networking

[silent flax]

Aliexpress processes VAT payments only for orders up to 150 euros

[fallow wing]

VAT included
pretty sure that means I don't have to pay VAT later on

also, free shipping

[silent flax]

did you ship from EU ? that is only way to not have to pay VAT at customs

ideally download invoice, it will then tell you if you paid VAT on it or not

to be fair, even if you have to pay VAT on top of it, it is only 76 euros, which still makes it OK value for what it is (i think)

[fallow wing]

idk where I can download the invoice

[silent flax]

web version has it

[fallow wing]

says "from China to France"

didn't see a way to pick where it would be shipped from so...

[silent flax]

also you can click on "VAT included" and it will tell you what VAT you paid

[fallow wing]

63.35

[silent flax]

well, let's hope you paid VAT. But normally above 150 euros Ali doesn't collect VAT, maybe France has different rules with Ali

[fallow wing]

dunno

@silent flax

yeah, it shows the paid VAT

[silent flax]

and you paid 380 from account ? then let's hope they did it for you

[fallow wing]

wdym from account

bank account ?

I used paypal

[silent flax]

yeah, whatever payment method

[fallow wing]

@silent flax
Since you seem familiar with AE hardware purchases (it's my first time getting anything from AE)
Thoughts about this ?
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGt4eot

x2 10G RJ-45 for 66€

[silent flax]

Oh i know nothing about sfp+ dac compatibility

You better ask the store which sold you the thing you want to plug the sfp+ module into about which ones are compatible, then ask the dac seller for that version

Some hardware works only with cisco, or intel, or other types. I didnt explore this that deep though

[fallow wing]

Aight, will look more into it

Here

Lemme fetch the product link

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EujkNjb

[obtuse cypress]

So I'm confused

Where are the transceivers going to go

[fallow wing]

?

[obtuse cypress]

What are you trying to do

[fallow wing]

In the SFP+ ports on the left

[obtuse cypress]

Right right okay what I meant was make sure the transceivers are compatible with the device

[crisp thorn]

My email forwarding from cloudflare to gmail failed from one company
SPF status
permerror
DMARC status
fail
DKIM status
none

Is there something I can do (for free) to let mails like this pass?

[obtuse cypress]

For instance a Cisco device only works with Cisco transceivers and arista only works with arista

[fallow wing]

...how do I know if something is compati- ah

[fallow wing]

I see

hm

[obtuse cypress]

You'll have to look up it's compatibility and see what it says it means or possibly search and see what people are using

[fallow wing]

[obtuse cypress]

Mellanox don't really care and work with several brands easily

Fs.com modules you can specify the device brand and they'll program them

[fallow wing]

Then I'll check out FS.com first then

I'll be back in a moment

[obtuse cypress]

I would check the manual or whatever your device is first

If you're lucky it'll accept Finisar

[fallow wing]

I just ordered it, it'll be there in 2 weeks

[fallow wing]

Lucky ? What for ?

[obtuse cypress]

Yeah but I'm sure it has a manual online you can look at it

[obtuse cypress]

They are far cheaper

[fallow wing]

Oh
Eh, maybe ? I'll check it out

[fallow wing]

Oh good to know

[obtuse cypress]

I can get Finisar modules for $4 here in the US

[fallow wing]

Coolio

[obtuse cypress]

(used)

But a Cisco module is like$20

[fallow wing]

@obtuse cypress

They don't have "Qotom" in their filter

Although the SFP+ cages are operated by the Intel Atom inside
So... I filter by Intel ?

I'll look for the PC's manual

@obtuse cypress looked on AE's product page and Qotom's website, no manual in sight

[obtuse cypress]

Yeah I mean I don't know don't just bet that anything will work maybe search around on the internet I bet someone on serve the home.com has used it

[fallow wing]

Fair enough, I'll have a look

@obtuse cypress
https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/qotom-denverton-fanless-system-with-4-sfp.41331/post-393682

Sheesh, I knew about STH's forums, now I feel stupid for not having checked them out earlier

[fallow wing]

SFP+ are x553
What does that mean ?

[crisp thorn]

Refresh

[peak cloak]

wdym by failed

in spam?

[crisp thorn]

No, not forwarded at all

I think gmail rejected the forwarded mail

[ornate jungle]

If the company has appropriate SPF + DKIM + DMARC records in place, such forwarding won't work. Tis why I can't have people send Interac eTransfer (Canadian bank / money transfers) to a Cloudflare forwarded domain name anymore. I have to give them a real email address to send to because Interac actually enforces policies now a days. https://mxtoolbox.com/emailhealth/payments.interac.ca/

[crisp thorn]

If it had dkim it would work

But it doesnt have dkim

[silent flax]

Intel X553 integrated in the SoC. So most likely you will need 10Gbe RJ45 DAC compatible with Intel NIC

(do you need DAC tho ? does the other end have 10Gbe RJ45 ?)

[fallow wing]

Oh, not at all, it's just for the sake of testing and having a back up ready on hand

[silent flax]

i mean DAC is the most expensive thing you can put in an SFP+ port

[fallow wing]

Yeah I noticed in the CPU specs of the C3758R that it has 4 SFP+ controllers

[silent flax]

direct connect cables are usually cheaper

[fallow wing]

I found those (lemme pull the link, I had it somewhere

[silent flax]

but on other side i understand that it is much easier to grap a 25 euro 10Gbe X540-T2 to test on other side 🙂

[fallow wing]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGt4eot

Only thing is, idk if there could be compatibility issues

[silent flax]

you need to ask them if they provide Intel compatible version

[fallow wing]

Aight

[silent flax]

cause

[fallow wing]

ye

[silent flax]

but it is easily possible that some of those are "Intel" in the end

like Dell or TP-link or D-Link.

simply message the seller, tell them you got an Intel X553 network interface inside a (whatever Intel C series SoC you got) and you need a compatible module with that network card, and which version would you need

cause sometimes the sellers ask you to tell them what version you want

[fallow wing]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwKc3nT

Alternatively there's this, that includes Intel in the compatibility list

Free shipping, I get two of those, it's even cheaper

[frosty stone]

buying networking shit from aliexpress

[silent flax]

🤷‍♂️ china can listen to my discord chats 24/7

[fallow wing]

I make do with what I got, and what I got is a student budget and not many brand name options in anywhere near a decent price range

You can laugh all you want, as long as it works, I couldn't give less of a fuck about where it comes from

[silent flax]

not even student budget, most people's budget

[fallow wing]

Exactly

My last IT related purchase was 9 months ago and I don't expect to buy anything afterwards for quite a while

I'll have more than enough to tinker for months with just this

[silent flax]

i could afford to buy more expensive stuff... but i rather spend it on stuff like paying off the rest of my mortgage, or even when doing computer stuff, there is not much need for highend networking. 2.5gbe or 10gbe would be nice, but i will rather buy a 8-port china switch for 65 euros than 5-port brand name switch for 130, it's not like it is going to be that much worse (looking at servethehome reviews)

and 10gbe non-optical networking is prohibitively expensive, and even optical is kinda expensive, even with china switches

a 9-port SFP+ 10Gbe switch is like 120-150 euros, then add all the SFP+ modules and booom

(and no, there is no local used market for these)

[vast temple]

can i use a larger drive say double the space of two of the drives in a vdev pool for parity in TruNAS core?

[wind edge]

those rj45 converters are kind of expensive , you sure you can't find some in other places cheaper ?

[frosty stone]

SFP+ RJ45 modules just are expensive

[wind edge]

yeah but is that 67 eur / 75$ for a PAIR or just one? because you can get single ones for $40 on ebay, like for example https://www.ebay.com/itm/295475478894

[frosty stone]

those are the same no-name stuff from aliexpress lol

[wind edge]

I don't disagree, just noticing the price difference

[frosty stone]

you can get SFP RJ45 modules for cheap, but they only do 1G

[frosty stone]

they're cheap clones, they're not verified in any way and likely not going to be very reliable, and if they do die, you're SOL and have to buy another

[wind edge]

if you pay 75$ for a single converter, you may as well get a media converter for around $90 and add a cheap dac cable : https://www.ebay.com/itm/355306534151

[frosty stone]

and the one in that ebay listing says it only does 30m

[wind edge]

Those aliexpress ones most likely also do only 30 meters, and either way you have to be careful cause those longer length ones usually consume a decent amount of power ... these <= 30m ones usually consume around 1-2 watts

that device with sfp+ ports may not be able to provide enough power for converters made for longer cable lengths

[frosty stone]

the Ubiquiti SFP+ one does 100m and has a max consumption of 1.9W

and looking at multiple other modules, 100m ones use less power than 30m ones

[wind edge]

strange but not impossible, maybe it's the chips made on a newer process (less nm) making them more expensive but more efficient

i see on fs.com the 30m ones say less than 2.9w and the 80m ones as less than 2.5w

[silent flax]

to be fair, for most home use runs even 30m ones are more than enough.

[fallow wing]

For a pair
34 for one

[fallow wing]

ohno, 30m only ? that's too damn bad, how will I link my NAS to my server ?

(I'm just jesting, don't take it personally)

[wind edge]

joking aside, you wouldn't need such converters anyway ... it would be cheaper and better to just get 2 10g sfp+ etherner cards because you have the free pci-e slots , and then you can make a direct connection between them

dual port 10g cards can be found for as little as $25

dual rj45 10g card for 26$ : AOC-STG-i2T : https://unixsurplus.com/Supermicro-AOC-STG-i2T-DualPort-10GB-RJ45-Adapter-Both-Bracket - it's based on old intel x540 chipset which means there's no windows 11 drivers if my memory is correct

[fallow wing]

I won't need them until the day I'd need a back up though
And I don't have free PCIe slots, I already used them with the 2.5G NICs that you can see on the picture

[silent flax]

but he is doing a small sized router

[silent flax]

and direct connection is pain in the back.... dealing with all the secondary IPs etc

[wind edge]

waste of pci-e slots ... easier to get a switch with a 10g port and multiple 1g/2.5g ports

[fallow wing]

Oh I know, they're a bit pricier in the EU but nothing I can't afford
The thing is, I don't need 10G cards (yet, maybe some other time, I'll need that much bandwidth)
I took the model of router I'm getting because it's a good deal but I neither have the PCIe slots for them, nor the need/use for them, that'll have to go with a future upgrade
I plan on getting a 3-4k€ gaming desktop next year and don't worry, an SFP+ card is slated in the built list

[wind edge]

you could also get dual port 25gbps SFP28 card for $63 : https://unixsurplus.com/Mellanox-ConnectX4-2Port-25GbE-SFP28-NIC-Low-Profile

a sfp28 dac cable is 30 eur at fs.com

[fallow wing]

Again, no interests for that much bandwidth, the router I got has 10G SFP+ ports, what use would I have for a x2 25G ports card

[wind edge]

you can make direct connections between nas and server, being so close ...

