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thick minnow
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And I won’t be able to use that type of device until I fix my wifi problems

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I wonder if they have a 5g one

opal pagoda
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can you provide the country you found that connector in?

icy spade
thick minnow
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All it takes is a 3d printer and knowing what each pin does

pseudo blade
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It does seem insanely boneheaded to rely on proprietary connectors for security

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Like it'll keep someone with no tools away but you're doomed by the second time they visit

opal pagoda
pseudo blade
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Big flat contacts - I could just bodge something together with 0.1" pins I bet

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I think I'd do it out of spite

opal pagoda
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but with a chrimp tool you can defeat anything like that

pseudo blade
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...And then if someone plugs the cable in the other way?

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Everyone involved deserves to be terminated

icy spade
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I highly doubt its anything intentional from the school. school is 197 years old so they prob picked the wrong cable type like 20 years ago

opal pagoda
icy spade
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its not token ring but yeah

pseudo blade
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The connector is token ring

icy spade
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its not i dont think

pseudo blade
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Truly contemptible bit of cost cutting

icy spade
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its also gigabit, token ring maxes out at 100mbps

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people are saying maybe its TERA but it doesnt quite look like that either

pseudo blade
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We're talking the connector

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Not the protocol
catch up

icy spade
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tera is not a protocol is it?

pseudo blade
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No sense has been made

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This has to have been deliberate

icy spade
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I'll go to the IT department and ask.

peak cloak
thick minnow
pseudo blade
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Proprietary knowledge, unravelled only with high-tech equipment like continuity testers

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-And observation

icy spade
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tragically as an engineering student I actually dont know how to use a screwdriver or a multimeter.

peak cloak
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screwdriver is like the most basic tool

icy spade
rocky badge
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@meager ginkgo @peak cloak Yoo

green dawn
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hmmm....the problem i see with speedify is its connecting through their own servers and it actually makes my combined connections slower then my single connection would be

final oracle
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Hi

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I'm trying to get pfsense working, but I don't know the config

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I have this:

PPOE to Laptop

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And the laptop has one port

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I need it to then go from laptop to switch to router

opal pagoda
blazing karma
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What an insane short

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This part looks like the converter? monkaE

opal pagoda
blazing karma
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Interesting

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Any particular reason that it shorts out like this?

shadow raven
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has anyone experienced an issue with opnsense enabling ipv6 and than the unbound service ramping up to 100% cpu usage?

acoustic dagger
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Doing a small halo ce lan party, 4 systems, I need a network switch? Never done a lan before

weak heron
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Should I be worried leaking my "ipconfig" on cmd?

frosty stone
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no lol

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that's all local stuff

weak heron
frosty stone
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of course not

opal pagoda
peak cloak
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not always, with v6

frosty stone
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it is still all local stuff on any normal home network

pseudo blade
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If your endpoint's firewall is set up sensibly who cares

peak cloak
peak cloak
sly lark
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I have a coaxial modem, and Ethernet router, does anyone have a link to Amazon or eBay that would make it work, I can send photos if needed. Please @ me.

peak cloak
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modem should have an ethernet output

pseudo blade
sly lark
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But if it doesn’t, what can I do?

sly lark
peak cloak
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demodulate the signals on the coax/phone line and turn it into digital signals output usually over ethernet

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what else would be the output? how do you not know?

pseudo blade
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You connect from it to your ethernet router's WAN port and if necessary configure PPPoE and such. If your "modem" is actually a full router, enable bridge mode.

sly lark
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Uhhhhhh

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I’ll send photos just tell me what to do

rocky badge
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Looking for router recommendations for show network...
Requirements:

  • VRRP & HA
  • Can survive unexpected power losses and not corrupt
  • Just needs to be gigabit Ethernet WAN & at least one gigabit LAN with VLANs
long scarab
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i just made a loopback plug but what is the actual purpose of it other than testing port connectivity

exotic briar
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Is there another purpose? brb googling.

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Doesn't look like it from the very limited lookinig I did.

long scarab
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well i guess i get 1 port of blinky lights

long scarab
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and apparently it breaks the rest of my home network lmao

peak cloak
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it's a loop

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and I assume your hardware doesn't have loop protection

long scarab
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main isp router doesn't, mine does

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should test this on my school DevilGlare

peak cloak
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from my understanding what happens is that all the broadcase packets get rebroadcast, and rebroadcasted, over and over again exponentially slowing down the network to the point of being unusable

long scarab
hushed ingot
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Can anyone help me rebuild some windows server 2022 dns entries

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the _msdcs.domain.local is missing a lot of entries

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which is causing active directory to not work and keeps saying "network path not found"

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I am missing these entries

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it is causing errors like this.

quaint siren
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this is TS9 connector, right?

opal pagoda
quaint siren
opal pagoda
quaint siren
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ISP sent me the router to setup, but problem is that I have 2 different types of antennas outside on the post but neither one of the plugs fit that

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so now I'm looking for a adapter of some sort

crisp thorn
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why didnt the ISP set it up for you

pseudo blade
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But seems like Martinocko did it for you

quaint siren
# crisp thorn why didnt the ISP set it up for you

Yeah so, I'm currently switching my ISP because previous one is being an ass as they swapped the data plans for worse one and they did not even managed to get 5G to work in my area.
So I called the new ISP, told me to sign the contract that appeared in my email and they sent the router into parcel machine where I picked it up. I expected them to include some adapters if possible but they only sent the unit and nothing else

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and yesterday they also sent a wifi station thing, Plume SuperPod Wi-Fi 5 - I have no use for it

crisp thorn
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call them and ask them to install it

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and take back the wifi thing

quaint siren
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I have, they told me that they'll send out a technician if it's necessary but apparently for my issue, it's not and told me to get an adapter.

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I still have no idea how my previous ISP could not get 5G router to work. Technician set it up, it got connected to the one of the towers but when he tried to ping, nothing happened, even though there was a really strong signal. He swapped the router for new one and same thing.

crisp thorn
rocky inlet
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Would it be better to get a new wifi 6 router or get a wifi booster/amplifier

hollow marlin
hollow marlin
shadow bluff
peak canyon
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So I have an odd question, does anyone know of a rack mount that can be mounted underneath a desktop? And is like 4-8 U?

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If it matters, the desktop is apart of a sit/stand desk

random violet
random violet
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ive only ever made one of these

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i wonder if there's an actual use for one i used it as a adapter but someone may need to plug in two switches next to each other or somthn

long scarab
random violet
long scarab
desert heath
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With windows remote desktop. (Andriod to pc)

How do i set it up so the screen is mirrored, and doesn't log out on the pc.

rocky inlet
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So what im not that familiar with all this wifi stuff so would the following link be wifi 5, 6, 4 or something else

peak canyon
rocky inlet
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kk

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thanks bubba

coarse rapids
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finally got that fiber

plush vale
long scarab
opal pagoda
coarse rapids
plush vale
quaint siren
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hm, so I bought SMA to TS9 adapter and for whatever reason, when I plug it into the router, it just comes right out

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like nothing is holding it

pseudo blade
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Is your TS9 connector a bit bent out?

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They're fragile, awful things

quaint siren
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It is, I bend them back and plug it it but it's still loose

pseudo blade
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Not u.FL awful but u.FL isn't external

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Could have been poorly made

quaint siren
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If I just connect the adapter its fine but as soon as I include the cables, the weight of the cables just pulls them out

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or makes them weirdly connect

slender flume
# random violet

that's clearly the I acidently cut the ethernet cable in half, fixed it by terminating both end with jacks, and then plugged the jacks into each other with the smallest patch cable possible. Only to wrap the whole thing in ducktape.

median shadow
south blade
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How do I get devices on my 4g/5g modems wifi to also see my network devices connected to my OPNsense firewall and the AP that's connected to that

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Modem/wifi 192.168.100.1 (DHCP 192.168.100.10)> OPNsense 192.168.1.1 (DHCP also here 192.168.1.100) with AP connected to the firewall for devices to connect to.

pseudo blade
exotic briar
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Anyone know about any decent managed 2.5gbe switch or better that can be put in a PCIe slot? (Doesn't need to be managed but would be massively preferred.)
I do not need a NIC, and yes I know what i'm asking about is extremely niche.

