networking

[tribal sequoia]

7 ap's would cover many thousands of sq ft for sure

but i mean, it's all up to you setting up the radios for the most part

[thorn delta]

Depending on wall materials and house layout, yeah. Plaster with wire mesh or cement make for a miserable time with coverage

[tribal sequoia]

i just recently had a place that had 8 ap's on 1 floor and they had atrocious wifi issues

[thorn delta]

But 7 is still a LOT

[tribal sequoia]

every ap was just set at maximum radio power on 2.4 and 5 ghz

[thorn delta]

I worked on one hotel that had 24 APs, all high power 2.4ghz only, on auto channel selection that was overlapping channels

[tribal sequoia]

i changed it to 3 channels on 2.4, 2.4 radio set to VERY low power on a few of them

and more "typical" on others, set 5 ghz radio where it should be, turned it down on some that were really close to each other

probably could've saved myself time just turned off the switchports for 2 or 3 of em

[thorn delta]

The hotel manager at that place was like "I know a spot on the end of the second floor that will consistently work..."

[tribal sequoia]

not understanding that the device drives the connectivity and not the ap, having lots of ap's isn't the answer if you aren't properly setting up the radios

[thorn delta]

For the project I did, I couldn't get them to do APs per room, but even in a hallway deployment with better density and 2.4 turned off on some, we still made it way better. I think they also had a really old Linksys router that capped out at 15 Mbps causing a bottleneck.

[tribal sequoia]

quality

hotel wifi is generally just... atrocious

something critical for wifi in a public setting like that is dtls as well

without that, wouldn't trust it at all

fortinet added the option for the ap's in tunnel mode to use ipsec but that just doesn't function at all in my experiences

would be nice as ipsec is accelerated

[worthy gyro]

got a useless giftcard to target

time to spend on useless networking stuff they offer

[opal pagoda]

aw yep, last hotel i was at didnt even have client isolation turned on

and first day wifi didnt even work

[stuck quail]

Hi, I am new to networking and would like some advice.

ISP: Xfinity

I am currently on their 1gig plan and I am using their equipment at the time. I am being capped at under 25mbps for upload speeds and I would like to know which 3.1 Docsis modem I should be looking into for higher upload speeds.

I was doing some reaserch and I am planning to pair whatever modem yall may adivse with the TP-LINK Archer AXE5400. Not sure if this is bad or good so if you have any input on this as well, please let me know!

Thank you!

ps. I stream videos, play games, and wfh as well so having something better than 20mbps up would be nice.

[calm prism]

1gb!?

Doesn’t seem like it’s a data limit, do you mean 1 gigabit?

[stuck quail]

yes xD

[clear igloo]

None, that's the rough limit right now due to allocation
You'll need to wait for DOCSIS 4, hopefully, if you want more upload

You have a certain amount of frequency you can allocate to upload and download for cable, most is going to download

[opal pagoda]

lmao "gigabit"

[stuck quail]

ahh i see...i guess i just have to wait for it to roll out this year then

[clear igloo]

gigabit down and a pittance of upload and you'll be happy peasant!!

[clear igloo]

Hopefully roll out this year, if not in the next 5 years
With a likely price hike of course 😛

[opal pagoda]

they should just rool out fiber

[stuck quail]

yikes...i heard they are already switching to docsis 4.0, but not to consumers yet so we shall see when sigh...

[clear igloo]

That would involve investing in their networks, we can't have that!!
Won't someone think of exec bonuses!!!!

[clear igloo]

they need more government handouts to make promises for, if they actually do it who will give them free money to pocket 😛

[opal pagoda]

god forbid investing in infrastructure

[waxen scroll]

ATT put fiber on the other side of the street and I cant get it but all of those neighbors can

though I am kind of doubting they would even fill those orders even though they claim its available. its kind of across the woods in their back yards

my xfinity contract is up in 2 days

[clear igloo]

Ah, yah I've got google fiber all around my neighborhood but not in my neighborhood, lol

At least I have one fiber provider though (AT&T) available 😄

[peak cloak]

meanwhile there's 8 gig here

I was really suprised

[eternal glacier]

I'm having an issue. I checked my wifi and it said there was a possible threat of Texas Instruments NAS on our connection. The strange thing is that we don't have a NAS, and the only thing I can think of for Texas Instruments is my school calculator. No NAS shows up on my network storage in files explorer and I am wondering if anyone has any ideas about what this could be?

[meager hawk]

I found a Cisco SG300-28 Managed Gigabit Switch used for $30
is that a good deal, should I pick it up?

[opal pagoda]

yes that is good deal, you will need a db9 console cable to configure it

[meager hawk]

Cool, thanks!

[opal pagoda]

it is at end of support tho

fine for home use

[prisma edge]

Same! I recently checked my local area's plans.

8gig Optimum fiber and 1gig Verizon fiber running through every nearby street EXCEPT for five houses.

I just happened to live in one of those houses, stuck with 940 / 35 Mbps 😔

Even our next door neighbor has 8gig.

[opal pagoda]

do a funny and run your own fiber to that neighbour

maybe you can go halfsies with that neighbour

[low pond]

Possible

[prisma edge]

[meager ginkgo]

There’s fiber all around me (and in my neighborhood) but my neighborhood is stuck with up to 1 gig while all the others have 2 gig and 5 gig plans with ATT

[wispy hawk]

Is USB 1 where I plug my Bluetooth cable ?

[random cobalt]

@wispy hawk from a pci card with bluetooth? sure, that's fine.

[wispy hawk]

do you know which position i should put my antennas?

[random cobalt]

generally straight up

[wispy hawk]

im on a second floor first

tho*

should i still put it up?

[random cobalt]

dunno. try it and see

[wispy hawk]

👍

[autumn ether]

I live in Europe, in an old 3-story thick-brick house. Believe me, I need them ^^

SFP? I'm getting RJ45 switches. The only SFP connections are between the ubiquiti switches

[silent flax]

screenshot of said warning ?

[twin slate]

50 cm natural stone walls 😄

[vivid parcel]

Figured I'd shoot the question here: does anyone know a good reputable source for bulk CMP CAT6/A? Preferably something local to HTX since the project I've been assigned is coming up quicker than we expected.
Don't think I saw any CMP for the Micro Center here, Graybar's store page keeps softlocking, and I can't find much on the local businesses.
Doing a good chunk of PoE networking for VoIP, CCTV, and computers / printers.
Any info on good tools and terminals would be appreciated as well, been years since I ran cable.

[opal pagoda]

just one thing
Do not get cca (copper clad aluminium) cables, they are much cheaper than real pure copper ones
i do not trust them for anything

[vivid parcel]

Thanks, I know to look for UTP, and since we should be getting LED lights, I don't believe shielding is necessary, though I can't recall if three-phase or 240V causes interference.
Issue though is finding a good local source.

[pseudo blade]

Texas Instruments does make SoCs and stuff for embedded products, but I reckon your detection software might just be a bit shit

[hazy ether]

does anyone know why my internet i pay for is 1 gig but the highest its ever been is around 600 mbps up/down?

[cunning lion]

No wonder my home internet is so bad

[pseudo blade]

Could be a shit router/ISP's oversubscribed

[opal pagoda]

generally you dont want to run unshielded wires paralel to power lines for long distances

[hallow lantern]

Hi i'm setting up a ubiquiti APs and I noticed my APS "failed to adopt themselves and i've reset the devices many many times, even restored a backup" Anything I'm doing wrong?

it shows this in a loop "Adopting, Adoption Failed"

[peak cloak]

Ethernet? Wifi? Power line?

[violet hound]

new server acquired

happy it didnt turn out to be 300 euro chinese ewaste

now i gotta decide if i wanna run unraid baremetal or use proxmox and pass the hba to an unraid vm

[peak cloak]

Or don't use unraid

Zfs ftw

[tribal sequoia]

reminds me when they were wondering why the wifi would go out every time they used their overhead crane in this warehouse, and i found out that the line run for the AP ran parallel next to a 400v electrified rail for the crane

"hey like you can't do this"

[opal pagoda]

i had power lines running paralel to echoder for 20-30m
one circuit was turned on and it induced ~30-40v to the other lines, enough to light up a pocket voltage tester

very funny troubleshooting

[violet hound]

i decided not to go with zfs because i'm playing on buying more drives later on

and from a quick search it seemed like a pain to do on zfs

the case i got can take like 15x3'5" drives and i have 5x3.5" HDDs and 4x2.5" SSDs, right now the plan is to get more SSDs after my wallet recovers from all stuff i already got

[peak cloak]

not anymore

[violet hound]

tho with the incoming high capacity ssd price increases i'm not sure i'll expand for a while

[peak cloak]

as long as you plan accordingly

[violet hound]

[peak cloak]

https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/raid-z-expansion-feature-for-zfs/

[violet hound]

interesting, and then i'd set up the zfs pool in the proxmox install?

or should i still pass everything to a vm

[steel grove]

Are there any reasons not to enable 160MHz?

[clear igloo]

Depends, generally no issues doing so but if enabling 160MHz disables the others then yes because any non 160MHz clients won't be able to connect

[hazy ether]

It's wifi

[peak cloak]

that would explain it

[thick minnow]

This is in production right now

[ripe hatch]

Is running fiber dumb compared to running cat 6a for a home network?

[peak cloak]

yes

[ripe hatch]

Ig especially since the max my isp can provide is 2 gigabit cat 6 is kinda dumb too lol

Might as well use existing 5e

[peak cloak]

6 is fine

for future proofing, but fiber is just annoying since you need adapter everywhere

[ripe hatch]

Reason I was thinking is because 2.5gb switches with a 10gb sfp+ are cheap

Working on redoing my Internet for full 2.5 gigabit when I switch ISPs

If I run new cables they will probably be cat 6

But ig no reason to replace the 5e

Also why are all the UniFi 2.5gb switches so damn expensive?

