silo
oh few because those are even worse, like to be fair the huawei network equipment is actually darn good but not cheaper
and support is bad
clear igloo
They want dual vendor, which I get to an extent, don't want single vendor vulnerability but then to complain about vendor lock in when the other vendor has the same lock in is just dumb
strange silo
If I email you in English I don't expect Chinese back, how hard is that
vendor lockin is stupid arguement
strange silo
especially when they implement a vendor management solution to manage the multi vendor deployment so you're locked in to that vendor
gj idiots
clear igloo
Exactly!
strange silo
Don't worry moving everything to the cloud will fix all those problems 😉
clear igloo
Yah, move your ethernet connections to the cloud 😉
Who needs any vendor when The Cloud will save us
strange silo
Because did you know the cloud is so resilient backups and DR isn't required?
clear igloo
Yup, and it's all around us
strange silo
That was both a joke and literally something one of our previous CIOs said
clear igloo
That doesn't surprise me, I think it was LZDanger who told me he knew someone trying to move their phones to the cloud
strange silo
Which the only solution to that is
Pitty there isn't a better place in my city to work for, the pay and working hours are great
the idiocy and no strategic plan not so much
waxen scroll
who needs HCI
go buy azure
@clear igloo we have budget for N9k and i asked them to sneak in a white box so we can play
then someone mentioned "you can run those OS on some aruba"
whats the point then
lol
why not just run aruba OS
clear igloo
lol
strange silo
Wait what? Run a different OS on Aruba hardware? Why?
waxen scroll
dunno :X
if you're buying white boxes, why go back to aruba.... if you're aruba why offer the OS if i still have to buy into your switch hardware
something we're missing
maybe theres a market for companies who dont get the warm fuzzies from buying supermicro but they automated using a white box os?
clear igloo
Yup
strange silo
tbh I don't get warm fuzzies from buying supermicro
waxen scroll
im still waiting for the IOS-XE that runs on anything
clear igloo
I'm waiting for this stupid Java class to die >.<*
waxen scroll
and when it does happen i bet cisco gets greedy with it early on so nobody adopts it and they wave their arms around like "we dont understand!"
VMware got greedy
clear igloo
NX-OS already runs on white box stuff, IOS-XE isn't too far behind I bet
waxen scroll
i hear the license model for NSX and ESX are all screwed up now
it used to be per core, now its like per VM.. idk i forget what i was told
clear igloo
Yah, it's weird
waxen scroll
also yes. we have a team wanting to move phones to azure
we have another unrelated team who did move phones to the cloud already
strange silo
NSX has been too expensive for most everyone for ages
waxen scroll
but thats over MPLS and with a provider who specializes in phone hosting and does this as a service
that thing has been live for about a year and no complaints have come to my attention
average complaints wont, it has to be bad
strange silo
but how you do you use if your phone is in the cloud? 😛
waxen scroll
softphones and hardphones can register with the gateway thats hosted in the cloud
strange silo
that was a joke 😃
waxen scroll
bleh
strange silo
I specialize in bad jokes
how does 700GB of data turn in to 900GB+?
rsync one dir to another, the source is 725GB, it's copied 900GB so far and still going
strange silo
that's a shit ton of over head
waxen scroll
*shrug
strange silo
copying from local disk to NFS mount on same server
strange silo
yea
waxen scroll
let xeon figure it out
needs more experience
@clear igloo i tried asking the boss if i can make DC ops nascar the N7k blade replacement
take a chassis down, replace... while it boots take the other one down
have outage during booting
he said he wants to change the design so that each VDC gets its own dedicated blades and no sharing
😦
so i cant 1:1 swap
this change is gonna be a long night
strange silo
do it live!
waxen scroll
it is live. we're a 24/7 operation
we can take a little outage but not a long one
we have this special window for work like this and even with that window the business is still assholes about getting such changes approved
clear igloo
Don't get approval, just do it!
waxen scroll
"EH MUH GAWD NAAAOOOO. I know everyone approved this but my snowflake dev needs to patch one server during your window which is extremely important for future network health. My team is denying the change, reschedule."
petty shit like that does happen
strange silo
lol wtf so now the used space has gone down, rsync still running
waxen scroll
im tempted to create a network review board (our 6th board i think?) and force all teams to get MY approval before they can patch a device on my network
then i can start mass denying and go "so this is how your review board treats other people. are you ready to stop?"
strange silo
You actually do RFCs? There's your problem
waxen scroll
yes, those are extremely important. i know its annoying but it needs to be done
strange silo
RFC is more an FYI I have done it 😛
waxen scroll
its helped massively in my career. if a device goes down i can identify the work that was done, reverse it if i cant contact the person who did it, and bla bla bla
the problem is that you're not supposed to have 6 review boards... it needs to be 1 or 2
other lines of business shouldnt be dictating what i can and cant do on my equipment
strange silo
One of our favorite past times is trolling our change manager with all the 'changes' we have done, that we haven't actually done which is why he doesn't know about them
waxen scroll
i used to open massive amounts of latent changes (recorded after the fact) for operational fixes... now some companies are cracking down hard
last job they didnt give a shit if something was down... i had to open a change, wake up a manager, get the approval button pressed
idiots.
