networking

[hearty lily]

Ight fair

I have deco ac1200 they say they can do gigabit internet although even when wired together I'm only getting about 200mbs download. When I'm connected direct to router I'm getting my 800-900mbs download. Is there some setting I need to change or is there another one of there products I may need to switch to maybe something with wifi 6 to get better speeds through them?

[opal pagoda]

1200mbps is only theorethical and even then highly misleading as its a sum of 2.4g and 5ghz bandwidth

[hearty lily]

Okay but I would have thought I would maintain my speed if it's just passing through

As soon as it comes out of the unit it slows everything down the line from it to it's 200

[peak cloak]

wired as in?

wired all the way to PC?

or is there a wifi link somewhere?

[hearty lily]

I have 1 unit by my pc so I've tried both ways and 1 going from router to deco to computer and 1 from router to computer and no wifi in any of the link all cat 6 wire and yeah speeds change on my computer from 200 to 800

[peak cloak]

huh, weird

[peak cloak]

which model is it?

nevermind I see you said it

don't see how that should happen

unless it's a bug

using the same cables?

[hearty lily]

Yup when testing I unplugged from deco and plugged into comp

[cedar iron]

What is the best powerline for gaming?

[ornate jungle]

Any Powerline AV adapters that work reliably in your specific residence are just fine for "gaming" purposes, same as any other purposes that require a reliable network. It's best to purchase from a store with a good return policy in case the electrical wiring in your home doesn't work well with Powerline AV adapters.

[pseudo blade]

Hence why I was very specific.
Even for AX real world baseline speeds (2.4ghz, max channel width) can be too slow for 250mbps real world. You have to read into what you have+are buying deeper than that.

AX with the same bandwidth, antennas and chains is better than AC.

But unfortunately there's a lot of shit adapters and routers around

Like the dual-chain 802.11N or single-chain AC adapters linked, which are utterly unfit for purpose

[vast shard]

@pseudo blade My router from Netgear can handle WiFi 6 and they have Wifi 6e and now making routers for Wifi 7

[pseudo blade]

Cool

And?

[vast shard]

Wifi 7 router on Netgears has so much better speed

[pseudo blade]

Uh huh

Thanks for letting me know

[vast shard]

Beside doing modem and router change, I change my actual coaxial cable, f-connector and capped the splitter to have over 1 Gigabit internet speed

@pseudo blade The real experiment comes from coaxial cable though

I read that Modem SNR numbers 40db and above is the best, I have SNR 40.something to 42

[vast shard]

There isn't any powerline adapter adequate for gaming at all. It all depends on your modem and router and length of cables you have everything connected too. Sometime you do need longer cables than necessary, but that can be too excessive as well.

[vast shard]

The only best powerline for gaming, if your in wall powerline is not old and outdated throughout the entire building.

[blazing karma]

Damn this is weird

[bright atlas]

what

[vast shard]

It is very true, if the powerline which is your electrical wiring is very old and not up to code, powerline plugs doesn't work very well

That is why I am changing my coaxial cable the Internet People gave me.

[bright atlas]

What are you talking about, the coaxial cable is not tied into your electrical wiring

[vast shard]

I know it is not but they both have copper in them

[bright atlas]

if you are in an apartment its likely that there is a single coaxial cable running through your entire complex in the attic and you are all just branched off it. changing the cable that connects from your wall to your modem will likely not do anything

[vast shard]

It did a lot for me when I changed it

[bright atlas]

If you have a modem you purchased seperately you will likely need to call them to have it configured because it accesses a particular band on the coaxial cable so your internet isnt shared with other people

[vast shard]

Mine is a house

Everything is default and it work more than perfect

[bright atlas]

Lol

[blazing karma]

After Finishing Setting up all the VLANs and gateways

My DHCP server isn’t working lol

[feral agate]

So i jsut did a case swap and now my internet is like super slow like i would get 60 and 30 down and up but now i am only geting 7 and 18

any ideas

[warm fern]

https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/peer/
is this a trustworthy site?
it should tell u what is being torrented from your network

i havent used torrent for like a year

[tall pagoda]

Can agree that internet is worst in Germany prior to 2020. BnetzA have slapped the telecom providers on their fingers

[hearty lily]

This is also why I'm confused I didn't think I was reading info or setting up incorrectly

[warm fern]

should i be worried about this

do i have a virus or something

def not

[tall pagoda]

Luckily I have a 2nd method of communication.
Programmed to DB0EE (439,025MHz) and PI2NON (430,275)

[warm fern]

is this data for my pc only or for the entire network?

[tall pagoda]

430MHz (70cm) Amateur FM radio

If you have HAM radio certification.

Not really. (For the Netherlands down below)
There are a few websites that have clear instructions (DLZA and IWAB are a few examples).
Theory exams are done by CBR (The same authority for driving exams)
If passed, you get a callsign from RDI (Formerly AT).

You need to have basic knowledge of electricty btw

And yes, i am Dutchie living close to Germany

There are 2 types of HAM radio certification.
N and F.
N = Novice, easy mode (Callsign begins with PD)
F = Full, hard mode (Callsign begins with PA, PB, or PH)

The novice one?
24/7, although with less power and transmit abilties (25W max on 70cm, and 2m band. 100W max on 40m band)

Sure, if enough transmit power

[tall pagoda]

Nope, only Dutch

Getting 600/100 at work

https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/6030866068

My plan is rate limited at 600Mbit/s. And only 783MHz is used here. RDI will do auction on 3500MHz band this year.

Well developed. The dutch have best mobile network according to Umlaut

Without the Dutch, no computers (Wink to NXP, ASML and Philips)

Thanks to Tusk unfortunately

[tall pagoda]

Does anyone here know how to unblock Baofeng GT-5R without using CHIRP? (I don't have a programming cable 😦 )

[lost lily]

gofundme 😭

[opal pagoda]

congestion due to tourists...

[lost lily]

yes

[opal pagoda]

in off season it is awesome

[lost lily]

especially in the city center

i remember getting in 2019 120Mbps at home from 4G

from my 8€/h plan

[opal pagoda]

i got that speed in 2015

[lost lily]

well i didnt have a phone in 2015, i was in elementary school

but if i did, i probably would've as well

[lost lily]

im a victorian starving child and my last wish is a 48port QSFP28 switch

one day i'll have one

[opal pagoda]

haha we have 2 and we dont have a single 25g transiever in there

just gigabit and some 10g

but atleast uplink to nexus is 100g

[lost lily]

my gf actually was able to snatch up on ebay an SFP+ switch with 4 SFP28

so im happy

but we cant use it yet unfortunately

she lives in the middle of nowhere and has horrible peering

they don't even allow her to advertise her own v6

and i dont have any space

[blazing karma]

Okay finally some progress, currently all my VLANs are up, but weirdly enough it only works one one laptop currently

After I assign the VLAN and let OPNSense hand out the IP via DHCP

Works as in internet connection

[agile torrent]

are you serious? I was happy to get reception in the US let alone decent speed 😄

Not in TN, nope... or PA for that matter 😄

what are you willing to bet?

[gusty storm]

Didn't you get banned in 2022 for doing the exact same thing you're doing now?

[agile torrent]

well he is going to be soon enough, can't even dare to place a bet 😛

[gusty storm]

he was doing the same sorta thing in December 2022 🙃

[agile torrent]

I was about to make a joke but it would be in bad taste, so I won't...

anyway guys. I was voluntold to make a nice dashbaord for Nagios, you know big green/red tiles and the like. Anyone ever did something like this before? I don't really feel like working on a Sunday

[high jasper]

peripheral area network

route peripheral device interface over the networks

looking more into SD-MPLS side of networking with edge router (Ingress LSR , Egress LSR) , Intermediate LSR

right now, look for:
client-side USB-C capture port card for edge router Ingress LSR
host-side USB-C adapter port card for edge router Egress LSR

thanks

[ocean hare]

Hey guys I feel like the default antenas that came with my ax210 are horrible anyone got good rec for better antennas?

[tall pagoda]

8€ per hour??!? Damn, i thought my 37,50€/month plan was expensive

[lost lily]

per month

im sorry 😭

[tall pagoda]

And now i am stuck with Odido (T-Mobile Netherlands) for the upcoming 1,75 years

[ocean hare]

Can someone people recommend me a good wifi anthena? for my ax210?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CGZG1DFV?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share&th=1 Is this any good?

Or are there better ones?

[meager ginkgo]

Could look for a wifi 7 one but that looks good

Check if it’s based on Intel AX210

[astral spire]

wifi 7 is already available? damn they're going crazy with the wifi standards

[ocean hare]

Can I still get wifi7 If my router doesn't support it?

[meager ginkgo]

Yes. WiFi is backwards compatible

WiFi 7 will futureproof your PC when you do get a newer router

[ocean hare]

Alright ^^

Im just sad this ax210 just seems very bad

So I wanna get tp-link since I heard great things about them

[meager ginkgo]

AX210 is pretty good, not sure what you’re seeing

All of the AX210 gear should be about the same.

Doesn’t matter the brand really

[ocean hare]

My old ax200 got about 800mbps download and my ax210 only gets about 200

[meager ginkgo]

Maybe you need to configure it further?

AX210 is the 6E version of the AX200

[ocean hare]

Yeah

But I already went through device manager and properties

unistalled and reinstalled

redone the drivers

[meager ginkgo]

Which AX210 do you have?

Link?

[ocean hare]

Lemme see

https://www.amazon.co.uk/5400Mbps-Wireless-Bluetooth-Network-Express-BT5-2/dp/B0C7BF9MNX/ref=asc_df_B0C7BF9MNX/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=658845455938&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=681357432302199737&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007850&hvtargid=pla-2194307531682&psc=1&mcid=4cbd3dfdfc653884a9f7384150772d3a

this

@meager ginkgo idk if its bad or good

[meager ginkgo]

Are the antennas all the way screwed on?

