networking

[lean palm]

well the intended design is the u7 pro gets powered from the fiber

then the lite gets the poe injector

they are trying to expand more in to the business segment where its industry standard to use poe switches or order per ap psus

[twin pier]

oh i completely missed the lite, i thought the cgf didn't have any poe and that was just for a single u7 pro, interesting

[long oxide]

Guys, I'm lost.

How do connect my TrueNAS to Wireguard I have running on VPS somewhere else?

Everything I can find is about setting up the TrueNAS to be the wireguard server.

Essentially what I want to do is to be able to connect from outside like I can with Tailscale, but faster. Since that option uses some free relays or something and can barely stream my linux.iso via Jellyfin

[amber urchin]

Assuming you can open a port you can do that - you'd want a VM running the wireguard server (unsure if this can be within truenas) or a physical machine running it. Alternatively - you could run your own headscale on a rented VPS and point your tailscale clients to it. Though do be aware of data limits on the VPS.

[long oxide]

The issue is, I can't open any ports. I mean, I technically can, but my ISP is absolutely useless, even if I pay for static public IP. So any kind of hosting at my house is out of the question.

I already have set up Wireguard on a VPS in some datacenter somewhere, it works perfectly. As a VPN exit node. My main objective is to connect my TrueNAS to it

[amber urchin]

https://headscale.net/stable/usage/getting-started/

[long oxide]

So I should use that instead of Wireguard?

(Apologies, but networking is black magic to me and I freshly ran out of sacrificial goats, hence my lack of success)

[amber urchin]

I am not sure if you can use the headscale as an exit node. It replaces the free public servers you were talking about and runs on your own hardware (or virtual server) instead. Then your NAS and clients would join your privately run tailscale.

[long oxide]

That's reasonable. I suppose I can still have the Wireguard running parallel, having a VPN is nice

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

[amber urchin]

yeah it is possbile that you can install headscale along next to the wireguard - or if you can use the headscale as an exit node, you may not even need wireguard, just put it on the tailscale network and set it to use the exit node.

It may be worth spinning up a temporary VPS to test with depending on how critical your VPN is.

[oak locust]

ugh...tryuing to do a topo diagram with openai and its using this live canvas thing. its good to do this live but doing it this way isnt like 'moving objects around in space' like lucid or visio..its all code

[twin pier]

It should be the same, wireguard isn't a server client type thing. You just have peers that talk to each other

[long oxide]

I'm struggling, ngl. Damn networking.

Thanks for the ping, reminded me to get a break 😄

[ornate jungle]

The "sacrifice a goat" requirement reminded me of this 9 year old gem.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4l7kjd/found_a_text_file_at_work_titled_why_should_i/

[stuck grove]

the time and dedication is admirable

[oak locust]

anybody play with eve-ng and get something robust into their own siem stack?

i haven't done this since GNS3 and realizing how much I've missed out over the years

[zinc mortar]

anyone has experience with a RTL8127AT nic? i need a preferably SFP+ nic supporting at least 10G while using pcie 4.0 x1. found this one and it seems solid, but does anyone have any experience using it? is it stable? it's a realtek chip but i don't really see anything negative about it

[oak locust]

i mean i've used realtek before, not sure of that one. but i would always try to get an hp or intel one first if you can. for my pc i have a gtek 10gbit one and it's fine lol but in my server its an intel. what hardware you looking t put this in?

[opal pagoda]

i believe @silent flax has it

from what i last heard linux drivers only supported rj45 version

.

[oak locust]

its not just linux though. my sfp dacs have always worked just fine at least in debian

10gbit and 1gbit

[opal pagoda]

just this specific nic chip is really new

for regular ass connectx cards they dont care as they are well supported

[silent flax]

as i answered in the other chat - Windows drivers work fine, Linux side for SFP version was merged in Kernel 7.0

[silent flax]

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=fef0f545511f72223481aab1fd24d5f8f1c9d774 for Linux (as i mentioned, it was merged in Kernel 7.0), Windows worked straight out of the box. The only weird thing is that due how SFP works, it always reports a 10Gbe Link, even if it is connected to just 2.5Gbe link

(the original pull request https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[e-mail]/ )

(RTL8127AT is RJ45 btw, RTL8127ATF is the SFP version)

[oak locust]

hmmm, so you're saying a 10gb sfp on a less than 10gbit sfp link still reads as 10gb...

i'm only in a 10gbit port so i'll have to check later

but i am just saying 'work wise' it was plug in play for me on proxmox

i also did direct pass through to opnsense, so opn sees it as an IXL

[silent flax]

yes, because link is handled by the SFP module itself and the chip probably doesn't report the real link speed. ConnectX was obviously plug&play too, this Realtek not so much, but that is only because the most 8127 functionality dropped only in 6.16 and SFP 8127 support came in 7.0

[oak locust]

i get it, that makes sense

[silent flax]

there is a huge difference tho when it comes to lanes (x1 4.0 is important for some) or power consumption (8127 uses only 1.5W or so)

[oak locust]

whats sfunny is this was kinda related to a small issue that sent me down a rabbit hole and eventually a whole infra upgrade 😄

i had a copper 1gbit sfp and felt how HOT they got

im like i dont like that, boom, 2 weeks later i'm 10gbit across the house, new nics, new switch etc lol. told wife was essential

[opal pagoda]

any sfp to rj45 is very power hungry

[oak locust]

yep, i guess i just hadn't really handled one in awhile outside a datacenter environment. and it wasn't copper

i mean it was physically harm you hot

[opal pagoda]

soon it will be 3 month anniversary of my TAC case being open

[oak locust]

are you a problem child case?

you know in hindsight i kinda thought it woudl be good to do a cisco or juniper tac route. yes it'd be like 10 miles deep 10 inches wide but good salary and you can still 'check in check out' with handovers.

[opal pagoda]

cisco c9200l being bugged af

[oak locust]

i decided against vendor evanglism

[oak locust]

do you have a 'it took us too long to figure out here's a new one' issue? or is it ios itself

[opal pagoda]

we escalated it like 3-5 times to our KAM

[opal pagoda]

here you go our initial TAC message:

we're experiencing constant flapping of uplink port on our C9200L switch stacks installed at our location in xxxxxxx Device mentioned in this case is one 12 stacks of switches that are having exactly the same issue. What we recognized is common to all those switches is that they're connecting to same aggregation switch (Cisco C9500) using same type of SFP modules - GLC-LH-SMD (SPF SN used in this case are ACWxxxxxxxx and ACWxxxxxxxx).
We can see that uplink ports are reporting high number of CRCs which relates to error reports from our users saying that devices connected to those switches are from time to time losing connectivity with their respective server. As we're talking about switches in our 24/7 production area, unstable network connectivity poses a risk for high quality production process.

So far, we've tried following:

• cleaning L1 (fiber ports) on both sides
• using different fiber ports (all ports are with positive OTDR result)
• using different uplink ports on switch
• replacing SFPs (always the same type)

Interestingly, we also have in use same type of switches with exactly the same uplink port configuration, but connecting with 1G MM SFP (GLC-SX-MMD) or 10G SM SFP (SFP-10G-SR-S). There we have no issues at all.
Likewise if same SFP's are used on C9200 they have no flap

so far TAC has replaced two out of 24 affected SFP's with ones with diffrent 3 letter starting SN and that fixed this for that stack

[oak locust]

ah interesting

so you pending any more sfp? or is case open because you're still doing qa/qc after replacement?

[opal pagoda]

today we had a call with them and their response was "we are still getting aproval for bulk replacement of sfp's"

[oak locust]

oof

[opal pagoda]

and them not being able to reproduce the problem becouse they werent using same switch hardware LOL

[oak locust]

its a chronic issue they should be prioritizing especially if this is your prod eivonrment

[oak locust]

https://giphy.com/gifs/disney-frozen-review-WrNfErHio7ZAc

[opal pagoda]

today we said do ya want us to send you a whole switch so you can test it

[zinc mortar]

I’ll likely be getting 1 first for my main windows machine, and possibly a 2nd for my proxmox server. I already have a X540 in there fully working so me swapping would only be to reduce heat and efficiency

[atomic sequoia]

Yall how are VPS bandwidth caps billed/counted? Just outbound traffic or both inbound and outbound?

[amber urchin]

Pretty sure it's both unless otherwise specified.

[opal pagoda]

depends on your provider

[atomic sequoia]

Eugh thatll suck. Ive got a pretty affordable local VPS and it'd be neat if I could proxy everything through them, but their data caps are tiny.

[opal pagoda]

i know that azure does not bill for inbound

[opal pagoda]

https://www.serverhunter.com/
use this to compare vps providers easily

[twin pier]

Neither does hetzner or vultr

[atomic sequoia]

well according to the filters, the ones I was looking at are metered both ways

[atomic sequoia]

Well, I found ITLDC, which offers 1 xeon core and 1GB RAM for 4 EUR (double the money and double the specs) with unlimited bandwidth on a shared 1gbps port

with a fair use policy. if you peg the port you get the boot

[opal pagoda]

make sure it has ip that you need

ipv4 or ipv6

some just come with NAT IPV4 address which is prety much useless for anything productive

[atomic sequoia]

my ISP doesnt even support ipv6 soo..

[opal pagoda]

fair

[atomic sequoia]

Ehhhh, I might be tiptoeing the "fair use" on ITLDC.

[silent flax]

define tiny data caps ?

[atomic sequoia]

4tb that's metered on ingress and egress.

[opal pagoda]

If that is small for you you deserve to pay per gig

[twin pier]

you're one to talk

[silent flax]

i was going to say Vultr has a relatively nice 1TB for $5/mo or 2TB for $10/mo for outbound traffic (they do not count incoming traffic), but obviously that would be too low for you

[atomic sequoia]

Biblical greed.

Maybe a vps isn't even the right thing to be lookin at but what else do you look at. Go higher and they start throwing cores ram and storage at you.

[atomic sequoia]

Maybe I just skip the VPS and host from home

afaik im not.

and neither does my IP change

[tacit birch]

So I switched ISPs and now my VPN isn't working, could my ISP be blocking my VPN or do I need to reconfigure the server for the new ISP, I am using tailscale

[stuck grove]

Likely the latter

[tacit birch]

Alr

Will see what I can do in the admin panel

[ionic siren]

Anyone else here atm?

[long oxide]

Can anyone smart answer me this?

Why didn't we simply make IPv5 that would be x.x.x.x.x? That could have slightly above a trillion addresses and would be much simpler to work with (for a human) than IPv6. Even though that one has essentially (for us) Infinite addresses.

[opal pagoda]

Expectation is that general users dont touch ip address, instead use mDNS

If you are typing in v6 address in your browser you are doing it wrong

[silent flax]

the real issue with IPv6 is not the address format - it is that they thrown out many useful things (hi local private DNS server) plus the ISPs completely butchered the implementation (oh, your router gets a /56, but on the LAN side we only give out /64 and never anything bigger, and /64 can't be suvdivided, so no own router behind the ISP router)

[blazing karma]

Is that the reason why my ubiquiti reported /56 on my wan connection but only 1 LAN network has ipv6 from prefix delegation

[long oxide]

"Nah, I just need a simple NAS. Think it's time, nothing complicated, nice and easy. I'll add an app or two on my TrueNAS and call it a day."

-5 days later-

[pseudo blade]

You're about a week late for this topic 🤣

IPv6 having a large address space is an objectively good thing. The intent is that the public portion is much smaller and easy to summarise into a more compact form.
Also - IP addresses are not for humans, they are for machines. Humans can and should use DNS/mDNS.

