networking

[topaz patrol]

Cudy might have a software controller, but not sure

[dull mirage]

So if I understand it right. There is no way to make them mesh unless I have a controller?

[topaz patrol]

Generally "mesh" means wireless backhaul

[dull mirage]

Yup, thats why i am asking what can i do if i have a wired one

[topaz patrol]

Roaming between APs is determined by the clients ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dull mirage]

So just leave it and not bother with enabling mesh? Seems a bit off

I mean it aint that bad, but since they claim to have that function i figured why not utilize it... If it gives any benefits

[topaz patrol]

I don't think they do

I can't find anything to say that those APs have "mesh" capability

[topaz patrol]

lol nevermind. On the box but not the product page

[dull mirage]

I mean there is a "sort" od mention.. But not much said. And the overly simple manual does not help.

[worn gate]

That's fair, the raspi was basically just gonna run a nas

The mini pc would just be whatever I can get my hands on at my school's surplus, which is generally hp stuff

[stoic vortex]

any mtu fragmentation happening?

[pseudo blade]

I'd personally spend about the same amount on a used office PC and some extra RAM and flash storage

Mini PC also works

10th gen dell Optiplexes will take 128GB RAM, up to 8 cores and multiple NVMe SSDs, PCIe card slots...

It's actually what my workplace gives us for testing stuff

[pseudo blade]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/nas/synology-requires-self-branded-drives-for-some-consumer-nas-systems-drops-full-functionality-and-support-for-third-party-hdds

[frosty stone]

Can this company please just die already

[proud coyote]

Ohh yeah please man. Synology is such a $H!T company. Who do they think they are? Apple? At this point, somebody gotta create a good system that runs on TrueNAS Scale or the like and make it easy to maintain for people. Or, recommend to the HexOS developers to create systems that compete with Synology, as sort of an extra revenue stream

[topaz patrol]

Did NetApp acquire Synology?

[thin hedge]

Yee please

[proud coyote]

Like I am gonna give every person a hard time for getting a Synology box, and have been for ever since I knew what Synology is

[thin hedge]

It’s so shit, I have an old synology that doesn’t boot

[proud coyote]

Ohh RIP. Well it's so integrated, you will never be able to repair it

[thin hedge]

I got it for free. So lol

I tried looking if anyone installled Linux onto it

[proud coyote]

Hahaha

Might be possible honestly

Might be that not everything works as expected, but a lot will probably work

[opal pagoda]

probably affected with that bug that killed embeded intel cpus over time

[dull mirage]

Turns out we are both blind
https://media.depstr.eu/u/iqaWGX.png

[shut wharf]

Hey, just wondering if someone could help me out please?
I am renovating a 7 Bed hotel and the people in charge want smart Tvs and fast wifi throughout the building.
I've done a rough diagram of everything and how it would be wired up, i just don't know what network switches to get they Don't need to be Poe, but i need a decently fast link between the two switches so it doesn't become a bottleneck.
Up to 18 people can stay in the building at once so there's a lot of phones/laptops etc.
(any advice is much appriciated)

[worn gate]

Something like a Ubiquiti Pro 24 would probably be just fine

between the two switches you should be able to run port aggregation aswell, to get 2gb between them I believe take this from someone who is in school studying networking, and not someone who has really any experience actually doing it outside of school

[shut wharf]

its much appreciated, im a Carpenter by trade whilst im a little tech savvy this is out of my leauge

[worn gate]

I assume they have someone else who would actually come in and set this all up?

[shut wharf]

you would think that... but no its now my job

[worn gate]

I wish you the best of luck, charge a lot ig

[shut wharf]

thank you! yepp i will do

[worn gate]

enjoy, its definitely a rabbit hole, most of my experience is using cisco equipment, but thats probably way to expensive for this

[shut wharf]

yeah. to be honest i have a really tight budget for it. so its finding everything at the right price whilst still doing what i need

[worn gate]

what I suggested is about $800 for both of them

or a non pro is $225 per switch

[shut wharf]

tbh 900 quid is my budget

for everything including cctv stuff

ive figured out everything else just trying to find the right switch since theres so many

[worn gate]

unless I am missing something, there is no reason you need two switches, a longer ethernet cable is cheaper then a switch, especially because this doesn't sound very big

and would free up a decent bit of budget for cctv

still probably not enough budget, but some

[shut wharf]

problem is more so running the cables up in the walls as we dont have anywhere to really run all the cables hense wanting another switch

its a 4 story building thats 100 years old

[worn gate]

so this renovation isn't going down to the studs, or whatever it may be called there?

[shut wharf]

well it did yes we took it back to brick, but we found out about all this stuff after we reboarded all the walls on the ground floor which is where the router is, and its easier to run just 2 cables up to another switch

honesttly this job is just a mess of them adding things on that we needed to be told about at the very start

im just trying to make do with what i got

[worn gate]

this sounds about right for renos lol, realistically, whatever you give them for a network won't be enough im sure

[shut wharf]

oh i know makes you feel anybetter the bought a residential router yk one that can handle 4 people and a couple other electronics

i think its got 1gb/s uplink somin along those lines

[forest stream]

anyone have recommendations for good brands of ethernet cables? looking for 100ft indoor in particular

[twin pier]

because I'm lazy I often just go to amazon and get cable matters or monoprice or something

As long as it's not copper clad aluminum it should be the same deal

[regal plover]

I'm currently using TP-Link OneMesh with some repeaters, hoping to get better internet speeds throughout my home. My internet plan is faster than what I'm getting — I noticed that the Ethernet ports on the repeaters are limited to 100 Mbps, not Gigabit (1 Gbps).

Even on Wi-Fi, the speeds are about the same (around 100 Mbps).

If I upgrade to better repeaters (with Gigabit ports and better Wi-Fi), do you think I'll be able to get closer to my full internet speed? I know I probably won’t get 100% of it, but I’d like to get as close as possible i am paying for 600 down and 20 up i get 80 down and 20 up.

i cant run ethernet yet soon maybe middle of next year this is for now i have 2 optiplex and my gaming pc connected to the repeater if i need faster speed i will connect a raspi 4b 8gb ram to my router directly and run what i need on there like my vpn

[wooden fiber]

What do you guys think of my mockup home server build? This is what I have drawn up so far

[twin pier]

personally I just use OOB management instead of having a keyboard and display at the rack, I think that stuff is expensive?

[topaz patrol]

Yeah that's a waste of space + power imo

[worn gate]

update, im just incredibly stupid in many ways, I was downloading the IOSv appliance off of GNS3's website, which does require a vm, but you can also specify what hardware you want and legally acquire the files for just that hardware and software version

[blazing karma]

Bless supplier discount, got this flex XG for 101$ shipped

[long scarab]

thought this was interesting enough to share
https://coveryourtracks.eff.org

[sly compass]

I need a router for a site, need vpn and i have two ports open. I have a RB760iGS mikrotik hex s on another site. I like it. Should i pick that one or something else?

[pseudo blade]

Want anything new from it for existing one doesn't offer? The deal with the hEX S is that the CPU's not capable of full firewall+NAT functionality at gigabit, you have to use fasttrack, nor is it capable of VPN at that speed

OTOH, if you don't care, well... why not.
You might want to look at the hEX Refresh though

[sly compass]

It’s a special kind of place. Static ip only 10/10mbit. But we got open ports. Really i like to run something like crowdsec so docker

[pseudo blade]

Hex S can't do containers

The ARM64 devices can, but honestly it's to my understanding that it kinda sucks

I tried to get it to work when they announced it and it was a noncompliant mess

[opal pagoda]

do you have servers onsite?

[pseudo blade]

If not, and your needs are slight, use a Pi or whatever

Leave the router duties to the router, everything else...

Well I've coerced Mikrotik devices into many horrible things but I wouldn't rush to recommend that you do any of what I did lol

Made a highly restricted data API for an Android app using Mikrotik RouterOS script and DNS :p

Customer wanted specific information you can't otherwise grant without admin permissions, OK guess I'll do something truly horrible

[opal pagoda]

yikes

[pseudo blade]

If I'd had MIPS/MMIPS containers I'd just have written a really tiny proxy or webserver

But no, and no suitable devices existed and this thing goes in vehicles so I can't make them install them a ton of shit just for that soooooo...

[opal pagoda]

smart fog with esp32's

[pseudo blade]

No

I was tempted to add an ESP8266/32 but I couldn't justify the complexity nor regulatory certification for adding more shit to the box

No smart fog/whatever needed, it'd have done nothing I needed

[opal pagoda]

you couldnt do a raspi or a mini pc in a box?

[pseudo blade]

Absolutely not

[opal pagoda]

interesting requirements

[pseudo blade]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly compass]

I usually have but this site is especially small and yes/no but nothing to run stuff. But maybe in the future. I know kind of disappointed in hex s

[sly compass]

Yes i should

[pseudo blade]

It'd have been nice but yeah they excluded all MIPS/MMIPS routers

[sly compass]

Is hex refresh better?