[ocean hare]

Yeah

maybe the the ax210 I bought is faulty or scam?

[meager ginkgo]

Maybe you just got a bad unit yeah

Try contacting the seller/Amazon

[ocean hare]

Yeah Im just about to return it I have a 30 day return policy on it

@meager ginkgo Thanks for the help so far ^^

[silent flax]

biggest drawback of AX210 is no AP mode in Linux for 5/6GHz

[lone sun]

I've seen scams on Amazon. That much I can say. Gotta be careful buying stuff off that website.

[waxen scroll]

How I feel about most of the cybersec profession

@clear igloo @rocky badge fite me

[ocean hare]

Ok I'll do my very best

[plush peak]

any udm-se enjoyers in chat?
I currently have a UDM-SE and USW-EnterpriseXG-24
setup is sadly RJ45 from google fiber ONT -> RJ45 SFP+ 10G Module -> UDM-SE -> SFP+ DAC -> USW-EnterpriseXG-24
which is in my homelab

I am adding a second USW-EnterpriseXG-24 which is gonna be where all the current house ethernet wires are going to and need to run fiber to connect it back up with the main stack. I am NOT looking to spend 100 on UI manufactured multimode optical modules. so I was looking to see if anyone had experience with using other modules or maybe had a nifty compatibility list or any insight or wisdom they can grant.

as the switches might make it obvious the goal is whole home 10G

Also have access to cheap modules from these:

[plush peak]

this message makes me think we may work at the same place Edit: sorry if that was a bit parasocial it was just a funny coincidence

[hollow marlin]

FS.com is about as cheap as it gets for a well known manufacturer. $20 for SFP+ SR optics programmed for UI

[plush peak]

taking a look thanks!

[empty aspen]

Just curious, how bad is my cable management of this cat7 cable I have connected to my xbox one?

[agile torrent]

we might be working at the same place lol, also fs.com is legit, used them in the past.

[opal pagoda]

I dont belive ubiquiti specifically shuts down port due to 3rd party transceivers.

[ionic gorge]

Morning. Poe switch just failed. I have a passive poe injector and the transformer from the switch. Can I use that for an omada tp-link eap 225? My understanding is it won't be poe+ so what limitation will I see? Will it just drop to 100Mbps?

[ionic gorge]

Specifically it's this I have: https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/15079-solwise-poe-epe1212/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw5ImwBhBtEiwAFHDZx0Gqa8Oh18s9ZtDWsmF0NvGZyNNXNMJMtPqnjpIf3x8jJU-W9yzCWxoCwhEQAvD_BwE

[blazing karma]

I have a few cheap SFP+ 10G modules from China, 40$ per pop

And runs at max like 40-50 in a rack with not much airflow

The older cheaper ones are like 20$-30$ but they run at like 80-90 deg

100% not recommended

[opal pagoda]

Sfp+ to rj45?

Optics run much cooler as there is little processing done on transciever

I have just checked 10g base lr transciever temp and it is 34c
While 1000baselx sfp runs at 29c

[waxen relic]

How can I increase the bandwidth for my PC’s Ethernet without spending 70$ or so

[carmine nymph]

I have tplinks of 90 download 50 upload but over wifi i get like 300-400 download still same ish upload, if I was to stream would I be better off doing it over wifi or stick with tplinks?

[mystic latch]

If your PC has a gigabit port and your internet isn't faster than gigabit, pretty much nothing without upgrading your internet plan.

But need more info to give a proper answer

[blazing karma]

Yep

[blazing karma]

I plan to swap to optics but as im currently running a broadcom card to work with 2500base-x for my gpon, the extra power required by optics might make my gpon stop working

i will need time to test before swapping it over to fiber optic to my pro max 24 poe as uplink

[opal pagoda]

what, optics take less power than 10g sfp+ to rj45

optics take under a watt while base t ones take 3w

[blazing karma]

Oh that’s interesting

Does that apply for all fiber transceivers?

I have an old pair of HP transceivers but no idea if they’re the same

Power consumption wise that is

[waxen relic]

Errors showing the bandwidth is limiting it using over Ethernet service

[silent flax]

i have no idea how much power the RJ45 10G module Onti (aliexpress store) sold me uses, but it sits in the switch for nearly 2 months now without an issue, outside that weird cable issue where my RJ45 cable caused the speeds to be around 200Mbps (very weird number)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000340325163.html the 30m one to be precise

[silent flax]

in general, yes. Optical transmission is less power demanding than converting it to RJ45. When you look at normal network card, then your actual network card with SFP connector is pretty much what is under the heatsink here, while the RJ45 SFP DAC module is the actual connector plus that converter chip next to it. So you need to put all that in that module, and that is not for "free" 🙂

[rocky pecan]

guys do you think i coudl use a dell power edge 360 as router

[silent flax]

you can use anything with two network interfaces as router, question is if it makes sense 🙂

[rocky pecan]

hmm

[silent flax]

I mean E-2414 might be a way too overkill for a typical "router"

i use a Ivy Bridge i5-3470 for my "router", and it has enough performance capacity to run also bunch of docker containers (Home Assistant etc) while also running OpenWRT for router tasks

[rocky pecan]

but then i could sell my old router

wait coudl the power edge also be a nas at the same time

[silent flax]

yes, but question is if you want to do it that way. You can obviously run a virtualization platform and run a virtual router and virtual NAS, but it is not recommended due public attack surface of the virtualization platform in that case

[rocky pecan]

how over kill would it be and what could i have it do as the main thing it does

other than being a router

[silent flax]

i mean your typical router barely needs any performance, that Xeon is probably enough for some QoS over 10 gigabit networking as well. And "other than being router" - well, in my case i can get away by running docker on my router OS, but unsure if anyone else but OpenWRT allows to run Docker or VM on top of the router software itself.

[plush peak]

appreciate the recommendation ended up looking at it then getting side tracked down the module programming route cause ADHD LOL and now have some hardware getting sent to me from flexoptix

two birds one stone cause depending on how this goes gonna use it for larger work projects as well

I really hope the flexbox isnt a massive PITA

[ocean hare]

Hey guys is there a reason I only have access too 20mhz? On my ax210?

[clear igloo]

That's the default options, 20MHz or Auto which is up to 160MHz

It's a legacy setting, just leave it to Auto

[ocean hare]

Alright ^^ thank you

How do you know if its connected on 160?

[clear igloo]

For me I look at my access point client list and I can see it

[ocean hare]

Also does it matter which pcie slot you install your adapter in

[clear igloo]

nope

[ocean hare]

Also I got a AXE5400 but it still comes as intel ax210 in my device manager

Is it supposed to be like that?

[clear igloo]

Well the AXE5400 is the router, not the NIC

[ocean hare]

My bad the package says AXE5400

[clear igloo]

for the NIC? Interesting

Ah, I see it now, MSI

lol, there is another TP-Link router that's the exact same model name

[ocean hare]

Yeah xd

Look

[clear igloo]

Yes, it basically uses the intel AX210 chip inside

[ocean hare]

TX75E mb

[clear igloo]

I love it when companies use the same model for multiple things 🙂

https://www.tp-link.com/us/deco-mesh-wifi/product-family/deco-xe75/

[ocean hare]

Yeah me to :)

[clear igloo]

But yah, that NIC is just using a AX210 chipset under the heatsink

[ocean hare]

Ah ok

I moved my adapter from top pcie to bottom pcie (idk why)

[clear igloo]

Could probably pop off the heatsink one day and toss in a BE200 for WiFi 7 one day if you wanted even, I'm certain it's just a PCIe to M.2 E-Key card

eh, so long as the antenna can sit on top of the PC it's fine 🙂

[ocean hare]

Yeah ^^

Also you got any good settings for the ax210?

That I can apply in properties?

[clear igloo]

Nothing outside of defaults really

It's pretty solid at stock thankfully 🙂

[ocean hare]

Okey

Also would there be any reason my old ax200 had full bars and my new ax210 only has 4?

[clear igloo]

AX200 used WiFi 6, so 5GHz only
The AX210 uses WiFi 6E so is probably connected on the 6GHz band and thus has slightly weaker signal at the same distance

[ocean hare]

Hmm interesting

Got any idea what I should try?

[clear igloo]

I wouldn't worry too much provided your speed and latency is as good or better than before

[ocean hare]

I mean I get less download speed of like 500mbps slower

[clear igloo]

hmmm, that's odd

500Mbps slower compared to what the AX200 got?

[ocean hare]

Yeah

My old ax200 got around 800mbps

Download speed

[clear igloo]

And you didn't select the 20MHz only option for the 6GHz band by accident did you?

[ocean hare]

I only average like 300 now witht the ax210

[ocean hare]

It was on auto

Then switched it to 20 and then back to auto

But still same speed overall even when I was default auto

[clear igloo]

hmmm, sounds like it's stuck on the 20MHz channel which doesn't make sense

[ocean hare]

Hmm idk what to do lol

[clear igloo]

Updated the driver from Intel's site since installing the AX210?

[ocean hare]

Yeah

Multiple times...

[clear igloo]

And the antenna isn't sitting behind a metal box right?

[ocean hare]

Nope

Sitting in the open hanging off the side off the wall cause it magnetic and facing the modem

Had the same problem with the other ax210 I bought

[clear igloo]

Go to Network and Internet, does Properties show Private Network show 6GHz under it at least?

[ocean hare]

Lemme look

[ocean hare]

Idk where to look xd

[clear igloo]

If that's your personal network I would at least try setting to private network

It shouldn't impact anything but I can see why it's on 5GHz only

What router do you have?

