Very high up
#networking
clear igloo
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I've spotted almost all of the APs at school
clear igloo
Do you have any domes that hang down from the ceiling?
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No
clear igloo
Kind of like _/ shaped?
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No
clear igloo
Ah
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Why?
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@clear igloo dats 4G
clear igloo
Those are cell domes
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Oh
clear igloo
haha
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cancer ray
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The person behind me has an iPhone X
opal pagoda
does 10gbe sfp+ to usb type c exist
clear igloo
No, only Thunderbolt
Someone asked a little while back so I remember looking and not finding them
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@clear igloo tell me what the domes are xd
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you ever deal with radio engineers?
clear igloo
Not really, I've dabbled and done some 4G testing but never really worked with the engineers
Because testing 4G on virtual hardware is smart and just like the real world 😡
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this guy i was talking to was oozing smart but didnt get the concept of a default gateway
clear igloo
We've since changed how that BU does testing 😃
Yah, lot of specialized people who know tons about X but nothing else
It can be very frustrating
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Oh ok @clear igloo
subtle glen
even if you are like 50 cm from the window at school, you get 0/1 bar of 4g
i think theres ethernit there
if you stick your arm out of the window u may get 2/3 bars
today i put the phone on the edge of the window to watch netflix
raw verge
😐
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Cool
subtle glen
mmm i could attach the phone to a selfie stick 🤔
raw verge
😐 😐
subtle glen
if it falls, well an excuse to get the ROG phone
opal pagoda
high anchor
/r/techsupportgore ?
thick minnow
wot to do if someone threatens to ddos you?
clear igloo
Ignore them
high anchor
@thick minnow
- Ignore them
- Change IP if they do
thick minnow
my ip doesnt change I dont think
high anchor
You may be able to ask your ISP to do it or maybe they have an option on their dashboard to do it.
clear igloo
What sort of connection do you have? Cable? Fiber? DSL?
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and he never answers
clear igloo
lol
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Lol
thick minnow
@clear igloo I have cable I think
you know the motherboards that have those wifi things?
it looks like that on my mobo
clear igloo
mobo or router?
clear igloo
yah, that's cable
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Oof
clear igloo
Cable is usually pretty difficult to change the IP, they usually bind it for about a week and stick it to the MAC address of the connected router (or the local router if it's a combo unit) so usually you have to call to get it changed
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My IP rarely changes
clear igloo
Yah, with cable I had the same IP for almost 7 years
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Last time my IP changed was when I got a new modem
high anchor
It really depends on ISP, most ISP in France have dynamic IPs with some exceptions, Orange does have fixed IPs (on xDSL lines, afaik fiber lines aren't concerned) but allows it to be changed by a simple click on a button in the client dashboard on their site.
But others ISP with dynamic IPs just change them on modem/router (most (if not all) ISPs give combo units in france) reboot.
clear igloo
Even a new modem, depending on the provider, should pass the same IP though it, unless it's a combo unit
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Yeah it depends on the ISP.
clear igloo
Yah, true @high anchor , in the US even though they are dynamic most ISPs bind the IP to the MAC address of the connected thing beyond the modem
so you can keep the same one for a long time
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I want my old IP back xd
clear igloo
lol, I still have my old one memorized
high anchor
I can remember IPs from my dedicated servers but not my ISP static IP.
clear igloo
lol
high anchor
That's why I added a small dyndns client at my home ^^
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My laptop IP is 10.0.0.2
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10.0.38.149 MC server
clear igloo
::1 - Home 😄
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10.0.38.150 DNS server
Lol
I have some server IPs at my school memorized
10.0.0.35 is the web filter
10.0.0.2 is the main domain controller
10.0.38.2 is my school's domain controller
10.0.38.3 is my school's file server
10.0.0.5 is the main file server
I don't remember the IP but I remember the host name of the vsphere jcs-vsphere.jcboe.local
high anchor
94.23.43.xxx > Dedicated server for a community which I am the admin
91.121.153.xxx > Personal dedicated server with plex
188.165.232.xxx & 54.38.103.xxx > ESXi dedicated server (I've cheated for it, this is a "recent" one)
(Of course, as they are dedicated servers with public IPs I can't give the full IP)
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Lol
I could never remember that
Viewing IPs on Android Discord is easy. It's in blue and is underlined
high anchor
👌
hallow nimbus
^
raw verge
sad
umbral ruin
hello kids what's this "internets" i keep hearing about in that there news paper
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Interwebz?
umbral ruin
is that something ducks walk on?
