networking

[topaz patrol]

O2/ Virgin Media O2 and 3/Three

[fallow wing]

oh

well nope

neither of them are here

[topaz patrol]

Then what ISP there has a custom ONT

Or just send a picture

[fallow wing]

there's Bouygues, there's Free and I'm almost sure Orange has a custom one too

Free's routers have the ONT baked in

[silent zenith]

yO

[topaz patrol]

This is a Huawei ONT

[fallow wing]

Orange does the same thing on a couple of their new routers

[fallow wing]

they have different routers yknow

Free alone has 4 routers

[topaz patrol]

This one? Sagemcom

[fallow wing]

the oldest model has a normal off the shelf ONT

[fallow wing]

oh

could have sworn it was a custom design

[topaz patrol]

It's a Sagemcom F@stxxxx

[fallow wing]

the fuck is that name lmfao

[topaz patrol]

replace the x's with numbers

[fallow wing]

ohhhh

fair enough

[topaz patrol]

Their F@st series of combo units are often rebadged and slightly customised

[fallow wing]

ok

but in regards to Free, I'm 110% sure that's a custom design

[topaz patrol]

This?

[fallow wing]

yeah, that's the ultra
there's also the pop, the delta and the revolution (from most recent to oldest design)

[topaz patrol]

It may actually be custom made

Look at that

[fallow wing]

I know it is, I watched a whole report about their R&D dept

[topaz patrol]

Triple play must be popular in France for them to go to all that effort

[fallow wing]

without any exaggeration, they are actually the most innovative ISP in the country
they were the first one to standardize IPv6 years ago

[fallow wing]

lmfao

[fallow wing]

@topaz patrol in any case, I gotta hand it to Free, the reason why there's actual competition among ISPs here is because of them, they have an actual R&D dept that does actual work and prices so low, it actually makes me wonder how the hell are they getting their model to work (or how tf are the other ones managing their pricing)

I kinda miss having a plan with them but they're not available in my area for now

as soon as they are, you can bet your ass I'm gonna sign up for the ultra so fckn quick

8Gbps symetrical with LAN SFP+ ? sign me the fuck up

[topaz patrol]

Because France is a tiny country

[fallow wing]

by all means, explain why is there a situation completely different in the UK and Germany that are in the same size range

two of my german and english friends told me the kind of prices that are available to them, this is predatory bullshit of the highest order

and please the quality of the ISP routers they're getting

GbE only, wifi 5 at best without going completely broke

[topaz patrol]

BT and Deutsche Telekom are why

[fallow wing]

expand

[topaz patrol]

Just the advantage of being a state-owned incumbent

Same deal with Telstra/Telecom in Australia

[fallow wing]

I'm pretty sure the french state has half ownership on Orange
need to double check me on that but it was at least true at some point if it's not anymore

lemme look it up

[topaz patrol]

I would say so

[fallow wing]

13.4% state owned

huh, almost 8% by the employees

[topaz patrol]

Pretty standard

[thin hollow]

how do i make my wifi in my room faster?

the router is downstairs in the lounge

[fallow wing]

you can't just make wifi faster
wifi bandwidth depends on what wifi standard your router is on
if it's on wifi4 or even wifi5, it will be slow
wifi6(E) is already a lot better

[stable mesa]

ipv4 is the best

[fleet field]

I’m upstairs from my router and I get like 20 mbps and in the room with router I get like 360. I’m not allowed to run an Ethernet cord up the stairs. So how do I get faster internet. I’m basically right above the room with the router is it hard to run Ethernet through the wall?

[peak cloak]

depends, is it a NA style home?

[fleet field]

Yes

[peak cloak]

depends on your tools and skillset, if it's an interior or exterior wall, need to be careful of electrical wires, plus you will need to drill to get between floors

[fleet field]

Is there another way like WiFi extenders?

[peak cloak]

if you have coax in the walls, MOCA is as good as ethernet

there's powerline but that's iffy

[fleet field]

I don’t

[peak cloak]

if you are above the router wifi extender won't help

can't make a bad signal good

[fleet field]

Hmm

[fleet field]

Anything else I can do?

[meager ginkgo]

you could get a mesh system with the 6ghz band and place them directly stacked on top of each other (on different floors) - wireless is a last resort though

[fleet field]

Would it be hard to drill through the floor and wall?

[meager ginkgo]

it really depends on the house like said before

you don’t know until you try

[fleet field]

Ok

[peak cloak]

you'll need drywall access holes to get through the floor

[fleet field]

What’s that

[peak cloak]

look how houses are framed. You'll need to drill through the sole plate and double plate

and you'll need a hole big in the drywall to fit a drill

also there may be other utilities you'll need to work around

[fleet field]

Hole that big?

[peak cloak]

and if there's insulation that's also a pain

[peak cloak]

doesn't need to be that big, depends on the equipment you have

[fallow wing]

me, casually laying down network cables on the floor along the wall without any passthrough or covering

[fallow wing]

why are LGA3647 4U square coolers with fans oriented perpendicular to CPU so hard to find

[fallow wing]

question : I want an NVMe RAID for my proxmox, what's the best option ?

• two used U.2 1.6TB drives from ebay (300~400€)
• Hyper M.2 carrier + x3-4 1TB gen3 NVMes (55€ for carrier, ~60€/NVMe)
  -# (and for mass storage, I already have a NAS I need to rebuild, it's just for the boot drives of my VMs)

[random siren]

m.2 will be faster cause bigger raid (if pcie gen is the same) but will have more failure points theoretically if the u.2 can connect directly to the mb

[fallow wing]

yeah, my mobo has 4 (6?) U.2 ports

[opal pagoda]

enterprise ssds are so much better than consumer ones

when you are running lots of vm-s then IOPS matter

are they really 3-400 for used drive?
as thats about how much new ones cost

[fallow wing]

~180$ on ebay US
-150$ on ebay "from china" (which I don't trust at all for that kind of stuff)
280 and up for ebay FR (and Europe)

[thin hollow]

Does a wifi signal extender actually work?

If my wifi is rlly slow in my room but fast everywhere else in my house

[opal pagoda]

It can and will make things worse

[thin hollow]

What should i get instead then

?

[opal pagoda]

Do you have coax near the router and your wifi deadspot?

[thin hollow]

Idk what you mean srry

Im kinda dumb when it comes to networking stuff

[fallow wing]

Why would you want them to install coaxial through the house ? Cat 6(E) is more than capable

[fallow wing]

Must be your walls, if you can't relocate your router, then the only reliable solution would be a cable, if you can pass one along the floor on the corridor or even under carpet, it should be unnoticeable enough for you to use it just fine

[thin hollow]

Ok

Idk how expensive a long enough cable would be

[meager ginkgo]

He doesn’t. I’m assuming he’s talking about MoCA Adapters

lots of homes have coax in the walls already and can use MoCA adapters for 2.5GbE

[thin hollow]

Ok

[silent flax]

the best solution when you can't do cables in walls

[fallow wing]

I bought 15m of cat 6E, was 27€

[thin hollow]

Ok

Thats not too bad

[opal pagoda]

Nope, i would like to know if no additional wiring setup is possible with moca, ofc you wouldn't run coax for Ethernet

[opal pagoda]

Did this, works wonders

[silent flax]

i can't be bothered to replace the ones which came with my house, so for now i run cables taped above them

[stable mesa]

this is genius

[silent flax]

you are seeing this for first time ? 😮

[stable mesa]

too bad my house is already a dumpster

[silent flax]

skirting board or whatever it is called

depends on visuals you are after

[stable mesa]

why do you-

do you live in an ISP or what

or is this just blender

deceptive

[silent flax]

well you can have more than one cable. For example one could have power cable routed there, also an ethernet cable, pair of rear speaker cables, possibly a long HDMI or toslink cable...

if you mean why is it cut, it is a promotional picture showing the internals of it

[stable mesa]

that's what power plugs are for

[silent flax]

yes, and what if the power plug in the wall is 3 meters away and you don't want to hide the extension cable ?

[stable mesa]

move whatever you want to power 3 meters to the plug

[silent flax]

ah yes, i will move my desk with the computer in front of my TV 😄

[stable mesa]

if it's behind a desk no one will see the cable

[silent flax]

yes, but ther is like meter and half of gap between the desk and furniture hiding the power sockets. It was just an example anyway, you could still have the rest. longer ethernet, HDMI, Toslink, speaker cables which you want to hide

[stable mesa]

I like how the illustration has serial cables but no ethernet

is that 1998

or whatever cables

[tacit birch]

how do i do a mesh network and what do i need to buy for one? my budget is around 300€

[hasty niche]

Can anyone find any information on this:
LG LS5124M

More specifically, I'd love to get the manual for it.

[opal pagoda]

http://www3.lge.co.kr/product/network/LG_CiberAPTsolution.pdf
it is in korean tho

[hasty niche]

I already have that pdf

[hasty niche]

It's not service/general manual

I guess it's like an info on the technology/use case for some certain thing

[opal pagoda]

i understand 100mbps from it
that switch is obsolete

[hasty niche]

Yeah, figures...