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I wanted something in my computer that could be powered by PCIe for less cable mess behind my desk.

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I hope this is wallet friendly...

clear igloo
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You can get small-ish unmanaged switches but nothing PCIe powered

exotic briar
exotic briar
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I'm assuming they are all like this and all special order...

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Which doesn't sound wallet friendly.

clear igloo
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Interesting, yah that would be a huge special order item

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But 2.5GbE is much newer and I can guarantee you would be much more expensive too

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I see a few on ebay for half that

exotic briar
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Crazy.

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At that price might as well shove a normal switch in there and DIY my case.

clear igloo
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Yup

exotic briar
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Guess I'll go back to searching in the meantime.

peak cloak
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Sometimes the modem/ONT is on the exterior of the house

coarse rapids
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Also not sure, it's all sleeved and covered up. I live in an appartment building and the ISP took care of all the installs

pseudo blade
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The toptons also bridge, pretty sure

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Quad-port 2.5gb nics are getting pretty cheap actually, $100 or less and not too horrible on CPU to bridge even if not ideal

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But yeah not sure what your goal is

nimble sable
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Can someone please settle a question I've had for a while. Is there any use in a 4x4 WiFi antenna on my AP if all my devices only have 2x2s?

thick minnow
# nimble sable Can someone please settle a question I've had for a while. Is there any use in a...

I just looked it up, seems like it’s only useful if the devices have MU-MIMO technology. The MU, in that, stands for multiple user. Which means that the 4x4 AP can use 2 for one 2x2 device, and the other 2 for another device. But if it’s the older technology, which is just called MIMO, then it can’t simultaneously connect to multiple users. So it’ll only ever use 2 streams. Which means that the other two aren’t doing anything.

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It’s possible that only the AP needs to support MU-MIMO, and the rest of the devices can be on the older MIMO standard. The two articles I read said that this wouldn’t give you the benefits of the new standard (aka multiple simultaneous users connecting to AP). And that if you want this benefit, then ALL devices need to have MU-MIMO. But a guy on Reddit said that it only matters for the AP to be MU-MIMO. So idk

nimble sable
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someone told me that the way mu-mimo works is spatial, ie if both the devices are together they'll both go on the same 2x2 and thus share the same bandwidth

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so maybe that's it?

thick minnow
# nimble sable see there's something about mu-mimo no one is telling me. I tried this with 2 pi...

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I guess this whole MU-MIMO business is pretty much snake oil. Which is why you’re not seeing much difference in performance

nimble sable
nimble sable
hollow axle
clever berry
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hey guys, I'm a student in networking and there's something I can't seem to wrap my head around: how the fuck does one find the inside global and outside local addresses and how do you make the translation work properly?

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and do you need to subnet outside global ips?

peak cloak
peak cloak
clever berry
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I'm not sure if that helps tbh

peak cloak
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For what?

clever berry
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dynamic translations

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say 192.168.1.20 needs to be translated to the public ip for the internet

peak cloak
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Yes, so that would be source nat

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You need to set the source IP to a public IP (not nessicerly it gets complex with double NAT)

clever berry
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but that would make it static, right?

peak cloak
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Because when the packet leaves the router, it needs to have its source packet changed from the local IP to the IP of the router in a SOHO environment

peak cloak
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It wouldn't make it static tho

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Home routers often use masquerade nat, a type of source nat which uses the a interface IP

clever berry
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the interface ip of the router?

peak cloak
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WAN interface IP

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A router has multiple interfaces with different IPs

clever berry
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makes sense

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but what about translating ip addresses from a network like 192.168.1.0?

peak cloak
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?

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That's not a network

clever berry
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/24

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sorry

peak cloak
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Same deal?

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Doesn't matter what the internal addresses are

clever berry
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wdym?

peak cloak
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I don't think I understand. Like a conventional home router with internal network of 192.168.1.0/24 and random public ?

clever berry
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with a reserved public ip pool

peak cloak
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Then you would would just set that pool as the source IP pool

clever berry
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as in outside source?

peak cloak
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? Is that Cisco specific wording or something

clever berry
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yeah im using Cisco stuff for my classes

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they call it outside local, outside global, same for inside

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local being interfaces and specific ips global being the network

peak cloak
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Not sure how Cisco works, most familiar with vyatta style syntax

clever berry
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never heard of vyatta

peak cloak
clever berry
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we only really use Cisco products for classes, but I'll look those up

clear igloo
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But let me double check, been so long since I've mucked with NAT like that

clever berry
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I thought local was the end device ip?

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wait, are they just the router's inside-facing interface's ip address?

clear igloo
clever berry
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I've been using the network ip for inside global

clear igloo
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Basically the docs say
inside local - not legitimate IP (APIPA or something)
inside global - legitimate IP on the NIC
In practice those are the same thing, they're going to be the private IP

clever berry
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but what about static nat?

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same thing?

clear igloo
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ip nat inside source static [inside] [outside]

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yup, just what you want to take (the private address) and what you want to make it (the outside)

clever berry
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bruh.

I've been putting the ip of the end device in static nat

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so the only difference is that the outside ip address might change with a dynamic pool?

clear igloo
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yah

clever berry
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and the outside global is the outside interface?

clear igloo
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outside global is public IP/subnet
outside local is router's ip on the WAN
inside local is host subnet or host ip
inside global is router ip on the LAN

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If I'm reading and remembering right from output of show ip nat translations

clever berry
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misread

clear igloo
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Most of the time you're doing NAT from one side to the public internet so that's why I say they're generally the same but IF you're doing it like shown here then yes they'll be different

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So basically most of the stuff today is PAT since NAT is 1:1

clever berry
# clear igloo

so in that case, inside global is the outside interface, but most of the time, it's the inside?

clever berry
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so only when there's a Wan, it's different?

clear igloo
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NAT 1:1 can still be subnet to subnet based but each inside host gets a unique outside address, there is no sharing like with PAT

clever berry
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and pat you just put "overload" on the interface, right?

clear igloo
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correct

clever berry
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that explains why my nat wouldn't work

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thanks for your help, don't think I would've figured out why it wouldn't work otherwise lol

gilded ice
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anyone know how i can make port 80 redirect or alias port 5000 on the same machine?
im running oracle linux on a oracle vm, i did all the steps it says port 80 is open but ive had no luck accessing it

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ive tried running the flask app from port 80 but no traffic ever gets there

peak cloak
gilded ice
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I ran my script as sudo, no errors server side just no traffic was getting to flask :/

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I'll try reverse proxy

gritty aspen
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Can you guys critique my network notes when i used to work as one for usmc?

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I was a glorified wiredog anyway. But might as well pick your brains for some knowledge.

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I guess there was this 2ndary layer with ip schemes and numbers I didnt quite understand. I just saw everything physically.

mystic latch
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Spoof some MACs

peak cloak
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yeah no

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yeah no, it wouldn't do anything

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not really, why do you need openvpn during flight on that specific phone? Use the other one?

mystic latch
quaint siren
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hm, so at school, we have to setup apache2 server in Debian which was easy. Then we had to set up NAT rule that everyone could access the web server but I ran into an issue. I could open the apache2 website with the IP that I had set for the server but not with public IP

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Chain was set to dstnat, protocol to TCP, dist port to 80 and then action to dist-nat, to address [apache ip] and to ports 80

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Friend of mine got his to work but I never could get mine to work

pseudo blade
quaint siren
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Yeah so when I used my public IP, it show the router web interface

long scarab
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or change the remote management port

peak cloak
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if you're in LAN and access the public IP doesn't mean it's accessible from the outside

long scarab
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just saying that's how i fixed that
when i access my public ip from lan it just refuses connection but outside it works
(older black tower from xfinity)

peak cloak
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you don't want your router webui to be accessible at all from the outside

long scarab
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that's why i said disable it or change it

peak cloak
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but just because it works from LAN doesn't mean remote managment is enabled

long scarab
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ah

swift creek
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Y’all have a good Ethernet standards chart?

