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Oh, it was a sales guy...

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We get AT&T sales guys

gritty owl
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Yeah, I was trying to explain I needed good upload speed

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They say they provide fast internet

gritty owl
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not the marketing download speed. haha

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"fast" is not 75Mbps

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Especially when an ISP they're competing against is doing 200Mbps base

gritty owl
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Yep

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And the 1TB cap

brittle mural
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eyes>

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fuck

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lol

gritty owl
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Though 200 Mb/s / 20-30 up vs frontier's 150/150 is one interesting battle now

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cap sure sucks ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Oh, Charter's 200Mbps plan here is 10Mbps up

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owo

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Xfinity's modem/router can do this

waxen scroll
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i only run bridge mode

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u crazy

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This is my grandmother's modem/router

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dont mess up her stuff pls

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MoCA thinkies

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much network

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Yeah

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I wanna see the MDF ๐Ÿ˜„

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wat

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What's that

waxen scroll
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someones in the shower with a phone

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lol

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Oh

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That's a guy XD

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Ummm

gritty owl
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haha, that's a interesting progress bar

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VMware's is better

elfin gust
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@subtle glen that picture of the Juniper ssg20, is it yours device ?

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I'm asking because I'm deciding between a ssg5 or a ssg20, but if there's no vdsl module to the ssg20 then I'll have the ssg5 (I can find both here for about 40 usd)

hushed dome
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wanna get such a bandwith at home too

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but 100Mbit/s ist the fastest available
in the next town i could get 10GBit/s

viscid axle
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currently im at 50Mbit/s but i will be moving soon

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so either i will end up with 150 or 500Mbit/s

viscid axle
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Is is possible to get 10Gbit/s over om3 optical fiber connected to spf ports?

waxen scroll
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Anything's possible if you're willing to pay. You tell the provider what kind of handoff you expect

viscid axle
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lol not internet

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internal home network

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to connect my workstations and NAS

waxen scroll
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Yes, om3 is possible

viscid axle
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because the sfp copper wires are too short

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and rj45 10Gbe switch implimentaions are expensive

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@waxen scroll @clear igloo hello

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@clear igloo we're switching to aruba

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Why...

waxen scroll
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Wireless team was very impressed with it over Cisco

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I don't have the details

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Lol

clear igloo
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@waxen scroll Y u do dis to me ;-;

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I am ded

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๐Ÿ˜„

thick minnow
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@thick minnow wot

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I didn't know they even had that XD

thick minnow
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Well,they were talking about it for a while now.

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Oh

clear igloo
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It seems to have followed a similar pattern to Google Fiber

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Tons of hype and talk but in this case nothing got off the ground

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Yeah

clear igloo
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Google fiber just kind of died a year or two in which sucks

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Nah

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It didn't die

clear igloo
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Well they aren't expanding I guess is a better way to put it

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There are people who have Google Fiber

clear igloo
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Yah, they aren't killing it but it's just stopped expanding

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Yeah

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Aren't you at work thinkies

clear igloo
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yup

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I'm in the car

clear igloo
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shouldn't you be in school?

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No

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School is out

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Who has school in June..

clear igloo
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School is never out

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Go back to school!

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Never

clear igloo
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Get some learnding in

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Learnding?

subtle glen
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@elfin gust yeah thats mine. Currently i am not using it. This model doesnt have gigabit interfaces (i see that the ssg5 doesnt either). I dont know if they sell it with the vdsl module or if it exist but you have to buy it separately.

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@clear igloo @waxen scroll Hmmmm there's another router on this network with 10.0.0.254..... people say it's part of Xfinitywifi...... wtf comcrap

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That's your fault for not using bridge mode

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๐Ÿ’ฆ

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My grandmother doesn't have her own router

waxen scroll
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You can turn Xfinity wifi off I believe

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HOW

waxen scroll
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If it's not an option in the router, you can do support chat and ask them to turn it off

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OH GOD, This router's webgui is super slow

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oh

hallow nimbus
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๐Ÿ‘€

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Just trow router at wall lets see how long it stays om

subtle glen
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or

elfin gust
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@subtle glen I knew I would've to buy it separately, I wasn't sure if it exists, I can only find for the Jnp SRX 200 series... Thanks! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

subtle glen
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remember its a 100 mbps router

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if you are fine with that oke

elfin gust
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It's enough for me

subtle glen
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๐Ÿ‘

elfin gust
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I only need it for firewall/router/modem settings, anything else will be handled by a gigabit switch.

subtle glen
elfin gust
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

subtle glen
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tell me how it goes

elfin gust
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V.92 is dial up

subtle glen
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i mean the adsl 2

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thats not a rj11 plug so i supposed it was a vdsl one

elfin gust
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On my next house there's no adsl available, its only radio signal, vdsl or fiber (expensive)

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Since I'm living nicely with 50mbps I think that 100mbps will be more than enough if available... ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

subtle glen
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whats that plug

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rj 12?

elfin gust
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where?

subtle glen
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the one in the picture

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the adsl B module

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cause the one i have is a ADSL A module with the rj11 one

elfin gust
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I think its RJ45, this is very strange. lol

subtle glen
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๐Ÿค”

elfin gust
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rj45 for adsl

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thats new for me

elfin gust
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POTS is over landlines, I heard about isdn before but never searched for it

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@subtle glen then you should try BNC connections

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@rocky badge whats the purpose of a vlan

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Uhhhhhh

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Tagging packets and separating networks? I dunno

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@waxen scroll

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HMMM

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๐Ÿค”

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Am I correct?
Do I win a prize?

