networking

[somber bear]

Okay, thats how i was hoping it would work for large files like video and games.

[worthy stag]

this high speed stuff is usually meant for many clients, not single fast clients

did you manage to set the MTU?

[somber bear]

I set the MTU to 9k based on what google said, and i get 9.9gbps on iperf3

[worthy stag]

try iperf(2) with the -P option

[somber bear]

I heard these cards realistically do like 25gbps, I honestly don't even need the speed to be that fast but they where 60 bucks including the cable. cheaper than alot of 10g eth stuff

trying iperf2 now

[worthy stag]

whats the output of ethtool <intf> ?

I have a feeling they are only linking at 10Gbps

[worthy stag]

yeah so

they are linked at 10Gbps 😂

[somber bear]

I tried forcing 40 and it did not work before, I cant figure out the proper way to get them to switch over

[worthy stag]

I know the cx3s are a bit more difficult to deal with because of driver support

[somber bear]

I appreciate the time btw

[worthy stag]

this is one of the reasons I got cx4s btw

they are plug and play everywhere

[somber bear]

Makes sense, the software suite nvidia has is not very refined from what i can see

[worthy stag]

well the cx3s are quite old

even the 4s are old

try ethtool -s eth2 speed 40000 autoneg off

[somber bear]

7s are out, 3s are ancient

[worthy stag]

oh wait

you can actually even do 56000

their proprietary speed lol

[somber bear]

is 56 just another jump in speed, or is it different in functionality

[worthy stag]

speed jump

maybe try 40 first though

just noticed 56 isnt under "advertised speeds"

56G in this format only works in the mellanox ecosystem

[worthy stag]

set it on both sides

[worthy stag]

hm

you said its a DAC?

[somber bear]

yeah

[worthy stag]

why does it say Port: FIBRE lol

[somber bear]

i have zero clue tbj

[worthy stag]

I get this Port: Direct Attach Copper

what DAC is it even

[somber bear]

it contradicts itself

I am not certain what brand it is, i got it in an ebay bundle, i can link the bundle but idk if that is allowed here

[worthy stag]

yeah idk

probably fine

but also, probably either your DAC is busted or driver support is not there

weird that one lane works though

[somber bear]

Yeah thats what has been tripping me up, since one lane works like a charm\

[worthy stag]

if you really want to do 40gig properly, you should get a switch for it too

something like the SX6036

can probably get them for like $300

or go full 100G ;)

1-2k for a used SN2700 right now

[somber bear]

100G would be great, gotta cut down that ingest time for video once every 3 moths from like 30 mins to 30 seconds

[worthy stag]

hahaha

its totally overkill, but I love it

[somber bear]

100g is just realistic enough cost wise it can be justified, unlike 400

[worthy stag]

in a few years 400G will be kinda affordable, just like 100G right now

heck, even 200G is not craaazy right now

[somber bear]

gotta love the crazy depreciation of server gear

[worthy stag]

its because these companies are upgrading like crazy

and you can pick up their shit for insane prices

you just dont get the stuff that companies value: support

[somber bear]

I think my gameplan is to screw with drivers, then maybe another cable

Thats why I stopped in here, support!

[worthy stag]

if you have more planned clients, it might make sense to get a 40G switch

you can flip it again for a similar price once you are done

those are already at the tail end of the hockey stick

[somber bear]

Realistically, ill have the server, my pc and in the future another storage server. A switch with 3 or 4 40g+ and a bunch of 2.5 would be the dream

[silent flax]

but also mostly pointless. No one is going to do all NVMe high capacity NAS at home which would require those speeds, even sequential PCIe speed is going to be fine with 100 gigabit network

[worthy stag]

yeah ik

but at the point where 400G is affordable, all the 100G stuff is going to be completely EOL and not supported anymore in drivers

[silent flax]

and for your typical spinning rust, even 10 gigabit is an overkill

2.5G is about the right speed for spinners

[worthy stag]

cx3 is going out the door right now

[somber bear]

10g is about all i can realistically justify a purpose for now, anything else is for the fun of it

[worthy stag]

cx4 will be next soon

hopefully not too soon

[opal pagoda]

someone did a little trolling within dac flash

[silent flax]

i put 10G in my server so it can serve multiple 2.5G clients at once, that's about what i can justify 🙂

[somber bear]

Yeah absolutely

[somber bear]

Can that dac be my problem?

[worthy stag]

yeah

[opal pagoda]

it was probably attempt of flashing dac cable to work with that particular nic
and someone selected wrong firmware

[somber bear]

I forgot about the dac being programmed at all

[opal pagoda]

you can get melanox programmed cables from fs.com

but i dont belive melanox cards care too much about brand of cables

[worthy stag]

can you can get those fs.com DACs for much better prices on ebay

[opal pagoda]

we use cisco cables and transcievers everywhere and it all works

[somber bear]

cisco on ebay or mellanox on fs seem to be around that 24-26 mark for 0.5m

[worthy stag]

I think I spend $20 per QSFP28 fs.com DAC on ebay

[opal pagoda]

why qsfp28?

[worthy stag]

for 100G

[opal pagoda]

do you have 100g cards

[worthy stag]

yes

[opal pagoda]

well ok then

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324232999874
16$ for original melanox cable

[somber bear]

free shipping too

[opal pagoda]

for me not so much free

[somber bear]

International shipping is quite expensive

[worthy stag]

are you in europe?

[opal pagoda]

yea that is why i dont order stuff from us

[silent flax]

i mean i spent some amount on networking, but still:
X540-T2 for 25 euros
8x2.5 + 1x10 switch + 10GBe SFP+ RJ45 DAC for 98 euros
4x2.5 + 2x10 & 8x2.5 + 1x10 switches for total of 76 euros
one more 8x2.5 + 1x10 switch for 48 euros

That is a total expense of 247 euros for networking gear except the 2.5Gbe NICs for my various other computers.

But then 247 euros would barely get me a single 8x10Gbe switch, which would cover only one corner of my house, so... 😄

[worthy stag]

unfortunately a lot of enterprise stuff is so much cheaper there that it still makes sense

[opal pagoda]

eh
it is about the same

but stuff like mini pc-s are so cheap on us ebay

[worthy stag]

these are the DACs I bought https://www.ebay.com/itm/125549953332

had a friend visiting from the US so it fit well

and its under the legal carrying limit so all good there 👀

[somber bear]

250 is still way less than a ubi switch would be

[opal pagoda]

what is the limit?

[worthy stag]

$450 iirc

(per person)

[opal pagoda]

noted.

[worthy stag]

but you can't split a single $900 item between two people unfortunately

i mean you can carry more than $450 in goods, you just pay import tax on anything over the limit

but thats only personal travel

if you ship it, theres no lower limit afaik (so you always pay import)

[somber bear]

Is there anything thats more expensive in the us when it comes to computers and networking?

[worthy stag]

i dont think so

[opal pagoda]

is there a diffrence between personal and business travel limits?

[worthy stag]

uhhhh I think that $450 carry allowance is only personal

you wouldnt be carrying stuff like that for business reasons anyways

its a good question

I think businesses dont get any leeway

[opal pagoda]

probably doesent apply for personal items that you would carry, that would go in the 450$

[somber bear]

Heres a good question, if im ordering one cable, is it worth getting a second and bonding? I have never bonded two ports before

[worthy stag]

a business wont really be sending goods with private individuals on commercial flight though

normally they will just use a shipping service

[worthy stag]

are you realistically going to max the one cable?

[opal pagoda]

its simple, just make a portchanel with lacp link aggregation

all links must be same speed doe

[somber bear]

theoretically i should be able to

[worthy stag]

are you talking about the 40G cable

[somber bear]

yes

gen 4x4 nvme, realistically i doubt ill see the 7400 or whatever is on the packages

[worthy stag]

in your position, i'd be happy if I get the single 40G connection to work 😂

but yeah go for it, if you want to bond them

[somber bear]

loool id be ecstatic to get the 40 working

[opal pagoda]

idk we sometimes carry small stuff like transcievers
but if you look at price of them from cisco you overshoot that limit in 1-2 transcievers

[worthy stag]

you carry that stuff internationally?

[opal pagoda]

well it is inside eea

[worthy stag]

then you dont have a problem

its only when you cross a trade boundary

within the EU its chill

[somber bear]

travel between countries is alot more chill when US is not involved it seems

[worthy stag]

jesus why is my link so slow all of a sudden ._.

after all this talk I went to go test my stuff

I think I broke something

[opal pagoda]

us joining eu when?

[somber bear]

Lol US can't even stay joined to itself

I tried to update this card with MST, and mst cant even see the card now

[worthy stag]

okay wtf... my throughput decreases when I increase my MTU

the switch has MTU 9216 enabled

something is being weird, this used to work fine

[somber bear]

The game of life right there

so, yesterday it didnt give me this issue, but today if i go mst start, it then unloads on its own immediately . if i try to run status it just says they are not started yet

[worthy stag]

ayo 😂

[somber bear]

Getting beat by a x3

[worthy stag]

getting better...

and it beats the single lane speed

[somber bear]

Thats much better

[opal pagoda]

are you running infiniband mode or ethernet mode?

[worthy stag]

ethernet

my switch doesnt do infiniband unfortunately

[opal pagoda]

it is going to a switch?

[worthy stag]

well through a switch, yeah

[opal pagoda]

cisco or something else?

[worthy stag]

but I was hitting 99.9Gbps at one point no problem...

