I don't think we'll be seeing lower hardware prices until we see a trillion dollar hole in the tech industry
A part of me prays for this hole to hurry up and appear, a part of me knows precisely how much of a shitstorm that will be...
#networking
pseudo blade
old raptor
bro the 3 10tb drives required a 2fa code from amazon at the time of deliveyr
i had never seen that before
i was so confused i thought i got a phishing email
i have a package
OH BOY! a box!
I need to verify that you're the buyer
Okay!
that's what that means
amber urchin
27.3 in stripe for max capacity and max risk, 9.1 in mirror for minimal capacity but minimal risk, 18.2 in the best choice for a 3 drive config for a balance of capacity and risk.
twin pier
A bridge just let's you convert one interface into many, so I guess exactly like a switch
Hopefully that's your question
Each of those distinct interfaces connected to the bridge has its own MAC because that's the address used in layer 2
So you can also then take one of those bridged interfaces and add an IP to it using osi layer 3
main hazel
A bridge just let's you convert one interface into many, so I guess exactly like...
i know what a network bridge is, and (what ik know of it is that ) the device has two network ports , both have a mack , but dont get an ip assigned or anything so it just to couple two networks together making it look like a single network. unlike a router that couples two networks together separating the two ... , but on linux you can create a virtual bridge devixe , from oa 2 physical cards , in wich case i assume they more or les opperate the same way. however you can create a bridge between one physical card with mac and ???? , the card can still get an ip:? ... eg
the way that i would see it making sense if the host also created a virtual network card with a mac (and that mac would get the ip assigned , leaving the mac of the physical card to be bridge only. then another virtual card would have to be added to the bridge as the other end , also no ip but thats the port you could connect a virtual switch on for connecting all the vm's with each their own virtual card ofc
bridges interfaces are not supposed to get ip's unless its a managed one
wheat dome
Daily Reminder Wireless is useless & Ethernet is always the way
opal pagoda
Daily Reminder Wireless is useless & Ethernet is always the way
ethernet on android and ios is janky af
only samsung exposes interface that can be configured which is mega bs
nova glacier
let me just grab the 100m ethernet cable and the dongle for my phone rq. Wireless is indeed useless
lean palm
Daily Reminder Wireless is useless & Ethernet is always the way
wait one second let me connect ethernet to my watch
hazy lake
long oxide
I despise opensense. Been smashing myself against it so I can set up my PPPoE connection, somehow got it to connect but only via IPv6 for some reason, then I decided to finish the damn wizard and it all broke again
long oyster
i hate it when i look at a video abt someone who made a really cool website and when i go to it the guy copied my own website design
i think the name of the website was smth like "htTps://localhost:3000" or smth
pseudo blade
i think the name of the website was smth like "htTps://localhost:3000" or smth
I'm sorry to hear. Your struggles must be manifold and complex.
opal pagoda
Especially when your intake manifold explodes
too much boost
twin pier
Backfire detonation
spare eagle
Average day with my shitty rural ISP
subtle hollow
Average day with my shitty rural ISP
Are you on the FarmLink plan??
glass prism
Is this the right place to talk about Home labs?
pseudo blade
Is this the right place to talk about Home labs?
It could be? Depends on what you want to talk about.
If Docker or Proxmox's kicking your butt it's probably (but not always) #linux
Hardware's fine and networking's obviously fine
long oxide
I believe I have figured out why Patch Panels are a thing lads.
Y'all are a bunch of lazy asses and don't want to crimp the RJ45 xd
opal pagoda
I believe I have figured out why Patch Panels are a thing lads.
Y'all are a bun...
use keystone modules, no need for crimping
long oxide
use keystone modules, no need for crimping
they are so expensive
oof, just checked. yeah nah, I'll patch panel it, actually is cheaper
opal pagoda
they are so expensive
depends on model, some are less than 1$, some are >10$
i used to use cheap ones at home but i switched to using old ones from work that i can clean up and re use
long oxide
i used to use cheap ones at home but i switched to using old ones from work that...
Yeah, fair enough. If you got free old ones, that's a no brainer
But even the cheapest China special is literally 10x the price of the cheapest China special RJ45 xd
hexed flare
Keystone RJ45 couplers are goated
Theres also even LC to LC fiber couplers that go into keystones, I will likely run fiber in the walls of my next home
opal pagoda
But even the cheapest China special is literally 10x the price of the cheapest C...
they arent that bad
also if you are running a higher quality cable you might not be able to even crimp a regular rj45 jack on it
shut geyser
I am researching whether I can can effectively convert an Asrock Deskmini 110 into a router.
I figured I'd throw the question out here as I scour the web to see if anyone has any thoughts on whether this endeavor is worth it.
opal pagoda
I am researching whether I can can effectively convert an Asrock Deskmini 110 in...
as long as it has one or more ethernet ports it can be a router
os can be vyos or if you want to focus on firewalling then opnsense
shut geyser
as long as it has one or more ethernet ports it can be a router
1 port if I want to make it a wireless router, I assume?
opal pagoda
router on a stick
shut geyser
I REALLY hate the router provided by my ISP, so I am looking for alt approaches.
opal pagoda
1 port if I want to make it a wireless router, I assume?
when in combination with managed switch you can use trunk port between switch and router and get 4094 sub interfaces
shut geyser
I think I need to get smarter to be part of this channel. LOL
opal pagoda
and then have vlan for wan, lan, iot whatever
opal pagoda
I think I need to get smarter to be part of this channel. LOL
is this what you imagined when first hearing about router on a stick
shut geyser
Ha. No. But that is friggin' funny
I think I am better off trying to convert this thing to a NAS.
opal pagoda
it can be both
shut geyser
I don't think I can take advantage of my internet speed with this. But I also don't want to drop $500+ on a nighthawk.
For the record, I think Eero sucks. I hate it with a passion.
spare eagle
Are you on the FarmLink plan??
Nope, usually I get 60mpbs parallel
opal pagoda
I don't think I can take advantage of my internet speed with this. But I also do...
all consumer routers suck
i personally use tp link omada er605 but i dont have the fastest speeds avalibile, if i had multi gigabit avalibile i would have to go with something else
pseudo blade
is this what you imagined when first hearing about router on a stick
This picture has a sound for me, and it's very, very loud...
One terrifically loud bang as the rack hits the wall, then the stick hitting the floor and either everything hitting the door or the door being unlocked and the clatter of all your improperly secured bits hitting the concrete.
I also like the water marks on the floor, nice touch
opal pagoda
One terrifically loud bang as the rack hits the wall, then the stick hitting the...
no no, order is wrong
first is the stick, then the sound of wall anchors failing, then rack fall sound
pseudo blade
no no, order is wrong
first is the stick, then the sound of wall anchors failing...
Well the stick is going to fall with the anchors slamming the rack into the wall, no? Slightly faster than hitting the floor due to travel. Then it eats it
opal pagoda
maybe it gets saved by all the power/eternet cables
pseudo blade
Perhaps
I remember a co-op that I supported that had a rack that wanted to do that. They refused to pay for us to look at it and fix it
opal pagoda
all my racks are either ground mounted or 9m high, no in between
pseudo blade
I think they had 8RU mounted above a desk
shut geyser
i personally use tp link omada er605 but i dont have the fastest speeds avalibil...
yeah, I have 3 gig fiber. So, really looking for a solid 2.5 g router. The consumer router market is terrible and needlessly expensive, though.
next oar
hey guys in cisco packet when trying create a web server on a server, do you add the website to dchp pool? any answer helps.
oak locust
wait what
twin pier
hey guys in cisco packet when trying create a web server on a server, do you add...
