networking

[thick minnow]

im talking about rj45 to sfp conversion

[meager ginkgo]

Looks like $600 🤯

[thick minnow]

i could just get a switch with sfp for less lol

[drowsy fossil]

yea that is what those media converters are basically

2 port switch

[meager ginkgo]

you would need an sfp+ switch for 10 gig

[thick minnow]

im trying to keep this relatively cheap though

I may just stay with gigabit for now

[drowsy fossil]

the most basic of sfp+ switches is over 100 and you would need two of them

[thick minnow]

yeah

hm

[meager ginkgo]

On another note look at the horrible bend / install AT&T did with my fiber

[thick minnow]

would i even really lose anything if I just used a 100ft cat6a cable?

[drowsy fossil]

you would lose out on bragging rights lel

[thick minnow]

this is true

[meager ginkgo]

and less bandwidth

but still plenty today

[thick minnow]

i dont need 100gbit

[drowsy fossil]

we have already determined thats incorrect lel

at least not at a remotely similar price

[meager ginkgo]

I'd be worried about interference also with ethernet

[thick minnow]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HEM653S?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp_KJ20H703Z842Z58REP0F&th=1 so i could just buy one of these

[drowsy fossil]

thats why you buy nice overkill shielded cable

[meager ginkgo]

I suppose like I said it could always be ripped out in the future, so why not then

[drowsy fossil]

but here at my work we have bundles of cat 5e routed alongside power cables without issue

[meager ginkgo]

parallel?

[drowsy fossil]

yep

[meager ginkgo]

is it a short distance or ?

[thick minnow]

im doing short distance too

[drowsy fossil]

our conduit is presumeably larger than biggies'

[thick minnow]

me and my dad need to dig up the conduit anyways because its broken

[drowsy fossil]

the runs total lengths are often around 150 feet max

[thick minnow]

where it surfaces, its broken by the bend

and my dad is an electrician lol

so dont worry

[drowsy fossil]

you can ask him if he thinks the interference can pass through the shielding of the cable

[thick minnow]

he doesnt even really wanna do it lol

[drowsy fossil]

running conduit is never that fun

[thick minnow]

thats true

there is existing conduit it just needs to be replaced

but we need to dig it out 🙄

[drowsy fossil]

could splurge and buy some direct burial fiber and throw it next to the conduit

[thick minnow]

nah

im 15 lol i dont have much money, and the money i do spend goes into my pc

and i just spent like 4 months working my ass off to get the money to custom watercool my pc

[drowsy fossil]

you dont have $190 to spend on a single multimode cable?

dang direct burial cable is expensive lel

[thick minnow]

right now I don't even have $50

[drowsy fossil]

you wont be able to get all the equipment for a new gigabit fiber run with $50

[thick minnow]

lol

[void pumice]

I have the NETGEAR C7000, which is a modem/router but the Wi-Fi sucks. Can I use an extender or do I need a separate router? My apartment is really small, so I'd prefer not to spend a lot. And I'm open to any specific recommendations

[opal pagoda]

sucks in what way?
can you run wifi analyser and check if there is lot of interference

[autumn swan]

Hey, I have a specific problem with my Google Wifi mesh. I have my main router downstairs with Google Wifi connected to it (I have all my devices connected to the Google WiFi for compatibilities between my devices/smart home), I also run an ethernet cable upstairs to my main work station to get the full speed, I want to connect that ethernet cable to my upstairs Google router as input as well to make my wifi speed faster upstairs, but it looks like they don't like to have 2 routers with 2 inputs (which makes sense I guess) I wonder if there is any way around this, I would like to have a high consistant speed throughout the house being on the same wifi network, for example if my TV would be connected to main router and my laptop to Google Wifi, I can't screenshare without having to switch networks on my laptop.

[faint bronze]

Small apartments do not need more things generating wifi. The usual problem with wifi in apartments is that there are so many wifi devices packed so densely and everyone has their own AP. This is like trying to have 20 conversations in one tiny room. The more common problem is wifi AP's talking over each other or waiting to talk. This might be the problem. How many other AP's are there in the area? Are you using 2.4ghz or 5ghz?

[autumn swan]

I'm in a fairly big house with 3 Google wifi routers and my main ISP router (the 2.4/5ghz are all automatic, I haven't touched it)

[void pumice]

If you're replying to me, I'm using 5ghz. My phone and smart tv are the only devices on wifi

[void pumice]

My speeds are good on Ethernet, but when I'm 15 feet from my router in my bedroom, it gets bad. When I FaceTime people, they tell me it freezes a lot, but I can see them fine. So it must be my upload speed that is bad

[opal pagoda]

can you install wifi analyser app and check ap congestion?

[void pumice]

What type of app? I just tried a few that didn't have congestion

[karmic musk]

Guys my computer wont renew the wifi lease, any way to fix that?

[opal pagoda]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer&hl=en&gl=US
and send screenshot of 2.4g band and 5ghz band
it will look something like this

[void pumice]

I'm on iOS, does the AirPort Utility app work? It lists nearby networks and their dBm rating in order

[opal pagoda]

does it list channel they are on?

[void pumice]

Yes, my wifi networks are on channel 157

[opal pagoda]

what about 2.4g?

[void pumice]

Only if it's in the name of the network. Do you mean 2.4 vs 5ghz?

[hard arch]

r7000 died after 9 years so getting an asus ac88u
small upgrade

[hard arch]

the old r7000 (ignore the pico it was used to enable tftp so i could atempt to reflash fw and hopefuly fix it)

time to swap this out

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @peak cloak I love linus network security

The entire network is a flat /24

[hard arch]

new router came dead (blown internal fuse) easy fix and works now

[hollow marlin]

I haven't seen their video yet but a recent WAN stream they said "they have their own network engineer now"... If that is true....

[rocky badge]

OH GOD

I hope they’re paying a pretty penny on them

Because if they aren’t, I doubt any network engineer wants to fix their network for cheap…

They are probably using so many statics on their office /16 with devices pointing to static IPs for network shares, remote access, synchronization, etc.

I wonder if they even use DHCP reservations or just set stuff to use a static in the /16 range

And iirc they are extending that /16 to the 2 other offices

[hard arch]

each room of my house is its own subnet lol

[nimble sable]

Wow, why?

[nimble sable]

What's wrong with static ips btw?

[hard arch]

im just a masochist towards myself

[nimble sable]

I actually just recently split out my iot into it's own subnet... Was easier than i thought it was but had some weird issues along the way

[rocky badge]

I usually use DHCP for everything

Everything is done with DHCP reservations

[hard arch]

i host game servers so static ip are best

[nimble sable]

Ooh yes ok. I was conflating the two. I think the only time I've used static IP was when i was having weird issues with my server and dhclient

[peak cloak]

pretty impractical, since many applications only work within a L2 domain

[peak cloak]

problem with static is IP conflicts, so it's much more effort to manage IPs, dhcp reservation imo is much simplier

[hard arch]

also anyone know the asus router ui

trying to find options to change the 192.168.1.x to 192.168.0.x

[nimble sable]

Ooh that makes sense

[peak cloak]

no clue, but it may be possible it's not even an option

[hard arch]

carnt find option to change 1.x to 0.x
so just open port 80 to new router
then to web server
works but bit of a pain to have to do for every port

[peak cloak]

I assume you are double nating?..

For every single router, in every room...

[glacial linden]

does cloudflare domain allow proxying IPv6 to IPv4-only hosts beside HTTP/HTTPS traffic? Because my phone is able to connect to my OpenVPN server at home (ipv4 only, static) over some ipv6 address which I'm assuming is cloudflare proxying my traffic... Nice to have

[peak cloak]

No?

[glacial linden]

ik that's what I read but I'm confused as well... it's working and I can even connect to all my local devices/etc at home over mobile data from phone

wireguard only uses ipv4 however... no idea how this is working

Instead of ipv4, I used domain name in openvpn and wireguard client configs

[gloomy flicker]

Hey, I moved to fiber recently and received a router/modem with the SFP built. There is an activation process for the SFP SN.
I bought this unit:
https://www.batna24.com/en/p/zte-zxa10-f601-ont-skeio

And there is an option in the router settings to change the SN, I'm wondering, if I'll change the SN of this new unit to the SN of my current SFP unit, will it work straight away without having to activate it?

I also see that there is a SN password, so not really sure what that means and if both are needed for this as I know that activation requires only the SN.

[opal pagoda]

if you want to use your own router just put old router/modem box into bridge mode

[gloomy flicker]

I'll need to pay for that extra, which is why I'm replacing that.

[waxen scroll]

they used to have one before they made everything flat

[waxen scroll]

its been leaked that linus does not pay well unless you're inner circle

[opal pagoda]

ah, isp is making you "rent" that box?