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Google isn’t providing one I like

long scarab
rocky badge
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@meager ginkgo Do you know what Brightridge's 10 gig handoff is

swift creek
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gigbit speed over what distance

rocky badge
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Bc the upload is too fast for XGS-PON

hollow marlin
# rocky badge I swear it’s Metro E

Well, Metro-E is pretty much always involved at some point in the network. As XG-PON is 10/2.5G where as XGS-PON is 10/10G if that's what you were thinking

rocky badge
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Oh I thought XGS couldn't do symmetrical

hollow marlin
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Yep, it's symmetrical

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ahh

hollow marlin
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I know we have an order of Nokia XGS gear on the way to test out

rocky badge
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SO it COULD be XGS-PON stuff from Calix

thick minnow
hollow marlin
grand cloud
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I'm wanting to do a pfsense/opnsense router config with an older PC BUT I was trying to figure out how to multi-purpose the older PC as it doesn't have a bad setup (i7-4770 + RX580)

I think it's a pretty simple ask but unsure if its possible.

Wanna setup an initial VM for the pfsense/opnsense setup then setup some containerized projects via Docker such as Plex and lastly possible NAS use?

opal pagoda
pseudo blade
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Just a waste of power

grand cloud
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on her last legs haha

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will have a nice 5tb of storage though !

pseudo blade
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Mine has 16MB lol

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Had a 2GB SD card in and burned it out in two weeks with an sqlite db

opal pagoda
thick minnow
pseudo blade
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Dude DB tracking like 8 devices

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That said, running an SQLite DB from an SD card is a perfectly reasonable thing to do if it's low-writes high-read

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Especially on a more modern card with wear levelling

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@clear igloo @meager ginkgo I love my university’s standard in WiFi deployments

clear igloo
rocky badge
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Any new APs must have 6E, 5 gig capable wiring, and UPOE+

clear igloo
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Oh, nice

rocky badge
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Well, I meant AP drop & AP

clear igloo
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WiFi 7 wen 😛

rocky badge
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lol

clear igloo
pseudo blade
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My former uni had great speeds all over campus and halfway into the big agriculture plots - did a press shoot on a hill hundreds of meters away from campus and could still kinda use WiFi, it was impressive

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Well-designed WiFi with quality APs can do great things

trail venture
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So I am running into a major bottleneck and after some time traced it to the CPU speed of my current router basically its too slow for my current network and throttling speeds to around 500-700 mbps the modem is full throughput 1gbps. I am looking for something cost effective that has support for DD-WRT or Open WRT firmware and has 2.5gbps or higher ethernet ports to allow for future modem speed increases

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wifi is optional as I can just use the old router on a subnet for that and this router is just going to be bridging the wan and lan

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size is also a bit of a concern because I dont have room for a full 1u rack unit

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so something on the smallish side

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looking for recommendations idealy want to keep it in the 200-250 $ range

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used / refurb is acceptable

nimble sable
ebon wasp
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5ghz does not like anything solid

nimble sable
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@hollow marlin @meager ginkgo

meager ginkgo
rocky badge
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No more Ubiquiti in the rack Crab

meager ginkgo
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monoprice slimrun patch cables?

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meager ginkgo
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Ah, looks good

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Using monoprice in my rack..

clear igloo
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monoprice slimrun cables are chefs kiss

meager ginkgo
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^

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@clear igloo

clear igloo
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Yah, the GUI can be slick for that stuff 😄

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native folio
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Hey guys

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Need to connect two pcs wirelessly how can it be done ?

peak cloak
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wifi

pseudo blade
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After all you can do 5ghz over kilometers with the right gear

nimble sable
pseudo blade
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Yeah totally, 5ghz point to point/multipoint's a pretty good balance between speed and range

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Did a design for an agricultural school, omni on a hill (with a river in between even), 5ghz 802.11AC and directional stations up to about 5km away at various outbuildings - Worked great.

peak cloak
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if you are line of site and have high power transmitters it's easily possible

pseudo blade
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Comfortably up to 200mbps, had a two-dipole setup so dual chain 5ghz

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Line of sight's a huge deal at range

opal pagoda
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And considering there was only low power, off the shelf hardware involved with omni antennas
Really impressive stuff

cyan cedar
thick minnow
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I’ve tried power line ethernet for a solid solution to my networking issues

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Whenever someone turns on the dryer in the apartment next door it disrupts the signal

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I’m using a netgear wifi extender at the moment

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Instead of the powerline

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We only have one cable company that runs internet in my town so I don’t think I can get a separate internet service for my part of the property

uncut plume
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What is the reason for a home router to have both an IPv4 and IPv6 address together?

ebon wasp
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Because IPv6 can't communicate with IPv4 and vice versa

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Dual stack is the easiest way to be sure you can view everything on the internet

opal pagoda
thick minnow
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The internet box has coax

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I don’t want to drill any holes in the walls

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Its a apartment

opal pagoda
uncut plume
thick minnow
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Will it send the mocha data down the isp cable

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Or interfere with it

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There is only the isp cable in that room

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Can I put a splitter on that end and then put a splitter on the outside end and feed it to my apartment

opal pagoda
thick minnow
ebon wasp
uncut plume
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I only ask because my router has this stupid issue that parental controls only work if IPv6 is disabled

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You would think that Linksys would have their shit together 🙄

uncut plume
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Yeah I looked it up and others have the same issue

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And their offical answer is just turn off IPv6 instead of fixing it 🤔

pseudo blade
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You can't actually trust that traffic doesn't have something else encapsulated in it if the end user can install or use anything - SSL VPN or Tor/the like

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I'm not a parent, but for parental controls specifically maintaining healthy conversations with your child about the internet and other such topics would probably do better than some DNS/IP and MAC-based content filter at reducing risk of harm

uncut plume
brisk ledge
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not sure if its the right way to ask, but...

I want to be able to recieve quite a few files from a buddy across the web, whats the easiest/quickest solution?
Its not something they could easily put on google drive or something, cause its about 80GB, ideally just peer2peer directly to my nas, but ye, to pc or whatever would also be fine.

I would also be able to set up a smol server for whatever on my proxmox node, including access from the web, but i really dont have a fast idea.

low pond
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im not suggesting, but me and a friend would've used torrent for it and we did

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for some huge videos

mystic latch
brisk ledge
brisk ledge
blazing gorge
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Anyone know a more secure router that can accept blocklists and allow mullvad vpn to run on it?

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I thought about making my own using a raspberry pi

sturdy cloak
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PFsense or OPNsense would manage that, wouldn't go the RPi route though, best to get something with 2+ NICs on the PCIe bus.

blazing gorge
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Kk

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Hard to track down a decent router now a days

peak cloak
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Firewalla?

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Mikrotik

sturdy cloak
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If you can find a Beelink EQ12 mini PC with the N100 cpu and dual Intel NICs, it's a very nice platform for a soft router.

peak cloak
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Unifi or omada?

peak cloak
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@rocky badge internet here recently has been terrible, can't stream 1080p video without buffering, but all speedtests show > 150mbps speeds. You know of any other speedtest / quality tests to show IT?

hollow axle
# peak cloak Unifi or omada?

I had to Google omada... I like tplink, i personally use their kasa stuff but if you are going SD-WAN, go with a bigboy solution

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Packet loss? Routing? Etc? I'm not sure tbh

peak cloak
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oh at your uni?

peak cloak
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Yeah

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I work IT, but not networking

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Websites

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ohhh

cosmic steeple
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Dropping packet after installing an AP. How can I trouble shoot?

hollow marlin
peak cloak
# hollow marlin As when I get an escalation from a customer for the same thing, 2-3 test each fr...

Yep, I guess they had an idea with all the complaints. I forgot you could change server on speedtest.net and to other locations it was still >50mbps.

I guess it's configuration changes. They asked for a specific date when it started.

We are actively working on this. When would you say this first started occurring? If you happen to recall a specific day that would be very valuable information for us.

We will be rolling out an update tonight. Please test connectivity tomorrow and let us know how it performs for you.

hollow marlin
peak cloak
south gull
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can i get a different wifi antenna for my mobo that reaches further?

ember basin
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how drastic is the difference between arm and x86_64 based routers?