[ocean hare]

I got a hub 5

From virign media

Is either the 5 or 5x

[clear igloo]

Ah, well then it doesn't even have a 6GHz band =/

[ocean hare]

Ah

[clear igloo]

So 6E buys you nothing on the NIC over the AX200

[ocean hare]

but that shouldn't be much of a problem tho right?

[clear igloo]

Correct, it should be just as fast on 5GHz compared to the AX200 one

[ocean hare]

Hmm so Im wondering why is slower tho

[clear igloo]

Yah, same here, that doesn't make much sense
And antenna position shouldn't make this much of an impact in a residential setting either, not that large of one at least

[ocean hare]

yeah

I mean its fine the way it is

But its just a bumer its 500mbps slower

[clear igloo]

Yah, definitely

[ocean hare]

xd

[clear igloo]

Check your 5GHz settings

Make sure that's not set to 20MHz only or something

[ocean hare]

does it matter what I put MIMO power save mode on?

[clear igloo]

it shouldn't

[ocean hare]

should I turn off ultra high band 6ghz?

or doesn't matter?

[clear igloo]

nah, you can leave that just in case the hub 5 gets upgraded later to something with 6GHz 🙂

[ocean hare]

:)

Hopefully sometime this year

welp idk what to do xd

@clear igloo got any rec?

[clear igloo]

I'm racking my brain but nothing comes up sadly 😦

[ocean hare]

thats alright xd

[clear igloo]

You could try a full uninstall of the drivers for the card from Device Manager and see if that plus a reboot and then reinstall helps at all but other than that not much

[ocean hare]

Tried it already xd

[clear igloo]

Dang, yah then I'm out of ideas 😦

[ocean hare]

Thats alright

I was wondering you think I can replace the hub5 with a wifi router that has wifi 6e?

[clear igloo]

It might be possible, not sure if your ISP will let you swap it out but you could get an access point to do wifi and then just turn off wireless on the hub5

[ocean hare]

Oh got a link to were I could learn that?

[clear igloo]

Which part? The access point part or the hub 5 part?

[ocean hare]

Both? xD

[clear igloo]

The AP (access point) part is going to depend highly on what you go with, lots of different 6E and WiFi 7 models out there and each vendor is different
The Hub 5 should be pretty simple

[ocean hare]

if you wouldn't mind

[clear igloo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginMedia/comments/155288p/hub_5_as_switch_with_no_wifi/
For the Hub 5 disabling Wifi part

[ocean hare]

Hmm so I just unplug the fiber cable and plug it into the new Acess Point?

[clear igloo]

nah, you keep the Hub 5 but turn off WiFi and then plug the access point into the hub 5

[ocean hare]

Ahh okey and the access point is the new router I guess right?

[clear igloo]

pretty much but it only does wifi so will only have a single port + power

[ocean hare]

ahh okey

you've been great help @clear igloo ^^

Ill dm you if I got more questions if you don't mind

[clear igloo]

LTT had a good video going over the high level differences of AP vs Switch vs Router if you want to poke around, I think it was a TechQuickie 🙂

Go for it, no issues here 🙂

[ocean hare]

Perfect!! Ill take a look at that

[opal pagoda]

it is clearly compatabile

[clear igloo]

I would hope so although it's funny there are three products, two from TP-Link and one from MSI using the exact model name for wifi products

[opal pagoda]

well when product name makes sense
ax - wifi6
e -6ghz capability

• speed

[clear igloo]

True, didn't even think about that

At least that makes sense 🙂

[opal pagoda]

they could add a R or M (router or mesh) at the end and (C) at the end for client

[clear igloo]

Very true

[opal pagoda]

one even
*if you have a managed switch connected to it

[silent flax]

well, just look at LAN ports, if it has 2.5G it is one, 10G it is the other. mine is 2.5G

[silent flax]

i actually plugged another router behind the cable modem/router, but same thing

[carmine nymph]

Is there a way to test my connection for a few minutes for example to see if I have spikes etc?

[blazing karma]

Internet

Interesting

I’ll give it a try after I’m back from my holiday probably

[ocean hare]

I looked its the 10G one

[ocean hare]

Im think on a way on how to add a ethernet cable all the way up to my room does anyone know a good way?

[wanton spruce]

heyo, can anybody with a far router that uses a wifi card tell me if the internet works well despite the long range?

I do not mean a USB adapter, I strictly mean PCIe wifi cards

[shrewd robin]

A question for a case scenario. I have a 2 story office where each floor has its own vlan (vlan1 and vlan2, managed by a managed switch). Let's say I wanna build a simple storage server that can be accessed by both vlan1 and vlan2. Can I just connect both vlan1 and vlan2 to the server like this (vlan1 connect to eth1 and vlan2 connect to eth2)

Assuming my server has a dual ports NIC.

Or do you guys have a better solution than this?

Much appreciated for the help

[pseudo blade]

Create a subnetwork for the server and expose it to the other two subnetworks.

If the server's not located near the router (or you don't have spare interfaces), you'd probably end up setting up an extra VLAN for it

[tribal ether]

am i missing anything? https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/2QRSN8CJT4S9Z?ref_=wl_share

[shrewd robin]

Sorry for the late reply

[shrewd robin]

Arh I understand now

Thanks a lot

[shrewd robin]

But by exposing it, I can just do a normal static routing right?

[solemn kettle]

It depends how you have your network setup. Ideally you would say have either a router or layer3 switch/firewall.
You’d have gateways as you already do I.e
Vlan1 - 192.168.1.254/24
Vlan2 - 192.168.2.254/24
Vlan3 - 192.168.3.254/24

The your gateway device would know how to route there as they’re all connected routes you would just need to permit the traffic if isn’t already allowed.

[shrewd robin]

Arh wait, I just remembered that a single router can connect 2 dif network by default, so all I have to do is just permit or deny the traffic

[zinc badger]

Whats better for cervalince footage Seagate IronWolf 8TB NAS Internal HDD or Seagate SkyHawk AI 8TB Internal HDD

[shrewd robin]

So even if I use my earlier solution, all I need to do is just implement some rules like deny traffic from A to B vise versa, and allow traffic from A and B to server (assume this server is in a different subject called C)

[shrewd robin]

If you just want for surveillance purpose HDD, just get skyhawk

[zinc badger]

sweet as

thanks bro

[solemn kettle]

That’s right yeah, any L3 device already knows how to route to the networks it has interfaces on. Just set up a new network as you did the other two and permit traffic as needed.
If it’s stateful you’ll like only need to allow SMB or whatever file system traffic to it sourcing at the client networks. But if you have stateless ACL rules be sure to add them both directions.

[shrewd robin]

Aight thanks

Now all I gotta do is just managing the wan port

And I should have internet access

[pseudo blade]

Yes, as long as your router/routing device has an IP on each subnet (looks like you got answered pretty well already)

[shrewd robin]

Well, I am not working as a network technician or anything related to IT. I'm just someone working in another field lel

So I came here to seek for advise lol. But all sounds great.

[tribal sequoia]

man that sucked

i was working with someone on their mc-lagged core switches and one of the switches factory reset itself and they didn't have too intelligent of a design so they had devices that were only plugged into one or the other

fortiswitches in fortilink mode, never seen that one happen before honestly

[silent flax]

"factory reset itself" - that reminded me of the most absurd Cisco screwup ever

[clear igloo]

If you're using those cables with boots, you deserve it 😛

but yah, that was a mega stupid, haha

[tribal sequoia]

it technically didn't factory reset

it was more like... massaged itself into being unconfigured on the ports

it was still in mc-lag pair but it lost

port configs/trunks/mirrors

[silent flax]

it did factory reset - after next poweroff

[tribal sequoia]

no i mean my situation, i remember that cisco fuckup 😄

[silent flax]

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/636/fn63697.html

ah ok

[tribal sequoia]

i still don't know why

[lost lily]

my local IX ignores ICMP traffic and it drives me insane

[hollow marlin]

Not uncommon that IX' just drop ICMP

[tribal ether]

so i plan to get a nas, i would like 10gig connection to it. but my router only does 1. if i get a 10gig switch, could i get that fast of a connection between my nas and pc?

[mystic latch]

Pretty sure yes if they're on the same subnet. If you're doing VLANs, you'd need a L3 switch or a router with a 10Gig port if you want traffic at that speed going to different VLANs.

[tribal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[mystic latch]

Well it's probably safe to assume you aren't doing VLANs then lol

[tribal ether]

probably not

[north gale]

does anyone here use a tplink router by any chance?

[pseudo blade]

Just ask your question.

[north gale]

i was just wonderering if its something that you would recomend

im looking for a firefall but i cant use opnsense because of pppoe

[pseudo blade]

I wouldn't, but I think basically all consumer routers are trash

You should be able to configure pppoe on opnsense

[north gale]

they also make buisness solutions
https://www.tp-link.com/nl/business-networking/omada-router-wired-router/er707-m2/v1/

[north gale]

yea but the performence is poor because its limited to single core performance

[pseudo blade]

You can configure it to use multiple cores on freebsd and therefore *sense

[mystic latch]

This seems relevant

https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=27049.0

Also this

https://kb.protectli.com/kb/pppoe-and-opnsense/

[pseudo blade]

Yep same/similar OS tunables I was looking at

But CPU performance makes a huge difference, single thread on say a modern Ryzen embedded CPU is worlds apart from an 800mhz 2-core MIPS or Cortex-A53

[grizzled cove]

Is ~80mbps "normal" for an ipsec tunnel? Both sites have symmetrical gig connections

Surprised that's all I can get through the tunnel

[pseudo blade]

"Normal" is a funny word - depends on your hardware and configs

Could be normal, for a low-end router with no hardware acceleration

[grizzled cove]

It's a Fortigate 40C on one end and an SRX340 on the other end

@pseudo blade both (used) to be very good firewalls

[signal jay]

Considering doing a Raspberry Pi 4 Router setup at home using Ugreens USB 3.0 Ethernet adapters running Openwrt , any comments? Concerns? Pitfalls? Good idea? Bad Idea? Give it to me straight ^.^ thanks!