I was only going off topic based on your picture

[fallow wing]

I appreciate the advice and great links, but the build up of my network is a very slow process
I get one piece of equipment, install it, learn to use it, tinker with it and when I think I'm done and should get an upgrade, then and only then, I get something else

[fallow wing]

I have 2.5G NICs but the NAS has HDDs ! I wouldn't even max out a GbE port, I took the NIC because it was on sale !

[wind edge]

yeah, relax, it's fine. It's me going off topic, started from saying those rj45 to sfp+ converters are not needed based on picture and went to suggest something giving more value for the amount of money you'd pay for those converters , or more practical

[sturdy light]

whats the difference between a UniFi cloud gateway and cloud keys and gateways?

[fallow wing]

That's fair

[fallow wing]

Personally, my justification for getting one of these was that I thought it'd be a good idea to have one as a backup so I could hook a laptop in RJ-45 on the SFP ports if I locked the interface out of the RJ-45 ports

Either that or if I ended up using all the RJ-45 and didn't have an SFP+ card/cable on hand, I could use this transceivers as a temporary measure

(although I have a switch so...)

[wind edge]

yeah, that will do, but as an observation sfp+ will also accept sfp transceivers, and 1gbps sfp transceivers are cheap, like under 5$, and 1g media converters (as low as 20-25$) are also cheap and more universal ... and it's not like your laptop has 10g ethernet

[fallow wing]

Well, I get 2.5G on my laptop another way...

[fallow wing]

fair enough, although, if I'm using a 10G port, I'd like to be able to get 10G out of it
just a matter of being able to use the stuff I have at its full performance should I ever have the need to

34€ for a 10G RJ-45 transceiver, sounds like a reasonable investment for an emergency backup/testing tool

I'm not gonna get it in the immediate future but I'm just tagging it so that if I have the need for one, I know where to get one that works

at least, that's the idea

[opal pagoda]

What is your budget for a switch?

You could get something like this (ew dell) https://www.piosparts.de/Dell-Switch-PowerConnect-5524-24Ports-1000Mbits-2Ports-SFP-10Gbits-Managed-0VT1GD

Or for about double you could get mikrotik CSS326-24G-2S+RM or CRS326-24G-2S+RM

[fallow wing]

Oh I already got a switch
x8 2.5G ports, no SFP(+) but manageable

I'll get a x5 GbE ports switch though, for management purposes

To interconnect the GbE motherboard ports, this way I'll just cut off the interface access of my machines from the NICs I've installed and they'll be on a closed circuit with the management PC

The only thing that'll be online will be the VMs interfaces

[wind current]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01EXRMIIC/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=A3BXN7IC79JS3F&psc=1
now that I look at this, I'm worried it might interfere with my cable Internet

[fallow wing]

Why are GBICs so expensive
Guess I'll have to buy the ones I want from AE and hope they work

[thorn delta]

Unless you're using the SFPs in an enterprise switch, they generally don't care about the vendor, the generic ones from aliexpress should work fine in that mini PC/router thing

[opal pagoda]

if aliexpress stuff is expensive to you wait untill you see first party vendor ones

[thorn delta]

Yeah, I think it was around $2600 CAD for the 10G 1310nm Cisco OEM modules... and $37 for the Cisco coded ones from fs.com

[opal pagoda]

at work i found 20 forgoten cisco qsfp+ transcievers when cleaning the IT storage
mfw i looked up the price for them

i belive they were QSFP-40G-BD-SR

[fallow wing]

No no, I was calling the brand name shit expensive
I can get two transceivers from AE with VAT included and free shipping and that'll be less than the price of transceivers I'd get from fs.com before VAT, before shipping

[opal pagoda]

fs is not first party vendor

[fallow wing]

Yeah I know

It's just a store, right ?

[fallow wing]

Holy shit

[opal pagoda]

its a manufactuer but by first party i mean cisco, arista, hp, intel, etc

[fallow wing]

How does a company simply forget QSFP+ transceivers, 20 of them at that

[fallow wing]

Oh they do manufacture, alright

[opal pagoda]

by moving to qsfp28 and making them obsolete

[fallow wing]

...fair enough

[frosty stone]

because they weren't needed, so they were put into storage, pretty simple

at scale, things get easily forgotten

because they don't matter

[fallow wing]

The AE router I'm getting has Intel SFP+ NICs (integrated to the C3758R CPU if you must know), I'm not expecting them to be vendor locked but eh, if I can avoid buying SFPs that wouldn't work, I'd like it

I'm considering these :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJZPeCZ

[opal pagoda]

network gear is replaced on the 5 year lifecycle anyway
qsfp+ multimode isnt that usefull anyway, only was used to connect nexus 9k to fex within dc

[thorn delta]

I think I've used Cisco coded stuff in Intel NICs before without issues, you should be fine. I think you're more likely to run into problems with the SFP port not supplying enough power instead of vendor locking

[fallow wing]

Oh

[opal pagoda]

there is something you might not have known
you can reprogram sfp modules

[fallow wing]

Yeah but how

[opal pagoda]

arduino, raspi etc
they use i2c comm

[fallow wing]

I'm guessing an SFP hat for Pi is expensive though

[opal pagoda]

https://hackaday.io/project/21725-pihat-sfp-encoder

not really, no active componets

[fallow wing]

Huh
Interesting

[opal pagoda]

you only need to get a cage, pcb and some passives

[fallow wing]

Oh

[opal pagoda]

"(Please note that this project is NOT fiber optic network interface. just a cheap way to edit the internal data of the optic module)"

[fallow wing]

Yeah I know

I've seen the preview

Well, the transceivers I found appear to be generic/multicompatibility so that's good enough for me
I just hope they aren't locked to 10G and can retrograde to lower speeds

[opal pagoda]

2.5 and 5gb speeds can have iffy compatability
gigabit should work fine

[fallow wing]

Mhm

[fallow wing]

I've seen lots of 2.5 and 10 hardware but not a whole lot of 5, is that... normal ?

Idk how to phrase it

[thorn delta]

Enterprise "mgig" will typically do 1/2.5/5/10, but older server NICs and workstations were 1/10, and then you have newer, cheaper stuff that's 1/2.5g

So 5 is definitely a bit odd

I don't think I've come across any equipment that supported 1/2.5/5 and stopped there, it just feels like a half way point between 2.5 and 10 that the NIC could negotiate to if the cabling can't support the full 10

[opal pagoda]

also i wouldnt use a sfp+ to rj45 10gbe adapter in your router as its passivly cooled and those modules are relativly high power and require cooling

[fallow wing]

Oh, I'm ahead of you on this
It's big brain time

First of all

I will replace the factory dogshit with proper thermal paste

Then

I will ziptie this : https://amzn.eu/d/7m7W6Ok

on top of the passive plate

and I have other ideas for properly cooling the box

[opal pagoda]

atleast get a thick thermal pad
put it in between sfp cage and heatsink
i have seen this done in a cisco switch

and only use top 2 ports (ones that will have thermal pad contact) for those adapters

[fallow wing]

Good idea, I'll do that too
Oh, you know those small heatsinks for RasPi CPUs ? Think I could stick some to the SFP cages to help dissipation ?

[opal pagoda]

there is no airflow in the chasis since its fanless

[fallow wing]

I can always "mod" the case with a Dremel though

[opal pagoda]

but you could put a piece of aluminium sheet in between 2 thiner thermal pads so you have better thermal conductivity

[fallow wing]

Hmmmm

[wind edge]

if i remember correctly 5gbps uses the encoding and all the stuff of 10g , that's why you see cheaper cards that do 1g and 2.5g because 2.5g uses the same encoding as 1g

so basically 5g only cards like the aquantia ones were basically failed chips that couldn't do 10g but could handle 5g or chips that were hardware locked at 5g to make stock of 5g chips

[fallow wing]

@opal pagoda

Received my USB fan to cool my router when it'll get here and SHEESH does it moves air
Three speed settings, just the lowest one is more than enough

Y'know what, I got a 3D printer, I'll model a new case for the router and make an airflow channel just for the SFP cages

[waxen scroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y83BS_mK9GE

"ELUTENG"

[fallow wing]

?

I can't watch right now, can you tdlr it to me ?

[opal pagoda]

tldw dont buy on amazon

[waxen scroll]

instead of brand name products with proven quality, for example in the case of a fan.... Corsair, in recent times amazon has been flooded with unsafe and questionable products with random brand names like ELUTENG. You pay too much for the build quality and often times they run out of specs.

Louis just did a follow up video using fuses and found bad things there too

[fallow wing]

Did he explicitly name eluteng ?

[waxen scroll]

nope. Just making fun of the random name and thought I would link the video

[fallow wing]

Oh

Fair enough I guess

[opal pagoda]

trademak™️

[waxen scroll]

I wonder if theres a YOOSUC

[fallow wing]

There's only so much you can do before buying parts costs more than a given ready-to-use product and while I agree with Rossman 80% of the time, if you're smart enough to know what to look for and not fall for the obvious quality scams, then there's no reason to not buy on Amazon

[waxen scroll]

is EU amazon giving you 0-2 day shipping consistantly anymore with prime?

american amazon has been screwing me a lot

[fallow wing]

Yeah

[waxen scroll]

its supposed to be up to 2 day but ive been seeing a week

[fallow wing]

0 days is very very rare though

1-3 days more like

When it comes from a warehouse that's further away somewhere in the EU

[opal pagoda]

meanwhile aliexpress
all i can do is 1-3 months

[waxen scroll]

I've never used ali but I've heard sometimes their standard shipping can be here in a week

[fallow wing]

That long ? The people around me who use AE usually have their orders in 2 to 3 weeks and my router should be there between the 9th and 12th

[opal pagoda]

its tipically a month, and if you are lucky it gets in a week

[fallow wing]

DHL in my case

Uh
I think

[opal pagoda]

cheap stuff takes much longer

[fallow wing]

Makes sense

[waxen scroll]

I bought a lenovo from the factory and they had that thing here in 3 days xD. Hate to ask how much that cost them

they are making a killing on those X1 carbons.... they're like $3k MSRP but you can get them for $1500 near the swap to a new model year

[silent flax]

worst i had was now before christmas - it took them from 30th Nov to 21th Dec to try a delivery attempt. Sometimes it is faster

[silent flax]

i had 2 cables for 3 euros total in 3 weeks right now before christmas from China to Slovakia 🙂

[thorn delta]

They've got way faster after they started aggregating packages and shipping them all together, a lot of stuff makes it to me in canada after maybe 2.5 weeks

[silent flax]

before that CPU Nov 23->Dec 5 to Slovakia from China

so that was like 1 week and some ?

