networking

[rocky badge]

Do you want control over the stuff

Or actually send Dante/artnet/sACN over the wifi

If it’s the latter, do NOT. Those protocols do not like WiFi/high latency/latency deviation

But to send WiFi down and then convert to Ethernet you’re looking at a p2p wireless bridge

[narrow onyx]

I have a problem with ethernet right now where once I put the cable in, it shows no internet. My PCIe GbE controller is up to date. Wifi wirelessly works fine. Thanks

[peak latch]

??? It’s just an internet connection. A laptop plugged into Ethernet for network access and then also connected to a projector to display to an audience

[rocky badge]

Ok if it’s just an internet connection then that’s fine

[narrow onyx]

Ethernet says no internet. Drivers are up to date. Any solutions?

[vocal pilot]

Looking for a good router that fits my budget of $24 😅

These 2 fits my budget, so can anyone help me which one to get, or if you have any suggestions.

https://www.tp-link.com/in/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-c60/

Or

https://www.tp-link.com/in/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-c64/

[bright sedge]

idm a maybe bc i have the best internet plan i can get, only money i can spend is to make the speeds i pay for consistent and high

[astral holly]

So I’m currently trying to replace my AP (1gbps) with my server.

It’s got WIFI 6 connectivity and I have room for a 4 port 2.5gbs PCIE card.

I wanna reduce latency by removing a switch from the chain.

It’s the middle point between internet and the ap downstairs

[clear igloo]

Does your WiFi 6 card support AP mode?
A switch adds a couple nanoseconds worth of latency, it's pointless to remove it and do CPU based switching with a NIC card like that

[astral holly]

Yes. I’m just trying to remove bottlenecks from my network. You’re saying a 2.5gb switch would be better? Even though it’s another device?

[clear igloo]

Yes, 100%, otherwise your server is going to do switching in CPU and that WILL add noticable latency

[astral holly]

I see Currently the config is modem > AP > dns server (ran by AP) > client.

The dns server is connected to the network via the AP.

I basically have my router doubling as a switch

[clear igloo]

That's a combo unit, it's got a switch ASIC inside

[astral holly]

I mean my AP. The fios router/modem is just feeding internet in another room. I have my AP in my room which is connecting the dns server

Is there a way to buy a standalone hardware asic and add it in my server via PCIE Or something?

[astral holly]

Oh and also. Does the ASUS ax92u support any third party firmware? Like dd-WRT?

[clear igloo]

No, that's not how that works at all
It's high added complexity for near zero benefit

[clear igloo]

Couldn't tell you, you'd have to google model + third party firmware or something to see if anything pops up

[obtuse nimbus]

so me and my family are moving into a new house soon and we want a wifi mesh system that supports speeds up to one gig for the cheapest price. Does anyone have a good system?

(also forgot to mention, maybe wifi 6 if possible)

[keen urchin]

You absolutely want wifi6

[pseudo blade]

Ah, RB5009. You have the one with the all-port bidirectional PoE config I see.

[nimble sable]

what does add noticable latency? aside from Wifi?

[clear igloo]

processing time (punt to CPU), interference, retransmissions, buffering (QoS) or buffering from oversubscribed interface and distance

[nimble sable]

has anyone used Tp-link's Omada APs? I'm trying to find out if i need a controller. with unifi and netgear i can find a list of features that are usable without controller and features that need controller but i can't seem to for tp-link. Aside from the obvious (deployment to multiple devices is easier etc and remote access) is there anything i'll be missing if i use standalone mode? or are there no actual feature differences and the only difference is that controller can change setting on many devices and sync them up?

[feral agate]

My internet is being super weird rn so i normaly get 100 ish upand down and randomly it will be at 100 then 0

[mint flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1161410493299314708/image.png?ex=653832cf&is=6525bdcf&hm=e5a292c69b171bb8c8a5e306d6e2549c5b1acfc03285ab4ce09d6946f1d1ff3a&

please help me

using wifi, it freezes hard asf for a lil thejn comes back

[long scarab]

the cable going to the raspberry pi hurts my soul

[keen urchin]

not my picture, I just ordered one - I wanted something I could use with my 10gbswitch

[pseudo blade]

Router on a stick?

Otherwise probably not that helpful for you.

[keen urchin]

hmmm? Why not that helpful

[pseudo blade]

It has precisely one 10 gigabit interface

[keen urchin]

My internet is only gig, and it's only internal stuff on 10gig, and I don't really NEED it

[pseudo blade]

Well in that case you don't need 10 gig to the router lol

Can't use 10 gig to the router

[keen urchin]

yes, but this way I can route between VLANs as well

[pseudo blade]

-On a stick :P

[keen urchin]

I didn't need 10gig at all 😄

but the switch was priced very agressively at $0

and I decided it was FINALLY time to build my network at home properly with vlans.

[pseudo blade]

It's just sparkling gigabit in that architecture

VLANs are cool

[keen urchin]

absolutely isn't - it just limits the throughput between vlans

which... is still a LOT more than 1gb

[pseudo blade]

No chance your free switch has L3 capabilities?

[keen urchin]

it absolutely does

[pseudo blade]

I'd do inter-vlan on that and leave the Tik for DHCP+internet+misc network services

But I guess not doing that's highly viable

[keen urchin]

nah the VLANs are cameras, iot, servers+desktops

[pseudo blade]

Oh cool so you could use 100mbps :P

[keen urchin]

yes, literally 😄

[pseudo blade]

Very nice free switch though, even if it probably conned you into going overkill on the router

[keen urchin]

yeah but the point is that this is for the next probably 5-10 years. I have a solid base to do whatever now.

[pseudo blade]

Yeah fair, Mikrotik support their stuff for basically forever

It'll likely be useless to you long before they kill support

[keen urchin]

I was initially looking at an N5000 intel type system with opnsense or something, but the mikrotik was a value for money that's hard to beat

especially with a reasonably priced rackmount kit

[pseudo blade]

I guess the difference is that you can stick a bunch of RAM in a router PC and run a few VMs on it

[keen urchin]

NO!

[pseudo blade]

Mikrotik's container support is... immature

[keen urchin]

server is for serving

router is for routing.

[pseudo blade]

My router is a server and my server is a router

Where is your god now?

[keen urchin]

"lol doing some container stuff" "lol oops broke the router, now there's no internet, sorry family"

like... that was fine when I was young, but these days I want reliability

[blazing karma]

Time to prep for the 48 port 1gb switch after this

[keen urchin]

that is many ports

[pseudo blade]

I'm not big on routers in hypervisors for SOHO or even SME networks because redundancy is rarely considered

[blazing karma]

Sub 300$ switch for 10gb, now just gotta get the final 1g in

[keen urchin]

exactly

[pseudo blade]

But it's different when you know why a router in a VM sucks so you can make it not suck

[keen urchin]

yeah, like if you're skint, or hacking shit up, A+ go for it

but I also want to be able to break shit without stopping other things working

[pseudo blade]

Not even, but you want it replicated and highly available if you do it

[keen urchin]

High availability is overrated. Odds are you'll have more problems with that than you would with seperate components

(when you're talking about DIY home level stuff)

[pseudo blade]

Certainly not a problem for me lol

[keen urchin]

... and even on prem stuff, a lot of the time it's shit

[pseudo blade]

But as said I don't do it where others can/might screw with it or if converging it doesn't make sense

[keen urchin]

but yeah the thing is for tech people, it tends to favour their specialties, and stuff they can easily get/use

[pseudo blade]

Yeah special clever shit only you understand is not for production with other employees

But yeah I have a router in the cloud I need for stuff and code running on local routers I don't expect to have constant internet connectivity but need extra logic in regardless

[keen urchin]

also I got burned by my server CPU going slowly dead over a month or more and just increasingly frequently locking up

ended up replacing the motherboard first, then the CPU. ah well.

[pseudo blade]

Ehh...

That's solvable by not putting all your eggs in one basket

[keen urchin]

yeah that's my point

[pseudo blade]

Same problem can happen with router hardware too

[keen urchin]

waiting for a unifi 8 port poe switch and an AC WAP to be decommissioned to add those to the setup

[pseudo blade]

Wish I had people discarding decent network gear lol

[keen urchin]

haha, yeah this is more changing vendor than discarding as such

[pseudo blade]

Shop in front is still clinging desperately to their Catalyst 2950

[keen urchin]

hahahahahaa shiiiiiiit

amazed none of the caps have died

[pseudo blade]

Router's an 887va I think

For NBN VDSL, which it's a bit sorry at handling

A Steam download running at 40mbps was enough for it to stop serving other clients until it stopped

[keen urchin]

lol

[pseudo blade]

The correct location for that hardware is a museum, or a skip

[keen urchin]

I'm on gig NBN FTTP, I'm currently just using google wifi because I decided I didn't care and I didn't want to have a complex home network setup.

Obviously I have given up on that.

[pseudo blade]

lol

If only NBN's higher speed plans weren't cripplingly expensive so we can pretend FTTN wasn't a bad idea

[keen urchin]

but I have a suspicion the google router is limiting my top end throughput slightly! zomg

omg, 1000/50 is fine, but 1000/400? oh yeah fuck you

1000/1000? LOL "business plan"

[pseudo blade]

1000/50 is a stupid, spiteful config to sell

1000/400 was once supposed to be the standard for a consumer offering

[keen urchin]

it's hilarious because my VDSL was 100/40

[pseudo blade]

Remember: only businesses need high-speed uploads, that's why social media and game streaming doesn't exist

[keen urchin]

exactly

and certainly, there's NO way that people don't use high speed uploads because they don't want to pay for them and/or can't access them

and that doesn't affect the market AT ALL

[pseudo blade]

I'd use them if they didn't cost a kidney a month

[keen urchin]

I'm with launtel, so if I need to I can crank it to 400 up for the day, but IIRC it's like 2.5x the price vs 1000/50

which is completely nonsensical

it's not like you're saving ... money ... or .. internet... or ... anything. The services you're putting to support it are symmetric, at least to some degree.

