networking

[deft jungle]

Is there any advantage of using a punchdown patch panel over an inline (coupler-style) panel?

[peak cloak]

cost and ease of punchdown?

[deft jungle]

I would think inline would be much easier.

[clear igloo]

inline you have to terminate to RJ45 ends first, punchdown is direct so depending on how easy you view terminating cables punchdown is usually better

If you're going gear in rack to patch panel though then coupler style is better imo but if you're terminating the connections then punchdown all day

[peak cloak]

inline punchdown?

[full monolith]

But this are not real life speeds you can expect to get... If youre not far away from the base station it will be ok but never the full 450mbps

[kind pivot]

Yeah but I hope to at least get what starlink gives me

[full monolith]

whats the max or avg. you get?

[kind pivot]

I'll get the starlink tomorrow or the day after so I don't know exactly but someones that lives less than 30km away gets between 100 and 250

[full monolith]

okay so it will prob be the same or nearly the same for you

but that should work with a 450mbps link speed

[kind pivot]

Okay nice

[hard arch]

how mutch storage will i need for pfsence/opnsence

[rocky badge]

not standard WiFi protocol

[kind pivot]

That is the goal

I guess lol

[rocky badge]

?

[kind pivot]

Yeah I'll need an access point after this thing

But to cross the street I need this thing (x2) with it's proprietary directionnal wireless protocol

Because standard wifi can't do those kind of bridges/point to point thingies for long range comm

[hard arch]

well i have 2gb lol

fujitsu s920

ye

or an msata

only wanna make my own router coz the fiber ont i got has a 2.5gbps ethernet port on it and routers only have 1gbps
im not going to get 2.5gbps internet but can be nice if i ever do

[kind pivot]

Ubiquiti u6 lite Access point for 90€ seems like one of the best ap for the price and less budget would mean garbage stuff no ?

[hard arch]

do also need to find a wifi card to put into this thing got a few apple wifi card about could adapt to a mini pcie easly enught

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak @meager ginkgo

[radiant vale]

Any recommendations on a 8port PoE switch for around £100

[meager ginkgo]

Unmanaged or Managed? (Do you need advanced features on it, or just plug and play)

[radiant vale]

plug+play

[meager ginkgo]

Anything that has 8 ports and PoE (and appropriate amount of wattage you require) should work then 🙂

Make you sure you check what version of PoE you need

some stuff needs PoE+

[radiant vale]

Awesome, I tend to me wary of the "Recommended" on Amazon

[meager ginkgo]

If it’s unmanaged there should be no issues

those are dead simple to use, you just plug in the cables and the ports light up

may I ask what you’re powering?

Stuff like cameras you’re going to want to set up VLANs to make sure they’re secure, (also requiring a managed switch)

[radiant vale]

Some minipcs, like RPi

[meager ginkgo]

Ah all good then

any unmanaged switch will work

[radiant vale]

Good to hear, thank you for the help

[meager ginkgo]

👍

[waxen scroll]

ask lurick about migrations and VPCs

[clear igloo]

works in the lab 😛

[rocky badge]

lol

I got it working

[keen mauve]

Okay so, I'm having a slight issue with DNS. I made a server in OCI with their always free tier, installed Docker and Portainer, and am now running Nextcloud with Digital Ocean Spaces as the storage. It's working whenever I use the public IP of the instance, but mapping a domain to the instance through Cloudflare doesn't allow traffic at all.

[keen mauve]

Same issue for DNS only and proxied

Yeah

On mobile right now

It's OCI and I allowed 80 and 443 through

[peak cloak]

did you do so in the VM also?

[keen mauve]

Nope

[keen mauve]

I mean it works via ip

[peak cloak]

ah ok

[keen mauve]

I could allow it through on a separate domain to check

[peak cloak]

what software are you running?

any proxy like traefik?

[peak cloak]

do DNS only and show error

it may take a couple minutes to propagate, but it should show a different error

[keen mauve]

NSURLErrorDomain

[peak cloak]

screenshot?

never seen that before

[keen mauve]

Either FF of WebKit error

[peak cloak]

ah so yeah that's dns

do a dig/nslookup on your local machine for your domain

[keen mauve]

How do I get my DNS server to stay

On windows, it won't actually use the one I set

Like I have it set but still get my att device

[peak cloak]

that shouldn't matter, it will eventually resolve. It could be a caching thing

[peak cloak]

make sure you click on OK on settings

[keen mauve]

Wait it's working on my other domain

[keen mauve]

It was ipv6

[peak cloak]

that page shouldn't show if it's DNS only

iirc

[keen mauve]

Oh I think it's pihole caching it

I don't know how to flush pihole cache either

This is cloudflare

1.1.1.1 gives the same response as pihole, which is not the actual ip I have it set as

I guess I can wait for propogation

[peak cloak]

should be good within 5 minutes if directly going to cf

what's the TTL set at

[keen mauve]

auto

Wait I'm dumb

That is the public IP, not a cloudflare IP

YES IT'S WORKING

Yeah I mean it's Oracle so I doubt I'd have many issues but I agree

Yeah

I need to set up certbot now though

[lavish sail]

Does anyone have experience with PF sense routers and if so is 28 cores enough for multi gigabit with 128 gigs ram

[clear igloo]

8 cores and 16 GB of RAM is beyond overkill

[lavish sail]

Ohh I mean, do you think you’ll be good for 10 to 25 gig

[clear igloo]

8 cores is overkill for 10gig already

[lavish sail]

Ohh

That’s good I guess

[clear igloo]

16 would be more than enough for 25gig without question and you only need like 32GB of RAM max and that's assuming tons of connections

[lavish sail]

I’m also gonna be using it for multitasking as a san

[clear igloo]

to put it into perspective a 8 core/16 thread Xeon at 2.1GHz can do about 20Gbps with 10k firewall ACL entries

[lavish sail]

Ok I got two e5 2697 v3

Is that enough to do the raid with 2 Jbods 15x ssd

[clear igloo]

https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2021-07-10-linux-25gbit-internet-router-pc-build/
Found it

jbod doesn't need CPU resources

Like you could host your JBODs on a couple of i3s if you wanted without issue 🙂

[lavish sail]

Oh I heard you need a more powerful CPU for SSD configurations

[clear igloo]

OH, if you're doing tons of SSDs then you need CPUs not for performance but for PCIe lanes

[lavish sail]

Thanks

[kind pivot]

I think I have some sfp28 network card laying around, I should check if it's working someday ....

Oh well i don't find it anymore ...

[long scarab]

my school district gave me a gift

[deft jungle]

avidi cadivi

[long scarab]

noooo

[keen mauve]

Okay I'm figuring stuff out for this but I don't know how to define the private key and certificate

I have certbot set up for the keys

But it doesn't recognize them as files

[peak cloak]

what web server

[kind pivot]

I got my starlink sooooo glad

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/796286578031853568/1124018980915511368/Screenshot_2023-06-29-18-49-54-231_com.google.android.captiveportallogin.jpg?width=618&height=1373

I called my netword "thanks elon" lmao

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/796286578031853568/1124014873207115856/IMG_20230629_183328.jpg?width=1435&height=807

[edgy ingot]

So I have a pfsense host, then routing all dns requests through pi-hole, but I wanted to sey up a local dns resolution for different servers with ports. I have seen I need to do reverse proxy, and am starting to get out of my comfort zone a bit, also would love to open jellyfin to an extenal connection, but not sure how to do both of the things I want to accomplish. I am looking into Swag on docker and using duck dns, my ISP uses a static IP so it makes it easier, as well as setting rules in pfsense but I am missing some bits and pieces google has yet to put together for me. Anyone have suggestions?

Looks like im at an impass at the moment anyways, github is currently down

[knotty plover]

How do I convince my ADSL ISP that there shouldn't be any packet loss regardless of the server

When I call them, they say test from 8.8.8.8, or the game you play. that doesn't make sense, it should be fine in my VPN too.

or any other web server

[tepid steppe]

Not really. Your ISP provides you a connection to the internet by connecting their network to a few others (so for example a smaller ISP would "peer with" a few other bigger ISPs like Lumen, ATT and others to connect their customers to the rest of the internet and vice versa.

So the reason your ISP asks you to test with Google is because Google DNS has a good network, so it is fair to assume that if you have packet loss to Google, it is often the fault of your ISP.

But if you have a packet loss to your VPN, it can be the fault of your IPS, the VPN provider or a number of providers along the way. Your IPS does not gurantee this.

That is why companies will often rent dedicated ADSL circuits, fiber optic lines or use other technology to get guaranteed performance between their locations, to avoid any problems along the way.

[light yew]

any idea why the local ips (10.0.0.1, 172.16.0.1, 10.220.96.2) are so slow? is 30ms when it should be like <1ms from what i saw on my friends. And why that much timeouts? Is there a way to make it faster so it connects to the server with less latency?

[knotty plover]

Thanks so much for letting me know!

[tepid steppe]

Anytime

[tepid steppe]

Does 10.0.0.1 and others belong to you?
10.0.0.0 and 172.16. are not "local", more like "private" so they can not be routed on the internet. Most ISPs will start using public IPs from the first hop, but it is possible that your IPS is using private addressing in their network for a while.

Are you using the AWS region closest to you?

I wouldn't worry about timeouts, these can often be caused by network equipment set to not respond to traceroute (some see this as a security meassure). To meassure loss, just run ping to your destination.

[thick minnow]

Teaceroute typically defaults to UDP packets, which many firewalls block. Even when it uses ICMP again, lots of firewalls block that too. When testing TCP services, like http or https, I always use TCP traceroutes, which initially appear exactly the same as a client. On Linux the command “traceroute -T -p 80 host.domain” will usually be accepted and respond with all intervening hops.

[light yew]

no dosnt belong to me, so yeah they are private. Yes i think i am conected to the AWS region closest to me, but anyways i am more intersted on lowering the latency on the first half (until it gets to the ISP), because i cant do nothing with the second half, i think, i am not very experienced with networking and tracing

[peak cloak]

those private IPs can be the ISP

if your router IP is 192.168.1.1, those are likely ISP, unless you have a double-NAT situation

[tepid steppe]

Exactly. You should see the IP of your router / the device that connects to your IPS, anything beyond that is your ISP.
The 30ms on the second hop, if that is your IPS is not great

[light yew]

no i think i have only 1 nat

[light yew]

so i cant do nothing about it?