[opal pagoda]

for eu they first ship to hungary and then to member countries

[visual tangle]

Getting closer to realizing a dream / headache.

[silent flax]

another "let's cook networking gear/computers" enclosed space install 😄 (i am cooking mine in a cabinet under the tv)

[visual tangle]

Yeah, this will be networking gear.

Have not decided if we plan to add more fans / breathability.
Probably will need to if/when we fill out the rack.

[fallow wing]

I need your help fellas
I'm trying to come up with a way to bring better cooling to the SFP cages
Any idea that isn't too janky ?

This is the original case it comes in

The CPU is below the board and that's what's in direct contact with the passive plate

[mighty wind]

Looking at it best bet would be something like a heat pipe along the side but those would probably have to be custom bent. Another easier solution would be a copper block on the top to connect it to the upper fins and maybe a thermal pad on the bottom of the PCB and another copper block to the bottom plate.

You could also use some SFP heat sinks to get some more of the heat into the air space inside the case. That may be enough for your purposes.

Most SFP modules can handle the heat they generate so you should be fine with those 10G ports. 10G copper SFPs may be more of a problem as they need a bit more power.

[fallow wing]

I do plan to get one but only for very very exceptional use
I don't have anything that uses fiber at home but I do want to test out the SFP+ ports so I'll have to use copper to test them

[mighty wind]

If you can use DACs

[fallow wing]

There are DAC to RJ-45 ?

[mighty wind]

More if you have any SFP to SFP connections. If all you have are 10G RJ45 then the module is fine and shouldn't overheat. If you are only using one you should be good.

[fallow wing]

Yeah, the router will be the first fiber able piece of tech that I own, if I want to test the ports, I'll need a transceiver plus I got other practical reasons to get one

Good to know one is fine though

Will use passive DACs for a few meter runs

10m at the very very most

[gilded ice]

can a grpc gzip request body be decoded?

[obsidian cedar]

https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/doc/PROTOCOL-HTTP2.md

[deep blade]

Can anyone help me with figuring out why my upload latency is around 250ms?

[fallow wing]

that's a bit much indeed

[deep blade]

Figured. Thanks anyways. I have a feeling it's bufferbloat.

[opal pagoda]

https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat

[radiant vale]

Can anyone recommend a video or guide that helps explain how to use nginx ? I have seen a few but then they end up going off about things more advanced and I end up having to open more tabs just to figure out what they are even saying

[sudden urchin]

Anyone know about getting 5G network cards working on windows or linux? Having trouble here https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1191171432479207495

[fallow wing]

What's nginx ? What is it supposed to do ?

[keen condor]

Ok so I specifically rejoined LTT just for this question: if I port forwarded a port, and then checked my ISP actually allows port forwarding, why does canyouseeme.org say it can’t see me

Like general things that happen if possible, I have no idea what I’m doing wrong I followed 2 tutorials that were specifically for my router

[mystic latch]

Do you actually have a service running for the forwarded port?

[keen condor]

I have it set to the internal IP for my desktop, do I have to have something running for it to return positive?

Or is my desktop being powered enough (which I was I thought)

[mystic latch]

I'm not sure how canyouseeme works exactly, but just an open port with nothing actually running on the inside can't tell a scanner it's open

[keen condor]

Got it, I’ll see if it works with a service running. Thank you!

[mystic latch]

Also make sure windows is allowing the port

[keen condor]

This may be the issue as well, I thought windows would mess things up lol. Thank you

[fallow wing]

Windows defender got a firewall baked in, gotta allow traffic on desired port

[keen condor]

Ahhh, makes sense

[sudden urchin]

Any ideas?

[silent flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKUTzjA1grE

[fallow wing]

I did not expect this surprise review drop haha !

[lavish relic]

My ass is a a safe and professional election

“ i convinced my mom to let me run cat6 cables 😭

I definitely know what I’m doing and haven’t burnt one of my drills out

[peak cloak]

there was probobly no need to cut out such a big hole

and you could use old work boxes, don't need to be enclosed for low voltage

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Carlon-1-Gang-Non-Metallic-Low-Voltage-Old-Work-Bracket-SC100RR/100160916

[thorn delta]

lmfao

You didn't need to cut out half the wall

[lavish relic]

I planned on doing that then forgot to buy them so I used what I had 💀

[silent flax]

that is for his stash of hidden networking equipment, or coin mining

[lavish relic]

ngl thats smart I should put a panel

[thorn delta]

Can't have ugly cable management if you drywall over all the cables

[lavish relic]

Real

I need home depot rn

I realised I forgot half the shit I needed

[thorn delta]

but yeah, if you have access below, drilling up into the wall cavity (using ducts / ect as a reference, or drilling a very small hole in the floor against the wall) and using a low voltage ring means you don't need to do any drywall repair.

[lavish relic]

My house is like 50 years old at this point and everything under the ground is confusing

Its like they didn’t want to cut the ducting and just circled it around 50 times under the house

[thorn delta]

Surface mount boxes aren't too horrible looking either. Just pop a 3/8" hole right in the floor and mount a surface mount box to the baseboard

[lavish relic]

How bad would it be if I said my other drill just burnt up

[thorn delta]

how wrong are you using it? lol

[lavish relic]

Its a Walmart brand drill

I hues that helps

I just used what ever I found in my parents shed and said fuck it your mine now

[peak cloak]

we've had a bosch drill and impact for over 15 years

maybe not 15, but def over 10 years

no problem

[lavish relic]

I personally prefer to use Milwaukee tools

I don’t know why it’s just the first thing I ever used so I go back to it

[thorn delta]

any of the big brands are pretty solid, I have Makita at home and Milwaukee at work

[lavish relic]

ngl I want to get some Milwaukee pack out but that shit be costing more then some of those drills

[mild lake]

nginx is a web server and reverse proxy and a load balancer.

[lavish relic]

Why tf is there more

It took me like 30 minutes to drill that

[mild lake]

i can give you some simple information if you want. i use nginx for a website but not for reverse proxys and i run nginx on windows.

[radiant vale]

That would be great. I get the general principle of nginx, but how to make it work is eluding me.

[red fox]

Is there any kind of networking equivalent of DDU? Something has been done to the WiFi on my desktop so it doesn’t work properly, and I have no idea if it was from something relating to hyperV VM’s, or network bridging, or something else, but the hotspot doesn’t work with anything now. (Stuff can see it but nothing can connect)

I’ve tried clearing any bridging and whatnot for it in the “manage network adapters page” of control panel but I can’t seem to figure out what the issue is

I’m of course open to any other tips or suggestions anyone may have to fix it as well

[opal pagoda]

when in doubt reinstall your os

[lavish relic]

Idk what I’m doing but does this look right

[thorn delta]

It's best to keep the twists as close to the punchdown as possible

[lavish relic]

I already put the thing on and cut the excess

?

[thorn delta]

it's probably fine, but if you have issues then you might want to redo it

[meager cave]

For people that have plex servers and NAS boxes, do you run them on the same machine? Ive always run mine on separate machines because I don't like putting my personal data on a box that has a public facing web interface. I feel like this is inefficient though.

[abstract oyster]

is there anyone that's good with ping issues or latency issues?

i used to play valorant a lot up until recently when my ping doubled and i started to notice a significant latency increase with gun fights, i've switched ethernet cables and got a 6e router so idk what else the issue could be?

[full cairn]

does anyone know of good cellular modems

[opal pagoda]

https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ax_lite_lte6

[ornate jungle]

Not Plex, but same concept. I run a Jellyfin server via Docker on my Synology NAS that only has access to the storage folders on the Disk Volumes I specify. Nothing is 100% secure, but even if someone exploited Jellyfin (and subsequently Docker, then Synology's own OS), all they'd get are family photos, backups of various media files (music, movies, TV shows, etc.), and app / game installation files. I don't keep sensitive things on the NAS.

[thorn delta]

The band support isn't great, but that being a problem depends on the country/provider

The ax lite on its own is a pretty decent little router, I'm hoping they make the LTE version with a north american modem in it

[opal pagoda]

well they didnt specify what region the router should be

[thorn delta]

nope, kind of an important bit of information for a modem

[lavish relic]

ever heard the guy that can do it cheaper

im his autistic cousin steve

yes i know the big hole

and i need tape

im just so fed up with this i want to never see this again

[fallow wing]

Fellas, I need your help
I have confirmation that the SFP+ ports of my router aren't vendor locked
however, I found several transceiver that seem to have what I want but I'm not sure which one to pick
I know 10Gtek, I got NICs from them before, works very well
but the other brands linked down there, they seem to have good reviews and be cheaper but idk if I should stick with a brand I know for an extra or go for a better price
you guys see any discerning details between those ?
https://amzn.eu/d/bfwjL0u
https://amzn.eu/d/5DrqADp
https://amzn.eu/d/dCUY9pp
https://amzn.eu/d/hgpfGsB

[meager cave]

Thanks. It actually is emby but most people know plex so I just said that. I prefer to run emby on bare metal because I've just never had good luck at getting the GPU passthroughs to work for hardware transcoding. I think long term the solution is going to be to put all the storage on the NAS and eventually get a small efficient current gen intel that can do quicksync on all formats.