A lot of the decisions in IPv6 were intended to be a "return to form" of sorts - everthing is publicly addressible, security's handled by firewalls, large enough IP address space that exhaustion won't happen again because migration is practically impossible (we're on year what of the migration to IPv6 again?)

The other trick is any device with a MAC address can be predictably addressed in a /64 with zero collisions

[long oxide]

That has a small prerequisite.

I need to setup reverse proxy locally and I'm nowhere near learned enough to do that 😄

I'm happy I managed to set up a DNS record for my domain so it points as a VPS for my headscale

There's lots of learning to be done, which I'm down for.

It's just, IPv4 isn't that bad and I got used to using it, so I had this random question in the middle of the night

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I get that, but there's a lot of bad habits and inefficiency that have cropped up around NAT and it's an increasingly large pain in the neck to even get an IPv4 address

Thinking about network admin in terms of IPv4 teaches you to think in public+private IPs and it's never really been that simple

[long oxide]

Yeah, the "never been that simple" part hits home. Should've just used a normal albeit longer string of numbers, bring back the good old yellow pages and call it a day 😄

[long oxide]

~~Does anyone know the answer to why is this borked?

My router has it's DNS pointed at my pihole, and it works~~

Turns out magicDNS screwed me over, all works now. I hope.

machine with the pihole is on the same tailscale network as the PC I'm trying to ping it from

[oak locust]

this would probably annoy you...there was a time and possibly still even, Verizon had entire /16s just for internal printers.

basically no desire to audit/overhaul it to private addresing

[twin pier]

No that's probably just you didn't set up multiple networks to have prefix delegation, they're talking about the ISP router not using an entire /56 and only giving you a /64 for a single network (and most consumers wouldn't have VLANs anyways)

[long oxide]

Lads, anyone knows what's up with my Nginx proxy manager and why doesn't it work?

I have set up the DNS record to point at the proxy server, which has the manager running and supposedly redirecting to the correct port that should've brought me to the webui. But I instead land on my TrueNAS webui.

Is the issue that I'm running it as a TrueNAS app and there's some fuckery going on behind the scenes? If need be, I can redeploy it on a different server.

Also, how to properly diagnose and debug such a situation? (It would be great if you could point me in a direction of some great resources that are made with newbies in mind, cuz networking is black magic)

The 100.x.x.x subnet is one I use for my tailscale network and so far it works wonders for my needs, I would love to keep it

[silent flax]

if i have to guess - TrueNAS web ui is on ports 80/443 on the IP of your nginxproxymanager, thus the manager can't bind to the ports 80/443

[long oxide]

Yeah, I fixed it by simply putting it on a different machine. I don't intend to mess with my TrueNAS

[pastel monolith]

If you get port conflicts usually OS will warn you and not start the second process trying to bind to the same port on the same interface, generally speaking watching access and/or error logs while making requests and using dig or tracert to help figure out what path the packets are taking can help sometimes if not able to see anything from logs

if running stuff in containers they can bind to whatever port within the container too though and depends on if the container port is bound to a port on the host machine if any traffic makes it to the box

generally speaking best to test locally first to eliminate things on the way to the server in question but can run into some issues with traffic locally not going through the same ingress paths with things like traefik for proxying if it's on the same machine

[long oxide]

DNS is so important, yet it's the single easiest thing to break or cause other stuff to be broken. Wtf 😄

[oak locust]

a protocol only needed because of human brains lol

[granite raptor]

heyyy people!
i am launching a YSWS in hack club - if this interests you then please RSVP!

https://draco-neon.vercel.app
thanks! :))

[long oxide]

How would you say my future plans for eventual overhaul are looking?

[opal pagoda]

You will have 3 separate ap?

Get one good one and connect it directly to managed switch and use multiple ssid

[waxen scroll]

why no spine/leaf network

[long oxide]

Because I have no idea what that is 😄

[long oxide]

I still need 2 at least, one per half the house. I live in EU and we have stone walls, terrible for WiFi

So presumably 2 good ones in a mesh, each connected to that managed switch?

[spice sundial]

dvr plz no plz

and is this for you home ? cause i know people who have and use isp provided 1 lan port and 2.4ghz for a 2 storie budling

[stuck grove]

gonna need a massive UPS to power 3 servers for 2 hours

[long oxide]

Yeah, It's my house. I'm having serious issues with wifi, it's almost unusable on the porch or in the downstairs bathroom and I'm not using the shitty ISP box either. I'm using TP-link AX3000 4-Stream Wi-Fi 6 Router

[long oxide]

Why not? I wanted to build one from some x86 board that could be PoE powered, have all my video data over there. Maybe a once per week replication push over to main NAS

[long oxide]

You know those chungus truck batteries? I happen to be in possession of a couple. I should be fine, assuming I won't set my shit on fire when making the UPS (I'm a DIY enjoyer)

[spice sundial]

OO I'm sorry, thought, you ment a DVR like the coaxial cable ones

[spice sundial]

This is my dream. Please tell me the results when done and the price, even though I can't afford it😭

[long oxide]

I hate coaxial with a passion, ngl. That shit ruined one too many episodes of SG1 back in my childhood

[long oxide]

Me enither, I'm hunting for deals, almost nothing is new 😄

[spice sundial]

O if its like thatt and Deal hunting i respect you🫡

[long oxide]

I will be mostly laying out the cable, setting up secon internet connection, router and basic stuff. Have my current NAS working. Ain't no way I can afford any proper upgrades/storage in this price hell we are in currently.

My hopes are it'll go down in about a year

Not sure how much more life there is in my current drives. The've been with me for a while, around 20k hours on each

[spice sundial]

Yo, bro same., I need it so desperately for my business and home. We are so cool, currently using Terablox 10 kilobytes up speeds😭

[opal pagoda]

Btw its cheaper to get a hybrid solar inverter and 48v lifepo4 rack battery than an off the shelf ups

Switching time is the same

[stuck grove]

that ain't a bad idea

[opal pagoda]

If your utility provides time of use schedule you can set it up to take advantage of it

Be on battery when electricity is expensive, charge it up when it is cheap

Bonus: hook up couple of solar panels to it and offset some kwh

[blazing karma]

i think my ISP didn't even setup /56 properly, first is my home's, second is my gf's

i kinda gave up on trying to make "/56" works

her /56 properly prefix delegate to two vlans

mine only works on my default subnet so far

[turbid umbra]

Hey guys trying to use headscale but I just can't login, for example I try login on windows running the following command

tailscale login --login-server <YOUR_HEADSCALE_URL>

And as you can see in the screenshot I get a windows notification to click the tailscale icon in the task bar, however when going there and pressing Login, absolutely nothing happnes I dont get a browser window or anything

And this doesnt seem to be just a windows issue because even if I try authenticating on Linux purely through the command line passing the preauthkey in the command nothing happens

Twice for some reason headscale has logged this http2: server: error reading preface from client [::1]:36902: read tcp [::1]:8080->[::1]:36902: read: connection reset by peer But I dont know if its really related

[long oxide]

I have more success using the "up" command.

So it's essentially "tailscale up --login-server=https://domain.xyz"

On Windows I use that as well no problem, my Android is a bit of a spoiled child and I had to use the auth key option.

On your host, make sure you are exposing the headscale to the ports it needs. If you are running it in a docker and have mapped different ports, make sure your reverse proxy points at the correct ports (or set it up if you don't have one)

Also double and triple check your DNS settings.

And if you were on some Tailscale network beforehand, I think you might need to use the --force-reauth (check in documentation, I'm not sure if it's exactly precise) flag

[sly compass]

Can i just rant a little? Opnsense is awesome, not feasible always unfortunately. Try to run it where i need to open ports mostly.

Mikrotik really hits home on very small network and for cheap yet some more advanced stuff than consumer routers.

Been using unifi more and more. Plus the amount of sites to manage has grown a ton. I know opnsense do have management but both mikrotik and opnsense really need to consider making cross sites management much easier!

[oak locust]

what's the issue with it an opnsense?

i've used it pretty extensively

[fervent brook]

Did i pay too much?

[ornate jungle]

For an empty box? Aboslutely. For a box containing the working product and its accessories? Not at all.

[fervent brook]

It's missing the Ethernet cable

Also could be bricked. I haven't tried to boot it

[ornate jungle]

Damn. Product is completely useless without the included ethernet cable. You can't use third party cables. It will simply burst into flames without the one it came with. /s

[native geyser]

While playing specifically League I get random ping spikes shooting my ping to 900 for like 3 seconds. is there an app that can monitor internet usage to see why these spike happen?

[ornate jungle]

If this only happens when playing LoL (and no other games), don't bother monitoring your system for issues. The common denominator is the one game you're experiencing issues with, therefore that's the culprit.

Could be their servers (possibly only during certain matches, or certain times of the day), could be routing between your ISP and their servers, or it could be poorly written game code.

[native geyser]

it started after i upgraded to windows 11. then i down graded to windows 10 cleasn install and the problem persist

[topaz patrol]

⚠️ The ethernet cable has been blocked because it contains a non-HP® chip. This printer is intended to work only with genuine HP® ethernet cables.

[native geyser]

I been play league of a long time and only now do I get this problem. is there an app i can install to assist in monitoring? ever since I upgraded to window 11 my pc took a shit and going back didnt help anything.

[ornate jungle]

I would begin by following Riot's official troubleshooting article. https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752664-Basic-Connections-Troubleshooting-Guide

Aside from manually looking at network usage in Resource Monitor (included with Windows), I'm unaware of magic software that gives you a "single pane of glass" into what might be causing ping spikes for a single game.

[opal pagoda]

is there an app that can monitor internet

wireshark PCAP

but you probably dont know what you are looking for so it wont be of use

[oak locust]

its not a secret riot doesn't have greatest of peering

so your provider and relevant path to get there can play a big role as mentioned earlier. riots website vs gameplay traffic are not the same path, and likely somehow going through aws but still lots of factors. if its league specifically you may just want to do a whole uninstall/reinstall

[native geyser]

this only started happening when i went to windows 11 and then persisted when i did a clean install of 11 and back to 10. ontop of weird lag spike my frames go below 100 when I have an I9-9900k and 2080. I used to keep a steady above 200 but windows 11 made my PC so much worse and now the problems persist. I am hoping to atleasty find a solution to the lag spike because small frame drops arent the worst.

[oak locust]

it's possible that you had some changes to some tcpip settings that were set in windows 10 and windows 11 either reverted or CHANGED. a lot of stock windows settings still don't map to ideal performance with today's faster speeds than we used to have. howerver i wouldn't expect it to just impact league

do you have any other network device be it eth nic or wifi adapter to see if it's the same problem?

could lead to stack vs, routing, vs something somehow related to the install/os itself. do you have firewall enabled? possible you n eed to fully allow league/riot/launcher, etc

going off limited info/context of course...

[native geyser]

this is more info than most people gave me. i'll look into all of these.

[kind pivot]

nah the networking team that can't open a freaking network flux it's so infuriating

2 months and it's not working
And now they want me to make a new machine, install a nginx/apache on it to test with curl

Because they are so incompetent they think that doing a netcat isn't enough

[long oxide]

Was reading this aloud and my carpet started floating. Damn networking

[kind pivot]

Lol

[long oxide]

why do I have the itch to set up self hosted search engine

I hate this rabbit hole of a hobby 😄

[arctic crater]

Huzzah, my NAS is done

(forgive the spaghetti, I did clean it up but didn't take a picture)

Finally putting this weird x86 SBC to good use. I've had the thing for like two years.

