networking

[clever tartan]

yeah ive been putting it off because nowhere else in my house really has power thats sort of tucked way

[pseudo blade]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clever tartan]

i dont have ethernet anywhere though

[pseudo blade]

That's pretty much all the advice there is to give I'm afraid

[clever tartan]

its allg, ty for helping though

[pseudo blade]

You can make a fan baffle like in a recent LTT video but it won't magically make 40mm fans at top speed bearable in your bedroom

[clever tartan]

oh these arent at top speed at all

[pseudo blade]

Hyperbole

[clever tartan]

oh mb

[wet dock]

Hey fellas, for those of you who I haven't asked yet, I want to mount this rack that's on the floor to the wall behind it up high. Unfortunately I don't have any studs in that wall, but I do have what's probably a good 3/8-1/2" worth of solid wood. What would you guys recommend to mount it? The rack is about....30-40 lbs as it sits right now.

[twin sphinx]

personally

my rack is really similar. get a couple of 2x4’s and put them into the wood with 1-2” lag screws and washers, then mount the rack with 1-1/2” lag bolts and washers into the 2x4s. mine is really sturdy

[wet dock]

That's what I needed, thank you sir!

[twin sphinx]

I came to show off my cable management

[wet dock]

Mine's all done with electrical tape lol.

but very nicely done

[thorny osprey]

wat

[ornate jungle]

👀

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/i-was-clearing-space-on-my-router-and-managed-to-remove-some-important-luci-files-and-need-some-help-replacing-them-reparing-luci/165359

[thorny osprey]

can i jst reset it

[ornate jungle]

You'll likely have to, if you don't know what caused the error screen. Things like this usually don't "just happen" out of the blue - do you recall doing anything prior to this error occuring?

[thorny osprey]

i hav no idea wat theyre talking abt

[thorny osprey]

y does dis exist for a router

[ornate jungle]

huh? where are you seeing this? (if this is on a public-facing site, a link would be helpful.)

[thorny osprey]

in 192.168.1.1

[ornate jungle]

Seems it's part of OpenWRT. https://openwrt.org/packages/pkgdata/amdgpu-firmware

[topaz patrol]

Has anyone used this rack “extenders”? I’m not sure how strong they look lol

I really don’t want to replace a whole rack because one set of rails is too deep lmao

[opal pagoda]

it is probably allright, i would like to see it being made longer at the rack side, like a trapezoid to better distrubute the loads

[topaz patrol]

Yeah

[opal pagoda]

maybe buying larger size than needed would help

1u looks sketchy

[topaz patrol]

Hmm yeah probably a better idea

I think it needs to support ~30kg

[opal pagoda]

how thick is metal in your rack?

[topaz patrol]

maybe 2-3mm, not sure it's at a client

[opal pagoda]

ok, as long as it is reputable brand and not made of chinesium it should be fine

[topaz patrol]

Yeah it's been there for a solid 20 years and it's not moving

[formal star]

Is anyone familiar with running HA proxy on pfsense?
I have it set up with my domain were the www prefix directs properly to my web server, however I have been trying to get the root domain to also point to my www server. I tried setting Host matches: mydomain.com -> use Backend: www however no luck. Any ideas what i might be missing?

[thick minnow]

Whats a good free rmm software?

[scarlet turret]

I have 1gig fiber is there anything, any network setting I can utilize to get the best usage or connection possible? I am am a very competitive online gamer.

[topaz patrol]

I think action1 gives you 50 or so endpoints free

Otherwise you can get VSA X or Datto for ~3USD/endpoint/month including bit defender gz

[thick minnow]

https://www.telus.com/en/about/news-and-events/media-releases/telus-brings-the-fastest-home-internet-speeds-to-customers-in-western-canada-with-new-purefibre-5-gigabit-internet

[ornate jungle]

Nice. Now, if only the CRTC would regulate Canadian Internet prices.

[buoyant dust]

should I route an ethernet cable thru my attic??????

[polar timber]

yes, you can do that 👍

[buoyant dust]

should i

[polar timber]

I have them going inside walls but thats not possible after walls have been built 😄

[buoyant dust]

we were gonna do in wall Ethernet

[polar timber]

Yeah, every room has ethernet ports on wall

[buoyant dust]

but my father decided not to for some reason

[polar timber]

But routing the cable thru attic is good option too

[buoyant dust]

yeah I was gonna use ethernet cause my room is far far far away from my router and I wanted to mess around with networking stuff cause I wanted to be a network engineer

[polar timber]

You could probably then get the cables inside the wall from the attic and install ports on the wall for clean install

depending how the house is built

[buoyant dust]

that would probably take to long tho

but a cable coming down from my ceiling would prob look ugly

[polar timber]

Also you could just drill hole to roof and run the cables inside some wire channels

but I would try to get them going inside the wall from the attic if possible

[buoyant dust]

I should put a switch up in the attic lmao

[polar timber]

or just run multiple cables 😄

and put the switch near the router

[buoyant dust]

true

[polar timber]

I have two cables to each room

[buoyant dust]

I could do that or do the funny route and use a switch in the attic

[polar timber]

then you can put switch to the room the cable is run to

to get even more ports

[buoyant dust]

I only need like 2 ports so meh

there isnt a reason to put a switch up there

[polar timber]

i think so too 😄

so just run one or two cables and then put the switch to that room if needed

[thick minnow]

yall complaining when AT&T charges insane prices for the same speed

mobility here is a joke tho for sure

[buoyant dust]

the only reason I would need it is if I was putting up cameras around my house

[thick minnow]

its like 200 + a month for at&t 5gig

in USD
my friend lives in florida

[ornate jungle]

I'll complain until the Communications Industry (worldwide) is considered a regulated basic service like Power or Water. But also, yeah... cellular services are also terrible in North America.

[thick minnow]

yep canada espicially

you best bet im getting that upgrade tho

its like 20 bucks more than the 3gig plan which i got rn

im getting a call bacl tomorrow

ima order some static ips while im at it

[polar timber]

true. if you have some outlets on attic to power the switch you can do that. if not, you can just put switch near the router and run more cables from there

[topaz patrol]

Regulation can be done well, but it can also be done poorly

[thick minnow]

i went with telus business because home services didnt offer 3gig at the time and its better tbh can get static ips

[topaz patrol]

For example here in Australia, even with less than 500 subscribers, we pay over $20k a year in ombudsman fees, carrier licensing etc

[thick minnow]

dude ausie telecoms are a scam

[topaz patrol]

It makes it very difficult for smaller players to compete

[thick minnow]

i know i feel your pain i got friends down there

[topaz patrol]

I am speaking from the point of view of a telco :)

[thick minnow]

oh no way

who you work for

idk why telus actually try hards tho

shaw is their only competator where i live its still coax

and thet charge fair prices when you compare the 2

telus is western company VS rogers & shaw which are now the same i forgot

im super tired tweaked tf out hyped up now

my bad for twisting your convo

me getting ready to get HE 10gig and then i find out telus has 5 gig as of this month

[topaz patrol]

The membership fees to be apart of the telecommunications industry ombudsman alone are crazy for a small CSP/RSP/ISP

[buoyant dust]

so dead

[opal pagoda]

what do you get in return?

aka cant you be a compleatly independent telco?

[topaz patrol]

You don't get sued by the ACMA :)

It's a legal requirement

Basically an "independent" mediator for any disputes with subscribers

You also get fined for every complaint (which I think is good)

[opal pagoda]

sounds very bs-y

[topaz patrol]

lmao

[opal pagoda]

ah it is .gov.au

[topaz patrol]

Lots of
bureaucracy

[topaz patrol]

https://tio.com.au

Not being a member of the TIO is illegal though

And then for each complaint one of these fees is charged

[opal pagoda]

and who can complain?

[topaz patrol]

Your subscribers

Then the required Telecommunications Consumer Protections Code annual lodgement fees

It's just ridiculous for the small guys imo

[opal pagoda]

it is

[topaz patrol]

The bigger players have even more compliance stuff, but they can deal with that 😛

[opal pagoda]

they have dedicated legal team

[topaz patrol]

Yep

It just seems unreasonable to expect non mega corps to do all this lmao

[opal pagoda]

classic "burry them in paperwork"

[topaz patrol]

Good ol' rant lmao

I'm sure there's a whole heap of other stuff we're meant to do too that I've never even heard of

[opal pagoda]

it is soo good that i dont have to deal with that goverment regulation stuff in enterprise lmao

[topaz patrol]

lmao

VoIP and telephony is a whole other can of regulations too

[opal pagoda]

when analog comms break/got cut we go aw yep and just run a ethernet to connect them with voip

[topaz patrol]

Still better than no regulation I guess 🫠

[opal pagoda]

i dont really deal with UC anyway since another team member is dealing with it, i just know basics

cucm is something straight from hell

[topaz patrol]

lmao

Legally you can’t even offer postpaid services without credit checks and suitability assessments

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/telstra-to-pay-50m-penalty-for-unconscionable-sales-to-indigenous-consumers
But it doesn't stop the mega corps :)

[opal pagoda]

ah "just eat the fine as cost of business" move

[topaz patrol]

Yep

Fuck you

[pseudo blade]

Ah yes I remember that one

[pseudo blade]

Don't worry, they make service staff do a course every year about it now (I'm sure that makes a difference)

[topaz patrol]

Lmao

Very much so fuck

[dusk quail]

Random thing but I have a question, I'm currently interested in getting a headstart of my networking academy in TCP/IP subnetting, is there any places you suggest looking into so I can have a general background of the subject?

I'm just wondering if anyone has experience with it or knows good places to study as I really want push myself torwards a career in cybersecurity

[velvet prairie]

Check for some courses on YouTube 😊 and follow them, or skillsforall

There are cisco beginners courses you can do them for free 😃

[dusk quail]

Thanks will check them out

[full bough]

Gotta go fast

[opal pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WfiTHiU4x8&list=PLIhvC56v63IKrRHh3gvZZBAGvsvOhwrRF
network chuck can probably help you in learning network topics, like one you listed

[opal pagoda]

where are you struggling in particular?

[dusk quail]

Just starting monday so I was looking for generalized knowledge of the subject etc

Decided to write down basic networking terms and descriptions

For personal notes to study

Lingo etc

[opal pagoda]

network chuch has free ccna course, watch as much as you can handle and you should be good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7MNX_UD7vY&list=PLIhvC56v63IJVXv0GJcl9vO5Z6znCVb1P

[dusk quail]

I'll look into it, I just wanted to get ahead early, since these networking classes affect my college gpa

[opal pagoda]

if you have any specific questions just ask here and someone will answer

[dusk quail]

Noted 👍

Thanks btw

[opal pagoda]

np 👍

[velvet sundial]

Hi just curious whats a good starting switch that i could use to make it so i have ethetnet cords going to both my comps?

