networking

[pseudo blade]

Unfortunately the tech wouldn't run the NTD to a non-exterior wall

"Too hard"

[topaz patrol]

They don’t get paid to do it

[pseudo blade]

So currently my home setup is this until I can get an electrician in to run networking back to my office

[topaz patrol]

BYO conduit if you don’t want it opposite the PCD

Unfortunately

[pseudo blade]

Definitely going to get a power point actually next to it alongside the ethernet

Using one from the adjacent wall is especially gross

[topaz patrol]

Technically in spec

Except for using the power board

[pseudo blade]

The power board is my fault of course

They had it plugged in directly

[topaz patrol]

Yeah good

Rofl

[lone crane]

i like thread

[topaz patrol]

Use zigbee instead, no IPv6 bullshit :p

[lone crane]

buuu'

[topaz patrol]

lol

[native seal]

UK

we have different tarrifs based on chosen supplier

mine is 14p/kWh at night
and smth like 30p in day

[silent flax]

i wouldn't mind IPv6 if it was not such a mess and it wasn't that hard to add local DNS resolving to it

[topaz patrol]

Why do you need local dns resolving?

[silent flax]

for my local servers ?

or am i supposed to put all my local hostnames in the public DNS ?

[topaz patrol]

This

[topaz patrol]

Why not?

[twin pier]

whats harder about ipv6 than ipv4 for local dns

[silent flax]

IPv6 autoconfiguration pushes ISP DNS servers, and IPv6 DNS is prioritized over IPv4 DNS. Thus you either need to put your "internal" DNS records in public DNS server for your domain (if you got one in the first place) or possibly set up DHCPv6 which bunch of devices do not even support (Android for exampel)

plus bunch of ISPs only give out /64 to the end network, which adds another layer of "how to even do IPv6 with my own router behind the iSP router"

[twin pier]

that would be based on how your router is configured. but Is it common for consumer routers to only let you change ipv4 and not opv6 DNS?

[silent flax]

my router doesn't allow to change anything (outside of DHCP range and making IPs static).

And again. With IPv4 you could simply drop a dnsmasq to your local network, add DNS records saying this local hostname is this IP and it would work. With IPv6, you usually need to put that to your public DNS recoreds (if you got a domain) or nowhere at all (if you got no domain)

[twin pier]

If you can disable the ipv6 advertisement on the router similar to disabling dhcpv4 then you could also just drop a radvd server

[silent flax]

welcome to the DHCP section of the router /s

[twin pier]

That is odd. But you could try making your radvd server way higher priority, I think that would also prevent clients from using your router's built in one

[silent flax]

maybe i will try it once when i feel ready to screw up my home network once again. For now i put my whole network behind a mini PC acting as a router and anything public is published via my VPS

[topaz patrol]

The solution: IPv4

[clear igloo]

IPv8

[frosty stone]

Where is ipv5

[clear igloo]

ipv7 8 9

[random siren]

dead. look up internet stream protocol

[viral mango]

Can someone vc and help me install WiFi drivers

[opal pagoda]

Disable it and host your own

[silent flax]

not an option

[topaz patrol]

Disable IPv6 😌

[topaz patrol]

It was some downstream asshole who made a loop and for some fucking reason filtering was off on that port so it killed everything for 4 hours

[white prairie]

if i have 2 routers/modems how does that affect my bandwidth

[pseudo blade]

Usually it doesn't. But you get the cumulative effect of any problems along a network path and of course the slowest router on a path imposes an upper limit on bandwidth.

[ancient arch]

You need a load balancer to combine the bandwidth or else manually split your internal network so that some devices use one modem and some the other

[topaz patrol]

Uh what

[ancient arch]

Which part? Lol

[pseudo blade]

I think I answered it assuming they were in series on a network (e.g: a double NAT or other nesting), and @ancient arch answered assuming they're in parallel (two internet connections with two routers).

We don't know for certain how the routers are configured and connected.

[topaz patrol]

I guess you’re right, there is no knowing what the fuck is happening

[pastel monolith]

Yeah answer is depends on how you're hooking stuff up

[silent flax]

technically not an option in the ISP router; added my own router behind it which doesn't do IPv6 relay, thus i did disable IPv6 that way

[clear igloo]

Or get good and embrace IPv6 😄

[pastel monolith]

meh IPv4 still way more widely supported I'm on the if you don't need it disabling it (IPv6) might be the best option still train

[clear igloo]

Dual stack

Enabling IPv6 doesn't disable IPv4

but letters are spoopy 😛

[pastel monolith]

right but pertaining to the DNS resolution and not needing to reconfigure every single client on a network and deal with port binding issues (as a dev) is just pain

if have IPv6 enabled localhost could resolve either to the IPv4 address or the IPv6 address and depending on what port a process is bound to it will or will not be getting those packets, the DNS stuff is annoying too IMO, I ran bind-9 for my own DNS here for a while but now mostly rely on avahi for name resolution things on the local network or just go on fixed IPs set from the router.

[clear igloo]

bind9 for IPv6 dns management is hell

[white prairie]

i have one for my house i want one for my room so I can use consoles/my pc on it but thats really it, maybe my phone

[clear igloo]

Microsoft DNS is a easier from a GUI perspective but DNS and lack of DHCP6 support on half of devices is a major pita

[white prairie]

^

[waxen scroll]

or dont because you have auditors and dont want to expand your vulnerability footprint

[lone crane]

thread

[opal pagoda]

you can always write them in binary

[compact flint]

what is the difference between tp-link deco m4 and e4 apart from the price?

[clear igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-patrick-harris-shudder-shrug-disgusted-gif-13575156

[opal pagoda]

E4 has 100mbps ports, m4 has gigabit ports
both suck

[opal pagoda]

i need it

oh wow it is cheap

[clear igloo]

10-pack, for the whole office 😄

[opal pagoda]

it should also include : for mac addresses

[clear igloo]

MAC Buddy

MACv2 Buddy, beyond hex 😛

[opal pagoda]

ah i am blind

it is there in the bottom

[compact flint]

so what is better option than deco for the same price?

[opal pagoda]

what is your budget
would it be possible to connect them with a ethernet cable?

[compact flint]

it's possible

[opal pagoda]

then its fine
issue with low end decos is that they dont have dedicated radio for backhaul

[compact flint]

I'm from Poland so bugget will be a little bit different
after conversion it's 80$

[fervent brook]

Why...
Aggregation?

[ornate jungle]

This 2-port USB LAN adapter is a versatile solution for connecting to two separate physical networks simultaneously, leveraging the 5 Gbps speed of USB 3.0 to provide dedicated gigabit bandwidth to each port. The dual USB NIC is also ideal for providing dedicated physical network interfaces to virtual machine configurations. Great for IT administrators that require dual-homed or multi-homed host systems.
https://www.startech.com/en-ca/networking-io/usb32000spt

[ancient arch]

You can use it as an access point. Connect both routers LAN port to LAN port. Disable DHCP server from the one in your room. Basically it will act as a switch with wifi.

Oh and you can use another IP from same range as from the main router in the secondary. Some routers actually have a built-in access-point or access bridge mode for this purpose.

[white prairie]

theres scarce lan ports in my house

or do u mean to each other

[twin pier]

how is there a different one for euro and us

i cant even tell the difference

[ancient arch]

Yes. LAN port of one router connected to the other.

[white prairie]

they are too far

if i just set 2 up will there be any issues

[ancient arch]

Is the ISP connected to both directly?

You need some sort of connection to both to get internet. Unless you want one only locally without internet.

[white prairie]

yea just 2 different coax ports in the wall

[topaz patrol]

Never!

[ancient arch]

Then they have to be their own separate connections. Use different SSIDs for ease of differentiation

[white prairie]

yea ofc

but there should be no problems or interference?

[ancient arch]

Use different bands. Just two routers don't have an issue of interference. The issue is all the other in the vicinity

[white prairie]

wdym

[ancient arch]

There's apps for checking wifi signal and interference in all bands.

Bands means frequency range

[white prairie]

bands as in 2.4ghz and 5ghz

?

[ancient arch]

Well they are broken into channels

Like 2.4 Ghz has channel 1 through 11.

[white prairie]

so i need differnt channels?

[ancient arch]

One can use channel 1 and the other channel 11

[white prairie]

i see

to ensure theres no interference

issue is that one router is from my isp and xfinity doesnt rly let u configure anything anymore

[ancient arch]

Yes. The main issue can be the presence of other wireless routers in the vicinity. Just two routers is not the problem.

[white prairie]

i see

just bc theyre so close

[ancient arch]

If the router can't let you change the channel, it is probably programmed to scan the wireless spectrum and select the one with less interference

Which in fairness all routers that let you choose, also do.

[white prairie]

trying to see if it lets me change

idk where to find the setting what would it be under

yeah it doesnt let me change

[white prairie]

so basically if i get 2 they'll auto select the best ones

[ancient arch]

Yes they should.

[white prairie]

perfect

also question

what devices even us 6ghz

[twin pier]

if your phone has wifi 7 it most likely does, and if it has 6e then it definitely does

[white prairie]

how do i even find that

[twin pier]

look up the spec sheet for your phone and then see the section on wifi standards

[white prairie]

okay

cuz my router settings say 0 devices r connected to the 6ghz

evenythings on 5ghz and 1 is on 2.4

[opal pagoda]

most likely firmware compatability with certain layouts

: on US keyboard is ; +shift
on layout in europe it is . + shift

[clear igloo]

fe80::192.168.1.100/64

[pastel monolith]

Cursed

[opal pagoda]

Here is valid one
fe80::c0a8:0164/64

[clear igloo]

technically it's ::ffff:192.168.1.100/96 which is a valid IPv4-Mapped IPv6 address representation
it's the ::ffff:0:0/96 range

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4291#section-2.2
subsection 3

It's not really usable/routable but it is a valid way to represent it at least, been a long time since I've looked at it though

[opal pagoda]

Neet

Anyway octet is exactly 2 digits of hex so that is how i translated

[topaz patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/superstore-pray-gif-25373459

Get that away from me! :p

[native seal]

had to rebuild my rack cuz it wouldn't shut properly with the cables in front

newbie issues I'm sure

getting ready to start setting up my switch and router

but an issue I've found, on every port of my patch panel, pin1 doesn't get signal unless I jam the connector right in there, hense the ziptie on the one port I am using as a temp connection

is this just a cheap patch panel issue? am I missing something?

[peak cloak]

have you tried a different cable?