SN2700

[somber bear]

you too are at a quarter of your intended speed

[worthy stag]

there is something extremely weird happening with these MTUs

[somber bear]

my light googling led me to find 9000 being the recommended size for large pages

[opal pagoda]

what does the switch side say about that link?

[worthy stag]

its linked at 100G

and mtu 9216 on the switch

but when I increase the MTU on the client I get very strange results

[opal pagoda]

how are you testing the speed?

[worthy stag]

iperf2 with multiple threads

[opal pagoda]

from where to where?

[worthy stag]

two servers on the same switch

even tried with a third

i mean, with enough threads I hit the link speed

[opal pagoda]

maybe other link is at fault

[worthy stag]

the ethernet frames are being fragmented somewhere and i dont know why

doesnt make sense that MTU 1500 does better than 9k

I think it may just be time to restart some of these

and update

[opal pagoda]

melanox switches are suprisingly cheap on ebay, is there a catch with them? (licensing)

[worthy stag]

not really

just a lot of supply, so thats why

very power efficient too

50W realistic idle

I saw an SN3700 (200G QSFP56) for $1800 on ebay

[opal pagoda]

are terminal commands simmilar to cisco?

[worthy stag]

yeah im using onyx, which is very similar to cisco from what i've heard

havent used cisco CLI myself

also has a nice web UI, not that you should use it so much 👀

[opal pagoda]

i use cisco cli exclusivly at work

[worthy stag]

well, onyx should feel quite familiar then

once you log in, you do

$ enable
$ config terminal

you have a bunch of show commands

int eth 1/1 for example to select an interface

shutdown and no shutdown to disable/enable

module-type qsfp-split-4 to set split mode

etc

[opal pagoda]

yea looks really simmilar to cisco cli

[worthy stag]

and you have nice config management

you first apply your changes but they dont get saved until you run a save command

so if you fuck something up, just unplug and it reverts to the last saved config

[opal pagoda]

yea same as cisco, nothing gets saved until wr mem command is issued

[worthy stag]

yep

gonna head off now, if you have any questions about the SN2700 later you can shoot me a message if I miss it here

[rocky badge]

rollback timer 😉

[prime hill]

NixOS has that, too. It's called NixOS.

[sly compass]

That's not really possible, also heat isn't a issue. But power consumption sucks ofc

[worthy stag]

is your stuff in a server rack?

[worthy stag]

why isn't it possible?

[sly compass]

hehe if you call a old rusty metal pins a rack yea sure.
Its not possible because incoming wan is rj45 10gbe and then all my cables is built in cat6/cat6a. Have to rebuild the walls

Possible could drag a fiber through it if able to pull the old cat6 cable

But that lot of work for nothing

[worthy stag]

would probably be a better long-term solution, but yeah its a project

could be fun tho :)

something im thinking of trying at my place

[worthy stag]

yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about nixos from friends and online. Definitely thinking of switching to it

will at least try it out soon

[worthy stag]

how many of the servers/clients are in the same area vs have to be connected through a wall cable?

[sly compass]

Well my router is runing proxmox and opnsense. From there it goes around the house (multi rj45 ports) and get 10gbe. Then opnsense also has lan for a switch in the clouset with poe. Doors, cameras and lights. Lots of poe. Then AP is spread out. Also using POE

[worthy stag]

i see

yeah rj45 10gb is going to be a sensible solution (at least for now)

I assumed something more like a TOR deployment

[sly compass]

What i could of done is run sfp to the switch. But not sure if it had it or not

I run lots of sfp and started to run some fiber at work. But its still lots of cat cables

[worthy stag]

so depending on how expensive power is

might make sense

where I live, 1W 24/7 costs about 3 euros per year

so 2-5W per port means 4-10W per 10 gig connection => 12-30 euros per year PER CABLE

20 of those can pretty well cost you 600 euros per year

[prime hill]

I would recommend starting with someone else's config and tweaking it a bit, and then building your own. I made the mistake of starting from scratch.

So now I'm consistently lacking things that should just be there.

[worthy stag]

are there good starter "vanilla" configs online?

most of my friends customize their stuff so heavily and I don't really want to inherit that

[prime hill]

There are plenty.

If you're looking to manage routers, you may have to build that yourself. But it's not too hard.

[worthy stag]

nah, just a normal desktop config with KDE 6 + wayland

[prime hill]

By the way, that's super doable. Choose whatever host in your network every device is guaranteed to be able to connect to as the "blessed" mirror. It doesn't have to be managed by NixOS (and probably shouldn't until you set up some sort of bootstrapped rollback system; you don't want to lose connection to that host)

[prime hill]

Oh, yeah. There are plenty. Search GitHub or something

By the way, you can declare your KDE or whatever configuration inside Nix with home-manager

[silent flax]

does 1kWh cost over 30 cents there ?

[worthy stag]

yeah, more actually

i've seen 40

[silent flax]

cause 1W 24/7 is 8.76kWh per year, so to get to 3 euros you need to have over 0.34e/kWh rate

[worthy stag]

yep

just found a graph online

i didnt see the prices as bad as 58

but this is approximately how bad it is

[silent flax]

ah yeah, the benefits of dropping nuclear and going coal /s 😄

[worthy stag]

yeah, pretty stupid to be honest

against nuclear, but not against importing nuclear energy from france

gotta love german politics

[silent flax]

ours is 0,159886€/kWh including 20% VAT + fixed monthly fee of 7.3 euros per "delivery point" (apartment/house)

[worthy stag]

damn...

country?

[silent flax]

Slovakia

but then 24/7 powered cable connections are rather limited (ISP router -> my router, my router -> switches and one of switches -> server); most devices are usually powered off, i think then the power usage is not as significant. Plus nearly all are just 1/2.5G connections, which are also lower in power

that is with the most typical tarrif, there are other ones, but they are for other use cases

like DD1 has higher kWh rate (0.178125e/kWh), but the fixed cost is only 3.384 euros per month.
DD3 has different rates for night (0.126886e/kWh) and day (0.167566e/kWh) and even higher monthly fixed cost (10.5114 euros).
The rest are for electric heating or solar households

[foggy rivet]

In Michigan mine is ~$0.17/Kwh

[worthy stag]

lol, just came across this: https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/s/4TulgljvG8

[sly compass]

Wtf has to be 0.3eu/kwh that’s the price here most expensive month of the year. That’s expensive from what it was. Today it’s like 0.05eu/kwh

[modern cairn]

i got a great productivity laptop last year, it is a Lenovo legion 5 pro with an AMD ryzen 7745hx and a 4070. however ive been facing an issue of sh*t wifi because of its realtek 8852CE wifi 6e adapter and have been wanting to upgrade. does anyone know hwo good intel wifi chips work with AMD laptops? i know intel makes the best wifi cards around but dont know about the interoperability between them
i was looking at the Intel Wi-Fi 7 BE200 chip. its wifi 7(i dont need wifi 7 but somehow its cheaper than even the wifi 6/6e cards i can find on amazon like Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211)
the only reason im hesitant to buy is that im not sure if the wifi card will behave well with an AMD cpu, ive heard stories of them being firmware blocked and stuff. im not entirely sure of that hence wanted to be confirm

[carmine crescent]

This turned into a power channel

[opal pagoda]

Power efficiency of datacenter equipment is very important

And cost of power directly affects operating costs

[sly compass]

And that’s why datacenters are built where electricity is cheap and reliable

[sly compass]

Since we talking max 10 ports it’s actually not even worth the extra cost to run new cables, or even buy different hardware.

[carmine crescent]

thats very very true

[silent flax]

that is not really power consumption issue and more like "we put a power hungry chip on board and put the smallest heatsink possible on it, cooling is not our problem" situation.

It's just bad design, just like the "heatsink" on a 1030 2GB GDDR5 i got 🙂

and yes, this is Gigabite as well, they just don't give a damn about cooling things properly

i mean look at that orange heatsink, that is not even the half of worst PCI-E based X540-T2 heatsinks

[blazing karma]

Anyone knows why some clients in VLAN network takes a while to actually communicate and get internet?

For some reason some devices on my network with PPSK/VLAN or LAN/VLAN takes like 5-10 minutes before an internet connection is established

And sometimes the internet just straight up doesn’t work

And I have to connect to the regular non VLAN SSID to establish internet

[vernal oak]

I thought of something in my data thing that I hadn't previously thought of.

My solution for truly protecting the data, was to have 2 drives that were stored, in a pelican case, in a safe, that were updated periodically.

What I failed to realize is that standard pelican foam could fry a drive.

I'd have to get specific antistatic foam

[pseudo blade]

It's really not a big concern

[light harbor]

what’s the best deal you guys got on your WiFi plan?

I’ll go first 10 dollars a month for wifi

[topaz cosmos]

hey guys, my network always struggles with p2p connections. when im trying to play games where a person is hosting the server/lobby it fails 99% of the time

is there some kind of solution i could do that involves a vpn maybe? like maybe if the network sees it's from a server and doesn't see past the vpn it would work?

i'm on an apartment network so i can't go into the router settings or anything like that, but the error it gives me when i try to connect to people is "nat traversal process failed"

but i can play online games with dedicated servers no issue

[low pond]

Maybe UPnP is disabled, that's why it's complaining that

[lilac shoal]

If I'm experiencing bufferbloat even while connected via ethernet directly to my modem, bypassing my router, does that mean it's out of my control?

[clear igloo]

what model modem?