[stable mesa]

router and cables

[clear igloo]

A mesh router such as TP-Link mesh system
No cables unless you want to do wired links between them but in that case I'd do dedicated APs instead

[strong knot]

Anyone here has a startup idea in mind?

[opal pagoda]

neet thing about using mesh system hardwired compared to dedicated ap is support for fast roam

[clear igloo]

I mean a decent AP or set of APs should support fast roam 😛

but point taken

[opal pagoda]

yup something with a controller

[clear igloo]

I was thinking like Omada APs with cloud controller even but yah, controller somewhere

[silent flax]

heh youtube giving me interesting video for once https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S63Jt45F5YA - for those who think they need to change their ethernet cables 😄 . Short summary - for 10Gbe, Cat5e or Cat8 makes zero differnce for 30 meters/100 feet

[opal pagoda]

cat 7 and 8 are mostly scam anyway (if bought from somewhere like amazon)

[clear igloo]

Yup, find me 25GbE or 40GbE RJ45 gear first 😛

[silent flax]

yeah, it was mostly about Cat5E being just fine for 10Gbe as standalone cable, and Cat6 for any use where interference could be stronger

[plain siren]

Someone hacked our HP printer at work but ratted themselves out in the process

it was a 10/10 moment

[opal pagoda]

upnp?

[plain siren]

no actually, this stupid printer had WiFi Direct broadcasting enabled after a firmware update (I disabled it previously)

[opal pagoda]

aw yep

that will do it

why does the printer even need wifi

[topaz patrol]

Yes

[opal pagoda]

do people not use a printserver?

[topaz patrol]

Crazy people

Papercut makes everything so much easier

[opal pagoda]

we use safeq

[topaz patrol]

Looks expensive lmao

[opal pagoda]

idk how much it costs

[opal pagoda]

papercut also doesent have pricing publicly listed

[topaz patrol]

They only sell through channel partners iirc

[lyric ridge]

Can anybody recommend a simple wired only router? Current network is fiber modem -> Tp-Link Archer AX73 (wifi disabled) -> Tp-Link Deco XE75 in AP mode (x3 devices) for wifi. Can't use the deco as a router because it only has 3 ethernet ports, and I need 4 for modem+3 wired zones. Mini PC + Pfsense seems like overkill, Edgerouter X + Openwrt would be perfect but it doesn't get updates anymore because kernel is too big for internal storage (how I understood anyways).

[topaz patrol]

ER605, done

[opal pagoda]

seconded

[topaz patrol]

They're also super cheap

[opal pagoda]

need more ports/zones?
get a managed switch

[topaz patrol]

If you want PoE and a built in cloud controller, ER7212-PC

[lyric ridge]

I'll look into it, any chance it can boot openwrt? despite the fact I have nothing but tp-link devices I was actually hoping to avoid them because I'm not a huge fan of the webui

[topaz patrol]

I think this is my new favourite Omada product

[topaz patrol]

It uses a different UI

It's part of the Omada line, which is similar to Unifi.

[opal pagoda]

ui in question:

[topaz patrol]

Or you can use the cloud management

[lyric ridge]

Okay, that looks much better.

[opal pagoda]

yea but i dont wanna

[opal pagoda]

license?

[topaz patrol]

We have a couple sites using the TP-Link hosted cloud

And we pay for extra features

[lyric ridge]

sweet, the price is right too! I was half tempted to just buy the wifi 7 deco, but $200+ was not worth it

[topaz patrol]

Those usage numbers are very very wrong, RADIUS is reporting 400GB+ of usage ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opal pagoda]

hmm i could take a spare forti unit for a test drive 🤔

[topaz patrol]

They have a free cloud solution, or you can host the controller yourself for free, or you can use neither

If you're in APAC I can hook you up with free Omada training too 😉

[plain siren]

I couldn't reach it with an Ethernet cable but tbh it's not wifi that's the problem, it's wifi direct

[plain siren]

This is one of their most solid products too.

Omada is basically the fuck you to Ubiquiti and that's why I love it the most.

Bonus points for the fact it actually works

Originally Omada had a literal copy of the Ubiquiti UI because they had lost the copyright rights to their own user interface thanks to some very very shady stuff they did in court and regretted

TP-Link immediately took advantage of this and said okay this is going to be pretty cool and funny let's just copy it

So all of a sudden comes this new product that supports new hardware and a bunch of their old hardware that has been around for upwards of 5 to 7 years already

The copyright was actually still in the user interface for about a year and some of the pages in the Omada UI

Ubiquiti's

But it was hilarious because it did not matter since it no longer applied

[topaz patrol]

TP-Link also has some new DIN mountable Omada switches coming soon

[opal pagoda]

neet

[plain siren]

If you want to read more into this court case and to see just how shady Ubiquiti has been, it's Ubiquiti vs Cambium Networks

[topaz patrol]

I thought I had a picture, but fucking Teams blanked it out

[plain siren]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/7616021/ubiquiti-networks-inc-v-cambium-networks-inc/

This is actually a really funny read because ubiquiti had fired a bunch of lawyers over and over and they also pissed off the courts to the point they started referring to themselves as "I" instead of "This court"

And whenever a judge starts doing that you know you have really really messed up

[topaz patrol]

Fuck UBNT

🙂

[plain siren]

What they had essentially did here was copyright or attempt to copyright some open source software written by Motorola and friends. This was to protect their hardware from Cambium providing firmware of their own that way you can migrate ubiquiti hardware to their cloud controller which was about a thousand times better

[lyric ridge]

Just pulled the trigger on the ER605 v2 thanks everybody!

[plain siren]

Ubiquiti for the cheap hardware cambium for the good software

Ubiquiti did not like that

[topaz patrol]

Cambium for the expensive GPS adapters

[plain siren]

Lol

I hold some reservations against them too Don't worry

But what they did right here was very very very awesome

[opal pagoda]

some kind of precision time protocol switch?

[lyric ridge]

mikrotik hex opinions?

[plain siren]

And the way they actually decided to come down against ubiquiti and follow through earned them my respect

I don't know how much money they wasted but you could tell that it got personal for them

They were dragging it on hoping to bleed ubiquiti dry and I wish they would have succeeded

Also big shout out to their lawyer because he was really funny at times and he also was very patient

He made the other lawyers look like high schoolers

[opal pagoda]

if you want to go mikrotik go with L009UiGS-RM

hex lineup is really old from what i remember

which one are you reffering to?

[plain siren]

Mikrotiks software and firmware make me want to scream at the top of my lungs

[opal pagoda]

havent had the plesure yet

[lyric ridge]

I assumed hex refresh would be fine.... I don't know anything about these to be more specific, just working through google results and it seemed that one was mentioned alongside the ER605 a lot.

[plain siren]

Ill take an SBC with some shit Mips Processor with nothing compiled for it yet than mikrotik tbh. Idk why but id be less frustrated dealing with a skeleton kit than their stuff

[lyric ridge]

alright, so no on mikrotik haha

[opal pagoda]

https://openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/er605_v2
you can run openwrt on er605 if you want

[plain siren]

That's actually a very personal opinion and it's very subjec-.... Hold that thought I need to read whatever top lime just sent first

Ok so the sentiments are the same

[topaz patrol]

Mikrotik for cheap failover

[plain siren]

Honestly their hardware is very fucking odd to me

[opal pagoda]

yup

[plain siren]

Like it will lack certain features or capabilities that you just would never expect something like that to lack

[lyric ridge]

I noticed that, I'm gonna give the stock OS a run first, see how I like it, but nice to have the openwrt backup

[plain siren]

I can ALMOST understand their choices. It's almost justified just by looking at the hardware block layout that they provide for all of their hardware that tells you exactly how everything is linked together

[opal pagoda]

quick make a ubishit page (can be ubiquiti and ubisoft combined)

[plain siren]

Except for the fact that it seems like they never try to work around the limitations of the hardware with actual design decisions and only take stuff and slap it onto a PCB and provide it exactly as it is

[ornate jungle]

Wait, I thought that domain belonged to Ubisoft? 🤔

[plain siren]

I don't remember the model but I do remember there was a limitation with packet switching bandwidth on one of their devices. I also remember looking at the block diagram and realizing that if they would have just stuffed in another buffer between the switching chips and used the dma pins for that, it would've been a non issue

It would have added like $4 to the total cost

[opal pagoda]

atleast they dont crash the backplane like ubiquiti does 😆

[plain siren]

Well that's because it's never actually advanced enough nor does it do enough logic on its own to actually manage that. There's no help when it comes to Mikrotiks config and Management, you have to do everything yourself. When you consider what I said about how they piece together their hardware and then you consider what I just said it makes sense... The product isn't refined enough to actually make that a risk

Which is truly a massive L in reality

That's unrealized value that will remain unrealized

At least ubiquiti tried

But they failed miserably so

I don't know what's better honestly

I would avoid both as much as I would avoid the other

[opal pagoda]

i dont need no UI, console is great

[plain siren]

Even their CLI sucks

It's honestly the logic behind their configuration that sucks the most

Things that you would think it would do for you it doesn't do

[lyric ridge]

wtf is this about? Chinese xenophobia?