[gloomy flicker]

Yep 🙂

[waxen scroll]

we're talking like 35k CAD in a VHCOL area

considering how small their network is I dont see a neteng there getting market pay

[opal pagoda]

well i dont see a reason not to use your own equipment
you shouldnt need to do any spoofing

[rocky badge]

Someone should tap their fiber

[waxen scroll]

you remember all those teslas he showed that his staff drive? it was all management

[gloomy flicker]

I can call them so they will activate my new SFP and then just connect everything through it, but that means that if I do that my current SFP is deactivated, so just trying to keep my options open in case for whatever reason it won't work, I'll have an easy fallback 🙂

[opal pagoda]

well what would stop you from calling again to have old one activated

[gloomy flicker]

Only the time until they pick up the phone XD

[hard arch]

unfortnetly carnt seem to find an ap mode setting in this new router (asus dsl-ac88u)

[drowsy fossil]

generally they call it bridge mode

are you using it with the dsl port or the wan port?

[hard arch]

wan port

idc about the dsl port lol
only got this one coz it was £20 and dident work
just needed a new internal fuse

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo 😩

I forgot how clean my 5GHz is at home

[hard arch]

wonder how bad my area is

well guess im moving chanles

[idle tapir]

I learned how to make Coax cables

[hard arch]

dam ps4 be slow

[distant wedge]

I hate BNC

Who hurt you enough to teach you how to make those

[idle tapir]

My work

[drowsy fossil]

bnc>>>>screw terminals for coax

[hard arch]

can think of worse connectors

also have a cursed cable
rj11 to rj45

[drowsy fossil]

its for patching a phone line into a rj45 patch panel

we do it alot at my work to avoid having to do anything when replacing copper phone lines with an ip phone system

[hard arch]

got board so made it lol

pain to get the 2 wires lined up in the rj45

[drowsy fossil]

ours use 2 pair

[hard arch]

wanna remake a cable like this just to test it lol

also made short cable coz lol

it also works lol

[frosty lodge]

Ohhhhhh no, calm down satan, this is scary

[hard arch]

568a na
568b na
wtf is that layout a hell ye

[frosty lodge]

if you make this cable and test it, please, please keep up updated

[hard arch]

idfk where to start lol

ill stick to the must do short ethernet cable that everyone with ethernet crimping tools has to make

[frosty lodge]

you're beginning in that field ?

[hard arch]

ye

even tho most i ever have to do is change passwords atm

[frosty lodge]

well, rest assured, making cables is not really hard and will get easier, just need to remember the colors and you're golden

[hard arch]

i will always forget the order lol

~~and sometimes what i used on other end if it was a or b ~~

[frosty lodge]

Well, depends but usually you want to make straight cables

[hard arch]

it is so mutch cheaper to just buy a real of cat5e and crimp tools than it is to buy pre made cables

[frosty lodge]

yep, wood for example
you can get a stere of firewood for 50 bucks or get a trunk for 20, and the trunk will be cheaper because there are no processing costs

[hard arch]

and who needs an ethernet tester
just grab a laptop and a router and you all set to test lol

[frosty lodge]

yeah, for most use cases
but if it's for a test or a client you need a tester

[hard arch]

meh a few led and a battery it be good enught lol

ye i need to get a tester but meh latop to router is fineeeee

[peak cloak]

If actually doing runs a certifier is crucial

Using laptop is a pita. A certifier will tell you a cable run can do so and so speed

[crystal oriole]

You can make it smaller.

[hard arch]

ye but for home use my old ass powerbook is fine lol

[hard arch]

remove the boots

[crystal oriole]

exactly

we did one with just the plastic plugs "ass-to-ass" way back in school like 17 years ago

[hard arch]

na need the boots lol

[crystal oriole]

I mean it worked, but was useless

[hard arch]

dont wanna brake off that tab lol

[crystal oriole]

i am slightly tempted to do something that dumb with some M12 connectors at work next week

[frosty lodge]

ohhhh what'd you come up with 👀

[hard arch]

poe cable

[frosty lodge]

[frosty lodge]

I've worked in it for a tiny while, but yes, that's what some clients expect when you tell them what poe is

[hard arch]

you hurd of usb killer now get reddy for eth killer

[rocky badge]

BNC is nice tho 😳

[distant wedge]

lemme just create a bunch of wireless antennas in a closed space for u hehe

[rocky badge]

No antenna farming

[distant wedge]

yes antenna farming

[hard arch]

tfw the biggest limit to getting 1gbps wifi is sdio

[drowsy fossil]

What

[hard arch]

and pcie 2 wifi cards

[drowsy fossil]

No wifi card capable of a gigabit is on pcie 2

[hard arch]

ik

500mbps max iirc

[drowsy fossil]

MB

At least for pcie

Pcie 3.0x2 = 2GB/s =16gbps

[hard arch]

best wifi card i got is the steamdeck and thats still pcie 2

[drowsy fossil]

Pcie 2.0x2= 1GB/s = 8gbps

[hard arch]

and phones max i can get is 200mbps
near limits of sdio

[drowsy fossil]

No

[rocky badge]

WiFi is ✨ a Shared Access Medium ✨

I am pulling 500Mbps from my iPhone right now on 2x2 802.11AC

I can easily do 800Mbps+ from 6

[frosty lodge]

why would you need these speeds over wifi
just asking

[hard arch]

bragging

[drowsy fossil]

Downloading videos when leaving for a trip is my most recent need

[clear igloo]

not everyone and everything can be tethered down with a cable

[hard arch]

just you watch

i will try to connect everything to ethernet

[clear igloo]

good for you, I'm so glad you speak for the average consumer 🙂

[rocky badge]

Everything (home/client wise) is WiFi except my laptop dock & desktop

[frosty lodge]

haha that makes sense

[clear igloo]

There are good uses, VR and other tech over wireless is going to increase throughput needs to reduce the need for wires. Lower latency over 6E and up also helps remove the need to wire everything

[rocky badge]

phones, iPads, laptops, etc are all WiFi

[drowsy fossil]

^
i maximize wired stuff as much as possible but there are so many devices

[hard arch]

i will conect my vita to ethernet if i could get a ethernet adapter lol

[drowsy fossil]

i actually do connect my phone to ethernet lel
i have a dock next to my bed that i use for charging and i just wired it up for the lulz

[rocky badge]

my desktop

[hard arch]

lol

[rocky badge]

I get 600Mbps over it

[hard arch]

ill get my old psp devkit out just to have an ethernet connected psp lol

[rocky badge]

PCIE is probably never the bottleneck for a wifi card, its 99% the wireless signal it is getting

[clear igloo]

but you know what is a bottleneck? Sitting through this segue to our sponsor!

[hard arch]

atlest i still have nice ethernet speeds lol

[drowsy fossil]

thats uh
pretty normal

[hard arch]

ik

[rocky badge]

gigabit nice

@clear igloo Do you wanna know what pisses me off with clients

[clear igloo]

the people that use them?

[rocky badge]

"waaaa waaa my primary DNS given to me by DHCP is down, my internet is offline"

"I am going to ignore the second DNS server given by DHCP"

[hard arch]

isp dns is worst dns

[clear igloo]

oh yah, I hate that crap, why even have a secondary DNS if the client wont use it

[rocky badge]

ALL of my google homes think they have NO internet

even though secondary DNS is up

[clear igloo]

sounds like you need a load balancer 😄

[hard arch]

my old isp wouldent let you change the dns without editing the router backup file

[rocky badge]

I want to do it on my router

but I'm not sure I can in its current operating mode

[hard arch]

also router was missing very very basic features

[rocky badge]

https://docs.fortinet.com/document/fortigate/6.2.12/cookbook/713497/virtual-server

[hard arch]

couldent set static ip
couldent open more than 4 ports
no modem mode
only 2 ethernet ports 10/100 speed

just a few of the things bad with it

[drowsy fossil]

do they have appliances?

[rocky badge]

its on the actual fortigate

[drowsy fossil]

oh wow im just bad at google

[hard arch]

couldent even swap it out to a diffrent modem coz every week it be blocked

one day it worked next no intenet
nothing changed
still same login settings and mac address being spoofed

hate isp that make it a must to use there stuff that hardly works

[drowsy fossil]

in the us its a legal requirement that you at least not be required to pay for the equipment, so hopefully you arent paying for it 🤷

[hard arch]

nope not paying

isp pulling some bs saying if you damage it then you gotta pay £300 for a new one as "thats the costs for them new"

its also normal for it to run at 90c-100c according to isp

[drowsy fossil]

would you say that fortigate is a reasonable alternative to the netgate appliances for a home setting?
specifically a home setting wanting ipds

[drowsy fossil]

aaaaand their ipds is a subscription
no thanks

[rocky badge]

not really lol

i just want it

[drowsy fossil]

sad
i saw under 500 for gigabit ipds and got excited

[rocky badge]

I just really like fortios

the dashboards & all of the features in fortios

[drowsy fossil]

its pretty neat
but subscription for home 🤢

[rocky badge]

eh, I'm not paying for any subscriptions.