[peak cloak]

it's unifi

[ripe hatch]

Fair lol

[frosty stone]

they're also not really that expensive, unless you want POE

and even then, not really that expensive

[ripe hatch]

I mean all I want is an 8 port 2.5gb switch

They are like $500 from them

[frosty stone]

479 for the enterprise 8 POE

if you don't need poe, then save $30 and get a 24 port with etherlighting

[vital fractal]

i've had similar issues with U6 LR since mid 2023 on version 6.5, got so sick of it that i threw it out, got U6E and never looked back

[vital fractal]

losses like that make sense if you're using an older wi-fi standard with your AP or aio router, it could also be IDS/IPS/firewall inspecting packets and slowing down the total throughput, and of course many more possible reasons but those two come to mind

wifi APs and aio routers have historically been emblazoned on their boxes with big numbers bragging multi-gigabit speeds, almost nobody gets that experience unless they have the ideal RF environment and SNR and all that. Realistically only wifi 6E can reliably connect at 1 gigabit and only just, maybe wifi 7 will change this but im not holding out

[clear igloo]

7 does with the ability to connect to multiple bands at once via MLO

Plus you have spectrum/preamble puncturing too which should help with interference on 5GHz and 2.4GHz as well when doing MLO

[vital fractal]

i'm sure wifi 7 is impressive just like 6e but multi-gigabit is still a stretch

[clear igloo]

Yah, the thing with 7 is it builds on the speed but honestly most of those e-peen numbers of 10+ gig are with like a 8x8 or higher antenna count which in the real world you'll never have

[vital fractal]

range is also.. terrible at 6ghz obviously, i have multiple 6e APs in my house because of this, once you move more than 20 feet away from a given AP you're going to take a big hit in speeds

[clear igloo]

yah, it's definitely not great at distance either

[vital fractal]

my dream would be to have those 802.11ad antenna in every ap in every room and have true multi gigabit speeds

its sad that it fell off so fast

[tribal sequoia]

8x8 antenna are quite awesome, but yeah mostly youll be 40/80 channel width at 4x4 max, with most devices actually connecting being 2x2 or 3x3

[topaz cosmos]

hey guys so my computer is connected via ethernet
is there a way to set up an access point through my pc so my other devices can connect to the network through that?
cause i know windows has "mobile hotspot" but that's like wifi sharing and i'm not using wifi

[silent flax]

no, it shares what you pick (in Windows 11)

You can pick any working internet connection in "Share my internet connection from" and you can pick WiFi or Bluetooth as share over

[topaz cosmos]

mine only comes up with one option and it doesn't seem to work

selecting wifi doesn't seem to work but bluetooth does
but i don't even know how to do that

[silent flax]

no idea then, that should work, maybe your WiFi card is unable to run in AP mode, sadly not my area of expertise

[tribal sequoia]

he's saying he plugged an AP into his pc and trying to share from that

dont' think that would work that way (i think that's what he said from reading)

or maybe he just meant "like an ap" i dunno, ignore mel ol

[topaz cosmos]

nah im trying to get a hotspot to work from my pc
i have actually got it to work through a 3rd party app however my nintendo switch isnt picking it up at all. my phone sees it and can connect to it perfectly fine though

[ruby helm]

I just moved into a new home and there is only one coaxial in the entire building. My ISP included a 3ft coax cable for the modem, but I would like to move this into a different part of the house. Will using a 50/100ft coax cable make the internet perform worse?

[peak cloak]

Coax is meant for long distance, so not really

[silent flax]

depends on the cable tho, and if you got issues after moving the modem, you might want to call a technician. The signal power range the modems operate at is limited, so you can have too weak or too powerfull signal and they might have to adjust it if your modem is cutting out.

My signal was too strong, so they had to attenuator to lower the signal. You might have one inserted, and it might need to be removed if the signal at end of new cable is too low

[south walrus]

My fave thing uwu I am excited to see the new video of the gaming lan setup

Lines Sebastian Decided to do

[thick minnow]

It would take quite a bit of involvement, but you could potentially boot up a Linux/UNIX env on a VM to emulate some WAP / WLAN Repeater OS (Something like SONiC, but not exactly cause SONiC sucks). I can't say that I've done it myself, HOWEVER: whether you choose to install some kind of networking software or simply reconfigure your NIC settings within a standard distro, I would totally bet that you could achieve exactly what you're looking for. I remember performing a Wi-Fi Deauth attack (with permission of course) using aircrack-ng within a Kali VM, and the reason I bring this up is because many people presume that because your VM sits behind a hypervisor your VM's NIC also is disjointed from your actual hardware NIC. (true in some senses but also kinda untrue) You can circumvent this by bridging the network adapters which is very, very easy with some hosted hypervisors like Oracle VBox.

I actually find the idea of that really interesting and might make it a project of my own. I'll let you know if I stumble upon a better answer to ur question!

[topaz cosmos]

thank you ^^

i mean, as i said i did get it working and was able to connect my phone to my pc but for some reason my switch couldn’t find the network and even entering it manually wasn’t working

but maybe what you said would be more reliable and would be detected by the switch

[thick minnow]

If your switch cant find the network you might want to console in through a management port if you've not tried that already. Likely something wrong with the config. Unless you mean you were connecting a nintendo switch to the AP on your PC lol.

[topaz cosmos]

yeah nintendo switch lol

and if i tried to look anything up online the only threads i would get were people talking about their iphone hotspots

[thick minnow]

Windows 'HotSpot' is unreliable and underdeveloped IMO which is why i jumped to the VM idea, what you could try is using an RJ45 to USB-C adapter. I think the switch has a USB-C right?

[topaz cosmos]

lemme check

couldn’t i just connect to it with a regular ethernet cable and bridge that? would that work?

cause ok lemme explain why i’m even doing this

i’m using my apartments wifi and for some reason the switch really doesn’t like it and constantly get NAT errors while tryna play online so i figured if i connect to my pc it could fix it, i did already try connecting it straight to ethernet but the people that host the network stuff (called glide) have a website where you need to enter the mac address of the thing you wanna connect and for some reason it still refuses to connect even though i have it added

so yeah i’ve tried the AP thing and the only other thing i could try is connecting my switch to my pc through ethernet if that would work

cause the network would just see the traffic as coming from the pcs network card and let it through wouldn’t it

i’m only like slightly versed in network stuff so i appreciate the help lol

also nah the switch only has regular USB not usb C

[thick minnow]

So a NAT error is almost always happening at the NAT Gateway, you might wanna take a peek at your L3 device, unless your landlord manages that...then you've got a different problem. Actually i just read your other message as I wrote this so if 'glide' is managing the network infrastructure then they will likely have to add your switch's MAC / IP to the SNAT pool on their layer 3 infrastructure. That's the ONLY reason I can think of why they'd make you register the device like that. Probably trying to reserve address space. If that is in fact the case it could take a while for whoever manages their NAT Gateway to add your switch's addressing info to the border routers config (where most NAT gateways always are for networks like yours). Which leaves my only question as: how long ago did you submit the switch's info to IT / glide?

[topaz cosmos]

a good few weeks ago, and i opened up a support ticket today

when i added my PC it worked the same day

[thick minnow]

Odd that your PC worked immediatley, however i've worked in high / medium stress IT environments before and I wouldn't be suprised if it just unfortunatley got buried under other work.

Support ticket was a good move

[topaz cosmos]

i did assume it would be an automatic system though?

does someone really have to go in and manually approve them or something?

but if it really is manual then it would make sense, it’s a university place and everyone moved in at the same time so they probably had people making sure to stay on top of it at that time

[thick minnow]

Not necessarily 'approve' but the reason I believe that it is done manually is because they are asking you directly for the devices you'd like to connect to the internet. Typically, you see this done when you'd like to reserve public address space. You can either implement dynamic network address translation which would automatically lease your device a public IP, pulled from a pool of pre-assigned public addresses upon request, which is what they probably should be doing but aren't (there could be a very good reason for that though) OR you can implement static network address translation, where you have a 1:1 address ratio for each private IP. In this scenario which i believe is your scenario, a Network Engineer will have to reconfigure the SNAT to include your switch's addressing along with one of the public IP's from the address space they've purchased.

There are ways to automate this process but unfortunatley there are loads of dopes in IT who just don't think outside the box. So in a sense you're correct that it is strange to have to manually do this kind of work.

[topaz cosmos]

thanks for the info, appreciate it

i’m gonna try bridging my connection to my switch through ethernet tomorrow

dunno if that’s gonna be involved or a simple job but i’ll figure it out

[thick minnow]

Np brotha

Cant hurt to try!

[trim plover]

Occasionally (like once or twice per hour) the connection to my router seems to drop for a few seconds (my router itself still has internet connection the entire time). I'm connected via ethernet. How do I debug this to find out where the problem is?

[trim plover]

I've now connected via Wifi and the problem still exists, so clearly it's not the cable. I suspect some issue with the router? Or a software issue on my PC?

[random cobalt]

@trim plover how have you decided that the "router itself still has internet"? is this issue only on one device? or are all devices on the network affected simultaneously?

[trim plover]

Normally when there is an internet problem, the router logs say something about it, but in this case the router logs do not notice that anything happened.

[pseudo blade]

Not always true

[thick minnow]

My first thought would be a misconfiguration of the DHCP address lease period. Are you using dynamic or static addressing?

[tribal sequoia]

my last isp gateway would do shit like this and i had to replace it

it would stay online, but every device behind it could not nat out i guess

who knows what was actually happening, session table crash, something crashing idk

[verbal hill]

what is a really good cat6a cable anyone have recommendations?

[thick minnow]

It really doesn't matter that much, copper is copper. A standard one from Lowe's or Home Depot should do everything you need it to do.

[peak cloak]

It does kinda

Problem is not everything is copper, especially the home Depot stuff

[peak cloak]

Mono price ones are good

[thick minnow]

Cat6a is an industry standard set forth by the TIA (accredited by ANSI) if you've ever purchased a Cat6a cable that is significantly 'less than' any other you've been duped, sorry to break it to you.

[verbal hill]

you have any certain one i should buy or like any from monoprice wil do

[thick minnow]

You can check out the ANSI/TIA-568 for more info

[verbal hill]

https://www.amazon.nl/UGREEN-Ethernet-Netwerkkabel-10Gbps-600MHz/dp/B073WQDMCD/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=3WPFST8NX4L3&keywords=ugreen%2Bcat6a&qid=1707319077&sprefix=ugreen%2Bcat6a%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-7&th=1&psc=1 would this be good ethernet cable

[peak cloak]

Just because something meets standard doesn't mean it's nessicerly good

Quality, etc.

There's also just a lot of garbage out there

[peak cloak]

Anything from mono price is fine

[thick minnow]

Idk where you're buying your cabling brother but id reccomend reading about the industry standardizations.

[peak cloak]

I know what they are, but even then not everything conforms to it

Lots of Amazon stuff is garbage

[peak cloak]

Perfect example here, this does not meet cat7 standard

Even through it's marketed as cat7

Will it work fine, probably, but you also most likely overpaid

[thick minnow]

Cat7 is not an IEEE standard and is not approved by the TIA/EIA so not sure what 'specs' it's not meeting

The cable he's purchased does however meet Cat6a specifications as far as i can tell, the page is in German however so I can't really read all of it

[peak cloak]

ISO/IEC 11801

[thick minnow]

The documentation im reading for ISO/IEC 11801 says that Cat7 should be: 1) Able to support 10Gig Ethernet 2) 4-Twisted Pair [copper] 3) Rated for transmission frequencies up to 600 MHz. THe only differentiation between the cable hes bought is the terminator, being a RJ45 instead of a GG45, however the RJ45 is perfectly capable of handling the termination of 600 MHz line.

For $20 (18.69 Euros) im not sure what you see wrong with that

or what it doesnt meet in terms of the ISO/IEC 11801

[topaz cosmos]

@thick minnow ahh im still getting the nat traversal error. i managed to bridge my connection with an ethernet cable to my nintendo switch, was able to connect successfully but when i try to join an online game i get the "could not connect to other consoles, nat traversal process has failed" still

it’s really strange because some days i can come on and after like half an hour of trying i can seem to play with no issue but then for weeks and weeks it’s the same issue

[thick minnow]

The error code matches what you were saying about NAT issues, without knowing anything about your apartments network infrastructure i'd be hesitant to suggest anything beyond a support ticket atp.

Which sucks but such is life

Very odd behaviour nonetheless

I will say however that I think you've done all you can, and IT will probably have to open up a network closet somewhere in the building to resolve that, because I mean from your end what else can you do beyond what you've already tried.

[peak cloak]

it's just deceptive, plus how do you know it passes the tests

[thick minnow]

How do you know that it doesn't pass the tests?