Or is that something a hub would actually be good for

[ornate jungle]

I hope nobody's making Hubs anymore in 2024. 😛 If you just need a "dumb" unmanaged switch to allow multiple wired connections in a location that only has one wired connection, tada:
https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-TL-SG105-1000Mbps-Desktop-Gigabit/dp/B00A128S24/
https://www.amazon.ca/NETGEAR-5-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged/dp/B07S98YLHM/

[velvet sundial]

appreciate it

[velvet sundial]

also just sense you responded are hubs really good for like anything? cause i know they just randomize packets unlike switches so thats kinda i assumed just to plug shit in would work.

[ornate jungle]

Perhaps in the 1990's they were good, but these days... there's literally zero reason I can think of to use a Hub when "dumb" unmanaged switches are around $20 ish.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ITCareerQuestions/comments/13xoxer/whats_the_difference_between_a_hub_and_a_switch/

[velvet sundial]

not surprised. well appreciate it

[velvet sundial]

also ik cat 6 is pretty much standard but is it good that there so skinny? cause like when i made my own it was not so skinny port

another one

it was between those 2 i found

[ornate jungle]

So long as they're both quality cables, flat vs. round doesn't matter too much... Only really plays into things if the cable is shoddily made or you're looking to run outrageous lengths.

[velvet sundial]

well its going from my wall right to my computer on my dresser which is pretty much right next to my desk

and i have some ancient cable that i dont know how old it is so when buying the switch thought id just look into it

[full bough]

Do you know what cable is in your wall?

Cause that'll pull down your speed if it's like cat4 or cat5/5e

[turbid umbra]

Hey guys I was wondering if I can use Ethernet Backhual on my ASUS Router Mesh Node if it’s a DSL Router

If so how would I go about doing this if the WAN Port is DSL and I’m not sure if I could even enable Dual WAN because you can’t access the Node Routers entire WebGUI when it’s in a Mesh Network

[opal pagoda]

What model do you have?

[turbid umbra]

DSL-AC68U and I’ve now unfortunately seen a FAQ on ASUS website saying it doesn’t support Ethernet Backhaul because the model lacks a dedicated Ethernet WAN Port

Also I feel my mesh system isn’t working the best devices that are right next to the mesh node are still connecting to the main router

Even when using the optimise function it usually connects to the main one or it connects to the node for a few minutes then back to the main router

[thick minnow]

this is my fav series from him this playlist helped me learning the basic at best

[fallow flax]

Hi sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this but currently I use one of these (it came with my z790 motherboard) I get good speeds issue is sometimes it can be inconsistant for gaming over wifi I was wondering if there is a better replacement for this? I tried wifi mesh/extenders and they make it worse

I also tried plugging direct into the wifi mesh via ethernet and that is even more inconsistant and gives me internet instability

could this be a better replacement for this? Or should I be thinking of some other fix?

[tight pecan]

If you're using a wireless mesh solution, then you're SOL

[peak cloak]

Your problem sounds like your router/local network issue, not client

[tight pecan]

I would try using ethernet to connect directly to the router that is wired up to your modem. See if there's any issues there. If there is none, then you'll need to rethink your mesh setup, perhaps cat6 running to all of your APs

Wifi is already inconsistent in regards to latency. Having to hop through multiple APs wirelessly makes it much worse

[fallow flax]

Okay thanks ill try connect directly with a long cable and see if issue persists

[formal star]

is anyone familiar with running haproxy on pfsense?
I have a domain running and if someone uses my domain without a subdomain such as www, i get a 503 error no server is avalible to handel this request I tryed setting a default backend and setting Host matches: mydomain.com -> backend www, however still the same result. Any help would be appreciated.

[fallow flax]

Yeah wired in is fine

[velvet sundial]

nah i dont sadly and im half way across the house so its not like i would be able to just replace it

[tight pecan]

Have fun running cat6 to all your APs 👍

[fallow flax]

i got 5e

[tight pecan]

Should be fine

[twin sphinx]

unpopular opinion: mesh systems are not always the best and I wish cable companies would stop promising them as the end all, be all, fix all

[silent flax]

it generates heat, but nothing insane. It will do fine imo

[thorn delta]

Better than what they did before, where they'd put the one modem/router combo in the Bermuda Triangle of your water heater, furnace, and convenient stack of lead bricks then tell you to pound sand or go to best buy and "figure it out" when you complained about wifi coverage

hardwiring a half decent mesh system gets pretty close to the performance of a proper APs, but the cable company techs will basically never do that.

[topaz patrol]

But they’re very profitable

[opal pagoda]

3.6w max power
it will do just fine

[opal pagoda]

hardwiring mesh devices makes them not mesh and i would guess that most people just dont know about 802.11r which mesh devices use

[thorn delta]

Of course, but it's still packaged and sold as a mesh system and that's what I'm talking about.

Wish they were sold with a more accurate name but that's marketing folks for you

[dusk quail]

Isn't the command in your profile the equivalent of sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root

Just a random question

[topaz patrol]

Yes

[dusk quail]

Ah thought as much, part me was like hmm that sounds too good to be true, that a single command would make ur pc 2x faster, if only such a command existed

It will make it run faster just without an operating system so your technically not wrong

[topaz patrol]

Exactly

[opal pagoda]

Mhm very nice command, might include in pxe install script later

[buoyant dust]

I just got gifted a switch and I don't even know what to do with it cause I don't have my router near me and I don't have ethernet

[opal pagoda]

what switch do you have?

[buoyant dust]

Idk it's a tp link switch tho

[opal pagoda]

can you read the model number?

[buoyant dust]

Well no cause I'm not at home

[civic elk]

Who gifts a switch

[worthy coral]

Epic switch

[buoyant dust]

My sister

[civic elk]

You'll find a use for it someday

[hazy flare]

How do i set up a nas so i can watch videos an listen to music on the go with my phone

[topaz patrol]

https://tailscale.com/blog/introducing-tailscale-funnel

[shadow sundial]

hello all is anyone aroudn to help explain how plex using transcoding? ihave a friend form Hawaii using my plex server ( im in Pennsylvania) and she buffers with anything she watches. im not what setting to change to help withthat. Plex should be encoding off my 6700xt GPU, and i get over alomost a gig dowload. what could be bottlenecking or huritng the connection. she is also on a managed acount on my server not her own sperate account if that mattters.

hello

[clear igloo]

you're uploading to her, download doesn't help anything here
AMD GPUs aren't officially support so working with plex is very hit or miss

[shadow sundial]

ok so what can i do to fix this?

[solemn otter]

does anyone know how to make a pteryodactly server shits too hard lol.

[tight pecan]

Check your upload speed. I'd say around 100Mbps+ is recommended but it depends on the media

[shadow sundial]

yeah my isp onlt gives me 45 up

thast the max in my area

[shrewd glacier]

Main modem nat type keeps flickering between open and strict, I port forwarded Xbox port with my Xbox ip too, went on OPEN for 10 mins then went back to strict plz help

[tight pecan]

Assuming you meant upload and not down, you'd have to try transcoding down to maybe 1080p 20Mbps or lower

[shadow sundial]

hum... ok.thanks for all thehelp!!! lots ot figure out haha

[opal pagoda]

How much up tho?

[zinc fog]

Hi. I'm going to install cameras in my home. I want to keep the camera stream for about 3 months. What is the best solution for this? I have a pc with a lot of storage. Linux or windows is not a problem, just never touched it before

[shadow sundial]

i fixed it

[mystic latch]

You want to get IP cameras with RSTP, that gives you the widest compatibility for various security cam software.

Frigate is a popular free solution for this:
https://frigate.video/

[zinc fog]

I was looking at reolink cameras

Seems like they support rstp

[mystic latch]

Yea they're pretty good

[zinc fog]

🙂

Thanks. Will read up on frigate

[mystic latch]

Do you have a PoE switch? I'm guessing no, but one of those will help a lot. It'll power the camera(s) through the ethernet cable

[topaz patrol]

Whatever you do, don't get wireless cameras :)

[zinc fog]

Damn... Ethernet is going to be expensive 🤣

[mystic latch]

It's worth it in the long run.

[topaz patrol]

Not really

Wireless cameras are (usually) horrible

[zinc fog]

There's thick wood, cement etc.

[topaz patrol]

Susceptible to interference and jamming, limited bandwidth and you have to worry about batteries/solar panels

[zinc fog]

Going to have an electrician for a power outlet, because I'm going to get floodlights.

[topaz patrol]

Then you may as well have them run some cat6 while they're at it 😉

[mystic latch]

Do you have an attic? That can make getting around the denser stuff easier

[zinc fog]

Nope, it's on ground floor.

It's an old wooden house, so it's almost impossible to run new wires without making it ugly

[topaz patrol]

Wireless cameras are pretty much useless as far as I'm concerned

[mystic latch]

Are you in an urban area? My brother learned the hard way of why not to use wireless cameras. His stuff got taken over.

[topaz patrol]

Yep

[zinc fog]

Nope, I live outside the city, 2 km or so. The city has 17 000 people

[topaz patrol]

Comparable PoE cameras themselves will also be cheaper

[zinc fog]

7th largest city in the country 🤣

[topaz patrol]

Also you can use your own NVR so no cloud funny business

[zinc fog]

Yes, I want to use my own nvr

That's why I want to use my own dedicated server

[mystic latch]

The server itself isn't too hard. Any linux box can do the job with docker

[topaz patrol]

Then you'll want wired cameras 😌

[zinc fog]

Home assistant and frigate?

[topaz patrol]

They are integrated quite nicely

[mystic latch]

Yep!

[zinc fog]

Okay, nice.

[mystic latch]

Frigate's hardware page gives a helpful direction
https://docs.frigate.video/frigate/hardware

[zinc fog]

I have a pc similar to this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007170112422.html

[topaz patrol]

Just make sure you turn off any cloud stuff if you buy Dahua stuff :)

[mystic latch]

Yea for sure. It's generally best to put IP cameras on a VLAN that has internet access blocked.

