networking

[ionic gorge]

so If I tied a port to mac, that blocks all client macs from the ap's, no?

[rocky badge]

802.1X Port authentication with multiple host

Multi host as soon as the AP is authorized the port is authorized and allows all other MACs through

[ionic gorge]

multiple host? switch 1 is still going to have to have open 2,3,4,5,6

oh, thats a thing?

so how does that work in practise, the mac of client is bundled inside the mac of the ap?

[mint venture]

Anyone knows if you can install and run proxmox through a WiFi instead of ethernet for the installation and web console

[grand ermine]

web console sure

[plucky pollen]

So me and my dad tried to test it with a 20€ Amazon device. It did make a tone when you connect both parts of it directly, but we went through all the cables (yes we probably unplugged our neighbour's internet) and it didn't show any one as matching, even the one which we know our cable internet is going through (disconnecting it made our internet stop working). What could be the cause of this? Did we possibly do something wrong? Should we try again with a different testing device?

[peak cloak]

yes

although wdym by install?

[quasi bramble]

anyone know of a switch or router with at least 2 2.5gbps (wan + 1 lan) for under $100 canadian?

[mint venture]

@peak cloak I installed proxmox via a usb drive on my pc but since my pc uses WiFi adapter I couldn't log into the web console from another pc or anything like that

[peak cloak]

oh yeah so you will need to setup wifi via the cli

[mint venture]

How do I do that?

[peak cloak]

and the default proxmox networking setup won't work since you can't have multiple macs on an wifi client iirc

[mint venture]

Oh so how should I make it work?

[peak cloak]

https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/WLAN

[mint venture]

Thanks

Is it possible to set up another router and than connect the desktop via Eth cable to that router ?

[peak cloak]

a wifi bridge? yes

[mint venture]

Yes like connect the router in my room to the main router wirelessly and then use an ethernet cable from my router to pc

[quasi bramble]

In theory yes, not all routers support it in their stock firmware though so you may need to look into custom firmware like ddwrt, openwrt, or tomato depending on what router model you have

[mint venture]

I see thanks

[distant pond]

how to set up local DoH on adguard?

[turbid scroll]

rip

[slender rune]

I ran nextcloud sync on a large folder in my surface pro and it duplicated the folder on my PC

now im out of storage space

what's the correct setup for nextcloud sync so that i only have one copy of the folder stored locally?

plz help

I have a downloads folder and a nextcloud/downloads folder in my user folder

figured it out. I needed to uncheck downloads from the folders in my /nextcloud sync

[plucky pollen]

Any ideas?

[low pond]

exchange building?

[peak cloak]

coax are well shielded sometimes you need to be right into the core piece to hear it

what device did you use

[opal pagoda]

take photo of that "20$ amazon device"

[plucky pollen]

Its this thing

Im considering trying it again with a different device

[opal pagoda]

did you test that it works on known good coax?

[plucky pollen]

We didn't have the right adapters to use it with our coax cables iirc, but as I said it did work when connecting the pieces together directly. When we tested the line that we know our cable internet goes through, it did not work however.

[coarse dagger]

If I understand correctly, Issue: Potential user unplugs AP cable and plugs in their laptop Solution: Don't give them access; door access control, cabinet lock, ethernet ends that unlock w/ tool.

[slender rune]

No, I mistakenly had the folder set twice in 2 locations

[cinder sapphire]

explain why my downloads are always limited to 10mb/s. i should be getting up to 30-40 since im paying for 500mbps

like i get downloading smth will obviously limit my speed on the test

but im saying that speed regardless doesnt match what im getting

[kind pivot]

I can't read well on my phone but don't mix up b and B
1MB = 8Mb @cinder sapphire

[cinder sapphire]

i know the difference. but 278 Mb doesnt equal 10MB

[kind pivot]

True, but then it depends on the server

Try downloading a known game on steam like cs:go

[cinder sapphire]

its the same everywhere, xbox, steam, epic, etc

[kind pivot]

What's your storage?

[cinder sapphire]

gen 4 ssd

sabrent 1tb

this is a recent issue so its not my storage

[kind pivot]

Oh btw use ublock not AdBlock 😉

[cinder sapphire]

bet

[kind pivot]

I mean your storage could have a recent issue
It's quick to check, just run a quick test
I know it sounds stupid and it's probably useless but when troubleshooting it's always better to check everything

[cinder sapphire]

how would i check a sabrent drive?

[kind pivot]

Idk, hdtune test for example

Or maybe just copy something from another drive to this one

Because speedtest works fine
If it says 280 consistently then you have around 280, there are no shady business between them and ISP

So it's probably their server that has a problem or your write speeds or cpu decompression speed or smth

[cinder sapphire]

this is under stress and i normally hit 500mbps so thats normal. what isnt normal is the lack of speed from any download

and its not my drive it would seem so far

test isnt done yet so ill see

[kind pivot]

Ok
Also try to download cs:go on steam too, with this one it will be a certainty that this is not their server
And open up a task manager to look at CPU usage and network speed while doing do (and not doing it too)

Because as I said if you get 500 on speedtest it's not your internet connection that has a problem

Oh and alternatively you can also try other speedtest websites

[cinder sapphire]

booth ookla and google say 500+

test is almost done

so its just an xbox thing then?

[kind pivot]

Yeah this doesn't hit cache size but whatever, I think that if the cache is saturated on this drive you'll go down to at least 600MB/s

So no problem with the drive and it's not filled

[kind pivot]

That was the first thing I told you

Servers aren't always up to the task yeah

[cinder sapphire]

but i used to get such good speeds on xbox...

so odd...

[kind pivot]

It can fluctuates

Maybe they have some problems

[cinder sapphire]

its been pretty consistent lately

[kind pivot]

Being someone that manages servers and didn't sleep at all last night cuz some were down believe me it happens

[cinder sapphire]

for a company that runs their own server hosting you'd think theirs would be up to the task...

[kind pivot]

Or they have a fixed amount of bandwidth and lately everyone is using it cuz Forza 5 or idk

[cinder sapphire]

i guess? but the only releases soon are starfield and exoprimal. ive seen smth like this happen when fallout 76 released but not this consistent over the last 3 months

it happens on epic too, but that makes more sense since they don't focus on server bandwidth as much

[kind pivot]

Yeah but anyway it's just their fault

[cinder sapphire]

well at least i know it isnt mine

thanks for the clarification

[peak cloak]

Well not always

Could also be congested network

[worldly spindle]

does anyone know which one is the better router between:
ASUS RT-AX86U Pro AX5700
ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AX6000
ASUS RT AXE7800 Tri-band WiFi 6E
those are the options that are available in my area & at a price that I can afford

[opal pagoda]

do you have higher than gigabit internet from your isp?

[worldly spindle]

I'm currently at a 1gp internet plan, but I chose routers with 2.5 gpbs incase I might want to upgrade

mainly looking for something decent for gaming but also comes with better range than my current router, too many deadzones

my ISP's old router had better wifi range than what I'm currently using 😂 so I'm in need of an upgrade

[opal pagoda]

you know that you dont need a new router if you want better range

[worldly spindle]

well what would you recommend me do?

[opal pagoda]

if you just want better wifi coverage get a access point and mount it where you have deadspots

[worldly spindle]

I know that'll definitely help, but my router is old enough that I thought of upgrading it first then check to see if I still need more range, then I'd get an access point

[clear igloo]

I would honestly get a firewall/router and then dedicated APs

[sage magnet]

Is there any way for me to test the coaxial cable coming into my house?
I scheduled an installation with Cox, I received an e-mail saying that it is on-hold without updates, but I didn't have the time during the day to call them.
I start grad school tomorrow and I had orientation all day Wednesday through Friday.
I set up the Motorola combined modem\router in my room and couldn't get anywhere.
I actually currently have CenturyLink, but they said they need to tear a big hole in the neighbor's hedge to get me the full 140 Mbps, while we had 300 Mbps out in the country, and Cox offers 500 Mbps for the same price.
I wasted hours with 3 different Cox employees.
The first one took longer and longer to respond and Cox disconnected me when she hadn't written anything in 30 minutes.
I gave the second one all of the information I gave the first, he asked for it again, and then I believe that he activated the modem, but didn't say so, just "Have an excellent rest of your day."
It still didn't work, so I went through everything all over again, and he said that the modem that already showed up as activated on Cox's site was now activated--but still didn't work.

I connected it in the living room and figured that I needed to run a long ethernet cable throughout the rental, just like I did back in the country, but it only got 29 Mbps, not the 32 Mbps that I got through CenturyLink.
I tried to increase this.
Cox had a page saying to power cycle the modem\router and then disable the firewall.
That didn't do anything, but I disabled the VPN, and it hasn't worked since.
Windows keeps telling me that I need to log in and then it tells me to activate the modem, but I can never complete the process, the pages won't load.
I needed to connect to CenturyLink to enable the VPN, but as soon as I switched back to Cox it wouldn't load the pages again.
I reset the network settings twice, but it didn't change anything.
I swapped the ethernet and coaxial cables without any effect.
How do I make this work?! 🙂

I bought a Motorola MG7700 Modem WiFi Router Combo.

[visual tangle]

Have you check the coax cable entering your domicile to the modem?
Are all connections tight?
Do the splitters, if they have directionality, appear oriented correctly? Are there a large number of splitters (each one has signal attenuation usually)?

In my experience a not insignificant amount of issues with cable modems in the past is that the connection to the incoming coax is bad and that's why my cable modem is not able to connect.

[sage magnet]

I replaced it without effect.

All connections are tight.
I didn't find any splitters or I would have plugged the modem\router into the cable on the other side.

[visual tangle]

That's not really a response to my suggestion.
My suggestion is examining, to the extent physically possible, every connection between the coax coming into your building coming to your modem.
Unless you are in a single family home with a single coax cable to a single jack there are going to be multiple cables to examine.

[sage magnet]

There is a box on the side of the house and a jack on the inside of the far wall.

[visual tangle]

Were the connections in the box good and tight as well?
If you undo the wall plate, is that connection good?
If yes... And your cable ISP cannot reach your modem (they should be able to tell you this over the phone) then you may have:

1. a modem incompatibility issue if bringing your own.
2. a defective modem.
3. a problem with the connection to the house from the cable company (these sometimes happen due to tree damage, or a work order to remove/end cable service to the dwelling you're in or an adjacent one but someone screwing up the work order).
   [1-3 listed in no particular order of likelihood.]

[sage magnet]

How do I open the box?

[visual tangle]

Usually there is a screw or a socket that is needed. Do they have it secured differently?

If there's a lock on it, I'd wait for my provider.

[sage magnet]

They said that they activated my modem when I had a green downstream light, but no upstream, and when I plugged into the living room I had both arrows and they were blue, so wherever the splitter is, I don't think the cable going into my room is any good.