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no

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srry

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job interview failed

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Wot, that was a job interview?

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well, what if it was

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๐Ÿ˜„

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@waxen scroll a storm is approaching... a broadcast storm!

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so you figured out what vlans were made for?

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Nope

waxen scroll
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you were close with that comment

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It can be prevented with VLANs?

waxen scroll
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no, it can be reduced with vlans

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if you have 500 computers, a broadcast is sent to all

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if you split the 500 in vlans, the broadcast in one vlan is limited

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๐Ÿค”

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@rocky badge can you have multiple subnets in one vlan? dennyIshung

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Yes? I think you can but why would you...

waxen scroll
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what if i told you that you made a /24 and need to expand to /23

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uhhhh

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Change the subnet mask?

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255.255.255.0 to 255.255.254.0 ?

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I dunno xd

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in the corp world you need to transition things and not do them at once

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its not a house where you kick 5 devices and done

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waxen scroll
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so how do i add a second address to my cisco?

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I'd ask Lurick

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๐Ÿ˜„

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but then you're not ๐Ÿค”

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I don't know much about Cisco blobsad

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i thought you were training for ccna or something

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Not me....

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@rocky badge omg

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OOOOOOOOF

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Xeon was great.

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So was coal.

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Dang.... AMD

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OH WOW

slow pivot
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lol @ using Intel's line against them

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Yeah...

mellow ibex
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does anyone know of any incredibly cheap pci wired network adapters

slow pivot
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I mean, you can probably throw a stone at Amazon and hit a dozen 100Mb PCI cards that will work

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They were all $10 and up so I was wondering if anyone knew anything cheaper, but thanks anyways

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Amd is trowing some shade

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Oof

clear igloo
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throws shade like AMD

slow pivot
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@quartz bramble i have a bunch; i could send you one if you are really stuck

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@clear igloo @waxen scroll hello

thick minnow
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you can do lots of stuff with vlans

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isp's usually use vlans to separate the services they sell

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thick minnow
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voice in a vlan, internet in other vlan and tv on other

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that way they can secure the bandwith the services need on the same link

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Hmmmmmm

thick minnow
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on the first days of dsl and voice over ip

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sometimes a phonecall would cut the internet

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cuz isp werent using vlans

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novadays the best practice have grown to use vlans to separate services and to organize networks better, it has reached a point that hardware decisions are affected highly on how the vlans are layed on the design of the networks.

slow pivot
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huh?

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with dsl, voice is not sent via IP

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at least in the "early" days

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they used different frequency bands over the same cable, iirc

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Again, perhaps some actual knowledge before demonstrating ignorance

thick minnow
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what are you talking about?

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read my what i wrote then what you wrote

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we are saying the same thing with different angles

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....

slow pivot
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a phonecall would cut the internet but was NOT IP based and a vlan would not have helped.

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How is anything you wrote about DSL and phone service and vlans correct?

thick minnow
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voip

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voip had nothing to do with DSL

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yes, DSL has piss-poor uplink bandwidth, so yeah, that caused some problems, but nothing that vlans could have fixed

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maybe QOS, but that would /still/ impact your internet experience since it was the bandwidth that was constrained, not some rogue IP packet from your VOIP solution smacking into your internet traffic

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i was not talking about the 'age' when they where dividing the phone service from the internet service in dsl with just one of those noise filters

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talking about when the phone service came with the dsl service int he same freq

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as you seem to know old phone service and dsl service work on a diferent freq

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like it does now (I am using such a service), and I can tell you it ain't vlans doing the magic of keeping the VOIP working correctly

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there is QOS on modern VOIP/internet modems (I happen to be on a cable modem)

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not now, phone service now uses not even the 1% of todays bandwiths

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a phone call TODAY

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do nothing

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yes vlans keep the traffic separate for management and security reasons

thick minnow
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i dont know whats your point other than to arguee

slow pivot
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Ok, I misunderstood, you are right

thick minnow
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ive setup voip commutators for call centers down here. i know what is up with vlans

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Although, I wasn't aware that vlans are required for QOS, since I have done tons of QOS on networks without vlans. Maybe makes it easier

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every vendor has its version of qos

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and back in the time some did not even had any

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all you can do is play with the modulation and cut the bandwith and do some magic

