networking

[thick minnow]

uhm, windows can only use one routing table

[pseudo blade]

???

I fail to understand why you phrased it like that

[thick minnow]

I figured he was using all 3 at once, maybe I misunderstood

[pseudo blade]

You can use three networks with one routing table, but no nobody was talking about that

[naive nest]

These are just two that I haven't turned off yet

I need to install my other access points first

[thorny osprey]

i live in bangladesh thats y

[naive nest]

But they're all on the same channels, so might be causing issues

[thorny osprey]

do u kno how to overclock 1?

[naive nest]

Could build your own router with an old desktop PC

Put in some PCIe NICs

[pseudo blade]

Somewhat, but again: It isn't necessary. Offloads are where improvements are, it makes no sense to overclock this platform and I will not waste my time talking you through it so don't ask me again.

[thorny osprey]

ik its not but i still want to tell my friend i overclocked my roter

if i could oc my fridge i would

[pseudo blade]

Cringe

[thorny osprey]

can i overclock my archer ax23

[pseudo blade]

Probably not

[thorny osprey]

aw

y not

guys how do i overclock a MT7621

how do i see my current core clock

tf driver got him 800 mbps in wireless?

its jst immortalwrt

[wind stream]

should i use RJ45 or SFP

[peak cloak]

depends on usecase

[wind stream]

i can use an RJ to SFP adapter

so ig i will take SFP

[silent flax]

IoT in general, routers are a lot better than IoT, but easier attack surface i guess

personally my recommendation is to delegate Wireless to a separate device, then you can have no issues with networking even with HW Offload enabled, and then WiFi will be solved by a completely separate device, that one can be upgraded/replaced based on requirements. But that's me

[pseudo blade]

"Routers are a lot better than IoT"
lol what

[clear igloo]

in terms of security

[pseudo blade]

It depends on the software they run. Exclusively.

Also: Routers are IoT devices by most definitions

[silent flax]

i talk about the small IoT devices which either don't get any updates ever, or if they do, they are often left abandoned by the manufacturer within a year or two.

Meanwhile many routers get at least minimal updates for 2-3 years in my experience

and then there are crazy outliers like RT-N66U

bought mine in 2012, 12 years later it still is getting some fixes

[topaz patrol]

Then there’s Dlink

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2024/11/20/dlink_rip_replace_router/

[coarse rapids]

New apartment, 8 wall sockets for rj-45, 4 finished cables, 4 cables with no plug. Easiest way to test which wall sockets connect to the finished cables and which one?

[ornate jungle]

https://www.fluke.com/en-us/product/network-cable-testers/copper/ms-poe

[peak cloak]

one of these

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Tone-and-Probe-Tester-and-Wire-Tracer-Set-Ethernet-RJ45-Data-Voice-Video-VDV500-705/311456018

[ornate jungle]

Oh sick - Home Depot Canada has jack all for network cable testers - nice to see they carry Klein Tools and Fluke Networks stuff in the USA.

[coarse rapids]

So plug one end into socket, other into cable on the other end, no result if not connected on both ends?

[peak cloak]

that's one way

the way I like to do it is connect one end to the big tool and put it in tone mode

then use the probe to find the wire that is emitting tones

very useful when trying to find a wire in a bundle

[coarse rapids]

Oh so the probe can detect when holding close?

[peak cloak]

can also be used on any cable that has two wires via the adapter

[ornate jungle]

Same way we do it at work - it's great for when only one end of a network cable has an RJ-45 jack on it too, since you don't need to properly terminate the wire until you know it's the right one.

[peak cloak]

yeah you'll hear it very clearly when touching the probe to the wire

[coarse rapids]

Okay thanks

Will be running my first NAS too

[peak cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A89fygMrAh4

nice

[peak cloak]

yeah I'm sure there's more advanced ones as well with multiple tones for multiple wires

[thorny osprey]

guys uhh where is archer ax23? I selected da target system subtarget right

https://github.com/padavanonly/immortalwrt/tree/mt7915_mtwifi
building dis

[thorny osprey]

wat does dis mean

[thorny osprey]

how do i turn on OFDMA , MU MIMO on my tp link archer ax23 running openwrt? my router does support them but i dont see the options in da wireless page

[topaz patrol]

Those features most likely haven't been implemented yet

[thorny osprey]

bruh

[topaz patrol]

You're the one using stupid third party firmware

[thorny osprey]

tru but i thought something liek openwrt would support it

[topaz patrol]

No lol

[opal pagoda]

you are free to implement it if you want

[thorn delta]

I'm late but they do carry some klein network tools and testers at the Canadian home depot location near me

Nothing super fancy, a few versions of the scout, a couple models of toners, crimp tools, ect

Usually the other low voltage / electrical suppliers around town will carry Fluke stuff

[thorny osprey]

HOW

[opal pagoda]

https://www.wiisfi.com/
read this, learn to code, write code and make a pull request on github

maybe also some official IEEE 802.11 documetation

[thorny osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-emoji-shocked-emoji-gif-8047645301435096829

[thorny osprey]

how much mbps should i be better from my archer ax23 on my laptop? (intel AX200 on laptop)

[thorny osprey]

where the hell do i find the stock firmware image for my archer ax23

mine is a US but tp link only has EU

????

[topaz patrol]

lol

[thorny osprey]

ok genuinly tho

y isnt dis working man

[topaz patrol]

Use the firmware you backed up

[thorny osprey]

the only thing i backed up is dis

(this was the only backup option in stock firmware)

[topaz patrol]

lol

[thorny osprey]

ima try za Version 1

since version 1 and 1.2 is basically za same

[topaz patrol]

What version is yours

[thorny osprey]

1.2

it got bricked

wat is da right firmware mannnnnnnn

https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/download/archer-ax23/v1.20/

this is the link where i downloaded the V1 firmware

the V1.2 on dis site doesnt even exist

theres a bd site (Im from bd) but there isnt a "firmware" section in the support page of it

[topaz patrol]

What version is your hardware

[thorny osprey]

wat

V1.2

@topaz patrol any help plz

[ornate jungle]

TP-Link is stupid. If you browse their site as "Worldwide / English" (instead of a specific country) it will usually display more information about their products, including the firmware files.
https://www.tp-link.com/en/support/download/archer-ax23/#Firmware

[thorny osprey]

this firmware is EU tho

[ornate jungle]

Yup, I realize that. Since they made this confusion, you'll want to contact them to find out what firmware version you need if you're not willing to risk using what might be the wrong firmware.

This is why I cannot recommend TP-Link routers. Netgear, ASUS, or Ubiquiti are love, are life. ❤️

[thorny osprey]

dis gud enough

[thorny osprey]

wouldve been gone for a netgear WAX202 but it wasnt available in my area at dat time

[floral plinth]

all the games crash when I play on 5g wifi but when I play on 2.4 Ghz it's fine. Any Idea how this issue can be fixed?

[thorny osprey]

man

[topaz patrol]

Omada and Aginet are great (for the price) but the rest of their stuff is pretty garbage

Especially when people are getting charged like $179 for those Archer AX1800 units

[floral plinth]

why do Games disconnect my 5 GHZ wifi

[lean palm]

There could be so many things

What games? On what game system? Router model? Troubleshooting you have already tried?

[floral plinth]

All the games.

PC and I tried all the games 2.4 they work

I can surf the web on 5ghz watch videos on it and stuff the moment I launch a game on it

It disconnects

Games will only disconnect my pc’s wifi it will be fine everywhere else

[fluid pumice]

Can you name the games you tried it with?
can you answer his other questions?

[floral plinth]

Black ops6, Fortnite and squad

Troubleshooting method I have tried is just launching the game with 2.4 ghz and i mid game trying to switch the internet connection to 5 ghz but it didn’t connect.

I tried installing drivers for my network card intel axe 200

It came built in my motherboard

@lean palm

[lean palm]

and what router/wifi access point?

[floral plinth]

TG3482ER3 from Roger’s

[topaz patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-roger-roger-roger-that-copy-that-robots-gif-5912820

[floral plinth]

lol

[floral plinth]

@lean palm

[floral plinth]

any Idea whats wrong?

[craggy kernel]

has anybody used snort

help needed

[floral plinth]

@lean palm any update?

[lean palm]

Hey sorry im not on discord that often

Have you tried somthing like a phone hotspot

trying to see if its your wifi card or your router

[floral plinth]

I tried phone hotspot didn't work

[floral plinth]

Where else can we talk about this?

I got a new network card I need to install it

[topaz patrol]

Don’t be surprised if someone doesn’t want to offer any support outside this channel 🙂

[floral plinth]

I understand

[lean palm]

Got it. I would try a different network card

especially since you have another one

[floral plinth]

The question is why does 2.4 ghz works fine

I can also download from 5ghz

The card I have install in built in wifi module of the motherboard

[thorny osprey]

is dis gud wireless speed?

[thick minnow]

very gud

[thorny osprey]

ty

should I have QoS on or off?

[thorny osprey]

turning MU MIMO off and on in immortalwrt does nothing wtf

[lean palm]

well nothing that benifits single device speed

it helps when multiple devices are connected

my wifi go brr lol

not the fastest but good enough for the bedroom

[hollow axle]

Is that too the Internet? Local?

[topaz patrol]

It’s local

[lilac ether]

So, my plan:

1. Get 100G ConnectX-4 (MCX416A-CCAT) and MikroTik CRS354-48P-4S+2Q+RM
2. Run fiber downstairs to rack
3. Profit?

[opal pagoda]

usecase?

[lilac ether]

My bro an I are often playing games the other doesn't yet own and we wanna join quicker 😛

Mostly just for shits and gigs cause I've not deployed 40/100g before and I need a new 48p switch anyway

[past moss]

anyone experienced with MOCA?