You seem very 'glass half empty' which is unfortunate because it's just a cable. No one is trying to scam you

[peak cloak]

I can't know for sure because they don't post results, but for one it's a flat cable, which don't perform well. Most cables are twisted for a reason

[thick minnow]

Can I ask what formal education and training you have in Networking?

[opal pagoda]

90% of network cables rated cat7 and above listed on amazon are simply fake

consumer think "higher number better"

[thick minnow]

How many experiences have you had purchasing a fake cable?

[opal pagoda]

i dont buy from amazon, i chrimp my own

[thick minnow]

Good man

Everyone else seems to have pretty shitty luck buying cables online

I've never once in all my years heard of that happening or had it happen to me

[opal pagoda]

just get the good stuff

[thick minnow]

What application do you personally use Cat7 for? For me, I've had few situations where I needed anything other than 5e, 6 or 6a

[opal pagoda]

because consumers wont notice
maybe 1% of users will use them for 2.5g and 0.1% will use them for 10g

[thick minnow]

I am not a consumer. I work in Information Technology as a network engineer.

The situations im referencing are trained professionals

[opal pagoda]

industrial
other equipment can cause interfierence + long runs close to length limit

[thick minnow]

It seems very popular outside of the states from what ive read

[opal pagoda]

yea, you know we use lots of the stuff when we can get network cables that are custom and printed with our company name and logo for internal use

[peak cloak]

cat7 is an old standard, meant for datacenter use

[thick minnow]

Interesting, in the datacenter I work in, most cabling from the MDF to the IDFs is done with 6a. From your experience it sounds like 7 would be used instead for those longer runs like you said.

[opal pagoda]

you use copper between mdf and idf?

[thick minnow]

Ive laid fiber between some and copper between others. Depends on budget, distance, requirements and a whole other host of factors.

The building is fairly small though.

well, realativley small.

[opal pagoda]

building in question:

[thick minnow]

LMFAO yeah nah much much smaller

branch office of a larger company, multiple floors, small campus with 3 buildings

[opal pagoda]

did i mention this is 1st floor

[thick minnow]

For example the link between building 1's MDF and building 2's floor 1 IDF is fiber, the connection going directly up to building 2's floor 2 IDF is copper

thats a chonky building brother

laying cable must take a while

[opal pagoda]

8 idf-s and 1 fd

[thick minnow]

yeeeesh how big is your team?

[opal pagoda]

i dont install layer 1

[thick minnow]

you must have some beefy NPM solution tho

are you layer 2-3?

[opal pagoda]

~7
spread around 10+ locations

[thick minnow]

For me personally, i've really enjoyed the smaller network environments where I can get hands on with layers 1-4

[opal pagoda]

you pull your own cable?

[thick minnow]

We have contractors that corporate hires but I try to help out

[opal pagoda]

when contractors pull a funny and install a idf 7m up the light pole

[opal pagoda]

either way you will be getting lots of hands on with layer 8

[thick minnow]

Good old layer 8

where most issues occur in the entirety of the OSI model

i guess ill put this here cuz i have no idea where else to put it...

can anyone help me with my DNS for my bedrock minecraft server?
i can connect via my public IP but when i want to connect with my domain it doesnt resolve

[opal pagoda]

did you put in a dns entry?

[thick minnow]

no, im using cloudflare

it works fine with java servers

and bedrock work perfectly if i put in my IP

it just doesnt work with my domain

i have 2 subdomains

one with an SRV record and one without

[opal pagoda]

one is A type and other is SRV?

[thick minnow]

yes

[opal pagoda]

you are using cloudflared?

[thick minnow]

yes

for the proxy, to hide my ip

[opal pagoda]

cloudflared will not let you host a mc server on it unless every client is also running cloudflared to tunnel tcp traffic

[thick minnow]

then how can my friends join my java server just fine via my domain???

[opal pagoda]

modflared could possibly help you

[opal pagoda]

you can open up ports on your router, or buy a vps and use it as proxy

[thick minnow]

im not using cloudflared

im just using cloudflare (no d) for the DNS

Ye but you could have the whole thing in the cloud

[opal pagoda]

yes
for the proxy, to hide my ip
make up your mind

[thick minnow]

because... C L O U D

what is cloudflared?

ive never had to use that

ever

[opal pagoda]

zero trust section in your cloudflare dashboard

pay 1 arm and 1 leg to bezos

[thick minnow]

even if turn the proxy off it doesnt work

AWS pricing is unironically, not that bad actually

[opal pagoda]

yup, this is what my friend group did when we played space engineeres

[thick minnow]

Space Engineers takes me BACK

this is just making everything more confusing

Welcome to network engineering

because my proxied domain works fine in java minecraft

[opal pagoda]

in your own network?

[thick minnow]

outside too

i played on my server at school

[opal pagoda]

delete dns records and start again

[thick minnow]

and also that wouldnt matter anyway

[opal pagoda]

follow a guide

[thick minnow]

ive been trying for 2 hour

I think the best way to do it with the least ammount of headaches is with OpenVPN, thats how my friends and I did our MC server

and there are barely any guides for bedrock

[thick minnow]

AGAIN, connecting with my domain on JAVA works perfectly

[opal pagoda]

yea... bedrock sucks

[thick minnow]

its only on bedrock that it doesnt work

[opal pagoda]

android app on a pc

[thick minnow]

iOS

[low pond]

Explain.... how?

[thick minnow]

Economies of scale

It not like its the price of dirt but for what it offers I can't say that it's not worth it

It took me getting my CCP and then my CSA to realize that AWS is leaps and bounds ahead of other cloud providers

[low pond]

The answer can always be down to "ok it depends", in world of IT one solution never can fit for everyone. But as independent small searches have been done by many entities, some even have said colocating hardware bills were cheaper than if they used AWS.

Again, it heavily depends on probably your scale, time, and structure of what application or use case will you be needing it for. But in many cases, everyone kind of mutually agrees that cloud in general wasn't the cheap stuff they made it sound like back in the day

[peak cloak]

turn off proxy

[peak cloak]

could be something weird happening, but it shouldn't work since proxy is only for HTTP(S)

[peak cloak]

yeah, migrating on-prem to AWS EC2 will basically almost always be more expensive

have to use cloud specific tech to help reduce costs

[pseudo blade]

I moved my hobby business off EC2+Lightsail last week because they upped the price for small instances for IPv4

There are many downsides to doing so... but none of them matter to me

If the stuff goes down for a few hours in a power outage I don't care

If the server dies I don't care, everything's in a git repo and a tiny config file and I just rebuilt it in like 30 minutes on a new Ubuntu VM as a migration path

Probably my biggest annoyance about the IPv4 changes was that they disproportionately impact people who cost-optimised before

(I'd still use them for a big project that mattered)

[pseudo blade]

Actually EC2 is cheaper than the cloud-specific tech

Especially now scale-to-zero's increasingly less of a thing

Databases in particular there's room to save tons of money by not running the cloud-specific ones

-And you get to shop around for a provider.

[peak cloak]

well if depends ofc, but what I'm referring to is putting all your VMs, etc. that used to be selfhosted to EC2, I've never heard of that being cheaper when you include all costs

[pseudo blade]

Lambda's also not actually a good way to save money based on almost every microservice project I've ever seen

[pseudo blade]

The trick is not giving everything 16GB RAM just because, go as light on specs as possible and avoid inefficient approaches

Like use Docker/K8s and run a bunch of services on a small cluster, not one service per VM

[elder flume]

I know windows bridging aint the way to go... Felt like i got yelled googling about it..! But any way i can Bridge a Realtek 2.5Gbit with a Intel x710 Dual 25Gbit NIC... and not get limited to 800mbit ish passthrough speed because Windows only uses 2 cpu Threads for the Bridge connection

I got a spare 1Gbit nic Ready for use if that can help... Only other way i can see it maybe working is running Pfsense on a VM in windows?

Right way would be proxmox with a Windows VM and Pfsense VM as ive Read but kinda too advanced for me

sorry if its a dumb question im just a Noob trying stuff😬 also dont know if this quilifies as a Basic Techsupport question🤔

[pseudo blade]

If you use Amazon's offerings you'll pay for them (either because Amazon charges you for a k8s control plane, or because ECS isn't a portable solution)

[pseudo blade]

You can bridge in a VM and it'll do better than that but it's still going to eat CPU

Not the end of the world but you are going to need to leave that PC on for the bridge to work

[silent flax]

are you using SMB in case of those transfers ? time for SMB multichannel

[pseudo blade]

Could be worth asking - Why bridge?
Is this bridge so you can use both with other devices or so machines can use your machine to connect to other systems?

[elder flume]

Yes SMB.. from 192.168.10.152 thru 192.168.10.115(server) to 192.168.10.161
problem is the server just only uses 2 threads

i need the server to let the Router assign the 2 machines connected to it IP's so 192.168.10.152, 192.168.10.161
And if i just bridge the 2 25GBe and share the internet from the realtek to that bridge it just assigns other IPS

also doing this so i wont need a DAC and and ethernet in both machines (ik that would be easier) and just only have the DAC cable in

[pseudo blade]

Is the 25gbe point-to-point from a NAS or something?

[elder flume]

basically Server gonna just be for Games and running a Raid 10x 4tb

we tried unraid but the speeds where terible the write speed where max 500mb meanwhile read speed where like 1700-2400mb Both ZFS and BRTFS did it no matter what raid config

[pseudo blade]

Just directly connect the machine you want high speeds for and put the other through a switch?

If you want high speeds on both you're going to need interfaces for all involved machines anyways

[elder flume]

Unraid did well with bridging passthru just not the raid.. kinda why i changed away from that
Yes i know i can just have DAC cables from both machines the the SMB raid and get high speed and have a ethernet jack in also from my router since windows sees the most optimal way to transfer data anyways(usually) but i want to remove having 2 internet connections and only one Thru the DAC cable

[pseudo blade]

You really don't need or want a bridge in the scenario you described

[elder flume]

How else should i get assigned IP's from the Router thru the Server without bridge?

[pseudo blade]

Connect the server to the router for your "slower" PC. Statically assign IPs for both ends for the "faster" one between the NAS and the PC with the 25gbit DAC

In exchange you get a network architecture where you don't need to have two computers running at all times for a third to access files

[elder flume]

God damn this is hard for me understanding sorry😅

but what your saying is basically this?
its fine if i dont have it right but this is probably just gonna end up being the solution even tho i just dont want it to be

[elder flume]

Dont think to hard about the colored text just me that accidently colored it xD

[pseudo blade]

No direct connection to one of the machines based on your statement earlier, and the other one and server get an IP per interface.

[elder flume]

yea i would like it to go like this But... how would i go about giving the machines an ip from the router thru the server without bridging?

[thick minnow]

Just curious, why have you chosen to try to bridge the NIC? Why not just buy a little unmanaged switch?