As I'm not using IPS/IDS

[drowsy fossil]

ye but i figure if im buying a new router, it should have it

[rocky badge]

I never really used it on my old router either

[drowsy fossil]

fair enough, but i want it

prolly just gonna throw pfsense on my old pc

it has dual intel nics should be fine 🤞

[rocky badge]

I was using pfSense 2 routers before but got rid of it because of power usage lol

my current router only consumes like 7W

yay firewall ASIC

[drowsy fossil]

yea :/

[rocky badge]

I was using a UDMP before this router and just hated it lol

[drowsy fossil]

oh?
that was gonna be my second choice if i didnt like my pc with pfsense
what gripes?

[rocky badge]

firewall features

fortigate

unifi

unifi is just very lacking lol

[drowsy fossil]

ah

yea i let nothing through besides upnp

cloudflare tunnels ftw

[rocky badge]

traffic rules is somewhat layer 7-ish

I don't allow anything in except SSH (limited)

HTTPS is via tunnels

UDMP doesn't even have SNMP

[drowsy fossil]

yea thats fine by me

[rocky badge]

DHCP is a pita on unifi

as you can't directly see DHCP leases

[drowsy fossil]

also not a problem

[rocky badge]

if the lease exists and the device is out of the arp table you can't see leases

nor can you revoke any leases

VPN options on the UDMP are also lack luster

[drowsy fossil]

👍 also fine

[rocky badge]

• WireGuard through their proprietary "Teleport VPN"
• OpenVPN
• L2TP

IPSec S2S is also dogshit on the UDMP

[drowsy fossil]

definetly not a problem
wont be recommending it at work tho lel

[rocky badge]

the UDMP is ok imo if your network is just a few basic VLANs with barely anything else (including firewalls)

because it is also default allow not default deny

[drowsy fossil]

dont even know if ill need vlans

[rocky badge]

the part that pushed me over the edge with my UDMP was it was dropping packets randomly going out to WAN

[drowsy fossil]

guest wifi will probably have double nat issues but idgaf

[rocky badge]

and idfk if it was my UDMP or something I configured weirdly but I didn't feel like troubleshooting it, nor does it happen at other clients

but I was like "fuck this router, new router time"

[drowsy fossil]

hmm

[rocky badge]

I have my old one sitting here as a "blowup if I need to test something for a client"

[drowsy fossil]

ayy chromecast audio

[drowsy fossil]

my chromecast audio is a regular chromecast with an hdmi audio splitter because they are now $70 on ebay

[rocky badge]

but it does pain me to have a $380 router just sitting here

but my current network stuff

[drowsy fossil]

eh my computer im planning on using for pfsense cost me more than that for the cpu alone

very prettay

[rocky badge]

WAN is through a SD-WAN zone on fortigate that takes wan 1 and wan 2 and latency monitors it

latency monitor against 1.1.1.1 & 8.8.8.8

best ping to both is primary WAN

[drowsy fossil]

while im thinking of it, do you know of any switches with 2 qsfp28 ports that are super cheap
like cheaper than the crs504?

[rocky badge]

Probably not if you've already found Mikrotik to be the cheapest lol

I'm still concerned about LMG's fiber between buildings lol

[drowsy fossil]

thing is there are a few switches with trunk ports qsfp28, but i cant find pricing on any of them 😦

[rocky badge]

"ah yes, big brain idea to have our /16 network expand multiple buildings with just fiber between buildings"

"firewall between buildings, what's that?"

[drowsy fossil]

i mean they also have that wireless link?

[rocky badge]

yes which is also that /16 network

which everything is on

[drowsy fossil]

🤷 mitming cwdm4 fiber is tough

[rocky badge]

mikrotik doesn't have macsec

[drowsy fossil]

what is someone gonna do, snip the fiber and splice in their own connection?

[rocky badge]

you could

just having a big /16 isn't "best practice" either

[drowsy fossil]

🤷 i dont think they have powerful enough enemies for that to be a problem

[drowsy fossil]

well true

[rocky badge]

their network is just 100% we don't know what the fuck we're doing

[drowsy fossil]

we have most of our /24s reachable by each other tho anyways

(at work)

[rocky badge]

At least then you can monitor traffic at the router/firewall anyways

and block if need to

[drowsy fossil]

tru

that reminds me, we lost our last network admin bc they plugged in an ethernet cable looping between two vlans and brought down our entire admin site
in their first week

[rocky badge]

L

ngl

Having everything in that closet under the stairs is cringe lol

[drowsy fossil]

It's fiiiiiine

I wonder what the fastest os for acting as a network switch is 🤔

[rocky badge]

a switch chip xd /s

[drowsy fossil]

Yeah but I have a PCIe 2x100g card available...

And also some 2x40g cards

Maybe xcp-ngs built in networking could handle it?

[rocky badge]

At that point wouldn't it be a bridge

with 2 ports

[drowsy fossil]

Well yes?

But I'd also be bridging to the gigabit network

[rocky badge]

and if the nic can hardware accel

ah, ok so then you'd go through CPU then that makes sense

[drowsy fossil]

That's a good point tho

Who gaf if the gigabit has to go through the CPU that's ez

Cause I literally have 2 100g devices
Pc and nas

Everything else is gigabit

And the mikrotik doesn't support rdma already so I want to go as cheap as possible

Heck if I'm using xcpng to bridge, i could host some stuff in there

Later tho
I just got a toy to play with

Different type of switch

[sage crow]

Picked up this bad boy a few months ago for a travel router/vlan vpn for the house and I personally love it.

[torn lance]

Have a slightly different model of it, trying to make it work with my uni dorm. Will see how it pans out.

[sage crow]

I personally love them. I wish they had one that supported a gig speed through the vpn client. If i want that I'd just have to use my old pc. But for the price they're a great buy. LTT needs to do a review on them for sure

[torn lance]

Yeah, other than the issue with this specific network, it's been great.

[sage crow]

What's the issue?

[torn lance]

Seems to be something with enterprise network certificates

[faint bronze]

By any chance is it eduroam?

[sage crow]

I see

[torn lance]

No, it is a uni specific network.

[faint bronze]

Ahh, is it that the cert is a self signed cert? Or does their UI not allow connecting to enterprise?

You could fix the issue if used openwrt or the like...

[torn lance]

I am in the full OpenWRT and am looking for the relevant parameters.

[torn lance]

Just burn all the packets

[rocky badge]

PAs are nice

[torn lance]

My problem would have been solved by an Ethernet jack on the wall. Thanks dorms.

And until I can figure it out, no internet on the projector or Xbox.

[hard arch]

ping go brrrrrr

[peak cloak]

That's annoying

Our dorms have an Ethernet port, one on each side. For each person

[torn lance]

Technically studio, but whatever. But my mini router has worked on every other network I’ve tried except this one.

[pseudo blade]

Adapting to what, what speed

What features are needed

[wintry valley]

i have an adapter that advertises 800mbps, but it only shows as about 4 mbps max? i have the router beside me pc but dont have a ethernet cable.

[opal pagoda]

just get a ethernet cable, they are few $

[hard arch]

ill make you one if you in uk too mutch cat5 laying about i want gone

[tawdry fern]

hey guys, I was messing around with my powerline settings and i was wondering what mode would be the best?

802.11b/g/n is what it is set to currently

[pseudo blade]

Those are WiFi standards and have nothing to do with powerline ethernet

[thick minnow]

dunno if this question fits in here but it's networking related so idc
what is the best and cheapest residential proxy provider?

[rough basin]

Any recommendations for a router/modem? I dont plan on paying the monthly fee for my ISP's.

[opal pagoda]

what kind of modem?
cable, adsl, fiber

[rough basin]

It hooks up via cable

Xfinity supplies a modem router combo but it has a monthly fee that’d cost more in the long run than buying a modem router combo myself

[hard arch]

need wifi?

[sage crow]

I think you mean wifi adapter. And really anything linksys or Netgear really works pretty good most other name brands work too tho

[faint bronze]

It is a DIY router I would guess. It looks like it has 3 adaptors 4 by 4 each.

It could be more performant than those other options.

[rough venture]

Lol so I just installed a new router with my dad, and I finally got a wired connection.

It's somehow significantly worse than wireless though

That makes zero sense to me

[faint bronze]

How are you measuring?

[peak cloak]

If it's 100mpbs it's probably the cable

[faint bronze]

Or interface...

[sage crow]

Network driver*

If your driver is only rated for 100 mbps could be the problem really need more info to be for sure

[rough venture]

By an internet speed test

[rough venture]

It's about 600-700 mbps on wifi and about 400-600 on ethernet

[sage crow]

Could be the quality of the Ethernet cable possibly

[rough venture]

I bought a cat 7 cable

I thought that would be okay

[sage crow]

If you have a super high quality router with 5ghz wifi band and a terribly cheap Ethernet cable that could be the issue

Is it of a reputable brand?