[topaz patrol]

Probably

[plain siren]

You also have the option of just not updating the firmware

It has been a long time since I've updated mine and as it stands there's no actual open CVEs

Or problems that I've noticed

[topaz patrol]

On Omada?

[plain siren]

Yeah

I don't use the cloud though

[topaz patrol]

Yeah we have a whole heap of crap that need upgrading,

[opal pagoda]

it is probably refrencing this https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/12/report-us-considers-banning-tp-link-routers-over-security-flaws-ties-to-china/
but you have to separate tplink shittastic consumer lineups from their SOHO/SMB offerings

[plain siren]

It's been a while since I have checked but I actually think that the company that makes Omada and TP-Link are actually different under the hood on the paperwork I need to check again

[topaz patrol]

I think all our OLTs and ONTs need upgrading

[topaz patrol]

Yeah I'm pretty sure they separated everything a couple years ago for this very reason

During the Huawei debacle

[plain siren]

AT&T wants to come out and change my ONT at my apartment and my parents house

Mfw it's no longer existent

uhhhhhhhhhhhh

I don't even remember where I put it

[opal pagoda]

you use sfp+ ont?

[plain siren]

Yes

[topaz patrol]

lol

[opal pagoda]

lol

[topaz patrol]

I don't think they'll ever get updated

[plain siren]

I even tore up all the fiber and redid the pedestal at my parents house

Last time I opened up the pedestal when I went to go remove it it was actually so full of ants that it went straight to the top you could have made an ant farm out of that thing

They ate my foot to hell

I poured gasoline on it lol

I was like FUCK THIS

Tore it out the ground and made a huge mess

Luckily I was the only one using fiber from AT&T on the street

So it really didn't matter

I wonder if they're going to buy the shitty spray painted AT&T logo on the box that I put in its place lol

"yeah it's official"

Fuck fire ants though

[topaz patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

5 years buddy

[plain siren]

That's how much the contractor should get for the shitty job they did before I came in and fixed it

Who the hell just lays fiber cable on top of rocks

[topaz patrol]

sub-sub-sub-sub contractors

[plain siren]

Right

I put some armored cable in conduit and I switched it out to couplings so it's easy to add and remove service lines

[topaz patrol]

Nevermind, 12 months

(a) a carrier; or

(b) a carriage service provider; or

(c) a nominated carrier.

Penalty: Imprisonment for 1 year.```

[plain siren]

I also put pull line

So they can just yoink it

[plain siren]

See the trick is I should just bill them for it

[opal pagoda]

i would call it "upgraded"
so offence is made

[topaz patrol]

I pull this one out whenever someone like Bob wants to use their own SFP ONT

[plain siren]

The cabinet is like a house down too so it was really easy to bury that without anyone noticing.

Mfw it was laying on top of the dirt

Idk how no one cut it up until that point

[opal pagoda]

unplug ont
plug in a shitiest, highest power VFL
watch the olt get it

[plain siren]

The only thing that really annoyed me was finding out that whoever did the original terminations inside the cabinet did such a bad job that there was a ton of noise

So I had to go back a few days later and re-terminate a lot of it inside the cabinet

The numbers were 10x better across the board

[opal pagoda]

got this thing, works great
does anyone know a better miracast stick?

i am testing a couple of them, next culprit is ezcast ultra

[topaz patrol]

Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter?

[opal pagoda]

it is discontinued

[topaz patrol]

They have a v2 iirc

[plain siren]

I'm so happy I have a bunch of them

[opal pagoda]

Microsoft stoped making accessories

[topaz patrol]

Ah

Nevermind

[plain siren]

They are honestly so good

[topaz patrol]

Why Miracast?

[plain siren]

It's one of the few things I actually am happy to have a bunch of for no reason

[topaz patrol]

Give Barco a couple grand for a Clickshare box. They're great

[opal pagoda]

bc it is so much better than the shitty Barco clickshares

[topaz patrol]

Lol

[plain siren]

Barco can fuck off

[opal pagoda]

on windows 11 90% of the time their dongle doesent register and laptop needs to be restarted lmao

[topaz patrol]

You probably just need to buy new dongles :p

[opal pagoda]

it is happening with new dongle too

[topaz patrol]

CX-30?

Oh wait it's probably a cheaper one

[opal pagoda]

using miracast also allows me to unify sharing in videoconvernce rooms (cisco roombar/roomkits) and meeting rooms (currently barco)

[topaz patrol]

Have you considered just moving everyone to macOS and installing Apple TVs?

[opal pagoda]

airplay is so shitty workaround of miracast lmao
their wifi chipsets couldnt connect to 2 ap's at the same time so they made their own protocol

[topaz patrol]

Still works better than Miracast 90% of the time ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[long oyster]

whats a better solution for a wifi extender or wifi repeater?

[ornate jungle]

Wired Ethernet, or in situations where you can't run Ethernet, sometimes PowerLine AV, though the speed and reliability of PowerLine AV largely depends on your building's electrical wiring.

[peak cloak]

^ or moca if you have coax wiring

[silent flax]

they are mostly extinct because pretty much all TVs have it builtin for like last decade

[silent flax]

i started using wireless HDMI lately for things where miracast is not available, like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006966173744.html (there are tons of different ones, some 4k, some 1080p, bigger, smaller...)

[opal pagoda]

yup but projectors mostly dont have it.
its wierd cheap and mid range ones have it and enterprise units dont have it
currently we are using optoma ZU500T-W which still do preaty good job

[silent flax]

i would say get android/google tv stuff, like the google tv stick/mi box s/shield tv

they are miracast receivers

[opal pagoda]

havent tought about shield tv 🤔

[silent flax]

i mean no need to go for the most expensive solution. If 1080p is all you need, the basic Google TV stick might be all you need

[opal pagoda]

Most expensive solution is still cheaper than fuckin barco so it is ok

[silent flax]

i just mean Google TV is like $40 or so, Mi Box S is like $60, Google TV 4K is like $60-$80, Shield TV is $130 ? And unless you need 4k output, shield tv and google tv 4k might be pointless, unless you want to use other android tv features too

but of course if you already own the shield tv, it is a $0 solution 😄

[opal pagoda]

Idealy i would like to be able to customise home screen so i can do my own branding

[silent flax]

i think customizing https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.projengmenu might be solution for that, but not 100% sure, don't have non-builtin Android TV devices right now

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll Debating buying a R740(xd) and putting the Supermicro X10 2U at home as a replacement to either the R620 or DL360pG8 at home. I want at least 2 servers at home for redundancy but I hate how loud the Supermicro is at the apartment.

Dual E5-2650 v4, 128GB of RAM is a big upgrade over dual E5-2650 and 64GB of RAM the servers at home have

[waxen scroll]

time to move to cloud

[rocky badge]

I hate clickshares

[rocky badge]

I don't wanna move everythinggggg

[waxen scroll]

muh pandoras box

[rocky badge]

I have thought about moving DNS to aws but idk

I use so much DNS internally and I don't wanna loose DNS internally when the internet goes out

[rocky badge]

Like the media server?

[waxen scroll]

from christie

[rocky badge]

Yea

Never programmed on those but some other media servers before lol

[livid pewter]

Where the nerds at?

[waxen scroll]

Have you ever used a grandMA 3 with 4 universes?

[livid pewter]

wrong kind of nerd

[waxen scroll]

Networking and theater people go hand in hand

right @rocky badge ?

[livid pewter]

But I was hoping for a virtualization nerd :(

[waxen scroll]

those are in #linux

[opal pagoda]

all my homies hate clickshares

[waxen scroll]

I like clickbait

[rocky badge]

oh lord

[waxen scroll]

I got a new guy on my team who does theater/broadcasting on the side

[rocky badge]

Thankfully I don't touch lighting network anymore. Only audio & video

[opal pagoda]

esxi nerds after broadcom

[rocky badge]

Lighting fucked off to their own networking hardware

[waxen scroll]

did they though? its just vlans. you can use anything

[livid pewter]

True... but I do like their stuff tbh

[rocky badge]

Yeah no longer on my hardware

Completely separate

The next project is migrating audio addressing lol

Just gotta find a quiet time

bc there's too much shit I would rather do it when I can have it all at once

[opal pagoda]

Thats it?

O boi i have lots of vlans
Generaly one vendor gets its own vlan and there is loads of vendors in our production

[waxen scroll]

i laugh because a backup console is required in the first place

just incase windows crashes

[rocky badge]

This is just our own network. Nobody else connects lol

[rocky badge]

MA3 is not Windows

MA2 wasn't Windows either

MA is Linux based

[waxen scroll]

oh? Last one I used was 1

[rocky badge]

But yeah a backup is typical lol. The MA3 Processor can be a backup as well

Our lighting network is simple. Lighting FOH support rack switch <-> lighting dimmer beach rack switch -> lighting nodes

[livid pewter]

Hey so um...anyone familar with vmware stuff?