Idk much about packet tracer so I'll answer this IRL; I believe its best practice to use dhcp reservations for your servers, and the ip you choose on the reservation would typically be in a separate range not included in the dhcp automatic assignment pool
pseudo blade
Nearly everyone statically assigns IPs to webservers, but a reserved lease is OK too, and probably better in certain circumstances I have had to stop myself from talking about because I can feel the nerd sniping happening
twin pier
in my experience it's better to reserve them for central management, I haven't seen anyone outside of a homelab (and couldn't find anyone recommending that from quick googling) that does static IPs on the devices themselves
oak locust
honestly, to me it boiled down to ease. so unless you pre prov with a static ip template, etc. i do dhcp reservation because it works out of the box on debian then i do the reservation on opnsense
but would be completely fine doing it static as well
royal gull
Nearly everyone statically assigns IPs to webservers, but a reserved lease is OK...
Yeah this is the "industry best practice" for as long as ive worked in IT. Static IP reduces dependencies on yet another thing that can fail in the network.
pseudo blade
...Ok, I'll bite :P
I agree mostly, because if you're running your webserver in a VM, you need that to bring it online anyways. So adding DHCP is adding a dependency. You also wouldn't rush moving an entire subnet over using the pool because your stuff likely has dependencies. However... people are really horrible at documenting address usage, and reserved leases are also helpful for that because now the config there can act as documentation.
pseudo blade
Most enterprise people I deal with outside of cloud statically assign for better or worse, but they're also mediocre sysadmins with skillsets barely into the 2000s
topaz patrol
DHCP also makes renumbering much easier
pseudo blade
You still have to update the forward proxies, load balancers, firewalls...
topaz patrol
True :)
pseudo blade
Such is enterprise lol, nothing's ever allowed to be easy
pastel monolith
You can mix and match for sure personally do as bbaovanc said use DHCP reservations based on MAC address makes it relatively easy to centrally manage, then use pihole as my local DNS so add record there and have wildcard cert for any subdomains so I can reuse that cert for all the services (have like 20 things running here at any given time)
Main thing is just making sure if so any static assignments they are outside of DHCP range so don't end up with IP conflict
Is basically those steps then add the service to traefik so it handles the tls termination and forwarding to underlying containers
Since using microk8s for running things mostly I rely on metallb for a pool of IPs to assign to containers but for host systems I just do it with router DHCP reservations
Real world I've seen labels and other metadata on containers used for wiring up connections or making things discoverable to traefik and handle mapping things there but it varies a lot from one place to another for specifics
Since I have blend of DHCP and metallb handing out IPs I just made separate "pool" of IPs for each so they can't overlap
oak locust
wehat i've tried to do over the years is make my 'home network' essentially enterprise grade, while removing some bloat and improving some things for ease/visibility, etc
problem as you come into enterprise rarely do you have a chance to make any decisions on product and tooling, and if so maybe only partially. so you gotta adapt with the product stack for better or worse
neon wave
in my experience it's better to reserve them for central management, I haven't s...
oh? i've manually changed IP from my linux servers themselves
whats a downside of that
amber urchin
whats a downside of that
If you don't also have the manual range excluded from DHCP you could end up with a conflict and in larger corporate like environments you run into potential documentation issues and management is way easier when you can change it from the router web interface.
pseudo blade
whats a downside of that
Yeah mainly "keeping track of them at scale"
neon wave
fair enough
rocky badge
@clear igloo @waxen scroll This AP won't stay at 2.5GbE and I wonder why... /s
it is currently going: switch -> patch cable -> patch panel -> cable in conduit -> patch panel -> patch cable -> patch panel -> cable in conduit -> patch panel -> patch cable -> AP 🤣 💀
hazy wedge
Hello, wonder if anyone has a recommendation for and wifi extender cause my wifi signal is not good in my bed you but in my living room is perfect, Budget friendlt, Please and Thank you
waxen scroll
it is currently going: switch -> patch cable -> patch panel -> cable in conduit ...
Just use a media converter at both ends
main hazel
anybody a clue how i can "share" a webinterface on my lan ip, that is currently only accessible on 127.0.0.1:someport ,such that i can open it on a dirrerent system... problem is i cannot change the internals of the webserver/app that creates the page afaik
twin pier
the app doesn't have a config file for you to change the listen address to 0.0.0.0?
proud coyote
anybody a clue how i can "share" a webinterface on my lan ip, that is currently ...
theoretically you can use a reverse proxy that is running directly on the system (I believe it may also be possible to do in docker with some config), it should then be able to proxy it
kind pivot
he doesn't need to use a reverse proxy just to open it from another computer
kind pivot
anybody a clue how i can "share" a webinterface on my lan ip, that is currently ...
try reaching it with : server_ip:port on the other computer
pastel monolith
If you've got the source for it can change to bind to 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 lik bbaovanc said above otherwise socat can work if need to just forward all the traffic from some interface to another interface:
socat TCP-LISTEN:8000,fork,bind=192.168.0.130 TCP:127.0.0.1:8000
192 address should be the LAN IP (input) second one is where the process is bound you want to forward to, 8000 is the port in the example here but can change for source or destination, just used python -m http.server --bind 127.0.0.1 to do a quick test here
for windows pretty sure netsh does the same
If have the source, usually searching for the port number can see where the connection is made and add a "host" or "binding" address when creating the connection
opal pagoda
<@291198741862416384> <@186123993412141057> This AP won't stay at 2.5GbE and I w...
Iykyk
stuck grove
How does it detect length?
opal pagoda
How does it detect length?
Tdr
It detects lenght of every single pair, if one wire is broken it will show you distance to that break
ornate jungle
How does it detect length?
It sends itty bitty molerats along the copper tubes with really long flexible tape measures. 
stuck grove
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-domain_reflectometer
Upon further inspection, you should have just said “magik”
mystic hull
Networking
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Just a series of pipes and tubes.
dapper oar
Home, sweet home.
bright finch
do we talk internet and stuff here?
little glacier
Talk about wifi?
slow moth
no we talk about servers :P
plush ivy
Servers, wifi, WAPS, routers, swtiches, stuff like that, it's all networking
bright finch
but man this server has so many channels
dapper oar
We're all here to be fuckin' noids about networking
bright finch
i can't keep up with everything
wise igloo
Yay!!! networking
dapper oar
On a related note, is there a 10GB switch that doesn't cost three kidneys out yet?
quartz sequoia
Nootwoorking
dapper oar
Last time I looked they wanted my first born for like an 8-port.
plush ivy
@dapper oar not in Australia at least.
dapper oar
Mine is terrible
thick minnow
Anyone have oddly satisfying server cable management?
bright finch
i use extender since my pc is far from router
dapper oar
Mine is like a 24:1 ratio
dapper oar
hawt
plush ivy
I used to have sexy af cables, but I had to rewire everything on one of my bad days.
bright finch
(i'm pulling this off of internet)
dapper oar
It's all fun and games until you need to trace a cable
bright finch
dapper oar
And you zip-tied it together
wise igloo
r/cableporn
thick minnow
plush ivy
While I do zip-tie my cables. All my cables are tagged at both ends
dapper oar
I make extensive use of Velcro
plush ivy
I really wanted to use velcro for my entire thing, but I could not find it cheap enough
bright finch
my admittedly not so perfect cable management
dapper oar
I have a vast abundance of velcro
wise igloo
@dapper oar i have one but was worried i was either gonna slice a cable or my hand open
plush ivy
@wise igloo
Side cutters mate
dapper oar
I bought like 100 velcro cable mnagement things for like £5
vagrant heath
Oh, somewhere to post the OC-3072 connection
bright finch
holy cow
dapper oar
Wat
wise igloo
what the fuck
bright finch
that's insane
wise igloo
puts my 100mbps line to shame 😦
dapper oar
Where was the server?