I have the Pi already, just need the Adapters (2Gb and 4Gb versions for the pi)

[opal pagoda]

I would avoid usb to ethernet adapters as much as possible

[peak cloak]

I use that one, it works pretty well

actually not that exact model but their 1Gig one

[signal jay]

I have a duel xeon 2U server that I debated on using. 2x 2.5gig ethernet ports- it feels like way overkill for it lol

Is there a way to run that 2U as a NAS/Router combo?

[opal pagoda]

Sure, use proxmox as hypervisor and vm for various services you want to run

[signal jay]

I’ll look into that as an option, sounds dope as hell. mind if I shoot you a DM sometime if I get stumped?

[opal pagoda]

you can also just ask here, lots of people are familiar with it

you can also check out hardware haven yt chanel, he has done some router builds with virtualisation

[signal jay]

Roger that, will do!

[silent flax]

huh https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/new-import-wizard-available-for-migrating-vmware-esxi-based-virtual-machines.144023/

[cobalt heath]

I’m looking to upgrade my WiFi router at home. What’s a good consumer grade router for under 200 usd and a 1gbit connection

[shrewd robin]

i think tp link is a good choice for that

[shrewd robin]

something like this is already more than sufficient for home users

[solemn kettle]

Depends if you just want WiFi or want a full router as well. You can pick up a ubiquity AC Pro for around that price and then turn off the WiFi on your ISP router

[obsidian cedar]

my download speed cooked?

[opal pagoda]

what size of home do you have?
for consumer grade stuff i would get deco x50 (one or more depending on house size, can be upgraded later with any of deco models)
for soho i would get er605 and one or more omada ap

[cobalt heath]

It’s a 940sq ft apartment. Pretty small

Currently I have a NETGEAR ax1800 that about 3 years old but I’m having a lot packet loss in games.

[opal pagoda]

try to connect your gaming pc directly to modem, no router in between, this could be isp issue

[cobalt heath]

The modem is about a month old. That’s why I think it’s the router. After I restart the router it’s good for a few hours but then the issues start again

[barren hound]

What can you do with a scammer's IP?

[ornate jungle]

Stare at it... menacingly... until it goes back into hiding.

[barren hound]

I see

[low pond]

Yeah, nothing useful honestly. As for location, perhaps accurate to the city, as for attacks, probably can ddos it to make their connection useless for a while. And even this is subjective and can change from case to case

But much of those scambaiters do use city location and others to actually find them so

[sly compass]

You guys know why i can’t access my chromecast and airplay while vpn home?

How do i create a firewall rule or change the VPN to drop me into the same network as your home subnet? In Opnsense?

[thick birch]

hey guys

What!!! The HELL is Going on With Gametracker.com

they up the one moment the next they down again

😢

[tribal ether]

can a diy nas run unifi protect?

[autumn ether]

Anyone any idea how to crimp awg28-32 thin af stranded wire? I can't find any RJ45/keystone jacks made for thin stranded cables. (My fault, I know, should've used a solid core 24awg wire, but it's too late now, it's in the wall and plastered in.

At this point I'm considering soldering them onto a solid core section of wire, and crimping that part.

[hearty lily]

Looking for a nas any suggestions

[silent flax]

well, it comes down to what you want:

1. prebuilt (Synology, QNAP etc) or self-built computer with one of the NAS OS (OpenMediaVault, TrueNAS Scale etc)
2. what budget
3. how many hard drives, in what RAID usage
4. what else do you want to have on it outside of basic file sharing
   and so on.

[hearty lily]

Probably a prebuild, only really going to use it for storage at home stop using Google and that stuff for backups I don't really care about accessing anything while not at home

This is the unit I was looking at Synology 4-Bay DiskStation DS923+

[meager meteor]

Will this work properly if I set up the Ubiquiti Networks UniFi Cloud Key Gen2 (UCK-G2) to be a Unify Protect

[shadow tinsel]

im looking for a uptime monitor that is physically installed on the machine I need it on to monitor game servers. I have 1 game that likes to randomly go offline and would like to get notified when that happens so i can restart the server

[lone sun]

🤷‍♂️ I don't know why, they work so well that they practically made actual RJ45 ports obsolete for laptops. HP EliteBook's don't even come with one anymore because the performance is practically identical anyway.

USB wifi adapters should be avoided however. They often don't measure up compared to PCIE adapters.

But who cares about wifi. Its often shitty anyway. 90% of the people I see crying about performance are using wifi. I sure as hell ain't going back to it after my horrid experience with it.

[fading fiber]

Is there any such thing as a wireless wifi extender?

[meager meteor]

update on prior plan

[tribal ether]

may i know why you changed to that, i want to get the unifi door bell

[meager meteor]

i was told that the cloud key in my old plan was for controll and you could not put storage on it and run it as a unify protect

[frosty stone]

no, you need a dream machine or nvr

a cloud key is just a controller

wait I'm very wrong, the CK+ can run protect

[opal pagoda]

Yeah true but when we are talking about routers it is a different story.

I have elitebook g10 and i have to carry a usb to Ethernet adapter around

But 99.9% of the time i am on wifi anyway since it doesn't suck as it is enterprise installation with wifi6e ap-s

[pseudo blade]

Not compatible with third-party cameras.

You'll need a software nvr or similar, cloud key's a nonstarter unless you use ubiquiti cameras

[meager meteor]

Damn, guess I have to find a other way, is there any security system you guys suggest where I host the server and can view it by an app

[pseudo blade]

Do you already own the IP cameras?

[meager meteor]

We have wireless 4 camera that can plug in were wanting 2 more cameras and a better system with a way better app

Plug in via ethernet

[hardy kestrel]

Is there a difference between using 5GHz WiFi and connecting my PC to a WiFi Mesh Node with an ethernet cable?

(Couldn't connect my PC to the router directly with an ethernet cable, it's impossible to route)

[opal pagoda]

connecting to mesh node with ethernet cable would mean 1 less wireless hop

most likely it will be better

[silent flax]

for basic NAS tasks, a $550 NAS with 4GB RAM and Ryzen 5 1600 is an insane overkill, tho with something like DS423 at $350-$380 you aren't saving much in cost.

[lone sun]

🤔 Ap-s?

[peak cloak]

synology

https://www.synology.com/en-us/products?product_line=dva_nvr

[near ice]

Any mc entra ID experts here? I'd like to talk about config and stuff

[thick minnow]

What are commons spots for coax cable outlets or whatever?

[worthy stag]

shinobi is also a good option

runs on basically any hardware

[clever seal]

Digital Watchdog. Just have to buy a one-time license per camera. May have to go through an integration company or something. You could also do the free version of Milestone (Milestone Essential I believe).

[worthy stag]

shinobi is free and open source

[peak cloak]

I run shinobi, but it can be a pain

if you want something that just works, synology or another NVR is a better choice

also has the CV hardware already

[tribal ether]

i’m looking to make a nas in the jonsbo case. that will also run jellyfin, and a minecraft server. any hardware i should change from this video? https://youtu.be/boKmZKTKXHc?si=676yptmZfIL06sMI

[meager meteor]

anything cheaper

600usd for cheapest option

[torn pewter]

So I want to run internet to my camper can I run an ethernet from the router in the house to the camper and to another router In the camper?

[west vortex]

i never want to terminate my own rj45 connectors again

yuck

[silent flax]

outdoor => i would go with optical connection simply because of lightning strikes

[worthy stag]

fiber is a no-brainer for networking stuff outdoor

you can get all the required stuff pretty cheap

[thick minnow]

Hey I have a fibre connection from the wall, but I don't have a modem with sfp ports, what should I do?

[opal pagoda]

most likely you need a ont

it should be provided to you by your isp

[worthy stag]

you dont need a traditonal modem with fiber

you can use the ISP provided router, or use your own

[thick minnow]

But I thought you needed a modem to communicate to the ISP?

[worthy stag]

not really, modem is just the word used for DSL or cable

"modulator" for analog signals

for fiber you use SFP(+) modules

[thick minnow]

I arranged to exclude that as I have a 24 port switch with 2 sfp ports

So there is a pair of fibre nodes sticking out of my wall

[worthy stag]

assuming you have GPON, you can get a matching SFP and plug it directly into your router

but compatibility depends on your ISP

[thick minnow]

I'm pretty sure nbn is GPON

[worthy stag]

do you want to use your ISP's router or your own?

[thick minnow]

So I can just get a converter and plug it into the sfp port on my router

I don't like isps

I'm getting a nice ubiquiti router

[worthy stag]

no, you cant just put it into any SFP module

you need a special one

[thick minnow]

Oh

[worthy stag]

okay, theres a discord server that you'll probably be interested in about this topic

[thick minnow]

It's fine

[worthy stag]

because its really not simple to get it to work with a lot of ISPs

[thick minnow]

What special sfp converter do I need

[worthy stag]

you need a matching SFP

yeah, thats the hard part

a lot of ISPs put special protections

https://discord.com/servers/8311-886329492438671420

and be careful with the difference between APC and UPC

APC - angled, used mostly by GPON
UPC - most other internal fiber

they are not compatible and will probably break if you try to connect it

[thick minnow]

I think I might just call an nbn technician and get him to sort it out

Thanks for your help though

[worthy stag]

most likely they will not help you with your own router, BTW

[thick minnow]

It's best if I get my isp technician to answer these questions he probably has done alot of enterprise stuff similar to me

[worthy stag]

they will want you to buy their stuff

[thick minnow]

Although it's a bit weird having direct fibre in a home

Well NBN is not an isp

They are an infrastructure company

They maintain the fibre connections they don't do internet

They hooked up my fibre

In fact it's not normal for fibre to be put through the hole it should be an ethernet cable but I arranged it to be dual node fibre

But I will still have a chat with both see what they think

Nbn is one hell of a shitstorm I must say

[worthy stag]

alright, gl

[thick minnow]

Nbn only managed to get fibre to like 5% of the country

Only like 0.5% is actually to the box

Rest is a weird fucking hybrid coaxial shit which gets fucked when it rains

Thanks BTW

[raven forge]

If you have a internet provider in the US, try rebooting your modem. The FCC changed the definition of broadband a couple weeks ago, in particular they bumped up the minimum upload speed to be qualified as broadband. Multiple carriers are bumping up their uploads (and even downloads) to stay within compliance. Xfinity bumped both my download and upload speeds.