[native seal]

I've tied 5, all ones I made myself mind you

and all cables I've tested as good

it's always pin1 that drops

on every port of my patch panel

my background is as an electrician, not an IT tech, hense I can make RJ45 ends off but dunno what I'm doing

[peak cloak]

and you verified the cable with a tester right?

[native seal]

indeed I did

[peak cloak]

if you did yeah I would say bad patch panel

[native seal]

that's legit the only thing I purchased in this rack lmao, that kinda blows

[peak cloak]

never really seen that before

[native seal]

already wired up 10 ports in the house to it 😔

[peak cloak]

oh yeah that sucks, if the connector itself doesn't work unless you jam it and the cable is good, don't see what else could be wrong except the panel

[native seal]

might just ziptie every port till I get a new one then ngl lmao
oh well

cheers anyhow

but ye got 2 40u racks and some cisco gear in a bin lmao
huge W, got it ages ago, only just swapped ISP's to one which isn't draconian and allows 3rd party equipment

plan to fill the rest of it with batteries

maybe a NAS too idk

anyone know of good in-rack fire suppression?
I plan to use out of warrenty dead batteries from work to make myself a powerwall

I also assume that everything in the rack should have equipotential bonding?
but I don't seem to know anyone else doing it so idk the meta on thst
was just gon loop a 4mm between all equipment and have a 10mm to my MET

at least nobody can unplug my crap now lol

[topaz patrol]

😌

Zip ties should be illegal

[native seal]

nah i use flushcut nips u ain't getting cut by my ones

also i have 2000 of them in my work van, why not steal them?

[opal pagoda]

i would reccomend not using traditional punchdown patch pannels, rather use ones that allow mounting of keystones

[native seal]

send link/

again idk wtf am doing

[opal pagoda]

i use this
https://itinfra.datwyler.com/en/copper-networks/patch-panels/patch-panel-ks-24x/

[native seal]

👌 super, ye already a fan of that

tyty

cuz ye drop[ping the whole panel to add more cables is aids

[opal pagoda]

but realistically anything that has holes for keystones is suitable, i just use datwlyer ones as that is my supplier

[native seal]

£14 on ebay for some genric ass one

the keystones themselves will matter more i am sure, i use CEF and YESSS as suppliers, might ask them their oppinions and if i get no good answer i shall ask in here

so the keystones are just female to female connectors?

that makes life v easy actually cuz i have hundreds of rj45 ends in a bag lol would be good to use em

oh the modularity, i am v pleased with this knowledge, thank you

[opal pagoda]

keystones can be found in various types, even non ethernet like usb, hdmi, type c

[native seal]

huh
might bring my console ports to the front with those too then

[opal pagoda]

i mainly use shielded tooless varieties

[native seal]

rip my new punchdown tool then

[opal pagoda]

just return it as it has manufacturing defect

[native seal]

i bought it over a year ago, most likely outside the window now

was sat in the corner of my kitchen for ages untill fibre was brought to my street

[opal pagoda]

did you crimp those by hand?
maybe your crimping tool messes up pin 1 , try to use prefab cables

[native seal]

not my crimper, i have 3 pairs of those anyhow, i also test all my cables and they gucci

this is the type I use

these ones are poop

[opal pagoda]

if i have to crimp i use knipex rj45 crimper

https://www.knipex.com/products/crimping-pliers/crimping-pliers-for-western-plugs/crimping-pliers-western-plugs/975113

[native seal]

i love knipex, most my other tools are those

i don't do rj45 for work tho, only very rarely

i do solar and most ppl use wifi for inverter comms

[opal pagoda]

i dont do it often but when i do it is urgent and it matters so i have them and high quality connectors

[native seal]

makes sense yeah

even for some 230kw systems i've done the client chose wifi for whatever reason so it's rlly a rarity for me

i can afford to faff around when they do ask

i use cat5e constantly, but for CT comms or BMS systems, where it's always a direct connection into a device and no rj45 connector

[opal pagoda]

you will then enjoy this even tho from network side it was pain in my ass to troubleshoot (NTP issues+ dns issues)

had to pcap the stupid thing to get slightest clue what it was as datamanager was reporting that connection to cloud was good but sma cloud couldnt see it and it couldnt be commisioned

[native seal]

that's a huge system lol

1.9MW?

[opal pagoda]

25x50kw inverters, 1.9mw of panels

[native seal]

why so many small inverters?
ground based system?

[opal pagoda]

roofs of buildings in our factory area

[opal pagoda]

https://www.sma.de/en/products/solarinverters/sunny-tripower-core1
these inverters are used, i wasnt involved with planning and design

[peak cloak]

more expensive

makes less sense when you have alot

[opal pagoda]

yea they are pricy...

at home i use plastic non shielded ones but still tooless

[native seal]

just had a nightmare clearing the p/w on this router i had found lol, got it all fully reset, leaving it for now tho

there's a ton i need to learn in reguards to setting this up now

the switch i still ain't touched lol

other than trying to use it and nothing working as it was, prolly VLANs set up by last owner messing w/ it

yes i did just plug in stuff i found lol

[opal pagoda]

if its cisco factory resets are simple

[amber urchin]

nice

[native seal]

for the switch yes it was v easy, for the router i had to do some weird remove the CF disk, go into ramon mode or w/e it's called, load a default, reinsert the flash card, save to that to overwrite to delete the old p/w and then reboot into defaults to start setting it up

[shadow bluff]

one of the sub rack we had to work on lol

[topaz patrol]

Rofl

[shadow bluff]

no patch panels, no proper uplink passthrough, no cable management, no patch cords, mesh wifi inside the rack

sheesh they even used unmanaged switch for distribution

not even L2

[carmine matrix]

I need help picking out a rack. I want to have 2 r730 2u servers that are 660mm deep and a switch and patch pannel. I’d like an enclosed rack and I want it to be 6-12u. Does anyone have any enclosed or non enclosed recommendations?

[opal pagoda]

aproximate location?
budget?
solid front panel, mesh or glass?

[carmine matrix]

United States, ideally under $300, not picky but ideally glass

[low marsh]

hi there, I'm not super familiar with networking. and this is more of a home internet question than anything.

over here in Australia we're only just getting fibre to the premises lmao. mine is being installed today.

Ive got a granny flat in the backyard where my computer, ps5 is etc and while I'm sure the ps5 will still be able to make a connection, my computer won't as it is ethernet only.

what would be a suitable way to connect my PC via wifi, I understand buying a wifi card etc but any sort of recommendations as it would need to be reasonably long range while keeping speeds good

[pastel monolith]

Would just make sure the WiFi receiver card uses whatever is the most modern WiFi protocol the router supports (or better). Also make sure it has detachable antenna (is the norm but would double check) then if the signal not great can potentially replace the antenna and/or have an antenna wire to extend it so can mount somewhere higher/less interference.

You could also potentially use directional antenna since they help to focus on signals only from one direction, sort of related to that making sure the WiFi channel being used is as far from neighbor WiFi signals channel can help some too

[low marsh]

seems like my router is wifi 5 at the most.

do wifi 6/7 cards have backwards compatability like that?

[pastel monolith]

Yeah is almost always supports up to x protocol and basically backwards compatible with anything less when comes to WiFi

[low marsh]

okay wonderful, much appreciated

[lethal spade]

my computer won't as it is ethernet only.

Yes, it will. Ethernet can do 1Gbps, 10Gbps, and even more, even though it is copper. The reason your ISP needs to bring fibre to your house is because copper can only do those speeds for short distances. 1Gbps Ethernet goes for 100 meters, for example. And that can be extended with cheap hubs or switches if you need to run it longer. However, fiber can run even for several kilometers between hubs, making a country-wide Gigabit network possible.

[low marsh]

I think you've misunderstood what I've said, and either way have fixed the problem.

[twin pier]

huh I'm confused why does the computer being Ethernet only mean you must use WiFi, wouldn't it be the opposite

[lone crane]

can wifi be ethernet?

[carmine moss]

Yeah it makes no sense. If you currently use a cable you can just use that even if the isp uses fiber..

[topaz patrol]

No

[lone crane]

ok

[twin pier]

wifi is wireless and Ethernet is wired

[lone crane]

aaaa

[topaz patrol]

Not necessarily

[lone crane]

f
-# aaaaaaaaaa

[lone crane]

why not just run ethernet to the shed

either copper or even fiber

[twin pier]

I'm curious what gotcha you want to say here

[lone crane]

copper if its short or fiber if its a distance

[topaz patrol]

Ethernet can be run over microwave

[twin pier]

Sending Ethernet frames over the air would be terrifying

Well it could solve one pain point

I guess its what some wifi mesh protocols do

[low marsh]

this is originally what i did, but the location of the router changed etc. it was cheaper to just get a wifi card (i didnt have one before, preferred the stability of ethernet) than to get a long ass cable and run it through the house (also annoying and ugly)

[lone crane]

wat

did you not read what we said literally just said above

[lone crane]

.

ethernet is wired

wifi cannot really be

and its wifi that is unstable and at the distance i think you want its going to be UNSTABLE

and that is without rain or bad weather

[carmine moss]

Like you can just run a cable to where your other cable is also and just use a cable coupler

[low marsh]

sure, i could do that. but i'd have to run said cable through the house (not my house) and its also ugly as hell

i have others in the house to consider

the easier solution (which has also already been done and is working) is to get a wifi card which i did not have before

[lone crane]

why not just run it on the outside of the house??

and then make a hole next to the router

[low marsh]

it is not my house and I cannot make those modifications

[lone crane]

ask the person if it can be possible

[low marsh]

landlords? zero chance

[lone crane]

or just use the closest window

i know a person who just runs a ethernet cable out their windows down to the router

[low marsh]

thats still significantly more cost than buying a network card

which again i already have done'

[lone crane]

the network card will have way higher ping, and packet loss if it even reaches

[low marsh]

i've got less ping and no noticeable loss

[lone crane]

you cant have less ping

[low marsh]

wifi 7 for you

[clear igloo]

Ethernet also a frame type
Ethernet can be transmitted over just about any medium you want

[low marsh]

going from cat5 to wifi 7 is almost certainly going to be an improvement

[twin pier]

I don't think its useful to bring that up

[low marsh]

i dont understand why this is being dragged on, the solution has been found and done already

[twin pier]

running Ethernet through a house outside of the walls is ugly, I wouldn't blame you especially if you don't play competitive games

[low marsh]

i do. my loss and ping are the same, if not better than before.

and the rest of the houses occupants are happy

[peak cloak]

ethernet is a protocol technically

I think ethernet frames technically go over wifi

nevermind scratch that, they do not it's different

[twin pier]

Not in 802.11. But you can do it and I believe that's how some of the WiFi mesh protocols work

I don't know howo to verify that thoigh

There's depressingly little info on how various mesh WiFi systems actually work and what they do

[peak cloak]

how long is the distance? You could use one of those line of sight transmitters to get pretty good connection

[clear igloo]

We shoved electricity into sand and made it send pulses of energy at high frequencies to other electrified sand so we can send cat memes 😄

We don't need no dang documentation!