[topaz patrol]

https://dontasktoask.com

[autumn dome]

Can anyone recommend a windows VPS, i cannot find any reputable information online

[ornate jungle]

https://www.vultr.com/servers/windows/

[pine onyx]

someone tell me if im dumb or lost, but i do a speedtest and get 290 mb download and 40 mb upload, i try to download an update on steam and i am barely getting 1 mb, i am lost

[random siren]

try clearing steamcache and/or changing download region

[pine onyx]

i already did, changed nothing

[unborn sluice]

What percent is it

[unborn sluice]

Did you check for process.
Steam appears to slow down download when writing to disk

[pine onyx]

its only using 35% of disk

[unborn sluice]

In task manager?

[pine onyx]

yes

[opal pagoda]

what is your cpu usage?

steam downloads and unpacks at the same time
if game update is highly compressed it will affect download speed

[pine onyx]

20-25%

ok, no clue now, its just jumping from 20 to 5, back to 20, will idle at like 25 for a little, then start playing leap frog again

[ornate jungle]

Post a screenshot of the steam download graph after it's been updating a game for a few minutes.

[pine onyx]

i am somehow now getting 50 MB download, i am no longer complaining, no clue what i did

[mild notch]

to fully support our 4 Gbps internet connection. Right now, we are using Deco X60 in access point mode, but I’m considering a more efficient, wired LAN setup with a multi-gigabit switch to maximize the bandwidth.

[pseudo blade]

Guess you'd better decide how much money to burn for how little gain, or if you're content with a significant portion of the throughput being wired-only and not available to any individual wireless network.

The X60 is... to my understanding... a decidedly mediocre product.

No dedicated wireless backhaul and gigabit-only ethernet interfaces

[topaz patrol]

Oh yeah

Those Decos are pretty craptastic

Also fuck not having a Web UI

[pseudo blade]

Some are better than others but no backhaul is an unacceptable (and overly common) cost optimisation for me

[mild notch]

That’s a fair point, and I’m trying to weigh the costs against the benefits. For context, the Deco units we’re using now were from before we upgraded to 4 Gbps—they worked fine when we had a lower-speed connection. My main priority now is to maximize wired throughput for specific devices while ensuring stable wireless performance for the rest. If you have any suggestions for optimizing this setup without overspending, I’d really appreciate your input!

[pseudo blade]

Have to know what you're willing to spend and if any existing equipment is reusable

Plus of course priorities

Like is there only one computer that really needs 4 gigabit, one room, several rooms...

[mild notch]

Like 2 rooms max that need the 4 gigabit

[pseudo blade]

I guess I should ask if your router is 4 gigabit capable

And if it has multiple usable interfaces

[mild notch]

yes but only one port so that’s why I need a switch

[pseudo blade]

How many fast ports are desired?

And is it SFP or 10gbase-t

[mild notch]

Only one 4 lemme check and 2 2.5 I think

[pseudo blade]

Yeah alright

10 gigabit twisted pair switches tend to cost more than 10 gigabit SFP switches, but it's doable

[mild notch]

XGS-PON it uses

[pseudo blade]

Yep but I assume that WAN port can't be configured for LAN use

If it can that is probably helpful

[mild notch]

No in Netherlands we use the wan for the incoming internet

[pseudo blade]

I assume the WAN port connects to your NTD

(Fiber box)

[mild notch]

to our XGS-PON

[pseudo blade]

Yes

[mild notch]

If it’s easier I can get a router too doesn’t matter

[pseudo blade]

It'd cost you extra

Anyways how many devices do you really want 4 gigabit speeds for, remember they need to actually have interfaces capable of it or it's moot

[mild notch]

I think really just one 4 gigabit because my sister doesn’t really need it

I only need it because I download big files

[pseudo blade]

Then just use the 10 gig port for yourself and buy a 2.5 gigabit or gigabit switch for the others (perhaps just that existing gigabit one you mentioned before unless they've been buying 2.5 gigabit ethernet devices?)

Saves you a ton of money

5 gigabit switches are basically unicorns so you'd probably end up buying 10 gigabit switches which cost a fortune in base-t

And if your family decides they want faster than 2.5 gigabit later so be it, then you can blow money on a 10 gigabit switch and the market's had more time to mature on consumer offerings

5/8 port 2.5 gigabit switches have gotten pretty affordable recently

I'm seeing generic 4/5/8 port 2.5 gigabit switches on Amazon for $50USD up

But faster is comfortably 10x the price

[mild notch]

Oké can you give me a good 2.5 switch for my family then?

[opal pagoda]

what is your budget?

[mild notch]

For the switch idk max 80 euro is that good?

[opal pagoda]

these are cheap and good for a unmanaged switch

you will need one of these to connect to your router

[mild notch]

Oké thanks

Is internet to sfp better?

[opal pagoda]

it would be best if your router had sfp+ port on it but this module wont sacrafice any speed. Only downside is price and power consumption

be careful to order a 10g capable module as 2.5g and 1g modules look the same

[mild notch]

Ooh you want me to put it in the 10 gb lan

Uhm thing is I need 4 gigabit on my pc so I need that one

[pseudo blade]

You have a 2.5 gigabit port on your router, the SFP port would allow the 2.5 gigabit ports to share the 4 gigabit bandwidth upstream rather than just 2.5

There's a second SFP port and that one would feed your computer in that scenario

The question would be "Is that a benefit worth purchasing this equipment"

[mild notch]

Ooh yes it is

Thanks

I need to download high size files for my server so I need that speed ty

[pseudo blade]

Scenario 1:
10 gigabit port > you
2.5 gigabit port > Switch (other people)

Scenario 2:
10 gigabit port > SFP+ switch serving all users (second 10 gigabit port to you, other 2.5 gigabit ports to others)

[mild notch]

2 best right ?

[pseudo blade]

The only time the scenarios differ is if several people on the 2.5 gigabit ports are collectively using more than 2.5 gigabits of bandwidth at any given time

The first scenario is cheaper and does not require the SFP+ modules, which tend to run hot and are not especially reliable when improperly cooled

The second scenario gives the 2.5 gigabit users a slightly larger bandwidth pool

[mild notch]

Oké uhm I need to find a cooling solution then Ty

[pseudo blade]

I guess

[pseudo blade]

If they only have gigabit network cards/computers they will not benefit

[mild notch]

No my sister has a 2.5 gigabit
And I am planning to buy a decent pc for my mom to do her financial stuff etc

[pseudo blade]

Anyone else likely to benefit or compete for bandwidth?

[mild notch]

No only me and my sister

[pseudo blade]

Financial stuff generally won't care about multigig :P

[mild notch]

Nope

[pseudo blade]

So it'd likely be more reliable to just use the 2.5 gig port for an uplink and don't bother with SFP+ in this case

If I were able to get those speeds I'd be sorely tempted to buy one of these but they do cost notably more at about $200USD https://mikrotik.com/product/crs304_4xg_in

But utterly wasted on anyone who's not doing very bandwidth intensive tasks

[mild notch]

Uhm I am from Netherlands

[pseudo blade]

I'm sure you're capable of converting currencies yourself if you're really curious

I'm not recommending this product to you

[silent flax]

some factory got a discount price on random color RJ45 plugs 😄

[pseudo blade]

It's a bit of a box of parts isn't it

Three speeds of data ports

It does make sense to colour code them in that case

And 10 gig ports are pricy

[mild notch]

It’s just from my internet provider

[pseudo blade]

We know

[silent flax]

10G WAN is orange
10G LAN is blue
2.5G LAN and RJ11 is green
1G LAN is yellow

while color coding is nice, probably not required at this level

[pseudo blade]

It's the kind of product you see when you cost-optimise >2.5 gigabit internet connection routers

[silent flax]

also they wasted precious electronics on WPS button 😄

[mild notch]

It’s really cheap here 4 gigabit

Only 30 euro per month 40 with tv

[pseudo blade]

Ugh please no don't tell me what internet should cost

Take pity on this poor Australian

[mild notch]

Sorry

[pseudo blade]

I jest, don't worry

[mild notch]

8 gigabit is 80 that’s big

[silent flax]

i pay 38 euros for 1000/50 docsis with tv here, i could have 1000/300 (or 500? not sure, haven't checked for some time), but meh, moving between ISPs is so annoying

[mild notch]

I do it every 2 years

Saves a lot of money

[opal pagoda]

we pay 30
doesent matter if its 10mbps vdsl or 4gbps fiber

[mild notch]

That’s crazy

[pseudo blade]

I'm paying $94 a month for 50mbps down, 20 up

[mild notch]

Wtf

Can’t get starlink at that point?

[pseudo blade]

56 euros

[silent flax]

not here, i can sign up with same contract as new users. But i use their internet TV solution and share it with my mom, so it would be annoying to set up all the apps again

[pseudo blade]

Faster plans cost a lot more but they won't sell me them so it's kinda moot

Faster than gigabit is not available at retail regardless of network location

[mild notch]

I had one place really bad connection at that point we wanted to get starlink

[pseudo blade]

Apparently we might see multi gigabit soon. I fear to learn what it'll cost

[mild notch]

But we moved so now we have 4 gigabit

[silent flax]

i only get 2 wired internet options here, but i suspect way too many people in US would be happy to even have an option of having an option

[pseudo blade]

That's on GPON/XGPON for the people who can get gigabit

So no technical reason, just greed

[mild notch]

No I actually need it and got it for cheap

[silent flax]

so yeah, 1000/500 with fixed IPv4 would set me back 40 euros monthly. Without fixed IPv4 it would be 32 euros.

[pseudo blade]

+5 for a static IP

[opal pagoda]

hopefully i will get fiber in 2 years (fiber expansion project)

[pseudo blade]

They're trenching in fiber in the park over the road in an active project, but go-live is September 2025

But yeah the prices for data aren't changing so you only get to benefit from it if you pay more

Cost comes from daring to want upload speeds because Australia is backwards

[opal pagoda]

you dont want to know pricing of DIA

[clear igloo]

AT&T: 5gig symmetrical - $250/month (residential)
GFiber: 20gig symmetrical - $250/month (residential)

[opal pagoda]

20 gig?
are they using sfp28?