strange silo
yea we call those a retrospective RFC which is then by default an e-cab
no matter how small
waxen scroll
its so stupid
career change managers are the worst
i agree with change management as a concept, but some people took the basic principals and just ran with it
strange silo
and nothing is more annoying than a minor change being denied or delayed when it's clearly stated no outage and no risk of outage but someone with zero technical background for some reason gets worried and doesn't want to approve it
waxen scroll
haha yeah
strange silo
which when your cab consists of 15 ish non technical people the chance of that shit is high, real high
so fuck you I'm going to troll you to make up for your bs lol
waxen scroll
our system has an impact field for "no impact" and it bypasses all the review boards, but not your manager.... i try to use them for that type of change where the outage risk is 0.001% or whatever
wanna know some funny shit? 😄
strange silo
all changes are covered by an rfc?
waxen scroll
i took change manager training along with some other non-manager coworkers and the approver was not paying attention and granted it... so me and some other coworkers just auto-approve eachothers changes
strange silo
haha
waxen scroll
its one of those "well, you rarely cause outages... so im not gonna read the change and just hit the button" agreements
strange silo
I went on our incident management training and have all our incident policies including how they should be classified, which is highly amusing when
The phone system goes down for one of the campuses and somehow it's not a P1 when the matrix clearly shows it should be
waxen scroll
wow.
strange silo
Because P1 causes too much work so lets just all it a P2
waxen scroll
the problem with the P is theres hidden politics involved sometimes
a P1 might mean they're required to open war rooms, call the CIO, etc
waxen scroll
yep
strange silo
etc etc
waxen scroll
so i get why it starts as a P2 first
strange silo
but again it's like 5000 staff without phones on a campus with ~8k students
and health and safety pretty much requires it to be a P1 anyway
waxen scroll
last company was actually tattling on you direct to the CIO if you opened a latent change... so theres politics with change levels too
strange silo
there's always politics but a lot of the time it's 'what ever gives me the least work'
so wish rsync told you how many files to copy and how many have been copied
--progress isn't actually that informative
waxen scroll
;\
unreal wedge
It technically tells you its progress, until it loads in the next batch of files.
fresh copper
I believe there is some way to have it check all the files that need to be copied first but it’s slower when you do that
shrewd root
Anyone got any CHEAP windows vps?
unreal wedge
We should honestly ban the word cheap here. You'll never find anything "cheap" that's also good.
waxen scroll
This is #networking , I think junn is looking for #server
unreal wedge
r/ChannelsThatDon'tExist
little schooner
I gave my dad a wifi upgrade the other day with an unifi AC LR. He went from 4.6mbps down, 4.43 up to 55 mbps down, 6.7 up outside on 2ghz.
5ghz was a full 170 mbps down and 6.7 up.
Possibly the best $100 spent
vague fiber
Unifi has been great for me at home. Buying a full unifi setup - usg, 16 port poe switch, few APs and their cloud key (they’re gonna try out their poe cameras for security too) - for my in-laws house that’s being built.
My first purchase from their line was also an ap for myself at home and I’ve enjoyed it. Then having to be your standard it/networking guy for family and being able to do anything remotely fairly easily has been great.
hollow marlin
@little schooner aftery recent with testing Ubi in production makes me not want to touch it again.
I'll stick with Mikrotik at home
little schooner
@hollow marlin I can agree that not every unifi deployment is smooth sailing. But what issues did you encounter?
I know the stable firmware for the edgemax line is basically a beta test
Ubnt devs push out firmware that has things broken that once were working in v1.10.9
Finally, SwiftKey didn't fight me when I typed out that build number
hollow marlin
@little schooner we ran a test with a small conference with about 100-200 clients. I setup a SRX300 with a Unify controller and two AC Pro HDs. What happened is live test worked until about 25 clients connected and then DHCP just stopped. I stopped receiving discovers ont he SRX. So here we are live during a conference and connection down because fucking shit software can't handle bootp packets.
After googling this is a well known bug that has been improved but still a problem.
If a network device can't handle simple DHCP it doesn't belong in a network
little schooner
Weird. I've read about this DHCP problem in the forums but I've personally never encountered it. But in the classroom lab, we will finally see if we got the same problem when 30+ are connected to it
Not sure what it could be and it's not like they have a support phone number anyway.
vague fiber
Interesting. I’ve only set it up for home use so haven’t ran into any sort of issue. I think I’m at 15-20 wireless devices connected at most times. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
hollow marlin
Yeah that one fail alone made me ok with Ubi to never touching it again. My friend works for an MSP that mainly deploys them for small businesses and never had the issue.