[twin pier]

this poor guy's recommendations keep getting more and more elaborate

[clear igloo]

What OP really needs is an ISP grade network and an invest into either an MPLS or SRv6 backbone to connect two EVPN Spine/Leaf networks on either side

[twin pier]

I can stand behind that one

[peak cloak]

the way I understood it is that they want signal to a guest house basically away from the main house

something p2p like that would be the best

[twin pier]

So I reread the original question and it makes sense to me now. Idk what I was thinking before. They don't have WiFi support and are asking for recommendations on WiFi cards to connect the PC to wifi

[clear igloo]

Yah, extra details provided that complicates/confuses the ask but agreed, just need a wifi card to connect the PC to the network is essentially the ask

[twin pier]

I can recommend ax210 based cards but I bought that specifically because of needing AMD support and it going in my laptop socket instead of a pcie daughterboard

[pastel monolith]

Everyone needs their morning coffee I think, trying to answer a thing that was matter of buy WiFi card and is done ✅

[opal pagoda]

fiber is also "wireless" 🤣

[twin pier]

that's a good point

[topaz patrol]

The ‘tik wireless wires do a good job

[ornate jungle]

Heck, even CAT5e and CAT6 can be wireless - you just have to buy really thin, cheaply made cables. You know, the one's that have less wires than the quality cables.

[vagrant nimbus]

Air fibre entered the chat

[twin pier]

fibre is already not a wire though if you think about it

[opal pagoda]

Its a light tube

[zinc fog]

I need recommendation for a firewall os? I only need portforwarding, maybe wireguard in the future (web gui for wireguard would be great). Nothing fancy. I basically need to replace an old wifi router.

[lone crane]

NSFN

[topaz patrol]

Nothing fancy? Spend $45 on an ER605, it'll just work and you won't have to fuck around

Otherwise there's pfsense/opnsense or RouterOS (will cost you a little for the license)

Openwrt can also be run on x86

[zinc fog]

Okay, I already bought a mini pc with 4 ethernet ports

what should i use, pfsense or opnsense?

[topaz patrol]

opnsense is generally preferred for homelabs compared to pfsense community

[zinc fog]

Okay, I'll download that then. Thank you so much

[topaz patrol]

Try both 🙂

routeros also has a trial before you need to buy a license (the license is like $30 or something for gigabit)

[zinc fog]

Okay, I want something without a license. I usually donate if I use and like the project

[topaz patrol]

Then don't use routeros 🙂

[zinc fog]

🙂

[fallow cloak]

Please tell me those are Intel nics?

[fallow cloak]

OPNSense all the way tbh

[zinc fog]

oh, no idea

[fallow cloak]

So, for BSD based firewalls you almost certainly want Intel NICs

Others will probably work but can be quite hit/miss.

[zinc fog]

yes, intel

just checked

[fallow cloak]

Which kind?

[topaz patrol]

The good ones :p

[zinc fog]

Bought a topton 12th Gen Intel N100

got it used for a good price

[fallow cloak]

inb4 I225-V

[zinc fog]

4x2.5GHz intel i226

[fallow cloak]

Intel fucked the I225-V so badly

[fallow cloak]

Nice! Well enjoy, will be a good router.

[zinc fog]

😄

[fallow cloak]

If you geta. chance I'd love to get detailed specs on that for my database

https://awesomeminipc.com/

[zinc fog]

Okay, will do

https://www.toptonpc.com/product/12th-gen-intel-n100-firewall-computer-n6000-n5105-n5100-soft-router-4x-2-5g-i226-lan-industrial-fanless-mini-pc-pfsense-pve-esxi/

I think it's this one

[topaz patrol]

We use them for failover and bonding, they're pretty solid

[fallow cloak]

They're very popular at the moment.

For over 2.5G I'd go elsewhere though

[topaz patrol]

I think they're older i3s though, not n100

[fallow cloak]

Actually a reasonable amount of information here, cheers. Usually very difficult to get detailed specs.

[sharp oak]

is this a good router (I would be using like 6 of them fyi I have a VERY large place to cover)

[topaz patrol]

If you don't want a web interface, it's likely fine

[fallow cloak]

Honestly just go with unifi if you need wifi like that on a budget

[topaz patrol]

Or Omada 😌

[fallow cloak]

@topaz patrol ❤️ ty for the device submission, my first time testing this workflow with someone else

[topaz patrol]

All good, we got it about a week ago and it's pretty obscure so I thought I'd put it up :)

[sour glacier]

tbh for the price they are really good, and if you are a network geek opnsense is a good bit of fun

[sour glacier]

not too sure, but as a heads up a lot of devices dont support wifi 7 at the moment so just something to be aware of

[sharp oak]

Are there Omada access points and routers?

I thought everything was VPN routers

[topaz patrol]

Yes....

APs

Gateways

And there's switching

[fallow cloak]

Yeah for sure. I run 5 instances of OPNSense across sites, none on these machines though.

Use old lenovos because they're cheaper and more powerful, one site does 10Gb/s routing with 5Gb/s internet so these lil boxes are not enough

[fallow cloak]

Identified some issues with the validation but all fixed and that device is added 😄

[flat valley]

Me clicking here thinking it's a networking chat to meet people and game together

Then again... it is "networking" related as it's over the internet

[silent flax]

wish i had a reason to grab one of these, but i ain't paying 450 euros for Pentium 8505 + 4x2.5G + 4x10G thing 😄 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008652718035.html

[zinc fog]

I bought it used, only reason

oh, didnt see the spf

[silent flax]

i use this guy as a router https://www.notebookcheck.net/Minisforum-Venus-Series-UN100D-review-Mini-PC-for-office-tasks-with-Intel-N100-and-DDR5-RAM-starts-at-219-euros.848439.0.html

it had one of the weirdest SSD brands installed (replaced it with 1TB SSD from my stash)

[zinc fog]

looks nice 🙂

[silent flax]

2x2.5G was all i needed, so yeah

[zinc fog]

Yea, gonna buy a cheapo ssd for mine

[silent flax]

it is just a router and a bit of docker; server tasks and 10G networking is on my actual server (2950x, 128GB RAM)

[zinc fog]

I don't need 2.5gbit. I finally getting fiber, so I want to future proof if i get faster internet

[silent flax]

technically neither do i, but my internet is gigabit, and i upgraded all my internal networking to 2.5G minimum, so why not

[zinc fog]

true

[silent flax]

i mean i get 150-170MB/s copying from the routers SSD to the server

and it's not like 2.5G switches are expensive

[zinc fog]

they were cheaper than I thought when i bought one

but i dont have use for it yet, not transferring a lot of data on my network

[silent flax]

a 10G SFP to RJ45 module from ALiexpress will now you set back more than a 4x2.5G + 2x10G SFP switch 😄

[zinc fog]

the government cracked down on import from aliexpress, so now it's harder for us to buy cheap stuff

[lone crane]

O YEA god i love the little bastard

like 40$ and ya get a unmanaged switch with dat

a sfp+ card costs almost as much as it

[silent flax]

i just put the X540-T2 card and the RJ45 SFP+ 10G adapter away into the storage after i got my ConnectX3. Too bad neither of these cards, nor the LSI HBA supports PCIe power management, but oh well

[lone crane]

NO ASPM WHAT

the x540 Launch Date
Q1'12

[silent flax]

https://z8.re/blog/aspm.html

[lone crane]

i already read it

[silent flax]

i need to upgrade to 9300 series of LSI cards and X710... but the cost is not worth it 😄

electricity in my location is a bit bellow 0.16 euro per kWh, so like whatever, few watts

[lone crane]

ngl i could get away with getting a bitcoin miner or some shit when it comes to power use but the place im at is just so heat efficient to where i would cook myself

[silent flax]

in theory i could completely remove the HBA with the amount of hard drives i have in the server now, but i will probably only do it when i will replace the whole server platform

[lone crane]

i wanna see what C state my server is at

just need to SSH into it but gonna see how i do dat on truenas

AAAAAAAAAAA

OMG i just needed to do sudo 😐

i have no clue how to read this

[silent flax]

C1ACPI% to C3ACPI%

[lone crane]

i think i understand now, i think maybe im locked to max c3

but here it is c7

yea CPU%c7

ok nice my cores are able to mostly go into c7

buut uhm now i kinda wanna try c8

[silent flax]

only C1 & C2 for me on my Threadripper

[lone crane]

xd

[silent flax]

also i run transcoding on them right now, so...

[lone crane]

now i wanna try to go down to c8

[lone crane]

tbf my cpu only idles at 20w

not sure how much of a shit i really give

my HDDs use A LOT more power

[mellow hemlock]

Heya. I set up a super basic NAS on my Mint desktop via Samba and uploaded a couple-GB video file from my phone, it took ~30m to upload.
I have a few ideas why it is so slow, but want some input.

• The NAS is using Wifi
• Phones are slow (Samsung S23 Ultra)
• NAS Hardware is a bit old (Alienware Aorura R7 Parts (i7-8700, 2x16gb 2666MT/s, 120GB SATA SSD boot (also the nas drive)))
  Any idea if it is either these or something else?

[stuck grove]

almsot certainly the fact your nas is on WIFI

[mellow hemlock]

Gotcha. Not too big of an issue at least since it was for a quick setup. I can probably switch it to ethernet tomorrow*

[pastel monolith]

Hmm sounds pretty slow tbh, can use rsync like rsync -ah --progress some-big-file.mp4 test.mp4 to see roughly speed moving either locally or across the network to try and narrow it down to either disk or network. Also check wifi details on phone should show roughly peak speed it can get with the current connection strength.

[tight pecan]

Perhaps your NAS has a wifi card that is a bit on the older side? Is it connected to 2.4GHz or 5GHz?