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Hi everyone, I'm searching some kind of document management software (enterprise kind of stuff, where you scan your paper document, it goes through some OCR, then it's sorted by document type (bill, administrative document, ...) so you can find them faster than digging through piles of paper).
Do anyone know/uses/have used/have installed this kind of software ? (I'm searching for Open source/free software, it's for home use, even if some paid-software names could be useful to search for alternatives ^^)

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If that could help, I can send scan jobs from my scanner, it outputs the file in a folder which could be scanned from the software (so if you know some kind of software that grabs PDF files from a network folder/FTP to throw it to some kind of document management software, that could help me)

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And, because I'm the kind of guy which always asks for the most precise thing in the universe, I want it to be able to run on Linux (Debian based distro, or at least in a Docker container).

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Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me!

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Hmmm

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Yay, blob is back

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Hai LZdanger

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@clear igloo

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Ooh

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@rocky badge proper lab equipment!

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Lol

slow pivot
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@waxen scroll I'd raise you a Catalyst 5000 series, but that would be silly.

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Ayymd

clear igloo
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@waxen scroll Catalyst 9400, nice

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Lol

clear igloo
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Got confused for a second ๐Ÿ˜›

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I was wondering...

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I saw 9400

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xd

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@clear igloo I got more bad news

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๐Ÿ˜›

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You set it on fire?

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Some of our new sites are switching to HPe

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Switches

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Just decided today

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HPe EWWW caps caps

clear igloo
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Gotta keep all sides on their toes ๐Ÿ˜›

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Some switches at school are ProCurve switches

clear igloo
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L2 or L2/L3 switches?

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L2

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@rocky badge nobody ever got fired for buying HPe

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Coal was cool
So was HPe

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XD

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Cisco was cool, so was coal @clear igloo

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Jk

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ouch ;-;

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Skype was cool, so was coal

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The fact is @rocky badge nobody needs all those features. A white box does just as good for less than half the cost of cisco

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๐Ÿ‘Š

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dies

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Nobody needs security, just permit ip any any is all you need ๐Ÿ˜›

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shutdown ports each day after hours

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@waxen scroll lol

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@clear igloo Do it

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Best security is to deny ip any any and shutdown all ports, nobody needs that newfangled "internet"

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Heck, just kill the power to that SEEE PEEE EWWW

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Noooo

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No internet?

viscid axle
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internet is gay anyway

subtle glen
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no way, this thing can detect other dhcp servers

clear igloo
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Yah, that's easy. Part of how DHCP works

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Wow....

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thats amazing

clear igloo
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All servers that get a request respond, first to respond gives out the IP but the others still answer too

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why doesnt this thing have gigabit ethernet ports ๐Ÿ˜”

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i could use it between the switch and the modem so it acts as a firewall but all the pc's get gigabit connection between eachother

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not having gigabit

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Only have ten meg

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lol

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i think those routers are a lil bit expensive

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why no gigabit ffs๐Ÿ˜ก

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@clear igloo at what price IRL for personal things do you start to go "huh. this is expensive" ?

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Depends on the thing

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thats the right answer, lets focus on tech

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Like if someone said "Here's a $500 automatic air vent" I would call that stupid expensive

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But if someone gave me a Nexus 93180 or something for $500 that would be super awesome ๐Ÿ˜„

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Lol

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oh @subtle glen means firewall not router i think

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GG

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yes, throughput is how they get you

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๐Ÿ˜„

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also asa's suck

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buy fortigates

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๐Ÿค”

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U wot now

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fite me m8

clear igloo
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fite begins

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clear igloo
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I don't have Discord Premium thing

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๐Ÿ˜›

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Oof

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@rocky badge one time, at an old job, a senior security person TERRIBLE at their job had 2x ASA w/ firepower module installed

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they ran all DC traffic through it

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and they turned on EVERY. FEATURE.

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XD

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Lol

clear igloo
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Was it at least a 5585-X?

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i dont remember, i think it was less

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How much useless boring facts do you know about Cisco... @clear igloo

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Do you know where the logo comes from @rocky badge

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but we had mystery "network blips" and it took us MONTHS to narrow it down to the firepower (the engineer quit before this)

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No @clear igloo

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@waxen scroll lol

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Golden Gate Bridge ๐Ÿ˜›

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Really?

clear igloo
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the internal network link in hardware between ASA and FP had drops

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lol, for a DC that's not surprising the internal link couldn't handle it

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Lol

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hey @rocky badge if my internet is provided over the MPLS and I want to add an internet circuit to my router, what do i need to do?

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Call a plumber

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@waxen scroll wait what

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@rocky badge what should i consider in a hybrid routing situation

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What

clear igloo
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4G backup with an ethernet circuit

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MPLS only if absolutely needed ๐Ÿ˜›

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What

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I don't know any of this

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thats why im getting you ๐Ÿค”

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you got this fam

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fam

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@hollow helm do the LMG staff ever talk here? i must be missing it all

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"here" as in anywhere here

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Jake does now and then.