[pseudo blade]

Look the point here is that it's stupidly expensive and shouldn't be, not a competition on which service is most stupidly priced

[clear igloo]

Yup, some new Nokia GPON 25g sfp

[pseudo blade]

Like sure I'd pay $250 a month if I wanted 20 gigabit because that's insanely stupid

Run a datacenter in my house I guess

[clear igloo]

Exactly, I don't even know what I'd do with 20gig, lol

Steam caps out at about 2.5G for me because of the CPU not speed limits

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I'd need an RoI of some sort to consider a service like that

[opal pagoda]

neet
utilisation on that is probably so low lmao
just like utilisation of most of my access layer switches to ag

[clear igloo]

Yah, I'm waiting for it to roll out more, I'm just curious to see it in production mostly

[pseudo blade]

I wouldn't get it from web browsing or my dayjob, which does use a lot of bandwidth but we're talking like 400GB/month, nothing that'd benefit from that

[clear igloo]

Right now it's "beta" in GFiber Labs but still

Supposed to roll out next year so

[pseudo blade]

My work-paid home internet budget is $250/mo USD

[clear igloo]

Damn, that's nice

[pseudo blade]

It is

[clear igloo]

I used to get $100/month for internet because I'm in a critical group
Then execs said "nah, everyone gets $35/month instead, no special treatment"

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I'm not entirely sure why it's so high

[clear igloo]

Still better than nothing though

[pseudo blade]

I'm not complaining though

[opal pagoda]

🇦🇺

[clear igloo]

Shouldn't that be upside down? 😛

[pseudo blade]

I'm paying stupid money but they're not yet at the point of trying to charge $400/month AUD for VDSL services and that's all they'll sell me right now
Don't give them any ideas

[clear igloo]

$400/month WITH 500GB data cap 😄

[pseudo blade]

Look that's pretty much the only dumb idea in networking that hasn't stuck around here

Data caps for residential internet services are not common

[opal pagoda]

cgnat with no ipv6 address too

[pseudo blade]

Honestly I'd just find a datacenter they peer with and tunnel my own in if I had that sort of desire to spend and the offerings were that petty

I ran mobile broadband for home use for a while because NBN was so price uncompetitive

[opal pagoda]

i refuse to only use that
even though on average it has higher bandwidth it also has high variablity especialy in the evening

[pseudo blade]

Until I lived in this house and worked this job I consistently got very lucky with mobile speeds

I basically had a tower to myself in one place because I was next to an industrial area with one and they cleared off in the afternoons and weren't big users ever

400mbps down 40 up in 2018 and it basically stayed put

This house is barely phone call territory though despite being only a few km away

The problem is this job just uses too much data to make that possible anymore even if I rigged up a yagi pointing in

[opal pagoda]

well i have LOS to two towers

[pseudo blade]

Telstra also flat out killed their biggest data plan, you can't buy 400GB data SIM plans now

Only 80GB for slightly less money or a fixed-address limited availability 5G plan

[opal pagoda]

even though population density isnt that large here it is still very noticable due to isp-s pushing 4g home routers with bandwidth caps

[opal pagoda]

i have gifted a mimo yagi to my friend that lives in the valley with no los to tower
his speed has incresed by 3-5x which isnt half bad

[pseudo blade]

Yeah they're a really great option if you can't get anything else

[pseudo blade]

When I did agricultural networking stuff we'd go 5-10km away to the property line closest to the tower, pair of yagis and relay that back over WiFi

Nothing to 50-100mbps was pretty sick and we weren't using very impressive modems

[opal pagoda]

i have sniped them for 10% of msrp from marketplace, they were in original packaging too

[pseudo blade]

Oh nice

Most people don't know what to do with them I guess

Or they plug them into a modem with rubbish OEM pigtails and don't aim them right and wonder why performance sucks

[opal pagoda]

yea performace would be so much higher if outdoor modem was used with 0.5 - 1m cables . stock they had come with 10 meter cable on them

[pseudo blade]

10 meters of the thinnest and cheapest coax they could find :P

[opal pagoda]

not bottom of the barrel stuff but not premium thick stuff either

[thorn delta]

I have to imagine the jump between XGS-PON and 25G PON will result in basically 0 increased actual usage and all that effort of putting in 25G PON linecards will purely be so the ISP can claim they're over twice as fast as the competition. It's exhausting

[pseudo blade]

Well the reason you'd bother is for congestion management

But unless everyone jumps to >100mbps streaming options it's probably not an immediate crisis for an ISP because congestion is not likely

[thorn delta]

When I saw 25G PON as a standard I was kinda wondering if it would be used more to feed 5G small cells without driving up the amount of strands they're using

[pseudo blade]

Well the max split per fiber for both is apparently 128 subscribers

[thorn delta]

Yeah, I'd mean compared to running an individual BiDi strand to each small cell pole/site

[pseudo blade]

Oh

I get you

...At the point where you're running fiber for that purpose would it really make sense?

[opal pagoda]

dont you have to connect them to baseband controller with fiber anyway?

[pseudo blade]

Well you would be

I think the real scenario for near-term use of it would be for feeding corporate towers and stuff

[thorn delta]

The only OSP fibre I deal with are greenfield and rural, but I could imagine wanting to make efficient use of strands if running new cables is difficult, or you already have PON deployed and you want to tap into it without a lot of extra headaches. MDUs and so on would be nifty too

[pseudo blade]

Where the number of people is large but maybe not so much money on the line per tenant that they'd bother getting their own fiber in if they had other options

Or uh they're too cheap to do it and they should be paying for a dedicated line anyways but don't

What is a thousand people not being able to work if it costs us several thousand dollars a month!? :P

I had a customer at work with 4k people hanging off a single gigabit interface for an office in a cheaper country, ~10kUSD/year per employee

Stupid, stupid, they're still not that cheap, a day's outage is a minimum of $110k of wages

[opal pagoda]

i belive they deploy ftth here like this
dedicated fiber from house to outdoor isp rack with mostly passive stuff in it , then fiber from isp rack to their central (which is where i belive olt is)

because i have seen that i can rent a fiber strand from house to that outdoor isp box (price is 9e per month)

[thorn delta]

Yeah, most PON deployments are like that around here. We have strands from our customers to the nearest passive cabinet, patch them into a splitter, which then goes back to the headend site with the OLT/switch/router/transport/ect

[pseudo blade]

Yeah and that's why you would never design a PON network to actually use the max number of connections per strand by default (or anywhere close)

[opal pagoda]

yup
fiber strands are cheap af
install is expensive

[topaz patrol]

I’m still on a grandfathered unlimited plan :P

[thick minnow]

Current state of my home network

[silent flax]

you really need one of these

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge

[silent flax]

@clear igloo to be fair, i did something similar for my KVMs - but even then i simply printed out a text document and cut the paper 😄

[clear igloo]

Nice! Yup cheap and simple 🙂

[opal pagoda]

better than using one of these
who tf designed them to use alphabet keyboard layout

[silent flax]

it's the same thing, except one works through the phone and other with builtin keyboard (not commenting on layout)

[thick minnow]

They’re kinda expensive for what they are imo

[silent flax]

i mean the box i shown picture above

the bluetooth one is ~50 euros

[thick minnow]

Yeah exactly

[opal pagoda]

it is the same printer inside
user interface on the other hand....

[silent flax]

PT-P300BT

[thick minnow]

Also it takes 6 AAA batteries and doesn’t come with a power supply

No thanks

[opal pagoda]

ah yes you had reminded me to change batteries on mine

[thick minnow]

Pen and tape works fine for me

[silent flax]

you can get a power supply for like 12 euros on top of it

12.9 euros was the adapter

[thick minnow]

Too much for how much im gonna actually use it

[silent flax]

you will label cables, wall sockets, stuff over time

but ok, still, the "print from word on paper" looks professional enough

[opal pagoda]

becouse making it rechargable is too expenisve

[silent flax]

get rechargeable AA bateries then ? 😄

[opal pagoda]

those are 1.2v compared to 1.5

[small glade]

Testing some networking hardware for a small lan party coming soon has made me create the most cursed thing known to man: the double-nested nat

Basically will be doing just a regular nested NAT setup for the lan party (at the place where it will be held, there is a local network that i don't want to deal with as it will be my first time touching it on the day of the party, don't want issues but at the same time for convenience i want the lan party machines to have some access to the internet so nested NAT was the best solution IMO) but the double nested nat is just so i can test with various configurations of the "upstream" network without screwing with my home network. The LAN party router will be assigning addresses in the 192.168.69.0/24 range which shouldn't overlap with any common networking hardware's ip range

[unkempt stag]

Hey yall. Im in the market for a surveillance nvr system for the outside of my parents house. Still doing research into what's out there but I'm debating whether to piecemeal a setup or buy something entirely out of box. 10-12 cameras

[lean palm]

Look in to unifi protect

[opal pagoda]

unify stuff is vendor locked

[lean palm]

its dead simple and decently powerful

[lean palm]

nope its not

you can add 3rd party cameras to unifi nvrs

and you can stream unifi cameras outside to another nvr

its no more vendor locked than an all in one 8 camera package from amazon

[opal pagoda]

ah it was added to early access 4 months ago

[unkempt stag]

Ooooh ok

[lean palm]

now public release too iirc

I recently switched to BlueIris and Axis cameras

[opal pagoda]

i just use dahuas

[lean palm]

yikes

gotta love the CCP then lol

hikvision and dahua are notorious for having terrible data security processes and being linked to the chinese government

[opal pagoda]

they are on isolated vlan without internet access anyway

[unkempt stag]

Which brand of nvr do you have them hooked up to?