[topaz patrol]

<@&750150305383186585>

[mellow hemlock]

How do I check? It does use a wifi card but I dont imagine it is that bad as the pc was prebuilt for gaming use

[mellow hemlock]

I'll try this out when I am able to

[silent flax]

most NAS boxes are literally running on dualcore 1.5GHz ARM CPUs and even gigabit copying barely taxes them. You can bet theissue is not your NAS HW. It is the networking, either the NAS, router or phone side.

[silent flax]

for example if you wifi is only 802.11n because of the router othe PC wifi card, you are down to 150Mbps or 300Mbps link speed. Which if the limiting factor is the router, then we talk about sharing that bandwidth between both devices, so you might be down to 40-50Mbps actual copying speed

[topaz patrol]

<@&750150305383186585>

[mellow hemlock]

Ouch, that's possibly it then. So yeah I'll plug it into the ethernet later on today and then see how much better it does

[mellow hemlock]

Works 100% better, ty guys

it's still not ultra fast, but it did 6gb in like, under 10m now

[gloomy wraith]

I got a problem where after probably 1 hour after using my pc, it me shows that im connected to the router but the router app shows me that my pc is offline. The real problem is that apps just tell me that the site cant be reached but some apps like insta or yt music are still working and i can listen to any song or text with people with no problem. If this happens during a discord call i still talk to people without any issues. rn i cant reach any sites and im writing this on my pc -_-

[pastel monolith]

nice seems more reasonable for sure, tried yesterday here from phone to NAS (NAS is wired) and was about 30MB/s so took around 30-40s to transfer a 1GB file

[stuck grove]

restart pc, remove the pc from your network in the app, then relogin to the network on your pc

[pastel monolith]

Router app showing it offline is pretty suspect... usually things like you're describing behavior wise it's DNS (for some reason DNS server isn't responding correctly to query for domain -> IP look-ups and so new connections fail but things already cached still work)

[gloomy wraith]

gonna try it rn

[gloomy wraith]

its working for now, normally when restarting my pc fixes it but just for a while, atleast my pc is online in the router app

[gloomy wraith]

it shows offline but no problems yet

[pastel monolith]

oh F actually there's a ton of problems atm just like widely on the internet

cloudflare/GCP outages

[hidden obsidian]

And AWS is impacted as well yep

Not sure which one triggered it, but it could've been a domino effect depending on what one of them may have done

[pastel monolith]

I didn't do it! 😄

[hidden obsidian]

lol I'm just sitting here watching it all burn lmao

I work for an ISP that mainly uses GCP and so many things are dead in the water till it gets fixed lol

[pastel monolith]

funny enough I was working as contractor on some part of AT&T when they had BGP outage thing a while back and then facebook got locked out and had to break in to get keys... ah the internet

[hidden obsidian]

Oh god wonder what they did, black hole traffic or something

[pastel monolith]

yeah it ended up being like a mis-configuration that got through somehow, the details escape me now but was like an intern change that got merged in or something and just destroyed some part of the internet for a while

[hidden obsidian]

It was probly somebody messing with RPKI or something lol

I wouldn't be surprised if this big cloud issue is the result of some intern making a change without approvals lol

[opal pagoda]

good luck
i work at a enterprise and last week our public dns provider got attacked so dns resolution for our public domain was down
harsh times and i couldnt do shit about it except look at status page

[hidden obsidian]

Oof thats no bueno at all

[opal pagoda]

not many people noticed it as outage was from 16 to early in the morning

but those that did raised hell

[hidden obsidian]

I wonder what attack vector they used cause you can mitigate some basic DDOS attacks by not responding to rapid ICMP messages, but some people forget those basic things you can do

[opal pagoda]

we are definitly looking for a more serious dns provider after this

[hidden obsidian]

Perhaps a hybrid approach where you have a primary and secondary? I haven't looked much into DNS in forever so idk how feesable that would even be

[opal pagoda]

well NS wasnt advertised so dont know if that would help much

[hidden obsidian]

No idea, from a redundancy perspective it would make sense to prevent a reoccurrence of that issue unless your company was specifically targeted

[opal pagoda]

no we werent targeted directly

if it were up to me i would go to cloudflare as if they are down half the internet is down

[hidden obsidian]

Technically they were impacted in this cloud issue, but they are less likely to go down independently of others.

[opal pagoda]

they just reroute to another site so no big deal except slightly higher latency

[hidden obsidian]

They certainly have their ish together for sure

[twin pier]

was this another clpudflare moment

[hidden obsidian]

I think its more of a GCP issue, however the ISP I work for uses GCP so I am a bit biased

[opal pagoda]

what does ISP do on GCP?

does core infra pass through it for some reason?

[hidden obsidian]

Its more backend systems, our buyflow and payment processing and tools hosted in GCP

Our actual Network is more or less fine. Except maybe our OLT provisioning software which I think is also hosted in GCP lol

But thats just access end, core/backbone is all fine

[opal pagoda]

Interesting

[hidden obsidian]

I know our fault management/NMS was fine thankfully so we don't have missed alerts

[opal pagoda]

Is NMS hosted onsite or on cloud?

[hidden obsidian]

Pretty sure its cloud, we're moving to a new one that'll be on GCP next quarter I think

At my old ISP we had a Azure/AWS mix depending on the tool. Pretty sure it was just Azure for AD and Sharepoint with the rest on AWS

Granted I was just a user and didn't manage any of that infra since I deal with the actual Network

[opal pagoda]

I am running NMS on dedicated server and dedicated SAN in our HQ

[hidden obsidian]

My company hosts pretty much every service/server in GCP except our local market speedtest servers since we have a deal with Google to give us a discount iirc

[topaz patrol]

Cloudflare ❤️
It's so cheap too!

[mellow hemlock]

Heya. I upgraded my quick-nas (samba on Mint) to have a 1Tb drive rather than the remaining 25gb from my boot drive (a 120gb drive)
I also created a second user to use it with.
I already replaced the user in smb.conf with the new user and restarted smbd, but if I later on give the new user chownage of the samba directory, do I need to restart smbd service again?
Asking cause I can connect to and log into it on my phone, but the files dont load anymore

Scratch tha user error, I was on the wrong address

[stuck grove]

my 2u vented panel from ubiquiti arrived rusty and covered in caked on dust, i’ll have to wait and see what they say

[meager ginkgo]

If we're talking DNS- I like Quad9 and NextDNS

[topaz patrol]

Authoritative dns, both of those only offer recursive dns :)

quad9 doesn't have nearly enough pops for my liking, it's quite slow

[meager ginkgo]

Ah didn't go up too far

[meager ginkgo]

Just out of curiosity, are you in the US?

[topaz patrol]

No, Australia

[meager ginkgo]

lol yeah makes sense then

[topaz patrol]

Only on ix australia and megaport too I'm pretty sure

[frosty stone]

Did you buy it direct from ubiquiti?

Looks like it's sat in a damp warehouse since it was made

[long scarab]

happy pride month, nerdsss :3

[fallow cloak]

Spanning tree go brr

[long scarab]

that whole block on my switch is completely sectioned off, it's fine

i don't have a cable tester so those 12 ports are my cable testing ports

[fallow cloak]

Cable in port 37 giving me real anxiety

[long scarab]

it'll be fiiinee

(it goes to my pc)
I'm remaking those cables anyways

Way better than before

[fallow cloak]

yeah I've done much worse, still not sure what people mean when they say you're not allowed to bend fibre

I've done some absolutely cursed OM3/4 runs before

[long scarab]

id say ive gotten much better at making my own cables

[fallow cloak]

Those do look very nice. I always sucked at it

[long scarab]

i increased my budget by about $15 and got all of this shit

[fallow cloak]

Could never get the pairs in th channels properly, the pull through jacks are easier

[long scarab]

i think passthrough is actually harder to work with

[long scarab]

@fallow cloak here's the patch panel before i redo it this weekend

[brazen lark]

I am replacing my realtek card with an Intel AX210, already uninstalled the wifi and bluetooth drivers, was about to shutdown but saw that ethernet driver too, now I'm confused

Do I need to uninstall the

Realtek PCIe GbE family controller

too? Cuz that seems to be the driver for ethernet and what's the intel counterpart for that? I only saw wifi and bluetooth drivers on the intel ax210 page

[fallow cloak]

You can uninstall it but it's fine if you don't

What OS btw? Most OSes have drivers already for most intel cards, it'll 'just work'

[brazen lark]

I'm hoping it does

But it's an asus tuf entry level laptop with ryzen, so I'm playing it safe and installing the intel drivers beforehand

But I don't find an Ethernet driver from intel like this realtek one

[brazen lark]

And you say it's a choice, so what does that mean?

How would the realtek one work without the card

[fallow cloak]

You're removing the realtek card, right?

[brazen lark]

Yep

I meant how would the realtek ethernet driver work without the realtek card, as I'm replacing with intel

[brazen lark]

Or did you mean that intel would download the required driver itself if I have its wifi driver

[fallow cloak]

It won't, a driver isn't something that's 'running in the background', it allows a bit of hardware to function. Haivng the driver there without the card will be fine, is what I was saying.

[fallow cloak]

The intel card should 'just work', Widnows may download a driver through windows update but it will probably work regardless.

You can just swap and see, if you're missing functionality swap back

[twin pier]

cable color coding?! That is a good idea

[long scarab]

mhm!

[opal pagoda]

do you also have a gigabit ethernet port with realtek controller?

[paper valve]

You don’t

[brazen lark]

Yeah I didn't know the ethernet stuff is separate from the card

Didn't need to uninstall it

[stuck grove]

Mhm, i bought it from store.ui.com

The box didn't seem damp at all, so i'm not sure

[left oriole]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I know how to make a box of networking equipment damp

[stuck grove]

they accepted the RMA, but they aren't covering shipping, that would nearly be the cost of the item

[ornate jungle]

It's fine - tis just a load bearing network cable, being used exactly as designed.

[meager ginkgo]

Out of curiosity, why not a BE200?

[meager ginkgo]

If those are solid core cabling, highly would recommend replacing with stranded patch cables. The "in wall" ethernet cabling is not meant to be terminated into RJ45 plugs

You'd want to use stranded cabling for patch cables, solid has a higher chance of breaking

[long scarab]

its a stranded cable

[meager ginkgo]

Have seen a lot of people either putting RJ45 plugs on in wall cabling or using excess cable to make patch cables 🤣

[brazen lark]

1. Not sure if it would work with my device (asus tuf entry level with ryzen cpu so not all intel cards would work apparently, had to rely on an old thread to make sure this was compatible)

2. Lack of availability here, had to get even the AX210 from a reseller

[meager ginkgo]

Ah point 1 is fair enough, I also have an AMD CPU and had to get a different card for WiFI 7 :/

dumb compatibility with the BE200

[vagrant hare]

are cat 6a cables bigger than cat 6???