bright finch
Palo Alto
dapper oar
Can you locahost the ookla server?
bright finch
California
vagrant heath
That is a Datacenter in San Jose
agile basin
The cable runs above are making me happy
plush ivy
I was gonna spoof a gigabit speedtest result for giggles but I cbf
wise igloo
agile basin
yooo
wise igloo
speeeds are on point too
agile basin
comcast has 2gb package, but it's lie $300
wise igloo
i usually get about 97-99mbps
vagrant heath
I hate "UP TO"
vagrant heath
This also seems like a good place to post the LMG Server Rack
quartz sequoia
I pay $80 for 20/4
slow moth
idk where you got that also linus storage is at his place
agile basin
^
quartz sequoia
Kan konfim
agile basin
But... you don't have floatplane 🤔
dapper oar
And it was a floatplane exclusive tour
agile basin
🤔
agile basin
?
dapper oar
Your point?
wise igloo
what
vagrant heath
All info in that diagram was from the Floatplane exclusive server room tour. Along with input from Jake and Linus. Sill never found out what that device below the Patch Panel is.
dapper oar
We need to wait for the proper tour
plush ivy
FloatPlane worth it?
vagrant heath
It is
dapper oar
IMO yes
crystal solar
isn't the security box in the rack too?
agile basin
It's combined
agile basin
the multipurpose server
crystal solar
oh right
vagrant heath
If I am also correct. Clover Server and Petabyte Project send off site. (I would also think the Surveillance Server would to)
agile basin
I believe it does, yes
true laurel
Here I am on my little 15:1 ratio'd connection, wishing I had more to use. http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6847608703.png
150/10 connection, not using my private VPN
And then using my private VPN. http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6847613788.png
agile basin
that's not that bad of a drop tbh
true laurel
Which is a 100Mbps symmetric connection providing a full routing/NAT VPN topology
agile basin
oooh
true laurel
And given that is going from my home line, to the server, then to the test server, then all the way back, it's not terrible
especially given that most of the stuff I do through the VPN is web browsing / gaming
agile basin
all the vpns i've used drop my connection from 950/900 to 75/50
agile basin
so I just don't use one.
agile basin
heh "blast" 😉
willow cape
blast from the past
grim spade
Those are speeds I can only dream of... 😖
agile basin
Dial-up kind of blast from the past
willow cape
basically
willow cape
My ethernet is slower than my 5Ghz wifi
grim spade
What are you paying for those speeds? @agile basin
agile basin
wat
willow cape
I'm sitting here like what
true laurel
why would that even matter if your internet is only 1G?
agile basin
we pay for 75/75, they upgraded us to 300/300, then to 500/500, then to 970/880. ALL FOR FREE
willow cape
grim spade
That's insane...
agile basin
Rip
grim spade
I have to live with 2 / 0.2
zinc mirage
im sitting here on a 4g hotspot with a 15gb data cap
grim spade
We are just getting fiber at the beginning of next year
true laurel
ouch
agile basin
rip
grim spade
Welcome to Europe's richest country... <.<
true laurel
Sadly, the best I could get from OVH is a 500Mbps symmetric connection on a dedicated server that costs ~3x as much as I'm paying now
which would be "enough", especially if I went for the closest possible DC that's not in the UK
and thus improve speedtest results
grim spade
All I want is to watch YT videos in 1080p ._.''
true laurel
but the maximum commercially available connection in the UK is 300/20, so why bother?
Unless I move to one of maybe 3 locations that have a proper fibre network
grim spade
And I guess those locations are in the middle of London where renting a apartment would be insanely expensive.
true laurel
nope
grim spade
Not? o.o
true laurel
random towns / cities that are for "technical testing"
grim spade
Oh great....
true laurel
although residences in London can get fibre to teh building, for blocks of flats
so that's something...
Bloody Openreach
At least compute performance isn't a bottleneck for my VPN, even with other services running
agile basin
ooh
true laurel
I probably don't need an i7 box with 16GB of RAM for the stuff it does, but the extra 800MHz and double the CPU cores is definitely worth about 8EUR per month extra
thick minnow
i wish google fiber would come to my place. we were on the list but then we were takin off it because the old farts running my city dont like google
agile basin
rip
nova star
I guess I should join the club as well
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6847775532.png
(I pay around $100/m)
Plus another $15/m for 8 ipv4 addresses
BTW for the people who don't know, but do self hosting of (anything really), Centurylink lets you rent blocks of ipv4 addresses.. (and ipv6.. for the same prices..? don't bother with that..)
fathom hound
Fuckin hell I feel bad for people with <25Mb/s connections
wary sleet
Need help trying to send a mobile hotspot into my router to expand its range.
forest meteor
so we get a networking channel but not a DIY electronics channel? 😠
meh, networking is p. cool anyway
lunar oar
wewlad, that's quite some bandwidth
winged moth
Getting into prosumer networking can be rather daunting.
lean pollen
Over Wifi trough at least a floor and 2 walls
and my brother is watching youtube, if he wasnt it would be 80 down
forest meteor
Yeah, I kind-of need to get into proper prosumer networking
stuck stone
what isp do you have @lean pollen ?
lean pollen
Get
stuck stone
oh
forest meteor
Right now my internet setup is horrible
forest meteor
My setup involves powerline ethernet, a switch and two routers
lean pollen
BTW, the wifi connection is a Asus wifi card to the ISPs router
forest meteor
Both of which were ISP-provided
stuck stone
this is my internet http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6848565332.png
forest meteor
Sharing my internet results right now would be inappropriate since I'm using my school's ethernet 😛
lean pollen
But the WIFI card is great and the router the ISP have seem to be great to
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I have had no problems I have noticed with the wifi I have
at least in the later times
Reason why I have wifi is that laying a ethernet cable would be a big pain in the ass
stuck stone
damn
winged moth
Prosumer FTW.
lean pollen
The ISP router I had long time ago before I switched ISP was utter shit, but the current is actually good
well, before my dad switched
lean pollen
ASUS PCE-AC56 is the wifi card I have
stuck stone
i has no wifi card
winged moth
It's actually a bit slower than I reasonably can get with that but for some reason the router refuses to pass gigabit to one side and I have to run it at lower channel width to keep it stable. I think I fried the Litebeam or something.
Otherwise I'd be able to get the full 150/150 through that.
Running full channel width with power cranked, I was able to speed test the wireless link at 490Mb/s. But that 100Mb/s link kills it.
lean pollen
Wonder what the limit of the setup I have would be. (If my dad paid for more for example)
winged moth
Depends on how close you got to your router.
lean pollen
I know but my computer isn't moving
winged moth
Then the obsticals between you and the router are the main issues. At 5GHz, you'll have some performance issues because of reflections and messy transmissions.
winged moth
MIMO helps too. But a big part is just the ability to get the signal there.
That's why those point to point radios are great. They're capable of doing similar speeds as your normal home network wireless, but they're able to handle a lot more connections, and they're WAY more reliable.
lean pollen
Does it exist some benchmark tool you can do to test the connection between the computer and the router in multiple ways
Like all the numbers
Both speed latency and packet loss and whatever else numbers it might exist
winged moth
Push like 5 services at once and see how badly they shit the bed.
lean pollen
Btw I didn't know about point to point ones except the one Linus tested once
winged moth
I run a couple of game servers, a Plex server, my desktop, and my media management over that wireless link. I tried to use a AP as a bridge for a while and it was absolutely hopeless.