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Maybe
unreal wedge
@rocky badge Thanks for the network map. Now to zero-day your firewall and touch your stuff not do exactly that.
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@unreal wedge lol
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@rocky badge you should make some LOLs and see if you can get an EIGRP or OSPF peer up on one of their LAN ports
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Lol
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then advertise a crapload of /32
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@waxen scroll lol
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@clear igloo time for network maintenance. tonight i touch ASR9912 and N7k
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its no big deal or anything....
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XD
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Is this networking specific or your personal computer?
thick minnow
Personal COmputer
waxen scroll
Usually you can
clear igloo
@waxen scroll Let me know how it goes 😄
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it worked. fixed a problem with eigrp flapping
clear igloo
Nice
hallow nimbus
lmao
waxen scroll
switched to peering over link and everything stabilized
might have to lab that and see what the failure was because it was only happening in one datacenter but the same config was in another datacenter and having no issue
must have been a fluke
eigrp delivered the loopback advertisement and then BGP would use that to find the path to peer
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Lol
waxen scroll
my guess is that eigrp being 90, the loopback advertisement got overridden by eBGP (20) and then the routing table got fucked, the routes dropped, and you start all over again
the peering relationships were stable
the routes all would flap tho
waxen scroll
@rocky badge learn BGP. learn route damping behaviors. etc 😉
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Ok 😄
waxen scroll
thats the spirit
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All of you old people know more than me XD
waxen scroll
you'll learn quick about IT in general.... you're constantly drowning and know nothing
😄
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😄
waxen scroll
o_O
on some devices you can use one piece of hardware and make it act like multiple routers
that way you dont keep feeding @clear igloo 's company more money
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Lol
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VRFs... dont confuse him with VDCs yet
clear igloo
XD
waxen scroll
lol
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hides in corner because he doesn't know what they're talking about
clear igloo
VRF = Virtual Route Forwarding
VDC = Virtual Device Context
A vrf is where you can have the route on the device multiple times because they act like different routing boxes but exist on the same device
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Huh?
clear igloo
VDC is where you have multiple logical devices that cannot talk to each other, kind of like VMs running on a single box
I'm trying to learnd you some knowledge 😛
VRF is less secure but much easier and more widespread
VDCs are more secure but are more difficult and less widespread, only certain devices can do it
clear igloo
No, moar info!
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waxen scroll
then you take your VRFs and roll your own MPLS to your other datacenter
providers HATE HIM
clear igloo
haha
waxen scroll
VDCs screw with my head
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Me doesn't know what you're talking about
waxen scroll
you take a cable from one port and put it in another port on the same box
everything ive learned says NO
clear igloo
Yup, and it's a different device 😛
clear igloo
true
waxen scroll
my manager was complaining about a meeting with cisco... "if you tell them [cisco] that you have a small problem that you want to solve with your existing tech, they try to sell you yet another device or software instead"
we dont need 3 netflow tools, etc
i must not be the only one who thinks theres no value in liveaction
give me riverbed profiler
😄
night night
So I have a gigabit connection to my desktop, and it used to reach those gigabit speeds, but now speedtest is reporting that I'm getting about half that
My brother and I are both connected through a gigabit switch that's connected directly to the wall, but he's still getting full gigabit speeds
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Does your nic show full Gigabit?
Make sure he didn't limit you
I'd do that with a sibling
night night
He wouldn't know how to limit the connection lol
I manually set our NIC's to 1.0 Gigabit full duplex
night night
no idea lol
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Do you have FiOS gigabit?
Unless they or you put in a different router you probably have the quantum gateway
night night
We do have FIOS gigabit, nobody changed any cable connections (because they would tell me if they did, I'm the IT guy of the family)
I had the gigabit speeds just a few days ago until I noticed that things were slower than I expected
Gonna try connecting to it now
night night
No idea lol
(For the family IT guy I'm still a noob sometimes)
Like I said, it was carrying a gigabit connection just a few days ago
What software settings could affect that besides the speed that I already manually set?
night night
very strange
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Did you try turning stuff on and off?
night night
I my brother wasn't actively using his computer rn, I totally would
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Oh
night night
Guess I'll deal with 1/2 gigabit for a bit lol
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DO IT ANYWAYS jk don't be mean
"only"
1/2 gigabit
I get 200/12 at home ...