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll

newest additions

for video lol

[waxen scroll]

is that a different opengear than the people who make console servers?

[rocky badge]

Yeah

https://www.opengear.tv/

modular card style for video

[waxen scroll]

lol wat, I just noticed "av line"

I did not know that was a thing

[rocky badge]

Yeah its a netgear switch with an "AV GUI"

[waxen scroll]

oh, gross

[rocky badge]

Which is just profiles certified to do different AV vendors of shit

"one click just works AVoIP"

Sets multicast, PTP, IGMP, QoS, etc.

[waxen scroll]

all of that is a pain in the ass

[rocky badge]

Ngl I use the profiles bc it does just work

but I turn off every other "smart" feature

Like Auto-Trunk and Auto-LAG

I don't want the switches deciding trunking and lacp

but I do like the design

[waxen scroll]

almost every large company turns off auto trunking, LAG, pruning and VTP

[rocky badge]

rear ports, different mounting brackets, M10/M12 mounting, etc.

[waxen scroll]

(waiting for UM AXUALLYs)

[rocky badge]

The rear ports are nice in a rack and recessed in there lol

[waxen scroll]

I'd like to show you mine but I will get in trouble

[rocky badge]

lol

Although I am happy everything is IP based

Well, mostly everything

[waxen scroll]

We dont even really have a lab anymore. No budget. Modern networking is so expensive now

[rocky badge]

We don't do video over IP

bc fuck NDI and going SMPTE 2110 is expensive as fuck

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo license me, bby

[rocky badge]

We don't really have the budget for 100/400g switching

So next best thing, sdi over fiber

[waxen scroll]

I'm planning to move to 4x100Gs over 400

nicer to just have 4 spines instead of two with 100G

@rocky badge why? because the business actually argues "Well you're taking one offline for upgrade, now we're not redundant so you cant have your window"

[rocky badge]

lol

yeah

[waxen scroll]

with 4 now each leaf only needs one uplink to each spine instead of multiple

you can do smaller spines that way

[rocky badge]

Dante is a bandwidth hog though lol

[waxen scroll]

whats the bit rate

[rocky badge]

One time I saw 8gbps of Dante going through a trunk

96k

[waxen scroll]

eh

[rocky badge]

dante stage boxes, console ties, PA, video audio, etc. when we only have 10g links at some places its quite a bit lol

[clear igloo]

where money?

[rocky badge]

no monies

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo Minisforum MS-01 for apartment Proxmox cluster????

[clear igloo]

do it

[rocky badge]

R6415 & Supermicro X10 can go to my parents house and be as loud as they want

Buy a R740xd and 3 MS-01s for apartment

R740xd truenas with SSD & HDDs, MS-01 with local NVMe Ceph together. iSCSI SSD for bulk VM storage. HDDs for Plex & backup

[turbid ridge]

Can anyone recommend a good managed switch w/ 6 ports, vlan support, & link aggregation?

I'm setting up a home lab with a blade sever (4 nodes) and am looking for good equipment.

If it helps:

Server: 2U 24 Bay 4 Node SATA SAS3 12gbps Server X10DRT-P S 8x Xeon 112 Core 256GB DDR4

[rocky badge]

Debating getting rid of that Cisco Nexus btw @clear igloo, its so loud as well

[clear igloo]

lol, I told you it's loud 😛

[rocky badge]

Its half the Cisco and half the Supermicro

[clear igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-loud-makeitstop-no-noisy-gif-6201899975687690191

[rocky badge]

yikesssss

$679/per node + NVME for them + RAM

[clear igloo]

well yah, not cheap but can you REALLY put a price on silence? 😛

[rocky badge]

I guess

64gb ram max

damn

The CPUs do 96GB I wonder if that's a mobo

holy fuck

[clear igloo]

or are they DDR4 varaints?

[rocky badge]

ddr5

I mean

yeah the servers are kinda loud

but through 2 doors in my office I can't hear them. They just get hot

[clear igloo]

Looks like it does support 2x48GB kits

[rocky badge]

Also I don't wanna really spend moneyyyyyy

I need to saveeee

[clear igloo]

But the 96GB is only on the 13900 version

Then save, invest in noise dampening instead

[rocky badge]

this is what I hear at my desk rn

its not horrible

[opal pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-gif-27093421

watercool it

[rocky badge]

lol

[rocky badge]

Idk any alternative that isn't super loud

[silent flax]

you reminded me of the stupid joke

[opal pagoda]

nexuses are so damn loud

watercool them too

[pine tinsel]

Dumb question, messing around with an AP at home, does this speed on the UniFi network dashboard show the speeds that is being used on it at the moment, or the speeds it's putting out?

As in, that's the speed of the connection being provided to it, or that's the throughput from a device that's connected to it?

[untold elbow]

That’s the current total data rate of all devices, not the throughput capacity of the whole AP

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo I am so scared to put a small little NUC act as a server for some network tools in a rack at work because I'm scared the OS will just corrupt 🤣

I'd love a network monitoring, unifi controller, syslog server, and such at work for our show network but I'm scared its just gonna die

[waxen scroll]

I dont see why it would

[clear igloo]

Just RAID, ez

[rocky badge]

ppl don't shutdown stuff in racks like that

if its in the rack the ups power button just gets held down and turned off there

i guess I could put the OS on a read only file system and mount another for data

[waxen scroll]

I was just typing that lol

[rocky badge]

lol

[silent flax]

how often did you seen Linux corrupt itself just like that ? Worst that usually happens is that when you run out of space, you need to log in, delete files and possibly restat

[rocky badge]

Just don't want a chance

[silent flax]

how would using a "retail server" change anything ? Only difference could be ECC and remote management ?

[waxen scroll]

My dashcam has a capacitor in it that helps detect power loss to stop recording before the file corrupts

[silent flax]

i have yet to understand this corruption issue. install proxmox and run other stuff in VMs ?

[rocky badge]

no space

plus noise lol

[silent flax]

no, i mean how retail server vs nuc make difference in "corruption" and "it will just die"

[rocky badge]

I'm not saying there's any difference lol

[silent flax]

if anything, NUC will run better in server environment because of the lower ambient temperature. So server vs NUC differences comes down to NUC usually not having ECC and remote managment. NUC Pro probably has remote management via vPro/AMT; not sure if ECC is a thing. the Dell/HP/Lenovo mini PCs could have those features.

I would personally see no issue running stuff on non-ECC system unless you really want that extra level of protection against super-rare flip bitting once in a lifetime event; and lack of remote management can be solved by external solutions these days

[rocky badge]

I mean a real server isn't gonna fit in the rack, plus I never really mentioned ecc. Remote management idc about that much. Lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silent flax]

then just buy whatever fits your CPU/RAM/storage requirements and call it a day. Run Proxmox as base OS and virtualize everything else.

[vernal depot]

I might or might not have put my personal UDM Pro in harms way to get the UDM Pro at my office updated

I should’ve made sure it wouldn’t cause any later issues…but, will it cause issues later?

I did a config backup for the Office UDM Pro
Updated Office UDM Pro
Office UDM Pro would not read config backup
Was able to install Office UDM Pro backup on my personal UDM Pro (which I did back-up, and brought with me to the office)
Created Office UDM Pro backup using personal UDM Pro
Installed backup on Office UDM Pro and so far is working
Factory Reset my UDM Pro

Will this cause any later issues?

[topaz patrol]

vPro 🤮

[violet needle]

hh

[thick minnow]

hi all, my ap have internet but wirelessly it doesnt work any idea what could be wrong?

[tribal cape]

https://a.co/d/79fph1m

Is this enough for opensense and kodi?

I'd slap in another 2tb m.2 drive.

[opal pagoda]

wierd that it doesent have 2.5g networking

[tribal cape]

I don't see my area getting fiber anytime in the next five years, and 1gig is the fastest cable internet available here.

[silent flax]

how do you want to run OpenSense and Kodi on it at same time ?

[silent flax]

even sadder is that the N100 mini PC i used doesn't exist anymore

[tribal cape]

yes

[silent flax]

so how do you want to run a FreeBSD router and a desktop application at same time on same HW ?

[tribal cape]

Ah, dammit. You're right.

It won't run as a service in a windows environment

Welp, I guess I will just use that for opsense and go back to the drawing board for my media server replacment.

[silent flax]

but by itself, until you push demanding features like QoS or VPN, pretty much any system will do just fine, remember that most routers are like dualcore 1-1.5GHz ARM CPUs. So a quadcore N100 will run circles around most tasks.

VPN and QoS can be demanding as you would have to inspect or encrypt packets, but most likely it will be still just fine.

[silent flax]

things we can see on Amazon... https://www.amazon.com/Healuck-Support-Desktop-Computer-Diskless/dp/B0D5VMTTBW

the PCB is very interesting 😄

[opal pagoda]

if they took 150-200$ from the price it would be ok

[silent flax]

unfortunately i think they are looking at what ugreen asks and decided that that price is fair in the market 😄

[clear igloo]

proxmox?