[peak cloak]

what equipment are you using

one common thing I see are people using own router in front of a modem/router combo unit

[light yew]

my router? Zyxel EX3301-T0

[peak cloak]

ah ok, that's a combo unit already

so yeah, nothing you can really do

given it's DSL, not really surprised

[light yew]

oh ok, thanks for the help anyways

[plucky pollen]

Can you just run two 1g connections between a pair of switches to get a total 2 gigabit throughput between them?

[pseudo blade]

If the switches are managed and implement that functionality you can configure that to happen, though with a few gotchas and caveats.
On an unmanaged switch you will instead create a loop, which will result in one of the two ports being disabled via STP if your switch isn't trash or a broadcast storm and network degradation or outage if not.

[plucky pollen]

so it's not that easy, I see

[hard arch]

new router time
just need to get a few more parts now coz it dident come with its gpu riser like the listing said

and maybe put 16gb ram into this thing coz i can

[sage crow]

Thats a lot of ram for a router

[hard arch]

ik

but if im going to do a custom router
may aswell overdo it

[hard arch]

tho what even would be point besides braging lol

[obtuse dragon]

It's called link aggregation and your switches would need to support it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_aggregation

[peak cloak]

Although iirc, link agg doesn't work for a single connection, it's just total throughout

[knotty plover]

is packet loss under 1% considered ok for online gaming?
Would you choose a 4G connection with ping 100ms and loss 0
or an ADSL with ping 70ms but 1-3% loss

I tried both and yet none of them feels Ok

[low pond]

4gee

[kind pivot]

Starlink

[hard arch]

now just gotta wait for the nic and riser to come

[hard arch]

do need to figure out where to drill some holes to mount some wifi anteani but that can be figured out later

[knotty plover]

Does it actually help or may not help and make things worse?

[pseudo blade]

For games I'd say probably not, it'd likely make things worse for no benefit

Everything listed bar video conferencing's quite low bandwidth but latency-sensitive

[deft quiver]

🛌

[ashen vigil]

Anyone know if there is any small Switches that has PoE in and PoE out?

[peak cloak]

yes

https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Gigabit-EdgeSmart-Wall-Mountable-TPE-521ES/dp/B07H28VLFZ

[ashen vigil]

hmm, dunno if we've got PoE+ tho..

[peak cloak]

I believe you need it because of higher power consumption

what's the use case you need it for

[ashen vigil]

I'm thinking of taking the connection to a Ubiquiti AP that has a PoE in, and use a switch so I can get a wired connection to my desktop.

And I need to carry that PoE signal to that AP again.

[peak cloak]

that are APs that have integrated switches

like this https://store.ui.com/us/en/collections/unifi-wifi-inwall-compact/products/uap-ac-iw

[ashen vigil]

true, but the AP is owned by the building, I'm just looking into hooking myself up with the least amount of cost.

[peak cloak]

I would not reccomend that

if they have any descent setup, it won't work

[ashen vigil]

It's just all Ubiquiti UniFi

[peak cloak]

well yes, that's hardware

but you don't know if they have any vlans setup

[ashen vigil]

Nha, it's a dorm building, so this is only for AP's all over.

[peak cloak]

are there really no ethernet?

[peak cloak]

My dorm has vlans to APs

[ashen vigil]

the AP is right outside of my door with a cable coiled up, it's so tempting to just hook up to it 😛

There's one network for the whole complex, dunno if that tells you anything.

[peak cloak]

they may not be, but still eh, wouldn't recommend

[ashen vigil]

I live in building 25, and the network is named 19.

and worst case, just put it back in the loop?

the next option would be to get a desktop wifi antenna extender and just drag that across my room.

[kind pivot]

How does wifi mesh works seen by a user ? I mean I somewhat understand the technical, but for example it means that you don't connect to a specific AP but you see the whole network as one SSID ? Which is cool because you don't have to choose the right AP right ?

And if it's that, then if I take unifi AP, will they be able to make a mesh network out of the starlink router SSID ? I guess not, it has to be a ubiquiti router ?

[pseudo blade]

How are they seen by a user? A consumer mesh router? Generally they see a single network with one or more SSIDs, as one might if the APs were directly connected via a cable. From my understanding most act as a controller and will synchronise the wireless configs though that's not inherent to what a mesh is.

Your second assumption is therefore a bit funny because you're trying to connect two APs from different vendors in a repeater setup, which will not implement a mesh but rather turn your Unifi into a Bridge and an AP if it works.
I had a look online to see if Unifi supports this but unfortunately such questions seem to get answered poorly a lot. Some Ubiquiti routers support meshing with each other. There is a significant performance impact of doing so regardless of vendor if you do not have a dedicated radio for backhaul and only a few UniFi's have that and I can't find a pure client or guaranteed vendorless repeater mode referenced.

[kind pivot]

Yeah okay so that's probably not the best idea

[pseudo blade]

I mean I've said that before lol

[kind pivot]

Hum this time it's for my in house wifi not to get it accross the street

Accross the street I'll use those nanobeam ubiquiti bridge point to point wifi thingy

[pseudo blade]

Yeah most mesh ecosystems want you to buy 2-3 of their devices in a pack and they handle it

The starlink router actually has pretty mediocre WiFi built in by looks. They offer a mesh node offering I can't see without an account but frankly doing so with a 3x3 AC router with 1 5ghz radio sounds like it's going to suck

[kind pivot]

Yeah so I should disable / not use starlink wifi if I do this

... Or buy starlink mesh AP lmao

But as you said they seem expensive for not a whole lot of performance

[mortal solar]

what is the simplest way possible to share a disk from ubuntu to mac? i want to run backups without being physically connected to a drive,

[pseudo blade]

The router I got free with my VDSL connection 3 years ago is better than the Starlink one

[kind pivot]

NFS share / samba

[pseudo blade]

Set up NFS

[kind pivot]

Yeah not surprised
And the mesh node is 176€, pretty sure you can get super good node from other brand

Btw is ubiquiti that great ? I look at them a lot because it's easy to find stuff, but I don't know if it's that good
I look a lot at microtik too, seems like microtik is more for wired stuff and ubiquiti wireless stuff

[pseudo blade]

Mikrotik does tons of wireless stuff but is aimed more at ISP/WISP/Low-budget Enterprise, Ubiquiti's UniFi is focussed on its controller and prosumer/SME though time will tell.

Ubiquiti offers stuff in the WISP space too but it's distinct from their regular offering, whereas Mikrotik RouterOS hardware offers a big toolbox of bits you can use on basically any of their products regardless of the device's intent

Ubiquiti's more - "A UniFi AP is an AP, why would it have an OpenVPN tunnel terminating on it"

They have different markets basically

[kind pivot]

Okay yeah, so I'll probably like microtik more

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo https://twitter.com/cyberemc/status/1674875825391296515?s=46&t=7enP1jvhlan6YvW5BokvtQ

Imagine replacing a switch stack with individually uplinked switches

[clear igloo]

I don't have twitter, I can't see it

[clear igloo]

lol

Imagine not using d-link chassis switch 😛

[rocky badge]

And is there only one aggregation switch??

[clear igloo]

probably, who needs redundancy or anything

[meager vine]

anyone know server or this is one where somone can tell me best internet for my house im looking person who can tell me alot

[peak cloak]

starlink if you have nothing else

[meager vine]

good idea but my mom wont go with it

also to mention there about 20 devices in our house running most of the time

[blazing karma]

Old hardware but

Does anyone know if there’s anything that can be done with a dead switch? Other than just disposing it

Context: it’s a 48 port Poe gigabit I got for free that I plan to use but didn’t get the chance for, left it unplugged for a good few months, before this it takes a while to power up but it still works, but tried to power it up just a bit ago and think that the psu blew itself up, with sparks and lights coming out of the fan holes

And trying to power it up again seems like a fire hazard so it’s either salvaging whatever inside or just sending it for recycling or just disposing it straight

[plucky pollen]

maybe you could replace the psu?

you could sell it as parts only

[blazing karma]

Good idea but I think it’s quite an old model now tho

I can try to put it up but I’m in Asia and the used home lab market is kinda scarce

its a nortel aka avaya rebranded switch

[kind pivot]

Can't you adapt another psu to it ?

[blazing karma]

i think its pretty integrated

from what i can remember when i opened it back up back then when i tried to see if i can change the fan to noctuas

[meager vine]

How can I can get admin on this hap lite router doesn’t have gateway on it or the admins password it has som password but when I try putting in the user and pass it doesn’t work as admin is the regular user and password was on the router but it did ent work

Also the internet is like on but doesn’t show up

[opal pagoda]

take it apart and find out

[opal pagoda]

is it yours or is it isp property?

[meager vine]

probably isp

Idk rly it’s not on my name it’s on my aunts

[opal pagoda]

then call your isp to get it fixed

[meager vine]

that’s why I’m trying to do it bc its then off day I think and they won’t come. So

Also I’m hoping. To buy new internet hap lite is just old and this is my system right now and the internet connection is bad so I need to upgrade how can I this is how my roof looks and there is the system ( the satellite dish is not in front of there trees but still blocks quite bit of zone )

And I can’t ask my parents for starlink just they won’t

[peak cloak]

Nah, it's prob just your internet

Traditional satellite Internet sucks usually

[meager vine]

i need new one bc this one is from rly rly rly rly old

[meager vine]

but then i need idea that can work cuz im on countryside

quite far from the tower or what ever gives it thing

hap lite is decent but its so bad for games and stuff i cant get stable connection also if i do like som randome internet it only works when 1 person uses it but there 20+ devices in my house

[slender forum]

less go 5g

[blazing karma]

gotta love the charged capacitors thats probably gonna go boom

[plucky delta]

perhaps this isn't the most correct channel to ask, but I'm having massive headaches with truenas, which makes me even more confused, considering I've set up and used truenas previously without getting this stomped while just setting up the basics. Anyone with experience, i would appreciate if I could be given pointers in case I'm missing obvious things

[opal pagoda]

cant you get 4g net?

or get a starlink and call it a day

[plucky delta]

Not everyone can get starlink on a whim

[meager vine]

its 4g but shit i cant do shit on it ugh

[meager vine]

my mom can but she wont spend half grand on starlink xd

"this is good enough "

[plucky delta]

screw that noise

[meager vine]

whats allat mean i cant even do nothin on this shitty ahh wifi

also people say its 100 euros month but on website it says 60 euros what tf is it then

[plucky delta]

Starlink or the service you currently use?