[pseudo blade]

Well for one it's ARM

[sly compass]

Ah

So it will run some containers then

[pseudo blade]

But it's not ARM64

[sly compass]

Haha oh

Then sticking to hex s would be smarter

More power

[opal pagoda]

https://mikrotik.com/product/rb5009ug_s_in

why not use this

[pseudo blade]

Actually no

And it supports containers

But very limited memory

[pseudo blade]

Well it's pricy and overkill for one

[sly compass]

Well weird refresh is cheaper

[sly compass]

I have another site and this is probably what i get, honestly i could just get two of those but meh

[opal pagoda]

yea i am kinda desensitised to hardware costs

[pseudo blade]

I'm still figuring out what I want for my lab soon, apparently I'm finally getting FTTP and can go gigabit, hopefully multigigabit at the end of this year

I'm using a hEX as my primary router

A very gross hack for my modem and WiFi where they're both the same device but the hEX does routing

It'll do 200mbps without fast path, and gigabit with it, at cost of few nice things for firewalling

[pseudo blade]

800mhz MIPS isn't fast by most standards

[pseudo blade]

Unfortunately, routers that can do 2.5gbe LAN and WAN with ideally at least two ports at that speed for LAN, with good firmware and a reasonable price is far, far too many things to ask yet

Heck they're a challenging find at any price

[opal pagoda]

that is why many enthusiasts use opnsense/pfsense

[lone crane]

ye

[wooden fiber]

Explain why you think it is a waste of space + power

[lone crane]

probs screen and keyboard

[opal pagoda]

well you havent speced anything out and it very well could be old gen server stuff which is very power hungry

[lone crane]

that too

[opal pagoda]

that firewall will cost a arm and a kidney as well

[wooden fiber]

my "servers" (NAS) don't utilize that much power

[lone crane]

specs

[wooden fiber]

You do know that you can buy decent hardware for cheap, and load different software on it

[wooden fiber]

Here you go, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NB9KGJ

I am also swapping out the case for a server chassis

[opal pagoda]

i do know that my DC takes about 6kw

[wooden fiber]

And the estimated wattage is if it is running full power non-stop, that is how pcpartpicker evaluates, but my NAS runs at 1-5% utilization 99% of the time

[opal pagoda]

well sure but with ips and ML malvare detection will require something like fortigate vm and fortisandbox which also cost like a arm and a leg

i am not aware of open source IPS with ML malvare detection

[wooden fiber]

https://suricata.io/
Here you go, they are well known in the cyber security industry

[sly compass]

I know, at my homelab i have an 8700k @ 4.9Ghz and 1080ti and it barely keep up as router when i do 10gbit.

But on these sites there where little traffic

[lone crane]

Due to the 9900x being dual ccd and also just amds design it's not really that efficient

[sly compass]

What draws 6kw?

[opal pagoda]

4x servers, 1x netapp 2x nexus 9k 2x forti 200f 2x forti 100f, 2x cisco 48y4c, 2x sip gw and cooling for it

[wooden fiber]

Sounds a little overkill, no?

[opal pagoda]

its for prod, not at my house

[sly compass]

Nice, fortinet with backdoors found each day 😅

[wooden fiber]

Mine is for at my house and is being stored in my bedroom

[sly compass]

I don’t trust fortinet a bit

[lone crane]

What do you do that needs a dedicated firewall?

[opal pagoda]

better it be found and disclosed compared to found and undisclosed

[sly compass]

Yes most companies find stuff and report but fortinet just let others find it

https://thehackernews.com/2025/04/fortinet-warns-attackers-retain.html?m=1

https://thehackernews.com/2025/04/fortinet-urges-fortiswitch-upgrades-to.html?m=1

https://thehackernews.com/2023/03/chinese-hackers-exploit-fortinet-zero.html?m=1

I don’t need to say more

[opal pagoda]

i am not affected by any of those

[wooden fiber]

for one, I get malware attacks from my family's devices relatively frequent and my mother works in the health care industry, so she accesses important medical data. And I take my network security seriously

[lone crane]

Have you tried to teach them not to get malware

Modern equipment is genuinely good at not getting hacked unless you are dumb

[sly compass]

Im dumb so i need the best idiot proof stuff

[lone crane]

I mean clicking on malware links

[sly compass]

Ooof https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=partner-pub-7983783048239650:3179771210&q=https://thehackernews.com/2025/01/13000-mikrotik-routers-hijacked-by.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiw-Kj3gOKMAxV2gP0HHYIQJ0wQFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw1l-oqPGz1OGpXE-o3liKR8

[opal pagoda]

i would hope that she has a corporate device that corporate IT takes care of

[wooden fiber]

Yes I have, it doesn't work by explaining to my dad. Also what is stopping malware from jumping from device to device

[lone crane]

Like my asus router automatically blocks known malware sites

[wooden fiber]

yes

[lone crane]

Just make a dedicated subnet for him

Eh vlan

[opal pagoda]

then whats the problem, its up to them to defend the castle
if properly designed you should have 0 influence of security on that device

[lone crane]

Tbh unless he requires access to anything at home like a server just make a dedicated vlan for him

[opal pagoda]

you could make a vlan and allow ports on FW for access to just the stuff he needs

[lone crane]

Eh true

[wooden fiber]

And my router blocks the majority of the malicious attacks but there is only a certain amount of blocking that a router can do

[lone crane]

A firewall will not block malware

Well for that device and up to how it's configured will not block malware from jumping

[opal pagoda]

not true in entiety
yesterday i did fortinet fast track where it was task to do exactly that

[lone crane]

Eh I'm not expirenced enough to speak much on this

[opal pagoda]

in challenge section first i had to breach the network and compromise the machine

then defend the network against the attack

[lone crane]

wouldn't all network traffic need to go trough the firewall

[wooden fiber]

Yes it would with software IPS/IDS like Zeek, Suricata, Snort, and Wazah and others like them

[opal pagoda]

best case yes, in most cases it is between two subnets/vlans

[sly compass]

Idk if i already posted this. But this was super weird. 24hours of just trying

[cunning lion]

Aren't most Home based NAS's running off of ARM or lowend X86_64 CPUS?

[silent flax]

if you mean QNAP and Synology, then yes

[cunning lion]

Who was the BIG name in NAs's about 10 years or so ago?

[silent flax]

those run Realtek SoC usually, then usually the step up is J4000 series Atoms

[cunning lion]

The one that begins with D

[silent flax]

it as always Synology and QNAP

you probably mean D-Link, but meh, not a big name

then the step up from J4000 series atoms is the N100/N300 based NASes or Ryzen embedded ones

[cunning lion]

It was another "backup" or something

[silent flax]

but by the time we reach Ryzen CPUs, we talk about $1000+ units

[silent flax]

Drobo ? was never big, just mac centric

[cunning lion]

yeah that name

I kept running into ads a plenty for Drobo and the one place I was working with was using it a lot

Mac being it was likely why

GeekBeat was it and yeah

[opal pagoda]

Drobos are mostly DAS so no real cpus in them

[lone crane]

well if it has a RJ45 port its a NAS

but you really do not need any real cpu to run a NAS

people mostly just have issues with mixing server and NAS

[opal pagoda]

not all rj45 are ethernet, some are console ports, some are sensor ports

[lone crane]

ok you got me there

RJ45 NETWORKING port

but its always nice to have a ok cpu in a NAS but when buying a off the shelf NAS from synology or something you are mostly buying suftware and a backplane

[opal pagoda]

do you know what a drobo is?
3 of them were nas, other were DAS
as in basicaly a external drive

[lone crane]

thunderbolt i like but USB meh

xd https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1433ddy/drobo_is_officially_done_as_the_company_moves/

[cunning lion]

Yeah last time I heard about Drobo was mid 2010s really lol

[wet wigeon]

so im gonna hook up my server to 10gbe, im just wondering which NIC i should get
either sfp or rj45 doesnt matter

was considering those intel cards but i've heard some reliability issues

[twin pier]

get an rj45 one if youre gonna use ethernet, sfp if youre gonna use sfp

depends on what ends you have on your switch, technically sfp might be cheaper but if you then need to buy an rj45 transciever that erases the cost savings

[long scarab]

got a new sicso switch :3

[wet wigeon]

i already have a rj45 transceiver that i use for my desktop to free up one of my 2.5gbps ports on my switch but i can repurpose it
i also have a free sfp port on my router so it doesn't really matter

[twin pier]

you could try the sfp nic

[wet wigeon]

ill check prices

[twin pier]

yeah probably just buy whatever's cheaper

[full oak]

Sicso what an original name

[silent flax]

they bankrupted post-covid

[pseudo blade]

Seems they couldn't get stuff made for literal years for one reason or another

It was a shit time to be selling stuff with semiconductors in it, a company I worked for basically had to pivot from hardware to SaaS and apps to answer new customers

[frosty stone]

When you make an order over the phone...

[opal pagoda]

If you can use sfp+ use it as it uses significantly less power than 10g base t (Rj45)
Especially if you are whithin 5m so you can use passive DAC cabling

[wet wigeon]

Yeah I saw this, looks pretty good from my end

[opal pagoda]

get mellanox connectx 3 or 4

that chipset is old and inefficient, it is also clearly refurbished and soldered onto a new pcb

[topaz patrol]

Omada controller clustering

[wet wigeon]

that isnt really a concern

[opal pagoda]

Does this require a hw controller?

[topaz patrol]

I believe it’s software controller only

Currently we’re running 3 seperate controllers so it’ll be interesting to see how they cluster

Each instance of the controller usually starts going bad over a couple hundred devices. Hopefully clustering removes that problem

[opal pagoda]

Does it matter what kind of device it is? Router, switch ap

[topaz patrol]

What do you mean?

I’ve never had a controller of just APs or just Gateways before haha

[opal pagoda]

I guess 100 switches would be easier to manage vs 100 ap's

[topaz patrol]

Likely, yes. I would assume if you used their built in RADIUS it’d be harder for the controller too

[opal pagoda]

Yup

[topaz patrol]

I’m not really sure who their built in RADIUS is for… seems weird to me

[crisp thorn]

ip route add default via 10.20.40.1 dev wg0 table wgtable
ip rule add from 10.20.40.3 lookup wgtable

is this possible on windows?

[peak cloak]

probobly

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/route_ws2008

[crisp thorn]

route is not capable of that

[pseudo blade]

I don't think you can do VRF on Windows

The miscomprehensions I'm seeing online around that are comical actually

So I'm saying "no", "the mere concept is beyond the comprehension of Microsoft sysadmins"

[silent flax]

plus i think there aren't even drivers for the X520 in W11. ConnectX-3 has them

[pseudo blade]

Reddit indicates the x520 works on W11 if you use the Intel Ethernet Adapter Complete Driver pack or W10 drivers

[lone crane]

ITS BACK IN STOCK HOLY SHIY

[topaz patrol]

How does ubiquiti manage to be so shit at logistics?

[lone crane]

Tbf massive amount og demand too

But i dono

[topaz patrol]

That is no excuse

They know their size

[frosty stone]

I mean it is an excuse

Have you seen the shortages of things?

And how much of a gamble it can be to just order a bunch of something all at once at one fixed price right now?

[topaz patrol]

This is very much an ongoing thing

[frosty stone]

And so have shortages

For years now

[topaz patrol]

No other networking vendor has such massive supply issues

Except for maybe Cambium’s vapourware

[lone crane]

only took like 3 months

https://tenor.com/view/meow-dancing-cat-cat-dancing-meow-meow-meow-gif-14608759981751543562

[clear igloo]

DELAYED!
😛

[lone crane]

they claim it will only take 3 days

[clear igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-one-eternity-later-gif-7900643

[weary marsh]

hey guys

I have a huawei fast 5364 (i think) router but when I connect in to my main router through wan port it mostly doesn’t work

How to fix?

