networking

[drowsy fossil]

also it may be able to acheive that technically if you count the backhaul

[sage crow]

Typically I believe they do it that why to make make you think it's capable of those speeds on 1 device but in my experience they combine the bandwidth capabilities of all the bands and slap it in the advertisement

[drowsy fossil]

but yea my switch isnt 8 gigabit, its 1 gigabit with 8 ports lel

[nimble sable]

its worse than that, this assumes 4x4 160mhz on 5ghz

which is, basically impossible

my unifi device let me set DFS channels but this one straight up won't let me

and like iphones just won't SEE SSIDs on DFS

[drowsy fossil]

my grandparents can run 160mhz in their home practically a 5 minute drive from the nearest neighbor lel

[sage crow]

I have a netgear nighthawk that advertises 7.2gbps but is only capable of 867 mbps on the 2.4 band 1 gig+ on the 5ghz band and the rest is through the 60ghz thing

but i think that's used for sending wifi a long way in 1 direction typically

[nimble sable]

i'm curious, if you can test it out, if you have any devices that can recieve all the 160mhz

i've had trouble with some apple devices

[drowsy fossil]

i left it at 40 because it had the longest range, im pretty sure her iphone worked fine tho?

[sage crow]

I would assume it'd have to have a pretty nice wifi card and be very close to the router/AP

[drowsy fossil]

https://rog.asus.com/networking/rog-rapture-gt-axe16000-model/spec/
complete bs tho

[nimble sable]

quad band 10Gbe uplink though, dang

[drowsy fossil]

yep its specced out
but its very much incapable of 16gbit

[nimble sable]

OMG i didn't see that, LOL 16000

[sage crow]

yea looks like a max of a theoretical 4.8gbps

and that's likely in perfect conditions

[drowsy fossil]

nah you should be able to double that with multiple devices

it should just about max out the 10g port when going full blast to 3 devices

[nimble sable]

but ud have to have multiple devices that support 160mhz cchannels properly, AND are standing far enough apart to be sent to seperate channels

doable in a stadium, less so at home imo

[drowsy fossil]

vertical antennas means it shouldnt be a problem tho

[nimble sable]

wait really?

[sage crow]

theoretically, But like i said that's in perfect conditions. with a quad core processor and 2 gb of ram i still find it hard to believe

lets hope the router is running no other services

[drowsy fossil]

its probably mostly on the asic for basic switching

[sage crow]

Yea probably

Networking hardware manufacturers always find clever ways to get at consumers and make them spend too much money on mediocre hardware

For the price of that router you could buy a very powerful tower PC with a dual socket xeon setup and with a little knowledge of linux could make your own incredibly powerful home server

[drowsy fossil]

yea the square antennas that get used in those sorts of devices have signal in kinda a cone facing outwards
the normal antennas that are literally just antennas have signal in kinda a donut

[nimble sable]

aah

[sage crow]

Actually for much less tbh. Alot of the lenovo thinkcentres are more powerful then that. Just gotta add proprietary software, a switch and a access point

[drowsy fossil]

sure but the people getting this sort of thing prolly are getting multiple of them to mesh together

[sage crow]

True

[drowsy fossil]

and with that much wireless bandwidth, a wireless mesh would probably be a ok

also there are places that have 10g internet
technically theres 5g available near where i live

youd be hard pressed to find a combo unit that is capable of 5gbit on both wired and wireless in the same box

[sage crow]

Tbh I haven't had a consumer router in years. I've been using a lenovo thinkcentre m93p with a i7 4790k for like 5-6 years now and get anywhere from 4-5gbps with the 10gig nic i installed. Granted it takes a fair amount of knowledge but this is comparable to a $800 router lol

Well it would be capable of those speeds but my internet is not but with the processing capability I get my full internet speed through OpenVPN their isn't any affordable consumer routers that you can do that on

[drowsy fossil]

edgerouters, unifi, and the asuses probably are capable of that

[sage crow]

I have $70 in this thinkcentre lol

[nimble sable]

opnsense/pfsense is super easy to do, tbh. honestly if anyone asks me for router advice i'd tell them to do pfsense or opnsense + wifi AP

[sage crow]

I guarantee those routers are several hundred

[drowsy fossil]

you also have alot of time in that

it takes a decent bit of knowledge to set up pfsense, and you still need an ap

[sage crow]

You could also use pfsense its much easier then the route I took

I decided to use ubuntu server lol

[drowsy fossil]

i mean i was using windows server 2016 as a router/switch for a while lmao

[nimble sable]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-why-why-why-why-why-why-why-why-why-why-why-why-why-gif-25252239

[sage crow]

true but what I'm getting at is if you're in the process of upgrading and would like to learn a little it's much more wallet friendly to do it with older pc hardware

[sage crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078007757925523487.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[drowsy fossil]

turns out that was actually not that bad of a decision considering linux has poor support for vpi nics

[sage crow]

I've never had any issues luckily. The most difficult thing was securing the router

I just used iptables lol. Best part of using linux I guess

[drowsy fossil]

yea but you can never know if you did a good enough job until too late

[sage crow]

I run absolutely no services from my router so setting up the firewall with iptables wasn't too difficult

Oh I've done very vigorous testing on said router

That's the beauty of iptables I can block all outside traffic to said router and it only connects to me If i first establish a connection to it

[drowsy fossil]

and i use cloudflare tunnels for all my security lol
best practices went out the window so fast that the glass wasnt even installed yet

[sage crow]

haha

Yea now that I've learned how to properly config the router with linux I'd prefer it over pfsense or anything else tbh

Linux is pretty secure tbh if you dig deep enough into the kernel settings

And like I said with iptables. Everything that remains is covered

[nimble sable]

btw, how many of you here have 6e?

[drowsy fossil]

"trust me i got it" isnt good enough for our insurance

[sage crow]

😂

Yea I understand I've been doing this stuff for the past 8-9 years of my life though I'm pretty familiar with the internet

[drowsy fossil]

at home i have good ol base-t and ac for only the needed smart home stuff
yes i use my phone on ethernet with a usb c dock
at work im deploying wifi 6 non e

[sage crow]

wottt

never heard of anyone using wired phone connection lol

[drowsy fossil]

😛

[sage crow]

If it's an iphone they have very sufficient wifi cards

[drowsy fossil]

if its an iphone it cant get more than 480mbps of data though its charging port lmao

its not an iphone obviously bc usb c

at least as far as you know

[sage crow]

Idk

I just saw wired phone connection didn't pay attention to the rest

[drowsy fossil]

the wifi signal is quite poor in my room, and i havent really needed to do anything about it bc dock

Dex is really awesome, i use my phone basically like a desktop computer when at home

[nimble sable]

what is 802.11h and do i need it?

[thick minnow]

i have no idea what's happening, but i've lost all access to all devices on my local network besides the two android tv devices and the router

those are the only ones that i can reach, all the rest just time out

if i try access this local pc from another pc on the network, it doesn't work

the router is an AX58U

i know the service in question is working (Jellyfin)

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak @hollow marlin imagine your entire internet service provider, globally, going down because a ground station certificate expired

[hollow marlin]

Assuming this was RPKI related?

[rocky badge]

no clue

[hollow marlin]

Thats the only cert I can think of. If there peers had a strict validation then once it's expired, poof goes their routes

[jolly coral]

that's not how that works... also with RPKI if there's not a valid ROA for a given IP prefix, production provider networks generally "fail open" meaning they'll accept the prefix(es) from an RPKI standpoint. IRR is a different matter though (but would still have nothing to do with an expired cert)

[nimble sable]

if higher frequency is faster (ie 6ghz wifi is better than 5ghz) given the choice should i prefer the higher frequency for a given band? like for 6ghz, the whole field is empty...but for some reason going from the autochosen 37 to the highest possible 223 makes the wifi SLOWER, why? is it an inteference i'm not seeing?

[ocean pivot]

6ghz will be faster, but also lower range and more susceptible to interference from physical objects

[sinful ice]

for whole house ethernet, should i be using a patch panel? i have the wall jacks running to a switch but the speed is dog ankle.

[nimble sable]

so...why is lower range FASTER for me?

[pseudo blade]

Saying that higher frequencies are faster misses the point.
Higher frequencies get absorbed more and therefore travel less distance.
Therefore, they are less likely to have interference or other access points in-range, and more spectrum could be allocated because fewer other technologies could use it.
An uncongested 80mhz 2*2 performs roughly the same on both frequencies as long as you're close enough to not have signal loss.

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll I am so happy so much more stuff is moving to IP based

[nimble sable]

"the higher the frequency the faster they'll be" is literally a quote from techquickie though...so it's just about having less stuff interfering?

[pseudo blade]

There is an indirect correleation - namely that higher frequencies are less desirable for other uses and therefore you can have more frequency bandwidth there, reflected in the 1.2ghz of 6ghz spectrum allocated vs something like half that in 5ghz. This also means that it's less likely two wireless networks would need to share the same bandwidth.
Higher frequencies themselves do not offer more performance.

Channel width, spatial streams, signal quality, congestion/interference.

These are the primary factors influencing speed.