[long oxide]

Hell yeah

Soon you'll have 3 more servers, a VPS and a rather bitchy wallet 😄

[arctic crater]

So far it's just a NAS, but I'd love to ditch my alexa and run my own smart home stuff locally

[long oxide]

It always stars with "Just a nas" 🤣

[arctic crater]

I'll eventually set up pihole or adguard but I need to ditch the xfinity provided router first, they lock you out of the needed DNS settings

[long oxide]

You could set it up now and just point your PC at it directly

Or put a cheapo router in-between your ISP and the rest of your network

[arctic crater]

There's five people in the house, so like 20+ devices. Easier to just have it be network wide.

[amber urchin]

just a nas
#1404210632252854314 message

[arctic crater]

wait hang on...

There.

[zinc mortar]

if i were you i'd set adguard up first pointed at your main devices before setting it up network wide, just to make sure it works and you're not messing anything up 😅

[topaz patrol]

<@&750150305383186585>

[next oar]

hey guys extremely new to networking, i was wondering can anyone explain why one of the most common begin numbers of a ip address are 192.168.?

[frosty stone]

because that's one of the IP ranges allocated for local use

[stuck grove]

it got allocated years ago, and there’s no reason to change it

[clear igloo]

There are three ranges of private IP addresses, there are actually other reserved ranges but for private use these are the three main ones:
10.0.0.0/8 (10.0.0.0 through 10.255.255.255)
172.16.0.0/12 (172.16.0.0 through 172.31.255.255)
192.168.0.0/16 (192.168.0.0 through 192.168.255.255)
They were allocated as part of RFC1918 and are not routable over the public internet and why you use Network Address Translation (NAT) or Port Address Translation (PAT) to map multiple IP addresses to a single public IP address.

You can subnet these networks into smaller chunks, home networks typically use a /24 (255.255.255.0) and it allows for 254 hosts

[pulsar dawn]

will buying a wifi 6 thingy for inside my laptop make signal stronger for a 100mbps wifi

wifi supports wifi 6 but only does 100mpbs btw

[lean palm]

eh at 100mbps from your ISP you arent gonna see a difference if youre upgrading from wifi 5

[long oxide]

Is 100mbps the ISP limit for your entire connection to the internet or is it limited to that in the router itself?

[pulsar dawn]

its probably limited to that router, because its a shared home and the wifi is shared to like 3 homes

so with each router being 100mbps max itll keep going smooth when someone downloads something

[long oxide]

Okay, can you go to whatever device is wired to the internet via cable and run a speed test? If it's more than 100mbps, you'll benefit from either changing router settings or assuming you can't do that adding an access point that's plugged in to the router via a cable.

If the speed is at 100mbps on the cable (and it's limited to that by your internet plan and/or you can't edit router settings) you won't benefit from any upgrade outside of internet connection itself

[pulsar dawn]

sadly cant but on quest 3 which does wifi 6, gets that

the router has wifi 6 so thats the strongest signal i can get hold of

[long oxide]

Can you at least bring your laptop as close to the router as possible and do a test then? WiFi 5 real world performance is around 200~500-ish mbps, 800-ish under ideal conditions

[pulsar dawn]

ya ill do that rn

imagine the router i use is dodgy loll

i think the router out my room is very dodgy idk

[long oxide]

It's most likely your internet speed

[pulsar dawn]

lemme grab my quest 3

[long oxide]

Looks to me like you have a 50mbps internet plan. You're remarkably similar numbers to my shitty internet lol

[pulsar dawn]

nah my quest 3 showed 90mbps

ill go to router qith quest 3 to see the exact maybe

[long oxide]

Damn.

Buy a USB dongle you can return later to test, no need to fuck around with your laptop. If it works, then it might be worth it

[pulsar dawn]

yeeee

id have to get a type c to usb for that then

so my best bet is a wifi 6 usb dongle thing to grab as much as possible

[arctic crater]

I have a router that can do almost gigabit speeds if you're standing next to it, and it will speedtest almost exactly like yours (40-60mbps) on my desktop on the other side of the house despite a wifi 6 card

I can't run ethernet because I rent but I've been meaning to get a second router and set it up as a repeater

Powerline isn't much faster or more stable than wifi either

[manic cape]

I'm wanting to upgrade from my TP Link old crappy router to Ubiquiti. I'm looking at the UniFi Express 7, or getting a Cloud Gateway Max with two of the U7 mesh units.

I'm in an 1,800 sqft split level home that does not have ethernet hardwired everywhere for access points. Which of these would suit my needs better? I've had terrible experiences with mesh wifi in the past, but it was from companies that were less reliable than Ubiquiti.

[stuck grove]

cloud gateway max doesn’t support wifi7, it’s only wifi6

i would absolutely recommend you get one that works with wifi7 so you can take full advantage of the U7 mesh units

[oak locust]

yea how many clients support that yet

laptops/mobile? i understand growing into it but curious how many actually would utilize at current day

[long oxide]

Be me, ignore literally everyone's advice to set static IPs on my shit

Some higher entity decides it's time to shuffle all IPs

Spend your night fixing stuff

Realize in the morning that you forgot to set the damn static IPs on stuff

[twin pier]

use dns

also, dhcp reservations

[peak cloak]

DHCP reservations

That's where it's at

[stuck grove]

wifi 6e is super common, but the cloud gateway max also doesn’t support that

6ghz is where it’s at! very little congestion

[ripe pendant]

I have 2 different wifis, can I plug the router of the slower wifi into the router of the faster to get extra speed out of the slower router?

[oak locust]

is it slower becasue of the underlying provider, or the hardware itself? you can't cheat. but most routers are marketed in a little bit of a deceiving way, and typically related to throughput on the wifi side, not the ethernet,

[stuck grove]

what do you mean “2 different wifi’s”?

do you mean two different internet connections?

[ripe pendant]

They're fron different providers and are completely seperate

[opal pagoda]

you need a router with load balancing feature like tp link er605

you can also configure it as failover

[ornate jungle]

If you mean you have 2 different internet service providers supplying your residence with 2 different internet connections of varying speeds, no, you can't do what you describe the way you're describing it.

[ripe pendant]

They should both be gigabiy speeds

[ornate jungle]

So... are you trying to combine them to achieve 2 gigabit speeds?

[ripe pendant]

No, one router has faster speeds from where it's located so I wanna hook it up to the other router to get the higher ethernet speeds as both routers should also be gigabit

[ornate jungle]

This doesn't make sense... like, I'm confused about what your goal is here. Are you trying to improve the range / speed of WiFi connectivity in an area of your home where it is currently weak?

Please draw and upload a floorplan showing the location of both internet connections (aka modems / routers) in relation to where you have your devices. This might help us better understand.

[mental finch]

Hey guys, i bought new home and im moving there next week. I always had my pc connected through ethernet from my Xiaomi ax9000 router. But in new home in the room my pc will be located there is no ethernet port and i cant change it. So im looking for reliable pcie wi fi card that will run my full bandwith. I have 1000mb/s internet and my router has - 2,4 ghz,5ghz and gaming 5.4ghz or 5.2 if im not mistaken.

[frosty stone]

You bought a house but you can't change it??

[mental finch]

Yep too much work, in poland we use concrete etc sooooo

so they would need to make new path in concrete to that room and thats just too much

[twin pier]

Perhaps some WiFi card with an AX210, or if you have an Intel CPU then a BE200

[mental finch]

i have 9800x3d

[opal pagoda]

you can run cables very stelthy behind skirting boards, some are even made for this use

[mental finch]

In my house my wife wanted wood ones soooo no chance haha. I heard I should look for ax210 intel one. Is that true ? Like cude we4000 or cude 3000

[frosty stone]

They are wood... All skirting boards are wood

the material doesn't dictate if you can route a channel into the back of them or not

[topaz patrol]

I think they mean solid wood and not engineered wood

[frosty stone]

[mental finch]

Yep solid wood

So that’s why my only option is some wi fi adapter I heard that wi fi is actually pretty good. When I’m downloading I want full 1gbs but mostly I need low latency that’s why I heard intel ax210 is way to go ?

[ornate jungle]

Don't expect "full 1gbps" on WiFi except in ideal conditions. Latency can be hit or miss, though it has gotten a lot better. WiFi mostly depends on the laws of physics. https://www.wiisfi.com/

[topaz patrol]

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1sz9li4/invisible_bend_insensitive_bidi_fiber_is_amazing/

[frosty stone]

If you have walls you can't even run ethernet through, wifi isn't going to work very well lol

You'll get neither low latency or any decent speed

[ornate jungle]

https://wiki.batrium.com/troubleshooting/wifi

[frosty stone]

It's never too much work to install ethernet, it's always worth it

[mental finch]

It’s not that I have something like thick walls or some. It’s not plywood like in us it’s full concrete so in order to make new cable route you need to to make paths inside concrete

[frosty stone]

It's an investment into your home

[ornate jungle]

If your walls are concrete, good luck with WiFi. Especially if there's metal rebar in the walls.

[mental finch]

I mean even on my phone inside that room I have 850mbs download and 13ms ping. I’m using iPhone Air

[frosty stone]

I find it extremely unlikely that your interior walls are all concrete

[mental finch]

Concrete or bricks

That’s how we do it here

[long oxide]

That's just Europe struggles

My damn house is made out of stone. It's even worse. Thick stone blocks on the first floor

[mental finch]

Here’s test in my bedroom like 2 rooms from my router

I have 1000/100 mbs

[long oxide]

Bruh

[mental finch]

Yeah and I’m on my iPhone. That’s why buying good PCIe adapter will do. Since making new paths to make Ethernet port will cost me hella money when I can buy 30-40 bucks WiFi

[long oxide]

Here's me hovering next to my router 😭

[mental finch]

That router is ax9000 with 3 path wi fi so 5ghz 1 is gaming 4800mbs then 5ghz 2 3000 and 2.4ghz 1200mbs

[long oxide]

You could just change your external connection. Move it somewhere else, preferably on the wall where your room is

Ought to be cheap

[mental finch]

I wanted to make connections to more rooms but since my wife at the end wanted me to have my pc room in something like a basement I mean I was happy hahah. Like a child dream. Whole basement for me. Tho it’s like a 5x5m still not that bad. Since new basements are smaller then old ones( like my parents home 10x10m with multiple rooms)

I have my pc here tv sofa etc etc

[long oxide]

Don't forget a beer fridge

Very important, yes

[mental finch]

Already did pointed that haha and my parents are changing their 5y old lg fridge sooooooo haha

[rocky badge]

Omg

[mental finch]

But in every other room in the house there is Ethernet port with cat7 to them so.

[rocky badge]

I need this. I currently I have a black smf running down to my living room

[long oxide]

How about an external run?

You could magic the outdoors cat 5e cable to hug and wrap around your house, then insert it into the basement

[twin pier]

i feel like if you're gonna go outdoors you might as well do fiber for better protection

[long oxide]

Yes, approved

[mental finch]

Wanted that but that would need time and I need my internet now so good wi fi adapters are like 30-40bucks. And when I will have time I try doing something else

[long oxide]

Or, you could just use your iphone as a USB tether, have an acceptable internet now and spend your time messing with the outdoors cable

Ethernet is always better than wireless

[topaz patrol]

Wouldn’t you want g659 b3?

[rocky badge]

idk, this is what the dude in the reddit post linked

I'm currently using bog standard sm fiber right now 🤣

[long oxide]

Would you need SFP for fiber or are there direct RJ45 modules?