I've been living with slower on my trip
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I can't get gigabit;-;
night night
The only reason I managed to get it was that I moved houses
night night
Yeah that shit's expensive
night night
So I was messing with the cables just to be sure
And the one Iwas using magically stopped working
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Wot
night night
tried a different one, still getting 1/2 gigabit 😦
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m a g i c
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that feel when its a dumb switch and you cant look at interface stats
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Rip
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@clear igloo doing spray and pray today
sent routers already configed to two DCs i dont own
praying when it boots the circuit comes up
hallow nimbus
XD
hallow nimbus
Supermicro's site sucks harder
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Well at least on mobile
hallow nimbus
Dont even try it on pc
hallow nimbus
Stuff
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I'm trying to find a switch that does 10Gb RJ45
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Yeah
hallow nimbus
Not a zilion bucks
clear igloo
The 4900M has a 10GbE RJ-45 module
clear igloo
Not when the box pulls 6KW XD
hallow nimbus
A neightbor of mine is being dumb
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goes to https://netgear.com
hallow nimbus
He has solar panels
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Lol
hallow nimbus
But they are covered by a tree 80% of the time
clear igloo
Netgear is going to be best for cheap RJ-45 10GbE
hallow nimbus
Like lMAO
waxen scroll
netgear made me laugh, i racked some of their shit for a customer 5 years ago... it used HDMI cables for stacking cables
waxen scroll
ethernet over HDMI is a thing just FYI
hallow nimbus
^
waxen scroll
but stacking cables.... wtf
hallow nimbus
XD
clear igloo
I prefer HDMI over Garden Hose
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Lmao
hallow nimbus
Lmao
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Netgear's site sucks as well
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...speaking of cables over things... MONOPRICE! Yes friends, monoprice!
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lol
hallow nimbus
I prefer ethernet over cable
And power over cable
None of that wireless dumb shit
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Ooof, unmanaged switches
clear igloo
lol
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i dont blame you. i ran unmanaged roswill switches at home
hallow nimbus
XD
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because of cost
hallow nimbus
All unmanged are at my house so
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then UBNTs switch was the right price so i bought one
load
clear igloo
NO U!
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YES U!
hallow nimbus
Ey ryois
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Someone needs to make that emojis
hallow nimbus
Atleast it has HTTPS
hallow nimbus
You only see it if ur logging in u cunt
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any one here r/wallstreetbets ?
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No
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😮
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I don't use Reddit much
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waxen scroll
crypto can suck it.... the options market is where its at
hallow nimbus
2 Mo ago lmao
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who dat one follower
hallow nimbus
Not me
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hallow nimbus
Oh
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And it was redirecting ne to google docs
hallow nimbus
nvm then
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@clear igloo talk about bad websites
My school's
They make stupid mistakes like this and the layout is crap
hallow nimbus
XD
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One post I had my speeds showing...I was getting 110Mbps...
They commented on how fast it was...
hallow nimbus
That was like 6 years ago or something stupid like dat
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Lol
hallow nimbus
I dont remember that
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I remember getting 120Mbps over Verizon
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I rember getting 500Mbps over guest wifi
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Ikr
steady rampart
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Why are you always in hotels?
meager creek
Got fails for my R710 today!
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@waxen scroll @hallow nimbus
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/3982904502.png
Kill me
hallow nimbus
Its almost better then ur home upload lmao
hallow nimbus
I said almost
night night
@rocky badge oh my god, I'm so sorry for your loss
hallow nimbus
😂
waxen scroll
lol comcast
they called me today
"our lineman found an issue and fixed it... do we still need to come over?"