I have a slightly older one that always work though

Maybe firmware but I’m not sure the new one will work with old firmware

And how to merge the two lans into one?

[pseudo blade]

Likely Sagemcom, not Huawei

[pseudo blade]

The firmware on them's frankly e-waste and I don't trust them to keep state.

Anyways the way to do what you ask (I presume you just want it to do WiFi for you where there's not much signal) is as follows:

1. Log into the web UI of the Sagemcom router. Give it a static IP from the network of your "main" router and exclude it from DHCP range on your main router so you can manage it later.

2. Disable DHCP for LAN on the Sagemcom router, possibly under a "LAN" config category. [This step is very important as otherwise your devices may lose internet connectivity.]

3. Connect your main router's LAN port to the Sagemcom's LAN port, rather than its WAN port. This will bridge the two networks together into one.

If you have questions about any of this, ask in #1027757333117415424

Please note that you won't get any nice functionality like WiFi Fast Transition (Roaming between Access Points without dropouts and other flakiness).

Buying actual access points or an Ethernet-backed Mesh Router setup would work a lot better but if money's tight what can you do, eh?

[weary marsh]

Thanks

[long oyster]

can someone tell me why a file that is 7.7gb takes faster to download than a file thats 4.4??

[ornate jungle]

Depends on the source server that's delivering the file to your computer... and everything else that could impact networking.

[twin pier]

the 7.7 gb file downloaded at a faster rate than the 4.4 one, obviously

as for why, who knows without more info

[long oyster]

thanks

[long oyster]

ik that the speed could also be drastically impacted based on where youre downloading to, for example a file would download slower on a hdd than a ssd

[twin pier]

can also be impacted by random things in the middle of the line, such as connection stability

[long oyster]

yh

[pseudo blade]

Can someone tell me why a 7.7 kilometer drive was faster than a 4.4 kilometer one?

[long oyster]

dawg what

[long oyster]

sorry that i dont speak in freedom units per hamburger💔🥀

[twin pier]

Can someone tell me why a 7.7 mile drive was faster than a 4.4 mile one?

[long oyster]

bro

[topaz patrol]

Kilometers are in SI...

[twin pier]

oh wait you said dont

that doesnt make any sense then because the original thing was km

bro uses yards to measure distance

[long oyster]

im did predictioned

[long oyster]

no the origional question was gigabytes

[twin pier]

i mean this

[long oyster]

thats not the original

one

[twin pier]

thats the one you replied to though

[long oyster]

im confused now

[pseudo blade]

I don't speak stupid either so I guess we're at an impasse

Oh well

[long oyster]

Fr

[meager vine]

I'm trying to use my phone as my internet connection through a charging cable. When I plug it in, it seems to connect, and the wired connection icon shows up. But when I try to actually use the internet through the cable, it doesn't work.
If I try connecting without the cable just using Wi-Fi it also doesn’t work, even though the phone is charging.
However, if I completely unplug the phone and only use it as a hotspot, then it works. But doing that drains my battery really fast because the hotspot makes the phone heat up a lot.

[pseudo blade]

I've found that certain phones just do that over RNDIS unfortunately, including some of the recent Samsung Galaxy S series models. Annoyed me a lot when I moved from my Note 9 to several newer handsets and consistently found that it basically didn't work without multiple retries.

[stuck grove]

How do i check NIC compatibility with truenas?

I have the following NIC, and apparently it isn't compatible since it isn't showing up,
https://www.amazon.com/10Gtek-E10G41BTDAG1P5-Ethernet-Converged-X520-DA1/dp/B01LZRSQM9

the NIC works perfectly fine on my windows machine, so ik the nic itself works

[pseudo blade]

1. Identify the chipset used by your card.
2. Determine how/if support is present in the underlying OS (Core=FreeBSD,Scale=Linux)
3. Build/load a relevant driver if your issue isn't simpler, like a misconfiguration.

[stuck grove]

How would i go about identifying a misconfiguration?

[pseudo blade]

Depends on the operating system, but it'll involve system logs either way.

Can't skip step 2 lol

[stuck grove]

It's truenas scale

Looks like it should be compatible with linux

How would i got about loading the driver?

[lone crane]

does it show up in lspci

[stuck grove]

yes

[lone crane]

are you doing 10gig?

on both ends

[stuck grove]

i just realized i'm a dumbass, the UDM SE POE+ ports are only gigabit

[topaz patrol]

lol

[lone crane]

one thing i have seen with a lot of things like this at least heard is that its kinda just 10gig only

lower it aint gonna do

[lone crane]

wait are you doing rj45 on the sfp+ port for the server

[stuck grove]

no

[lone crane]

the sfp+ ports on the UDM is 10gig

[stuck grove]

10g fiber link from the UDM SE to a 10g/2.5g switch, then truenas machine to the 10g port on the 10g/2.5g switch

[lone crane]

me so happe, me do 10gig too

[lone crane]

does the switch have internet

[stuck grove]

what

[lone crane]

the 2.5/10g switch

[topaz patrol]

I think that message may have got lost in translation

[stuck grove]

truenas box is working fine at 10GbE, (ignore UI thinking it's proxmox, it's schizo)

and yes, the rack 10g/2.5g switch has internet

[lone crane]

me thinking is gone now, ok so what is having issues

is it just the 10gig sfp+ intel card not showing up in the network tab in truenas scale

[stuck grove]

Just me being a dumbass thinking my link from the UDM SE to my desktop was 2.5g, but it was actually 1g

[lone crane]

and also no worke

[lone crane]

aaa ok

[stuck grove]

so when i saw 1g i thought "oh the truenas box must only be running 1g"

[lone crane]

my little UCG box has 4 2.5 ports and 2 sfp+ with a rj45 10gig port :3

[stuck grove]

looks like my next purchase will be a pro max 16 poe

[lone crane]

sounds like a iphone

[stuck grove]

yes, yes it does

but it has 2.5g PoE ports, and 2 10g SFP+ ports

[lone crane]

i should grab a ubiquiti AP in the near future so i get to test the 2.5gig PoE+ port on the UCG-fiber

[lone crane]

etherlighting

it can even do layer 3 shit

[stuck grove]

https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-switching/products/usw-pro-xg-10-poe
holy shit, 10 10GbE PoE+++ ports

[lone crane]

hmm makes the 2 10SFP+ ports seem strange

i would have imagined at least sfp28

[topaz patrol]

Those babies would run nice and toasty

[stuck grove]

yeah defo shoulda been 40g SFP28 ports

[stuck grove]

that's what the active cooling is for

[pseudo blade]

Heads up: not all old 10 gig equipment will do 2.5

[stuck grove]

that's the UDM SE's problem

[lone crane]

dat qsfp+

[stuck grove]

oh i'm dumb, 25g is SFP28

[lone crane]

wonder why they did not name it sfp25

[stuck grove]

28 pins i'd imagine

[pseudo blade]

I have checked for you - X520 won't do it

I didn't think so

But there you go

[stuck grove]

Doesn't matter anyways, that's the UDM SE's problem

it has full fat 10GbE to the UDM SE, then the UDM SE connects to the office switch, then the office switch connects to my PC

[wet wigeon]

got myself a connectx-3 dual port card

and a aqc113 card for my desktop

10gbps networking time

unifi my beloved

[lone crane]

my stuff will look like that soon enough

[topaz patrol]

Lol mine looks stupid

[gaunt sparrow]

is this network simulation?

[twin pier]

that's the automatic map generated by unifi controller

[violet kiln]

sonos always makes mine upset lol

[lone crane]

holy hell

das is a lot of sonos

if im getting anything it will be hard wired

[rocky badge]

lol unifi finally figured it out

So nice it uses LLDP from other devices now as well

[stuck grove]

Can i add more drives to an existing truenas pool without erasing the data of the drives in that pool

like i have a pool with 1 drive in it, but i’m getting two more identical drives that i want to add to that pool, with 1 being redundant, so raidz1, can i do that without wiping the data on the one drive

or do i need to move the data off of it temporarily, then put it back once i’ve updated the pool

[violet kiln]

my sonos are mostly hardwired, they still get upset though

have 24 speakers i think

[tight pecan]

This

[lone crane]

Vdev

Well one drive pools is no good for a reason

Soo yes da move it is but then later on after that vdev

[cinder plank]

I'm getting FTTP, so far I've been limited by the vdsl line speed, but now I'm going to be artificially limited. How does this work?
I think it is going to use pppoe and from what I understand the limiting is done on the client end (on my router) but the limit speed is negotiated as part of the pppoe handshake. Is this accurate?

[topaz patrol]

No

Well kind of, but not really.

[cinder plank]

Please can you explain how the limit works on the client side?

[topaz patrol]

It doesn’t

If you think you’re going to “get around” it, you aren’t

[cinder plank]

wdym?

how does the limiting work?

[topaz patrol]

The rate limiting is done on your ISPs equipment (at the head end)

[cinder plank]

how does the limiting occur? where are packets dropped?

[topaz patrol]

That would depend on the service providers network. They may police the traffic, they may shape the traffic

In the end, it’s (mostly) all the same to you

[cinder plank]

Simplistically how does this work... How does my computer know how fast to output the 1's and 0's so they all get to where they are going?

[topaz patrol]

Simplistically, it’s magic :p

I don’t have the knowledge to properly answer your question, and I’m not exactly sure what you want to know

[topaz patrol]

This is “built in” to TCP

As far as your computer is concerned, your internet connection cannot physically go any faster

Same situation as with xDSL

[shadow bluff]

many instances it depends entirely upon your computer hardware. your computer doesnt actually know how fast it is going, it knows how fast it can go though

perhaps what you meant by "fast" here is process time?

[cinder plank]

From my understanding the limiting was done on the client side equipment, but could also be enforced by the isp equipment ("head end") (but non always since it would add additional hardware cost). I'm thinking that the pppoe communicates to the router the Service Plan speed then the router is in charge of telling the devices on the network to stop and start or retry sending packets in a manner that allows it to smoothly communicate on the WAN side at the agreed appon speed.