[pseudo blade]

I think the problem is that explaining it properly's a tad hard in a 5-minute video on a topic, even the above's a tiny bit wrong for brevity :P

[nimble sable]

i mean: "the higher the frequency the faster it'll be" vs "the higher the frequency the faster it'll end up being"

1 word difference, conveys a different message

[pseudo blade]

Neither is really guaranteed, though the latter's definitely more accurate for people in dense areas.

[nimble sable]

see this whole time i was trying to figure out how higher frequency would mean faster speeds INDEPENDENT of signal quality and interference

[pseudo blade]

All settings otherwise the same, it doesn't.

But with a wider band of permitted frequencies allowed in 6ghz for WiFi, you can have wider channels - like the 320mhz channels in WiFi 7.

That would allow higher speeds.

[frank thistle]

what do i need to put in ssid (to be bridged) and what do i need to put in BSSID (to be bridged) in my secundary Routers settings , i have my main routers LAN to my secundary Routers LAN connected

[polar vault]

just bought an i5 6600 from cex for 22 quid, I can now push 600-700Mbps through wireguard which is the speed of my 5G connection so it was just the shockingly slow i3 💪

[thick minnow]

has anyone messed with cisco before? i've got an old router, i started messing with it and got the POTS interfaces to work and now i wanna try and tie them into VOIP, its possible but i don't know how

its a cisco 2621XM

i think its running IOS 12.4

not really a high priority thing, more of a side project

[pseudo blade]

I think most formally trained networking people have messed with Cisco stuff at least a little bit :P

[thick minnow]

i have 0 training, just me messing around and watching videos lol

[pseudo blade]

...But I always find doing a quick lookup of the specs of the router tends to answer many questions.

[thick minnow]

making it up as i go

[thick minnow]

specs: old

its from 2001 i believe

[pseudo blade]

Two fast ethernet ports, 10 Base-T or 100 Base-TX only, no AUI, no MII. One Network Module slot, Two WIC slots. Console and aux ports with max speed of 115.2 KBPS.

Yeah so it's pretty damn old

[thick minnow]

yeah mine has an SHDSL WIC in it and a card with FXO and FXS interfaces

SHDSL i played around with and thought up some configs that might work but can't test, FA0/0 and 0/1 forward traffic to each other and i got the FXS cards able to call each other and dial out to the FXO

i wanna try and find an adsl card bc i have some old adsl modems laying around and its possible to configure the router as a dslam

or as something to replace our garbage isp provided thing lmao

[pseudo blade]

I really wouldn't do this to replace anything at all.

[thick minnow]

currently its just something i dick around with

[pseudo blade]

If you want an ISP router replacement I have better suggestions, even at an affordable price

[thick minnow]

would have to have a dsl modem

[pseudo blade]

ADSL, you wanted?

Not VDSL?

[thick minnow]

yeah, don't really need to replace it though bc it aint gonna help shit

[thick minnow]

yeah its adsl

garbage that we pay too much for

[pseudo blade]

I'd just do 4G with a yagi antenna lol

That's what I do right now for my home internet

[thick minnow]

same but my grandmother NEEDS her DSL and NEEDS her landline

so i just use my phone with my pc and dsl for everything else

[pseudo blade]

Leave her with the ISP stuff then and set up your own stuff

[thick minnow]

need to acquire money first

[pseudo blade]

My grandmother's still on VDSL though the landline's been chucked in favour of a smartphone - she's a lot happier with it since I replaced her old PC with a crappy USB wifi adapter with a new and wildly overkill thinkcentre

Grandma's on 16GB of DDR4, NVMe and a hexacore CPU :P
AX210 made the connectivity problems all better

[thick minnow]

we would get something other than DSL but there's n utilities where i live, we only have electricity and a phone line

no water / sewer / gas, none of that

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I'd use 4G and an ATA to plug the phone into

[thick minnow]

wtf is an ata

dont think my grandmother would be happy with whatever that is bc she's had the same number since the house was built in 1972

[pseudo blade]

Analog Telephone Adapter - VoIP in, RJ11 for old landline out

[thick minnow]

just sounds like extra effort and money

[pseudo blade]

Basically what you tried to do but without the joys of trying to make a 20-year old PBX work on a router

Which is definitely extra effort :P

[thick minnow]

lol

me fucking with the router was just "hmm, i wonder if i can figure out how this works"

too much freetime

ive got a dell L2 switch laying around, also 20 years old but its gigabit so i still use it

fans are cooked though so i wanna put noctua fans in it lol

was owned by a smoker before me, absolutely DISGUSTING when i cracked it open

[pseudo blade]

You can do that, but if you're buying ADSL cards for it you're signing up for learning useless bullshit nobody sane's going to build a new deployment on/they would tear out at the first sign of a problem

[thick minnow]

i'm the farthest from sane so sounds good to me

• aspergers
• owns a body pillow
• ham radio license (which i hardly use)
• surrounded by old JUNK
• wild opinions on things
• installed gentoo once

if you're buying ADSL cards for it
ill only get them if they're dirt cheap on ebay

like under 10 bucks

or better yet ask someone i know if they have any laying around bc they have tons of this shit and is where i actually got that router along with some old servers

[surreal goblet]

hey, I was wondering if I could block direct access to a network drive in windows but allow a program access it

[plucky pollen]

I have DSL internet, can I just plug a dsl to ethernet cable into a normal ethernet port on a pfsense / opnsense router?

[peak cloak]

no

[plucky pollen]

how would it work then?

My current isp router uses such a cable afaik

[peak cloak]

you need a modem

dsl and ethernet are 2 different protocols

[plucky pollen]

ig my current router has that built in then right

So it's actually a modem/router/switch/ap combo lol

[peak cloak]

yes alot do

[polar vault]

thanks for helping me too 🙏

[thick minnow]

not to mention he'd potentially send 100v down his ethernet line if the phone was ringing

[peak cloak]

pretty sure it's not 100v

[thick minnow]

ringing current is 90 - 120v 20hz

[peak cloak]

TIL

[modest ridge]

Hi

How do I get rid of this. The windows package installer has decided to take over all my one drive files. I can't open anything. I'm European and I'm trying to get some work done in America.

And this file has appeared in all the one drive folders.

[plucky pollen]

I don't use the phone line anyway lol

[modest ridge]

Any idea about my problem..

[peak cloak]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-do-the-onedrive-icons-mean-11143026-8000-44f8-aaa9-67c985aa49b3

[modest ridge]

Fixed it thanks.

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak

We need more switches

[tender cypress]

How do I know what my Wi-Fi plan is? And what my router can handle?

[lucid siren]

prn?

[rocky badge]

I like AV better 🤪

[tender cypress]

Hey, would anyone know? My parents handle all that, but I wanna know

[lucid siren]

you can check the speed on like a speedtest, for example on speedtest.net

[tender cypress]

I’m also not home currently. Anyway to know what speed my Ethernet is?

[lucid siren]

no

you could call up ur provider

[tender cypress]

Idk how to do that, my parents handle it

[peak cloak]

Ask parents

[rocky badge]

IGMP is so cool

[tender cypress]

Ok

[lucid siren]

no it breaks all the things

[peak cloak]

Should say on bill

[rocky badge]

Nah it makes stuff work

[lucid siren]

ecmp is the good stuff

[tender cypress]

I’m a minor and my parents handle it

[lucid siren]

ask parents

[peak cloak]

Yes ik, but if they don't know off the top of their head they can look at bill

[tender cypress]

That’s fair

[rocky badge]

It’s not practical for this

[lucid siren]

i hate multicasting

[rocky badge]

Too bad

[lucid siren]

btw, does any1 know how to get ntopng to use more than the default amount of cores?

and to save more than a few seconds of flow history

fyi: im passing multiple gbit/s of traffic into it

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge like and subscribe

[rocky badge]

lol

[shut atlas]

does anyone know the vonage ht802 admin password

im trying to use it with 3cx

[rocky badge]

admin?

[shut atlas]

it was 123 but there is an admin password for advanced settings. and ive tried that

[plucky pollen]

What's a decent dsl modem without router or anything like that integrated that's not too expensive? Most of the things that come up seem to be modem/router/switch/ap combos.

Do they really cost like 100€+? That's like almost as much as a full combo unit

And that plus the price of an AP and switch

(ik gigabit switch isn't that much)

I'm currently renting an ISP router combo thing and was considering switching to my own router, already have a computer to use for it, but seems like it's not that cheap

[thick minnow]

does anyone know what could be happening here?

[pseudo blade]

Could your other devices be using a different DHCP server?

Else I'd be checking the network configuration on the "lost" devices and comparing it with the others

If you can't find the devices physically, that sits rather outside the scope of networking. Perhaps a police report is in order?

[zealous zinc]

Hi I've brrn tring to fix my 5 mbps speed I've usually use ethernet over power i tried going directly to the router to see if the ethernet over power was the problem would I need to get a ethernet card to fix it

EDUP Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express PCI-E Network Card 10/100/1000Mbps RJ45 LAN Adapter Converter for Desktop PC https://a.co/d/eF4Vjyi

Like this

[pseudo blade]

What kind of wack computer would you own that has PCI-Express but not a built-in NIC?