Yeah. I work for a WISP so I had some incentive to get a pair and learn.
lean pollen
So there isn't a benchmark tool you know of that you can just download, then press play and then it tests the connection for example from computer to router and back? For example. I am curious and I have no servers or anything
I don't know that much about networking
winged moth
I know there's one, but I can't remember the name of it.
lean pollen
Oh
lucid lance
i guess this belongs here, tripped upon it when setting up an emby server aas
http://nssm.cc/
lost flint
lucid lance
sure why not
red quest
forest meteor
it's p. good
also it worries me that yours is "faster than 97%" while mine is "faster than 98%"
and mine is still slower
primal cave
lean pollen
Weird
I tried to transfer a file from one computer to another on the network
From my desktop over wifi to my laptop that I plugged in to ethernet
And it didnt only do 10 MB/s
(80Mbit/s)
The same speed as the connection to the outside world
And a transfer between those computers shouldn't affect my brother's computers connection to the outside world much if the network card in my laptop was the bottleneck or something
So here comes a question
Is it possible that the ISP artificially limited the transfer speed in the local network to the same speed that you pay for to the outside world?
I found the router hardware specs have a rated speed that is much higher
plucky burrow
@winged moth ayy http://www.beta.speedtest.net/result/6849905539.png
mighty galleon
Hey i have something ask about wifi network
slow moth
@lean pollen defently not since that would be breaking mutiple laws no bet and its intranet (local) so they cant see what your doing
mighty galleon
I have a Xperia SP (LTE version) is decent, can reach up to 5 meter (more or less) in quite big house
I had Linksys WM54G it was the worst signal reach, about more or less 1 meter
I upgraded to Asus PCE-AC56, It can reach around 5> meter, so i'm happy but main problem is my phone wifi tethering while battery draining?
slow moth
broadcasting power means battery use
mighty galleon
Ah, yeah that's it, I'm running through AC power and keep phone wifi tethering, even i have a SIM Card unlimited data plan without throttle at all.
I'm still looking for alternative the router has USB passthrough the tethering
I wonder it will be excellent signal reach around in my house
I still don't know other router what has USB ports and reliable etc....
(Again, in my house doesn't have a phoneline, fiber at all, So i can use my phone wifi tethering.)
I am getting around 50mbps (more or less even it's LTE network) and 20~40ms ping (more or less depending signal reach)
lean pollen
@slow moth Then why is it affecting my brothers connection to the internet that much?
I have no idea whats happening
The hardware in the router is rated for much higher speed than I am getting
@slow moth Its an ISP router btw
rare glen
So lucky the fastest internet available in Canada is 150 and that's still not enough for my household and we stream game and upload at the same time
slow moth
@lean pollen cause you dont use a router normaly for this
lean pollen
So a router can be worse at transfering stuff between to computer at the local network (one ethernet, one wifi) than from a computer to the outside @slow moth ?
how does that work?
slow moth
cause its the isp router i also dont know how its set so i cant say
turbid frigate
What ISP?
mighty galleon
Internet service provider
mighty galleon
Haha sorry, then.
turbid frigate
No problem, havent been to this channel before 😛 (though I probably should considering I'm planning on a CCNA in the next two years)
lean pollen
Get
lean pollen
Get is my ISP
vagrant heath
I got a switch
nova star
GET /speedtest.php?key=value
We all have Get in a way :) (http protocol)
ancient furnace
That doesn't look like a tablet. 
static falcon
why 2960
its okay
i still rather get a 3560
3750 is all that high end stuff 👌
stacking switches
vagrant heath
I paid nothing for that switch. I am happy I have it
ancient furnace
o: I paid $16 of my 8 port one. :[
static falcon
does it even have a IOS
ancient furnace
I have no idea what that is. 
ancient furnace
The "Network" part of my name is more of a TV network type thing. :V
That was the idea really.
plush ivy
It's all interconnection m8
vagrant heath
My switch has the most recent suported version of IOS
ancient furnace
Ah, it's a Cisco thing, where my network switch is a TP-Link, so I don't think it does. :V
Oh, I'm an idoit.
plush ivy
I'vce never been able to get my hands on any catalyst gear.
We have many switches at work, but they're all from Ciscos SMB range which, while it has a console, it's all basic, stripped down stuff.
ancient furnace
That's a Cisco specific page, but other companies probably have one too. 😐
static falcon
sh version
i use 15.4
i think
i know at least its 15
never really bothered with that
somce school was selling dirt cheap 2811s
they tried to do a switchero
naming the IOS 15 or something
plush ivy
@ancient furnace
The stuff we're talking about is all enterprise level stuff. You won't find it in home/consumer hardware at all, regardless of brand.
static falcon
when it was actually 12
plush ivy
@ancient furnace this stuff usually costs thousands of dollars
static falcon
too bad it wasnt 2901s
would have jumped real fast for some 2901s instead of 2811s :/
ancient furnace
Yeah, I just grabbed a basic unmanaged switch on a black friday sale. XD I'll probably never touch the expensive stuff, because I don't plan on doing Dev Ops or IT.
plush ivy
I'd love anything that ran IOS. It gets bought so quickly here by people doing their CCNAs
static falcon
i did a ccna class
i failed the exam
yet somehow i know more knowledge than most idiots in my ccnp class
with a ccna cert
still need to take my ccna exam again
plush ivy
I had no problem with my CCNA. University provided 24/7 access to the hardware too. So even though I couldn't just do it from home, at least I could go in and complete the labs whenever I wanted there.
flat beacon
nice i'm taking my ccna and a few other nest fall
planning to have a proper netwrk setup for then though cause want XD
static falcon
you might want to get a Cisco ASA
for firewall stuff
havent taken CCNAS yet so not really that sure in that area
flat beacon
ah maybe. Never really lokked at ASAs I know basic setup will be part of it but can't remember how far we went. Its actually part of a full 10 month program that also includes 2 Windows server courses, CCNT 1 &2, CCNAS, Office 365 (Absolutely hate it), ITIL and a little linux. Redoing the course cause last time I messed up on some the the server crap and wasn't able to go for the 2 month work practicum required to finish the program
true laurel
Looking to do a CCNA? Take a look at Humble Bundle!
halcyon steppe
Erm, RIP
bright kernel
Is the materials in the Humble Bundle current enough to learn from? I was curious about getting it, but I know some of their other books they've had in the past were very dated. I've wanted to learn about everything but a bit cautious.
crystal solar
I think this firewall is blueballing all the telemetry on my machine
took it off for half a second and already nvidia's softwares managed to transfer 150kb of data
high anchor
It just doesn't listen over http
thick minnow
i see
shrewd flax
Heh, I know you
thick minnow
Can I ask networking questions in here?
flat beacon
yep
thick minnow
Well then. I have been having a problem for awhile now. I download at 1.6GB/minute and play every game perfectly fine, except games on the blizzard launcher. I disconnect from Overwatch Comp games a lot which is the main problem. But it also happened to me during the destiny beta and WOW when I played it a little bit a few months ago.
turbid frigate
A: Check router logs, B: Could be your ISP doing Ajit Pai things
C: Could be the servers
winged moth
Doesn't the Blizard launcher use torrents to distribute the install files? Could be your ISP is doing janky stuff with torrent traffic.
meager hazel
@rancid apex would recommend taking your ip out of the pic next time
rancid apex
Oh f*ck
meager hazel
yeh lol just incase someone does pick up on it
desert walrus
RIP
rancid apex
It's not my private IP so I'm save😂😉
meager hazel
lucky
winged geyser
mighty galleon
Hey, should i set up the home server? I think, i have a three of PC in my house. (If i don't have to swap/plug HDD or SSD with home server NAS HDD)
(I don't have a exprience about home server, FTP etc.)