[lilac shoal]

Nighthawk CM2000

[clear igloo]

ok, not a DOCSIS modem with a Puma 6 or Puma 7 chipset then so yes it's likely outside your control then

[lilac shoal]

I guess it's not too bad

just trying to figure out why certain games feel super laggy despite relatively low average ping

[clear igloo]

Yah, and that's generally latency with download or upload going at the same time, without it it's much less (23ms in your case which is great)

It's possibly down to the game server and your ISP having sub-optimal paths to their data center, especially if it's inconsistent across various games

[lilac shoal]

Yeah it's weird, mostly noticeable in valorant or CS

Feels like 200ms but says 25

[clear igloo]

ouch, yah that's not good

Is this to all servers in CS or just certain ones or?

[lilac shoal]

Been off and on trying to figure out what's wrong for years but coming to the conclusion I just gotta move

[clear igloo]

I can't remember how CS is hosted these days if you can even select servers

[lilac shoal]

Had no issues when I lived 30 miles away and had fios instead of xfinity

[clear igloo]

yah, fiber tends to be much better too for latency

[lilac shoal]

New York is bad for me, virginia is fine, both report 20ms average

[clear igloo]

interesting

[lilac shoal]

Chicago is decent for me, Georgia is unplayable, both report 35ms

In cs2 you can't select specific servers, just set a maxping

[clear igloo]

got it

[lilac shoal]

So if i set 25 it's a coinflip if I get NY or VA

In csgo changing my client side interp variables helped a ton but those settings are gone in cs2

[calm vapor]

Hello People, i am currently trying to get a cat7 cabel upwards from my router to my bedroom but the head of the cable is a little to big so i cant go trough what can i do ? I cant really get the head off the cabel and the put i back on

[lilac shoal]

Georgia servers are consistently extremely laggy for me in any game despite net graphs saying 35ms, no loss, no real jitter

[clear igloo]

Yah, I suspect something is messed up with xfinity =/

[opal pagoda]

I would snip the head off and reterminate it with another rj45 plug or a keystone

[clear igloo]

or embiggen the hole if you can just a bit

[opal pagoda]

Keystone might be easier as it is less finecky

[opal pagoda]

Yea true

[opal pagoda]

Maybe you are perfect candidate for that lag reducing vpn

[lilac shoal]

I've tried a couple of em, no real change

[fierce jay]

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[carmine crescent]

No but I'll learn

[fierce jay]

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[polar timber]

I have a problem with OPNsense: when my ISP modem restarts/public IP on it changes, OPNsense loses connection and can't find the new wan IP automatically. I can get a connection after I manually use the reload button on "interfaces -> overview", and then it finds the new wan/public IP. How could I make it to get the new IP automatically?

[fierce jay]

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[polar timber]

My IP changes like every week or something like that, I dont know if I can get static IP from my ISP. I just used the restarting as example because every restart the IP changes 😄

[opal pagoda]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[fierce jay]

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[opal pagoda]

...which is just lazy. If you're not willing to do the work to solve your problem, why should we?

[fierce jay]

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[thorn delta]

There's a reason why "don't ask to ask" as a site exists, and it's not to be rude. If you throw the question out there, you're way more likely to get help. If someone knows opensense, it doesn't mean they know about the feature you're having problems with. If you're trying to setup wireguard or something like that, it generally works the same on non-opensense routers/ect.

[opal pagoda]

Whut the hell is going on

[thorn delta]

You are the one

[opal pagoda]

Looks like tracert fixed itself

[polar timber]

I shortened it to just 60 seconds and it gets the new IP pretty fast, but do these really short lease times on WAN affect the usage of network? I did some short testing and it didn't seem to affect anything.

[fierce jay]

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[polar timber]

The external/public IP changing is an ISP thing for sure.

I have ZTE 5G CPE MC7010 modem from ISP (so 5G) that is in bridged mode. Its connected to computer that's running Proxmod and OPNsense inside it. I have Intel I350-T2 NIC on it.

[fierce jay]

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[polar timber]

Yeah I know, but I would like to make OPNsense to renew the WAN DHCP lease when the monitor detects that its offline so it could get the new IP.

[fierce jay]

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[polar timber]

I made a script now that runs every minute that pings 8.8.8.8 and then 8.8.4.4 and if those fail, it just reloads the WAN and it gets the new IP. I think that will work good enought 😄

[fierce jay]

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[polar timber]

😄 soon getting fiber, hopefully I dont need that then anymore

but thank you for helping 🙂👍

[proud rain]

sup people, anyone familiar with hosting ubiquiti network app themselves? I got some questions regarding only using Ubi APs without a Ubi GW or controller/feature locks etc

[thick minnow]

Hello

Uhh who knows how to make NextCloud that is on truenas scale can be accessible outside of home network

I use the truenas scale and download the NextCloud plugin in it. But now I need help on how to use the NextCloud outside the network and I'm not expecting to use port forwarding since I already have vm on truenas with docker ( portainer and nginx ) also on duckdns.. help really needed.

[thick minnow]

hey uhhhhh im shopping for a wifi access point.
i don't really know where to start
I need detailed logging so i can keep track of my roommates usage and charge them properly (one of them is an unemployed layabout who currently uses 65 - 70% of the bandwidth each month which is impressive since i easily use 1 - 2 TB a month myself. how an unemployed person manages to pay for all the downloads required to outpace me is beyond me, but i'm tired of paying the whole bill myslef annd intend to collect usage based "dues" since it's fucking expensive.
I'd also prefer one with an app for quick/ out of home managment
I also need more than one lan port
this last one is a want not a need but id prefer something classy and stealth like my current google wifi instead of some agro gamery thing with a huge footprint

any suggestions?

price range is under 200 usd

[peak cloak]

look into tp-link omaga

[pseudo blade]

Omada

[peak cloak]

ah yeah

[fallow wing]

Ok guys
Lil bit of help here
The internet hasn't been that useful on this :
I want to run proxmox as my server's hypervisor, I'd like to eventually get a dual SFP+ NIC (maybe even earlier than the other possible upgrades) but I can't decide which controller card I want
What I know : avoid Intel's X770, Realtek basically has no controller for that class of card and Broadcom doesn't have enough documented in use review on forums
Any advice on that subject ?

[opal pagoda]

mellanox connectx-3?

[fallow wing]

I can find that on eBay I assume ?

Issue is, price

Depends on how much it is

[opal pagoda]

30$?

[opal pagoda]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296209480459
even better card, its sfp28
but since it is dell you might have to mask off one pcie pin

[fallow wing]

Wait what ? It's that cheap ?
And it won't have any of the issues reported for Intel's and broadcom's NICs ?

[fallow wing]

I just need SFP+

[opal pagoda]

melanox stuff has always been good
they were bought by nvidia so support is on nvidia site

just dont get connectx 2 or older as that is old stuff and drivers arent incuded in distros anymore

[fallow wing]

Hmmmm

@opal pagoda
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/144452987375?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=709-127639-2357-0&ssspo=jRMDQW45RBO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=89toELdLTMa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

60€ with shipping

Think I'll have issues if it's HP made ?

Because I'm building a fully custom machine

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/296264204667?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=709-127639-2357-0&ssspo=CqAyXu7xRpy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=89toELdLTMa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

95€ with shipping
I might consider that one if I can afford it, provided it doesn't causes any issues to plug DACs in there to link with SFP+ ports on the other end

[opal pagoda]

https://youtu.be/bEd3NbJFBc8
vendor specific cards often spew out stuff onto smbus which can cause problems but you can disable that with tape

[fallow wing]

It's for a proxmox install, will I encounter issues if I plug that in there ?

[opal pagoda]

I personally havent used them but i was looking at them earlier today

[fallow wing]

Bruh, 1st party cards in both connectx3 and connectx4 are the same price

About 90-100€

@opal pagoda but, for X3 and X4, the drivers should be preinstalled in linux distros, yeah ?

Or at least, will it automatically recognize the new part and auto download the drivers ?

[silent flax]

ewwwww

[cunning lion]

sighs this is normal for the other side of my house even with a mesh extender between me and the router

[patent plume]

Hello friends... I have a problem with my home network because the walls are very thick and when I connect a device nearby nothing happens, but since I enter one of the rooms, the signal is lost or disconnected... What can you recommend to fix this problem? I was planning to make a mesh, but the signal is not going to help me.

[cunning lion]

Wired is pretty much your only option I would say

Also I saw a first today the line that shows speed actually went backwards on the upload test

[patent plume]

But i can still using some extenders for the wifi?

And connect a switch for some devices that really needs ethernet

[drowsy fossil]

if you are getting nothing at all, you need to wire in a wifi device, and your wifi needs to support wired backhaul

[cunning lion]

Something like a ubiquity setup sounds like it maybe needed in your situation @patent plume

[primal forge]

Back Story: I think my original ISP (from at least 1.5 years ago) shipped me a duplicate internet modem and EERO wifi extenders. When i canceled services, I shipped back all the equipment in use, and successfully closed my account. and now I somehow still have some equipment. I'm moving, and I signed up for a new ISP. I told the new ISP I have my own modem.

Question: is there any possibility where "my" modem "notifies/pings" the old ISP or something?

[west vortex]

Not unless they have their own custom firmware on it, and even then... I doubt they care. Maybe it's compatible with OpenWRT and you can flash that on it and never have to worry again.

[primal forge]

Thanks. I'll look into OpenWRT.

it's a somewhat major ISP, so id bet they do.. but I'm not sure.

[sly lark]

Anyone know how i can connect a network extender or something to my wifi and have the extender output a wep connection from my router's wpa/wpa2 connection?