What I am trying to understand is if the pppoe config could be modified after the setup handshake to trick the router into operating at a faster speed (to test if the ISP implements "head end" speed enforcement).

[shadow bluff]

no it cannot, pppoe is done on the ISP side instead. the only thing that a client does is entering credentials > handshake > authentication > connect

if your isp has limit your bandwidth to 1gb via your pppoe credentials, you cannot change any configuration remotely if at all

except if your isp uses some janky router lmao

[topaz patrol]

Ideally you should implement some form of QoS, as most ISPs will just police traffic.

And no, you are not going to get around this

[cinder plank]

I don't mean the ISP configured setup. I mean that once the router recives the config then that is stored somewhere in memeory for it to reference, this is what i am talking about modifying (obviously it isn't supposed to be modified/modifiable)

[topaz patrol]

Your router does not receive any config

[shadow bluff]

^

[topaz patrol]

(Ignoring CWMP)

[shadow bluff]

the only thing that a client side router does is... route..

with the config that you gave it to...

[topaz patrol]

Not even most of the time! Just NAT

[shadow bluff]

this ^

[cinder plank]

So is the limiting on a per packet basis... I.e. the router send a packet out to the ISP, if it gets a response that the packet made it it knows to go faster and if it doesn't make it it knows to slow down?

[shadow bluff]

uh, it is on bandwidth basis is the term youre probably looking for

say your port is capable of pushing 10gbps, but your isp limits your port to only push 500mbps, you'll be bound only to that speed and if you try going further, port will just throttle

[cinder plank]

and that throttling is only ever done on the head-end? I.e. the router is always trying to send packets at 10gbps?

[shadow bluff]

if you try to go beyond your limit, ISP has port security in place to not allow it

[shadow bluff]

throthling is always done on the head-end, yes.
and home router would almost never reach 10gb lol

what you do instead is receive/send whatever packet you try to pull, at the limit your isp gives you

essentially client side does not have control to how fast can they send

EXCEPT! if you have your own isp service

which is practically impossible

[cinder plank]

how isn't it always in a stat of trying to go faster than 500mbs?

[shadow bluff]

meaning?

[cinder plank]

you said "if" you try to go beyond your limit the head-end throttles. But if the limit is imposed by said throttling why isn't it always throttling (since it is always limited to 500mbs)?

[shadow bluff]

because your ports are open up until 500mbps

that is literally just the answer

[cinder plank]

I don't understand how there is an in-between state where the link is used at 500mbs or less while not throttling? i.e.

state a: nothing is being sent the port is open and there is no throttling.
state b: i am sending a packets (they are being sent out by my router as fast as the hardware can handle i.e. 10gbps 🤞 ) but the isp then throttles the link (drops some packets?) to keep it at 500mbps.

[shadow bluff]

they dont "drop" packets, they just limit how fast it goes in/out

packets inbound or outbound are still controlled by your ISP

[stuck grove]

only had one drive, so not much choice

[cinder plank]

I would like to understand more about that, But first I still don't understand how there is an in-between state of not throttling but also not faster than 500mbps? Does my question make sense?

[gaunt sparrow]

ohh got it, i thought it was some kind of network simulation toll

[shadow bluff]

speed limit imposed by your isp is just a port security rules. what it essentially does it not let you go beyond say 500mbps. the policy which are imposed to your port doesnt really do any in-between state

it is done on the port itself

what you are essentially doing with your ISP is just.... routing packets

any policy/rules imposed to your ISP configuration does not copy to the clients as your are directly using PPPoE credentials

except for maybe iptv VLAN, but that doesnt really change anything about your port policy either

in-between state you refer here is routing/switching protocols instead, and has nothing to do with your speed limit

[stuck grove]

basically anytime you want to send anything anywhere, everything between you and them has a quick argument trying to figure out what everything supports

So your ISP tells your computer "hey, i only support 500mbps"

So your computer only sends 500mbps

[cinder plank]

essentially does it not let you go beyond say 500mbps
please can you explain "not let" in terms of how this occours from the routers perspective?

[shadow bluff]

your router sends packets > port says "yo only 500mbps road is open man, this the best you got" > packets goes through multi layer switch > ISP router > internet > back > same process

assume youre in traffic, with 10 available lanes, but only 5 is open

thats essentially it

[cinder plank]

Ok, That ""yo only 500mbps road is open man, this the best you got"" is what I was refering to as the configuration communicated to the router

[shadow bluff]

ah, well technically they dont communicate to say this

rather the switch just limits the speed you can go through it like a roadblocks with cops at the end

[cinder plank]

That logic doesn't computer... They say something without communicating??

[shadow bluff]

well they dont say anything at all about speed limit even lol

what a computer can do is test maximum speed theyre getting and it ends there

any port security configuration on ISP side is not known on the client side

[cinder plank]

so instead of
Q:"whats the limit?" - A:"the limit is 500mbps?", Ok from now on i'll only send at 500mbps

it is tries 100mbps - A:"status Okay", tries 400mbsp - A: "status Okay", tries 500mbsp - A: "status Okay", tries 600mbsp - A: "status Error", Ok from now on i'll only send at 500mbps

or is it more like tries 400mbsp - packet received by recipient, tries 500mbsp - packet received by recipient, tries 600mbsp - packet not received by recipient, Ok from now on i'll only send at 500mbps

[pseudo blade]

It doesn't, but software can send data and then wait and see if the data is received correctly, and after how long

[shadow bluff]

no, more like "ill try to move data as fast as i can up to my speed limit, oh wait i can only throw 500mbps, crap" and it just keeps sending at that rate lol

it doesnt just stay at 500mbps when it figures out it can only do that much

imagine this,

your ethernet can do 2.5gb from your pc, your home router can too, so your link speed is 2gbps
HOWEVER,

your internet speed is limited to 500mbps
does it actually transmit 2.5gb or only 500mbps?

[stuck grove]

it'll try 2.5gbps, realize packets are getting lost, and reduce speed till there's no packet losses

[cinder plank]

From what you've said it 'tests' the max speed so.
It I guess that means. It transmits at 2.5g untill packets are dropped and then dial back un-till they arent (resulting in it running at 500mbps)?

[cinder plank]

ye

[cinder plank]

back to this, how does this limit occur? (without dropping packets)

[pseudo blade]

It doesn't

It drops packets

[cinder plank]

is the loss of packets only established at the software level. I.e. If I have a dumb 1 way tcp socket will it just continue at 2.5g and hammer the ISP (which will drop 4/5 of the packets)

[shadow bluff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/4x90we/eli5how_do_isps_control_your_internet_speed/

have a read

[amber urchin]

Started playing around with Vyos. This is pretty nuts.

[lone crane]

sooo i am getting my UCG fiber tommorow but kinda forgot to grab a pcie sfp+ card so i can actually do 10 gig, anyways anyone tried ouit the cx311a

[cinder plank]

I've already read that... I doesn't really explain anything. "the provider has configured their communicating equipment to not allow more bandwidth throughput"... obviously

[spring mason]

Anyone know of a smaller unmanaged switch that can take poe/+/++ and output poe/+/++? Wanna throw one in a 10 inch rack as a pseudo power splitter/surge protector

[lone crane]

ubiquiti

[lone crane]

https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/category/switching-utility/collections/pro-ultra

can do PoE+

[clear igloo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CM9QB6DR

POE++ in and POE+ out

[lone crane]

that too

[lone crane]

ok soo i am renting in a apartment and i am wanting to do some fun things like setting up my own VPN and hosting some stuff, but the issue is that since i am renting and due to how the apartment is i do not have control over the modem, i am now getting a UCG-FIBER and wanting to also settup some vlans and such but anyways, i heard something i might be able to do is ask them to put my own switch on the DMZ soo i am wondering if doing DMZ is the right move or try and get em to setup a shit ton of ports

[nimble sable]

does anyone know if any pixel phones do 320mhz?

[opal pagoda]

easiest solution is to get a vps and route all traffic through it, you will get a static ip as a bonus

dmz solution is implemented if they have multiple ip's

[lone crane]

ew having to pay monthly stuff

[opal pagoda]

i dont pay for mine

[lone crane]

how

[opal pagoda]

sell your soul a lil

[lone crane]

o boy

WELLLLLL i do have a offsite server with tailscale that i can port forward on

anyways look what i made

[lone crane]

just not sure how to route port traffic to it

[opal pagoda]

did you mean this kind of dmz?
i use this instead of bridge mode (bc of iptv and phone)

[lone crane]

no clue what kinda the ISP modem uses

but if i understand it, DMZ means it is for the most part out of the network and then the switch having to do all of the firewalling

but it means i can port forward and all that without needing to fuck with the modem

[opal pagoda]

basically how it works with my router is if it doesent know what port goes to which ip it forwards it to dmz host which is a tplink omada router

[twin pier]

There's too much history to read but I think I see what you're asking

If you send too many packets they get dropped, so its up to the protocol to figure out how fast it can go. Usually something to the tune of limiting how many packets can be in flight at once, and lowering speed if packets start getting dropped

this was supposed to reply to @cinder plank idk why it didn't

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/4qyhw4/comment/d4x1tvd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button see this maybe

It is always a game of estimating how fast you cna go before bouncing off the limit and dropping packets

And the actual limiting happens by just configuring certain hardware in the chain to have bandwidth limits, you can even do this on a lot of consumer routers/switches

putting a bandwidth limit on a switch (afaik always) just means it'll drop packets beyond the set rate

[cinder plank]

the limit compliance is part of tcp which is inherently part of the internet, makes sense. that does add a bit more understanding thx.