From what I have read, it takes days of dealing with one IT employee after another until they finally agree to send someone, and they probably want to charge you.

[visual tangle]

If you find the splitter you can swap the cables, see if that helps.

[sage magnet]

If I find the splitter I can connect to the cable coming from the residential box.

[visual tangle]

Well, sometimes you'll need a female-female plug, but yes, if you already have one, great.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/IDEAL-F-Series-Coaxial-Cable-Female-Adapters-2-Pack-85-071/204063261
Something like this let's you remove a splitter.

But, when you have the modem in the one room it works?

[sage magnet]

It worked until I disabled the VPN. Now Windows keeps saying that I need to login, Cox keeps saying that I need to activate my modem, and I can never complete it because the pages don't load.

[visual tangle]

And if you hard reset the modem to factory defaults so that whatever settings you changed revert?

[sage magnet]

I never changed anything with the modem\router, the VPN is on the laptop.

[visual tangle]

(Keep in mind, "activating a modem" is basically registering its unique identification into a table and saying "this device is acceptable to connect to our network".)

[sage magnet]

Yes, which the second employee did, but the third did it again, and Cox keeps telling me to redo it.

[visual tangle]

Okay...
So, if you run in CMD with admin: ipconfig /all
Do you have an IPV4 address populated?
i.e. Do you see a network?

By what mechanism is Cox telling you to reactivate?

For traffic to stop functioning when you change your VPN, that sounds like it may be on your laptop's end.

I think you mentioned your modem is also a wireless access point and router, if you turn your phone to airplane mode and connect to your network via WiFi does your phone have access to the internet?

(i.e. Is this a nothing works problem or just not this device works problem?)

[sage magnet]

It works okay with CenturyLink, it is just half-power without putting a big hole in the neighbor's hedge.

[visual tangle]

Well, CenturyLink and Cox are two separate ISPs, no?

So what does CenturyLink working have to do with Cox working or not?
I'm confused.

(Also, I guess I'm confused as to what kind of ISP needs a large hole through a neighbor's hedge unless it is line of sight, but that's another matter.)

[sage magnet]

The installer said the phone box is inside the hedge.

[rapid kayak]

Rogers is the Comcast of Canada

Enjoy.

[visual tangle]

Okay, so the problem is in order to access the box to make modifications/upgrades they you need to cut a hole in the hedge.
Fair enough.
Would an upgrade benefit your neighbor too?
Maybe they'd be okay with so temporary hedge ugliness for better service.

[sage magnet]

I would rather have 500 mbps with Cox than 140 with CenturyLink.

[visual tangle]

So... Then back to my questions about what does or does not work with Cox and limiting the problem space?

[sage magnet]

I am trying to figure out why it completely stopped working when I disabled my VPN.

[visual tangle]

Your response to me asking if the Cox issue was a problem for all devices vs just your laptop was ~"CenturyLink works".

Not sure how that helps you...

If that's not what you want...

[sage magnet]

Cox doesn't do me any good if I cannot make it work and I don't know that I have the time during grad school to fight this.

[visual tangle]

Problem solving 101:
Define your problem space, eliminate variables.

Right now you claim Cox does not work with VPN disabled and that the Cox is now stating a modem that was working needs to be activated again...

That's a very broad problem space.

[sage magnet]

Claim, eh? Thanks for the vote of confidence.

By the way, I want Google Fiber--and a quadrillion dollars.

[visual tangle]

You've listed multiple different symptoms with multiple different possible causes.

I've asked you to look into a few different things based on your described symptoms to narrow down to a root cause.

My apologies.
Good luck.

[sage magnet]

I uninstalled the VPN and pulled up Discord on my phone. I will go through your messages one by one, but since I cannot use Discord on a laptop without Internet, I will send photographs of everything.
Yay you.

This is what I get as soon as I desable CenturyLink wifi.

[visual tangle]

Okay, what does the middle option do?

[sage magnet]

You see at the top it says:

[visual tangle]

According to you, your modem is activated.
But, if I read your messages correctly (I may not have) it sounded like you had this working in one room during the first phase of activation, then moved it the modem to your living room.
Since then it has prompted you for activation.

[sage magnet]

It never worked in my bedroom, but they activated it twice.

[visual tangle]

Okay, so it worked once in the living room, until turning off the VPN.

Are you currently connected to the modem via WiFi or Ethernet?

[sage magnet]

Ethernet.

[visual tangle]

Good, that's usually better for troubleshooting.

[sage magnet]

This is what happens when I click the middle button:

[visual tangle]

Hmm

[sage magnet]

It is like I don't have enough of a connection to establish a connection.

[visual tangle]

CMD with admin:

ipconfig /all

This will return what your laptop sees itself connected to network wise.

And I believe the address you want is the gateway address.
Using that IP in your browser should bring you to your modem's login page.

From there you should be able to get actual status info out of the modem (there will be some sort of username and password that maybe you configured before or default).

[visual tangle]

Rather than this dummy page that you keep getting forwarded to.

[sage magnet]

Apparently, it loaded that page:

[visual tangle]

192.168.0.1 is the address you want.

Wait, that's what it gives you when you try that IP?

[sage magnet]

Right. That is usually it, but some devices insist on being special.

When I told it to reconnect.

[visual tangle]

(Also, pretty clear evidence that Cox is full of BS if they're telling you the device is registered... But whatever...)

[visual tangle]

Ah. Okay.

[sage magnet]

I don't think there is anything private on these screens..

[visual tangle]

I mean, don't show the passwords, you're fine.

[sage magnet]

From what I have read, tier 1 techs read a script and don't know what they are doing.

[visual tangle]

Okay, so you need to ask someone at Cox what MAC address they have registered for your modem and confirm that it is the one you have displayed on the modem.

I assume the number on this page matches the address printed on your device (bottom or back)?

Also, you don't need to send a screenshot, but may be worth looking at the advanced options to see if your device software has a status page where it gives you any upload and download info, and if there are any firewall or VPN settings.

[sage magnet]

This is what Cox shows back on my desktop. I don't know if anyone can do anything with my serial number, but I am a careful man:

None of the options seem to do anything useful.

[visual tangle]

Neither shows you the MAC address?
Does the serial number match the one on your device?

(Don't need to send screenshots of serial number, just double check that their info is right.)

[sage magnet]

If I click on anything it says:

There aren't any checkboxes or anything to select a device--and only one device.

[ionic gorge]

Does a managed switch require a vlan tag since it has an ip address?

[sage magnet]

That depends. What do those words mean? 🙂

[Responses like that got me banned from TechSupport or something--without warning]

[visual tangle]

Right, so their online portal is halfway useless.
You unfortunately need to talk to someone at Cox who actually has the wherewithal and capability to confirm what device they have listed on your account.

[sage magnet]

That serial number that I blurred is my MAC address.

[visual tangle]

Okay, so then the way I would handle this is to call them, ask them to remove the current device, and re-add it.

I would consider a factory reset of the device, if you have not already done so, beforehand, just in case any settings you may have changed may be causing your headache.

[sage magnet]

I didn't change any settings, but I will reset it regardless.

[visual tangle]

My experience with ISPs in dealing with them for about 23 years now is that I need to know how this stuff works better than they do until I get to tier 3 or 4.

[sage magnet]

So, someone entered the wrong number, and wasted my entire day?

[visual tangle]

Because tier 1 or 2 don't actually know how anything works, and are following a script.

[sage magnet]

...and that script doesn't include any problems.

[visual tangle]

Well, something about how they entered it does not seem to be working, yes.

Look, telecoms have chosen a race to the bottom approach.

They mostly hire out a call center in India and say: read this.

And that is T1 / T2 support.

[sage magnet]

I keep reading that life is vastly better when Google Fiber is available.

[visual tangle]

I've had decent experiences with Verizon FiOS and Starry.
So far it's okay with Astound (RCN).
I've had multiple really craptadtic experiences with Comcast that have probably reduced my total life expectancy.

[sage magnet]

We only have Verizon in my area, but not my neighborhood.
I was using my phone's hotspot until CenturyLink connected and it is much better, but not nearly as good as we had in the country.

[visual tangle]

Ameritech and AT&T U-verse were middle of the road.

And AOL was a farse...

But, that just dates me.

[sage magnet]

I always wondered about sending out fake AOL discs with viruses on them.

[visual tangle]

But, to answer your question, yes, you're going to have to handle the person who answers the call, tell them exactly what you want them to do, and basically steer them any time they try to have you do the next thing on the script.
If you feel like you're going around in a circle, ask to escalate to someone who is more comfortable with your request.

[sage magnet]

Bank of America sold 1,597 rural branches to Washington Federal, which didn't have 1,600 branches at the time.
Mom and Dad spent a week transferring over their accounts to the new owners and then changed over to Chase because Washington doesn't do transfers after business hours or provide any support.
Dad passed away the next week and Mom blamed the stress from changing over all of their accounts twice.

[visual tangle]

Oh, and ask them to wait for you to confirm that whatever they say they did actually worked

[sage magnet]

Absolutely.

The third time I was trying to verify before responding, but they disconnected.

[visual tangle]

Also, mention it's your third time calling, you are still having issues, and would like to escalate.

Sometimes you can skip to a better tech.

[sage magnet]

When they said "I'll need the Model and brand of cable modem, MAC address, and Serial number" I sent a picture and apparently they messed up that.

This will be the fourth!

However, hopefully if they just put the correct number in the correct place this will actually work, so I will have them send my information back to me.

You know, since this connects at all I wonder if there is still a worse problem.

[visual tangle]

Possibly, but get past this one first.

[sage magnet]

"Hi! Nice to meet you (sending you virtual high fives), I understand that you are seeking assistance, No need to worry, you've reached one of Cox's top tier agents..."

[visual tangle]

@ me if you need me.
I'm doing some indoor cycling.

[sage magnet]

Don't the cool kids call that "Spinning?"

I asked "Exactly what is your tier?" and apparently this is a complicated question.

"Sure, I'm your support representative that handles your billing and technician support assistance."
That did not answer my question.

[sage magnet]

Once that I wasted hours of my life with five different Cox representatives and several hours trying to make it work on my own, one told me to call 912, and after half an hour I was finally able to set up the modem on my end.
My 500 mbps connection tested at 512.

[radiant bone]

I think this would fit in this chat?

My internet comes in from the wall via a Coax cable that plugs into the modem.
From there, that's connected to the router via a CAT5 cable.
Router connects to the family computer in the same room via a CAT5 cable
(This means I can't really move the router around much without running a new ethernet cable)
Router also connects to my personal computer, upstairs and across the entire house. (Again with CAT5)
Wi-fi signal is generally good through-out the house, but my room suffers connection.
They didn't run it centrally and opted to put this all in 1 corner of the house.