[sly lark]

@ me answer please

[torn perch]

Hi, I have a brand new usw 48 poe connected to the UXG pro gateway. I don’t see the option to adopt, The switch is showing as another device.

I need help adopting it. I cannot ssh with root/ubnt but says access denied. Tried resetting the switch, same issue. Any help is appreciated

[torn perch]

All good, used ubnt/ubnt and used set-inform to adopt

[latent hare]

Ok so Wifi mesh units what are the best units, im running unifi at present but its a pain the the arse to manage
Im looking at the TPlink EAP655-Wall
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/tplink-eap655wall-ax3000-wall-plate-wifi-6-access-point-ac68518

[opal pagoda]

You want poe powered mesh device?

[lost lily]

okay, say i have a QSFP28 port, and i use a breakout cable to get 4 SFP28 ports

2 of them will be used at 25Gbps speeds, while the other 2 will be connected to a downlink switch

that has 2 SFP+ ports

would that work?

[latent hare]

Yeah I have wired the house and I'm already running a 24 port GB POE switch

[opal pagoda]

Then you dont want or need mesh functionality, you just need 802.11r

[clear igloo]

No, you cannot (afaik) downspeed breakout ports like that
They're 25gb only in this case

[lost lily]

hmm that'll be an issue then

[clear igloo]

You would need a QSFP (40g) breakout for 10g

[lost lily]

because as far as i know (which is not much), QSFP ports are just four SFP ports in a trenchcoat (and the same for SFP+, 28, 56, etc)

[clear igloo]

Correct, they're four lanes but they're fixed speeds

So breakout is taking those lanes and making them individual interfaces
There are a select few optics which can do mixed rate but not many

[lost lily]

okay, so that may be a problem, because i already have the downlink switch

[clear igloo]

and it's always an x or y situation with those even

[lost lily]

yeah yeah

[clear igloo]

How many QSFP ports do you have available?

You could drop in a second 40g optic and breakout that for 10g

[lost lily]

i was planning to get a CRS504-4XQ-IN

which is probably very overkill

[distant grotto]

How many ports does your HBA have? And which HBA are you using?

[lost lily]

HBA? you mean for storage?

[distant grotto]

HBA aka nic

Or are you trying to breakout the switch ports not a machine

[lost lily]

oh, i was gonna plug them into connectx 4 sfp28

on all the machines, they're fairly cheap

and the downlink switch will mainly be used for random crap

i wanna hardwire as many IoT/crap devices as i can

[distant grotto]

Ok this makes sense, bleh yeah I run something similar with old 40gb gear but 10gb breakouts actually work. 25gb switch links aren’t really common

[lost lily]

and its a juniper ex3300 we already have, my gf got it on ebay for 80 bucks a few years back

the 48 port

[distant grotto]

Oh it is a 10gb uplink yeah grosssss. 4 QSFP28 ports just isn’t enough. I think you can find discarded mellanox ethernet switches for cheap these days because the entire connectx-4 generation has a hardware defect that makes it unsuitable for extended enterprise use

[lost lily]

ohh

well 4 QSFP28 ports is plenty for our homelab ahahah

like the NICs are super cheap, and they're what i was gonna use anyway

i actually plan to build an opnsense router with one of these

[distant grotto]

Yeah they have a hardware buffer defect and drop packets like a sieve

[lost lily]

i do have 25Gbps service to my house, but i heard peering is horrible

and besides, i'm not paying that much

symmetrical 10Gbps is only 30€/mo

compared to gigabit at 25€/mo

and i'm not using the ISP trash, i'll just chuck the transceiver in my router, so to future proof i'll make an SFP28 router since it should fallback to SFP+ anyway

[opal pagoda]

hba is host bus adapter and not a network interface card
why do you think this is same

[distant grotto]

Brain broken after years of exotic networks. We refer to all add in cards as HBAs because of weird legacy reasons

Well probably because it identifies things as a replaceable part where as nic tends to refer to the board embedded stuff so that breaking means you have to swap the whole box

[opal pagoda]

i see how hba could be confused with nic as FC use sfp modules

[distant grotto]

FC is still a NIC :^)

Same with SAS

But you also have HBAs that provide breakout NUMA topologies which are again sort of a network though you stretch the definition a bit.

One of the older machines I had had 2 HBAs that split the RX/TX parts of the network stack physically. I guess those are also technically NICs

[opal pagoda]

storage area networks are wierd stuff

[lost lily]

also, like i don't really need QSFP28, essentially all the ports would be split into SFP28

it's just that the switch is really efficient and quiet

like if i got an old mellanox switch on ebay, i don't want my server room to become an airport

because it's absolutely not insulated

[opal pagoda]

there is nothing stopping you from moding diffrent fans in it

[lost lily]

i guess so, yeah

but then it's gotta be like pretty cheap, because thats all added costs

what the hell thats 500 bucks

okay i'll eat my words

[opal pagoda]

i wouldnt get one maxed out with qsfp ports

[lost lily]

okay, there is a LOT of QSFP+ stuff for really cheap

stuff like this

but i'm kinda icky and want SFP28

[distant grotto]

FDR infiniband wont work like you want

[lost lily]

yeah that too

i assume i need EDR

[opal pagoda]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324743370816

one thing
they are loud

prolly the loudest thing in my dc

[lost lily]

yeah 1200 bucks is out of my league

[opal pagoda]

doesent help that there are 2 of em

[lost lily]

like 7-800 bucks of the original idea (CRS504-4XQ-IN) is the max max i'm willing to spend

[opal pagoda]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335291161581
4x sfp28 2x qsfp28

and bunch of gigabit ethernet ports

nxos is a bit diffrent from typical cisco ios but it is fine

[lost lily]

why are ciscos so cheap

[opal pagoda]

eol soon™️

it isnt yet but i expect end of sale soon

[distant grotto]

You need Ethernet. Infiniband is not what you want and these switches are not interchangeable

[lost lily]

oh i didnt even pay attention to that

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo multicast is like 15% of my network lol

[clear igloo]

Needs more broadcast

[rocky badge]

and this is with igmp snooping

so not all of the multicast is hitting my machine

[boreal elm]

so I was looking in the documentation of FRP on github https://github.com/fatedier/frp and it looks like port ranges aren't a thing, anyone know if there is something similar to FRP with port ranges???

[waxen scroll]

better hope its licensed

[twin iron]

While this isn’t full on network nerd wizardry it is jank enough that maybe even Linus would appreciate it

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge what about anycast

[twin iron]

Check out how my work network is setup the issue is that the IT guys are all just family members who barely know how to install windows

It works but crashes constantly and is a jumbled mess

Luckily I just cook lol

[waxen scroll]

Ugh

At least there's zipties

Should be Velcro though

[twin iron]

lol the bare minimum

you cant really tell but im almost certain that there are patchpanels in the upper right where all the blue goes to

but there are two patch panels and I think one switch although can't confirm the switch

[opal pagoda]

yea also power consumption of 150-200w 👽

[clear igloo]

Honor based licence bb 😄
(for home stuff, lol)

[blazing karma]

anyone here knows why printer is not pingable cross VLANs?

currently have a canon e470 on vlan 40 (iot vlan) but weirdly enough i cant ping it cross VLAN

but other devices on different vlans all will work and pingable

gateway is pingable, and i can ping it within the same vlan

but cross VLAN is not except gateway and other devices connected via PPSK

[tribal ether]

what happens if I don't use EEC memory for a nas

[unborn sluice]

then your NAS wont have EEC

whatever that means

[waxen scroll]

That was fast

[uncut pendant]

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo but muh required license callhome

[clear igloo]

Call who? 😛

[waxen scroll]

Muh $25k per switch license

Those switches need to use a license server, I don't think you can just apply a license and be good. That's what they make us do anyway

[clear igloo]

They still support pak licenses afaik

but that's a huge pita to manage individually

[waxen scroll]

Which I'm not sure a cheap eBay switch is going to have

[clear igloo]

But then you get log messages that it's honor based 😦

[waxen scroll]

[clear igloo]

Yup, NXOS is all honor based still. You get log messages at bootup if you don't have a valid license and that's about it

I've got a couple 9508s still without licenses 10 years later 😄

[waxen scroll]

I need to get off ACI

My auditor of all people was making fun of how hard networking got with ACI

[clear igloo]

Yah, auditors are the big issue with licenses, lol

[waxen scroll]

He was confused how the hell to audit us because he's used to nxos

No, PCI

They are trying to prove that you're actually following your own standards

[clear igloo]

yah

[waxen scroll]

When I started talking about slow GUI actions and JSON being the alternative he was like

It makes me laugh that for every change I have to consider if GUI or writing JSON is faster

They're both slow until you have to do more than 10 actions

[opal pagoda]

that is one big switch

[opal pagoda]

you have to have some kind of route between vlans if you want to access it

[thick minnow]

how do we feel about synology home wifi routers?

it's between https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/WRX560
and killing my bank account in the uniFI ecosystem

[distant grotto]

Pretty sure they’ve had a bunch of security issues in the past

[digital tartan]

hasn't every brand tho?