[silent flax]

and what would give him the display output ? unless he wants to run GUI and Kodi directly on host and OPN inside a VM. Which would be weird idea

[tribal cape]

Nah. I am rethinking the whole thing now. I definietly want to keep my hardwares seperate.

I might just use one of these n150s as a media server alone and get a UXG-Max for my new router.

[clear igloo]

OH! I'm thinking plex/jellyfin

[silent flax]

well what Magic wanted is to have a GUI app and router on same HW. Not a media server and router on same HW.

Like sure, stuff like running Plex/Jellyfin in Docker and NAS/storage on something like OpenWRT is doable. But GUI apps is rather impossible

[smoky estuary]

I'm currently torn between two Access Point Options and need some advice on finally choosing an option.
At the moment, I have a tp-link omada EAP610 (Wi-Fi 6) access point at the back of my house but was wanting to bring wifi 7 into the house with multi-gigabit wifi.
As of writing, I've narrowed my choices down to two options:

• tp-link BE9300 EAP772
  https://www.scan.co.uk/products/tp-link-eap772-be9300-wi-fi-7-access-point-1x-25gbe-poe-24ghz-5ghz-6ghz-5760plus2880plus574mbps-8021
• Ubiquiti U7-Pro
  https://www.scan.co.uk/products/ubiquiti-u7-pro-ceiling-mounted-wifi-7-ap-with-6-spatial-streams-and-6ghz

I've heard Ubiquiti is great but after doing some research, from what I can tell, I'd be limited to 1gbps on the ethernet port unless I went out and bought an entirely new POE switch or a PoE Injector which would be quite costly.
As for the tp-link BE9300 EAP772, assuming it either uses the same power supply as my existing unit (which I don't use) or that it comes with one, I wouldn't need to use this option.
Just to add as well, I don't have any controller hardware for my existing Omada access point and have been happy with it so being able to use the APs standalone is a must.
What option would I be best going for?

[rocky badge]

I mean both APs you will need a 2.5g switch lol

PoE on it would be ideal

Ubiquiti sells a PoE+ 2.5G injector for $19

[smoky estuary]

The only ones I can find on the UK site seem to be gigabit, I already have a 2.5gb switch but it's not PoE

My existing AP only has gigabit at the moment and I'm using just some cheap tplink Poe+ injector with it at the moment

Found it, the website just seems to randomly hide the options when changing the Poe spec, this puts the ubiquiti option as within reach

[fickle lily]

has any one experienced this ::Port FastEthernet4 is off: Hardware pin disables all ports

Before this start a fan failed then all went down the rabid hole

[steep jungle]

Anyone here with experience with bind and rev dns?

[topaz patrol]

https://dontasktoask.com

[long scarab]

fuck fibre man, this shit's ass

going back to ethernet

[topaz patrol]

Huh?

What are you trying to do

[clear igloo]

Yah, I just was thinking wrong app 🙂

[silent flax]

he might be cooking the SFP modules due lack of airflow

[topaz patrol]

I was more meaning that he’s almost certainly still using Ethernet, even if fibre is the medium

[topaz patrol]

Also those pluggables look ancient

[topaz patrol]

That’s a 20+ year old Cisco logo lol

[silent flax]

to be fair, aren't we all using 10+ years old 10Gbe NICs becasue they are finally cheap? 😄

[clear igloo]

Well to be fair they're all gigabit SFP modules

[silent flax]

i have a sad X540-T2 and a 10Gbe SFP+ RJ45 module sitting in storage cause i swapped it for ConnectX3 😄

[clear igloo]

Nice

[silent flax]

ali had crazy coupons through their stupid games back then

[clear igloo]

Damn! That's cheap!!

[silent flax]

(they also added a 3 meter cable for some reason instead of 1m, but i am not complaining)

[topaz patrol]

You can still get “new” 10/100 pluggables!

[clear igloo]

oh for sure

Just that I wasn't surprised with the old logo given they're gigabit is what I was trying to say

[topaz patrol]

Oh lol

[thick star]

whats the best wifi extender with 2 ethernets ports around?

[sullen coral]

so is the aliexpress netorking stuff reliable? I'm about to compleatly overhaul my gaming setup and hopefully add a small homelab thing and I seen I can get a Jbod for way less than I can get even a used one on ebay for, or even just a server chassis to convert it into a jbod. thinking just get that and a used raid card with an external sas port for $60 and those are only like $40 so I could get a das for $100ish not counting drives

[long scarab]

but it's cheap

[long scarab]

yes, im going back to copper ethernet

[opal pagoda]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5515370

you could do that

[sullen coral]

seen that as well I don't have a 3d printer atm and this is mostly to help my drive hoarding problem. I go to thrift shops and buy dvr's and they normally have 500gb-2tb hdds and I save any above 1tb. $10-$30 each dvr for game drives isn't a half bad price and as long as I use some form of raid with redunancy I shouldn't loose data ubless something catastrophic happens

[long scarab]

haven't gotten any DVRs at my thrift store

[opal pagoda]

you can rig something up with this

[long scarab]

i did find a solis wifi hotspot last year and got a $130 device for $3

[opal pagoda]

also dont forget that sas expanders exist so you dont really need to connect every drive to sas hba

[sullen coral]

this is what I am looking at just has 2 sas8087 on the back and either sata or molex power

I found some for $30 on aliexpress

[opal pagoda]

sure

how much is shipping tho

[sullen coral]

big and heavy so more expensive

ooh I found some raid cards I could use 2 of those jbods with

well 4 at 6Gb/s speeds but I want the full 12Gb/s speed

[opal pagoda]

you wont even use sas 12 drives

for sata it is same

[sullen coral]

lol I have 5 drives so far and 3 are compleatly full. I backup all my blurays to disk and like to have a good 10-20 games downloaded at a time because my internet doesn't work when its cloudy

[compact oak]

Ok gang i have an issue

I would like to connect IoT devices to my dorm internet but they only use a 5ghz band where all of the devices i have only use 2.4ghz. How can i get a 2.4ghz network?

[ornate jungle]

You likely can't - not without asking the IT / Network admins, or installing your own router, which almost always is a violation of dorm / school policy. Even if you could connect the IoT devices to the 5GHz network, a properly setup public / semi-private managed network (like say... at a public library or in a dorm room) should have AP Isolation enabled. This prevents client devices (phones, laptops, tablets, etc.) from being able to see / talk to each other. It's a security thing.
https://www.tp-link.com/ca/support/faq/2089/

[compact oak]

I setup a hotspot on my pc and i can get my rgb strip to work

But i dont really want to use that to run all of my devices

[ornate jungle]

I'd be careful with that - some dorms / schools actively look for rogue networks. If they trace the broadcast source to you, they may take punitive action, including expulsion from the school, or worse.

[compact oak]

Im considering getting a router and making it hidden

[ornate jungle]

Hiding the SSID doesn't hide the BSSID / beacon packets. Any enterprise WiFi hardware worth it's salt will immediately detect a rogue hidden network. We use Meraki gear at work 🤢 🤮 it alerts us to rogue networks all the time.

[compact oak]

Im not even sure what theyre using

The only thing they seem to do is make us register our devices

I could probably talk to some IT people and see what i can do

Maybe i could convince one to turn on my APs 2.4ghz antenna

As doubtful as that is

[ornate jungle]

Turning on the 2.4GHz antenna won't matter if they have AP Isolation enabled. Think about it. Would you want everyone else who's also connecting to the same AP to instantly have access to your IoT devices? AP Isolation prevents this. If they don't have it enabled... I'd be concerned about connecting any device to their WiFi.

[compact oak]

In theory only the people closest to me should be connecting to this AP. But still they have their own AP in their dorm

The main thing i want to run which has an issue is a 3D printer

But the one i am looking at should connect to the cloud and it should be able to print through that without needing to talk to any local devices.

[topaz patrol]

IoT devices that use WiFi suck - Have you considered using Matter/Zigbee/Zwave?

[compact oak]

I cant with the 3d printer

[topaz patrol]

What about the other devices?

[compact oak]

The other device i have is matter

Theres no other way to control the rgb strip. It has to be connected to wifi.

[topaz patrol]

Well that's very shit

[compact oak]

Thats how every rgb strip i have found works

[topaz patrol]

The light strips I have in my kitchen don't

[compact oak]

Do they use a remote

[topaz patrol]

One's philips hue (which is ridiculously expensive) and the other uses matter

[compact oak]

Philips hue is wifi with extra steps

[topaz patrol]

The matter one was pretty cheap

[topaz patrol]

No?

[compact oak]

If you want it to do fancy stuff it is

[topaz patrol]

It's just zigbee

[topaz patrol]

Nope

[compact oak]

Philips hue kinda sucks for what im going for anyway

[topaz patrol]

The bridge does need a connection to your network, if that's what you mean

[topaz patrol]

I wasn't suggesting it - Because it's way too expensive for what it is

[compact oak]

It would only do one color per device

Whereas this strip i have setup right now is individually addressable

[ornate jungle]

No? They have LED strips that do multiple colors at one time.
https://www.philips-hue.com/en-ca/products/smart-light-strips/indoor-led-strip-lights

[compact oak]

I omitted the part where i said using the software i have

The devs havent figured out how to do that yet because they arent willing to spend all that money for likely no reason.