[pseudo blade]

Close to, especially because residential customers use less upload on average anyways

[keen urchin]

"oh no I want a one way internet pipe please"

[pseudo blade]

GPON's something like 2.5/1

[keen urchin]

"Give me one of those 10/1 ethernet adapters"

[fallen bay]

hey everyone, I´m looking into buying a home surveilence system for our small farm.
I already have a managed POE Allied Telesis 8 port switch and I want to have a system with about 3 cameras that are controlled by whatever software on my homeserver and store tehir footage on my homeserver, idealy they only record actual footage on my server when there is movement in the video so they dont just fill up my storage with useless footage. I dont want any of those things that auto upload everything into some kind of cloud storage or whatever. I want it to be local only. It´s nice if that selfhosted software allows some kind of online connection with push notifications to phones etc but having everything stored local only without sending data to some 3rd party in china is my priority for now.

If anyone has some recomendations on what software to use to controll the cameras and which outdor poe cameras to use I´d be really happy to hear from you

[frail swift]

Hi, I really don't get this, can somebody help me understand please?

In a Homelab setup, why does one need a managed switch, when they are using a seperate router that manages the DHCP VLAN etc.?

[peak cloak]

a managed switch is needed if you want to have multiple VLANS on a single switch

it's kinda hard to explain via text

the packets get tagged on the trunk port

and untagged on the access ports, but you can lets say keep it tagged if it's going to a server or similar and want to access other vlans

or for example an AP, where you may have a managament VLAN

[frail swift]

but what you're telling is a comparison between a managed vs unmanaged switch, no? I'm designing a network that I'd like to implement soon, but I'm still in the learning phase.

I only had a router and multiple 4-8 port dumb switched until now. If I lift the cheap WIFI router from the equation, I'd need a firewall and a managed switch, as well as ...something acting as the DHCP server?

This is what I have in mind

Which device should be serving the DHCP?

[peak cloak]

DHCP is a service on a server. A switch doesn't do that

Basically every router/firewall can serve a DHCP server

[frail swift]

So maybe if I give that task to my DNS server, it would be okay (so just using PiHole's DHCP settings)

Routers, yes sure, but I won't be having/needing a router in this network no? A wifi router is a combination of Firewall-AP-DHCP anyways?

[peak cloak]

usually a firewall is a router on a technical aspect

it just does basic routing + NAT

and not even basic routing sometimes more advanced stuff like BGP

[frail swift]

thanks mate it made it clearer 👍

[quaint siren]

So I have networking homework to do in Cisco Packet Tracer.
I have set up a router, switch, 6pcs (1 laptop) and 3 servers.
Each server has its own thing to do, first being DHCP server, 2nd is DNS and 3rd is WEB server.

Problem is that I was provided a guide to follow but few lines confuses me.
Add A entry for WEB server, i.e. when the client enters the URL "website URL" in the Web Browser of the computer, the web page offered by the server is opened. Test operation.

Also add records for DNS and DHCP server in such a way that they are in the subdomain of "website URL". Take a screenshot of the records and test the client on the machine using the ping command (pings by name) and add a screenshot of them as well.

Add a DNS record that would create an alias for "website url" so that when the user enters "website URL" as URL, the web page provided by the WEB server is also opened.

The "add A entry for Web server", I don't see a way to do an entry other than on DNS server

[thick minnow]

DNS A records are what you put in DNS config files

you assign a hostname to an IPv4 or IPv6 address

[hollow marlin]

Most enterprise managed switches can perform DHCP server functions. I'd still let the router/firewall handle it though

[quaint siren]

Ye so problem is that I did add the hostname to an IPv4 address and I couldn't get the website to open on one of the PCs

[meager ginkgo]

Frigate is a pretty good AI NVR

Scrypted NVR is another good option if you care deeply about the UI, but they charge quarterly I believe

[waxen scroll]

nope. def would let windows or bluecat do it

or (insert server here)

[hollow marlin]

I was just referring to that instance. DHCP-relay and a server is the proper way

[rocky badge]

@hollow marlin @peak cloak I am trying to use an EC2 instance as a public IP for a VM behind NAT that I can't port forward with. I'm trying to use iptables but its not forwarding correctly. Any ideas?

[hollow marlin]

Assuming there is a tunnel from the VM to the instance? Also, can you confirm that the distro you are using is actually using iptables? We have production severs running a mix of distros and during upgrades, it was a PIA with changes in what process handled routing. Ex iptables and nftables running simultaneously

[hollow axle]

Iptables is super fussy

[hollow axle]

Are you trying to proxy to another ec2? Or are you using it like a cloud gateway?

[shrewd zenith]

my home network consisits of the primary router connected to a secondary router with a different SSID that is beiung used as a switch, every 18 hours or so its connection to the internet just decided to crap out until i unplug the WAN port on it for 30 seconds, anyone know whats going on here

[rocky badge]

@hollow axle
I have a VM behind NAT that I can't get out of and an EC2 instance with 2 network interfaces, 2 Elastic IPs (one to each), and each Elastic IP has an internal IP on the EC2 instance. These two have a WireGuard connection between them and that's all working fine.

I want to use the second Elastic IP/internal IP from the EC2 instance to route all traffic to the VM while preserving source IP. Basically use the EC2's public IP as the IP for the VM behind NAT.

Security groups are fine in AWS and the EC2 instance can see traffic hitting the IP but it ends there, its not going through the WG tunnel or hitting the VM.

[mossy slate]

is there a huge difference between a CAT5e and a CAT7 ethernet cable?

should i really upgrade to a cat7?

[clear igloo]

No, you shouldn't upgrade to a standard that requires a new connector that isn't compatible with RJ45 ends

[shrewd zenith]

depends if your use case would benefit from the higher speeds or not

[clear igloo]

Cat6a is fine if you need 10g up to 100m, otherwise 5e is plenty

[shrewd zenith]

Depends if the cable is terminated with GG45 or TERA. GG45 is backward comparable TERA isnt AFAIK

[clear igloo]

Interesting, I forgot GG45 was part of the ISO spec

I always remember TERA as part of it though

[hollow marlin]

As I am not familiar AWS, do you have a diagram for the design?

@clear igloo @waxen scroll Also

1. PingPlotter is a tool that creates more problems than it fixes
2. Engineers that only provide a traceroute regarding an issue and confidently say there is an issue at hop X while not knowing how to understand a trace should have their pay reallocated to me for the amount of time I spend to explain how traceroutes work and request more details
   

[clear igloo]

Agreed 1000% 😄

@hollow marlin I'm seeing latency at hop X, can you fix pl0x 😛

I saw traceroute stop there so help?????

[hollow marlin]

There is latency and loss at hop 8 and it's impacting traffic to this destination

Ok, well there is no increase in latency or packet loss to the destination sooooo....

[clear igloo]

When you learn the basics and then regress but know words

[hollow marlin]

To top if off, the "issue at hop X" is 3 hops outside our network within one of our transit providers

[clear igloo]

haha, that must be extra fun to explain to them

[hollow marlin]

Sadly, it's one of our largest customer who is also a regional SP which we provide transit for

This is not the first similar conversation either

[clear igloo]

yuck

@hollow marlin Have you gotten rid of all your RSA keys yet :>

[waxen scroll]

We're in the middle

[clear igloo]

Qulays is starting to complain about them now for SSH =/

[hollow marlin]

Wait, what's going now with the keys!?!?

[clear igloo]

Qualys hates RSA now 😦

[hollow marlin]

I guess I am not familiar with Qualys

[clear igloo]

Ah, it's a security compliance scanner thing

It's a pain in my rear end dealing with financial customers 😦

[hollow marlin]

I see that via google. What's their proposed replacement?

[clear igloo]

ecdsa or eddsa

basically sha1 and rsa bad for everything now

[hollow marlin]

Oh great! I was thinking recently that I need more acronyms to learn and add to the pile 😆

[clear igloo]

Haha, yah, nothing like some more acronyms

[hollow marlin]

Well I know we should have another PCI audit shortly. Curious if they pick up the few remaining devices not using AAA

[pseudo blade]

Pff

[long oxide]

Hi there peeps.

I'm in a time of great need. What's the best alternative for RadminVPN or Hamachi to use on both Windows and Android (Linux in the future) systems? I need to have access to my files and gaming servers from my phone occasionally. (I'm using Radmin and Hamachi for others to join btw)

[pseudo blade]

Why don't I just use Simon or Speck

Get it over and done with

After all what if Quantum computers suddenly become good and factor my keys tomorrow

[pseudo blade]

Wireguard.

-Oh wait you said others at the end

Ehh... still Wireguard.

Or OpenVPN w/ UDP if you really can't manage IPs yourself though it's slower and heavier

[long oxide]

I can run Hamachi and Radmin alongside, some people won't be switching.

I simply need the access to my PC, files and consoles remotely without having to set up dedicated public IP which is an immense pain in the bottom with my ISP

[pseudo blade]

No public IP?