[distant grotto]

Opnsense is a “brand” that sells hardware

Retvrn to BSD

[thick minnow]

scary, but like also dlink 92000 nas devices with hardcoded backdoor explotable with simple http get req
so like who can you trust security wise?

i don't trust linksys / cisco
dlink

[distant grotto]

OpenBSD and yourself

[thick minnow]

so roll my own gateway and get a "dumb" ap for it?
that sounds like more work and money than i currently want to invest
id like to do it at some point, but i'd need to build a small pc for gateway/firewall bits and buy an ap and then learn the ins and outs of managing it
rn i just NEED a replacement for my ancient google wifi that can't meet the speeds im paying for and doesn't have the managment and logging capabilities i need to isolate and bill my flatmates
idk ill look into synology's security issues before i buy

[oblique zinc]

looks cool

better than sky

where u have to watch yt in 144p

[tribal ether]

i was looking for a gpu that can do encoding for jellyfin is this a good option https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vrYRsY/asrock-low-profile-arc-a380-6-gb-video-card-a380-lp-6g

[tribal ether]

are any of these on an apu

[amber lark]

Quick sync is any Intel cpu with integrated graphics

Nvenc is any nvidia gpu that's modern

I think the AMF is amds onboard gpu encoder

Idk about the last one

[tribal ether]

thank you, how does this build look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/34QYCd

Its for storage, jellyfin, minecraft, and home assistant

might have more things for, i'm not sure yet, haven't had a nas before

[kind field]

It's Intel's hardware encoder/decoder API that they made for GMA originally, years before QuickSync, which is dedicated to their hardware only unlike VA-API.

[amber lark]

thanks!

[kind field]

No prob, and for any further referencing of it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Acceleration_API

There ya go.

[proven terrace]

Hello, if i needed a recommendation for some cheap Hardware to run a minecraft server would i ask that here?

[thick minnow]

id start with an intel cpu i think most newer ones have qsv built in which will be great for jellyfin and handbrake
an arc gpu might be helpful too but try without and see if it's a needed expense
it seems to me(an idiot) that intel's encode / decode asics are better than nvidia and amd

those harddrives are expensive as hecc but a good choice from what i've been hearing (even though i don't trust a seagate one bit) and using optane is a very good choice imo

[thick minnow]

Is it important to have a second internet connection when you are going to set up a few servers in your house that will be accessed from outside the house?

The home one is abit inconsistent

0.1mb is how fast it is

[wanton garnet]

I'm having a very strange problem with my Internet connection that I can't figure out for the life of me. My mobo ethernet allways used to work fine with windows 10, but after I wiped the os, and tried running Linux for a server the Internet just didn't work. It detected the ethernet cable but it said no internet acces. So I switched back to windows 10 and I'm now having the exact same problem. It's detecting the home network to some small extent because i was able to run crafty (a minecraft server remote managment software) and connect to it from another conputer on the network but it was very slow and bearly worked. I tried using a sperate ethernet adapter and wifi adapter and it worked fined so it's just the motherboard eathernet port that's having these issues. I have also tried looking for and installing drivers, even though when I first installed windows it worked without needing me to look for any drivers for it. So I'm completely lost now and have no idea what to do so I would very greatly appreciate any advice

[thick minnow]

Maybe an old driver was used originally and never updated or something?

Not exactly sure as all I use is prebuilts and don’t change hardware or software a lot

[tribal ether]

with the current case (which I think is pretty lol) I only with have one PCI slot so arc isn't much of a choice so I'll have to change cases because of the network adapter. I'll look into Intel but I personally never used an Intel CPU before

and the hard drives are one of the cheapest 20tb currently

[blazing karma]

how do i do that

im still kinda bad at understanding static routes

and also anyone know if ps5 is bad with vlans? i cant place my brothers ps5 behind vlan without it losing internet connection

[opal pagoda]

first you need to know that vlans are layer 2 concepts essentially isolating networks while sharing some common connections (trunks), this is done by taging the packet. it is common practise to not use vlan 1 as that is default port vlan. vlan 1 is tipically black holed. in your case lets say you have pc on vlan 100, ps5 on vlan 110, printer on vlan 40.
uplink on your managed switch should be set to trunk and have those vlans allowed

[tribal ether]

I have learned that you should probably use eec memory, and no motherboard that size supports eec and other features I need, so I have to get a bigger case, anyone know any nas cases that actually look good?

[waxen scroll]

You need to determine if it assigned you an IP, gateway and DNS servers. Could be that DHCP is not working.

[tribal ether]

maybe the jonsbo N4 will work?

[opal pagoda]

second you need to know how to subnet. for your network i would recommend that you use 10.0.0.0/8 for your whole network.
reserve second octet for fun things outside your network that may be joined to your network with site to site vpn.
third octet is where you should subnet your vlans. example: use 10.0.100.0/24 for pc, 10.0.110.0/24 for ps5, 10.0.40.0/24 for iot
those subnets will have to be assigned to vlans. enable dhcp on that too as setting up static ip on each device is pain

Third: firewall rules - there are 2 types, edge and zone, zone is communication between vlans and edge is access to the internet, you can either do alot here or do little to nothing all depending on your usecase.

[tribal ether]

the case isnt on pcpartpicker so i have to manually check everything

[pearl atlas]

How does everyone feel about the Ugreen Nasync? Is there any info about using it detached from the internet?

[wanton garnet]

would that still be the case even though when i use a simple usb to ethernet adapter everything works completely fine

[waxen scroll]

same wire? same switch port?

I would check if it has that info set or not.

[kind field]

That is a gooorgeous little case.

[tribal ether]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LYKVQP

with this case and mobo, I'll have EEC memory, an igpu but the option to upgrade to dedicated gpu, i can now double my ram in the future

[blazing mantle]

what’s a starter router for like 100 bucks

for some info i have 1 gig of wifi but the isp’s provided router is literally dog shit

[thick minnow]

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/node/node-804/black/ is my plan for my jellyfin server

[uneven socket]

im trying to set up a nighthawk mesh system with a router and 2 satellites with an existing nighthawk router. is there a way I can set the router up to be an access point but keep the satellites the way they are? I just want to use ethernet from one of the satellites without cutting the wifi to the rest of the house which is what happened when we tried this about an hour ago by ourselves

[tender lantern]

Anyone has a galaxy watch? So I want to reserve an IP for my watch with static lease, I disconnected Bluetooth and forgot the network, added manually and disabled random mac adress, however the mac adress shown on my router doesn't match with the one show in the settings

[sly compass]

Idk how android works, but ios has an unique mac adress for each wifi. It shouldn’t change that often

[crystal oriole]

I am a bit late here but isnt 10.0.0.0/8 a bit to wide for this usecase (not that it really matters) but why not just use 192.168.0.0/16 instead- you still have plenty of room there..

[tender lantern]

I know I already disabled random mac on my sisters iphone most of the devices are working with the IP that I signed to the mac.
On wearos tho because it connects to wifis that are syncing with the phone u dont even have to type the password for the network however if u turn off Bluetooth and forget the network while adding it in advanced u can disable random mac adress and it connects just fine I just can't comprend how is the mac adress still not the one thats stated in the system info

[sly compass]

Sounds like a firmware issue on the watch. Try a reboot 😅

[tender lantern]

Ok I just figured it out and its so dumb

Theres a hidden save button below the random mac adress toggle

I was taking screenshots

Dont have pc on me to record with scrcpy and I was centering it and there it was

[blazing karma]

Already have all of that done

The problem is some devices that’s connected to vlan doesn’t work with internet

Eg my brothers PS5

Wired wireless both doesn’t work with my media vlan

[blazing karma]

And I already have my all the vlans subnet figured out

10.20.x.x for all of them

Rules are currently all to all permitted except my guest VLAN on OPNSense

Just devices take a few to figure out it has internet

But some doesn’t know at all until I dump them back on I tagged

*untagged

[opal pagoda]

Yes you can but it doesn't matter one bit except that it is quicker to write 10.0.0.0/8 address than the alternative

[crystal oriole]

Yeah true

[west vortex]

https://a.co/d/iTnPL26

Looking at this to rackmount my Pi's but also looking to see if anyone else has experience with a better 1U option if there even is one.

[opal pagoda]

how many ras pi-es?

i would probably just print it https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4125055

[west vortex]

I only have 2 right now. I might get 2 more for funsies. Also, I don't own a 3D printer right now

[robust chasm]

Does anyone have any recommendations for an affordable consumer router that has long term software support, Wifi 6E, and an enterprise level of customization? (power over Ethernet would also be nice but not needed)

This would also be used at home

[opal pagoda]

Wdym by affordable? Put a dollar amount to that

[sly compass]

Meh not fast enough drivers here, should get some better drives :S
10gbit not even close 😄

[cedar sapphire]

https://twitter.com/attrc/status/1778845719882842356 - Happy Friday from us at Volexity 🙂

Andrew Case (@attrc) on X

Our team's technical breakdown of exploitation of the Palo Alto 0day. Patch and remediate ASAP!

#DFIR #infosec

Twitter · Apr 12, 2024, 6:00 PM

[charred cliff]

Is anyone aware of an M.2 WiFi 7 card that's CPU-agnostic? I haven't been able to find any online. I currently have an old Intel laptop, but I'm saving for an AMD Framework, so I was hoping I could buy a card now, use it, then swap it into the new one.

[drowsy fossil]

afaik the only ones that are cpu specific are the ngw ones
add -ngw to your search and anything should work in theory

[willow relic]

Q: any recommendations for switching my wifi to a shitload of APs without swapping out the router? I want strong coverage throughout the house including basement and garage, ideally I'd prefer if i could just keep my current router, disable the wifi on it, and send all the traffic back over 4 or 5 PoE APs to keep things simple. I'm not sure what requires controllers or its own specific router or if there's any simple solutions.