What does the ethernet over power adapter plug into lol

[pseudo blade]

I'm just going to answer with "no, you already have one"

[zealous zinc]

What is nic

[zealous zinc]

The wall

I think it is a problem with my motherboard because I plug the ethernet into my ps4 and I get 30+ speeds

[opal pagoda]

I tink thats just powerline but he doesn't know the name

[pseudo blade]

I meant more that it's going to have to connect to a NIC somewhere so the card's likely unnecessary

As confirmed when he mentioned that he thinks it's the motherboard NIC that's the issue

It could be. It probably isn't.

[worn viper]

so i have a tp link ax20 and 1000 mbps download and 100 upload,should I disable the qos? or leave it on? I also use torrents on one of my machines

[obtuse moth]

So Im getting around 30mbps or less, for some reason even though the internet speed is meant to be like 135 to 150

Does anyone know why that would be

[worn viper]

check if a certain device/app is hogging your bandwith,and are you on wifi?

[obtuse moth]

Yea I was just testing it on wifi

I’ll give it another go

Yea now it’s like 29mbps, so more or less the same

Idk when we upgraded to it, it was 140 to 150mbps

And everything was downloading smoothly

[trim wagon]

i've got a windows 10 that every time I Wake the computer from Sleep/Hibernation the Ethernet controller will identify the network, then a few seconds later drop the connection, saying no ether cable connected, go to identifying, and then back to no cable connected and will do this for several minutes. my current work around has been to disable it, and then re-enable it, and it usually identifies and stays connected without issues after that. Seems to only happen when waking the computer from sleep/hibernation though. any idea what's going on here?

[thick minnow]

Hey, could anyone with experience with NAS / DAS give me some advice?

I'm currently running a home server on an Intel NUC essentially just running a few VMs, as well as a plex and minecraft server. As it stands right now, I have a 1tb NVMe SSD running all the VMs, with a single 20TB drive in a external enclosure hooked up to hold my plex library and a local backup of PC files.

My question is ultimately, would I benefit from getting a 1-2 bay synology NAS or similar? I don't really care about redundancy or any RAID configurations since its non critical data on big drives with lots of backups, but I would like the benefits of being able to easily access from anywhere over internet without port forwarding / custom VPN etc. I also like that I can set up multiple users to potentially share access to my parents who need some cloud storage. I'm also not sure if its faster to transfer files to and from my PC than my current SMB solution, but if it was, that would be a huge bonus too. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

[strong holly]

Anyone think this is a good deal? They're currently going for $900 new and I like the SSD caching and >4 bays. I'm not really familiar with qnap's file systems or setups, and I'm aware of their security flaws of late.

[thick minnow]

Yes

[pseudo blade]

I feel it necessary to remind you that backups that live on the same drive are not backups at all.
Would you benefit from getting a Synology? Depends on how you use the NUC and if the NAS would suit your needs. There's Nextcloud and the like if you wanted to do it on the NUC, or you can use Synology/such if you really want to. Really a question you can answer better than anyone else.

[pseudo blade]

NAS boxes like that tend to be pretty pricy - It's a good deal if you want a QNAP with that many hot-swap bays, though you could buy/build cheaper if cost was your primary concern.

I doubt you'd get anything that small with that many bays+features though.

[thick minnow]

I have backups on multiple devices so thats not my concern at all. Do you know if they tend to transfer files faster than over SMB? Also is the interface for remote file sharing / remote access more user friendly than nextcloud? I'm sure I could handle it either way but not sure if my less tech savvy parents could

or if theres any other obvious benefits to NAS vs simple external drive im overlooking

[strong holly]

That's kinda my thing. Cost used to be a primary concern, but I really don't have a lot of time these days and really just need a way in for a nas that does what I need. Mainly backups, mass storage/Plex service, etc. I'd been looking into old R710/720s but the noise and power consumption are big turn offs. Once I get a rack at some point, I'll consider building.

[pseudo blade]

Sounds like you have an answer.

[pseudo blade]

Hm, I'm not sure on the SMB question - I suspect your NUC would have the older/cheaper 1/2-bay NASes beat though the DS723+ would perform better if that kind of price tag is tolerable to you for a 2-bay 3.5" NAS (it has 2 NVMe slots, Ryzen CPU and 10 gig LAN)

[opal pagoda]

how about building a nas in a regular case

[pseudo blade]

^ What I'd do, because I hate spending money and have plenty of old computer hardware I can press into service cheaply

[opal pagoda]

if case has 5.25 caddies you could put this in in

[pseudo blade]

Also IMO hot-swap is overrated on a home NAS

[opal pagoda]

yea it is

[opal pagoda]

fractal design define series of cases have great non hotswap hdd mounts that are preatty ideal for nas use

[strong holly]

Space is also at a premium right now. House isn't properly networked (on to-do list) and at the cost for itx, it's roughly equivalent. Trust me, I'd love nothing more than to build and tinker.

[grizzled hemlock]

Hey y'all

I have horrible wifi reception in my room because my whole house used gravel as insolation between the floors, and I want to fix that.
Obviously taking the gravel out isn't an option.
I have lan cables from my router to the upper floor and my room so putting a wired wifi extender would be the easiest solution but I'd kinda like a really clean or cool solution (a normal wifi extender is neither clean nor cool). I at least want all the wifi access points to act as the same wifi, which is not common with the plug-wifi-extenders I've seen. The other option would be to have a separate router in my room, separate wifi and separate subnet. This would allow me to practice some networking concepts in real life; which would be cool.
Which option would you recommend and how could I go about setting them up? What equipment should I buy. I would not want to spend anymore than 200 bucks for this project and I would at least need an extra switch for upstairs.

[pseudo blade]

The correct approach is to use APs, and you can get your "same WiFi" effect by using an AP that has a controller.

Sadly for you, this is not usually cheap to do well.

TP-link's Omada access points and Mikrotik's cAP software and routers are the two cheap options I know of for properly centralising WiFi, though you're still not getting the latest and greatest with multiple AP's on a $200 spend.

[peak cloak]

Iirc you don't need a controller nessicerally

[pseudo blade]

Yep

You can skip that by just setting the names and passwords the same manually in multiple access points.

[peak cloak]

Also I would not recommend a subnet per room, would break a lot and unless setup properly you would just be NATing

[pseudo blade]

I didn't see that - yeah one subnet for your house is fine

[grizzled hemlock]

But then it wont automatically change to the closest?

[pseudo blade]

It will.

[peak cloak]

It would

[grizzled hemlock]

Just by having the same ssid and password?

[pseudo blade]

Your wireless devices will make the decision automatically, yes

[peak cloak]

Well the client should automatically connect to the strongest base station

[pseudo blade]

You'd really want them on the same subnet for that

[peak cloak]

Yes

Same L2 network

[grizzled hemlock]

Yeah that makes sense

Any good access points that you can recommend for this, should I go with netgear because I already have one of there switches?

[pseudo blade]

If it's unmanaged and without a controller there's little point keeping them the same

[peak cloak]

You can look at omada

Those can easily be put in a controlled mode with a controller if desired

[pseudo blade]

Omada's cheap, I use Mikrotik stuff for my own setups but it has its idiosyncrasies

You could go UniFi, the U6 Lite's $100 - but it explicitly requires controller software

[rocky badge]

They can standalone

[pseudo blade]

Can they? Last I checked it was adopt it, limited SSH access or nothing

[rocky badge]

Mobile app can set them up as standalone

[pseudo blade]

Well there you go.

[rocky badge]

They've always been able to do that

[pseudo blade]

The mobile app basically standing in for a controller then

As you could with the PC software

[grizzled hemlock]

Is there something that runs on some open source stuff or is it all proprietary?

[rocky badge]

The mobile app is just sending inform config but the AP won’t be adopted to anything.

[pseudo blade]

if you want open source run screaming from everything listed

[rocky badge]

open source networking gear

[grizzled hemlock]

Hahaha screaming running noises

[pseudo blade]

You can look at GL.inet?

Their stuff runs OpenWRT

[grizzled hemlock]

Cool I'll look into it

I kindof want to build my own networking gear now and run my own custom firmware on it. Hahaha

[pseudo blade]

You came to us asking for an alternative to WiFi exteners and now you want your own custom firmware - Scope creep much? :P

[grizzled hemlock]

No but 4real if that stuff is all proprietary anyways I'll just stick to dumm stuff if it's true that just setting the ssid and password to the same things will work almost as fine as a controlled setup

What are the advantages anyways if that works anyways

[pseudo blade]

Advantages of a controller? or not using one?

[grizzled hemlock]

Just tell me the differences between using one and not using one

[pseudo blade]

A controller manages all your APs for you, with a single management console. You can set SSIDs, Passwords etc. once and have them apply everywhere - firmware updates also. It can also do stuff like make WiFi APs disconnect you if you're not switching networks properly/there's some other benefit to you being on a different AP.

[grizzled hemlock]

Well kinda sounds like more then I need: unmanaged it is

Any unmanaged APs you would recommend?

[pseudo blade]

You could use a UniFi AP like the U6 lite with the mobile app like Blob stated above, you could use one of TP-link's nicer ones, or GL.inet's home router variants as an AP, or I guess you could decide to use what I'd personally use but maybe not recommend to someone looking for a simple solution - the pleasantly overkill hAP AX^3 (actually a full router)

I mean it'd take me like 5 minutes to set up with an app/webui but every time it happens a Cisco nerd's child dies :P

I never really understood why they dislike it so much

[final drum]

Hey folks. I'm looking at picking up a UniFi Enterprise XG 24 since I have some needs for 10g/2.5g. I currently have a U6 Enterprise as my WAP. Is there anything else worth considering right now?