[meager vine]

starlink

[plucky delta]

Its a shit service imo. And I hate the musk addicts that think he's the second coming of Christ

[meager vine]

i mean its better than 200 ping every game u play on this shit internet

[plucky delta]

Well.. I can't speak for your current service. All i know is that I am myself avoiding starlink as much as possible

[meager vine]

i live in middle of nowear and on good day i can get 10mbps 20 is maxxed 1 per year opportunity

[opal pagoda]

it was 100 but its price got dropped recently
also it depends if its already "congested", then they charge full amount

[clear kayak]

Anyone familiar with like networking internals for stuff that isnt just traditional TCP/IP? Am kinda curious about good approaches/algorithms to match response packets (over BTLE) with the requests that triggered them without having control over the "server"/being able to just add a sequence number or an "in response to" header

[pseudo blade]

What version of RouterOS is it running?
If it's intended for you to have full access it's trivial to reset or regain access but if it's ISP property for ISP use you should leave it be.

Considering it's a hAP lite it's probably intended as CPE because it's basically the cheapest possible option and difficult to update and maintain remotely

32MB RAM and 16MB flash with RouterOS...

You can't even do in-OS software updates on it sometimes because of how limited it is

Like if it's ISP property they're the most stingy and miserable ISP imaginable

[kind pivot]

I pay 50 per month and paid 300 for the kit

[flint rune]

Roam and home are different, roam costs more but has no location limitation. So you can take with you anywhere any time, but also comes with deprioritized traffic.

Home location is cheaper and meant to stay put, except for move requests. You used to be able to add on a roam extra charge for home version while traveling last I knew. While roaming its deprioritized but while at home address it’s normal.

Also roam can be pause / resume month to month easily in the app, so it’s setup to be useful for people who travel and don’t always need it. Roam pricing recently increased and is now too high for deprioritized traffic imo unless you really need it (I do and pay for it).

[plucky pollen]

bro its better than not having decent internet at all, thats the point of it

[sly lark]

Wtf do I do?

[sly lark]

Nvrmind I got it

[hazy peak]

Can someone help me

I want that friends can access to my minecraft server

If a want to connect to the public ip adress it doesn't work

I portforwarded the minecraft server but it still doesn't work

[peak cloak]

if you are connecting from the same network you port forwarded to it won't work without a feature in some routers called NAT loopback/hairpinning

have friends test it

or use https://mcsrvstat.us/

[hazy peak]

Bro I mean when I am not at home

[peak cloak]

just making sure

you have just one router?

[hazy peak]

no

[peak cloak]

well that could be an issue with double-NAT

router or just AP?

you have to tell me the IPs of your server, routers, for me to help

[hazy peak]

2 router

unifi dream router

[fiery roost]

did you setup the second router as an access point or bridge?

[hazy peak]

So my Unifi router is sending the signals to the devices

[hard arch]

ok so pf sence just keeps uninstalling itself every boot
insted of trying to figure out why
opnsence time

[vocal river]

i have a question to the network professionals in the room. how many spare unneeded mikrotiks do you have just lying around collecting dust? i've never really used them for any network deployment, but somehow I still have like three routerboards in my drawer at home

[peak cloak]

and?

[hazy peak]

ZTE 5G Cube

[peak cloak]

so I assume that's ISP provided

you either need to bridge that so unifi gets public IP

or port forward on both

[hazy peak]

It is in bridge mode

[peak cloak]

so it's not acting as a router, what's the first 2 octets for your WAN IP on the dream machine

[hazy peak]

The ZTE is the router which receives the signals from the internet provider and the Unifi dream router manages the traffic and send the signals to the devices

[opal pagoda]

if its just one friend you can link via tailscale

[hazy peak]

More

friends

[peak cloak]

what's the first 2 octets for your WAN IP on the dream machine

[hard arch]

anyone know how to set an asus dsl-ac88u to ap mode

[opal pagoda]

if you cant find "ap mode" you can disable dhcp and connect to lan port

[hard arch]

ye issues i dont have any lan ports left lol

[opal pagoda]

get a switch

[hard arch]

looking for a cheap 2.5gbps one

[opal pagoda]

also you can use rest of the lan ports on that router as more ports

[hard arch]

duel nat kinda becomeing a pain to deal with

the d7000 can do it
so can the r7000 i got
but the dsl-ac88u nope

[opal pagoda]

did you try this?

[hard arch]

ye thats for the rt-ac88u

not dsl-ac88u

operation mode option dont exsist

tbh im realy tempted to fix the bad flash on the r7000 and swap em round

let brother deal with dual nat for his ps4 and stuff lol

[meager vine]

im tyring to switch the box for som else but NOT starlink i need som ideas

[peak cloak]

the router itself won't help much

it's the connection between router and ISP, whatever you are using is not very great

I think you mentioned it's WISP

[pseudo blade]

Yeah most of your effort should be focussed on your PoE-powered dish outside, the hAP lite's good for 50mbps at least, pretty much regardless of what you're doing bar VPN.

The one thing the hAP can tell you is how much of your problem is other people in the house vs the uplink's performance

[sleek talon]

Does my internet speed affect the bandwidth between 2 devices connected with each other on the same wifi? For example my macbook and soundbar are connected to each other via airplay, by being on the same wifi network. Will getting a better internet plan increase the bandwidth between them and reduce the lag ?

[peak cloak]

no

[sleek talon]

Thank you so much

[peak cloak]

what could help is possibly a better router/AP with better wifi, or possibly even just changing channels depending on the radio environment

[sleek talon]

My isp does not allow using custom routers, so I'm planning to buy a range extender so that the 5ghz band is fully reachable around the house

[peak cloak]

I do not recommend wifi extenders, if possible run ethernet to a more central location and put an AP there. If that's not an option mesh systems are ok, as long as they have a dedicated backhaul radio

[sleek talon]

Thanks for the tip! Will try to research more about the mesh systems and find out a good one! Thanks again

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I'd use an AP, ignore them not allowing custom routers or use a double-NAT and put my own router/s behind it

Double-NAT is not ideal but tbh only rarely a problem

Technically my home network is a Triple-NAT

[slender forum]

i have a usb wifi adapter for my windows computer on the ground floor and my wifi is on first floor, i only get 7-8 mbps and the range is never full... does anyone know any tips or setting to to get better range

[pseudo blade]

Yep, run an Ethernet cable, use MoCA, get mesh routers, or use powerline ethernet. In that order.

Oh you could also consider getting a better WiFi adapter if your phone and the like perform better in the same location

A WiFi repeater at the halfway point is a cheap compromise to improve speeds though not one for great performance

[slender forum]

i dont think setting up an ethernet cable is possible here, but if i do buy a new adapter... how do i know if it has a better range than the one i currently own... is there anything bheind the box that tells about range

[slender forum]

and is there any setting you know within windows that i can try?

[pseudo blade]

I don't think software config changes will save you there, I'm afraid

[sleek talon]

Sorry for the noob question but I'm really new with all this stuff, could you please help me identify if this https://www.tp-link.com/in/home-networking/deco/deco-e4/ is a mesh router and if yes then is it good to reduce lag between devices connected on the local network (mac and soundbar)

[pseudo blade]

Hm. Well it certainly won't guarantee you reduced lag, that's going to depend on your house and the deficiencies of your current setup

How far's the soundbar and mac from your router?

Is the audio stuttering?

[pseudo blade]

A quick stare at the specs of that suggest that its hardware is poorly suited for a mesh - I hope it's very cheap at least

Only 1 5ghz radio

[sleek talon]

Just around 2-3 meters. There is a significant lag between the audio and the video when playing via airplay, the reason is that the airplay only works on 2.4 ghz band due to poor range of 5ghz band.

[pseudo blade]

2 or 3 meters from the router to everything?

[sleek talon]

Between mac and the soundbar, the router is more than 7-8 meters and there are closed doors in between

[pseudo blade]

And by lag you purely mean delay, not packet loss?

[sleek talon]

Delay

And some channels are also missing that's probably packet loss

[pseudo blade]

I reckon that's going to be software/firmware, not your WiFi signal

[sleek talon]

I did some Google search and the result was that 2.4 ghz wifi speed is not good enough to stream lossless audio in Dolby atmos format

[pseudo blade]

Nonsense

[alpine mango]

i was wondering becuse im going on a crusie and they charge over 100$ for internet is there a way to make a portable satilite for internet

[opal pagoda]

starlink

[pseudo blade]

It doesn't need more than a few megabits per second

[alpine mango]

how do i buy?

[opal pagoda]

i just checked and its pricy af
dont know if regular dish will work on sea, it might be "landlocked"

[sleek talon]

Ohh! Then I'm probably going for the wrong Target, I'll try to troubleshoot again with the assumption that the bandwidth is enough. Thank you for the guidance

[pseudo blade]

2.4ghz can trivially handle that and more, as long as it's not overly congested from neighbors

[alpine mango]

oof

[pseudo blade]

But if it was I'd expect choppy audio

Not delays

[sleek talon]

No other devices are connected to 2.4 ghz band

[pseudo blade]

Does it support Bluetooth?