[zinc fog]

wow, not buying dahua

[regal shell]

my internet gets disconnected when i run speed test on my pc. im connected via a switch. could it be a switch issue?

probably because of network load

and i also get random disconnects

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0C8H8XRYT
this is the switch. im using sfp+ 10g modules

[topaz patrol]

Remove the switch from the equation and see if the issue persists 😌

[solemn otter]

Anyone Know how to install Partkeepr. abit stumped on it tbh

[regal shell]

are trendnet switches any good and reliable?

[lunar mist]

Hey guys, I'm looking to install two 10Gb switches in my Linux server and Windows workstation. My current Wi-Fi setup is slow, so which card should I get to speed things up? My Linux server is an old i5 with 32GB DDR3 and an RX5600, and my main computer is a Ryzen 5 with 64GB DDR4. I'm doing game design and work on my main pc off the drive on the Linux PC, but it's slow to load everything. Would 10Gb switches help? Do I need to change anything, or would Samba work automatically?

[formal star]

Is anyone familiar with a reverse proxy that can handle UDP traffic reliability? I have tried ngnix stream, but I keep getting disconnected randomly with it.

[pseudo blade]

Local storage will always be superior in speed, latency and reliability. The better answer is to ensure enough local storage for your projects and have it back up/sync.

Otherwise the answer lies in ensuring fast enough storage and networking and 10 gigabit will likely help... but kinda expensive and annoying to implement. The config isn't too hard, it's the extra hardware

I've found for large files nearly anything will do > gigabit, even single hard drives and very old CPUs

[lunar mist]

Yeah I would love to just sell the old pc and buy like a super case with lots of drive bays.

But I want to see what I can make do with what I have now.

Here's the specs of the linux pc

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dyPT89

And that's the windows pc

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ww4VJy

Basically I'm just looking for a link between the two. To treat the linux pc as if it's literally a drive (or even a set of drives that I can access from the windows)

Cause right now, it's neither. I need to tediously edit a script file to share one folder in a drive. Which I have done. But the speeds... I can only get about 10mb/s

Obv, something I set up is wrong.

I think that's my upload speed because it's being sent through the wifi, as our routers in canada never get updated. Everything around me is 10mb upload, but hey for another 50 bucks I can get 15.

Either way the router is small, only enough space for one computer. So that's why on the linux subchannel they recommended a network switch.

[lunar mist]

Will this do?

Then down the road upgrade to 10gb sfp+ and buy a couple of those sfp+ cables?

[topaz patrol]

You are paying way too much for those patch cables FYI, Amazon has got to be one of the worst places to buy them lol

[lunar mist]

small town lmao

[topaz patrol]

USA?

[lunar mist]

canada

[topaz patrol]

Aha

https://www.infinitecables.com/products/cat6a-utp-10gb-ultra-thin-patch-cable-premium-fluke-patch-cable-certified-cmr-riser-rated-purple?variant=43631347073265
And these are fancy patch cables

If you want not as pretty ones that will still do 10gig fine, they can be had for like $2 for a 3ft/1m cable

[lunar mist]

This is perfect honestly thank you haha

[topaz patrol]

No worries :p

[lunar mist]

Ah shipping is 20 dollars thaat's how they get ya

[topaz patrol]

Ah, I did look at that but it must depend on the post code, L3R4Z6 was only $10

Y'all Canadians have some funky post codes lol

[lunar mist]

irk lol

will cat7 or cat8 work with these things? lol

seeing nice packs of those

[topaz patrol]

Yeah

Cat7 kinda sorta doesn't exist but it'll work

[lunar mist]

nice

https://www.amazon.ca/BAHIWOM-Ethernet-2000Mhz-Network-Internet/dp/B0C2CX4SWC/ref=sr_1_5?sr=8-5

[topaz patrol]

Those will work

Much better price :p

[lunar mist]

yeah and not too bad quality too

How about this switch? Is managed a hassle to learn? Or does it just mean like more options?

https://www.amazon.ca/YuLinca-Managed-2x10G-2-5Gigabit-Support/dp/B0CNRBJQCW/ref=sr_1_36?sr=8-36#customerReviews

[topaz patrol]

You can use a managed switch the same as a "dumb" one, except there's configurability, port status, (untagged) VLANs etc

[lunar mist]

perfect lol

thank you so much for your help btw, I'll order this stuff and see how it goes

[topaz patrol]

No worries

[frank inlet]

Do you guys have any softwares to create a planification (diagram) of creating a network they'd like to build?
For example, something like what I've attached
Not necessarily the software part, but mostly knowing which hardware is which IP, what they're linked to, etc.
Mostly wondering if there's a specific software for it, so draw.io/Excalidraw are a no-go 🙂

Feel free to create a thread to answer, would be much better I think

[topaz patrol]

Looks like they used https://draw.io

[frank inlet]

They did, but as I said, I am wondering if there specifics software for that matter, and non-specialized are a no-go

[topaz patrol]

Why do you want specific software?

[tight pecan]

Cisco Packet Tracer

[frank inlet]

I'm a bit shared with that one but I understand your point 🙂 maybe something more professional?

[tight pecan]

How is CPT not professional?

[topaz patrol]

lol

[topaz patrol]

So you wanted it automated(ish)?

[tight pecan]

It's used to design and emulate pretty big networks

[frank inlet]

There are more professional alternatives to Packet Tracer, like GNS3 or Eve-NG. Which come to think of it might actually be what I'm looking for...
CPT just fake emulate Cisco's IOS. GNS3/Eve-NG runs actual IOS images

[frank inlet]

eeeeh. Didn't thought about it. What do you have in mind? You got my interest

[topaz patrol]

Nvm I just re read your requirements

[pseudo blade]

Model vs diagram for what you've said so far.
To model a network, use a similator.
Diagram: add your extra attributes in a table, I don't know of anything that has all desired attributes by default because it really depends on what ones you care about and that'll be different.

That tool is definitely drawio/diagrams.net though

[frank inlet]

nah, excalidraw by the look of the lines

[pseudo blade]

Drawio is more exact on lines, I see it

[topaz patrol]

OP said they used draw.io in a comment

[pseudo blade]

Oh really? Well there you go. Some feature I haven't noticed then

[frank inlet]

draw.io propose such drawing?

guess we're both learning

[pseudo blade]

Doesn't matter much for utility

[topaz patrol]

Yeah, I think you can change the stroke appearance pretty easily

But they all do pretty much the same thing

[pseudo blade]

I'm not mad enough to diagram in my DHCP devices but I have done similar for networks before in drawio

...I'm currently mad about having learned that the house three doors down already has FTTP but I'm not planned until next September

[topaz patrol]

lol

[pseudo blade]

I have asked, and I will not be upgraded for any money in the interim

Work pays for my NBN but (barely) 50/20 is sad when I could have stupidly overpriced 1000/400 I don't have to pay for

[topaz patrol]

Yeah the technology choice program is not available in any areas that are planned for free upgrades

It's annoying NBN Co. stopped doing co-op technology choice program upgrades

[pseudo blade]

I'm a little tempted to go and knock on their doors and find someone who'll agree to me paying for gigabit for their house and setting up a point-to-point

[topaz patrol]

lol

Do you just have the one pair?

[pseudo blade]

Yes

[topaz patrol]

Ah

[pseudo blade]

I'm as far away from the node as I can get too

[topaz patrol]

Not that it helps with reliability, but at least you can load balance with multiple pairs

[pseudo blade]

Work won't pay for multiple connections

[topaz patrol]

You're lucky you're getting one paid for :p

[pseudo blade]

I know

Budget's US$250/mo for phone and internet

[topaz patrol]

You could get EE for that

[pseudo blade]

Which buys a lot of 1's and 0's even in this internet backwater

[pseudo blade]

Asked, no

[topaz patrol]

$0 install cost depending on how far from the FAN

[pseudo blade]

Provider won't sell it to me

[topaz patrol]

Ah damn

You've only asked one?

[pseudo blade]

AussieBB

[topaz patrol]

Well there's your problem

[pseudo blade]

Oh really?

[topaz patrol]

has certainly gone a bit down hill

[pseudo blade]

Well I did also try Telstra but their business team wouldn't give me the time of day when I was waving money in their faces for a fleet of SIMs

[topaz patrol]

Most providers would happily sign you up

Telstra are assholes

It's a tricky spot dealing with Telstra when you've got a higher than SMB spend, but not an enterprise spend

[pseudo blade]

I do wonder how most SMEs even get connected with them after that experience

Yeah there's nobody who'll talk to you at that scale

Be with them already or suffer

[topaz patrol]

Over $40k/year is where it gets tricky

[pseudo blade]

I find it gets plenty tricky well below that figure

[topaz patrol]

Too much of a hassle but not worth enough to them

https://www.swoop.com.au/business/internet-plans

Swoop will sell you EE online by the looks of it

lol their website is wordpress

[pseudo blade]

Incredible

[frank inlet]

what the hell
oh business I thought that was for individual

[pseudo blade]

12 hour SLA for outage remediation
Speeds compatible with my $80 router from 2017
$5000 connection fee if you don't go for a 36 month contract and prefer 12 months

[topaz patrol]

Sneaky

[pseudo blade]

Don't mind me but I think I'll give this one a pass

Bit over the limit they'll pay for, you see

[topaz patrol]

You must be in zone 3 so it's more expensive for you lol

[pseudo blade]

Yes

I think I'll stick with either what I have or the "convince the neighbors to let me pay for their internet and ptp it" plan

[pseudo blade]

It is but also NBN are allergic to good offerings in the consumer space

[topaz patrol]

EE is much cheaper in CBDs or Zone 1

[pseudo blade]

It's still not cheap

[topaz patrol]

However if you're in a CBD area EE rarely makes sense when you could get Telstra or Vocus fibre for much cheaper and with better CoS

[pseudo blade]

We're not the worst in the world on value for upload speed offerings but we certainly rank amongst them

[topaz patrol]

Thanks Malcom

[pseudo blade]

It's not even technology at this point, it's continuing to view upload speeds as a business offering

[topaz patrol]

To be fair anything more than 400Mbps up TC4 isn't a great idea on GPON

[pseudo blade]

Looked at how much they charge for 400mbps on GPON lately?