Luke and Linus have popped their heads in once or twice but not all that often

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sad. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Linus has 71 messages in pilot chat

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well yeah, thats a beta product

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i guess i wouldnt want to be on works chat either after hours

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๐Ÿ˜„

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๐Ÿ˜„

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Hey guys! Just wanted to say that I've just managed to get Nextcloud up and running on my laptop, and I'm happy to help anyone else set it up on their server if they want it! Super easy to install and set up port forwarding (it took me a couple days to figure out why I couldnt access it using my subdomain but I figured out that I'd used the wrong boxes for the ports...) and dyndns so I highly recommend giving it a shot! Maybe it's even something someone at LMG could go through in a video? That'd be cool.

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ik literally everyone else here is a nerd and is more than likely capable of setting up a home webserver with https but if you want any pointers on getting it set up, just hook me up.

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Better yet, put a 1RU server in a DC ๐Ÿ˜‰

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@wooden osprey savage.

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@waxen scroll @clear igloo hello

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This is LZ with networks, have you logged an incident with the service desk?

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No

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Sorry sir, this is level 3 support... you need to call level 1

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๐Ÿ˜„

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i dont miss support. now it has to be pretty bad before i hear about it

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and when i cant fix it, i send it to a @clear igloo at cisco

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then some how the QoS SME for cisco jumps on a plane and meets me

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@clear igloo yep. i met the guy, he even wrote the book for cisco

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xD

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wot

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his name is Tim

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Tim Cook

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jk

elfin gust
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Hello everyone

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Hello

elfin gust
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does anyone here recomend the Netgear FVS318G for a small network, home stuff..

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?

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I know its in the VPNFilter hacked list

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it's discontinued, but besides this theres another major issue with it?

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@waxen scroll should I run ESXi, make a Windows Server... Then use a machine to RDP into that VM for parent access? because my parents need a computer ๐Ÿ˜„

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do you have the proper CALs to allow for that? its illegal otherwise

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๐Ÿ˜‰

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xD

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It's the MS Imagine version of Win Server... so I can't use it in production anyways ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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if they need a computer how does RDP help? you need a computer to RDP into another

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Yeah, I have a low powered machine that could do that

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VM desktops kind of suck IMO but it could work

elfin gust
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You could also use one PC with unraid

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for both of them

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I don't have unRAID licenses

elfin gust
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hm...

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you can also install linux, vbox, +windows on those vm's, and attache everything + autostart, ik it would be kind of trouble but could work...

ashen lily
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the time you see me using unRAID is the time i get a free license

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I already have ESXi licenses I'm not using ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

elfin gust
loud lance
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@rocky badge those are free

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๐Ÿ˜›

ashen lily
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thats a bloody trial

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Exactly xD

loud lance
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depending where you obtain them

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๐Ÿ˜›

ashen lily
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not a free license.

elfin gust
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lol, I know, but it's free

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30 days wouldn't last me xD

elfin gust
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๐Ÿ˜›

loud lance
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if VMWARE raids /r/homelab everyone is losing their servers

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LOL

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xD

elfin gust
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@rocky badge ik, i was jk with @ashen lily

loud lance
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I bought a 18U server rack

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on ebay for $100

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found out its too small

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and now im cutting out the sheet metal so all my servers will fit

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LOL

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I don't have any VMs on my laptop

elfin gust
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that's awesome

loud lance
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id hope not

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its a laptop

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ashen lily
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Can ya like not tag me twice in a row.

loud lance
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nice domain

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@loud lance it can run VMs

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thanks xd

elfin gust
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sorry

loud lance
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anything can

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I ran ESXi in a VM before

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on this laptop

loud lance
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linus owns linustech.tips

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wtf

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wasn't expecting that

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No

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I do

loud lance
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ohhh

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i was about to say

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loud lance
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Oh, that's a nice laptop

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I prefer macbooks, currently own a 2017 Macbook Pro w/ touchbar

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I want a MacBook Pro xD

loud lance
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just because they work good with the apple ecosystem

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and they're good laptops, like they are meant to be portable

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hotspot w/ my phone if i need to take it with me, etc.

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REEEEEEEEEE hurry up

loud lance
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Nice

loud lance
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imgur

loud lance
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Two Samsung SSDs

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950 Evo 250GB M.2

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and 850 Pro 256GB

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loud lance
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I plan on moving it out of my corsair case to my rosewell 4U server case

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with EKWB watercooling

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so that's going to be fun

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lol

loud lance
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thankfully it's a small case, so it's a small res to hold the EKWB Cryptofuel

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Copying a Windows ISO to a folder for NTlite

loud lance
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I can't wait to finally get my servers up again

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I get to spend $350 to copy linus

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Rip

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XD

loud lance
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with the thunderbolt 3 dock

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so i can move the rack to the otherside of my bedroom

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and use a 6ft thunderbolt 3 cable

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Lol

loud lance
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you think thunderbolt can handle two 35" display at 200hz? 2560x1080?