[topaz patrol]

Actually 7.5mm is probably fine

[rocky badge]

you need optics for fiber lol

bought it. it was $1 after the welcome deal 💀

[twin pier]

you can get media convertors like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003CFATL0

[long oxide]

That's a big oof in price

Might be actually cheaper to get an SFP switch

[topaz patrol]

10g pluggables are cheap nowadays

1g is basically free

[sinful pebble]

PC

[long oxide]

Mate, can you like take 100mbps and send them to me via post?

I'm sure it'll work 😭

[opal pagoda]

just move to datacenter walls

[feral jacinth]

can anyone tell me this isn't true? because it seems true:

(because of 2.4ghz band saturation causing connection problems, we're introducing 5ghz!)
everyone switches to 5ghz and now has the same problems with signal strength falling off hard due to interference from every router/ap/phone in the neighborhood
(because of 5ghz band saturation causing connection problems, we're introducing 6ghz!)
everyone switches to 6ghz-

[twin pier]

I wouldn't say the same for 5ghz, because it's still got significantly larger bandwidth, and the interference is still lower than 2.4 ghz

[ornate jungle]

This is true for all radio frequencies - more RF causes more noise that not all devices can deal with. That said, I'm with @twin pier here - the newer WiFi 6E algorithms and (sometimes much) shorter range of 5GHz and 6GHz networks mean there should be less interference overall. You just need to be closer to the Access Points...

[nova glacier]

the poor penetration of higher frequencies becomes quite a benefit in this context

[amber urchin]

So I set my proxmox bridge and my VM to 9000 MTU. The Windows physical machine needed 9014 in the adapter properties and something else set thru netsh. After upgrading Proxmox 8 to 9, I couldn't get any combination of jumbo packet settings to work and I just reset it back to 1500 in the driver and netsh shows 1486 now and it works (even though proxmox is still set for 9000). It's rather annoying. interfaces are dual port 25gig connectx4 lx cards.

[stuck grove]

you overpaid

[pulsar dawn]

my gf has really bad wifi in her room, she wants to be able to play cloud gaming however her wifi booster is not that great and she gets like 90 ping which suggests obviously shes only at 2.4ghz wifi which does not work at all, what do you guys recommend that she should do to be able to play a playable session of her game on cloud gaming (geforce now) her wifi is EE at 100Mbps

[opal pagoda]

run a cable to her room

cat6 preferrable but anything is fine

[pulsar dawn]

she cant do that, shes stubborn af, she still lives at her parents i even insisted a router she said no, she wants to get a usb wifi adapter to help...

would a wifi 6 usb apapter strengthen the signal when modem is wifi 6 too

[sinful pebble]

🙏😭

[arctic crater]

Can't wait to get home and find out why my brand new home server, which is on a battery backup and also configured to auto-boot upon power application, has gone offline

Eversource says there's no power outage currently but I saw someone post that a transformer in town had blown yesterday

Current theory is that power was out long enough to drain the UPS and the UPS itself didn't turn back on when the power came back

Nvm it's just comcast being a garbage ISP, like usual

[wheat dome]

My ping is like 5 ms lower with neighbor town™ wifi, even with VPN, compared to my own fiber wifi without VPN lol

is it my router, my 10+ smart lamps or VOIP home telephone connected to routers fault?

I guess the town fiber is wired different as well, since they dont have connection outage at the same time, but still

maybe I should try with ethernet cable

inb4 all my internet traffic gets routed through Swedish FBI servers

[arctic crater]

5ms latency is nothing

I don't know a ton about how ISP infrastructure works but my guess is maybe your neighbor's router is using different DNS servers that just happen to have fewer hops to whatever you're using to check your ping

Run a traceroute command to the same destination from both networks, it'll report back the nodes used and the latency for each individual hop

[twin pier]

DNS won't affect the latency at all, it doesn't affect routing

Only if you had a CDN using DNS load balancing but I think anycast is much more common these days

[arctic crater]

I used the wrong terminology then

I meant just whatever server your router is sending packets to that's routing your traffic to the final destination

[oak locust]

you COULD have subpar routing to said dns server, which would be a force multiplier potentially

i'm dns over tls to cloud flare, i've had a FEW issues with them and would quicklky move to google or quad9 but mostly cloudflare

[amber urchin]

Apparently that is what the older wattbox would do. Since mine is just my personal home stuff, I personally prefer that if the battery dies it won't send power out until I tell it to turn back on. I mean I only have maybe 5 mins of backup and it takes hours to recharge that, so it's better to wait until the storm has passed to power back up.

[twin pier]

Only for the initial DNS resolution, so it wouldn't affect ping measurements

[zinc mortar]

not entirely sure what environments you're testing this in but it's probably a mixture of different routing, routers, and wifi environments

[opal pagoda]

this could very well be due to cgnat
your traffic is sent to the ISP and then onwards meanwhile townwifi™ probably has their own ip block with bgp finding best route

[undone wyvern]

I can't get my router to port forward. I've been trying for hours now and need help.

[opal pagoda]

Are you behind cg nat?

[oak locust]

i'm finally getting fiber in a few weeks and will put starlink on a pause for awhile. the latency is NOT bad all things considered but i've forgotten how good it is with gig fiber lol

also means no more cgnat either

[opal pagoda]

Will you get ipv6 with new isp?

[oak locust]

probably but i have it all disabled on opnsense 😄

im probably going to just pay for the static

[opal pagoda]

Fair

[oblique breach]

PING 193.140.98.181 (193.140.98.181) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 193.140.98.181: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=2.01 ms
64 bytes from 193.140.98.181: icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=2.40 ms
64 bytes from 193.140.98.181: icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=1.99 ms

my new isp has stellar connection to the academic network here (this is even to another city in their network)
when on campus, remote gaming is quite enjoyable

[low pond]

That's epic lol.

Barely can even get 10-20ms to networks within the same city here

[royal gull]

Lol same, the ISP sends all traffic 8 hours away so it has to hop there and back

[low pond]

Assuming something similar happens, I mean I get it residential networks aren't meant to be optimised for this but yeah it's silly

Like yeah a friend on the same ISP just a kilometer away is somehow 25 ms away

[oblique breach]

nearly all isp's here are the same also
excerpt this :))
all other isp's send it across the country

[oblique breach]

for us the case is clear, the equipment that does internet censoring is in istanbul ...
but I would not get if an american isp was to send traffic to another city for it to come back around to the city it originated from

[royal gull]

Yeah our city seemed to of lost its aggregation router and they moved it to the next major city over

[royal gull]

My old ISP used to send all traffic across the country so I had a wicked 99ms ping lol

[oblique breach]

like depending on how big the isp is, they are most defiantly paying per mb on the traffic that they send also... very funny for them to just waste money
(if they have (or rent) a full dedicated fiber line to themselves all across the country, then ofc they don't pay for it. but most often that would not be the case )

[low pond]

Yeah, I guess they just have equipment for the PON stuff and the real switching routing just takes place somewhere far

[oblique breach]

oh yea that also, the box that the fiber lands can never do any routing sadly

[royal gull]

They typically pay for bandwitdth not total use on a leased line

[royal gull]

Its probalbly because its cheaper and more efficient to handle routing at one large major hub

[oblique breach]

to be honest probably, that how it is typically
how it its here is
up to a point you pay (for a few gigabits) for bandwidth. and then later on they also charge for the data
... seems stupid because ...

[royal gull]

I work with a few leased fibre providers, you usualy pay for a certain amount of bandwidth, but can also pay a "burst" rate for when the total badwidth exceeds what you paid for.

[low pond]

True ^ it really depends on the contract, there's many choices.

Most bigger providers do it that way

Local ISPs have their fun pricing models

[royal gull]

What local ISPs charge to resi customers is completely different

[low pond]

Yeah forgot to actually say* it's more so even regional influence by a lot
Some countries still offering capped plans over fiber even

[oak locust]

it's not magic. it's about peering honestly. your physical neighbor could be on an isp that's more optimally routed in your local area.

[low pond]

I said same ISP 😛

Same AS system even behind them

So peering isn't a question, it's basically local traffic for the ISP, doesn't need to hit any border(gp)

[oak locust]

there's gotta be some other underlying component

are they on same prefix as you? maybe their particular block (yes even within same as), could be getting better treatment, even if it's not supposed to

if it's a km away, maybe they connect through a diff head end/co and as a result go a diff lastmile, etc

i actually did see this in early fios days, some central offices were linked to last mile latency due to problems getting onto core/backbone, etc. although that's corner case

[opal pagoda]

then it is not direct connection

rather it is ruted to ISP HQ or some random IX

[royal gull]

Its almost always that the ISP has their aggreation routers in another major urban centre to simplify network design. It really doesnt matter if the packet has to travel a city over and back if you have the bandwidth anyways.

[oblique breach]

the burst is quite nice, none (like there is 3 anyways in the whole country) here offer that

business that use leased fiber also suffer :/

[oak locust]

yep yep

[royal gull]

Burst is something you only see on leased lines used for transport typically

[stone girder]

Throwing this into the networking channel,

What is star links pricing model for the uk?
I’m about to pull the trigger on their residential plan, but got no clue about their no contracts statement nor their free hardware

Anyone here has dealt with them before?

Like it doesn’t state anywhere what that rental cost will be

[opal pagoda]

there is no contract term, if you cancel you have to return the dish and maybe pay postage

[kind pivot]

It's really just as long as you pay you get the service that's it

And you can buy the hardware and sell it when you stop using starlink, that's what we did

[royal gull]

There is no cost to the customer, you just dont own the equipment

[oak locust]

that would have befen a great option when i first got it instead of having to pony up 700 bucks

but least i own it

[kind pivot]

You paid 700$??

I paid 200€ wtf

[oak locust]

i bought it in 2001, you had to wait on a list, and the hardware plus 1st service + tax (plus almost everybody needs to buy an eth bypass which is $50) so yea it was around 700 bucks

er 2021

now a days you can pick up a kit at walmart,

[kind pivot]

I bought mine in 2023, but yeah 700$ hurts a lot

[royal gull]

I normally dont care too much about owning my modem as all it needs to do is connect to my router

[opal pagoda]

you got v2 dish?

i hate that v3 dish does not include pole mount

[oak locust]

i think i have v2 yeah. but yea kinda a scam, its like unless you are going to plant that thing on the ground, you're going to have to get some extra mount, i did the one that lets you do side mount and protrude a little past the overhang of the roof.

i got an 'offer' to buy the next one for $2500 (cough) which was faster but until i hear starlink is getting gigabit speeds across the board im not doing any upgrade

[opal pagoda]

they offered you performance dish?

[oak locust]

yea but i felt like asking me to buy a $2500 dish was liek extortion

i would also have to upgrade my service. so when that comes down and service increases (they just launched like 25 more last night) i may upgrade

so far i'm capping at about 500,550mbit, etc off steam

[opal pagoda]

this is how we mounted the dish at my friends house lol, just dont look at mount too close

[oak locust]

i'm trying to orient myself heh

hey as long as you dont have massive wind issues

[oak locust]

function over fashion!

