networking

[nova glacier]

iperf is really easy to use. You just have to open port 5201 on one side (on windows New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "iperf inbound" -Direction Inbound -Action Allow -LocalPort 5201, get ip with Get-NetIPAddress, starts with 192.168.x.x, 10.x.x.x, or 172.16.x.x-172.31.x.x), run iperf -s on that side, and finally run iperf -c <remote_ip> --bidir -t 0 on the other PC

[subtle wing]

always more the merrier, but leaning towards 8+. was banking on my fiber ISP to upgrade me to 2gb at promo price but that was a hard no lol. seems like 2.5gb is just too costly even for future proofing, prob gonna step it down to 1gb as i currently have it. my ISP provisions me for 1.4gb so itd be cool to have that overheard, but not necessary

hopefully under $150 usd

i run omada AP in my house, so i was thinking for 1GB the TP-Link TL-SG1016PE

[opal pagoda]

probably this is the only one that fits requirements

non poe is 160 and non managed chinesium 2.5g switch is about 50

[subtle wing]

that requires unifi controller right?

[opal pagoda]

prob

there is not alot of vendors that make 2.5g switch, smb is mostly 1g and enterprise mgig is usualy 10g

you can get this if you want but it is noisy

[stuck grove]

correct

[stuck grove]

wdym chinesium

[subtle wing]

yea i think ill stick with 1gb

appreciate the heads up

[opal pagoda]

chinesium

[stuck grove]

oh lol i thought you meant the flex mini 2.5

[stuck grove]

why do you need a managed switch anyways

[subtle wing]

i dont want my IoT devices snooping on my cameras, PCs, servers

[opal pagoda]

you know nothing technically prevents you from using multiple L3 networks on single L2 domain, assign iot devices a ip and mask outside your main lan and point it to a separate gateway ip 😈

[subtle wing]

hey im all about saving money here. i just figured it would be easiest cause i do need more POE ports lol

[west nimbus]

im from the uk and im wanting to know how easy is it to get a new router can i just buy one and get rid of the one i own that is from a company that rents the router and get way better speed

[opal pagoda]

tipically you would retain your old router but put it in bridge mode

then it would act as a modem

[west nimbus]

but what about the speed would that change and would i still have to pay the previous provider?

[opal pagoda]

you would offload several cpu intensive tasks like NAT to your new router so you might get some speed or stability improvement
are you on cable, adsl or fiber?

[west nimbus]

im currently just using wireless

but what if the new router is a lot faster?

[opal pagoda]

there can be a improvement on wireless performance, probably the largest one but i am asking what does your current router plug in to

[west nimbus]

it does have a fibre connection

[mild whale]

I used to have one of those modem/router combos (it's one box, but has the coax in for cable as well as all the wifi bits,) and I got a new router; I also did turn it into bridge mode, and was getting near network speed i pay for over wifi.

when they upgraded our plan, they just gave us seperate modems and routers; if that's the case, all you pretty much need to do is just swap the ISP provided router with a new one and it's done.

[west nimbus]

i was thinking about something like a tp link router

[opal pagoda]

your ISP would need to provide a dedicated ONT if you want to remove your current router

[west nimbus]

ONT?

[opal pagoda]

optical network terminal, basically a fancy media converter

[west nimbus]

yeah dunno

[twin pier]

this is evil

[full storm]

sometimes i wish i only had systems with like 64GB of ram because i really can't be arsed to sit here waiting for it to train memory on 768GB

then again most of the time spent turning on is actually the HBAs initialising so like idk but still haha

[pseudo blade]

It's easy to get what you wish

Just pop the side off your system and remove sticks in pairs until you have an amount of memory you can train faster.

You can send the memory to me for... safekeeping and or disposal.

[full storm]

[silent flax]

64GB can be still a lot on DDR5 if the board decides to retrain

[full storm]

luckily i'm on a relic aka DDR3

[lone crane]

Perfection

[opal pagoda]

pc pile

[lone crane]

The stuff off to the side i really do need to work on selling

also there are 2 more computers on top of it

finally doing home assistant and actually having so many smart sensors is so fun, did a mm wave sensor in my entrance place and now made it so the light stays on if i am in the room and turns quickly off if i am not.

xd that mmwave sensor is more "dangerous" then 5g mmwave

no clue what my sensor does tho but quick google i got 30-300GHz while 5g mmwave is just 24-40GHz

[nova glacier]

mmwave presence detection is typically an ISM band, 24GHz or 61GHZ. Other bands are available regionally, but they would need a fair bit of work to ensure compliance for a global product

[lone crane]

nice

my shit is just from china so at best 61GHz

[silent flax]

that extension reminds me of "why did AP drop out of network" problem i had yesterday and this morning. After testing cables all around that branch of the network i realized yesterday i turned off one of the power extensions next to my HTPC because i don't use that HTPC at all. Except the switch was also connected to that extension 😄

[silent flax]

also i feel sorry for that USB port of the mini PC when sometime in future you will kick that USB wifi adapter and break the USB port or the wifi adapter 😄

[lone crane]

Zigbeeeee

But yeah I was considering doing a 180 on it but like the amount of stuff I plan to stack on top of this is fun to the point I'm just gonna let it be on the front

[subtle wing]

hmmm, do i buy a beat up used TL-SG1016PE $50 or a brand new TL-SG2210P for $70

dont need all 16 ports tbh

[vivid plank]

If I have a switch going out to 1 2.5G port, there’s no reason for me to team 2 ports on my 10G nic right

[silent flax]

or use USB extension cable. That is how i put my zigbee adapter further away from mini PC

[dusty wyvern]

So the title is no basic tech support questions... what about ones that are a tad more complicated? Should i use #1027757333117415424 ?

[nova glacier]

I'd say it's okay to ask here, but #1027757333117415424 provides better continuity and keeps this channel free for regular networking discussion

[opal pagoda]

i havent decided on a coordinator yet, kinda leaning towards ethernet one and not usb

[lone crane]

Its 10$ for one

Usb stick with Zigbee 3

[coral marlin]

Anyone able to tell me which one of the open source network management tools can do the following :

Easy-ish to setup ( rip I know I know xD)
Can setup ACL's , show IP addresses of connected devices to switches / which port as well with mac addresses ( basically connect to a switch)
No - up to 10-20-30-40-50 devices free type of "open source software" ( that's not real open source software in my opinion)
Can monitor network traffic. Can filter through traffic like wireshark for specific protocols and IP's and mac addresses.

Basically a supercharged Switch Management Console but with the ability to connect to other network switches as well. Doing them one at a time / deploying changes is a pain in the arse ! Please help !

[opal pagoda]

1.What switches are you using and do they support netconf/yang
2. This is a firewall feature

[coral marlin]

1. 2960x Catalysts.
2. I would not entrust this type of things to a PaloAlto firewall no offence. we recently were forced in to an update and it broke half our network so sadly I have to pass.

In the sense that, I don't really have time to reconfigure everything an update comes and breaks half of it and renders the 14 locations I administer useless...

[opal pagoda]

Have you tried zabbix?

[coral marlin]

Has an agent. Won't work for my scope 🙁

[clear igloo]

Aside rolling DNAC which is $$$$, no

And you're not getting firewall like features on a switch unless you buy a DPU enabled switch for $20K+

[coral marlin]

Dayum. Thank you for clarifying my conundrum! 😄

[clear igloo]

Yah, management tools are pricey for the most part, you could look at Ansible though

It's got a learning curve though

[coral marlin]

My boss hates anything related to cloud or spending $ ....So I gotta manage with anything usefull I can implement.

[clear igloo]

Then Ansible it is 😄

[coral marlin]

I thought ansible was a paid software. You just blew my mind

[opal pagoda]

mtputty too

[clear igloo]

I know there is a paid version Ansible Tower, but I think Ansible itself is free
I could be wrong, been a long while since I've looked at that stuff price wise and the like

[coral marlin]

this thing is awesome ! ❤️

[opal pagoda]

https://www.lansweeper.com/
my coleuge used this tool and he always speaks highly of it, try it and if you buy it it isnt that expensive

[coral marlin]

Less then 100 assets xD no bueno .....I have 200 VM Ware Servers just to start xD

[coral marlin]

Alot of documentation to read for Ansible. thank you for all the help 😄 I'm gonna dive in and start bugging you guys here if I don't understand something rip

[atomic sequoia]

Well, I've ran into the peculiar issue of mobile carriers throttling UDP traffic.

I have an SMB share going on at my home network, and recnetly I setup wireguard on the server + my laptop. Everything has worked so far, except actually streaming media from the server (double clicked in the SMB share as if its a local file) is basically impossible. Iperf3 shows over 75% dropped packets and like 4-5mbps when sending data to the server. 80mbps when downloading from it..

AFAIK SMB loves its ACK packets, so I assume most are getting dropped. What'd be the best way around this?

jellyfin self host?

[pseudo karma]

@nova glacier it did it again...

and it capped it back at 100mbps

[nova glacier]

rip. what have you replaced so far?

[pseudo karma]

Installing newest drivers
new router from ISP
new ethernet cable (yes its cat6)
Reset network
Turned off all power saving things in the settings
FlushDNS

[nova glacier]

New cables on both sides or just PC side?

[pseudo karma]

just pc, not the one in the wall, if possible that will be my final option

[nova glacier]

Oh, do the in-wall cabling go directly to the router? I assumed it was another keystone

[coral marlin]

if the cable from ISP that comes in to your router is cat5 ( limited to 100MB / S) there's nothing you can do on your side to improve it

[pseudo karma]

no its both cat 6 in the wall

and from wall jack to pc

[coral marlin]

pics or it never happened xD

[pseudo karma]

it worked on 1gbps for over 6 years

[coral marlin]

maybe ISP messing with you and changed your speeds ?

[pseudo karma]

nope, i called them already and everything is fine on their end

also accessed router settings and it shows it can handle 1gbps

[coral marlin]

are your LAN ports in your router set to 1GB /s ?

[pseudo karma]

yes

[coral marlin]

do you have any custom settings in your router ?

[pseudo karma]

no

[coral marlin]

ok then reset it to factory

[pseudo karma]

already did that multiple times

[coral marlin]

what ISP you got though ?

[nova glacier]

This is a signal integrity issue, none of this relevant to be frank.

The only remedy is figuring out which part of the cabling is the culprit. Try swapping the keystone to a cat 6a keystone before redoing the in-wall cabling. Perhaps reterminate the in-wall cable with 6a plug too

[coral marlin]

You got direct Fibre comming in to your router or a DSL type of situation where they "claim" to give you 1gb/s ....there is no copper wire on the planet that can handle 1GB/s xD

[pseudo karma]

alright, ill check the keystone tomorrow or whenever my uncle is off work to help me, guess ill have to deal with the issue for now

[pseudo karma]

its fibre directly in the router

[nova glacier]

does the in-wall cabling go directly into the router though? No keystone on the router side?