I think it has to do more with me not having FULL Ubi, switch , router
little schooner
@hollow marlin I don't have the full ubi router and switch. I don't like the ubi switch or router. The edgemax line has more control
Ultimately I want to replace both with gear from Fs.com to give them a try
@hollow marlin in the lab at school though we are using pfsense with Cisco 3560G switch
No problems yet but as soon as we get students we will uncover it
The wrong switches were purchased and are coming and I told my prof we needed a single 48 port switch with 4 sfp+
I had to work hard to convince him to return the one that's coming so we can buy the right one
The sales guy was hounding him like crazy to buy buy buy now now now
hollow marlin
@little schooner don't let sales guy push you. Especially if you buy little amount of equipment from them, just show them you have a quote elsewhere and they tend to back off and give you what you want
little schooner
I hope it just works out in the end. As long as we dont open up the box of the equipment
waxen scroll
Let him push
little schooner
The only thing we're missing is the switch. Then everything is complete. The dual monitor stands are in place and cable management is miles better than before
Now there is no more cables hanging off the desks. It's all tucked away nicely with cable fasteners
mild turtle
Can someone explain something to me. I installed Cat6 in the house and had no problems for about six months now. You could download games and someone else wouldn't have downtime in connection. However just now someone else was downloading a game and I was down well over quad the speed I usually get. It's also almost four in the morning so as far as I know it's not even peak time. We have a router/modem with a single cable running to a switch that splits to two cables. So far there the only two cables connected. Any idea why tonight it decided to suck all bandwidth through one line?
little schooner
Is there a reason why it splits into two cables? Why not a two cables? The modem only has one port for copper cable?
Also, in my situation, my download speeds tanks due to an edgerouter problem where the link downgrades to 100mbps (cannot determine if its cable or the edgerouter, but i've been told that its likely cable)
at that speed, people can easily max out the download speed with a steam game download and ill notice it
verify the cabling is good and try with a single cable
whats the baseline speed you get with single
then try again with the split cables
winged siren
Hey Guys.
Im Big stuck...
My Intel I219-V Drivers uninstalled themselves, my pc cannot connect to the internet, i have downloaded the drivers onto a usb. Im trying to manually install the drivers through device manager but there a heaps of install files and i dont know which one to do.
I have tried to just run the install files from my motherboard disc i have but it continues to display "Cannot install drivers. No intel (R) adapters are present in this computer.
REEEEEEE this is so frustrating and i dont even know what to do... Someone please help me!
thick minnow
first this is a tech help one and try disabling it in control panel and re-enabling it
winged siren
Already Tried that, and again, nothing happens...
thick minnow
use this .exe
thick minnow
first it may seem like a stupid question but have you turned it off and on again
if yes un-plug re-plug the card
winged siren
Like restart the pc, yes.
Unplug the motherboard??
fresh copper
Drivers are the worst
thick minnow
yes they are fickle
little schooner
They don't recommend install latest dch Intel drivers through device management. @winged siren
It causes more problems
little schooner
@winged siren looks like by the .exe file that you download
note that it says if you dont do it initially, it can result in catastrophic instability
Hold on, my screenshots are getting scaled wrong
winged siren
right, i see now, good thing i havent done so
winged siren
Im downloading the intel lan driver from the gigabyte website from my mobo page
little schooner
It's not if. It will
Okay.
@winged siren What version of windows are you on? 1903?
winged siren
10
winged siren
1903
little schooner
clean install?
if its clean install, windows 10 requires all the drivers to be DCH i believe
winged siren
sorry, no 1809
little schooner
okay
well if the one from gigabyte doesn't work, i suggest try downloading the latest one from intel, but use their .exe installer
and make sure you are downloading for correct device. They have an installer that packs all the drivers for a lot of adapters that you can try if one driver package isn't working for you.
winged siren
@little schooner Well, the drivers from the gigabyte website still come up with in intel (R) adapters are present in this computer...
and i have tried the one from intel previously
winged siren
What should i do now?
winged siren
@thick minnow @little schooner Bios Update did not work....
winged siren
Really? lol
i guess, i could buy a usb to ethernet maybe, i do have temporary access to a wireless network card, but i might need drivers for that ffs
thick minnow
i would get a pcie eth0
this has good reviews and its in usd idk where you are from so
winged siren
aus
Is it really necessary to buy a whole pcie card, can i use the wireless pcie card i have?
i do have a cd so that should have drivers on it
little schooner
Why does fluke gear command such a high price over other cable testers that are like $130?