Is there any way I can strengthen the signal for the wifi?
Is it possible/plausible to get faster speeds by replacing any cabling?
Current router is a TP-Link AC4000 (Archer A20)
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC4000-Smart-WiFi-Router/dp/B084HLB7LJ

This is what I get using my wired connection on my personal computer across the house. Not the best but it works for gaming. The issue comes in when using my phone or if someone's on a laptop in here trying to join me in-game. They stutter and lag really bad. The latency is insane, making anything more than a very simple co-op game, pretty much impossible.

And this is what I get via my phone (Pixel 6 Pro)
Unfortunately I don't have the laptop here at the moment to show how abysmal the speed is on that.
But for instance, "Stardew Valley". A game me and my better half like to play together at times. Is a rather simple game but when she's in here on the laptop there is a good 3-4 seconds of delay between what we're doing cause of her connection. Hell, it often drops connection completely and her laptop says there's no Wi-fi at all cause it has such a hard time detecting it.

[distant pond]

Can someone please explain what each blocking mode does?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1013483206261100685/1130195821342773359/image.png?width=1996&height=1332

[pseudo blade]

In order:
Returns 0.0.0.0 or :: as the result
Returns an error refusing to resolve the record for policy reasons
Returns an error saying the domain doesn't exist.
Returns 0.0.0.0/:: again
Returns whatever you tell it to

[distant pond]

which one is the best?

[bold drum]

Well that was fun. My HBA cooked itself. The server was none too pleased.

[pseudo blade]

Guess the next one gets a fan

[pseudo blade]

Honestly whichever works for you? Leave it be unless another setting gives you a desired effect

[distant pond]

okay ty

[visual tangle]

Well glad it's working.
Isn't it amazing just how much of a hassle they make it for you to get there though?
Like, I'm paying you for a service, all I'm asking is that you deliver what I'm paying you for.

[visual tangle]

Not quite.
I have a smart trainer that has internal gearing that matches that of my road bike.
I use that paired with Zwift to do virtual rides.
Spinning is usually more a tempo and heart rate question. In my case I have virtual ascents and descents where the bike will add resistance on climbs and lower resistance, actually to the point of driving the "wheel" when going down hill.

[visual tangle]

It sounds like you have a fair amount of CAT5 running through the walls.
Depending on where all you have places to plugin the best recommendation I can give you is adding a second access point (AP), either more centralized or on the other side of the house.

The device you use can either be a dedicated AP or a wireless AP / switch (like your current TP-Link device) configured in AP mode.

Doing this should allow you to have much better coverage all while using the same wireless network ID.

[radiant bone]

I was sorta hoping to avoid that as I didn't want a 2nd point that I'd have to manually switch my devices over to. Entryway to the house is near the 1st point and it's far enough to weaken the signal, but still close enough I feel as though wireless devices wouldn't let go and continue to stay latched onto the 1st.

I haven't looked at routers in a long time. And sadly not really seeing much info regarding specs when it comes to the range. Is there any way to check that sort of thing when comparing routers? I can get it maybe...10-12 ft closer to where I need it but ideally I'd love if I could just have a bigger, more powerful signal/range

[visual tangle]

If you use it in access point mode it should not require manual switching.
It should be automatic to whichever has the strongest signal.

You would have one wireless network with multiple access points, not separate networks.

If you look back to 04/25/2023 I provided a lot of resources about wireless signal ranges, attenuation, etc.

[thick minnow]

How bad are these?

[thick minnow]

im gonna call my isp and yell at them, those numbers shouldnt be below 25

makes sense im only getting 1/5th out of the speeds im paying for

[thick minnow]

apparently my ISP is not notified when the ISP they buy bandwidth from is doing infrastructure upgrades, apparently the door to door salesman for another ISP knows more than my ISP

[kind pivot]

Pretty sure that thanks to Linus price of epyc stuff on ebay will skyrocket

[pseudo blade]

I doubt it

[worthy valve]

I am at the limit of my dogshit isp gateway/router/modem

Can't wait to swap this out for a WAG-D20

[little schooner]

I have performance issues with intervlan routing using a bare metal pfsense 2.7.0 box with two i226 Intel NIC ports. One NIC port is assigned as the WAN interface and the other is assigned as the LAN interface.

The LAN interface has 5 VLANs on its interface (Router on a stick mode). I have an ISP that is providing us with 1gbps down/up. Whenever I do download/upload speed tests, upload speed gets pinned to 142-145 mbps. This traffic comes from VLAN 100 and goes out to the WAN.

When I remove all VLANs from the LAN interface and only have it as a simple WAN+single network LAN setup, I get the full download and upload speeds again.

If I were to dedicate the VLANs to their own interface ports (one per VLAN) would this resolve my PFsense performance issue while still being able to firewall traffic?

[hollow marlin]

What's the actual problem?

[worthy valve]

I don't have a 10gig port

I have sfp+ going into my PC, switch and router but I am limited by the wan port on my ISP router that I have to use until I bypass completely

[clear igloo]

I'm asssuming this is AT&T for your ISP? If so what's the point if you're still rate limited at 5Gbps anyway?

[hollow marlin]

When I hear "dogshit", not having a particular interface does not mean it is so

[eternal glacier]

I have a problem. I just got 300 ^ and 300 v internet installed today. The issue is that I have my computer plugged into the switch (via cat 5e port in the wall) and i am only getting 94 ^ and 94 v. I've tested it with a cable that works perfectly fine for my brother's computer (he is getting 300 ^ and 300 v) and my motherboard is gig speed, can anyone help?

[clear igloo]

What switch? Sounds like that is limited to 100Mbps or your cable is damaged

[eternal glacier]

some tp link one

[carmine moss]

give the model number of it tp link makes a lot of different ones

[clear igloo]

yah, saying "a tp link" is like a mechanic asking what model car and you saying "a red one"

and you're not going through any powerline stuff are you?

[eternal glacier]

TL-SG108

[carmine moss]

you probably have a damaged cable as the switch is gigabit rated

[eternal glacier]

The problem with that is that I tried my brothers cable did not work either, but that same cable that gave me 94 on my computer gave him 300 on his

[clear igloo]

What's the layout, roughly?
PC > Switch > Router?
Does your brothers PC go through the same layout?

[eternal glacier]

Router > switch > pc

[clear igloo]

Check in your network card settings and make sure it's set to auto negotiate and not 100Mbps

[eternal glacier]

It's my mobo

The asrock b450 pro4

Gig speed lan port

[carmine moss]

so is your brother on the switch also or is he on a different port in the router?

[clear igloo]

But port speed can be manually set by accident, make sure it's not set manually to 100Mbps

[eternal glacier]

Where could i check that?

[eternal glacier]

He is plugged into the switch as mine

FYI all my drivers are updated

ANND my pc is getting 280 ^ and 140 v on wifi

[clear igloo]

Control Panel > Network & Sharing Center > Change Adapter Settings > Right click on the NIC > Properties > Configure > Advanced

Speed & Duplex is what you're looking for in there

[eternal glacier]

What is nic

[clear igloo]

Network card

It will be called Ethernet something, likely Ethernet or Ethernet 1

[eternal glacier]

Probably gig?

[clear igloo]

Was it set to Auto?

[eternal glacier]

Yea

[clear igloo]

Try setting to 1.0Gbps, IF it disconnects you set it back to Auto

[carmine moss]

so the mobo you have has a realtek rtl8111h nic and looking that up seems like other people have had trouble with that moddel on their motherboard

[eternal glacier]

Gig is still giving me 94

[clear igloo]

You don't have any "gaming" prioritzation, packet prioritization software installed on your machine do you?

[eternal glacier]

No

[eternal glacier]

Any fixes?

[clear igloo]

If setting to 1.0Gbps manually didn't kick you off the net then it's negotiating fine link wise so something Windows or software related is likely to blame

[eternal glacier]

Im still runnin fine on gig

[eternal glacier]

My mobo was updated about 3 months ago

[carmine moss]

try reinstalling the lan driver from the asrock website

[eternal glacier]

Will do

im not that good at finding drivers

if you could help that would be nice

[carmine moss]

you have the b450 pro4 right

[eternal glacier]

b450m pro4

[carmine moss]

https://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/b450 pro4/index.asp#Download

[eternal glacier]

so update the mobo?

[carmine moss]

it should be the realtek lan driver the global download

[eternal glacier]

so this one?

[carmine moss]

yeah try that as those are the drivers for your network card

[eternal glacier]

alr

btw thanks for your time

prob setup.exe?

[carmine moss]

yep

[eternal glacier]

"install complete"

ill restart and see how it is

still 94

[carmine moss]

i would check if you have something installed that is messing with the speed tho the realtek nic's are know to have problems

[eternal glacier]

any programs in specific?

[carmine moss]

have you used some driver updator or optimizor as those are bad

or things that say they optimize your internet

also vpn software could limit speed. tho if you don't have any of those things the easy option is get a pci-e nic that is using a intel chip

[eternal glacier]

I already have a 1000 mbs wifi card in my 16x slot

[carmine moss]

it's only pci-e x1 you need for a nic to be gigabit

[eternal glacier]

Like this top one?

it says:

pice 1
pcie 2
pcie 3

[carmine moss]

it should work in that yeah

[eternal glacier]

how abt the pcie 3

[carmine moss]

it should work an any of the pcie ports

[eternal glacier]

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-1000Mbps-Gigabit-Ethernet-supported/dp/B003CFATNI/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

how about this card?

[carmine moss]

i would get one that says it has a intel chip as that is also a realtek one

[eternal glacier]

any reccomendations?

[carmine moss]

just lok up intel nic and get one with good reviews when buying it on amazon

tho check that the chip on it is made by intel

[eternal glacier]

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabit-Ethernet-Converged-Network-Compatible/dp/B074PQWQB5/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3KXJ1RGLJ8LAP&keywords=intel+nic&qid=1689629938&sprefix=intel+ni%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-4

[carmine moss]

this is a newer card then the one you linked https://www.amazon.com/1000Mbps-Gigabit-Ethernet-Controller-Converged/dp/B01LYSK23E/

[eternal glacier]

alright

I just wanna run a few more tests to see if my xbox is having the same issues, then ill prob just order that one

thanks for your time btw

I'm probably gonna head to Walmart or Best Buy and see what they have there but I will make sure to get a Intel based nic

[fallow tangle]

Found the most useful tool ever https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/
It’s an internet and cell data map run by the FCC with speeds, cables, everything

[fallow tangle]

Anyways while I am here I am looking to run ethernet in "my" house, I have a T3200 rn, I plan on putting a wifi 6e router upstairs when I run it with cat5e, do I need to upgrade to a different model, internet is 100 down 52 up , DSl for now (as that's the best available for my area). Do I need a network switch or can I just run the Ethernet from the modem combo into the wall and use the router as a switch? on a side note, does the T3200 auto update or do I need to go run 5 years worth of security patches?