[coral marlin]

idk why either ISP lying to you or the real "wiring" that's done . something is lying

[pseudo karma]

yes

[nova glacier]

what are you even talking about. They're have LAN-side ethernet cabling downgrade from 1Gb to 100Mb. The ISP is completely irrelevant

[pseudo karma]

so the cable int he wall has a connector on one side directly in the router and the other side of the cable is connected to a wall jack

[coral marlin]

Are you able to provide some details as to how the cabling sitation looks like in the central panel in your neighbourhood / building complex ?

[coral marlin]

I have a feeling, either the cabling inside the central panel is a mess or was not done with 1GB /s in mind

[nova glacier]

yeah that makes sense. Just start with the "quick" fixes of getting it reterminated with 6a plug on the router side and a new 6a keystone before going to the effort of running new cabling

[lone crane]

Unless it's 30 years old it was made with 1gig in mind

[coral marlin]

I still feel ISP ripping him off ..

[lone crane]

Ok more like 20

[pseudo karma]

the house was build not even 10 years ago, and the 1gbps worked for over 6 years

[nova glacier]

Neighborhood? building complex? It's an in-wall ethernet cable with a keystone on one end and directly plugged into the router on the other.

[lone crane]

Then it's the router or switch or network card or just the wall panels being shit as has been happening to me

[pseudo karma]

yea i will look tomorrow if i can look, maybe i see something in the wall and will swap it out

[lone crane]

My wall ports are kinda lose so love dropping to 100Mb

[pseudo karma]

i really do hope the wall port is the issue, its a easy fix

[nova glacier]

My bet is on the keystone too tbh, but we'll see

[pseudo karma]

so rn i have a double keystone in the wall but only 1 is connected since i only use 1 ethernet cable, i can just swap the wiring to the unused one

since the current one worked for 6 years its def a correct cat one

[nova glacier]

Yea, but a 6a keystone would have better signal characteristics. Considering it works most of the time, a better keystone should push it further into stablility away from the edge.

[pseudo karma]

fair, could be that its already a cat 6 a keystone in the wall, i have 0 clue

[nova glacier]

I doubt it, they're lke 3x the price (still cheap af though). Pretty certain no contractor would install those unless asked explicitly

[pseudo karma]

pretty sure my stepdad did it himself

[nova glacier]

I hope they're not because that would leave fewer things to fix/upgrade before the last option of replacing the cabling

[pseudo karma]

but i think the cables in the wall are just cat6, can i put a cat 6a keystone int he walljack then?

[pseudo karma]

that is true

[nova glacier]

you can put any category keystone. The signal performance just gets better as they go up in category (though not every category increases the requirements). 6a I know increased the requirements but I'd have to look it up to see what other categories get a better connector

[pseudo karma]

i see, that makes sense

@nova glacier once again thanks for the replies, i will see when my stepdad has time to check out the issue, i will just reterminate the connector that goes directly into the router and replace the wall keystone and then see if the issue persists.

[sand hill]

basically how you cat run 10 gig on a short cat5e cable its not reccomended or that reliable but its possible

linus reused the cat5e keystone pretty sure in the home cat 6 upgrade video

also 100mbps can be a sign that the cat5e is damaged or not terminated correctly so yes that could be causing the issue

I tested a cable a few days ago and it tested fine but moving it around in the wall port and the switch light only turned on at a specific point

replaced the cable and its fine now

this was a patch cable

[sand hill]

My bad your saying its fine to put in higher category keystone, that is perfectly fine

[slender dove]

I need

Help

Specifically WiFi help please god

[lone crane]

we love to see it

[nova glacier]

just tune your eyes to wifi. that'll help you see the problem

[stuck grove]

just state your problem or ask your question

[pseudo karma]

@nova glacier the wall keystone already is 6a, we gonna swap it so i can use the left one

[nova glacier]

Oh, it's got 6a stamped on it? Might as well check what the cabling is rated to as well while you're there

[pseudo karma]

Cat 6 cable

In the wall

So its the correct cables

Lets just hope the right one is a faulty keystone

[nova glacier]

Just to be absolutely sure, you are reading these ratings from the printing on the cable and letters stamped onto the keystone, right?

[pseudo karma]

Yes

[nova glacier]

Sorry, the amount of times I've had someone just repeat what another person told them and it turned out false makes me always have to make sure lol

[pseudo karma]

Thats fair

We are gonna rewire and then vheck and if that doesnt work then we buy a new keystone since i will have to order it online

[slender dove]

Better to use higher gain antennas in an area with extreme interference or would that just pick up even more noise?

Lower gain is technically better for the outdoor use but I do need to concentrate the beam to a drone of sorts

bit stuck to say the least

[stuck grove]

directional antenna would be ideal

or use an unused band

or both

if you really wanna be rude, you can use the highest broadcast power possible, and the lowest gain antenna possible

[pseudo karma]

@nova glacier redid all the connectors and keystone in the wall, it connects and is at 1gbps (1gbps forced in settings) shouldi put that to auto or leave on 1gbps

[stuck grove]

auto is generally ideal

that way if the connection degrades it’ll just switch to 100mbps instead of failing to connect at all

[mild whale]

What's the application?
Antenna gain doesn't amplify everything like a regular RF amplifier would. A higher gain antenna usually has a narrower beamwidth (kinda like a flashlight, think of a floodlight versus spotlight), and lower side lobes that can reject interference.

If the interference is in the same direction as your desired signal, then yep - you're boosting noise too. Sometimes cell phone bands and broadband noise can also hurt you with a high gain antenna.

if you tell me the application, as well as the frequency you're interested in, i can provide more insight.

[ionic fractal]

I’m setting up a fail over between two servers but my question is how bad is it to have nginx proxy manager and pi-hole on the same system with them in docker containers? Npm is only being used to relay internal traffic but using a domain instead of lan ip. Thinking of using bender instead and using pi-hole with a local only domain. im not looking for security flaws as much as im looking at compatibility problems.

[long oyster]

why is a chandelier connected to my home wifi??😭

[opal pagoda]

Copy its mac address and input it into macvendors

[long oyster]

Oh ok thanks

It says "intel corporate" should I kick it off or smth like that?

Idk much abt networking

[twin pier]

that just means it has an Intel nic

[nova glacier]

Afaik Intel doesn't make any IoT WiFi chips, so that's gonna be some desktop or laptop

[lone crane]

Intel does not even make Intel chips anymore

[pseudo blade]

Well no, they definitely do

They just don't make all of them anymore

[lone crane]

Yea I was wrong o swear they sold off the networking part a long time ago, but now a days they are just not bothering anymore and laying off more and more people

[opal pagoda]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/intel-separate-networking-unit-new-ceo-tan-overhauls-business-2025-07-25/
dont know if it went through

[lone crane]

i swear they did it many many years ago

[clear igloo]

That was other parts of the business

Optics and FPGAs I know were a couple, their infiniband alternative too (omnipath or something)

[nova glacier]

it was the cell modem business they sold off iirc to Apple in 2019

[lone crane]

aaaaa

[lone crane]

i think this was it

anyone got a clue what i might be able to use a UVP pro for now a days

it looks so nice but its so old

[full storm]

is there a bootable OS that i can use like ventoy but that also allows me to get versions of operating systems by downloading them?

cause like i love ventoy, it's amazing but also it's very annoying when i am setting up a system that can connect to the network but i need an OS or something that i don't already have cause then i have to go and install it and put it on the mf drive and it's a pain

[stuck grove]

could always kick it off and see who/what complains

best way to identify devices imo

[twin pier]

They do make some Intel branded chips that are just realtek inside. Some Intel Killer chips

[full storm]

intel inside but wrong

[opal pagoda]

pxe?

you still need to have iso somewhere

[full storm]

I was thinking that but idk I might write something to do it

[waxen light]

Hey, noob here. I have built my new pc and i had some issues with connectivity with ethernet. After some days it did not work at all and i found this. I had to pull the cable out with a lot of force and it seems like i pulled one entire pin and half of another pin out of my new Mobo (Asrock B650M Hdv/m.2). The cable was also new. How can this happen and is the port still some what usable or what is the best solution to this mess?

[full storm]

seems like it melted and got stuck, is the board in warranty?

[waxen light]

Probably yes, but idk if I can use it since the cable was probably the issue i guess

But how the f does an Ethernet cable melt?

[full storm]

yeah that's what I was thinking, what was it plugged into?

[waxen light]

on one side into my mobo and on the other side into a wall plug for ethernet

[opal pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/storm-gif-beautiful-sky-cloud-gif-3694021287105068226

it probably killed optoisolator on the mobo

[waxen light]

Any good quality cables to suggest haha?

[opal pagoda]

is router/switch on the other side alive?

[waxen light]

yes, everything else is fine

[opal pagoda]

there is some deeper issue here on L1 that new patch cable wont solve

like you drilled a hole somewhere and connected mains to utp

[waxen light]

Well, i try to get a new mobo, if not i will put it in a usb hub or smt

[opal pagoda]

i have doubts that asrock will warranty this

[full storm]

before you do that, see if they'll do the warranty, they might not but i'd try

[opal pagoda]

in any case a pcie network card is cheaper than a new motherboard

[full storm]

well yeah

or taking it to a store and asking them to solder a new eth port on it

i can't imagine they'd charge that much since it's a pretty easy fix, you could even do it yourself if yk how

[opal pagoda]

its not worth it to do microsoldering on a low end board

[waxen light]

yes, this is what i mean with "trying to get a new one"

[full storm]

well yeah tbf but some places will do it alr

[full storm]

gotcha, i thought you meant buy a new one haha

[waxen light]

oh i just found smth. i am blind: The cable did also melt at the other side of the cable, but not the port part but only the end of the cable

[full storm]

do you have PoE though the plug?

[twin pier]

Realtek Inside ®

[opal pagoda]

this is result of much higher voltage that caused insulation breakdown

such as lightning

[waxen light]

i dont understand that

[twin pier]

Damn that Ethernet cable got cooked

[full storm]

if it was lightning then other things would be messed up too

surely

[full storm]

nevermind

[opal pagoda]

usualy it is black after lightning strike so thats why i was thinking mains

[waxen light]

The other side

The port in the wall seems fine

[full storm]

check other eth cables if you have any

[opal pagoda]

what about router end?

[waxen light]

Well i live in a big house and do not have access to the router but the switch on our floor seems fine for my eye

[opal pagoda]

unplug it from the switch side and check if its melted there

[waxen light]

News: This seemed to have happened to the person living in my room before me aswell. I have his cable even in my room, both sides of the cable melted (a bit) but the plugs seem fine

[nova glacier]

Agreed. Lightning is a very rapid event that flings char everywhere from/at the port and afaik it shouldn't last long enough to start melting the fire resistant jacket.

[mild whale]

Was this a thing with a cable run inside the wall?

[waxen light]

no, the cable from the pc to a port on the wall, i have no clue about the cables in the wall

[mild whale]

humor me this, but send a nice detailed picture of the motherboard rear I/O

[waxen light]

just the lan port or the whole?

[mild whale]

whole

so, i guess real quick since i've seen a few things, those saying it's not lightning are right, usually lightning chars the port and blows out anything near the port

[waxen light]

good enough?