hollow marlin
@little schooner because it's Fluke. It's just like apple tax but the hardware is bullet proof
fresh copper
Fluke definitely has their version of the Apple Tax but at least for them they make amazing products. Main thing is the reliability, you could use these things for 100 years and they would still work. They can take a huge beating too. I highly recommend them for professional situations. For hobby, you can probably get away with something cheeper though
little schooner
@fresh copper yeah like something basic like this
But I love the premium tools. I strong dislike using inferior products because they've bitten me badly before. Like cheap Keychains and cheap laptop chargers and cheap vacuums
Inferior quality irks me
But you get nice stuff like drills from ryobi that are good value
Or stuff from local hardware store that's just good but extremely discounted
But I have some cheap disposable gloves that frankly I wished I paid a little bit more for more quality. The ones I have rip super easily just puting them on. Inferior quality
fresh copper
I usually try something middle of the road when it’s just part of my hobby. I’ll always go all the way for the high quality stuff if it’s for work though
little schooner
The last brand I bought were like premium disposable gloves
they would be excellent still after some dish washing
no rips
@fresh copper middle ground would be something like the klein tools vdv scout tester
fresh copper
Yea, I don’t remember what mine is but I think it’s something like that
little schooner
Although I appreciate the cable certifier functions of the fluke. I think i've bought a cable that said its CAT6 but its really CAT5E inside
hollow marlin
@little schooner you wouldn't know otherwise unless your trying to blast 10gig towards the limit
subtle glen
i use my multimeter, some thin wires and sometimes a keystone as an ethernet cable tester lol
waxen scroll
i use my eyes
little schooner
@hollow marlin yeah, well theres this one port that we dont know if its supports 10g or not
Im hoping it does, the network admin wont say
waxen scroll
ive made hundreds of cables and patches already. in professional work i would use a certifier
little schooner
frankly because he runs away from us
the ms-poe unit has a 10g test port that i can plug into a see distance and stuff
that would be good to know if we are using sfp+ copper
little schooner
@hollow marlin Im just a volunteer there now during the summer lol, but I think he changed his hours to part time
he'll leave early and we'd be there til 8pm
we have more dedication
I dont know how early he comes in but he leaves by 11am and then we cant find him anymore
its so weird
again, this is probably workplace politics going on in the school
hollow marlin
If you really want to know if it's 1 or 10gig just slap a 10gig on your end and check for a link
little schooner
We dont have a 10g nic to test with
yet.
the switches would be the ones with sfp+ modules first
then we have to beg the grant money person to buys us some intel nics
the grant money guy is on vacation but hes back next week =D
hollow marlin
I can't imagine the nics being too expensive, a lot of mobos are coming standard with 10gig
little schooner
Yeah, our new dell poweredge servers came with two ports built in
but they are used in the server room that the network admin and supervisor controls access to
Our classroom doesn't have that expensive gear yet
also we need 4 of these that the grant guy will probably cringe at https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/products/Rack-PDU-Switched-1U-15A-100-120V-8-5-15/P-AP7900B
subtle glen
those are some expensive pdu's
little schooner
Yeah, the cost comes from the fact that they're network managed and rack mountable. but mostly the network remote switching
subtle glen
my raspberry pi with a relay attached to it can do remote switching xD
little schooner
Yes, api support too
its awesome
but due to the college politics, they may be hard to get.
we will see what happens.
We asked for additional rack space on wednesday in the server room. They were going to see if an old air conditioning type thing could be removed for us to fit another rack
subtle glen
in the enterprise i was doing the intern i was expecting some overkill server room stuff. got pretty disappointed
hollow marlin
We have a ton of the non-rackable versions of those, I never realized the price. Not worth it at all for $500
little schooner
@hollow marlin I know, thats what my professor said when he saw them
he said they will be hard to push and ask for
subtle glen
no smart pdu's, only 2 out of 6 racks were "full" cause, you know, virtualization, ups'es that were not configured to shut down the servers automatically etc
and now they want to get rid of all the switches on each floor and run everything off wifi to cut costs
hollow marlin
We have them for SNMP essentially. The "smart features" and almost useless. Even then, if we lose power than SNMP on them is pointless, but my boss insisted
@subtle glen they do realize that if the switches are already there, they are not cutting cost
subtle glen
they said
"there are 3 10k switches in each sub connection room and there are 2 rooms on 3/4 floors"
before the switch dies you are gonna loose support anyways so it's better to change the switch
if you multiply that for all the offices in italy, you realize its expensive
little schooner
The racks we have they already use some apc 16 outlets networked rack pdus
hollow marlin
But if the switches haven't died, why tear them out and throw them away
little schooner
but i cant seem to find model number now
waxen scroll
@little schooner you should be the new netadmin
hollow marlin
And then spend another 100k on an engineer to properly setup wireless for all devices
subtle glen
i know thats bullshit, but they kept saying that its better to get rid of them and leave only 1 in each room for printers and the access points that will have to be replaced to handle all the devices
little schooner
@waxen scroll Its something like this we have in the rack https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/products/Rack-PDU-2G-Switched-ZeroU-30A-100-120-200-240V-2Ph-16-5-20R-7-C13-1-C19/P-AP8970
except it doesn't have 24 ports... it should be 16
The shape is similar
waxen scroll
@little schooner poor netadmin is probably making $50k/yr
little schooner
@waxen scroll i should ask him =p
In order to be network admin here, the requirement is at least a bachelors degree to pass HR requirement
little schooner
same, degrees shouldn't decide who gets to work at a place
waxen scroll
i know plenty of IT people who are degreed and shouldnt be there
little schooner
the experience should carry more weight
hollow marlin
I know many IT people with and without degrees that shouldn't be in IT
little schooner
Hey now, our lab classroom used to have no computers at all but somehow they were teaching students networking course
subtle glen
also can a switch similar to this (i dont know the exact model) cost 10k euros?
little schooner
i cant imagine not having something like packet tracer or being able to use computer for consoling into router and switch
Last professor from years ago taught networking with markers on a whiteboard and
what do you call those things...