[opal pagoda]

and from fw logs they dont even try accessing the internet

[lean palm]

Its running on a dedicated computer (blueiris is the software)

[unkempt stag]

Ohh

[lean palm]

with a 8 core processor and 1650 gpu

[unkempt stag]

Gotcha. That's an option too. I have old hardware lying around that I can probably repurpose to become a dedicated machine for this

[lean palm]

gotcha, still have issues with the human rights/labor practices.

[opal pagoda]

everything that you cannot visit production facility suffers from that

[unkempt stag]

I could also get away with unifi nvr + a bunch of cheap amazon poe cameras

[lean palm]

the one thing to remember is x86 hardware uses significantly more power than a dedicated arm chip found in dedicated NVRs

[lean palm]

look at used AXIS cameras on eBay tbh

you can get really good cameras for cheap

AXIS is used in many high security enviroments such as government offices and airports

and you can get 1080p cameras from them used for about $40 a pop

[unkempt stag]

What's the concern?

[lean palm]

I know some places electricity is super expensive

[unkempt stag]

Ip rated? Honestly thats pretty good

[lean palm]

yup

outdoor

[opal pagoda]

super cool security system that i saw in datacenter is radar

[lean palm]

https://www.axis.com/products/axis-m3027-pve/support#technical-specifications

this camera from axis can be found for around $80 used, has built in night vision, and is ip66 rated

also its a 360 panoramic-super cool

[unkempt stag]

Ohhh. I don't think it'll be that much of a concern but I should do the math on how much itll affect my bill. It should just be the same cost as having another machine plugged in all day

[lean palm]

if you were going for all axis cameras, id ditch the unifi nvr and build your own

yup

then id check out blue iris

[lean palm]

screenshot of the camera in my office

ignore the watermark- building a new camera server right now so I'm moving the license around

[unkempt stag]

Oh huhh

[silent flax]

just to be sure, check legal framework of your state/country first. It might not be legal, or might require bunch of legal stuff to set up a surveilance system. For example in my country, if i record anything outside of my house and i create a recording, i need to register the surveilance system and have a data project etc

[opal pagoda]

gdpr stuff

[unkempt stag]

Fair point. Ill do so!

I dont think its an issue but point take

[lean palm]

yikes

whats on my property I own is mine to record when I want imo

[silent flax]

The issue is when your camera records anything outside your property. The road in front of your house is not your property. Neither is neighbors property across the street when you record entrance to your garage.

That is when you get into the legally grey (US) or complicated (EU) situation

[ornate jungle]

Glad it's legal to record public property where I live - makes installing a camera system relatively easy.

[cunning lion]

Here's the highest i have ever personally seen on any of my personal devices

This is on cellular at that

[keen urchin]

It is a public area though

[topaz patrol]

At work we were just advised to put up signs in the public areas that are covered by cameras

[keen urchin]

In Victoria you can't record anything "private". Other than that, if it's publicly visible, you're good

[topaz patrol]

It looks like this wouldn't apply in a residential setting though according to the OAIC

[silent flax]

which in the end is why i said "check your local regulations". Because there is a huge difference between live view and recording, and between various countries/states. In my country for example i can have a live camera view with no problem without any additional paperwork, once recording of public space comes into play, even for personal protection (like recording of my parking spot), then boom, i need to do all the necessary legal stuff.

For example if i am recording any area outside of the interior or space outside of my fence (like the mentioned parking spot, flower garden in front of the fence), then in my country we need to do all stuff required by data protection law, which is:

• camera sign at monitored space, with information about me if someone wants to contact me
• max 14 days storage
• not allowed to provide recordings to anyone else with exception of police & relevant organizations
• you can only record the relevant area and not everything you can record; ie you should record only your parking spot at most with nearby spots; you can't record the whole street
• secure your recordings
• you need to create a security project if one can view the recordings over internet

So yeah, it is more hassle than it is worth due data protection 😄

or just yolo it and be ready to be hit with 3-60k euro fine

[rocky badge]

Rip

[mystic latch]

Damn, that's really old android. Like before 10?

[silent flax]

more like kitkat (4.x) ?

or even 3.0

4.x had those contorls

[cinder sapphire]

is there a way I can use a VPN while caddy is active? mine seems to use port 443, preventing caddy from starting properly

[pseudo blade]

Looks like kitkat/4 to me based on design language

It's the old "Holo" UI

[radiant shell]

so i might have gone a bit over the top in my home lab in terms of compute and networking after some recent purchases.........who i am kidding there is no such things as over the top......... Only 1x 5900x 1x i9-11900 and 3x i9-13900H's..........

all on MCLAG 10GB Links

[opal pagoda]

Sell excess capacity to cover the power bill

[radiant shell]

thats a lot of effort.... they will be sitting pretty much idle so yes, i am expecting power usage but im in the middle redoing my entire homelab so at the moment i have everything but in a couple months time the i9-11900 pc will be deprecated and the 5900x may be aswell depending on how the i9-13900H's go

[clear igloo]

25GbE? 😛

[radiant shell]

i did think about it but the NICs just arent at a great price point here in aus + switching etc

[clear igloo]

Ah, down under prices are a tad high for sure

[radiant shell]

eBay market just isnt the same here unfortunately

[clear igloo]

yah, that's a shame 😦

[thorny osprey]

is Tenda RX9 Pro good?

[blissful gulch]

hey guys im trying to connect a voip mobile to a cordless handset and recieve calls on both, i can make phone calls on the voip phone and the handest but can recieve calls, it is such a nieche thing to try setting up idk if anyone can help

[pseudo blade]

Well the brand isn't on the list of ones I'd rush out to buy and the first thing I find when I look it up on their website is that it's EOL (Which is appalling on a WiFi 6 device)
CPU is 1.6Ghz Dual-Core (Can't see what type but probably ARM Cortex-A53) it'll outdo what you had (MT7621 880mhz -MIPS 1004KC) by a bit over double.

So uh... I wouldn't buy a router that's already out of support after maybe 2 years at best and I'd reconsider any purchase from that vendor with that knowledge alone

[thorny osprey]

im not buying it but my friend is

[pseudo blade]

Facts are the same

[thorny osprey]

soooo should he buy it

because other wifi 6 routers r very expensive

dang tho da cpu is fast

[pseudo blade]

I already answered that and my answer was no

[thorny osprey]

oh

didnt see da wouldn't sorry xd

[silent flax]

not sure that would count as overkill. My non-desktop stuff is:
2950x
3900x
2 systems E5-2699v3
three Sandy Bridge systems
😄

[dense osprey]

Hi there, are the phones using different extensions? Are they in the same huntgroup.

[mossy stump]

Updated my router turned my old I to an aimesh for down stairs. New is a RT-BE88U and I gotta say... it's the king of ports for the price.

[amber urchin]

25gig is fun. If only I had a better drive setup. I only get around 4 unless it's in the cache, then I can pull around 16-18. Server specs are X99 Taichi, Xeon E5-2697A V4 16c, 256GB (8x32gb) 2133 ECC. Just four 7200rpm 4TB drives. I have two more, but then I'd have no spares and that doesn't work for me.

[pseudo blade]

Pricy, but a refreshing lack of compromising on the wired ports that goes a long way towarsd justifying that price tag. Shame about the lack of 6ghz though.

[opal pagoda]

are you running rdma?

if no maybe look into it

[pseudo blade]

I doubt it makes a huge difference when running four 7200RPM spinning disks :P

[mossy stump]

Honestly my only devices that have the option to use 6ghz are my zfold 6, and future new motherboard but I'll be running wired 2.5 gig for that.

[opal pagoda]

tru tru
didnt see that

[small glade]

Lan party actually happened this was fun for sure

[opal pagoda]

i had upgraded my pc and ofc old hardware goes to server duties.
i have bought this extremely cheap case (24 euro) quality is honestly speaking great but it lacks in the "space for discs" department
what i have thought about doing is making a 3d printed "extension" that has all the 2.5 and 3.5 caddies that i need, they would be accessible from the side.
is this a good idea or a bad one?
ideavisualiser500 (paint)

[opal pagoda]

nice, few years back we had lan party with friends but we all had desktops
transport was a challenge but it was fun

[topaz patrol]

You could say the same of everything

The NSA installs backdoors in Cisco gear! Don’t buy it!

[lean palm]

id much rather that my data if it has to go anywhere go to my government, not one that I dont like

of course I'd like it to go no where

[mossy stump]

Governments don't need back doors if that is where you reside. They can come in and simply take whatever they want and figure out charges later as long as they have a suspicion. Some places even less. But avoiding China manufactured if reasonable is a good idea.

[amber urchin]

Just a basic samba share. TrueNAS ZFS pool consisting of two raid 1 VDEVs.

[thorny osprey]

how is my bro getting dis much on a inferior router on wifi 5

where as im in a superior router with wifi 6 is not even getting over 500 mbps download

i have the higher internet package aswell

aint no way the more pricer router is slower than the cheaper router

my bro got da ax15 and i have da ax23

[radiant shell]

there is many variables that affect wifi speeds not just wifi 6 is always better than wifi 5, for example the channel width 40mhz vs 80 mhz, Channel selection/channel utilization, the client device capabilities + many more variables

[radiant shell]

this sounds like the AP is only set to 40mhz channel width as that the speed i would expect to see

[radiant shell]

i can also see in the images that its connected via wifi 6 not 5

[opal pagoda]

both sides matter, what are the specs of the endpoint?

[young slate]

So my isp internet plan Is 500 mbps with 5 ping wouldn’t lowering the internet plan to 250 mbps make the modem have to deal with lower speeds and that would result in lower ping?