[pseudo blade]

I'd say if you don't know you need it save yourself the cash

Oh wait you mean alternatives to that switch - Do you need any specific features other than speed?

[final drum]

Mostly the speed, I was looking at Ubiquiti since I already have a WAP and like the software quite a bit

[pseudo blade]

Well you're going to want Ubiquiti if you want it to integrate into their console

[final drum]

Yeah that's kind of where I'm stuck. I'd be willing to go for a cheaper switch if it supported 2.5g with 10G uplinks but I don't really see any decent options around

All of my servers are using DAC cables into a Quanta LB6M currently lol

[pseudo blade]

Well you probably wouldn't have 2.5gbe in server gear

[final drum]

Replacement servers I was looking at are all !0GbitE. The 2.5G stuff is mostly for the WAP and the second desktop that my partner uses since we use an SSD array in the basement for Unity project storage

[pseudo blade]

That makes sense

[final drum]

But, I keep ending up at the XG 24 for features and price. Everything else seems to be more insane as far as price goes

[pseudo blade]

You could get a smaller 10/2.5 gig switch and use 1 gig for the other stuff

[final drum]

That's what I'm doing currently unfortunately

Oh 10G/2.5G

I've been having issues finding those as well lol

[pseudo blade]

QNAP has some very cheap multigig stuff, maybe have a look at their switch gear if you really want a price cut

[peak cloak]

RouterOS is just so clunky

[pseudo blade]

It's OK, it might not kill your children

[final drum]

Can't be worse than the HP OS I'm currently using

[kind cypress]

anyone got a recomendation for a dhcp server programm /os /whatever optimally with a neat lil gui to set static ip addresses
limitations i have:
cant change router (ISP meanie)
Isp router has no bridge mode
but i can disable dhcp on th isp router

[pseudo blade]

It's really not any worse than Cisco gear/alternatives, just different and decidedly more feature-complete than your typical consumer stuff

[pseudo blade]

Windows Server Might be a tad overkill but you could run openwrt/pfsense/something in a VM and do it with that.

[kind cypress]

alright thanks ill look into these options

[final drum]

Hm. They do have the Enterprise 8 POE back in stock now...

[pseudo blade]

Yeah that's an option if 8 faster clients are enough

Which it probably is

[final drum]

I'll have to run downstairs, I think that should be enough for what I'm doing

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak @waxen scroll https://extremeportal.force.com/ExtrArticleDetail?an=000074224 Am I understanding this article correctly?

By following these steps I won't loose the config?

[waxen scroll]

As long as you save it

[rocky badge]

Yeah

its saved to nvram rn

[soft wolf]

It still works

It’ll be fine

[sage crow]

Rightttt

I wouldn’t rely on that for anything that needs stable connection constantly

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll EXOS config is SO STUPID

[swift tree]

id trust it just seems that the sleevinh got fd up wouldnt leave at such an angle tho

[sage crow]

I wouldn’t want the copper wire exposed lol especially if it’s Poe

[swift tree]

that switch isnt poe

and it's probably just a ground

[sage crow]

Tbh still wouldn’t leave it like that but eh

[gloomy flicker]

Anyone knows if it's possible to add SSL to a free noip domain?
I just want to add SSL to my home server, but don't want to pay for that.
I can find free dns services, there are lots of free SSL certificates, but I just can't find a DNS service that I can utilize DDNS in my route and have the ability to add SSL.
Any ideas?

[pseudo blade]

That's only foil shielding

Still not ideal of course.

[pseudo blade]

LetsEncrypt will do it via http.
Of course, the domain owner can issue a wildcard cert and impersonate you at any time.

[gloomy flicker]

Care to elaborate?
By domain owner you mean noip?..

[pseudo blade]

Well yes. They can issue a wildcard cert for the domain at any time.
Is this an unacceptable risk? Probably not.

[gloomy flicker]

Not entirely sure what that means tbh, but I don't think I'd worry about that anyhow ^^
I think I somewhat managed to get it working.

[visual tangle]

Using OpenSSL I think you should be able to use a PKI to setup your own self-signed certificates for this purpose.

Assuming you have access to a Unix-based OS a guide like this should get you where you need to go: https://pki-tutorial.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Generally I don't associate SSL with the DNS, this is usually controlled at the firewall / incoming connection to an application level.

[pseudo blade]

Just use LetsEncrypt

Self-signed SSL certs aren't accepted by anything you haven't put your root cert on.

[visual tangle]

Fair enough.
Was not aware of that service.
I figured if this is just for your own server for personal use there is no issue being your own CA, including root CA.
I would not recommend this if one wanted to share this more broadly and/or have others log onto the system.

[gloomy flicker]

Just friends and family mostly, but trying to be as secure as I can, lots of things to learn and do for that probably 🙂
I had some issues last time I tried to get letsencrypt and nginx proxy manager to work, but I'll work it out eventually.

[south mulch]

Is this normal

[slow pivot]

by definition if you want static IP addresses, you aren't using DHCP...

[clear igloo]

In what regards? For cable internet? sure

[peak cloak]

They prob mean static DHCP lease

[slow pivot]

truuue

[plucky pollen]

i think the upload should be higher

shouldnt be this different

but might depend on your deal with your isp

this is what I get on DSL

[nimble sable]

Ya 16 is kinda low but could be right... Why do ISPs do this btw?

[plucky pollen]

the lower upload than download?

I think it's a limitation of dsl and cable internet

[nimble sable]

What? Really?

Speaking of, you guys know how marketing ruined wifi and it's super confusing cuz advertising keeps adding up numbers from different bands and Up+down etc?

Well, apparently Bell thought that's a good idea and we should be doing it for wired connections too

[plucky pollen]

💀

I have tested my ISP router's wifi speed and it can actually only do like 130 mbps

[plucky pollen]

this is definitely not ok

imagine if it turns out the "select areas" where you can get 3g down and the ones where you can get 3g up arent even the same

"if you add up the upload speed in city A and the download speed in city B, you can get 6 gbps!"

[plucky pollen]

they claim 10.7 gbps for this thing????

that's probably adding up multiple devices and even then i doubt it

also they're definitely adding up the 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz

hmm i looked up a test for it and it doesnt seem as bad, maybe i did something wrong when i tested it

but it's still way worse than advertised

maybe im accidentally using 2.4 ghz?

gotta check it

[pseudo blade]

Our new hard drive - you can add 24TB of data, and you can delete 24TB of data - That's a total of 48TB.

In fact, by repeatedly deleting all your files one might store entire petabytes of data!

[lavish hollow]

I'm on that specific Bell connection, at least my 2.5Gbe onboard NIC is the limiting factor right now

they are selling that 3/3 connection to people that just have a house full of wireless devices, like my neighbor with an old laptop

[nimble sable]

There's an 8 too, who needs an 8...

[plucky pollen]

isn't it really expensive?

[lavish hollow]

I'm paying under $70 a month after taxes

the 8/8 package is available at my place now too

[plucky pollen]

imagine

i think i would get 1 gbps for that

[lavish hollow]

2 years at that price, might drop to the 1.5/940 plan after that if I can't work another deal

[limber wyvern]

should i get a wfi plug or a wifi extender

[plucky pollen]

nvm apparently only 250 mbps dsl is available at my house?

its supposed to be a pretty new house

maybe gotta check a different isp

[meager ginkgo]

neither.

[meager ginkgo]

Doesn't matter if the house is new. Some new houses don't have internet at all and have to use satellite

[plucky pollen]

i mean it's in the middle of a decently big city so i thought it would have fibre but apparently not (yet)

[meager ginkgo]

ISPs are dumb most of the time lol. AT&T just brought fiber to my old address which was less than a mile away

my neighborhood (im in right now) has had fiber since around 2016

[plucky pollen]

a smaller town next to my city already has fibre but I don't lol

[meager ginkgo]

have you checked one of the internet provider checker websites

[plucky pollen]

yeah

[meager ginkgo]

if you're in the US you just put your zip

[plucky pollen]

pretty sure its not available here

i checked multiple sites

im in germany

[meager ginkgo]

ah okay. You checked the official websites right?

[plucky pollen]

yeah

[meager ginkgo]

yeah.. that's just how it is sometimes

there's literally a house in my neighborhood that doesn't have fiber that's next to one that does

simply because all of the nodes are full

[plucky pollen]

our politicians slept on fibre in the past

[meager ginkgo]

The US has been expanding fiber alot recently which is nice

[plucky pollen]

yeah i suppose we're also expanding

but too late lol

[meager ginkgo]

lol

[plucky pollen]

I recently was in Sweden and their internet is way better

the hotel room had 300 mbps up/down, i could only get 250 down and like 100 up

[meager ginkgo]

Singapore people have 10gig for like $15/mo

jealous 🤣

[plucky pollen]

yeah 💀

at least i have 100m now, when I lived with my parents my room was at the end of a corridor and I effectively only had like 15 down 5 up over powerline > wifi, and it was unreliable

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge lol the early career person price for cisco live is still $775-845

thats a lot of money for an individual person to pay

[sharp sparrow]

It sure is. I pay $10/month for gig fiber, $30/month for 600Mbps cable, and $10/month for 100Mbps 4G LTE.