It's not EE pricing but it's not reasonable

[topaz patrol]

I know

But upstream speeds over 400Mbps on TC4 wouldn't work well

[pseudo blade]

It would for average upload usage

Not if you have customers on the last hop using bittorrent or whatever, but definitely the average

Like a token bucket allowing you to exceed it would be neat

[topaz patrol]

Burst speeds, like SkyMuster

[pseudo blade]

Without most of the caveats of Sky Muster

[topaz patrol]

lol

[pseudo blade]

Sharing with 32 households rather than the entire country's remote population

[topaz patrol]

People won't like that. People get mad when they do a speedtest and see 97Mbps on a 100Mbps plan

[pseudo blade]

Well I don't like 20mbps up on all standard residential plans either

[topaz patrol]

Skymuster gets too much shit, it's quite a good service

[topaz patrol]

Take it up with your local MP

[pseudo blade]

My local MP is LNP

I may as well talk to a wall

[topaz patrol]

NBN Co.'s ARPU "needs" to go up so that's not going to happen anytime soon

[pseudo blade]

The "needs" bit I have a problem with

[topaz patrol]

faster, cheaper

[pseudo blade]

Incorporating $20+ billion dollars of fuckups into your monopoly's business strategy is rather crippling for low income people

Or average people actually, you also have to pay for building and running infrastructure on top of that

[topaz patrol]

:)

Cost aside, most people really don't need/want higher upload speeds

[pseudo blade]

It's more that there's basically zero technical or financial benefit to not giving FTTP (and even FTTN) customers more for their money

Yes better switches and routers cost money but it's not that much in the scheme of things

[topaz patrol]

There is a financial benefit, they want ARPU to increase, and the only way they know how to do that is to squeeze people onto the higher priced wholesale plans

The main focus at the moment is FTTN/C2P and FW upgrades

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I guess if your only subscriber is Gina Rinehart you can increase your ARPU dramatically

Everyone else can subsist on 5G

[topaz patrol]

Remember, the end user is not NBN Co.'s customer

[pseudo blade]

I'm sorry, such big-picture thinking is beyond my ability to comprehend at this time

[topaz patrol]

lol

Buckets of money is getting poured into fixed wireless, and it's paying off

[pseudo blade]

Well it's definitely better than it was c.2018

The design for that was just stupid and its inability to address real-world requirements was immediately obvious to anyone with a diagram and a calculator

[topaz patrol]

Much much better

[pseudo blade]

I was actually getting 3mbps off a 50/20 NBN FW connection at that time

Architecture was 4 hops of customers wrapping around a town sharing a single wireless connection into the town to the actual fiber

Yeah no shit a single wireless link sucks for multiple thousand people

[topaz patrol]

Microwave backhaul is slowly getting replaced in locations were it's feasible

[pseudo blade]

If each tower had its own microwave backhaul it would have worked better than what they did

[topaz patrol]

eg. WNTD V4 w/ VLOS ~5km away from the tower

[pseudo blade]

Yeah last hop was never FW's problem

But do keep in mind those speeds are on shared airtime for a sector

Those aren't your speeds, just your efficiency for airtime use

[topaz patrol]

It has been, for towers that didn't suffer from congestion

[topaz patrol]

Of course, every product is oversubscribed

[topaz patrol]

This is on a tower which used to be congested, however after backhaul to the PoI was upgraded, smooth sailing

[pseudo blade]

It was great fun having Netflix at SD prevent you from playing multiplayer games

I ended up putting the Chromecast on a 1.5mbps throttle so I could do so

[topaz patrol]

Well it's much better now :)

[pseudo blade]

Yeah and now my job's ferrying multi-gigabyte files around for analysis

tbh it stings because I got better speeds before I moved here

[opal pagoda]

we use visio for that

[frank inlet]

sounds like a different draw.io 😄

[topaz patrol]

Keep in mind there's also the politics in relation to HFC

[opal pagoda]

microsoft flavoured draw.io but atleast you can get network devices stencils

example for cisco: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/visio-stencil-listing.html

so you can take those and click them into racks

[pseudo blade]

Not that different from FTTN's politics but definitely an Even More Fun shared architecture

Could still be way better than it is

Cable's not that much of a joke in the US

[topaz patrol]

HFC has been slated as just as good as FTTP, when it isn't

[pseudo blade]

Yeah no

[opal pagoda]

you can say it is so much better bc it is resistant to backhoes hahaha

[pseudo blade]

Not really

Backhoes win in all like-for-like scenarios

[topaz patrol]

But hey, almost all greenfield developments are FTTP now, so hooray for that

[pseudo blade]

FTTP is more resistant to copper thieves

[topaz patrol]

lol

[pseudo blade]

Not much black market demand for strands of glass and prisms

[opal pagoda]

but there is large demand for bare fiber (according to our supplier)

not black market but legit one

[pseudo blade]

I don't think your average copper thief has the skills to sell their haul to most customers of fiber optic products

For sale: 25 5-meter lengths of Some Fiber Cable™️
Ends are unterminated and were cut with hacksaw
Cash only

[clear igloo]

1000m of Not Copper
$500 obo

[pseudo blade]

That's more like it

[opal pagoda]

i saw someone selling a spool on marketplace
they were selling it per meter

[gleaming siren]

Is the asus rog rt-ac5300 good router

[silent flax]

because thieves know that it is fiber instead of copper before they cut the cable /s

[tribal sequoia]

They made us stop using fancy stencils because it makes the toplogy maps slow af for some of the ones we do with large numbers of devices on there lol

[opal pagoda]

sounds like everyone needs better computer
quick make a service request

[tribal sequoia]

nah people were using these ridiculously detailed stencils lol

[opal pagoda]

manufactuers didnt hear of svg so they make 10k x 2k png stencils

[alpine iron]

Does anyone know what the best VPN router is right now?

[peak cloak]

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/catalyst-8500-series-edge-platforms/datasheet-c78-744089.html?oid=dstetr023042

[mighty wind]

We use these for our high security environments
https://www.paloaltonetworks.com/resources/datasheets/pa-3400-series

[twin sphinx]

here’s a rack

[red gulch]

don't know if this is the right place to ask but I'll ask anyway. My ethernet connection is supposed to be 1gbps, and for the past year it has been working fine. ONT -> Router -> Apartment sata point -> My room's data point. However once in awhile the ethernet connection completely disconnects, or drops to a pathetic 11mb/s, a tenth of the expected speed. My usual speed with other people connected is 800-900mb/s. I can't tell if its an issue with the ISP, ONT, Router, or the internal network cabling of my apartment, or maybe the ethernet port on my PCs motherboard. Can anyone inform me of something I could use to pinpoint the problem? I have a laptop hooked up straight to the router using ping and there have been no failures so far.

[stoic obsidian]

Does anyone have a recommendation for a case that has decent hard drive support and a top mounted power supply? I'm building a NAS but I want it to be in a standard case as I am using my old motherboard which is an ATX board so things like the node are out of the question, also dislike the form factor of them. Anyway

I have 2 m.2 and I have 4 SSD's it will live on the floor and run basically 24/7 so no looking for aesthetics the more black box the better, also cooling is a mild concern as it's a 5900x as the CPU

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BrGQt7

This is my current list of everything I have already, I need a power supply, case and cooling solution.

[untold marsh]

Feel free to point me in the right direction if I'm wrong here, but looking at mesh wifi system at The Source . New large home but not well wired. not looking for crazy speed but just consistency. https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/clearance/clearance/netgear-nighthawk-mk63-100cns-wi-fi-6-whole-home-mesh-system---3-pack/p/108095341

They have 1 in stock at my local store for the price listed I should add

[lunar mist]

still getting slow speeds transfering lol

purchased these two, connected them both, transferring files from linux samba share pc to windows pc

not getting 2.5g speeds lol

[peak cloak]

what's your interface speed

[lunar mist]

Where do I check that?

My ISP's provided speeds?

[opal pagoda]

Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network Connections
then click on connection and you will see speed

for linux: https://serverfault.com/questions/207474/how-do-i-verify-the-speed-of-my-nic

[lunar mist]

hmmm

[clear igloo]

and what kind of disk to disk are you transferring those files to?
single HDD to HDD? SSD to SSD?
what does iperf test show between the machines?

[lunar mist]

HDD (linux) to SSD (windows11)

[clear igloo]

Also did you install the drivers on Windows for the NIC?

[opal pagoda]

you need atleast 100 Gbps

[lunar mist]

and i am not sure what iperf is.

I have not

[clear igloo]

Find and install the NIC drivers first then on the windows side

[lunar mist]

how the heck do I change that

[clear igloo]

I've seen that cause plenty of funky issues

[lunar mist]

I don't think there are drivers here for this switch

I didn't buy nic cards yet

[opal pagoda]

did you plug it in a gigabit port?

[clear igloo]

Did you install the NIC drivers for your board

[lunar mist]

they should be usually first things I install

[clear igloo]

You need a 2.5G NIC to get 2.5G negotiated speed, a switch doesn't just upgrade the port on your machines

[lunar mist]

let me check

[clear igloo]

Although gigabit is still ~120MB/s and you're well below that

[lunar mist]

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-model/

thats the board I have

[clear igloo]

Well it's only got a gigabit port

[lunar mist]

is this that situation where it's specifically meaning gigaBIT where it actually means 100mb

[clear igloo]

bits = 1 or 0
bytes = 8 bits
networking is ALWAYS in bits

except for Windows which shows bytes

and most applications because why keep things standardized

[opal pagoda]

1 gigabit = 125 MegaBytes

[lunar mist]

well either way the math ain't mathing xD if its 125mbytes/second, why am I getting 10-20

[clear igloo]

Yup, still not even halfway there

I would try the intel drivers from here:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/64404/intel-ethernet-controller-i211at/downloads.html

[lunar mist]

Nice I pulled up the exact same link earlier haha

[opal pagoda]

except in some cases for Windows which shows gibibyte/kibibyte (storage mostly)

[clear igloo]

😄

[lunar mist]

complete driver pack?

[clear igloo]

true

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/18293/intel-network-adapter-driver-for-windows-10.html
Wired Driver for 64-bit

[lunar mist]

got it, proset?

[clear igloo]

Nah

[lunar mist]

ok got it

[opal pagoda]

to test speeds between you linux server and windows use iperf

that way you can eliminate storage

[clear igloo]

Haha, was just about to say that 🙂

[lunar mist]

it just opens and immediately disappears lol

[clear igloo]

Hmmm, you can try the proset drivers or worst case point to the folder via device manager and install the drivers that way

[lunar mist]

the iperf thing

[clear igloo]

oh!