WHAT. proactively fixing something before the appointment? noooooo
not my comcast
waxen scroll
my connection was having bursts of packet loss but sometimes it could be days before it reappears
clear igloo
interesting
clear igloo
Yah, hopefully the lineman fixed it somewhere along the way and the issue goes away 😃
That's odd, I just realized I missed some of your messages earlier, lol
waxen scroll
o_o
clear igloo
Talking about services and whatnot being sold by Cisco 😛
You need at least 5 netflow tools
waxen scroll
you chose to ignore it, dont lie
clear igloo
I probably just scrolled to the bottom XD
If you ever need an amazing service though, check out Solution Validation Services 😃
clear igloo
lol
waxen scroll
my favorite is "oh... what code to use? No.. no... we cant do that. no way. but you can BUY this service that will do it for you!"
clear igloo
lol, I agree some of that stuff is annoying
Sometimes it can be useful but other times it's just sales trying to sell for the purpose of just selling
waxen scroll
yeah you should try meeting with riverbed sales... jesus
clear igloo
Bad?
waxen scroll
they're one of the only good games in town for network performance tools, they have a whole ecosystem, and its expensive as fuck
they will push hard
clear igloo
Ah, yah, gotta push all the things
waxen scroll
if you buy it all, you get a central portal to monitor application performance... it combines packets sniffed from taps, netflow, and end user monitoring (client on laptops)
its powerful AF
"it must be a network issue" gets shot down so fast
clear igloo
But on a serious note, not trying to sell, if you guys ever find you need some new type of solution/migration/etc validated that you can't manage yourselves, let me know
Haha, I love tools that can stop that stuff 😄
I still need to spin up some of the new tools we've got, mainly telemetry stuff I haven't messed with
I've touched some cursory stuff via other tools but nothing in depth with telemetry yet 😦
waxen scroll
😮
clear igloo
😮 ?
waxen scroll
so when are you gonna hold #networking training classes?
clear igloo
Depends on what you want to learn 😛
clear igloo
Not sure what I'm looking at =/
subtle glen
if Lurick is making a networking training class where do i sign ?
clear igloo
Is that a backup circuit?
subtle glen
@clear igloo i only had a tiny extension cord to carry the power in that corner where all the switches, routers, etc are so i put a breaker panel with 2 16 Amps breakers that controls the three plugs
theres an ups connected to it
clear igloo
Ah!
subtle glen
the black plug
clear igloo
I ran a 30amp circuit to my closet for my gear XD
clear igloo
that's always fun
subtle glen
and who put the conduits for the cable did a horrible job
ikr
getting shocked with 230v is more fun
personal experience, and the breaker didnt even popped
clear igloo
I'm sure, I almost got killed because of some DC wiring at work several years back
subtle glen
well to get shocked with DC u need a rly high voltage i guess
clear igloo
I learned that when someone says "move this gear" to not assume the power has been killed
subtle glen
ahhhh now i understand why i got electrocuted and the breaker didnt cut the power
clear igloo
Was undoing some very old and stiff DC wires and two of them snapped together, everything went white for a second
subtle glen
why dc wires tho?
clear igloo
I didn't get shocked, thankfully
subtle glen
what were those for
clear igloo
It was old equipment that was using DC power for some reason
subtle glen
🤔
clear igloo
Some ancient ONS gear
subtle glen
dunno what those are :/
clear igloo
Optical Network Switching
subtle glen
ohhhh
google was showing me backpacks...
everything has the ac to dc transformer inside
subtle glen
dafuq
clear igloo
Some gear still has DC power supply options, not sure why =/
subtle glen
ah, i got a proper IEC power cable for my switch
clear igloo
Yah, none of my home gear is DC, I don't like to touch the stuff
subtle glen
i mean its dc inside
clear igloo
Well yah, I'm talking wall to DC directly stuff 😛
clear igloo
O_O
subtle glen
dont watch
clear igloo
3850?
subtle glen
also cause you work for cisco
clear igloo
or 3750?
clear igloo
Ah, nice
subtle glen
why do they have to use a different one
clear igloo
I have no clue, it's super annoying in the lab too
It's supposedly to do with the plug/cable can do 20 amp
subtle glen
i got that switch for free and i dont even know how to use it, and i didnt even had the correct power plug
yeah they said that those iec plugs are for higher amperage
also i got a rs-232 to usb adapter
i can finally config the switches from a win pc
subtle glen
how to properly configure those switches
also cause i think i assigned a wrong ip to one
clear igloo
To the management port? Or a vlan?