[plucky pollen]

Damn

I pay like 35 € for 100 mbps

[sharp sparrow]

To be clear, bahnhof's 10G service is only available in a couple neighborhoods of one city :p

[plucky pollen]

Yeah I figured

[sharp sparrow]

We do have gig available all over the place, though, including rural farmland

I think my mother-in-law pays €120 for gig fiber on her farm

[sharp sparrow]

Not bad for mobile

[thick minnow]

Never live in Latvia.

[pseudo blade]

Looks pretty good ngl

[unborn sluice]

yea. mines worse.

[plucky pollen]

Yeah lol

[plucky pollen]

I have a cheap mobile deal that's limited to 50 mbps because I didn't wanna pay like 20€ per month or more and I don't download 100 gb files on mobile data obviously

[hexed wedge]

ok so i've had issues with network speeds, i get a max of 600 mbit/s and it flactuates alot

[sharp sparrow]

I get "unlimited" for €10

[plucky pollen]

all the major providers here want you to spend at least 20€ a month on your mobile data. I managed to find a deal for 7€ that's 10 GB per month and 50 mbps

[sharp sparrow]

I have 4 mobile users on a shared-resource family plan. The resources I pay for are "unlimited everything", though.... €120. Plus another €10 for a data-only sim (can have up to 10 of them at €10 per)

Competition amongst our mobile providers is pretty strong here

[frail inlet]

I have a TP-Link AX1800 router. However it doesn't find my switch which is on LAN... It only sees my brothers computer which is also on LAN... You guys know how to troubleshoot this?

[drowsy fossil]

is the switch managed?

[sharp sparrow]

Is it a managed switch?

[sharp sparrow]

ok then :p

[frail inlet]

I'm not 100% sure what that is, but it used to have the IP 192.168.0.2 and had a login 😅

[drowsy fossil]

so yes
interesting
can your computer see it?

and is it working

[frail inlet]

My computer is on wireless as I don't have a far enough cable that goes to my computer. But it has all my homelab stuff on it like my pihole, tor node, home assistant stuff on it. I can move the switch to test it real quick

Lights are blinking tho indicating that the cable between the switch and router is there

Yeah my computer works on cable

[drowsy fossil]

strange
can you run an ip scan from your computer?

[frail inlet]

on 0/24 then or?

[drowsy fossil]

you may also want to scan 1.0/24 if you dont see it on 0.0

[drowsy fossil]

are any of those ips on 0.x stuff you dont recognize?

[frail inlet]

171 has an "unknown" name

[drowsy fossil]

and its not on the list above

[frail inlet]

It is

191 are the media amp speaker stuff tho.

[drowsy fossil]

oh
is it the switch?

[frail inlet]

It's not.

[drowsy fossil]

171 isnt?
unfortunate
may need to reset the switch, but do you actually need it for anything?

i mean the interface

[frail inlet]

I don't really need to log into it. But I'm not able to find my pihole 😅 So I thought that if I was able to find my switch I could find my pihole

[peak cloak]

Is that a static IP?

If it's static, depending on how the router is coded, then it won't show since it's not a DHCP lease

[frail inlet]

It's set static to 0.2. Default it's 0.1 which was anoying af! because it was like 50/50 if you got into the switch or router 😂

[peak cloak]

Yep, that explains it then

Router only shows DHCP lease

[peak cloak]

Yeah no, you don't want IP conflicts

[frail inlet]

It used to show it just fine tho 🤔

Pihole used to be on 0.3

[peak cloak]

Hmm

[drowsy fossil]

set static in the router settings, have your stuff being dhcp is generally better for troubleshooting

[frail inlet]

From dynamic to static then I suspect?

[drowsy fossil]

no no

[drowsy fossil]

near here should be dhcp settings, and somewhere you should be able to set a "reservation" or static lease

[frail inlet]

Address reservation looks promising

[drowsy fossil]

yeee

also your dns wont be using pihole if your primary is cloudflare

[frail inlet]

It was the pihole, but once it disappeared, so did my internet 😅

[drowsy fossil]

yep thats how it works lol

[frail inlet]

so temp set it to 1.1.1.1

[drowsy fossil]

you may also want to set advanced settings here to change your upstream dns to pihole with backup, then point your local devices to 192.168.0.1

[frail inlet]

Something like that then? Don't really understand these red fields 😅

Oh actually I can just set it here

[drowsy fossil]

no, leave it as dynamic, but under advanced it should let you change dns

ye there

[frail inlet]

That would be a lot better. Then set primary dns for DHCP to 192.168.0.1

[drowsy fossil]

exactly!

[frail inlet]

I'll attempt to reset the switch and see if I can then find it

[drowsy fossil]

ye
get your pihole working first lel

[frail inlet]

I reset the switch... Nothing...

[drowsy fossil]

try connecting up just 1 device to the switch

[frail inlet]

I did. Just my computer

I was hoping that they would fight about 192.168.0.1 again, but no...

[drowsy fossil]

no i mean only 1 total

no internet nothing

[frail inlet]

Oh yeah. I tried that aswell. Connected only my computer to it... I got what looked like some undefined behavior? It kinda connected, then disconnected and repeated like that 🤷‍♂️

[peak cloak]

when you only connect pc to it, you have to set a static IP on the PC in order to connect to webui

[frail inlet]

Ah. Since I reset it, it should then be 0.1 again then

That worked!

[drowsy fossil]

cgrats
now set it to dhcp

[drowsy fossil]

yee

[frail inlet]

I probably need to wait a little now?

[drowsy fossil]

then youll have to connect it back up to the router and it should appear

[frail inlet]

I connected it back up to the router before I set it to DHCP as I can now reach it again

[drowsy fossil]

sweet

it appearing in your router?

[frail inlet]

Not yet

I can't get it to show...

[drowsy fossil]

well you have the mac now so you can add a reservation

you can reserve 0.2 if you want

[frail inlet]

huh... now it casually showed up 😅 I guess it just took a while

[drowsy fossil]

Nice

[frail inlet]

I got back into my pihole now

[frail inlet]

I set it to 192.168.0.3 for primary DNS, that didn't work. When I did that it set the ip of my router to 192.168.1.1 for some reason and the internet stopped working...

[drowsy fossil]

very unfortunate

you may even want to set it up so your pihole is your dhcp server

[thick minnow]

not that i'm aware of, the modem (in this case, router) is in bridge mode with all wifi features turned off, and the router being actually used is the ASUS router. the streaming tv devices can connect with each other, but the phones and all but one pc cannot communicate with the streaming devices

[frail inlet]

I set the pihold as DNS for DHCP. That worked.

Not sure if it's gonna work for all cases, but it works for phone, laptops, etc.

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak @clear igloo I don't understand why this university (not mine but another) split students on Google Workspace & faculty, staff are Outlook/hosted Exchange

[long scarab]

off topic, and i don't need help, as it's not my issue
BUT THIS IS MY SCHOOL WIFI RN

[rocky badge]

That sounds like hell unless they have something doing custom mail routing between Google & Microsoft because then they'll be treated as external mail, directory sync, and contacts sound like a pain in the ass with split Google/Exchange like that

[peak cloak]

Weird

[rocky badge]

but it looks like they are doing special routing with Exchange & Google since the vols.utk.edu one is "students"

[thick minnow]

hello there

anyone in here could help me around choosing a good router?
i need eigther a long range wifi router with 4 or more ports (preferable cisco) or poe capable for access points in case i need more range

the product palette is a bit huge so iam a bit lost searching for the hardware i need

ive been thinking about a cisco ISDN 880 series communication router but iam unsure if thats the right one

[drowsy fossil]

Budget?
Does it need to be 2 devices or can you do router + switch+ap

And finally what speed internet

[thick minnow]

it can be everything together

budget around 140 euro

[peak cloak]

for APs, tplink omada?

[thick minnow]

i dont really care how its setup preferable just one device and i extend with a AP once i need more range but if its router switch and ap that would be good too

[thick minnow]

for access points i would get Cisco Catalyst 9136 Series or 9166 Series or 9164 Series

[peak cloak]

aren't you on a budget?

[thick minnow]

i can get them on very big discounts as iam cisco certified internetwork expert

i just never did anything around wireless stuff at work yet so i have no experience for my home IT on that

[peak cloak]

ah ok fair

idk really anything about cisco

[thick minnow]

i would be fine with a other solution too as long as it supports what i need

[gilded ice]

when i got home from a vacation my network was a mess

wifi speeds were slow, i managed to get them fast again with some moving around with the router (it's 5g) but my wifi mesh network is only about half as fast as the router which has never been a problem

the upload speed is normal at around 10-15mbps but the download instead of being exactly 100mbps it about 40-50

in the mesh dashboard i can run a speed test which shows the mesh can do 100mbps

there are a few devices connected to the mesh but none of them are using bandwidth

i have 3 cameras which dont use internet unless actively looking at them and then i have a few idle devices which are using kbps according to the dashboard

so is the mesh reserving for those devices or something?