[topaz patrol]

Thicker? Yes

[vagrant hare]

ok

thx

[topaz patrol]

Notice how much tighter the twists are

[vagrant hare]

where can i buy the plugs for a jelly flld cable

rj45

[topaz patrol]

What are you trying to do

[vagrant hare]

networking!!!!

[topaz patrol]

That's... Not an answer

https://xyproblem.info/

[vagrant hare]

i do not have that much info the cable is from garland cabls

[topaz patrol]

What are you actually trying to do, are you direct burying cable?

[vagrant hare]

i have the cable i need the plugs RJ45

i can not fined plugs

[topaz patrol]

Jaycar

[vagrant hare]

bro

jaycar is my fav store

[topaz patrol]

Then there you go

[vagrant hare]

ok i will check

online

[topaz patrol]

If you're buying online look elsewhere, Jaycar has "fuck you, lazy cnt" pricing

[vagrant hare]

no sheliding on jaycar plugs:(

[topaz patrol]

We use 1pd at work not sure how good their pricing is for retail

[vagrant hare]

??? looks sus

[topaz patrol]

It's fine, they're owned by Grove

[vagrant hare]

are what contry do you live in?? 1pd it in my contry

[topaz patrol]

Australia

[vagrant hare]

me too!!!!!!

[topaz patrol]

Garland is an aussie brand

[vagrant hare]

i live there

[vagrant hare]

73$ im not buying that hell na

[topaz patrol]

That's for 100, if you're buying them individually expect to pay $1+ a piece

[vagrant hare]

can i friend you you sem ues full

[topaz patrol]

No thanks

[vagrant hare]

oh man

ok bye

[stuck grove]

“you seem useful” is the weirdest “compliment” i’ve heard in a while

[topaz patrol]

lol

[vagrant hare]

im here you know]

[south blade]

Hey, I just got the EAP650 v1 (apparently there's a v1.2, is that why they had these at a discount on Amazon!?) and I thought I would want it in repeater mode but I can't seem to figure out WHERE to pick to set it as repeater...also, can it be wired but repeat on the same SSID I want it to show up as? Or is it repeat on the same SSID it connects to the way it works? I just have the Omada app, I don't have a controller. I have it wired into my ISP router at the corner of the house and installed it in the dining room ceiling closer to the middle of the house. I've got some shenanigans going on really, right now I left them both on the same SSID so don't know if they are fighting each other or if my devices aren't taking advantage of the strongest signal because of this. I also have a router setup as a repeater 200 feet away connecting to the ISPs router which I moved closer to the window as I haven't ran a cable over there yet.

[clear igloo]

Why not remove the other repeater, turn off WiFi on the ISP device, have the Omada AP as the same SSID/PW from the ISP device and just have that handle WiFi?

repeaters are bad, they cut throughput and can only broadcast a signal as good as they get, better (if possible) to have APs with solid roaming instead

[south blade]

200 feet away to another building?

[clear igloo]

So your ISP router is over 200 feet from the repeater and then from that repeater it's even further to the dining room?

[south blade]

No, the repeater I have connecting to the ISP router is 200 feet away getting Internet to the guest house

[clear igloo]

Repeater: Takes a signal and just repeats it (broadcasts it again). If it's 200 feet away from the source it's likely getting pretty bad signal to begin with and anything connected to that likely has a horribly degraded experience/throughput/etc.

AP: Broadcasts a signal directly, if you're hardwired to the ISP device there is no point using it as a repeater in this case. Make that AP the source of your WiFi, turn off the SSID/WiFi on the ISP device, and have any repeater go off that AP's signal which will be stronger and more reliable at minimum.

Right now with the ISP device+repeater and then the AP broadcasting the same wireless names (SSID) it is causing a lot of problems because there isn't any seamless transition or way to tell devices which to connect to

[south blade]

The ISP router is in the middle, the AP is wired to it, but yes using the same SSID

[clear igloo]

I was just about to ask 🙂

Ok, so the sooner you can wire up that guest router to the ISP device and then just flip WiFi off on the ISP device but leave everything else alone the sooner things should settle down. The best solution would be another Omada AP in the guest house but eh

So long as you don't need good roaming between the guest house and your house it's a minimal issue at that point

The "fun" part about wireless devices is they tend to hold onto the first signal they see, most clients don't like to roam even to a stronger signal

[south blade]

Yeah, the guy that setup the fiber traded me a drill bit for like a 300 foot Ethernet cable I was planning on running over there, it's not outdoor rated but it was basically free 🫠

[clear igloo]

Some pipe and you're good to go imo 🙂

[kind pivot]

I'm setting up a wireguard server on my home server

Do I just nat the wireguard port from my isp router to the server? (I have a static ip for my Wan)

Is it secure enough to do that?

[clear igloo]

Yup

You need certificates and everything to connect, far more secure than user/pass methods other VPNs offer by default

[kind pivot]

Yeah I'll be using private/public keys and wireguard ui to ease the setup

[clear igloo]

Then you're good 🙂

[bitter thistle]

There is concept I want to try, but I am stupid when it comes to networking and not sure if this will work, or how it is done.

Using a PXE, it deploys a already installed Windows OS to boot from.

And because of the PXE, it somehow doesn't detect certain pcie cards or something?

[kind pivot]

I've set up wireguard server on my home server
I've successfully connected from my arch pc with the config file thingy and set of private/public keys pairs

But on my android phone .... I just can't connect at all, I really don't think it's the config I've put since it's basically the same from the arch pc modulo the IP being .2 instead of .3 and keys from the client being different

I have a samsung s23, I used the wireguard app, I tried through wifi and 4g

Any ideas on potential problems with android ?

I have proton VPN installed on the android btw.... but it was obviously not activated

My subnet is 10.100.0.0/24

Here is the output of wg.

As you can see the android peer did receive some Bytes but did not handshake.

interface: wg0
  public key: serv pub key
  private key: (hidden)
  listening port: 51820

peer: archlinux pub key
  endpoint: 192.168.1.254:50102
  allowed ips: 10.100.0.3/32
  latest handshake: 9 hours, 36 minutes, 15 seconds ago
  transfer: 14.99 KiB received, 10.39 KiB sent

peer: android pub key
  endpoint: 37.167.151.171:17799
  allowed ips: 10.100.0.2/32
  transfer: 29.20 KiB received, 42.86 KiB sent

[pseudo blade]

Handshaking doesn't happen repeatedly unless you tell it to.
I suspect your issue here is one to do with your "allowed IPs" and your (not shown) interface addresses.

[kind pivot]

10.100.0.x was blocked by android, I switched everything to 10.0.0.x and it works now.... @pseudo blade

[ebon sierra]

Building a home lab,

I have Xfinity Internet with a super old (probably 10 year old) XFi box or whatever it’s called. Do I get a stand alone modem for the home lab, or do I shove that thing in bridge mode and just get a router

[amber urchin]

put that thing in bridge mode and forbidden router on a vm?

[ebon sierra]

I’m thinking of either Cisco or Ubiquity gear to put in it. Still need to put together some kind of server for that and/or hosting game servers

For context my networking knowledge consists of mostly just the stuff I’ve learned to get halfway through CompTIA Network+, I’m doing CCNA right after

Ubiquity gear cost a lot of money though which is a major rip

[clear igloo]

What do you want to do and where do you want to go?
You could do Cisco CML (free or paid versions exist) for studying and then virtualize most things with proxmox as well on a dedicated server and just get a decent switch for your network

[pseudo blade]

+1 on the virtual labbing via CML/EVE-NG/GNS3 if you'd otherwise be buying extra gear just to know how to do stuff for testing.

For game servers, unless you were going to run them on dedicated computers with isolation having fancy network gear probably isn't worth much anyways and even if you are... well it depends on your risk really.
Otherwise... You really want a reasonable router with static routing support handling all traffic into your home and then splitting it off by purpose (including servers). It's much nicer being able to just access your server stuff rather than needing to use a jump host every time, and it's reasonably safe to do so as long as you set up stateful firewall rules to prevent traffic into your "home" subnet. Unless your home network is faster than gigabit it's not very difficult to find products from Ubiquiti/Mikrotik/(or allegedly TP-link, some here are very fond of them) that will serve that purpose well.

[hidden obsidian]

With CML you get the Cisco images for free which is nice so you don't have to risk hunting for them. Other vendors like Juniper provide their images for free which is nice as well. My ISP doesn't use Cisco so I just use EVE-NG

[pseudo blade]

I'm kinda against buying museum piece Cisco gear in general for labs, and somewhat again buying new-enough Cisco gear if your goals can be achieved by virtualisation

[hidden obsidian]

Yeah I agree as well, its neat for a bit to figure out consoling into live gear and all, but its not super worth it especially if you can just do that at your job

Def save money and look into one of the big emulators that Meagus mentioned like CML, EVE-NG, and GNS3

Considering that this is for CCNA, perhaps Packet Tracer would be a better fit though. Since its completely free and perfectly fine for that level

CCNP and above certainly would require an emulator

[pseudo blade]

I was considering mentioning Packet Tracer... but it's not 100% adequate even for CCNA. You can get somewhere around 90% of the way there, but some stuff just doesn't work on the simulator

It's plenty to get started with though!