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for power consumption, that is

hasty hedge
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Anyone want to get started with e commerce website i can help with that

lyric socket
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Anyone knows how i could reset the password i have on the router settings page?
(like when i go to 192.168.0.1)

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it's a modem/router btw

opal pagoda
round arrow
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Hello all! I’m in the process of planing and deploying a server into my basement ( not a need but a learning exercise) I have 2.5 gig fiber into my house. Should move the moden to the server rack & then attach the WiFi from the server switch? I’m going to be setting up my own routers at the same time

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By my own, I mean I purchased not from my ISP, not one I built. I’m not that skilled

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@round arrow that's probably what i would do. so it'd look like [OUTSIDE WORLD] --> [ISP modem] --> [your router] --> [2.5g switch] --> [server, WAP, all the other stuff on your network]

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assuming you don't have to do any new major cable runs

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untold elbow
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pulling cable through existing construction sucks, good luck 🙂

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nimble sable
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Asking this again cuz I didn't get a sure answer but... What is the point of a 4x4 6ghz antenna on an AP?

nimble sable
# clear igloo dual 2x2 clients?

IRL mu-mimo doesn't actually work, unless i'm missing something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKTbNRTmzhY
as far as I can tell, there is no difference between 2 2x2's running on a 2x2 or a 4x4 in terms of speed or anything, if there is let me cuz i'm not seeing it

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That's 100% dependant on software, the spec exists and is real and can function and does. Saying "shit consumer router doesn't do XYZ therefor it's broken across the board" is a horrible argument

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For standard users there isn't a net gain but in crowded networks and when you have clients that can saturate the spectrum it definitely provides advantages

nimble sable
# clear igloo That's 100% dependant on software, the spec exists and is real and can function ...
  1. i'm not sure netgear/TPlink/Unifi business APs count as "Consumer"?
  2. IDK shit about wifi, there's a techquickie that's explaining taht mu-mimo doesn't quite work as intended IRL, i'd love to know where that is wrong, or where my understanding of that is wrong. Additionally, I have contacted tplink and netgear after sales support who have repeatedly told me their gear is working as intended and that I will never be able to actually see a combined a speed of 4800Mbps on 2 phones...why is that?
  3. I tested on all 3APs with 2 Pixel phones. when on one phone i can download at 2.3Gbps (for 160Mhz band) or 1.1Gbps (for 80mhz bands). The moment i get on the second it splits the speed never going above that on both combined. My understanding was, the whole point of a 4x4 is: let's say 6ghz 160mhz bands - one phone should be able to use one 2x2=2400Mbps and another use the other 2x2=2400Mbps so if i have 2 speedtests running i should be seeing a total download of 4800Mbps from the server, which i never do... (note: the netgear AP has an uplink of only 2.5Gbe so i tested using 5ghz band of 80mhz, meaning i should be totalling 2.4Gbps from server but i was only totalling 1.2Gbps from server. The server is fully capable of 2.4Gb because if i upped it to 160Mhz and/or 6ghz with 160 wide bands - i am able to saturate the 2.5Gbe uplink)
    [i understand in real life the speeds are going to be maybe 80% of the max speeds, as such i do regularly get 2.2Gbps or even upto 2.3Gbps on 160Mhz wide 6e bands on a single device, so my expectation is to get a combined speed of at least that much on 80mhz wide bands]
    [additional note: 1 wifi+1 wired can get me above 2.5Gbps going from the server. I've gotten upto a total of ~4600Mbps outgoing from the server. meaning, my server is capable of dishing out at least that much at a time]

additionally, for my own knowledge: please tell me, if you know, a combination of 2x2 clients and a 4x4 AP that can actually let you download at a combined speed of at least 4000Mbps (on 2 or more devices). What do i need to do, to say - be able to saturate the 2.5Gbe uplink to the Netgear AP on 80mhz wide bands (4x4)

gleaming estuary
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I have a 500 down and 300 up and connection with wiregaurd it’s 400 down 220up
On my old setup i got around 300 up and down

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I don’t really have a frame of reference with these boxes except that the Brume 2 can do wiregaurd at 300

pseudo blade
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Wireguard's pretty easy on anything unless you're expecting multigigabit throughput or something

round arrow
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If you build and maintain servers & networks. Hardware installation. What is that job title

gleaming estuary
peak cloak
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depends really on the scope

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maintain servers and networks is usually sysadmin, but all of that can be under sysadmin if it's a smaller company

round arrow
# peak cloak sysadmin ?

Thank you! Just looking for diffent jobs, and straight up couldn’t find the title ! Thanks for the help

hollow axle
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Design or build? It's a big difference

fervent brook
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Note to self: "WDS" might let me use ethernet with a cellular hotspot

opal pagoda
hollow marlin
# nimble sable 1. i'm not sure netgear/TPlink/Unifi business APs count as "Consumer"? 2. IDK sh...

when on one phone i can download at 2.3Gbps......i understand in real life the speeds are going to be maybe 80% of the max speeds, as such i do regularly get 2.2Gbps or even upto 2.3Gbps on 160Mhz wide 6e bands on a single device

The highest best case real world test I have seen have not exceeded 1.9gbps. That is in controlled environments..... 2.3gbps is literally best case scenario with Eth overhead. This is wireless which has additional overhead so I am suspicious of those claims

The moment i get on the second it splits the speed never going above that on both combined.....note: the netgear AP has an uplink of only 2.5Gbe

So are you actually getting these speeds or just looking at PHY rates? If you only have a single 2.5gbps interface, why would you expect two clients to be able to exceed 2.3gbps?

so my expectation is to get a combined speed of at least that much on 80mhz wide bands

While I am no expert in WIFI and actively avoid it, I suspect this has to do with the number of streams. Like from what I understand researching this in the past with some of our deployments, if 4x4 is actually 4x4:2, or 4x4 is 2.4/5/6 combined, then it's not 2 x 2x2 for two clients

nimble sable
# hollow marlin > when on one phone i can download at 2.3Gbps......i understand in real life the...

i have seen upto 2.3 but best case usually is around 2.1 or so. But that is besides the point, or at least besides my point. So in order to avoid gettting bogged down with semantics i'm going to use speed ranges. What i see is this

1, phone1 connected to 160mhz wide band. download speed is between 1.5Gbps and 2.3Gbps
2. phone1 is connected 80mhz band. download speed iss between 800Mbps to 1100Mbps
makes sense so far i'd say
now:

  1. phone1 and phone2 are each connected to an SSID that has 80mhz wide band on 4x4.
    * what i expect to see: combined speed between 1.5Gbps and 2.3Gbps (ie same as 160mhz band speed)
    * what i actually see: combined speed between 800Mbps and 1100Mbps

(note: TPlink AP actually has an uplink of 10Gbe so with Tplink i'm able to do the same with 160Mhz bands all through as it can do 4Gbps+, but let's stick with netgear as that is what I have right now)
note2: I confirmed w/ both TPlink and Netgear after sales (this is a business after sales suppport, not that it matters either way tbh) and they both said that this is working as intended and it is unrealistic of me to expect to see 2x(2x2 speeds) when connecting 2 devices to one SSID and this is why some devices have a 5G_hi and 5G_low as that allows the 4 antennas to be split into 2 properly

hollow marlin
# nimble sable i have seen upto 2.3 but best case usually is around 2.1 or so. But that is **be...

But that is besides the point

Sure but it's still important. Not only is claims of wired line rate over wireless questionable, but not pointing out that the range is quite large of 1.5-2.3Gbps is misleading

unrealistic of me to expect to see 2x(2x2 speeds) when connecting 2 devices to one SSID and this is why some devices have a 5G_hi and 5G_low as that allows the 4 antennas to be split into 2 properly

I wouldn't say unrealistic, but I wouldn't rely on it as there is still a ton of variables. Like I mentioned, if the AP is actually 4x4:2 or 4x4:3 instead of 4x4:4, then you'll get not benefits with 2 x 2x2 clients.

Did you actually create two SSIDs to confirm that both clients can reach expected throughput?

nimble sable
# hollow marlin > But that is besides the point Sure but it's still important. Not only is clai...

nope same SSID. should i try with 2? it is besides the point because literally all i want to see is 2 devices get faster combined speed than 1. that's it. the speeds don't matter, i want to see phone1+phone2 > phone1 alone. I understand wifi has MASSIVE number of variables. that's why i'm not expecting to see a specific speed but rather comparitive terms like "Faster" and "slower". and because i don't remember what the speeds i saw where, or don't have the prroof anymore and i do not want to get bogged down in semantics of "but you said 2.3gbps, see you only saw 1.7"...