[peak cloak]

don't need to change router, a controller will be preferable to allow better wifi roaming

I like the tplink omada series

how big is your space that you need 4-5 APs

I've been running on only 1, although if it's a brick wall construction that really reduces wifi penetration

[willow relic]

big enough. 4 would likely be good enough, i just want everywhere to be very robust signal. One for the front and back, one for the basement, and one for detatched garage. So if i went this route, can i just do the little omada controller with 2 ports and send it out to a poe switch and toss up a bunch of APs?

[peak cloak]

yeah, although not in the way you described. The controller just needs to be on the network

[willow relic]

oh cool

even easier then

[peak cloak]

so Router -> Switch -> (Everything else, AP, Controller, etc.)

as long as it's on the same L2 network

[willow relic]

any preferred APs on the omada series or any i should avoid in your opinion?

[peak cloak]

idk of any, just look at what your requirements are. You def don't need any of high density solutions

[willow relic]

thanks for the recommend, these look like it should work out fine

[sinful ice]

when someone downloads something, everyone connected to the switch gets no connection, should i just replace the unmanaged switch with a managed one

[silent flax]

watching a video about "home surveilance system", it is ironic how different legislative limitations are between US and EU 😄

US: You can record public spaces with some minor limitations.

My country in EU: If you doing recording, you can't record without a security project and camera being registered in a registry, same applies to publicly accessible indoor places (workplace etc). Really only place you can record with no problems are indoors where there is no expectation of recording other people.

i was thinking about doing it (which would meant PoE etc), but meh, at the cost of all the legal hoops i would have to jump over, not worth it.

[onyx walrus]

hey does anyone know how to disable their vpn from router or in some way i cant just change it immediately after? to be specific, my router is the Virgin Plus (brand) Valerie model, or in other words this one : https://www.virginplus.ca/en/support/internet/interactive-guides.html

[opal pagoda]

um what
managed/unmanaged switch doesent matter in your case

[strong garden]

i have just got a new isp provided router and it has a usable usb port for printer or a usb drive for a file sharing server but i wanna use both the features at the same time so will i be able to use a usb hub to use both the features at the same time ?

[pseudo blade]

"Probably"

[thick minnow]

does anyone know any cheap mobile routers that can be used without sim (as repeater for iphone) and also support monitor mode

[opal pagoda]

Look at glinet mobile/travel routers

[edgy tundra]

I recently moved house and have kept my same internet package and router. I live more rural and my ping has doubled. I am using virgin media hub 5 with a net booster and in counter strike i am getting 40 ping while my opponents get below 10. Is there anything i can do to lower my ping? My speeds are fine it is just my ping. I have tried tcp optimizer and using a different DNS.

[obtuse cypress]

So you're on cellular?

[ornate jungle]

No idea what a "net booster" is, but aside from tweaking DNS, there's not much you can do to decrease ping on your own. Switching to Fiber from DOCSIS would be one way, if Fiber is available. (Looks like the media hub 5 uses DOCSIS technology - not inherently bad per se, but pings around 30-60 ms are "normal" for most DOCSIS connections I've used.) https://www.virginmedia.com/broadband/existing-customer-deals/hub

[edgy tundra]

when i said net booster i meant a pod my bad

[ornate jungle]

Ah, so you're on WiFi too. Connect via hardwired Ethernet then re-test the connection. Even if this isn't fesible long-term, it will at least help narrow down where the increased latency is coming from.

[edgy tundra]

i am wired into the pod is that still bad

[ornate jungle]

The pod is wireless to the modem right? ...

[edgy tundra]

pretty sure

[ornate jungle]

Bypass ALL wireless links within your control, then re-test. Network troubleshooting is 95% trial and error via process of elimination, and 5% DNS. No, wait - it's always DNS. 😄

[edgy tundra]

my parents definitely wont let me route a ethernet cable through my house

[edgy tundra]

i tried dns and lowered it a bit but thats the best ive been able to do

are there any devices that wont need me to run a ethernet cable through my house?

[ornate jungle]

You can try PowerLine AV adapters, but those are largely dependent on your home's electrical wiring, so if you buy any, ensure the store you buy from allows returns if they don't work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywQeJCa3jl8

[edgy tundra]

alright tysm man ill give it a shot

[cunning lion]

MOCA adapters are a thing as well if you have coaxial in your place for satellite or cable. Would need to double check that any splitters in the house are the right range for MOCA tho

[thick minnow]

Wired is best I learned that from using a single wireless link to rest of my network

[hearty lily]

Want to discuss with somebody how to set up a nas system looking to build one for my house and have backups of phone computer ect on it anyone available to talk me through it. Do I need windows for it or is this a Linux thing

[thick minnow]

why does my connection constantly turn off when I use a specific router or switch but works when I just use the wire giving me internet in the first place I live with a Chinese guy and I pay him for the internet, I know hes not touching the wire or messing with my connection, and I have four things I need plugged in in my room ps5 my pc and the router/switch

it also hates vrchat when I launch that game my connection immidetly drops

its super specific and I've never had this happen to me until I moved into this place im in.

its been happening for 3 years now and I'm sick of it and have no idea what the hell is up with the modem/router

the modem is in his part of the house by the way so I cant look at it

I feel like someone's DDOSing me or something

I'm thinking of just buying a $100 router

no clue if this would even fix the problem I'm having

if it helps any I'm using a really long wire that goes from the basement to my room

also sorry if questions like this arent supposed to be in this chat but you guys out of anybody I can think of might know whats going on here cause I sure as heck don't.

[mild turtle]

Need some hub suggestions. We finally got Fibre in December but the hub supplied by the ISP I believe we've been having nothing but issues with it. Online there are loads of people complaining about the device, a lot of them sharing same/similar issues to what we're having. My brother keeps complaining about a sort of latency issue. He says his ping on Discord shoots high and gets packet loss will be anywhere from 75% to 100% and he'll cutout and people can't hear him. Has also complained about issues with in game things as well. When the hub is reset that he says resolves all the problems. Apparently the internet has cut out for periods of time as well, but I've been asleep when these have happened. I've tried speaking to the ISP but they're customer support seemed to be based somewhere in Asia and don't understand a single thing you're telling them. The moment you go off their script you've lost them. I've had someone out and to be honest while he was somewhat helpful in other areas he was kinda useless. I explained the situation before but he didn't seem to know what I was going on about. Perhaps I'll get suggested otherwise but I think the hub itself is the problem. ?

[silver thicket]

define "goes off" @thick minnow ? can you ping 1.1.1.1 for example when its off

try ping the router as well - not sure what OS your on - but presume youll be getting your IP from DHCP from the router so you should be able to find its IP using ipconfig / ifconfig / ip a [linux]

[thick minnow]

I'll be playing a game I alt tab and this thing turns to a circle

i click it and it goes back on

it goes on and off 9-10 times if not more a day

[thick minnow]

no clue how to do that tbf

[silver thicket]

ping is a command you run at a terminal and it sends data to the remote computer at the address you specify and that computer sends some data back. kind of like... hey you there 1.1.1.1 and it sends back a yeah i'm here. by measuring how long it takes for the data to come back you can work out latency etc. If you open your command prompt on Windows (presuming your on Windows from the icon) you can type in ping 1.1.1.1 and press enter and youll see whats going on.

~/dev
❯ ping 1.1.1.1
PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=7.350 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=33.992 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=13.717 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=11.427 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=10.876 ms
64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=17.335 ms
^C
--- 1.1.1.1 ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 7.350/15.783/33.992/8.683 ms

im on a mac but it same thing

1.1.1.1 is the address of a server on the internet (cloudflare, but that doesnt really matter)

you need to work out, if its the connection between your PC and the router in the neighbours room thats dropping or the connection between the internet and the neighbours router

so if you can ping the neighbours router, but not something on the internet (so cloudflare for example) then its likely to be the neighbours internet provider.

i wouldnt go and sink money into buying a router as you don't know whats up at this stage. it could be the cable? can you get neighbours wifi password and see if you can connect via wifi and see if the problem goes away

[thick minnow]

im using the 1.1.1.1 dns lol

idk how to ping stuff on windows 11

[zealous ocean]

So can I add my own route to a securew2 eduroam network, in other words to a dorm network where u need login credentials

[silver thicket]

command prompt on windows 11 .... youll see it in the start menu

[thick minnow]

i mean, I did make the cable

[silver thicket]

well theres your problem 😛

[thick minnow]

i wired it myself it's 400 ft long or some crap

its obnoxiously long

[silver thicket]

is that in spec lol i can't think your all old school units

[thick minnow]

its random wire my dad was going to strip for copper

its probably a mix of cat 4-5 wire

should I just buy a new wire?

one I didnt wire myself?

[silver thicket]

for that sort of length you need something decent

thats likely to be the issue

[thick minnow]

its about 150-200 ft away

the modem

it goes up 3 floors(the wire)

[silver thicket]

cat6e max length is 100m

your like 121m ... can you put a switch half way down the run or something

[thick minnow]

oh yeah, I could. I got one laying around

[silver thicket]

id definately get some shielded cable though and make sure you terminate it properly - if its a one off just buy a premade cable if you ccan

[clear igloo]

The max length for any RJ45 cable for ethernet is 100m, regardless of what kind of cat cable it is (5, 6, 6a, etc) although higher gens can do faster speeds at that distance limitation
It's down to signal integrity limitations of an ethernet port and other stuff

[thick minnow]

I can I got money for it

[clear igloo]

but yah it could "work" beyond that but basically it's super hit or miss as OP is seeing 🙂

[thick minnow]

the wires are put together with hot glue

it has no sheilding at all its spit in 5 different places with diferent tape and methods to cover the spliced parts

[silver thicket]

lmao

[clear igloo]

Oh, well in that case it's even worse than a proper cable, lol

[thick minnow]

its a mcgivered wire

[silver thicket]

im wanting photos

[clear igloo]

yup, photos 😄

[opal pagoda]

officially yes
unofficially we have some ap-s at 120m

[clear igloo]

yah, your mileage will vary a ton after 100m 🙂

[opal pagoda]

*using high quality industrial grade cat7 sftp

the good stuff

[clear igloo]

Using TERA connectors?