[nimble sable]

+1 for tplink, i regret getting netgear AP over Tplink ...tplinks UI is tonnes better

[warm pelican]

hi guys, right now I have a tp link av600, and this is my connection to the pc, I saw that the av600 does not provide 600mbs (i connected my laptop directly to the router and i got 300mbs up and down)

my question is which is the bottleneck the av600 or my electric installation?

because i was thinking about getting the tplink av1000 for getting better speed, but if the bottleneck comes from the electric installation and not from the plc, getting a av1000 would be useless, what do u think?

[opal pagoda]

check distances of power wiring runs , try other spots around your home

and if you can run physical cat 6a i would reccomend that you do

[pseudo blade]

lol

This marks the fourth time I've stopped Wireguard on my server I access via Wireguard without thinking

I need to use a more robust method to manage adding peers - or run a different instance to run management

[peak cloak]

oh boy

https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/CVE-2023-21554

The CVE-2023-21554 vulnerability allows an attacker to potentially execute code remotely and without authorization by reaching the TCP port 1801. In other words, an attacker could gain control of the process through just one packet to the 1801/tcp port with the exploit, triggering the vulnerability
MSMQ service needs to be enabled

[pseudo blade]

Easy fix then

[peak cloak]

yeah, it's a matter of upgrading and disabling if enabled

but it can take a while...

[pseudo blade]

I don't think it's very commonly used but yeah nothing's quick in big networks

For most networks:
Disable via group policy, phased if you please
Patch at soonest convenience
If possible, add the exploit's signature as an IoC in your security software/IPS.

If you're using it somewhere, find out why and restrict comminications to the port to the minimum possible number of hosts

[drowsy fossil]

Basic scan of tcp1801 our network says we are probably gonna be aight

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I think most would be

[thick minnow]

Why can't i connect wifi to my vm? Do i need an adapter for it

[pseudo blade]

What hypervisor are you using? Generally you'd want to add a NAT/vSwitch for it to use the host's WiFi connection for internet.

[thick minnow]

Hey thanks man it worked

[pseudo blade]

No problem.

[hard pier]

Idk if this is better for the networking channel just lmk.

I have Tonido but it has great limitations when it comes to downloading things to iOS devices. They just go nowhere even tho it says it downloaded a file. There’s even more issues and I just want an ftp with a good gui.

Greatly appreciate anybody who has advice. Sick of tonidos sub par experience. I want something that works well with iOS if that’s possible. Just want to send anything to my home server if I need to. Before I had PLEX I would torture myself by browsing my photo albums with my ftp so at least I don’t do that anymore lol

[pseudo blade]

lol it looks like that project died years ago in favour of subscription-based cloud shit (as many projects do)

If you want an appliance, go with Synology or QNAP (though do read up on QNAP before purchasing if you choose it).
iOS file handling is horrible everywhere AFAIK, though going with something with a web-based console's probably easiest.
-Could also try replacing Tonido with Debian/such and use SFTP with certs though if you're using the plug system resources might be a tad tight and that ARMv5 CPU would probably make that endeavour... educational. Possible, but educational.

[hard pier]

I’ll look into it. Anything that allows me to use my existing hardware would be best. Honestly once I’m home I can offload everything as long as I bring enough storage on vacation. Being able to send files home if I need to free up space would be the only issue. Getting files from home isn’t a problem tho cuz I can pull anything from PLEX

[thick minnow]

why do we keep frying modems

we had to get ours replaced a month ago and its broken again

[sage crow]

Are they cheap junk

[plucky pollen]

lol how do you fry a modem

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-move-gif-25500460

[thick minnow]

ok i think its the ISP's fault this time

the phone line doesn't even have a dial tone on it

[plucky pollen]

oof

[thick minnow]

either that or the construction on the highway where the garbage FTTN thing sits broke it

something is BROKEN

[plucky pollen]

for data transfer in my local network like SMB for example, does it all have to go through my router or just my switch? cause my switch can handle 16 gbps total throughput but is only connected to my router with 1 gbps

[peak cloak]

if it's on the same subnet it will only go through switch

but your switch is probably limited to gigabit interfaces, so that 16gbps is total throughput of the whole switch on all interfaces

[plucky pollen]

yeah ik

[hard oak]

Really quick question: I have a 900mb FTTP broadband package through BT. I've just ordered their Whole Home Wifi kit. Says "Protocol: IEEE 802.11ax 5GHz, 802.11a/n/ac 5GHz, 802.11b/g/n 2.4GHz" and AC2600. Am I going to be able to actually access anywhere near to that speed?

would it be worth the extra £85 for the Premium kit? https://www.amazon.co.uk/BT-Seamless-Connection-Everywhere-Complete/dp/B07VQMNKRG/ref=sr_1_3?crid=39Y1T48JSJFFX&keywords=whole%2Bhome%2Bpremium&qid=1681405987&s=computers&sprefix=whole%2Bhome%2Bpremium%2Ccomputers%2C92&sr=1-3&th=1

that's a fair point, just that the powerline ethernet seems dodgy in my house

then again the broadband only came online recently so maybe that's why it fluctuates

seems to be slower than the wifi

yeah price/budget is the problem rn for me

this is the package. just don't want to be wasting the speed through equipment that can't carry it

Hmm ok. I always have trouble with powerline ethernet adaptors

Probably too much work :/

I mean theoretically, if the mesh hub I ordered is sitting literally next to my PS5, I should be theoretically capable of at least like 500Mb down right?

the main router will be in the room almost directly below

Mixture of online gaming where ping matters to me a lot, and being able to quickly download large games as I rarely buy discs

I spend a stupid amount of my spare time playing Warzone lol

Would there be a noticeable wifi speed difference between the AC2600 and AX3700 mesh routers? It's only £80 more

the reviews are actually very good for them even though they're branded. Broadband companies are a little different here than in the states

nah you know what, I'll stick with these then if I'm unhappy use more ethernet powerline adaptors

[gilded kite]

Does someone here have experience with OPNsense? Im planning to build myself an OPNsense box and I'm looking arround for good NICs right now.
Generally I hear that I should be sticking to Intel Nics, but it still seems to be very hit or miss with the chipset on there.
Is there any specific Nic someone could recommend me? I dont need more than a single gigabit port, so I'm hoping to stay on the cheaper side

[gilded kite]

Okay thanks, I just ordered a NIC with an intel I210-T1 chip. I hope it'll work alright

I'm also interested in managing my traffic. I'd like to prioritize certain devices of mine. I think its possible with the traffic shaper on OPNsense, but I cant find any decent tutorials for it. Is someone using that?

I'll look into it, thank you!

[hard pier]

Anybody here done a windows storage space with ssd caching thru windows 10?

Saw the whole script to run but I’m pretty sure I’ll need to backup my data on my current drives elsewhere and format before creating the new pool with the 2 ssd and 2 hdd.

Also wondering if once the two hdd and ssd are in a tiered pool to act as cache if I want to add more hdd would I do that as I normally would? What the hell happens if I want to upgrade the cpu and so on it was created with a script so it wouldn’t transfer the same right?

[fast gulch]

so i currently recieve 150Mbps however have a boost to 500Mbps. I did a speed test through BT's system and says i am recieving full 500 however when i download things on my PC the highest ive got is 90Mbps and on average i get around 60Mbps. How do i try and get access to all of it?

It goes fibre to router, router to powerline adapter, powerline adapter to powerline adapter in my room, adapter to ethernet switch, ethernet switch to my pc

[sage crow]

Depending on the file size download speeds change

Speed tests are done with very minimal data @fast gulch

If you’re downloading something like a game it’ll slow substantially

[peak cloak]

no?

[peak cloak]

I suspect it's powerline

powerline often isn't great

[sage crow]

Yes lol

This is common knowledge you can Google

[peak cloak]

file size doesn't change speeds

[sage crow]

My internet does the exact same thing under heavy downloads

[peak cloak]

to the network it's the same, just a stream of data

[sage crow]

Yes it does lol

[peak cloak]

now, if you do a speedtest during download, yes that will change

[sage crow]

But on your device you will download slower then what your internet is capable of

[peak cloak]

no, that's not how it works

[fast gulch]

i did a download of blender, only like 1GB, got 60Mbps avg. Downloaded COD WZ2, got similar if not exact same speed

[sage crow]

Yes that literally is how it works lol

[peak cloak]

link me to something

[peak cloak]

if you have a portable device like a laptop, do a speedtest before powerline, and one after

I usually like to use https://speedtest.net

[fast gulch]

yeah i use speedtest ookla

ill try with my laptop so gimme a min

nvm i cant as my laptop doesnt have ethernet but over wireless i got 21up and 17 down. mightve found the issue tho with pc so one sec

[sage crow]

In theoretical speed testing large files saturate the network more and tend to slow speeds over a short period of time and even the entire download in some cases.

[fast gulch]

idk if this is the culprit on my ethernet settings

but my laptop is 72/72

[peak cloak]

if the highest you get is 90mpbs it could be

[sage crow]

Internet speeds are tested on how fast a certain amount of data is sent in a given amount of time. A larger file will decrease transfer rate speeds per second which is how it is measured

[fast gulch]

but doesnt linus even do a test with like gigabit ethernet and download a 50GB game in like 30 seconds?

[sage crow]

especially if it is trying to transfer multiple things at once

[peak cloak]

you used chatGPT...