subtle glen
the vlan, i gave one that i think its out of the dhcp router range
yep its out of the range
clear igloo
conf t
int vlan xxx
ip add dhcp - OR - ip add x.x.x.x 255.255.255.0
subtle glen
wait lemme turn it on and connect to it
do you also have experience with juniper stuff?
clear igloo
I do not
subtle glen
also cause i guess its a competitor
clear igloo
From what I know though, it's pretty similar to IOS-XR in how commands are nested and whatnot
and you have to commit things
subtle glen
meh that startup sound is amazing
clear igloo
WHIIRRRRRRRRRR whirrrrr
clear igloo
Yup, and when you upgrade the 3K switches they psssss all over XD
subtle glen
hahahahahaha
mmmm it didnt ask for a password or anything like that 🤔
whatever
🤔
subtle glen
ok everything seems fine
do i have to change the xxx in the "int vlan xxx" cmd with the current ip of the vlan?
clear igloo
change it to the vlan number
subtle glen
ok
clear igloo
so if you issue "do show ip int brief" you'll get a list of the interfaces and vlan interfaces. You can drop the "do" if you're not in config mode (conf t)
subtle glen
and in this cmd ip add dhcp - OR - ip add x.x.x.x 255.255.255.0 i have to put the ip i want it to be?
clear igloo
Correct, I don't believe VLANs can do dhcp so just the "ip add x.x.x.x 255.255.255.0" is all that's needed with x.x.x.x replaced with the IP
subtle glen
1
subtle glen
so that it saves the config?
clear igloo
to do that. "do copy run start"
or Ctrl + C to drop to enable (#) mode and use "write" or "copy r s"
subtle glen
it says
clear igloo
Can you post the output from "show ver | i image" btw?
probably a remnant of the gui or something, never seen that before though
subtle glen
there are no clickable things in there
clear igloo
Yah, is that when you access the switch via web browser?
clear igloo
ah, did you cancel or put them in?
subtle glen
?
clear igloo
When it asked for the credientials, did you just cancel out of the box?
subtle glen
i put the one you use to access the switch from the terminal
clear igloo
admin and whatever password I assume?
clear igloo
oh, you need to make a user and password then, that's why
subtle glen
thought i had one already
clear igloo
conf t
username admin priv 15 secret C1sc0.321
end
copy r s
subtle glen
the host name and the enable secret
clear igloo
hostname is just the name on the switch
Replace the password with whatever you want, you can also swap admin for something else
Hostname is just a way to identify the switch
the enable secret is just for moving from global to enable mode
subtle glen
strange cause in the router device list its shown as Cisco48
not as the device name i gave
clear igloo
Probably the CDP identifier
subtle glen
ok i think it has a password
clear igloo
If you configured the username/password try to login to the GUI with that
subtle glen
if i get locked out cause i did something wrong ill cry
clear igloo
lol, easy to reset it 😃
subtle glen
ill stay logged in forever now
clear igloo
haha
clear igloo
Yah, should drop you into rommon where you can change the config register or 0x2142, boot the box, and change the config
subtle glen
what was the cmd to insert the password?
clear igloo
for a username?
subtle glen
the one you said before to enter the config
clear igloo
oh, the enable secret?
subtle glen
i mean, i logged out and there is this
clear igloo
or for the username secret?
subtle glen
i wanted to see if the password works
clear igloo
enable
or en
That will just be the enable secret password. The username/password is for SSH/Telnet/HTTP/HTTPS
clear igloo
To enable SSH
enable
conf t
ip domain name switch.int
crypto key generate rsa modulus 2048
ip ssh version 2
From the page ealier? Not sure exactly, clear cookies perhaps?
clear igloo
then some other nice commands
line con 0
exec-timeout 0 0
logging synchronous
line vty 0 15
exec-timeout 0 0
privilege level 15
password cisco.123
logging synchronous
transport preferred ssh
transport input telnet ssh
transport output all
lol @waxen scroll you need to enable http server with no access restrictions 😛
waxen scroll
no can do, security team will be angry about http on a switch
clear igloo
haha, yah
waxen scroll
i will be murdered for telnet
clear igloo
shudder Do NOT say that evil word
clear igloo
lol
waxen scroll
i only lasted in that job 9 months before i said GTFO
clear igloo
@subtle glen
Might need to also do
ip http authentication local
subtle glen
ehhh, im tryna figure out why the admin and psw i put before dont work on the web interface🙃
waxen scroll
next LMG venture is going to be professional IT video channel... calling it early
like going to events such as SAP
subtle glen
i mean i think i did something wrong in that username admin priv 15 secret C1sc0.321 cmd you sent
clear igloo
oh!