[mild whale]

to me, it looks more like localized heating of the cable and mechanical damage, either a bad cable or connector, or contaminates

[waxen light]

what do you mean with contaminats?

[mild whale]

i just don't imagine ethernet can carry enough current to do that

[mild whale]

foreign objects, conductive stuff, that sort of thing

[waxen light]

I am just confused because this apperently happened before with a different pc and a different (but maybe low quality) cable in the exact same way

[mild whale]

you went from wall -> switch -> PC?

[waxen light]

no, wall to pc

[mild whale]

aaaaaaaaahhhhh.

[waxen light]

there is a network switch on the floor, so switch -> wall -> pc

[mild whale]

I would probably mark that port as inop

i would show maint that cable, and explain the same thing.

[waxen light]

yea, i will ask somebody tomorrow of the group that handles that stuff but the problem until then is, that is the only port i have lol

[mild whale]

they should have a tester to verify the port isn't wired incorrectly/has some intrusion

[nova glacier]

yea that's proper fire hazard. Not a lawyer, but suing whoever installed it is probably a realistic option

[waxen light]

i hope so, we are students and the people who maintain that stuff are volunteers

[mild whale]

absolutely mark that port as inop for the time being though

[waxen light]

ha, they were prob students living here 20 years ago

[mild whale]

it could be something as silly stupid as a poor/improper termination at the jack. so figure 24AWG can do about half an amp or so in free air

not sure if ethernet is capable of doing that on it's own

it could also def have been the motherboard, too, but without verifying the jack is good i wouldn't say that.

[nova glacier]

It isn't. PoE can push ~0.3A, PoE+ ~0.6A, etc. Not exactly enough to be melting things

[mild whale]

yeah, just keep in mind that ethernet cables are usually bundled, so if enough was passing through multiple conductors it could heat up.

again, not an ethernet expert, just using prior experience lol

[waxen light]

So, if multiple pins are not connected correctly it could melt?

[mild whale]

technically even if one is loose it could cause heating due to the resistance there

[nova glacier]

imo that's not a realistic event. It requires a lot of amps to start melting things, those amps need to have come from somewhere and neither side's ethernet transformer will be pushing anything like that

[waxen light]

But why would the other side of the cable melt?

[mild whale]

yeah, i don't disagree with that, which is why im suspecting something in the wall.

if it was PoE for whatever reason, and maybe two pins were touching or something like that, whatever swiss cheese happened for the failure to happen, enough current could certainly pass to heat up a conductor; that much? idk.

[pseudo blade]

based on how that's melted I think it was actually touching something else that was hot enough to melt it.

It looks like you had a candle or something back there...

[pseudo blade]

I doubt every PoE switch and injector ever has actually followed the spec to limit current per-port, though to have that and a cable with an insulation fault like that? Yeah probably not as likely as it being something else

I reckon you could definitely melt something small like a defective, unshielded conductor with 30-50 watts

[nova glacier]

standards non-compliant devices are evil, especially as far as safety is concerned like current limiting but yeah ig that's possible

[mild whale]

small amounts of power in a tiny volume can generate enough heat to start to melt stuff.

we do calculations on the bundle, conductor, and expected power to determine which conductor is suitable for a specific load, but non compliant devices certainly make that fairly ambiguous.

it seems like PoE is supposed to stop at about 960mA/pair, which in a few ohm contact could cause some localized heating.

[waxen light]

Definetly no, on one side it was only the back of my PC with cables and the other side was a wall port, so nothing but air around

[obsidian pilot]

I love buying a passthru cat 6 crimper only for it to not properly squeeze the crimp down

[obsidian pilot]

just bought the klein tools one ):

[opal pagoda]

Buy once, cry once

[zinc fog]

Hi. I have a basic wifi router, after I got fibre. I suddenly got 192.168.100.x instead of 192.168.0.x The devices on 192.168.0.x works fine, but 192.168.100.x doesnt. Theres no wifi on the 100.x and is connected through ethernet. Any ideas?
I didnt have any problems with that router before i got fibre, the isp blames the router
also when im on the 192.168.100.x network, i portscan the gateway and nothing is open, so i cant configure it

I have a tp link BE3600

[nova glacier]

Are you connecting that ethernet device to the ONT? If it's a standalone ONT without wifi/router services, it's only intended for your BE3600's WAN port not other devices. Connect to a BE3600 LAN port instead

[astral spire]

damn they got it on the dew

[nova glacier]

must be for gaming if it needs game fuel

[opal pagoda]

ah so this is how to shut up nexuses

loudest mf in my dc

[lone crane]

is that a watercooled switch

[opal pagoda]

yes, a cisco one

[lone crane]

i wonder when we will get 25gig residential to most places

[opal pagoda]

never lmao

[lone crane]

sad

[clear igloo]

Maybe by the year 2100, at least in the USA

[waxen scroll]

True story. We got two new 9504s and I turned them on in the provisioning room and they were so much louder than our other 9504s that data center staff came running in like WTF

I was wearing ear protection because I couldn't tolerate the loudness

[opal pagoda]

and then they BS about adjacent SFP+ 10GBASET transceiver placement...

"muh cooling"

[clear igloo]

I mean to be fair, 25G SFPs average around 1.5 watts but 10BASE-T can be up to 5 watts depending on the length

[brisk ledge]

Thats when in germany half the connections average at 1gbit, for sure...

That my 250mbit connection is considered above average here is quite sad.

Especially when you STILL CAN GET under 40mbit internet. for not that much cheaper... If it would be like 7 euros, id get it. For 25? Holy f.

[opal pagoda]

on nexus its wierdly limited in a pattern while on c9500 48y4c its just number limit and position doesent matter

[waxen scroll]

Muh breakout cables

[thin blade]

If any of you have done the net+ what are the most important topics to memorize

Studying for it this year

[opal pagoda]

just passing the exam is easy by doing dumps over and over

[lone crane]

dumps?

[opal pagoda]

exam dumps

[thin blade]

What's the point if I dont learn anything 😭

[opal pagoda]

well you asked for most important topics to memorise
irl topics highly depend on your infra design, like i dont have to know how OSPF works irl but it was surely on the exam

[mild whale]

you aren't learning if you memorize anyway.

[thin blade]

Worded it badly 😭 😭

[clear igloo]

subnetting is number one for sure

[wheat inlet]

Getting there lol

[jovial spindle]

When we are living on Mars lol. Going to be a very long time

[stuck grove]

i mean 10g residential is already a thing in quite a few places

mostly major urban areas in europe

[opal pagoda]

yes but "most places" dont have fiber infra coverage yet

[jovial spindle]

Exactly

[lone crane]

come to Norway

i have seen both 89 and smn like 80% have fiber access

[opal pagoda]

good proposal

i like cold

[lone crane]

eh it was 30c way too much of the summer

[coral marlin]

Whoever recommended I try Zabbix for network monitoring .... BLESS YOUR HEART ! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[dawn trail]

I just bought a brocade icx 6610-48 for $40 on FB marketplace and now I have no idea how to set it up. I have a little experience, so not a totally noob but please help me.

[safe bobcat]

Alrighty, someone here smarter than me has got to know something about addressing abysmal speeds on a client machine using WireGuard on LAN, because this is frustrating me.

Am I missing something, because despite successfully connecting the devices to each other, the client's speed is so bad that it can't even run webpages. I have both devices giving me over 800Mbps Download & Upload, so what gives?

• Installed WireGuard on both Desktop PC (Server) and Laptop (Client)
• On PC, I've created the host and client tunnels

----- Server -----
[Interface]
PrivateKey = {SERVER Private Key}
ListenPort = 51820
Address = 10.0.0.1/24
DNS = 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1

[Peer]
PublicKey = {CLIENT Public Key}
AllowedIPs = 10.0.0.2/32

----- Client -----
[Interface]
PrivateKey = {CLIENT Private Key}
Address = 10.0.0.2/24
DNS = 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1

[Peer]
PublicKey = {SERVER Public Key}
AllowedIPs = 0.0.0.0/0
Endpoint = {SERVER Public IP}:51820

• Portforwarded 51820 on Router
• Allowed Inbound port 51820 in both Server and Client devices (just in case)
• Moved CLIENT config file to Client device to run
• Allow Network Sharing in Adapter Settings to allow WireGuard Tunnel use Ethernet from Desktop PC.

Client successfully connects to the Server, however the speeds are abysmal.
What am I missing here?

[opal pagoda]

both are windows hosts?
what are the specs of devices

[safe bobcat]

Right... forgot to mention that.
Yes, both are Windows devices.

Desktop PC

### Motherboard
GIGABYTE X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE AM5 LGA 1718, ATX, DDR5, 4x M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB4, Wi-Fi 7, 2.5GbE LAN, EZ-Latch

### CPU:
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X - Ryzen 9 9000 Series (Zen 5) 12-Core 4.4 GHz - Socket AM5 120W - Radeon Graphics Processor

### RAM:
Patriot Viper Venom RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000)

### Storage:
KingSpec XG 7000 4TB M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0x4 NVME 1.4 (7400MB/s Read - 6600MB/s Write)

### PSU:
SAMA XP 1000w ATX Power Supply - 80 Plus Platinum Gold - ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 Compliant - Fully Modular - Low Noise Intelligent ECO Silent Fan

### GPU
MSI Radeon RX 580 Armor Mk2 8GB DDR5 (Primary)
NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB (Secondary)

14" Razer Blade RZ09-0370

### Display
14-inch QHD (2560 x 1440) 16:9, 165 Hz Refresh Rate

### CPU:
AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX Processor, 8 Cores / 16 Threads, 3.3 GHz Base, 4.6 GHz Max Boost

### RAM:
16 GB DDR4-3200 MHz

### Storage:
1̶ ̶T̶B̶ ̶S̶S̶D̶ ̶(̶M̶.̶2̶ ̶N̶V̶M̶e̶ ̶P̶C̶I̶e̶ ̶3̶.̶0̶ ̶x̶4̶)̶
2 TB Samsung SSD 990 PRO (upgraded)

### GPU
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 (8 GB VRAM)

[coral marlin]

Anyone willing to allow me to pick their brain regarding and extremely specific issue ?

The issue is : Random DNS time out requests from a couple of computers on a specific location that causes a short network disconnect for the entire said location in a domain ?

This issue is present only for said location. Other locations not affected.

[nova glacier]

Try changing the MTU of the client. In the [interface] block of the config, add MTU = n. It can range from 1280-1420 on windows. It's supposed to automatically discover a good MTU, but for various reasons that can fail and it'll default to 1420 which can be problematic on some connections.

[opal pagoda]

If you use public dns then you might get rate limited

[coral marlin]

Not a public DNS. it's our internal domain DNS. We've got 4 DC's for some reason I fail to comprehend ..

On DC1 : for DNS DC2 and 4 are refferenced
On DC2 for DNS DC1 and 3 are refferenced ( etc etc ).

the network switch configs also are setup with( on each of the 14 locations ) ip helper address : DC1 and DC2.

Connection between the locations is done through a specifically programmed MPLS Router.

So we don't need to use a vpn on the locations in order to access domain related things.