[red fox]

💀 was hoping there was something else I could do… at this point there’s so much set up on this computer that I would rather just have to deal with it than reinstall windows

It’s certainly very annoying though…

[serene galleon]

what the fuck is this

[frosty stone]

when you try to do plaster work with zero clue how to do plaster work

[vast temple]

simple question to verify what i already suspect: i've got 3x 4tb Seagate drives and an 8tb drive i want to put them into a raid 5, Will i lose 4 TB of the 8TB drive because the Raid 5 only use the largest capacity of the smallest drive in the array?

unfortunatly i don't have the funds to buy 5x 20tb Ironwolf NAS drives and build the a combination of the Johnsbo N1 NAS & Your Old PC is your new server

[vast temple]

well there are a few ways to fix it, first i'd had to see what was behind it what was put in... i usually go for a wood filler and a slightly bigger patch /w self adhesive mesh also premixed compound to go over the top in gray or white (depending on the color of the existing wall + color of the patching piece (blue for mold / insect resist or plain white))

[lavish relic]

real

[obsidian cedar]

fastest network plan in my area is 50mbps

my friend lives like a 10 minute drive away and has gigabit

shit sucks fr

[fallow wing]

ISP's lying to you
They just can't be arsed to tug a cable to your block, at least for now

[fallow wing]

...well, 10mn drive is significant though

[proud basin]

have you encountered vendor locked sfps? if yes, where?

[prisma edge]

Finally finished my first project!
I made the mistake of choosing shielded cable for a residential setting, but oh well. Only a few hours worth of trouble, is all..

I don't think I did a bad job at all, though.

[unreal valley]

This modem supports 3G. 3G has been phased out in US and Canada. FYI this will not work in those regions

[fallow wing]

I did not, actually it's because "we" established the SFP ports of my incoming router aren't vendor locked that I started to look at "generic" transceivers and I was asking for help figuring out if I could just get one of these at random or if I missed a detail that could be a deal breaker

[clear igloo]

Do you need 2.5/5g as well or just 1g/10g?

[fallow wing]

That's the thing, all of these mention being able to do 1/2.5/5/10, which is good

[clear igloo]

The first two don't, at least from what I see

[fallow wing]

But all reviews are seemingly good, all spec details on the product pages are somewhat the same
And I know 10Gtek, got NICs from the before, they're still running half my network
But their transceiver costs a little more and I was wondering if it was worth that little extra

[fallow wing]

Huh ?

[clear igloo]

#2 doesn't but #1 3 and 4 do

[fallow wing]

Oh

[clear igloo]

oh wait, nvm, I just can't read the fine details which calls it out

The thing with them is it's very hit or miss if they'll actually do 2.5g or 5g speeds, I've got some that do and others that don't from the same vendor (10GTek and QSFPTek)

[fallow wing]

@clear igloo

What the fuck

"can't do 1000mbps, only 10G"
"negotiates with other RJ-45 NICs"
literally lists data rates with their max range

Amazon product schizophrenia

[clear igloo]

yah, lol

[fallow wing]

[clear igloo]

What router are you going to be using?

[fallow wing]

@clear igloo https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/qotom-denverton-fanless-system-with-4-sfp.41331/post-405657

Been hanging around on the dedicated forum thread, you might find info that helps

I mean, not with the transceivers

[clear igloo]

Got it, yah I see it uses Intel X553 for the 10G ports, trying to see if those will work with 2.5/5g easily or not

You do get some 2.5G ports native though on that box which is good 🙂

I would suspect they should work, the transceivers seem decent although the can't do 1g but can one is a bit sus

[fallow wing]

Aye, I'm obviously interested in the >2.5 datarate with the SFP+ ports but having transceivers that can retrograde to lower rates is also good to have

[fallow wing]

I mean, if it's only that, I have three other options to look at for

[clear igloo]

Yup, and those three are all pretty good

I tend to stick with what I've used before and that's QSFPTek and 10G Tek

[fallow wing]

I figured as much, I just couldn't decide which one to get
I think I'll get the 10Gtek one
Their products so far have been satisfying and I'm not gonna be stingy for the 7-8€ gap with the others

If it was significantly more, like FS.com then no

But 50 a piece seems like the most reasonable deal I'll get here so here goes nothing

[clear igloo]

Yah, fingers crossed 🙂

[thorn delta]

I wish, 3G is alive and well in a few parts of Canada once you get outside the cities. But that device does support LTE as well as 3G, but not on some bands that are commonly used in USA/Canada, so it won't get the best performance and there's a chance it won't work in some areas depending on the bands deployed by the carrier

[thorn delta]

🍿

Might want to watch some Vancouver Carpenter videos on drywall patching... Your gaps are too big, not square, no tape and the mud is probably too thick/dry

[timber bay]

is this bend fine for an optical cable ?

[fallow wing]

@clear igloo funny, I found a 3y old video from STH that compares BASE-T transceivers, a whole lot of them, included 3 of my options, the missing one is the 10Gtek one bruh

[sweet sentinel]

Can someone help me please? i've been trying to turn my cheap old 100$ computer into a NAS but everytime i try to install trueNAS or OMV it just... wont work. OMV will install, but it wont show a link to the webgui truenas just wont install at all, im trying to install the nas into a usb and the hard drive in the computer is the drive being shared

[fallow wing]

Idk what OMV is so I can't help but for TrueNAS, is it core or scale ? You want to install it on a USB key to run it from there ? Are you trying to install it back on the key that has the .ISO file ?

[sweet sentinel]

open media vault

[sweet sentinel]

core

I want to run the OS on the usb (since i dont have 2 drives in it

[fallow wing]

You have two USB keys or one ?

[sweet sentinel]

i have 2

using one to boot

other for OS

[fallow wing]

I suspect the installer knows it's a USB key and won't let you install on it

[peak cloak]

You can

I've done it before with truenas

[fallow wing]

Hmmmm

[sweet sentinel]

also truenas takes multiple hours

[fallow wing]

[sweet sentinel]

to install

[peak cloak]

what are the specs

[fallow wing]

What size is the key

[peak cloak]

usb2 or 3?

[sweet sentinel]

usb2

[fallow wing]

Yeah no wonder

[peak cloak]

although it shouldn't matter too much, truenas isn't that large

[sweet sentinel]

damn

[peak cloak]

make sure to turn off swap though

[sweet sentinel]

huh?

i keep seeing errors on that

[fallow wing]

I mean, it's gonna transfer significantly slower though

[sweet sentinel]

how

[fallow wing]

Even with the installation process

[peak cloak]

yeah but not over an hour

[sweet sentinel]

i also have a 2tb external hdd i've lost at a friends house

[fallow wing]

Fair enough
Although if the machine is slow...

[peak cloak]

it's only 8gb required

yeah what are the specs of the machine itself @sweet sentinel

[peak cloak]

SWAP is basically virtual RAM

[sweet sentinel]

the machine is 8gb ddr3 intel i5 760 i think and it has a 10 year old gpu

this is off memory

[fallow wing]

When RAM runs out, it uses storage as RAM which is ludicrously slow

[peak cloak]

yes

[sweet sentinel]

it also has a dvd player in it with 1998 cd so thats cool

[fallow wing]

760 ???

Holy shit

[sweet sentinel]

yep

bought the whole pc for $100

[peak cloak]

I don't think it's worth it

[peak cloak]

now? you overpaid

[fallow wing]

For the love of tech, get something faster than that
A cheapo 4th gen, that shouldn't cost you a whole lot

[peak cloak]

it's e-waste

[sweet sentinel]

5th gen?

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/48496/intel-core-i5760-processor-8m-cache-2-80-ghz/specifications.html

[fallow wing]

@sweet sentinel way too much at that
an i3 4th gen with 4 or 8gb of ram should be like 60 bucks or something

[sweet sentinel]

i live in australia

so its $100 aud

[fallow wing]

That's first gen mate

[sweet sentinel]

should of mentioned

[fallow wing]

5th gen would be iX-5XXX

The thousand's number is the gen

[sweet sentinel]

Ohh

[fallow wing]

Hence 4xxx 4th gen, 13xxx 13th gen

[sweet sentinel]

damn

thats 1st gen?

[peak cloak]

just saw on ebay, optiplex 3040, i5-6500, no ram though for 60 bucks

[fallow wing]

4th gen Intel is cheapo as fuck, works very very well
Really their 4th gen was built different back in the day

[sweet sentinel]

i mean, it can bareely run windows 10

[peak cloak]

you can get even pretty descent things for free from companies

[sweet sentinel]

on firefox

it takes 15 seconds to load a page on that pc

[fallow wing]

No wonder

[peak cloak]

these are the specs of my server I got for free

[sweet sentinel]

thats why i wanted to download open media vault since its lightweight

[peak cloak]

some storage, jellyfin

ocassional game server

[sweet sentinel]

my goal is to make a NAS for my family

is there any way of doing it

with my current servers specs

[peak cloak]

not worth it

[sweet sentinel]

its so bad it cant even transfer files across a network?

[fallow wing]

@sweet sentinel go on Gumtree, scroll past the bookshelf deals, find any mini tower that has a 4th gen and a stick of RAM, 50 to 80$ is a good price

[fallow wing]

The crappiest of crappy Synology is better than what you got right now

[peak cloak]

it can, but that's not nessiceraly what a NAS is. NAS also needs to be redudant, using ZFS raid or something similar. If you just want a file sharing server you can do it, but it will be painful.

[fallow wing]

And I've got enough hard earned experience to know about that

[peak cloak]

load up some linux, and setup samba manually

[sweet sentinel]

Ok ok

so

what can i do with that pc then?

i thought i could turn it into a nas

but currently its collecting dust doing nothing

?

[peak cloak]

.

[sweet sentinel]

oh didint see that

[fallow wing]

Was driving
In this day and age, 1st gen Intel isn't worth the sand it's been made from, you can get rid of the CPU and mobo (unless someone has a very low computer power use to suggest), get the RAM stick and whatever else is in this machine to put it into another PC that'll be much more usable as a NAS

[peak cloak]

it will still be pretty slow, but can do something

it's over 14 years old

[sweet sentinel]

is it still being updated?