[opal pagoda]

nah
at idile it doesent matter at all, at high load bufferbloat has most impact
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat

[upper geyser]

can someone help me with my internet I just bought a wifi extender for my pc now its working slow and stuff

I just ran that new test at the top right now

[opal pagoda]

Extenders are trash, maybe you could run Ethernet cable to your extender and put it in ap mode

[thorny osprey]

The client device? mine is intel ax200 but idk his

[thorny osprey]

Using 80mhz doe
Also channel set to auto
My device has a intel ax200 ion tjink das bad but idk

Also i found out dat his router has a 1.5ghz 3 core cpu

Mine has a 880mhz 2 core cpu

Y da hell is mine more expensivd

[lean nebula]

any extender between you and your router roughly halves the bandwidth you get from the net AFAIK, it's probably not as bad with multiband, but it will be slower assuming the speed didn't already fall due to signal strength

also, I wish I could have faster than 100/10 wired; the only faster way in this building would be 5G and that would cost double or triple what I'm paying now

[young slate]

So is it better at high loads?

[timber bay]

any recommendations for cheap 10gig cards ?

[opal pagoda]

sfp+ or rj45?

[timber bay]

I honestly have no clue lol, havent really touched networking.

The idea is to have a 1gig connection between the PC -> Router and Server -> Router, but a 10 gig between PC -> Server

The server is running TrueNAS if that matters

PC Windows 11 and soon macOS (hackintosh)

but im not aware of any cards that would support macOS

I got recommended these but seems a bit too cheap for 10 gig

Tho the reviews are fine and seem legit

[opal pagoda]

get one of this
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006833959295.html
two of these
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387322595907
and two of these
https://www.ebay.com/itm/396009113923

[timber bay]

@topaz basin

[opal pagoda]

they are fine but connectx 2 cards are really old and as such they consume lots of power and only have pcie 2.0

[topaz basin]

connectx-3 is better if you can find them for a good price yes

[timber bay]

and i assume id just have to plug the switch into my router

[opal pagoda]

yup, it is much easier setup with a switch

[timber bay]

so that would be the 1g

[timber bay]

more expensive though 😅

[opal pagoda]

if you just want speed then get two of these https://www.ebay.com/itm/404502812001 and a qsfp cable

[timber bay]

To be fair, why do i even want 10 gig, future proofing is nice, sure, but i only have 2 HDDs in raid 1, even 1gig is enough for those lol

[topaz basin]

Trust me, in the future you will be wanting 10 gig

[opal pagoda]

and will be wanting a switch

[topaz basin]

Especially since the cost isn’t much more than 2.5

[opal pagoda]

do you have a motherboard with 2.5g ethernet?

[timber bay]

am i blind or arent the sfp+ ports 2.5g ?

[topaz basin]

If you’re not transferring files much then 1 gig is probably fine but there will be random times where you’d wish you had 10 gig

[timber bay]

no, everything built in is 1gig

i dont have anything thats faster than that atm

[opal pagoda]

no sfp is 1.25g, sfp+ is 10g, qsfp is just 4x sfp+ so 40g, sfp28 is 25g and qsfp28 is 100g

[timber bay]

god

[topaz basin]

I’m eventually going to get there in my setup lol

Looking at a brocade icx7250

Power draw isn’t really a concern for me

[timber bay]

I do want an insane home server, but thats like at the bottom of my life priority list atm

currently have an e5-2690v2 with some aliexpress board

[opal pagoda]

then get just a 2x connectx 3 cards and a single sfp+ cable, when you can then get a switch and another sfp+ cable

[topaz basin]

I just upgraded from a 2x E5405 server to a Gold 6150

[timber bay]

Good for a start, but nothing good in general

[thorny osprey]

Wait

Hol on

Y does my router get 450 mbps wireless CLOSEST range but in ethernet i get 920 mbps on my tp link ax23
But my frend gets 600 plus wireless but idk abt his ethernet on his ax15
My side of device (client device) is very good too
Is it because his router has better cpu? If it was then wouldnt it affect my wireless performance too?

80mhz channel witdh

5ghz band

[opal pagoda]

check if endpoint is using mimo and what mimo it is using

[cinder plank]

I got myself a ICX7150-C12P but I am having issues with just the management port connected, I updated the firmware and factory reset the config. I'm running the router mode.
This issue is that the switch responds to the arp who is 192.168.1.1 request before the real network router/gateway does which causes devices on the the network to fail to communicate to the real gateway at 192.168.1.1. The dynamically assigned management ip is 192.168.1.226.
What am I missing, how do I prevent it from responding to who is 192.168.1.1?

[latent jolt]

Can some one help me with my packet loss issue im running 35 ping average but also have extremely high packet loss and i cant diagnose the issue

[topaz patrol]

Are you using WiFi?

[latent jolt]

im using Ethernet

hop 1 is 50% pl and my hop 14 is 90% pl

i dont really understand what these mean sadly

[low pond]

Hop to where

[gray elbow]

from your phone?

[latent jolt]

my pc

[latent jolt]

idk

[gray elbow]

does the ethernet come from your phone or router

[latent jolt]

router

[gray elbow]

oh

[topaz patrol]

Send a screenshot

[silent flax]

me when i maxed out my stupid aliexpress game coupon skills 😄

[silent flax]

isn't the usual job to either connect it directly via cable just to one PC and reconfigure the management port to another network first ? That is what i do with normal routers when they overlap with the upstream router IP range. Or have it on separate cable & network if management port is dedicated

[amber urchin]

Nice. My ConnectX-3 ran me $22 with a pair of transceivers. My pair of ConnectX-4s ran me $26 each. The SFP+ DAC was $19 but the SFP28 DAC was $48; both 3M.

[silent flax]

ironically they also sent me a 3m cable instead of the 1m one, but i am not going to complain

[amber urchin]

I'd like to get a switch with at least four 25gig ports and like six standard 1gig copper ports, but they're not exactly common.

[latent jolt]

and this is sadly the best ive seen the chart usually everything is red

[amber urchin]

Found a neat Cisco unit but it's not exactly a desk switch so I'd need to put it somewhere the sound wouldn't be a problem.

[cinder plank]

The management ip is fine (192.168.1.226). The issue is that it is responding with its mac to who is 192.168.1.1 and I don't understand why, or how to change it. 192.168.1.1 isn't it's ip, it is like an arp proxy issue, but arp-proxy is disabled

[clear igloo]

What switch?

[clear igloo]

If you don't need PoE you could go with this:
https://www.servethehome.com/qnap-qsw-m5216-1t-16-port-desktop-25gbe-switch/
And just get some 1g copper SFPs

[amber urchin]

N9K-C9348GC-FXP

[clear igloo]

Ah yup, that's definitely not quiet 🙂

[amber urchin]

Price is pretty good tho. Found 'em below 200.

[clear igloo]

o.O wow, that's really good

Surpirsed they're going for that low on ebay already but they are going EoL at some point but still in support

[amber urchin]

I probably should have gotten one since the more common price is like $300.

[clear igloo]

Still, that's really good
New price is like 10x that 😛

[amber urchin]

Yeah but as you said, EoL is soon.

[clear igloo]

But EoL announcement and end of software support is at least 2-3 years after that

Plus if you're not putting it on the internet directly you're good

[amber urchin]

Not sure what their announcement was - but they already have made some apparently.

[clear igloo]

It's still orderable so not EoS even

Might have pushed the EoL date out, I'll have to check later

Plus it's got 2x 40/100GbE ports which can breakout to 10/25Gb ports too so you have a total of 12 25Gbe ports with 2x breakout cables off those QSFP ports

[amber urchin]

Yeah. It is a heck of a switch.

[clear igloo]

Yup, and at only about 200w of power average that's really nice

[clear igloo]

So, I did some checking, EoS/EoL dates aren't announced yet

[deft mist]

is there any hope

[young slate]

So is it better at high loads?

[topaz basin]

oh hell yeah put me on

[opal pagoda]

do a test and find out

[wheat solstice]

Me and a friend are thinking of buying one of these and putting some router OS on it (opnsense, pfsense, or something). Anyone got any recommendations of something better or any useful information before we hit the buy button? 😄

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006462840386.html

[silent flax]

probably the same HW as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKUTzjA1grE

just different chasis and rotated otther way around

[wheat solstice]

yea, C3758, very similar

[silent flax]

no, i mean literally the same thing

vs yours

same PCB, just different chasis and internal PSU

so the review above is probably valid for what you look at too

and text article https://www.servethehome.com/the-everything-fanless-home-server-firewall-router-and-nas-appliance-qotom-qnap-teamgroup/

[wheat solstice]

Thanks, seems like a good choice then, was mostly doing a "Am I buying a crap thing when there's a better thing for the same price" check, seems like it's about as good as it gets 🙂

[brave yarrow]

hi

i've got a new isp and router and i have this problem where when i try to download anything, the wifi stops on my pc

it doesn't happen on my phone tho and it reaches about 700 mbps

but on my pc it barely pushes 200

[silent flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx2bo__naP0 actually 😄 & https://www.servethehome.com/everything-homelab-node-goes-1u-rackmount-qotom-intel-review/

[mossy stump]

I found the closest out there and bought it that I could get my hands on. RT-BE88U. 4 2.5 gig ports, 4 1 gig ports 1 10 gig port, and 1 SFP port capable of 10 gig.

For a consumer switch.

[mossy stump]

What is the wifi adapter on your PC? For isntance, my Fold 6 pulls about 300 megabit almost 400 wireless, my Wireless evo laptop that is wifi 7 pulls just over 900 megabit closer to my 1 gig provider speed.

[mossy stump]

That's a neat device, and probably more capable than the Asus I recommended... unless you want Wifi as well. 50 bucks more to add Wifi and otherwise similar capabilities is nice. Plus you can add an SFP, do network virtualization, AND run that SFP to a 10 gig dumb switch for a lot more devices if needed. 🙂 (though if you have a ton of heavy users the 2 gig of ram on the Asus unit might become an issue.,... according to windell.