hollow marlin
@subtle glen easily
subtle glen
i am expecting that price for their main core switch
but not for a single 48 port one
i've been finding them for around 2k
hollow marlin
@little schooner most coworkers with masters in Telecomunications I know did have a single lab
little schooner
@subtle glen great to see they've changed aesthetic to nice colors like black and silver
compared to series like 2960
subtle glen
lol yea
little schooner
that color is just terrible
subtle glen
with that green-ish color
hollow marlin
@subtle glen yeah for switches you want to go Aruba which are around the price range
little schooner
@hollow marlin my lab consisted of one router and one cisco 2960 switch for ccna training
and then mostly packet tracer
hollow marlin
@little schooner even that is plenty
subtle glen
even for that price i would still want to use the wired network infrastructure instead of going full wireless
little schooner
Yes i agree.
@subtle glen also a lot of deployment strategies dont work over wifi yet
cough mdt cough
but thats just windows =)
hollow marlin
Packet tracer is hands down the best learning tool for netowrking. The ability to show someone step by step how a packet is forwarded and the switch/routing desicions made
subtle glen
go tell them why they should keep the ethernet network
little schooner
My professor made the mistake of saying "If you give us permission, we can flip the other room just like our lab, except everything will be wireless"
not realizing that our strategy requires the copper cable
We've done flipped our lab to something more modern that students can better make use of
I've started using BookStackApp to serve as a documentation repository. I gotta say its pretty nice
We are small so it works out okay.
waxen scroll
@little schooner do ya'll teach RIPv1?
hollow marlin
@waxen scroll who needs RIP when static routes work just fine
waxen scroll
i have RIP in my network
xD
like... a massive RIP network
its a technology limitation with hughes satellite network
actually its our satellite network and our frequencies but the hardware at the remote sites is hughes
its how we multicast and its an expensive ghetto backup solution
nobody can ever agree to ditch it
we have one of these, but its 2x smaller than that photo
hollow marlin
RIP isnt all bad in smaller controlled scenarios
waxen scroll
ive seen it up close, but i have little idea on how it works, someone else is the admin... it connects to our network and i only know that part
we have racks and racks of 1980s or so gear
xD
little schooner
@waxen scroll funny enough, Cisco networking academy stripped it out of the new cirriculumn for ccent or ccna
My professor said it's out so they won't teach it anymore
@waxen scroll that limitation of rip is awful to manage
They can't push software update for it?
waxen scroll
Don't know
unreal wedge
It's Hughes, the name in garbage wannabe ISPs.
"Internet from space" my ass. The atmospheric latency is atrocious.
hollow marlin
Well physics is a bitch. Light can only travel so fast
little schooner
@hollow marlin we should try physics on a different planet for better luck
little schooner
@waxen scroll so huge of a satellite
What if they need to dismantle it and move it somewhere else?
The other question is, what does it take to lift something that big?
waxen scroll
You use another satellite, aim it at the ones in space, start broadcasting
You don't pick up the base station and move it if you need a new location
I'm sure you could... But that doesn't make sense unless you want an outage
It's too big to put on a flatbed, so I'm not sure what you do to disassemble it. I've never seen them assembled
I'm glad I don't have to touch it
I'm paranoid of the radiation
It can melt snow I believe
They let me into the yard in which its housed two weeks ago, but I didn't go right up near it lol
thick minnow
What’s up my dudes?
strange silo
@hollow marlin On that degree topic many computer sciences degrees are largely irrelevant to sys admin and sys engineering. When you look at what you actually do compared to the papers you do over the 3/4 years all that degree is good for is proving you have enough work ethic to get a degree lol
fresh copper
There are a surprising number of degrees where it’s really only the work ethic that maters and not the actual degree itself. That being said, the most important part is actually getting the degree so stay in school, kids
sturdy mirage
@little schooner the microwaves* melts the snow, the energy radiated by receptors are microwaves, ant thse are pretty good a make waterboil as you may know 😃
the exact same thing happens to the water in your body btw
little schooner
@fresh copper yes, I'll stay in school because I want to learn more than what I did from high school
Also it helped me get a connection to work inside server rooms and network labs
gilded spire
hey is there somebody that has a lot of knowledge about radvd and dhcp ipv6?
clear igloo
@waxen scroll Like calc 😄
wispy dragon
when it comes to college, yes you will learn stuff you wont ever use but there is a lot of things which you will learn. Prime example, for my associates degree I was taught on cisco equipment and also server 2016. It allows you to be in an environment where if you break something you dont have to be scared where as if you break something while on the job you may get let go.
Plus, if you have a degree and someone doesnt but you have the same amount of certs and also years of experience, management roles are more open for those with degrees. On top of this the degree will train you for generic topics and give you a wide view where as certs give you training on specific equipment, this is excluding comptia certs
thick minnow
Interesting...
Nothing quite like paying $200 per CompTIA test though lol.