[alpine mango]

i might buy buy internet on one device such as my laptop and make it a hotspot like sharing internet

[sleek talon]

Yes it supports bluetooth but the Bluetooth streaming doesn't support ALAC format

Bluetooth streaming works fine, no lag or chopiness

[pseudo blade]

Pro technique is to take a travel router with you, do NAT and split it with a few neighboring passengers :P

Just don't make a show of it if you do

[opal pagoda]

ultra pro would be to find a network jack and jack in

[alpine mango]

thanks

[pseudo blade]

Now now we wouldn't want to suggest accessing a computer network without permission

[pseudo blade]

I'd be looking for firmware updates, settings on the computer and speakers

[opal pagoda]

pro move would be to pack a tiny mini micro system with large hdd with media on it
and just make your own network

[sleek talon]

Both are on latest firmware and it works fine for other people with the same hardware and firmware, the only difference is that they are on 5ghz WiFi

[sleek talon]

Could you please give me a few keywords on what to search to get a third party router working with my isp?

[peak cloak]

to just get internet access, just can just plug router into ISP router and you will get internet access

[sleek talon]

From the lan port of the isp router to the ethernet port of the third party router?

[pseudo blade]

Uh sure - bridge mode, WAN MAC cloning, Double NAT

[alpine mango]

did i get good photos #off-topic message

[peak cloak]

yeah LAN to WAN, everything will work

[sleek talon]

Thank you soo much

[sleek talon]

Oh that's really easy! Thanks a lot for making it easy for me

[peak cloak]

you will have double-NAT but that shouldn't be too big of an issue since I don't think you'll be doing port forwarding or anything advanced

it's not optimal, but I don't think speed wise it really affects it much if anything

[pseudo blade]

Double NAT always works, Bridge mode is preferable, MAC Cloning is less likely to be necessary

I use a double-NAT myself

[sleek talon]

I don't do anything advanced like forwarding etc, but it won't affect my ping? I do alot of gaming online

[pseudo blade]

Oh not meaningfully

Tiny bit, like a fraction of a millisecond

[sleek talon]

Well, i found my solution then i guess, Thanks a lot to both of you

[lavish sail]

If I install a PC i.e. to nvme adapter in my Dell dl360 ninth GEN server will it work with opnsense as my boot drive

[hard arch]

been having trubble with wireguars not working with all clients i wanted
so
since most clients are internal i just let wg see it all
10/10 fix lol

[hard arch]

can sit in macdoanalds and piss off people at home now

[pseudo blade]

Not familiar with... ASUSwrt I think that is?

But I guess if you're fine with your config it's good

[hard arch]

find na

this asus router pile a shit

has no ap mode so have to deal with dual nat

so far not had issues with dual nat tho

just need to open port on router 1 to asus one then to wherever needs to go

[flint rune]

Anyone here try OPNSense, I been thinking about giving it a shot when I replace my pfsense firewalls aging hardware in the next year or so. No real big issues with pfsense, I mean UI is getting old and their DHCP server has a few annoying quirks, but just thinking about playing with something new for the next 5+ year build.

[hard arch]

been messing with it atm

seems to work better than pf
and it dont just nuke its own install when i reboot

[clear igloo]

My issue with OPNSense is Suricata, I had so many issues with getting it to work compared to pfsense with snort

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo just use a real router

I like how @rocky badge does it with a routing firewall

[safe vessel]

I thought that I would take a walk on the wild side and purchased a pack of the "passthrough" RJ45 from Amazon.

They don't like to snap into the ports at all.

maybe it is the brand

[peak cloak]

Did you crimp them properly

[safe vessel]

yeah, not sure what is going on. Going to get a dremel tool because it seems like they are just not going into the ports far enough.

I just ordered some of the old kind.

[peak cloak]

prob is

you have the right crimp tool where it cuts off the ends right?

[safe vessel]

maybe it is broke, it isn't cutting very flush

might as well order another crimp tool also

[peak cloak]

What I did before I got a proper crimper for passthrough was run a razor along it. Kinda hard to explain, but it worked well to cut off the ends

I don't use passthrough as much though as it's not really reccomended for poe

[safe vessel]

finally figured it out

the RJ45 was going too far into the crimper, I have to back it out some to let the teeth push down properly

I am trying to set up a rural studio and it has been a pain.

All of the connections are subpar, so I have to do a lot of bonding.

The two I know of are Speedify and Peplink's Speedfusion.

I wanted redundancy so I paid for the BR2 dual modem, even though Peplink's data cost is high.

Speedify is a flat rate, but it is Windows based, so I am having to setup VLANs for each ISP that is feeding into the BR2 router.

Now I need two more ethernet cards for both this machine and another.

[rocky badge]

Yes

[sacred garden]

Hello I have a question, the router 2.4ghz and 5ghz speeds has anything to do with the ethernet speed?
if router supports 1500 mhz, 500 on 2.4ghz and 1000 on 5.0 ghz how much will it support via a ethernet connection?

[swift tree]

ethernet speed (like the one over a cable) does not depend upon the wireless hardware in the router

[sacred garden]

it depends on the type of port? so a LAN port will be capped to 100 mbps regardless of wireless speeds and the 1000 mbps type is capped for 1000 mbps ? do I understand correctly ?

Thank you very much!

and 1 more question, is wifi 6 and dual band the same thing? I mean wifi 6 is both 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands right?

Thank you very much!

Thanks! will go and read rn

[long scarab]

I probably sound reallyyyy dumb right now, but I've run out of IP addresses on my main home router. What is the biggest subnet mask I can use for the most amount of IP addresses? Current IP for the router is 10.0.0.1 but can be changed

Is the router IP 1.0.0.1 and subnet mask 255.0.0.0 practical?
any device that connects remains static and idk why it won't let me change it

[carmine moss]

If you use 10.0.0.1 you can just use the 255.0.0.0 subnet it has to be 10.0.0.1 for 255.0.0.0

[long scarab]

why does it have to be 10.0.0.1?

[carmine moss]

It's one of the options in a LAN you can also use 192.168.x.x for a home as a 255.255.0.0

[long scarab]

Would 1.0.0.1 also work?

[carmine moss]

They are reserved for internal use those ranges 1.0.0.1 is in the public range which you wanted to use it's a DNS server from 1.1.1.1

That's not in the private internal range so no

[long scarab]

Soo, which is the first IP address in the private internal range?

[carmine moss]

Just used 10.0.0.1 with a 255.0.0.0 it's the biggest range you can use internal

[long scarab]

So I don't have to reassign IP addresses. Nice! tyyy
sorry for being dumb im tryna learn

[carmine moss]

Check a free ccna course as that should help you but yeah 10.0.0.1 is the biggest range only internal 255.0.0.0

[long scarab]

omw to networkchuck

[kind pivot]

Why are most router os on freebsd

[untold elbow]

FreeBSD network stack for a long time was the best out there. Linux has been catching up, arguably has caught up, but lots of FreeBSD loyalists still out there

The FreeBSD kernel is also very stable so you can easily get to years of uptime on a network device with no issues. You want those systems to be set and forget

Same reason FreeNAS was and TrueNAS is FreeBSD based 🙂

(CORE/enterprise at least)

[kind pivot]

Okay okay

[opal pagoda]

have you tried running this instead of speedify?
https://www.openmptcprouter.com/
it does require a vps doe

[pseudo blade]

Not sure it's really most, but some use FreeBSD because it has a more permissive source license that permits distribution of modified copies without sharing source code (closed source)

[mossy canopy]

It’s not closed source, it’s MIT license

[mossy canopy]

Subnet masks and CIDR notation if you’re looking to learn. DHCP with static leases can be your friend. The larger the subnet, the more IPs but also the larger the broadcast domain leading to a large amount of arp traffic/etc

Keep your layer 2 networks as small as feasible, and route (layer 3) between them.

[thick minnow]

can someone help me with my internet

i have good download but my upload is like 20 and my download is 600

[clear igloo]

That's normal unless you're on fiber which gives symmetrical upload

[frosty oyster]

thats not always true. you can look up your internet plan to see what you should get

[clear igloo]

Find me a DSL or Cable (coax) plan for residential that offers symmetrical upload/download

[frosty oyster]

in germany we have that

well not exactly symetrical but not 600 to 20

like 400 to 300 or something

[clear igloo]

because DOCSIS today is not designed for that and I know germany doesn't have DOCSIS 4 rolled out since the spec isn't out yet

[frosty oyster]

no it isnt

sorry im probably wrong but i still shouldnt be that extreme of a difference or should it

[clear igloo]

It 100% should be on DOCSIS (cable)

[frosty oyster]

okay

[clear igloo]

Most crappy DSL is different because you don't get much download to begin with

There are different versions of DSL though and later ones definitely offer better download and upload

[frosty oyster]

because i have like 100 to 60 and i thought i he has 600 download then he should get more upload as well

[clear igloo]

If he's in the states (which I suspect) then it's almost certainly DOCSIS which is where that kind of discrepancy is common

Comcast and Spectrum in the states offer gigabit download and hide their upload (it's 35Mbps)

[mossy canopy]

1200/200 here. It’s funny as the uplink can basically be saturated with ack traffic if you do manage to saturate the downstream

[frosty oyster]

wow

[mossy canopy]

And yea, in the states

[clear igloo]

It's because, currently, DOCSIS is like 90% spectrum for download and limited upload spectrum, that's changing with DOCSIS 4 or whatever the new revision is going to be called which will allow for more (although not necessarily symmetrical) upload

[frosty oyster]

and does this limitation apply on fibre?