[silver thicket]

120m run between 3 floors though, thats a hell of a run (i think...) - must be a huge house?

[opal pagoda]

nah

[opal pagoda]

more like big warehouse

[clear igloo]

for shame, you are not in ISO spec 😛

[silver thicket]

isnt a typical room like 6m

[silent flax]

but 100 meters is for a single cable. one can add a switch inbetween

[silver thicket]

6m in height i mean for a house

[clear igloo]

nah, usually floor to ceiling is 10ft roughly so maybe 3.5m to 4m at the high end

[silver thicket]

maybe sammy is in a skyscraper 😄

[opal pagoda]

i dont know single switch that takes tera connectors

[clear igloo]

yah, I don't think they exist

[silver thicket]

i suppose i could google but as lazy... whats a tera connecctor

[opal pagoda]

i dont know if GG45 switch even exists

[clear igloo]

It was a new connector that was supposed to come with Cat7 cables but the spec never got fully ratified by TIA/EIA so it kind of just faded into limbo

[silver thicket]

btw appologise for typos mbp keyboard seems to be dieing on me... butterfly... sigh...

[silver thicket]

thanks

[opal pagoda]

trust me cat7 usage is one of the first things i asked about since it is in our standard...

[opal pagoda]

yikes

[thick minnow]

It's really bad.

[silver thicket]

i thought you were pulling our legs 😄

[opal pagoda]

wuth the hell happened hear

[silver thicket]

jesus... well there is your problem!

[clear igloo]

Yah, I mean provided it's quality cable it's fine 🙂

[silver thicket]

how you have got 100mbit ethernet over that

im amazed over 120m run

your going to see a world of difference if you get a decent cable in, is the internet crawling at the moment?

[thick minnow]

Would buying a long wire that's not like that help?

[silver thicket]

id bet a pint of beer thats your problem

[opal pagoda]

https://itinfra.datwyler.com/en/copper-networks/copper-cables/cu-7002-4p-industrial-pur-eca/

[clear igloo]

10,000% it would help for sure

[clear igloo]

I would say that's up to par 😄

[thick minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-amiya-gif-27432993

[silver thicket]

i mean could you try connect to wifi... that might be easier than running a long cabble

[thick minnow]

I'd need a wifi adapter lol

[opal pagoda]

i am currently discussing order for 10km of it so yea

[thick minnow]

They're 10 bucks so that's ez

[silver thicket]

homeplugs are good too

[clear igloo]

Just a bit, very cool

[silver thicket]

well until you get noisy appliances... things like tumbedryers sometimes knock out homeplug

[clear igloo]

powerline is very hit or miss, yah

[silver thicket]

got to be better than that cable though surely

[opal pagoda]

what is interesting is that they sell you the "cable" and then copper in that cable by weight
i was so confused at first

[thick minnow]

Wait I remember hearing about a thing that can send connection through the plug on the wall

[clear igloo]

That's odd but I guess if it works for them as a business that's cool

[silver thicket]

thats what i mean.. homeplug

[clear igloo]

yah, powerline is the proper term

[silver thicket]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=homeplug&crid=3AOTP9WZY2NMZ&sprefix=homeplug%2Caps%2C157&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

sorry @ proper term 😛

[clear igloo]

lol, all good it gets you to the same results 🙂

[opal pagoda]

maybe homeplug is regional uk wording

[clear igloo]

Just be careful of marketing that will say like 500Mbps max speed and put 100Mbps ethernet ports on either side so you'll never get more than 100Mbps throughput

[silver thicket]

i was just about to say ive exposed myself as a brit but then remembered i got uk in my handle ha

one thing i have always wondered with powerline 😉 adapters... can you mix and match vendors

i presume they all have to be the same speed

(or do they negiotiate to the slowest or something like that)

[clear igloo]

Same vendor on both sides is needed for encryption and whatnot I believe

and pairing varies between vendors too I'm sure

[opal pagoda]

and if possible get moca adapter instead of powerline

[silver thicket]

not heard of moca

[opal pagoda]

american houses are full of coax.
it uses that

[clear igloo]

MoCA varies by region since coax usage depends on region

[thick minnow]

https://www.amazon.ca/GearIT-Outdoor-Ethernet-Copper-Direct/dp/B08P2TJ227/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2IICC0O37QEZ7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.911EBfcWaYyDX_NHfWO9PaNRbWsf-QJz4wUPltrSyMmaD5r5A-RgydcRTk-dwEsvrswBVP9-Wmaqfab7tMdfD12ZHdwjvEl0xnArB7FBJrVq2GHUd57Q1U6LRPGiU116e6jEYTu0Ik8qdAZH5ivGv7NzWbj0t5DGd1DGOsRBtJ3i3tNlI9N3Om8uQsebjhtkdRc44r-YvFhQGdec3fE9KGuYuIGJBm6xt99bC944hMKs8Aoa7a01UmcbkU5V3WLiUtIjYwwRCHX_2Vms9MebO0YxbVHl1vNbfdDnxZVq0C0.ZVZ8mQXgoxC7ZqVC58m5ac3i3zQpOMCsMv5iQ8qxBio&dib_tag=se&keywords=200ft%2Bethernet%2Bwire&qid=1713125708&sprefix=200ft%2Bethernet%2Bwire%2Caps%2C123&sr=8-5&th=1

[silver thicket]

ah ok - i guess originally for chucking tv into every room

[thick minnow]

would this wire work ?

[clear igloo]

boooo!!!! hiss, cca is the most evil cable ever

brittle and prone to breakage to start with

[thick minnow]

huh wot why

[silver thicket]

more evil than the existing ccable Lurick?

its not real copper

[thick minnow]

https://www.amazon.ca/Ethernet-Network-Internet-Snagless-Connectors/dp/B0749Y3JTG/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2IICC0O37QEZ7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.911EBfcWaYyDX_NHfWO9PaNRbWsf-QJz4wUPltrSyMmaD5r5A-RgydcRTk-dwEsvrswBVP9-Wmaqfab7tMdfD12ZHdwjvEl0xnArB7FBJrVq2GHUd57Q1U6LRPGiU116e6jEYTu0Ik8qdAZH5ivGv7NzWbj0t5DGd1DGOsRBtJ3i3tNlI9N3Om8uQsebjhtkdRc44r-YvFhQGdec3fE9KGuYuIGJBm6xt99bC944hMKs8Aoa7a01UmcbkU5V3WLiUtIjYwwRCHX_2Vms9MebO0YxbVHl1vNbfdDnxZVq0C0.ZVZ8mQXgoxC7ZqVC58m5ac3i3zQpOMCsMv5iQ8qxBio&dib_tag=se&keywords=200ft+ethernet+wire&qid=1713125780&sprefix=200ft+ethernet+wire%2Caps%2C123&sr=8-6

[opal pagoda]

aluminium is brittile

[silver thicket]

its alumium with copper coating

[thick minnow]

what bout this one

[opal pagoda]

if you are in canada get them from https://www.infinitecables.com/

[silver thicket]

try and get it premade

crimping rj45 connectors isnt much fun

[opal pagoda]

terminating them in a keystone is much easier and often tooless

[silver thicket]

i cant thing what the tool is called for keystones

idc? insertion tool or something

[opal pagoda]

most modern keystone modules are toolless

[silver thicket]

i not seem them

ill have a google

[silver thicket]

fancy

it even shows you the colour code! i hated that... esp... as there is 2 variants from what i remember

[thick minnow]

wotz this thing lol

[clear igloo]

@thick minnow I'd look at this:
https://www.amazon.ca/Abireiv-Resistant-Waterproof-Buried-able-Compatible/dp/B09M5VQWF4?th=1
Bit more money but pure copper at least

[thick minnow]

$54 is a lot for a cable but if it works it works

[clear igloo]

yah, most of them were like $95 or more which was insane

[silver thicket]

you sure wifi not going to work?

[thick minnow]

wifi sucks

im on third floor modem is in basement

[clear igloo]

yah, distance to the router it might be worse than the cable used now, lol

[silver thicket]

120m of cable though it must be a hell of a run...

you sure you going to be able to route it all easily?

[thick minnow]

i have my cable going through the vent

lol

[clear igloo]

If it's already run and not stabled nor nailed down anywhere just tie the new one to the old and pull 😄

[thick minnow]

I'll get a NAIL gun

that should be good

wait no a staple gun oops

[clear igloo]

lol

[silver thicket]

or.... good excuse to get your own fibre to premises line dropped straight into your bedroom 😄

sharing your network with the neighbour isnt great really from a security perspective

[opal pagoda]

well fiber costs bout the same

[silver thicket]

noo i was meaning own dedicated line from the telco

rather than going down to the neighbours room and using the neighbours internet provider

[thick minnow]

lol my connection is COAX

i want fiber though

[opal pagoda]

do you have coax in your room?