[mental rose]

my opnsense router is crashing, anyone able to help me diagnose?

it seems to be dropping an IPv6 packet in the log right before it crashes

it tells me fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

[glad glacier]

@lone crane need some help here transferring the file from one computer to another

With an ethernet cable

[glad glacier]

Could you help me with this predicament

[shadow bluff]

the explanation is just that isp controls your speed by enforcing port security rules

theres really nothing much else to it

if they have QoS, it'll delay for a bit,
if they have a buffer, it'll send the excess packet later,
or if you try going further than your speed anyway, packets gets dropped

theres no "hi am computer how much is your speed?" "hey am router, can only go 500mbps"

[ornate jungle]

It's not a "configuration" in the traditional sense, rather, it's not something that you, the customer, would ever have access to under normal circumstances. I only know how it works for North American DOCSIS cable modems, but more or less there's a transparent handshake between the Cable Modem and ISP's CMTS at the headend, or sometimes out in the field at the Fiber to Coax Node. https://superuser.com/questions/1813612/how-isp-limits-the-speeds

It's a combination of an encrypted "secret" handshake and Quality of Service levels. These QoS levels effectively tell the Cable Modem (and all equipment between your modem and the Headend where the CMTS lives) that Subscriber X is only paying for Speed Y therefor Bandwidth Limit Z applies to all traffic between Cable Modem MAC address and Headend.

[topaz patrol]

For us Aussies it does not at all work like this :p

[ornate jungle]

Yee, updated my statement, cause there's never ever one way to do anything. DAMN STANDARDS.
https://xkcd.com/927

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[molten geyser]

My dad pays $10 for like 20 Mb internet. I pay for my own faster plan.

Our current setup works except randomly his internet access will go down (local network, i.e. wifi, stays up).

We each have a modem but I hooked this up to split the coax.

I'm guessing there's interference causing his connection to Comcast to fail.

Just looking for solutions to keep his Internet up.

(I like separate internet plans, keeps my data/network/services separate from my theirs).

[topaz patrol]

It probably worked like that for Telstra and Optus Cable back in the day, but HFC nbn access doesn't at all work that way. Lots of funky semi-custom stuff

[ornate jungle]

If you're both on Comcast using Cable Modems, I would contact Comcast to check the RF signal levels being delivered to each modem. Or you could try removing the splitter and connecting each of your modems to the incoming cable line, one at a time, to see if the issue goes away.

[ornate jungle]

Also note: different Cable Modems (rather, different DOCSIS specification versions) are error correct better (or worse) than other models, so if you have different modem models, keep that in mind.

[fervent brook]

https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/61AT+LlzbyL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

That non-twisted length is making me puke...

https://c.media-amazon.com/images/I/61VKNsr2giL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[twin pier]

You know I'm still wondering whether its for M.2 or mini pcie

[fervent brook]

https://www.amazon.com/X520-DA1-Controller-GiGaPlus-Ethernet-Supports/dp/B0D21L7GWL

15 used, but it's SFP...
The only SFP I have is 1Gb

Also, I don't have anything over 1Gb anyway

[random siren]

me hearing another frontend library is supposedly better and i should stop using what is established

[silent flax]

also too strong signal for a modem can be dropping connection too. That happened to me, when the tech person came to check my cable connectivity for gigabit, he said that my connection drops were due way too strong signal, he put in a 3dB attuenator if i remember correctly

[frosty stone]

Oh so it's for m.2, nice

[twin pier]

It might not be, I'm getting a feeling for some reason

[frosty stone]

Hmmm I think you're wrong

[clear igloo]

Yes they do

[nimble sable]

So is just mine that's not working?

[opal pagoda]

Is it 10g?

[clear igloo]

Do you have 320MHz enabled on the AP on 6GHz?
Do you have the AP set to WPA3 only?

[nimble sable]

Yes and yes

Pixel 8 pro even says is connected at 320

[clear igloo]

What pixel phone?

[nimble sable]

But it isn't

[clear igloo]

Only the 9 does 320MHz

The 8 is 160 only
If you're using WiFi man it shows the max not the current (it's stupid)

[nimble sable]

Aah, that was my question. Oh really, ok. That actually explains everything then. It does seem to do 4096qam though so that's something

[clear igloo]

Yah, idk why they can't show a current and max supported but it only shows the max supported by the SSID

Yes, I do remember reading the 8 does 4096 qam

[nimble sable]

Ok awesome that answers my questions then. Ty

I tried contacting Google and they kept telling me it can but I was seeing a lot of ppl online saying it can't. The 9 and 9pro can do 320mhz for sure?

Another question: what is supposed to be the advantage of MLO without any of the other features of wifi7 (like AFC)? Cuz even dongknows says it's "more of a marketing ploy at this point" but like, theoretically it's supposed to work like combining the bands right? Why wouldn't I get speeds that are both put together?

[thorny osprey]

is openwrt better or immortalwrt better for higher speed and lower ping? Im using a archer ax23

[clear igloo]

It's pretty early, the Pixel 9 doesn't even handle it right, always defaults to 5GHz even when that and 6GHz are connected and only uses one of the two

[clear igloo]

Yup, works with my WiFi 7 AP on 320MHz 🙂

and I know because AP reports it PLUS the speed boost verifies

[nimble sable]

sounds like the behaviour im seeing on 8pro, even though wifiman says its connected to both the speed is basically only one of them, interesting. So it's an implementation issue? like if i continue with this AP and maybe in the future at some point get a phone that does MLO shd actually be betteR?

[nimble sable]

aw sweet!

[clear igloo]

Yah, 100% implementation issue

[opal pagoda]

Did anyone else have wierd snmp trap issue with fortigates where traps are sent via wrong interface, in my case wan interfaces when using loopback for mgmt
On several other locations where loopback isnt used issue is not present

[peak cloak]

Is nat enabled on the to link

[violet spear]

no

[lone crane]

i can do this now

[humble ridge]

Hey guys i need advice.

I need a vdsl2 modem/modemrouter for my family. My budget is around 120 dollars (i can't type the dollar sign). We got a 2 story building (ground floor and first floor) and we have only 1 rj-45 conecting the floors and its only cat 5e - 1 gigabit.
I need a vdsl2 modem since i live in a village and we have only rj-11 avilable at our house. I would prefer a modemrouter, that supports some mesh system, so that i can hook up an AP in the second floor, but just modem would be also fine and then I would buy some mesh system probably from tp-link (don't include the mesh system in the price, i will buy that later anyway). Also i live Czechia so something avalible here or in Germany.

Thanks for help
Filip

[red dirge]

blue confetti spreading to your other devices

oh no

[topaz patrol]

TP-Link has Deco mesh systems with a built in xDSL modem

X20-DSL and X50-DSL

[frosty stone]

Just use whatever the ISP provides.
With DSL you ain't going to benefit from anything else

[topaz patrol]

If they provide one for free*

[frosty stone]

If the wifi on it ain't good enough, disable the built in and use a 3rd party AP on each floor

[frosty stone]

It better fucking be for DSL lmao

[topaz patrol]

[sly compass]

Found a Edgerouter X sfp and needed 3 different lan. What absolute shitshow to setup

[peak cloak]

Huh?

I've always liked the edge routers although they don't get updated anymore

[silent flax]

and too often it is the only VDSL modem that works. I had an ASUS VDSL router, but i simply couldn't configure it for Orange Slovakia even if i entered everything correctly

[silent flax]

flash OpenWRT maybe ?

[thorny osprey]

what kind of optimisation should I do in openwrt to increase speeds to outside country servers and decrease latency?

[lone crane]

pray

[sly compass]

Ah is that possible?

[silent flax]

https://openwrt.org/toh/ubiquiti/edgerouter_x_er-x_ka

i think i flashed my ER-X SFP to it, but not 100% sure

[sly compass]

Nah pfsense/opnsense, mikrotik ddwrt all just so damn much easier. I probably setup 100th of routers this was the worse with absolute least futures

[silent flax]

(i don't have it here right now)

[silent flax]

the original firmware has most of the features, but 99% of them are hidden behind the weird tree configuration system and sometimes even behind the command line UI. Hated it too

[silent flax]

and https://blog.nytsoi.net/2024/09/19/edgerouter-x-openwrt

[sly compass]

Might do that, i really want some geoblocking. Other than that i got it as i wanted

[sly compass]

No adding geoblock doesn’t exist. Also same in mikrotik the memory is to little to add a ton of ip list for blocking

But mikrotik lets you add usb if you want more storage

[silent flax]

maybe such features. i meant general features like OpenVPN client was paint to set up, but possible

[sly compass]

Really? I want wireguard, i have rspi2 as my wireguard now

It’s far away and that site only got 5/5mbit

It’s for surveillance, fire alarm and our heating/cooling system

[silent flax]

wireguard didn't exist when i was using my ER-X SFP, so no idea if current firmware even have it

something like this image from google

you had to translate the configuration file into the crazy settings they had in the tree structure

[nimble sable]

can someone explain why my internet speed consistently drops by 40% when i turn this fan on?

[lone crane]

i would imagine power line ethernet?

anyways a large fan like that makes a lot of inductance so if its powerline then that is why

[nimble sable]

no wifi

and yea wifi is finicky at the best of times but a FAN?

[lone crane]

yea

again inductance

its like a wifi jammer

its not meant to do this so that fan might be faulty

but maybe not im not too big into this

[humble ridge]

Could you recommend something cheaper, in my country these go for around 160$

[topaz patrol]

You will not find a cheaper modem + mesh system

[humble ridge]

I was thinking tp link archer vr2100, but I don't know how good it is

[topaz patrol]

You would need to look at either NetComm (which almost certainly isn’t available there) or some sort of Chinesium unfortunately

[topaz patrol]

Good for…. Wifi? Or just as a modem?

[humble ridge]

both, it's a modem that does wifi too

[topaz patrol]

I would think that you would find lots of $10-50 FritzBoxes over there if you can purchase from Germany

I assume your VDSL2/+ service is only 100Mbps?

[humble ridge]

we have only 100, but vdsl2 supports up to 300 i think

[topaz patrol]

Yeah okay

[nimble sable]

oh that does make sense then, it's a cheapass fan meant for like stadiums and shit so i can see how it would not have too much in the way of protecting against stuff like this, just didn't know that was a thing

[pseudo blade]

You don't happen to have a particularly nice AP, do you?