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If support mentioned that breaking up the SSID would resolve the issue, I would test it to confirm their claims. Also rerun test with 1x1 clients to see if you get similar results and if it's expected, it's probably related to what I mentioned above

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i can't seem to get my librespeed to work properly anymore, i have no idea what i did to fix the slowness issue last time. But here's iperf3. Honestly my linkspeed is usually like 1700-1800Mbps, i have to be standing RIGHT under the thing to get 2000+ link speed, then i get this

nimble sable
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The ":y" is spatial streams. From my rough understanding, this is key to MU-MIMO and without enough to allocate to all devices, it won't even take effect.

nimble sable
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geez, it literally doesn't say anywhere in the spec sheet for either one

hollow marlin
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I've only seen it listed on enterprise gear

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this is prosumer, sold as "business" right, you'd think it'd be more pro- than -sumer but I guess not? I'm guessing this means that there's only 1 spatial stream. Ok so that makes sense, i'm guessing the "splitting" ones ie when the mention 5Ghz-1 and 5Ghz-2) that's how they tell you it's 2 streams?

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i mean look at this, why bother with the 4x6ghz?

hollow marlin
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yea they both seem to be either 2x2:2 or 4x4:2,

hollow marlin
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there's one website that says wax630e has 4x4:4 on 5ghz but...again, i can't get speeds more than 1200Mbps on 80mhz bands on that

hollow marlin
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is it an allocation issue? like the device is unable to allocate spatial streams and somehow defaults ot putting both on one cuz they are near each other?

nimble sable
# hollow marlin wireless 🤮

yea, im starting to get that, on top of everytihng else the massive amount of disingenous marketing and lies are not helping

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Less about allocation as it's at the hardware level but that is the limit of my knowledge of it. And yes, this is why I avoid it.

nimble sable
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Sure thing. If you eventually find an answer I'd be curious of the root cause

round timber
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I'm trying to decide what's better, I don't know whether I should choose a "ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 AX11000" or a "ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 Pro" please ping with an answer. Or if there is anything better, like a different brand.

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hey friends, i happen to be a networking noob!!

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I bought a second router to use as a standalone wireless network for my oculus. I hooked the second router to the original using an ethernet cable.
So it goes like this, ISP modem to original router with ethernet and then original router to second router with ethernet. Upon setup i was getting some warnings about suboptimal configurations affecting speed on the new router. Do i need to change settings on orignal router to achieve what im going for here?

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So ur trying to extend your wifi's range? Most of the routers I've played with have a "access point only mode" which basically makes them act as a switch and ap

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all routing functionality get sent to the upstream router

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If I buy an x520 (pcie2.0 x8) and stick it in a pcie x16 (only wired for x4) lane, what will happen? Will I just get pcie2x4? Will that be enough for 10Gb consistent?

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Has anyone here used Ubiquity Networking routers/switches before?

peak cloak
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Yes

pseudo blade
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I am looking at possibly getting SFP cables for linking the router and switches together, would that be beneficial?

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More specifically, what is the speed difference between RJ45 and SFP on the UDM and 48 port switches?

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Oh! It is SFP+

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Would that then be better for the network to connect via SFP+ between the switches?

nimble sable
# thorn yew Would that then be better for the network to connect via SFP+ between the switch...

i am by no means an expert, but from what i can tell:

  • Ethernet and Fiber ports is identical IFF all is within spec with the exception of distance (>55m or >100m depending on which version of cable you have)
  • if you have an SFP+ port (ie not a 10GBASE-T port) then things change a bit:
    * converting between Ethernet and SFP is expensive, or can be, in terms of power and heat.
    * DAC cables, while still copper seem to be a good middle ground. Just like ethernet they're not great at distance but for short runs they may even have an edge or SMF/MMF fiber runs in terms of latency (just a little bit - according to https://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Copper-Faster-Than-Fiber-Brief.pdf)
    * in terms of cost, from the little research i've done, DAC sseems to be the cheapest if you have to connect to SFP+ ports together. Fiber can get quite expensive and Ethernet on SFP+ ports at least as much or even more so (though with ethernet at least the cable can be a bunch cheaper which is nice).
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again, not even CLOSE to an expert, i'm pretty new to thiss, but this is what i've gleamed from hours of reading up

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Hmm. Ok. Would the particular models of Ubiquiti Gear I have benifit from SFP+ as the backend cabling?

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It's a UDM-Pro v3.1.16 and a few USW-Pro-48-PoE v6.5.59 switches.

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no idea, i just like SFP+ cuz its "cool". though it seems consumer tech is moving towards 10GBASE-T rather than SFP+ ports

thorn yew
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Well, I'm not sure the UDM or switches even support 10GB on RJ45. I think its limited to 1GB on RJ45.

peak cloak
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if not, there is little to no reason to spend money on getting sfp+

thorn yew
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I don't know. Let me check.

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Hmm. Doesn't look like I'm saturating it constantly, but it does reach a cap at least once a day for about an hour.

nimble sable
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my GOD netgears UI and help SUCKS. I'm new to complex enetworking and netgear does nothing to help in that regard. Looked at the manual for mikrotik or tplink OTOH, super easy to understand, mikrotik manual is SO GOOD, they even have examples VLAN configs with diagrams and explanations

hollow marlin
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It's similar to many other metro-e/telco focused vendors so it's not to bad once you have hands on. It's figuring out what style to use thats a major problem.

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@peak cloak @rocky badge Also get these bad boys ready for testing

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hollow marlin
# nimble sable wait, cisco has good vlan docs? nice. Honestly, netgears docs are the WORST, lik...

Cisco not only has decent vendor docs, but the 3rd party docs/material for configuration is like 80% of all material. Any enterprise vendor is basically required to have decent docs if they want to survive in the market. Take Juniper's switching doc (1 of many) which is almost 2k pages: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/multicast-l2/topics/topic-map/layer-2-understanding.html

clear igloo
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clear igloo
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@clear igloo Have you played with TREX at all? I am thinking of going down that rabbit hold but all I hear is the learning curve is steep

clear igloo
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I need to learn it though since I'm sure I'll need to use it one day but so far mostly Spirent/Ixia

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Yeah I am looking for a more universal RFC2544/Y.1564 like test as nearly any generator is hardware only. All our Juniper/Ciena/Calix gear supports reflectors (with 3rd party support) but only select models being generators.

Should be said that we currently perform RFC2544/Y.1564 with Ciena as generators but they are limited to L2 only. Juniper's ACX series only support generator as well as at L3 but ACX is .🤮

It'd be nice to see if I could get it to play with TREX

clear igloo
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Yah, if you got a decent enough server I think it can do up to 100Gbps+ but looking briefly at it seems it's got a decent GUI or YAML at least to build packets and whatnot, even supports docker

hollow marlin
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At the moment at least, 10G would be plenty. I may give it a trial in docker first which I don't recall seeing last time I looked at it. Still hard to believe Cisco has any open source software

nimble sable
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i...wait, WHAT? how?

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8.39, 7.65 and 9.80 i get, 11.2? how?

nimble sable
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LOL my ISP: we're offering 2Gbps speeds
also my ISP: we're still waiting on the multi-gig port GPONs

azure birch
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is this the right thread for questions on home servers?

fallow wing
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Does anyone knows why there is different brands selling the exact same thing ?
I knew chinese brands sell the same stuff under many names but why is that exactly, what's the point ?
I believe they'd gain more by assembling under one name that would become "reliable" as everyone buys from them, no ?
I've seen this under 5 different brand names in a 5mn search with basic keywords

clear igloo
fallow wing
clear igloo
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If one gets nuked with bad reviews they have others

fallow wing
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I thought it'd be tax related or something

clear igloo
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That's a possibility too

fallow wing
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But they bought the company that made that

opal pagoda
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Bc there rebrands are very common due to amazon requirement of having trademark so chinese companies just make words up

pseudo blade
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I don't think they find "give our competitors any tools or any free software to our customers" very compelling

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They charge a subscription for CML for god's sake

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You'd think considering it's pretty much only useful for learning and planning Cisco deployments of real hardware (which the customer will pay for) they'd at least offer that free

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best acsess ponint?

pseudo blade
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lol

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For what?

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And what budget?

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fallow wing
pseudo blade
# scenic ridge wifi

And here I was assuming you wanted it for a doorstop.
Care to say a bit more about your speed expectations? Area to cover?