In my old PC has two ethernet hub and ECC RAMs (ECC RAMs are expensive)
I don't know if my old PC can handle CPU processing power (It has AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+)
winged moth
What are you wanting to do with it?
If it's just a simple storage server, you can run that off a RPi 3 without much issue.
mighty galleon
Something i want to transfer data like FTP
or later when i need to look stuff when i'm on another PC
high anchor
If you have Windows PCs in your network, I recommand you to run your home server over Linux with Samba (allows you to see your server through the Windows Network thing, and so allows you to mount network drives)
winged moth
^^^
Map the network drive and treat is basically like another hard drive on your computer.
high anchor
And if you aren't that Linux type of guy, you can just use a Windows machine but I have some doubt, I can't remember if there is network sharing limitations on Win Home licenses or no...
But Linux isn't that hard to use with good tutorials. Search for some tutorials about how to install a Debian distro, install and setup a Samba network sharing and others softwares/server you could need (Plex, BitTorrent host (for family movies...) and more advanced stuff like Dyn DNS & OpenVPN for remote access to your network)
mighty galleon
Okay, I'm more Windows guy. I've used Windows 98 SE, maybe I'll change to "SATA to IDE" cable (make a split partition on Pentium 3. I'll add some games via total Commander FTP)
rare glen
My school blocks all VPNS I have tried like 10. They also block tons of websites so I usually use tor. Is there a way I can bypass I'm on a PC and my friends on a Mac we knows our way around a computer very well but we still don't know why we can't get any VPNS to work
winged moth
Get a VPS and host your own VPN.
Could also be that they're using a firewall that's able to block VPN traffic in which case you're hosed.
Or you can use cell tethering to get internet off of the school network.
mighty galleon
^
I have tired try cell tethering and plug off ethernet cable, so i can use internet but lose school server. (or if you're done, plug back and use school server)
rare glen
Douse anyone know any good VPS and what do you mean by cell tethering I know you can tether your data to your PC but you said off the school network
mighty galleon
Oops, i forgot, i've never used VPS, sorry.
high anchor
@rare glen Cell tethering is like sharing your mobile data to your PC.
With a VPS (Virtual Private Server) you can host your own VPN. However you'll need to setup it by yourself, just search for "openvpn install VPS OS" on Google and you should be good.
high anchor
Another issue at OVH's RBX datacenter... Huge packets loss and higher ping.
http://travaux.ovh.net/?do=details&id=28864&PHPSESSID=53dd24e0d9bfcd1abf987eef6cecb292
thick minnow
Ah man again ....
I find this funny look at the date http://status.ovh.net/?do=details&id=15183&PHPSESSID=17aa138ce43f2d673b3552711ccc3c38
high anchor
At least it's not the full datacenter that went off
high anchor
Because it's also impacted by this issue
thick minnow
And i am in Sbg 2
Atleast the server is online 😄
Ah fudge my server rack has a cooling failure ...... atleast its redundant so still no downtime 😄
lofty ermine
Guys, I've got a printer(192.168.0.x) connected to my router(192.168.0.1) which is bridged to my modem(192.168.100.1) and I want to access such printer from my hardwired pc which is connected to the modem. how'd I go about doing so
thick minnow
Connect the printer to the modem ?
lofty ermine
don't really want to use the crappy modem wifi/can't hardwire
thick minnow
#OVhUpdate It's UP. We freeze tonight's maintenance to understand why the configuration disappears while using the latest version of the software .. Sorry!
Hmmm
high anchor
Twitter
high anchor
thin storm
hey does anyone here have a pfsense router?
this logo doesnt go away when i hit the "x"
true laurel
This damn Cisco patch again? This was a problem weeks ago, and now they've introduced it to level 3 equipment? Gorrammit Cisco. At least RBX1 is performing normally again...
Still not as good as when BT (UK ISP with huge fibre network) screwed the pooch at Farrady House (a primary distribution point in London, servicing lines to points of presence in datacentres such as Manchester) and broke all the router configs for about 6 hours. And I mean so perfectly broken they were taking entire lines offline, resetting the routers, then re-applying the same damn patch, only to bring it all down again.
Much fun was had that day, and I basically sat on the phone, all day, asking BT "What the FUERK are you monekys doing?!?!"
turbid frigate
Ah, I have this with my HTTPS security certificate issues on my server (an error instead of a logo but same issue). Just inspect it in the browser and delete that part
fathom hound
Internet keeps cutting out every now and then. Speeds are way slower than they should be/normally are.
Comcast Cable Internet
Downstream signals look fine, upstream power levels are a bit high. (53, 47, 52)
Comcast support had said it's a dying modem, haven't had a tech out to take a look yet though.
Coax cable comes in from a weather sealed coupler at the pole, then comes over to another weather sealed coupler at the house, then pops inside and goes straight to the modem.
Modem is a SURFboard SB6121, have had it for about 4-5 years, running 24/7.
Any suggestions? I could get new couplers and replace those, and/or get a new modem. Looking at getting the SB6183 if I need to replace it.
turbid frigate
"Comcast Cable Internet" <- Theres your problem
Even if they arn't throttleing, they could have a box somewhere along the lines between you and them thats flooded full of mud
do replace that modem though and check the termination on the coax, if its not crimped well, cut it and re-crimp it
fathom hound
It spikes back up to full speed for short periods of time
And Comcrap is my only real option
the fastest service AT&T offers here is 25Mb/s (I get 90/12 from Comcrap), so no way I'm going with that, and there aren't really any other options
#SoMuchISPCompetitionI'mDying
thick minnow
Well to put it right The server stayed online but the network went down so ya
RIP
It almost better then LTTHosting because then the server room would be on fire
true laurel
@fathom hound I would try a new modem, then check noise levels on the various lines and try attenuating accordingly
Although, last time I had these sorts of problems, only downstream was affected, and ping wasn't completely broken. It was a problem with an over-provisioned network node at the ISP level, could with truly awful line cards. Took them 4 months to pull their thumbs out of their asses and fix the stuff
fathom hound
Looks like I'll be going with a new modem. Current one only seems to be 4x3, new one will be 8x4, so that'll be nice
fresh holly
I need a new AP, n-wifi bogs down when laptop makes backups over the wifi, any suggestions in 50-150 USD range? It only needs to serve wifi and only to my devices (guest wifi is on another AP).
Currently I have an Asus RT-N66 in AP mode.
true laurel
I mean, I have a Netgear X4 R7500 at home
It's been superceded by the X4S
Great piece of kit
nimble surge
Hiii..i need help.. one of my windows 10 pc show an empty folder in the network sharing.. and obviously the sharing files option is enable, that happened before I try to conect to the computer and this one doesn’t had an account password, I set an account password y the problem start
I place the troubleshoot and give me this
candid fog
DOCSIS 3.1 gigabit. Scam, or reasonable fiber alternative for those of us without providers offering proper fiber gigabit?
true laurel
Depends on the cost
Technically, it is gigabit. Modem is a bit expensive
Fiber is much more expandable though, so should have a lower long term cost (if available)
thin wing
rocky badge
It basically shows the steps to get to the address you input. It is not very accurate for geolocation, for example it doesn't show my county it shows the county where my ISPs office is.
burnt pecan
just curious, is a ping of 0 ms possible
vagrant heath
Within LAN. Sort of. (<1 ms ping)
jaunty shadow
Yeah, technically no but with rounding, yeah
true laurel
Which carrier?
visual charm
fathom hound
Rip
hallow vortex
Okay internet speed? (Will it do for streaming? Sharing it with fam.)
wintry vapor
streaming's good for me and I've got this:
oblique stone
how good lol
hallow vortex
wow.