[wild wren]

That isn't fully updated because my ISP isn't even on the map...

Actually 2 ISP's that i'm able to use/have are not on that map

[fallow tangle]

Dec 31, 2022 (Last Updated: 7/12/23)

also its US only

[wild wren]

I know

Well these providers have been available since 2009 and the other 2019

[fallow tangle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

blame the gov ig

https://youtu.be/fiFoxZKywv4

[wild wren]

Lol it's alright, I live in the boonies not like I have any good options anyway

The best option we have is T-Mobile 5G Home Internet and it isn't available because too many people are on it

The other option is, a fiber option, but not fiber to the home, and so many people are on the switch or whatever it's called that packets will drop

[rough dove]

Thoughts on this card? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4VH4G1C?tag=realgear0b-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[visual tangle]

Unfortunately it is not completely accurate.
I've had to submit corrections.

The place my spouse and I bought had full duplex 1200 Mbps listed from one of the providers on the map...
It was not true at all.

[placid igloo]

anybody want to help me configure my cisco 2611xm?

[pseudo blade]

1. You're much better off asking for assistance by saying what you actually want to achieve with it.
2. That thing's a relic, don't expect miracles

Frankly I'd personally consider it to be too old to bother with

[carmine moss]

Yeah it's only useful to learn ccna on as a homelab not as a daily device

[clear igloo]

That 2611 was ancient when I got my CCNA 10 years ago, lol

[thick minnow]

What is this junk ?

[delicate glen]

nice

[strong axle]

dayum

@delicate glenCheck on your pc with ipconfig again

so that its not a admin panel error

[delicate glen]

I have fixed it manually setting the address

[delicate glen]

My PC is fine, router dhcp server behaved weird

Solar radiation

[strong axle]

💀

Bitflips happen

[worldly crystal]

For those who have worked with moca adapters I have a question about setup. I have a splitter running a cable into the adapter and one into the modem. For the Ethernet cable on the adapter, does that plug into the modem or the router

[eternal glacier]

I have a question

If the nic that I just ordered was labled as 10/100/1000, will the nic be able to run a 300 mbs or will it either be 100 mbs or 1000 mbs

[peak cloak]

If both sides support 1000Base-T it will negotiate to that link speed, which is the max that specific link, but the actual bandwidth over the link can be lower

[peak cloak]

Router

Only should be one cable out of modem at a typical home setup

Which goes into router

[eternal glacier]

So yes or no?

[peak cloak]

Nic itself will only run on either 100 or 1000

That's link speed

These days everything should be gig link

[eternal glacier]

So it won't run 300 mbs?

[peak cloak]

Look that I posted above, if you only have 300mbps server it will work fine. Think of link speed like a pipe, a larger pipe can always carry less water

But not vice-versa

[eternal glacier]

Ooohhhh

Great explanation btw

Thank you!

[worldly crystal]

I did a closed loop test so I know the adapters work, but they won't seem to find each other in separate locations. The end point should work as it used to have a cable box plugged in, but does that necessarily mean it'll work for moca or do I need some kind of additional filter

[peak cloak]

I'm not an expert on moca but you should have a moca filter on coax going into your house so it doesn't go to others, and I think you need moca compatible splitters

[worldly crystal]

There's not much I can do about what comes into the house, but there was a splitter included in the box. I'm using that to split between the modem and the adapter

Obviously there's some issue with the cabling somewhere but I'm not sure where. I'm just fairly certain the coax cable still works at the end point

[peak cloak]

yeah there are other splitters somewhere else that also would need to support moca

[worldly crystal]

I know where the coax comes into the house so I could check that, but besides that I'm not sure what other splitters there might be

[hollow marlin]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll Looks like I am going to finally be able to implement SR/SRv6...well at least on a small segment of our network

[clear igloo]

Nice!

[waxen scroll]

I gave up on v6 for now. our switches are WAY too unstable and I just cant afford to introduce another protocol

[hollow marlin]

Yeah I am going to be doing a deeper dive in SRv6. I'm familiar with the basics but I need to make sure it's not going to cause havoc with some of our platforms on older code

[pallid dome]

Hello, does anyone know of a device that is the size of those stick size PC’s and has Ethernet on both ends, preferably something that is a dedicated device for VPN. Basically I want to plug Ethernet into it and then give out a VPN’d Ethernet connection.

[peak cloak]

what you basically need is a tiny router with VPN capability, never used this so I can't say how good it is https://store.gl-inet.com/collections/brume-2-gl-mt2500-mt2500a-security-gateway/products/brume-2-gl-mt2500-vpn-security-gateway

although at price you could just get a router

like this one https://mikrotik.com/product/RB750Gr3

[pallid dome]

Yeah I was looking for something smaller, again like the form factor of those intel compute sticks but that first one looks perfect, thanks 🙏

[rose glade]

This is my company’s server+nas. It is in a basement where you get 0 cell signal. Yes, that is a rack mount server being used as a desk. Yes, I hate it with every ounce of my being.

[waxen scroll]

Quit and work at a fortune 500

[opal pagoda]

needs cable managment and it will be good to go

[fleet gate]

Idk how active this is but can someone pm me?

I have a very simple question lol

[meager ginkgo]

Just ask here and someone will respond

[thick minnow]

don't ask if you can ask. Just ask your question. If someone can help you, great

[peak cloak]

and I thought my company was jank

[rose glade]

Yeah…

It’s pretty bad

[peak cloak]

we had tower servers on a plastic shelf about to break in half

it has since been replaced

[rose glade]

Lmao

They plan on moving it

But their plan is to literally move it to the next room over, which is possibly worse

It’s a horrible dusty basement

And by dusty I mean dusty

[rose glade]

I don’t really have that option rn

[thick minnow]

Guys is there a way to boost my wifi speeds for free? (preferably on my pc). I got really low speeds, more of upload.

[peak cloak]

depends

what is your internet plan

[opal pagoda]

there is

[thick minnow]

I have that

[thick minnow]

Wdym? like who I'm with?

[peak cloak]

what you pay for

[opal pagoda]

its simple as connect one end to router and other to pc

[thick minnow]

Oh im not sure my dad does it lol, I'm only 14 but something around 50 pretty sure

[peak cloak]

if it's DSL, then that sounds about right

[thick minnow]

oh alr, idrk if i have dsl or not

is there a way to check?

[rose glade]

Really the best way to boost speeds is to upgrade plans. 100mbps plans are rather cheap nowadays, you’ll want to check upload though

[peak cloak]

look at the modem

[thick minnow]

okkk

[peak cloak]

and the cable coming in

[thick minnow]

Ok

[peak cloak]

but there isn't much you can do unless you pay more

[thick minnow]

thats toughh

[rose glade]

Actually what I said depends on what country you live in

[thick minnow]

Yeah I'm from Canada

[plucky pollen]

If you aren't directly next to the router, getting 41 on a 50 plan is in no way unusual

The upload being much lower is just part of your internet plan

[thick minnow]

My router is like in a the room beside me

[thick minnow]

got it

[plucky pollen]

Yeah like through a wall?

[thick minnow]

yes

[plucky pollen]

Yeah it's pretty normal

[thick minnow]

Alrighty

[rose glade]

I don’t know much about Canadian internet

Seems like it’s fine though

[thick minnow]

Rip

For the Canadians, I am with bell

[plucky pollen]

^

[radiant bone]

That's what everyone says should happen in practice. But the reality I've experience and from what I hear from others is, the devices constantly latch on to the first signal and are stubborn about jumping to another signal.

(As also stated in Techquickie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW4wT7gob7s

Honestly it's not that big of a place, but since I can't afford to re-wire the place with higher quality cabling and/or set up a mesh kit? I'd rather just get a good quality router for gaming that has better range than my current TP-Link AC4000 (Archer 20).

Problem is I can't find reliable info on router ranges... hell, most product pages don't even list the range.

[visual tangle]

The server or the shelf?
Jank unclear, need more specifics.

[visual tangle]

The problem is range is highly subjective.
Geometry of the rooms, materials of the walls, etc. all have very large impacts on range.
So, anything I advertise is... probably just something people are going to get pissed off at me about when it doesn't work as advertised in location X.

[peak cloak]

the shelf, it bending heavily

[peak cloak]

range is also dependent on client device, Tx is only as good as Rx kinda

[paper hare]

Does anyone know any routers that have quad core and less than 200 quid?

My poor old asus router is dying with its two cores 😪

[icy barn]

Wifi 5 or wired 100mbps?

[plucky pollen]

Wdym

[peak cloak]

Why the need for more cores

Just need a device with more performance

[peak cloak]

Test and see

[icy barn]

Oh I meant would it be better to game on which config?

[peak cloak]

.

It depends

Although Ethernet prob has less latency

[plucky pollen]

Wired is always better

But wdym by wired 100 mbps

Do you just mean ur internet plan is 100m or do you mean a 100m ethernet connection

[icy barn]

My wired port is only 100 the gigabit port is used for a switch at the other side of the house

ISP provided router 😂

[peak cloak]

Well if it's only 100 you could technically get more bandwidth over wifi

[peak cloak]

Get a gigabit nic

[plucky pollen]

Yes, that's why I asked if they mean 100 mbps ethernet, but there's zero reason to use that in 2023

since gigabit is so cheap

[icy barn]

I’m thinking of just adding a switch at that gigabit port to split

[peak cloak]

How would that help?

[icy barn]

One of the ports is gigabit so have that connect to new switch then connect the existing cable to the switch and move the cable in 100 to the switch

[paper hare]

I got an asus router that has both cores maxing out when two or more devices are just watching something

So if i was gonna upgrade to a wifi 6 router, I would want more cores?

[peak cloak]

Number of cores doesn't really matter

You just need a more powerful router, not something with more cores

Something capable of the bandwidth

[dreamy whale]

@high forum

[south blade]

Anyone ever use a PC fan to cool a modem/router with power over USB/USB-C? Trying to wire an HP FAN that has green/blue for data and yellow/black for power (Google images), to USB-C which looks like power should be black and red, but it's not coming on.

Trying to see if adding cooling to the TMHI 5G modem would help potential overheating it's likely doing.

[kind pivot]

If you want to dumbly power UP a fan with hacks like that you need a DC fan and not a pwm one

So that you can control speed through voltage

Usually fans start spinning at 5V and go up to 12V at full speed

If it's pwm it's switching between 12V and 0V at a certain frequency and the higher it is the faster it spins

[paper hare]

I got a gigabit package from my ISP, and the router is capable of 1600Mbps (Asus RT-AC86U). It has a dual core and the bandwidth is higher than the ISP, so would I just have to find a router with a lot higher bandwith like 5400Mbps?

[opal pagoda]

i personally just cut off a end of a worn micro usb cable and solder it directly to fan wires

[peak cloak]

That number is probably not max throughput, just marketing junk (maximum wifi bandwidth on all bands)

[long thistle]

Can I use M.2 -> PCIe x4 adapter to use it for my NIC?