[long oxide]

I'll learn, I love that stuff regardless

[pseudo blade]

Get the cheapest possible VPS and use that to expose your desired services with port forwarding and a VPN tunnel back to your server, or use IPv6+DNS

[long oxide]

Nope, hence why I'm using Radmin and Hamachi in the first place. It's just annoying to always set up my laptop when I'm on the go as those programs don't have Android versions

[pseudo blade]

Now I'm thinking of it you may also like Tailscale's free option

Up to 100 devices free and tolerant of your situation

But a VPS handling a port forward will just allow people to directly connect if security from the internet is not the concern and ease of use for them is one

[shrewd robin]

Man for some reason, I had a terrible experience with this

I mean hamachi

[long oxide]

Okay, I'll look into all the options you mentioned, thanks a lot. Networking isn't something I do often, so I'm quite a newbie in that regard, making your suggestions that much more useful 👍

[pseudo blade]

Try Tailscale first probably

[long oxide]

Yeah, those programs are spotty. Some people can't get one or the other to work, which is why I have 2 like a moron

[shrewd robin]

Btw I’m using Tailscale now and it works really great

Easy to install l

Easy to deal with

[long oxide]

What's the ping on it?

[shrewd robin]

Android and iOS support it very well

[pseudo blade]

It's direct between peers with a negotiating server

So basically just the ping between you and them

[shrewd robin]

Yeah

[long oxide]

Damn, that sounds awesome

[shrewd robin]

And the latency isn’t low either

[pseudo blade]

-Isn't high, you mean

[shrewd robin]

Oh my bad

[pseudo blade]

Well it's no lower than a direct connection

But not much higher

[shrewd robin]

U can watch this https://youtu.be/Kzyolu9yn0E?si=j-GXhmkZv-LfOn_K

[long oxide]

That's absolutely perfect, and with no more than 37 peeps it seems I can have the free version

[long oxide]

Lovely, thanks

[shrewd robin]

The condition is that you can only do that freely with the free subscription

[pseudo blade]

37's a lot for everyone to be connecting in via a VPN lol

[shrewd robin]

Ikr

Why do you have that many devices to begin with lol. I don’t mean to be rude but what are you doing with those

[pseudo blade]

Especially as they'll be sharing an account to keep in that 3 user limit

[obtuse nimbus]

whats the best cheapest wifi mesh router, wifi 6, for about 4500 sqft?

[opal pagoda]

you dont have wired ethernet in that building?

[obtuse nimbus]

We're currently building and we just want a good cheap wifi 6 mesh system for our devices that don't have Ethernet. (Phones, watches, TV's etc.)

also forgot to mention, we are wiring ethernet in the house

[mystic latch]

If you're still in the build process, there's not much reason to cheap out on having normal APs. Which would use the ethernet you're currently wiring.

As the saying goes, you can pick only 2; good, cheap, fast

[keen urchin]

also doesn't lock you into mesh

[fickle lily]

gcnat bypass ?

is cloudflare tunnel alright?

[thick minnow]

I have a PC and I'm trying to copy files from a laptop. I shared a folder in my PC and it was working yesterday. The laptop connected to the network and the PC was showing up in the network. I could access the shared folder to copy files. Today it's no longer working. The laptop cannot see the shared folder. What is wrong?

[thick minnow]

I just figured it out. I was connecting the PC with "public network". Now that I switched to "private" the file sharing is working

[meager ginkgo]

You should use wireless access points instead of a mesh system in this situation.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1LNONZXsLi-R9ejamD9Bd2UfzpqjqEWVt0ZepTGmMC50/edit

Some wiring you should consider also ^

[meager ginkgo]

Yes, if you have a domain you can use

[shy wagon]

Any chance theres a Unifi expert in here?

We're having a weird issue with a bunch of APs that keep dropping offline

[obtuse nimbus]

Yea, I want to, but all the wifi 6 access points are to expensive. Unless you could find one?

[meager ginkgo]

What internet speed are you getting?

[obtuse nimbus]

Gig

[meager ginkgo]

U6-Pro by Ubiquiti is a good overall option

If you go super cheap you’re not gonna get anywhere close to gig, bad range, and have issues overall

[obtuse nimbus]

How much of those should we get?

[meager ginkgo]

How big is the property?

[obtuse nimbus]

I wanna say it's around 4500 aqft

[meager ginkgo]

how many levels?

[obtuse nimbus]

Sqft*

[meager ginkgo]

Hard to say without seeing a floor plan

[obtuse nimbus]

2 stories, but it's just one bonus room upstairs. So we don't really need it upstairs

[meager ginkgo]

I’d probably atleast do 2 minimum for that big square feet

ideally you probably want 3-5 for that square feet (and if you want outdoor spaces covered)

[obtuse nimbus]

alright. I'll look into those access points

That's for the help.

[meager ginkgo]

No problem. Just keep in mind, you’re gonna have to spend a decent bit if you want all the networking hooked up

Most of the stuff should last atleast 5-7 years though so think of it as an investment

[obtuse nimbus]

My parents are really old school. We have a router that's about 11 years old and it still does gig speeds so they don't wanna change. But they just want a wifi that will cover the whole house.

[meager ginkgo]

Can always slowly add APs and other devices also, just make sure the wiring is there

[obtuse nimbus]

So it's gonna be hard to tell them that it's an investment

[meager ginkgo]

Fair enough. I had a similar situation with my parents

[obtuse nimbus]

Lol. But I'll still try to convince them. Thanks for the help!

[obtuse nimbus]

What about the u6+? It's got the same range as the u6 pro and it's about $30 bucks cheaper

[meager ginkgo]

Speed wise I think the U6 Pro will get you much closer to that gig throughout

[obtuse nimbus]

Ah alright. Thanks

[meager ginkgo]

Maybe if you go outdoor APs, you can go U6+ as those areas will have low traffic

[obtuse nimbus]

I don't think we're gonna have outdoor aps. But thanks still!

[meager ginkgo]

👍

[opal pagoda]

what for?

[hallow junco]

lol https://zimacube.zimaboard.com

[opal pagoda]

if its priced deacenty it looks good

[lavish relic]

that looks pretty nice ngl

[hollow axle]

Big it depends on price there, their SBCs are expensive

[hallow junco]

I don't think it will be as open and accessible as people would want. They used proprietary cables on the blade. More fancy packaging and marketing, than anything imo

but yeah it "looks good"

[opal pagoda]

you mean external sata power cable?

[hallow junco]

I think so the sata/power. Non standard connectors = not good

[opal pagoda]

Name a standard connector that they could have used

And it isnt really proprietary as you can buy connector and crimp a cable yourself

Like i crimped a sata power connector for my server, cable was expensive on ebay, bought molex microfit 3.0 2x3 connector and crimp it to a sata cable i cut off a old psu

[hallow junco]

SATA + molex or whatever for power

not fusing the two into some proprietary crud

[opal pagoda]

space constraint doe

[hallow junco]

but when you need a new cable and cant just pick a standard one out of your supplies or from a store... then welcome to proprietary hell

[peak cloak]

Sata + sata power isn't proprietary?

And molex sucks

[opal pagoda]

this is preatty standard on embeded devices as its quicker to plug/unplug devices

[peak cloak]

Yeah it's pretty common

[zinc python]

problems with wireguard on kali

nvm sorted it out

[shrewd zenith]

i want to turn a secondary router into a switch and have wifi on a seperate SSID.
the operation modes make it sound like it will be on the same SSID
is this functionality possible? i have TP link archer c6

[calm vapor]

hello guys, so i have at home a network with 400 mb download speed i only get 30 mb at my pc. i use devolo dlan 200 avplus 3x but i want to upgrade but is it worth it?
NIEUW

[pseudo blade]

Yeah you'll never hit theoretical speeds on homeplug/powerline ethernet. You'd likely be better off with (in order of effectiveness):

• Running ethernet to the computer from the router.
• MoCA (if available)
• Mesh router kit
• If in WiFi range usable by other devices: a high-end WiFi NIC or repeater acting as a bridge only (not repeating a WiFi signal)
• WiFi repeater, multi-band.
• A higher end Powerline kit (may not improve results)

[peak cloak]

Yes you can have more than 1 AP with same ssid

[shrewd zenith]

Yeah that's not what I asked

I need them to be on separate SSIDs while still being a switch. Without DHCP or any other functionality as it's messing with the primary router

[ionic tendon]

Yeah should be fine - just set it to AP mode and configure DHCP off, connect lan port on primary to lan port on secondary then configure SSID as desired

[random tangle]

does anyone know why my upload speed is much more faster than my download speed, and why my download speed keeps fluctuating.

On my phone i get 100+ mbps download speed but on my pc it goes from 20 to 10 to the decimals such as 0.3 mbps

But my upload speed has stayed the same

[opal pagoda]

wired or wifi?

[ionic tendon]

As above, WiFi or wired is the main question here. If wired, change the cable / check the cable for any possible interference i.e. running near high draw power lines etc

[random tangle]

its wifi

[random tangle]

What about wifi

[ionic tendon]

If it's WiFi then need to look at signal strength / link speeds in your connection

How far from the router / access point? where are the antenna positioned?

[opal pagoda]

also it matters what wifi card is in the pc

or simply antenna is not attached

[rocky raptor]

I'm looking to make an upgrade to my internet speeds, my current router is still wifi4 and has a maximum speed of 300mbps. I'm thinking a wifi6 router but I have a maximum budget of $42. Can someone help me? I'm very confused. (Ping me when reply)

[rocky raptor]

I forgot to mention, on average I get a download speed of 8 megabits per second

[opal pagoda]

Do you have range issues or something else?

[rocky raptor]

No not much, I'm mostly looking for a cheap upgrade

I'm looking at a Tenda AX1500

Currently my router is a tplink N300 I believe

[opal pagoda]

At that price priority would be gigabit ports, wifi5 or 6 and last is openwrt compatibility

[rocky raptor]

What is openwrt?