[frosty stone]

@thick minnow putting a gpon sfp module into your router isn't going to just work, and the ISP is very unlikely to configure it to work for you.

You will always be stuck with the provided ONT

[cerulean pulsar]

I'm troubleshooting some inter vlan issues between VMs. I've seen instances when I don't get a response at all on a ping, and in others I get "destination port unreachable" from the default gateway. Assuming everything is configured ok locally (on src/dst), does the latter typically indicate a missing firewall rule?

[opal pagoda]

https://youtu.be/Hi7JMTojT-4
it is hard avoiding isp ont

[opal pagoda]

most likely firewall issue or no route

check your zone firewall for blocked connection

[thorn yew]

Does anyone here know of a good 802.3bt/POE++ (~60 watts/port) switch or injector? I need at a minimum 24 ports.

With at least 50W on each port

[opal pagoda]

what is your budget?

[thorn yew]

~$500

if possible

Trying to hook up Unifi Access doors. I have 24 doors currently, and 20 of them just about overloads the Ubiquiti 48 port POE switch I have.

And with the 20 I have, if to many are triggered anywhere near simultainously, it can reset the switch's power supply

[torn pewter]

What's optical connection?

[opal pagoda]

https://www.fs.com/products/169149.html
possibly this but poe budget is still 3-4x smaller than your requirements

[thorn yew]

That might do it.

[thorn yew]

Well, the average power draw is around 10-15 watts for the dorr access hubs, so that ain't to bad in terms of power budget.

Better than the ~185 Watts the switch we are currently using has.

[opal pagoda]

it adds up fast

[thorn yew]

Well 370 / 24 = ~16W

Which is about the average

[opal pagoda]

i would still have a couple of them connected to your old switch

[thorn yew]

And we've been surviving off of 100w less than that switch with 20 plugged in

probably

[opal pagoda]

worst case get 2 of those switches

[opal pagoda]

i was wrong, that switch only has 2x of poe++ ports

[thorn yew]

Nooo

[opal pagoda]

rest are poe+

[thorn yew]

Yup. Same issue I keep ruinning into.

[opal pagoda]

ubiquiti access controll should really have a internal supercapacitor and they should have made it ran on just poe+

big box of adapters time

[thorn yew]

Ohh boy

[pine sage]

i am thinking of making a nas, i have an old hp elite desk with an i5 3740 that only has 2 harddisk bays.

i also have an fx 4300 which can support to 10 3.5 inch bays
im not sure which machine is better for the task of using a NAS as an alternitive to a NAS

[thorn yew]

The i5 is faster, by at least half.

I'd almost say to swap the mainboards if possible

use the other chassis

[pine sage]

i cant ones a prebuilt

really the i5 is DOUBLE the speed wow

[thorn yew]

Well, 50% faster than the FX

[pine sage]

i mean i can upgrade the fx4300 for rather cheap to a 6300

[thorn yew]

Well, that does get you to only 15% slower than the i5

Which is the pre-built? i5 or FX?

[pine sage]

the i5

the fx is an ibuypower pc i found on the road

it had a an r7 360 inside

[thorn yew]

Depending on how the mainboard in the pre-built is designed, you might still be able to use it in a regular case

[pine sage]

its a desktop ssf case

[thorn yew]

What model?

[pine sage]

probably not - id love to get something small

[pine sage]

idr elite desk 830?

[thorn yew]

Ohhh those

yeah nvm

Is the processor removable?

[pine sage]

yes

i have 8tb in that machine rn

im not sure if the CPU is good enough to act as a google cloud storage alterntivie

[thorn yew]

Well, for less than $50 on ebay you can get a motherboard that supports the i5, and use that in the ibuypower case

[pine sage]

i like the smallness of this case

[thorn yew]

Ahh you want to use the smaller case if possible.

Missed that.

[pine sage]

heres the thing

[opal pagoda]

yes

[pine sage]

i have a 486 physical media server thats also on my network, it can read cds and dvds and usb 2, i want to stack these machines on top of one another

[opal pagoda]

i am running my home server on Intel N2930 mini pc

[pine sage]

what i really need is a tiny rack

[thorn yew]

Btw, I would HIGHLY recommend Immich as a Google Photos alternative.

Been using it for a while, it works pretty well

[pine sage]

t is that

what is that

[thorn yew]

A self-hosted version of Google Photos

effectively

[pine sage]

fantastic

[thorn yew]

https://immich.app/

Runs in Docker, if you've ever used that

[opal pagoda]

what are your internet speeds?

[pine sage]

i dont remember let me chec

[thorn yew]

He'd be technically downloading from his phone when on the go, so he wouldn't need symmetrical.

[opal pagoda]

i know

[pine sage]

the goal is that this server would be used among all of my devices, all documents and programming projects, photos from my phone etc

[thorn yew]

Immich would handle the photos/vids no problem

[pine sage]

how many services do i need to host on one server

immich, a smb server ?

[thorn yew]

I would reccomend something like UnRAID as the OS, as it does the SMB and user management for you, and has Docker built right in.

[pine sage]

i was thinking of doing truenas

[thorn yew]

It does cost a little right up front, as they do want to be paid for their work.

[opal pagoda]

i personaly run casaos on top of debian

[pine sage]

im familiar with the unix enviroment

[thorn yew]

Oh! I forgot about CasaOS!

[pine sage]

what would be the issue with truenas core

[thorn yew]

Yes, CasaOS is nice. And free.

[thorn yew]

Nothing

afaik

[opal pagoda]

and resource efficient

you can even run casaos on top of openmediavault

[thorn yew]

Nice

[opal pagoda]

just some slight config changes in openmediavault web interface

[silent flax]

something like this (or a network device with SFP device on both sides) to convert RJ45 into SFP

[silent flax]

and then an optical cable between them. For outdoors use you want one meant for that, that is with better protection from elements

like this

[silent flax]

inside that cable you have n optical fiber, which is non=conductive (as it is pretty much just a glass to transfer the laser signal from one end to the other), thus it won't conduct lightning cable like normal metallic cable would do. Thus it is safer for outdoor network connections

[tribal ether]

does AMD CPU work with jellyfin?

[ornate jungle]

Yes, you can install Jellyfin onto a computer that has an AMD CPU. If you're asking about Transcoding support, Jellyfin has documentation on this feature.
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/administration/hardware-acceleration/amd/

[smoky totem]

For those who watched that cloud storage video linus made the other day, does anyone have a suggestion(something similar, not a entire computer) of a better cpu than the one in I can use? I need something slightly better that can support 4k

[pine sage]

What kinda gpu do you need for something like this - I have an old r7 360 that I don't need

[ornate jungle]

No idea. I run Jellyfin on my Synology DS918+ NAS using Intel Quick Sync video. It "just works" when enabled in the settings.

[thick minnow]

Hey All.

[sly compass]

I use an old 1080ti and it works alright

[pine sage]

"Alright" a 1080ti would be the highest end card I own

[silent flax]

first you need to figure out if you need live transcoding at all

if not, then you could just skip it for now and later grab something cheap with good encoder?

[signal jay]

Can I use a VPN router as just a regular router?

[cerulean pulsar]

Does anyone work with tailscale? I'm having an issue where I want two VMs on different VLANs to communicate over their private IPs rather than tailscale. The appropriate FW rules are in place on my FW, however after doing a tcpdump I can see packets are going out the tailscale interface/IP as the source rather than my eth0 interface which has a local IP assigned. Any idea how to fix? Looks like an asymmetric routing issue.

[cerulean pulsar]

Alright, was able to figure out my issue. Turns out it has to do with routing prioritization introduced by tailscale. I can see the priority using ip rule show. To fix I had to add the specific route I wanted like so and then persist the configuration changes:
ip rule add to 192.168.2.0/24 priority 2500 lookup main. That cause this route to have a higher priority (2500) than the tailscale rules (5200-5500). That did the trick.

[pine sage]

I wanted to do a Plex server

[silent flax]

Same thing, most devices can direct stream, transcoding is needed only for unsupported formats (device which can't handle hevc when source file is in hevc for example)

[jolly crater]

I use a p1000, it's limited in the number of streams but I got a good deal on it

[jolly crater]

Plex also transcodes for most subtitles and HDR and dolby audio non-support

[meager ginkgo]

Should be able to. What model/brand?