Not worse than a friend of mine, 0,9 up and 0,7 down 😄
ping, prob higher than 9k lol
oblique stone
dude
this internet is awesome
lemme tell ya
i can actually stream hd bullshit
no joke
clever trout
I've satellite internet, because that's the only way to get decent speed's
25/10 instead of 3/0,5
And at <1km they are offering 1Gbps internet
bright hemlock
I have alright speeds of 100/40. It just sucks when servers within Australia aren't on the NBN 😦
thick minnow
200 download 20 Upload upload could be higher tho
true laurel
I need to collect some capital together and ask some UK carriers how much to lay at least 3 Gbps lines to a single address. For redundancy you know?
turbid frigate
How long must the cable be? If its just to the street materials cost is $500-ish
for fibre take the length, divide by two, and add pricing for SFP adapters, "modem," underground conduit, and the install box onto the pole
thick minnow
Out of curiosity does anyone know what it’s going to cost me to to have spectrum run about 3 miles of cable? I’m fed up with 6 mb/s dsl
cold junco
Jeez 50k?
tough bluff
nearest connection was 16 miles
we had no tv or internet before this
we also have a mini cell tower for verizon
cold junco
Wowwws
thick minnow
I wish I had thatinternet speed
most HOME network providers here don't support a gig internet
fathom hound
I swear, cumcast is throttling me or something
Power levels on my modem are exactly the same as they have been for the past 5-6 days
During the day, I get about 2.5Mb/s down, 10Mb/s up
daring cargo
could call them to check your setup
fathom hound
I called them last weekend
they said my modem was dying and that was the cause for it
Seeing how speeds are perfectly fine right now, and have been since it got towards the "slow hours" of the night, I call bullshit
I'll probably end up calling and bitching up a storm tomorrow
daring cargo
unless everyone in your neighborhood is torrenting simultaneously during the day
fathom hound
I doubt it
thick minnow
Just jumping in the conversation, even if we, in our neighborhood seem to download a lot, the speeds of the others seem to drop.
thick minnow
So probably not that bad since I’m only going 3 miles from the nearest connection and it’s not a 1gb fiber line?
thick minnow
Not that bad indeed. I don't have fibre optic either
fresh holly
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6864138878.png
VDSL2 powwa 60/10 on paper.
fathom hound
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6864505778.png
Look at that
Internet speed is still up where it should be
I bet those fuckers were just throttling us
thick minnow
Thank god. I don’t have 50k to drop on that shit.
ancient furnace
My ISP offers 300mbps for business, but not for consumers.
full wasp
400mbps is the highest my isp offers
was 300, but everybody in the country who had that contract got a free upgrade to 400
turbid frigate
wait? did I just read "verizon is amazing?"
silver copper
fathom hound
I could get a 2Gb/s connection, though I bet the upload would still only be like 15Mb/s
rocky badge
Hurry up. Screaming at a 120 down connection
true laurel
Why do you need the test files to finish though?
rocky badge
idk I wanna
true laurel
You would also get better per file speeds by not running simultaneous downloads
But that's a moot point given the files contain no data
thick minnow
@full wasp I hate you i have 1 package lower XD
rocky badge
@true laurel yeah ik plus this is a nas in a seperate room so I dont wanna run back and forth
true laurel
But you could just remote access it. I mean, even if it's Linux, you can still get in pretty easy
rocky badge
its Windows 10 Home...
thick minnow
Iewl home edition
thick minnow
Oh lolz
rocky badge
- my laptop main windows device which is OEM
rocky badge
lol
thick minnow
@full wasp Ik Ik but the upload could be higher
rocky badge
I get a slow 7Mbps up...
agile basin
Lemme drop this then. This is abnormally slow
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6865142452.png
fresh holly
I get 60/10, would rather have 30/30....
rocky badge
I would like gigabit
fresh holly
Spoiled fibre users! You do not know what real life is like!
agile basin
effective upload speed ~50MB/s
rocky badge
121.821GB used I need to use more!
agile basin
or 500Mbps on a speedtest.net test
fresh holly
50MB/s is capped by your hardware or server that you are uploading to?
agile basin
Dunno
rocky badge
when one device sucks all of my bandwidth and my router tries to even it out
https://i.imgur.com/I1s4A4s.png
agile basin
download is also ~50MB/s
so it might be a hardware limit
Wait..... might be my ssd that's bottlenecking it
Should get a 960 pro huh....
rocky badge
lol my ssd isnt a bottleneck its the nic
2.5GB/s read
2GB/s write
nic: 1 gigabit
agile basin
what ssd?
rocky badge
samsung oem m.2 nvme
rocky badge
256GB samsung oem from asus
fresh holly
SSD should be in a 400-500MB/s range, if it's not total shit 😛
agile basin
lol
fresh holly
512GB SSD-s are usually quite fast.
agile basin
My dektop has some cheap micron
rocky badge
when I copy files its usally my interfaces are the bottleneck
rocky badge
Like a HDD nas is bottlenecked by gigabit ethernet
agile basin
oh... really? an hdd can do that?
fresh holly
yeap
agile basin
hmm
rocky badge
1 gigabit is like 125MB/s
fresh holly
on a large enough file, with small files HDD will fail hard
agile basin
what about 2 laptop hdd's raid 0'ed together?
rocky badge
its not even a 7200rpm hdd
fresh holly
Any SSD should saturate gbit without problems
rocky badge
https://i.imgur.com/5iUcwkp.png external ssd bottleneck
fresh holly
365MB/s = 3gbit/s
rocky badge
yeah which is 2 under usb 3.0
fresh holly
there will always be overhead.
rocky badge
the external ssd rated at ~300MB/s
weak spire
@fresh holly 365MB/s does not = 3gbits/s. 3000MB/s (and sum) = 3gbit/s
fresh holly
megabyte vs megabit 😃
lilac zodiac
Hey guys I need to order new switches for my Doorms, how important would you say trunk overcapacity is for stability? Do I need 40/40Gbits in order to support 20 appartments with 1/1Gbits?
turbid frigate
I'd say go for 10Gbit if your doing 20 appts with 1gbps, not like everyone will be downloading wikipedia at the same time. If it ends up being an issue its easy enough to run another 10gbit line
fresh holly
Consider this: For electricity there is 3x100A fuse for the whole block and sometimes 30 apartments with 20A fuses.