Anyway this is a much lesser issue. I dont actually care about the rgb strip. It works fine how it is. I want a way to connect the 3d printer I am planning to purchase.

[topaz patrol]

I would suggest not - It's almost certainly going to get you in trouble

[compact oak]

I will reach out to the IT department then

[ornate jungle]

They will likely chuckle, they say no. But go for it.

[topaz patrol]

Their answer will likely just be a no - Having unattended 3D printers in a school building is a no-no

[compact oak]

They have dozens of them

Even the same brand as the one I want

[ornate jungle]

Right, but they're likely running in a controlled environment, locked down to communication over a specific VLAN on their network. (If not... I wonder what their fire insurance costs? 🤣 )

[compact oak]

What does networking have to do with fire insurance

I go to an engineering college we have much more dangerous machinery than 3d printers

[ornate jungle]

Well see, let's say you're coming into the 3D printing lab late one night cause ya want to print a little boaty mcboatface. Ya connect to all the printers, configure them using settings that cause their extruder nozzles to plug up, after which they overheat and BOOM! You're cooking with fire!

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-uh-oh-fire-marshal-firemarshal-gif-6256283

[topaz patrol]

It shows that they were aware that you have a 3D printer in your dorm

[compact oak]

Thats... not possible???

A clogged extruder or nozzle would not cause a fire

[topaz patrol]

You’re assuming that the safety features work 🙂

[compact oak]

They do

[topaz patrol]

Not always

[compact oak]

Yes always

[topaz patrol]

There’s always a risk

[compact oak]

Not really

[topaz patrol]

Not always

[topaz patrol]

Yes, there very much is

[ornate jungle]

Until someone disables them. Point is, ZERO TRUST network security is the only real way to do it in public environments.

[compact oak]

The safety features of a modern 3d printer will stop anything bad from happening even if its not happening

If it works when it doesnt need to then its going to work when it does need to

[compact oak]

You cant. Not on these printers.

[ornate jungle]

sigh anyway. no point arguing here. Talk to your campus IT staff if you must. Tis the only way.

[topaz patrol]

Even then - I’m sure melting plastic in a dorm for hours at a time isn’t exactly something the safety committee would be too fond of

[compact oak]

Ultimaker and bambulab do not want you messing with their settings. Disabling safety features is not possible on them

[topaz patrol]

I don’t care what you do, just be prepared to get laughed at

[compact oak]

I think the safety committee should be more focused on the immense amount of black mold we have in every room

Or the asbestos filled walls of this >100 year old building

Or the incredible amount of dust caused by the construction down the hall

[topaz patrol]

Ah! Fire is definitely not a concern then! 🤣

[compact oak]

In fact i think my 3d printer will be the safest thing in the building

[compact oak]

Asbestos is fireproof and self extinguishing

So no not even a little bit

[topaz patrol]

Yep, that’s why we humans loved it so much.

But when it is in a fire, it becomes nice and dangerous

[compact oak]

If there is a fire in this building its really not much of a me problem

The university will have to find a way to house all ~850 of the residents but thats not an issue for me

[ornate jungle]

IDK... Asbestos helps keep out the rats and the numbers make a happy face in Cave's calculator so I see no problems here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohyWYxNKU4

[stoic hedge]

I can’t remember if rogue 2.4 are detected if those radios aren’t being used. Also should be client isolation, not AP isolation.
Just use zigbee/zwave, wifi sucks.

[ornate jungle]

While I agree it should be Client Isolation, most networking products call it AP Isolation because reasons. Silly industry.

[stoic hedge]

just pulled up Meraki and Mist settings

i dont feel like going into vSZ 😅

[thin hedge]

how much more latency/how much slower would a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W be compared to the Raspberry Pi 4 2Gb in the use case of a PiKVM? How much worse would a TrueNAS/other nas operating system running a virtual machine with ported GPU be?

[thick star]

what setting should i have WOL& shutdown link speed at? not speed down, 10mbps first or 100mbps first

[opal pagoda]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954937547514081342/1334256207095009365/VID_20250128_114845.mp4?ex=679bde6d&is=679a8ced&hm=c00bbaa0c0af1aa79663639814d1fd7f50ae21e4e419fbab13b1e0c593596f64&
dual nexus noise + CRAH

[clear igloo]

REEEEEEE 😛
Just wait until you get some of the 2RU boxes, they're even worse

[opal pagoda]

really

i tought they would be quieter since fans are larger

[clear igloo]

Nah, GX2 boxes are stupid loud

Having to cool those up to 30w optics per port 🙂

[clear igloo]

I've got to go into the office tomorrow, will try to remember to grab some audio from one

[thick minnow]

https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/raspberry-pi.html

[opal pagoda]

just get a nanoKVM
it is ready to use and costs 25-30$

[thick minnow]

I use these

[pseudo blade]

Ah, but how do you use them?
Arduinos are just fancy microcontroller holders, without code it's just a very complicated low-current 5/3.3v power supply

[mild prism]

i've been getting horrible lag spikes, packet bursts, latency variation, but my wifi speeds are perfectly fine and I had an my ISP send a technician over which made no difference either

[thin hedge]

Is NanoKVM better?

[gilded escarp]

i need a new replacement router due to my ee one ports are limited to 1gb. i am wanting something similiar to my ee smart hub pro that has 1 or two 2.5gb including 2.5gb wan port

[topaz patrol]

er707 m2

[gilded escarp]

who makes that

[topaz patrol]

TP-Link

[gilded escarp]

so connected the wan port to the switch

then the switch to the pc

and keep my router just for wifi ?

[topaz patrol]

What switch?

[gilded escarp]

oh

[topaz patrol]

?

[gilded escarp]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Router-SafeStream-ER707-M2-M-WAN/dp/B0C3XLCD3X

oh, its a router

[topaz patrol]

That’s not a switch

[gilded escarp]

whats the wifi like on it

[topaz patrol]

Do you have 2gig internet?

[topaz patrol]

It doesn’t have WiFi 🙂

[gilded escarp]

1.6 gbps

however my hub has only 1gb ports on it

[topaz patrol]

By “hub” I’m assuming the modem/NTD/ONT box where the fibre goes into?

[gilded escarp]

no, I mean my router only has 1gb ports on it

[topaz patrol]

Okay?

[gilded escarp]

yeah, i want to replace it

[topaz patrol]

That’s why you’re buying a new one 🙂

[gilded escarp]

it is

[topaz patrol]

Look at that

[gilded escarp]

yeah, my current router has wifi 7 tri band and such

[topaz patrol]

Okay

So you can use your current router as a WiFi access point

[gilded escarp]

ye

[topaz patrol]

Problem solved

[gilded escarp]

i can get it for like 156

plus i will still have good wifi

i saw allot of cheap wifi 7 routers but it was only like dual band

[topaz patrol]

Yep

Do you have a 2.5gig switch?

[gilded escarp]

i do not

network switch ?

[topaz patrol]

How many 2.5gig devices do you have

[topaz patrol]

Yes

[gilded escarp]

pc only

[topaz patrol]

Oh okay that’s all good then

[gilded escarp]

i am replacing the wan cable the isp sent which is like 5E with a CAT6 one, A CAT6 Ethernet LAN Cable RJ45

so long as it has the rj45 red connector it should be fine

https://www.amazon.co.uk/CSL-High-Speed-Broadband-Compatible-Raspberry/dp/B014FBYY9C

just got a 1m one of these because my ont and router are pretty much close to each other

the router sits on my desk

[opal pagoda]

It is plug and play solution

https://youtu.be/XnkQKn67qzM

[silent flax]

i suspect my IBM M1015 (aka LSI SAS2008 based card) finally kicked the bucket... In last month, it kept failing few days after powering on the server. Today i finally replaced it with another LSI card, let's see if it keeps failing (thus it could be the cable or the system itself then), if not, then RIP. Was a nice run, around a decade or so

[silent flax]

i like that there is finally competition for non-integrated remote KVM solutions

[opal pagoda]

yup it is excelent that we get a choice

it all started with pikvm but that is over 100$ total

[silent flax]

technically for me it started with these things 😄 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005287125116.html

the "Tuya PRO" thing means i can remotely power on/off and reset the system via the Tuya app (Smart Life)

which for me is the most important part of the KVM functionality. Yes, display/remote control is nice, but power on/off when i am 150km away is more important

[opal pagoda]

tbh just smart outlet is good
just configure bios to start on ac

[silent flax]

that is a solution too, but i prefer this. of course it means it eats up one x1 slot just for power, but oh well

[true steeple]

i plan on buying "Mercusys Halo H30G" but its not on compatible list with my router "TP Link Archer Vr2100" so i dont know what to do

should i but a tp-link mesh system ?