[clear igloo]

Not inherently, no

[frosty oyster]

ok

[clear igloo]

Fiber, thankfully, is full duplex by default
Now your ISP can definitely rate limit you for upload and download

but fiber is so nice because that limitation doesn't exist except when applied artificially 😄

[frosty oyster]

XD

you can always apply for an industrial connection

[waxen scroll]

maybe if they shut off most of the useless cable channels

[clear igloo]

Hey now we need 5000 options for watching shopping channels 😄

[waxen scroll]

ATT fiber has been installing conduits around a large area for a while now and still seen nothing in terms of going into neighborhoods 😐

[clear igloo]

or just wait for a good rollout, lol
I have ATT fiber options up to 5Gig symmetrical available to me as a home user, lol

[clear igloo]

[frosty oyster]

wait dsl isnt the same as over coaxial is it

[clear igloo]

no, coax is that thick wire with a single pin sticking out of the middle

dsl is usually RJ11 (phone line)

[frosty oyster]

XD yeah i know

[waxen scroll]

I mean its technically similar 😛 its multiplexing

[frosty oyster]

but you said tv channels

[clear igloo]

Yah, same but different, lol

[long scarab]

annoying 4p4c connectors right

[frosty oyster]

in my area we only have dsl connections available even starlink is faster

[clear igloo]

yup

[waxen scroll]

we have 300mbit for $50 and ATT still wants to charge $50 for 25mbit DSL

[long scarab]

i get 50 down 8 ish up for $15/mo

[waxen scroll]

makes me wonder if anyone in the area is using telephone wire service anymore

[clear igloo]

They want those services to die, they basically let them rot

[waxen scroll]

they've been uncompetitive for a decade in this area

[clear igloo]

Push the old dsl and whatnot customers to 5G

[long scarab]

welp y'all have fun, my friends and i are gonna have a roman candle battle

[waxen scroll]

once that fiber goes in comcast is screwed

[clear igloo]

You don't want to pay comcrap $2000 to get fiber? 😄

[waxen scroll]

comcast says they can do fiber but ive never asked them to prove its available

with all the docsis improvements they probably wont ever have to use fiber. but at least theres a second competitor in the market for high speed

[clear igloo]

Yah, they have that option where they give you a Juniper SRX and some MetroE link

[sudden kayak]

yeah that is very much a business/pro service

it's not really intended to be for regular consumers unless you have very specific needs

[clear igloo]

Yah, there is a reason they charge a $2K deposit and I think $500/month even though they offer it to home users, lol

[sudden kayak]

only $300/m but yeah

it's more "here's a business fiber plan, but you can have it at home without jumping through hoops to get a business line if you really want it"

[copper aurora]

can someone recommed a quad port nic (2.5 Gbe prefered) that works with opnsense?

[pseudo blade]

Seems the way this is done cheaply at this time is by using 4 RTL8125B's direct to a x4 slot, which requires lane bifurcation support from your system.

Some of the 2 port ones include a tiny little 2-lane PCIe switch to avoid that problem.

[lyric stirrup]

I found 2 Apple time capsules in the dump and decided to replace my current wireless solution with them as they work much better. But I am having an odd issue where the second time capsule's (which is wirelessly connected to the first one) wired connection is much slower at roughly half the speed of the wireless connection. Any idea why this could be happening and how I could fix it. I tried a different ethernet cable too and got the same result.

[sonic notch]

Hey, I know that phones can act as hotspots using a Wi-Fi connection rather than mobile networks. I was wondering if there are any cheap routers/other type of equipment that do the same

i.e. connect to a WPA2 Enterprise network and use that instead of a WAN ethernet port

[opal pagoda]

my mirouter 4a can do that but idk if wpa2 enterprise is supported as i dont have stuff to test that

prolly not

[unreal plume]

Hello, I recently built a new battlestation for my little brother and I am having some problems with the asus wireless wifi adapter not showing up when its plugged in.
Was wondering if someone know's the fix for that. I have the recent drivers from rogs site and I keep getting the same pop up message "The following extensions are blocked "Extensions\PieExtension.INF" and I've looked through the properties on the extensions folder but could not find the security tab. heeeelp!

[plain steppe]

how is all

[flint rune]

The Intel ones, like x710, should work fine. At least they do on pfsense and typically Intel NICs have solid support in most platforms.

But they come at premium several hundred. There are some much cheaper Broadcom NICs, especially if you go used server parts route. But their support and number of VMQs, important for VMs, is a lot lower.

TL;DR Intel adapter if you don’t care about price, 2nd hand server parts like Broadcom on eBay and similar sites if your budget constrained.

[bleak merlin]

can someone explain this?

[analog sonnet]

anyone every try to backfeed networks into an xfinity access point/router

don’t know if it will work or not

[mossy canopy]

Firewall or similar blocking the websocket connection to the endpoint preventing it from publishing, thus 0 Mbps

[bleak merlin]

Can you dumb it down please

[mossy canopy]

Something stopped the test from uploading

So it couldn’t register the speed to report

[sonic notch]

Rip, one idea I had was buying some cheap device that could run Windows, add a decent Wi-Fi USB to it, then connect it to the WAN port on a router. Not sure how well that would work or how tedious setting up the software would be

[bleak merlin]

I think the test is accurate cus whenever I upload anything it’s slow asf

[opal pagoda]

this is menu in windows to share a network connection so software isnt too bad
also i would get a cheap router and configure it into ap mode over a wifi adapter in ap mode as those arent ment to be access points

[frigid pine]

Cisco Switch 1 (trunk port) ====== Mikrotik LHG1 (bridge mode) ------------- Mikrotik LHG2 (station wds mode) ======= Cisco Switch 2 (trunk port)

I am trying to make a wireless bridge that should act as a trunk link to extend connectivity from one site to another.

I am following this guide but not reaching anywhere.
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Wireless_VLAN_Trunk

I have similar config on both MTKs.

add ingress-filtering=no name=bridge1 protocol-mode=none vlan-filtering=yes
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] band=5ghz-onlyac channel-width=20/40/80mhz-XXXX country=india disabled=no frequency-mode=superchannel \
    mode=bridge radio-name=PMNFCC-BSJ ssid=PMNFCC-BSJ wds-default-bridge=bridge1 wds-mode=dynamic wireless-protocol=nv2
/interface wireless nstreme
set wlan1 enable-nstreme=yes framer-policy=best-fit
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik
/ip hotspot profile
set [ find default=yes ] html-directory=hotspot
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether1
add bridge=bridge1 interface=wlan1
/interface bridge vlan
add bridge=bridge1 tagged=ether1,wlan1 vlan-ids=5
add bridge=bridge1 tagged=ether1,wlan1 vlan-ids=8```

I do not want a management VLAN. Just want to take all VLAN traffic from one cisco Switch to the other.

[kind pivot]

I have so much difficulty knowing what to build for my incoming home lab
I'll need a nas, some servers like home assistant, password managers etc
And a place where I can try out things
I also want 10gig networking out of it

I absolutely don't know at all what to do. Taking cheap consumer grade stuff and multiple servers, one big fatass still consumer grade, put them in a rack or not, buy used old pro servers etc...

Looks like the most logical thing would be to just build a normal computer with a cheap but recent CPU and only one of them

[hollow marlin]

I assume they would install an SRX300 and if so, the first month would cover the hardware cost and all profits from then on

[sudden kayak]

i checked and it's actually only $1k install fee, but then another $20/m equipment rental fee for CPE (unclear what exactly you get currently)

[flint rune]

Well I think you first need to make a list of what you want to run/do. If it ends up being NAS + a few simple servers like the ones you listed imo I’d do 1 small build on a modern CPU. Everything you listed is super easy to run.

You can go with a hypervisor like ESXi or proxmox if you really plan to play a lot, if you just want to run those in the easiest way possible at home something like unRAID or TrueNAS Scale would work really well too which still gives you the ability to run VMs and containers.

[kind pivot]

Easiest isn't my goal, I have no problems using Linux. I just don't know what's the best way to go about it.
I'll probably install a bare Linux with the nas there and use qemu/docker/lxc for the rest

I'll probably make some federated social network nodes too, but I guess this also doesn't eat up a lot of ressources

And a music server, but same..

[flint rune]

Yeah it’s all super easy stuff, honestly so lightweight most of that could probably even run on some low power SoC boards. But assuming you want room to grow / play around more I’d prob go with something mid tier from Intel or AMD. If you plan to run Plex Intel with iGPU is often a good pick to get QuickSync for transcoding without a dedicated GPU. If you don’t care about that or will have a dedicated GPU than I’d just shop the best deal.

[torpid bluff]

Hmm I think she is dead

[copper aurora]

Thanks a lot!

[kind pivot]

Yeah okay
I3 gen 12 or 13 would be enough I guess

[flint rune]

The only pro I’d say to a i5 in those new gens is E cores if you are worried about power consumption, compared to running the P cores all the time. I think STH did a comparison and showed over 10% power usage decrease with E cores when mostly idle / background takes.

[kind pivot]

Oh yeah, I'd need to go gen 13 for that because the 12400f doesn't have e cores

[flint rune]

Yeah, which if power usage isn’t a concern then cost savings of 12th is probably better.

For me trying to mostly be solar powered I opted for the E cores since a lot of the time home box is idle / light workloads and using those E cores. Then it can hit the P cores when I’m actively doing stuff with it.

[kind pivot]

It's not just power though, having 4 more cores even if they are "E" is cool perf wise

[pseudo blade]

It's unlikely to be the cause of your issue but you should probably scrap nstreme - it's old, not very well supported and not implemented for their newer hardware. NV2 has so far been ignorable also, I found regular 802.11 works as well or better for most ptp scenarios anyways.

[pseudo blade]

Any Mikrotik with WiFi can act as a client and bridge WiFi networks and they start very cheap - but for WPA2 enterprise it may be more involved - follow along from here if that's of interest: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=184233
Else you could use something like a Raspberry Pi, authenticate it and set it up to bridge/NAT from the ethernet port

[frigid pine]

I am just keeping it as a backup. I have seen nstreme work better in some scenarios and gives much better BW. But anyways my issue doesn't resolve by removing nstreme so it's least of my worries as of now.

[knotty plover]

PC to PC file sharing, 1Gb/s Ports, a router in between, could the router be the reason to not hit 1Gb/s?

I'ma do bonding by multiple PCI-E LANs between both PCs to see what will happen

[opal pagoda]

my recommendation:
get a single pc with deaccent hardware capabilities
run proxmox on it and then use vm-s for your nas and other home server stuff

[knotty plover]

Couldn't make it work so far

it still goes up to 1Gb/s in file sharing

[mossy canopy]

It’s impossible to saturate a 1Gbps line with a single TCP session due to ack traffic

[knotty plover]

Oh, I didn't understand anything TBH, is there any tutorial about this?

so far it only goes 1Gb/s

[mossy canopy]

And bonding can’t use more than one MAC unless you’re doing LACP

[knotty plover]

I also saw this, which says it's almost not possible?