[safe bobcat]

Oh, I thought I wrote it down last night, but I guess I deleted it when rewriting it...
I was going to say that I've already changed the MTU for both devices, from all the way to 1280 and 1420... nothing changes

[nova glacier]

Run an iperf server on the desktop and have it port forwarded for the laptop client to connect to it through the public IP. Maybe there's a quirk in the routing unrelated to wireguard.

[safe bobcat]

Doesn't seem to matter which MTU I change in WireGuard.

Top one is without WireGuard enabled.
Bottom one is with WireGuard enabled.

Other info to add that might help:

• I'm using Dynu for the DDNS.
• My Laptop is using wireless (despite speeds also hitting 800+ Mbps download/upload)
• Goal is to make sure that I can use a device that's outside of my house to connect to my Desktop for streaming or access.

I am aware of Tailscale and others, but that's not the point of getting WireGuard to work.

[nova glacier]

port forward the iperf server and test against your public IP instead of the LAN IP. It really shouldn't be different, but it would be make absolutely sure the packets are being handled the same as in the wireguard test.

[safe bobcat]

Looking at this, testing iperf3 against my public ip is about the same as the Wireguard connection

[nova glacier]

are you using an ISP provided router? I've heard some ISPs will throttle port forwarded connections

[safe bobcat]

No, I'm using an Eero 6E Pro

[nova glacier]

Damn. On a sidenote, 140Mbps is really poor performance for such a router considering your razer has got 6E too. This is all pointing some kind of issue with the wifi router imo.
Are you using multiple nodes? Maybe 140Mbps is able to take a shortcut vs the public IP requires round-tripping to the primary node.

[safe bobcat]

yeah, I'm using one of three nodes (counting the primary node).

[nova glacier]

Does Eero have a utility for testing and re-optimizing (node to node beamforming) the backhaul connection? It's a common feature for mesh wifi

[safe bobcat]

No it doesn't

[nova glacier]

try re-running iperf tests with -P 4. I've never needed parallel tests when running between my linux hosts but maybe the windows version can't do it with a single stream

[opal pagoda]

wireless might be an issue here

as this is half duplex media

try connecting with an cable

[nova glacier]

iperf only tests one direction at a time anyways. You have to add --bidir to make it test a full duplex connection

[opal pagoda]

doesent hurt to try

[safe bobcat]

Like this?

C:\iperf3>.\iperf3 -c x.x.x.x --bidir
Connecting to host x.x.x.x, port 5201
[  5] local 192.168.x.x port 55403 connected to x.x.x.x port 5201
[  7] local 192.168.x.x port 55404 connected to x.x.x.x port 5201
[ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5][TX-C]   0.00-1.01   sec  2.50 MBytes  20.8 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   0.00-1.01   sec  1.50 MBytes  12.5 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   1.01-2.00   sec  1.62 MBytes  13.7 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   1.01-2.00   sec  1.12 MBytes  9.50 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   2.00-3.01   sec  1.88 MBytes  15.6 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   2.00-3.01   sec  1.50 MBytes  12.5 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   3.01-4.00   sec  1.88 MBytes  15.8 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   3.01-4.00   sec  1.50 MBytes  12.7 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   4.00-5.00   sec  1.75 MBytes  14.7 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   4.00-5.00   sec  1.75 MBytes  14.7 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   5.00-6.01   sec  1.62 MBytes  13.5 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   5.00-6.01   sec  1.62 MBytes  13.5 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   6.01-7.01   sec  1.38 MBytes  11.5 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   6.01-7.01   sec  1.62 MBytes  13.6 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   7.01-8.01   sec  1.25 MBytes  10.5 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   7.01-8.01   sec  2.50 MBytes  21.1 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   8.01-9.01   sec  1.25 MBytes  10.5 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   8.01-9.01   sec  3.38 MBytes  28.4 Mbits/sec
[  5][TX-C]   9.01-10.01  sec  1.75 MBytes  14.7 Mbits/sec
[  7][RX-C]   9.01-10.01  sec  3.50 MBytes  29.4 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5][TX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  16.9 MBytes  14.1 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  5][TX-C]   0.00-10.02  sec  16.6 MBytes  13.9 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[  7][RX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  20.2 MBytes  17.0 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  7][RX-C]   0.00-10.02  sec  20.0 MBytes  16.7 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

[nova glacier]

I wasn't meaning to you have test that, but that's an expected result. Half duplex means both transmit and receive share the medium, so --bidir results in halved bandwidth

[safe bobcat]

Because the Razer Laptop doesn't have an Ethernet Port, I plugged in a USB-C Docking station, then plugged in a CAT5e cable to my switch.
IT's still giving me ~35 Mbits/sec

[nova glacier]

I searched a little and it seems you aren't the only one having poor LAN performance with Eero routers.
https://community.eero.com/t/h7hfp7n/slow-lan-speeds-between-devices-on-eero-pro-6
https://www.reddit.com/r/amazoneero/comments/xrwzy0/eero_pro_6_poor_local_network_performance/

Would you be able to test from a remote network to see if it's just an issue that occurs between two local devices?

[safe bobcat]

The closest thing I think I have is just my phone that can use Mobile data, so that it's not on the house network.
Would this suffice, or any other ideas?

I also have a Steam Deck, but...
Or, what if I just use my Phone's Hotspot on my Laptop (so that it's off my house network), and test from there?

[nova glacier]

if your cell's bandwidth is higher than ~35 Mbps, ideally much higher.

[nova glacier]

yea that should be fine. Most modern phones have good enough hotspot capabilities that the cell connection would still be the weakest link (unless you've got mmWave ig)

[safe bobcat]

Hmm... still getting the same ~35 Mbit/sec even when connected to my phone's Hotspot against my PC's Public IP

[nova glacier]

what's the performance of the cell connection?

[opal pagoda]

set mtu to 1400 tho

[safe bobcat]

Just a quick note: My laptop was just recently fully reset, so no shenanigans in the background.

I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S10.

[nova glacier]

No, I mean test the cell connection through speedtest.net or fast.com

[safe bobcat]

Yeah, I'm doing that right now.
Seems to be getting about 70 Mbps

30 Mbps Upload

through cellular alone

[nova glacier]

That's probably not sufficient to really gauge if there's an improvement

[nova glacier]

I hate suggesting factory resets, but at least one person in this thread found that that fixed their eero LAN performance though another tried that and it didn't work. Given Eero's mostly closed nature, it's pretty hard to diagnose them

[safe bobcat]

dang... so pretty much it might be my Eero's fault?

I do see that I have a new Software Update on my Eero, so I'll try to see if that update will fix anything.

[nova glacier]

If you another two computers to run iperf on, that would help rule out a local issue on either the laptop or desktop

[safe bobcat]

I'm sorry, I couldn't understand that.
If I had another two computers to run iperf (so like my Steam Deck and test against my Laptop)?

[nova glacier]

LAN performance should always be quite close the wifi link's bitrate minus some overhead (or the lowest performing link between nodes if crossing a mesh). I can get roughly 2Gbps (bidir) between my laptop on a 2.4Gbps wifi connection and my desktop on gigabit ethernet.

[nova glacier]

Ideally two completely other computers. If you've only got that steam deck, then test it against both desktop and laptop. That would identify if there's just one problem computer.

[twin pier]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/1n61r79/can_a_nanobeam_still_function_after_losing_this/

post title: " Can a Nanobeam still function after losing this much working fluid? "

[nova glacier]

the forbidden orange juice

[nova glacier]

Technically the desktop can't be ruled out as the problem without a test between the laptop and steam deck, but this still does further point towards it being an eero issue

[minor girder]

Can I pull the hard drive out of a nas and recover the data?

[peak cloak]

It depends

And how good you are with data recovery

[minor girder]

ah crap.. on what? i have terra master f4-210 the sata card gone poop so isnt powering the drives

im as good as data recovery as i am with using a chocolate tea pot to make a cuppa tea

[peak cloak]

Is it encrypted? What type of system? (ZFS?, RAID?, etc)

[minor girder]

raid i bellieve... the support man from terra master said that i needed all the drives powered on simultaniously

if i connect all the drives to the pc would it show as 1 drive?

[peak cloak]

No

You would need some sort of recovery software. Idk the fine details for it

[minor girder]

So plugging a drive into a computer wouldn't work?

I heard i can mount the volumes in Linux similar to what happened in the episode of LTT when all the data died

[opal pagoda]

Ltt paid a specialist to do it

I suggest same to you

[minor girder]

Dam it lol 😆 😂 I mean i would understand if it was millions of pounds worth of you tube videos, but all I have is a few family photos

[nova glacier]

it depends greatly. if it was mdadm (linux software raid), then you can actually just plug them in another linux machine. Other forms of software raid can also be recovered in a straightfoward manner, since they store metadata on the drives and it's trivial to get the software. Hardware raid is usually much messier and could need a specialist

[minor girder]

cool thanks guys

[dawn trail]

I just bought a brocade icx 6610-48 for $40 on FB marketplace and now I have no idea how to set it up. I have a little experience, so not a totally noob but please help me.

[opal pagoda]

Do you have a console cable?

[ionic grove]

Yeah recently a friend had the motherboard on their NAS die and they were using hardware RAID... afaik nothing survived, wasn't worth paying someone to recover it

[minor girder]

ok so, ive managed to get all 4 drives detected in windows/linux (I am unfamiliar with linux systems) how can I determine the RAID type? i set the NAS up almost 3 years ago, so i cant really remember.

all the drives seem to respond well, and apart from a sketchy SATA connection on my motherboard.. its all green 🙂

[fluid vine]

guys do you think I should buy a more expensive n nice ugreen NAS or just the cheapest like synology or other brand NAS i can find

cuz I want 2 use it 2 auto back up family media n stuf, but I also wanna mess around with some self hosting stuf like a jellyfin server n stuf like that

but im worried that ill use the self hosting stuf for a while n then get bored of it n stop using it n then think I shouldve jst got the cheapest NAS i could lol

[nova glacier]

That NAS doesn't appear to have used hardware raid and was running an openwrt based distro (i.e. linux). It will be most straightforward to investigate them in linux with the commands mdadm --examine /dev/sd* , pvscan, vgscan, and lvscan. If encrypted, you'll need to use cryptsetup to unlock the relevent partition or LV. Windows would require third-party drivers and be far more involved

[heady geyser]

Oh boy

[fervent brook]

I bought another router. I think I have a problem...

[fervent brook]

I don't think TP-Link is a very good brand. Did I pay too much?

[ornate jungle]

Considering its retail cost, $14 isn't too bad if you need a backup router or one for a vacation property. https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-AX3000-Router-Archer-AX55/dp/B09G5W9R6R?th=1

[fervent brook]

For a second I thought you said the retail cost was 14 dollars

[fervent brook]

That's the wrong one. That's the non-"Pro" with only Gb ports

[ornate jungle]

Sigh. I can't even with consumer networking companies anymore.