I am 99% sure that is literally not how it works. Why would a large file decrease speed, it's just a datastream, you would continue having the same speed

@rocky badge

[sage crow]

You can also google it lol

[peak cloak]

nothing I googled proved it correct

from a reputable source

[fast gulch]

even tho its from their video about steam game caching servers, a 8.1GB game getting 349MB peak

[rocky badge]

?

[sage crow]

the same stands for transfers over lan

[peak cloak]

well duh, a bigger file will take longer

but the rate of download will be the same

[sage crow]

dude thats legit what i was saying lol

[peak cloak]

.

the speed stays the same

the total time will change, but the rate of download will generally be the same/similar

[sage crow]

yes the speed of the download lol

Oh i thought he was referring to the general time the download was being done

[fast gulch]

my mobo has gigabit lan from what it says, lemme check my cables incase thats limiting it

[sage crow]

Several things can influence your speeds, Quality of ethernet/wifi , quality of modem/routing device, and the quality of the device you're using to process the data.

[fast gulch]

i mean idek if my powerline is capable so i need to find that out still lmao

[sage crow]

do a lan speed test

or use iperf

[fast gulch]

which one?

[sage crow]

Idk try both I'm on linux so

[fast gulch]

apparently i got that as a result

[peak cloak]

to where?

to use iperf you need to install it on 2 devices

one acts as the server, other is client

[fast gulch]

idk this isnt iperf, i dont understand it and even tho i have it downloaded, it opens but instantly closes

[peak cloak]

it's cli only

but you don't really need it

but I'm really sure it's your powerline, those are often always the culprit

what model are they also?

[fast gulch]

TP-LINK TL-PA4010P KIT Passthrough Powerline 600 Starter Kit

oh i think i finally found it

looks like 10/100

[peak cloak]

yep..

and powerline in general isn't great

[fast gulch]

i have a wifi extender i can switch to, need to check thats limitations also

alr my wifi extender does 300Mbps

interesting. switched over to a different cable and the wifi extender and exact same, got 85Mbps up and 58Mbps down so im confused

[peak cloak]

wifi also isn't great

[fast gulch]

its the only way i can get wifi, not allowed to run cable all the way round the house just to my room

just seems my link speed is limited to 100/100 so idk

router is capable as have fibre broadband so 🤷‍♂️

[sage crow]

then your defo not gonna get full gig speeds lol

not through wifi

especially if its across your house

[fast gulch]

idk what to do then, trying all sorts of things to get it to change but nothing at all

and its not like i can just go drilling holes around the house, just a waste of money at that point spending about £25+ on a cable that might not even work and then having random holes in the wall

[storm ravine]

I was wondering whether it is possible to have an access point also function as a nas at the same time and if so how?

[thick minnow]

what is the /8 /4 /0 thing called so i can look it up and see what i need

[pseudo blade]

/8 /4 /0? My best guess is CIDR notation.

[thick minnow]

you're right, that will be very useful to know https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing

[obtuse dragon]

Depending on the access point technically yes but it's unlikely to be a good experience.

[wise aurora]

What’s the best Wi-Fi extender for gaming/streaming to increase the wifi to other side of the house

[primal ice]

ethernet cable.

[peak cloak]

Followed by moca

[wise aurora]

Is there any adapters that have Ethernet attachable to the socket?

[high needle]

Anyone here gone the unifi route from ac68u? Heavily debating switching the ac68u as it very occasionally drops transmit power and had it randomly corrupt its wireless settings at one point, whats the range like (am looking at a U6 pro)

Like the idea of the protect cameras, locally stored footage etc, plus want to get into more advanced networking gear, especially when we have FTTP right around the corner

Have no major issues with the range of the ac68u, it doesnt reach garage but it has to go through like 2-3 brick walls and the garage is a fair distance away so im prepared to wire a 2nd AP there

I was also debating the U6 LR, but looking online there doesnt seem to be much difference between the two range wise? Even ubiquitis own design center doesnt show much added range at all with my house layout

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @peak cloak

I like this Aruba switch more than the Extreme switches

But I’d rather have Cisco :(

[hollow marlin]

You spelled Juniper wrong

[rocky badge]

Lol

[clear igloo]

Dude you're getting a Dell?!?!

[rocky badge]

Lol

[pseudo blade]

It's not an especially popular use case, most people do that with their router instead if they're two different devices. Mikrotik can do it but it kinda stinks (idk if ROSE-storage helps but it's supposed to if you buy ARM - but it's brand new), OpenWRT, OpenSense can do it with wrangling.

You can also buy routers intended to do this with drive bays and everything though opinion on using them tends to be mixed

Beats one hard drive over USB though

[thick minnow]

can someone help me im having a problem with my internet

[pseudo blade]

#1027757333117415424

[outer cradle]

here's something I want to share
for some dumb reason, my modem only supports forwarding up to 9 ports
so I'm stuck with my old modem to router setup on my new setup as well
I just dmz the router's ip and forward the ports through there... so it ends up being a pseudo-dmz

[waxen scroll]

not nexus 9k

unless you like outages from bizarre bugs

[waxen scroll]

you made them leave the discord lol

come on

[clear igloo]

@rocky badge @waxen scroll pfBlocker list got updated very recently to block 224.0.0.0/3
I reloaded my firewall probably just before the update went took hold
Spent far too long wondering why OSPF was bouncing every minute or so before I realized that was being blocked on the LAN side
x.x

[rocky badge]

The 4th cage nut broke

[hidden meteor]

Is this the right chat to ask how to port forward a Minecraft server?

[pseudo blade]

No, #1027757333117415424

Or just look it up/play around or some combination of all of the aforementioned

[hidden meteor]

Okay thanks

[waxen scroll]

I need an enterprise networking discord

lurick probably in some good ones

[pseudo blade]

I'm all ears if there's any worth joining

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin pls 2 tell networking discord

if "cisco" is it, fine. but surely theres better

[clear igloo]

I don't know of any 😦

[waxen scroll]

are you seriously not in any network discord?

I feel like you out of anyone here would be

[clear igloo]

I am not

[pseudo blade]

Tbf I think most networking people are only good at one type or the other of networking :P

Good with people or routing+switching? pick one

[hollow marlin]

The only one I ran across is the Cisco Study Group. Others I heard of in podcast are entirely Slack groups

[waxen scroll]

Gross. Imagine using slack in 2023

[pseudo blade]

It's fine for business chat, I prefer it to Teams

[waxen scroll]

Teams "team" feature is awful

The chat is ok

[rare idol]

On my computer certain things act like there isn't a internet connection but I can go to google ex: A self-hosted discord bot, and Discord. I already tried a windows update and a network reset non of them fixed it and I don't want to lose any data at all including installed programs from the internet.

Also I am on windows 10 21H2

[gilded ice]

i went on vacation and ive come back and my network is bad

i have a home mesh system and the speed is just slow

the bandwidth isn't being used up

it's just capping or something

when i run speed tests i get like 30 down 15 up. if i connect to the router i get 100 down 15 up

the deco app can test the internet speed and it gets 100

[opal cape]

maybe try a different channel

[gilded ice]

so the issue is the deco router not allowing the devices to fully use the download

[gilded ice]

wdym

it's not the wifi

[opal cape]

oh this is ethernet?

[gilded ice]

my pc is wired and it has the same issue

[opal cape]

my bad

[gilded ice]

but the wifi has the same issue

[peak cloak]

Reboot the router

[gilded ice]

have

it does seem to be splitting the bandwidth between devices

so for example i get like 30-40 on a speed test

run 2 at once now i get 20 and 20

[opal cape]

sounds like something related to it not being in a switch mode? like those old school hubs

[gilded ice]

rn it's in wi-fi router mode

should i set it to access point

[rare idol]

I still need help with this btw

[gilded ice]

uuuummmmm

better... i got 60 down now

oh but my phone got 100

ok maybe we good now

[lavish hollow]

reboots often help speed issues

[cunning violet]

Anyone here have strong prefs on home AP setups?

omada vs unifi? Looking at plans it looks like unifi is free for home use (monthly wise)

[gilded ice]

i set to AP and the speed is very fast however my pc still doesn't get 100 down

it is faster than before but still 50%-75% of what it should be

meanwhile one of my mesh points was doing 10 down for some reason

[south mulch]

is this normal for wifi?

I know pretty much nothing about networking

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @peak cloak

10/10

[south mulch]

Nice wall

10/10

[nova furnace]

lets say it depends on your country

in germany this would be very good

[rare idol]

still having the same problem after a update to 22H2

[south mulch]

Would you happen to know anything about if it is good in the US?

[nova furnace]

The average in the US is 42.86Mbps you have over 600 so yeah, its good

[south mulch]

oh

zamn

[rare idol]

Does anyone know what I can do as updating windows twice didn't work

[unborn sluice]

don't

[rare idol]

Don't what?