Or just an ISP special

[nimble sable]

I've been trying to decide between eap783 and eap773 actually, rn testing 773. So yes really nice AP

[pseudo blade]

Ok it'll apparently do RF scanning

Perform a scan, move the fan over near it, scan again

[nimble sable]

oooh u know what good point yea! i did the scan without the fan on

[pseudo blade]

If there's no difference, you likely have a coincidence

[nimble sable]

EAP783 has 2 extra antennas which i'm told makes a difference, i can't see how it could possibly. and honestly i have a very small apartment my main issue with 773 is how FAST the 6ghz drops off

[pseudo blade]

6ghz penetration is garbage

[nimble sable]

FR, i swear my WAX630e was better though but that could just me misremembering

[pseudo blade]

Don't expect much

[nimble sable]

i want 1Gbps in the bathroom damn it! 😛

[pseudo blade]

6ghz I treat as line-of-sight or near-line-of-sight

[nimble sable]

oh dang really? hmm so actually better to buy 2 cheaper ones rather than one expensive one?

[stuck grove]

line of sight, or maybe through a sheet of paper

[pseudo blade]

Nah 30ghz is that touchy

6ghz is a bit more BS tolerant than that

[stuck grove]

if you can’t punch through it with your fist 6ghz probably ain’t going through it well

[pseudo blade]

But walls it doesn't like much

[stuck grove]

drywall should be fine-ish, brick is a no-go though

[pseudo blade]

Well yes

[nimble sable]

still not sure if EAP783 is worth the extra $500 for me though, thats a LOT Of money that could go toward a new client device

am coming from WAX630e

[pseudo blade]

I haven't looked at the difference but if you're buying a higher end model for penetration on 6ghz rather than peak speed I'd get two for two areas instead

[stuck grove]

6ghz is better off with lower transmit power, more APs

[pseudo blade]

That advice works for any band

[nimble sable]

yea im good on peak speed outside of "omg look how fast!" i think

[stuck grove]

True, more important the higher the frequency though

[pseudo blade]

Actually more the other way as lower frequency propagates more

[nimble sable]

what about 2x2 vs 4x4? wtf does that extra 2 antennas do? cuz it sure isn't extra bandwidth

[pseudo blade]

It's throughput

But it's niche outside of MU-MIMO

Not many 4x4 devices you see

So no 4x4 speeds for most

[nimble sable]

assuming all 2x2 devices. Ive tried like connecting 2 laptops and i NEVER see both totals exceeding the total of single

so like 1 laptop: 1.5Gbps, 2 laptops 750 and 750, not 1.5 and 1

[pseudo blade]

Unless you have two WiFi 6/6e devices capable of MU-MIMO you are unlikely to see benefit and even then it's kinda hard to pull off

[nimble sable]

so it does work? is it just finky? how do you pull it off?

[pseudo blade]

I think there's an LTT video on it I didn't mind

Explained the BS around it well

[nimble sable]

so outside of mumimo which i can neverr get to work, a "stronger" AP with 2 extra antennas...won't make enough ofa. difference to me rt? keeping in mind i have a small apartment with lots of walls and im only 1 person

[nimble sable]

oh really?n let me see if i can find it ty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKTbNRTmzhY ? this one?

[pseudo blade]

Maybe
I thought LS did it but perhaps my memory's unreliable lol

Watched a bit of that one just then and it seems very good at explaining it

So it's probably this one

[nimble sable]

thanks, if you do find another one let me know

[pseudo blade]

It's like 3AM for me so I probably won't dig further right now lol

[nimble sable]

hold up... "my-mo" no "mee-mo"?

[pseudo blade]

But I think you're equipped enough to make your own decisions anyways

[nimble sable]

"moo mee moh" is so fun to say though

[pseudo blade]

Potahtoe

[lean palm]

M-you-my-moe

[thick minnow]

Hi, I have some career-related questions about becoming a Network Engineer. Do network engineers also have to handle the cybersecurity aspects of a company, or is their role limited to managing hardware? Or is it a combination of both hardware and software tasks, such as setting up DHCP and DNS servers?

It would be really helpful if someone could guide me from start to finish on what the role involves and how to get started. 😅

[topaz patrol]

That would vary greatly between companies, and roles in those companies

[thick minnow]

Oh, I see! So would you say that network engineering is a good career path overall? My current tech stack involves a lot of coding, but long-term, that's not something I want to stick with. I’ve developed a strong interest in networking and I’m considering it as an alternative.

I'm currently a fresher, but I do have some solid projects and freelance work on my resume. Would it be a good idea to start with the CCNA certification at this stage?

[topaz patrol]

I'm not a network engineer 🙂

If you enjoy networking, I say go for it! You can also choose to do something different down the road

Learning the CCNA material is a great idea, but I'd argue the actual exam is of dubious value

[lone crane]

i actually just do it irl and its fun

as in i fuck around with networking myself on my free time from school

[thick minnow]

thats what im thinking

[lone crane]

right now starting on 10 gig and some better networking stuff

[thick minnow]

yea but without the test its anc certifications i dont think any company is hiring me

[lone crane]

trying to also setup ngnix

[topaz patrol]

Do what makes you happy!!! :)

[lone crane]

also doing ACLs and plan on trying active directory soon

[thick minnow]

i do it with my old laptop sometimes and sometimes at college xD

[lone crane]

i got a GOOD deal for some used computer stuff from a business that was upgrading

going to see what IPS/IDS stuff is and then try and use it

i would rec just getting some used 50$ desktop or workstation pc anything from 6th gen to 11th gen for quick sync or better

home assistant is so fun to fuck with

i have now connected my roomba to it

[nimble sable]

the certification itself not worth it?

[snow kernel]

Anyone need a T1 modem?

[void sparrow]

I’m doing my ccna certification rn (via school) and tbh, it’s very weirdly made, I already had network skills/knowledge due to me messing around and finding out and the certification is something

[thin hedge]

Stop talking gah

That was a GOOD deal indeed

[mental rose]

you guys have opnsense hardware recommendations?

[tight pecan]

If it's a 1Gbit link or slower, then you can use pretty much anything that's not e-waste

My actual recommendation for home use would be something with low power draw. No need for anything fancy or powerful for an opnsense box, unless you have >1Gbit plans in your area

[pseudo blade]

The smaller the company, the more hats you must wear

I dealt with a large American ISP you've definitely heard of and the guy I spoke to seemed surprised I worked on more than just TLS certificates in my job

[mental rose]

I have two N305 boxes but they're crashing

So I wanted to get recommendations for systems that are known good

[tight pecan]

Crashing due to faulty hardware or...?

Opnsense runs fine on a large variety of systems. You can grab some random throwaway office pc, toss in a boot ssd with opnsense, and it'll likely work

[mental rose]

I'm not completely sure why! I made a troubleshooting post in this server

My best guess is due to traffic shaping but I'm not sure of that

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1364397589180579950

[topaz patrol]

Not a modem! :p

[sacred sail]

Hey guys, a noob question. Does speed (Mbps for example) consumes on how much data (like GB) you have?

[shadow bluff]

in general you only use measurements like Mbps, MB/s, Gbps, GB/s to describe speed/transfer/throughput. Data consumption is only imposed upon what you use to load whatever that relates to the net

for example, you wanna check how fast your internet speed is. say you get 100mbps after testing, whatever and how much packet is sent/received to reach that peak speed is what you consume

[sacred sail]

Oh, thanks for the explanation

[sacred sail]

But what about ethernet? Does it least consume than WiFi?

[snow kernel]

I assure you it is a MOdulator/DEModulator

[topaz patrol]

It’s a CSU DSU

Not technically a modem :)

[nimble sable]

can someone explain why, with all else being the same: 6ghz RSSI goes from -50 to -75dBm after turning on MLO?

[snow kernel]

Ok yes it is that but most won't know what that is. I also have a CS32 unit I pulled recently at home 😉

In reality most won't know what T1 is either

[twin pier]

Yes, Mbps (rate) multiplied by time downloading (at that speed) gives you the data usage

If you download at 100 megabits per second, for 8 seconds, that is 800 megabits downloaded which equals 100 MB

[nimble sable]

In general ethernet is faster and more stable than wifi. that is in general, these days wifi is catching up to ethernet speeds but mostly you are able to not only consume faster with wired vs wireless but you might have a more stable connection as well (faster for longer etc). How MUCH you can consume might depend on other factors not related to this like your Internet provider might set a limit on how much. If you watch the same youtube video over wifi or wired, your consumption won't be different (unless you change the video quality you're watching) but you might have a better time or be able to watch better quality with ethernet if you don't have excellent wifi, this might LEAD to more consumption because say with wifi you can only do 720p video but with wired your connection is more stable and faster so you do 4K ...4k is more data than 720p video

[shadow bluff]

they will probably consume about the same

difference that can be seen from ethernet and wifi is only means of connection

what you consume would be similar if not the same via any means

considering that question here is if it least consume vs ethernet, in perfect circumstances, its a no

[clear igloo]

There is no probably
Same file size will ALWAYS consume the same amount of data over any medium. The only difference is how fast it's received but the amount consumed will be the same

[shadow bluff]

what i said, but yes lol

[twin pier]

(this is just how rate and time works, same deal with i.e. kph and km travelled)

[tight pecan]

Assuming 0 overhead that is. If you use VPNs, proxies, or the various tunneling protocols, it technically takes more bandwidth than what the file size dictates due to additional data added onto the header of each packet or due to encryption

The overhead is generally miniscule anyways, so not a big deal either way

Anyway, ethernet vs wifi generally does not affect total bandwidth consumption, only speeds.

If your wifi setup is so bad that it keeps dropping packets, then that's a separate issue

[clear igloo]

Well yah, ignoring overhead from protocols I should have clarified that but if you want to be REALLY pedantic we could count the preamble and whatnot 😛

[lone crane]

10gig time

But first some cooling

Welp the fan makes it not fit, let's see if it can do passive

[amber urchin]

I just run a case with a side intake or zip tie a fan pointed toward the card and it seems to be sufficient.

[lone crane]

i am testing it out real quick and at least at like 4gig transfer or so its realy cold

i just feel the heatsink

going to try and transfer something MASSIVE

[lone crane]

ITS DOING 10gi YAAAAA

[lone crane]

but only got like 300MB read write when not cached since i am only doing 2 vedevs with 6 spinning rusters

[lone crane]

no fan and the NIC is doing GOOD

[silent flax]

i use the same card in my server i think

[lone crane]

yeah its really common

[silent flax]

ConnectX-3 to be precise

[silent flax]

😛

look at total 😄 , even better is that they sent a 3m cable instead of the 1 meter one

[lone crane]

mine did cost as much as that without the discounts

[silent flax]

well this was last July

[long scarab]

Okay so I'm playing around with VoIP, got a phone number and stuff, and a VoIP phone is on the way... but how do I actually use it without it costing a shitload of money?