[opal pagoda]

its better mounted than the crappy official pole mount

angle is a bit off but it doesent give two shits about it

[oak locust]

ugh apparently work profile has shut me off after procrastinating my android 16 major update

i never auto update anything 😛

[opal pagoda]

yea we have the same thing with iphones, if you dont update you get enterprise wiped

[oak locust]

well, a wipe seems pretty extreme. sso redirect just doesnt work because policy violation, when i'm upgraded itll work

but i know i'm not the first to not immediatley update so it could either be due to tigheter policy or i've had it available for awhile an finally needed to do it

[opal pagoda]

wipe just removes company data and it gets restored when update is done

[oak locust]

ah ok

yea in some ways that may have happened too. its literally like having 2 phones in one

[opal pagoda]

androids have work profile and personal profile separate

iphones dont have this

[oak locust]

yea, and i have a red magic pro 10

it was a HUGE HASSLE getting it onboarded

it has a custom os over the standard one and had to adjust some debug things that made the work profile provisioning fail

my it dept was about to throw in the towel and that answer doesnt sit with me lol

[opal pagoda]

i mostly have either iphones/ipads or samsung tab active/zebra phone in my env

[oak locust]

i'm mostly a samsung boy, this was a deviation but i'm going back to my zfold 4

[junior coral]

Trying to run internet over coaxial cables, if someone would help me that would be great.

[stuck grove]

step 1, buy MOCA adapters
step 2, RTFM

[junior coral]

I have adapters splitters and some tools in my cart, apparently you need a special tool kit for coax… just wanna make sure I’m buying the right stuff

[stuck grove]

Do you have MOCA adapters, because you can't passively convert ethernet to coax

You need a tool designed to splice and terminate Coax

If you're doing that

[junior coral]

Yes I have Hitron moca adapters in my cart, they were cheaper than most. Someone said I should find cheaper though

[junior coral]

Some of my coax don’t have the ends on them

[stuck grove]

Hence the need to splice and terminate it

[junior coral]

Yes

[stuck grove]

Get something like this and you're chilling

Luckily they already stripped the ends for ya, so it's super easy to terminate

[junior coral]

Yeah and if I’m more lucky the only place I’ll be sending internet might have ends already 🤞

[earnest pike]

hey guys, I'm planning to have a patch panel for the network rack i want to build for our house, which is better, a punch down or a ethernet coupler for my ethernet patch panel? aiming for longevity and reliability

[jade cedar]

hello guys , Im new here , Is here someone who does Software defined networking, Or protocol things... ?

[native jacinth]

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[stuck grove]

largely personal preference

[stuck grove]

what even is "protocol things"

that's like saying "data things"

[opal pagoda]

i always use keystone pannels

[oak locust]

if you can go keystone go keystone for sure

[twin pier]

and btw even with keystone you'd be picking between coupler or punchdown, it's just very useful to have the panel itself be modular

[elfin hill]

hey, i’m looking to build a home lab, using switches- using for learning and CCNA prep, any advice on where i can get a couple switches? FB marketplace seems a bit scarce near my area

[opal pagoda]

Just use gns3 for ccna prep, old cisco switches consume lots of power

[twin pier]

I've heard of the brocade icx 7250 from servethehome but it's also loud and uses power

[main hazel]

im probably wrong here (and not from the USofA ) but for that router ban thing, while currently maybe limited but wouldnt it be possible to just use a modem and a switch ( in passtrough or bridge config) (and if the isp supports it, wich if one does the others also have to if it werent for monopolies) ) DHCPv6/SLAC (screenshot is from my router not a switch but its just to illustrate that if your isp doe dhcpv6 or allows for SLAAC you dont need a router so)

[clear igloo]

firewall, nat/ipv4 connectivity?

[main hazel]

dont they still provide packettracer for free for students ? it was a great tool to learn back when i did it, so if its development has continued i suppse you can basicly duplicate any netork in existence on it and have it do live monitoring or simimulation whatever you want,... if not i think i still have the (windows) installer somewhere i think (ccna v5 i think it was)

[main hazel]

firewalls arent on the router list afaik 🙂 , ipv6 no need for nat , and , ipv4 yea you dont have that , but ... well i think someone somewhere can cook up a way to do a bridge to connect to usinga professional router made in the USofA to connect to the ipv4 network

[clear igloo]

So if you're using a firewall you have routing capabilites
If you want to expose everything IPv6 only to the internet, go for it

Tons of services are still IPv4 only, looking at AWS/Amazon stuff -.-

[main hazel]

how so?

if half the us switches to ipv6 only allot of stuff that is now ipv4 only will switch with it , sine no money if not so its a good catalist for ipv6 adoption

[clear igloo]

The entire US could be IPv6 enabled tomorrow, it's not money, it's laziness and lack of care

[main hazel]

now they have a reason maybe ,... if the choice is paying a monthly fee to rent a router or , see if one can make it ipv6 only ,, same as with early linux adopters, some will try and succeed 🙂 and the rest might follow if its cheaper

[clear igloo]

Some legacy stuff is also unable to be IPv6, which is stupid but is what it is

[main hazel]

yeah but if tiktok is ipv6 half of the customers wont even care what ipv they use i think 🙂

[clear igloo]

I mean you ask your average user to firewall their Windows machines properly, you might as well ask them to use Linux via SSH 🙂

basic firewalls at the edge protect stupid people, sadly

[main hazel]

hardware firewall instead of hardware router 🙂

• what firewall do they use when on 5G ? with their phone ?

[clear igloo]

That's what 99.999% of consumer devices are, firewall/router/all in one devices

[main hazel]

yeah but they cant be sold any more , meaning there is a market for modem only and firewall only devices to grow

[clear igloo]

It's more complicated than that too, a specialized android or iphone device is vastly different than a swiss cheese windows machine

[clear igloo]

It's already being dicked with and pushed out

[clear igloo]

A firewall is a router, you will NOT find any firewall that cannot route packets

[main hazel]

besides the point think android is defenetly not inherently more secure than windows imho, most people are just dont do wild west cowboy stuff on it wich they do do on their pc ,... download exe and go , whereas on android installing a second appstore is more hassle than allot of them are willing to do

[clear igloo]

Also, android is SLAAC only 😛

You'll have providers doing DHCPv6 only or something, I guarantee it

[main hazel]

no not at them moment but most pro ones can do bridged mode firewall wich does not do routing , the only thing that si required is that kind of router to drop support for the routing capab and you nave a device that can firewall but cant do routing

[main hazel]

android can be updated to do more things i believe 🙂

[clear igloo]

Nope, Google has said they refuse to do it

It's been asked for since day 1, they just don't care

[main hazel]

if they do it in AOSP ,... google is gonna remove it but other roms might not ...

its AI so with grain of salt but

so its possible , and dunno who said it but 1 is a magic number , if one does it , the rest cant afford to not do it over time

[clear igloo]

Plus you have netgear, Amazon, and Starlink exempt or not applicable to this whole ban thing to begin with already. The list will grow

[main hazel]

also meaning that if 1 isp allows for slaac (or 1 operator ) others might have to follow suite i think atleast if they are all in the same SS7 network or so i think(now im out of my depth here SS7 is magic dust to me)

[clear igloo]

I mean I want IPv6 wider adoption and better practices all around, but the state of the world gives me little hope of things happening to compel this stuff in the near term

and yes, you can do a lot of things but asking the average user to do a lot of things that are out of their depth is just going to run into that metaphorical brick wall. I wish people cared more about tech in general, even from a cursory perspective, we need it but yet here we are 🙁

[main hazel]

yeah ipv6 has been happening since the 2000's so :p but i tink now they ave a financial motive with this , if you can and dont really need ipv4 for everything you do , would you live like that or rent a router for the one time in a month or so you need ip4v? or would you switch to 5G mobile for that short span that you need it

somehow i also think they should have spend more time in making ipv6 human readable/memorable more, and come up with a system like UTF-8, where the first block tells you how many follow so you can actually have short ipv6 addresses and long ones and dont have to do the drop 0's ffff::::::0fff

seems that every protocol form the 70<->90ies , was tought trough and clever set up in many different aspecst and everything after is just , a pile of s*** compiled and created from consensus

[opal pagoda]

Yes and it is free. But virtualization of actual hardware beats simulation especially when doing advanced labs

[main hazel]

takes longer to set up imho 🙂

[twin pier]

Honestly SLAAC is fine though, I haven't found a reason to use DHCPv6 on my network yet

[main hazel]

oops that img was for saying , wel im ready but added it by accident to that commment

[next oar]

hey guys i have question netstat obviously shows the ip's your computer is connected to slowly, but when i type netstat -an its shows them all very quickly. im not sure what the -an means? im a massive noob to networking any answer helps thank you.

[twin pier]

What

Which OS are you using

[main hazel]

hehe i kind of like my isp 🙂

[main hazel]