Oh, I’m sorry: $250.
waxen scroll
or $1000 for a CCNP when nobody even checks the cert or seems to care about it when you sign up for jobs
you'd be shocked because seems like so many people lie about CCIE and nobody checks
little schooner
I can't afford to do more certs so I am looking for a company to pay the training
waxen scroll
tell me when you do, cause i havent found one
lol
they'll pay for team training on what they use, but not personal
little schooner
@waxen scroll on reddit I've seen some people get offered
They said company asked them what they want for training
They picked cbt nuggets
waxen scroll
they're telling us "we want you to learn azure, but oh we wont pay for the cert"
little schooner
@waxen scroll yeah they don't see the value in employee investment then
hollow marlin
My current and past jobs pay for training. Nice perk only if you make use of it
little schooner
@waxen scroll looks like @hollow marlin works at a place where they pay for training which technically means paying for cert training too
That's cool
hollow marlin
Yeah I didn't have to pay a dime for my CCNP
Both workplaces see the value of training their employees and how little it cost in the high level view of things
waxen scroll
@little schooner even if you can personally afford the $1000 its 3 or so exams, what happens when you fail. its not very affordable then
😄
they should at least make the retakes $100 or less
hollow marlin
@waxen scroll my job pays if you fail as well lol.
Exam cost for retakes are fucking insane though. Company paying took a lot of anxiety off me about blowing 300
waxen scroll
omfg, that ive never heard of either for companies who do pay
ive been burned by this already on earlier ccnp exams
so im bitter
i had two exams i was one correct question from passing
little schooner
@waxen scroll oh I've haven't failed an exam yet
I'm lucky so far
But yes I see how expensive it can be
waxen scroll
im super confused on the pricing. i dont know if they are assuming employers will pay or if they're aware its mostly people doing it on their own dime
little schooner
It would be nice to use pre-tax dollars to pay for it
Instead of it going to state taxes
hollow marlin
@waxen scroll they expect employers are paying with anything over a CCNA
waxen scroll
like... i want to certify but the taste in my mouth is so sour over the cost, test retakes, and nobody paying that at this point im thinking of giving up doing certs
isnt CCNA $350? yeah its not $1000 but i'd even consider that "someone elses money" cost
wispy dragon
I have 3 years in professional IT, working on my bachelors degree for Cyber Defense and no certs. I am studding for ccent right now then going to get my linux+
thick minnow
I'm conflicted. I'm looking around my area and most entry level help desk positions are asking for A+ certs. I'm trying to study for my ccent, but should I bite the bullet and get the A+ cert to hop into a position now, or wait till I get my ccna?
wispy dragon
contact a contracting agency to get your foot in the door. If you can show your knowledge to them they will back you and get you started
in your resume you will want to put on the first page a brief snip it of your resume focusing on what you have done so far. Also include a section on the first page of hardware and software you have worked with
inner trail
hi
wispy dragon
howdy
little schooner
@thick minnow if nothing else, it will just help you get into help desk positions right now and then you continue to work to better positions
A+ is fastest to get
Doesn't hold value though
I got it junior year but it is very entry level cert
thick minnow
I got a PC pro cert that lasted a year a while ago so I'm assuming the test is similar to that. I may brush up on my concepts and grab one and start applying
little schooner
@thick minnow pc pro? Is that from test out?
I liked their lab simulations a little bit. They were clunky but once I got through them it was a breeze
The videos had some monotone guys but the information was definitely valid
Now a female is reading the scripts which is a refreshing change
thick minnow
The videos were... yeah they were a thing. Yes it was from test out, but also from a few years ago so the cert is null now
little schooner
The room the professor and I are trying to flip is the old computer hardware classroom and change it over to a networking lab
We finished our lab but we want to redo the other room next
Ultimately the dream was to make the room connected with the other
Without a door. It's just one big open room with racks, workstations, switches routers etc
thick minnow
Sounds fun
Good luck with that. I'd like to get my hand on some networking equipment. But we are in the process of downsizing and wont have the space
ebon wasp
meh with simulation you can get basically everything
little schooner
I have a little bit of a problem. We have this Cisco octal cable at school but someone relabeled it by moving the identifying stickers to the wrong rj 45 plugs.
For example, the rj45 labeled "1" is actually 3 and the one labeled "5" is 2.
Is there an easier way to determine which is which without having to plug it into a device to see its light show on access server?
clear igloo
Yes, 1 should correspond to the far end top and 2 below it, moving from left to right I think
little schooner
Okay. At least I have a reference that way when I go look at them again
Top left then down, just like a switch. Cool
clear igloo
Yah, if the pins (not the rj-45 cables) are facing you then it's top left cable on the back is 1
I'll run up to the lab later and double check though 😃
little schooner
@clear igloo we ended up plugging them in wrong in the server room. And in that room, it's blowing so much hot air when we go to the back of the rack
Makes it hard to focus
And with the noise
We were hoping just to follow the way it was labeled, but after testing it, boy were they labeled wrong.