[rough venture]

I'm not sure what brand it was. It was on clearance lol

So maybe that's the problem

I just saw cat 7 and assumed it would be sufficient

There aren't a lot of reputable cable brands to my knowledge anyway. Amazon sells all these goofy Chinese brands

[faint bronze]

Real cat 7 or fake?

[rough venture]

Is there a way to tell?

[faint bronze]

Yes, too expensive cable testers. Another approach would be to use iperf to do a speed test across the link.

[sage crow]

Well I’ve almost always used Belkin tbh so no experience w cheap brands

[rough venture]

Interesting

Yeah, this is just bizarre

The upload latency is a lot higher too

[sage crow]

I would almost say it could be the quality of the cable

[rough venture]

Just tested the cable on my laptop, and my laptop is getting around double the speed my desktop is. So, it's likely not the cable's fault

I hope my network card isn't bad

936.35 download on my laptop and 469.08 on my desktop in the most recent tests

With the same cable and router

My desktop is actually newer than my laptop

[sage crow]

Quiet possible

[faint bronze]

Double check you are using the correct driver. I use Intel's driver with my Intel net card and get line speed, but if I use a lesser driver I get maybe 1/10 the speed.

I think I had a similar situation with my USB network adapter. I can get 2.5gbe, but without the driver I get 100mbe.

[sage crow]

I wanna turn my old HP g56 into a home server but it only has 10/100 ethernet port & usb 2.0 ;.;

[rough venture]

Just uninstalled the drivers and restarted my pc. Not much of a difference in speed.

[gloomy vigil]

any of y'all know where I could sell 2 patch panels

cat5e so 🤷‍♂️

[sage crow]

ebay

[torn lance]

I got my mini router online, but it is jank AF.

[weak pine]

anyone familiar with enabling SR-IOV with mellanox NIC ConnectX-5 in ESXi 6.7?

[sage crow]

How so?

[torn lance]

I bridged the wifi and ethernet connections on my laptop.

[pseudo blade]

Not sure how that relates to the router lol

[torn lance]

Essentially I haven’t yet figured out how to make the router connect to the dorm network directly yet, so I made it “work” until I can fix it properly.

[clear igloo]

It's all fake, if it doesn't user TERA connectors and instead uses 8p8c connectors it's not to spec

[marsh oracle]

How much security do you want?

• Yes!

[wind orbit]

Can anybody help with an issue I'm having with my internet connection? It's technically still working fine but it's not letting me access a lot of websites, including the Ookla website, i can access Facebook, instagram while I can't access to others, like steam, Xbox etc, did anyone else run into this problem?

Also I just had this problem this morning, yesterday evening everything was working fine

[marsh oracle]

I wonder if you have lost your IPv4 address, or IPv6 address, either of those

does the page "myip.is" work for you?
Does it show two IP adresses?

[peak cloak]

well what's the error

[marsh oracle]

Well, looks like no error anymore

[hard arch]

got so annoyed by the clicking relay in the new router i just removed it lol
who need a dsl port anyway

[marsh oracle]

what model is it? I've never seen a DSL router that has a relay inside for switching stuff on the DSL port

[hard arch]

asus dsl-ac88u

[pseudo blade]

I've seen ones with telephony features that had relays but never for DSL

[hard arch]

now im just trying to get this thing to act as an ap

[peak cloak]

You may be able to do so by turning off DHCP and plugging Ethernet into a lan port

[radiant bone]

Looking to get better signal up in the room with poor wifi. For both the smart tv and for phone wifi usage. However, I DON'T wanna have to change to a different wifi on my phone whenever I wander up there.

Not sure if MoCa or Powerline adapters would be best.

The room with poor wifi DOES have ethernet though. Just 1 cable was run from router to the computer up there. So dunno if that could help me in any way.

[torn lance]

First instinct was get a mesh system with ethernet backhaul and use the same SSID and security settings as your old network.

[radiant bone]

Expensive though. Currently got a $300 or so router that works rather well. When within range of course.

[torn lance]

Then maybe a 2nd AP at the ethernet outlet. Your best option in any case is to use the existing ethernet infastructure.

[radiant bone]

The ethernet cable comes into the room at the end, wraps around under the border, and plugs into the computer.
So basically, get another wifi router, plug that ethernet cable into it, and pass through to the computer?

[opal pagoda]

moca can achieve higher speeds

but both would work

[radiant bone]

Like I said, I mainly want it for wifi cause I have a smart tv and whenever I'm on my phone.

But if I did MoCa, I'd need to get a router of some sort, no?

[opal pagoda]

both need a adapter
but powerline is more widespread so you can find devices that integrate access point and a adapter

and moca is a bit more expensive

[pseudo blade]

If you have cat6 there already don't bother with MoCA

[opal pagoda]

well yea

[radiant bone]

Powerline seems the easiest
MoCa seems like I'd need to buy more stuff but would be fastest.

And I DO have an ethernet cable in that room. Just 1 cable that was run from router alllll the way to a computer up there across the house. So I suppose I have the option of just getting another router?

Sadly just Cat5

[pseudo blade]

Just use that and get an old router or something so you don't have to buy an AP or switch

[opal pagoda]

well if you have a ethernet cable in that room get a gigabit switch and a access point (switch not needed if you dont need wired ethernet in that room)

[pseudo blade]

Eh check if the computer can get gigabit over it, if so I'd try my luck with that

It's just not guaranteed

[radiant bone]

I live in rural Tennessee. I get 300-400mbs down and about 100mbs up

[pseudo blade]

Powerline in my experience is lucky to get >100mbps anyways, even if rated for more

[radiant bone]

Also if possible, I really really don't want to have to go into settings and constantly change wifi over to the closer point. And I know how stubborn some devices are when trying to hold onto a connection at distance.

[pseudo blade]

Set them both to the same SSID and pass and devices will mostly sort that for you

[radiant bone]

So then the best option is to shop for a 2nd router. Oh boy...

[opal pagoda]

you dont need a router
you need a access point

[radiant bone]

I'm assuming those are cheaper

And they'll enable me to pass an ethernet signal through it to my computer

[opal pagoda]

do you have a old router on hand?

[radiant bone]

Sadly I do not.

[radiant bone]

Ok....most "access points" I'm seeing, require Power over ethernet, and only have one port. The one that you need to plug into in order for it to broadcast wifi.

I still need to have this computer plugged in.....so unless there's a different type of access point somewhere out there, looks like I do in fact need a router

[pseudo blade]

They often come with poe injectors, though it's worth confirming

Yes if you want multiple ports you want either a switch+AP or a router

[radiant bone]

I got a standard Cat5. Don't believe it'll provide any power, lol.

[pseudo blade]

Nah you can inject on the near side if aesthetics is not a concern

But Cat5 will do PoE anyways

[radiant bone]

I've got the 1 ethernet cable coming into that room. It's a cable that runs the entire length of the house, I already had to use a coupler and another 60ft of ethernet to reach this room at the far end to get this computer wired.

I wanna keep this as simple as possible, and as cheap.
I also didn't want to have to go into wifi settings and select a different signal when my phone refuses to let go of the old one, but it seems I just have to trust it'll do it.

My issue with all these access points is they require power and just give off wifi. I need this computer to stay hard wired via ethernet. Which does make me think a router is the easiest solution.

[peak cloak]

No need to use a separate ssid

Get an AP and just set it up with the same ssid, client devices will auto switch

[peak cloak]

You can get a wall plate AP, those often have an internal switch

[opal pagoda]

idk if its available in us but i have xiaomi 4a gigabit edition router that i put in access point mode, and i plugged it via wan port to my wired network and can use 2 gigabit ports on it for anything i want
it costs 35 euro here so its really cheap

[radiant bone]

Currently what I have is this setup

[peak cloak]

Like this one https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/ceiling-mount-access-point/eap235-wall/

[radiant bone]

And I suppose I'm trying to do this

[peak cloak]

Just a note, it's an AP you want, not a router

[radiant bone]

All the access points I keep seeing are just wifi.

No way for me to continue the ethernet line and plug my computer in

[opal pagoda]

one that @peak cloak suggested is good fit for you

[peak cloak]

Look at the one I posted above. Problem with a router is that it NATs and you'll have double nat

[opal pagoda]

or put it into ap mode

[peak cloak]

Yeah, you could too, but not all support it

[opal pagoda]

also that wall ap needs poe injector

[peak cloak]

Yeah

[radiant bone]

The wire just comes out of the wall. Not really a box or anything. They did a lazy job installing my cabling.

But basically get that, plug the ethernet cable in this upper room into it, and plug a shorter ethernet cable from that device, into my computer to maintain a wired connection. But it'll also give off wifi for the TV and phones

[opal pagoda]

take a photo of cable exiting the wall

[peak cloak]

You can install a old work box. Keep in mind you'll need to add a poe injector somewhere

[opal pagoda]

he can add it in the modem/router end

[peak cloak]

If you are in NA, you can add this on the drywall

[radiant bone]

Can't really get to it. Behind a bunch of stuff. But literally, drill, hole in wall, stick cable through. Called it a day.