Do you know any better ways over network for file sharing between 2 PCs?

I wanna have at least 2-3Gb/s

My main PC has a 2.5Gb/s LAN port, Maybe I just get another port like that for the second PC

that seems the only way

[peak cloak]

see yeah that doesn't work for a single connection such as file transfer

[peak cloak]

yeah

[knotty plover]

Yeah, I need to get a 2.5Gb/s Port for the second PC

then it works

All these 1Gb/s ports are useless now

[drowsy fossil]

there are file copy protocols that run faster over lacp including SMB direct

[knotty plover]

Can you recommend me one so I search for it?
I was thinking about if that's possible to use USB 3.2 Port for that, 20Gb/s

but windows doesn't have such thing right?

[drowsy fossil]

uh
😬

definetly want pcie

if you are spending that sort of money, get a 40gbit nic
connectx-3

and smb direct is windows native, but is super expensive (needs windows workstation edition)
so it works best on linux because thanks microsoft

[knotty plover]

40 is more than I need haha, I wanna go with this

[drowsy fossil]

you can get 2 dual port 40g adapters + cables for under 100 from ebay

[peak cloak]

fiber/dac tho

[drowsy fossil]

makes for cheaper switches 🤷

[jovial cipher]

Hi guys I have an issue with my pc. My pc was connected to a surge protector which was connected to an outlet. The outlet tripped but because I have an apu it stayed on and let me shut down. After I was able to turn on my pc wifi would say connected but it would not work. Got an error saying “remote device refused connection”

Nothing in my pc seems shorted or messed up and everything is working as usual but now I don’t see any wifi settings and even with Ethernet connected going to a website and running windows network troubleshooting shows error “remote device is refusing connection”

[opal pagoda]

you had power surge
replace the wifi card cuz its broken

[jovial cipher]

Found the issue I think

Weirdly proxy was turned on

[opal pagoda]

also replace the surge protector
when it trips it looses effectivness

[jovial cipher]

Don’t know how but I got it working

Okay yeah will change the surge protector

Can settings like proxy just randomly be turned on?

Because my pc prior to that shut down was working, then I was messing with all the settings and saw proxy was setup. Turning that off allowed my Ethernet to finally work

[sage magnet]

I am moving across the state for grad school. I drove back this morning to get another load of stuff and the CenturyLink installer came while I was gone.
When I looked before, only CenturyLink said they covered my area, although at first they said they offered 940 mbps, but then they said only 140 mbps.
First Cox wasn't available, but now it says it is, although the price increased the second time they asked for my address.
Tmobile is not available.
Mom was home and asked me all kinds of questions that I did not know how to answer.
I know very little about DSL.
Mom said the installer said they need to dig a big hole into the neighbor's hedge to access the phone box and I wondered what previous tenants had.
Maybe Cox.
She said that without tearing into the hedge we only have "Half-power DSL," and full-power DSL does not sound fast.

[peak cloak]

DSL in general is not good

you want cable (aka coax or DOCISS)

[sage magnet]

That's what I thought!

[peak cloak]

or better yet fiber

this map isn't 100% accurate, but you can check https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home

looks like they updated it recently

[analog sonnet]

I have xfinity network to my house (not fiber) and it runs into their ap/router...it has 4 rj45 ports on the back of it...would I be able to backfeed other networks through that ap? or are those ports used for 'outputs?'. If not ill be buying a new ap.

[peak cloak]

wdym by backfeed

[analog sonnet]

I guess not really backfeed, normally plug I network into it and it broadcasts it

[peak cloak]

those ports are just network access, so yes you can just plug an AP into there

PC, any other network device

[analog sonnet]

no, like use it as an ap

[peak cloak]

aren't you already using it as a wireless router?

[analog sonnet]

like if I plug a network into it....
im programming a home control system and my control processor needs to be on the network, if I plug that processor into the router will it work? or do I need a normal ap

needs to be on the network in order for my phone to connect to it

[peak cloak]

I'm confused what you are trying to do, a network is bidirectional. If you plug a device into a router and it broadcasts broadcast packets those will go to the rest of the network

[analog sonnet]

Right, what im wondering if I plug it into the xfinity router will it broadcast the packets?

[peak cloak]

as long as something is on the same L2 network, you have unlimited conectivity

[peak cloak]

yes, if you are running a web server for control that will be acessible on the whole network

[analog sonnet]

Im worried that because its not just an access point, its xfinitys special home router if it wont let me broadcast packets

thats what im getting at lol

[peak cloak]

I would reccomend you learn a bit about networking to understand this

[peak cloak]

if it didn't stuff like google cast or apple tv steam wouldn't work

amoung many other device features

[analog sonnet]

I understand networking, but Im unknowing about if the xfinity device will allow it or if I need to buy an ap

[peak cloak]

an access point isn't anything special either and that wouldn't have extra ports usually

[analog sonnet]

yes, but this xfinity thing is special...thats why I was affraid it would not work. But it sounds like it will

[peak cloak]

any ISP router is just a basic L2 network

[sage magnet]

Thank you for that map. When I searched for providers I found sites I didn't know listing companies.
The FCC says "No location data" for fixed broadband and that Verizon and Tmobile have 35/3 mobile, but neither carrier says that 5g is available at my house.

[peak cloak]

Internet -> NAT -> Switch -> Wifi and Ethernet

[analog sonnet]

so the xfinity device is essentially a NAT, Switch, and Wifi?

[peak cloak]

Router, switch and AP

that's your generic router

some also have modem integrated

[analog sonnet]

this has a modem integrated into it

thank you, sorry I word things in a confusing way

[peak cloak]

yeah, I call those all in ones

[peak cloak]

that sucks, if CenturyLink or Cox is only DSL and no cable, I would possibly look at starlink if that's within budget

[sage magnet]

Not for a student! 😄

[sage magnet]

I think that I was kicked out of another channel. I asked about my DSL issue, eventually received a partial answer, and then two people asked for help, but nobody else responded, so I informed them that I sadly didn't know anything about it.
Apparently a mod said "You aren't as funny as you think you are."
One of the people who asked a question responded "I don't think even he thinks he is funny."
Then all of a sudden I was looking at an error message.
The channel disappeared from my list and when I try to join it nothing happens.

[kind pivot]

which channel

[kind pivot]

So apparently we can't open up ports with starlink router and we even can't with 3rd party routers if we are on ipv4, but we can with v6
If i go to myip.com and see an ipv6 it means i'll be able to open ports with a 3rd party router ?

[peak cloak]

Starlink is cgnat iirc

Did they roll out v6?

[kind pivot]

They did apparently yes

If I see an ipv6 on myip.com I guess they did

[hearty crater]

Hey, I'm new to networking and I want to learn networking in order to pen test

What course/material do you guys suggest that I can finish in a month to grasp basic networking?

[pseudo blade]

I'm not sure "basic networking" is really sufficient for achieving your goal competently but OK

@hearty crater maybe look at this? https://www.netacad.com/node/1278

[hearty crater]

OK, then what course/material world you recommend? Please recommend something fast paced cause the major prob I have with courses is that they're too slow.

[pseudo blade]

Well I just linked you something to start with

[hearty crater]

Gg thanks

[pseudo blade]

It might help you to know where further to go on that subject, but you definitely want to understand OSI Layer 2, 3, 4 and as many layer 7 protocols as you can because obscurity often means insecurity, enough router and switch management to be able to use one to manage or redirect traffic, common vendors, firewalling and intrusion detection+prevention...

And more besides, server admin and (mis)configuration experience and its impacts is also highly relevant

The impacts of physical access, wireless technologies and their vulnerabilities... VLANs, subnetworks and routing tables...

A tad tricky for most to get down pat in a month even if your typical classroom environment is too slow :P

[hearty crater]

Fair enough

I'll do it in 6 months in that case

Tysm tho! :)

[kind pivot]

Before doing any real pentesting you need to almost (to not say absolutely honestly) be an expert on each subject that will be a wall to your path when pentesting ... so yeah..

Maybe not an expert ok, but at least quite good

[pseudo blade]

To be competent you need to be an expert

If you'd rather just run a tool and then present the results as your pentest you barely need to know what a subnet is :P

[kind pivot]

Yeah, but just running some tools, doing clean reports and good counseling, knowing about the "meta" around cybersecurity is enough to make money with it

But real pentesting ? Heck no
I'm pretty sure pentesting is amongst the hardest things to do in IT

[uncut hound]

[...] can be punished by fine or imprisonment under 18 U.S.C. § 1001.
I know that they rather not people lie and skew results but tf what

[plucky pollen]

wait why

as long as it can supply the speed that u need

and it seems to have generally higher upload speeds than cable from my experience

[drowsy fossil]

that is highly location dependent, with dsl, things slow down very significantly the further you are from the isp's office.
you also get a speed penalty the more users who are using dsl in your area

[plucky pollen]

well I said as long as it can supply the speed

[drowsy fossil]

the problem is that dsl usually cant

[plucky pollen]

like a 100 mbps dsl wouldnt be worse than a 100 mbps cable

[drowsy fossil]

well yes

dsl has more interference between upload and download

[peak cloak]

100mbps dsl is rare to come by

[drowsy fossil]

so if you have 100/100 service from both, if you have 3 devices, 2 just sitting idle and doing background tasks, the cable is gonna speedtest in the 97-99 range where the dsl will speedtest in the 70s to 80s

from the 3rd device that is

[peak cloak]

usually it's 20 or lower

[plucky pollen]

not here in germany (vdsl2 specifically in my case)

[drowsy fossil]

nah its rare everywhere

you just happen to live really really really close to an exchange

[peak cloak]

well germany is also pushing everything out of their existing networks

[plucky pollen]

yeah

[peak cloak]

here in the US, everyone is moving to cable and now fiber

[plucky pollen]

maybe its different in very rural areas but usually here u can get decent speeds with dsl