Like someone else messed with the 1-8
clear igloo
haha, that's always fun
subtle glen
what the heck is that cable lol
clear igloo
Octal cable for console access
subtle glen
where do you plug the big connector?
subtle glen
so you can manage multiple devices consoles from 1 device?
clear igloo
Kind of, you telnet/console to them individually as needed to set them up mostly
subtle glen
today i learned something new
oh btw what about that 400 gbps switch?
is it out yet?
clear igloo
They launched as EFT devices, not sure if they are orderable yet publicly
Early Field Trial*
subtle glen
i mean, i dont see anyone buying such a switch for personal use
clear igloo
Of course not
subtle glen
maybe after some time, when the price will decrease
clear igloo
haha, maybe in 10 to 20 years 😛
subtle glen
oh btw look what i found the other day inside a router
seems like those gameboy cartridges
clear igloo
Yup, glad those things are finally dead 😃
subtle glen
hahahahaha
the router was in fact on a shelf in the storage area downstairs taking dust
oak frost
what is that, the flash memory from inside of the router?
subtle glen
ye
oak frost
gotcha
subtle glen
actually now i dont remember if it was a router or a voice gateway
subtle glen
you mean the purple switches?
waxen scroll
yes
subtle glen
Also I like to host everything locally, no arubas xD
thick minnow
Does anyone here own WISPs? If so what's the fastest speeds that you can get to customer's houses?
fresh copper
I don’t own a WISP myself, but I know that the fastest speeds possible with standard CPEs is about 1G but most WISPs get CPEs that support about 400-500mbps.
The actual speeds that the WISP offers are often lower because the PtMP devices on the other side have a limited amount of bandwidth themselves. If there is some backhaul required because the PtMP is not in a location with transit, then there is also the backhaul bandwidth limitation. The top of the line backhaul antennas can get about 2G but again, most WISPs don’t get the very best.
In general, most WISPs I know of, have 100mbps as their max speeds. I know a few rural ones have only 5mbps.
There are a few special situations where 1G is available, usually something where one person is close enough to a city to be able to get 1G and then waves it to their friends that live farther and can only get much slower speeds
little schooner
@clear igloo so we figured out what was wrong with the octal cable. Connector 6 on it was damaged in the pins
We tried seven and that was good enough for us
We only needed to use 6 of the 8 connectors
clear igloo
Yah, those things can be damaged easily if you're not careful
little schooner
Yeah I wonder when it was damaged
I don't remember being forceful
Easy enough to troubleshoot though
The professor was extra happy today. We actually labeled and cable managed
It only took us 4 hours to finish for today compared to 7 hours before
Having things tidy up made it easy to trace and put new wires.
The sound of server room is a bedtime melody because I was falling asleep in there
clear igloo
haha, yup, it grows on you after a bit
little schooner
@clear igloo also, the supervisor told us now that we could have our own private telecommunications room to put these racks in
As of now, we're borrowing space from main IT department closet
But we can't move anything now until next semester due to time constraints
clear igloo
That's cool, at least eventually you'll have your own space 😄
little schooner
@clear igloo my professor also finished buying the equipment for the dentist. The total came out to be like 16 grand
Next week we are doing the job
Will be awesome
clear igloo
Nice, take pictures if possible 😄
thick minnow
Dude, you know what I hate the most?
Stepping on a lego brick?
When people call internet wifi. "Oh yeah, I need to call about the wifi."
That too
Or when they are like "My wifi sucks" Or "I need to get wifi installed."
Sure, get wifi installed., You still need a internet connection.
More like: When your parents call you to fix the internet and you try and explain why it’s down and there like I don’t care why just fix it.
That's annoying too.
All my sister and mom do is just watch netflix and hulu all day long. For 14 hours a day.
When the internet goes out, I never hear the end of it.
"Andrew, Are you messing with the internet again?"
Don’t you just love people like that? People like that have no appreciation for how this amazing infrastructure was built over the years.
My middle name is Andrew.
No one else puts any thought into it at all, they don't know that it's litterly all around them as soon as they walk out.
Nice, I never use my middle name
subtle glen
@clear igloo is it ok to take pics of server rooms xD?
thick minnow
Guess we have something in common.
subtle glen
as long as you hide anything that could expose the company i guess its fine
clear igloo
@subtle glen If there's nothing proprietary I don't see the issue
thick minnow
I don't see why not, but I don't know. I am not staff.
People in general don’t really understand why or how the “Internet” works. They just assume it’s there and that it exists.
Yep
I just laugh whenever I’m on the phone with tech support from like Comcast or whatever and the person is like: “Have you tried shutting off the Gateway for 30s and plugging it back in?”.
If this is all it takes to have a job with Comcast, bruh hire me, id work WAY above that skill level.
I admit I didn't know either at first. I wasn't able to tell the diffrence between a phone splice pod, and a fiber splice pod at first. Then I started to learn.
Yep, that’s what life is about, one big journey of learning and mistake that you hopefully learn from along the way.
I don't think "phone splice pod" is right either. Yep
I try to learn from other people's mistakes before learning about mine.
Hey if your sister and mom piss you off again, set data limits on their specific devices. >:)
Lol, I don't think I can do that with the equiptment I have.
Which ISP do you have?