[ornate jungle]

You place a minimal number of phone calls and ensure you're using a super cheap VoIP provider?

[long scarab]

The thing is, I don't know of any super cheap VoIP providers or how to set any of it up. This is entirely new to me

Found this tho
https://voip.ms/pricing#improved_communications_container

[kind shuttle]

any prosumer out there actually got their internet provided to run fiber to the Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Fiber? Got it b/c i plan on geting FiOS to run their fiber right to it. Currious if anyone has done it yet here.

[peak cloak]

They won't

It's gpon

Their ont is painfree though, just plug the Ethernet in

No messing with those all in one gateways

At least that's how it was for us like 4 years ago

There are hacky ways to try to bypass it but imo it's just not worth it. The speed is basically still the same

[lone crane]

I do not think he wants to do it for speed

[glass depot]

ah

[vagrant condor]

i see you are here too, could you possibly help me set up the 4 16tb seagate drives as a RAID 5 NAS?

[lone crane]

Why not raidz

[vagrant condor]

what is raidz?

[lone crane]

What NAS os did you plan to use

[vagrant condor]

well im a complete noob so, im not sure

as long as it pops up as a storage drive on the network and is easy to set up and maintain

i think the mini pc also has at least 1 spot for an m.2 as well

imma check and see

the current solution for backing up stuff is dropbox, which is fine for like jpegs and spreadsheets, but im the media guy and i record videos that need to be backed up, and with our 100mbit internet, it takes way too long to upload to dropbox so i need some local storage for backing up to. and the ethernet here is probably fine, the old switch and router was gigabit and it got upgraded so i assume its at least still gigabit

but ill have to check the lil asus pn40 minipc to see if i can even use it

the internet here is also extremely unstable, i sometimes struggle to open google

ok so the mini pc has 4xusb3.1, gigabit lan and supports an m.2 internally and a 2.5inch ssd too

yikes it only has 4gb of ram doe

[vagrant condor]

what the ideal RAM and CPU config for a small nas like this?

[lone crane]

cpu does not matter ram up to what file system with zfs its like 1GB per 1TB usable or smn

[vagrant condor]

ok it has 4gb but it has an open slot for another stick

[lone crane]

Just get a off the shelf NAS og get any normal desktop computer

[silent flax]

just don't use ZFS, use something like EXT4 and mdraid if you want raid and literally anything will do, even 15 year old lowend parts

file storage and access doesn't require any CPU performance, certainly not at gigabit speeds

hell, those off the shelf cheapo NAS systems use dual or quadcore ARM CPUs at 1-1.5GHz

[opal pagoda]

you can buy apc sc patch cable and coupler and run your cable wherever you want

[crisp thorn]

what is the cheapest router that can be flashed with openwrt with 1Gb/s ports

currently I have TL-wr841N but not only does it not have 1gbs ports it also refuses to connect to wifi after some time and requires a restart

[serene nest]

I’ve just moved and pulled out a long forgotten Sophos AP55. You need a subscription and it’s EOL, so that’s a non-starter, anybody have a good open-source solution for APs?

[serene nest]

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/howto-installing-openwrt-on-sophos-ap-55-and-ap-100/171914/6
looks like the answer is openwrt for APs in general

[cedar escarp]

I am thinking about building a Plex media server for my music library so I can stream to my phone (I buy a lot of music directly from artists as opposed to subscribing to a streaming platform). I don't have really any experience with networking, is this a silly thing to try and do with minimal experience/knowledge? Anyone know a good place to start researching?

[opal pagoda]

with plex you dont really need to worry about networking setup as it gets automatically configured

[cedar escarp]

Cool, is there a better place here to ask about it? I wasn't really sure

As you can tell, I don't know a lot 😅

[opal pagoda]

do you have any other needs other than plex?
file storage, home assistant, pihole etc..

[cedar escarp]

Not really, file storage maybe? But no home assistant, nothing really, it's mostly just so I can stream my music library remotely on my phone

I'd rather set up a server like this and continue buying music directly from artists than subscribe to a streaming service

I actually don't know what a pihole is

[opal pagoda]

do you already have some hardware that you can dedicate to run 24/7 or would you be buying new hardware

[opal pagoda]

ad blocking dns

[cedar escarp]

I have an old laptop (lenovo y50) that I don't know if it'd be suitable for this

I'd also be okay buying something if that's the proper way to do things

the laptop has an HDD so I'd probably have to get an external SSD to really be safe

[opal pagoda]

you can also remove original hdd and put ssd in its place

are you familiar with linux or would you prefer windows setup?
windows setup: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/m9gt84/the_ultimate_plex_guide_part_1_starting_plex_with/

[cedar escarp]

I am not familiar with Linux, but is it the kind of thing where learning about this would be better long-term? Or am I better off just sticking with what I know?

[opal pagoda]

linux is generally more suited for 24/7 operation

[pseudo blade]

Most notably, once you learn Linux administration you're going to be able to support services for a very long time

Performing updates is much less annoying in particular

No matter what OS you're running, please make sure you actually do updates...

[cedar escarp]

Yeah I can see right away how this guide has to specify windows 10, already I know that at some point there's gonna be an issue moving over to 11

[pseudo blade]

Yep, Windows 10 is unfortunately not a secure choice without patches, meanwhile the same hardware W11 won't support will probably be supported under Ubuntu or Debian or the like beyond the usable lifespan of the hardware

I hear Linux is likely removing support for the 486+586 soon, meaning that users with servers from the late 80s and early 90s may only have... 5 to 10 years to upgrade to something more modern?

[untold idol]

can anyone recommend a modem router combo thats pretty cheap?

also i live out in the country side for context and the fastest speed we can get is 1 Gig but im not even on that plan

[topaz patrol]

Do you need a modem? And what kind of modem?

[untold idol]

i need both modem and router i have my console and gaming pc hooked up by ethernet but also need wifi for my tv and phone

and via my ISP Sparklight requires customers to use a DOCSIS 3.1 or higher Modem

@topaz patrol ^

[topaz patrol]

Do you currently use the equipment Sparklight provides?

[untold idol]

ya but i hate it

[topaz patrol]

I would recommend using your own router, but continuing to use their equipment as a modem

[untold idol]

all i have is a modem router combo i was thinking about getting this https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Cable-Modem-Router/dp/B07SHK2241 but im not sure if its good or not idk anything about networking

i just want to stop renting it

[topaz patrol]

Oh you're renting it lol

[untold idol]

ya

[topaz patrol]

When looking for a combo unit, I'd recommend ensuring it can be used later on as just a router

Also I hope it's not $802 where you are lmao

[untold idol]

lol no for me it shows $135

[pseudo blade]

$800 lol

[topaz patrol]

I have a feeling there is no way to set any of those LAN ports as WAN in the future

[pseudo blade]

I'd consider just using a decidicated modem and an ethernet router just for how many options it gives you, but if you're dead set on a combo...

[untold idol]

i just want both a modem and router i use both ethernet and wifi if the non combo is better/cheaper then i can go that route im flexible

[topaz patrol]

I am saying this because when you move, and/or get fibre, you want it to not be useless to you

[pseudo blade]

It won't be cheaper but it will let you buy a nicer router and keep it

[untold idol]

ya like i said i live out in the country and the fastest speed we can get is 1 gig

[topaz patrol]

And if you want upgraded WiFi in the future, you won't also need to buy a new modem :)

Someone tell Bilal to piss off

[pseudo blade]

Otherwise yes the Nighthawk will probably work

But me personally I'd find a compatible basic modem, anything but Intel Puma chipsets.

Then get a solid gigabit router with WiFi 6

I like Mikrotik, some like Ubiquiti's options like the Dream Router, if you want Netgear stuff like the Nighthawks or whatever consumer model feel free to do so but don't tell me or I'll be sad :P
I kinda want to know what people think of the BPI-WiFi6 as a really cheap option as it looks compelling for the $

Sucks to be American as I have no idea if anything makes sense for the price for you right now, you might just have to take what you can get while it's still in stock!

[twin pier]

dont worry we can join them in nothing being reasonably priced soon

[untold idol]

so your saying get something like this https://www.amazon.com/Hitron-Approved-Comcast-Spectrum-Ethernet/dp/B0981553MT?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1 to pair it up with this? https://www.amazon.com/MikroTik-hAP-ax3-US-Version/dp/B0BW9G97BR?crid=16ACASHR37Q38&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rhYWqJ_1k0xjtcRD26xJBkEvkqYDew-NuZTjUiAX8vsxUteBcqFn6DjmP5JNa_-Iiq-Ubk2EaxC9gmsno-cuZutpHbE05NXwEOnQ_4ubpXPzjpz86Wky44bE31eas3ut0J8X3Em7FoRI_YB144HrLiYD4q7piQWXuYxsczF__lEoeODpbgsJSa6sllcSAxV90y3zBLWUrPm31KOGEcGGIAJhiXu6ymf13HXxALMFhsk.n6YvxpKSPNiT5Y32-t0-UM9aeZ05eJ_aJKNrnqqIbBA&dib_tag=se&keywords=mikrotik+router+wifi+6&qid=1745911620&sprefix=MikroTik+router%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-1

[pseudo blade]

The modem is an Intel Puma 6, so no

[topaz patrol]

Keep in mind if you don't want to have a bit of a play around the 'Tik probably isn't the best thing for you

[untold idol]

welll idk what modem to get

https://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-SURFboard-SB8200-RB-Approved-Spectrum/dp/B07M8BNVSD?s=electronics&sr=1-4 what about this?

[topaz patrol]

Hello there, old HFC NTD!

[untold idol]

lol shows you how much i know about networking 😛

[topaz patrol]

No, it's just a legacy version of modem that is used on the nbn access network in Australia

[untold idol]

oh

so is it bad?

[topaz patrol]

No

It's fine, "carrier grade"! :p

[untold idol]

what modem do you recommend then

[topaz patrol]

I have no clue about cable modems :)

[untold idol]

lol

then what do you recommend for me to buy?

[topaz patrol]

:)

[untold idol]

lolll

[topaz patrol]

This should be more than fine

[untold idol]

are TP-Link good?