I mean

Will it work just like normal full-size PCIe slot?

[thick minnow]

can i have multiple routers from same company, using same wireless settings ? i mean SSID and Password + Encryption, and they will work as one large covered area ?

[long thistle]

you'll need WDS Bridge feature on each of them

if you mean to connect them together wirelessly

[dreamy whale]

What do y'all think of this plan?

The powerline is on the same breaker and the rooms are next to each other so the run is very short

[long thistle]

PLC will be bottleneck for the switch behind the end devices

[dreamy whale]

Do you think I could still get 600ish Mbps?

[thick minnow]

no i connect all of them with ethernet cable to their port 1 so it works like AP

i hope it will work 😄

and i guess if the wifi details are all the same devices will switch to better signal aka closer AP ?

[long thistle]

I don't think so

[drowsy fossil]

they will not automatically switch, the client will connect to whatever has the best signal as soon as it sees, and it will only switch off once that signal gets too weak
there are special 802.11 features that enable roaming, but they arent common on things called routers

[long thistle]

you'll get about 50 Mbps at best

[drowsy fossil]

thats not true

there are significantly faster powerline devices these days

[long thistle]

but still

it won't be anywhere near 600 Mbps

[drowsy fossil]

you can get a solid half gig

think of it like wifi

[thick minnow]

specially not common on devices such from year 2014

[drowsy fossil]

if its called a router, it probably doesnt have any of the 802.11 roaming extensions

thats usually reserved for AP's

[thick minnow]

its called modem router (Annex B) 😄

[long thistle]

wouldn't be better if he'd go with some 5 GHz mesh and then connected switch to one of APs, especially in American house with paper-thick walls?

[drowsy fossil]

probably, but powerline is cheaper and only barely slower

[thick minnow]

i have xDSL connection... if i pay for 50/5 plan.. is there a logical explanation why i only get 30/5 ? (there is provider with 100/20 i was wondering what bandwidth i would get there...)

[drowsy fossil]

the further you are from the ISP, the lower your speed is with dsl, may also want to call them to make sure its working properly

[dreamy whale]

I live in Finland. It gets -25°C in the winter so we have thick wall

[thick minnow]

yea im in the same boat atm trying to find a mesh system that will be good enough for my house, due to it's thick brick walls and the fact it's a long house im stuck between a rock and a hard place on 2 different mesh systems

[drowsy fossil]

can highly recommend running wires to each ap, it works

[thick minnow]

that would be annoying, my house isn't square it's more of a rectangle

[drowsy fossil]

you will however generally have a better time with wireless mesh than powerline

[thick minnow]

i mean i was gonna wire one of the mesh nodes together anyway but the 3rd one would have to wireless

[drowsy fossil]

ye and thats fine, you will definetly have to play with the exact location and rotation of the second and 3rd ones to get the best signal tho

[thick minnow]

im stuck between the TP deco X20 2 pack or TP link s7 3 pack, both are on sale

but i feel like 2 wouldn't be enough even if they are wifi 6

[drowsy fossil]

tbh you can get shockingly good coverage with just 2 or even just 1

[thick minnow]

my house is like 1200 - 1300 square feet which to most houses that mesh is targeted in is small but having barely no internet in my kitchen and garden is a pain

[drowsy fossil]

another thing to consider is the mesh devices often have really fancy directional antennas

[thick minnow]

oof not the ones im looking at

[drowsy fossil]

so you can often get better coverage with a single mesh ap than a classical insectoid

[drowsy fossil]

nah i mean if it has antennas poking out, its not fancy
the fancy stuff you cant see the antennas

[thick minnow]

yea my friend recommended me something earlier but i don't have 700 dollars to spend

[peak cloak]

yes

although you want only 1 router

other can be Access Point

that way it's the L2 network

[thick minnow]

hmm i think i answered my own problem

[peak cloak]

I assume modem is also router right?

[drowsy fossil]

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/business-100-series-access-points/business-access-point-ds.html
this dood is highly rated, and its a relatively long range unit for around $130
pretty sure it is mesh supported

[thick minnow]

like they say better to not cut too short or you will have more problems

[peak cloak]

and I wouldn't reccomend a raspberry pi as a firewall

[thick minnow]

i'll probably go with the S7 AC1900 as i want wifi in my garden

i get about 1.5 down and 0.4 up when im in my garden

even if i just get 50 up and down i'd be happy, if anything this just to shut up people in the house when they complain about having no wifi

[dreamy whale]

A modem is a modem. Firewall acts as router in this case

[drowsy fossil]

how much does a dream router cost in your region 🤷
i suspect you could get alot more out of a single udr than you might think

[peak cloak]

yeah I wouldn't reccomend the pi

I often ask since people say modem but they mean modem/router combo

[drowsy fossil]

a raspberry pi is barely enough to be a dns server, and it can handle being a dhcp server for a relatively small network

actual routing? nah

[dreamy whale]

Well then I don't really have a choice than to use the really old modem as a router as well

Which will be a security vulnerability

[drowsy fossil]

you can throw the dns and dhcp server on the pi to speed things up slightly

[peak cloak]

why not get a router?

[dreamy whale]

Power consumption

[peak cloak]

A dedicated router doesn't consume much power

you can get like a HEX

not a fan of routerOS but it's descent enough

HEX consumes 10 W max

[dreamy whale]

Also money is an issue

The power consumption is an issue cause of not having much money

[peak cloak]

fair, although the HEX is pretty cheap

[dreamy whale]

Not "using stuff I have lying around" cheap

[raw wind]

Dumb question, if I configured router A to pass IP through to router B, would I be unable to access router A's settings?

[peak cloak]

are you talking about a modem/router in bridge mode?

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[raw wind]

ATT gateway, so not technically bridge mode since that's not an option, just "IP passthrough"

[peak cloak]

ah yeah, so it depends (I don't have experience with ATT internet), in theory it should be possible if the IP and subnet of Router A and B don't conflict

and depending on how router B does routing

[raw wind]

That would probably be it actually...

Let me double check and change it over

[opaque cargo]

looking for suggestions on cisco switches that are gigabit, fanless, sfp port is a plus and ios cli for a home lab. I know, I know, im looking for the "holygrail" of switches but my search continues only because the only thing I can find on this is 5 year old forum posts.

[kind pivot]

Why specifically Cisco, to learn CCNA? @opaque cargo

[opaque cargo]

@kind pivot yes to learn CCNA and to use Cisco in my home lab that way I can become more familiar with the CLI on a daily basis

[pseudo blade]

What's your budget and how many ports do you require?

[clear igloo]

If you just want to learn the CLI pickup a ISR4K, Cat 3850, etc. for anything basic and advanced
Or even just do EVE-NG or CML

[pseudo blade]

Is an ISR4k fanless?

+1 for EVE-NG or CML

idk, I look at physical Cisco stuff and go "I can fill a lab for what that would cost me" and use something else, the affordable stuff is generally museum pieces.

ISPs here in Australia mostly have PoI speeds <10 gigabit ($6 a megabit and then you pay for NNI ports on top lol) so frankly Cisco's finest are not really necessary for industry :P

Please enjoy the wholesale prices, which are not NNI inclusive

[hollow marlin]

Virtual lab is the only way. Physical labs to have their hardware/electricity costs, but the larger issue is scale as you can only lab so much to get a full picture on a handful of equipment.

[pseudo blade]

I agree

I'd much rather this than chuck a grand or two at an ISR4k and have a homelab of precisely one router

[hollow marlin]

Yep. Just purchase a single year, download the images and toss them in EVE.

[eternal glacier]

Finally after 5 years of waiting, fiber was installed yesterday and I can't believe my eyes.

The 1000 mbs ^ and the 1000 mbs v tempted me, but this is honestly enough.

[gleaming hearth]

hey yall, i just switched isps and have a 2 gigabit plan but my mobo's lan only goes up to 1 gigabit
is there any good 2/2.5 gigabit network cards i should go for?

i found a lot on amazon but i don't know which ones are reliable

[eternal glacier]

I just ordered a gig speed one from 10gtek on amazon, and it should be arriving in about an hour. They also have a 2.5 Gig card available, so I'll let you know my thoughts on the one I got.

[gleaming hearth]

alrighty

[eternal glacier]

https://a.co/d/gRVDNt2

This is the one i got

[gleaming hearth]

why is the 2.5G model cheaper?

that's off

[eternal glacier]

That is strange

Leme look

[gleaming hearth]

34 usd for the i210 and 18.99 for the 2.5G model

[eternal glacier]

Ah, that's it. It's a reaTek rj-45 port instead of a intel rj-45

[gleaming hearth]

ah

ive heard people have more problems on realtek

[eternal glacier]

That's exactly why I'm getting a nic

My mobo based rh-45 port is broken

[eternal glacier]

Just look up "2.5 gig intel nic" on amazon

Intel chips are really reliable

[gleaming hearth]

for some reason i'm only really finding gigabit nics

or 2.5 gig that are expensive

[eternal glacier]

Ltt did a vid on one

[gleaming hearth]

I only found thishttps://a.co/d/6BFQifh

its intel and not overly expensive like the other listings

[eternal glacier]

Well if I was gonna get a 2.5 gig nic, that would probably be the one

Good reviews

Not insanely expensive

[eternal glacier]

https://youtu.be/iBbcgqnFdIw

[gleaming hearth]

alright thanks

i found a i225-v network card here and just bought it

brand/company doesn't really matter right

the chip is the most important?

and seller being reliable ofc

[eternal glacier]

Sorry for the late response

As long as it is an intel based chip, it should be really reliable

[peak cloak]

https://twitter.com/olegkutkov/status/1682096769205665793

Oleg Kutkov 🇺🇦 (@olegkutkov)

SpaceX is preparing a new 802.11ax WiFi router.
Modelname: UTR-231.
They may bring back built-in Ethernet ports (according to FCC, there are 2-3 LAN ports). Goodbye, external Eth adapter, then.
#spacex #starlink #router

Twitter · Jul 20, 2023, 6:34 PM

[crimson mica]

Whats ur budget?

[analog sonnet]

cant remember...in poe budjeting is it recommended that you leave 10% or 20% of the budjet left over?

[south blade]

I tried this, by what Google images says, yellow to red, black to black, should be powering the fan but I get nothing.

[opal pagoda]

get separate router and access points

[crimson mica]

How far you need the wifi to reach(house/apartment sq ft).Need wifi 6/6e?

[winged spruce]

hey question how can i fix my ping i get a stable ping while but then sometimes it goes high randomly

[plucky pollen]

Are you using wifi

[safe vessel]

Are there any cons for using SFP+ Switch/NICs? I haven't needed anything besides 1Gb until now, just because I want to run a few NDI from a few machines to a server using OBS.