subtle glen
i changed the C1sc0.321 to something else
clear igloo
Yah, you need "ip http authentication local" on the box
otherwise it doesn't know where to pull authentication info from
Might be missing some aaa config bits too, I forget since I almost never use web to access the boxes
subtle glen
this is becoming embarassing, but im not sure what i have to do with that ip http authentication local
clear igloo
Can you post a screenshot?
clear igloo
ok
subtle glen
not sure what it is tho
clear igloo
Ctrl + C will cancel out anything you're stuck on
waxen scroll
that wiring job tho xD
clear igloo
Unless you're 8 layers deep in BGP config and hit it by accident because you forgot you're not on a NX-OS or ASA box and you have to dig back down again XD
waxen scroll
the high voltage
clear igloo
lol
subtle glen
i typed the http cmd and tried to log into the web page with the new credentials and it worked
but still
nothing
waxen scroll
did you try internet explorer?
subtle glen
lets see
clear igloo
exploder*
waxen scroll
no, switch
subtle glen
just wanted to see it
clear igloo
Yah, it's pretty bad
waxen scroll
it doesnt make anything easier
subtle glen
imma search for a pic on internet
clear igloo
It might be because it's an old IOS version and it's not fully implemented in that old release
clear igloo
shoot
subtle glen
i know ( i think ) that the poe mode activates poe, but what are the others
i dunno if you can see them
waxen scroll
it doesnt activate anything its status LEDs
clear igloo
It's just the different status lights
PoE is active by default on all ports, if you have a PoE model
subtle glen
cause on the other old switches, if i go on one mode like a group of 10 leds stays on
i thought they were broke
waxen scroll
mode switches the function of the activity lights
clear igloo
^
subtle glen
so that poe thing doesnt turn on/off poe?
waxen scroll
no
subtle glen
ah....
waxen scroll
it shows if a port is suppling power
subtle glen
ohhh thats why all the leds are off
i keep it on the stat mode cause the leds blink normally and that makes me think everything is fine
also why sometimes the port led turns orange and then green when i connect something
waxen scroll
i too like to think everything is fine
clear igloo
Spanning tree is happening 😃
waxen scroll
brb, gonna pick up a delicious chicken gyro
clear igloo
evil evil spanning tree
subtle glen
ok ok
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@night night lol
subtle glen
gimme a good ubiquity switch with a web interface
clear igloo
CLI 4 life!
subtle glen
im already tired of all these cmds
clear igloo
lol
waxen scroll
lol wtf i said IS-IS without the dash as a joke and the room ate my comment
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Lol
clear igloo
Haha
subtle glen
i imagine what network admins have to go trough when something doesnt work
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@subtle glen that was me two nights ago
subtle glen
and i wanted to become a network admin...
clear igloo
Although it's daunting at first, you get the hang of it really fast
There is so much cool stuff you can do and play with 😃
subtle glen
i discovered that compared to ppl in here, i know just really really basic stuff
that is what scares me
clear igloo
That was all of us at one point
I've been doing it for 5 years, I only really really know a small segment of stuff
subtle glen
i also dont think i have all the time it requires to learn this stuff
clear igloo
The rest, google
I will willingly admit that I use google all the time at work to figure stuff out, either to find guides or double check a problem I might have, or just to make sure I'm not crazy
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@clear igloo I wish ubiquiti made switches that were 10 gigabit rj45 and not sfp+
clear igloo
Yah
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clear igloo
Not very common but it's slowly moving out
subtle glen
i saw adapters from sfp+ to rj45
clear igloo
The best way to learn is pick a small segment of stuff and focus on that, become comfortable and familiar with it, and then branch out
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Ubiquiti makes some with some 10 gigabit rj45 but the most is SFP+
subtle glen
i think i choosed the wrong school then
subtle glen
beginning of electronics, but this year is gone and we didnt learn a single thing cause the teacher is 65 and he cant handle the class
27 male students
subtle glen
nope
clear igloo
high school or equivalent?