Internet works much the same way, people do not usually all peak at the same time
very rarely will anyone use up all of the 1gbit anyway.
agile basin
porn Games maybe
fresh holly
even VR HD++++ porn is not gbit 😄
agile basin
But if you download it...
fresh holly
most people's PC-s are bottlenecks for torrents with that large speeds. And single servers rarely give single user gbit. It is really hard to saturate 1gbit connection, I am sure anyone that has 1gbit at home can confirm 😛
fresh holly
We used to have 1gbit connection for 3 dorms, it was okaish (100mbit to rooms).
agile basin
that's pretty nice
agile basin
de-auth
fresh holly
at that is 3 full dorm houses
agile basin
Just de-auth everyone
fresh holly
probably 500+ people per house
only problem was that we were behind NAT, so torrenting was not that great and could not host servers ourselves 😦
agile basin
rip
fresh holly
Times were different, there was central FTP server with pirated stuff to reduce load on outgoing connection 😄
everyone knew about it
turbid frigate
TL;DR just run 10Gb's trunk lines and forget about the rest
regal thistle
Anyone know anything about wireless network cards for destops?
regal thistle
I had made a forum post about it but I am a newb when it comes to wireless nic's
agile basin
It's ok
regal thistle
Someone suggested the Asus PCE-AC55BT
it's going in a new pc, already almost have all the parts for it.
regal thistle
Well would my motherboard factor into this or not?
agile basin
it shouldn't
regal thistle
any difference between the Asus - PCE-AC55BT B1 and the Asus - PCE-AC55BT?
agile basin
Not that i know of no
lunar timber
I'm going to be running an active HDMI cable and USB over Cat5e from my PC room to living room.
Any suggestions on cable management? My initial thought was to just fun them on the roof against the wall, but don't want things ugly.
willow cape
https://puu.sh/yDbBr/2f13d52dc3.png Can anybody help me get that Add button appear?
lilac zodiac
Thank you @turbid frigate for the advice on the trunck bandwith 😃
about the gbit gbyte thing:
there is 8 bit on 1 byte!
so 8Gbit/s = 1Gbytes/s but you also will have overhead if you just use standard info...
So 3Gbit/s = 3/8 Gbytes/s ~ 375Mbytes/s.
Concerning the Appartment I need 2 switches that can handle about 40 appartments for students, we have 1Gbit dedicated wavelength optic module on the wan side. Not all will have 1Gbit routers anyway, so I assume 20 people per switch may accuire one. Some dont even use a router, so less trafic. We have a PFSense Routing system controlling all the switches, but the old ones are about to give up, 2 out of 4 have Fan Defects, and thermal throttles. Besides for being almost 10 years old.
Our current trunk in 4 of the switches currently run 1Gbit, but their ports can only support 100/100 full Duplex or 500/500 Simplex, the last switch is our main switch which has support for 1gbit on the lan ports or possibly 40Gbit on the trunks, and a PFsense double lan with 2 simplex of 1gbits each. Problem is I most likely need new optic modules anyway as the old ones doesnt confrom with the new standard form factor from cisco.
fathom hound
Comcrap better give me like a month free after this fucking bullshit
I'm probably going to look into getting one of their technicians out some time next week. If they try to charge me for it, I wonder if threatening to switch to AT&T would get them to drop the technician fee
steel canyon
I got my isp to install a brand new phone line (stuck on adsl2 because Australia) when my internet shat itself, 100% free of charge
took them 2 months to decide there was a problem though
olive raft
quick question, i have a 10/100 modem and want gigabit speeds from one office to another. If i buy a gigabit switch and connect the 2 PC's to it and then to the modem would i get a gigabit internal network speeds or would it default to the slowest speed i.e the modem at 10/100?
rocky badge
unless traffic is going throught the modem internet traffic it will not be bottlenecked,
so yes, localy you can get gigabit speeds but to the internet no you will get 100gbit @olive raft
olive raft
@rocky badge thanks, just what i needed to hear!
rocky badge
😃
lilac zodiac
@olive raft but only if your clients network card supports 1000/1000 full duplex. But most do nowadays
fathom hound
Found the issue with my internet
rocky badge
?
fathom hound
Either one of the couplers or the cable between the pole and my house is shit
rocky badge
lol
fathom hound
connection was 10/10 when I connected my modem directly to the cable from the pole
rocky badge
so your isp is gonna have to fix something?
fathom hound
Yea
they're gonna have to send someone out to probably dig up the cable and replace it in sub-freezing temperatures with snow everywhere
rocky badge
hahaha...
fathom hound
Hell, if it wasn't freezing out, I'd replace the damn thing myself
rocky badge
that is what techs are for lol
turbid frigate
Just tell them its an intern job and you'll supervise them
fathom hound
Looks like I get to do the replacement myself
The ground is frozen, so they can't really dig up the cable to replace it.
turbid frigate
get a backhoe and dig I guess
fathom hound
Nah, I just bought a 100' cable and new couplers and ran that above the surface
I'll deal with burying it or having them replace their shitty cable in the spring I guess
cause now everything works perfectly
true laurel
Get someone out to do the work, then charge your ISP for the trouble. Administrative fees should be included for the convenience of them not having to organise the work
fathom hound
Works has been done, I'll just have them fix their shit once the ground thaws
exotic smelt
Ouch
unreal wedge
And that's my promised 1.5/0.5 Mb/s @ $35USD/month.
We're switching in February to a new provider that's coming to the area promising 25Mb down @ $25USD/month.
They also come with a tv deal, but no bundles, which I'm happy with.
Basically 300+ HD channels + a DVR and 25Mb/s internet for less than $100USD.
slim elk
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6870639992.png $95 CAD should be 10mbit upload but someone must be clogging up the lines with Roblox uploads
rocky badge
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4lb-V3UoAE5Fxg.jpg wow. Discord networking!
turbid frigate
Someone needs to give them a crimper, modular RJ45 jacks, and a good length of bulk CAT6
rocky badge
lol
flat beacon
Lol yes
high anchor
Pic of a training bay in my school. We have more recent switches and routers still in boxes somewhere.
final viper
Meanwhile I'm 26 and only just starting to learn Networking thanks to my new workplace requiring me to know it XD
So far what I've gathered from what I've been able to get hands on with; is literally cable goes one end, then goes the other.
That said the infrastructure is already setup. So that's all I really can do at this stage I suppose
high anchor
I'm 19 (and most of my classmates are 18), school system in france is cool (-ish, if you know what you want to learn for your future job) for specialized curriculum. And we even have funds from the gov to learn (in my case 450€/mo on 10 months, at 1200€/yrs-ish, my school is kinda cheap ^^)
final viper
It honestly sounds like mainland EU has it's Education system way better designed than ours in the UK tbh.
high anchor
Depending on which country, yeah. (Germany and France are great examples)
final viper
I'm also what the leave voters label a "Remoaner" XD
Yeah it sounds it; I think I read somewhere the Netherlands has a decent system aswell? Or I might be thinking of the German system
high anchor
I don't know anything about Netherlands school system so...
final viper
Probably thinking of the German one.
As for networking. I feel like it's the server side I need to learn most of all. As how switches work seems like pure common sense to me.
That is unless I have merely scratched the surface (most likely)
high anchor
In my current school curriculum, I learn networking (routers and switches) and also some server stuff (Windows and Linux) in a enterprise environement (ActiveDirectory... That kind of stuff)
But as I already learnt how to use a Linux based dedicated server, this isn't as helpful as it would normally be...
final viper
In all honesty, Active Directory seems no more complicated than Discord's Roles when making your own Discord Server lmfao.
That said, I have come into this work place with the whole infrastructure already setup, so I'm probably seeing it as easy as it's going to be tbf.
rocky badge
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6872361430.png and http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6872361427.png our school must give each user around 120/120..
rocky badge
ones on a laptop an the other is a ipad on our schools wifi
dense dagger
nice
dense dagger
Ridiculous
rocky badge
that could explain some things...
does our school have fiber, i think ena doesnt do fiber...
winged moth
Getting fibre is pretty cheap these days.
dense dagger
^
winged moth
Like I'm planning to put in a fibre run in my house because it's lower profile than ethernet.
rocky badge
yeah but our area doenst have a fiber network, closest one is ~20-30 miles away
not yet anyways, we could get fiber in our whole county soon...
winged moth
That's residential networks. Sounds like you're at a school. They'll get a dedicated ibre run to be able to handle the kind of throughput that a school needs.
rocky badge
wait fiber??
winged moth
"Hard to reach areas using a mix of available technologies" Sounds like a WISP.
winged moth
That's some internet package not an actual term. Or at least not a term I've ever heard.