[silent flax]

Azelphur was asking about that exact device, i just linked a review of it as while it is identical internally to previous device review i linked to him, it has active cooling and internal PSU, which might or might not make him change his decision

[upbeat ember]

I have a question

how do you change the defult dns server on a netgear ex3700?

[opal pagoda]

this thing?

[upbeat ember]

yeah

[opal pagoda]

you need to change it on main router

[upbeat ember]

ah

ok thanks

[opal pagoda]

dns server is advertised through dhcp

[upbeat ember]

but ubiquiti is kinda buggy for some reason

i reset it numerous times

but it refuses to change the server

[peak cloak]

refuses to change on your computer

[upbeat ember]

and i have a raspberry pi running raspap

[peak cloak]

or on the router setting

[upbeat ember]

and it works perfectly fine

[upbeat ember]

no, it doesnt work on any device in the home

[peak cloak]

what ubiquiti device

[upbeat ember]

dream machine pro

[peak cloak]

where are you changing this setting

it needs to be changed under your dhcp server setting, not global router settings

[upbeat ember]

the dns section

[peak cloak]

ah, so yeah that's wrong

[upbeat ember]

ah

the dhcp section not the dns section

thanks

[peak cloak]

yeah since you are changing what dns server you are advertizing via dhcp, not what your router itself uses

[upbeat ember]

im gonna try it right now

[peak cloak]

you can have different subnets with different dhcp advertisements with different settings, that's the advantage of a more advanced router

[upbeat ember]

ok so it didnt give off a bunch of errors like last time so thats good

and it works

[upbeat ember]

ahhh, thats why the dns section doesnt work

i was installing pihole on all my devices

i have like 100 devices that run a web browser around my house

[peak cloak]

damn how

[upbeat ember]

i have a mansion

and we have these tablet things around everywhere

for home assistant

[peak cloak]

ah smart home makes sense

[upbeat ember]

thanks, it worked

ads gone everywhere

[pseudo blade]

Former boss of mine used to brag about having so many smart lights and other devices in his (ugly) quasi-mansion of a house that he couldn't add more within the Z-wave device limit of 232.
A brag of his was that after a power outage it'd take half an hour before he could use his lights due to wireless protocol noise and mesh communication weirdness.
Sounds like hell to me but I'm more the loaded shotgun and own firmware type bar a Tuya power meter I haven't gotten around to trying that with

[upbeat ember]

all of my devices all must be under one criteria - controlled through wifi, and not wifi band, through my home network

[pseudo blade]

Good

[upbeat ember]

so i have no limits

[pseudo blade]

Wait

Not WiFi band?

[upbeat ember]

but i like to limit it

[pseudo blade]

What do you mean

[upbeat ember]

like it makes its own network and i have to control it through bluetooth

i have had a lot of devices that do that

[opal pagoda]

thats zigbee

[pseudo blade]

Ok that's a little gross

[peak cloak]

yeah that's gross

[pseudo blade]

I prefer pure WiFi and segmentation where I really want a smart device

[upbeat ember]

yeah

[opal pagoda]

hardwire everything!

[upbeat ember]

thats why my only requirements is quality and connects to my house wifi

[pseudo blade]

When I get around to security it all will be

[peak cloak]

zwave seems fine

[pseudo blade]

It's kinda shit

[opal pagoda]

seems fine for normal people with 10 or under devices

[pseudo blade]

The mesh sounds like a better idea than it is

[upbeat ember]

if it goes to security, i force everything to be ethernet and no wifi network is even hidden

[peak cloak]

huh, I though it was better then zigbee

[opal pagoda]

it is more standardised but at the end same shit diffrent label

[peak cloak]

havn't really messed with iot stuff, seems overkill for everything to be connected to wifi

[pseudo blade]

Both are super low bandwidth but Z-wave is slower at 100kbps

[upbeat ember]

its really handy

it is overkill, but very useful

for everything to be simple, everything must also be complicated

thats how i like to think about it

[peak cloak]

using the zwave and zigbee stuff seems like a way to filter out products that require internet connection

and all that cloud bs

[pseudo blade]

Overkill? Depends on if you demand flexibility, you'll probably have complete WiFi coverage in your home, readily used standard, no bullshit gateways...

[pseudo blade]

Isolated subnet

The gateways for such protocols often expect internet unless you bully them into working with home assistant

[peak cloak]

yeah but some won't work without it

[upbeat ember]

for me, zigbee doesnt really work because my neighborhood is really friendly and we all have a band to transfer files and securely send text messages using ntfy but that band just so happens to interfere with zigbee so it doesnt even work anyways

so for me, i am kinda forced to not use zigbee

[pseudo blade]

Plus with those protocols if faced with contention your option is to pound sand

[pseudo blade]

Don't use 'em, write your own firmware or use open kit :P

If it's too hard, prefer to do without. Manual lightswitches aren't that much of a burden :P

[opal pagoda]

i just optimise energy usage and that just requires controlling high draw devices

dont care bout anything else

[pseudo blade]

Yeah the devices I have that are networked on firmware I don't have full control over are for that reason

Aircons and a power meter I use for calculating tax writeoff for my home office

Rather hard to get custom firmware on the aircons you see :P

But I have a way to get them talking to my server only

[opal pagoda]

i interface with a solar inverter over modbus tcp and that exposes inverter itself and power meter

[pseudo blade]

Sounds sick

I want to do something similar but RoI on solar isn't really there for my use case

[opal pagoda]

i have made automation that tracks water heater runtime over last 48 hours and turns it on when excess capacity is avalibile, if it doesent hit target runtime (series of cloudy days) it automaticaly turns on to compensate during the cheapest tariff avalibile

[pseudo blade]

$200USD/quarter lol and it's half connection fees, and feedin is 7c/kWhr AUD

[opal pagoda]

yea in au and cali you really need a battery

[pseudo blade]

Battery RoI for me would be over a decade

Unless I went offgrid completely connection fees just kinda rain on that parade with my comparatively modest power usage

[opal pagoda]

there is a neet project on github that enables use of old ev battery for home energy storage with regular inverters

[pseudo blade]

Unless I do it just for the green cred, which I am sorely tempted to do

Australia's "old EV battery" supply isn't crash hot

[opal pagoda]

https://github.com/dalathegreat/Battery-Emulator

[pseudo blade]

It's also very frowned upon by our regulators as a fire hazard unless I convinced an actual electrician to vet it

All for <5kWhr/day

[opal pagoda]

my roi of solar system is 5-6 years lmao (40% off from gvmt, net metering that isnt that bad)

[pseudo blade]

If I had net metering I'd have already put the max I could on the roof, 36c/kW would be madness

[opal pagoda]

well net metering here is done wierdly but i wont complain bc they will make it worse

[pseudo blade]

Net metering died off because our national grid looks like this

[opal pagoda]

yikes

that grid need some storage badly

[pseudo blade]

Yes. Lower dash is -50 which is pretty stupid

But very much so

[opal pagoda]

does australia even have pumped hydro storage?

[pseudo blade]

Nowhere near enough and adding more is apparently a political issue now for reasons I won't discuss here

Light blue

Sub zero is storage

Here, have too much relevant data https://explore.openelectricity.org.au/energy/nem/?range=7d&interval=5m&view=discrete-time&group=Detailed

[opal pagoda]

would be funny to just produce mad amount of hydrogen or amonia during the overproduction times

[pseudo blade]

It was considered for export to Japan made using coal gassification but not via electrolysis for... some reason or another that might involve the minerals council... but likely also due to cost-benefit not lining up as hydrogen storage kinda sucks

[opal pagoda]

thats dumb

[pseudo blade]

Indeed. Anyways yeah I'd consider a networked solar setup and inverter for the tech cred but the financials and grid makeup make it more of a tech/eco/self-sufficient cred decision than a practical one

[tame estuary]

Anyone know how to setup the UDM to use my lancache-DNS to route to my lancache? they are on two different VLANs. I have tried changing the DNS in multiple different locations and it doesnt seem to affect anything at all

[topaz patrol]

After changing the DNS server, did you flush the DNS of the devices?

[tame estuary]

yes

I can get it to route correctly if I set it in windows, But I cant get it to work within the UDM

[topaz patrol]

As in you want the DNS setting to automatically go to all devices?

[tame estuary]

Yes. Similar to how LTT set it up for the whalelan. I just already have a UDM-Pro and would like to get it to work on that (and not have to use PFsense/OPNsense)

theres just no documentation online and I have tried setting the DNS in multiple different locations within the UDM

[topaz patrol]

Settings > Network

Select the network, then there should be a spot to set the dns servers

Then you will have to renew the DHCP leases of all the devices so they pick up the new DNS settings

Don’t have any UBNT to give any better advice sorry

[opal pagoda]

@tame estuary reffer to this regarding your issue

Sounds like same problem

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll I need/want to redo all of my VPN solutions lol 🤣

Need to redo site to sites, currently it is a mixture of IPSec, ZeroTier, and WireGuard all over the place.

As for remote client access there is none anymore. Ngl idk if I really need to bring this back....

I would love to standardize on something like ZeroTier for all of the sites.
BGP between each ZeroTier node at each site to find networks and paths to the network.
OSPF between the ZeroTier node to the local site router from BGP paths it found. Even better if it can be its own thing so its not reliant on a server that is shared. Or make "network services" server its own thing at each site to provide DNS & DHCP at each site along with new VPN capabilities.

And then I'd love to implement another DNS recursor and maybe move authoritative DNS to something like Route53 so that way there's at least a resolver online even if the local ones are down.

[opal pagoda]

Have you heard od headscale?

Essentially self hosted tailscale head server

[tame estuary]

suprisingly yes

thanks!

[thorny osprey]

my friend is getting this much on steam on his archer AX15 but

im getting dis much on steam on archer AX23

both using ethernet
same ISP
I have superior package

[lavish hollow]

distance? walls? lots of other signals blasting around?

[thorny osprey]

ethernet.