VPN router usually just means it has VPN capability

[mossy gate]

Unifi Gateway Max is out

[silent flax]

bundled stuff with China products is never ceasing to amaze me

bought a dual i226v NIC... they added a small screwdriver and a screw for some reason 🤷‍♂️

meanwhile the "manual says" insert the bundled mini CD, which isn't bundled 😄

[tough leaf]

what am i looking for when looking to buy a new ethernet cable
cat 8, anything else

[lunar spade]

I noticed that doing a Hotspot over Wifi doesn’t work unless I have Bluetooth enabled, why is that? I know that the connection is using Wifi, because using a Bluetooth PAN hotspot only gives 300kbps compared to >5mbs over a Wifi hotspot

[sly compass]

Why not just go 10gbit? Same price, a bit more electric but still

[sly compass]

I haven’t seen any long cat 8.1 cabels yet

[silent flax]

1. cause my network is 2.5 gigabit already and 10GB RJ45 networking is expensive as hell
2. i needed dual RJ45 due wiring in my house

[sly compass]

An cat5e could do 40gbit, just needs to be max 2-5meter long

[silent flax]

cat 8 is mostly pointless, Cat5e will do 10 gigabit on short distances, Cat6 and 6a on long distances. Cat8 is for 25-40 gigabit ethernet which doesn't exist really

[sly compass]

I just bought two x540 with dual ports for 70eu shipped and delivered. They work great

[silent flax]

sure, but that is just one side of the equation. You need a 10 gigabit switch on other side too, as X540 won't do 2.5 gigabit

(yes, i have one X540 in my server, this is for a "router")

[sly compass]

I don’t agree if you where to wire a house. That would be great for future proofing. But you should install fiber instead now. Ofc power to each place to

[silent flax]

Cat6 metallic cables were installed in this apartment a decade ago

i ain't rewiring with fiber anytime soon

[sly compass]

That is true, that’s why i bought two. One for my opnsense server then another for my work/gaming pc. 10gbit house. Then ofc switch will set you back. But that’s if you want more clients

[silent flax]

i have 10 gigabit from server to the switch, which then divides it to 2.5 gigabit everywhere else. Router has 1 gigabit cable internet via 2.5 gigabit port, this card will make both sides of the router to be 2.5 gigabit. No need for 10 gigabit there

[sly compass]

Same here, it’s just cat 6. But i was worried since it somewhere around 20-30 meter to my router. That could cause problems with 10gbit

[silent flax]

and switch will set you back a LOT. 8xRJ45 all 10 Gigabit switches are starting around $350-$400.

[sly compass]

But i guess it alright, haven’t fixed 10gbit wan yet

[sly compass]

It’s only money 🥸 Nah but you could go rj45 to sfp. Then i would have 10gbit wan and sfp+ or whatever to other things

Just for the wan

I mean it isn’t ideal

But 10gbit go brrrr

Still feel like you missing out

[winter mortar]

Hey guys, I'm being searching around and I'm been thinking of doing some media center. I was seeing a NAS with that capability, but they're super expensive, then I was considering a Raspberry Pi 5 with 8gb for it. Whats your opinion?

[silent flax]

internet is 1 gigabit. switch is 2.5 gigabit. Where am i missing out ?
Server is 10 gigabit to a 8x2.5G+1x10G switch. Most stuff server does is either serving media (where 2.5 gigabit on client is still overkill) or downloading from internet (which is capped to gigabit anyway). Yes, copying to the server is limited to sad 250MB/s on network level from single client... not like my spinning hard drives can handle even that 😄

[silent flax]

get a cheap older PC with enough storage space (as in 3.5" hard drive bays), if you need transcoding, then add a 1650 Super or something better, done. NAS is pointless for most, Pi is too limiting on storage interface side

[winter mortar]

Hm, I do have a older rog laptop which I maybe could use for that yes

[silent flax]

something like a 6th or 7th gen i3/i5 could be low power enough. Or a laptop, if you don't mind being limited to single 2.5" drive and/or USB drives

[winter mortar]

It has a GTX 1650, i7 9xxx (cant recall model), I can get some 1Tb nvme ssd gen3 for it (currently has 500gb gen4) and I could install some Linux distro with plex media server no?

[mystic latch]

Random thought, are there any APs that accept fiber as a connection?

[winter mortar]

Piracy aside, my aim is to have the files in that PC to stream to my other devices, tv, laptop, etc

[silent flax]

yes. Or OpenMediaVault + docker + Plex in docker

[silent flax]

and then some USB storage box for 3.5" 16-18TB hard drive 🙂

[winter mortar]

Oh thanks thats a good suggestion!

[mystic latch]

Intel quicksync helps a lot with trancoding if one has one of their relatively newer CPUs.

[silent flax]

i mean if you have an older unused hardware, it is always a good idea to reuse it if you can. I use a Ivy Bridge system for router, another for backup NAS

[winter mortar]

I have 2 1TB ones laying around, may use them to do a test flight with it

[silent flax]

well yes, but the GPU side was more for situation when he would have something like 2nd to 4th gen stuff

[winter mortar]

Im guesing the raspberry pi would struggle with the 4k stuff no?

[silent flax]

for transcoding certainly

[winter mortar]

Thank you, with your tips I can do it without spending more money

[mystic latch]

If you have good clients that can leverage a lot of formats like a shield or newer fire tv then a Pi would honestly be fine since it wouldn't have to transcode

[winter mortar]

my clients would be an Android TV box, maybe a Samsung S24 and an iPhone 15 (or iPad), or of course the laptops

most times would be using the android tv box which I imagine is very good on that side of things

[mystic latch]

Depends on the specific box

[silent flax]

Pi 5 at least has two USB 3 ports and one 2.0 x1 slot for NVMe, but meh, if he can reuse already purchased HW

[mystic latch]

Yea

[winter mortar]

Yeah this laptop is mostly stopped, for gaming isn't already a good one, the gtx1650 gets demolished by my Macbook m1 max even in crossover so i just stopped using it alltogether.

now its just picking dust so Its good I could find a good use for it before it turns into ewaste

[mystic latch]

I would suggest giving jellyfin a try if you don't already have a plex subscription. Plex paywalls transcoding, jellyfin does not.

[winter mortar]

I'm just having a question. Which media player i could use to watch the stuff. Eg if I use Plex I must use plex player as well right?

[mystic latch]

Plex is more polished, but I haven't been a fan of their business direction for a while.

[mystic latch]

Correct.

[winter mortar]

Hm ok I was checking around. I will maybe try installing Ubuntu in it, jellybin server and give it a try

Thank you for your time, helped a lot!

[silent flax]

their own client or usually they also provide a DLNA server, so any DLNA client

but obviously you lose part of functionality

[mystic latch]

I've never tried watching via DLNA

[winter mortar]

I was jecking this one and apparently supports all of the devices i own

[mystic latch]

Yea jellyfin has pretty good client support

[silent flax]

usually the limiting factor is WebOS support. But there is even (somewhat limited) Kodi now for WebOS, so...

everyone has clients for normal computer OS, Android TV, Tizen, Android, iOS.

if you are missing clients then it is WebOS and game consoles

but even Xbox has Jellyfin and plex clients https://www.microsoft.com/sk-sk/p/jellyfin/9p2drtg62qf8 & https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9NBLGGH3ZZVF

[winter mortar]

In my case they have a client available on Google Play for my TV Box so its pretty good

[silent flax]

i just wish i didn't hate the UI of Jellyfin that much 😄

[winter mortar]

After using Disney Plus and Hbo Max can't say there's any media UI worse

[mystic latch]

One could use it with kodi

[silent flax]

i mean it was something like it combined multiple different libraries under movies or something like that last time i tried it

[mystic latch]

Combining is currently optional and opt-in with JF

[silent flax]

that and slow indexing with NFO files in both emby and jellyfin was my main issues i think. But it was few months ago i tried jellyfin last time

[winter mortar]

Maybe they improved that?

[silent flax]

maybe, but i am not going to test jellyfin every month just to try if they fixed it; i have plex lifetime anyway

[mystic latch]

I can't say I've had much of an issue with indexing personally. But hardware can dictate that a lot

[silent flax]

Threadripper 2950x, 128GB RAM, X399 Taichi, NVMe for docker images, spinning rust for media

[mystic latch]

Welp. Dunno what to tell you then lol. Maybe it was some setting or something

[silent flax]

https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-solved-first-time-setup-slow-scanning-screen-load-times probably doing those chapter images as this guy had, which is probably enabled by default

[opal pagoda]

cat6a max for consumers

that fake "cat 8" cable is probably a cat5e

[tough leaf]

how do i know if its cat8 then

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ethernet-Gigabit-Braided-Network-Shielded/dp/B092S7MKB7/

[prime flume]

If you mean, really actually knowing if it's a cat8 or not
You probably need to rent a fluke cable tester

[tough leaf]

what are some trusted cat 7/8 cables i can get then

[vernal oak]

would this be the right channel to ask questions about getting a NAS for personal use?

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll

[mystic latch]

here or linux. There's not really a perfect self-hosting channel

Could also probably go in one of the tech chats

[vernal oak]

Alright cool, I'll ask here. Thanks!

The UGreen NAS is looking particularly enticing to me. My question is this. If I opt for a 4 drive model, and go with a Raid 1 config.

Assuming all drives are the same, raid 1 would mean my max capacity is the capacity of a singular drive, and that I can have 3 of 4 drives fail without loss of data. Am I understanding that correctly?

[silent flax]

RAID 1 above 2 drives doesn't make much sense, you might want RAID 10 with 4 drives.

but yes, technically 4 drive RAID would be just 4 copies of same data

[vernal oak]

My understanding of raid 10 is that if I lose 2 drives, and they're in different subsets, I'd lose data

[silent flax]

you could lose the whole drive on both left and right half, and you would still have a RAID0 of two degraded RAID1 arrays

[vernal oak]

So if I lose 2 on the same side, then I'd lose data

[silent flax]

yes, then you lose data. But that would be true for a 2 drive RAID1 as well

[vernal oak]

Right, so my biggest concern is data loss

Total capacity is not a huge concern for me my largest concern is absolutely protecting the data

I don't mind a four drive raid 1 if it means that I'm definitely not going to lose data.

[silent flax]

but if your concern is data loss, then you are barking at the wrong tree and you shouldn't really deal with RAID1 with 3 or more drives, and instead figure out backup & offsite backup strategy

if you have a fire/earthquake/other catastrophe, single drive or 4 way RAID 1 makes no difference, your drives and data are toast. What saves you are offsite backups

[vernal oak]

I suppose

[silent flax]

or not even something like that, it's enough to have EVGA send you a replacement power supply with different pinout /s

[vernal oak]

I didn't really think about the physical NAS being damaged. However I have had drives fail on me without any physical damage.