[peak cloak]

both of the two ISPs serving my area are now fiber

[drowsy fossil]

1000 feet
thats the maximum distance for vdsl2 to acheive 50mbps

[plucky pollen]

my isp offers 250 mbps vdsl2 at my house

tho im currently on 100

[drowsy fossil]

thats vdsl2+

[plucky pollen]

yeah

[drowsy fossil]

vdsl2+ can acheive a maximum of 300mbps

and it often can reach less than 100 meters from the exchange

if you are that close, cable can reach single subscriber speeds of over 10gbps/1gbps

where vdsl2+ is 300/100 max

[plucky pollen]

i dont have any cable tho lol

or at least not any faster than that

[drowsy fossil]

sure but if you isp installed it, it could be that fast

[plucky pollen]

yeah ik cable can reach higher speeds

im tryna make my parents switch to gigabit cable in their home, they currently have a 100 mbps

[drowsy fossil]

there are less than 10 vdsl2+ networks in the world btw

[plucky pollen]

Germany is unfortunately pretty slow with fibre

[plucky pollen]

what exactly is a network in this context

[drowsy fossil]

individual isps

[plucky pollen]

ive actually seen plenty of boxes with smth like "bringing fibre to you" around my neighbourhood so hopefully it is actually coming to this house too

[drowsy fossil]

in the us, only centurylink is using vdsl2+, and they dont even offer single service over 150mbps apparently

[plucky pollen]

It seems like the infrastructure around dsl is just very different

[drowsy fossil]

it relies on existing infrastructure

and in the us, our phone lines were run over a century ago on average

[plucky pollen]

there is actually a coax connection in my room it seems, but my isp isnt offering cable internet here

[icy quest]

A lot don’t anymore as it’s pretty old now

DSL is pretty old even with a decent amount of people using it

[drowsy fossil]

probably serving a bunch of folks in the area already and they would need to install a new box and they dont want to do that when fiber is an option

[icy quest]

Exactly

It’s more effective to just simply stick with DSL

[drowsy fossil]

but at my current address
the fastest cable available is 1g/50m
the fastest dsl is advertised as 5m/2m, but when we had it it was 2.5m/0.8m
and there is 5g/5g fiber available

[plucky pollen]

according to my isp, 100 mbps dsl is even available at my grandparent's home btw, which is pretty rural

[drowsy fossil]

yes but what speed is it actually

[plucky pollen]

at least my 100 mbps dsl plan does reach the advertised speed and even above

[peak cloak]

tbf, most people already used centerlized DNS

it just changes the transport layer

[drowsy fossil]

sure but reaching that speed will highly depend on location
again see my example
the isp isnt lying, but the cable quality means that practically the speed for me is what it is and theres no way for them to improve it

[plucky pollen]

yeah i cant speak for u, the situation might just be very different from how it is in germany

[drowsy fossil]

gotta remember north american population density even if you exclude rural areas are still alot lower

[plucky pollen]

yeah

[drowsy fossil]

the US loves suburbs and canada is mostly empty space

[plucky pollen]

yeah its probably a lot more rural then what we'd call rural

[drowsy fossil]

big thing tho is imo the network operators shouldnt be able to see traffic to devices they dont own in my opinion
if you own the device, you can make security policy on the device itself...

all of my company devices have network profiles for our enterprise's networks
end users cant change settings for them
and non company devices are blocked from accessing the enterprise networks.

but not the entire network is their property

[peak cloak]

residential ISPs mostly just connect users to Internet Exchanges

and other neighboring ISPs

[drowsy fossil]

in the us for example, a significant proportion of the network is public infrastructure and a significant part is owned by the end user

if you actually own the hardware, then you have permission to require a root cert for dpi

but isps dont and shouldnt be able to do that

but currently with regular dns they in fact do have that level of control

again
you personally are fully in the right with what you want, however bad actors are ruining everything for all of us

if it werent for the bad actors, we wouldnt even need https
noone would impersonate anyone else, and people would only look at traffic for devices they own

but thats not how it is

and everyone needs to operate a dns server otherwise lan comms and upnp devices will have trouble recognizing each other

[peak cloak]

I still kinda don't understand the argument

[drowsy fossil]

again tho the problem doh is working on solving is not people blocking it

[peak cloak]

Is it about liability? DNS blocking?

[drowsy fossil]

the problem is that with regular dns, requests can be falsified without the client being aware

we tried to fix it with dns authentication, but that also can be falsified

doh allows the client to cryptographically verify that they are receiving the response they asked for

even if the website you are trying to reach hasnt set up dnssec

[peak cloak]

Only if the server is trusted tho? As I understand the server can still provide a false result

[drowsy fossil]

oh sure

but you are also verifying that the server you asked for the info is the one providing it to you

"what they asked for" does not mean the answer is true, just what they asked for

[peak cloak]

Yeah

[drowsy fossil]

yea about half of the websites on the internet dont use dnssec last i looked it up

[peak cloak]

What's the issue exactly with dnssec

I heard some things, but didn't read much about it

[drowsy fossil]

if anyone isnt using it, then noone can rely on it

it also requires setup from every individual website

[peak cloak]

Found this on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9178783

danyork

HBO Now DNSSEC Misconfiguration Makes Site Unavailable from Comcast Networks

Hacker News · Mar 10, 2015, 4:51 PM

Comments are interesting

[drowsy fossil]

also it is relatively computationally and time intensive to do a full dnssec verification
it can be shortcut and only needs to be done once per website, but its still not as good as being able to do it once for your dns provider, then use https to make sure that your trust hasnt been lost since the connection started

[peak cloak]

The thing on how it's low level is a pretty good point, since the user has no insight into the error

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19239940

teddyh

ICANN Calls for DNSSEC for All Domains Following Domain Hijacking Attempts

Hacker News · Feb 24, 2019, 6:50 PM

[drowsy fossil]

in the past 100 dns requests made on my network, 1 reply supported dnssec

thats the problem
http is perfectly secure as long as people ignore anything that isnt meant for them
but the bad apples ruin the bunch

it puts a ton of work on a small number of people

btw the root authority system in general is "information tyranny"
dnssec relies on that infrastructure the same way that doh does

im not talking about you who is choosing to take on the task because they want to

im just talking about the people who will actually have no choice but to act

and im not saying that theres anything wrong with the root authority system, im just saying that its the same level of centralization if you go forced dnssec or if you go doh

lets take my boss for example
he has a family
but he also has the workload of 3-5 people piled on his plate because the company wont/cant pay enough to hire anyone

im not sure but i definetly know that cryptocurrency does not have the answer to that lol

if people were using it like it was originally intended, that wouldnt be a problem
but as always the bad actors are ruining the bunch

yep
but completely understandable doesnt mean i want it happening to me, thus we build systems to make it not happen again

i agree with cloudflare that zero trust is the only way

my boss is also trying to eventually lumber the company in that direction but it takes time

anything outside of the hardware you own is assumed insecure or compromised somehow

[edgy ingot]

does anyone have any experience with swag/nginx? I got the access to the default page at xxx.duckdns.org but cannot access jellyfin.xxx.duckdns.org, and I am at a total loss

[drowsy fossil]

practically tho its more "anything outside the hardware you own + the services you pay for"

disagree with both
you can already get to about that level with vpns and strict network policy
and everyday people understand trusted vs untrusted already
they dont need to understand the exact tech used, just that their account is what gives them access to it rather than "the vpn" or "the plug in the office"

[drowsy fossil]

in theory you make your own account but again see above

the companies i have placed my trust in are google for authentication and cloudflare for authorization

both can be replaced with foss alternatives but i dont have the patience

which means that you can move to zero trust by spinning up tbh just a http proxy and thats probably it?

[torpid robin]

Question for smart people, this doesn't exactly relate to networking but it does relate to POE. As of now I've used CISCO phones to setup my own sjp trunk for internal communications between me and my friends, I've switched to Avaya for a more modern feel, but for some reason my Avaya 9508 will not turn on with POE even though it has the POE ability. Does anyone have any answers to that?

[drowsy fossil]

passive vs active poe
check the version of poe the switch supports
if it only supports 24v poe, your active poe avayas who (probably) need 48v wont work

[torpid robin]

Alright, I'll try to see if I can find any info on my switches spec sheet

[rocky badge]

@hollow marlin My friend and I are stupid lol

We setup private BGP on our S2S VPN and we can announce routes to each other

[torpid robin]

From looking it up the switch has POE+

So would there be another issue?

[drowsy fossil]

thats strange
only thing i can think of is you are using the wrong port on the phone maybe???

wait thats not an ip phone

[torpid robin]

A 9508 is

It uses an SJP trunk

[drowsy fossil]

a what now?

a sip trunk?

[torpid robin]

Sorry typo on my end

[drowsy fossil]

basically any phone system supports a sip trunk
but that phone doesnt act like one on its own
it needs a box to do the conversion

[torpid robin]

I have the ip500 going into a switch

Which should theoreticlly work

[drowsy fossil]

yea thats presumeably the same setup that we have
what bays do you have in your ip office box?

also how did you get these
whoever you bought these from should have gotten basic functionality set up for you?

[torpid robin]

Ebay so you get what you get I have all the slots with whatever the phone module is called

[drowsy fossil]

but there are like a bunch of different of the modules

we have one module for our analog phones and another module that connects up to our switch rack

[torpid robin]

Ah that's probably what I need

I just directly go into the switch

[drowsy fossil]

wdym?

which module are you using to connect to the switch?

[torpid robin]

That's my issue I don'y know the exact name of it

It has 12 rj-45 inputs on the front

[drowsy fossil]

they have a label at the bottom left of the module

they all have 12 rj45s lmao well thats not exactly true but most of them do

[torpid robin]

It's a VCM

I'm honestly better off just taking it out and ordering a refurbed one as well as everything else I need

[drowsy fossil]

that should be all you need i think

i would pull up pics but im very much not at work now lol

[torpid robin]

Hmm, I'll take a look at it in the morning and try to see if I can figure it out

Right now I gotta program some radios lol

[plucky pollen]

https://youtu.be/S2U7nVq0ly0

are data caps actually a thing in America?