[radiant bone]

And I thought someone said Cat5 had poe?

[peak cloak]

Well yes, it supports it. But the power needs to be injected by something

A router or non Poe switch doesn't provide power

[radiant bone]

This is seeming more and more complicated x_x
And like I'm gonna have to buy multiple things, lol

[peak cloak]

It's a more professional solution

Not strictly necessary

[radiant bone]

I just want better wifi in the room, lol

Smartbulbs took forever to pair, the smart tv had a really hard time and quality drops here and there, and phones can be spotty once in a while.

Is there a less professional and cheaper/simpler solution that'll give me better wifi than what I have now?

[peak cloak]

You could get a router that can go in AP mode

[opal pagoda]

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-AC1200-Wireless-Access-WAC104-100NAS/dp/B01LFSDZCU

maybe this
it has what is basically a integrated switch

and then in configuration assign it same ssid and password as old one

[radiant bone]

So then just that and a short ethernet cable?

Plug the pre-existing ethernet cable into that, and just run a shorter cable right over to the computer, yeah? Configure it to have the same stuff and boom, double my wifi coverage?

[opal pagoda]

it might even come with a short ethernet cable

yup

[sage crow]

check out the GL-inet line of routers alot better bang for you buck and have loadssss of options from vpn client stuff w wireguard and openvpn to torguard and adguard home

[opal pagoda]

he doesent need a router
he needs a access point with a integrated switch

[sage crow]

They have a travel router line that are powerful enough to be home routers of the few home routers that are decently priced too

They can be used as WAPs too

[opal pagoda]

he is confused as is, dont confuse him anymore

[sage crow]

ripppp

Literally have seen a more dummy proof gui for a router the what gl-inet routers have

A monkey could set them up seriously wish linus would do a review on them

[radiant bone]

Much confuse. Want to keep this wifi stuff as simple and cheap as possible, lol

[sage crow]

Go check out a few videos on them they're soooo simple to setup and decently cheap too

Might not be what you're looking for but worth looking into for sure

[radiant bone]

Ok so doing a speed test on my phone and TV I get,

TV: 24 down - 10 up
Phone: 39 down

With a wired connection of 300-400 down, I SHOULD see an improvement, right? Cause downstairs 1 room over from router I get 120 download on my phone.

[opal pagoda]

yea you will see improvement

[radiant bone]

Also if the device claims, "Does not support VPN".
Does that mean I won't be able to use my VPN on my computer anymore?

[opal pagoda]

no, it just means it doesent do onboard vpn

[radiant bone]

Ahhh, ok

Was looking at this "Archer A8" as it has less 1 star reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC1900-Smart-Wifi-Router/dp/B08C3YBBHM?th=1
Seems like it'd work as well

[opal pagoda]

one that i linked is access point and that is a router

[radiant bone]

Amazon doesn't seem to differentiate between them x_x

[sage crow]

Can save alot if you just need wired connections only

Some of the tp-link 1gig unmanaged switchs are less then $20 dollars and pretty reliable

[proven hound]

So many WAPs I took 58 of them 😂

[sage crow]

Selling them? @proven hound

[proven hound]

Not sure, might run 58 APs in my room

[sage crow]

Urm can’t see that going well but go for it

[proven hound]

I probably am tho they're fairly new

[sage crow]

What brand?

[proven hound]

Cisco

[sage crow]

Ohh that’s pretty good hardware

[proven hound]

Yeah there was a couple hundred more of them might go get more

[sage crow]

Dam I wish I could run into something like that

Is it older hardware?

[proven hound]

They're from 2017

So still usable

[sage crow]

Not to bad if you’re planning to sell relatively cheap I wouldn’t mind to have one🤔

[proven hound]

Probably like 25 30 each

[sage crow]

Not terrible especially if they’re decently powerful

Could sell them for more if they’re poe and came with injectors

[proven hound]

They're poe, no injectors tho

[peak cloak]

at such large deployments you just use a poe switch

[hard arch]

ill take 6 lol
one for each room of house then

[pseudo blade]

You'd likely either need a controller or specific firmware to use them independently.

[proven hound]

Yeah I got the firmware from cisco already. Just gotta do the work but got 50 of them 😂

[proven hound]

If I get them in autonomous mode, will you be able to do the rest?

[hard arch]

just put one above toilet so i can shit post as i shit

[marsh haven]

58 WAPs in one room? I think your communications commission would like to hear more about these plans.

[hard arch]

think at that point there be too mutch wifi interferance to even get a connection

[flint field]

so, thanks to some BS, i had to cancel my awesome ISP and get a shitty one which doesnt give me the option to have public ip and a router/modem i can do port fowarding with, i was wondering, how can i advertise or make a service exit my network for my friends to use (plex and game servers)

[peak cloak]

You can use a vps as an endpoint

And create a tunnel between your network and the vps to expose services

[flint field]

hmm, im not familiar with those, do you have any names or services ci could start looking into?

reading into those, that would be not a very good idea, i already have the physical machine with everything, migrating it to a cloud would be incredibly annoying not to mention much more expensive

[thick minnow]

there are tons of services. google vps services

you mnight not need to move the whole thing to the cloud

[flint field]

i know, just the services, but would introduce a lot of funky business

[thick minnow]

just the ones that are network performance intensive

[flint field]

yea, i host almost everything for my circle of friends and family

i had to cancel my previous ISP, because they found they could hike up their price until i canceled

[thick minnow]

they probably wanted you to upgrade to their business class, if you were offering services to others

It's about 100 more, but you can get more static IPs and stuff

[flint field]

nope, turns out i had another ISP, that got bought out, but they had to "honor the contract", turns out it was only the service, but said nothing about the cost

so i went from 80$ a month for 200/200, to 250 a month, because i was a "business class client",

[thick minnow]

sucks. Whenever I next move, gigabit fiber is on my "must have" list for prospective locations

[flint field]

i have 200/200 with this new ISP, but they refuse to give me public ip

[thick minnow]

right now, they even offer 2.5 and 5 gig where I live, but I don't max out gig yet

[flint field]

i dont even need gigabit, i just want my shit to be visible, and they also refuse to change the modem/router combo

[hard arch]

isp hardware tends to be dogshit anyway

[flint field]

ye but since its a modem/router combo i cant get rid of it

[hard arch]

you probley can just have a few hoops to jump throw

[flint field]

yeah :/ i heard i could do something with a VPN, but im unnaware of how could i setup something like that

[thick minnow]

I pay $20/mo for an AWS guest with 1 vcpu, 2GB RAM, 30 GB disk, and run my blog, email, dns, other web apps there. I maintain it myself, but their customer service is great. I've tried other cheaper hosting sites, and AWS rules, at a premium. Much like I'm an apple guy, because I understand their machines aren't overpriced, they only offer configs with the best quality parts.

[hard arch]

get a cheap buyvm vm and lookinto ssh tunling

[thick minnow]

Been thinking of swapping to one of their ARM based guests though. They don't offer tiny configs there, but I think I can get a 2 vcpu 4gb ram system for about $30/mo that would give me more power

[flint field]

yea, thats the thing, i have my own server because it fit my needs, its a 50TB, core i7 9900T 64gb ram, i use for plex and several game servers

renting out something like that would be very expensive

[hard arch]

https://my.frantech.ca/aff.php?aff=5000
can use this link to get a very cheap vps

[flint field]

i dont need a cheap one, i need actual power to handle the game servers and plex at the same time

[thick minnow]

Oh yeah, and if you're recording video off the air or streaming vods from bittorrents, you don't want that on a public server.

[flint field]

i cant have 1 cpu core and 1gb of ram

[hard arch]

you can always use ssh tunnling

[flint field]

its mostly torrents but yea, i cant have that on there

[hard arch]

then give the vps ip and that will tunnle all trafic to your local server

[flint field]

so i would use the VPS, to advertise my home server through an ssh tunnel?

would that have some sort of performance degradation for the stream and game conectivity?

[hard arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtuAdk4MwWw

better explnation

[thick minnow]

Not sure what Plex's connection profile looks like, if it's all client -> server on one port, or spread out over multiple ports

[flint field]

its only 1 port

[flint field]

really appreciate it

[flint field]

say, instead of renting this could i have a PI @ a friends house and do this?