[fervent brook]

They're both 70 dollars. about. Pro is 74 USD

[ornate jungle]

Oh it's one of those regional things - Amazon.ca doesn't seem to have the Pro model. (Or I'm blind.)
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AX3000-Archer-AX55-Pro/dp/B0BTD7V93F/

[fervent brook]

https://www.amazon.com/Netgear-Nighthawk-6-Stream-RAX45-100NAS-Renewed/dp/B0C11YQBLT/

This is the one I have now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834558873398411335/1405453694736011345/20250814_002923.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387022787480387605/1357499485466398720/20250403_163748.jpg

Would you believe I accidentally bought a second one?

[fervent brook]

It's supposed to support 2.5Gb on at least two ports, and the ethernet cable they included is only Cat5e...I'm gonna assume it only qualifies for that speed because it's so short

[lone crane]

Cat 5e can do 10gig

I would really not wanna run it longer than a few meters but it can do it

[minor girder]

I've managed to get it mounted, I followed your terminal command along with a hell alot of goggling, been up all night.... and I have it!

Now I dumping all of the data to drives, I tell you what, that nas is a piece of something. One of the common problems with terramaster nas drives is the sata interface, they fail regularly it turns put and they don't stock replacements. Im going down a £20 desktop PC with red hat/software based raid next time. Sod that proprietary stuff

[karmic marten]

Heyo. Any ideas if Hetzner allows loadtesting a service at another hosting provider like OVH, with tools like WRK?

[pseudo blade]

"Oh but the router overheats so I had to strap an extra fan to it"
"No, no support for custom DNS"
"Port-forwarding is confusing and doesn't appear to work"
"The UI crashes on change and goes down for two minutes"
"No WPA3 support ever, go buy a new one"
"Roaming means paying for their mesh setup"
"The new one has a subscription model"
"Yes it's the 420XL 9999mbps but there's a rev2 and rev3 and rev3 takes away half the RAM and adds broadcom chips so you can't ditch the terrible firmware and go OpenWRT"

Every vendor seems to have their own bullshit

Hence why whenever I can go Mikrotik I do and now I'm finally approaching gigabit+ network speeds Mikrotik still has no home offering for I am struggling for good options

Possibly something like the banana pi offerings

[versed vault]

Hi, so i have an internet router that is pretty old and supports 2.4ghz bandwidth and i want to install a 5ghz router but my isp says that it is only available for people who have net speed over 50 or 60 mbps and i have the 20 mbps internet so they wouldn’t install it so is there a way that i can replace my router on my own i dont have much knowledge abt this

[random siren]

accesspoint or router which you can switch to repeater/accesspoint mode. though unless you want faster local bandwidth i doubt it will help make your internet feel faster

[stuck grove]

2.4ghz can supply more than 20mbps, so you wouldn't see any difference

it's honestly criminal that you only have 20mbps in this day and age

[strong remnant]

does anyone know what this is
i havent downloaded anything recently

i just got home from vacation bruh

[clear igloo]

A trojan

Either new hashes from a previous download or something changed likely

[opal pagoda]

how is this network equipment related?

[clear igloo]

It's always DNS

[opal pagoda]

true

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I think disabling the TCP/IP stack on their computer should help

[ornate jungle]

Appears to be something that Windows Defender has identified as being a Trojan malware program.

[strong remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

oh really

i got it out dw

[ornate jungle]

I mean, you asked... 🤷 glad you managed to get it sorted though.

[tight pecan]

It seems that some hardware control driver recently got marked as a trojan

It broke fan control's latest update since it used that driver iirc

[topaz patrol]

You haven’t taken my suggestion of a ccr2004??!!!

lol

[sharp yarrow]

i booked a room in my uni for studying
found an ethernet cable on the floor thats connected to the walls, im pretty sure that was ment for the small pc thats for the tv but i plugged it into my personal laptop instead lol. the speed was 1gbps
(student wifi was 300mbps)

[lone crane]

Someone does not know what 802.1x is

[pseudo blade]

I think it's a great one!
However: money

I'm sure you can appreciate my present situation

I was considering an immediate replacement for the hEX but since I've backburnered it considering how close to optimal gigabit I can get as it is

Though with my company paying for my internet, check back with me when the new multigig plans drop as I may not be able to resist buying something for the novelty of it

Multigig internet. In Australia. This was not in the prophecies.

It'll be a great laugh considering my large enterprise (5-20k computers) customers I support in region already often have slower internet in their offices than I do in Nowhere, NSW

The politicisation of high internet speeds was amongst the worst policies ever by our former govt and we still have a long way to go towards fixing that

[topaz patrol]

It has been for about 24 months (publicly)

[pseudo blade]

Not concretely

[silent flax]

FYI it is Defender claiming false positive for WinRing part of FanControl https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases/issues/3410

[lone crane]

100% due to crowdstrike

[silent flax]

people are developing really weird stuff https://github.com/bijomaru78/eccm

[atomic sequoia]

Whence I get home I finna be setting up some web services with nginx

I wanna open jellyfin to my family so they can watch dank media

[mild whale]

i kinda like that, it would be useful for industrial

[tepid hamlet]

tp link extender dont connect with eather net nbrah

[lone crane]

Why different wifi when you have what looks to be usable wifi?

@tepid hamlet

[pseudo blade]

As much as I love blaming Crowdstrike, that is obviously Defender

[tepid hamlet]

Ethernet is more stable than WiFi

My wireless wifi rn has massive packet loss

[opal pagoda]

connecting via ethernet cable to wifi extender is wifi with extra steps

[opal pagoda]

fix this first

[tepid hamlet]

How

[tepid hamlet]

Yea but it’s like really close to the router, also did this same setup earlier with AT&T and connected the extender Ethernet to my pc and it ran smooth like butter

My situation is my WiFi router is college provided

But it don’t have a Ethernet port so I gotta use something else to get stable connection

When I trouble shoot it it say the default gateway is not available

[opal pagoda]

check dhcp settings, you might not even be getting IP assigned

[pseudo blade]

It's still WiFi

You will not achieve greater stability than just using a decent wireless card in nearly all situations

[tepid hamlet]

Oopsies I set it to automatic

Doesn’t say unidentified network but still says no internet

[tepid hamlet]

Im just making assumptions with my past experiences

The other WiFi extender made it better

So I assume this would do the same

[opal pagoda]

sometimes wireless extenders do wierd dhcp fuckery
just use regular wifi card

[tepid hamlet]

This ?

[pseudo blade]

Intel AX210's are pretty good

They do have newer ones out now though for WiFi 7

[tepid hamlet]

I think so

[opal pagoda]

what motherboard do you have, you might have a slot for it already

[pseudo blade]

Just remember the golden rules of WiFi cards:

• Intel
• Only Intel
• Never not Intel

They aren't even pricy

[opal pagoda]

its just OEM's that cheap out and go with realtek or mediatek

[tepid hamlet]

yea i got one already

do i just buy antenna's

i think the wifi card might be my problem tho

my bluetooth stutters alot

cuts in an out

but still i'd like to atleast get my ethernet working before i try anything else

i didn't spend 200+ just to give up on it:(

[nova glacier]

Do you not currently have antennas plugged in? There should be two antennas connected to these two jacks if you're using the built-in WiFi on the motherboard

[tepid hamlet]

im using a router

unless u mean i NEED antennas plugged in

for it to be good

[mild whale]

me: Buys ASUS laptop.
Opens new laptop.
replaces wifi card with intel card

[mild whale]

yes

[nova glacier]

Yes, WiFi adapters do need their antennas for it to perform well.

[mild whale]

as a former RF engineer that hurt me to my soul

[nova glacier]

It doesn't help that RF finds a way because everything is an antenna if you try hard enough. This isn't the first time I've seen this happen because of that. It'll work enough to connect so people won't realize something is wrong

(okay maybe not everything everything, but y'know what I mean)

[mild whale]

actually a really huge issue in the grand scheme of things.

[ornate jungle]

Yes, you need antennas for WiFi to be good. Your motherboard would have come with antenna's in the box.

[mild whale]

we have cell phones littering everything now, pretty much

[tepid hamlet]

i got a pre made

and i got it 4 yrs ago

[ornate jungle]

Then the seller should have included the antenna's. If they didn't, you got scammed.

[tepid hamlet]

oh well bra

[stuck grove]

you can also just buy antennas anywhere

[nova glacier]

Just to confirm, you do have that pair of jacks without anything connected to them? Some OEM prebuilts might use internal antennas instead

[tepid hamlet]

yea nothing is plugged into them

how i check if they got internal antenna

[nova glacier]

If you have those ports, it's not internal

By any chance did you save the accessories box that came with the prebuilt?

[tepid hamlet]

no

its fine they only cost 6 dollars

[nova glacier]

I recommend getting a set with some leads so the antennas can be placed away from the PC case. Though depending on how close you are to your router, you might not need that

[tepid hamlet]

the router is right above my pc mounted on a wall

[nova glacier]

Oh. I mean, you might as well use an Ethernet cable at that point but that's up to you

[tepid hamlet]

nah it college wifi

its connected to the wall with no other ports

[nova glacier]

Ah

Just make sure to get a 2.4/5GHz(/6GHz if WiFi 6E/7) antenna and don't get something big. Given your distance to the router, bigger/higher gain will primarily increase noise and just make it worse

[tepid hamlet]

r these fine

[nova glacier]

Is your adapter WiFi 6E/7? It will still work on WiFi 6 (or earlier), but it will be very slightly worse than a dual-band antenna

[tepid hamlet]

uh how do i check

802.11ac

fuck it brah im just upgrading my wifi card

it comes with antenna's anyways

[stuck grove]

wifi5

[lone crane]

Defender is doing it due to Microsoft closing down harder on some of their more funky drivers fan control and open RGB and UXTU uses due to how fucked your computer can get and the amount of issues some of those drivers have

[pseudo blade]

Well it's still not Crowdstrike lol

[silent flax]

unless you want to make a 5GHz AP from it. Then never Intel

[pseudo blade]

If you want an AP, buy an actual AP

[pseudo blade]

The issue is that ArcticWolf has identified this driver in the wild being used in malware because it's trusted and vulnerable and Microsoft uses that intel to inform its malware detection

[silent flax]

( https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206469#c2 to be exact )

[lone crane]

Dam

[silent flax]

it's because of CVE https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-defender-antivirus-alert-vulnerabledriver-winnt-winring0-eb057830-d77b-41a2-9a34-015a5d203c42

https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2020-14979

[pseudo blade]

Looks like something stupid in country select to me IMO

International AP broadcast regulation compliance is a sucky mess

[silent flax]

no, the driver/HW doesn't support it. It is literally mentioned on Kernel page https://wireless.docs.kernel.org/en/latest/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi.html

AP mode on 2.4GHz (on devices driven by iwlmvm, note no 5GHz AP support due to LAR

[pseudo blade]

Guess what LAR is

[silent flax]

you can't disable it by changing country. It is disabled globally, no matter what country you select.

[pseudo blade]

I get that

It's easier to not trust the user because US law requires you not to for US products

It's very annoying when you do not live in that country

Otherwise intel has to ship a US SKU/driver for US use

Easier to just not allow it and immediately be compliant everywhere

6ghz is going to be incredibly fun considering the US is considering selling off the 6ghz band for cellular etc.