-a     Displays all active TCP connections and the TCP and UDP ports on which the computer is listening.
-n     Displays active TCP connections, however, addresses and port numbers are expressed numerically and no attempt is made to determine names.
``` not sure what you mean by verryquickly ad slowly

no hostname lookups speeds things up ofc ,... so

[twin pier]

That's probably what they meant

[main hazel]

yeah but do they want it to appear slower? or what wast the desired outcome of it?

[next oar]

sorry massive noob

[main hazel]

are you on windows? (and what terminal are you using (cmd.exe , powershell(-ese), (or windows terminal , wich can do both)), anyway: ```

command /? -> lists help so

netstat /?

some other examples : ```
net /?
net user /?
chkdsk /?

[royal gull]

Building my new router 🙂

Should probably buy a shelf for the rack however

[oak locust]

building?

opnsense? 😄

[minor girder]

can someone help me, and im sorry for being an absolute noob.

let me explain my dialema

so we have fast fibre broadband, and what we noticed was certain devices in the household (say alexa or the TV using youtube) would detect the internet speed an automatically set the bitrate to maximum pretty much leaving the house with slow ass dial up....

whats the proper way to set speed limits on things withing a LAN

within*

[frosty stone]

Even at the highest bitrate possible, streaming shouldn't be using anywhere near enough to do that

[minor girder]

meh lets just say multiple devices are streaming 8k

over wifi

[frosty stone]

Why the fuck

[minor girder]

*forgive the specifics lol im rubbish at the technical aspects...

lets just say the house construction isnt conjusive to wifi signals and basically i need to limit everyone on the network to say 1gb

[frosty stone]

Run ethernet to any device that isn't mobile

Pay for faster internet

That's your solution

[minor girder]

its a council house so i cant really drill holes

[frosty stone]

Well the extra solution there is make more money to move out of council housing, and worry less about being able to watch netflix

[minor girder]

i Do have a server running which is running a plex minecraft server in the loft however it is a shitty 2core duo

[minor girder]

give me a better job and ill do it

[nova glacier]

there are little plastic trims you can run at the bottom of walls. It really sounds like it's just your wifi struggling, not your internet

[oak locust]

did discord just sht the bed for anybody else just now ? maybe 60s

[frosty stone]

No

[minor girder]

yeah so we have smart plugs and an alexa... we have an asus mesh router/extender thing

[oak locust]

so you're saying it's detecting somehow via it's benchmark mechanism that you have crappy internet, even though you dont ? could you be being throttled somewhere upstream

can you disable the auto benchmarking

[minor girder]

i think the routers are a bit outdated (early wifi 5)

[nova glacier]

if you only ethernet up one thing, do the mesh node/extender

[minor girder]

yeah we have @nova glacier but we have like 2 inch thick concrete walls

when you get downstairs your lucky if you get 1gb/s

upstairs in the main room (where i am now) i can comfortably get say 800mb/s

[nova glacier]

Like I said, there are plastic raceways for running ethernet along walls. Not sure if UK english calls them differently though, since you said council

[oak locust]

ya'll makin me jealous. i'm pending my fiber install in a week or two. starlink saved me for awhile but i'd be happy to get something 3x faster

[minor girder]

sorry bud 🙁

[minor girder]

trunking we call it i think

[nova glacier]

I mean the plastic piece itself

[oak locust]

i did a lot of low voltage cabling and installed a lot of that, the brandname is Panduit

[nova glacier]

Doing that would be a lot cheaper than upgrading wifi I imagine

[oak locust]

i nearly have twitches thinking about it thanks

[minor girder]

ok so for arguments sake... lets say a device is sucking up literally most of the available bandwidth

(alexa) << blame her

how would one stop her from eating all the food

[oak locust]

restrict her calories

[nova glacier]

most routers have network stats pages that you can use to determine this

[minor girder]

yeah i have this thing in which you speak 😉

[nova glacier]

many will also have priority settings/QoS of varying bugginess. If you're just hitting physical limits of signal strength in an area, this won't help much. Just have to improve wifi setup or switch to ethernet in that case

[minor girder]

can i PM you

[nova glacier]

I'd prefer things stay here so if I make a mistake it can be called out, but sure

[minor girder]

pmd.

nothing personal i dont want you guys to see my IP adresses and stuff lol

god forbid my internet history lol

watching stones errod live on youtube 😎

[nova glacier]

That is just your ISP router. It appears to be wifi 6e so it might actually be better than your wifi 5 asus APs. Though I wouldn't know if its location is ideal

[minor girder]

yeah the concrete deminishes the wifi strength from like full 5bars to 2 downstrairs

thats why i need to limit devices a bit...

so the main isp router picks up all the devices (smart plugs etc) however i dont actually get settings to say, hey 192.168.1.467 have just this amount of internet

[nova glacier]

Asus does have a QoS feature for adjusting priorities based on content type. It will allow a device to use all the bandwidth if it's alone, but if another device is doing something more prioritized it will get reduced

I'd still recommend just upgrading your wifi setup and try to get as much on ethernet as possible. Having issues when a single device is running a video stream means you have extremely low bandwidth available

[minor girder]

*pmd picture of the wifi

[nova glacier]

Upgrading to 6GHz (Wifi 6e or Wifi 7 tri-band) provides a ton of bandwidth

[minor girder]

yeah its pretty much kbs but if i know how to sort it for now that will suffice, i cant afford wire right now lol

im skint

[minor girder]

i dunno if the devices are 6ghz compatiable,

also i do appreciate your time and effort ive been struggling with this for a while

and im sorry but i know fk all about this stuff

[nova glacier]

the router would need to be Asus to use theirs unfortunately. A lot of QoS stuff is partially proprietary, so it's brand-locked. Your ISP router might be able to use standardized QoS, but not guarantee the asus routers would respect that for wifi prioritization

[minor girder]

hmmmm given the devices are connected to asus, that page i pmd you it should be in there let me browse (first time ive been here)

could it be called anything other than Qos

[nova glacier]

sorry, terminology issue here. Your Asus devices are Access Points (APs) rather than routers. They can be routers too, but currently that's your ISP device that's the router in your network

[minor girder]

do they not tell the main router what to allow

like speed or websites etc

[nova glacier]

no

[minor girder]

ah ok

so asus doesnt say to main router allow only this much bandwith

[nova glacier]

No. And tbc, this functionality it notoriously iffy. It relies to the router to correctly identify the content type which is imperfect

[minor girder]

i think my main issue is video

streaming

[nova glacier]

you could do router behind a router (i.e. double-NAT), but that comes with other complications

[oak locust]

are you sure? if you have any sort of qos profiles that would potentially impact especially with the stream issues you specifically m ention. its not always obvious as a 'bandwidth limiter'

[minor girder]

i do have a spare 2.4ghz router

[nova glacier]

hell no lol

I mean turn your Asus AP into a router

[minor girder]

ok so that would mean turning the main router into a modem correct?

then running the asus by wire to router

[nova glacier]

that would be even better than what I was referring to. If that's possible then do that, yes

[minor girder]

its possible yes... would that give me the ability to do qos

or atleast make the connection more stable

[nova glacier]

Yes QoS, but I doubt it'll make the connection itself more stable. Technically that's one less wifi network around, but without any devices connected to that one it wouldn't be causing any congestion

[minor girder]

@nova glacier i massivly appreciate your help dude, you have gone above and beyond 🙂

you deserve a raise dude

*gives @nova glacier a beer

[nova glacier]

sure about what? I've used Asus QoS like 15 years ago and it sorta worked, but the internet is an evolving landscape. The content type identifcation algorithm might not work as well these days

[minor girder]

i mean ive looked at my ISP page and no where does it mention Qos

anly the asus router has a page for it

[nova glacier]

that UI looked pretty barebones

very 2005 vibe lol

[long oxide]

I really need dns fallback. Lesson learned

[stuck grove]

people actually function without dns fallback?

it’s standard on practically everything

[minor girder]

yeah it is look....*sent pm

you literally have no control

[long oxide]

I did.

Untill I accidentally turned off everything on my rack, including my pihole.

And there's something somewhere that prevents shit from connecting without the DNS

Ugh. I fucked up

[stuck grove]

How exactly would shit connect without a DNS

[long oxide]

Magic?

[stuck grove]

It’s like trying to drive to a specific city in alabama from california with zero maps, or signs

[minor girder]

is that not done by the router

[stuck grove]

Guess what the router uses to send you to the right website, DNS

[nova glacier]

What's annoying is that technically this is possible. Any device can tag packets with QoS levels, but also any device can decide wheteher to respect those. Asus just happens to only allows the setting to be available when in router mode

[minor girder]

well they seem to have mroe knowledge of internet than youfibre does

[long oxide]

I must've misconfigured it

By default there should be a DNS fallback address

[minor girder]

i dont know crap about this dude, im no expert dont take my advice

but i tryu

[long oxide]

Turns out I had wrong boot order on my server hosting the pihole

[minor girder]

boot orders change all the time

i think i would have a brain fart if i had a multiboot system

i tried a hackintosh and wasnt quick enough for the enter key so always ended up in windoes

[long oxide]

I have only 1 system on it, ubuntu server. I have no idea why it decided to randomly put whatever interface to boot from as #1 and then bitch at me to insert a bootable drive. Ngl, I alsmost had a heartattack thinking my drive kicked the bucket

[minor girder]

lol bios malfunction

naaa.... youll get your setting bob on

[royal gull]

Thats the plan!

[oak locust]

are you in their discord?

https://giphy.com/gifs/elvira-georgia-dex-wi8Ez1mwRcKGI

be sure you plan it all out, once you're in it it can be a bit overwhelming

[royal gull]

Cant be worse than RouterOS

[oak locust]

its the real deal. i pump every packet through it except for my prox oob network

[topaz patrol]

Everything is worse than router os 😉

[oak locust]

let me know if you need any hlep

[topaz patrol]

Can't get better than a ‘Tik, mate

[stuck grove]

UDM

[twin pier]

Linux router

[main hazel]

care what you wish for , i reprogrammed a HEID cnc once , (not like operated but reprogrammed it due to malfunctioning memorybanks ,with ther chips no longer availeble anywhere for sale, stuff had to be rewritten to not depend on those memory banks anymore) dont know what year the cnc was from but it had a plaque that (translated) said : MADE in WEST GERMANY, (should give you an idea of its age) so imagine an operating system if you can call it that , german only , from before the idea op combining instructions and their values was a thing on cpu's

[royal gull]

I love my Mikrotik but I need more performance and 10gbe ports

[topaz patrol]

Sounds like you need a better Tik

I’m waiting for their new CCR3xxxs

[twin pier]

speaking of which i need to upgrade to 10 gig

this stuff is expensive though

[royal gull]

Im looking at a $500cad router at that point, or I could use one of my spare 10gbe nics in an old optiplex lol

[royal gull]

Its not too bad, the main cost for me is the SFP+ modules

[low egret]

When it comes to torrenting, is switching out the DNS as needed as people say it is?

[pseudo blade]

I've never heard anyone say that it's in any way necessary for reducing the bandwidth costs of your favourite Linux distribution or other freely available content.

For any other task... we don't help with that here.

[low egret]

I mean like:
For better speed and stability (from what I've heard)
The only use case I can see, is for isp throttling

[clear igloo]

DNS literally just tells you the address, beyond that it doesn't speed up or stabilize anything

[low egret]

I was thinking that it was just snake oil

[oak locust]

maybe should run a local cache server too 😄

[nova glacier]

The only reason you might change DNS is if your current DNS blocked any tracker domains. Afaik that's the only domain lookup that happens for torrenting. You might save some tens of milliseconds per torrent at best by switching.

[arctic crater]

Neophyte here, just wondering about TailScale best practices. TS is, for now, running on the same device as my SMB share. For remote access then all my other devices have two mounts, one for the local IP address and one for the tailscale address. What happens if I advertise the server's local IP as a route in tailscale? That should in theory let me use the same mount address both in and outside my home, but would that create unnecessary traffic through my router with the server sending packets to itself? Or will tailscale be able to communicate internally with the share?

[rain patrol]

Are there Ethernet cables that dont have the clip but instead a bump so they come loose when you pull hard?