[peak cloak]

I'm talking about hardware wise

samba is updated

[sweet sentinel]

oh my pc

[sweet sentinel]

ok so its basically exactly what i need, samba

it will work as a NAS

i can put folders in, other devices can see it

[peak cloak]

yes, but a real NAS is more than that

that's just file sharing

[fallow wing]

To be blunt, even a first gen raspberry pi is times more powerful

[sweet sentinel]

Thats all i needed to hear, as long as i can share files with the family, its pretty much like a wireless usb

[sweet sentinel]

i have a raspberry pi 4

[peak cloak]

probobly

[fallow wing]

If you can find a cheap hat to put on it, you can turn it into a NAS but usually those hats are expensive
The pi5 has a hat that allows the installation of an M.2 port but I suppose that's also a fair premium as well

[sweet sentinel]

im going to try @peak cloak 's suggestion tmrw (its 4 am, and ive been trying to do this since 7pm)

gn

[prisma edge]

Hey, I just have a question. I'm planning to set up a NAS and we have somewhat similar specs. I'm just wondering if it runs well for you.

[peak cloak]

good enough for me, needed to enable hardware transcoding via intel's quicksync I think it was

or va-api

sometimes videos would buffer

but now it works just fine

[prisma edge]

mmm alright

[peak cloak]

I have 3 zfs pools, 2 mirror, and 1 is just a long disk

[prisma edge]

Thinking of setting up Plex and storage and I wasn't sure if it was capable of both at the same time.

[peak cloak]

storage, OS, and NVR

[silent flax]

what do you mean "no link" ? Does it says "no interface(s) available" ? then your network card either doesn't work, is disabled in BIOS (somehow) or it is using an unsupported NIC

[prisma edge]

Oh neat

Alright, thanks! I appreciate it.

[silent flax]

@sweet sentinel but in the end, just log in via root & password you set durring install, and see if you got an IP. if you did, just open https://nas.ip.address in browser on any other PC. If not, figure out why do you not have network

[manic cape]

There's a small business I do side work for. When they initially set up their website, they had the guy who made the website purchase the domain. They're wanting ownership of it now in case the guy ever flakes for any reason. He's willing to transfer it, and he's currently using Bluehost. Do they need to also use Bluehost to easily transfer it over? And when they sign up for an account, should they just use a Gmail address to avoid their hosting site account being lost if the domain lapses?

[peak cloak]

No, personally for domain ownership I use porkbun

I heard good things about gandi and hover as well

cloudflare is also good, just don't like that you are locked to their nameservers

used to like google, but they axed it

[silent flax]

sadly i got 2nd/3rd gen systems here, so even $50 would be hard to recoup costs on power usage 😄 (i mean, those systems idle at 30W, 6th gen would cut it maybe to 10W or so, but i would have to get a B150 ITX board to get M.2 slot etc 🙂

[fallow wing]

Wrong reply ?

[silent flax]

nah, i meant in general, that "cheap" is relative 🙂

[fallow wing]

Got mine from OVH since it's a local host provider

[silent flax]

i mean going from 2nd/3rd gen (my systems) to 4th/6th gen even for $60-$100 would mean 3+ years of returns in power costs

1st gen Lynnfield is not that much worse

[fallow wing]

Oh alright, I thought you meant to reply the message above mine since you mentioned 6th gen

[manic cape]

How easy is it to transfer over from one hoster to another? And should they use an email that isn't using the domain they're trying to register?

[fallow wing]

I wasn't thinking power usage, I was mostly thinking about minimum performance to run a NAS OS properly

[silent flax]

i mean at load it will be worse, but at idle, 1st to 4th gen is not that different

minimum performance - hell, anything will do for most NAS jobs 🙂

remember that many NAS systems from few years ago were 1-2 core, 1GHz ARM CPUs with 512MB RAM 😄

[peak cloak]

pretty easy, need to unlock it on the original end and I think there's a pin you need to enter? It's been a while since I've done it. I guess you can? Not really sure what best practice is there

[silent flax]

hell, DS124 is still only Realtek RTD1619B 4c/4t with 1GB RAM

[peak cloak]

you also need to pay to transfer, but it's not really a fee, but you need to extend the registration

[fallow wing]

Well, clearly not 1st gen Intel tho

[silent flax]

1st gen would do NAS fine. His issue is networking i suspect

[fallow wing]

I despise Synology and the price they ask for the performance delivered

[peak cloak]

not sure what you are using for nameservers, but if some 3rd party other than bluehost, will need to transfer that over as well

[silent flax]

@sweet sentinel tell us the motherboard, if you have the PC connected via cable or Wifi (you have to connect it first via cable, set up wifi, then you can do it without cabled networking), exact error with OpenMediavault etc

[manic cape]

I'm not sure either...the company doesn't know either...that's why they initially had the other party set all of this up for them, it just puts them in a vulnerable position

[fallow wing]

Sorry for the spam earlier fellas, dunno what happened, my discord shat itself

[full cairn]

does anyone know of good satelite rotating motors

[opal pagoda]

rn 8th gen is being eol-ed

[silent flax]

next year will be also death bed for last intel mac minis

[oblique orchid]

Hiya beautiful people, My mum has tasked me with finding how to sort out her weak WIFI signal in her rooma nd she sent me a link to this while I was out, do people think this would be good? (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CNQ2GK3F/ref=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_NCNAT2JEC8XYFT9GEBPC?th=1)

[obsidian cedar]

nah thats just the UK

[fallow wing]

You're seriously mistaken to think ISP bullshit only happen in the UK...

[wind current]

i couldnt get a link in my room, so no moca

[thorn delta]

These are all over aliexpress and similar sites, they work alright but I haven't seen much above 30-40 Mbps when I tried one out at home. Probably good enough for making a smartphone work and some basic video streaming

I'd probably recommend something from a name brand, though

[shut geyser]

not sure if this falls entirely under networking, but I have an old ASRock DekMini 110 that I want to use as a Mini PC/DAS setup. Any of you have experience doing that and have any setup suggestions?

[sweet sentinel]

It doesn't even say that, just blank

[sweet sentinel]

OHH, i've been doing it with wifi

I dont know the motherboard

the person who sold it to me didint even know what the parts inside of it were

[oblique orchid]

Do you know if any other device that could get the job done? She says the WiFi signal in her room isn’t great and she told me if at all possible she’d like to avoid the device being connected by Ethernet (not sure if power plugs could work I think she’d be fine with those)

[fallow wing]

ROUTER JUST GOT SHIPPED OFF WOOOOOOO
delivery expected on Monday, that's actually 2 days earlier than their initial estimation, fantastic !

I already have the NVMe, the RAM, the ISO file, even a USB fan as an extra to help out with cooling
man I can't wait to get on this project
that'll allow me to improve my network's disposition in a significant manner
and I'll have an occasion to try my hand at aggregating links

[silent flax]

1. if you have command line linux running, then run command dmidecode -s baseboard-product-name
2. if you have something like Ubuntu live DVD/USB running, you can find the board name in information section of settings app (at least in Ubuntu)
3. if you have Windows running, just run CPU-Z (Mainboard tab) or hwinfo (system summary)

[sweet sentinel]

too late now, hard drive is failing (im throwing out the pc now, too cheap and slow, cant be bothered replacing hdd)

hard drive is likely the reason it wasn't working

[fallow wing]

how do you know the drive was failing ?

[sweet sentinel]

i installed debian and it instantly popped up saying there are issues with the hard drive, and its saying stuff about pre-fail and old age

probably explains the very slow installation and the inability to run a web page on windows without it taking 30 seconds

[fallow wing]

are you sure it wasn't to warn you that HDD install in general might be slow and not specifically about your own drive

did it explicitly said your HDD was defective ?

[sweet sentinel]

Yep

[fallow wing]

hm

[silent flax]

even if you are throwing it out, you can still look around for some donation centers. Sadly my local one stopped accepting desktops, as beggars can be choosers apparently (i mean people who they donate them to want tablets or laptops LOL)

[sweet sentinel]

It said its about to fail in the disk management thingy (im not much of a linux user)

[fallow wing]

how old is that drive anyway ?

can your check the manufacture date ?

it'll be labelled as "DoM" on the sticker

[sweet sentinel]

the parts are around 14 years old

the parts are all roughly the same age

[fallow wing]

oh sheesh

[sweet sentinel]

and the drive's been on for almost 2 years straight in total (its used)

[fallow wing]

yeah no, the whole thing is junk

I wouldn't even trust the RAM

[sweet sentinel]

8gb ddr3

[fallow wing]

well

maybe the RAM is salvageable

[sweet sentinel]

the ram works fine

[fallow wing]

RAM, mobos and CPUs are usually the most salvaged parts

[sweet sentinel]

cpu is intel i5-760

[fallow wing]

yeah I know

[sweet sentinel]

oh good

[fallow wing]

I was there yesterday

[sweet sentinel]

im storing all my spare parts in a box, how do i store the cpu?

[fallow wing]

you can probably keep the RAM but you can throw everything else

[sweet sentinel]

the gpu works too

[fallow wing]

the CPU is so bad, it's not worth the sand it was made of

[fallow wing]

you got a GPU in that thing ?

[sweet sentinel]

i was gonna say

[sweet sentinel]

Yeah its an nvidia gpu

rtx 3090

[fallow wing]

...you're joking, right ?

[sweet sentinel]

yeah

i dont know the gpu exactly

[fallow wing]

send a pic, maybe I can tell you

[sweet sentinel]

alr

[fallow wing]

isn't there a sticker or something on it ?

[sweet sentinel]

where?

[fallow wing]

well, anywhere you can see

[sweet sentinel]

lemme check, rn im on my pentium computer

Sending..

There

@fallow wing

[fallow wing]

that's not even a GPU, just a video adapter (I think)

[sweet sentinel]

No it is

It had nvidia drivers

[fallow wing]

hm

[sweet sentinel]

It was a thx I think

[fallow wing]

then it's too old for me to know about it

[sweet sentinel]

Gtx

[fallow wing]

very early gtx then

[sweet sentinel]

I think it’s a gtx

I can do a google image search

Ima just take the gpu out lmao

Gpu is a gt 710

Just pulled it out

[sweet sentinel]

.