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-5-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged/dp/B07S98YLHM/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=unmanaged+ethernet+switch&qid=1707355672&sr=8-5

This looks like it would be perfect and save some headaches

[elder flume]

Because 25gbit switches are kinda expensive and i dont have a port problem i do have ethernet cables going to the machine from the router Right now but i want those gone and only get internet thru the DAC cables from the server

[thick minnow]

Okay I see, 25gbit changes the unmanaged cheap switch idea then

[elder flume]

Yea😅 Would be much easier tho but a little bit too expensive

Like sure it works like i want it too when i do brigde the 2.5gbe with the 25gbe NIC... but problems are the passthrough speed limitation from machine to machine

[peak cloak]

why do you need IPs from router

just use link local IPs between the two

[elder flume]

Problem being that if i do that stuff thats on the wifi cant commicate to the machines like Chromecasts (already tried)

[peak cloak]

weird, that shouldn't happen

you probably need to change your default interface

or something is misconfigured, there should be no bridging enabled

[hollow marlin]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll For the 400G project, we got multiple Smartoptics chassis deployed and all of a sudden we started losing communication to the muxpoder modules within hours of each other. Support's response was "This is known and was discovered in 2023 and all shipped in 2023 need to be replaced"

Cool, it was known about but shipped anyway in Dec/Jan and now we have to replace dozens of faulty modules. First impressions of the product are off to a good start 💩

[clear igloo]

Picard is not amused

Do the linecards need replacing only or a whole forklift replacement?

[hollow marlin]

DCP modules (linecards) just need to be replaced at this time

[waxen scroll]

yeah I still have nightmares from the intel CPU bug that caused a project we just installed worldwide to be all RMA'd

[clear igloo]

Well that's at least a little better, not great by any means but still

[hollow marlin]

Which bug was that one?

[waxen scroll]

clock issue? idk the official name

the CPUs would die after 18 months

[clear igloo]

https://www.servethehome.com/intel-atom-c2000-series-bug-quiet/

[pseudo blade]

I remember that

It sucked

[hollow marlin]

The biggest problem my director is irked about is we also have equipment in Montreal. The amount of paper work for customs and getting the equipment across and installed was a nightmare. Not sure how RMAs are going to be handled. Like do we have to pay $$$$$ again for taxes? But the broker thankfully handles that

[clear igloo]

oh joy, yah that's not going to be fun at all
I can already imagine the red tape nightmare 😄

[hollow marlin]

We still haven't gotten a response on how we get our WDM equipment that this replaced back in the US

[violet spear]

is there a way to disable M.A.C translation my wi-fi repeater does?
it's a TL-WA855RE

[violet spear]

i've set it up so that there's only one dhcp server and it's on the main AP

so this MAC translation makes things inconvenient cause I wanted it so that the IP address doesn't change when i switch from main AP to it
but DHCP asigned a new IP cause it detects a different MAC

[worldly hinge]

Anyone have experience with Over The Air Channels for tv? I'm wanting to try and cut cable soon and see if i can get local channels but im not sure what kinda antenna would be best for where my house is placed.... I do have a mount on my roof to put one from an old Dish Tv install but I'd rather not deal with running the cabling from that

[ripe hatch]

Actually there’s probably already a cable lol

[ripe hatch]

Also how do you plan on viewing the OTA content

Personal favorite is the Channels App through an Apple TV

Also for anyone with a desire for a comical amount of network bandwidth

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134918357604

[ripe hatch]

Will say if you have an unfinished attic that is where I like them. How far are you from a major city?

[gilded ingot]

I need some help with vlans on openwrt
I got vlan 2 and 3 setup but I can ping between them, so they are not setup correctly I think

Using pingtools on android, the local area network tab works as expected, only shows 3.1 on the iot, and on the normal shows the 2.1 and the other devices connected to it

but I can still ping them if I know the ip address

[random cobalt]

@gilded ingot show firewall config

do you have lan and iot in different firewall zones? I think them both being green implies it's the same firewall zone?

[fervent brook]

I think the cox tech support guy just tried to call me poor...

I said no to his "offer" of an upgrade, and then he says he can link me to the form to apply for ACP

im about to hang up on this guy...he better not touch my account

Why TF would I willingly choose to pay 20 dollars more just because I can get 30 dollars of help from the government, instead of getting 30 dollars less than what im paying now and actually saving money?

We live in a society...

if i test my speed tomorrow and it's 500 Mbps, im gonna haunt his family...

"ACP Wind-Down Fact Sheet

The ACP Wind-Down Fact Sheet has more information about the February 7 deadline to enroll in ACP, along with next steps for winding down the program."

I'm gonna be nice an assume he's just stupid and didnt know I couldnt apply for ACP anyway

[fervent brook]

I may have just made almost all of my routers redundant...except my AX router...

I'm not even gonna ask what stupid math they're doing to get these numbers...

[fervent brook]

One downside to having a modem/router combo seems to be...Every time I save a setting, the entire modem has to reboot...

[gilded ingot]

Yeah they are indeed

Hi would that look them
iot -> lan reject all ?

[fervent brook]

Did I pay too much?

[low pond]

It looks nice

[fervent brook]

it is truely Majestic

N speed is 600 and AC speed is 1733

but if you look at the netgear provided specs is says about 3000 or 1000 ABGN and about 2000 AC

which im pretty sure is just them adding up numbers that would never even get used at the same time anyway

[gilded ingot]

Ended up making a new firewall zone and now works as expected
My router has 3 radios, 2 of them which are wifi 6, and one that is a 1x1 that I left for iot devices

[oblique orchid]

Hey, my partner is having issues with their WIFI it seems that during times of peak usage in their household(9ish devices connected not all using a lot of bandwidth as once though) The internet seems to become unstable or very slow for certain people in the house does anyone know what might be causing this

[fervent brook]

does the instability include wired users?

[oblique orchid]

I don't believe any user in the household uses a wired connection

[fervent brook]

burn the house down

[oblique orchid]

fair

[fervent brook]

Do you have access control on?

[oblique orchid]

what's that?

[fervent brook]

what brand router?

[oblique orchid]

asking now

Virgin Media

[late void]

most likely this is a ISP problem

[fervent brook]

WTF?!

[oblique orchid]

I was thinking CPU but it could be an ISP thing

[fervent brook]

I was hoping it wasnt D link or TP link or some other one im not very familiar with...but Virgin? that's a curve ball

[oblique orchid]

yup Virgn Media!

[fervent brook]

what country?

[oblique orchid]

UK

England specifically if it matters within the UK

[late void]

any isp brand router is trash also huawei

[fervent brook]

The country or the city?

[oblique orchid]

the country is England the city is [REDACTED]

[fervent brook]

i just looked it up, i was gonna say, it looks like a modem or some kind of wireless thing

[fervent brook]

On the left sdhould be "Security". And in that section should be "Mac Filtering"

it's not the best solution, but it might help. But if you already have a strong wifi password, it shouldn't matter

might be "Advanced", then "Security

[oblique orchid]

Wait why is the security being brought up? you've lost me a little sorry

[fervent brook]

Sorry, nevermind. wrong person

on your way

[oblique orchid]

okie

[oblique orchid]

I told them this so hopefully it is just Virgin being a bit shit in the moment

[fervent brook]

"the moment".
I imagine Virgin is shit in almost all moments

[oblique orchid]

I have Virgin but i use mine wired and i dont ever have issues with it

[fervent brook]

I wonder if your neighbor's wifi is causing trouble. have you tried lining your walls with EMI mesh?

that was mostly a joke

[late void]

in that case change the wifi channel

[fervent brook]

first, they should find a way to sample the wifi usage inside the house when they're equipment is off. Doesnt help if all the wifi channels are being saturated

[wintry falcon]

does someone have experience with PXE (Boot over Lan)?

[fickle spire]

hey can i use any generic router as a wifi repeater?

[pseudo blade]

Not with stock firmware as most don't support repeater/client modes

With OpenWRT or the like yes

[silent spruce]

i personally if i could would build my own router because then i know that it should be strong enough.

[fervent brook]

I prefer my RAIR

[silent spruce]

Okay, i personally don't know how good the performance is of the SoCs from Routers generally...

I heard that they are apparently way too underpowered.

that is what i know of generally right now...

[fervent brook]

curently, I have a TP Link Archer C4000, a Netgear RAX45, and a Netgear R8000 on my network...I'm not sure how much better I can do unless I just start wasting money

[fervent brook]

Are you SMI?

[silent spruce]

Not that i'm aware of 🤔

[fervent brook]

How many employees or customers do you have?

[silent spruce]

NaN

[fervent brook]

Then a consumer router should be able to handle pretty much anything you throw at it

[silent spruce]

Jokes aside, teh "NaN" was that i have 0, but there are like 20 devices also in the network, and the router gets quite warm, that is why i would do my own router...

Like it is still comfortable to touch last time touched.

[fervent brook]

Maybe the solution is just taping a fan to it?

or buying a second router and splitting the duties

[gilded ingot]

ISP routers yeah usually are quite underpowered, but of the shelf ones usually are good enough
The router I have for example uses a qualqomm cpu (ipq8074)

[silent spruce]

I can't do anything about routers...

[silent spruce]

We got the Telekom Smart 4

And i can't do [stuff] on it because they think i'm gonna mess it up and stuff

[gilded ingot]

It's quite slim

My router is huge, it looks like a spider tbh xD (ax3600)

[silent spruce]

Yeah, it is about just above hand warm ig

And if i could i would seriously make my own router for them that is quite low power on Wall usage, but still strong.

I plan 2x4GB of RAM and there is a Intel Pentium G3220 3GHz CPU

but since i know that i can't do anything about it, i can't do that

[gilded ingot]

Why make a router tho, something of the shelf wouldn't work for you ?

[silent spruce]

i want the CPU to have headroom to respond correctly...

so i do sacrifice some power efficiency with performance.

[gilded ingot]

It's just a router, what are you even running on it that you need that much CPU, the only thing I can see chugging up CPU is a VPN

[silent spruce]

Well, i'm not so comfortable that it runs above hand warm...

be right back in approx. 5 minutes to 10 minutes...

[fervent brook]

Is there a name for SMI if it's less serious?

Casual Mental Illness?

[gilded ingot]

The router is warm, but does it burn your hand ?

If it doesn't it's probably below 50C

and that is most likely within the operating temperature range

[fervent brook]

"My oven is hot, i should build my own"

[gilded ingot]

And then, if you plan on replacing your router, do you have your fiber credentials ready, because if you don't, you will have to keep it in bridge anyway

[late void]

also Huawei routers are always sh*t

[gilded ingot]

Because your router is the ONT also ...

I don't think you understand that it's that trivial to replace the ISP devices

And if something ever breaks, they aint helping you

[fervent brook]

I have my own equipment and they've never denied me customer service...

[late void]

it just uses a sim card for internet

[fervent brook]

I did consider Verizon for a few seconds, then I remembered it was wireless

[silent spruce]

Long story short: if we have a lot of Inter network traffic, that is what i'm more concerned about that it might get overwhelmed on a day that happens.

Which might happen if a couple of users use the connection of the Main router and steam has the setting active that it transfers the games from within the same network...

[fervent brook]

are you worried about ethernet collisions?

[gilded ingot]

Oh, it's a 4G modem ?

[silent spruce]

More of a "Modem can't keep up"

due to the data throughput

[fervent brook]

oh, you're worried about the gateway...

[gilded ingot]

Yeah, that explains everything, your router ain't lagging ...

[fervent brook]

how tf do you plan on making your own gateway?

[silent spruce]

From Device 1 from within the network to Device 2 within the network

[fervent brook]

you got a modem radio you have in mind?