Ahh, it's a conglomerate.
pure oasis
@unreal wedge looooool I pay $77/mo to get HD TV and 1gig up and down connection
pure oasis
@unreal wedge My country is cheaper and I'm legitamately happy about it
unreal wedge
Send your prices over here.
static falcon
who wants to help me set up ipv6 rip redistribution with bgp
already got ipv4 but ipv6 is rather challenging
exotic smelt
Why IPv6 if I may ask?
static falcon
i have to use ipv6
atomic plaza
ipv6 is so fun! You can go on hyperboria!
wind sandal
agile basin
Favourtism/They're a big enough company to request a specific address
high anchor
@wind sandal They've just manually gave this IPv6, as they maybe have the 2a03:2880:f11b:0083::0/64 subnet and so can attribute any IPv6 they want
Even if they want to keep the face:b00c, they still have +17M IPv6 at max on a /94 subnet
And if you think that giving a /64 (18,446,744,073,709,552,000 addresses to be exact) subnet to anyone is something dumb because no one would need it, it would only be a microscopic fraction of the IPv6 pool :
IPv6 is a really funny thing ^^
Another funny thing, for a residential internet access in France, my ISP gave me a /56 IPv6 subnet (4,722,366,482,869,645,213,696 addresses...) and it still don't change the fraction of the IPv6 pool as it is microscopic ! (at this scale)
agile basin
If only Verizon used IPv6...
high anchor
And yet USA is ahead of a lot of countries https://www.google.fr/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption&tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption
rocky badge
yet our new ISP modem doesnt get a ipv6 address... i wanna replace it....
vagrant heath
Comcast gave me a static Ipv6 address.
high anchor
Only one IPv6 ?! Not a subnet ?!
high anchor
With IPv6 you get a full subnet with most ISP (In my case, i got a /56 subnet, told it in a message a bit upper)
And there is no mistake about this
turbid frigate
basically IPv6 has enough IP addresses to cover the numbers needed on this planet as well as the ones needed for a fully terraformed mars
so giving someone 256 IPv6 addresses is no biggy
speaking of which i should see if I can get a handful for free from my ISP for server hosting
high anchor
@turbid frigate 256 addresses is true for /56 IPv4 subnet, not /56 IPv6 subnet (hexadecimal stuff and 32>128bits makes this number bigger)
turbid frigate
ah, not well versed in IPv6
I can speak about octets all day long but when it comes to IPv6 I say "Just use this DNS server that I copied and pasted the IPv6 through"
high anchor
Mistake from my part, 256 IPv4 addresses is /24 subnet
IPv6 subnet masks starting at the middle of this page
And so /56 is 256 * /64 IPv6 subnet mask
turbid frigate
thats a lot of IP's
agile basin
*Not enough
fathom hound
Fuckin hell
Intenet is already starting to not work, it's only been like 3 days since I fixed it
Cuckcast better be able to send one of their techs out ASAP
IDC that there's a foot of snow on the ground
this shit needs fixed
turbid frigate
yeah you have 12 hours to fix it
After that they will just disconnect your lines thanks to our glorious FCC
fathom hound
Basically
I was so fucking close to getting to switch to Spectrum, but they don't have service where I live yet .-.
Just in other areas for the same zip code I guess
I swear, this internet is giving me cancer
Should be 90/12....
Bout to go walk my ass out there in the foot of snow we have and reconnect the old cable or some shit
agile basin
Lemme just sliiiiide
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6877697563.png
fathom hound
I think my modem is definitely part of the issue
I just restarted the damn thing and speeds went back to 85/12
agile basin
lol
cobalt sage
I only have Ethernet cords in my city not fibre cables I cri
vagrant heath
Um. What. You mean Phone lines or Coax? You don't run ethernet over long distances.
meager hazel
You can but you just don't
subtle depot
900 down on verizon... You must be paying in gold
true laurel
The blood of all those who oppose the FCCs plans
cobalt sage
150 down 12 up for me
cobalt sage
who's watching the net neutrality live stream
thick minnow
^ Save the americans
They dont need someone else to destroy the country
Donald trump can manage that on him self
fathom hound
I wouldn't be surprised if it affects other countries
thick minnow
I hope that europe aint so stupid
high anchor
wet schooner
hahaha
true laurel
That is a strangely attractive cat
cobalt sage
I'm not american but I still take it to look at it and see what's changing there
daring cargo
i mean stuff that happens in the US will have a decent chance to affect other regions , so it's good to stayed informed
same thing in the reverse
elder olive
will the internet thing affect australia at all?
potent cape
Indirectly
atomic plaza
God I need fibre
cobalt sage
it's only going to inflect people in usa but still not certain about canada
thick minnow
I got a NAS last week, its connected through a gigabit switch and cat 6 cable, but it only says 95-99mbps in task manager when copying to a ram drive https://i.imgur.com/vwm6RA7.png
rocky badge
are you asking why speeds are slow?
thick minnow
It's capable of gigabit speeds but not transferring at that speed
rocky badge
what is your nas and drives?
rocky badge
ik this is silly but in disk station does it say full 1gigabit?
thick minnow
idk but another computer can transfer with the same switch at higher than 100mbit
rocky badge
is the pc's nic gigabit? have you transfered to that ram drive at higher speeds on a local disk?
thick minnow
I think so
thick osprey
it's almost certainly your disks, unless you're running multiple RAID'ed SSDs you're not going to saturate a gigabit connection
thick minnow
I'm going to try with a different gigabit cable
thick osprey
ignore me, I can't read
agile basin
I can
thick minnow
different cable: https://i.imgur.com/tN5zmL8.png
thick osprey
have you checked the theoretical max link speed on your nic of the transfering computer?
thick minnow
how would I find that out?
thick osprey
under Control Panel>Networking and Internet>Network Connections, right click on your nic and select Status
thick minnow
thick osprey
yeah looks like your nic can only handle 100 megabit, which would translate to about 12.5 megabytes per second
thick minnow
would a usb 3 to gigabit adaptor improve speeds?
thick osprey
yeah, it should, if it's gigabit
thick minnow
thick osprey
yeah that would work
alternatively they sell pcie cards if you don't want something external
thick osprey
ok so an external adapter is probably your best bet, since that motherboard only has two pcie slots and most gpus take up two
true laurel
If you do plan on putting a graphics card in, make sure you can power it (if external power is required by the card). Had a new machine at an office that needed a GTX 970 putting in it, but couldn't because the integrated power supply for the pre built PC didn't have any PCI power
modern portal
@thick minnow it is possible that your nic did not switch to Gigabit automatically. Try to see if you can change the speed manually. Go back to Ethernet Status window and follow those steps to change the speed manually.
agile basin
The max I ever see is 100Mbps Full duplex, even though it's a Broadcom netlink gigabit ethernet
🤔
royal dragon
Hardware ID? Checked for damaged connectors?, 1/10G uses all 8 connectors.
agile basin
but... my speeds are 1 gig so 🤔
thick minnow
The best speed ive gotten this week (Inner west sydney australia)
thick minnow
coaxial
plain fog
wow
thick minnow
legit considering getting a dedicated fiber line
plain fog
Guys, let's crowdfund Genome's dedicated fibre connection
thick minnow
its legit so trashy
plain fog
which provider?