[opal pagoda]

wdym compatable list

if you put that archer in bridge mode you can use anything behind it

[true steeple]

there is a page that it shows which routers you can use it with

[true steeple]

i dont know what that means i dont have any knowledge about these

[opal pagoda]

could you please screenshot or link that page?

also what are you trying to do?
replace the current router?
add that additional router for wifi coverage?
some other use case?

[true steeple]

https://www.mercusys.com/en/solution/easymesh/#compatible-products

[true steeple]

more coverage

[opal pagoda]

do you have a ethernet cable ran to the place with bad wifi?

or could you run one?

[true steeple]

not possible

[opal pagoda]

you will need a mesh system then
one you linked is dual band and those are not reccomended as there is no dedicated band for communication between the units, it is reccomended to go with tri band mesh system, possibly with 3rd band being on 6ghz
main unit will need to be configured as a router which means you will need to put current router in a bridge mode.

[true steeple]

alright thanks

[compact oak]

Good news gamers. The IT department got back to me and they confirmed that they do 2.4ghz and they are more than happy to let my 3d printer on the network

Dorm 3d printer is possible

[thin hedge]

Yay

[thin hedge]

Can recommend octopi

[compact oak]

Its a bambulab

I dont need any of that

[thin hedge]

Nice

[topaz patrol]

Mercusys is TP-Link anyway

[tawdry blaze]

Hello

[wintry pike]

i want to run an ethernet cable, how to i remove a trunk cover that has been painted over?

[lament scarab]

I've got a Ubiquiti USG and a pc that could be used for opnsense but idk what method to use. I dont have any ubiquiti stuff so the ecosystem stuff isnt a huge draw. I wanna boot my fios router cuz it's over a decade old and i dont know if it's getting and updates. I just prioritize security and vpn support. I really dont know what option is best for me

[peak cloak]

wdym by trunk cover

[peak cloak]

ah, you just kinda have to use force I guess

try to maybe get a screwdriver or knife to get through the paint

[wintry pike]

rarrrrrrrrrrfgpkjaddsdjlkjgkj

[gilded escarp]

apart from tp link ER707-M2 Omada Multi-Gigabit and I was looking at the gli.net gl mt6000 flint 2 as possible upgrade to my current router which is limited to 1gbps

[covert venture]

probably a weird question but im curious to know how much internet data is used per hour on an xbox 360 online game like modern warefare 2?? looking to know what i cab get away with on a hotspot box (cant get regular ingernet where i live)

[smoky estuary]

I've got the flint 2 and love it, I quite like the fact AdGuard is preinstalled, it's just a single on/off switch in the web UI to enable it and that's it.
The wireguard server and included DDNS work great as well.
My main issue is that trying to use with a usb drive for smb is awful for both performance and reliability, just weird ass behaviours such as files losing write/read perms and disconnects on smb, so don't try to use it as a NAS.
Other than that, I'd totally recommend it given the price.

[sullen coral]

Box cutter along the seam to cut the paint works well

[gilded escarp]

hows the wifi on it

[smoky estuary]

Haven't had any problems with it, range is also quite good, I can saturate my internet connection when I'm in the same room as it. I'll be able to do some better performance tests when I get home.
As for device compatibility, I haven't noticed any weirdness with devices not connecting to it.

[gilded escarp]

i was thinking that or toplime suggestion which is the tp link ER707-M2 Omada Multi-Gigabit and keeping my current isp router for wifi

[smoky estuary]

You sure that plan would work? Usually putting an ISP Router in modem/bridge mode where I live disables the wifi on it

I'm not sure if your ISP makes it possible to reuse as just an AP without the router functionality enabled but that to me seems unlikely as I've never heard of anyone doing it

[gilded escarp]

just replace the router entirely then ?

cause the flint 2 has the 2.5gbe wan port and 2.5gb lan port i need

[smoky estuary]

But does it let you use it's access point in that mode though?

[mystic latch]

I'm feeling dumb here. I created a new vlan just for the kids for the purposes of setting a school night schedule only for them. I'm relatively sure my rules for the interface are good, yet I'm testing my phone on the SSID and it's getting a default deny on any internet traffic. Which would make me think it's some higher precedent rule, but hell if I know which one. Any ideas for how to narrow this down?

[waxen saddle]

Disable rules until traffic starts flowing.

[mystic latch]

I did try that with no luck. It just suddenly started working. I'm flummoxed lol. I initially fat fingered the IP on the interface as 192.158.15.1/28, so perhaps thats why and it took a few to resolve once I fixed that.

[gilded escarp]

find out some new info, smart hub plus does not have a bridging mode

[smoky estuary]

I'll check rn for you, 1 min

[gilded escarp]

no wait, its the max speed with wire guard

what does wire guard do

[smoky estuary]

It's a VPN server and client option, you can use it to remotely connect a device like a laptop to your home network.

Alternatively, you can use it's client option to connect your entire home network to another network

Here's the WiFi performance for you.
My provider gives me 1.2gb down 100mbps up for reference

I am in the same room as the router though

[gilded escarp]

Same here, my ont is the same room too

my router stays on my desk

i live in a bungalow so apart from the two far walls every other wall is thin

[smoky estuary]

I'm with Virgin at the moment so I don't even get fibre unfortunately, only reason we're with them is because they used to have essentially a monopoly on high bandwidth broadband in our area until a few months back

[gilded escarp]

I live in a rural area that has FTTP and I was with BT then moved to ee

[smoky estuary]

I think I remember hearing something about BT phasing out their broadband as they are replacing it with EE broadband

[gilded escarp]

They are

also they cut bunch of jobs here in northern ireland

[smoky estuary]

Funnily enough, I got a PAYG sim from EE a few weeks back to test out their coverage and found it out it's better in buildings and in some other areas, but it struggles with switching between masts, causing dropouts.

[gilded escarp]

Weird, fibrus here keep cutting out and all plus i dont think they have all their services up and running yet cause of the storm

i can get the flint 2 for like 135

[smoky estuary]

Thats roughly the price I paid for mine

[gilded escarp]

i know its cheaper on ali express but eh, im just getting it off amazon

plus far better dealing with them if anything goes wrong or just rma it

[smoky estuary]

I'm in the North East England and we weren't hit too bad, felt like a usually storm, despite the warning being amber instead of the usual yellow

[smoky estuary]

I bought mine on amazon mainly for the returns period but if you buy from their site they might take a while to ship due to Chinese New Year

[gilded escarp]

we got a red weather warning covering the entire island

[smoky estuary]

I remember seeing it, just north of us it was also red

One thing I like about the flint is you can randomise the MAC Address of it's wan ports or set your own, I mainly use this to force my ISP (virgin) to give me a New IP address in the event I leak it (which has only happened twice, both times, virgin refused to do anything about the DoS attacks that followed those)

[gilded escarp]

Yeah, thats cool

tbh ive had bad stories about virgin, sky and talktalk

[smoky estuary]

From my experience, there is no good ISP in the UK, just various tiers of shit

[gilded escarp]

yeah

its varies from user to user

i haven't had problems but the next person could have fuckton of ones

[smoky estuary]

I personally have a couple I stay away from, one of which is Three, who love to hit people with as many hidden fees and shittier performance, all at a "lower" price than the competition.

[gilded escarp]

what are the others

[smoky estuary]

The others used to be EE, TalkTalk & Sky, mainly because of the terrible performance, but they've changed their network in our area to FTTP thanks to OpenReach running new cabling last year so we cannot confirm if it's any better, but I've heard EE is way better than the used to be

[gilded escarp]

yeah

[smoky estuary]

Funny thing is I've considered looking at EE for when our contract ends, just because they offer cheap unlimited sims for broadband customers (limited bandwidth ones start at £10)

[gilded escarp]

flint 2 is like 125

plus it has ports i need and i already ordered a cat 6 wan cable

[smoky estuary]

It's usually £135 according to amazon but they offer infinitely regenerating coupons to bring it down by £10, my best guess is this is to hide the actual pricing from price trackers, so when they do a "sale" it looks legit.

[gilded escarp]

because ee gives you a 5e cable

[smoky estuary]

5e should be plenty for 2.5gbit

[gilded escarp]

yea

i think its just the router

i need to replace

[smoky estuary]

I've been running Cat 5e from my router's 2.5gbit ethernet port to the Virgin box and had no issues, and it's a long ass cable as well (way more than what it needs to be but it's what I had on hand when I put in the router)

[gilded escarp]

mine is very short

i can see my ont lights from my desk

ill think get the flint 2

at 125 plus i think jake liked it

[smoky estuary]

It's a bit dusty but this is what my setup looks like rn

My sky q box is on the other side of the house and Sky are assholes and locked down it's Wi-Fi support to only work with their broadband, so I had to use my old powerline adapter to get ethernet, which makes it look like a mess

[gilded escarp]

its just annoying ee limits their hubs to 1Gbps

for over 1Gbps connection

[smoky estuary]

Wait, what?