[tribal sequoia]

the things people worry about fo no reason lol

[silent spruce]

i had it in mind, and it was because then there are way more options then

[late void]

4G+ technically

[fervent brook]

within the network isnt the gateway...

LTE?

[silent spruce]

i'm fully aware that From inside the house to outside is slower. (DSL used)

the "()" part was respoinding to the message below

[gilded ingot]

The real question here is, does it use a normal "SIM" card ?

[fervent brook]

New theory: SIM cards cause SMI. More at 11...

[silent spruce]

I can't Validate that at the moment due to me not knowing if ther eis one

[gilded ingot]

You might be able to get a modem that you can attach external antenas, I had one a long time ago

[late void]

yes

[fervent brook]

Buy a second router at the second-hand store and run some cable

[gilded ingot]

Am I seeing the correct manual of the device ?
https://www.telekom.de/hilfe/downloads/bedienungsanleitung-speedport-smart-4-typ-a.pdf

[silent spruce]

How can i see from the Website if it uses a SOM card?

[gilded ingot]

Is the pdf above the correct device ?

[silent spruce]

i just am gonna look rq

[gilded ingot]

I looked up the name you gave me and that showed up, if that is the one there you might be able to know if that is the device or not

[silent spruce]

it looks according to the lsiting of ports correct atm

[fervent brook]

looks like DSL, not wireless, so no ESN, no EIMI or whatever, no SIM

[silent spruce]

ok 👍

[gilded ingot]

Where do you even live what country ?

[silent spruce]

[Rough Descr.] I live in Germany

[gilded ingot]

Not bad, at least there you can swap your router without a problem

The ISP has to give you all the credentials, so that wouldn't be a issue for you if you really wanted to swap

[fervent brook]

I;m gonna guess GErmany...you know...by all the german

[silent spruce]

Well, since it is not my stuff, i can't do anythin there.

[gilded ingot]

Yeah I was just making sure xD
I knew that the manual was in german I translated it

[silent spruce]

I default to English here due to the rules.

[fervent brook]

is that weird telefon port what you people use for your teleophones?

[silent spruce]

Yes, that is the Phone connector so far i know

[fervent brook]

in america we use something similar to RJ11(the one labaled, "DSL")

[silent spruce]

If that is wrong, please correct me

[silent spruce]

That cable btw:

[fervent brook]

no, you're probably right. that looks like some kind of silly connector a european country would use for a telephone

[gilded ingot]

It uses a PPPoE connection from what I'm reading here

[fervent brook]

and the other side that looks like a RJ45 connector goes into your telephone?

https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/6219/6219321_rd.jpg

[gilded ingot]

I think the best bet here is you just get a decent of the shelf router and enable bridge mode on it

[silent spruce]

I got interrupted by an unexpected call.

[gilded ingot]

If you want really to replace the modem, you will need your PPPoE credentials

[fervent brook]

It's 2024...i think all calls are unexpected

[silent spruce]

Long story short: i have in mind of maybe Switching the router, but i can't

[gilded ingot]

I just scored 3 wifi 6 routers for 170€

Xiaomi AX3600 to be exact

[fervent brook]

"If they really wanted to talk to me, they would just go on a walk to your house"

[silent spruce]

Damn

[gilded ingot]

He had 3 for sale

Each new I think it is like 130€

[silent spruce]

Anyways, Since were talking about Networking, Is Network boot hard?

[gilded ingot]

20€ for shipping tho \-.-/

[silent spruce]

-w-

[gilded ingot]

I've done it, it isn't that hard

Actually quite helpful for old pc's

since I don't even have CD's anymore

And they usually have network boot but not USB boot

[silent spruce]

Well, i thought about it in the past but didn't do that because i didn't aquire the basic knowledge yet

[gilded ingot]

I just used a program, to do it temporary, but i've seen a home lab video and he had a network boot server

[silent spruce]

Well, the Receiving side is not so hard i think...

[gilded ingot]

This was the video i've used whenever I needed it in a pinch

It works on plain old windows

[silent spruce]

It is not really high on the priority list at the moment due to me having something else.

[gilded ingot]

And it only works for 1h at a time, not like 24/7, for that it needs a license, and for that there are better free linux options to host

[silent spruce]

Wait, so Windows knows that it is network booted?

and i'm not gonna run a PC 24/7 booted from network that i know of

[gilded ingot]

Nahh, it just makes a TFTP server and something else, i don't remember how it works exactly, but it's just a TFTP server and a DHCP server

You turn on the software

Do the network boot, after that it's done you can close it, since it copies the files and boots.
If you really want a 24/7 options yeah you need a computer / server running 24/7

[silent spruce]

well, i have a PC that is in a position that can't really have Ethernet attached, so that can't be used?

it has a Asus WiFi card

[sacred sable]

What is the bang for buck router around ~$75 mark or below?

The ISP router they lease it for $10 a month and I'd rather not go this route plus ton of reviews online about spectrum internet claiming that their routers suck.. So, preferrably I just buy one myself..

[rocky pecan]

Any one know of a good cat5e kvm usb and hdmi

[silent flax]

sometimes when i see motherboards from Aliexpress, they are borderline genius vs idiotic at same time

6x2.5Gbe and 10x SATA - genius

Aspeed chip - genius

but then 2x RAM ? Ok, not enough space i guess
Only 1x NVMe (+1x WiFi M.2 + 1x mPCIe) ? why ? You got tons of PCIe lanes still 😄
2x serial header + 1x serial on abck ? just why.
And then the usual "only 2 fan headers" stuff.

on other side it is also kinda power hungry for either NAS or router with 2011-3 socket

[opal pagoda]

40 lanes
16 for pcie
4 for m.2
6 for network
probably 1x pcie for 2x sata slots so 5x going there
some going to usb3.0 controller

they run out preatty quick if not using pcie switch

[silent flax]

the SATA ports come from the PCH. Also PCH gives 8 extra 2.0 slots for those other devices

[pseudo blade]

Size. This is definitely designed to be a router board for tiny rackmount enclosures and every other feature is "because we can".

Two DIMMs means tons and tons of memory for a branch router and storage server.

Definitely not a board I'd use though, if I wanted a CPU that fast I wouldn't be using 2.5gig

[silent flax]

well, you can still add a 2x 10Gbe to the PCIe slot and have 2x10gbe + 6x 2.5Gbe. or one more to the M.2 slot too 😛

it's somewhere in middle of nowhere from use case standpoint tho

it eats more power than even ITX desktop parts, not even talking about desktop atoms or even server atoms (where you also got all the networking interfaces)

[west vortex]

ngl, this kinda sucked to assemble

[static moat]

How is 2 headers an issue? you can buy a 3 way splitter on amazon and get 3 more fan headers to use

[nimble shadow]

does anyone know if theres a website or application that i can use that is like a online server rack builder? kinda like pc partpicker how it shows like pc gear and stuff like that?

idk if that totally makes sense 😂 but worth a ask

[west vortex]

actually, the only thing I've seen is Ubiquiti's site, they have a builder of sorts

though, tbh, racks are easy to figure out. You figure out how many componenets you probably want, then add up their slot size (1U, 2U, etc) and then buy a rack or cabinet that has as many U slots as you want. Probably should go with extra room too so you can make use of other accessories like 1U fan blades, a 1U power management strip, and so on.

My rack is 12U, for example. But I wont be making use of all of it right away. I will have a UDM-SE, a 24 port Unifi enterprise switch, 2x 1U patch panels, a 1U rpi setup, a 1U brush slot, 1U power slot. I'll have 5 u's left to do what I want with.

[cinder sapphire]

Hi I've got some questions regarding a local server, duckdns, and wire guard. I have a media server on a Windows machine that I run Jellyfin on. Whenever I access this server, no matter what the content I view is, my ISP flags it as malicious. I'm trying to prevent this by routing it through a VPN using wire guard to mask my IP. In doing this, it completely blocks access from outside my local network. I currently have Jellyfin set up using a custom duckdns domain. I was wondering what I should be doing with the masked IP to get client apps to recognize my server outside of the network while the VPN is running through my duckdns domain. I'm open to anything, as I have way too much time on my hands. Thanks in advance

Ok so it looks like it's also not able to connect on the local network either. This is concerning

[silent flax]

with chinese boards, you often have only the CPU fan header as controllable, rest is often 100% fan headers. If they second header is still controllable, it is often just a 3-pin fan header. It is possible that in this case it is better. Btw they made a B660 version of it too, with a super weird PCIe location 😄

[pseudo blade]

Not weird. It's for low profile rackmount chassis

For an extra network card or the like

[old hatch]

Giys i need a sugestion for a wifi dongle. the one i have sucs

[thick minnow]

So my signal drops every now and then when im in my room, and that's partly cause it has to travel through 15 inch concrete walls. I want to buy a range extender, but will they really boost the performance? or should I go for something like a powerline adapter or MoCA

A real example would be my internet dropping out whilst I was typing out that message and taking like 3 minutes after connecting to internet to send

[clear igloo]

range extenders can only boost the quality of the signal they receive, so if they get a crappy signal they can only repeat/extend a crappy signal.
I would really look at MoCA although it's more expensive it's more reliable than powerline in almost every case I've seen

[thick minnow]

right so uh MoCA is out the window as i do not have cable tv running in my room

what if they recieve a decent signal?

I do want to point out that I do need low latency, as I attend important business meetings 24/7 and stuttering is not really acceptable

[clear igloo]

Then I would try powerline first

[opal pagoda]

if you are able to then running a cat6 cable to your router is the best option

[thick minnow]

being unable to do this is the main reason I started wit hthe range extender

[thick minnow]

wbout this?

[opal pagoda]

you can run the cable really stealthy

[thick minnow]

mate im not running cables through 15 inch concrete walls

not me nor my house is stable enough for me to do that

[opal pagoda]

i have ran cable from downstairs into adjeceant room, then up 1 floor, and across 1 room
not a big deal

[thick minnow]

I know its possible but

I dont have the tools and I dont think my walls are structurally going to be able to hold up

also I probably do have plumbing running in the walls

[rocky pecan]

Any one know of a cheaper powerline ethernet

[valid scaffold]

ive been trying to fix this for the past hour and ive got no clue

raspi is reserved in my DHCP settings

but unkown comes on before it and gets 192.168.1.3 first

can onyone pls help?

im just moving the raspi to .4

[opal pagoda]

mac address from unknown corresponds with amazon technologies

something like kindle, firestick or alexa

[valid scaffold]

i solved it by reassigning the raspi from .3 to .4

nut thx

[valid scaffold]

weird? all my alexa devices show up as an alexa and my smart devices do the same

[quasi orbit]

Alright boys google fiber rolled out 8gb/s to my house

[silent flax]

manufacturers often have multiple mac prefixes. Like i got 3 types of Tuya devices and i got i think 4 different MAC prefixes, all from Tuya

[silent flax]

Echo ?

[analog sonnet]

Anyone have any suggestions for video editing servers? I currently use a synology server with hard drives for storage, and use ssds for editing but want to move to a server for all of our different editing stations. I want everything to be 10g networking. Any suggestions?

[opal pagoda]

what is your budget and storage requirement?

[analog sonnet]

Probably 10tb with room to expand. This is something I want to invest in so I’m willing to spend more money.