[opal pagoda]

it is a cli tool

[clear igloo]

you need to run it from command prompt

[lunar mist]

oooohh

[clear igloo]

on one side:
iperf3 -s
on the other machine:
iperf3 -c 192.168.x.x

or whatever the IP of the server side is

[opal pagoda]

on client add -P 10 for more threads

[clear igloo]

yah, you can always do -P but at gigabit you shouldn't need it

[opal pagoda]

eh i always do 10 to get true max

i mainly use it in fortigate cli but syntax is mostly same

[lunar mist]

oh wait forgot to do -p

[clear igloo]

you need to do one side on the linux machine to your windows machine as the other

[opal pagoda]

yea... that is on same machine as server

[lunar mist]

oooh

Which one did I add the -P on? the linux right?

[clear igloo]

Whichever is the client side

[clear igloo]

iperf3 -P 10 -c 192.168.7.248

or 219, whatever the IP of the linux machine is

[lunar mist]

so on the linux pc I do iperf3 -s, and on the windows pc I do iperf3 -P 10 -c 192.168.7.219?

[clear igloo]

yup

[lunar mist]

it works on windows for some reason

like whats the end goal of this thing here

all I ever do on linux is google how to fix things

anyway still slow af nothing changed

[opal pagoda]

Find root cause of your issues by elimination

[lunar mist]

I enabled something on both ends called jumbo frames

[unborn sluice]

Ok

[twin sphinx]

I am obsessed

[compact void]

Goodmornig

Is ther a way to connect to a nas whitout portforwording

[peak cloak]

Yes

Look at tailscale

[compact void]

How is that working

[peak cloak]

The white paper talks about it

Basically uses an external server to get through nat and establish a connection, then it's usually direct p2p

[compact void]

Ahh yes

[compact void]

Its working thanks

[thick minnow]

how many of you

know dell R720 servers cause im having a problem with mine thats really pissing me the fuck off

before i drop kick the pile of shit
i just bought a 10 gig network card for it
and its on the debian installer
and wont connect to my switch
i just reset the switch
the network card is brand fucking new
the same issue is with the old network card
it will not get an ip address
at all

it refuses it recognizes the new card cause in the debian installer it can see the 10gig ports

im at a loss here of what the fuck im supposed to do i need this server backup for my minecraft server

which is barely running all on the other server machine

and im just done man im working IRL and i havent got enough time to dig deep into this shit some help would really be appreciated otherwise im gonna kick the living shit outta this heaping pile of shit

as you can clearly see the bottom 2 ports are the 10gig SFP+ ports the bottom most one is my main server and there should be a 3rd one there it is literally plugged in with the lights on

what could this issue be

its not my router or my switch its not the card

ima go smoke a ciggy and sleep on it

[thick minnow]

It also does it with Ubuntu server

Fails to configure the network

If it's not the network card what else could cause this

[past mason]

would help if you listed what network card you bought, what SFP+ (if any) or DACs you're using

[past mason]

from the looks of it, your switch only supports 2 10g interfaces, I could be wrong, but going off of there only being 2 xe interfaces shown

[opal pagoda]

dusty to the max

1 year old switches btw

[waxen scroll]

bye bye warranty

[thick minnow]

It has 4 they only show when active

[thick minnow]

Dell X520

[past mason]

they should show as down, like the ge ones

is the card seen in Idrac?

and what SFP+ or DACs are you using?

[past mason]

check to make sure its not admistrativaly down

[olive pollen]

Anyone know of a good tutorial on adguard with ubound?

[tribal sequoia]

?? It only shows 2 SFP+ there? Other 2 look like 1gbe?

Maybe I missed something. Whatever.

[past mason]

I looked up the model # shown in the pictures, it indeed does show and list having 4, that's why I asked him if they were enabled, and what SFP+/DACs hes using

[tribal sequoia]

Yeah that's what I said

2 SFP+ and 2 gbe as in .. 4?

[past mason]

https://www.networkscreen.com/EX3300-24T.asp

28 (24 host ports + four 10 GbE/GbE uplink ports)

[tribal sequoia]

Thought we were talking about the single NIC there not the juniper switch

NVM

[lost lily]

lmfao i got for free 2 Brocade ICX-6450-48P switches

very happy, the office of a friend was throwing away old junk, and next to a 2U 10Base-T switch (with one 10/100 uplink!!!) there were these 2 just sitting there

[tribal hedge]

Anyone know if the Cisco Nexus N9K switches has to have paid liscensing to work? I have a Cisco N9K-C9348GC-FXP at work that is being switched out I might be able to get, but if I have to pay for liscensing I'm not even gonna bother

[opal pagoda]

It will not shut off packets like meraki would
Licenses are not enforced but are "we trust you" model and for private/ training use noone would care

N9k are louuuuudddd af tho, literally loudest piece of equipment in our DC

[tribal hedge]

Thanks for the reply, and yes I am aware, we use them as well. I have my servers and switches in a seperate room, so it's not a problem.

[thick minnow]

fs.com ones custom ends for dell and juniper

i would like to mention that it this all began i failed at setting up an LACP link with the previous 4 x gigabit card which stopped working after i tried doing that with it so i then ordered the 2X gigabit ethernet 2X 10gig SFP + card

its still doing the same thing will not get an ip at all the link shows as active on my switch but it cant get an ip all my other devices are fine its not my router its something with the server

so ive now ordered a PCIE network card for it and hopefully that works

[clear igloo]

Yup, they'll nag you at boot in the logs but otherwise it's honor based 🙂

[thick minnow]

this is with the debian installer aswell not just my install broken or something i even tried ubuntu server installer aswell

so ive ordered this and i hope it will just work

[opal pagoda]

that card is wierd af
it probably uses old refurb chip

on a new black pcb

[thick minnow]

i dont care at this point i just want my server online man

for cheap

[opal pagoda]

melanox connectx 3 cards usually just work

or 4

[thick minnow]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/115601092854?_nkw=mellanox+connectx-3&itmmeta=01J6WR2YTXWTTBWSRQ05GXNY9E&hash=item1aea5cb0f6:g:1S8AAOSwnQRmQtkg&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKnOGOs24iAT6qxo5GSB33UM%2BC%2BfvOBHj23nMMGip9gb4RO2w3wyOgedk7gVCA3kF94lMljZcXdeCaInDnYYd314rIiknAUnBcLuzGu9smj6ZZ3HVf%2BwYNXu4xHqIqVqlWqIf0zKseKWIMSEphY34clWI%2FjGtXS0VXxBer6mwpheJjr9UwtZaX81HPujCSHRkiVsfvt5fJY9ZvDZynQxYi4Ut5J4koyUNY%2B63dqVQOtbQMRp7mhtQVjajfd1WVPsIaZTgBH0ZK1PlRBU8cRl4QNmoOb5Vs7xYnRs45czqhUOmw%3D%3D|tkp%3ABFBMxO2LmLdk ?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/143922620659?_nkw=mellanox+connectx-3&epid=1055775886&itmmeta=01J6WR2YTX68V3EVATPA8EHNE4&hash=item218274e8f3:g:TMoAAOSwYhhgBw1C&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlw%2BZYIQ1h%2B%2Fuc735koKkWwfJaBit3ogQNY1O4FEW2gCIxUm1hJJVrc7Q3C7plMDbt7ca9logy%2FqR8%2FKQchaClLVmj9a7MTYn%2BnwKs5dp3VrYDWI3DcXBXDLoILuGl8NaQWOmWn3Iuvj7S14c%2FPw87T7WF4w74g%2FTllCHoMv1yaRioI4ZXuQCbKTTAJg1Lc663JUFbTejB3txB6qt5BQ2pTv3j4Z1Cco%2FKAPhpdtqRiEwKTq84wRDhX79%2BGJs6HtlU%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8Tti5i3ZA

sheesh ok

[opal pagoda]

but first wait for that amazon card to arrive

[opal pagoda]

lacp wont work on asymetric connections

only same speed connections can be "bonded"

[thick minnow]

yeah i was doing that with the previous 4 X gigabit ethernet card

and it fried something on the motherboard clearly

because with the new card specific for the server it doesnt work either

[opal pagoda]

what is config on the switch side?

[thick minnow]

i dont remember but i was using my juniper switch created a aggregated link on all 4 ethernet ports

and then was tryna configure it from the debian side

[opal pagoda]

clear config and set basic config on them with no aggregation

[thick minnow]

i already reset my switch like 3 times since then

that config is long gone

[opal pagoda]

ah

[thick minnow]

something got fried

[opal pagoda]

something wierd

[thick minnow]

pcie should work fine tho fingers crossed

[opal pagoda]

hopefully

[clear igloo]

Back to back from server port to server port does the link come up and work?

bypass the switch should at least let you know if something in between is causing problems

[mystic hollow]

Anyone use this item for wake on lan?
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802590128054.html

[mystic hollow]

@keen urchin would this item from above work?

[keen urchin]

yes, that's what I'm talking about

[mystic hollow]

Pcie is better, I assume

I hate when my usb devices wake my pc lol

[keen urchin]

no, it doesn't matter, it connects to your on switch

[mystic hollow]

So then would my case switch be useless then?

[keen urchin]

no, it goes in line so it works as well

[mystic hollow]

Nice. Now I just need a aliexpress coupon code lol

[topaz wing]

Can I get a quick sanity check please? I only know enough to be dangerous here...Looking to add some additional functionality to my network, we're stuck with a mesh network consisting of four Eero 6e pros supplied by our ISP, they are fine in terms of performance but awful for customization and advanced features and the firewall is a managed subscription if we wanted it. If I wanted to add my own firewall, and set up SPAN and a few VLANs, maybe IDS/IPS if I feel ambitious, and I already had a managed switch on hand (TP-Link TL-SG105E), could I add that and something as simple as a 4 port Protectli Vault running opnsense or similar in front of my primary eero router to achieve what I want, or is there an issue with having that between the ISP's router and modem?

Trying to get this done relatively cheap so replacing 4 existing, free eeros (don't even pay monthly for it, it's included in our internet package) with another set of high performance routers isn't ideal, and furthermore we don't have room for a proper network rack so this all has to fit behind the TV cabinet in our living room. Was looking at the V1410 specifically to pair with the managed switch I already have, I think it'll cover most of what I need and provide some room to learn and expand a bit.

[opal pagoda]

are they running custom isp specific firmware on them or same as retail units?

[topaz wing]

I would expect custom, the eero app has their ISP logo on it when I launch it and it has ISP-specific troubleshooting pages.

That said, I've been told it is not required to use their routers, if I wanted to I could replace them and return the ones they sent me.