[thick minnow]

its better then DSL thats for sure

[thick minnow]

the coax goes to modem

everything else is wifi or ethernet

[silver thicket]

doxsis or whatever its called (virgin over here use it)

[thick minnow]

i can get gigabit for $150 a month

if I move out that is

[long thistle]

US lmao

[silver thicket]

see look at what coming in here and asking about your internet problem has caused, your looking at new houses now 😄

[silver thicket]

ouch... thats pricey

[thick minnow]

it's canada what u expect lol

[opal pagoda]

wait untill you see this (price in chf)

[thick minnow]

;-;

[silver thicket]

45 squid a month... you need move to the UK sammy 😛

10gbit! for 39.95 chf... i dont know what the conversion is hang on

[long thistle]

symmetrical

[silver thicket]

damn its 10x as fast and cheaper 😦 i need move switzerland

sammy me and you are moving 😄

1000mb for 16 bucks a month?

[long thistle]

yup

[opal pagoda]

tbh everything is about 1:1 nowadays
usd, euro, chf, pounds

[silver thicket]

we need 1x uber currency... oh wait hasnt that been tried before 😛

[thick minnow]

dies

[opal pagoda]

eurodollars when

[silver thicket]

bitcoin 😄

[opal pagoda]

bitcoin but printed on paper

[silver thicket]

mining coins on a hp deskjet

[thick minnow]

oo I wanna buy an office

[silver thicket]

see i was trying to talk you out of buying the expensive cable, but now we are definately into real estate

get the cable 😛

[thick minnow]

had to zoom out far for it all to fit

i got a lot of files I have to scan and put into folders or a storage area

ive had these files since 2016 and they're turning to dust I gotta scan them

i have them sitting in a binder from my past and its turning brown from age

most of them are extremely important files too

[silver thicket]

going paperless is definately good, just make sure you keep some form of backup in place

[thick minnow]

(my debts and CRA stuff)

[silver thicket]

backblaze has saved my ass a lot recently

[opal pagoda]

meanwhile i see people doing this
print document,
look at document,
place the docuent in the convinietly placed shredder next to the printer

[thick minnow]

I'm just going to reprint the files in paper form

They wont degrade if they're stored properly instead of sitting on my desk in a binder

[silver thicket]

the wont degrade at all if they were digital

[thick minnow]

hahaha

[silver thicket]

meh ive probably got some bias, i had so much stuff, then lost it because of life, and now ive got clothes, laptop, ipad and phone and thats it. and its such a nice feeling not having stuff everywhere

sure i miss all my books etc.. but ive got them on kindle etc.. now

[thick minnow]

ohh with the file folders I can make ''debt'' folder ''cra'' folder ''misc'' folder ''bills'' folder

etc I could do that on pc but I dont trust that for some reason

[silver thicket]

your running Windows thats a good a reason as any not to trust the pc !

[thick minnow]

hahaha

tbf I need to pay my debts but I dont

im 10-14g in debt

[silver thicket]

im about 160k in debt so dont take financial advise from me

[thick minnow]

oh fuck mate

you're way more in debt then me

[silver thicket]

majority of it is from a house that got reprocessed

(divorce)

[thick minnow]

mortgage?

[silver thicket]

yeah i bought a house then a month later the wife said she was having an affair and left and my head fell off.. so i walked away.. house got sold at auction for practically nothing

[thick minnow]

that's awful holy crap

;-;

[silver thicket]

meh it was a long time ago

[thick minnow]

ick I'm downing a bottle of gin rn hahaha

[silver thicket]

id just say dont let things snowball and end up like i have,... if you can sort it out whilst its manageable then thats probably the best thing

[thick minnow]

burns my throat

[zealous ocean]

So um

[opal pagoda]

student debt?

[thick minnow]

nah its bills

[opal pagoda]

yikes

[thick minnow]

isps power water

etc

[opal pagoda]

must be some expensive water

[silver thicket]

water == gin. 😛

[zealous ocean]

Can some help whit ssh OpenWrt?

[silver thicket]

you got me wanting some now

[thick minnow]

I owe TELUS 2k I owe SaskTel 1k I owe sask power 1.2 k I owe the water company $600 I owe acess communications $678

[silver thicket]

what help do you need Kelp?

[thick minnow]

i can go on and on I owe EVERYTHING money

[silver thicket]

write to them and try and do like a payment plan

[thick minnow]

my moms debt got loaded onto me too

[silver thicket]

i dont know if its like over here but they end up selling off the debt to other firms

[thick minnow]

why me? who knows.

[zealous ocean]

I do telnet [ip] and I ge this

[silver thicket]

that worked in my favour... 100k owe to company a... they sell to company b the debt for say 50k... then company b sell to company c for 25k etc..

so you can end up negiotiating it down with company c, as they only paid 25k

[thick minnow]

I cant imagine being in one figure of debt

[silver thicket]

but you got to wait it out

[thick minnow]

i owe 10-14 grand most

[silver thicket]

your telnetting on to an ssh port Kelp

you need to use a ssh client (Putty if your on Winblows)

not sure if openwrt has telnet running - try port 21 - ssh is port 22

but you dont want to use telnet really these days anyway as its unencrypted and insecure, try and get in the habbit of using ssh if you can

[opal pagoda]

and if possible private/public keys for auth in addition to password

[silver thicket]

you know i was really thinking i was going to have to get this mbp keyboard replaced but coming in here tonight and hammering it seems to have broken it into submission 😄

[zealous ocean]

Oh ye I just figured out that I have a ssh client

I didn't figured it out but now I know

[zealous ocean]

Well it was 22 now its 23

[silver thicket]

oh your right 21 is ftp

sorry my bad.. had a few beers 😄

[zealous ocean]

U good

[silver thicket]

as long as youve got sorted thats the main thing

[zealous ocean]

So um ye that thing I won't to do won't work biacas I don't have Internet

And I need to do it so it will work

So the network I want to connect the router to has securew2 eduroam security in other words a user and password protection

[opal pagoda]

https://superuser.com/questions/1771881/connect-openwrt-to-eduroam

[zealous ocean]

Thx

Ngl nothing fucking works no joke

[opal pagoda]

what hardware do you have running openwrt?

[zealous ocean]

To link archer c6 (eu v2)

[opal pagoda]

do you have root cert file of your school/college on it?

[zealous ocean]

What u mean?

Ye dint worry the router is broken now

[opal pagoda]

slovenia™️

[zealous ocean]

To lazy to change my pc to English

[opal pagoda]

are you connecting to eduroam wifi or eduroam wired (in a dorm)?

[zealous ocean]

Wired

[zealous ocean]

But like I said I killed the router

Oh nvm

I fix it

[opal pagoda]

the configs i posted were for wifi

for wired you need to configure ca root certificate, radius server, eap algorythm and username/password

[zealous ocean]

Can I just change this?

[zealous ocean]

OK so I can't get nano installed

That the only thing that holding me back

[hearty lily]

any1 reccomend a prebuilt nas for someone starting out

[fading shore]

What would be better, one machine setup as router+firewall+media server/nas or one machine for router+firewall and a dedicated media server?

[distant grotto]

we made a mistake with 200gbe networking

can't tell you the number of times I've found a bottleneck in my stack over the last 2 years that comes down to everyone poorly doing 200gbe, mix of 25x4, 25x8, 50x2, 50x4, 100x2, 200x1 standards all talking over switches that generally want 50x4 but some did 100x1 with extended 200x1 support if you talk the magical side channel bits

I guess 800gbe isn't going to be complete hell, aside from the latency hit

[pseudo blade]

Synology's stuff is pretty nice

QNAP is a bit cheaper and different, but some people don't like them (I personally find them to work fairly well, just make sure you don't allow them to expose themselves to the internet via UPnP, much like the Synology's).

[sly compass]

I looking at NAS in the future, i either buy one that can do minimum 7gbit raw speed at least 10gbit cache. But that means lot of money for the storage i want. Minimum 20tb. Ofc redundant storage.

So at that price i might as well go synology but yea. Getting my network to be perfect before hand is priority over nas right now

[waxen mauve]

heya, can someone smarter help me out here, i've got a VPN on, does that disconnect my ethernet use?

my cable is plugged in to my pc and router, i then occasionally get ethernet icon and other times wifi icon, is this common with VPN usage or should i do something about it like different cable / is my gigabit connection dying

[opal pagoda]

are you full tunneling or split tunneling?

[waxen mauve]

i'm afraid I dont know

i'm using Norton VPN (my dad pays big bucks for norton so it comes with a free VPN)

[opal pagoda]

then its probably full tunnel

[waxen mauve]

i think i am full tunnel

if i am fully tunnel then will it not allow ethernet use?

[opal pagoda]

it should

split tunneling is when just portion of traffic is tunneled, tipically remote resources and normal internet traffic goes to destination without going trough vpn

[waxen mauve]

thanks <3

[opal pagoda]

is traffic going trough tho?

what windows shows isnt what is important

[waxen mauve]

i mean i'm able to do things with my vpn, for vpn required reasons

it just says i'm only connected via wifi

[opal pagoda]

that is fine

[mild turtle]

Can someone educate me on how I pick a good router?

[opal pagoda]

first what tier do you want
home, soho, enterprise

[mild turtle]

At home.

I need something that can handle several devices, 1G download, 2.4-5ghz, blah blah. I know I can just go buy any old piece of shit but I'd prefer to make an informed choice. I'm not sure how I go about researching the subject. I know bare basics about networking but further than that I know nothing.