Going to make a lot of devices illegal overnight

Ah. It's actually passed

Even better...

[nova glacier]

I'm gonna be optimistic that there's some other band in the range (1.3-10.5GHz) that they're willing to reallocate before getting to U-NII bands, but it does feel like the writing is on the wall 😔

[ionic sparrow]

hi

[mild whale]

there is this: "The Cruz plan could take 200 MHz or more away from the 1,200 MHz currently allocated to Wi-Fi between 5.925 and 7.125 GHz..."

Which tells me they might not take away the entire 6GHz spectrum

so you may just end up with fewer 6GHz channels

[nova glacier]

The bill states they are looking to reclaim a minimum of 800MHz. 300MHz over two years and 500MHz more over 4 years. It doesn't actually specify the 6E spectrum, just 1.3-10.5GHz not including 3.1-3.45GHz or 7.4-8.4GHz. It does specify 100MHz of that initial 300MHz should come from 3.98-4.2GHz. It also specifies 3 bands to be investigated.

(A) between 2.7 gigahertz and 2.9 gigahertz;
(B) between 4.4 gigahertz and 4.9 gigahertz; and
(C) between 7.25 gigahertz and 7.4 gigahertz; and

There is a way that 6E could survive unscathed, but it depends on the incumbents of those bands

I imagine cell providers would much rather have the lower bands in question too

U-NII spectrum would just unfortunately be the backup plan

[grave shale]

does anybody have experience with the mikrotik cAP ax? We just moved in a new house and i am probably going all in for mikrotik, since i am studiying computer science and i think it would be a great way to learn and to experiment even more with my homelab. I will get two of those acces points and im choosing between these two routers(since they are the same price??).
RB4011iGS+RM and RB5009UG+S+IN. I am going to be putting in one of these switches also. CSS318-16G-2S+IN. I have narrowed it down to this and i hope that i did it atleast half correctly 😅 . All of these will be run outside the homelab and will be just used for the house.
TLDR: opinion on: mikrotik cAP ax?,
choosing between RB4011iGS+RM and RB5009UG+S+IN.

[lunar kernel]

What kind of connections are available to you for WAN?

[grave shale]

1g/300mbps at the moment

[lunar kernel]

Go the RB5009 to future proof any expansion your provider may offer since you should be able to get a copper module for the SFP+ cheaply.

[grave shale]

Great! thank you!

is the setup overkill? i dont think so but some of my friends do heh

[lunar kernel]

How long is a piece of string?

Is it overkill? probably. What's wrong with that?

[grave shale]

Fair point i can call it futureproofing and call it a day 🙂

[lunar kernel]

I don't know what sort of thing you're doing. Honestly my home network is overkill for me as well, but it did give me the ability to VLAN off a couple of HDMI IP bridges for my CCTV. Everyone's different and has different use cases.

Also if I remember right you can run lightweight docker containers on the RB5009 if you slap a bit of storage at it.

[grave shale]

For wifi: i am planing to have all of it under 2 ssid. Home_2.4 and home 5g. I am planning to put multiple passwords on the wifi that then puts you into multiple VLANS which are routed trough the whole network, for example guest and IOT and Home. I want to speed limit some of the vlans and i want to put all of the new devices connected to the switch or to the router directly to have acces only to the routers admin pannel and internet not the LAN. And anotherVlan just for homelab haha.

something like this

[lunar kernel]

Yeah you will want the extra power in the RB5009 if you're looking to speed limit VLANS. If you start using queues to do it this will bog the cpu down heavily as I Dont think you can fast path it.

[tepid hamlet]

Are the already installed wifi cards in my motherboard good enough

Or should I use the one I bought

[fervent brook]

What category would I need to lay about 3 meters of ethernet cable that can do 2.5Gb?

[stuck grove]

most likely

[stuck grove]

cat5e or better

3m is very short

and 2.5g is very not fast

[fervent brook]

Thanks for sharing

[fervent brook]

I'm like 1.5 meters and people say I'm tall

[stuck grove]

who is telling you that 1.5m is tall?

[fervent brook]

Probably someone who is lying

I think I'm normal height at best

[stuck grove]

far below average at 1.5m

[fervent brook]

damn

[stuck grove]

average height for a male globally is 1.71m

[fervent brook]

Just looked it up, I'm 1.75 meters

[fervent brook]

Doesn't help that Asia has so many people...

[pseudo blade]

For RB4011 vs RB5009... review the block diagrams and determine if the RB4011's architecture bothers you. RB5009 is comparatively less complicated

[pseudo blade]

Mikrotik's WiFi 6 products are... messier... to configure than their older ones. I've used products sharing architecture with the cAP AX^2 and while they definitely did the job and having Mikrotik flexibility on my AP is always nice I found them annoying to work with

Once set up they gave me no problems

[clear igloo]

Cat5e or above

[grave shale]

I will Thank you!

[grave shale]

messier? as far as i understood i could use capsman to set them up? i have no problems with the terminal just asking heh 😅

[pseudo blade]

No my issue with their WiFi 6 implementation is more that they broke their own conventions on it and unless you know exactly how to get what you want you get zero feedback and it just doesn't work

[grave shale]

oof im going to have fun figuring it out then

also i have descided to go for the RB5009, im going to order it all soon. Thanks for the help 🙂

[pseudo blade]

Have fun

[grave shale]

Thanks! wil update hehe

[random siren]

been looking at mikrotiks recently. anything specific that i should look out for?

[pseudo blade]

Oh for the most part I think they're great and I use them for my stuff

That said, the block diagrams are something you should be looking at

[grave shale]

they actually warned us about that one in school interestingly enough

[grave shale]

I actually want to see if i understand correctly. So in the hEX S its bad because you have 1/2gig split between all of the ports even though they are all gigabit. and in the 5009 its good because you have 8 ethernet ports and 10gig full duplex so if you arent using the SFP you get mirrored gigabit to all ports?

[pseudo blade]

The hEX S is a device of multiple caveats

A notable one is that the CPU's not capable of gigabit speeds unless you go full FastTrack+Path and give up on a bunch of features, and then it gets you... nearly gigabit simplex

I honestly don't think you're getting full duplex gigabit out of it anyways if you're using it to route?

[grave shale]

No clue in my apartment im running it and i have internet speeds from the isp 300/50 so its good enough heh 😅. But when i try to transfer stuff between my computers it slows down quite a bit(wired). Im still happy to have it its miles better than the ISP provided one.

[pseudo blade]

In that case you're probably not benefitting from switching when you should

Slow Path only nets you about 250mbps

[grave shale]

what am i doing wrong? just got it rescently and haven't done much to it other then the basics heh

[pseudo blade]

You're probably making two mistakes if you made a config from scratch

The first: You may have hardware offload configured for a different bridge than your "LAN" if computers are genuinely encountering bottlenecks tied to the CPU because otherwise it shouldn't be going through the CPU at all

The second: You likely forgot to enable fastpath and fasttrack

[grave shale]

hmm will check

from this i would guess i dont have fastpath enabled?

[pseudo blade]

ip settings get/set allow-fast-path

fasttrack is an action on firewall rules

Bridge hardware offload is a setting on your bridge ports and can be configured for members of exactly one bridge on the device

That covers L2/L3 reasons why traffic would run into CPU performance problems

[pseudo blade]

Admittedly, if you mean in a single subnet, fasttrack won't help you because it will only bridge, but fast path will provide signficant benefit if you can't get hardware acceleration working on the bridge

[grave shale]

great! i will do it as soon as i can 🙂

[grave shale]

yeaa i for now have only one subnet heh i am keeping it simple here 🙂

[peak cloak]

the software sucks

[pseudo blade]

Half the Discord here will cry about you mentioning them because it's neither aesthetically pleasing nor Cisco iOS

Most of their complaints are based on somewhat outdated information about their options for configuring them now

That said...

• Wave2(WiFi 6 support in general) is still as I warned before, kinda bolted on and not great to configure from scratch, use quick set (their basic configuration tool on the top of every graphical UI option) unless you're willing to experiment a lot. WiFi 7's not happening for a good while from now.
• Their scripting language is terrible, consider using their REST API for anything beyond the basics. I've used it extensively (including code generation) and know all the tricks and still hate it

If you don't write scripts that aren't just config command and keep in mind the former there's nothing like it at the price point for flexibility

Once upon a time Mikrotik had Lua scripting (not my favourite language but at least it's functional and reasonably well understood) but then they had to go ruin it and invent a shell scripting language of their own

[young gale]

Where my cyber security boys at

[lone crane]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27111796

[stuck grove]

probably busy doing cyber security

[pseudo blade]

Yeah we lock 'em up in the utility cupboards after the day's done so they don't get lost

[bitter thistle]

Hello, I have a question about ipv6 and how to disable it via my router?

I have OpenWRT installed on Router 1
I have T-Mobile 5G Home Internet for Router 2

My PC is connected via LAN to OpenWRT
My PC is connected via Wi-Fi to T-Mobile

I have IPV6 disabled in OpenWRT on all devices, but it is still assigned IPV6 to the LAN port.

What am I doing wrong?

Apparently it's a local IP issue.... nvm am stupid

"
Every device on the network has an IPv6 link-local address, it's self-assigned.

If you turn IPv6 off on the router it means that the router won't advertise a globally routable prefix to the clients, i.e. they cannot reach the global IPv6 internet. On the local network IPv6 is used by many protocols, that's normal."

[peak cloak]

Out of curiosity why are you disabling

[lone crane]

https://www.picussecurity.com/resource/blog/cve-2024-38063-remote-kernel-exploitation-via-ipv6-in-windows

old but gold

na i suspect it might just be due to security, no devices or things they do need it so why bother having it on if it only ever runs the risk of issues

[pseudo blade]

Well for one a time will come where services you use on the internet actually require it

You can also deal with remote exploitation of IPv6 issues by just... using a stateful firewall and blocking incoming requests

[topaz patrol]

Hopefully I’m 6 feet under by then

[pseudo blade]

Oh come on - it's not that bad lol

Meanwhile IPv4's not getting any better

[lone crane]

already some stuff i wanna use but cant really enable ipv6

[bitter thistle]

Idk, I just don't like it... also for whatever reason could be placebo. im pretty sure my ping is lower with ipv4

Atleast it is on Apex

[twin pier]

I think a lot of the sites I use are lower latency on ipv6 here, it's just kinda rsndom luck

[pastel monolith]

My main issue with IPv6 is just compatibility, specifically have run into issues with docker networking not working "properly" when using IPv6 (likely some things in docker images or compose configs that tie to IPv4 addresses but when IPv6 available stuff might bind to that instead of the v4 addresses... Probably other stuff but usually I'll just disable it for that reason)

Pretty sure that's mostly been an issue on Mac for whatever reason too, maybe related to Colima or rancher or something rather than docker itself but just too many networking issues not worth fixing easier to just disable it 😄

[twin pier]

fortunately everything i have in docker just runs behind reverse proxies
i think it's moreso just docker sucking than ipv6 sucking

[crisp bobcat]

il just try to ask here,
im experiencing latency spikes in games everytime i load a website, video or similar
even tho im not even using 5% of my bandwith.

is this latency spike normal?
commonly goes from 22ms-120ms

[amber urchin]

for wifi

[crisp bobcat]

running on cable

[pseudo blade]

You probably have pretty limited bandwidth then as most websites don't realy consume much

[crisp bobcat]

100mb/s down and up

[pseudo blade]

In that case: look into Weighted Fair Queueing, CAKE, FQ-CoDel

[crisp bobcat]

i really wish i knew what that ment XD im no pro when it comes to networking

[pseudo blade]

Research topics for you then

Probably CAKE

What you want to achieve - one way or another - is prioritisation of your game traffic over other traffic types

[crisp bobcat]

for some reason u talking about "weighted and queueing"
made me think of my antivirus which has webbrowser protection

i tried changed its setting from moderate to low and suddently i do not have this problem at all anymore.
Kaspersky really messes up my connection that hard?