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I'd usually ask if you wanted any extra features too/also needed routing features.

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Or uh... if you want it with mounts.

scenic ridge
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and like a second floor

pseudo blade
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Yeah that might be a challenge

scenic ridge
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so 200mb wifi speed?

pseudo blade
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You might get an alright WiFi 5 AP for that

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TP-link has some dual-radio AC ones within budget

scenic ridge
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roof mountable?

rocky badge
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@peak cloak @clear igloo 😔eduroam isn’t working here

high needle
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Whats yalls experience with networking equipment in an uninsulated garage

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Installed a unifi U6+ and a lite 8 poe switch, should I be concerned about humidity at all?

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The U6+ gets the best signal to the garden when its out of the insulated part of the garage and the poe switch needs to power cameras too so its kind of prefferable to have it in the uninsulated part

opal pagoda
steady yacht
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It's a sad day my netgear switch died

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Tp link to the rescue

swift creek
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I have a network share on my windows 10 machine acting as a file server and game hosting server. I’m setting up specific shares for family members and user accounts for them to use to login to their share with. Is there a way to demo this? Like discords “view server as this role” kinda functionality without using another machine?

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Am I dumb and I just sign in with those accounts on the machine to see what they can access on the drive I use for the network share?

fallow wing
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steady yacht
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Rip excellent appliance then

steady yacht
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yeah oh well for now i guess i stick with tp link

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for the moment

fallow wing
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Worked with a number of their switches

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Very nice

steady yacht
nimble sable
thick minnow
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I wonder if there is a way to use old phone lines as ethernet

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Like how you can use cable with mocha

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I have a house from the late 1960s that we are renting that has phone lines to almost every room

peak cloak
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technically kinda is possible, but expensive

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assuming 1 pair

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if you have 2 pairs of wires you can just do 100Base-T ethernet

glad ferry
eternal glacier
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upgrading your plan ig.

nimble sable
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more information needed for possible advice but it depends on your situation. First off: wired > wireless both in terms of how the internet gets to you as well as how each device in your home is connected to modem/router/whatever.
what kind of internet do you have? is it possible to get a better plan as mentioned above?

green dawn
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upgraded my interwebs. to the stars, elon bless

queen bay
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I have ethernet issues with my pc im only gettin between 6.32 and 10.30 megasbyte and my service plan is 250 megabytes and any other pc or smarphone does not have this problem

kind pivot
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If I make a raid 1 (2 drives) can I easily upgrade to a raid 5? (3 drives)

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Well I guess that would be a bad thing to do with 12-20TB drives

nimble sable
queen bay
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is via ethernet

clear igloo
clear igloo
ocean pivot
queen bay
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and the modem is at the first floor neer the main entrance

clear igloo
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That's not really a distance
roughly how many meters or feet?

queen bay
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like 15ft

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roughly

clear igloo
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Hmmm, that's not really far at all then

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What model extenders do you have?

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I suspect they're only using 2.4Ghz frequency

queen bay
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tp link tl pa4010kit av600 nano powerline

clear igloo
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Ah it's a powerline kit

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Then the speed you're seeing is perfectly right. Those are limited to 100Mbps (12MBps)

queen bay
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so power line is limited then?

clear igloo
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No, the ethernet ports are on the product

mystic latch
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Powerline can get decent speeds if the conditions are right.

queen bay
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should i try a difrent outlet?

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or should i chance the adapter?

clear igloo
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No, it won't matter, you cannot go faster than 100Mbps with those adapters

mystic latch
clear igloo
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Yup^^

queen bay
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so can i unlock the 10mbps to reach the 100?

clear igloo
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You're getting about 10MBps

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Which is about 90Mbps

mystic latch
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100 Mb (megabits) = 12.5 MB (megabytes)

clear igloo
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Internet speed is in bits by the way

mystic latch
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If you happen to have coax (cable tv) ports in your house, those are a lot better with MoCA adapters

queen bay
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my service uses fiber

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so to reach my service 200 what do you recomend i use

mystic latch
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Maybe something like these. Just be aware that powerline is very finicky and extremely dependent on the quality of your wiring and the outlets being on different breakers can negatively affect it a lot too.

queen bay
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i also have a tl lip nano usb wifi adapter that uses 2.4ghz

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is relatively the same story with the power line?

rocky badge
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@clear igloo 🥴

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NAT on business service

mint flint
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Is it possible to buy the blackwidow v4 75% with yellow switches?

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Or do I need to buy them separately

mint flint
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This is completely the wrong channel

clear igloo
pseudo blade
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Those upload speeds are unforgivable even by Australian standards

brisk ledge
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nice.

Found out why i couldnt use local domains over my opnsense router.

server1.nya wont work, but something like server1.home.arpa does work.

Same with .local (which you shouldnt anyways) or anything else i tried, its pretty weird.

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Considering i could use hostnames without a domain alltogether with my old router.

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f.e. "ssh name@pihole" worked just fine, which was pretty cool, cannot do something like that currenty.

peak cloak
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shouldn't be dependent on router

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unless it blocks it

brisk ledge
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ye found out another weird thing, this all only works for like 10 mins once opnsense is booted, so i have to fix that first...

peak cloak
brisk ledge
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great, anyways doesnt work either xd

pseudo blade
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lol, if this actually goes through it'll either be patched back in to nearly every desktop and router distro or it'll utterly wreck USB tethering and USB cellular modem support

fiery halo
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so im confused here, if you use a dns that has a dashboard, his does it work because the DNS is the same
and, if you don't want to use the dashboard, in my case it can work, how does that work lmao

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^dns.adguard.com
can I just type it in the DNS connector and just roll with it
android btw, I have something that works on windows

fiery halo
shrewd zenith
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my friend lives in an apartment block were the only good connection comes from a ethernet port, can he connect his own AP to the ethernet port through the captive portal?

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Okay! I’m planning on running cat6 cable all through my very old house. I have a duplex and I intend to add ungraded WiFi to the whole place using the ubiquity system. Did the math & need 4 of the in wall guys. My question is. How many Ethernet ports would you recommend per room? This will eventually be an air b&b so no home office to worry about, but I’d like to hard wire the Apple TV in the living room. So thinking 1 2 port face plate per room. Idk if that’s overkill

shrewd zenith
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everywhere i have been is always 1-2 ports per room.
in places like the living room its one for the TV/TV box and maybe a game console, bed rooms again TV and sometimes a PC
also its not expensive to just get a little switch if you find you need more

plain dust
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I'm looking for a usb network adapter

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Okay perfect. I just don’t want to run cables twice lol

plain dust
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My initial choice was the Tp-Link T3U Nano as it seems really popular, but I read it has stability issues and might not even work on linux. I need one that is quite stable because I plan to use it to connect to a robot while using the ax210 I have in my laptop to connect to the internet

meager ginkgo
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I’d run 2 cables per room minimum

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4 is most ideal for media stations / TVs

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Didn’t even think about smart home stuff!

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To the mapping !

meager ginkgo
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Poe to Micro USB / USB C adapters are great 😉

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my personal home if I were to run cables / build would have one in the ceiling of every room for presence sensors

kind pivot
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So I just set up my NixOs server for home automation, media file server and overall sandboxing

I currently ssh to it from my arch pc, and I dumbly set the IP to nixos in the /etc/hosts conf file

But that's not the best way to do that, I need access from any device in the home

My router is a starlink router and I also have a mikrotik switch

Should I install a DNS server on the NixOs server ?

Oh and btw I have super duper strange behavior with my whole home network I'll explain it a bit later

mystic latch
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Adguard home or pihole can be DNS and DHCP if your router doesn't expose much to you. Does it at least expose DHCP options? If it does, you can set a DNS there for all your devices to automatically grab when they join your network.

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I can't say what DNS options nix has, but I'm sure it's got plenty.

kind pivot
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I don't think starlink router allows a lot of things to be configured

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And there is a LOT of things available on nixos so that's not a problem

But if i set up any DNS on it will it work for all my local net ?

grand cloud
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Have pfsense deployed on some old PC hardware, will a PCI-E Network Card work just fine for hosting a router while simultaneously providing connection to ethernet connected devices?

mystic latch
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Ah, looks like the router might not even make that available. So either individual setting or using a box with a proper router OS on it

pseudo blade
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Unless it's a P4 or 10 gigabit or something

grand cloud
glacial linden
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I have 2 ISPs and want to use them with a load balancer, thinking of going for TP Link ER605.