[opal pagoda]

Open source firmware

[rocky raptor]

I see

I'm looking at this https://a.co/d/4EkojbW for $30 it seems well

[thick minnow]

any good nics for pfsense, 2.5 gig with 2 ports? am stuck on realtek rn..

[rocky raptor]

Not truly sure but I'm in need of better internet so bad rn

[mint flint]

would there be any reason as to why i get ping spikes over my wifi, but not my ethernet?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1161410493299314708/image.png?ex=653832cf&is=6525bdcf&hm=e5a292c69b171bb8c8a5e306d6e2549c5b1acfc03285ab4ce09d6946f1d1ff3a&
Image

[opal pagoda]

interference like microwaves, other wifi networks or bluetooth

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo I hate when Cisco can offer retakes at no cost but they only choose to do so once a year and are terrible at announcing it so by the time you see it there is a week left. 1 retake should be standard when the tests are $400

[clear igloo]

Yup, agreed

[random tangle]

Its about 2 rooms away

[random tangle]

I have an antenna in it

[opal pagoda]

How do they announce it?

[waxen scroll]

just happened to find a linkedin post

[opal pagoda]

do they always post it on linkedin?

[unkempt garden]

Heya, I am looking at getting a new router. I am using a Asus RT-N66U N900 from 2012, and while reliable and great, my gigabit etnernet is limited at about 140-150 mbps because of it. Are there any routers right now out there that are affordable but can also support the speeds I'm looking for, that also has a good security interface like Asus?

[leaden escarp]

If I'm on the upper floor and wifi has trouble reaching, would I need an extender, repeater or an access point

[long thistle]

can I set two wifi networks on one mikrotik mesh system (~25 APs)?

[pseudo blade]

Yes

[long thistle]

on the same band?

I mean 5 GHz

[pseudo blade]

You have to use a virtual AP

[long thistle]

can I do this in capsman?

[pseudo blade]

Yes.

Create a slave configuration

[long thistle]

ok, thanks

[thick minnow]

should i use a power line adapter

[pseudo blade]

Should I use a hammer?

Without context your question is difficult to answer.

[mint flint]

Hm

[round arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-oh-yes-yes-o-yeah-yes-no-yes-go-on-yea-yes-gif-14382673246413447193

[prime summit]

Hey, atat sent me a new modem as the last one was 7 years old and giving me issues. It's a BGW 320, and it has a sfp port on it. The fiber comes in but then is converted to ONT, but I was wondering if I could just run straight fiber with the sfp port rather than using ont

It didn't come with any kind of transceiver, as I believe you need it for fiber connection

It comes in like this

Box outside that also makes a fiber connection once it reaches the house, converts into that black cable you see in the pic there

[peak cloak]

no

you need to use ONT iirc

[prime summit]

Im assuming I only use ont because of this current install? from what I heard with newer installs they use the sfp port

that box is really annoying as it falls off the wall all of the time, would rather have it out of the equation.. im expecting it will cost as a tech would probaly have to come out and do it

[peak cloak]

maybe I'm not understanding correctly, the current AT&T router has an sfp port?

[prime summit]

Yes

[peak cloak]

Guess you can try, I know you can't just plug into any ole network device without complex workarounds

but if it's an AT&T router can try

can check the manual as well

[rocky badge]

https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r33442912-AT-T-Fiber-Bye-bye-802-1x-you-will-not-be-missed

[prime summit]

So this is saying that it wouldn't be required?

[rocky badge]

idk just showing what i found

[prime summit]

I may start with giving a call and see if they can do it that way. I know for sure they dont want you screwing with it

And the modem was suppose to come with the adapter to plug fiber in but they didn't include it. I believe they packaged it knowing who it was going to since the other equipment not included is things I already have from the first install

[shell viper]

It's amazing how shitty isp provided hardware is when you make your own openwrt router

[fickle lily]

simple web server

[opal pagoda]

reverse proxy or cloudflared

that would do it

if you are the only one using it then tailscale is simplest

[plush vale]

Upgraded the fibre line recently and after a few support calls, it's now running at full tilt - think this should do me for the next few years at least 🤣🤣

[fickle lily]

yes did try it now and it seems to work

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin doing arista labs right now

they ripped off most of the cisco CLI lol

apart from a few "make sure you change the homework" items, you could pretty much buy these and your NOC should be able to figure it out

@rocky badge

*****Jump Host for Arista Test Drive*****
*****************************************


==========Main Menu==========

Please select from the following options:
1. Reset All Devices to Base ATD (reset)
2. Layer 2 Leaf-Spine Lab (l2ls) - Site 1 Only
3. Layer 3 Leaf-Spine Lab (l3ls) - Site 1 Only
4. VXLAN Static Flood List Lab (vxlan) - Site 1 Only
5. CloudVision Portal Lab (cvp) - Site 1 Only
6. CVP lab for Studios L3LS/EVPN (studiosl3ls)


97. Additional Labs (labs)
98. SSH to Devices (ssh)
99. Exit LabVM (quit/exit) - CTRL + c

What would you like to do?: 1
Starting deployment for Data-Center-Labs - reset lab...

[hollow marlin]

That's what I heard. Curious how close it is compared to Adtran's AOS, the champion of "you can copy but change the answers slightly".

If you dropped into AOS and no one told you, it would take a few mins before you realized something is not right if at all

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo come with me... and you'll see... a little spark... of pure Arista-ation

[clear igloo]

yuck, and deal with CVP's failures?

I perfer good telemetry collection 😛

[waxen scroll]

do you realise how many n9k issues ive had over the past 3 years?

[clear igloo]

You've had quite a few, lol

[waxen scroll]

enough for lawyers to talk to lawyers

[clear igloo]

Did you consider you're using it wrong?
Perhaps you stood them at a 47 degree angle to a neutron star?

[waxen scroll]

one of my RFOs was sunspots

all of you new people here think i'm joking but vendors do use that excuse

[clear igloo]

Yup

[waxen scroll]

my favorite RFO came from russia

"It's old soviet infrastructure"

[clear igloo]

or background cosmic radiation causing bit flips, lol

[waxen scroll]

but MUH ECC ram

[heady crypt]

Quick question on some networking equipment. I am trying to help out a church with a large facility. Right now they use 3 different wifi routers for internet through the building. My question is what kind of system would you guys recommend that has large range and is strong enough to even work in a concrete/metal building?

[clear igloo]

dedicated APs to a switch and single router without wifi

[heady crypt]

Ok thanks @clear igloo

[long scarab]

got these from aliexpress for $0.19, gonna test these ugly things later tonight

ignore hand lol

[heady crypt]

So @clear igloo according to what you said something like a Ubiquiti Networks Unifi Access Point and switches would work?

[clear igloo]

yup

[heady crypt]

Ok cool, I will get them to order it since it falls in our budget, appreciate it

[heady crypt]

I am having them order this, Hope it's enough to cover the building which is large.

[peak cloak]

just curious why you are doing 2 switches?

[heady crypt]

@peak cloak Cause in the sanctuary there is only one line run and it already has a router with 2 computers attached

[peak cloak]

yeah that makes sense

[heady crypt]

And the lines were run long ago before everything was sealed so I have no way to run another. It's a large old church

lol I say old it was built in the 80's

[peak cloak]

I did the same in the house

there's only 2 lines going from basement to 2nd floor

[heady crypt]

They are just complaining that wifi doesn't work everywhere and there are 2 many passwords

I by no means really know that much about networking, but I know more then most the other people there. I am just trying to help them

I just hope this will do what they need cause they don't have a bunch of money and I would hate to buy the wrong stuff

[peak cloak]

it will, although do you already have a unifi controller?

[heady crypt]

Um that would be a no probably I thought the 16 port switch did that

I was just gonna use a PC for it

[peak cloak]

you can self host it

just want to make sure you're aware

idk unifi specifies but iirc machines like the dream machine have it

[heady crypt]

I watched the setup video he kept saying about a PC being hooked to it

[peak cloak]

but that may their cloud gateway

[peak cloak]

link?

@rocky badge you know this stuff more

[heady crypt]

I don't mind hooking up a computer to it and having it run it, I just need to make sure I have them order all the right parts

[peak cloak]

would basically need act as a server

the main thing isn't the switch but the APs that need the controller

[heady crypt]

Hmm all the guy said we would need in the video to setup is a non - wifi router and then the switches. The maintance room doesn't have room for a server setup plus it get's hot in there

[peak cloak]

what video, that could be switch setup

you def want controller for APs

[peak cloak]

by server I mean computer, it can a small NUC or something

[heady crypt]

Hmm need to find a way to do this without a computer then. Again the room is very small

[peak cloak]

You can also use something like this https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-cloud-keys-gateways/products/unifi-cloudkey-plus

this technically is a computer

[heady crypt]

Hmm wonder how you would hook that into the switch then

[peak cloak]

normally, just ethernet

[heady crypt]

So the modem doesn't go into it, it just hooks to the switch?

[peak cloak]

also I belive you can use an off-prem cloud controller, but it requires a complex setup for adopting the network devices (APs,Switch)

[peak cloak]

yeah, it's just one port. It's basically just a network device/server

[heady crypt]

Thanks for all the info @peak cloak after the email I just got I told them maybe they should find someone else to do it. I appreciate you trying to help though

[storm oracle]

Looking for fastest ethernet cable that is outdoor rated for under 40 usd

[peak cloak]

what speeds, if it's gig just get cat 6a outdoor

[dense sphinx]

When i do a speed test or something in task manager it shows network being used 10-15% but when i go to play valorant for example it sits at 0% what is going on? how can i fix this

[peak cloak]

games don't use much bandwidth

[dense sphinx]

ping sits at like 200 ms so idk why its happening

[peak cloak]

ping != bandwidth

[dense sphinx]

happens like once a month around this time and lasts for the rest of the month

[dense sphinx]

?