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this is thunderbolt 3 btw?

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I'll be getting a pic-e card to use it

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I think so?

loud lance
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lets hope

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xD

loud lance
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I got two acer predator z35

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on a monoprice 34" dual monitor arm which works great

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nice

loud lance
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yeah

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I have a Dell UP3017

loud lance
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That's pretty

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loud lance
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I bet the colors on that are awesome

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Yee

loud lance
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I can't do one monitor

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I have another monitor, aka my laptop display. But I don't use it

loud lance
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I had 6 monitors, now I'm down to two curved

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loud lance
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wooo

loud lance
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ah

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I rarely use outlook

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I'm a gmail dude.

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rather spend $5/mo on a GSuite then outlook ๐Ÿ˜›

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lol

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Email is Zoho, moving to custom

proper shore
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I have a small question, probably off topic

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I'm a 14 year old student that's currently doing some freelance sysadmin work

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Would it be worthwhile to go for my CCNA now, or should I wait a few years?

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I'm 14 and I think I might do it later ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

high anchor
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It may be helpful to find more jobs/projects. Just find a way to not pay for it. Like subventions or helping funds from states for young citizens.

proper shore
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Yeah, a company I subcontract offers free certifications of any type

high anchor
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Then go for it

proper shore
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I'm fairly certain I'd be able to pass it

high anchor
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*Insert "Free real estate" meme*

proper shore
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Any study materials to recommend?

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And also, @loud lance if you're considering gsuite, I highly recommend it

slow pivot
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I would think you want to get the course material books

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I have Office 365 ๐Ÿ˜„ , well it comes with Visio, but it's still Office.

proper shore
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I run it for both personal and a company I manage gsuite for; the way it works is amazing

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Takes a bit to memorize where everything is, but once you do, it's very powerful

high anchor
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+1
I also got a Gsuite account for a personal project, it works great.

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proper shore
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I use gsuite for my @unreliable.site and @unreliable.host domains

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Nothing but good things to say

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Well, there is one

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high anchor
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Those domains names ^^

proper shore
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Google blocks login requests from my hetzner dedi

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proper shore
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Anyone here a virtualizor fanboy or is it just me?

waxen scroll
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OOF

proper shore
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I used to be huge on CLI-only KVM management

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xD

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ESXi ftw

high anchor
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Got a Dedicated server running ESXI 6.5

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ubiquiti ftw!

proper shore
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My personal test bench consists of 6 nodes in 3 different countries

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And a small little pfSense box so I can familiarize myself with pfSense

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I was going to buy to own an r210, but ended up getting scammed on it

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my pfsense

proper shore
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Is that a vive I see?

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Yea

proper shore
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I've been wanting one, but I tested it and it never fully caught my appeal

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Was waiting for the pro but that flopped to in my opinion

loud lance
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@rocky badge invite me to ur emoji server

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thanks

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Mine?

loud lance
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yes

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i like ur emojis

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Ok

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@high anchor @waxen scroll reeeee, ESXi won't detect my nic

high anchor
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Can you explain ? The Hypervisor itself ? Or just VMs ?

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Hypervisor

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Gonna try Proxmox notlikeblob

thick minnow
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blob

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have you tried sophos?

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No

thick minnow
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thick minnow
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they have free stuff

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the learning courve is a bit steep

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but they have pretty cool stuff

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@high anchor I got proxmox working...

hallow nimbus
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OOF

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No certificate

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BAD

waxen scroll
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QEMU oof

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xD

clear igloo
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Server upgraded ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Moar hard drives ๐Ÿ˜›

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lol nice

clear igloo
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Now to get some new CPUs >.>

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What CPUs?

waxen scroll
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hi @clear igloo time to share

clear igloo
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I can only do E5-2xxx series v1 and v2

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looking at the 2690v2 but dunno yet

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REEEEE

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I wanted to deactivate that old install....

waxen scroll
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errrr MUH GAWD... editing /etc/hosts on edgerouter and restarting dnsmasq service works for overriding DNS requests from hosts

clear igloo
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Use phone activation @rocky badge

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No thanks

clear igloo
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Why?

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Takes like 3 minutes

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I'll just use a different key ๐Ÿ˜„

clear igloo
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lol

waxen scroll
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they have digital activation over phone now

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which is dumb as shit because you have to call still

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they'll text you a link and you click it

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then you enter all the #s

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XD

clear igloo
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yup

waxen scroll
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i dont know why they cant send me to the activation page from the OS

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the OS knows the damn numbers too... fill it in for me

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REEEEE

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no VNC doesn't have copy paste...