Spectrum
subtle glen
i once set up qos to give my pc priority instead of all the other devices
thick minnow
Ah, IDK maybe it’s possible to use like an APP or maybe within the router website interface set data limits to a device?
Just spitballing there.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
clear igloo
Nice
subtle glen
wish they took more care of it
clear igloo
I can identify everything but the two bottom right beige/white boxes
subtle glen
ah, i remember he explained to me what those are
i only remember its old hardware just left there
i dont understand what those switches with only 2 things connected to them are, like in the right rack, from the bottom, the black switch.
there is an ISP tag so i guess it's used as media converter?
clear igloo
Yah, it's a Metro Ethernet switch
subtle glen
for what i've understood, they just dont care that much
wish i took a picture of the other racks that connect half the floors
also for some reason they dont plug everything in the patch panels, then people complain that the ethernet plugs in the little manholes dont work
little schooner
It's funny me and my professor were there at the building until 6pm while everyone else in the office already left before 1pm. He was jokingly saying that the people who don't get paid are the ones who stayed the longest
Heh I asked him if his vacation is happening now and it is. He is spending it back at the college with our projects for the students
Lol
subtle glen
in fact i wasnt paid and i asked to stay longer
little schooner
It's fun work, especially the troubleshooting part of it
We didn't know if it was the patch panel, mislabeled, or the octal cable at fault
We worked it one by one with labels
Brady maker
subtle glen
when the network broke while i was there, they didnt ask us to come and help troubleshooting, mainly because it was something that had to be fixed as quick as possible and they couldnt explain to us the issue
they later explained to us what happened and the procedure to troubleshoot
little schooner
Reactionary it sound like
subtle glen
like, the 3 switches were on so it wasnt a power issue, rebooted the switch, put the 2 fiber links in a loop tho its something you normally dont do, then tried to swap fiber port on the patch panel and that was the problem
i actually found someone that had both ethernet ports of the voip phone connected to 2 ethernet plugs, causing a loop
little schooner
Yeah that'll do it
subtle glen
but internet on that floor was ok, so i guess the switches were properly configured
thick minnow
On open WRT, can you tell what's using so much upload bandwidth?
I have a Netgear WNDR 3800, and you can't tell what what is using the upload speed, or I don't know how.
subtle glen
what about glasswire or something like that
thick minnow
Sometimes computers have software pre installed on the OS that can limit the NICs speed or in this case, your upload speed.
clear igloo
@subtle glen Depends on the device using the upload, if it's not a desktop/laptop and an IoT device then glasswire can't really help but it can help narrow things down though 😃
subtle glen
there are some WRT os based that can do that
but i guess you have to re-flash your router
clear igloo
Yah
subtle glen
or unplug all the devices one by one and see when the upload gets back to normal
hollow marlin
Can WRT do flows? I tried it like 10 years ago and definitely did not have that feature
pseudo blade
So I had some mobile data allowance that was going to expire, so I tethered my phone to my router. Here in Australia, so speeds that can saturate a 100mbps interface are near unheard of, line speeds to my place top out at 55mbps (Thanks, NBN co).
hollow marlin
@pseudo blade that's DSL for you. Understandable why though
strange silo
@pseudo blade Well some places are now offering unlimited mobile data and I actually expect Aus to start offering that soon(ish). Honestly think your mobile network will largely make fixed broadband redundant for a lot of people lol
pseudo blade
Wireless might be the only way forward unless our government stops killing off alternatives. Shame about the whole "shared medium" thing, though.
You can get unlimited mobile data in Aus, it's just very expensive and has irritating caveats.
Can't say I'm not tempted, though. That's very fast and surprisingly consistent.
rich gust
Suggestions for routers going for around $100-$200? Looking for one with an Ethernet WAN connection, along with the ability to dedicate bandwidth to certain devices on your network. Gigabit Ethernet and Wi-Fi 6 would be great as well!
native kettle
Netgear XR500 but it is over $240.
pseudo blade
@rich gust Do you own any wifi 6 devices? What will wifi 6 bring you that previous standards will not? What's your real-world internet speeds?
rich gust
Just wanted one which I know will last, really. Would rather not have to upgrade anytime within the next ~5 years or so.
pseudo blade
I suggest not doing that.
Let me explain. Wifi standards and hardware will become cheaper, and fairly quickly.
I suggest starting with the above questions, and prioritising based on those and your budget.
rich gust
Fair. Thanks for the help, btw 👌
Off the top of your head are there any in particular which you'd suggest?
pseudo blade
You can get away with quite a lot with that budget.
Answer the questions, and I'll give you a suggestion based on them.
Otherwise I can't really help beyond "I LIKE X BRAND" :P
Oh yeah, and how big's the house?
rich gust
Sorry lol, and I don't own any Wi-Fi 6 devices atm. As for the internet speed, I'll be receiving a 100/100 Fios connection within the next few weeks. Wherever the router ends up being, I'll almost definitely be finding a way to route an Ethernet cable there since low latency is quite literally a must for me. Somewhat into Brawlhalla's esports scene.
Currently living in a townhouse with 3 levels. 🤷