[fallow wing]

that shit old

[sweet sentinel]

Yep

Might as well keep it it’s not defective

What else should I take out lmao

I took the wifi card out too btw

@fallow wing

Sorry for the pings

[fallow wing]

well, everything, if you're gonna scrap it

[sweet sentinel]

True

[fallow wing]

case's probably good
I wouldn't trust a 14yo PSU

[sweet sentinel]

I’ve never taken out a cpu before

[fallow wing]

mobo's junk

[fallow wing]

it's pretty straight forward

and a bit messy due to the paste

[sweet sentinel]

I might as well practice

[fallow wing]

but it's probably been dried out after all this time

[sweet sentinel]

You think there is any paste left after 14 years lmao

I’m starting to realise I’ve been running it without paste lmao

Oh well

Now how do I take this fan off

[sweet sentinel]

?

[fallow wing]

there should be screws at the base or some kind of fixing mechanism

kinda busy over here, trying figuring it out on your own

[sweet sentinel]

Alright

[paper valve]

remove fans, uncrew and twist

[sand narwhal]

uhhhhhhh

[low pond]

Beautiful

Perhaps use different servers :p

[thick minnow]

why my 5g network do great with installing and uploading but has high ping😔

[lavish relic]

i mean

could be worst

i still have more

[lavish relic]

worth it i guess

i was getting 150 down before

[oak abyss]

that unloaded ping when its 0

how does that work

[opal bough]

do you guys know of any good EOP 2 packs for around $50?

https://a.co/d/bKGTwg6 also is there anything wrong with these ethernet cables? i just need 2 short ethernet cables, i dont even need higher than like 1 gigabit

my roommates fall asleep to youtube/netflix with autoplay off and i work nights so when i get home at like 3am, this is the connection i get and its hard to game on not even 20mbps

[fallow wing]

because it's 5G

[silent flax]

meanwhile big boys https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/01/a-ridiculously-weak-password-causes-disaster-for-spains-no-2-mobile-carrier/

[warm oriole]

hey guys.
i am starting work at the new company. work is 100% remote and I need to install their vpn. They dont provide company devices.
If I will create a virtual machine and install vpn there will traffic from my computer be still going through vpn?

[fallow wing]

Traffic from the VM will be VPN'd, not the host's traffic

Wait

No company device ?
That's... very weird

[warm oriole]

thank you. also - there is another option to have the same solution? I will just connect to the VM through SSH with my code editor. Is there any solution to have similar effect but without installing entire virtual system on my computer?

[clear igloo]

Yah requiring a VPN but not providing company devices is definitely not right

[frosty stone]

should never be using your personal device for work

[fallow wing]

What do you mean by similar effect ?

[clear igloo]

I mean it also depends on how the VPN is setup, split tunnel VPN would only send specific traffic over the VPN but it's completely down to how things are provisioned

[fallow wing]

Pretty sure if you want only partial VPN'd traffic, a VM's the only way to go

Your personal traffic doesn't get VPN'd, your work traffic does

Only way I know how to do this afaik

But asking you to remote work through VPN on your own machine is very suspicious to say the least
Did you sign a contract yet ? Is it a known company ?

[warm oriole]

yye

[warm oriole]

ye guys i know it, but that how the situation looks like. In my country you have few options as contract of employment and my option is works in that way my employer doesnt have any obligations to give my device. MArket is tough so I don't complain

[warm oriole]

vpn is needed to connect to their company things like jira

[warm oriole]

open vpn

[fallow wing]

I know VPN is needed for these kind of things
But with enough social engineering, you could have just installed a privileged hacking path into your machine

I mean, it's a possibility but if that's how things are in your country, then...

[warm oriole]

its real company bro

[fallow wing]

Alright alright

[warm oriole]

so i guess vm is best option

[fallow wing]

Then the VM VPN is your best shot

Yeah

[warm oriole]

so what operating system should be good for that? i dont want it to take much space in my disc

windows is probably only option

[thick minnow]

shouldnt 5g be better w ping and download/upload speed?

[clear igloo]

speed and ping are completely different

one does not impact the other

[thick minnow]

idk im not good w networking and stuff

[clear igloo]

That's fine, just explaining that they don't correlate between each other

[thick minnow]

okay thanks

[fallow wing]

Speed is the amount of data pushed through for a given unit of time
Latency is the speed at which a data packet is transmitted

[clear igloo]

Wireless (wifi/cellular/etc) is more prone to interference and other issues with signal loss which impacts latency
Latency is the time it takes to get from A to B
RTT is the time to A to B and back to A

[fallow wing]

Some tech have a better one over the other, some other are just better overall than another but given some conditions

[thick minnow]

my brain frying

[fallow wing]

You know how sounds echoes back in cavities/mountains

What you hear back is a "ping" from your voice "packet"

The amount of time that it took is RTT
Half of that time (just from you to the mountainside) is the latency

[thick minnow]

you can stop trying to explain to me

i see smoke

[fallow wing]

Ok

[peak cloak]

It's like that for me, but again it's only a student job

but it's a split tunnel, only needed to access the website CMS

[thick minnow]

someone asked me this and i have no idea about it so asking here
FreshTomato, the custom firmware on my router, has built-in nginx. And—mentioning this in case it's necessary/convenient for what I want to do—said nginx has optional php support.

I would like to start using this as an intranet-accessed reverse proxy for custom RSS feeds, assembled with the data it retrieves from the web. As an example, here's something I would want for a GitHub releases feed:

http://192.168.1.1:85/rss/github.html?user=laurent22&repo=joplin&find=.exe

This would make a request to https://api.github.com/repos/laurent22/joplin/releases with my personal access token in the Authorization header, and from the JSON return, assemble and return an RSS feed (in the https://jsonfeed.org/ format) in which one of the release assets matches the wildcard pattern:.exe (Sometimes, a new release tag is added but it won't have any assets because it isn't ready yet.)

That all said, I don't know where to begin to accomplish this framework. I was wondering if you could help with providing me a foundation to start building on.

[polar timber]

Hi! I have a problem that I can't connect to my Wireguard VPN from outside home network. I can connect to it from home network and everything works good (get handshake etc). I have OPNsense as my router and the Wireguard VPN is hosted on the OPNsense. I will send pic of the WAN rule here. Would the problem be that OPNsense has different IP than my ISP 5G modem (ISP 5G Modem= X.X.2.173 and OPNsense= X.X.2.174)? My ISP 5G modem has the public ip APN set so that is not the problem and I have used Wireguard from outside networks before when I had TP-Link Deco as router.

[opal pagoda]

are you behind cgnat?
most cellular provides use cgnat

check if your modem assigned ip is within private ip ranges

also you can check and compare ip of your modem to your public ip

[polar timber]

my public IP is same as my 5G modems WAN ip. OPNsenses WAN ip is always 1 "bigger" than the 5G modems WAN ip. the 5G modem is assigned to ip 192.168.254.22.

[polar timber]

and I dont think that im behind cgnat

[viscid pier]

Hey guys I don't know if the Admins can reach out to the Team or if there is a better way to report this matter, but I just finished watching the latest Techquickie "These Ethernet Cables Are a Scam"! And there was a part that made me question if their information was accurate. They stated that downloading A 50 GB Game from Steam over 40Gbps connection would only take 10 seconds (see screenshot)... What about Overhead (even with jumbo packages) What about unstable connection, network congestion, are we using a Steam Library server in our Home network or are we Downloading Over the internet? maybe we could discuss?
with kind regards

[peak cloak]

it's an approximation, I wouldn't think too deep about this

also jumbo frames wouldn't do anything iirc if over the internet

[viscid pier]

well its way off... by a lot - Like it appears they forgot to convert bits into bytes first

[peak cloak]

50 GB = 400 gigabit.
400 gigabit ÷ 40 gigabit/s = 10s

[viscid pier]

yeah that checks out.

There is still the issue with overhead, network congestion, hardware capabilities in a consumer household.

[peak cloak]

yes overhead would make the time longer, only about 12.5 seconds when using ipv4 standard packet size, network congestion and hardware capabilities are out of the scope of the video, it's just theory

realistically yes, it will take longer

[viscid pier]

I got mixed messages from the video that's all. How I understood, the purpose of this video was to inform consumers about overpriced ethernet cables and help them make more educated decisions when it comes to upgrading their home network cables. What made me look further into the matter was the unrealistic scenario that was used to portray the capabilities of 40Gbits.. the example was not well chosen in my opinion. thx for this interaction I appreciate you taking your time. thank you

[shell anvil]

need some help with router, for port forwarding.
i am following a guide but his router is diverent then mine so not shure where i need to put it.

and mine look like this

so where do i put 443 and where do i put 18443

any help would be appriciate

[viscid pier]

What’s the model of the router you are using? Could look up in the documentation on how robust this mask.

[shell anvil]

fritzbox 7590

[shell anvil]

i tried reading it but i find it confusing what the mean with what it means

[thorn delta]

So you want someone externally to type in the public IP and port 18443 and that will be redirected to 443 running on 192.168.1.101?

In that case, "port to device" will be 443, then "port requested externally" will be 18443

if it's the other way around, reverse it

[shell anvil]

Oke thnx that make sense

[opal pagoda]

on steam there is 0 chance you will get anywhere close to that speed

1. servers dont have such bandwidth to give to single user
2. with local lancache you will be maxing out cpu first becouse steam does processing during download

[true spade]

Hi uh, my wifi was working fine on my pc until yesterday

But then it just stopped working on browsers and discord, it says I'm connected on windows but I can't load anything it says "No Internet" on my browser

I tried doing a network reset through windows, I tried reinstalling my pcie wifi card drivers, I tried reseating the wifi card, none of that seemed to work.

Also I tried connecting to my mobile hotspot and it connected fine, but again the wifi didn't work which suggests to me its a PC problem

[true spade]

(Solved)

[lean pebble]

Hey, can someone help me with fixing my ubiquity edgerouter x-sfp?
The problem is that when using it with network cable to my PC the router doesn't provide internal 1Gb between ports.

The router uses the fiber connection of 1Gbps/down 250Mbps/ down.

Everything works perfectly with my old mikrotik hex-s.

[tepid creek]

Hi, for ages my internet has been performing well under what my plan is supposed to give. I pay for a 540 mb/s internet plan and yet seem to be getting no more then 6 mb/s while updating or downloading anything. I use 2 adaptors, one connected to my pc and one connected to my router. What could be the cause?

[wheat dome]

Cat 7 or bust.