[hard arch]

ye that would also work lol

[flint field]

cuz i have a very close friend that bought a house literally down the block, and has another ISP, 500/100, i could just leave the PI there

[hard arch]

idk how good a pi would be if theres a lot of clients tho but can do it

[flint field]

hmm, it has gigabit ethernet at least

but its only a 1gb pi4

i'll have to give it a go, i have a pi just sitting there with no use since i migrated everything to the home server

[hard arch]

have fun then lol

[flint field]

i hate my ISP so much :(

[hard arch]

idk anyone that likes there isp lol

[flint field]

i used to like mine, almost 13 years with them

[hard arch]

my old isp was crap

[flint field]

mine was amazing, we started with 5/5 in 2010, and upgraded to 200/200 in 2014

but 2 years ago they got bought out, and last 2 months hiked th price and well,GG

[hard arch]

internet would drop so mutch and lack of ethernet portrs on a router "worth over £300" its inablity to not crash when any ipv6 trafic is sent via it and no options for anything basic like opening any ports but whats spesified or any dns or modem mode options

[flint field]

that sounds horrible

[hard arch]

it was

and somehow 100c was normal temps

[flint field]

lmfao, i had a client that had his ISP modem in a coffee table besides a window

from 4 pm to 7pm, the sun would hit the modem making it over 100c and throttling his connection so hard he had like 100kbps

took us a while to figure it out

[hard arch]

had it swaped with a d7000 for a week till they changed stuff and that d7000 never connected up to the isp agein

spoofing mac address did nothing
same login stuff
still same option 60/61 settings
but nothing would work

so just gave up

[flint field]

idk why ISPs are so stupid, like doing things correctly would yield more clients

[hard arch]

now why do something like that its too easy to do that now

[pseudo blade]

One thing to note is that SSH tunneling is going to be quite slow compared to doing the tunneling over a VPN instead - I highly recommend you use Wireguard (A VPN) instead for speed, and run that on your Pi and connect to it.

[flint field]

i see

could i use wireguard to make my home server exit my home network instead of going the extra steps with the pi, or do i still need the pi

[pseudo blade]

Well you'd need some way to get server traffic in from the internet to somewhere.

Then that traffic has to make its way to you somehow if your ISP doesn't provide you with a public IP.

[peak cloak]

Nothing gets migrated. The vps serves as just a proxy/router between internet and your server

[pseudo blade]

So you'd have to use something with access to a public IP, be it a Pi or something else.

Some routers just support it

[flint field]

i see, ill shoot for the pi, i still dont understand how to do it, will read more into it

[peak cloak]

You can use a DO, Linode, Oracle cloud vps

[flint field]

cuz im tired of the lil kids asking when is minecraft comming back up

[peak cloak]

It can't be on home network

[flint field]

ill do it on someone elses network or business

[peak cloak]

Oracle cloud has a free vps you can use

[flint field]

i like that Free part

[peak cloak]

https://github.com/mochman/Bypass_CGNAT

[pseudo blade]

As PresentMonkey is saying a cheap/free VPS could be used instead of a Pi at a friends place, and because it doesn't need much performance you don't need it to be very fast server

[flint field]

i see, i know very basic networking stuff from college, but this other stuff, have no idea

[pseudo blade]

The VPS won't run your stuff, just Wireguard

[flint field]

and, a lot of outdated useless stuff

[pseudo blade]

You'll have something locally that'd connect via wireguard to the VPS

[peak cloak]

I used to have like a $1 / month VPS on DO running Vyos to get a second IP

[pseudo blade]

Then you implement NAT(port forwarding) on the VPS

[flint field]

Before switching ISPs, I had a public IP that allowed me to use port forwarding on my router to pass traffic to services hosted on my internal network. My new ISP uses a CGNAT

my god

[pseudo blade]

Yeah it's a common thing

[flint field]

this is exactly whats happenign to me

good lord, poor souls

[pseudo blade]

I use my own variant of the above to reach my stuff behind 4G modems

[flint field]

like all my stuff is very private, (aswell as the torrent communites i've been part of for the past 20 years), so i mostly want to keep sharing with my family and friends

no hosting big things for strangers

[pseudo blade]

It's throughput more than users you'd be designing for

But Wireguard's pretty easy to run up to your listed speeds.

[flint field]

Yea, i recently upgraded to server to the 9900T, because i needed more cores

[peak cloak]

I personally use tailscale for accessing my internal services, but if I need to setup an external mc server then yeah I port forward

[flint field]

yea, i used to just portfoward and call it a day even before i was hosting stuff i used to do it for shit like Cs:Go and Halo CE so i could actually play,

[peak cloak]

I used to have a whole vlan setup that would forward traffic through my VPS, found some fun Minecraft bugs that prevented it from working well

[hard arch]

tryed to use tailscale before had a few issues with packet spamming so moved back to wireguard

[peak cloak]

tailscale uses wireguard behind the scenes

[flint field]

im reading the tutorial ill use oracle cloud free tier with wireguard

[hard arch]

ik

[pseudo blade]

Sure. Be careful to note where the free tier starts and ends

[peak cloak]

^

[pseudo blade]

It's otherwise very expensive.

[peak cloak]

there's only certain VPSes that are always free elgible

[hard arch]

i just use it to connect all my mc servers to one control server

and for smb shares

can have all the drives showing up then

[flint field]

thanks a bunch guys, really saving me here

[long scarab]

I had AD set up
And then I immediately fuck it up

Time to restart

[pseudo blade]

I knew what did that.

Are you trying to log into your DC after attempting to change the domain name after setup?

I only had to screw that up once to know why I won't be doing it again if given any other options

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge dat lab update! sponsored by ubiquiti. Friendship ended with ruckus, ubiquiti is now my best friend

[pseudo blade]

Nothing's perfect

Buy what suits your needs

[main tartan]

Does anyone know why I could have packet loss at exactly xx:49 every hour? It has been happening since I replaced my ISPs modem/router with my UniFi dream router.

(Ignore the big red bars at the start, I was still fiddling with some settings at that point)

But the network just loses connection for 5 seconds and then reconnects again.

[peak cloak]

How are you testing for packet loss

[main tartan]

I get disconnected while playing games on my pc, and I can see the outages in the unifi logs.

Oh found someone with the same issue: https://forum.kpn.com/modems-123/eigen-router-raakt-ieder-uur-1-minuut-het-internet-kwijt-577996

These are the logs from when the temporary internet outage happens.

@peak cloak

https://community.ziggo.nl/t5/Internet/Internet-valt-elk-uur-10-seconde-weg/td-p/43404 this is from another ISP, but this could very well be the issue.

I'll make sure to record the lights of the NT tomorrow between xx:48 and xx:50. So I can make sure it is not just the UniFi dream machine. Since it has been working fine for the last couple of months when used in bridge mode.

[last path]

Hey, just s small question, as long as there are no open ports on my router, open ports on my computer are no problem, right?

[peak cloak]

Hmm not sure

[main tartan]

As long as random people don't make use of your network.

[peak cloak]

Yes, think of networks as layers.

[last path]

Alright, thats how I understood it I just wanted to confirm

thanks guys

[main tartan]

yeah.. it's a strange issue.

ah found someone with exactly the same issue: https://forum.kpn.com/thuisnetwerk-72/xgspon-verliest-ieder-uur-verbinding-met-de-ubiquiti-dream-router-579318

[rocky badge]

the house update was cringe

Changing region settings to bypass region locking due to federal regulations LOL

putting a non outdoor AP outside LOL

[pseudo blade]

Yeah I don't think I'd personally want to go online and publish that I was deliberately circumventing restrictions implemented to comply with RF laws

[cedar cloak]

glad i'm not the only one that thought so

[rocky badge]

42. In the Consultation, ISED proposed to allow the operation of the following three classes of RLANs:

standard-power RLANs (both indoor and outdoor) with automated frequency coordination (AFC) control
low-power indoor-only RLANs without AFC control
very low-power RLANs (both indoor and outdoor) without AFC control

The reason why its not enabled in Canada yet from Ubiquiti is due to power regulations

Yes Canada has WiFi 6E and allows 6GHz but UniFi APs may not comply with ALL regulations as of now

[craggy tapir]

hi, so I recently moved into a rather large home and am looking for a wifi mesh solution to cover the whole place. the place h as some cat5e cables going from the basement to basically all the rooms. I'm wondering if the correct way to set this up is to have the router in the basement, have that hooked up into the switch with the cables going into all the rooms, and then getting some sort of wireless access points in each room hooked up to the wall to cover everything. one sort of annoying thing is I have a room where I keep all my gaming stuff and I want to run ethernet directly to my pcs in there as well as have wifi.

1. would I be looking at getting something like the TP-Link Deco XE75 or is there some other recommended equipment?
2. does wifi 6e matter much if the backbone of my internet connection isn't fiber, my router is like a TP link ax1800 thing, and the cables going into each room is cat5e?

thanks

[peak cloak]

Personally for APs I would recommend something in the omada line as that works better although it is more business focused.

It's not that big of a difference if your end devices don't support it

[primal ice]

you would want a secondary switch in the room where all your gaming stuff is if you want wired there, but yes you have the correct concept going.