That said, apparently we're up to Packet Tracer 9 now, maybe it's better

[hidden obsidian]

They've made some improvements. I used PT for my CCNA studies back in 2019 before the big revamp in 2020, its sufficent if you want to save money

And almost ever training provider for CCNA is going to use it since its free

[ebon sierra]

Looking at Cisco (since I’m gonna get CCNA) and Unifi gear, gonna build a server for games that runs Ubuntu Server + GUI with Docker running LinuxGSM

I’m halfway through learning the Network+ topics currently

Kinda wanna make my own router using PFsense or something similar

[opal pagoda]

run proxmox and virtualise the rest

[ebon sierra]

I need to learn more about virtualization. I understand VMs from using them in my Cybersecurity class at least

I have a lot to learn still to get a job in IT anyway

[nimble sable]

I would like to test my Wi-Fi 7 AP. Can someone suggest a device that is capable of 320mhz band, or property MLO please? (I want to test what it does over wifi 6e, therefore I consider a successful test iff link speed crosses 2.4Gbps)

[opal pagoda]

it is quite easy to play with virtualisation with hyperv if you dont have dedicated host, it is what i started with
with any hypervisiors there are couple of basics
basics are networking- you can either pass through a whole network interface or use a virtual switch
resource allocation- chose amount of cores and ram you want to allocate, with dynamic ram allocation you can provide base amount and it will grow as needed, CPU cores can be over-alocated for instance i can allocate 6 cores on 2 vm's while cpu is 8 core and this does not cause issues unless there is high utilisation
OS install - tipically just load up iso into a virtual "optical drive" and setup os as with real hardware

[meager ginkgo]

A lot of WiFi 7 clients still have issues with MLO so that might be tough

I have it disabled on my U7 Pro XG APs because it’s somewhat problematic

[nimble sable]

AND with 320mhz too!

[meager ginkgo]

I have 320mHz enabled on WiFi 7 however and it’s fine

[nimble sable]

oh yea i tried on my P8Pro, and MLO actually makes things worse somehow

[meager ginkgo]

no issues there

[nimble sable]

ok but does your device use all 320mhz?

[meager ginkgo]

My windows laptop claims it connects to 320?

And so does UniFi?

[nimble sable]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ckfrx8lHCQuYKEiu6F-XUFAygobckSdFLTwGj1EpE_Y/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0

2880Mbps link speed?

[meager ginkgo]

I usually get 5400mbps link speed

[nimble sable]

oh dang, yea see thats def something 6e cannot do, what device?

[meager ginkgo]

It’s a Qualcomm QCNCM865 WiFi card

I replaced my Mediatek WiFi card in my ASUS ROG Flow X13 (2023) GV302XI

[nimble sable]

oh nice! thank you thats exactly what i was looking for! now to figure out how i can get it on smthgi own

[meager ginkgo]

that’s my only WiFi 7 device though. I have 2-4 WiFi 6E clients that work fine also

[meager ginkgo]

If your stuff uses newer intel processors I’d recommend the BE200 card instead

I have a Ryzen system so it wasn’t compatible at all

[nimble sable]

oh hmm i have a ryzen desktop and intel chromebook , maybe be200 on the desktop?

[meager ginkgo]

BE200 won’t work at all on Ryzen

you’ll need the Mediatek MT7927 or Qualcomm QCNCM865

[nimble sable]

oh right yea

[meager ginkgo]

The BE200 only works with intel 12th gen or newer also keep in mind.

[nimble sable]

wait so any other processor it just wont work? dang

[meager ginkgo]

It won’t boot I’m pretty sure yeah

There’s very few options on the market for WiFi 7 cards right now

[hidden obsidian]

Give it a few years and it'll come around eventually. Its like when WiFi 6 came out it took a few years before people actually started making compatible devices outside of high end stuff

[nimble sable]

im still waiting to be convinced out of the opinion that 6e shd've been 7 and 7 shd've been 7e

[meager ginkgo]

yeah 6E honestly shouldn’t have existed

they should’ve just went to 7. 6E feels ghetto lmao

[hidden obsidian]

Did 6E do anything other than slightly up the speeds? 6 was legit a significant jump from 5

[meager ginkgo]

All it did iirc was add 6Ghz

7 added MLO and stuff that benefits other bands

[nimble sable]

which is far more immediate of a jump than anything 7 has done so far

it's arguable if 320mhz wide bands will be useful, or even advisable especially on mobile devices and crowded areas

[meager ginkgo]

I just think they shouldn’t have released 6E and included 6Ghz with WiFi 7 instead. Much more appealing

[nimble sable]

MLO is very much in its infancy still and doesn't work as well

[meager ginkgo]

Reminds me of WiFi 5

all WiFi 5 did really was add 5Ghz support

devices that didn’t support 5Ghz would still use WiFi 4 (802.11n) (or that fell back to 2.4ghz)

[nimble sable]

yea 100%. in my case i went from Wifi6 to wifi6e thent o wifi7. and i gotta tell you the jump from Wifi6 to 6e did SO MUCH for me, immediately: i live in a crowded area and the added 6ghz band immediately killed a lot of random issue i'd been having due to congestion. and allowed me to do 160mhz wide bands which was supported even by wifi6 but being 5ghz only has one 160mhz wide band in a lot of regions and that immediately doubled my speed

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah, I was considering upgrading from 6 to 6E but it didn’t seem like a good expense honestly to me

I upgraded to 7 back in March

6Ghz definitely is great and has its benefits but 6E just didn’t feel like a great overall package of stuff. (and it was expensive for what it offered)

Once MLO gets more optimized, 7 is going to be amazing.

[nimble sable]

the jump to 7 doesn't seem worth it to me, lol. or to be more specific: the added benifits of wifi7 won't be realized until a few years down the road, at least a year (and that's assuming i buy new gear). whereas the jump from 6 to 6e was much more immediate because by the time 6e APs came out a lot of phones were supporting 6ghz wifi

[meager ginkgo]

Manufacturers are also being slow to implement WiFi 7 so that makes sense

[nimble sable]

yeap

the BIG thing is 6ghz wifi, so just addin 6e gives that

[meager ginkgo]

I mean I don’t blame them, WiFi 6 came out after WiFi 5 was out for 6+ years- then WiFi 6E after like 2-3 and now 7 after 1-2 lol

probably just having trouble keeping up with the times

[nimble sable]

1-2 really? i thought it was like a few mths

[meager ginkgo]

It could’ve been honestly

It felt like 1-2 years when equipment became more widespread though

[nimble sable]

ok see that makes sense, ppl had a LOT of time to prep for 6ghz and 6e

[nimble sable]

what did wifi6 do over wifi5 i forget?

[meager ginkgo]

It added support for 2.4Ghz, WPA 3, higher modulation and bumped the max data rate

[hidden obsidian]

They added a small channel for IOT devices so it could technically multitask and update the small devices without taking up resources to the devices that needed a bigger bandwidth

[nimble sable]

ooh wpa3 and the modulation was a big one

[meager ginkgo]

WiFi 6 was mostly QoL improvements

[nimble sable]

ooh it also introduced some wifi sleep stuff

[nimble sable]

lol i upgraded to 7 a couple of mths back and i'm like "Well, now what? nothing i have can do 7 properly"

[meager ginkgo]

it’s funny because Apple only shipped WiFi 6E on one iPhone generation then jumped straight to 7

[nimble sable]

im JUST now seeing 6e proliferate the market, here at least

[meager ginkgo]

shows how fast the tech is moving

[hidden obsidian]

OFDMA is the feature in question I was talking about

[nimble sable]

oh is that what that does? does it...actually work as advertised IRL?

[hidden obsidian]

That I'm not sure of in the practical applications since its designed with IOT devices in mind and I'm more of a Routing & Switching guy and don't use IOT stuff at home. Lemme find a vid that explains it. I remember a really good one a while back

[nimble sable]

i mean...they SAY "wifi 7" but like:
limited to 160mhz, 1024QAM (MCS 11 is the max on iphones as per their support page) and...i'm still not sure MLO works as advertised IRL - would you REALLY be able to tell the difference if they just put a 6e chip in there? like functionally

[hidden obsidian]

2 min in is a refresh on what Wifi was on 5 and earlier then gets into the OFDM and OFDMA feature at 7 min in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cmmVEoftEM&t=100s&ab_channel=NetworkChuck

[topaz patrol]

80211n had 5ghz

IEEE 802.11n-2009, or 802.11n, is a wireless-networking standard that uses multiple antennas to increase data rates. The Wi-Fi Alliance has also retroactively labelled the technology for the standard as Wi-Fi 4.[4][5] It standardized support for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO), frame aggregation, and security improvements, among other features, and can be used in the 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz frequency bands.

[ornate jungle]

Also, if you fancy some "light" reading (🤣), peruse this over several cups of coffee one weekend.
https://www.wiisfi.com/

[nimble sable]

but it is uncertain if 4096-QAM can ever be reliably obtained in the real world

How old is this? Just going off of personal experience 4096qam is a heck of a lot more plausible then mlo and 320mhz

[ornate jungle]

The last updated date is right at the top of the page.

[nimble sable]

Wow yea 4096qam is definitely the most practical aspect of WiFi 7 over 6e for mobile devices

[ornate jungle]

Sure, if you can regularly (or ever) achieve 4096 QAM in the real world...
https://www.ruckusnetworks.com/blog/2023/wi-fi-7-extremely-high-throughput-unleash-the-power/

[nimble sable]

I'm just going by the phy speed tbh. As the page says

I often lookup the PHY speed on a client device, and then find that speed in the PHY tables, which reveals a ton of information about Wi-Fi on that client

Based on the alone , 2594 is 2x2, 4096qam

That was taken just now

Again, idk shit shit WiFi, I'm just going by what I'm experiencing in real life

[nova glacier]

This isn't exactly true, but it's definitely broken for the newest AMD platforms. The BE200 and BE202 are supposed to work an all platforms and many have reported it working on AM3, but most people report it failing on AM4 and AM5 (weirdly some report success though). The BE201 definitely does require a Intel platform though, a particularly modern one with Cnvio37

I suspect some cases are shitty rando amazon vendors selling BE201 as a "BE200", but I'm pretty sure it is buggy too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oXrJ4wQ2dQ
It even works on ARM fwiw, so something pretty funky is happening on AMD

[fervent brook]

I know USB DAS is a thing, but what about PCI-e? Could one make a DAS device that attaches to a PC using PCI-e?

[carmine moss]

Why not use external sas at that point? Just a hba with external ports same way disk shelfs work like netapp

[fervent brook]

If my PC crashes or loses power, will the array still continue running?

[carmine moss]

They need external power aka their own psu

[fervent brook]

https://www.michaelstinkerings.org/content/images/size/w2000/2023/03/S7c8d5b45291747b4ae790a5f063c9d022.webp

I wonder if there is an adapter that connects to an m.2 slot and hs 2-4 m.2 nvme slots

We can boot from PCI-e slot drives now, right?