(and yes i know alot of ppl really dislike kaspersky)

[pseudo blade]

If your problems are solved so easily, sure

[pseudo blade]

"Dislike" is really not the correct term
"Consider as a potential weapon to be used by Russia in war" is closer

[twin pier]

depends on where its coming from, you could try this test on different PCs connected via Ethernet to see if its specific to a single computer/software config

[crisp bobcat]

thanks il give this a try straight away

[pseudo blade]

The tools I mentioned earlier are some of the tools addressed on that site

It does a better job of explaining by far though lol

[crisp bobcat]

big thanks m8,
it really doesnt seem like it was bufferbloat and it actually was kaspersky's Webbrowser protection

big thanks for helping me tho peeps if i ever have similar struggles i now know more ❤️

[twin pier]

apparently the bufferbloat website is blocked. but warship was running on a 6 hour delay for some reason and didn't delete the message until now

just google "what can i do about bufferbloat" for other people reading that didn't see the link originally

[lone crane]

all links are down

[fallow tide]

When will they be back

[lone crane]

wait

is that a gif you have local?

xd

[lone crane]

yea local gifs work

[thick minnow]

Nice

[bitter thistle]

Can someone give me the K I S S explanation about PXE Booting and why it may or may not allow things like hard drive serials or HWInfo to work correctly?

That's the easy way to understand it, the other way is because I am cheating in video games and trying to bypass HWID ban. lol

[amber urchin]

This is likely a topic that would be covered by the #rules

[pastel monolith]

Never understood cheating in games, there's always the option of not playing/doing literally anything else... Like I enjoy gaming and I don't like to lose but if there's no chance I lose then there's no point in playing.

[stuck grove]

no one is going to help you avoid a HWID ban given it's against server and discord ToS

[bitter thistle]

I figured it out, its ISCI related all it does it bypass harddrive bans.

And allow you to run undetected firmware/cheat on faceit/val. thanks though guys appreciate it

[granite igloo]

Limited by CPU file decompression? Math says I should possibly get close to 285

I know I don't need it, I'm just curious at this point 😂

[twin pier]

could be partially that and also the overhead of packet headers

[granite igloo]

I never thought I would have 1 gig speeds out here in my area, let alone 2 gig fiber

Now I just need Xfinity to update their gateway to allow bridge mode or allow me to connect my router directly to their ONU. I really hate having to run my equipment in AP mode...

[lone crane]

Yea

[vast saddle]

Comcast fiber. Wow.

That’s rare

[granite igloo]

even more rare, I'm an hour from Houston, 15 minutes from the nearest small town. up until this year I've been stuck with 25mbps AT&T for astronomical prices or dealing with the spotty 5G Home cellular from Verizon @ 300mbps and horrible ping/packet loss

fiber is a breath of fresh air

[stuck grove]

Fiber is such an amazing thing, especially with it being symmetrical usually

[vast saddle]

Symmetrical speeds on fiber is so nice

Went from DOCSIS 3.1 to FTTH. Awesome upgrade from my ISP

[sly trellis]

legendary

now behold the amazing power of fiber to suck worse than our previous ISP that didn't use fiber

[amber urchin]

honestly there's times I think I'd rather have 100/100 than 400/40

[sly trellis]

this peaks in the realm of 60ms download latency and 600ms upload latency

what do you think happens when I play fortnite or cs2

skill issue granted, but...

point being fiber is not inherently different from cell towers or even sattelite internet

it has equal capability to suck

no single connection offered in public plans maxes out the bandwidth of a single cable

we're just charged the overall server cost + profit + infrastructure and marketing

this,

this is what $250 looks like

per month yes

welcome to rural pennsylvania

not even unlimited wifi data, it's either 4tb or 10tb

our tv is done through this wifi

our tv buffers a lot

[vast saddle]

My ISP. This is Ethernet tbf. Still though 3 ms latency is pretty good

[sly trellis]

these are numbers

[opal pagoda]

bad isp can make even DIA suck ass

try running the test in the morning as that is most uncongested time for residential connections

[vast saddle]

Don’t you love coax amplifiers and taps?

I was wondering where they were

Pretty confident that the HFC/DOCSIS network here isn’t N + 0 at the moment. Maybe it’s N + 1.

[tame estuary]

Over WiFi on my iPhone lol

Anything under like 50ms should be ok for gaming

[vast saddle]

Really good speeds

On Hybrid Fiber Coaxial/DOCSIS latency is 14-18 ms. On FTTH it’s 3-4 ms

I think HFC adds like 10 ms of latency

[tame estuary]

U7 pro max APs through a UDM Pro

That is through two walls if I’m connected to the AP I think I am

[vast saddle]

U7 Pro Max WiFi 7 I think

WiFi 7 is really nice. Pretty new still

[tame estuary]

Yeah but my iPhone 15 PM only supports 6E IIRC

[vast saddle]

Damn

The WiFi router I have is WiFi 6. Honestly plenty for my needs

It’s from my ISP though so it’s not the best

[tame estuary]

I’m not upgrading this year either I’m waiting for the iFold lol

Yeah I mean everything on my network is hard wired besides my phone and iPad. You definitely get the best latency and throughput over a cable

[vast saddle]

Yeah. I have my laptop plugged into Ethernet

[vast saddle]

Ethernet Speedtest

[tame estuary]

ethernet

[vast saddle]

Awesome latency. Really nice speeds too

Speeds tend to be better on Ethernet too so I’m not surprised

[tame estuary]

yeah thats fiber lol. Its low but its also the busy time of the evening

usually I average 900 Up and down

[vast saddle]

Ngl it’s hard for a fiber/PON network to be congested. If the ISP does a good job though.

[tame estuary]

honestly I do speed tests frequently enough that I know that it is higher in the middle of the day

[vast saddle]

I think the fiber network here is 10 gigabit symmetrical PON or XGS-PON

[tame estuary]

here is directly from the UDM

[vast saddle]

Ofc it’s not truly 10G since there’s overhead but I’d imagine it’s like 9.2 Gig

Still a good amount of capacity. My ISP in the past did say they could be going to NGPON2 which is pretty much 40 gigabit

[tame estuary]

honestly I thought about upgrading to 2.5GbE or 10GbE but I store my entire steam library locally on a lancache server. I dont really see the need for the higher speed for more money

[vast saddle]

Yeah

It’s hard for me to even use a gigabit let alone 10 gig

Pretty fun seeing this

[tame estuary]

I think there is 2.5GbE available in my neighborhood but its like almost an extra 100 a month, and, I dont believe its symmetrical

[vast saddle]

Saw Corning fiber on the ground

[tame estuary]

maybe one day 10GbE to the home will be affordable lol

[vast saddle]

lol

2 gigabit symmetrical here is like $150 a month

There is another fiber ISP that might come here next year that could offer 2 gigabit for $60 a month

[tame estuary]

I think 2.5 down and 50mbps up is like 180 here

Id rather keep 1000 U/D

[nova glacier]

meanwhile 1200/40 here is $130. DOCSHIT hate

[tame estuary]

considering I pretty much stay tailscaled back to my home network for Pihole at all times

[vast saddle]

Damn 1,200/40 is rough

Especially the upload.

[tame estuary]

anything less than 500 up is pretty doo doo imo

[nova glacier]

it gets even better, it's typically 20-30mbps

[vast saddle]

Although not terribly surprising given DOCSIS usually has a 10:1 split ratio

Maybe even less than that

[nova glacier]

we have zero competition here so we'll be waiting for a long time to get mid or high split

[vast saddle]

I think my area got mid split in like 2023

The area is waiting for DOCSIS 4.0 atp

DCOSIS 4.0 seems to have much improved upload speeds

[tame estuary]

I mean if I was a millionare I would just get the 2.5/50 plan and the 1000/1000 and run dual WANs into my UDM to have the best of both worlds

[vast saddle]

DOCSIS 4.0 is supposed to increase upstream spectrum a good amount. Like up to 204 MHz. Would be extended spectrum DOCSIS

[tame estuary]

honestly I really think fiber is the future

[vast saddle]

Yeah

[tame estuary]

the armored fiber I have ran at work before and its super strong.

[vast saddle]

As DOCSIS advances fiber will just be pushed closer to the customer

[tame estuary]

I wish they would just kill DOCSIS and RG6

[vast saddle]

3 GHz DOCSIS is not gonna be easy to do.

[tame estuary]

just direct fiber links to DCs

[vast saddle]

Shorten the coax run and maybe even add a mid-span booster

[nova glacier]

same. It's continued to be a more expensive and issue-prone technology than fiber. I get that it means they can avoid running new cabling, but it's a poor choice in the long-term

[vast saddle]

What node + 0 looks like lol

3 GHz DOCSIS will almost certainly require this

[tame estuary]

I mean fiber is litterally less work and maintenence long term. No copper to corrode in the ground, no boosters, no filters (except dB filters on the ends)

splicing the large utility coax is just as complex as splicing fiber

[vast saddle]

Yeah

DOCSIS is complex. PON is more simple

[tame estuary]

the actual fiber is cheaper than coax too. Granted I dont know the macro scale of the ISPs but I dont see how continuing development on coax based systems is cheaper than just giving everyone fiber

[vast saddle]

Also future DOCSIS upgrades will get more expensive

Like DOCSIS 5.0, etc

Like 25 Gbps over coax lmao. At that point you might as well go FTTH

[tame estuary]

Im not even talking at the end user level. Im talking the utility level

[vast saddle]

Also exactly

Now granted installing FTTH is more expensive to a cable provider

[tame estuary]

Could start running fiber to pole boxes/hand holes and then breakout to coax for the "final mile connections" until everyone eventually upgrades to fiber

[vast saddle]

Not even talking about the actual fiber. Talking like going into their home, installing the ONT, also manual labor

Also service disruption to the customer

[tame estuary]

they already go to the houses to install the coax

[vast saddle]

Upfront cost is more expensive but it’s cheaper over the long run

[tame estuary]

a couple hour disruption to upgrade the infrastructure vs nickle and diming consumers... oh wait

Nvidia must run all the ISPs in the US

[nova glacier]

The coax is often already there, and yet it still manages to cost more to the customer than fiber that was just planted. Profit margins of cable giants and subsidies to fiber skew things a little, but still it's crazy

[vast saddle]

Yeah

You know what else? PON networks consume less power than HFC networks

[tame estuary]

I think that we should just have neighborhood DCs /s

[vast saddle]

There’s no amplifiers and fiber nodes that need powering in a PON network

It’s literally just the OLT and ONT that need powering

I also found a video that you can turn a vCMTS into a PON OLT

https://www.youtube.com/live/LzY_jO5HV_0?si=8Zvm3pmbwqn5veUH

[tame estuary]

I wish verizon had a ONT module that I could plug into my UDM

I know they exist for some other carriers

other benifit of fiber, more protection from lightning strikes

(not impervious though)

[vast saddle]

I remember when a transformer blew up near my house

Cable TV and Phone went out

The fiber internet didn’t though

The ISP guy literally said the coaxial cables in the coax box was fried

[tame estuary]

so in my house I have fiber coming in going to the ONT box. Then Ethernet out. So I went ethernet to media converter then fiber from the media converter to my UDM. Just some extra piece of mind (plus its on the other side of my basement so I had to run fiber or cat6 anyways)

[vast saddle]

Also coaxial cable is definitely easier to falter

[tame estuary]

then I have fiber from my core switch out to my switch out in my garage for my cameras. Again for the lightning protection aspect.