[sage crow]

Wifi 6e imo isn't all that unless wifi internet plan supports the speeds its capable, and you're in a small area

Cause a high frequency such as wifi 6e does not like walls at all lol

[clear igloo]

6e isn't too bad with walls depending on their make but drop off at distance is the big issue even without walls

obviously worse than 5GHz but nowhere near as horrible as 60GHz was

[sage crow]

Tbh 5Ghz technology has came alongggg way

[opal pagoda]

60ghz wasnt really ment as wifi replacement rather as p2p

[sage crow]

And is capable of some pretty fast speeds even through a few walls

[clear igloo]

yah, it's good for that

[sage crow]

With the technology in todays routers unless you have the speeds to support it I wouldn't even get a wifi 6 or 6e router

[cedar cloak]

as someone that lives in an apartment i disagree completely lol

[drowsy fossil]

we have some sites we service where the neighbors have completely filled the 2.4 and 5ghz spectrum, and all of our company devices have 6e with very few exceptions
there it helps a toon

[sage crow]

But for a residential home environment it's really not all it's cracked up to be unless you live in an apartment

[opal pagoda]

me and 2 of my chunky 40mhz wide 2.4 ghz networks

[sage crow]

or near loads of different routers

For personal home use tho the price point for most wifi 6e routers isn't really worth it imo

[cedar cloak]

6e in the apartment, and i still disagree. dfs hits

[opal pagoda]

especially for people with brick/concrete walls

[sage crow]

that is a really nice wifi 6e router

[sage crow]

I literally just said for residential homes it makes no sense

[cedar cloak]

read the second part 😛

[sage crow]

The guy who was asking about it said he had a rather large home. He won't be able to utilize wifi 6e as well as someone in a confined space such as an apartment

[opal pagoda]

unless he pulls a linus and gets ap for 50% of the rooms

[drowsy fossil]

on the other hand too, ive never heard of a wifi 6e chipset that was substantially poorer on the 2.4g spectrum than its 6 or 5 predecessors
6e does (iirc) have a few features that were optional on wifi 5 and 6 that clients can take advantage of despite not being 6ghz capable

[sage crow]

I think ima just get 1 gig internet and get a fatttt outdoor WAP so I can have a vpn anywhere I go on my property 😂

[opal pagoda]

get wifi anywhere you go

i did basically the same thing

[sage crow]

TP-link makes some decent outdoor ones that are pretty cheap I’ve been looking into. Personally I’m a Netgear, linksys, and Cisco guy but tp-link prices are hard to beat and I have a switch from them that’s been going for years now so

[opal pagoda]

i scored ubiquiti rocket m2 new in store for 20$ and i use it as outdoor wap

[sage crow]

I was thinking of buying a actual outdoor rated one so it can take the rain and such it’ll be under a roof sweep but still in the weather

[opal pagoda]

isnt rocket m2 outdoor rated?

[rough venture]

Hey guys, I'm still trying to figure out my ethernet issues lol. I get 940 Mbps down and 41 Mbps up when I plug my ethernet cable into my laptop. When I plug the same cord into my desktop, I only get about 500 Mbps down and the same upload speed. Any ideas what would cause that?

[opal pagoda]

check if something is using bandwidth (steam auto update, epic, etc)

[sage crow]

Not sure i was just going off the wording you had that maybe it wasn’t haha

[sage crow]

Possibly your network card on your desktop

[opal pagoda]

its under the roof anyway
just has to withstand fog and subzero

[rough venture]

Defective or does a setting need changed?

[sage crow]

Yup

[sage crow]

Possibly defective tbh

[opal pagoda]

check task manager network usage

[sage crow]

Could look for driver updates for it @rough venture

If your on windows I think you can just type in driver settings in the quick search bar

[rough venture]

Okay, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks

[rough venture]

I've checked for drivers and stuff. It always says everything is up to date. It seems to keep it that way automatically.

Idk if it's possible that the wrong drivers were installed or something

[sage crow]

Nah shouldn’t have it would throw an error

[rough venture]

Makes sense

I can't test it right now because I just rma-ed my graphics card, and I have an F series cpu.

[sage crow]

Hmm could buy a cheap one off Amazon and try it out

[rough venture]

Hmm I never thought about buying a new network card.

[sage crow]

Most of the after market ones are pci e plug and play

You just install the new drivers

[rough venture]

I have a wifi card that I bought before I had access to ethernet.

[sage crow]

Could try uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers too

[rough venture]

I might've done that. I could try it again when my graphics card returns

What's weird is my motherboard supports up to 2.5 Gbps

[sage crow]

Yea I’d say it’s probably a defective integrated network card

[rough venture]

That's honestly infuriating if true lol. I've had to rma this motherboard twice already

I've had really bad luck with this pc

[sage crow]

Could just spring for a 10 gig network card if you have pci express 3 lanes available

[rough venture]

I have a few left, yeah. That would work

I just wish stuff would work as intended.

[sage crow]

Typically for a name brand network card tho a 1 gig is probably your best bet

[rough venture]

Yeah, I'll have to price them out

[sage crow]

Probably the cheapest anyway

What motherboard do you have

Lookup to see if the network card failing is a common issue on Google

[rough venture]

An Asus Prime Z690-A

[opal pagoda]

nah 2.5g ones are good enough and cheap

[sage crow]

And if so if their is anything that can be done to fix it or if it’s a hardware issue

[rough venture]

Lol some of the guys in the build a pc channel told me I should contact a youtuber to fix my pc

[sage crow]

😂

[rough venture]

"Unluckiest First PC Build"

[sage crow]

Nahhhh forums are normally your best bet

A lot of random people that may have had your same issue and figured it out

[rough venture]

RMA Count:
Motherboard: 2
CPU: 1
RAM: 3
GPU: 1
Case: 1

[sage crow]

Just future proofing

Hopefully one day everyone will have 10 gig wifi 🙂 that is if 1 gig will ever become available nation wide

[rough venture]

That would be interesting lol

[opal pagoda]

i cant even get 100mbps
10 gig is only in dreams and in my vps

[rough venture]

I think I have a 1.5 Gbps connection

[sage crow]

I live 10 miles away from any main highway and finally got 240 mbps down 150 up this year and I’m in love with it tbh

[rough venture]

and I can get 940ish on my laptop as I said before

That's not bad at all

[sage crow]

That’s because of your PCs traffic processing capabilities

If you fix your desktop and it’s pretty powerful you’ll probably get full speeds with a 2.5 g card

Yano like Cpu capability to process packets

[rough venture]

I have a 13600KF

Not a bad little cpu

[sage crow]

Which model

I3,5,7?

[rough venture]

i5

[opal pagoda]

meanwhile me 16/1 vdsl2 1km away from the node

[sage crow]

Ahh yea should be capable I would say as long as the cpu isn’t being strained by other process on your pc

[rough venture]

Nah, it's got 14 cores. It's like a 12th gen i9

It's a beast for the money

[sage crow]

Dam must be the beefiest one they make

[rough venture]

Yeah, for an i5, it's really nice.

[sage crow]

Meanwhile I have a i3 8145u 2 core 🫠 pc

[opal pagoda]

isnt it 16 (8p+8e)

[sage crow]

And a Xeon e5 2667 16 core that ones noiceeee

Love that desktop

[rough venture]

The i9? Yeah, I think so. The 13th gen i5 has pretty similar performance to the 12th gen i9 though. It's just slightly underneath it

[opal pagoda]

i have dual e5 2690 in my collection

[sage crow]

Yea I’ve got a dual e5 2667 that I use for gaming

Thinking of upgrading to the 10 core 3.0 ghz Xeon can’t remember what it’s called

20 cores daily driving on Ubuntu phew the performance capabilities

[opal pagoda]

non v3/v4 one?

[sage crow]

V4 I think

[opal pagoda]

well its big diffrence of v1 and v4

[sage crow]

It support up to 2400 mhz ddr4 so yea I think so

[opal pagoda]

v1/2 is ddr3

[sage crow]

Yea the v4 was like $20 more then the v3 and had a bit faster ram capabilities so I got it

[hard arch]

would moca work over this type of coax

got this running all over house so if it will work may aswell use it

[pseudo blade]

Make sure you don't have a TV antenna attached or you'll blast interference everywhere

[hard arch]

dont use digital tv anymore anyway
just all hooked upto a booster in attic

[pseudo blade]

My best proper answer is "I don't know what frequencies your coax is rated for and therefore performance is difficult to predict" - FTA digital TV is generally at a lower frequency than the band used for MoCA but if you ensure that antenna is removed... will likely work?
Googling suggests people have done it and had it work.

But yeah you will definitely upset people if that antenna's left plugged in.