[long scarab]

Update: They look cool

[opal pagoda]

0.19 per piece?

only thing that i find annoying with cheap rj45 is thin blades not penetrating insulation on the pairs

[long scarab]

per bag

[opal pagoda]

seesh

[brisk ledge]

I heavily dislike These kinds of rj45 pieces alltogether lol

[queen bay]

i got a question

my wifi is 200 Mbps and i got a 600Mbps power line and im getting 3Mbps in my PC

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0141JGNZG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this is the one i have

where am i wrong?

[mystic latch]

Powerline is a shot in the dark for speed. Totally dependent on wiring in your place and if the 2 nodes are on different breakers.

[clear igloo]

Plus that powerline kit could only ever hit (at best) 100Mbps

[hot flax]

can a motherboard cause low internet speed or problems in general

to my internet

[hollow marlin]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll As someone who owned a Wrangler/Gladiator in hyper-green/high-velocity, I am liking the color scheme on the new lineup that Juniper just announced

[waxen scroll]

pretty... but you should buy palo in 2023

It's better than extreme purple

[pseudo blade]

Sure, especially if you're using the onboard controller.
I'd be looking at drivers or external causes before I ran off to replace it/grab another NIC though, as while certainly possible it's also not that likely to be a hardware issue. Worst case if it was an issue with the onboard controller you can likely add a PCIe NIC for pretty cheap.

[plush vale]

powerline adapters are like playing the lottery. one in a million works as advertised, everyone else wastes their money.

[fallow wing]

anyone knows of routers (not switches !) with 1 or 2 SFP ports and 4 to 8 2.5G ports on which I can flash a router OS of our choice ?
because closest I could find is "just" 6 2.5G ports and that's it
(I probably don't know where to look tbh)

[hot flax]

how do i go about checking if its a driver issue or something like that

[clear igloo]

pretty colors 😄

[brisk ledge]

I bet mikrotik has something like that

But with their Router OS...

[fallow wing]

I had a look at their stuff earlier, couldn't find something that had more than one 2.5

[brisk ledge]

Btw, why exactly a Router with that? Normally you dont use much Router ports at all and use dedicated Switches.

[fallow wing]

Wanted to know if that existed and if I could "save" on getting only one package instead of two devices

[brisk ledge]

Def wont save.

[fallow wing]

Well, I don't even think it exists but I've seen interesting AliExpress router PCs, maybe I'll find "the right one"

[brisk ledge]

You could build one yourself.

For a lot of money lol

[fallow wing]

Imagine the power consumption lol

[brisk ledge]

Plus Softwareswitching sucks

[brisk ledge]

Will be very high anyways for a Router with your config.

[fallow wing]

Ehhhhh depends
I can get 4 port 2.5G NIC cards for 100€
If I can get a Mobo with 4 slots, I get two of those, two SFP+ cards, that'll work out

[brisk ledge]

Yea sure

[fallow wing]

But if I can get a dedicated machine that's purpose built for that, I'd prefer it

[brisk ledge]

Im very sure you wont find something like that.

At least not in - able to pay.

[round arrow]

What is the use case of a cloud key?

[clear igloo]

Device configuration

[hollow marlin]

I briefly watched the Cloud Key Enterprise on Short Circuit and quit watching once I read the comment that it was $5K...... $5K!!!!!!

[clear igloo]

Yup, that's just stupid

[round arrow]

I was thinking the little one he had in his hand lol. Not the 5 k one hahah seems overkill for home lab use

[clear igloo]

Same thing, one just has "beefier" hardware to handle more devices at once

[hollow marlin]

It's overkill for enterprises. If you are at the scale that it targets, you will have server infrastructure in place that can instead be used to run the cloud key in a VM. Basically it's a dedicated bare-metal server running cloud key without any redundancy.

[round arrow]

Aww, new subject to learn about. Set up a VM

As a cloud key

[jaunty talon]

@hollow marlin time will tell if those SRX's are green ;) ACX7100-(48L/32C) for instance is not black/superdark grey :D It's just grey like everything else from Juniper!

But I do need to get a pair of 4700:s once they start selling (November), it's a nice upgrade for my 4600:s :)

[hollow marlin]

Yeah you need to go to the image library to see the true colors (not sure why they are different from datasheets).

Unlike the ACX7ks, they are grey in the library. The new SRXes appear to be accurate though

[jaunty talon]

Nice :)

[hollow marlin]

As a SP, most our gear is MX with the only SRXes being the branch series for CPEs. SRX1500+ is outside our requirements.

That said, the SRX1600 has the potential of filling a gap as a decent edge router with it's RIB/FIB capacity. If they can be aggressive with the price

[jaunty talon]

Yep, they look good. Also love the linerate MACsec :)

we only do NAT+routing in ours, no L4-7 stuff

[hollow marlin]

Same, no NGFW features for us either.

[clear igloo]

You need decryption on all TLS1.3!!!!
reeeee
😛

[jaunty talon]

haha

[clear igloo]

Take your 400Gb interfaces and get you down to 50 meg throughput 😄

[storm oracle]

Yea it's ab 2 but I only need 1 gig

[iron cradle]

Alright I just upgraded my internet but the port forwarding I use for an MC server broke because both my router and modem had port forwarding and they just would not work together or I just could not figure out how. So what I did it fix it is I switched my Router to access point mode and use the modem for routing IPs and that fixed the issue for the MC server, but now my network has segmented into 2 different networks (I think because I have two ethernet switches) and has broken one of the software I use since both devices have to be on the same network. I am at a lost on how to fix this.

[peak cloak]

if router is in AP mode and the modem is also acting as the router, and there are no other routers (switch is not a router) then it should all be one network

I would need more specifics such as IPs of the devices that you say don't work anymore

[iron cradle]

nvm I was an idiot. I reboot the other device and its working, sorry for taking up your time

[fervent brook]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/694971678618419340/1164702990452666500/20231019_161338.jpg

[empty aspen]

I have a few questions. I just moved my setup to the basement, and moved the wifi hotspot down there, and its literally 2 feet from my wifi card's antenna. I just did a wifi speet test with ethernet connected and over wifi, and somehow my ethernet speed is 100mbps slower than wifi on download, but about 150mbps faster on upload. Can someone explain this? I'm so confused. I thought ethernet was supposed to be faster than wifi. the screenshot with 808mbps download is over wifi, and the other one is using a cat6 ethernet cable my friend gave me.

[ocean pivot]

WiFi is unstable

[pseudo blade]

Ah, SwitchOS. Not that compelling vs. its RouterOS cousins but definitely usable for small homelab/playing around/PoE for a few (24v!!!) access points, and for $5.50 you can't complain too much, can you? Even has an SFP port on the rear.

It'll do VLANs and stuff

[fervent brook]

The box says to upgrade to RouterOS, but that might be a typo

[pseudo blade]

Nope, for that you need the hEX PoE or CRS switches, they cut the flash to 128k on that one

[still flax]

Is this the place to ask about NAS?

Looking to build or buy a NAS that is solid state only. Premade solutions are 500 quid and up, without any storage. Never heard of Asustore - is their software any good? Would also be okay with spinning my own solution, but can't find any small form factor boards (or refurbished office PCs) that have 3 or more NVME slots...

Apart from the SSD only, low energy usage would be a requirement, since I'm in Europe and energy is...ouch.

[opal pagoda]

do you have 10 gigabit networking at home?
if no then nvme requirement is overkill
are you planning to run some other services on the same box as nas?

[still flax]

Wanna do streaming as well, but SSD is mostly for long term stability. The difference in price over mechanical drives is so minimal right now, and I just had one of my old drives dying. The old NAS is about 11 years old now, out of capacity, out of speed, and drives beginning to fail, so I wanted to go SSD.

Streaming meaning 2-3 media streamsof HD video at max.

[opal pagoda]

plex?

[still flax]

probably.

but not necessarily

[opal pagoda]

or jellyfin

[still flax]

dunno yet, depends on the hardware

I mean, I could just get a WD Cloud thingy and throw two Samsung 870 EVO in there instead of HDDs

would be about 700 €for a 4 TB raid 1 solution

[opal pagoda]

since you said its hard to find sff boards with lots of m.2 slots
is there a reason you want a super compact build?

[still flax]

Was thinking about mounting it behind the TV with a VESA capable case, but that's just an idea.

I haven't found any "cheap-ish" motherboards with more than 2 NVME slots

I would use a refurbished Optiplex if it was okay on energy efficiency, but they all have zero to 1 NVME slot..

And if I'm going sata, I could just go WD Cloud (see above)

[opal pagoda]

you know you can adapt pcie slot to m.2 with really cheap adapter

[still flax]

oh wow, they are cheap...

and available in half-height brackets.

[opal pagoda]

if motherboard supports bifurcation you can put 4 m.2 drives in one 16x slot with passive adapter

[still flax]

Now the question is, does an HP Prodesk 400 motherboard do that 😄

[opal pagoda]

what generation?