I had a Seagate drive just, die

Less than 2 years old

Never physically damaged, boom one day completely dead.

All data completely lost

Although, that has now made me consider where a NAS would be placed. Something I hadn't previously considered.

[silent flax]

but you might consider instead gettings two cheaper 2 bay NAS (if you don't need the extra features of the ugreen one), split the 4 drives between them, move one offsite, automatically backup from one to other over internet

[vernal oak]

That seems like a good idea. I just don't know where I would put a different NAS.

I could consider trying to leave one with my parents. But God forbid anything happen with it, I'd be unable to get to it

[silent flax]

well, that is your typical problem. How much data are we talking about ? I guess services with monthly fees are out of the question ?

like yes, family/friend is a good option if you are in good terms with them and they agree

it really comes down to how important that data is. For example if you have Office 365, you already have 1TB of cloud storage already paid, so you could sync/backup your files there (or to any other supported backend), for example using https://rclone.org/

[vernal oak]

Presently not a lot of data. Maybe maybe a terabyte or two.

I have maybe a couple hundred gigabytes worth of videos. And then another couple tens of gigabytes of photos

And then no other particularly large files

[silent flax]

or you can have 2TB from Google Drive for 10 euros a month. It all comes down to how much are you willing to spend/how much is it worth to you

in the end, it's up to you, but i recommend considering offsite or cloud backup if the data is that important, and then follow hardware and service purchases from there

[vernal oak]

I suppose. I just prefer the idea of spending a larger sum now, overpaying small sums infinitely

I'm attracted to the idea of a NAS, because I would still be in possession of physical drives with the data on it

[silent flax]

then you need to figure out how to do offsite backup. If losing some shorter timeframe (like a week of data) is OK yo you in case of catastrophic situation, you could just do the dual NAS solution and plug in the second NAS and perform synchronization once a week, then take it to some offsite location.

or if losing the NAS chasis itself is also OK (usually these boxes just do mdadm RAID + possibly LVM), you could get a NAS with hotswap bays, and just once a week plug in the other set of drives, perform synchronization, after it is done safely pull the drives and take only the drives to a safe location

i mean putting away two hard drives to a storage locker/locked desk at work is probably simpler than hauling a whole NAS every week 🙂

[vernal oak]

That's actually a really good idea. I wouldn't mind buying 2 spare drives, manually syncing them every week or so, and storing them in like a fireproof safe

[silent flax]

i mean you would have same HW as your original idea, but the other two drives would be spare cold copies in that safe. Of course one needs to see what is the best software solution for this, but i haven't researched this topic to be fair

but in theory, a simple rsync command should be all it takes

[vernal oak]

HW?

[silent flax]

hardware

NAS + hard drives

[vernal oak]

Ah yes

At that point, a 2 bay NAS, with 2 spares might be viable

[silent flax]

so you would have your 4 bay NAS, your 4 hard drives, but only 2 would be permanently connected; the other two would be in safe, take them out, mount them, run rsync, when finished, unmount the drive, put back in safe

[vernal oak]

Also not a bad idea

[silent flax]

well yes, but it comes down to comfort, if you prefer to do it via USB or hotswap

[vernal oak]

Hot swap would be easier

[silent flax]

you could even rotate the two backups so you would have at worst a week and 2 week old copies, in case of something like crypto malware which encrypts your files

[vernal oak]

I'm under the impression, and I don't know this for certain, but it seems like if I get the ugreen and configure it for raid 1, a new drive should sync automatically.

[silent flax]

well, USB is easy too 🙂

i mean something like this connected to your NAS via USB 3.0

[vernal oak]

A 2 bay, and one of those it's probably cheaper than the 4 bay

[silent flax]

but RAID1 works in a way that it automatically copies files to both drives connected; so it is not really working for a hard drive which you remove for a week, it would need to do a full resync every week with that drive.

That is why i said you could just have a normal ext4 (or whatever filesystem) hard drive via USB, run rsync from 2-drive RAID1 array to that USB hard drive, when it finishes, unmount the hard drive, move to safe

i mean Synology has/had even something like https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM/help/USBCopy/usbcopy_general?version=7

[vernal oak]

I'm not familiar with rsync but I think I understand

[silent flax]

so Synology could even do it for you in their NAS system, if you don't mind using their product and closed-ish ecosystem

[vernal oak]

I'd have to look into it. Tbh the only real research I've gone is on the ugreen system because it seems intuitive

I'm not the most tech savvy person

I appreciate your help so far.

[silent flax]

Synology is rather nice, simple

[silent flax]

or even hyper backuip, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3yoSCJV1pA

[vernal oak]

I will say, if synching drives on the ugreen is as simple as plugging in a drive and letting it work, I think running a 4 bay, with 2 in storage elsewhere and then backing up on a schedule would be the best solution for me

[silent flax]

that is a Synology specific software tho

depending on how much else you want from the NAS (what other functionality outside of file sharing and these backups) you could go with cheapest 2 bay Synology + one external USB hotswap drive adapter. See the video above

[silent flax]

with ugreen nobody knows yet, as they are a kickstarter product launching sometime later. You can buy the Synology products with the backup solution above any time now. Sure, you might need to manually trigger the task, but oh well

[vernal oak]

Does the Synology stuff have an app where I'd easily be able to access the data from my phone?

A goal for me is to be able to move stuff I don't usually need off my phone, and onto a NAS, but still being able to "go get it" should I need it

[silent flax]

https://www.synology.com/en-global/dsm/feature/drive/app ?

[glad fiber]

Do I need to set a channel width?

[vernal oak]

That looks great. Thanks for pointing me this direction, I'll do my own research on it and see if it works for me

[silent flax]

i mean something like https://www.synology.com/en-global/products/DS223j is sub-200 euros/dollars. Yes, it uses an ARM CPU and has only 1GB RAM, but if you don't plan to run Docker containers on it, and really want just to do file sharing/backup stuff from it, it will do just fine, i used DS216j for some time.

(the drawback is that the drives are not hotswap, you have to screw them in)

[silent flax]

or even https://www.synology.com/en-global/products/DS223 ... https://youtu.be/ja7HEuMZ4iA?t=627

(because of that button)

that one is $250 tho

but i would just go with the DS223j and set it to run the backup on USB mount (or manually start it through web UI ) and call it a day

the DS223 is hotswap tho, so it is down to what you prefer

(just watch the video)

[vernal oak]

I appreciate yyou taking the time to help!

[silent flax]

gigabit network might be the biggest drawback imo

[vernal oak]

I will say, the more research I'm doing, the better Raid 5 sounds

Sorry, raid 10

[tribal sequoia]

raid 10 is great

it's just... costly for your storage

[silent flax]

yeah, for the needs GT described i would go with DS223j (have to screw in hard drives) or DS223 (hotswap drives, one more USB port and USB copy button, but also $60 or over 30% more expensive), one single drive USB hotswap bay or adapter and three or four hard drives.
Put two in the DS223j/DS223, set up USB Copy or Hyperbackup in Synology UI and bring one or other hard drive from the storage once a while, initiate the task in Synology NAS (via web UI or physical button), let it finish, remove the hard drive, put it in storage.

that way he gets both the safety of single hard drive failure without loss of uptime (in case of DS223; with DS223j he has to unscrew the hard drive, so some downtime is needed) and safety of data in case of catastrophic failure/other problems.

[vernal oak]

So if I were to do raid 10, would I need 2 backup drives?

To store elsewhere that is

[silent flax]

for RAID10, you need a 4 bay NAS, which makes it a much more expensive thing right away

and well, you can have just one big backup drive

so if you have 4x2TB for example in RAID10, that gives you 4TB space; so offsite single backup drive could be a single 4TB drive

[south walrus]

The best router in the world is

[vernal oak]

I did forget to consider that it could be a singular bigger drive

This is why I like asking questions and bouncing ideas off of other people

Glad I came here to ask

[silent flax]

the 2 drives was meant for the backup strategy where you have one week old and one 2 week old backup right before you run the new backup

like when people had daily backups on tapes

so you would always overwrite/update the tape for that day, and if you needed to return more than one day, you had 6-7 backups available. Similarly you could have a single backup, or multiple with different distance to current date. But for a home user, single offsite backup is probably fine.

[silent flax]

hell, you could get a single 16TB drive and store multiple versions of files (i think both hyper backup and usb copy offers that option), so you would have multiple versions of files on a single offsite backup, obviously it wouldn't be a 1:1 copy of the drives in the NAS because of being multiple copies on signle drive, but close enough

[junior hamlet]

Question current gaming routers is there any next to perfect as in no loss in signal strength compared to wired ie if I get a 1gb internet will I get 1 gb in my wireless

[peak cloak]

no

[quaint brook]

im moving soon and ive never moved while owning servers/homelab before
as long as my router stays the same once everything is plugged back in it should just fire up and run like normal?
ive got a plex server and a seedbox

and a nas

[peak cloak]

depends

your public IP will change

[silent flax]

and non-static DHCP leases will also change

[crisp thorn]

if you moved you 99% of the time wont get the same ip

unless you had actually bought a static ip from your isp and they can still provide service in new location

[quaint brook]

@crisp thorn @silent flax @peak cloak most of my stuff is local network anyway. the only thing that gets used remote is plex which will be straight forward to fix if it doesnt work
my local ips wont change right

[peak cloak]

plan on them changing, unless you setup static IPs which I don't recommend, or DHCP reservation

[tribal ether]

someone bought this for me, would this work with pass through plugs?

[peak cloak]

some may change, some may not

[peak cloak]

most crimpers work with pass through, they just don't cut the wires off

I used to cut them manually later an exacto..