[opal pagoda]

would this be rackmounted?
also do you have existing switch or do you also need that

[analog sonnet]

Rack mounted. I will need to get a 10g switch aswell

[opal pagoda]

rj45 or sfp+

[analog sonnet]

Rj45

[opal pagoda]

for switch you would want something like EnterpriseXG 24
new servers are quite expensive with prices usualy being 10k+
used servers are ok priced, 2011 -3 are cheap rn due to them being decomissioned

something like this could be upgraded for cheap and for storage you could get kioxia cd6 with prices being 600$ for 7.68tb

https://www.theserverstore.com/quanta-quantagrid-d51b-1u-server.html

[analog sonnet]

I think our synology server has a spot for nvme drives so I wonder if I could put 2 of those in there? Like a 8tb for 800?
We have the synology RS1221+.

However I think if I put a nvme drive in there I give up 10gig network for that server

Or I could put Sata ssds in there?

[quasi orbit]

Synology sells 10GBE with NVME slots on it

~200$ on amazon

I was entertaining it but it’s more economical to buy a SATA drive to cache

[analog sonnet]

I was thinking about the Synology FS2500

[fervent brook]

I have an old 4 bay synology I got for 13 dollars...I'm poor, but I do wanna get anewer one done day. it was nice while I was using it

I'm tempted to buy new drives for it, but one of the more modern multibay NASs I've collected might be effectively better

[thick minnow]

can you recommend an adapter under 35 US?

[pseudo blade]

I mean it was $13 and you have it now, slap drives in it and if it's unsuitable pay for a better one.

You'll need the drives either way unless you go flash

[fervent brook]

it came populated. it no longer gets updates

[pseudo blade]

As long as it can do better than SMBv1 and it's a home network it's probably not the end of the world, though that also makes it a candidate for a Linux install

[fervent brook]

I'm assuming you're familiar with synology. it's been a while since I used mine. I thought it already used linux...oh well. I'm probably remembering wrong

[silent flax]

Synology uses Linux. But they stop providing updates for models older than 5 years

so you are stuck with whatever the latest release was

so for example DS212j (from 2012) maxes out at DSM 6.2

DS216j (from 2016) has DSM 7.2

something like DS214 from 2014 ends at DSM 7.1

so it will keep working, and if no internet facing features are used, they are mostly safe to use, if performance is enough

that was my main issue with these lowend Synology boxes, something like a $200 DS216j came with a dualcore 1GHz ARM with 512MB RAM. That is OK-ish for basic file storage, but anything more demanding and it will have issues

[fervent brook]

iirc, mine was 410

[silent flax]

yeah, that one has one more issue 🙂

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/10da7a9/official_synology_download_site_closing_legacy/

but seems some people mirrored it

DS410 is a singlecore 800MHz with 128GB RAM

https://archive.org/details/synology-grab-2023-01 mirror tho

(sadly one has to download everything)

Synology 410 series has DSM 5.2 as maximum

which is like not horrible, last 5.2 update was in january 2019, so while yes, it is out of date for something internet facing, in actual intranet usage the limiting factor will be performance

[west vortex]

Is this a good layout plan for this cabinet? I'm not going HAM but pretty basic imho. Might fit a 1 or 2U short depth blade NAS in the unmarked spots

Top to bottom is: Brush panel (or blank out), UDM SE, 24 port patch, 24-port etherlighting switch, 24-port patch, brush panel, Rpi mount panel, 2U blank (maybe a 1U NAS in one of those, and a blank out), brush panel, UDP-Pro

[valid scaffold]

Yea show 5s

[silent flax]

then that is probably the mysterious Amazon device. You can check it yourself if want to check https://techrandm.com/how-to-find-echo-dot-mac-address/

[ivory umbra]

First time NAS nerd here.

Specs: Home internet - 1 gig.
Desktop PC
Computer in same room as NAS if that makes it easier. Open to suggestions.

Looking to setup a NAS primarily for use with my main PC. Heavy file transfers onto it. A mix of video and images and files etc.

The large chunk of video will be intended for use in a Plex Server which will be consumed over the home internet or wifi ranging from 480p to 4k res files.

However, majortiy of everythign transferred onto the NAS arguablly 99% will come from my main desktop. and this will be frequent.

I am considering a Synology DS923+. While i would prefer something larger, i cant afford it. budget is tight as i have been displaced due to a house fire 4 years ago. And i am trying to get my business off the ground. Anyway, I am considering this model becasue I believe for the files transferrs a 10gig port would be ideal and i should be able to upgrade this.

The issue is that I am unfamilair with network hardware. So question to my fellow LTTians - If put this NAS in the same room with my main PC and connect both to a Ubiquiti Unifi Flex XG which has 1 x1gbe poe port and 4 X10gbe ports - with the pc and nas connected to the 10gbe ports and my regular internet in the 1gbe port, would this allow me to do my high speed transfers at the 10gbe speeds?

Edit: also open to suggestions on switches or builds. I went synology for teh UI and ease of use. I had previosuly attempted my own nas build before and spent 1000s on a gorgeous dual xeon machine that was destroyed in the fire before i had a chance to finish it. it was a massive struggle for me to be honest, this is far outside my expertise. Looking to the hive mind for your shared wisdom

[clear igloo]

Yes, provided both are on a 10 gig port those two devices can talk at 10 gig

[west vortex]

Anyone used one of these? https://www.rackmountnet.com/product/chenbro-rm142-12gb-s-sata-250w/

What would be a decent mobo to run in it that isn't bank breaking? Would like to run Plex on it as well. For NAS functionality, what would be a good OS to run on it that can also run Plex?

[opal pagoda]

looks quite expensive for what it is

i wouldnt go for 1u unless you absolutly cant fit anything larger, i would go for happy medium of 2u

[west vortex]

Now that I think of it, I can't even use a blade NAS in there because I still need to get an NVR and a power backup in there too

Will probably build out an actual NAS box and just use it elsewhere on the network

[opal pagoda]

you can use nas as nvr

[west vortex]

I'm using Ubiquiti so i'd rather use their stuff

[mystic latch]

You'd want to use linux with docker.

[west vortex]

I'm familiar with that. Run True/FreeNAS in a container? And Plex in another container?

[mystic latch]

Truenas is an OS, so you'd want to do that either as the base or in a VM

[ivory umbra]

I am considering purchasing a Synology DS923+. But also wanted to hear thoughts on a WD my cloud. Seems like a cheaper option

[mystic latch]

Your main options for running a media server/NAS are Unraid, OpenMediaVault, Proxmox, or normal linux where you put together all the stuff yourself.

Unraid is generally popular for its ease of use, but it's not free

I wouldn't recommend TrueNAS Scale after using it for over a year. Too much unnecessary complexity

[random cobalt]

yeah dude, I regret installing truenas scale. it works, but you better not want to install anything that isn't an already made app to run in their 7 layers of kubernetes bullshit.

[mystic latch]

Truecharts has a load of apps, but dealing with some of the people on that team if you want support is... trying at times.

[peak cloak]

I run proxmox and use their ZFS managment, works pretty well

[west vortex]

I've heard of OMV, maybe I'll give it a whirl

[ivory umbra]

So after much research, decided to go with an asustor lockerster 6 bay gen 2. It's got an Intel Celeron n5105 and 4 m.2 nvme slots as week as 2*2.5 gbe ports. 2 of the nvme slots can be replaced with a PCIe 10gbe expansion. Which is perfect.

Just wanted to know, I haven't setup a Nas before. Is it possible to split the drives? Use 3 bays for HDDs and 3 for SSDs? And run it either as two drives? (Perhaps the correct word is array? I'm not sure) but basically the idea is I don't want to only run mechanical drives but they are cheaper for now. Ior alternatively even two drives with 3 HDDs each where one set runs as back up to the other.

[random cobalt]

@ivory umbra yeah, you can mix and match whatever sort of physical drives. how you create volumes out of them will depend on whatever operating system you're running on the thing.

also this isn't networking related. 😛 maybe vaguely

[peak cloak]

for a NAS look at different RAID levels and what levels of redudancy they have

I run RAID Z mirror on my server mainly because I don't need that much storage

but it's not as efficient, since I'm essentially storing the data twice. https://jro.io/capacity/

[ivory umbra]

I figured network storage world be under networking. Also the OS would be the standard that comes with asustor. But just to clarify, I know an array can only be setup with drives equal to the smallest one. So if I have a set of 310tb HDDs as one volume and then 34tb SSDs as a second volume would that mean they all operate at 4tb or would the HDDs operate at 10 TB still because it a separate volume?

[random cobalt]

you can handle the 3 HDDS and the 3 SSDs separately

[ivory umbra]

That's awesome

[pseudo blade]

Yep, you create two arrays out of the respective drives.

If you were being extra-fancy there's a concept called "Tiered storage" which lets you use them as one big pool and automatically move things between the storage types as performance demands.

Doubt your NAS offers it though, you'd have to check

[copper pine]

any good LTE routers?

Was thinking about Cudy

[pseudo blade]

Many. What features do you want

[pseudo blade]

How many ethernet ports, what top speed do you want (what speeds do you get on a nice phone nearby), do you want WiFi, budget limitations, VPN etc. Are you a power user?

Does it need to have external antenna support

It's kinda hard to answer with just that as a person who's built LTE routers for use on hilltops, tractors, cars, pumpsheds and for business and home use.

[copper pine]

2 or more ports, external Antennas support would be nice, the max speed I get is 150down, 12up, no wifi, no budget, no vpn, not a power user

Sorry if I take long I am slow today

[pseudo blade]

Alright, you're getting 150mbps on what model phone by the way?

[copper pine]

Note 10 plus

[pseudo blade]

Hm, Cat 20, do you care if you don't get to quite that speed or are you willing to pay more for it?

[copper pine]

Don't care if I don't quite get that speed

[pseudo blade]

Ok, which country+carrier?

(For LTE band selection)

[copper pine]

USA, T-mobile

[pseudo blade]

Got it

Ok, bands 2,4,5,12,71,77 for 4G, n71 for 5G

Or some reasonable subset

[copper pine]

Don't quite understand

[pseudo blade]

Those are different frequency bands used by T-Mobile to broadcast on, and you have to be able to listen on at least a few of them to connect

I don't expect you to know them

[copper pine]

ah

[fervent brook]

iirc, that was a Linksys MR9000 and a S20 FE 5G

I wanna say I have a screenshot of the speed from my AX router, but I'm not sure

[pseudo blade]

Well I can tell you from a quick stare at t-mobile's website that nothing they offer is worth attention.
Cudy's CAT-12 options look pretty interesting but I've never heard of the brand so YMMV. Also their website can't do HTTPS properly and I can't find what modem it uses or its band support so I can't recommend it.

Zyxel's CAT-18 offering looks neat and tidy with reasonable specs and I've heard of the brand (and know some ISPs use them), but you have few bands in common with them which isn't ideal for performance and people online seem to trash them a lot.

TP-Link's options are reportedly adequate, if a bit slow and dated and I've seen tons of them in the wild being used by businesses here. Just check the supported bands match some of the ones on that list before buying (It won't do all of them unless it's expensive).

The routers I tend to like (even their US variants) have crap band compatibility for T-Mobile.