@unborn sluice

[soft wolf]

That is the uplink for the cctv

[soft wolf]

And it is still working to this day

[soft wolf]

That is part of the shielding I think

[sage crow]

still would replace lol. the price of ethernet cable is very cheap

[soft wolf]

I got it for £22 on Amazon

My camera is still online so it must be working

[sage crow]

i just bought 200ft of cat 6 for $30

[soft wolf]

30quid

Where from

[sage crow]

amazon

[soft wolf]

Oh ok how much shipping

I just realised it’s 4am

[sage crow]

free i have amazon prime

[soft wolf]

Ok same

Is it outdoor shielding

[sage crow]

yea

[soft wolf]

Ok wow

[sage crow]

says it is anyway

[soft wolf]

Is it in us money or pounds

[sage crow]

US

https://a.co/d/84WB43d

mine was cheaper then this idk why

[soft wolf]

Ew no this is a flat cable

[pseudo blade]

According to whom? Ookla says it's 198.17 down 22.89 up

[sage crow]

whats wrong w flat cable lol

[nova furnace]

really ?

[sage crow]

its more flexible and less susceptible to breaking

[nova furnace]

just did a quick googling

[pseudo blade]

https://www.speedtest.net/global-index/united-states#fixed

[soft wolf]

They are rubbish and terrible to cable manage and belong in the bin

[sage crow]

I use only flat ethernet cables and have no issues w them lol

[soft wolf]

Ok

[pseudo blade]

Never heard of them and Ookla/speedtest.net's as big as they get for speedtests.

[nova furnace]

yeah but i guess we can agree that 600 mbps is enough

[soft wolf]

I tried mounting a camera with a flat cable and wouldn’t go through the socket

[nova furnace]

just shows that you should double check your sources

ot better said I

[sage crow]

idk what to tell you lol i have ip cameras at my house w flat cables

[soft wolf]

Ok

[sage crow]

The only round cable i have is a cat 5e from years ago that still works

[soft wolf]

Flat Ethernet cables are good for going under the carpet where you can’t see it it can hide well that bit is good innit

[sage crow]

I run all mine under the house and bring it through the floor

[soft wolf]

Mine just go through the walls from the loft where the router is

Why is the router in the loft that is wierd

[sage crow]

ye I just put the 200ft cable from the router, under the house through cinder block and underground pipe into the garage haha. its running in the same pipe as 220 power wire

[soft wolf]

In my old house I couldn’t be bothered to run any wires so I used powerline

[sage crow]

I have an old phone system in the walls but it'd be baset 100 which is to slow for me so

[soft wolf]

My internet comes through dsl lol this house is old

[sage crow]

I just run it through the crawl space into the corners of each room

Yea i've got fiber

[soft wolf]

Lucky the most I’ve got from my internet is 80mbps

[sage crow]

i get around 200ish down and 170 up

[soft wolf]

My service provider is EE they are terrible

Do you live in America

[sage crow]

We've had ours for ab 6-7 years now before that we had 25mbps cable internet for years

Yea

[soft wolf]

What is cable

[sage crow]

Internet over coax only

[soft wolf]

Like coax the only coax in my house is the satellite dish and tv aerial

[sage crow]

no fiber

[soft wolf]

Is tv cable too

[sage crow]

yea thats what im talking ab

it typically comes with satelite tv packages and stuff

[soft wolf]

Oh I just have a log periodic on the roof for Freeview tv

[soft wolf]

That’s cool I don’t think we have that im my country

[sage crow]

ye luckily we got faster internet in my area tho i'd lose my mind if my internet was still that slow

[soft wolf]

I just get used to slow internet

[sage crow]

not me lol i've had fast internet for too long now lol

[soft wolf]

Do you have over the air tv

[loud bay]

whats not wrong with a flat cable

[sage crow]

nah i don't even watch tv tbh

[soft wolf]

I like bbc news at 10 that is all I watch

[sage crow]

Yea lol i do all my streaming from phone or pc

[soft wolf]

Oh ok do you like bbc news at 10

[sage crow]

We don't have that in the US lol

[soft wolf]

Oh ok

What time is it in the us

Have you ever been to Asda

[sage crow]

Nah

its 12 am

[soft wolf]

It’s 5:02 here

What state is you

In

[sage crow]

Askin alot of questions lol

[soft wolf]

I’m bored

[soft wolf]

This cable is not broken yet

[gilded ice]

this makes me so mad

i managed to fix the speed for all devices except for my pc

both ethernet and wifi

speeds are random

anywhere from 20-70

[rare idol]

Anyone able to help please

[opal pagoda]

this isnt tech support channel
go to #1027757333117415424

[rare idol]

But the issue has to do with networking so it would go here

[rare idol]

I was talking about this message which has to do with networking

@opal pagoda

[opal pagoda]

read channel description

[rare idol]

Then the channel name is misleading it should be network-equipment instead

[pseudo blade]

Argue all you like but it's not going to make this a channel for Windows Update support

[peak cloak]

No basic tech support

[unique bloom]

Hey guys, I am not sure how basic this is but essentially I just wasted a lot of time breaking my head on why even with forwarded ports and the needed ports open on my PC, I still couldn't access PUBLIC_IP:PORT and therefor unable to use my DDNS... Turns out my router doesn't have NAT Loopback support (I just learned what that is). This is the most locked up router possible, to even change settings on it I need to login on my IPS stupid website. Would disabling WIFI and buying a new router that connects to that one solve the situation or is there another possible gotcha that would prevent this from working?

[peak cloak]

Natloop back just allows that from your own network, you should still be able to access from external

[unique bloom]

Yeah but it is not a really great experience to have to use different addresses for a service while on the Internal network and the External

[waxen saddle]

Set up pihole or adguard as your internal DNS. Then add your public ddns url and map it to the LAN IP of your server.

[unique bloom]

My router also doesn't allow changing DNS, so I would have to change the DNS provider for every device in my Network... Doable but annoying, that is why I mentioned adding a DHCP + DNS/PiHole in front of the router

I think I might have stumbled on a solution that doesn't involve that? I have a spare VPS and I think I could set it up as a DNS and route it based on incoming request IP

https://serverfault.com/questions/332440/dns-bind-how-to-return-a-different-ip-based-on-requests-subnet

Sounds complicated but at least I don't have to spend any money right now (additional that is)

You know, it is funny that my Router allows port forwarding, DMZ and has DDNS builtin support... But on the other hand it doesn't allow changing DNS and doesn't have NAT Loopback

Real bruh moment if you ask me

[sage crow]

sounds like a good time to get a new router

[unique bloom]

Amen

[clear igloo]

The question is does your ISP's box support "passthrough" or "bridge" mode?

or can you outright replace their router?

[unique bloom]

It does, at least it does do that

This is the interface, in "Mais" which means more, there is essentially nothing, everything is read only, aside from the options on the bottom, you can really only configure wifi stuff

It is so bare bones

[clear igloo]

then own router time 😄

[waxen scroll]

????

[pseudo blade]

If they have bridge mode they can put a different router behind it, perhaps one that doesn't have that problem

[sonic notch]

Hey y'all, is there any easy way to mount an S3-compatible bucket to Windows?

I saw S3FS but it requires compilation

What I'm trying to do is migrate from CrashPlan to Wasabi but unfortunately their zip downloads are limited to 250 MB and the only way to do more is by restoring through their app

[peak cloak]

Do you need to mount it?

Or do you just need to access?

[sonic notch]

With my current plan, yes. I need to mount it as a drive letter

[peak cloak]

So with mounting it looks like not really. Complication doesn't look too difficult

[sonic notch]

Alternatively, I can download a backup set from Crashplan then have Kopia (my backup tool) to upload it to Wasabi

But idk if I have enough disk space to do it all at once

[sonic notch]

This is an issue b/c CrashPlan will delete anything more than 90 days old

[peak cloak]

There are other options like Amazon EFS with efx which is the officially supported way

But $$$

[sonic notch]

Yeah that's why I wanna stay away from AWS xd

[pseudo blade]

Just use WinSCP to copy your stuff, it has an S3 client.
S3's not a block filesystem and treating it like one gives poor results.

[peak cloak]

^

[sonic notch]

I mean WinSCP is no different from having them downloaded to my drive anyway

[pseudo blade]

No idea what you mean by that

[sonic notch]

So basically my plan if I couldn't mount my bucket was to download my files and upload them to my Wasabi bucket using Kopia

[nimble sable]

Is buying an AP better than buying a router with the same advertised capabilities and running it in AP mode? E.g Archer axe75 vs am axe5400 wifi AP

[sonic notch]

I would say probably

[peak cloak]

APs are usually cheaper for the same wifi capabilities

[nimble sable]

That's not even close to being true. Axe75 is like $300. The closest access point i could find is axe7800 which is like$500

[pseudo blade]

The strict answer to your question is "no" though it's always going to depend on your use case and vendor choice

[nimble sable]

6e access points are super rare. 6e routers are dime a dozen

[pseudo blade]

I have no idea with tplink archer stuff, I don't like it much

[nimble sable]

I don't either tbh.

[peak cloak]

asus AP

and that's not an ap

it's a router

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-EAP610-Business-Wireless-Integrated/dp/B09G5H4XS2
$100

[pseudo blade]

Pure APs are usually cheaper like-for-like.

[nimble sable]

So is Asus. That's my point. It's all routers

[nimble sable]

No e

[nimble sable]

Are they? Show me a pure AP with 6e for $300

[pseudo blade]

I don't need to show you jackshit, have a nice day

[peak cloak]

from what I hear some manufacturs are skipping 6e and waiting for 7