[drowsy fossil]

unfortunately yes

[plucky pollen]

damn

[torpid robin]

For me no but yes I have to pay an overage every terabyte

[plucky pollen]

I have never heard of it here in Europe

[torpid robin]

And for me I pass that quick

[plucky pollen]

like if u use more than 1 tb per month or per terabyte in general?

[torpid robin]

I mean I have to pay $400 for a 1gbps and for tv a month

[torpid robin]

Per month

[plucky pollen]

how

[torpid robin]

Exactky

[plucky pollen]

how is it that expensive

[torpid robin]

Comcast

That's how

I honestly want to switch to starlink lol

[plucky pollen]

why does anyone even pay that

thats ludicrous

[torpid robin]

Exactly but for gigabit it's what you have to do

[plucky pollen]

literally 10 times as much as gigabit here lol

[drowsy fossil]

yea and here at my home the normal price for symmetrical gigabit is $80 a month, but if you qualify for basically any afforable thing program its $50

[torpid robin]

It's not the internet

It's the cable

It's $80 but with all the tv boxes and remotes etc plus every channel

It's pricey

[plucky pollen]

why do you pay hundreds of dollars for tv channels

imagine if netflix cost like $300

[torpid robin]

I don't

My parents do

[drowsy fossil]

thats what they charge so if you want the content, thats what you pay

[rocky badge]

We have gigabit/500 for $65/mo here which isn't bad

but then we also pay $65/mo for YT TV

[torpid robin]

The other issue is that where I live they only offer 1 ISP

No verizon just comcast

[torpid robin]

HAHHAH I get 1200 and 35 upload

Worst ISP ever

I hate comcast

It's honestly cursed

[plucky pollen]

but the price is so high. I wouldnt pay for netflix if it was 100 bucks lol. I would probably pirate it instead if I absolutely had to watch it

[rocky badge]

I want my isp's 2 gig/1 gig option for $99/mo but its not worth it

[torpid robin]

You guys are so lucky

I'm stuck with the crappiest speeds

[drowsy fossil]

if you wanted access to the thing on it and you could afford it, you would pay for it
and its not like netflix, they have actually exclusive content that is frequently live and currently relevant

[rocky badge]

I want my parents to ditch our ISP's voice offerings and let me just setup VOIP lol

[plucky pollen]

if you wanted access to the thing on it and you could afford it, you would pay for it
no, there is a limit where something is just too expensive. I would assume people dont just buy ridiculously overpriced things even if they would still be able to afford rent.

[rocky badge]

but fuck 3CX with the bullshit lol

[drowsy fossil]

theres a difference between "have the money for" and "can afford"
and theres a difference between "would like to have" and "want"

[torpid robin]

3cx is dumb just use freepbx and run a server

Completely free just need a provider which isn't that much

[rocky badge]

$65/mo internet then phone bs

[torpid robin]

https://www.freepbx.org

Put that on a VM

There's lots of info on setup

[rocky badge]

I'm not gonna put it on a VM

[torpid robin]

Or deticated hardware

You do you

[rocky badge]

If I setup a PBX at home I am going to do it on a dedicated server so I don't have to worry about prod/lab

[torpid robin]

Free PBX is great

It's it's own ISO image and you just connect via ip on a seperate pc

I run mine on a PI lol

[rocky badge]

tbh I just want to redo all of my servers and get larger UPSes

[torpid robin]

I need a rack but I don't want to spend a fortune at the same time

[rocky badge]

go a more modern platform, get at least 3 identical systems

[torpid robin]

I also want to setup a NAS

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255914636544?hash=item3b95b37500:g:FPoAAOSwdwBjmyP~

Was looking at one of these

[rocky badge]

this is the networking portion of my rack

the servers are just r620 and dl360pg8

[torpid robin]

That's hot

[rocky badge]

I'd really love a R730 or R740

[torpid robin]

I have an 8 port POE switch that my monitor sits on lol

HP though

Some real ewaste

[kind pivot]

Wait wat

And wtf you don't have unlimited data 😮

In France for 40-50€/month you get unlimited 10Gb/s connexion
And the router given by the ISP has fsp+ out, can install VMs, do docker containers, install 3 HDD and make a nas, has a lot of normal router features, has an oled display and a sleek look, everything powered through type C, you can also have a "wifi repeater" for free that has RJ45 out too

[kind pivot]

Aren't those super noisy ?
I want to make a nas too but I don't really see the point of those sadly

I mean, sure you have 20 cores spread accros two CPUs
But that's like the performance of an i5 from nowadays while doing way more noise and huge power consumption
The advantage is pcie lanes number and the fact that it comes with 64GB of RAM and that it's somewhat cheap

But I'm not sure about buying a 10 year old server :/

[kind pivot]

Oh wow
I just had a starlink mail telling me the subscription will go down to 40€/month starting today

[pseudo blade]

Mind you in practice the effective limit is ~55mbps to this property and 100mbps is the max for most

[kind pivot]

That's the USA ??

[pseudo blade]

Some offer gigabit but it's still the damned 20/40/50mbps up

No, Australia

[kind pivot]

Oh okay

Wow I'm glad to be french for once lmao

[pseudo blade]

This is the symbol of the devil. You need know nothing more

To the point that Luke brought it up indirectly last WAN show

When mentioning Australia and Cloudflare

Cloudflare have opinions about them also https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-relative-cost-of-bandwidth-around-the-world/

[hard arch]

i would own one of the only wifi cards that opn sence dont work with lol

[kind pivot]

Wow that's insane @pseudo blade

[blazing willow]

can confirm, everyone has telstra because everyone else has telstra so they must be good

their service sucks and their customer support will leave you on hold for at least 8 hours

virtual isps that use telstra are actually infinetly better, cheaper, and have better support than telstra

[hard arch]

openreach in uk is a joke
took them 4 diffrent call outs and 5 hours
to figure out a cable had snaped and then another 2 weeks to replace it
its not even a long run from my house to cab its about 5m

not fiber just a dsl phone line

[blazing willow]

for telstra you can spend a month on and off calls to get through to someone because you've been charged for data you didnt request nor use

[hard arch]

this new isp i have
called up said line have very high ping and slow speeds
they came out same day and replaced a full fiber run in an hour

[blazing willow]

wow that actually really good compared to australia

[hard arch]

got to keep old run aswell lol

[blazing willow]

they'll come and change the perfectly fine lines to something that is probably actually slower and just more cost effective, and internet can be down for a week

[hard arch]

it was just a little nic in end of fiber

could have cut and respliced

[blazing willow]

gotta waste the budget somehow

[hard arch]

not that im moaning got a free gpon fiber cable lol

[pseudo blade]

For mobile definitely, though on the internet side they sell NBN co. obviously.
Same stupid problems and worse pricing honestly.

Maybe if NBN co wasn't redesigned to be as selfishly as possible for various reasons it wouldn't be so bad

[hard arch]

idk what ima do with the cable i doubt i can just get 2 cheap af ont off facebook and hook em together

[kind pivot]

Just go starlink at this point

[pseudo blade]

Funny story - the announcement that it would change from being a full fiber deployment to VDSL+reusing cable networks badly was done by a conservative PM from the offices of Fox Sports, Foxtel being the country's largest cable TV provider

Isn't that interesting?

[hard arch]

if that worked could just throw cable out a window and down side of house
screw my brother he dont needs full 1gbps for fortnite

[blazing willow]

the fact it wasnt the government should be an instant red flag

[pseudo blade]

They want $140 a month for a service with a dumb router they make you use makes it incredibly uncompelling.

[kind pivot]

Wtf it's 40€ where I am lmao

[blazing willow]

or you could setup parental controls that give a 1 hour play time

instantly more bandwidth

[pseudo blade]

I'd rather do semi-fixed 4G, which costs me $10/mo for ~100mbps

Via Telstra actually

Bundled with my phone for 190GB, $82 total

[kind pivot]

Just come live in France man

[pseudo blade]

lol

[kind pivot]

You'll have 10gbps unlimited for 50€ euro

[blazing willow]

u seen the new crime surveillance law they passed? id rather bad wifi

[hard arch]

dumb router
i introduse the skyq router
no modem mode
ipv6 will crash it
no dns settings
max 20 open ports at all
NORMAL temps accoring to isp is 100c - 120c
internal unshealed psu to help drop wifi like its linus
only 2 ethernet ports only capable of at max 300mbps

[pseudo blade]

I don't speak French and need work

[kind pivot]

I didn't

[blazing willow]

all ik is what they said on wan show

[kind pivot]

Didn't see the wan show

[hard arch]

the only good thing it has about it is the router will also act as a powerline adapter

not realy seen that from any other routers

[pseudo blade]

I'd ditch that

[hard arch]

i would if i could have

[blazing willow]

if ur a suspect of a crime that can be punished by at least 5 years in prison they can remotely activate camera, mic, gps location and possibly something else without you knowing for a maximum of 6 months provided that it is ruled ok by a judge and you're not a 'sensitive' profession like lawyers and some other things thats just the law makers getting around the law

from what i remember dont quote me

[hard arch]

it worked for a week with a d7000
then just never authentcated agein
no mac cloneing or anything got it to reconnect

[pseudo blade]

I wonder how that works with GDPR

[hard arch]

its a gov so very well

[kind pivot]

Never heard of that and I live in France

[blazing willow]

well thats concerning

i mean moreso than it already was

[hard arch]

privacy dont exsist no more stop trying

[pseudo blade]

Eh not always so, sounds like it needs challenging in court

Else order all your shit from outside the EU, run Linux

The CSI shit can screw right off, enhance and zoom the webcam all you like from somebody else's computer

[kind pivot]

I looked it up, there is a law project yes, it's not up and won't forcefully be accepted

However you know what I think ? At least they are honest about it

[hard arch]

if only that shit was real lol

[blazing willow]

definetly better than the us government with the restrict act

[hard arch]

be so usefull for old pics lol

[kind pivot]

Pretty sure every gov do it anyways, so them making it official doesn't change anything