I already have a TP Link Archer C6 (v2) and TP Link Archer C64 which currently handle 1 ISP each. I have to switch networks, change metrics, edit netplan, etc if one ISP stops working for any reason.

Now, is there any way to use these 2 routers as mesh that have the same SSID and extend each others' ranges? Both support "OneMesh" but I can't find anything on an actual mesh setup besides an answer somewhere saying "you need a onemesh router and extender for mesh to work, not onemesh router to another onemesh router"

I could just extend them (one extends the other with a different subnet/ssid) but I don't want 2 networks/SSIDs. How can I use the 2nd router?

peak cloak
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@peak cloak @meager ginkgo My friends and I toured this apartment....

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They don't do GPON or something to each apartment...

meager ginkgo
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Ethernet?

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It's a shared /16 network for everyone with client isolation

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At least on the WiFi...

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I didn't get a chance to plug in a laptop into the Ethernet jack in a room though

meager ginkgo
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Interesting, some apartments are super weird when it comes to internet

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This is what each room has for wired

meager ginkgo
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that wall plates been through some moments lmao

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There's the in wall AP

meager ginkgo
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Is that a brightridge tv box? or an ONT or something?

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cable box

meager ginkgo
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Ah

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it converts IPTV to fucking coaxial lmfao

meager ginkgo
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lol, surprised they don't just redirect customers to stuff like YouTube TV

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I think that's coaxial anyways, might be HDMI???

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my friends and I were hoping it was just GPON ont in each apartment

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but I got scared when there was a sign in the show room with the WiFi password and only saw one SSID

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@meager ginkgo @hollow marlin I wonder if there's way to tell if this switch is using a SVI for what I'm connected to

hollow marlin
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Yeah. The transparency is what makes logical interfaces so good

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Is there any point where I will have speed loss for adding too many hard wired lines ? I’m planning my apartments revenovations & I want to add out side ubiquity cameras as well as some extra stuff for smart locks & such down the line for the air b&b.

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Will have a solid switch

peak cloak
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Physical wires no?

pseudo blade
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And if you have enough IP cameras for your house and AirBNB to saturate gigabit you're probably some sort of psychopath

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-Even still, that still wouldn't impact internet speeds from any other device unless you had enough traffic going towards the router to saturate the interface.

pseudo blade
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One camera per corner of every room was already plenty

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I just wonder if they are using SVIs

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Hi, was hoping someone could help me out a bit. I've not really dabbled in networking, hence am a complete newbie to all of this. Recently I moved to a larger house and have noticed a major drop in wifi speeds at the edges of the house. Regardless of whether it's a 2.4ghz or 5ghz band, I get a max of about 20-30 megabit on my 200 megabit plan

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I was hoping someone could help me find a way to boost signal strength to those edges of my house while maintaining the speed and latency

pseudo blade
# modern cairn I was hoping someone could help me find a way to boost signal strength to those ...

If you want the full 200mbps you'll want to install one or multiple "access points",which you'll need to run a network cable to from your router or switch.

You could also use a "Mesh router" with a dedicated backhaul radio (which will try to accomplish the same goal over WiFi) but they seem to be expensive, terrible or both. Performance will vary depending on how you position them and I think they're a product most reviewers struggle to review objectively which doesn't help.

"Repeater" products are consistently pretty terrible and are best avoided.

modern cairn
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Gotta love contractors

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cobalt owl
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could anyone help me for some reason my pc download speed is so slow im literally getting 1mb/s ive bought a new ethernet so its not that if anyone has any tips would be appreciated

pseudo blade
hollow marlin
hollow marlin
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Really? About how many units?

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Each port is a /30

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Uhhhh, this is for the entire dorms and apartments on campus

hollow marlin
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oh, gotcha

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If a /30, then either just a routed sub-interface or SVI. Preference varies on design

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Better option is just to use private-VLANs at that point

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Does a router need the VLAN as well?

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Yes

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Or some other trunking config that presents traffic to it

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It's basically equivalent to client isolation

hollow marlin
# rocky badge How would that work routing wise?

Routing doesn't change. PVLANs are just a change to L2 forwarding within a bridge domain:

  • community interfaces <> promiscuous/community interfaces
  • isolated interfaces <> promiscuous interfaces

Router does not require a tagged subinterface as long as the interface is carrying 1 PVLAN. promiscuous interface on the switch facing the router can be an access

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Y'all I need some assistance

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As the resident "it" guy and very heavy emphasis on "it" guy, I got a call for a PC not wanting to connect to a server, it connects through WiFi but not Ethernet, imma IP reset as well as check network drivers on said PC , taking a chubby laptop with Ethernet to see if its a port issue or just a straight up PC issue, anything else i should keep in mind?

peak cloak
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@hollow marlin I just find it interesting since they have /30 per wired and then /26 for each wireless user (PPSK all devices using the same PSK are on the same subnet)

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hey do the i225/i226 ethernet chipsets put all the load on the CPUs/would a X550-AT2 be friendlier to the CPU?

thick minnow
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Hoe do I get Fibre if it's not available in my area I really want it

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I have 1.2Gbps download but upload is only like 35-42Mbps

peak cloak
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Lots of it

thick minnow
peak cloak
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Now using Xfinity

thick minnow
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How can I get it?

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I want 5Gbps

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Been trying for years

peak cloak
thick minnow
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Using Xfinity

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1.2Gbps with WiFi 6 but upload is only 35-42Mbps

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Money isn't the issue
It's availability

peak cloak
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peak cloak
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why?

thick minnow
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Idk

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Probably Xfinity having a monopoly over them in my area

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That's what my dad thinks

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Xfinity doesn't even use Fibre

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For my address

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Apparently my internet will be going up to 10G but how do you do it without Fibre?

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They don't use Fibre

peak cloak
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they are pushing as much out of cable/dociss as possible

thick minnow
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The upload sucks

peak cloak
thick minnow
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Since i don't have the upload

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My download is supposed to be 1.2Gbps

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How do I get symmetrical upload and download?

peak cloak
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Dociss is just a technology, implementation and provisioning is seperate

thick minnow
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So how do I get the higher upload?

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I want it so bad

peak cloak
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There nothing you can do

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Unless you have thousands to spend

thick minnow
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Which isn't available in my area

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It's California too so no way I can afford to move

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That's the only way I'll get Fibre though

iron quartz
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Hi I have a question regarding my motherboard and its internet support

tulip hedge
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If Im adding a port so a computer can connect to the server can I select local ports instead of defining a specific one?

meager hawk
# thick minnow For Fibre?

what he is saying is that you pay the isp to install fiber for you, which will cost thousands of dollars, because the isp will have to upgrade existing infrastructure to accomodate the higher speeds.

thick minnow
meager hawk
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that too

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So even if I pay them they can't do it

meager hawk
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if you bribe the local authorities anything can be done

hollow marlin
# thick minnow I think it's that they can't get a permit to do it

It's not always about permits or monopolies. Sometimes other providers in the area may just not have equipment required or within distance.
Even if you could pay them, avg cost to just run fiber is $12-18k per mile. In Cali, probably can double that since most the cost is labor

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Mcan someone tell me what this is, I have about 20 of them 💀

raven igloo
peak cloak
hollow marlin
raven igloo
fervent brook
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I'm guessing what's happening here is either they're using "com" as a subdomain...or ".cn" is the same as "/cn"

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although that first one would imply they own com.cn?

tulip hedge
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Y'all

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How do I tell em a port is dead af

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Lol

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And that the cabling was wrong and they used two standards on each end

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ok...i guess ive just never seen com.uk

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but that does make sense

hollow marlin
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gonna be switching my tp link AC5400 to a MSI RadiX AX6600 tomorrow

thick minnow
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I wanna run my own internet without a provider

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Just run my own Fibre

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peak cloak
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True

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Technically

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Idk all the lingo

opal bough
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why is my network max speed so low? i thought wifi 6 is supposed to be much faster than 144mbps

unkempt drum
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what wifi card is that using?