[tribal ether]

so what does a crimper do? thought they just cut the ends off

[silent flax]

didn't they put the pin blades into the wiress and set in the plastic ?

"primary utility is to do the actual 'crimping' part of compressing/crimping the tiny gold pins in the RJ45 connector onto the ethernet cables"

[peak cloak]

no, it pushes the pins into the wire and the plastic onto the sleeve to hold it on

[steady pagoda]

Could someone help me set up my pi hole
I got no idea where to begin with seting a static ip

[tribal ether]

my interior walls have insolation🥲

[tribal ether]

so looked what a vlan is. and I want to have a guest network, but I don't want them connecting to the Nas, so it'll be fine?

[compact void]

Hello how are you

I have a question

I want to have access to my drive from a different pc from a different location

And i cant access the router

[silent flax]

well RIP, it seems either OpenWRT, the Linux intel driver or the old Ivy Bridge hardware hates the i226v cards. Both a single and dual port card "failed" in the system i use as a router. By failed i mean the card hangs within a minute, and then lspci or ethtool on it will just hang forever on CLI.

[silent flax]

teamviewer or other similar solution with someone acting as intermedite point between you two. But that requires you to be present at the other machine first, plus it will be probably slow.

[mystic latch]

Most likely yes. Depends on what router you're using. There's some wild variety in consumer wifi router quality. But if you're using something like OPNsense or OpenWRT then yes for sure if you set the firewall rules correctly.

[junior hamlet]

Exactly what I said to friend there is no way, thank you

What is best router available for gaming mostly high end titles in 4K max 1gb download ?

[west vortex]

Shinyyyyyy

[amber lark]

Theres a new switch that has built in RGB if you want to get one lmao

If you saw the video that ltt covered

[west vortex]

Look closely

[amber lark]

Oh wait, is that it?!?!?!?

😮

[west vortex]

[amber lark]

Pog

That's very clean

[west vortex]

It really is useful. I have it set to show connected device negotiated speeds and at a glance I can tell if it's proper

[amber lark]

Hell yeah, I love that it shows active ports so it makes trouble shooting so much easier

How much did you get it for

[west vortex]

Yuuuup. Though, I would like the option to turn on the lights to whatever I want regardless. I got it new from UI for $800 plus tax + shipping. So just under $900 total I think.

[amber lark]

Pog

Now we need rgb server chassis

[amber lark]

It's quite clean lol

I don't have a rack or rack servers, I have 2 desktop servers

I have a WIP nas and a compute server

This is the nas, the Hdds are temporary and the cables are like that due to the case not allowing for cable management

[west vortex]

Thanks. WIP obviously. More to come to do what I want and make it cleaner

[amber lark]

This is the compute server

[amber lark]

Yup, hope it goes smoothly for you lmao

[west vortex]

Ya aside from one of my Rpi's temporarily becoming useless (micro USB port literally broke off, so I have to get a PoE hat for them), it's been smooth sailing so far.

[amber lark]

I'm working on 10gig networking rn

[west vortex]

Oooh

[amber lark]

Pog

[west vortex]

Big e-peen

[amber lark]

The nas and my main pc has 10gig rn

The nas has gigabit, 2.5 and 10gig while my main pc has 2.5 and 10gig

[west vortex]

I'm confident my network can do 10gig since it's all cat6a, but the switch supports 2.5gbit max on only a few ports

I have 10gig SFP+

[amber lark]

You can get some cheap 10gig switch's that allows 2.5gig too.

QNAP QSW-2104-2T-A-US 6-Port 10GbE & 2.5GbE Plug & Play unmanaged Network Switch For Desktop https://a.co/d/2Z948my

[west vortex]

Ya, not needed right now. I only have 1gig internet and I don't see my ISP going faster any time soon

[amber lark]

I'm planning to cluster my 2 servers together soon

[silent flax]

Personally i would use use Define series case for NAS, but those can be expensive these days, sadly.

but on other side 8 (R2-R5) or 6-11 drive bays (R6/7, going above 6 bays one needs to buy extra trays which are sold in pairs for 10 euros)

[tribal ether]

I'm using the ucg ultra

[silent flax]

hm... according to the power meter when i started an i5-4670S, 16GB RAM, Z87 ATX motherboard system with a dual i226v card, it increased the power consumption on that plug from 11 to 41W, so that puts it at exactly same 30W idle power consumption as my ITX system which refuses to work with the i226v cards. I guess it's time to experiment tomorrow and maybe set up OpenWRT on that system instead

[sly compass]

Or for a little more a full 8 port 10gbit ri45 switch https://www.nicgiga.com/products/8-port-10g-poe

Thinking about ordering one actually

I only need 5 port one. But i might as well go for 8

I got some cheap x540t2 cards and they only do 10 or 1gbit so this will be perfect for my opnsense server

[pseudo blade]

I'd go look for their OEM because there's no way on earth that's not a very slightly customised OEM product you could find cheaper on aliexpress or similar

If you're going rando-brand anyways might as well save money

[silent flax]

8x rj45 10gbe ? unlikely

cheapest i seen on ali were ~400 euros

ok nevermind, new ones are now available, for just 218 euros + 30 euro shipping 😄 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006466873404.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002369492936.html is probably the best choice, but this ain't a thing outside aliexpress

[sly compass]

At that point i might as well pick up one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0765ZPY18/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[silent flax]

uhm, that TPLink is 8x10, the Netgear you linked is 2x10G/8x1G ?

(at least that is where it links for me)

[sly compass]

Yes i can see that now

Already looked at it

This is a game, honestly NICGIGA is the only switch i can find i actually can buy

[silent flax]

the previous version of that TP-Link FYI https://www.servethehome.com/cheapest-10gbe-8-port-switch-tp-link-tl-st1008f-review/

but this was the SFP+ model

[sly compass]

Yes i really need rj45

[silent flax]

which is why i say that tplink is an option, as it is (somewhat) managed and barely more expensive ?

[sly compass]

Is there any other where to get it from? I don’t like aliexpress

Also seem to be chines market only which feels a bit sketchy

Seems to be end of life

[silent flax]

haven't seem them anywhere

TL-ST2005 and TL-ST2008 are from 2023

outside china they sell TP-LINK TL-SX105 and TP-LINK TL-SX1008, but the price

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-SX1008-Multi-Gig-Protection-Auto-Negotiation/dp/B0916BNNML $400 😦

i heard people complaining about fan noise for some tho

[sly compass]

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sx1008/

Cant buy it eu tough

[silent flax]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/TP-Link-TL-SX1008-8-Port-Multi-Gigabit-Switch/dp/B08WPD7LDZ/ but weird seller

[sly compass]

Ah yea you found it sorry

Alright, maybe pick one up

[silent flax]

btw https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/201395234_-tl-sx1008-tp-link.html

there are cheaper options too

[sly compass]

Not as cheap as nicgiga 🤓 But thanks

[silent flax]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TpLink/comments/nfzpg9/10g_switch_tlsx1008/ and you can always just get an NF-A4x10 or 20 and rewire the fan pinout to match the one which is in it

https://www.rootusers.com/how-to-fix-tp-link-tl-sx1008-switch-fan-noise/

[sly compass]

I could see myself do it. But it will be somewhere i can’t here it. I could be 100db i still wouldn’t notice

[silent flax]

oh yeah,. then no issue

[sly compass]

Also it 5-15 degrees celsius so heat is also not a problem

[silent flax]

some people are reporting dying, but that is the typical issue of reviews on internet - only people who have issues report about them https://www.newegg.com/p/0XP-001U-00776

so you can sell 1000 units, 2 of them die, 2 negative reviews 😄

[sly compass]

Yes, maybe they run hot? I haven’t heard that though

[carmine crescent]

smart

[somber bear]

I have a networking issue so I thought I would ask here. I recently bought two MCX314A-BCCT ConnectX-3 40gbe cards and a DAC cable in a bundle on ebay. I have one in an unraid server, and the other is in my PC running Fedora. They are both rackmount so the DAC is short if that matters. I was able to connect them using static IP's on both ends. That part of the setup went rather smooth, and I had a working Iperf3 test showing 9.4gbps and file transfers around the 5-600MB/s mark. I attempted to force them to 40gbe, and once put into 40gbe versus autoneg, they did not communicate at all. I was able to correct the issue eventually with multiple restarts. The questions are, is forcing the cards to 40gbe the right way to do it? Am I missing something else entirely? I attempted to use MFT to update the firmware on the PC card, but that was after I tried to switch to 40. I was getting MFE_CR_ERROR when I tried.

[worthy stag]

you really want to be using SFPs instead of CAT for 10G+ speeds...

RJ45 10 gig gets super hot and has a very high power consumption per port

SFP+ stuff is very cheap nowadays

[worthy stag]

if the port speed is 40gbe, you might be hitting single-core bottlenecks in iperf3 limiting you to 9.4gbps

have you tried setting jumbo frames?

also, try with iperf2 which (in contrast to iperf3) supports real multi-threading

with -P 4 for example

[somber bear]

I have not tried jumbo frames, but i did try a 4 threaded iperf and it still gave the exact same total, I was under the assumption it is actually limited due to it showing up in both ethtool and the GUI as 10000 link speed

[worthy stag]

iperf3 does not do multithreading the way you expect

since it is a direct link, I recommend setting the MTU to the highest possible value

I think it should be 9216

[somber bear]

Okay, i will test that

so being qsfp, is it functionally 4 10gb lanes? so like a single file never goes over 10gb?

[worthy stag]

yeah its 4 10 gb lanes

but that doesn't mean that a single transfer can hit over 10gbps

the links are on a lower networking layer than TCP so a single TCP connection should be able to use multiple lanes

I mean i've definitely hit much higher than single-lane speeds with tests on my stuff