[opal pagoda]

lmao no
anything more than cat6a doesent make sense

[wheat dome]

CAT 7 RAW Cable (Cat6connectors)
https://www.proshop.se/Naetverkskabel/CAT-6A-SFTP-PiMF-500-MHz-with-CAT-7-raw-cable/2984918

[opal pagoda]

feel free to use terra conenectors

[steep stirrup]

i set up jellyfin, i only had a cat3 cable lying around, but im perfectly able to output 4k video to my TV without buffering

i was expecting that old cable to be a bottleneck

[steep stirrup]

anyways, its awesome, up until i set it up i was manually connecting HDMI to my pc like a caveman

[mystic latch]

Unless you're doing like remux versions, 4k is usually < 50Mbps bitrate.

[steep stirrup]

i know its 120mbps, its the jellyfish video test

[clever burrow]

do power line adapters actually work my router is a floor beneath and on the other side of my house

my houses wires are really old id if that would effect anything bc of their configuration and what not

i also looked in to moca but i don’t think there is a coax cable on the second floor

[blazing mantle]

hi everyone, im currently using the provided ISP router/modem, and ive seen many people say getting my own will increase performance, is there any starter ones you could reccomend for me? for some info I have WOWWAY and they do support my own router, and I also have 1000 mb/s (1gig)

[opal pagoda]

do you want consumer stuff or do you want to tinker with it?
also budget

[blazing mantle]

i dont really wanna get too deep into it, I was thinking about 100-150 bucks nothing too wild

[ornate jungle]

They can work - all depends on how your house is wired. I always recommend buying PowerLine adapters from stores with a good return policy in case they don't work for your exact needs.

[silent flax]

yes, but you might be hitting issues if the wiring is completely separate

[clever burrow]

is there any way to check

[silent flax]

you could have three phase input and separate sections of house being wired with separate phases

you just try it, there is not much else

[clever burrow]

i see thank you

[silent flax]

i guess i will grab one of these, at 50 euros i can write it off as loss if it will work bad 🙂

[clever burrow]

i might have to go searching for the coax things in my house

[tranquil plover]

does unifi work with apple homekit?

[silent flax]

what do you mean by "work with"

[tranquil plover]

like outdoor cameras live view

unifi protect at all

[silent flax]

https://www.apple.com/home-app/accessories/

Unify is not listed, so it doesn't offer features into homekit, if that is what you ask

https://community.ui.com/questions/UniFi-Protect-with-HomeKit-Setup-Guide/3c47cc46-560c-4fcc-9eaa-d159a16c77e0 FYI

[ornate jungle]

If you mean "do Unifi Protect Cameras work with Apple HomeKit?" the answer looks to be "no" at least out of the box. There looks to be a third party integration solution called "HomeBridge" but no clue how well it works.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeKit/comments/n9376j/homekit_devices_on_unifi_network_recommendations/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/tnlnui/ubiquitihomekit_integration_need_advice_am/

[ornate jungle]

Also, this @tranquil plover - Apple / Unifi don't officially integrate. Welcome to walled garden hell.

[tranquil plover]

i think homebridge its a somtehing like linux based mini server

[silent flax]

your best solution is probably go Home Assistant route and integrate Homekit to that instead.

[clever burrow]

is there any other alternative to the power line adapters

[ornate jungle]

You could drill holes in your walls and run your own ethernet / fiber wiring... but I'ma guess you don't want to go that route. 😄 For wired connectivity, you're basically limited to PowerLine AV, MoCA (if the home has Coax wiring), or running your own ethernet / fiber cables.

[clever burrow]

unfortunately i only have like half of year of living in this house so that is not a very good option lmao

[ornate jungle]

Then I'd try PowerLine AV. Makes the most sense if you're going to move too, since you can easily take the adapters with you to the new home.

[tranquil plover]

what do you mean by Home Assistant route

[clever burrow]

are certain ethernet cables faster than others like cat6

or does it not matter if it’s going through electrical wiring

[silent flax]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/unifiprotect/
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/homekit/

That your central "home" automation center will be Home Assistant and not Homekit

and you will integrate stuff into Home Assistant

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/homekit_controller/

[ornate jungle]

For most consumers running 1gbit, you don't need anything more than good quality Cat5E up to 300ft, but if the price of Cat6/a cable is close to Cat5e, you may as well buy that as it's certified for higher speeds should you ever upgrade to say... 1.5gbit, 2gbit, etc. (Or should you want to do homelab / IT things.)

[tranquil plover]

so its like unifi > home assistant > homekit? instead of homebridge

[clever burrow]

i have to test the speeds first bc i feel like i might just not have good internet in general but it’s definitely worse in my room

[silent flax]

Cat5e will do 10Gbe, just not officially and to smaller distances

[ornate jungle]

Yeep, technically it will - I just don't advertise that. Too many friends and family members buy shoddy / cheap Cat5e cable, then complain when it doesn't work. 😄 Funny story though... my home internet has had its WAN to Router link connected at 1gbit via a "patch cable" I made 15 years ago by simply twisting the pairs of 2 ends of an ethernet cable together. I like to live dangerously.

[thorn delta]

I have the 4 port 2.5G with 2 SFP+ and it does a decent enough job, well close enough model at least, all the no-name china ones are probably all similar inside

[clever burrow]

i get 300 mbps down and like 157 up pretty close to the router

[silent flax]

that, or just plug everything to Home Assistant. Both Unify and Homekit devices.

[tranquil plover]

id like to use stock apple Home app

[silent flax]

but as i and Kirashi linked before, there is a 3rd party "fake" homekit device to integrate Unify into homekit

[silent flax]

then first try https://homebridge.io/

[tranquil plover]

so i think i have to run it on rpi or something?

[tranquil plover]

i have to research more abt these 2 methods

with home assistant looks more clear for me

[silent flax]

Homebridge will look like a normal Homekit device to your Homekit setup. With Home Assistant you have to set up HA and then possibly "export" it to Homekit. I would say Homebridge is probably going to be easier to set up

[tranquil plover]

like i said, research is needed

[clever burrow]

is it possible for a wifi card for a computer to have significantly worse speeds than my phone

[meager ginkgo]

You can keep on using it with Home Assistant. You just link the devices to Home Assistant first then you can bridge HA to HomeKit and control everything there while being simultaneously in HA.

Home Assistant Dashboards are extremely customizable though so it may be worth giving the HA mobile app a try with some of the community made dashboards.

They even have ones that look like HomeKit but can display a ton more info such as weather radars, tv remotes etc

As an example.

[restive sail]

Hey is there a openwrt/networking god that can help with my problem? i posted in the #1027757333117415424

[ornate jungle]

Absolutely possible - different devices can contain different WiFi chipsets with different antenna configurations. In fact, some $1500 CAD gaming laptops have garbo 1x1 antenna WiFi cards, resulting in abysmal speeds, while some $800 CAD business laptops have 2x2 antenna WiFi cards with decent speeds.

[clever burrow]

unfortunately i tested it and it was better than my phone so i no longer see a point in getting the adapters lol

[umbral dove]

can someone give me good isp suggestions, i have been complaining to my isp for months about ping spikes and packet loss and they won't do anything to help me other than tell me to "buy public ip" and it's making some games straight unplayable

sadly my area doesn't have google fiber so that's off the list

[thorn delta]

That really depends where you are.
If you're in the US, use this site: https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home
For Canada, there's this: https://ised-isde.canada.ca/app/scr/sittibc/web/bbmap?lang=eng#!/map

[umbral dove]

damn they have literally nothing for my area

we in the slums fr

[low pond]

Comcast

[open ravine]

My internet company supplied with with frankly a terrible Wifi6 router, and i cannot connect my Steam Deck (on windows) to my Wifi, or even connect via a USB Wifi dongle

Should i buy a newer Netgear router that i will have full control over to replace it or should i call my internet company in a few hours?

[fallow wing]

Wooooooo
My router mini PC got dropped at my house !
Finally, I can torture test the poor thing get some progress done with my network expansion project

[fallow wing]

Maybe the router just got a problem or faulty component

[silent flax]

i just wish the whole IoT market wouldn't be this horrible - like Tuya is horrible etc 🙂

[deft lagoon]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005997139398.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000013.4.6d74JqmPJqmPvx&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=c25912cb-e238-4285-a512-a7493e43360d&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.291025.0,pvid:c25912cb-e238-4285-a512-a7493e43360d,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238113%231998&pdp_npi=4%40dis!SEK!1500.21!1275.14!!!130.11!110.59!%402101ec1a17047211758388745ea0a2!12000035232234447!rec!SE!!AB#nav-review

Y'all think this would work well with OPNSense?

[silent flax]

i226 seems to be supported in FreeBSD, see this thread from 2022 https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=29903.0
Rest i doubt there would be much issues with, usually what i remember was linux having issues with C states with Bay Trail Atoms, not sure if it is still a thing.

[deft lagoon]

Anyone have experience with buying stuff like this from aliexpress?

[silent flax]

@fallow wing ordered this https://www.servethehome.com/the-everything-fanless-home-server-firewall-router-and-nas-appliance-qotom-qnap-teamgroup/ 🙂

in general, with chinese systems like this, you have to count on a chance of following issues (most of which are not relevant to your use case):

• possibly no BIOS updates (which could contain RAM compatibility fixed)
• often there are sleep mode issues
• USB3 freezing issues
• fan control is often limited

but fan control & sleep mode is irrelevant for your use case, USB3 is probably not going to be used heavily, so most likely you are not going to have serious issues

[deft lagoon]

Yeah, no only thing I'll be using is the RJ45s

[silent flax]

just saying what are typical issues of "China motherboards", which these systems are similar to - in the end it is just a purpose specific China board instead of general China board

[deft lagoon]

Alright, thanks alot!

[silent flax]

btw have you considered going with N100 instead ?

[deft lagoon]

Yeah but thats DDR5 right?

[silent flax]

yes it is

[deft lagoon]

I saw this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004360072281.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.19.4655698bgS6zvO&algo_pvid=498d8b73-f119-4bd9-be08-52d13134ddae&aem_p4p_detail=2024010805220113246303525408000000228833&algo_exp_id=498d8b73-f119-4bd9-be08-52d13134ddae-9&pdp_npi=4%40dis!SEK!2744.52!1427.14!!!261.04!!%40211b61bb17047201218964547e7455!12000036190395669!sea!SE!0!AB&curPageLogUid=r2Uka8BvfFK2&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A&search_p4p_id=2024010805220113246303525408000000228833_2

which has an alternative for N100, but only 1 memory slot and ddr5 is more expensive no?