Also to have a server for large file sharing.

[drowsy fossil]

if you need to go back and forth its rather expensive

[safe vessel]

I have three ISP and have to use Speedify or Peplink Speedfusion, lol. Probably a bad idea then.

Very rural

[drowsy fossil]

🤷 that shouldnt be a problem?
just need to be aware of all of the devices you are plugging in

[safe vessel]

Internet comming from three other small 1gb switches, all going to three other PCs.

[drowsy fossil]

as long as all 3 pcs have sfp, theres no problem
or just swap 1 switch at a time

[safe vessel]

Three 1Gb NIC in each pc already.

Any Windows compatibility issues or network conflicts?

[drowsy fossil]

windows cant tell the difference

[safe vessel]

Cool

Any recommendation on brands? I am not used to seeing these.

[drowsy fossil]

there are compatibility issues with specific chips but that shouldnt be too hard to avoid
intel and melanox work great on windows

and yea it doesnt matter if the connector is rj45 or sfp, the issues are the same regardless (for the chips that have issues)

[safe vessel]

Cisco, Brocade, NetApp, Dell, Arista, Juniper. Anything good/bad out there?

[drowsy fossil]

ah big money switches
be aware that some of those brand suppport 3rd party sfp modules and some dont

you sure you cant go cheaper for example mikrotik or netgear

[analog sonnet]

anyone not been able to install ubuquiti unfi? its kinda pissing me off, ive got the latest version of java download but its saying I need Java 11, but saying it found a java version on my pc...I downloaded 11 but it still wont work.

[safe vessel]

Yeah, I just had someone tell me to check ebay for switches that companies have used and dumped due to upgrading.

[drowsy fossil]

🤷 it just requires a bit more research

definetly avoid netapp tho imo unless you get a real good deal, they tend to be very proprietary everything

[safe vessel]

Thanks for the help. I think a couple hundred bucks may be worth the time that I might spend on those from ebay. 😆

[drowsy fossil]

well how much do you need?
mikrotik is often cheaper tho ive more been researching 100g generation stuff recently

[safe vessel]

Did you check for other java versions that might need uninstalled and reboot the pc? I remember Java always being a pain when I worked corporate years ago.

[analog sonnet]

had to uninstall 20

stupid but it is what it is lol

[warm salmon]

Is CCA sufficient for PoE(+)? Or do you really need CU Ethernet cables?

[pseudo blade]

Most network administrators won't even consider CCA for plain data cabling due to its many caveats. Not actually legal for cabling here in Australia for many use cases.

If you're asking if it'll work instead of if it's a good idea... it'll depend on current draw, run length, wire gauge and cable quality.

You can get away with a fair bit of bullshit if the runs aren't too long and needed current is low.

[clear igloo]

I mean if you want to create an insulator then it's fine?

[reef geyser]

Hey, so I have a small homelab with 2 servers and 1 laptop (which I use has my main PC). Should I go for 10 Gbps or 2.5 Gbps LAN?

[warm salmon]

Yea I just read some stuff about it having many downsides, and not being legal in some places, I’ll go with CU. Thank you for help

[warm salmon]

Depends on your needs, other bottlenecks and your budget.
I doubt you really need 10GE, but maybe if you’re a video editor or move around large files for fun.
You’ve to make sure your 2 servers and laptop can handle 10GE Ethernet and file transfers, if you only have gigabit Ethernet cards and a gigabit internet connection, you’ll have to get some better network cards first. Or maybe your CPU’s or drives can’t even handle those speeds.
If the price difference between cat 5e/6 (1GE) and cat 6a/7 (10GE) isn’t too big, and you’re planning on utilizing the extra speed from time to time, or want the other benefits from S/FTP (more shielding), you might as well.

[reef geyser]

So right now, I'm using Gigabit Ethernet for all the networking, I don't often edit videos, but I would want to edit it from my network storage instead of my PC, since I'm using more and more storage on it.
Right now, I have 3 Raid-Z1 500 GB HDDs, but when I'll switch to higher speed, I'll probably upgrade it to 2 TB Mirror HDDs.
I often use VMs for testing purposes, or just for services that needs another OS to run on
Do I have to get SSDs instead of HDDs? Can laptops handle 10 GbE (mine has got Thunderbolt if it helps)?
Would SFP+ be better than RJ45 for my usage?

[warm salmon]

I don’t know much about NAS or server hardware, but I if I were you I would look into what your current bottlenecks are, it’s either the Ethernet speed, the HDD’s, your server CPU, or your laptop

SFP+ is just expensive and something that’s only useful in datacenter in my option

Unless you need the 500-600 meters SFP offers, instead of max 100m RJ45 does

[reef geyser]

I'm using CAT. 6 RJ45 cables for all my Gigabit network, I heard that it's possible to make a 10 GbE network with those but only in short distances (I only got 3-5 meters cables, so I think It's good)

So the bottleneck is more about the switch and the cards, they are at 1 Gbps

[warm salmon]

I would just look at how much 2.5 (or 5 if it’s around the same price) would cost and how much 10 would cost

And make a decision on that

10gbe is still relatively new and hella expensive

10gbe switches can easily cost 200-300 euros, for basic models

(But don’t get me wrong, I’m currently in the process of putting 10gbe in my own house)

[reef geyser]

I found a QNAP switch for 200€ with 2x 10 Gbps ports and 4x 2.5 Gbps, and a Microtik switch with 4x 10Gbps (but SFP+) ports and 1x Gbps port for 134€.
2.5 Gbps cards are usually around 25€, and 10 Gbps cards are around 100€

Which do you think is the best? I don't really know what to go for

[reef geyser]

And SFP+ to RJ45 adapters are also expensive

[warm salmon]

The microfilm switch will require 4 10gbe rj45 modules

[warm salmon]

Exactly lol

[warm salmon]

If you want 10gbe you’ll at least need a switch that can connect all of them to 10gbe

So at least 3 10gbe ports

Or you use 1 less often

But I would look at your needs, if you really need it or not 🤷🏼‍♂️

And maybe look at eBay for second hand switches

[reef geyser]

I would at least need 1 adapter for my laptop

[reef geyser]

I will look at it, thanks

[warm salmon]

And for your server(s)

Idk if they already have 2.5/10gbe network cards

[reef geyser]

No, I can buy a SFP+ card instead of RJ45

but for laptop, it's not possible

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo

why is the single mode cheaper than multi mode

[clear igloo]

Is that the multimode you needed?

oh, lol, good question

maybe volume pricing?

[rocky badge]

all of our fiber is multimode rn

[clear igloo]

Yah, the only thing for why MM is more expensive is they don't sell well so the company is charging more or producing fewer so it costs them more

[rocky badge]

oh

makes sense

[clear igloo]

or at least that's all I can think of that's making any sense, lol

[paper plaza]

Speakin' of fibre, does anyone have a contact at Infinite Cables? I never got a response back on an inquiry to sales@

[thick minnow]

Question

How do I change my routers default login ip

I’m trying to chanit on opnsense

I need to change it from 192.168.1.1

[fierce crown]

Do you want to change the IP address of the router, or the IP range for all devices on the network?

[thick minnow]

I have two routers on the network

Both will have the same remote login address

I think

[fierce crown]

"To set the LAN IP, go to Interfaces ‣ [LAN], set “IPv4 Configuration Type” to “Static”, and under “Static IPv4 configuration”, set “IPv4 address” to 192.168.1.1 and the subnet dropdown to “24”. Then click Save."

https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/dhcp.html#

So within the "Interfaces>LAN" section, basically.

[thick minnow]

Ill tell you if it works

Im setting up my own router downstairs

Internet keeps going out

[fierce crown]

Yup nice catch, can't have two devices with the same IP, especially routers!

[thick minnow]

Yeah

[peak cloak]

Make sure only one is doing NAT if you want to avoid problems

The one that is connected to modem

[thick minnow]

Both of them are connected to the modem

With a independent switch

[peak cloak]

Are you sure modem is not also a router

[thick minnow]

Modem get internet from internet company

Router turn into wifi

[peak cloak]

Nope

[thick minnow]

💀

[peak cloak]

Access point spits out wifi, a home routers main purpose is NAT, to map the 1 public IP you get to your LAN

[thick minnow]

Im trying here

I have a ap

[peak cloak]

Your setup wouldn't work unless ISP really messed up on their end (by providing more than 1 IP) or it's a modem/router combo

[clear igloo]

Unless you're behind CGNAT and your ISP is handing out multiple private IPs per account but even that's unlikely

[thick minnow]

Screw it double nat timr

Oh man

So you are telling me I have to buy two aps

[peak cloak]

Most home wifi routers can act as an AP

[thick minnow]

Nope

Dog water router

[peak cloak]

Instead of plugging into wan port, plug into lan

Just turn off DHCP

And make IP within your subnet, but something that's not .1 and won't conflict

[thick minnow]

Oh man how did I get a certification in networking

Granted it was like 4/5 years ago

Let me think about this for a minute

Oh god I forgot the admin password for the router login

I’ll just return everything where it was

[fierce crown]

hahaha this is a whole experience

[thick minnow]

A spider just crawled out of my switch

I nearly had a stroke

[carmine quartz]

Who can help me i have a problem with my pfsense i have opend the ports in pfsense for my servers i can connect using the local ip address but i cant connect using the public ip and the server is running my vriend can connect and the ports are open how can i fix this issue

[clear igloo]

You don't connect using your public IP when on the local network

Unless you enable hairpinning but you don't need to. Forwarding works, just connect via the LAN

[carmine quartz]

is this the reason why my bungeecord setup cant work the proxy is on a server offside and the game servers are here internaly

[clear igloo]

most likely, yah

[carmine quartz]

and if i enable hairpinning that it wil work and i can connect using external ip if i opend the ports

[clear igloo]

In theory, yes it should work
Under System > Advanced > Firewall & NAT
Check the boxes for:
Enable automatic outbound NAT for Reflection
Enable NAT Reflection for 1:1 NAT
NAT Reflection mode for port forwards - Set this to Pure NAT if not already

[carmine quartz]

Okey thx for the explenation this was a problem i walked into for 2 weeks nou this was real helpfull

[clear igloo]

Let me know if that fixes it 🙂

It should but just in case it doesn't

[carmine quartz]

it worked perfect the page loadend instand and the servers are online for my with my external ip

[clear igloo]

Awesome 😄

[dreamy whale]

I got a ZTE MF289F today and my plan was to set it to bridging mode and use my ASA 5506-X as a router. I have my ASA configuration below with what feels like something that I should hide hidden with a string of #. GigabitEthernet1/4 to GigabitEthernet1/7 are just replaced with a // ... just to make the text file more readable, those are the same as 1/3 and 1/8. I set my laptop's IP to be 192.168.69.100 and connected it to GigabitEthernet1/2. I get a connection to the router but I can't connect to the internet.
I hope someone here would have the know-how to help in this situation.