[still flax]

looking at greenpanda.de

the Prodesk are too small

They've got Elitedesk 800 G3 with Core i5 6500 for 150€

Elitedesk 800 G2 with i5 6600 for 135€

[opal pagoda]

too much

[still flax]

and Fujitsu Esprimo D757 with i5 6500

145€as well

they're all refurbished and include Win10 home licenses

I think it's pretty good for what you get, especially since it's all done in Germany, not China.

and no delivery fee, basically

[opal pagoda]

15e delivery, shipped from germany

[still flax]

...fill in the configuration sliders.

even with the smalles SSD it gives me 112 €

[opal pagoda]

bro just buy barebones and get a new ssd somewhere else, same with ram

[still flax]

I don'T think you can leave out RAM

[opal pagoda]

configurator is where the money is made for people who dont know how to install a stick of ram

[still flax]

it lets you select "no SSD", but not "no RAM"

[opal pagoda]

i would leave it on "select"

if price updates and it lets you order its valid order

just check first if it fits your needs for m.2 slots

[still flax]

looking that up rn

looks like it'S got 2x PCIEx4

and 3x SATA

[opal pagoda]

16x pcie
2x 1x pcie
no m.2 slots to be found

[still flax]

let me calculate that real quick

M700 - let's say around 65 - 100€
2x adaptar card - 22€
8 GB RAM DDR4 - 25€
2x 4TB NVME - 260 €

SATA SSD for windows, about 30 €

[opal pagoda]

you plan on running windows on it?

[still flax]

or whatever OS

need a drive for it

so that's like 450 € or so

WB MyCloud Ex2 with 12 TB (so 6 TB in RAID 1) is 380€atm

and prolly cheaper to run energywise

Hm, gotta think about that

[opal pagoda]

if you specified sata ssd we can go cheaper

[still flax]

yeah, it'd be like 250 for 2x 4TB, the 65-100 for the system, 25€for the RAM, 25 for OS drive = 400

or a little bit less

maybe get a good deal on the SSDs...

Crucial has 4 TB for 205 rn

[opal pagoda]

idk if this is pricing error or legit price
but it would be kinda perfect for you
1x m.2, 2x sata ports

[clear sphinx]

Yo can anyone help me with some port forwarding issues on my asus router?
I have my dms open if anyone can help\

[blazing karma]

This is a test from a remote machine with 10GB-LR-SR transceiver connected

Is this speed normal or should I be expecting more

[pseudo blade]

By "remote" do you mean tunneled traffic or just "a different computer on the same network"?

[blazing karma]

Sorry typo but within private network

Not WAN but LAN

[pseudo blade]

Ok.

Does either machine have a particularly weak CPU?

[blazing karma]

E5 2680 v4 and i7 3820

[pseudo blade]

Try multithreading the iperf test.

Up it to say 4 connections

[blazing karma]

Doing from the i7 3820 to E5 2680 v4 averages about 3.59

But E5 2680 v4 to i7 3820 is about 5.75

[pseudo blade]

Iperf3 doesn't implement multithreading? Bloody hell

You'll need to use iperf2 and 4 connections

[blazing karma]

Okay so this sounds like a multithreading issue from iperf3 side?

[pseudo blade]

Yeah that's my suspicion

[blazing karma]

Gotta love ubuntu

Do you mean iperf3 or iperf

[pseudo blade]

Use the iperf package

It's iperf2

[blazing karma]

Alright will give it a try

I'm currently using my OPNSense box as a test bed

[shrewd zenith]

I have an old router that I'm trying to turn into an AP. Is this still possible if the old router doesn't have a WAN port?

[opal pagoda]

yes, you need to disable dhcp on it and connect it via lan ports

[clear igloo]

And you don't want to connect it via the WAN port without disabling NAT

[shrewd zenith]

Interesting story to that, whenever I disable the DHCP on it it becomes inaccessible. Even used nmap and it couldn't find any local ip addresses.

[opal pagoda]

you might need to manually assign it a ip adress

[shrewd zenith]

I manually assigned an ip address just now and it still won't go to the page

[peak cloak]

The IP address would need to be within your networks range

And not conflict with anything else

[shrewd zenith]

Yeah the range was 1-254
I did 100

All the existing devices were between 1-10

Checked using wifiman, I'm now sat here hoping 100 isn't a reserved one? 😂

[steel grove]

I'm connected to my router (192.168.50.1), which is connected to my modem+router device (192.168.1.170). I used the traceroute command, and it gave me results I don't understand.

1. Why does 192.168.1.170 respond when I put 192.168.1.1 as the destination?
2. Why is the response time for 192.168.1.170 so long when I put 192.168.1.1 as the destination?
3. Why is my router (192.168.50.1) not listed as a hop when I put 192.168.1.170 as the destination?

[ashen hawk]

NAT over NAT

[steel grove]

Could you elaborate

[ashen hawk]

Network loop from multiple routes. This configuration is not exactly recommended. Try setting the modem to bridge and only use one router.

[mighty light]

how do i get through this? its the bell home hub 3000

is there any way to bypass this without actually typing in the password

[ornate jungle]

According to Bell's website, the default administrator password is "admin" unless you changed it. If that doesn't work, contact your ISP for help. (Breaking passwords violates Terms of Service, so we can't help there.)

[clear sphinx]

So i am running a vm (windows server 2022) and in that Vm i am running game servers (Minecraft, Valheim, ark, ETC) but no one outside of my network can connect, i dont know if it is the vm or just my router port fowarding not working, I have attached a image of my port forwardig , i attached ipconfig, is there a way to fix it, or is there a way to tell if it is an router or synology vm issue, please, my whole group of friends is depending on this.

[steel grove]

Why would NAT over NAT cause that weird behavior when I use traceroute?

[prime summit]

update, I was able to get a tech out and they did it for free. Took old fiber box and replaced with a wall jack (just holds fiber connection from outside). On the phone they kept wanting me to use ont but I complained about their crap job of leaving so much cable slack in the old fiber box that it kept falling off the wall. They would have charged $100 if it wasn’t their fault

[runic copper]

hey guys i have a https://service-provider.tp-link.com/vdsl/vx420-g2h/v1.1/ router from my previous ISP i am using it as my router for my current ISP but i noticed that my upload speed is capped at 5mbps while my current isp said that i should be getting 20mbps, I have done some googling and found out that this router have its upload speed capped at 5mbps, i would like to install openwrt in it to bypass the cap is that possible?

[ashen hawk]

Tracert can give multiple routes and skip hops in that scenario. NAT over NAT can hide outbound IP sometimes

[south mesa]

I was wondering if you all had any recommendations for a Wi-Fi extender as I do not have ethernet where I need it and the Wi-Fi signal has dropped the 2.4 GHz. Thanks!

[visual tangle]

Do you have to do wifi extender or can you run a wire to an AP?
If you can use an AP and broadcast the same network this is the best option.
If no, what hardware are you currently using?

[south mesa]

Unfortunately I am on another floor and we never wired up the ethernet to that floor. We have Xfinity XFI so we have an xFi gateway. Doing some basic research. It looks like the only thing I could use is xFI pods. Is that correct?

[opal pagoda]

do you have coax in your walls?, if you do you could use moca adapters to hard wire in a AP

[south mesa]

We do, I don't know if it is wired up. If it is would that be better than the xFI pods?

[dusk wave]

yes because the xfi pods are also wireless wifi extenders although they broadcast the same SSID, but the best solution to your problem would be MoCA adpaters to an AP.

[south mesa]

Ok. Thanks any you would recommend?

[dusk wave]

ScreenBeam Starter Kit off of amazon

[south mesa]

Thx

[dusk wave]

They should already come with coxial splitters if not I would highly recommend getting one if Xfinity has the internet coming thorugh coax

[south mesa]

K. Thx.

[dusk wave]

No problem anytime, I know about the xfi pods bc I also have them and they suck

[south mesa]

Ah. They are that bad. Will try to convince my family.

[dusk wave]

Sounds good dude good luck!

[south mesa]

Thanks!

[burnt dagger]

how can one pc in my network have internet access but no one els in my network can connect.
there are other people wired in and its not working for them.
wifi is down too

[dusk wave]

dhcp maybe

[burnt dagger]

what is dhcp

[dusk wave]

Its what assigns devices Ip adresses

[burnt dagger]

my modem is saythere is no internet but im able to use it

maybe my internet provider has done something wokey

[dusk wave]

possibly its normal for that to happen if that is the case

[burnt dagger]

lol idk how this is posible for only my computer to have internet lol

[opal pagoda]

when in doubt restart everything

[burnt dagger]

yeah i have

even restarted my pc just incase for some reason XD

[cosmic steeple]

Hello, i am looking for some help

i have a axe1100

ethernet on my main pc is not working not connected

PORT 1 pc in other room working fine

port 2- on the main pc, not working, showing up "no internet"

port 3 ps5 working fine

all cables working and switched in all deceives port connect to pc main no internet

noob ip messing at some point in the main pc can be the culprit. Wi-Fi networking "fine"(patch lose and burst) firmware updated

[lilac coyote]

hey i need help with a VPN, Nord spesifically, It cant connect, i tried TCP and obfuscated and its not working

[cosmic steeple]

disconnected ap installed when ip messing to isolate the variables ( problems started)

[visual tangle]

Did you setup anything custom on the main PC in terms of IP / Ethernet connections?
What about on the router?

[rose glade]

Hey does anyone know if I can just plug an Ethernet cable into my Google fiber router

It has an Ethernet looking port on the bottom but idk if that would work

[opal pagoda]

is it really a router or is it just an ont?

[rose glade]

No idea
What’s the difference

[opal pagoda]

when in doubt take a photo of it

[rose glade]

Fair enough

[opal pagoda]

that is google wifi mesh
gray port with symbol <-> is for lan

you can connect pc/tv/anything to it

[rose glade]

Alr cool, thanks!