opal bough
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it says 6E idk if that changes anything

unkempt drum
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And what router are you using?

opal bough
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im not sure

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its just the one that was in my apartment

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is there any cheap decent ones i should replace it with?

unkempt drum
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my thinking is either your router doesn't support Wifi 6, or it's just disabled on your router. If you have the ability to access the web interface for it, you may want to see what shows up in the wireless settings in there.

opal bough
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unkempt drum
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yeah, in which case he probably doesn't have access to the web interface

steady yacht
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or if he does it is more likley he wont have wifi 6

unkempt drum
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and even if he does, it's probably something stupid simple

pseudo blade
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like just plug it in in place of the current one

steady yacht
# opal bough can i just replace the current one with this one?

in some cases yes however in my case to add a new router i had to disable the wifi on my isp suppled router and then via Ethernet plug my new router into my isp supplied one and that is so my new router could have internet effectivly turning my isp router into a network switch

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but as you'r motherboard is wifi 6e you would be best going with the tp link

hollow marlin
tulip hedge
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whats better

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price to proformance

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clear igloo
opal pagoda
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Anyone here use the ubiquity dream machine , looking to get it for my house ( the non pro version) as I’m getting there cameras & having one eco system seems stellar

fluid bobcat
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Anyone here use Quantum fiber and could maybe assist me with port forwarding? I have followed all of the instructions with adding a port forwarding rule and updating my firewall, but I cannot seem to connect to the local machine remotely

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@clear igloo @hollow marlin When I ran cat6 in the house I wish I pulled more to my room lol, I only did 1 cat6 and 1 om3

clear igloo
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I ran 2x cat6 everywhere else

peak cloak
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ask their support

zinc badger
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finnished.. for now

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crimson mica
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exactly

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peak cloak
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I just used another email, it's a job application

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zinc badger
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2x sfp 2x sfp+

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@rocky badge @clear igloo @hollow marlin youtube has been feeding me "a day in the life" videos from many different creators about being a network engineer and im over here watching them like "I'm glad I dont have to do any of that shit"

waxen scroll
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I laugh any time those videos show someone doing cabling / servers

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Thats not a proper neteng.

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I dont really like network chuck but that video that he and jeff geerling did for mr beast was neat

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@hollow marlin where is the You NEED to learn spine/leaf NOW

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waxen scroll
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I have not been allowed to rack for like 5 jobs now lol

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rack or patch

eternal glacier
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I have an issue. I was monitoring my wifi network, and a device named "Hurricane wave computer" joined overnight. I have no clue what this device could be and am wondering if my internet has been compromised. Any help would be great!

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clear igloo
astral holly
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Hello! I was wondering if it was possible to replace the coax to my set Verizon DVR’s with lan. There’s a lan port on the back. Would I need MoCA adapters for the dvr’s or can I plug in the lan directly?

Also I was wondering if it was possible to turn my media center into a wireless router aswell. I have a lan add in card in mind. It’s running arch Linux.

zinc badger
zinc badger
waxen scroll
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I do 7.2.4

astral holly
frosty stone
hollow axle
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Most ISP follow the same playbooks

bright sedge
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if your wifi is bad and can’t change ur broadband plans, what are some ways to speed it up. my internet is rated for 20 up and 80 down (mbps) but no device is reaching even close to that

pseudo blade
bright sedge
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10 MB up? And 8 MB down? I’m so so sorry that sounds awful

meager ginkgo
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We were having difficulty with 18mbps down 6-8 years ago.. can’t imagine 8Mbps down 😭

faint schooner
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I hope this is the right chat to ask this question, but I want to set up a DAS to backup important documents and photos/videos. Does anyone have a goto brand thats reliable, works (upload and download) over the internet, and is a good price?

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pseudo blade
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Last I heard Synology's good, QNAP's cheap(er)

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For cheaper than that build your own from old PC parts

shrewd robin
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Me and my dad finally installed an Ethernet port in my room! Though I noticed that the jack sticks out a bit much without it being lose. Shouldn’t it be flushed?

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Friend is asking about this switch, any good?

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peak cloak
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Is it not backwards?

fringe saddle
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Wait it is?

peak cloak
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I prefer using punch down keystones as well

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No need to crimp before

fringe saddle
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I didn’t have to crimp

peak cloak
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Ah ok

fringe saddle
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I fixed it. I had the jack backwards

waxen scroll
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I might ask "is it good" to @clear igloo when I am considering a 3 million dollar purchase

bright sedge
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for the next year im tryna make the most out of my rated speeds and my turns off at random points

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however im not reaching rthem

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theres are my wireless speeds if every single device is not connected and im next to the router

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is this as easy as buying a new decent router and/or getting mesh wifi setup?

hollow marlin
faint schooner
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Either of you @pseudo blade @shrewd robin have recommended ways to setup a NAS?

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nimble sable
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Is a /24 WAN address weird? Is not a local network, address matches what Google reports as my IP address

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/24 is probably the subnet you're in which is normal

peak cloak
nimble sable
waxen scroll
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you can assign smaller subnets in that block to customers as long as you're telling other ISPs about the /24 only

weak belfry
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does anyone know why my ethernet isn’t connecting to my pc, just reinstalled windows and its not connected

violet orbit
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All my fun networking activities from the last little bit 🥴

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Ran CAT6A to my room, threw it in a keystone, then printed that glorious wall plate out of translucent resin because why not?

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After that I got myself a nice little gigabit switch, connected my desktop and my rpi4. rpi4 is running OMV and wireguard; it’s a NAS. Currently this is just a soft deploy while I figure out what additional hardware I want to drop money on. But the plan is to get software raid1 up and running and possibly add plex(?)

peak latch
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I work in an auditorium as a Light and Sound technician. We are looking to send out Wifi down to the stage where the Student Government can then connect to it via ethernet. Any suggestions on equipment or on how we should go about this? We also want to keep this as cheap as we can. We will also need 2 network switches (1 in the control booth and backstage.)

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The reason we want to have them on an ethernet connection is that when we get everyone in there, the main network (not our tech network. doing this will put the Stu Gov on our network)

violet orbit
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I’m missing a bunch of information, however I feel Ethernet to each client is somewhat impractical for this case scenario. Especially if each individual is bringing their own device. Not everyone will have an Ethernet port. Are you not better off just giving them access to whatever networks wifi you’re trying to get them on?

peak latch
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runningThis is in a school theater setting meaning there's a bunch of seating and used for many different things so just runnign a cable down there would kinda be tricky and it would 1 student device, 4 sound devices, 2 light devices for a total of about 7 devices at once.

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Of those devices: wirelessly connected would be about 4

waxen scroll
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yes

elder folio
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My ISP is garbage and every day after 5PM I lose connection every 15 minutes or so for the rest of the night. The ISP blames my modem since im not using theirs (i have a netgear nighthawk i forget the exact model) is there any test i can run on the software side to prove my modem is functioning properly and the problem is on their side? If they have a tech come out and determine my modem is at fault they'll charge me $75

Every time I call support they just remote reset my router and say I'm a Silly Billy because the network is fine in my area lol

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I can play with the hardware, just wanted to see if there's a super easy software way first

royal anvil
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Okay so I just want to see if anyone can more or less say yes this will work. Basically I have shitty ass copper cables connecting my British house to my ISP so my WiFi speeds are extremely slow. I get 36mbps at best and typically average around 6mbps download. My ISP said for some reason they cannot change the cables to fibre optic it’s whatever so I’m trying to figure out a work around

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So I considered buying a 5g router which will need a 5g SIM card which in return I’m hoping will give me a strong 5g signal for my PC. However, in my area it says that I will only get 5g to my phone if I’m outdoors. I read that it’s because the wave lengths or whatever have a tough time passing through windows and concrete. But I’m wondering if whether or not putting the sim obviously into the router would almost negate that? Would I be able to get a 5g signal in my bedroom with a router despite being in an area that only supports 5g whilst being outdoors.

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The outdoor 5g coverage map thingy only lets me test if I put in my iPhone device. So I’m assuming that depending on the device it may vary but I’m unable to put a router in specifically

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Tough scenario I can imagine anyone being able to say absolutely but I’d appreciate any advice at all!

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—- possible idea I just had, could I get an outdoor 5g router stick it right outside my window and get 5g that way lol