[amber urchin]

a pcie switch or special motherboard firmware would be required so not likely

[carmine moss]

Well more like a lsi card that has hba mode with external ports as that is internal ports. Tho you can use drives over sas always it's more about getting a enclosure for the drives and a PSU for it that is the hassle as the commercial ones are often 16 drives and more

[fervent brook]

What if the m.2 card was powered externally and ran it's own software. And it appeared to the PC as a NVME drive?

or PCI-e card, if those are bootable

Google AI told me, "just spend a thousand dollars on networking"

[carmine moss]

Booting over pci-e and even raid cards been a thing for years

[fervent brook]

That's a relief. I was worried it had been a whole decade

[amber urchin]

now you're talking raid card and those are like 2 grand

[fervent brook]

Most the time when i try to look for a raid card I think I just get a SATA controller, right?

[carmine moss]

Not older ones those are like 50 a 200 if just hdd's

[fervent brook]

the only problem is, im pretty sure im either running out of or already ran out of pcie lanes to use

[carmine moss]

Well most of those are sas controllers tho sata works on sas tho you should get ones that support hba mode aka direct drives if you want zfs

[fervent brook]

I'll probably have to wait until I get a new cpu/mobo

[amber urchin]

If you want a good NAS, just get a sas 12gbps 8 port external hba and a jbod disk shelf. I went about things the hard way and crammed 16 hard drives in a single case and now I have a stack of 10 sata ssds to make a read cache for those hdds. Things would have been so much easier if I just had gone with a 24 bay jbod in the first place.

On the plus side, once it's all set up, i'll finally be able to fully saturate my 25GbE interface. 🙂

At least when there's a cache hit anyway - but with 2.4TB, it should be fairly often. I mean, ideally I'd have 500gb class instead of 250gb class SSDs, but I'm not anywhere near utilizing my full 30TB HDD pool.

[fervent brook]

My BD-RW is sitting on top of my tower and I have some HDDs laying on the side of the tower

The "internal" one might not be a writer. But the "external" one I took apart and attached via SATA is

[amber urchin]

lol I'm actually having to debate a similar thing as well as I have two ODDs and a few HDDs in a another machine that I would rather have hooked up to my main machine.

[fervent brook]

the "external" BD-RW was 3 dollars

I dont even own any writable BD discs...

[carmine moss]

I used to want a lot of hdd's on my machine and use my 4 5.25inch bays tho now I am keep them empty

[fervent brook]

I'd have to set aside some time to do some serious cable management to something as planned out as that

I recently lost a 6TB drive... So im kinda afraid of consolidating too much

I like my BD-RW because the disc spins

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375449815275929622/1337458584610541628/20250207_085045_03.gif

[pseudo blade]

"Keeping one copy of things" strikes again.

Keep two and stick one in Amazon Glacier or the like (or on archival-grade BD-R's if that's your style I guess)

Just make sure to refresh them periodically if the data matters long term - storage left idle can and will eventually degrade

[lone crane]

fun fact the UCG-fiber has a fan

i never knew i never saw or heard ANYONE talk about it but i just felt one of the vents on it just now and was like that is strange feels like a fan put my ear to it and yup it has a fan

OOF, so it was fanless but i got one of em with a fan

the worst part is how hard it is to open as with anything that moves IT WILL BREAK

[silent flax]

i got one of those, but the card itself is very vulnerable due the strain of the connector & cables

[silent flax]

that is called Thunderbolt

[fervent brook]

It was my largest drive...

[fervent brook]

I don't think Thunderbolt is an option for the CPU brand I use

[silent flax]

USB4 (which is Thunderbolt) is an option for both brands current platforms. But you might need a highend board for the connectors

X870 or X870E on AM5 for example

[fervent brook]

Ah...so...nothing i can afford for at least 10 years

I trust a dedicated box more than I trust USB

[molten cradle]

Just had to fist a wall of blue spaghetti to recable a patch panel.

I really am an IT guy now.

[harsh fractal]

4xnvcontainer.exe (SSL_C_Bulk) is stealing my entire bandwidth

still not fixed even after months of ppl reporting it

[opal pagoda]

deny network access to that process in windows firewall

[opal pagoda]

if you are ok with pcie x1 2.0 speeds then mining adapters can be used

[harsh fractal]

i fixed it by task manager filter by internet useage and terminate the nvidia process and so far it didn't come back

[fervent brook]

Is that just a bifucator?

[opal pagoda]

no, it is a pcie switch

shitty one, but still one

[fervent brook]

Like a selector switch, or like some kind of buffering traffic switch?

[opal pagoda]

https://www.asmedia.com.tw/product/556yQ9dSX7gP9Tuf/b7FyQBCxz2URbzg0
most of them use this or something equivilant

[untold idol]

can anyone tell me why Amazon sent me a 3.0 Modem instead of a 3.1 https://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-SURFboard-SB8200-RB-Approved-Spectrum/dp/B07M8BNVSD?sr=8-4 everything here says its a Docsis 3.1 but clearly its not it says on the box 3.0

[opal pagoda]

you have to buy your own modem?

[untold idol]

my current modem router that i was renting from my ISP sucks ass

so im doing this myself and was suggested in this discord to get that modem

[opal pagoda]

does the model number of the device match the advertised model?

[untold idol]

is says the model number on the device was SB8200 V3

[opal pagoda]

yes but what did you recieve?

[untold idol]

thats what i recieved thats what it said on the device itself was the SB8200 V3

on the cardboard box its says DOCIS 3.0 i need DOCIS 3.1 or my internet wont connect to it

[opal pagoda]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CoxCommunications/comments/1838l9m/arris_sb8200_not_connected_to_docsis_31/
just try to use it, it does support it

[untold idol]

this is weird the box says 3.0 but the unit itself says 3.1

[high bronze]

it's possible the vendor probably didn't bother to update the box because money

[untold idol]

ill be back

[nova glacier]

@untold idol that's a low-split modem FYI. If your ISP offers above 40Mbps upload, they'll likely only serve it to mid-split or high-split modems. Arris S33/S34 for example

[fervent brook]

You'll just get lower speeds.

I'm tempted to switch to my 2Gbps modem, but I don't have service over 1Gb and none of my networking equipment is over 1Gb

[nova glacier]

Most plans below 1Gbps will not have a difference in peak performance. However, DOCSIS 3.1 makes better use of the same available bandwidth. Even if your plan is slow enough for 3.0, you'll have higher RF congestion with 3.0 and experience more packet loss and higher latency.

[untold idol]

My plan is on the 600Mbps and i just did a speedtest and i have 696Mbps

and i got everything connecting right

so the modem is working

[nova glacier]

mid/high split is referring to upload speed only

SB8200/S33/S34 all have the same download speed capability on DOCSIS 3.1

[untold idol]

my 600 plan only has 30 upload

[fervent brook]

Makes sense. Is there a large difference in price? I think my initial modem when I moved in I got for about 40-90 dollars. The one I'm using now was 8 dollars, and the multigig ethernet one was about 12 or 16 dollars

https://www.netgear.com/home/wifi/modem-routers/c7800/

[nova glacier]

then you're good to go with that modem. It's not future proof but who knows when cable ISPs will ever bother upgrading to mid/high-split. If your region is monopolized by the ISP, the answer to that is pretty much never

[fervent brook]

This says my current one is 3.1

[untold idol]

i mean my choices are limited its eaither having this internet or using Verizon and i hate using mobile internet providers or starlink but thats to exspensive for me

if i get the 1gig plan i have 50 upload then but its to exspensive for me and found 600 works good

[nova glacier]

Yes, unfortunately. A 3.0 modem can be had for like $40, most decent 3.1 is $80-150. Mid split 3.1 is $170-200. High split 3.1 is $220-300.

[untold idol]

my internet provider does not support 3.0

[nova glacier]

50Mbps upload is probably still low-split anyways, though that's really pushing low-split to extremes

[fervent brook]

how do I know if it's high split?

[nova glacier]

To the cable ISP, that's effectively a monopoly so you probably won't be getting mid/high split anytime soon

[untold idol]

ya but realistically im thinking i dont need 1 gig speeds

[nova glacier]

They will state it. If it's unspecified, it's low-split. Before mid/high-split started coming out, low-split was just the normal

[fervent brook]

I have the CM2000, and when I search for "split", all I get are CM3000. I guess that's why it was 7 dollars

[nova glacier]

If you want to know if your ISP is mid/high split, it's not always clear. Comcast calls it the "next-generation network" and they send an email once your region has been upgraded. You can tell by the upload speed being above 40Mbps (ish, low-split is technically capable of more but few do more than 40). Mid split is usually 100-150Mbps and up to 300Mbps would be high split. Technically peak upload speeds are way higher but it's pretty aspirational like most theoretical peak DOCSIS throughputs are lol

[fervent brook]

Does that mean if you have a low split modem...that you may have spent 80 dollars on...you might just have to buy a new modem one day?

[nova glacier]

If you want the improved upload capability, yep

[fervent brook]

Oh. It's ok to use a low split modem as long as you're ok with the lower speed?

[nova glacier]

yes. It's all still DOCSIS 3.1, they just split more RF bandwidth to the upstream side

[fervent brook]

I don't share movies or games online, so i'm fine with my current upload

[twin pier]

Whrres the modem say on the box 3.0, curious

I have that modem

[nova glacier]

I use cloud storage enough that I wish I had higher upload, but I live in a monopolized region so that probably ain't happening soon

[twin pier]

I guess my ISP isn't rude like Comcast because I get 100 Mbit upload on the sb8200

[nova glacier]

They do it because congestion at higher speeds would create too much packet loss. Your ISP might not make you share that cable with quite as many people as comcast

[steep tartan]

is cat 8 a scam?

in need to run ethernet cable from router in middle floor to basement, cat 8 is a good choice or nah? my isp give me 300 mb

[fervent brook]

300mb? Cat 5 can do that...

[twin pier]

5e unless you want to rely on a cable performing above its spec

which I don't recommend

[random siren]

just run cat 6 like everyone else and switch to fiber if you need 10+Gb

[steep tartan]

still ok for more than 60 +ft

[fervent brook]

How tall are ceilings in his country?

We don't really have basements here. Is there a cement layer on the ground floor?

[twin pier]

Cat6 is good even for 10 gig until like 50m or something

[steep tartan]

i think 9 to 12

[steep tartan]

3 floor home

townhome

[untold idol]

it was a refurbished model and i think they never updated the box

[fervent brook]

I'm gonna have to admit to not knowing what exactly that is...

sounds too fancy for me

also, is the basement included in those "3" floors?

I hear in some places, the ground floor isnt the first floor. So that would be about 4 or 5 floors

Anybody else pay their bill when their internet is acting up because you're mildy paranoid and think they might be messing with you because you haven't paid yet even if it isnt actually "due" yet?