I reckon this is your best option as it has excellent band compatibility at a reasonable price - https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Tri-Band-Internet-Supports-LBR20-100NAS/dp/B0886XZLSJ

The NBK752 kit looks awesome once you deal with the cardiac arrest the price tag will give you, but I don't think there's sufficient practical benefit to paying 4x as much for the improvement (and if I was paying >$1k for a router solution I'd build something with my own pick of 5G radio, something like OpenWRT and buy a few wired APs)

[copper pine]

The netgear orbi looks good

Thanks for the help Meagus

[pseudo blade]

No problems

[ivory umbra]

sounds awesome thank you. i heard that for ssds in nas especially write amplification might be an issue, are you aware of how to reduce the risk?

[pseudo blade]

Yeah it's kinda tricky.
You might like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_amplification#Factors_affecting_the_value

[silent flax]

totally not unexpected https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/13/broadcom_ends_free_esxi_vsphere/

[pseudo blade]

Yep. My company's migrating new per-employee labs to Hyper-V, and I already hated ESXi and would probably use proxmox or another KVM frontend if I wanted another.

If you had money for a cluster of hypervisors you needed vSphere and not much changes tbh

I guess the fact you can't buy licenses anymore

[silent flax]

small company sysadmins cried collectively

[pseudo blade]

Tbh small company sysadmins are mostly better off with Hyper-V anyways

[silent flax]

that ain't free either now i think

[pseudo blade]

They needed Windows licenses anyways

[silent flax]

not if they ran linux servers on them

[pseudo blade]

Well then run KVM

Or run your workloads in containers

If you're running a business that isn't like 5 people "free" isn't real anyways

I doubt there are many small companies running pure Linux. Props to the ones that are though, I'd want to.

[silent flax]

in hindsight, i wasted 14 euros on https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/5-port-switch/ls1005g/ 😛

on positive side, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005931222439.html was small enough to fit in same place. A bit more cramped sure, but it fits. Thus 2.5 gigabit networking yeah

sadly it is 4+2, so the one broken Cat6 cable will have nowhere to plug into if i ever fix it, unless i grab one SFP+ module for it. But as the remaining 4 connectors are directed to all 3 locations, at worst i will have to get another cheap 2.5 switch to one spot, if ever needed

[opal pagoda]

Told ya

[silent flax]

i really mean barely, there was probably not more than 2-3 mm of space (because the pipes coming from up block lot of space, i can't really hide the cables behind the ISP router etc. I actually have to hold the power plug with adapters in a spot above the ethernet cables to even be able to close the door LOL

if the ISP router was not as gigantic, it would be easy

(and no, ISP router can't go lower either, again the ethernet cables enter it's ducts there)

[pseudo blade]

Well that's a cool product

[silent flax]

for the 32.89 euros i paid for it ? sure it is. 8+1 from same was 51.34 euros, but that is for another spot in the house (will have to figure it out first tho)

i might have to order another 4+2 for it to work correctly at 2.5gbe speeds, not like i got actual 2.5gbe capable computers here tho outside of the one PC i added a NIC to and the 10gbe nic in the server

[opal pagoda]

I just found kingston uv500 960gb ssds for 17€ each

Flash nas 🤔

[pseudo blade]

I never really forgave Kingston after the whole flash-swapping after reviews thing

But I guess at that price you could build a pretty cheap Flash array if you're fine with SATA

[thick minnow]

should I go for powerline or mesh wifi if im on a budget and only have connectivity issues in one room?

[fervent brook]

run a cable and use a switch

or a cheap router

[thick minnow]

neither are viable

room's too far, walls too thick

and what would I do with a cheap router? if anything that just adds confusion into the mix no

[fervent brook]

over 100 meters? if you can afford a house that large just hire someone to do it for you

[marble canyon]

hello. is there any way i could improve my ping on 10mbs dsl conection. better router or something

[fervent brook]

better modem? live somewhere with a better signal?

[thick minnow]

not that far apart mate

my building's actually not that long

my room is just vertically higher

like 2 floors up higher

[opal pagoda]

yea that is the plan

[silent flax]

when you order a Zigbee remote blaster and don't realize how small it is till you receive it. Size comparison with an AA battery (more info @ https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/tuya-zigbee-infrared-ir-remote-zs06-review/ )

[fervent brook]

when you use a aa battery to compare size but the device comes with a USB port

[silent flax]

microUSB, but AA was better size comparison

anyway, i need to decide what to do to make my local network fully 2.5gbe. I need one more switch, and here is the decision to make. It has 4 ethernet cables there for now (1 to the wall, 1 to another switch, 1 to TV, 1 to AVR). Now i can either buy a 4+2 gigabit switch there or 8+1; and i could either keep using the RJ45 Cat6 cable between switches (2.5gbe) or grab an optical SFP+ with cable of appropriate length and connect them at 10gbe 😄

[opal pagoda]

can it control mini split ac unit?

[silent flax]

if it has IR remote, yes

it is an IR blaster after all, and it can also capture IR signals to learn

like this - you press ON to learn code, aim remote at this little thing, press the intended button once, the learned ir code shows you a base64 string

you then use that via ir code to send to send it out. And that you can script out obviously

like that

[silent flax]

also considering it is like 17.6 euros per piece, one per room is cheap to control everything IR controllable 🙂 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003878194474.html

(there are other models on ali, but this one had a review, so i went with the one which works for sure)

[opal pagoda]

ah it can learn ir codes
ac codes are complex doe but i guess recording of most common setting can be made and then off

[silent flax]

technically it records the codes, and then you can send out those strings. By itself it doesn't remember any code

[opal pagoda]

yea i understand, but conceptually you can "remember" ir codes in HA automation

[silent flax]

yep

still waiting for a 3-pack of these https://sonoff.tech/product/gateway-and-sensors/snzb-02/ and that will form my basic zigbee HA network for now

[meager hawk]

I just got a new switch that has L3 switching capabilities. Would it be beneficial for my home network to turn it on?

[mystic latch]

If you are doing vlans, sure

[meager hawk]

I don't have any vlans atm.

so im guessing dont enable it until I setup vlans

[mystic latch]

It's just a nice to have if you use vlans to help reduce the load on your router

Because normally traffic that wants to go in between them goes up to the router first then back down

[tribal sequoia]

he's basically saying if you want to setup the switch as the default gateway so you can avoid running the traffic through your router to route between the vlans (if you made some)

there's all sorts of stuff you can do with an L3 switch, but in a home setting there's likely no way you'll ever have trouble just using whatever your gateway device is to route between vlans if desired

[meager ginkgo]

@rocky badge B.R. Is finally getting dug into the ground by my uncle’s house.. should be installed soon

[rocky badge]

nice

[shadow tinsel]

I'm looking for a solution to provide my system status to my android phone. Would be nice to have for my server when I'm away from home

Does anyone know of or can point me in the right direction for a remote monitoring system

[pseudo blade]

Not really.

It gives you accelerated intervlan routing and the like and is probably overkill

[vast temple]

couple questions: has anyone used the MoCA adapters here and runs of 25 to 50 feet (between adapters) of RG6 cable?

must be late to ask anything, ok have a good morning

[fervent brook]

is running raw unused rg6 an option for moca?

random Google result says 100 meters

it actually says 300 feet. but I'm assuming that's just 100meters

[pseudo blade]

I can't see why it wouldn't be.

[fervent brook]

might need some kind of sync signal?

[rocky badge]

moca is just rf over the line

[pseudo blade]

That's provided by the unit, people do MoCa over unused cable in walls often to my understanding

Which at that point is equivalent to a cable with joins in it

[full storm]

it's following me
i had surgery and i got this anti septic cleaning solution
called TCP just so TCP can be an even bigger pain than normal

[ancient helm]

I have a very weird problem.
My PC runs an ethernet connection. Recently I have been getting disconnected from the network once every few hours randomly.
I have to re plug the ethernet for my PC to recognize that it is connected to the internet.
I do not run it in metered connection and the router is provided via isp (Archer C5).
I'm pretty sure there is no restricted data usage configured in the router.
Could it be an error from the isp servers?
Please help me out, I tried with a different router, performed a hard reset and even had the wiring changed.

[west vortex]

waiting on my crisp tax return to make this go brrrrrr, did some purdy lights in it because priorities lol

[analog sonnet]

earlier this week I had asked about server suggestions for a 10g editing nas.
Currently, we have a Synology RS1221+ for cold storage. I will be getting the 10g upgrade card for that.
Anyways, should I just put some faster 2.5" ssds in there, and make it so those show up separately or get a seperate server, like maybe the Synology FS2500

however I think it said the RS1221+ can only do 1.2gb/s

[teal yoke]

Hello Friends

Has anyone ever touched the SNMP protocol?

I'm a bit stuck in my work since I can't understand it much and I can't find much documentation.

[thorn delta]

oh nice, Mikrotik is going to release a new 24 port 2.5G switch

[mystic latch]

Describe what you're trying to do and maybe someone here can help you figure it out

[silent flax]

meanwhile i am future proofing my home network with these cheap chinese 2.5g switches, even tho none of my computers have 2.5g NIC on the motherboard 😄 . Got two 2.5g NICs (one in my desktop) and one 10G NIC which i put in my server. I know, stupid, but hey, at prices like 30 euros for 4x2.5G+2x10G or 60 euros for 8x2.5G + 1x10G i can't refuse, even if it will make sense only few years down the line

i bet that Mikrotik will be 1k+ at minimum

[drowsy fossil]

"Suggested price $209.00"

https://mikrotik.com/product/CRS326-24G-2SplusRM

[thorn delta]

That's for the current gigabit model

[thorn delta]

I don't think it will be quite that high, but probably not under $500

It's not PoE either

I might pick one up for the office and get some 2.5G USB dongles

[drowsy fossil]

oh and i didnt see the 40 gig either
id be shocked if it was over 500 but you right its definetly going to be more than this

[thorn delta]

Their 8 port + 2 SFP+ managed switch is $219, which is quite a bit higher but it's also using a chipset that can do L3 routing

[drowsy fossil]

https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=81362975

just noticed this monster holy smokes
https://mikrotik.com/product/crs326_24s_2q_rm

600 for 24x10g???

[thorn delta]

It's pretty nice how cheap 10G switching is getting these days. That will also do line speed layer 3 routing if properly hardware offloaded

No NAT, but inter-VLAN routing would be quick

[drowsy fossil]

i want it, it would solve many issues im running into at work right now lol

shame we cant get it 😦

[gilded ingot]

All 3 running openwrt now !
Great deal, 150$ for 3

||Least messy bed 😅||

[coarse marsh]

can I ask about pcie wifi adapters here?

[floral sun]

I am thinking bout Interconnecting 2 Starlinks

I've seen an active set-up of that running at 650-700 Mbits Download 100-200 Mbits Upload

before the questions go like "Wot, just get fiber"

I simply, can't.
Landlord didn't let them build it into the flat, so my only option is VDSL and thats bs here

1 Starlink has been running well for over a year now with 250-300 Mbits down atm

but would love some more juice and I guess Interconnecting 2 would be the idea

has anyone tinkered with that in some similar way (doesnt matter if Starlink or not), would love to know how it works for ya'll

[silent flax]

as long as you go optical. metallic 10gbe is super expensive

[pseudo blade]

"Get something with an Intel AX210 on it"

[ivory umbra]

Décidée to build a basic Nas for storage and for Plex. But all the Synology NAS units moved to ryzen so crappy 4k transcoding. Hence I am getting a mini pc.