[peak cloak]

if it's the same subnet it won't route through your router

I advertize the entire subnet on my tailscale so I can access any local device when remote

[stuck grove]

They probably exist, but there's a reason they're not common

they'd either not have great retention, or they'd be too hard to remove, or both

Also that latch is what pushes the conductors into the port, creating a good connection

without it, the connection would be less stable

[opal pagoda]

starlink ones have it like that

[stuck grove]

difference is they've modified essentially the whole connector

They're also using that rubber boot to guarantee a good connection

[opal pagoda]

reason they have it is due to waterproofing gasket

[stuck grove]

i'd also imagine those are pretty damn hard to remove

[opal pagoda]

yes and it is kinda impossible to have a clip while it is sealed

[opal pagoda]

it isnt hard

[stuck grove]

Surprising

[opal pagoda]

regular outlet kind of force

[stuck grove]

Regular 5-15 outlet, or regular RJ45 "outlet"

[opal pagoda]

regular schuko, i dont know how american outlets feel

[stuck grove]

So more stiff than the standard RJ45, but nothing obscene

though some RJ45 can be a nightmare to remove if they have a shitty latch

I've broken nails trying to remove some particularly nightmarish RJ45 connectors

[opal pagoda]

this kind are ass

[stuck grove]

yes

I much prefer this

[opal pagoda]

yep, but it hardens over time so it also ass

[stuck grove]

i love ubiquiti for just not adding a boot

[opal pagoda]

i often use a screwdriver to unlatch em, i aint damaging my fingers on this shi

[stuck grove]

ethercon is also a really nice connector

[opal pagoda]

its fine untill you have to pull it through some cables and you break it

i preffer to have this boot kinda loose so i can pull it and access the plastic clip

[stuck grove]

Just uh, don't do this

[opal pagoda]

i standardised on this

[stuck grove]

Ubiquiti latch is stronger than the adhesive keeping it to the cable

[opal pagoda]

boot is right type, can be removed if needed and it is decent quality cable

[stuck grove]

I've actually done this twice

[opal pagoda]

ubiquiti also ships their devices with shit cage nuts

[stuck grove]

Good thing i use rackstuds

ubiquiti cage nuts really do suck though

[opal pagoda]

this is why userbase of ubiquiti and rackstuds overlaps so much

[stuck grove]

What's worse, is they use two different threadings depending on the exact product

They use both m6 and #6-32

[opal pagoda]

i dont find that big deal, i use m5 for light duty stuff like patch panels, blanks and cable managers while m6 ones are for mounting switches, servers, ups

[stuck grove]

Similar enough to be confused for eachother when you're not looking at them, different enough to not be intercompatible

[frosty stone]

Ethercon should be standard for everything

[stuck grove]

eh, it's a bit bulky for most computers

it just takes up so much room

[frosty stone]

did I stutter?

Make things big again

[opal pagoda]

today was a fun day

[frosty stone]

Skill issue

[opal pagoda]

i didnt pull it, legacy shit

[frosty stone]

I didn't specify who lacks the skill

[opal pagoda]

interesting thing is that it worked fine on previous access controll system but new one didnt work

i managed to shorten it and it managed to negotiate at max supported speed on the new controller (100mbps)

[celest salmon]

Hey guys I installed gnome-core after standart debian installation , then I enabled NetworkManager.service and i have network-manager-gnome but the interface says no wifi adapter found

could you help pllzzzzzZzz

[twin pier]

This one was probably installer error though to be fair

It was the wires that broke

[stuck grove]

i don't want to imagine wiring ethercon

[opal pagoda]

it just has 8 solder points on the back?

seems suboptimal

[twin pier]

No I just realized this wasn't one of the Ethernet ones, but it has that same mechanism for release latch

[opal pagoda]

xlr?

[twin pier]

Idk it could be, its whatever tf is on the MoTeC USB to CAN

it was this https://www.milspecwiring.com/UTC-CAN-Connector-WLock_p_701.html

hopefully that's the same retention mechanism otherwise that was a tangent

[arctic crater]

Standard debian installation doesn't have drivers for your adapter prolly

[arctic crater]

Reject modernity, return to thicknet

[celest salmon]

but i am connected to a network

[celest salmon]

how do I

[celest salmon]

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1399797/activating-usb-wifi-adapter this one does something I don understand. The other post has same adapter as me but discusses compilation of it to .ko ....?

[celest salmon]

Do you have a reference so I understand what i am doing

That is kind of Educational

[elfin hill]

i have messed around on Cisco Packet tracer, however still do want a small physical lab- actually would make me learn as it’s physical and not just an app.
i’m quite new to this, so i’m looking for some guidance with switches, like how many? brand? etc. is there some sort of resources/even Yt videos you’d recommend?
apologies for the late response

[opal pagoda]

Since you want to learn for ccna having cisco switches/routers is kinda a requirement, you should be avoiding cisco smb devices (sb250,sb350) and stick with IOS or ios xe devices since cli for sb ones is not same as ios

I personally have couple of c2960x and c2960g but i have seen bunch of small 8 port c2960 100mbps switches for 20$ on ebay which are good enough for learning

[royal gull]

My lab is a Cisco 2600, 2x Cisco 3550, 2x cisco 2950, asa 5500, wireless controller, some APs and im adding a Cisco 2900 and cisco phones... However you really should pay for any of this stuff...

[opal pagoda]

I got most of it for free as it is eol ewaste from work

[royal gull]

See if you come accross it for free, no harm. But paying for lab hardware that you then have to pay for the power on, when you couldve just used GNS3 just isnt the way lol

[arctic crater]

Finally got around to setting up a bridge router and wifi speeds in my bedroom more than tripled 🥳

Finally the PC that would most heavily use my new NAS can actually use it

It's not even a good router either, just some old ac1200 TPLink I bought used for $20

that's how shit the signal was

literally I'd roll over in bed and the youtube video I was watching would stutter as the cellular connection had to take over

[opal pagoda]

yea, gns3 is a go to for labbing and for homelab something more power efficient like a mikrotik is a way to go

cisco non passive devices are loud af

[long oxide]

How bad of an idea it is to use premade parch cables cut in half and connected into a patch panel? The wire is soft core xd

[pastel monolith]

Don't worry wire doesn't know you cut its head off

Network cable crimping is actually not too bad if you have decent connectors and crimp tool just matter of lining up wires cutting flat and then shoving em all in together (cable tester helps), individual jst style connector crimping makes me want to die.

[long oxide]

Yeah, I had to do a bunch of connectors for a camera system a couple years back, way before I discovered the wonders of self hosting. My fingers were damn near bleeding after 136 RJ45s

That's honestly main reason I went with premade cables for the patch panel. The issue is, those cables are soft and don't have the single solid copper wire in them, so it worried me a bit

[pastel monolith]

Ah yeah stragglers from frayed stranded wires can be problematic but otherwise should be fine

[long oxide]

Wonderful, thanks!

[twin pier]

soft core as in stranded? I believe punch down connectors are usually designed for solid core, but I imagine practically it might not matter

[oak locust]

you ever been given a 66 block punch tool razor edge 'finger love tap' ?

or 110..

[tardy mulch]

I'm experiencing pretty decent bufferbloat (B) on my AX1800S running latest OpenWRT, not sure what to do about it honestly.

Was an issue on the whole network for a while but got our old ass fiber jack replaced and rest of the network is fine.

[opal pagoda]

best qos is increase the bandwidth

[tardy mulch]

I don't need more than 500Mbps 1ms latency. I just need that.

Or a bit closer at least

[opal pagoda]

well do you know what bufferbloat is?

it is latency on peek load, if you dont hit peek load bufferbloat does not matter

[tardy mulch]

I use steam.

Also I get high latency regardless. Web searches, message sending whatnot

[opal pagoda]

well then its due to isp

[tardy mulch]

Less on my PC than mobile

I just had a tech over

Once fiber jack was replaced, speeds otherwise were fine. Now its just my router

[thorny osprey]

is openwrt on a tp link ax23 worth it or do i stick with stock firmware

[turbid saffron]

Respectfully disagree with you here. It's nice for applications where the extra ruggedisation is useful (live events my beloved), but otherwise it's much heavier, more expensive, much larger, needs extra strain relief, isn't intercompatible with regular RJ45s (unless you're using something like NE8MXR1-B-TOP but again price).

And when I say larger, you can fit 12 D-shells in a 1RU space, you can fit iirc 48 RJ45s in the same?

[frosty stone]

WEAK

[turbid saffron]

We don't all get infinite budget and space :(

However, could I convince you on standardising on ethernet over BNC 12G 75Ohm instead?

[frosty stone]

you've missed the obvious un-seriousness here

[turbid saffron]

you think ethernet over bnc video cable was serious? oof

[clear igloo]

Look, we can all agree the superior conduit is Ethernet Over Garden Hose

[turbid saffron]

ethernet over hdmi over garden hose?

[near cradle]

am i allowed to ask for help here regarding my wifi connection and why i'm sometimes getting crazy ping spikes for a reason i cant identify? i'm not sure if it's my router, room, pc or something i didnt even take in consideration

i've been trying to figure ts out for months now and both chatgpt and claude cant help, and idk anyone irl that can help me

[hexed flare]

Are you in a densely populated area? Is your router far away?

[near cradle]

I live in a village with 677 people per square km, and my router is around 13m away

[hexed flare]

It could be interference. You should definitely run ethernet.

[pseudo blade]

Your signal's pretty marginal

You're actually connected to it on 2.4ghz on your phone

So bandsteering is likely in effect

[near cradle]

Wait i am? Where do you see that?

[pseudo blade]

Top of the screen

[near cradle]

I might be tripping but all i see is it's saying 5GHz selected any nothing else about how many GHz

I just noticed this one is not how it usually is, i was trying smth yesterday and i was stupid enough to put the router next to smth metallic

[pseudo blade]

2412Mhz

Chanel 1, 2.4Ghz

[near cradle]

Oh whoops i am tripping indeed

[pseudo blade]

Both pictures

[near cradle]

Yeah this is most likely the case, whenever i checked my wifi stuff in cmd on my pc, it was mostly on 5GHz but sometimes switched to 2.4GHz

[pseudo blade]

That is not ideal

[near cradle]

Sorry for it being in German but I found the PDF for how to set up our specific router and these are the default settings, which we have too aside from ssid and pw

Does this help? (I can translate if u need me to)

Also yeah it picks the channel automatically, it aint fixed

[pseudo blade]

If it's changing channel more frequently due to a marginal signal, the transition between networks will cause packet loss

I'm not saying that's your issue, but if the computer is stationary, I'd consider ensuring it connects to one, or the other.

[near cradle]

Btw do u mind deleting this? I'm slightly paranoid about leaking sensitive data

[pseudo blade]

It has no usable sensitive data. The IP is RFC1918, the mac... irrelevant.

The only secret it reveals is that your router is a sagemcom

[near cradle]

Hmm well I do trust you with that, do you mind either way tho? 🙏

I've heard this a few times before, what does that mean

[pseudo blade]

Router manufacturer

From my experience: a pretty shit one lol

[near cradle]

That kinda matches my issue... consistent 10ms ping with occasional individual pings of 2000+ ms

[near cradle]

Crazy 😭

Idk my dad said he looked it up a bit and bought a good one, but i dont trust his IT skills....

[near cradle]

How would I do that exactly? Is that a router config or pc config

Btw i feel like my antennas positions were also causing issues... i had stable connection for weeks, until i had to mess with my cam'd usb connection where i accidentally moved the antennas and now i cant manage to bring it into a position where i wont have crazy ping spikes

[pseudo blade]

Move it on top of your case or otherwise higher up and compare signal quality. Behind is usually going to mean your case blocks signal.

You can disable bandsteering entirely on the router, though that causes its own problems. Honestly I'd probably try to improve the antenna positioning to see if it'll stop bouncing between networks, and then quietly replace your router with something more capable. As far as what you can set on your computer... depends on the drivers. Go read the docs, look at configuration options.

[near cradle]

hmmm please ignore that wifi adapter there, i'm not actively using it anymore. i tried fixing my wifi issue with it, turns out it didnt help and my antennas are apparently way faster (they screw into my motherboard, so i cant move them)

would it help if i told you my motherboard model?

[pseudo blade]

No

[near cradle]

aight

[pseudo blade]

I don't really want to dig into the specific of the board, you can do that research armed with what I've already pointed out

[near cradle]

fair enough

appreciate your help tho

[pseudo blade]

Happy hunting

[near cradle]

thanks

[hexed flare]

Can anyone give insight with unifi networking? My switch shows up when I hit the + in site manager, but once I’ve chosen a site the switch won’t show up in the unifi devices tab. I’m trying to “adopt” it.