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I have to configure RDP

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aka 2 clicks

waxen scroll
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the numbers cant be copied

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i dont recall that working

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No, I can't paste into a command prompt from my clipboard

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reeee

clear igloo
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lol

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pseudo moat
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lol what a brilliant error message

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"error: run ... to get error"

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Ikr

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Soo helpful

pseudo moat
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ala microsoft

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XD

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And it has to be on a non-core edition

waxen scroll
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hey @rocky badge this is #networking ... move this to #sysadmin

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๐Ÿ˜„

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There's no sysadmin ๐Ÿ˜›

waxen scroll
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have the mods do the needful

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reee

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hurry up xd

hallow nimbus
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XD

primal scroll
loud lance
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@rocky badge

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I'm buying all this for 1,150

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one od the MD3000's were sold, and the terrastation

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has rails on the r710, etc.

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Oooh

loud lance
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good deal?

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Yes

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I'd say so

loud lance
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Awesome

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I needed a new rack, and more servers.

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I'll upgrade all the systems to 128GB of ram in the 710s

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o.0

loud lance
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Yes

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I found out, I'm a ram hog.

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Lol

loud lance
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I run a lot of ESXi vms

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I plan to have around 12TB in total on the MD3000i

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I'll be configuring the drives for the R710 in ssds too.

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for core vms

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like pfsense, etc.

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Lol

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Nice

brave belfry
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im looking for a new ethernet cable for my pc which one do you think would be the best?

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cat 6?

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cat 7?

waxen scroll
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Cat5e or cat6

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For home use there's no value in anything better

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Don't use cat6a

brave belfry
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okay thanks

tough bluff
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Wait is cat6a bad cable

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My house is wired with cat 7a for 10gb links

gritty owl
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I didn't know CAT7a existed

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I know of CAT6a

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then CAT7

thick minnow
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you dont need cat 7a

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no isp is giving you 10gbit speeds, unless you want to pay like 5k a month for a bakcbone connection

unreal wedge
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you don't need cat 7a

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you don't need an opinion

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Futureproofing and shielded wire is never a bad idea. If we'd have futureproofed the last decade instead of sitting on our hands, we'd be in a much better place technically.

round wing
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yea but that would require using logic and who does that

unreal wedge
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Crazy people.

hushed dome
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@thick minnow lol in switzerland in some towns you get 10GBit/s for 50bucks

gritty owl
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Oh wow, 7a does exist. Interesting. I feel like a pleb for using CAT6 now when wiring my house.

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Oh, there's even CAT8 now. Wow, that is some expensive stuff.

thick minnow
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Can you ppl stop lying about stuff, 'futureproofing' a house with carrier/datacenter stuff LMAO

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cat7 is dumb,

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fiber is cheaper

lean pollen
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There is no such thing as "futureproof".
Its just about making it longer until next upgrade...
Or just have a reason to spend more money...

thick minnow
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no home today needs more than 200 mbit connection , and that alot

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with 200mbit you will be fine for the next decade

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willing to say for the next 2 decades

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i dont see 8k skype calls becoming popular anytime soon

clear igloo
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640K is enough for everyone, nobody needs more than X for Y time because Z doesn't exist

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I'd argue something different than just internet exchange traffic

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Maybe the reason Z doesn't exist is because of people who think that X is good enough

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They prevent Z from coming into existence on a mainstream level

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Yah, if that was more widespread who knows what we might have

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And then people would be looking at 40Gbit or 100Gbit and saying we don't need that because another "Z" doesn't exist ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Exactly xD

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"Mom got stuck in the teleporter again due to your 32K streaming Billy!"

thick minnow
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@ancient vigil, what are those graphs?

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total world wide internet use?

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how did that info got recollected?

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was the spread of tech that uses internet added into the graph?

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...

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i work in a isp

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this is silly

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the only reason you would need 200 mbit connection in your home would be for braging in this discord server

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if you are a father and your family are 3 kids that are twitch streamers and they are streaming at 1080p 60fps then okay meaby you will be stretching your 200mbit connection when you and your wife are watching diferent 4k media.

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...

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packet loss has nothing to do with bandwith

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it doesnt happen

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the only reason theres packet loss is because theres a bad link

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i know what i am talking about

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routers queue packets

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if theres'' saturation''

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nothing gets lost

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unless the link is bad

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i do this for work

clear igloo
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Ummm, that's not how queues work

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If the queue is full, all packets are dropped

thick minnow
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queues are done in relation to the selected modulation of the link

clear igloo
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Queuing is done on a per port level and once the queue fills up any packets that aren't queued as high priority are dropped until there is more space in the queue

thick minnow
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talking about the router on your home not your computer

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private ip networks work diferent

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nope thats not how it workd tho

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but good try

clear igloo
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No, they don't, queuing is the same, the amount of buffer might differ but the mechanics work the same regardless of if it's some crap router from 2010 or some beefy 100GbE router in an ISP

thick minnow
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so you just said what i said?