(Deleted just in case of info bc I don’t know jack-shit abt networking)

[wet grotto]

Is there a floatplane vod out on today’s video interested to see what lit on fire

[frosty stone]

no

[wet grotto]

My guess is the psu in the switch died

Unifi really needs to do redundant psus

[frosty stone]

if the enterprise cloud key is any indication, I'd expect them in future switches

[rocky badge]

@wet grotto They used to do redundant hot swappable PSUs

then they switched to their shitty RPS "redundant PSUs"

The RPS unit provides DC power over a 24 pin ATX connector (propreitary signaling)

but only after it establishes a serial connection to the device, aka if the internal PSU dies and the switch reboots the RPS "redundant PSU" will not cold boot a device

Of course all at the stupidly high price they sell RPS units and cables

The USW Leaf had 2 internal non hot swap PSUs

and the really old stuff had hot swap PSUs

With ability to DC power

[opal pagoda]

i personally like mikrotik way of doing it
power in (some models have internal psu some have just dc jack) and then ability to be powered of poe

[rocky badge]

I'd just rather have 2 hot swap PSUs

i don't care about poe powered unless its a switch sitting at my desk

[opal pagoda]

CRS305-1G-4S+IN
2 dc jacks + poe
triple redundant

[rocky badge]

just gimme this

dual PSUs, or stacking power

[opal pagoda]

every power input
dual psu+ poe in+ 2 pin terminal+ dc jack

[rocky badge]

but why, just have a DC PSU option

[opal pagoda]

would be nice if standard way of delivering 48v to the computer equipment existed

bc then ups technology would be so simple

[rocky badge]

I mean, DC is pretty universal

and UPS tech is already simple

its DC inside with the battery and some have DC leads

they just have inverters and chargers to take AC to DC or vice versa lol

[hexed drum]

Hello, i'm trying to enable https with my self hosted rpi4, does anyone knows how to enable it? I tried a lot of things but nothing works at the end

[wet grotto]

I don’t think even if they added redundant psus I am using their stuff. I just don’t like the idea of needing a controller to configure these I know there are others who do this stupid shit too but goddamnit its not hard give me a console port and a management port and let me configure with cli

[peak cloak]

Do you have a domain name

Easiest way imo is to create a certificate is using let's encrypt dns challenge

[hexed drum]

@peak cloak yes, mscholz.dev, the link : https://strapi.mscholz.dev (bought from namecheap)

[peak cloak]

so yeah, what I do is run acme.sh using let's encrypt server to isssue wildcard domain cert

not sure if it supports namecheap if you are using them for DNS, I use cloudflare for nameservers

[hexed drum]

i'm linking cloudflare, that's great because i wanted to use it for preventing ddos my connection, so after i linked my namecheap dns with cloudflare, what do i have to do?

[thick minnow]

anyone hear about pfsense no longer offering plus licenses for free homelab use?

[clear igloo]

That's been the rumor and "coming soon" for years now

Is there a new article on it?

[thick minnow]

Its on the site but click it takes you to the subscription page

[clear igloo]

Oh, that's the subscription, there is a different place for the upgrade

interesting

because it's supposed to be $129/year when it does happen

[thick minnow]

and apparently someone on reddit emailed them and got told you cannot use plus without paying now

[clear igloo]

I just got a key from them like 3 days ago =/

[clear igloo]

wow, that's dumb

[thick minnow]

They havent revoked me yet so heres to hoping I dont have to rip this thing out of production randomly some day

[clear igloo]

Yah I would surley hope they don't revoke past licenses, that would be horrible

[rocky badge]

@hollow marlin @waxen scroll

Looking for feedback on this design and ways to configure it

Would you use STP to failover links (ex from Monitor World 1 to both Cores) or something like LACP?
Anything obvious standing out wrong/bad/?

[waxen scroll]

I'm on vacation and not in a good position to look over it but generally you want to remove spanning tree as much as possible and that means mlag/vpc between distribution and access

MLAG is only relevant on the distribution switches. Your other stuff only needs to support port channel

[mystic latch]

Given netgate's repeated shitty behavior in the past, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they did this.

[pseudo blade]

Yet to hear a compelling reason to not ignore Netgate's products forever in favour of the wealth of alternatives available to me

[crude escarp]

https://9to5google.com/2023/10/25/google-fiber-20-gig/

[hollow marlin]

You do not need to rely on STP and LACP wouldn't be possible in that scenario without MC-LAG which I doubt they support.

• Add L3 link between core routers with a routing protocol
• Interfaces from core routers facing the core switches should be L3 and VRRP
• Rest can stay as is

It's essentially a L2 spine and leaf design with the caveat of no load-balancing

[rocky badge]

Yeah figured out STP.

The cores can stack, but no MC-LAG

I don't care about load balancing, only full link redundancy

[rocky badge]

Can you explain points 1 & 2?

Layer 3 on switches is still fairly new for me

[hollow marlin]

Now that I look at it a bit closer, yeah you would need to stack the switches with a lag to each leaf to do what I recommended. Otherwise STP will break VRRP and be a headache

[hollow marlin]

1 - A L3 link between the two routers with OSPF/BGP would allow for redundancy upstream
2 - VRRP on the interfaces facing the core would allow for redundancy downstream. AKA redundancy gateways (but VRRP requires L2 connectivity between the two which would result in a loop in this topology)

[rocky badge]

hmmm

I'm gonna VRRP the routers

what if I stack the core and then setup LACP on the core and the access layers

would that work?

the cores would be one logical thing and LACP would work??

[hollow marlin]

Yeah that is what I was referring to

[rocky badge]

Okay cool

bc the reason I chose those as my core switches

is the 12 RJ45 are 10GbE and then 12 SFP+

bc not all the time will we be using fiber to uplink access switches to the core

So the idea is we have enough 10GbE to link everything if we use CAT6A cables and then SFP+ for fiber on racks that need/will need fiber

and then the actual switches have this

[hollow marlin]

That would work just fine then

[rocky badge]

and then the racks that will never use fiber

Cool!

I want full network redundancy for this that's instant to failover

We push at minimum 2Gbps constantly through the network

Can get up to 6Gbps

None of it can drop lol

Dante (networked audio)
NDI (networked video)
sACN (networked lighting)

[hollow marlin]

Redundancy is easy, instant is not lol

[rocky badge]

Yeah...

I mean, Dante always sends out of 2 interfaces to 2 networks simultaneously

So as long as one of those paths can always reach between devices Dante is fine

NDI isn't used for show critical stuff, mainly just video multi views across FOH, backstage, etc.

sACN...is lights lol. The lights will hold last packet but its not fun

[hollow marlin]

A link other than to or on the core routers, failover with <100ms. Other wise you would have to see if VRRP fast intervals are supported as most default to 3 missed PDUs at 1s intervals

[hollow marlin]

Oh yeah, it's multicast right?

[rocky badge]

Yeah

WELL

KINDA ish lol

Dante by default is unicast audio data with multicast clocking and discovery

but you can configure multicast audio flows

[hollow marlin]

Gatcha. You would need to consider too how it would handle receiving it's own MC on the second interface as well.

Is each interface it's own L3 interface, Dante that is.

[rocky badge]

Yes

in this example, HY-144D-SRC #3 gets primary from SW RIVAGE 1-1 and secondary from SW RIVAGE 1-2

primary will have an IP of 10.217.101.x

secondary will use an IP in the APIPA space

if primary link gets cut, it will communicate over secondary link

every other Dante device will have this as well

[hollow marlin]

Can those switches stack?

[rocky badge]

not at the access layer

M4250 (access layer) series switches can't stack

M4350 (core layer) stack with Virtual Chassis stacking

[hollow marlin]

Does both the core/access switches support L3 along with either OSPF/BGP?

[rocky badge]

I know core does

lemme double check access

not listed

core

[hollow marlin]

Only RIP, ewwww

[rocky badge]

Yeah 😦

how cute is that switch though

glad I found it bc I am not stuffing a switch full of SFP+ to RJ45

As to why I want RJ45 10GbE...stuff within 10ft of each other backstage doesn't need fiber

[hollow marlin]

Most, even enterprise, switches can't handle more than half the interface count being SFP-T+ because of power

[rocky badge]

Yeahhh

power hungry and heat

Since they're half width you can connect 2 like this

so my core layer will only be 1U

[hollow marlin]

Oh nice. I wish more vendors adopted that

[rocky badge]

which is nice bc I don't want the core network rack being too big

1U UPS, 1U of switches, 2U of router

and then I will have a panel with all of the connections

similar to this

[hollow marlin]

Do those panels also have keys for fiber?

[rocky badge]

yup

[hollow marlin]

Well there you go lol

[rocky badge]

works with LC or opticalCON

This is "Duo" aka 2 LC lol

the back

Duo can also carry power, designed for SMPTE fiber cameras

[rocky badge]

They are expensive though 😩

CAT6A passthru one

the quad fiber one is like $110, the duo isn't any cheaper either its like $100

the MTP 12 is like $200 🥴

[hollow marlin]

The MTP one would be nice. A single run to each pair of switches would keep it simple

But....also a SPOF

[rocky badge]

YOU'RE SO REAL

but yeah

Any fiber we're ordering is going on a reel anyways, so its not like its that much more of a pain to roll out and roll up

[hollow marlin]

If you are getting reels, you can get a carrier or hell a pipe and some buckets and pull them all at once

[rocky badge]

Oh this is temporary all the time

and they all can just sit on the ground and spin

[hollow marlin]

Ohhh

[rocky badge]

Yeah this is for live shows and events

They would be on reels like this

[hollow marlin]

So everything in the diagram is pretty much going to be mobile?

[rocky badge]

yup...

AND the scarier part...parts can split up and be independent

I have some ideas for tackling that too...

[hollow marlin]

In that case I see why you want the racks to be compact

[rocky badge]

My idea for this is to have a trunk port on each switch and have the ability to throw a router with VLANs on it

but I know which parts are usually separated and what they need

Each hand drawn box is a rack (for reference)

[hollow marlin]

Yeah you should be able to use a template config no problem.