[gilded escarp]

yea

The EE Smart Hub Plus is limited to a maximum of 1Gbps on its ethernet ports,

its why im after a new router

[smoky estuary]

You'd still be bottlenecked to 1gbps by that port if you hooked up your new router to a 1gbps port so it wouldn't improve it that much.

[gilded escarp]

the lan ports on the hub are limited

[smoky estuary]

If you only need 2.5gb to a local device on the network, you'd be better off getting a switch instead, alternatively, If the Wi-Fi performance in particular is terrible, I'd recommend getting an Access Point, I got a TP-Link EAP610 a couple years ago (before I got this router) because Virgin's wifi 6 performance was unreliable and it worked wayyy better

[gilded escarp]

how would i set up that up

would it not be easier to get a new router

[smoky estuary]

The access point wasn't too difficult to setup, you plug in the PSU and ethernet cable (running the ethernet cable to where you need it). Once it boots up, you can use the Web UI to set it up and create a network, if you can't find it's IP, you can use the "connected devices" section on your router

Here's a link to the specific Access Point I got:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09ZF7HPFB

[gilded escarp]

would i need that and network switch

so like 119 plus 80

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Router-SafeStream-ER707-M2-M-WAN/dp/B0C3XLCD3X

top lime recommended i get this

sighs

i don't really want to set up an access point and switch and would rather get a new router cause its easier to set up

idk

i feel like im more confused now

[smoky estuary]

You'd just need to find a way to disable DHCP on it to avoid Double NAT problems and it would work, I think GL.Inet has options for that

[gilded escarp]

so just run the GL.inet

[smoky estuary]

You only need a switch to connect 2 devices in your local network to each other at 2.5gbps speeds, but the speed to the broadband box itself would still be limited to 1gbps.
If you only want a wifi boost, you can use both an access point or the GL Inet in access point mode, a dedicated access point will just net you more performance as those are often designed with high reliability components as they are more suited towards businesses.

Found it

Can confirm, the GL-Inet Router can just work as an access point

[gilded escarp]

would i need to run it in tandem with my isp router ?

[smoky estuary]

Yes, your ISP doesn't allow direct use of other routers unfortunately, but having some sort of access point and disabling your ISP router's built-in wifi can net you a performance boost if it's horrifically bad, in your case it might be better to use both together and place the GL-Inet router in another room with poor coverage, this would then mean it would work like a booster, but better because it could be wired via ethernet.

[gilded escarp]

my isp does allow use of third party routers

[smoky estuary]

They technically do allow it, their boxes just don't make it easy because you'd have 2 sets of firewall and shit to deal with

[gilded escarp]

its not a EE ont

its bt one

open reach ont

[smoky estuary]

Not sure then, never used ONT, isn't that the one where you get two boxes, one of them is on the wall and connects to your ISPs routera and it's own power adapter or some shit like that?

[gilded escarp]

mine is one box

[smoky estuary]

gonna look into this real quick

[gilded escarp]

and its on the wall with its own psu

with the fibre connection into it

[smoky estuary]

Just looking into it, a quick look indicates you'd need a router with support for it, I'll see if the flint support it

Looks like it might support fully replacing your ISPs router all-together, bypassing the EE router's 1gbps limit on the ethernet port, you'd just need to do a little bit of manual config.

[gilded escarp]

yeah like what

[smoky estuary]

EE provides guidance on what settings to use here:
https://ee.co.uk/help/broadband/getting-started/using-and-configuring-a-third-party-router

Based on the options in my Flint 2, it supports PPPoE so it should work

"Our Full Fibre products can be used with any PPPoE-capable router that has an ethernet WAN port, and don’t require a modem"

[gilded escarp]

so get the flint 2 and configure it following the guide

i am full fibre

[smoky estuary]

Pretty much, then you could just use it in router mode and get it's full benefits, I'd go with ordering it on Amazon and trying it

[gilded escarp]

fttp

ordered it

125

[smoky estuary]

Next day delivery?

[gilded escarp]

tuesday 4 feb but i have prime anyway

plus for some reason i get sunday deliverys now

[smoky estuary]

I think Amazon always did sunday deliveries

[gilded escarp]

ye

[smoky estuary]

When it arrives on Tuesday, feel free to shoot me a ping if you need a hand (atleast after 5-6pm) and I'll be able to guide you through setting it up if you need any help.

Worst case scenario if it doesn't work is that all you'd have to do is return it to amazon, which you can do at most corner shops so there is basically no risk here.

[gilded escarp]

aye, sure ill let you know.

[topaz patrol]

PPPoE 🤮

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo

i need more fiber

I kinda like these network switches 🥴

[waxen scroll]

I dont. I wish you would use arista

[rocky badge]

No

[clear igloo]

He needs to use whitebox 😛

[waxen scroll]

the mad man would too, and then quit and make his company try to support it

[opal pagoda]

evpn better

[sleek patio]

I love the NetGear AV Line Switched but do you prefer having the status lights at the front or the ports at the front of the rack???

[rocky badge]

It has both

There’s status on the front and at the ports

[sleek patio]

Oh

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[sleek patio]

I must be using an older version or something

Or maybe it has always been like that 🤔

[rocky badge]

Ports have PoE and link/act on the front and back

[low pond]

What do we do when HP's documentation stuff isn't loading?

https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=c04821623&docLocale=en_US

https://i.imgur.com/EQACeGK.png - none of those links seem to be working for me

[topaz patrol]

Working for me

[low pond]

oh great, my side issue then, will see

[topaz patrol]

https://partsurfer.hpe.com/Search.aspx Put the model number in here

[low pond]

loads now, there, thanks

[slim sigil]

well well well

[low pond]

Well indeed

[thick minnow]

Is this normal?
When transferring files TO my server i get ~72MB/s
But when im transferring files FROM my server i get ~112MB/s
GbE btw

[unborn geyser]

From top down:

• UDM Pro
• USW Pro Max 16
• PoE injector
• Patch panel
• reserved
• Cobblestone (main server, Ryzen 9 7950x3D, 128gb RAM)
• Double Chest (storage array, RAIDZ2, 10x4tb)
• Battery backup (not installed, 100ah LiFePo battery & 1.2kw inverter charger)

Doing pretty good as a 19yo I think ;p

Took a while, but my network cabinet is near finished

[thick minnow]

i just bought a static ip for myself im planing to run few things

1. FTP
2. HTTP
3. Minecraft server
4. Some way that i can access my printer without being on LAN

i need some tips / help how do i make everything secure. i was messing around and launched a simple python HTTP server and im getting users from like russia, poland etc etc. i looked the ip up in https://www.iplocation.net/
how do i basically secure my network

[unborn geyser]

Stuff like that is basically unavoidable. Webscrapers & bad actors will always try to check out whatever service you have running. Best you can do is block the region if possible and ignore it if not.

I get them too

i would be using HTTPS for whatever your running in http tho

Close your ssh ports, don’t use FTP, use either SFTP OR FTPS

Password protect the printer

If you’ve gotta have it exposed, have an ACL

[half solstice]

does anyone know how to turn on my pc while away from my home?

[waxen scroll]

Call your neighbor and give them your door code.

[half solstice]

funny

[waxen scroll]

sometimes the least technical solution is the simplest and highly accurate

[clear igloo]

No, what they actually need is a IoT robot 😛

[waxen scroll]

Or just leave the computer on when leaving and set the BIOS to power on when power is applied.

[clear igloo]

no, custom built IoT robot with WiFi and 4g/5g backup connection

[thick minnow]

Ohh

[thick minnow]

Okay it was basically just to test if my static ip is running or not

[thick minnow]

I didn't enable any ports for now I have blocked everything from my router, about FTP my router has it inbuilt, I don't run a separate server for it has like a usb port connected a SSD to it and password protected it.

[thick minnow]

About the printer how do I actually password protect it, I think I'll have to visit it's ip address ?

Like the lan ip it has

• i had my printer like exposed without any security for around 2-3 hrs, it did print some gibrish out of the blue

I think the simplest fix will be password protecting it

[clear igloo]

Or setup a VPN like Wireguard or Tailscale and NOT expose your printer to the web?

[thick minnow]

• should I use different ports i.e. wan port 9483 and it pointing to my printer with port 9100

[thick minnow]

Ye I'll 💀

I was just messing around I closed the port and all

[thick minnow]

Okie one last question do they scan for all of the ports ?, or common ones like 20,21,8080,3306,25565,9100

[peak cloak]

Basically don't expose anything you don't want public

Stuff like printers are a big no no

[thick minnow]

So vpns are the way to go ?

[peak cloak]

Yeah for stuff like that tailscale

[thick minnow]

Nicee so it can run on my router right

[peak cloak]

Depends on router

[thick minnow]

Oh

I'll check the manual

Or propbally get a new one if it doesn't work

My router got these options ig it will work

[thick minnow]

my stupid little server

[opal pagoda]

firewall is basically mandatory, what is your available bandwidth and what is you budget?

[thick minnow]

is the fireway on my could gateway ultra enough for HTTPS and stuff like that?