I remember when 256Kbps was fast...

[topaz patrol]

Data limits in 2025

[topaz patrol]

Exactly, the average residential usage is about 550gb, there's no need for data limits

[fervent brook]

Like I said before, I dont up/download movies or games constantly, so im fine

[fervent brook]

Unfortunately, some people ruin it for everyone else. And by "ruin it", i mean "dont affect them at all"

[topaz patrol]

They really don't. High usage from a small subset of customers is not at all a problem

Deliberate abuse is a problem, but that's what fair use policies are for

[fervent brook]

As it is now, the usage is fine

[meager ginkgo]

These are townhomes, basically a bunch of houses put together.

[fervent brook]

Is the whole first floor things that legally have to be on the ground floor(oven, fridge, etc)?

[meager ginkgo]

I don't think there's a legal requirement for appliances afaik

[fervent brook]

Is that why there are 3 floors?

[meager ginkgo]

It's just most common to have it on the "main floor"

[fervent brook]

Yeah. It's probably not an actual law

[pseudo blade]

Wow, $70 USD/month for 25 up -and you get data caps

That's remarkable

[fervent brook]

But if anyone ever tells you they installed a 1/3 size oven or larger on a second floor...run away

[meager ginkgo]

That's not even that bad.. uncle had 1000 mbps down and 20 up with unlimited data addon for total $130/month

[pseudo blade]

Legit you're being beaten on price by NBN co.

[fervent brook]

Non Bean Nutbutter?

[pseudo blade]

Australia govt internet service provider monopoly

[topaz patrol]

Well...

[fervent brook]

108 dollars per month?

[topaz patrol]

The incumbent last mile access network

[pseudo blade]

I do love how their backbone network was broken into over 100 pieces because some private companies cried about not being able to middle-man it

[topaz patrol]

The 121 pois are so stupid

[pseudo blade]

Can Labor hurry up and unfuck that? We owe the leaches no business

[topaz patrol]

But hey, at least infraco gets their $1billion/year for the network buildings

[pseudo blade]

Fuck infraco

Leach Corporation

[topaz patrol]

Plus the buckets of money they'd make on vnni dark fibre and wavelength

[pseudo blade]

They can sell to private enterprise

They don't need a billion dollars a year for substituting actual government infrastructure

It's functionally equivalent to complaining about the government building roads because some toll company owns alternatives and wants all profit

[fervent brook]

What's the statistic on outages caused by dingos?

[meager ginkgo]

😛

[pseudo blade]

They don't really have a high-fiber diet and get their copper from meat

[topaz patrol]

Lumea had a bit of a fuck up last night

Both of the paths to a poi crosses the same road aerially
So all it took was one overheight vehicle in peak hour to take down services off a poi for 5 hours

At least if nbn did it there wouldn't be stupid things like that happening

[pseudo blade]

Oh cool, low-hung overhead critical infrastructure

I'm reminded of the horrors you see pictures of in some countries in east asia with fiber

Anything to save a buck

[topaz patrol]

And these are the people that run half the fucking power grid!

[fervent brook]

Are vehicles or the media more able to affect eachother at night?

[topaz patrol]

Huh?

Both of the “diverse” paths were broken

[fervent brook]

By an overnight truck?

[topaz patrol]

overheight

[fervent brook]

oh!

[topaz patrol]

lol

[fervent brook]

overheight

lol

"wtf does the time of day have to do with it?"

i thought maybe it was colder at night, so the transmission medium was more corporeal or something...

[topaz patrol]

It was peak hour, so that slowed the repair significantly

I think it's just a temporary fix too

[fervent brook]

is "diverse path" like a route?

[topaz patrol]

Yes, it's supposed to be a completely different route that would avoid something like this happening

[fervent brook]

How high would we need to make the towers to create a backup microwave link between Perth and Sydney?

[topaz patrol]

There is one

[fervent brook]

I'm so proud

[topaz patrol]

It's not super high, but PMG had one

Lots of repeaters in the middle of woop woop

[fervent brook]

awww, i wanted huge towers and lasers or something

[topaz patrol]

Adelaide to perth, close enough

[fervent brook]

Northam is in the south because everything is upside down in australia

"cocklebiddy"

[topaz patrol]

https://nickvsnetworking.com/australias-east-west-microwave-link-of-the-1970s/

[fervent brook]

I'll definately read this sometime

Thanks

[topaz patrol]

Nick built the 4g network on norfolk island

[austere bison]

Hi, I built a new PC yesterday and bought a nano-sized AC600 USB Wi-Fi adapter because my motherboard doesn’t have any PCIe slots left. However, when I plug it in, I only get around 12 Mbps download speed. Before using this adapter, the Wi-Fi card in my old PC used to average between 200–300 Mbps.
Do I need to buy a better adapter, or is there something else I can do? The current speeds are so slow that it takes forever to download anything.

[kind pivot]

Just come to France

For 50€ you have unlimited 8Gb/s symmetrical with a router from the isp that is really good, can act as a nas, docker server, wireguard server etc (everything in their os)

For this price you also have access to some streaming services

[topaz patrol]

That is about what I would expect from a low end wifi adapter like that

[pseudo blade]

It's tiny, shoved behind a metal case and also the "600" loosely indicates one spatial stream/antenna and some pretty typical bad marketing to add numbers together in a way they don't actually work. So basically it's awful.

If you gave it absolutely perfect conditions it might do 200. But you're not and if you did it'd defeat the point, use a cable. Presuming this is a desktop, either fill an m.2 e-key slot with an AX210 or buy one in a PCIe carrier board equipped with two more appropriate antennas and you should find better results.

You might be able to lift the old WiFi card depending on how it's installed on the old PC, but it's not like AX210s are expensive.

[austere bison]

So for the pcle 3.0 slot which adapter or WiFi card I’m I supposed to get for it that will give me insane speeds

[lone crane]

Wifi 7 card in the bottom with a wifi 7 AP and you are close will give you insane speeds

[pseudo blade]

Wow, they really did spare all expense on that design, didn't they?

A PCIe x1 Intel AX210. Or a BE200 because wow they're cheap

BE200 is basically a straight upgrade

Something like this maybe - though I will warn you that I have not validated this specific item for being what it's supposed to be and offer no guarantees. https://amzn.asia/d/dHcFQM1

The "BE200" or "AX210" numbers are critical. Do not order AX211 or BE201 cards.

[fervent brook]

And they send you a new cheese and wine in the mail each month.

[pseudo blade]

I think they're slightly cheaper but they have an explicit dependency on CNVio and I don't have much confidence in that working on that board. In fact I'd go as far as saying that I'm confident it doesn't expose that.

[kind pivot]

only thing that is lacking yeah :/

[pseudo blade]

The APs are pricy and not especially worth it right now

6e goes a long way for less money

[topaz patrol]

An ethernet cable goes even further for even less money :P

[pseudo blade]

Yeah if ethernet can be done, do it

I just got my home office wired up last week

[topaz patrol]

I've got mine hidden under the skirting board into my office atm

[pseudo blade]

Zero guesswork. It'll be the speed of the interfaces assuming everything's installed competently with the correct cable type.

[fervent brook]

Kinky

[pseudo blade]

That said I had to tell the cablers last week "No, you may not use Cat 5e and if you do I'll be telling you to tear it out and replace it".

Cat 6A

[fervent brook]

Ask for STP CMR solid core at least 95% copper

[topaz patrol]

I think I've let my cabling registration lapse 🤫

Don't worry acma I definitely wont touch any comms cabling

[pseudo blade]

UTP CCA it is!

[fervent brook]

I'm gonna assume CCA is copper Clad Aluminum

[pseudo blade]

Yes

[fervent brook]

and that you're being sarcastic

[pseudo blade]

Yes

[fervent brook]

ok, just making sure. since some people might not realise copper clad meands it had almost no copper

[pseudo blade]

Copper sounds expensive and we have aluminium at home

[fervent brook]

Where I live...we have copper at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_mining_in_the_United_States#Arizona

[clear igloo]

why have poopy colored copper when you can have shiny colored aluminum???

[opal pagoda]

Just use shiny Silver

[austere bison]

Alr will order it today

[austere bison]

How’s this

[pseudo blade]

Assuming it is what is says on the tin - it's probably fine

No guarantees of course, being a no-name Amazon product. The USB header has to be connected for Bluetooth to work, but the WiFi is PCIe

[austere bison]

if not gauranteed which specific one should i get then

[topaz patrol]

I know Asus sells them, at least then you know you’re getting a proper Intel chip

Same with tplink

Likely for minimal extra cost

[austere bison]

can you send the link really need one 😭😭

[topaz patrol]

What country are you in

[austere bison]

uk

[pseudo blade]

Probably this one https://a.co/d/5V28e3a

Wait

Hang on

That one's an AX200

[austere bison]

IS IT GOOD

or you got any other options

[topaz patrol]

https://amzn.eu/d/62F7mr5

[pseudo blade]

^ highly likely to be fine

[topaz patrol]

If it’s in stock

Amazon won’t tell me since I’m not in the uk

[pseudo blade]

Also saw this one which is the WiFi 7 variant of the MSI one but will likely be more expensive https://a.co/d/2A3Zff5

[topaz patrol]

The Amazon websites are so annoying how all the different regions are seperate websites but still kind of the same…

[pseudo blade]

Oh yes it's completely serviceable but it doesn't do 6ghz WiFi and I was specifically looking for the one that does even though it's probably not strictly essential

Tbh if you ask a bunch of network people what's "good" don't be too surprised if our bar is probably higher than yours :P

[topaz patrol]

Isn’t this a mediatek chipset?

[pseudo blade]

No

BE200 based on Reddit

[topaz patrol]

They may mix and match with availability?

[pseudo blade]

TREACHERY!

Yes you're clearly correct

[topaz patrol]

TP Link does that

It’s stupid

[pseudo blade]

The cheaper vendors are more likely to just tell you what chip they used

[topaz patrol]

They change critical components but don’t rename it or even change the revision number

And even when there is a revision number good luck finding out what revision is in stock at the supplier

Fuck you tp link

[austere bison]

alr imma probably get it cause this is what im going through rn

[pseudo blade]

Just USB tether from your phone on WiFi to tide yourself over lol

[topaz patrol]

Provided you have an android

:(

[pseudo blade]

I was under the impression iPhones could also do it

[topaz patrol]

Nope, only from mobile data

[pseudo blade]

Have I been decieved a second time?