So I don't think there's anything proprietary at the modem level

[opal pagoda]

for what you want to do you would have to put a appliance between modem and that mesh solution
check that they have a option to turn them into ap without routing on them
if that is not possible another option is turning off dhcp on them and pluging in this order:
modem>firewall>lan port of master eero

[topaz wing]

I'll have to check.

[topaz wing]

Yeah there's still a bridge mode under DHCP & NAT in network settings

[opal pagoda]

that could potentionally be used

[topaz wing]

I take it that's all that is needed? Then the protectli can handle it instead, Modem>Firewall>Managed Switch>Eeros?

[opal pagoda]

just use access vlan for interfacing with eero, i dont know if it would play nice with tagged vlan

[topaz wing]

Hmm, I'll have to try it out. Worst case I spin off a vlan with a second wifi router for what I need. Aside from some basic filtering rules, I just want the ability to separate my IoT crap and especially my security cameras from my main network. The built in eero guest network is too limited for that purpose though, it doesn't allow the devices to talk to each other, and it won't let my NAS and HA server to connect to the cameras for surveilance/automation. That, and the forced dual band SSID has me pulling my hair out at times over some of these devices that refuse to connect to the more stable 2.4ghz channel when they're just a bit too far away for 5...

At least then I'd only need to buy one wifi router instead of four, the devices in question are all pretty centralized.

From what I can gather online so far, supposedly the eero 6's allow tagged packets through but it won't manage them. The switch needs to do all the tagging. I'm not really sure how that would work with outbound traffic going to the eeros from connected devices though? Not 100% sure I understand it all if I'm honest.

[topaz wing]

I think this is the proposed design I'm looking at here?

Modem -> Firewall -> Managed Switch -> Eero 1

Assuming the Eero plays nice and passes the vlans tags transparently, I can set up 3 VLANs to properly isolate what I need while also allowing cross-communication:

VLAN10 - IoT Devices
VLAN20 - Servers/NAS
VLAN30 - PC/personal devices

I can then use the firewall to block internet access on VLAN10, and allow traffic between VLANs 10 and 20, and 20 and 30. One thing I'm not so sure about is whether to handle the VLANs with the managed switch or the firewall. I'm assuming it'd be better performance wise for the managed switch to handle the VLAN routing as it should have hardware offloading and lower latency (might be a factor if a lot of traffic is hitting the servers/nas), but if I do that I believe I lose any ability to manage firewall rules within the VLANs themselves, not to mention added redundancies in general, so maybe it's better to let the firewall do all of it and just keep the managed switch purely for port mirroring.

[tight pecan]

The design looks good. I'd let the switch handle VLAN routing if possible since it's built for that. I'd also save the firewall's processing power just to make sure your incoming WAN traffic stays clean

Realistically it prob won't take that much processing power, but if you have a switch with VLAN tagging capabilities, I'd just use that

[topaz wing]

That is what I think I'll try first. I'm just not sure how well a $25 managed switch will handle the vlans. It supposedly is capable of up to 32 VLANs, so we'll see

[tight pecan]

It'll probably handle 3 as long as you're not pushing too much bandwidth lol

[topaz wing]

Hmm, I might wind up pushing that lol. There are times I can hit the local network pretty hard, between the camera streams and backup tasks all going to the NAS, and of course let's not forget the actual internet usage which is at gigabit speeds. Might be better to upgrade that managed switch to 2.5g at some point. But I think it'll get me started at least. The good thing is I do 1 2.5g port on each of the eeros so I could potentially pass more traffic through at least locally.

I already have the managed switch so it's not like I have much to lose trying it out.

[lost lily]

I've been looking for a while now, but i can't really find anything that checks all the boxes (and i haven't looked at used stuff so far): i need to find a 1U box or something that can do SFP+ line speed routing, ideally running opnsense that doesn't break the bank (i.e. <300€) (and doesn't trip my breaker)

the N100 boxes are cool but they can't do line speed routing not because of CPU, but because they use 2012 intel NICs and don't use the PCIe lanes effectively

[drowsy fossil]

get one of the n100 boxes with a connectx 3 or something?

[tight pecan]

You can just replace the NIC with a connectx3 if you have a slot that supports it

[lost lily]

yes that is a good idea, however none of those boxes expose a PCIe x8 slot

given they have 9 lanes total

i guess there's this one

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005006660443343.html

looks kinda weird

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/N100DC-ITX/ this would be great but it only exposes 2 lanes in the x4 slot, which is definitely not enough for a connectx-3

[lost lily]

can a connectx-3 work with just 2 gen3 lanes? i don't think so

that's 16Gbps, so obviously not, i need x4

https://www.dfrobot.com/product-2822.html i think this would work

with the compute module being €139

yes i think that's it

[compact void]

Goodmornig

Can sombody tel me how to make a SQL server working on a nas?

[spiral monolith]

G’day people!
I've just started a CCNA course and was wondering if I could buy a lab for sale using 3 switches
2600(x1)
2500(x2)
Could I use this as a lab kit?

[tight pecan]

It will work just fine. PCIe 3.0 spec supports 2GB/s just from 2 lanes alone

The issue is whether it can supply enough power for the NIC, which it should but I'm not certain

Unless you're looking to do full duplex 10Gbps more often than not

I'd say 8 Gbps full duplex isn't too bad for such a power limited machine, though maybe you could get some second hand mini PCs that support a PCIe gen 3.0x4 slot.

[pseudo blade]

SQLite. Tada!

Seriously you probably don't want anything fancier if you're unwilling to dedicate an actual machine to it and it's perfectly adequate for any self-serve use-case.

Hell it's good for more than just that

[opal pagoda]

Yea you can use whatever but that is a little old
You don't have to buy physical appliances, packet tracer is good enough

[pseudo blade]

2500, 2600? Sure they're not routers?
If they are I personally think they're old enough to be useless practically (some of the 2500 series is 90's metal) and emulation options (CML, GNS) or Packet Tracer saves you money and space and the latter's free to you with netacad access and will get you through most of what the CCNA wants.

Unfortunately Cisco gear worth using is a bit more spendy, which is why I haven't touched Cisco kit since I did my CCNA bar the garbage RV-series stuff I don't think is even good for SMB.

[compact void]

Its a sql 12 database

[clear igloo]

You'd be better off using your hand to simulate and draw packets than those ancient boxes from the early 2000s
They're routers and packet tracer, CML, GNS3, etc. are all far better

[unborn sluice]

^
Fr, packer tracer is so helpful.
Came a long way.

I know you want to have physical hardware. But maybe do that for your homelab.
For certification go for the simulations

[pseudo blade]

"SQL 12" is what RDBMS exactly? Microsoft? Oracle? Postgres?

Maybe do some basic research and you'll be able to ask better questions (even find your own answers)

[lost lily]

yeah i meant to actually do that, but like it's okay

[lost lily]

the LattePanda Mu Compute Module has a full gen3 x4 slot, so it can run an x520 intel dual SFP+ NIC just fine, even with regards to power consumption

one side has a DAC to my core switch, the other side has a transceiver from the ISP with their fiber

no ISP boxes in my homelab

[pseudo blade]

Tbh how often will you be saturating 10gbps up and down simultaneously to notice?

[lost lily]

not that much but like if I'm designing a system why not

also the LattePanda is cheaper too

~210€ for compute module, carrier board and the NIC on ebay

i shove a random disk in there and there's the router

with a 6W TDP (but that can increase up to like 30 or something if i want to)

[pseudo blade]

One thing to note... are you expecting more than just NAT out of it? PPPoE for instance?

[lost lily]

IPSec

IPSec, NAT, some light IP blocks, etc. DNS is handled by another box that handles DNS and NS

because I'll be self hosting my domain there (and maybe BGP too if my ISP is nice to me)

BGP handled by the router obviously

[lost lily]

apart from IPSec it's all light stuff, like for example i block the entire facebook ASN and a few more, but it's not anything heavy

[lost lily]

imagine if you could actually use 120km SFP+ transceivers to make a line of sight 10Gbps link across like 40km of air. it would be such a cool universe but unfortunately it's not possible in this reality. sad.

[spiral monolith]

Yeah, very true.
I get it. I do appreciate the help, mate :).

[thorn delta]

WiFi 6e PTP links work better than I expected. This guy we installed at work this week is pushing just about 900 Mbps at 8.5km away, and I think there's a still room for improvement on the alignment

[topaz patrol]

FSO exists. Literally what you’re describing

[thorn delta]

https://x.company/projects/taara/

FSO stuff is interesting, but snow/fog/smoke takes them down, so to get closer to 100% uptime you need some kind of backup microwave link in parallel

[topaz patrol]

There’s a reason they’ve gone out of fashion

[lost lily]

yes thats why i said it's impractical

it'd only work with good weather

[humble sorrel]

I've been downloading files at 20MB/s for years, my ethernet port on my motherboard died last week. I just installed a cheap TP-Link ethernet card and now I am downloading at 100MB/s. Is it normal for a dedicated port to outperform a B450 mobo?

160 megabit vs 800 megabit

[ebon wasp]

Yes that's possible. It depends on which components they used for the dedicated port

However 20MB/s is an odd speed

[long thistle]

yeah sounds like some cheap realtek or i225

[burnt dagger]

would using a vps to protect my home internet for hosting a Minecraft public server be good ?

looking at ovhcloud server

[ebon wasp]

VPS can be more expensive than a dedicated MC server, but yes you don't need to open up your own hoem internet

[low pond]

There are many services that offer it, it might be cheaper but do check

like tcpshield and whatnot

[karmic marten]

Hey guys. Does this module have a web iface or ssh? If so, can it be accessed without rooting it? I do not have a soldering iron https://www.ebay.com/itm/225725619187

[karmic marten]

Look at my bio and look at the ddos services provider. You can then use a a GRE tunnel to protect it

[south blade]

Hey, how do I get an old wifi adapter working that can't seem to get installed? I don't know if it's the computer or my current WiFi adapter but it's been disconnecting very frequently since last night and these old as heck WiFi adapters I had in a drawer won't install. It says WF748-CUI on them, I tried the 'find windows update' since Windows couldn't install them but it's not finding anything.

I downloaded this WF748-CUI_ZD1211B.zip which says it's for serial number beginning with Z6, which mine is, it's old, says for Vista...so I set it to Vista compatibility mode and I start the program and it pops up the icon in the task bar and disappears.