[vast saddle]

Amplifier can go out. Water can get into the tap/coax plug ins and just trash the coax cable

Water is really bad for coax cable if it gets in

[tame estuary]

copper+water= oxidation

[vast saddle]

Yepppp

[tame estuary]

oxidation= terrible connection (or in the case of packets, packet loss)

[vast saddle]

Also coax is more susceptible to temperature changes

Especially at higher temperatures

[tame estuary]

atleast with fiber it either works or it doesnt

the modules on the ends though thats where you can have some problems if you are overdriving the optics

[vast saddle]

Yeah

[pearl drum]

how come my router has bad connection in one place but like 5 inches away it has really good connection

[opal pagoda]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propagation#Non-line-of-sight_modes

[pearl drum]

what...

router not antennas

[tame estuary]

Well if you’re not talking about WiFi then you probably have a bad Ethernet cable

[opal pagoda]

well you have to provide more info about your wan connection, router model and client connection method

[twin pier]

your router has antennas inside, that's how wifi works

it's radio

[mild whale]

it's quite simple. tiny moves simply change the phase of multiple paths. At wifi wavelength, 5 inches can swing from a constructive peak to a null; especially at 2.4 GHz (which is ~4.9 inches in wavelength,) and 5 GHz (2.4in in wavelength). Bodies, walls, and antenna polarization all reshape those paths, so that's how you get hot and dead spots inches apart.

all sciencebabble aside, it has to do with the antenna position and radiation pattern as well as the router's radiated power. the device you use also can change the results, too, depending where it's antennae are located.

[twin pier]

what does lambda mean in that

[mild whale]

wavelength.

speed of light divided by the frequency of the wave.

so at 5GHz, you have 3•10⁸ [m/s] / 5•10⁹ [1/s] = 0.0600 [m]

note that Hz can be defined as cycles per second, such that Hz = 1/s

really, λ can be defined as λ = v / f = c / n•f where v is the wave speed in the medium, c is the speed of light in a vacuum, n is the refractive index of the medium, and f is the frequency of the wave.

which is the same reason why 6GHz wifi gets obliterated by a piece of paper.

[vast saddle]

Don’t you love orbital angular momentum

[nova glacier]

So who wants to chip in for a 100G port at an IX with 30G IP transit, 10G to AWS, and 1G to Azure? It's only $7230/mo, not including cost of leasing dark fiber

[mild whale]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_angular_momentum_of_light

[vast saddle]

Yeah. Pretty cool

It’s awesome we are finding more ways to make fiber cables faster

Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing (DWDM) is commonly used nowadays in backbone fiber networks. Hopefully we see more of Spatial Division Multiplexing (SDM) and orbital angular momentum.

[river pecan]

what do yall think of these switches?

Dell Networking S4810P

Dell PowerConnect 6248

[stuck grove]

those are quite different switches

[lone crane]

wow those could not be any different

[pseudo blade]

My 8-port unmanaged TP-link gigabit switch (tabletop, in white)
Nexus 9808

[river pecan]

Well ofc they are different. I use both. One for low level distribution and one for fiber interconnects.

Just wanted to see if anyone has any experience with those here

[vivid plank]

What is this

I’m curious

[vast saddle]

Fiber splice enclosure

Pretty much looks like this

[vivid plank]

Oh interesting

[grim hare]

my rkill terminated procmon64.exe (PID: 30784) [T-HEUR] any advice dealing with cursor tampering and element tampering

[ionic fractal]

I think I lost my mind. I’m looking at re-setting up one of my opnsense computers with a 4 port nic card I have and doing a vlan style setup with one unmanaged switch per port. I know it’s doable but will do anything to increase security?

[pastel monolith]

Separating subnets or vlans or both is considered a good security practice to avoid communication between parts where it isn't intended or expected, that said if someone were to compromise the opensense box I think all bets are off, always about reducing risk though too not eliminating it

Is kinda similar story with docker, can help to isolate and separate things but also if someone has root privileges on the host it doesn't stop them from shuffling things around or modifying how the docker daemon itself works.

[ionic fractal]

i have a proxmox cluster with docker running in my vms

[pearl drum]

Is there a way where i can find where it gets best connection?

[ionic fractal]

im just debating on how i want to do my subnet setup as i have my proxmox cluster that i want on one (even tho its going to be mostly unrestricted lan access). then on the other my vlan will my lan devices for my house (apple tv, desktops). then i was gonna do a third with just my TP-Link AP (it has vlan support for multi ssid from what i saw).

[unborn sluice]

tes

[pseudo blade]

Well it's basically just VLANs without the V and therefore with more physical devices

Improving security depends on network boundaries and how much you trust the stuff in each subnet.

I think the biggest weakness of that implementation is that it offers no recourse for isolating untrusted devices from eachother

I will also note that if you're willing to step away from Cisco or new, managed switches in gigabit (10 gig uplinks) may be had for peanuts, it's been fully commoditised for ages

[mild whale]

I mean, yeah. there's a few ways to try to get the best.

You can usually access the devices Wifi RSSI meter in dBm, you can move around and watch the numbers change.

closer to 0 is better.

(you'll never get 0)

Other times you can use the router's management page, they'll often report signal strength too and do the same.

or the easy way is to just walk around and run speed tests lmao

[naive nest]

Are these BE9300 TP-Link Omada APs any good, or am I better off paying the extra for Ruckus, Cambium, etc?

[opal pagoda]

Afaik there is very little benafit of getting 773 vs a cheaper 772

[vast saddle]

I’m not gonna lie NG-PON2 seems weird

[proven raven]

These are what I was looking at getting for my AP's, before realizing I'd need an additional 10g seitch and 10g poe injectors. I settled on 2.5g since most everything that would need 10g is hardwired.
From what I can tell they're pretty goos, only reported issue is some extra heat from.

[lean palm]

They are fine aps, I like them more than ubiquiti. That being said, I'd go Ruckus or Cisco if budget is not an issue

[vast saddle]

50G PON >>> NG-PON2. Just more simple at the OLT and ONT I believe

[lean palm]

it is worth mentioning I've had multiple of these APS with broken ethernet ports

[proven raven]

Someone with fiber knowledge, help.
Want to throw my isp's calix router off a cliff and get my own, problem is the connection from the patch box to the calix is a fiber rx (the calix also functions as the ONT I believe, new to fiber so be gentle) - do I just need a base10g fiber to ethernet/copper converter, or what?

[vast saddle]

Calix is the ONT I think

[peak cloak]

depends if it's PON or direct

[vast saddle]

Yeahhhh

[peak cloak]

if it's PON, it's not really easy

and imo not worth the effort. Put the router into passthrough mode and use your own behind it

[vast saddle]

Ohhhhh Calix router and ONT

Ngl that’s interesting. The Calix I have at home is just an ONT. So like 10 gig fiber to 2.5G Ethernet

[peak cloak]

yeah, I have a dedicated ONT with verizon fios

no fuss

[vast saddle]

Calix ONT sitting comfortably in the closet

[vast saddle]

Yeah mine is on XGS-PON

I’m not complaining though. Plenty of capacity still.

[peak cloak]

idk what tech they use exactly

but I'm still on 300/300 and it's fine 95% of the time

keeps cost down

[vast saddle]

Same

I can get up to 2 gig symmetrical but that’s so overkill for me

Think that’s like $150 a month

[peak cloak]

there's an ISP here that offers 8 gig

[vast saddle]

8 gig. Damn

[vast saddle]

Ngl idk when my ISP will even offer 8 gig. Maybe when they upgrade to 25 gigabit symmetrical PON

[peak cloak]

You'd be so limited by exchanges and end server capacities

[vast saddle]

Yep

You can get 8 gig to your ISP server but they don’t really have much control outside of that

[proven raven]

I believe it's PON, but is there a way to verify?

I'm having my ISP do an ONT relocate, wonder if I can get them to implement a different connection so I don't have essentially two routers in the rack. Would much a prefer a dedicated and small form-factor ONT to an integrated router.

[proven raven]

I'm trying to get my place rigged for 8gig, my ISP just started offering it but I have 0 ethernet ports in my house lol.

[peak cloak]

ask for a dedicated ONT

[proven raven]

the support lady is a lil clueless haha, and so am I 😄 that'd be an ONT with just a fiber line in (rx) and a 10g ethernet/SFP out correct?

I guess while I'm bugging y'all about this, you guys can pick apart my choice of router/switches too.
TPLink Archer BE800 to a TPLink SX3206HPP to 2x TPLink SX-1008. 2x APs connected directly to the router (TPLink EAP653)

[vast saddle]

Yes

[vast saddle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FiberOptics/s/h6ZlEIrKtv

1.5 inches damn that’s shallow

It should be like atleast 12 inches deep

[twin pier]

pause

[ionic fractal]

I was looking at buying https://a.co/d/bQ0e21u or https://a.co/d/fylSpRl to replace my current tp-link router so I can get a proper vlan setup for my ssids. Would the cheaper one be good enough with WiFi 7 speeds? Internet is 1.25gb currently.

[topaz patrol]

Neither of those are routers

[ionic fractal]

I know. I just realized I left out a small detail. My current tplink router is in AP only mode

I am setting up my opnsense box on a different computer I have as the one it was set up on was having issues running my network (which is weird considering it can is running my servers fine).

[topaz patrol]

I have used plenty of Omada aps, they're mostly great

And you can self host the controller

[ionic fractal]

I can spin up a vm on either hyper v or on my cluster if anything but only need one and the ability to setup up multiple ssid vlans.

just not sure if i need too spend 100$ more if the 90$ AP can do the same but with just a slower nic.

[frail crystal]

Need a tech tip

I just bought a cudy WU 1400 1.0 wifi adapter, I downloaded all the drivers and all, It works fine for 2g, but it aint connecting to 5g, I even disabled the old adapter I had. What to do now?