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wtf is going on in here?

clear igloo
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Once the link and buffer are filled up, packets get dropped

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Saying that packet loss only exists due to a bad link is incorrect

thick minnow
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we were talking about bandwith needs

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well i was talking about bandwith needs to a person that wants all the bandwith in the world

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thats my problem

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...

clear igloo
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So you're problem is the backbone on the ISP not being able to handle the traffic demands of the person

thick minnow
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the backbone of the internet have nodes

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everywhere in the world

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where ever those nodes are

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close by, there are sweet deals

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usually datacenters get close on the nodes

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you know what britate a 4k uses?

clear igloo
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Depends on compression

thick minnow
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...

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look

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call it what you want

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what ever with moeny can be done

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but you dont need more than 200mbit

hallow nimbus
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I need 1Gbps up and down

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lmao

thick minnow
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dude i need a petabyte

hallow nimbus
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lmao

thick minnow
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so i can post screens here

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so my voip dont drop packages

clear igloo
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If you can get me a petabyte optic, I'll give you ten million dollars

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๐Ÿ˜„

thick minnow
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is like i dont like my voip droping packages waiting for my 40 games i downloaded in a milisecond

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while i watch 4k porn in 5 screens

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LIVE

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uncompresed

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cuz i roll ike that

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you know what i am wrong

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you are right

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the 4k porn in 5 screens convinced me

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200mbit connections are soo arcaic

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you are that guy that everybody loves cuz has the fastest internet

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you just want all the bandwith aviable

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you want it now

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thats ludacris

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i will say 200mbit is enough for these 2 decades to come

hallow nimbus
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Almost Gbit on phones and still waiting for 500/500 at my house lmao

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Yes

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And no there aint no fiber line near my house

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Cause if i could i would allready have it ๐Ÿ˜„

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Oof

thick minnow
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1gbit onthe phone lmao

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you mean wifi right?

hallow nimbus
thick minnow
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okay but that 1.4 gbit will be shared

hallow nimbus
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Like what out of who's ass did they have to pull that number

thick minnow
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4g is 500mbit

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you would have that if only you are conected to the tower

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well 500mbit is the top speed on 4g right now

clear igloo
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4G speed depends on the band and tech used

hallow nimbus
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๐Ÿ˜„

clear igloo
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lol

thick minnow
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anyway

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5g is not coming anytime soon

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they needt o legislate the bands worldwide to open up space

clear igloo
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Another year it will be, trials are under way

thick minnow
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the technology exists to do al this

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the problem is the frequencies they want to use

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the problem i see is that they want to use the mid bands

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the receptionw ill be shity inside homes and buildings

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one way to fix that is to turn up the power on the radios

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which goes against many laws

hallow nimbus
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Who cares about laws lol

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Oh wait everyone does

clear igloo
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Except corporations ๐Ÿ˜„

hallow nimbus
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^

thick minnow
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i wonder when people will start to die over the high power radio emitions

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the low bands are all taken by military and space agencies

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soo thats the ideal range

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cuz those freqs go through buildings real ez

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thats where 4g moslty works on

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the problem is not your phone

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the problem is the tower with the antena

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that is showering everybody

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and have sex with it?

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youa re the one wanting to hug antenas

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i mean next step is sex

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just saying

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yea the radios with their sectorial antenas will have to be more powerfull to be able to make the radio frequencies in the mid band penetrate buildings

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making it unsafe

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what

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no it doesnt work like that

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all you need is one side to be able to listen

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if your hears the tower thats it

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tower can hear the phone

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look

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is comon practice to have diferent antenas in wireles links

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sometimes one size didnt make it for the link so they changed one in one side

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and that fixed it

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yes

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....l

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if your phone isnt powerfull enough to transmit back isnt powerfull enough to listen to the tower in the first place

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no link was established ever

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thats not how it works

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if your phone cant talk to the radio tower therse no conection

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if the tower cant listen to your phone theres no connection

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there are laws prohibiting changes in the power of the transmision in phones

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its all in the tower

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the 5g original dream of using mid to high bands frequencies is illegal, if they are going down the mimo route to give more speed and still call it 5g to save face and charge more money dont spect anythig more than 20% to 30% increase on the speed you have right now.

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and this will means you have to get a phone with the 4x4 mimo

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if you live in a city and you get 20 to 40, probably you will get 25 to 50

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not gbit speeds what so ever, unless they manage to clear the low band freqs

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then meaby

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good luck with that

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each coutry has a diferent spectrum

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@clear igloo @waxen scroll hello

clear igloo
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yo

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I'm still tired

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I slept from 11PM to 10AM

deep anvil
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good

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blob ryonis

waxen scroll
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yes, silly blob

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you probably need to get that looked at

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back problems, etc etc

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๐Ÿ˜„

rocky badge
waxen scroll
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im having that issue myself

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back issues causing bad sleep quality

rocky badge
waxen scroll
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people like to say chiropractor is a scam but its working

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๐Ÿ˜„

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lol

waxen scroll
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๐Ÿค”

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2 years of escalating back pain fading away after a month of every other day of it

rocky badge
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oof

deep anvil
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@rocky badge

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hi

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:thinkies:

waxen scroll
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fail

deep anvil
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blob

waxen scroll
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hi @clear igloo

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heres some gore from general

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@rocky badge

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xD

waxen scroll
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so close, hope it doesnt die on me!