[lavish hollow]

cables? nic set to 100mbit?

[thorny osprey]

nop

speedtest shows 920mbps

fast.com shows 470 mbps

[lavish hollow]

you're not guaranteed certain speeds especially from a busy cdn like steam

[unkempt finch]

fuck i have to get in a celing and run cat 6 today

[thorny osprey]

how abt my frend on da other ss

[lavish hollow]

I can test my connection right now and max out my 2.5gbe nic but only get 40-50MB/s from steam

how about my friend on the other screenshot

[thorny osprey]

wat abt for him

hes still gettings 900 mbps ;-;

[lavish hollow]

are you using the same servers for steam? do you live in the same area

welcome to external networks, it's not like an internal network ( lan) where you can control more factors and don't have to share as much

[thorny osprey]

same area

dunno same servers or not

[lavish hollow]

even different neighborhoods in the same city can have different speeds

[thorny osprey]

same block

[lavish hollow]

you can check settings -> download

it's likely just steam servers and nothing ISP related

is it even the same game you're downloading?

[thorny osprey]

may not be

he didnt kno wat game he is downloading

[thorny osprey]

THANKS

WAYY BETTER

@lavish hollow do u kno how to change servers in epic games?

[lavish hollow]

there isn't an option in the settings for that

[thorny osprey]

aw

is there a way to make my router look for singapore servers instead of indian idk

[lone charm]

maybe a vpn on whatever system you use?

[fleet field]

Is this good speeds for Wi-Fi?

[gloomy torrent]

Hey, I'm looking into installing a network switch in my apartment. however we only have 1 Ethernet cable that comes from the living room (room 1) and connects the main router to a 5G router (in bridge) that's in my room (room 3) and has a single RJ45 port. I want to be able to connect more things using cable, like my PC/docked notebook and other stuff in the room like my rapberry pi. Can I safely put a switch in here and from it connect the bridged secondary router without compromising the current quality of my network (speeds and wtc)?

here's the current situation:

here's what I'm considering doing:

also, are these any good?

[thorny osprey]

on 2.4Ghz?

[opal pagoda]

how do you leverage 2 wan connections?

[fleet field]

Idk?

[gloomy torrent]

wdym?

the 2nd isp router is on bridge mode with the first

[opal pagoda]

so just a access point?

[gloomy torrent]

yep

[opal pagoda]

then it is fine

[fleet field]

How much would it increase if I had Ethernet?

[gloomy torrent]

someone in #tech-chat-1 helçped me solve it already

thanks anyway

[opal pagoda]

they are just basic unmanaged switch, nothing more nothing less
top one is 100mbps and is manufactured ewaste, bottom one is ok

[gloomy torrent]

that one is a 5 port, should i get the 8 port one?

just for future proofing....

[opal pagoda]

sure its probably only 5$ more

[gloomy torrent]

to me its like 40 but yes its $5 more

in my country (usd$5 = $$40)

[thorny osprey]

should get max of ur package

[fleet field]

Should I have this on auto negotiation or 1 gb?

[opal pagoda]

leave it on

unless you are having issues with higher than gigabit detection

[mossy stump]

That completely depends on your provider and connection type.

[mossy stump]

For instance... I can run a test and post results here from my laptop but it's in my office, next to a wifi 7 ish router (RT-BE88U) and I pull over 800 megabit wifi off of my 1 gig connection. I'll test again once my connection is upgraded to 2 gig (don't get me started on stupid upgrade policies from my provider.)

[opal pagoda]

this is not correct testing methodology. i would reccomend running iperf server on a wired device and then test wifi device pointing to this server

when you are traversing wan you are relying on factors you cannot control such as isp utilisation in your area and speedtest server load

[quaint siren]

Kind of a weird thing.
By ISP, I should be getting 200Mbps down and whatever Mbps up which is through 5G cellular.

If let the ISP router connect to 5G cellular bands, I'll get massive speeds as like 200Mbps but if that goes on any longer, ISP router would just lose connection to the cellular tower (ISP sees no issue here) and I have to deselect the 5G cellular bands and use the LTE/4G bands so I get lower speeds.

Is that ISP cutting me out from the cellular or it's router issue?

[mossy stump]

Sounds like demand based throttling.

[mossy stump]

You are correct. But when I'm responding to someoen else's speed test dot net results I'll respond with like data and try to explain. 😉

[mossy stump]

Rocky we need to understand a bit more about your setup. For raw wireless speed I would not call that good but your distance to wifi, connection speeds, wifi type, and all of that apply as well as the device settings. Can you expand more on that?

[fleet field]

I’m on Wi-Fi the router is directly below me downstairs. Idk the WiFi’s type

[mossy stump]

ok so that means we can't really say if that is good or bad. As an example on a wifi 5ghz with wifi 7 options from my wired system to my wireless laptop I pull about 582 megabit. around 65 megabytes a second. when I go to my provider I pull around 965 megabit. Or arond 100 megabytes a second. But there are a TON of variables that don't match.

I'll post wired and wireless numbers once I get upgraded to 2 gig internet. 😉

[twin sphinx]

Installed my new PoE doorbell today and I love it

[fleet field]

How much do u think my speed will increase if I get Ethernet?

[mossy stump]

Honestly it might not boost by much at all. Due to the ISP and what you're paying for.

[topaz patrol]

If you’re in a multi level building, and your WiFi router has external antennas, you may have luck pointing half of them parallel to the floor, and the other half perpendicular to the floor.

[fleet field]

It doesn’t have any antennas

[fleet field]

What’s isp? And would it decrease my ping? I have like 13 ping in speed test but in Fortnite I get like around 30

[mossy stump]

Ao speedrest is to a local host. Going wired is less latency than wifi and your connection won't fluctuate as much. If you can unobtrusively run a cable do it.

[thick minnow]

is powerline viable, dad won't install new ethernet ports
the house is ~25 years old, 2 story + basement

[peak cloak]

Depends

Depends on the electrical circuits

[thick minnow]

how so

[topaz patrol]

Wifi is usually a better option than powerline

[thick minnow]

wifi in my basement corner is annoying so I switched to ethernet but running the 100ft cable through 2 doors (50ft was just barely too short) they're wearing out now

[topaz patrol]

By WiFi I mean a mesh system with dedicated wireless backhaul

[thick minnow]

would that replace my router

I don't think it's a range issue I think there's just too many obstructions between my garage and the basement

[topaz patrol]

Which is essentially a range issue

[fleet field]

Which do I plug Ethernet cord into?

[topaz patrol]

If you want

[thick minnow]

then I'd have to convince dad to (let me) replace the router, which I doubt he'll bother with

[topaz patrol]

Were you going to pay for it?

[fleet field]

@mossy stump

[thick minnow]

yeah, but he's lazy even though he likes to say "it's my house"

I asked him which outlets are on what circuits and lets just say I didn't get an answer

[mossy stump]

I'd look for a port marked LAN. and not replace anything already plugged in. Sadly my knowledge of home routers is limited to the ones I've owned/used and that isn't one. 🙂

[copper ginkgo]

can someone help me understand this trueNAS scale error? started happening after i updated from 22.12 to 24.10

[high needle]

Anyone know of any 4 port ish 2.5 gigabit switches with a 10 gigabit sfp uplink that aren't from a random Chinese brand

And/or does anyone have experience with the Chinese ones if they're reliable or constantly need rebooting?

I don't mind spending a little more than the Chinese ones the only issue is that stuff like the tp link ones that are almost £100 don't have the sfp uplink

[mossy stump]

Price range?

[high needle]

Which would be nice since I have a 10 gigabit link to my nas and a 2.5 gigabit wifi 7 point so would be nice to be able to saturate 2.5 on my desktop and still have bandwidth for WiFi devices to use the nas

[high needle]

£100 ish mark?

Doesn't need poe or anything

[mossy stump]

Nope sorry. I have an Asus that does all of that and more and is a wifi ap.

But it's 350 us.

[high needle]

I am fine with the Chinese ones if anyone here can confirm if they're rock solid and not unreliable af

[high needle]

Right yeah unifi setup here so wildly different beast

[mossy stump]

Yea

[high needle]

Wifi ap is separate from router hence just need a switch

[opal pagoda]

Yea i belive @silent flax has it
Either way they are cheap af so no big loss even if it dies

[silent flax]

i have the 8+1-port one running for a year now https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005979888507.html
two 4+2 and 8+1 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005931222439.html running for 11 months.

All of them run 24/7

[high needle]

Less the loss of if it dies and more the I dont want to deal with constant complaints if it drops out and needs a reboot

Ive managed to get everything rock solid networking wise after getting rid of (some) flaky ISP hubs and adding extra hardwired APs to solve signal issues at the far depths of the property id rather not introduce a weak point, not having to deal with "the wifi isnt working" every few weeks is bliss

[high needle]

Hmm cool, no packet loss/crashes to report I guess?

I dont strictly need the 10 gigabit uplink but would be nice to be able to take advantage of the 10 gigabit link to my NAS and not have the entire uplink saturated by one client

I know unifi has the 10gb flex which would be ideal but no sfp slots means im gonna have to pay for a 10 gigabit rj45 sfp for the router instead of a direct dac cable link which will add to what is a fairly expensive switch already

[amber urchin]

I just have my desktop and NAS directly attached to eachother. Both having separate gigabit (full house x.x.1.1/24) and 25 gigabit (point to point x.x.0.1/30) connections.

I mean, technically, I also have a 10 gigabit connection between both and a machine I put proxmox on to mess around with.

[silent flax]

i have not had any issues. Tons of these were reviewed by servethehome, they are all built on same pair of realtek chips (8+1 and 5+1 ones) or single realtek chip (4+2 ones)

[high needle]

Yeah mine goes through main router, the annoyance is I need access to it across the entire house

I have my gaming pc in my room but also have a laptop I use around the house and a dell micro in the garage for when im working on electronics projects out there

Also do some PC work out there so being able to copy hard drive images/isos to and from nas at a gigabit is handy

[amber urchin]

I can access my NAS at gigabit/wireless from anywhere in the house over that ip range/subnet and at 25gig from the desktop via a different ip/subnet

The only rule saying you can only have one network is that you're out of PCIE slots.