Setup will be
Main PC with 10gbe port to 10gbe switch. This is because all the major large files will be going from here to the Nas.

10gbe switch to 10gbe port on Nas. Also 10gbe switch to 1 gig fibre internet.

All the above will be in the same room.

As for the mini pc, it will be handling the transcoding. Does it need a 10gbe port/ connection to the switch or Nas for transcoding in 4k well? Or is 1gbe sufficient?

[pseudo blade]

Considering they're sharing the same frequencies and infrastructure with inconsistent latency... you'd not going to get double the throughput or even close

[floral sun]

I've seen it work though

and it usually has about 1.7-2x the throughput

hence why i was even considering it

[pseudo blade]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[floral sun]

I've got 2 to work with atm for a short time

which is why I could try it atleast and mby if it works good

i would give it a shot

but in general

interconnecting VDSL or Glass Fiber

is that a general thing? Like are people doing it? And if yes, does it work good?

[pseudo blade]

There is tools to do what you ask but they require a cloud server or multiple download streams with a router which can distribute traffic over multiple links with equal cost

Doing it on VDSL or fiber is more practical as you're not using shared air as a medium

[thorn delta]

oh for sure, everything at home/work is SFP+ except for a handful of Dell servers which were a pain. Next refresh I'll just get SFP+ cards

[pseudo blade]

It can be close to double but you risk out-of-order packets if your application cares

[silent flax]

which is kinda pain for me, my apartment was built in 2014, so i have Cat6 in the walls 🙂

[thorn delta]

Haven't done it personally but I've seen some have good results with Peplink's "Balance" routers.

those will typically balance single connections across multiple ISP connections rather than get a single fast pipe

Less useful if it's just one person using it, not too bad in larger office/home

[pseudo blade]

Yeah multiple streams, multiple connections is the best way to go

[thorn delta]

Could be worse I suppose! There's a shocking amount of new construction where no low voltage cabling is done because "everything is wireless"

[pseudo blade]

Cat6 isn't bad

[thorn delta]

it's great

[pseudo blade]

My dad put cat5 in to save a buck

...in an embarrasingly recent year

[thorn delta]

5e is still generally fine, I've seen it push 10G at shorter distance and the 2.5G standard will work fine with it

but yeah, the cost difference between 5e and 6 doesn't make it worth doing 5e. 6 to 6a... ehhhh

[floral sun]

its gonna be used by 3 persons

and approx like 15-20 devices

[leaden minnow]

quick, if I need to add a singular IP and it's subnet for a rule it would be <IP>/1 ?

I don't want to add all the IPs in the subnet, just 192.168.10.9

[clear igloo]

/32

[pseudo blade]

/1 would be one bit to the network, so half the internet or an error because you didn't use the start of that massive network as your address.
/32 is correct as per Lurick

[soft sorrel]

Can you guys give me some pros and cons of going with something like a Microtik router (something like this, https://mikrotik.com/product/RB960PGS) and building my own PFsense box?

im trying to decide which I want to do, my only real condition is that it has to be small (something like an optiplex is WAY too big, we're talking like mini pc size)

[blazing karma]

What’s the verdict on Omada vs Unifi

Currently I’m planning to move from Omada (2x EAP670s + 1x EAP610 maybe) to Unifi (2x U6E/U7P + 1x U6E maybe)

[ebon wasp]

As with any dedicated router, they are way more efficient than a PC with a consumer CPU. That's the big difference.

[silent flax]

mikrotik => lower power, as it runs a single core 800MHz MIPS CPU and probably has dedicated packet forwarding hardware
pfsense => more performance, more RAM, more stuff you can throw in it, more customization in both HW and SW...

[silent flax]

so uhm, i am in a weird situation now. Got a cable internet with gigabit download speed, cable modem has 2.5G port, my current "OpenWRT router" has 1G WAN, 2.5G LAN port. Tried to plug in a i226V NIC into it to give it a 2.5G WAN port too, but for some reason it hates any riser i plug in (tried two different designs, one was a official Coolermaster riser).

So now i wonder if 1) i should even bother with dual 2.5G solution with 1G internet, if it even gives me anything extra above the ~930mbps i got now which is a technical limit when doing 1G network due TCPIP 2) if i do, N100 for 148 vs n5105 for 128 euros

[dense beacon]

Greetings, i do not know, if this is the right channel, if not let me know which channel would be right. I thought about having a (very) slow archive/backup NAS. I have seen some bitcoin motherboards online with lots of PCIe ports. Theses ports could be populated with Sata-Expanders. This would result in a ton of Sata-Ports for a lot of Hdds. Could this be a proper usecase for the old Mining boards like a H110 Pro BTC+ from ASRock?

[mystic latch]

I moved from unifi to omada and am happier. Got tired of the shitty controller firmware updates, the last of which for me completely disabled my wall ap because they decided to change how it should work.

[opal pagoda]

Generaly it isn't worth it, it is much easier to get a lsi card flashed in it mode and single card can run 8-16 hdds depending on version you get

If you want a proper solution get netapp jbod

And same lsi card but with external ports

[dense beacon]

Thank you martinocko9

[blazing karma]

The software really is just that bad?

[mystic latch]

It seems to work fine for most people, but I had some weird regressions with the controller software

[blazing karma]

The only reason I’m considering going Unifi is cuz I have a cloud key g2+ and cameras so having the WiFi on it only seems reasonable

And im currently just using omada sdn in a docker container in my nas

But I’ve seen so many mixed bags about Unifi

[mystic latch]

Ah yea, with the cameras it definitely leans towards using their stuff for networking too. You'll probably have a fine experience.

[blazing karma]

But the U6E is exp and the U7P is downgraded from U6P

And U7E is probably gonna be pricy as well

[mystic latch]

Yea, there's definitely a ubiquity tax

You could go the other direction and get cameras that have wide compatibility and use frigate as the controlling/security software for them

[blazing karma]

I can get a EAP785 for around 490$, U6E for 279$

And U7E is definitely more exp lol

[blazing karma]

Only been using ubiquiti cam for about 3 weeks now lol

Went from shit mix of cameras to full unifi

[meager ginkgo]

I actually went the other way: Omada to UniFi. And it seems much more polished

Omada seemed to be a clear copycat of UniFi and just not nearly as polished

Haven’t had an issue with auto updates with my 2 U6-Pros

[mystic latch]

Yea def not as polished, but I don't really care much about that so long as the right settings are exposed and performance is what's expected.

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah that’s fair. I disabled auto updates on my UDM Pro but everything else is on auto update.

Thinking about getting myself some U7-Pros eventually. Don’t really care about 2x2 vs 4x4 MIMO in a home setting. Mostly every test I’ve seen shows better speeds with U7-Pro on 5ghz anyways even with the MIMO difference. And then you have the 6ghz band which is higher speed

[rigid marsh]

might be a noob question, but here I go
Hey guys, so I currently have two devices handling networking in my house.

The first one is a old Huawei Router from 2010s that gets the internet connection from the FTTB cabinet (fiber to the building) using a WAN cable. The Huawei router has gigabit ethernet ports (and I did verify this using OpenSpeedTest), but lacks 5Ghz wifi.

The second device is a TP-Link Archer C20 AC750 Dual Band router. The TP-Link device is currently connected to the Huawei Router so that it can provide 5 Ghz Wi-Fi. However I know that I can just use the TP-Link Router device by itself, replacing the Huawei Router.

The only thing stopping me is the fact that the product page for this product says it can broadcast up to 433Mbps from the 5Ghz band, but also at the same time has a 10/100 Mbps WAN Port and 4 LAN Ports capable of 10/100. So I'm confused about how it can broadcast up to 433Mbps while it can only get 100Mbps as an input/output from both the LAN (used as input in wireless router mode) and from the WAN port (will be used in connection when connecting to FTTB cabinet)

[soft sorrel]

Realistically how much more configuration can you do with pfsense compared to routerOS? The two things I know I want for sure are wireguard and Pihole, which both can seemingly do

I'd like to move my vpn off of my server lol

[silent flax]

maybe not in pfsense, but for example in OpenWRT you can run docker and stuff in docker etc

plus you need to remember that mikrotik has their own configuration language

(or GUI if you use that)

[soft sorrel]

What do you mean by configuration language? I will be using a gui but am not afraid of a terminal by any means

[silent flax]

https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Scripting+examples

more often than not configurations on internet are delivered as scripts

[silent flax]

or https://github.com/eworm-de/routeros-scripts

[soft sorrel]

it seems to me like it's powerful but has a higher learning curve compared to pfsense.

[silent flax]

meanwhile at aliexpress

[vagrant bay]

That's just marketing speech, ignore it :)

[silent flax]

it can do full speed 802.11n between the wifi AP and the client device. It says nothing about being able to do same speed to ethernet. You can have two Wifi devices talk to each other quickly, while talking to the rest of cabled network slowly. That is what it means.

[slender hazel]

Bunch of Apple modems at the goodwill

[silent flax]

modems ? aren't those their airports ?

like from around 2010 or so 😄

it's like me having all the gigabit switches and pre-2014 routers in a box for possible use case which will never happen

(ok, gigabit switches might still find some use for someone in family)

[slender hazel]

Yea they were the Airport Extremes, all were pretty dirty so I didn't buy any

[nimble shadow]

Need help trying to figure out if I should go with UniFi u7 pro or u6 pro. I would like to have the 6ghz for longevity but the u7 is 2x2 mimo across all 3 ghz waves. Unlike the u6 that has 4x4 on 5ghz and 2x2 on 2.4ghz is there really that big off a difference from 4x4 to 2x2 on just the 5ghz wave? Another note, we normally host party’s or events at our house, around 10-60 ppl depending on the event

[balmy narwhal]

Hello I want to ask about I have a archer c24 router and internet speed 250/100 but my 2.4ghz can only run at 45/45 and 5ghz 95/95 and when I use ethernet cable to my pc I got 95/95 too ( with cat5 cable). I want to know is there some settings I need to do to achieve my normal speed 250/100?

[sweet ridge]

consumer-grade routers are really combination router/firewall/switch/wireless access point. they can do all of those things, but usally not well

best to buy separate routers, switches, and WAPs

if you can afford it

[balmy narwhal]

Aha so basically this routers is really shit?

[sweet ridge]

could be. idk anything about it

i helped my MIL set up a unifi setup, and she seems to be really happy with it

[meager ginkgo]

They’re great for AirPlay receivers

You can use them to airplay audio to a set of analog speakers

[balmy narwhal]

Cuz like i just to have simple setup Notting advance I am live alone and is only who use is and mainly for gaming and use WiFi for YouTube on my phone

[meager ginkgo]

You either have an old router with only 100meg ports or you have a bad cable somewhere

[sweet ridge]

bad ethernet cable could also be a thing

[balmy narwhal]

The router I just bought it last year

[meager ginkgo]

Alright looks like it only has 100mbps ports from the hardware page

You’ll need a router with gigabit Ethernet ports..

Anything over 40 bucks should have gigabit ports, it isn’t that hard to find something without gigabit

[balmy narwhal]

I think for the cable problem is that I use cat5 so I going to try with cat6 late on tonight but the WiFi is really shit