[silent flax]

a bit more, but nothing extreme at this stage. N100 is just more powerfull tho, so it might be worth considering

[deft lagoon]

I thought about it but just the barebones system costs like 50% more for the N100

[silent flax]

around 25% more perfomance vs N6000

well, it's up to you, about what will you run on it on top of basic features

[deft lagoon]

Yeah, but from what I've seen most people get like 10% cpu usage with their J4125s, and I only have like 250 mbit internet

I would like to run some firewall stuff and ip blocking

[silent flax]

well for basic NAT-ing sure. Once you add QoS, packet inspection etc, you can hit performance walls quick

also VPN encryption can be a killer

[deft lagoon]

Even at speeds like 100 to 250 mbit?

I'll have to think about it. Thanks for the help

[silent flax]

a random video with N5105 https://youtu.be/GkTZqZRQebM?t=97

that guy OpenVPN vs Wireguard had like 30-40% lower performance (but still like 400Mbps at worst)

[deft lagoon]

I think I'll go for the N6000 since I'm on a bit of a budget, (university student), and it's more of a fun thing for me.

[silent flax]

i used this for some time https://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC311U93.html

but i replaced it with a miniITX ivy bridge system due more RAM and more SSD storage options 😛

i think the only issues i had with that Jetway was coil whine and Linux Intel driver crashes (can be fixed by ethtool -K eth0 gso off tso off)

[deft lagoon]

Okay, nice. Hmm I summed it up and the N100 would be like $60-70 more expensive

[silent flax]

i was thinking about a differnt product, but at 150 euros for the barebones alone it just doesn't make sense to me at 30 euro/year electricity usage difference

these (T9 Plus)

it's 2x 2.5gbe, it has easily accessible M.2 2242 slot and it has soldered RAM (which i do not mind for this kind of product)

i mean it's so small 😄

but again, at 150-170 euro it costs it just doesn't make financial sense, as 30W vs 6W idle will only bring in 30 euro per year energy savings

[deft lagoon]

I mean it looks nice but I don't feel like buying a 2242 ssd

I already have a sata 2.5" from my old pc

though it doesn't cost much extra to buy it with one

Oh it only has gigabit though, I'd like 2.5gbit just for fun lol

ik it'll be totally useless but still

[silent flax]

ah yeah, i might forgot that, i only have 500mbps internet and router is really not relevant to network speeds (most of networking runs between computers in LAN, thus switch is the weak link)

[deft lagoon]

yeah, 2.5gbit switches too expensive for me to want to buy one rn.

Thanks for all the help.

[silent flax]

just bought one china switch for 69 euros (8x2.5gbe + 1x 10gbe SFP+) with a Copper SFP+ 10Gbe module for 35.7 euros. Minus 10 euros via coupons, so 97.4 euros total

will still need 2 more switches (one 6 port and one "i have yet to decide how many ports"), but this will cover the "tech corner" (that is my server, my desktop, few other computers in that corner) with 10gbe between the server and switch, and then 2.5gbe elsewhere

[deft lagoon]

are switches fine to buy from aliexpress aswell?

[silent flax]

first one i ordered 🤷‍♂️

[deft lagoon]

i forget, whats the difference between unmanaged and managed switches?

unmanaged is fine right?

[silent flax]

managed = has a interface, can do VLANs and other functionality

unmanaged = just moves packets 🙂

[deft lagoon]

ah, right

[silent flax]

like 99% they are all the same thing, just with different labels https://www.servethehome.com/davuaz-da-k9801w-8-port-2-5gbe-1-port-10gbe/

[deft lagoon]

I'll probably buy one of those aswell then

[meager ginkgo]

A lot of it can be blocked from the internet and used only on the LAN. Tuya too 😉 — but I totally get what you mean. It’s really segmented even after the release of matter.

[silent flax]

With tuya i mean the whole 'must use our platform which only has trial you can repeatedly extend' issur. Localtuya still needs the keys from somewhere, so that is not an option.

[meager ginkgo]

Ah yeah. I got rid of all my Tuya stuff a while ago.

using some WiFi devices, zwave and zigbee.

and Lutron/HomeKit

[meager ginkgo]

https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/u7-pro

[silent flax]

i mean i don't mind the devices i got with Tuya, i don't really need to integrate them into HA, it would be only nice. I only got two types of Tuya devices - a PC switch (it can "press" your power or reset button remotely, via tuya protocol) and few smart plugs (same "remote switch functionality", plus power metering). All those are really just for turning on something when i am not at home (so i can remote into my desktop PC for exampel).

would be nice to have it in Home Assistant ? Sure. Will i cry about having to use Smart Life app for that ? no

[fallow wing]

This brand actually does sporadic BIOS updates, my particular box being updated October '23
Sleep mode shouldn't be an issue since they are most likely to be used as routers/firewalls so I doubt they get to sleep
Didn't hear issues about USB3 but that's obviously within the realm of possibilities
My box and I think the one dude linked above are fanless so...

[fallow wing]

Intel chips with quik-something handles VPN encrypt, right ?

[fallow wing]

That's normal, OpenVPN is like an encyclopedia worth of lines of code, Wireguard is a few thousands, the process is much simpler because it's that optimized

[silent flax]

I mean if you look at Miyconst reviews of china x99 and other boards, it is a common issue with data transfers on those boards

[silent flax]

I meant that encryption can require lot from cpu at high speeds via openvpn

[fallow wing]

Of course

[mystic latch]

I just discovered PPSK on omada and feel like an idiot for never noticing. They've had it available for over a year. It's very nice having a single wifi and clients get assigned to a vlan based on their passwords. So if you have omada or unifi, give PPSK a try if you haven't before!

[thick minnow]

Hello, I am from the Netherlands and i need some support. I am looking for a good gaming/wifi router under $400 euro's

[silent flax]

man, these Realtek 2.5gbe cards are getting supercheap

and Intel 226 cards aren't that much more expensive (well, let's hope they aren't fake chips and that they aren't adding extra snooping features 😄 )

and then there are the X540-T2 10gbe cards for 15 euros or so too... Too bad those are overheating like crazy, and need active cooling

[gusty storm]

take one for the team and let us know if it's legit 🙏

[silent flax]

i bought two of the Intel ones some time ago, waiting for delivery (hopefully this week)

i paid 18 eurof for mine on 29th Dec, but it is same thing (even same brand, Fenvi)

that and this, but this switch will take some time to arrive cause i ordered it today 😄

[gusty storm]

how much was it out of interest

[silent flax]

it is 68 euros before coupons

[gusty storm]

❤️ cheers

[silent flax]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005979888507.html

(they have 4+2, 5+1 and 8+1 models, so you need to select the right one to see your price)

my favorite purchase this holiday season is still this tho

finally found a cable to be able to plug a SATA drive into my Jetway mini PC 😄

[gusty storm]

What's the white connector on the left?

[silent flax]

power. but that was the main issue, the Jetway board had this weird connector. But Aliexpress calls the little white connector "XH2.54"

like this

[gusty storm]

ahhhh, it reminded me of molex a bit but wasn't 100%

[silent flax]

it was a board like this in a small NUC sized computer, you can see the connector between the mini SATA and SATA connector

was my router until not so long ago

N2930, good enough, but storage was very limiting, as mSATA drives are way too expensive

[thorn delta]

I've used it on Cambium cnPilot wifi for a while, it's great for having different networks without clogging up the SSID list, which can reduce performance a bit because of all beaconing

[gusty storm]

just like m.2 sata drives

[opal pagoda]

no, diffrence is that msata ones arent being made on mass anymore while m.2 sata ones are
luckly you can buy a adapter

[keen urchin]

just what every home needs

[silent flax]

no space, look at the board picture above

[opal pagoda]

there do exist cheap ones from ali x

[clear igloo]

@hollow marlin
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/hewlett-packard-enterprise-nears-13-bln-deal-buy-juniper-networks-wsj-2024-01-08/
This could be interesting if it turns out to be true

[rocky badge]

FUCK i was about to send that

[silent flax]

meanwhile Broadcom is killing any remaining good name vmware had

[clear igloo]

yah, that's a huge shit show

[silent flax]

https://www.crn.com/news/virtualization/2024/broadcom-takes-top-vmware-accounts-direct-effective-immediately

[clear igloo]

Was just reading that, haha

[silent flax]

if i was having an esxi install at home, i would seriously start looking around for replacement, because i suspect we seen the last free esxi release

and last month https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/12/broadcom-ends-vmware-perpetual-license-sales-testing-customers-and-partners/

[clear igloo]

yup, 100%

[silent flax]

and in general, even at big companies, i would start looking at replacement, Microsoft might be laughing in the background

cause with this style, you never know when will Broadcom hit you with 200-500% price increase per year

[opal pagoda]

could hyperv be a viable replacemet for it?

[silent flax]

sure, why not

they even got a bare metal hypervisor https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2019

[opal pagoda]

i might bring that up with the server team, licensing is probably much cheaper than vmware

[silent flax]

or you know, proxmox is also a thing, and one can buy paid support if required. But business people might not like a "small company" for solutions like virtualization

[opal pagoda]

yea i would use that but they dont wanna use it

[silent flax]

it all depends on what you actually expect from the hypervisor tho. Not sure if Hyper-V does PCIe passthrough for example, but in big installs, that is usually not something people do

[opal pagoda]

i dont belive our vm-s are using that

[mystic latch]

Yea. Makes me feel a little more with the times of fanciness

[thorn delta]

I'm kinda bummed out. Their MX204 was on the upper limit of what I could justify at work, and then they basically couldn't get us one for over a year, so we cancelled the order. Then they EOLed the MX204 and replaced it with an even more expensive MX304, which is way overkill for what we need. And with them being bought by HP, I imagine they'll raise prices yet again

[clear igloo]

Yah, it's going to be interesting to say the least to see how pricing and avail plays out if/when this goes through

[thorn delta]

I will say, the Aruba switches I've played around with have been pretty great and I wished they had a router of that caliber in their lineup

Plan B was just to rock greymarket/refurb MX204s if the Mikrotik CCR2216 routers didn't work, but they're just working well enough for us

[tribal star]

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[meager ginkgo]

Have you considered using wake on LAN with Home Assistant for the PC?