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i could bring it to the gun range though

lost flint
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any cisco nerds in the house?

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@lost flint talk to @waxen scroll or @clear igloo ๐Ÿ˜„

lost flint
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thanks

clear igloo
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Cisco nerd reporting in

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@lost flint

lost flint
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Haha

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LZdanger is helping me already thnaks

clear igloo
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Ok

rocky badge
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Replace nerd with employee @clear igloo

clear igloo
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Hush you

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clear igloo
#

drops sweat all over blob

rocky badge
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Are you sweaty?

clear igloo
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Even after a cold shower, yes

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Cold showers, notlikeblob

clear igloo
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Did some landscape work

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Oh

clear igloo
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Currently 93F/33.5C

rocky badge
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oooof

hushed dome
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dang

waxen scroll
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doing laundry.... man this new washer swallowed up my king size comforter and has room to spare

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hashtag IoT

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too bad LGs app is cancer

rocky badge
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๐Ÿ˜„

thick minnow
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33c is paradise

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party cloudy

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turn up the grill n the jacuzzi

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put the beer on the yeti cooler

loud lance
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bruh @rocky badge

rocky badge
#

?

loud lance
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I'll update you next week when I purchase that rack

rocky badge
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Ok

loud lance
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I'll be upgrading all 4 switches to ubiquiti

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might as well go all in

rocky badge
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unifi or edgemax?

loud lance
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Uh, I don't know ubiquiti stuff well

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i love their product designs though

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I hear its really good

rocky badge
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Is it white or black?

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The switches

loud lance
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so im doing it to expand my networking knowledge

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white

rocky badge
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So unifi

loud lance
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yeah]

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explain what the cloud key does

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cant i just use openvpn to connect to it

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instead of buying a cloudkey

rocky badge
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It controls all of the unifi products

loud lance
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Yeah, but I could run a local OpenVPN vm.

rocky badge
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The cloudkey will discover and adopt the switches, APs, etc

loud lance
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to connect to my lan

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OH

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okay

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dope

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well, if im spending 1.15k on all that gear

rocky badge
loud lance
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whats another 1k on upgrading to ubiquiti gear

rocky badge
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It does a lot xD

loud lance
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O_O

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so my current router and modem

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is built into my cable box

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and only has two lan ports

rocky badge
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Set that to bridge mode

loud lance
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Alright

rocky badge
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So it's only a modem

loud lance
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but would that effect cable in any way?

rocky badge
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Here's a live demo

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Nope

loud lance
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well my cable is over IP

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like coax is for the internet

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and all the cable is over IP

rocky badge
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It shouldn't

loud lance
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cause I run WideOpenWest

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Alright.

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here let me send you a pic

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of my current dashboard

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of my router

rocky badge
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ok

loud lance
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here you go

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how would I change the NAT mode

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if its grayed out

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help me figure this out so i know what im doing when i install this shit

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lol

rocky badge
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OOOOOF Arris router

loud lance
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yeah :/

rocky badge
loud lance
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thats sexy as fuck

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I would love to do shit like that

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If i fucking could

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hmmm

loud lance
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lol

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loud lance
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LOL a 2950

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Good enough for pfSense

loud lance
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those things suck

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I own one

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power hungry

rocky badge
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Yeah

loud lance
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and loud

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which is why its out of prod

rocky badge
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๐Ÿ˜„

loud lance
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Energy isn't cheap which is why i get this rack

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I'll be running two dell UPS which I'm getting with all that gear

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here's what I'm getting for 1,150. I might talk him down a bit more when I go the day to buy it next week.

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cause he was quick to accept that offer

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which makes me think I'll be able to get away with everything thats not listed SOLD for about 1k

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I'll offer him 980 in cash

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the R710's are pretty, and the UPS. so is the MD3000i.

rocky badge
loud lance
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I got 8TB to add to to the 3000i so I'll have a total of 11.3TB of total storage

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and two SFP cards with cables.

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but here's the question blob

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should I put 3 cards in the MD3000i and connect the SFP cables from the server to the powerconnect switch

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or should I connect it directly to one of the R710s

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would ESXi be able to saturate the 4 gig connections from the R710 to the switch?

rocky badge
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oof SFP, not SFP+?

loud lance
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Its SFP+

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sorry

rocky badge
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oh

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Depends

loud lance
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I believe those switches listed are managed

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right?

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I only owned one switch in my entire life and it's some netgear 24port dummy switch

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so that way each server that connects to the switch will be able to use all 4gs