Well - and I suppose USB ports

[high needle]

Hmm yeah I think I get it but seems like a bit of a hassle

I deal with IT 8 hours a day I would really just rather the "it just works" way personally lol

[amber urchin]

It does just work with two. lol

I mean you need to manually configure the IPs on the point to point connection since there's no DHCP server.

[high needle]

Yeah fairs

Guess it might be an interesting option for having high bandwidth to one device (I have a spare 10gb port on the NIC in my server) but means running an extra cable for me unfortunately

Which is easier said than done

[amber urchin]

Yeah, mine are only a few feet apart (or inches in the case of the NAS and proxmox box)

[high needle]

Ahhhh right, yeah all the server stuff is contained in a closet for me lol

And yeah my rooms on another floor and garage is very far apart

Have cat6a run to both

(I did consider fiber for the garage run but deemed it overkill)

Plus first external DIY cable install I dont think fiber cable would have survived lol

[silent flax]

personally i have a ConnectX-3 in server, optical to the china 8+1 router, which then gives 2.5 links to everything else in the house.

[high needle]

Ah cool, x520-da2 here, think it might be end of support tho

[silent flax]

for Linux it is fine, for Windows i don't know which old 10gbe are supported. Probably only connectx-3 from the cheap ones

[thick minnow]

update; the basement is on a different circuit than my garage, no signal went through

I connected a laptop on the same floor and it worked so it's not the device or network

the basement has a different circuit breaker

or maybe it is?
100ft crumbled up ethernet cable vs powerline

[frosty oracle]

hello I'm behind CGNAT, what are my choices to port forward?

[opal pagoda]

what do you want to host?

[amber urchin]

I have a feeling I probably have the craziest NAS of just 8TB of rust on the planet. I really need to upgrade my drive situation. I'd like to get a SAS HBA and double the number of 4TB drives to 8. This is the one with the 25 gig.

[opal pagoda]

I have a 9207-8i and it is a decent card for the money, if you need sas 12 then get lsi 9300

[amber urchin]

9211-8i is what I have in my watchlist.

[carmine moss]

tbh for a lsi 9300-8i they are cheap like under 60 with cables

tho depends on the type of cables your chassis uses or case as some cables yeah are a bit more but for 45ish you can get a bare card

[cinder plank]

I got myself a ICX7150-C12P but I am having issues with just the management port connected, I updated the firmware and factory reset the config. I'm running the router mode.
This issue is that the switch responds to the arp who is 192.168.1.1 request before the real network router/gateway does which causes devices on the the network to fail to communicate to the real gateway at 192.168.1.1. The dynamically assigned management ip is working at 192.168.1.226. So it shouldn't respond to who is 192.168.1.1 at all.
What am I missing, how do I prevent it from responding to who is 192.168.1.1?

[peak cloak]

I don't think your issue is arp and this is an ab problem

are you trying to connect to the managment UI

[cinder plank]

The ui and telnet etc are all working fine. It's had an ip at 192.168.1.226

[cinder plank]

This is a wireshark capture. The sony device fails to talk to the router Arcadyan and thus the Internet because the ruckus jumps in with its mac and messes it all up

[fickle trench]

hey! i'm trying to get my home pc set up for windows remote desktop (win11 pro). i've done this at work using the eero app, since that's what we had already been using. at home, i have a tp-link AXE16000 Quad-Band Wi-Fi 6E Router using a tp-link deco axe5400 mesh system. my pc is hardwired to the mesh point that is in my room.

i set up remote desktop on windows just like i did at work, enabling rdp through the firewall, configuring an rdp port that's not default, and i'm running into issues with the port forwarding and ip addresses. when i do ipconfig in cmd, it pulls up an ip address that says is not in the same subnet when i am trying to add a port forwarding reservation.

i'm happy to give more details where applicable and where i can, but i am a little lost. some resources have said to set my device to a static ip address, but that just breaks connectivity with the ethernet and it defaults to wi-fi. any help is greatly appreciated!

[peak cloak]

sounds like you have a double nat problem

and you should not be port forwarding rdp

use a vpn or something, but raw rdp should never be exposed

[hollow ginkgo]

Sorry to give a random ask but; how the hell do I find the IP of my switch?

it's a pair of HP Procurve 1810G-24 J9450A that I got from a junkyard. The manual says to give it a factory reset using a button and then plug it into a PC; then you assign the PC 192.168.2.XXX where XXX isn't 10, and you assign a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, before connecting to the switch's management interface at 192.168.2.10 and play from there. Visually, it all seems to work, but I can't connect to 192.168.2.10 at all. I've tried a couple of nmaps and nothing shows up. do yall have any ideas? Both of these units behave the same, and they appear to function. They work as switches, I just can't connect to the management interface. Sadly, there is no serial/console port, apart from an internal JTAG that I don't have a header for.

[radiant shell]

when you are setting your ip and nmaping are you using a direct connection to the switch with no other connections, they will normally pickup dhcp if you provide it with a connection to your current router

[hollow ginkgo]

I had disconnected everything else, yes

solved! it turns out that the manual does not state the factory reset procedure, which involves two paperclips and several minutes

after doing a factory reset, it worked as expected

[radiant shell]

Good to hear

[fickle trench]

i'm not very experienced in networking, but i think i understand this part. what do you recommend that i do to get this to work? do i have to have a vpn active at all times that i want rdp to be available? i know my network setup makes this a bit more complicated, but i unfortunately can't change it at all. i don't know much about rdp security or anything, so this is greatly appreciated!

[opal pagoda]

That card is pcie2.0 btw

[amber urchin]

yes, 8 lanes of it. Plenty enough bandwidth for 8 hard drives. Likely a minor bottleneck for 8 SSDs though.

[pulsar thorn]

Whoops, forgot to close Wireshark lol https://i.jcksn.rip/PKpAQ.png

[silent flax]

i had my first LSI issues over the holidays. I was away and the controller "lost" 2 disks. Reboot didn't help. Full power down and power on did bring the drives back, zero problem on drive side. Maybe my card is giving up after 6+ years ? Or just had a bad day 😄

[peak cloak]

I would use tailscale so you can access your computer from anywhere

[opal pagoda]

Sure if you have lanes to spare

[amber urchin]

It is a bit tight on my X99 board as it does limit me to just one of the HBAs, but I can get by.

It's not like I could run two HBAs if they were gen 3 four lane anyway since lanes aren't the only limitations. Physical slots and how/if the slot can be bifurcated are.

[cinder plank]

@peak cloak what do you reckon the issue is?

[peak cloak]

I'm not too familiar with low level stuff like this, so honestly idk

[opal pagoda]

ok, x99 has plenty of lines but in my case i value lanes alot since consumer chips tipicaly have 16 + chipset lanes and i like to run really fast network cards

[amber urchin]

yeah, I wouldn't try to nas/lab off a consumer socket myself because I like to do silly because I can stuff like the 25gig network, 16 cores and 256gb of ram for just four 4tb hdds. lol

[cinder plank]

Ok. I'll see if anyone else has any ideas. Thx.
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I got myself a ICX7150-C12P but I am having issues with just the management port connected, I updated the firmware and factory reset the config. I'm running the router mode.
This issue is that the switch responds to the arp who is 192.168.1.1 request before the real network router/gateway does which causes devices on the the network to fail to communicate to the real gateway at 192.168.1.1. The dynamically assigned management ip is working at 192.168.1.226. So it shouldn't respond to who is 192.168.1.1 at all.
What am I missing, how do I prevent it from responding to who is 192.168.1.1?

This is a wireshark capture. The sony device fails to talk to the router Arcadyan and thus the Internet because the ruckus jumps in with its mac and messes it all up.

[tribal sequoia]

is proxy arp enabled or something?

yeah that sounds like proxy arp

the question is why, is the default vlan on the switch perhaps isolating devices?

@cinder plank

[cinder plank]

I have tested with it disabled and it didn't seem to fix the issue.

[cinder plank]

wdym? Atm, the only thing connected on the switch is its management port

[tribal sequoia]

nothing, but proxy arp would be the only reason i could possibly think for it to reply to arp

pm me the config it has

[cinder plank]

done.

[cinder plank]

I'm also having a second go at disabling proxy-arp, with a full reboot

It didn't fix it

[cinder plank]

what are the other enable features? telnet@ICX7150-C12 Router>show ip Global Settings ttl: 64, arp-age: 10, bootp-relay-max-hops: 4 router-id : 0.0.0.0 enabled : UDP-Broadcast-Forwarding Source-Route Load-Sharing RARP VSRP arp-port-move-syslog disabled: Route-Only Directed-Broadcast-Forwarding BGP4 IRDP Proxy-ARP RIP OSPF VRRP VRRP-Extended ICMP-Redirect add-host-route-first telnet@ICX7150-C12 Router> would they cause any issues?

[tribal sequoia]

not that i'm aware of

[cinder plank]

There is the route map stuff since it is in router mode. Would any of this have anything to do with it? ```telnet@ICX7150-C12 Router#show ip route
Total number of IP routes: 2
Type Codes - B:BGP D:Connected O:OSPF R:RIP S:Static; Cost - Dist/Metric
BGP Codes - i:iBGP e:eBGP
OSPF Codes - i:Inter Area 1:External Type 1 2:External Type 2
STATIC Codes - v:Inter-VRF
Destination Gateway Port Cost Type Uptime
1 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.1.1 e mgmt1 254/1 S 19m36s
2 192.168.1.0/24 DIRECT e mgmt1 0/0 D 19m56s
telnet@ICX7150-C12 Router#