[topaz patrol]

If your expectations are appropriate, yes

[untold idol]

what expectations should i have?

[topaz patrol]

That none of their consumer products are going to be anywhere near as capable as a 'Tik, but are also going to be much easier to configure.

TP-Link would be my choice for 99% of people, however I am sure many in here would disagree

[untold idol]

only reason i asked is i saw the TP-Link TL-WA30001 wirless access point was on sale and so i was thinking maybe pair it up with the modem and switch and everything comes out to be $187 US Dollars

[topaz patrol]

You will still need a gateway/router (something to do NAT)

[untold idol]

okay

[topaz patrol]

A 'Tik could handle that for ~$50

Or a TP-Link ER605 for about the same

[untold idol]

ya i see a tik for $62

[topaz patrol]

You won't want a hex lite though

[topaz patrol]

Idk, they're about $80 AUD

[untold idol]

Mikrotik hEX RB750Gr3 is $62 US dollars

[topaz patrol]

Here's a demo for the 'Tik's web interface https://demo.mt.lv/webfig

No password

Might be a bit scary 🙂

[untold idol]

lol ya i have no idea what alot of this means

[topaz patrol]

Yeah I don't think the 'Tik is right for you, unless you want to learn and play

[untold idol]

have no need to learn and play really i dont do much other than play video games stream movies and stream all my sports on my tv

i mean sounds more like i should get a modem and then this? TP-Link Festa FR365

[topaz patrol]

I would look at an er706w if the festa interests you

[topaz patrol]

What the Omada UI looks like

[untold idol]

whats omada

[topaz patrol]

TP-Link's small business/prosumer product line

[untold idol]

oh okay

what about TP-Link Dual-Band BE3600

[topaz patrol]

That would also work

Keep in mind it's not really WiFi 7, only WiFi 6 (which is fine, just don't buy it because you think it's WiFi 7)

[untold idol]

lol no it was cheaper option thats why i saw it

so getting the Arris SB8200-RB modem with that router and should be good?

[topaz patrol]

Yep

[untold idol]

okay thanks

[pearl lantern]

As an Idea for a video: In Spain we just had this massive blackout that lasted for 8+ hours. When we got power back, even though we had wifi, my router had no connection and when pinging my DNS server (the one I'm assigned to) i was getting "Destination net Unreachable". It would be interesting as a video to showcase how ISPs and Servers have to get back up and running after such an interruption in service and the challenges starting the IT infrastructure from scratch has

[pseudo blade]

Well it depends on what infrastructure they have and what resiliency they've built in. Some infrastructure's built to maintain functionality without grid power for prolonged periods of time using batteries and even generators.

Others are less reliable than your home router because their goal was to save money only.

[frosty stone]

Only 8 hours? Who cheaped out on the power backups?

[frosty stone]

Our fiber exchanges have battery backups and generators

Data centers also have battery backups and generators

As long as there is fuel, there is Internet

Of course you have to have your own backup power to make use of that

Downtime is for the broke

[pearl lantern]

I think no one expected it to go for that long. There was 0 cell coverage not because towers lost power (which they did because I could see my local cell tower stop blinking every now and then), but because ISPs server's were overloaded apparently (and I guess that would only happen if they lost part of the infrastructure due to power loss)

[pearl lantern]

That is what I expected, but even after we got power back, wifi was insanely unreliable and cell coverage was non-existant (every 2-3h you would get like 50 messages at once and 1min later loose coverage again)

[frosty stone]

massive L for Spain

[twin pier]

I'm pretty sure there isn't a whole lot you'd have to do on the networking side. Maybe start back up servers that lost power perhaps, but its not like the electric grid where you have to carefully reattach parts of the grid and bring up generators from scratch manually. I would think its basically all automatic

[opal pagoda]

we have giant generators (couple of MW) just to provide power to compressors and power to control systems

[shrewd robin]

this is probably isnt the best place to ask, but is there a website/calculator to calculate the read/write performance of different storage raid configuration?

[lone crane]

Up to so many factors

Unless you have 25gig or something do not worry about it

Also iops vs raw throughput

I like just going with raidz

@shrewd robin

[shrewd robin]

yea, all i wanna do is just to see the approximate performance for learning purposes only

[lone crane]

I do not have any websites in my head

[shrewd robin]

my current nas has only 2x4tb drive configured in raid1 (mdadm), and im about to use zfs soon

[lone crane]

1gig or 10gig

[shrewd robin]

but you know, as a data hoarder, 4tb isnt big lel.

[shrewd robin]

my server has 10g card, but my client can do 2.5g at best

[lone crane]

2 good HDDs should do 2.5g

[shrewd robin]

laptop + 10g converter is hella expensive, maybe one day ill just build a pc with 10g card next time so i can play around with L2ARC

[shrewd robin]

aint the best NAS drives from toshiba n300. But they can easily max out at 250MB

[lone crane]

but with 2 drives, raid z1 or mirror

if you need more storage expand the raidz pool or make another vdev for the mirror

[shrewd robin]

maybe in the future, ill expand from 2 drives to 4 drives with a couple of cache drives

it's ok, I found a okayish website to sorta estimate the performance of each different raid. https://www.gigacalculator.com/calculators/raid-calculator.php

[shrewd robin]

with 4 hdd, I think ill either go with raidz2 or stripped mirror

[vernal whale]

Yo should I pair a 3080 and an i7

I'm getting a dout

[kind shuttle]

Even if i opt'ed for their business level service? I'm still going to try.

[peak cloak]

Maybe business, but theres really no benefit to it in my opinion

Just more money

[opal pagoda]

as i said if you really want to relocate fiber you can get contractor to do it by running a apc-sc simplex fiber to wherever you want

or run it yourself

[peak cloak]

they are trying to get fiber to the router, which verizon doesn't do

at least for home

[opal pagoda]

yes i understand but fiber is easily extended

[peak cloak]

ah yeah

thier ONT isn't really a big deal, none of that all in one bs

fiber in, ethernet out

[opal pagoda]

all you need is these 2
female to female adapter:
https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/76106.html?attribute=26072&id=2461147
and whatever lenght patch cable
https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/41922.html?attribute=103140&id=3690239

[kind shuttle]

The home plan has the fiber line terminating at their provided ONT and then copper to their home consumer router. In the move to Uni equipment I just want the fiber all the way to my equipment and not covert to copper. You think FiOS if getting the business plan still wouldn't bring the fiber to my own equipment (IE the Uni Cloud Gateway Fiber) ?

[opal pagoda]

You will need to use an ont anyway, either sfp pluggable formfactor or dedicated box

[kind shuttle]

ever seen a provider use an ONT that has SFP/fiber out instead of copper? I'm mainly interested in avoiding copper for the WAN line

[amber urchin]

You need to have a > 3M/10FT 'WAN line'?

[kind shuttle]

The connection from the ONT to their routers is currently may 12ft copper. Since I'll using my own router now I'm placing it close to the incoming ONT so it should only need maybe 5-6ft of fiber. I do not mind using the provider's ONT. I'm just being a nerd and insisting on fiber to my new router.

[kind shuttle]

I opened my provider box and the ONT they are currently using has no fiber/SFP out option I can find. I doubt they will do anything for me under a consumer account but I'm hopeing I could get the ONT upgraded to one that has fiber out options if I go to a business account.

[amber urchin]

I mean, I get it. I'm in the middle of rolling out a 16 hdd NAS in a full tower case, so I understand wanting to do things the hard way because it's there. As long as you know there's no reason for it other than just wanting the 'cables' to look the same.

[kind shuttle]

I want the lightspeed lightency literally. Even though it's impossible to perceive the difference of a 10g copper connection.

[peak cloak]

Technically copper is faster than fiber

[amber urchin]

If anything, the copper is quicker because you're not converting to light then back and dealing with the fact that light is not the speed of light in a vacuum while in a cable.

[kind shuttle]

Thanks all. This has helped me understand a bit. Even if I can get them to change it to SFP so i can change it to whatever I want over time. I'll let everyone know how it goes with FiOS.

[twin pier]

yeah latency of copper is lower than fiber unless you're running something too far for copper to reach

[opal pagoda]

Even then signal travels slower on fiber than copper or RF

[twin pier]

sometimes the latency of adding relays/switches in between on copper can overcome it

when you could just send a single fiber line for a few km

[opal pagoda]

https://youtu.be/Y_YVkQaS6Uc

[fervent brook]

Imma bout to have wifi 7...

[stuck grove]

RF is used when you need the lowest latency possible

Albeit with line of sight

[fervent brook]

Is it possible to connect RF devices by running a cable between the antenna ports?

[lone crane]

fire

na its too much

its MEANT to NOT be directly connected

[fervent brook]

Too many Tx watts for the Rx circuits?

[opal pagoda]

That is essentially what powerline does

Modulate a rf signal onto ac power lines

[pseudo blade]

Yes, you can do that in certain circumstances using an attenuator

[gaunt sparrow]

anyone here?

[fervent brook]

No

[pseudo blade]

Nobody is here. Go away.

[clear igloo]

New server, who dis?

[lone crane]

why would i be, such a boring place.

[fast moth]

Hello, i'm trying to expand my current wi-fi coverage using DECO X50 modules, i configured them to be setup ass acces points instead of router mode but they alwasy create a new wi-fi network instead of expanding the existing one, any help?

[opal pagoda]

you configure one for ap and then add other decos to that one

if you configure them all as ap then there is no mesh functionality

https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1590/

[main hazel]

and the minimal size of a complete frame of data can be transferred in the availeble bandwidth ofc since if the latency is only light speed if a complete unit of dat that makes sense takes longer than the latency difference with another mediom your still ending up with anything usefull later , not so much an issue with analog transmission more so with digital... 🙂

also you prolly have seen this series and the wold of academic youtubers dishing it out 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHIhgxav9LY&t=36s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-WCZ8PkrK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsoG45Y_00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gezZklOsGbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vrhk5OjBP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI_X2cMHNe0
theres more but youtube aint helping 😄

[long scarab]

can you like... clean up the embeds please

[main hazel]

they should add tabbed content into markdown 😛

[topaz patrol]

No, stupid idea :)

[main hazel]

hehe , i guess your also gonna inform me why ? or do i have to find it myself 😄