[clear igloo]

When you do "show route" (or show ip route) I forget if the ASA takes different command for that. Do you have a default route going out the WAN?

[dreamy whale]

I just figured the issue out myself...

I didn't setup a static DNS

[clear igloo]

Ah, that might do it 😄

[dreamy whale]

Now I gotta setup a DHCP server so my WAP will actually work as intended

Damn my WAP sucks

With a cable I'm getting 192Mbps down and 48Mbps up. Over WiFi I'm getting 40Mbps down and 48.5Mbps up

[median shore]

Hi folks, I'm in the market for a new router primarily so I can play games from a room that doesn't have easy access to run an ethernet cable. Obv the best solution is to use an ethernet cable, but I am renting my apartment and as such can't afford to run a cable through my apartment to my home office.

A couple of pointed questions I have:

• Are mesh routers worth it/ is there any significant additional latency incurred by having a mesh network (my apt is around 1k sqft, so this looks like it might be a bit overkill)?
• What features should I be looking for (from my research, maybe Wifi 6 + tuneable QOS, but I'm not really sure what impacts "gaming" performance other than the pure latency overhead of having a wireless connection)?

[opal pagoda]

best way would be MoCa if you have coax in your house
second best would be powerline
then comes varous wifi mesh solutions

• this video applies to you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0vy1VzFbf8

then after you use MoCa/powerline to get ethernet to your room you can get access point or router in ap mode and a switch to improve wifi coverage around your room

[plucky pollen]

Ive tried powerline but it was shit in my case

Moca should be better

[thick minnow]

Much agreed. I never consistently got more than 75 Mbps over ethernet-over-powerline adapters. Moca should be much more consistent, and error free.

[plucky pollen]

I got 15 mbps literally in the same room

[opal pagoda]

could be bad quality wiring or 2 outlets are connected to diffrent breakers so signal need to go from room to breaker box and back

[plucky pollen]

Yeah idk i never got any better than that

[opal pagoda]

hm
it could be bad adapter

[kind pivot]

25-50m cable and just lay it on the floor

[fair coral]

anyone know of low-cost 2.5GbE managed switches, ideally say $100 or less?

i have a bunch of TP-Link unmanaged 2.5GbE switches and they've been great, but i'm beginning to do things that need VLANs :(

[clear igloo]

Unless you get STUPID lucky on ebay? None exist that I know of unless I missed one on Serve The Home's roundup

Cheapest I see is a Hasivo S600W-5GT-SE which is about $125 on AliExpress

https://www.servethehome.com/the-ultimate-cheap-2-5gbe-switch-mega-round-up-qnap-netgear-hasivo-mokerlink-trendnet-zyxel-tp-link/

[fair coral]

i found that on Taobao for 555 CNY: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=725287574980

not sure how much i can trust this tbh.. altho reviews seem OK

[cosmic estuary]

I've forgotten what low-cost even looks like. I work mostly with Cisco and Check Point gear 😝

[clear igloo]

I heard you want to look at this model. You'll need a smart license for that 😛

[cosmic estuary]

Oof, don't get me started... We borrowed one of their Industrial Compute units loaded up with CyberVision software and licenses to scan and map our manufacturing enviroment. The tech is cool. The tech is damned cool. It saw every PLC, who it was communicating with, vulnerabilities, unsafe coding practises... everything.

... and then I get a sneaking suspicion. We never discussed price, they wanted us to have a look first.
... because the first shot of Heroin is always free....

[clear igloo]

Haha, yah

Some of that stuff is wicked cool but then you see the price and it's just like "do I REALLY REALLY need it?"

[cosmic estuary]

We got the price and landed on "We really REALLY don't" :p

[clear igloo]

I really wish we would actually simplify the license stuff at the very least, it's so freaking complicated sometimes. Let alone look at decent prices for stuff

[cosmic estuary]

We could hire two full-time security analysts for the annual cost of monitoring 650 devices :p

[clear igloo]

yikes! was that with discount too or just base price?

[cosmic estuary]

That was with discount. The only way you ever pay base price for Cisco is if both Cisco and your vendor truly hates you. Being a nobody they never heard of before gets you close to 50% off :p

[clear igloo]

Yah, nobody pays base price, lol
It's like 30% discount minimum if you're super hated but if you talk to a VAR then the discount gets better, lol

[cosmic estuary]

To be fair, they have gotten a bit better with their licensing. After all, they're not the gods they once were, they do feel HPE Aruba breathing down their necks.

So now they're merely very expensive, not extortionate.

[clear igloo]

Yah, there are a lot of companies breathing down their necks these days. Licensing has definitely gotten better but the smart stuff is still irritating depending on what you're looking at

I'm just glad I'm not sales most of the time

[cosmic estuary]

I'm fairly happy just being an operations monkey. I've spent the last five weeks in hell, covering the Operations Manager role while he had a much-needed vacation.

And I pretty much just laugh loudly when the slavetraders call and want to recruit me for a Service Delivery Manager type role. Man, that is the ultimate masochist position.

Being under fire from everyone. The customer, the account manager, all the project managers, the consultants... Trying to consolidate that mess.

[clear igloo]

Yah, lol, sales gets a bad rap but managing all that crap that some of the customer delivery managers have to face is just shudder

[cosmic estuary]

To be fair, half the shit they face is because sales got creative and overpromised.

[clear igloo]

Oh 1000% true

[cosmic estuary]

Got an interesting discussion coming up... trying to get the customer to go for a license upgrade.

[clear igloo]

ooof, those usually aren't any fun best case and worst case they're a nightmare

[cosmic estuary]

The features they and the seller discussed are at the very core of Cisco DNA, the AI insight and enforcement stuff, but when it came bid time they wanted the price down and went for DNA Essentials :p

So, they've basically got an expensive monitoring box that does nice wifi maps.

[clear igloo]

That sounds very familiar

[cosmic estuary]

Now they want the stuff they discussed but didn't buy 😂

[clear igloo]

Reminds me of some of the sales people I'm working with. They booked some engagements without accounting for scoping them (you know, actually getting requirements for testing) and then scream when things don't get done in the time they scoped

[cosmic estuary]

And of course, the customers CIO isn't a complete idiot. "So, you guys want us to pay you more for features that make your life easier? Why? We're already paying you to deliver <service requirements>, seems like you should be the one eating this!". Well, he's not entirely wrong.

[clear igloo]

yup, that sounds about right and to the CIO's point they aren't completely wrong as you said

Should have scoped it better to begin with 😛

[cosmic estuary]

Our current sales weenie is pissed at the entire thing. He's one of the sensible ones. He never promises stuff without talking to the techs first, but he inherited this mess from the previous fly-by-night sales jockey.

You know the type, new company every two to three years as they've burnt all bridges and pulled all the moves they can, so they gotta move on to a new company and repeat...

[clear igloo]

Yup, I know a few of those people

Or they get fired up the corporate ladder if everyone else isn't lucky enough -.-

[cosmic estuary]

We call it the military advancement strategy. Promoted to a position where you can no longer cause damange :p

[clear igloo]

Oh there's always a way to cause damage, it's just a different kind of damage, hahaha

[cosmic estuary]

We don't have many of those where I work, but holy hell there's a lot of Peter Principle going around.

People who got promoted one step too far, and instead of being the competent lower level managers they were they're now completely ineffectual middle managers...

[clear igloo]

Yah, usually the problem sorts itself out but every once in a while they crop up.
On a different note, at least your customer's CIO isn't trying to manage the architecture of a new data center putting their bias into everything to benefit one vendor over another. Especially in a large company where they have no business meddling that far down

[cosmic estuary]

We've got a sort of strange dynamic there. We're the customers partner and they trust our recommendations fully. All they demand is that we don't have vendor bias either. They don't care what it says on the box or what the details of the solution is. They have a budget, they have a set of goals they want to reach, and they trust us to reach it for them.

They have two criteria that override price: Security and interoperability.

Stuff has to play together, and it has to be safe.

[clear igloo]

Yah, having a budget and finding the best solution to fit in that box reasonably well is perfectly cool. Trying to shoehorn in a solution that doesn't fit and then changing requirements to advantage one vendor over another really grinds my gears

It needs to work and work well for the given requirements in practice not just on a data sheet or from a sales person's word 😛

[cosmic estuary]

It's like Prophet Sebastian says, never buy a product based on future promises, buy on what it actually does today :p

And seeing is believing. Many sales peoples hopes and dreams have been crushed in a Proof of Concept run 😄

[clear igloo]

You don't need no PoC, just trust me bro!

[cosmic estuary]

Heh... yeah, that's the sort of talk that gets the customers purchasing manager looking for his chicken wire and trawl weights :p

[ionic gorge]

Does windows change anything else other than gateway, subnet, dns and dhcp server when switching from static and dhcp? I have two PC's for testing, one static IP and can connect to a site to site vpn, the other with static ip does not, switch it to dhcp it works. Windows firewall off. Any other hidden changes to look for?

[cosmic estuary]

DNS suffix perhaps?

[radiant bone]

So I got a second TP-Link router (Archer C54) to connect up in my room. Used the tether App to set it up as a 2nd access point. It's connected directly to my other router down across the house. But now my speed on my computer is stuck around 90MB per second or so instead of what it was, which was 350+

Connected via a Cat6 Cable, so not sure why it's limiting my speed so hard

[cosmic estuary]

@ionic gorge Since the VPN is site to site, I assume there's nothing on the actual computers? Then it's just a matter of communication between the subnets. If the gateway and mask is correct you should be getting IP traffic. Try pinging a known host on the other side by its IP address (provided it does reply to ping requests). That should get you one step closer in troubleshooting.

Also, check if Windows marked the connections public or private.

[cosmic estuary]

The Archer C54 only has 100mbit wired networking. You're getting the expected speeds.

[radiant bone]

Yup....fell for the marketing on the box. Fuckin damnit.

[cosmic estuary]

I had to read the spec sheet twice to make sure I was reading it right. Who makes an AC router with 100mbit ports? Scummy marketing indeed.

I hope you bought it somewhere with a decent return policy?

[radiant bone]

Local Walmart. I live in TN and there's not many places to buy electronics around here. Most people still think computers are the devils creation.

[cosmic estuary]

Well, then you should at least be able to get your money back and get something fit for purpose.

[radiant bone]

Yeah, just have to sort through them. Find what's available at my store, then look up the ACTUAL product page cause Walmarts page isn't displaying the speed of the ports...

[cosmic estuary]

Even on their own site TP-link tried pulling a fast one. The screenshots say "FastEthernet" which is another word for 10/100 but is likely to fool some users. Have to open the hardware specs at the bottom for actual numbers.