[south blade]

Somethings gotta be wrong with this wifi adapter, 802.11g...that's not from the router is it? That's what the adapter is connecting as I would think

[tardy phoenix]

Good morning all, I am looking to get a new wireless USB wifi adapter for my PC. Can I please have some recommendations on ones I can buy from Best Buy as I know nothing about them and don't really know what to look for.
I found this one, would this be a good choice?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/netgear-nighthawk-axe3000-tri-band-wi-fi-6e-usb-3-0-adapter-black/6520471.p?acampID=0&cmp=RMX&loc=emedia&ref=198&refdomain=bestproductsreviews.com&skuId=6520471

[harsh elbow]

Anyone have any experience finding hikvision/amcrest/dahua in British Columbia/Canada?

[shadow sundial]

is TP-Link still the best Powerline ethernetadaptor aorund ?

[old scroll]

Honestly unless you need high download speeds, just get whatever is cheap and pretty highly reviewed

And if you do, just get it hard lined

[hasty root]

in my opinion powerline is a last ditch effort if you have no other choice (running a wire isnt as daunting as it seems) the TP-Link AV2000 are ones that ive personally used

[shadow sundial]

cool thanks

[vernal rain]

Hi guys, what's the max real world speed I can get on a Wifi6 mesh wifi network with a 10gbps connection?

I'm currently on Google nest wifi with a 1gbps connection, and considering the hardware Id need to get upgraded speeds on a 10gbps connection.

2 cases:

1. Pure mesh network, where one router gets the ethernet connection from the provider, and rest of the household is meshed with this.

2. I run an ethernet backhaul to most other units from the main router.

Apart from thick walls and other factors, if a mesh wifi is in the room - will I get GBPS speed over the air?

P.s: I've tried googling, and been unable to get the answer I was looking for!

[topaz patrol]

You won’t get more than 1gig real world on most wifi 6 gear (ignoring backhaul)

[old scroll]

well, on 1

if you had a chain of them connected to seperate stuff (like a business run of ap's) you theoretically could get to 10gbps, but thats not on 1 device thats on 10s of devices at least

but in all honesty, 10gbps is really only useful on a pc with a hardline connection

and you generally need a network card todo that

that actually supports 10 gig speed

im getting old

deleted pointless ramble messages

[clear igloo]

Does it play fine on another media player locally?

[blissful thorn]

Does anyone know of any guides or have recommendations on the best way to do this?

I'm looking to service desktop systems at my "home", and I'd like to isolate any tested systems from my "home network"

[tight pecan]

VLANs. Lots of videos on YT, though I don't really have any recommended vids

[peak cloak]

Don't even need vlans

[blissful thorn]

Yeah I wasn't sure if I'd need to order other routers what.

I currently have a router from my ISP (Fibe) then I have a unmonitored network switch run to my work area.

Just looking to avoid leaving the home network exposed to remote access or unexpected viruses etc.

[meager ginkgo]

Do you have coax? MoCA would be the better option.

Can grab a two pack of new 2.5Gig adapters for $60 off eBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175732781258

[peak cloak]

does your home router support static routes?

what I would do is setup a virtual router on your server box, and have all your VMs behind that virtual router. Then setup firewall rules to restrict it from any NEW connections to your home subnet

I did this with vyos, but that's cli only so it can be a little indimidating

webui is in development

[shadow sundial]

idk if i fixed it or not..( this is on my plex server btw).. basically i will start the first episode of Game of thrones. it will play for exactly 1min57sec then the screen freezes but the timer keeps running. after waiting over 5 mins it will then blink and the show starts again. every other episode take 5-7 mins to load in. this is the only show i have an issue with on my plex server. i have over 4 tb of data. and it is being stored on and drawn from my Synology NAS. every thing is up to date and there is no internet issues. i removed the files form the file destination and then re cscanned the library to make sure it couldnt see them. then moved it back.... still same issues. truly confused

[opal pagoda]

firewalls are way to go and they are designed for this, opnsense and pfsense are popular options for home users

[twin sphinx]

🫡

[topaz patrol]

You my friend, have given Ubiquiti way too much money

[compact void]

I can't connect 2 PCs to one sql server

[topaz patrol]

Yes you can?

[compact void]

How

[topaz patrol]

MySQL, for example, has a max of 4,294,967,295 concurrent connections lol

[topaz patrol]

The concurrent connection limit is 10?

[compact void]

I dont know

[topaz patrol]

It’s says right there in the picture you sent

[compact void]

Strange

How to fix it?

[glad bridge]

nahh i can just understand him

[topaz patrol]

There is no need for a UBNT PDU

[glad bridge]

yeah true

but when its for a company i can sort of understand it but not completely

[topaz patrol]

Nope

UBNT is barely suited to SME with some of the stuff they make lmao

[shadow sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-opinion-gif-25791527

[pseudo blade]

Why not? Smart networking stuff is neat and more affordable options with onprem management are better than less for everyone (drives down cost and increases feature competition)

I don't use UBNT and can still see the appeal

Worst that can happen is nobody buys them

[waxen scroll]

cisco is like $25k a switch on the non-small office stuff 💁

then you have to add support costs

@clear igloo UBNT quietly pulled their datacenter products

[pseudo blade]

Certainly glad to have other options (also their small office stuff is just the shit other vendors sell but 4x the price, or lobotimised so much I wouldn't dream of touching it at a price point I could do better at)

[pseudo blade]

Looks like they dipped their toes in and went no further, pulled them years ago by looks

My guess is they were expecting big Cisco shops to toss their gear for UBNT, which uh... didn't materialise for possibly obvious reasons

Pretty certain "frequently updated" "(other people's) cloud" and "budget" are concepts that repel large DC owners :P

[waxen scroll]

I actually was going to use them at an F500 company

[pseudo blade]

Oh?

[waxen scroll]

but because they didnt release the leaf I waited to test them

they just abandoned it all instead of releasing the leaf

[pseudo blade]

So the other project stakeholders were interested?

[waxen scroll]

UBNT would be great for out of band, which for me is a huge network and hard to swallow using cisco

[pseudo blade]

So you'd have stuck with Cisco for your actual core

[waxen scroll]

yeah

[pseudo blade]

Interesting

Yeah the slightly lower stakes stuff it's more palatable

[waxen scroll]

my OOB networks are enough to make something like a $5 mil quote from cisco

[pseudo blade]

Shame as it'd be nice to have one management platform for the lot

[waxen scroll]

very tough for upper management types to swallow since its basically a management network that doesnt see a ton of use

[pseudo blade]

Surely the leaf is overkill for a management network anyways

[waxen scroll]

it is

however the trend is to now use them for everything, even campus access

[pseudo blade]

What did you end up with, out of curiosity?

[waxen scroll]

well we chose arista but we are going through contracting and havent deployed anything

[pseudo blade]

Fair

[waxen scroll]

arista wants like $2-3m for the same quote

[pseudo blade]

How many switches? (Roughly)

[waxen scroll]

before contract negos, so it will be even less

442

[pseudo blade]

$6/7k a switch

That's still a fair whack of money but I guess if the scenario warrants it

[waxen scroll]

I want to say the cloud management and support is ~3yr, so we will need to pay more when that renews

[pseudo blade]

Oof

[waxen scroll]

cisco is in the same boat, theres stuff to renew after 3

[pseudo blade]

Idk I get why they pay for trusted brands but paying that much when needing comparatively little is wild to me

[waxen scroll]

we're financial so any network problem is a big problem

[pseudo blade]

Beats Cisco wanting borderline small car pricing per switch I guess

[waxen scroll]

I do wonder if cisco wants to be a network company anymore

All of a sudden its AI this and that, then 10,000 jobs lost

feels like broadcom, just keep firing people, jacking up license and support costs

I know @rocky badge loves aruba but I had a pitch on their datacenter offerings a few months ago and

one of the most dull pitches I have had

[rocky badge]

I do?

[clear igloo]

cut engineers, software quality goes down, sales dip, go back to step 1
😄

[pseudo blade]

Broadcom's devourer isn't too fussed with new IP, they just run niche stuff into the ground for maximum profit

Look at what happened to PLX chips (once rather affordable PCIe switch chips) and vmware (once affordable hypervisor)

[pseudo blade]

Oh I'm sure the executives want an AI company like every other publicly traded business presently in existence

[opal pagoda]

That is just "retail" price, real price is 80 or more % off

I hate that pricing model from bottom of my heart

Just say what the switch costs and dont bs me abt the price

[clear igloo]

Yup, 100%

variable discounts for everyone!!

[opal pagoda]

and then there is licensing
cisco and forti are worst offenders

[clear igloo]

I hear you need licenses to phone home 😄
We have the deal for you!!

At least with most of Cisco products/features (excluding Meraki) there isn't any negative impact to being out of compliance. There are definitely exceptions though, usually in the security space afaik
I can't comment on Forti licenses though

[opal pagoda]

i am lucky i only use fortigates with fortianalyzer and fortimanager

one of the most frustrating things is that fortigates can run iperf3 client and server but server is only compatabile with other fortigates

client can be used with any iperf3 server tho

[clear igloo]

well obviously, lol

[old scroll]

Cisco just follows where the money is, they got investors and most businesses now do cloud computing (or atleast more than what used to be) I would say pivoting away would make sense from an investor standpoint and datacenter/ai solutions make more sense than anything else for them.

They will still sell networking gear but it makes sense to get into a new market to make investor capital go up.

[old scroll]

6/7k a switch is usually a bargin

2014 when I studied Ccna it was like 10k a switch

Brand new obviously

[topaz patrol]

It’s mostly a joke

Much better than a datto pdu

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud-yelling-cloud-angry-gif-12558964

[shadow sundial]

figured out the problem with my Game of thrones not playing on my Plex. aprprently yhrt efiles were corrupted in soome way. retireved files form a differente source and it runs perfectly fine now

[plucky marlin]

I've got an EE 4G Mini Hub temporarily whilst Openreach pull their finger out and actually install my new FTTP connection.

I want to bridge the connection from its Wifi to the rest of my network via a Windows bridged network device. Strangely, though, if I just connect directly to the hub, I get about 20mb down and 15 up. If I set up the bridge from the Wifi to the ethernet port on my laptop, my speed suddenly drops to <1mbps down, but I still get 15 up. Any ideas? And should this actually work?

Secondary option is that I do have OPNSense and could try and set something up there, but I'm not familiar with how to configure that...

[opal pagoda]

What do you want to achieve?
Do you have another wan connection to OPNsense?