[rocky badge]

Typically 1 & 3 are always together

I will have a router that can travel with them to provide DHCP and NAT services

2 can go out on its own so I will have another router

if you have racks 4 or 5 you typically also have racks 1 & 3

6 & 7 should be able to also work independently

but for a regular show where we do audio, lighting, and video we will have everything connected as shown here

[hollow marlin]

For each pair of switches you can probably look for 2 RU ears also to make moving them easier

[rocky badge]

Ehh, inside the rack they don't move

its just the racks

[hollow marlin]

Oh that's right lol

[rocky badge]

@hollow marlin TIL Dante with a primary secondary setup will auto assign IPs in the range of 172.31.*.* on the secondary network with no DHCP

because primary network will use APIPA like normal

and ranges can't overlap

[hollow marlin]

What happens during a failover? Does the secondary keep using the 172 address?

[rocky badge]

yes

[rocky badge]

If it changed IP addresses during failover that adds time during the failover

which isn't ideal

Dante relies on a clock leader, lose the leader you don't have audio aka all devices Mute

and it can take a few seconds after the clock leader coming back up to have all devices unmute and in an ok state

Dante redundancy is fully transparent and instant since it always transmits and receives on both interfaces

[hollow marlin]

I wasn't sure if there was a preempt timer as how does a remote endpoint continue to receive traffic source from another subnet

[rocky badge]

Dante won't traverse subnets

[hollow marlin]

Well that solves it

[rocky badge]

WITHOUT dante domain manager which will do allow that

[hollow marlin]

I assumed so since APIPA stops routing regardless

[rocky badge]

Dante is sensitive to network though lol

[hollow marlin]

Audio/video and clocks seem to be toooo sensitive lol. What is the target failover time?

[rocky badge]

Device latency setting

150usec with one switch
250usec with 3 switches (hops)
500usec with 5 switches

anything above the device's setting is bad

our network typically does around 330usec with devices set to 500usec

so anything above 500usec will cause a warning

[hollow marlin]

So a .5ms jitter would cause havoc????

[rocky badge]

it will cause a warning yeah

realistically anything above 10ms will cause a device to mute though

but devices will be mad if they get packets outside of their setting

[hollow marlin]

And I thought HF trading was bad enough

[rocky badge]

Yeahhh AVoIP is very picky

[hollow marlin]

I prefer to stick to the SP field where I can actually view the difference in timestamps in a PCAP to troubleshoot an issue (<1ms)

Sounds like a nightmare to tshoot some issues

[rocky badge]

I'm curious now to see what it would look like lol

but our switches have igmp stuff so its not as easy to just capture all packets with my laptop

and i'm lazy lol

[hollow marlin]

Does it mention when the PPS or packet size is for a flow?

[rocky badge]

that's what I'm trying to find

1. Be sure to use non-blocking layer-2 gigabit switches. To check whether all the ports are capable of simultaneous gigabit transfer (whether the switch is non-blocking), determine whether the switching capacity is at least 1 Gbps × the number of ports × 2 (for in and out). When there are not many audio channels, transfer speeds of 100 Mbps may also be able to be used, but to construct a more stable system, you should always use a switch that supports gigabit transfers. Also, please be aware that some low-cost switches that support gigabit transfers may have insufficient packet forwarding capabilities. Packet forwarding rate (throughput) is measured in packets per second (pps). A sufficient forwarding rate is 1.4 Mpps per port (gigabit). This is equivalent to a forwarding rate for the entire switch of 1.4 Mpps × the number of ports.

so basically...don't use a shitty switch lol

[hollow marlin]

Most modern switches are non-blocking, even cheap ones and if there is an ASIC, it will be line rate. Unless you're Unifi and that one "enterprise" switch that had a FP capacity half that of all interfaces

[rocky badge]

WHAT

[frosty stone]

I'd love to see a switch that's got all ethercon on the front and has powercon for power, just for the lols

[rocky badge]

https://www.luminex.be/products/gigacore/

[rocky badge]

no true1 or powercon

but typically you just have that or L14-30 or similar twist lock into the rack

[frosty stone]

needs redundant supplies with powercon for me to be satisfied

I need to be able to rip it out of the rack and swing it around above my head holding the power cables

[rocky badge]

but tbh all of our switches we just have ethercon patch panels in front of it lol

because ethercon switches have shit density

[frosty stone]

yeah, that would be the better way to do things lol

[rocky badge]

and it still allows stuff inside the rack be connected like normal

[frosty stone]

side note not related to networking at all.... can we please go back to monitors with power supplies in them and nomal C13 plugs, fuck ya fucking power bricks, monitors don't need to be stupidly thin. let me cable manage shit properly >:O

[rocky badge]

lol yeah

[rotund sable]

Hello, long story short I was asked if it was possible for me to install an intranet on behalf of a small non-profit organization (I would be paid living wage freelance). Based on what I know and what my friend (who has a degree in IT) said this sounds like way more than I can chew at the moment. I have no degree or certification in networking/intranet, and my background training is in marketing and admin. So does anyone know any good small IT companies in the Vancouver area who I could recommend to them instead?

Also if my friend and I are wrong about understanding the scope of this ask and it's doable LMK. But otherwise quality Vancouver IT companies would be appreciated. Pings for replies, thanks. (If there is a better channel for this please LMK)

[keen urchin]

finally! I win

[keen urchin]

higher end monitors TEND to not have seperate power bricks

[keen urchin]

"install an intranet" is pretty ill defined - typically intranet is talking about an internal website, is this a hardware network deployment, or a system they need?

[rotund sable]

i assumed hardware network and internal internet system. that being said, good to know it's ill defined and can mean other things because I got very confused given my background and what they know me for. I will ask and confirm. thank you very much!

[tardy root]

Blob i understant this probably happened agers ago but what kind of Event was this for?

[clear igloo]

@mystic latch and @thick minnow
https://www.netgate.com/blog/addressing-changes-to-pfsense-plus-homelab
So current installs still work (for now)

[mystic latch]

Just you wait! lol

[clear igloo]

Haha, yes

[thick minnow]

So I am going to be ripping the server out at some point then

Guess it's a good thing I bought that serial cable for it

[steel grove]

Can anyone confirm this?

[peak cloak]

It's not really correct

[steel grove]

What do you mean by not really?

[peak cloak]

1. P2P by nature will expose IP
2. The apps listed are not all p2p and/or have various modes
3. Having IP isn't a big deal

[steel grove]

What about Microsoft teams?

[peak cloak]

Teams is complex

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/microsoft-teams-online-call-flows

[steel grove]

Thank you

[opal pagoda]

who tf are you talking to on teams that isnt your coworker or a student

[drowsy fossil]

Vendors, not that they can't figure out our publics by checking the signature logs

[fallen nova]

I need network switch buying advice
having cat6 wired up to a couple of the rooms in the house
and having a lot a smart home stuff installed that need their own hubs

[opal pagoda]

budget?
how many ports?
managed or unmanaged?
poe?
any special requests like higher than gigabit speeds, sfp+ ports

[lavish plank]

Where can I get multiple Proxy IPs, I can use in JDownloader to bypass IP restrictions/limits?

Currently I use NordVPN but this is slow af... ~100KB/s

[pseudo blade]

Is the VPN the limiting factor or the website?

...Or your internet connection?

[sharp yarrow]

student will try to grab professors ip

[pseudo blade]

Oh no... imagine that

Imagine all the destruction one could do by knowing the scary 32/128-bit number

I could like... tell you the number or someshit

Or uh... access services you have exposed to the internet, much like the bots already scanning the internet already do (If you have a public IP, which you very well may not and then I get to see nothing at all because of a CGNAT)

I could even use Maxmind's useless GeoIP database to incorrectly determine your location

[worthy coral]

Anyone have ideas for Cisco home lab projects? I’m trying to figure out what I could lab with these.

A note, the bottom one is somewhat crippled. An electrical surge made it unable to power on, I opened it up and unplugged the PoE circuitry and now it boots (without PoE functionality) Top switch does have working PoE.

[fallen nova]

i honestly dont know how much i should be spending on this. probably need around 5 ports. i have no clue wether i'd want something managed or unmanaged and the other stuff you ask i probs don't need either since i dont know what they are except for gigabit speeds (which i dont have access to anyway)

[keen urchin]

You could start a museum 😄

oh yeah. Given it's entirely unnecessary, $82 seems like a good price

[worthy coral]

Oh, lol. I guess it is old (picked from work when they decommissioned them)

[keen urchin]

I spent $800 on a free switch 😄

[pseudo blade]

Ah, but it's really $800 on a network

The switch doesn't need a router

[keen urchin]

Look if I went around only buying things I needed, I'd have a lot more money and a lot less stuff.

[loud mauve]

Hey Guys, im thinking about buying a NAS. I dont need lots of storage or 2,5G/10G. I would use it for photos, videos, music, movies, texts, etc. Do you have any recommendations or things i shoud pay attention to? (sorry if my english is bad)

[keen urchin]

It doesn't sound like.you need a lot of storage either?

[loud mauve]

i thought maybe 8TB

[keen urchin]

I'd probably get something off the shelf that suits your needs.

[loud mauve]

futureprooving

[loud mauve]

okay

Are there reliable brands?

[keen urchin]

Basically... You can get all excited but unless you're a tech person, you probably just want it to be easy to use and do the basics

[loud mauve]

okay. i dont want it to be connected to the router/internet. how do I do that?

can i just use a simple networking card via PCIe?

[keen urchin]

Uhhh why would you not want that

[loud mauve]

i dont want all devices in or outside my house to have access

is this possible?

[keen urchin]

If you want to do that, just get a USB hard drive

[loud mauve]

i got two systems in my setup