subtle glen
yeah
clear igloo
Don't worry about it too much then
College/University/whatever is where you'll jump into the good stuff and have better teachers
subtle glen
there were 2 classes that were studying this argument and like half of every class didnt get promoted, so they united the remaining students of those 2 classes that got promoted
i hope so
clear igloo
Pick up a CCENT or CCNA part 1 book and start there if you want to learn some basic networking and take it slow
subtle glen
i didnt choosed informatics cause for what i understood they focus more on coding
clear igloo
Then when you're doing with school and move onto college you'll have a nice footing and can kick some butt in class 😃
clear igloo
Well, programming is part of networking these days 😃
subtle glen
not if i go over ubiquity hehehe
clear igloo
lol
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@clear igloo do you think 24, 10GbE is enough? Lol https://netgear.com/business/products/switches/smart/XS728T.aspx#tab-techspecs
clear igloo
The ability to plug into an API and control the switch is amazing
You need at least 48 ports @rocky badge
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And maybe I’ll have 2-4, 48 port regular gbe
subtle glen
my cisco switch could have 4 sfp+ port, but that expansion module costs 400 euros...
clear igloo
lol, so much dust
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Oof ebay
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https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch/ one of these will be for APs because poe
clear igloo
Because some people will do anything for a dollar
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Lol
subtle glen
well even if you sell it to those companies that recycle metals you would get more
clear igloo
Part of me thinks, even though I can't read the site, is that they're charging for shipping and make more money on that
clear igloo
Yup, they probably have a contract or something that gives them cheaper rates but they sell it at the full rate and make money off that too
subtle glen
wow...
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@clear igloo question, Cisco or ubiquiti for APs? Lol
subtle glen
he works for cisco
clear igloo
If you don't have a controller, Ubiquiti
clear igloo
Or if you can get some APs and a 2504 WLC for cheap
subtle glen
if your boss sees you saying this...
clear igloo
lol
subtle glen
or go big
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The ubiquiti APs also want a controller
clear igloo
well the ubnt stuff can have a virtual controller
clear igloo
lol, wat?! AP skins
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And the rooms that need better WiFi is https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-pro/
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Yeah they have skins
clear igloo
Yah, skins for your APs, that's new
clear igloo
I don't even think they are outdoor rated
subtle glen
oh, btw i think that expo milano 2015 was using similar cisco ap's you sent @clear igloo
yeah :/
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Either the infinity or some custom pfsense
subtle glen
how do those controllers work
clear igloo
subtle glen
you plug it in the switch with the other ip, you log in into the web page and what then
clear igloo
You can manage all the settings for the APs from a single GUI
subtle glen
how
clear igloo
transmit power, data rates, etc
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^lurick
clear igloo
Depends on the controller
subtle glen
theres some sort of "copy this config to all the ap's"?
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And if the APs are smart enough they’ll find the controller and get the config automatically
subtle glen
so you just plug an ap in and it gets configured?
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But I think on ubiquiti it finds the APs from the controller and will ask you
clear igloo
The AP's use multicast, they say "I'M HERE, WHERE ARE YOU?!?!" in a beacon message and the controller responds "HERE I AM" and they negotiate and the AP becomes controlled by the controller
subtle glen
but you dont have to plug it in directly into the controller right?
clear igloo
And then it can push configs to the AP
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No
clear igloo
Correct, so long as it's on the same subnet/vlan then you're good
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The controller and APs have to see each other on the network
clear igloo
^
subtle glen
so the controller is like a normal device you plug with an ethernet cable in a switch
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Controllers aren’t cheap tho
clear igloo
Yah, and it talks to the APs and tells them what to do, handles traffic, etc.
subtle glen
well, if you are buying all those ip that needs a controller, it means you have a decent budget
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And it handles roaming
subtle glen
ap's*
clear igloo
Yah, forgot about roaming between aps
subtle glen
do you have any pictures of the controller interface?
subtle glen
i mean, you fill the fields with the password etc and then theres some sort of "send this config to all the ip's"?
subtle glen
lemme guess, that tiny brick costs like 600 dollars?
subtle glen
ffs
clear igloo
Think bigger @subtle glen, you can tell it how much power to give to a specific radio on a per AP basis or globally for 100 aps
subtle glen
lol
clear igloo
The more expensive ones can handle hundreds of APs at a time though
subtle glen
sorry sir, im basic
clear igloo
Small ones like the 2504 can handle something like 5 or 10
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clear igloo
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Iirc my school has the c5215
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And for smaller schools it virtual in ESXi
subtle glen
NAAA
clear igloo
the one you posted
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Given the logo is purple
clear igloo
Packet shaper? Like QoS? Or something that generates packets?