[topaz patrol]

99% of SOHO routers I’ve seen will support using a 4g modem in the USB port

[plucky marlin]

The mini hub is limited to 20 devices, and I have more. But I also use a different IP range and want everything to connect and work as if I had my normal internet still - if possible.

I currently have a WAN connection, and will hopefully have a new WAN connection by tonight, but it's no guarantee and I may end up being without internet.

My ISP have provided the mini hub so I can at least connect some devices, but if I could just use it as a modem with my OPNSense router, that would be great.

[opal pagoda]

Just buy a better lte router as this one doesn't even have a wired Ethernet port
Currently you can get this quite cheap but check that bands are compatible with your providers

https://store-us.gl-inet.com/collections/certified-refurbished-product/products/refurbished-spitz-gl-x750-ec25-af-smart-wifi-dual-band-router-4g-lte

[strong ivy]

Which is the best for the price?
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Adapter-Antennas-WAP3-SAE-Supports/dp/B0CJ9G9Y4K
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Adapter-Antennas-Wireless-10-11-10-15/dp/B0B1PZXNVZ
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5YPK9L1

[opal pagoda]

tp link

[celest viper]

Upgrading to WiFi 7 gonna be a huge upgrade over the ISP's wifi 5 Router.

[blissful thorn]

Sorry to revive this 3 days later I was away.

I don't mind buying another router if needed. I'll have to read more about it since it's outside my specialties.

To clarify it it helps, it would a regular home network with phone/laptops/desktops/etc. Then my switch connects systems I've built/or in the case where I'm forced or needing to connect an outside customer system to the internet.

Not sure if what you're suggesting would work for that.

[blissful thorn]

I'll have to read about it - I was ideally trying to avoid having to pay for another internet plan or a hotspot plan etc.

But if it's also like +1-2K in networking setup to make it work, I'll just avoid connecting customer systems to the network. Main things aside from convenience (for not virus infected rigs) is I can test ethernet ports/drivers and WIFI performance.

Wasn't sure if there is a monitored switch with firewall or a better router where I can create a seperate guest network and apply protections to isolate it from a direct connection to my main home network. Subnets-vlan etc idk

[opal pagoda]

cheap and easy option would be to buy something like this
https://store.gl-inet.com/collections/all-products/products/opal-gigabit-wireless-pocket-sized-openwrt-ipv6-sft1200
then you can vpn out of your own network to minimally interact with it
config: https://protonvpn.com/support/flint-gl-ax1800-router
end result would be isolated network that will vpn straight to your vpn provider and only interact with your gateway (home router) for ip transit

[strong ivy]

Ok, thank you

[blissful thorn]

Alright that sounds interesting - would I be able to connect it to the fibe router via ethernet then run the VPN off the Opal router and connect a switch/systems to that Opal router?

Am I understanding that right?

[strong ivy]

Are Wi-Fi cards backwards compatible?

[topaz patrol]

Correct

[topaz patrol]

“Do not remove from premises”

Not that’d even work at another address

[minor flower]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/arris-surfboard-s33-32-x-8-docsis-3-1-multi-gig-cable-modem-with-2-5-gbps-ethernet-port-white/6425831.p?skuId=6425831

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-zenwifi-xt9-ax7800-wi-fi-6-tri-band-mesh-router-white/6530182.p?skuId=6530182

Are these things compatible or did the Best Buy guy mess up?

Cause isp whitelist the modem and it shows up as network SSI ID but shows no Internet connection

If some could help me

[fierce jacinth]

Just found two packs of 100 rack studs on clearout at my workplace.

200 for $54

[fierce jacinth]

ayo its the classic NBNCO FTTC Network Connection Device

those fuckers let off a lot of heat

[topaz patrol]

smh breaking the NBN Co. brand guidelines :p

[fierce jacinth]

lmk if you figure out how to extract the credentials from one of the FTTP ones

[topaz patrol]

Yeah no :)

[fierce jacinth]

i'm on a mission to obtain fibre to my desk

[topaz patrol]

You won't be able to.

[fierce jacinth]

and the last piece of copper is between the ntd and my desk

if i get the creds off it i can copy them to a GPON SFP+ stick

[topaz patrol]

No, you can't :)

[fierce jacinth]

you can, i've seen it done by others, NBNCO support gpon sticks but don't offer them for residential connections

[topaz patrol]

That's for smart places. Completely different

The security is quite robust with GPON

If you really want SFP+ pay for EE

[topaz patrol]

i've seen it done by others
Show me a working connection at a premises.
Even if you could get it to work, what you'd be doing is illegal :)

[opal pagoda]

https://youtu.be/Hi7JMTojT-4

[topaz patrol]

The nbn access network operates quite differently, compared to that ISP I'd assume

[fierce jacinth]

tbf the GPON gear is exclusively layer 2 so there isn't a whole lot of room for it to be different

[fierce jacinth]

oh yeah its absolutely illegal, i want a gpon stick so i'm going to keep pestering nbnco

[topaz patrol]

That'll do nothing :)

If it's not in the WBA, they won't do it.

[fierce jacinth]

yeah :(

i don't care that much and even if i did manage to copy the credentials its a managed part of their network so they'll know something is up

[topaz patrol]

You'd be unable to provision a service without the NTD

[fierce jacinth]

yeah i'm just pointing out that its layer 2 ergo the fttp box/sticks don't have ip addresses at all

this sort of fanagling has been done a lot in other countries, i think that video is an example of it, its possible but very hard to do and they'll almost definitely notice

so not worth it whatsoever

[topaz patrol]

It just wouldn't work :)

[fierce jacinth]

why not? the box has the gpon credentials stored on it (albeit probably in encrypted flash) so if you were to somehow provision a stick with those same creds and clone the mac address it would work

from what i can tell nbnco doesn't do anything proprietary for management beyond what gpon offers natively

cause under the branded box its just a nokia gpon ntd

[topaz patrol]

Which is custom-ish

[fierce jacinth]

yeah, its also the same gear used in other countries where this has been done

[topaz patrol]

RSPs have quite a lot of control over the NTD

[fierce jacinth]

yeah i get that, so while it may be able to connect briefly if you managed to clone it if they're using rotating keys it will break whenever the next time that happens is

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i've got bigger fish to fry atm anyway and i don't want to piss off the fibre monopoly

although there is another fibre company who's expansion is about to reach my house so who knows

[topaz patrol]

No.

You don't know shit about fuck :p
I've had this conversation so many times with people.
It's not possible (without NBN Co. onboard)

[fierce jacinth]

how so, what's the broken link

[topaz patrol]

What's the broken link?

You wouldn't be able to provision a service, and you'd have trouble even getting an existing service to work

[fierce jacinth]

i didn't say it would be easy, i just said that all the information needed to mimic the residential ONT is contained on the ONT and could be transferred to another ONT if you could find a way to do it (if they have half a braincell they will be taking measures like encrypting flash and using HMAC tokens or similar but you can't take anything for granted in Australian telecommunications)

by definition the nokia ONT they provide to residential and the GPON sticks they provide to their smart places program or whatever they call it have to be compatible with each other since gpon is a passive system anyway

if i'm wrong i'm wrong but i don't see what implementation detail other than the ones i mentioned would prevent you from doing this

there would be no need to provision a new service because its the same credentials

[topaz patrol]

Yes but you would not have a UNI-SFP provisioned for a premise connection.

[fierce jacinth]

UNI?

[topaz patrol]

Until your RSP conducts a loopback test and trys troubleshooting your connection, eventually figuring out what's up

[topaz patrol]

User network interface, UNI-SFP is the name for the alcatel lucent SFP module you're talking about that's used to deliver tc4 for smart places

[fierce jacinth]

ahh yep

they'd obviously figure it out unless you somehow fucked with the stick to make it report its mac address and other relevant characteristics as those of the original ONT (and now we're in the realm of fucking with the firmware of the sfp module, which may not be writeable etc)

it was never going to be practical or remotely worth the risk if possible

[topaz patrol]

Why would you want to eliminate the NTD anyway?

[fierce jacinth]

either way the perfomance of the sfp module is identical to that of the ONT so the only point of the exercise would be cosmetic ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fierce jacinth]

getting rid of the last stretch of copper between my desk and the internet 😆
Massive wast of money and time but fibre to the desk is funny

[topaz patrol]

That last stretch of copper is not worth eliminating for a best effort service with peak speeds of 1000Mbps

[fierce jacinth]

like i said before the sfp module and ont have near identical performance so it would purely be a cosmetic thing

with absolutely no real value other than being amusing

[topaz patrol]

And illegal :)

[fierce jacinth]

yeah that too

tldr notworth it waste of time and money + illegal

[topaz patrol]

Spend the couple hundred bucks on an EE connection instead :p

Or Telstra TID or AAPT fast fibre I guess

[fierce jacinth]

Yeah I thought about going EE, at least from where I live even if you have gigabit nothing will give you more than like 10M tops

A speedtest at home and at uni gives the same download speed (to launtel) but something like a steam download from the nearest server won't go past 100M at home but will happy ramp to 900+ at uni, which I imagine is just bandwidth priority and maybe some of how aarnet's interlink between campuses doesn't share fibre with the other ISPs (could also be colocation, Idk where the steam Melbourne servers are)

[topaz patrol]

You don't need EE :)

Low CoS EE has very little advantage over TC4 anyway

[opal pagoda]

You could change steam download region, maybe it will solve your issue

[kind cypress]

hello dear ltt comunity im having a bit of a trouble with my networking and would apreciate if an intellectually expierienced one would offer their advice for a bit
My situation:192.168.0.0/22 subnet
this is where windows client ( black terminal ) as well as 192.168.2.30 and 192.168.2.31 are
GW 192.168.1.1
Routed to the 10.1.1.0/24 network via 192.168.1.2 ( opnsense )
had no problem over the last year since i set it up
No it appears that fore some majestical reason 192.168.2.30 specifically is not reachable from the 10.1.1.0/24 network
And for some reason only that one specifically

[opal pagoda]

Do you have any firewall rules on that opnsense box?

[kind cypress]

Nope no firewall rules I'll just reboot everything go to sleep and hope it magically fixes itself because im tired and probably just forgot something really stupid

[blissful thorn]

Thanks I'll look into this more

[lunar mist]

can someone help me? My linux computer won't connect to the internet anymore lol

I don't know if its the switch i bought because it doesn't have a yellow light on it

ah the yellow light shows up on the other computer, it's a linux thing probably I'll go to the other channel

[pseudo blade]

Drivers, cables or hardware problems
I guess dead switchports are technically possible too