[main hazel]

hdmi over teslacoil

[royal gull]

dont know what ISP im picking after this contract is up. 5g/5g for $150, 100/100mb for $79, 250/200 for $89?

[arctic crater]

Are Hitron modems any good? They seem to be the biggest player behind Arris and NetGear but I've never heard of them.

[royal gull]

I have had a few Hitrons now. Every one has been solid!

[oak locust]

lol that pricing gap is insane. mine does the same thing

intentionally shtty prices until you get to gig service. they trying ot gate people into it

sure its 'less' but its more per

[amber urchin]

I think most people would opt for 500/500 if pricing made sense. Because that should be like the 79 tier and 5 gig at 150 is actually far lower than I think makes sense. Although they probably count on the fact that for most people to actually use more than a gig they'd need multiple devices going full out at the same time.

[oak locust]

yea fair

[nova glacier]

For modems, it all really just comes down to their chipset rather than brand. Intel Puma 6 is known to have issues, which many older hitron models use. The newer puma 7 is fine though

[stuck grove]

gonna get a 5 gig connection and constantly download linux ISOs on multiple hosts just to piss off my ISP

fully saturate that 5g link 24/7

[zinc mortar]

wtf are these prices

[zinc mortar]

Ahahah I did this for a month

Was purely just downloading shit for the heck of it and deleting everything after

[frosty stone]

Surely that 5/5 ISP has a lower plan for a good price that beats the other two options without being complete overkill

[royal gull]

$130 for gigabit?

[oak locust]

for sync thats not bad. even when i was on comcast 1.2gbit back in 2015, it was def not both ways, like maybe 50 up

[royal gull]

Im on cable and have 1000/250 but that contract is coming up and every time my price has been approaching over 100

[oak locust]

im used to paying $120 for starlink for awhile so im already used to it

[pulsar dawn]

god damn apple

guys whats a decent way i can share storage with my gf from my spare pc

she does not live in same home

[opal pagoda]

Tailscale

[pulsar dawn]

24/7?

[oak locust]

its basically a vpn right

basically use tailscale to give your gf access to local repo anywhere without doing icloud bloat bs

[ornate jungle]

Install something like NextCloud on your spare PC, essentially turning it into a NAS.

[oak locust]

does traffic go through some p2p network or still go 'through' a central source withi nextcloud?

[clear igloo]

Nextcloud is client server and needs port forwarding

[oak locust]

i guess it depends on how paranoid or how much control you want over the setup

nextcloud sounds like a convenient / easier solution but not the most secure

[clear igloo]

It's as secure as you want it to be 🙂

[oak locust]

the headscale/tailscale stuff is probably what i'd dig into

but more learning curve

also gotta balance the wife aggro. "here honey here is something with 10 layers of protection but here's an FAQ on how to log in" she probably not be happy

[clear igloo]

Yeah, I setup nextcloud with a duo login which enforces MFA so no local passwords or anything
If you want to be extra secure tailscale/wireguard or something VPN to access is probably better but a tad less ease of use, it's a trade off indeed

[oak locust]

i've worked within cdn/telco space awhile. i have seen how trhe sausage is made. i prefer to keep things as less centralized, even with 'good intent' folks centrally, as i can. but i understand there is indeed a biz model for it and you can lock it up fairly well

[pastel monolith]

Tailscale works well and oauth options integrate with common identity providers the service mostly there to list available connections for accounts but then is p2p VPN setup takes some knowhow with networks and might need to deal with magic DNS depending on current DNS setup but overall is convenient and not hard to use really.

[oak locust]

i think my wife wouold be ok with logging into a vpn client and then accessing but probably not a bunch of complex steps

[pastel monolith]

I use combo of tailscale and pangolin for managing access to things from outside my network (both wrappers around wireguard with auth and in case of pangolin a proxy)... You could just setup wireguard yourself too but would take a bit more doing to make it easy to use and manage.

Yea for tailscale is click client hit connect once it's configured

[oak locust]

yea im on starlink its near impossible to host even if you wanted (i dont) so vpn probably my only solution

i'm pending a fttp install any day and very anxious lol.

however i will be the first few customers on a brand new service in a brand new area, i may get some hiccups

[royal gull]

Racknerd VPS for $14cad a year, wireguard tunnel the nextcloud server to the VPS, use mobile wireguard client to only connect to VPN when off the home wifi. Boom

[oak locust]

well i already have something similar i just havent really strung it all up. i have a dedicated nordvpn endpoint in LA

which then connects to my opnsense, but i haven't set up anything past that other than poc

but i could do somet other vps if i wanted more IP distribution or something

also i can simply add certain VMBR in prox to a VM and it auto routes to the nord tunnel

[royal gull]

I luckily get a public IP on my cable internet 🙂

[opal pagoda]

you do get public ipv6 right?

[oak locust]

no, but biz class might

[royal gull]

I love that I have 10gbe in my network, just to be fed by cable internet

[oak locust]

i expect eventaually starlink will reach 1gbit but be a bit

[opal pagoda]

huh, my friend got a prefix even on residential

[oak locust]

yea same, lol . and it all started because i was upset at how hot the 1gbit copper SFP was

[opal pagoda]

its not static but dynamic one

[oak locust]

i'm still on cgnat nonsense. i could be phoenix, dallas, la over the course of a few days

and tbh i havent done a lot of research into it because i really am not interested in ext hosting

just did some vpn testing

[opal pagoda]

yea for ipv4 starlink only provides cgnat

[royal gull]

I only have a single port forwarded for my VPN. I got tired of the headache of securing every service id host

[oak locust]

ah, you know what, i know i do get a v6 address, i see it in opnsense, but i disabled that gateway 😄

i'm just waiting for that ipv8 to hit 😛

[pastel monolith]

Go from 2^128 to 2^256 and we can address every atom in the universe 😉 missed opportunity in v6

[stuck grove]

would require 128 additional bits though

[pastel monolith]

Still need nano/atomic NAT for addressing quarks

[oak locust]

you laugh but maybe that's what the future looks like. you ever seen Devs?

[pastel monolith]

no not familiar

[opal pagoda]

Obligatory

[pastel monolith]

new one to me, show looks somewhat interesting too (redditors pooping on it aside) will see if can find it, in real news https://www.reuters.com/business/us-award-2-billion-quantum-computing-firms-take-equity-stakes-wsj-reports-2026-05-21/

[oak locust]

feels like a black mirror ep

[cunning lion]

Hmm thinking something like this to replace the mediatek on my amd motherboard https://a.co/d/07FrtcFm need to find a solid card for the amd laptop as well

The card for the laptop will need to be compatible with Linux

[nova glacier]

The RZ616 uses the MT7922 and the RZ738 uses the MT7927. That TP-Link adapter also uses the MT7927. The only alternative I'm aware of is the NCM865 from Qualcomm. Broadcom does make a chipset too, but I'm not aware of it being available in M.2 or PCIe form factor.

huh, Broadcom's chipset (BCM4390) can even do 802.15.4 for Thread and Zigbee. That would be neat to have

[cunning lion]

Desktop is running windows 11 laptop is running linux both amd powered so both have garbage mediatek chips for Bluetooth/wifi so I am looking for both a pcie and nvme card

So yeah looking for recommendations for both

[nova glacier]

The single option you have is the NCM865 m.2 module (or products that integrate it) from Qualcomm. I think the only products integrating it are the MSI Herald-BE and the Gigabyte GC-WiFi7 (rev 1.0 and 2.0 only). Rev 1.1 is Mediatek and rev 1.2 is Intel.

standalone NCM865 modules come from randomly generated name companies and save no money compared to buying the pcie form factor adapter from MSI/Gigabyte which you could extract the module from for the laptop

[cunning lion]

I just happen to have that one on my list but aint partial to it lol

I juist need something better then these crappy mediatek chips I am currently stuck with

[oak locust]

just found out my fiber service being delayed not cause of them, but because the POWER company is dragging lighting up all the new telecom closets...

[cunning lion]

I just happen to throw a random one out there

[nova glacier]

I mean, if you're okay with wifi 6e then there's quite a few more options. For WiFi 7, the Qualcomm NCM865 is the single non-Mediatek chipset compatible with AMD. Intel's BE2xx is still broken on AMD and there's still no sign of an update on that afaik

[cunning lion]

6e/7 is kind of what I am looking at

[cunning lion]

Now if the one for desktop allows me to enable hotspot mode over 6ghz for my Quest 3 to connect to for VR even better

but not a requirement

I may just pick up a dedicated router for that use case

aka one I can plug into the 2.5gb ethernet port on my b550 MB

[nova glacier]

That opens up the plethora of models with Intel AX210. That m.2 module is very inexpensive. Could upgrade both desktop and laptop to the ax210 for less than it costs for one NCM865 adapter

[cunning lion]

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-802-11ax-Bluetooth-Adapter-Notebook/dp/B0B4T696W5

ok yeah $18

https://www.amazon.com/WiFi-6E-PCIe-WiFi-Card-for-PC/dp/B0B4VH4G1C

This is $44

[nova glacier]

Your desktop has an m.2 key e already. Just take out the mediatek rz616/rz717/rz738 that's in there

[cunning lion]

that would require tearing the mb apart to get at the card lol

[nova glacier]

Only some of them put it directly at the I/O, which yeah would require taking the board out. Most of them just have it accessible near the pcie slots. At most obstructed by the GPU when installed

[cunning lion]

mine is buried in the i/o

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wifi-ii/ my mb

So yeah easiest is just going to be to disable wifi in the bios and use the pci-e card

[nova glacier]

That's just going to be a few screws. ig it depends on how you value 10-15 minutes of your time and your comfort lvl with doing that vs the $26 extra on the pcie card.

[silent flax]

1 screw to release the wifi card shielding box, and most likely it can slide out without need to remove the VRM heatsink. But board must be removed from the case

[nova glacier]

I tend to assume worst case when there isn't enough info to go off of. Could very well have insufficent clearance to that heatsink

[silent flax]

i lied, 2 screws, sorry

[wooden copper]

any ideas why im unable to setup a minecraft server on my network? the local ip works, and tailscale IP, but public IPv6 does not work, even though in my router I have port 25565 firewall rule added

[kind pivot]

It's been THREE months that i've asked for some network flow being opened and they still struggle to open them

I'm so sick of it

[frosty stone]

Don't be lazy

[royal gull]

Can you even ping that machines IPv6 address?

[wooden copper]

yes

[main hazel]

dunno if this goes here or in linux but is there some documentation on how in linux network bridging works , because it seems to violate the whole meaning of network bridge ,:
can exist with only one side (single physical device \w mac) , i can still assign an ip to that mac as if its still just the system. i can also set exta ip aliasses on it ?(wtf?) , aswell as i can assing an ip to the virtual bridge (wtf even more?) and set ip aliasses on that?,... whats on the otherside of the bridge ? if 8 vms make use of the bridge , isnt it a switch , ,... but i can give the vm's a different ip than the aliasses so it seems the aliases are for the bridge side not for the vm side ?

ip's and bridges dont belong in the same schematic imho so different layer

[errant moon]

So I got a AXE11000 router and I plugged it into my ISP router (NOKIA 3.1 beacon) and it was working but both routers were giving off a signal so I put the Nokia in bridge mode now the new router is not working and had a red light and NOKIA is still giving off a signal but you can’t connect to it. How do I fix this?

[old raptor]

Working on a synology NAS for the first time, uh, isn't the estimated capacity supposed to be 30tb or something? i have 3 10tb drives

[stuck grove]

it’s running it in raid1

[old raptor]

is that a good or a bad thing, i'm moving the conversation here

ok so it's a good thing? i saw online that people compared shr to RAID 5 and said they were the same thing

i guess i'm having trouble understanding it fully

[peak cloak]

https://kb.synology.com/vi-vn/DSM/tutorial/What_is_Synology_Hybrid_RAID_SHR

[ornate jungle]

https://www.synology.com/en-global/support/RAID_calculator

[peak cloak]

It allows for redundancy so you can loose a drive

I only have two drives in mine so I mirror it

[ornate jungle]

They're similar, but not the same. https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/1778rv3/raid_5_vs_shr/

I have a Synology DS918+ and considered SHR vs RAID5 when it was first setup. I went with SHR because 1) why would I not when I've paid Synology for this privilege and 2) it's more flexible so I can replace my 2x existing 6TB drives with another 2x 18TB drives (for a total of 4x 18TB drives) if if if prices ever come down.

[old raptor]

Thank you for all the information I’ll read it when I can

I originally had 1 8TB drive in there, but I saw that fill up pretty quickly

Never messed with RAID since I didn’t really look into that too much

har har har