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Their products are purple XD
subtle glen
something like this
dunno its purpose tho. Is it just to see the packets flowing in your network?
clear igloo
AH! That will do advanced packet control
optimize web traffic, slow down other stuff, ensure the critical applications have enough bandwidth to get out of the network, etc.
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What I find cool
subtle glen
so a firewall?
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You can login to a pc and the firewall knows who you’re logged in as, what pc you’re logged in as, and what other devices you own.
clear igloo
It doesn't really do blocking it just forces flows to adjust their transmit rate based on a bunch of conditions
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And applies different levels web filter
clear igloo
Very useful
subtle glen
mmhmmh
but that is not the one that blocks researches on google like unappropriate stuff right?
clear igloo
Think of it like this, a million users want to access google.com. The box will cache the google page locally and serve it up so it doesn't eat up bandwidth to the internet or back to corporate to then go to the internet
It can do that in some cases, yah
But it won't like stop a DDOS attack or something
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Google had a ssl certificate from the school lol
subtle glen
i was intersted of that thing that blocks some sites
i dont think i can do it with my router
clear igloo
A WAN optimization device like that can block sites but you usually do that with more DNS specific stuff
subtle glen
since when my dad said that in his office if you search for anything unappropriate the page gets blocked
clear igloo
Think of it like this, it will make sure things perform optimally based on a set of conditions and some of that can be to stop certain site access but it's main purpose is to ensure critical applications get through and have enough bandwidth to talk to wherever they need to. It will also cache content locally so it doesn't need to leave the network and can save bandwidth that way as well
You can use DNS like OpenDNS or something to block a bunch of sites more efficiently though
subtle glen
also what piece of equipment connects your pc to the "guest network" if you are not in the list of autorized pc
clear igloo
802.1x 😄
clear igloo
Yah
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A win server can do it
thick minnow
Is 802.1x insecure?
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no
subtle glen
wireless G ftw
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It uses a RADIUS server or an AD for auth on win server
subtle glen
interesting
today i found a modem/router on the street, would have you take it or nah thanks?
clear igloo
I can't use a modem with my fiber so I'll pass 😛
subtle glen
do you have some sort of rack mounted fiber converter or a fiber jack on the wall
clear igloo
Fiber to copper converter outside
I do have fiber from my PC to my switch in the walls though
subtle glen
ofc you do..
clear igloo
😛
clear igloo
clear igloo
lol
subtle glen
sorry what were the pi's for?
clear igloo
Just messing around with python and whatnot
I have one setup as an NTP server just because
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Lol
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Hopefully my network will be a mix of 1 and 10 gb
clear igloo
Nice, why give up though?
subtle glen
cause i cant code, i tried to take other ppl's code and modify it
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Wow
subtle glen
and it never worked sooo screw it
why dont you use like one of your pi for home automation
to control stuff with ur phone or alexa
subtle glen
oh hey, i see your cisco's ap controller
ah..
you took that from work, didnt you 😜
clear igloo
Maybe >.>
subtle glen
shhhh
clear igloo
Boss was cool with it though
subtle glen
one thing im jealous about american homes is that you have drywalls and attics where you can run all the cables everywhere and make like a super home network
lol
try to run a new conduit here...
clear igloo
Yah, but you still have to cut and patch the drywall but it's much easier than brick
subtle glen
especially if you are in an apartment
clear igloo
Yah, can't do anything in an apartment, even here 😦
clear igloo
Well if you want to go up or down, you have about 3" of wood to drill though
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@clear igloo rip
subtle glen
there are also thigs that i really dislike about american houses tho
your plugs are unsafe as f, you still use solid copper wire and i also dont like how they look like, i dont like the breaker panels you have (also you have to reset the breaker when it trips), you only have 110 v and other things
mostly regarding electrical stuff