[radiant bone]

Setup:
Wall -> Modem -> Router (All located across the house)
Family computer is located in same room as Modem and Router.
Cat5e ethernet cable from Router -> Across house to my room -> Into computer
Wifi sucks up there. So best option is to add an access point.
Thus Cat5e cable will be run into a router in this room instead of back of computer.

That being said, can anyone tell me the differences between these 2?
https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-ax1800/#overview
https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-a9/#overview
Just need one that won't throttle the connection to my computer when I reconnect it via another short ethernet cable. But that also gives off good wifi so that GF can game on laptop in the same room.

[fair coral]

definitely not gonna spend that much for my home network

i mostly deal with Arista and Cisco at work

[ionic gorge]

@cosmic estuary thanks for the reply. I can't ping anything the other side. But can on any other pc. Vpn is on my main network which is private. Unless windows someone can filter the vpn traffic to public?

[tacit mantle]

My surface won't connect to my internet. I have a hidden network. On every device I try it connects and has internet but for my surface when it connects it still says connected without internet. On my router Iogin it says it's connected but nothings going through the surface. Any ideas?

[pallid dome]

How do the web portals on routers know what devices are routers and which ones aren’t? Do they only utilize the MAC and TTL for that? I’m using a VPN anyway so TTL is out of the question. I changed my MAC but I don’t know for sure if it’s not detected anymore. I live in an apartment with shared internet, but they don’t want us connecting our own routers for some security reason. Pretty sure everyone in this entire building is all on one LAN, so ironically this would be more secure.

[cosmic estuary]

Your own router would give you NAT and some additional security, yes, but for every end user doing it right there's some idiot plugging to one of the LAN ports instead of the WAN port. That causes all sorts of problems with additional DHCP servers etc.

If you have a spare PC, I'd do a pfSense box or something between you and the shared network. Unless someone really went looking they wouldn't spot it as a router.

Whereas with a regular router you'd find them with a simple port scan, checking MAC vendor data.

[pseudo blade]

Generally they don't. Some providers do check TTLs but you can hide that easily by incrementing it with a firewall rule. If anyone's using MAC OUI's to detect routers that's news to me - sounds difficult or impossible to me to do properly.

You can't see the MAC of any device behind a router, it's lost when routing occurs.

-Well I say that but IPv6 uses it now to make your address.

[ionic gorge]

@cosmic estuary thanks for the message for support. It was a routing table issue. Seemed to have changed it's default nic to route down. Working now

[bright sedge]

what is the best mainstream router on the market? im looking for smt that can cover 1500m/sq with good speeds.

around 75-100 devices

[clear igloo]

You want at least 1 or 2 dedicated APs, Unifi, Meraki Go, Aruba InstaOn, TP-Link Omada all come to mind as having capable APs

[bright sedge]

I thought stuff like the Omada were made for businesses

I’m just tryna supply my house with consistent, good speeds

Basic stuff like gaming, streaming, downloads and office work

Only issue is the amount of devices

[clear igloo]

If you're going to have 75 to 100 wireless devices you need something that's not a pile of junk that can handle that many clients

Most of your Asus/TP-Link/etc all in one router/switch/AP models choke to death when nearing 30 devices on wifi

[bright sedge]

I can probably sort through all the devices and remove excess stuff

[clear igloo]

A dedicated AP is much better anyway, larger coverage area and whatnot and all those I listed don't have per-month licenses or anything

[bright sedge]

Can I not just buy smt that connects many different devices like washing machines, fridges, CCTV cameras then use that device to connect to the router

So then it is only listed as 1 device

[clear igloo]

Why? Why not buy a single dedicated AP that connects to a router that can handle everything properly?

If you need multiple APs a Omada or Unifi can handle seamless roaming too

[bright sedge]

Rn I’m using my ISP router and I’m getting 20mbp up and down

[clear igloo]

An EAP670 is about $150 or a EAP610 is about $85
Either of those would crush the requirements you have

[bright sedge]

Do they have mesh capabilities

[clear igloo]

Within the same AP, yes

But a single AP doesn't need that, with multiple you roam between them seamlessly with the same network ID

ISP Router > PoE injector or power to wall > AP
Setup the same SSID (wireless network) name and password on the AP
Disable wifi on your ISP router
Done

[bright sedge]

Ty I’ll order the EAP670

[clear igloo]

Yah, that would be an amazing improvement from what you have and is pretty simple to setup 🙂

[bright sedge]

btw this is kinda off topic but what is the difference between a home router and a gaming router

[clear igloo]

One is a router and one is a router that has the word "gamer" in the name and a higher pricetag because of that

[bright sedge]

Ah

[clear igloo]

Yah it's all marketing junk

[bright sedge]

Bc I noticed the EAP690 has ax11000 in its name and it reminder me of the ‘gaming’ router

[clear igloo]

Ah, the AX11000 is part of the marketing
It can, in theory, do 11Gbps of combined wireless throughput across all bands in perfect condition

[bright sedge]

So is ax11000 tplinks best technology?

out on the mainstream market

[clear igloo]

Pretty much at that pricepoint yes

There is WifI 6E but unless you have 6E capable devices and want to drop around $500 for one it's not really worth it right now

[bright sedge]

What is the product name for tp links wifi 6e

[clear igloo]

EAP690E

[tacit mantle]

Damn nobody acknowledged my help question

[opal pagoda]

this isnt tech support

[tacit mantle]

But it's networking

And it's network related..logic?

It's OK if you don't know either

[pallid dome]

So surely changing my MAC will stop it from being detected? And since all the connected devices are going through a VPN, they would not be detected?

[pseudo blade]

MAC is basically irrelevant, though a full tunnel via a VPN will mask the devices behind it, no TTL mangling required.

[hollow axle]

A lot know what the the router that they connect back to are. So if you aren't there router, your are a client. (Hint, you are a client and you aren't going to win)

[hollow axle]

Depends on the device, I have an RT-AX86U with an AX58U wired aimesh node that handles 58-60 devices fine. Admittedly, ~70% are IoT on 2.4ghz and all high performance are either wired through a catalyst or on 5ghz but saying "all consumer network if junk" is a bit over generalized

[clear igloo]

"Most of"
I didn't say every consumer router was junk, I'm sure some newer ones might handle things better but I gave up on trying that long ago especially since most of them never get firmware updates long term nor (in my experience) are nearly as reliable long term
Is that client count on a SINGLE RT unit?

I just don't see the point for most tech minded people to bother though since a single dedicated AP can usually crush what a general AIO unit could handle, under load especially.

[hollow axle]

The main router routes all that load. The aimesh node only services like 13 clients

Iot can be good or bad too depending on the technology

[clear igloo]

I'm not talking handling LAN > WAN NAT load, that's super simple these days to handle and track for most consumer devices even, I'm talking number of wireless clients and placing a load on a single AIO unit over wifi over long periods of time

IOT is thankfully low traffic, unless it's part of a botnet or doing something else malicious 😛

[hollow axle]

Higher-end consumer network gear works. I do enterprise architecture in my 9-5 and don't want to deal with it when I get home. COULD I build a checkpoint/Cisco stack for my home? Absolutely. Would it run well without a team managing it? Nope

The concern about updating is why I usually recommend Asus merlin

[pastel lodge]

Hi guys, i'm having some questions and problems due my network. Is really my network or i'ts just the S.O? I mean, in games no problems but is in youtube and google search that crowds super fast

[hollow axle]

What do you have?

[pastel lodge]

I got 600MB/s in download and upload

[hollow axle]

It's never your bandwidth

[pastel lodge]

And i don't know what is doing this issues

I use a Cat 7 cable

[hollow axle]

ISP supplied router?

[pastel lodge]

Yes, it's from the official company

[hollow axle]

What carrier?

[pastel lodge]

Here in spain we got a lot of companies and suppliers

Company : MasMovil | Supplier : Yoigo

[hollow axle]

#1 don't use cat7

[pastel lodge]

I don't got other cable

[hollow axle]

Get a standard cable and try that

[pastel lodge]

I mean, I only got that one and the problem is that sometimes here in spain the prices are up in the sky, and my router is like 10 metre of me so I'm using an extensor

[hollow axle]

Order a different cable, cat6 is plenty fine. The extension could be causing problems

Or the cat7 could be causing an issue

Cat6 is good to 100 meters

[pastel lodge]

What if I try with Cat 6A?

[hollow axle]

Why do you want to waste money?

[pastel lodge]

I don't want to waste, but I need the maximum performance that I just bought.

[hollow axle]

You are talking about 600mbps, not 10gb

[pastel lodge]

I mean, i want the full 600Mbp/s

But sometimes i think that I just have like 100 or 120mbps, so it's like i'm wasting my money with a service

The service that has 600mbps when i'm receiving 100 or 120

So I pay like 50/60€ each month.. So i'm wasting my money truly faster

[hollow axle]

Cat6 can run 10gig to 50meters.

You are talking about spending 2x the cost for a stiff ugly cable

Cat7 is a shielding cable that sometimes doesn't always seat properly in sockets. Using an extension doesn't help either

[clear igloo]

Cat7 requires TERA connectors to be "in spec" but should be avoided anyway as you mentioned already

[crude escarp]

i'm so tempted to get this- yall think it's worth it

[pseudo blade]

Depends on your setup and needs

There are scenarios that could be used for that you could get something cheaper for

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo

[pseudo blade]

Free shipping on a UPS, eh?

[rocky badge]

Probably included in the product price

[pseudo blade]

Can't be cheap considering their stupid weight

[clear igloo]

That's not bad, someone's either selling at a loss or has super cheap shipping rates

[rocky badge]

Bought it lol

[clear igloo]

lol

[rocky badge]

it went through on paypal tho

[pseudo blade]

I'm surprised lithium ion isn't more common just considering the cost of shipping SLA's repeatedly

[rocky badge]

My university post office is gonna kill me

[plucky pollen]

I have Cat7 cable with a normal 8P8C connector and it works perfectly fine. Isn't Cat7 literally just a better version of Cat6? And it doesn't seem that expensive. I highly doubt that this is an issue with the cable, unless it's improperly built. Ive literally used these coiled up and they still work perfectly fine. It's probably a problem with the ISP or maybe the wiring in / into the house.

[clear igloo]

Not really no, Cat7 never got TIA/EIA certified so the only spec it lives under is ISO which calls for TERA connectors. It can use 8p8c but isn't "in spec"
Cat7 offers no real advantage aside MAYBE some shielding over Cat6a

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo if my parents ask me about the UPS I'm gonna say "work was upgrading their UPSes and bossman sold me this for cheap"

[bright sedge]

asking for a friend but what would be better;
an AX11000 router or a 2 pack mesh Deco x95 (ax7800)

[pallid dome]

Yeah I don’t care about the TTL since I’m using VPN so that won’t even be visible

[pallid dome]

I heard if I change the MAC it’ll look just like any other client like a phone or other appliance

Depending on the MAC ofc