[slow pivot]

I don’t think that is coax; that is simply audio cable with rca connectors. Coax has a dialectic between the center conductor and outer ground (with a certain impedance, which is different depending on the cable and application)

[hard arch]

na its coax in uk house for tv

mostly uhf

[slow pivot]

Huh, learned something today :)

That supposedly is 75ohm so it should be good for moca

[last path]

hey, I am currently trying to set up a minecraft server, I tried making it public with localtunnel, but it just doesnt work. would using port forwarding for this mean a high security risk for my local network and the home server?

[long scarab]

I tried renaming the DC

[pseudo blade]

Yep that doesn't end well lol

It's possible but doing it the same way you do a rename of a normal computer leaves you with that

[peak cloak]

it's no higher risk than exposing it via a tunnel service for the most part

but you'll be giving out your IP

[tidal frost]

Ive got moca and a tuner on the same netork and it seems to work fine. The tuner itself is actually running over moca

[pseudo blade]

For free-to-air I tend to assume it's not going to have a MoCA splitter and if they don't care for free-to-air anyways...

[cedar cloak]

3620000.0 dBmV power level 2 the moon

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @hollow marlin do you guys know anything about extreme optics?

Are extreme switches picky about what optics they use

[heavy leaf]

not entirely sure how, but a while ago I had changed the DNS servers on my home network and it seems that these settings were (partially) copied by the main router for my apartment building. For whatever reason, now DNS lookups have significant delay sometimes, occasionally failing altogether, if using the DNS servers that are automatically assigned through DHCP

any ideas?

(the DNS server that was copied to be the first choice by the building network is 1.1.1.1, from cloudflare - previously it was using a server that resided on the network)

[hollow marlin]

That might be a better question for @waxen scroll . I do not have any experience with Extreme.

[rocky badge]

ah okay

[waxen scroll]

last I recall they can use cisco optics fine but really you should have optics flashed for whatever platform you're using them on

[clear igloo]

They're EXTREME to the max?
But yah, first party or third party programmed for Extreme should do fine

[rocky badge]

I have 2

[pure field]

networking noob here, i've got ubuntu running on a proxmox container, but the problem keep finding when run a speedtest in the cli is that it is limited to 100mb

[peak cloak]

are you sure the proxmox host has > 100mbps connectivity

[pure field]

it does

[sharp sparrow]

What speed test are you running?

[pure field]

realised what i did wrong, i had it assigned to the wrong vlan which was set to 100mbps

all fixed sorry to mess with you guys

[sharp sparrow]

That'd do it 🙂

[sharp sparrow]

It's exactly as safe as you trust CloudFlare.

[drowsy fossil]

I recommend setting a different dns provider for primary vs backup
personally use cloudflare and quad9 as backup

[heavy leaf]

well my most recent experience with them is that the DNS lookup can be a bit slow at times, but I'm not entirely sure if it's their fault or something with my ISP / building

it's certainly safer than your ISP having that data
they also offer DOH which would result in them not having it either

so if worried, configure DOH on whatever devices you have that support it

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_over_HTTPS)

[peak cloak]

these days idk

cloudflare definatly has a monopoly on internet data collection

[sharp sparrow]

hardly

[peak cloak]

internet traffic yes

[heavy leaf]

again hardly, they're typically used as a protective service for smaller websites

anyways, as said, they offer DOH if you're worried about them collecting your DNS lookups - the only case where this is broken is if they are both the proxy and the resolver

[peak cloak]

Small? Discord uses it

A lot of companies do

[heavy leaf]

depending on your definition of small lmao
that's specifically for their voice servers, which are not hosted with a single cloud provider, thus a third party solution for DDOS protection makes sense

[pseudo blade]

CloudFlare's used by all sorts of massive companies, no idea what you're on about

[heavy leaf]

in terms of "internet data collection", not only do they not have a monopoly, they aren't even a significant player. the main services they provide would grant them information connecting IP addresses to endpoints, which is minimally valuable

you and I may have a different definition of "massive"

[pseudo blade]

CloudFlare did a billion in revenue last year, they're not exactly insignificant

Considering the scope of their services they compare very favourably to the big clouds for their services in scale.

[heavy leaf]

sure thing, that's why they make up a significant portion of my portfolio. that being said, they aren't a major player in internet data collection, which is the topic at hand

[pseudo blade]

I replied to this, which is misleading.

[heavy leaf]

how precisely is that misleading? did i use the word "only"?

that's literally how they got to where they are today

[pseudo blade]

You stated that CloudFlare is a service typically used for smaller websites. In practice, CloudFlare is used by websites of all scales including large enterprise.

[heavy leaf]

which part of the first sentence denies the second

[hollow marlin]

I wouldn't say CF is the dominant player but it's a significant portion. Just look at the scope of what's affected when they do have an impact. But regarding the original point, the major players in "internet data collection" is really dependent on the definition of "internet data collection"

[heavy leaf]

my definition would be "useful enough to be sought after by third parties"
their protection services do protect a large amount of websites, yes, but if an interested party needs the information which this can provide (which is almost certainly delete by cloudflare after a period of time as it's almost entirely useless...) then there is a number of ways they can obtain it, not just through cloudflare

you could obtain the same data, in a much more useful manner, from ISPs

or, if for whatever reason you really want a global view of internet traffic without specific information on who owns what, you can obtain that from internet exchange points, which would provide a significantly larger portion of internet traffic than what you could obtain from cloudflare or any one cloud provider

and then for data that is actually useful and sought after, if they operate anything like where I work then they almost certainly delete personally identifying information after some period of time, and only perform analysis on anonymized data

this is done because either companies (or governments) using your services would really rather you not store and access sensitive data, or the need to operate in jurisdictions such as the EU presents a financial and legal impetus for doing so

[opal pagoda]

remember when CF was down and 70% of internet was down
yea

[heavy leaf]

to drive home this point, their DNS service is one of the few places where they do actually have full rights over the data that end users provide them. Cloudflare, not wanting anything to do with the implications of this, is one of the few companies pushing for changes to DNS such that it leaks considerably less data

[hollow marlin]

ISPs or IXes provide very little in terms of useful or sought after data. Sure you may be able to get a customer IP mapping and some traffic patterns but it's generally meaningless in the scope of things. In regards to DNS, it's generally overblown as a majority of ISPs are not logging for the sake of reselling to third parties and at most logging short time periods for tshooting/investigation. Essentially IPs/DNS provide little useful info. I would say CF falls within the same realm.

What is sought after is primarily application meta data (Facebook, Google, etc).

In either case though, "useful data" is typically aggregated from multiple sources in hopes to make it useful with the exception of the true monopolies like FB or Google that have the ability to collect it themselves for their own gain

[heavy leaf]

yeah, that was exactly my point - it's not useful data, and it's not owned by them anyways

(the DNS related data is, to reiterate)

[opal pagoda]

CF's main business isnt dns anyway
its cdn and ddos protection

[heavy leaf]

indeed... and in both of those areas, they don't own the data that is processed by them

[opal pagoda]

yep

[willow glen]

Hello, i have a laptop connected via ethernet to my router, we have a 1gbps connection hwoever due to my shitty ISP router on the wireless even 5ghz it cant support those speeds. On my laptop however i do get 1gbps through the ethernet. Is there a way i can kind of set up like a vpn or proxy to my laptop on the network and funnel all my downloads through there as it has a 1gbps connection. Say im downoading a game or something on my PC which uses wifi could i funnel it through the laptop or would this not be possible?

[pseudo blade]

What do you mean by "funnel" in this context?

You can download stuff on your laptop, yes.

You can copy stuff from your laptop to another device if that's desired.

[opal pagoda]

do you have coax in your walls?

[ivory egret]

Does anyone know of a Windows app that can analyse WiFi 6?

[waxen saddle]

What speeds are you getting on wifi? Wifi is going to be challenging to reach wired speeds- it’s the nature of the technology.

[sudden kayak]

think about what you're proposing. your laptop is able to reach 1Gbps download speed because it's connected via ethernet. the wifi is somewhat slower because that's how wifi works. you're asking if going from the router, to your laptop, then over wifi to another device in the house would somehow make it faster than just going over wifi directly to the device

the answer is no if you stop to think about it for ~5s, because the wifi is still what is limiting your speeds

also, way more important than 5 or 2.4 ghz is what version of wifi it is

[sage crow]

Sounds like you need to buy a decent wifi access point

And just turn off wifi in the router settings. Or buy a new router

[pseudo blade]

Or look into what you have further. There's no WiFi access point on earth that will make a 2x2@80mhz AC client do gigabit

[sage crow]

ie a new router

[distant wedge]

I just put my UI AP into TFTP mode by accident, do I just unplug it and plug it back in to restart it

[velvet valve]

You can connect to the WiFi on the laptop, turn on its mobile hotspot and use it as a WiFi access point. I could see it being faster as the laptop is being used as the access point and it’s wired. However, I don’t think this is very practical, and it would I really simply be better to get a better modem and router. Also wifi is simply slower than Ethernet naturally, so if you’re complaining about like 700mbps over WiFi then there’s no issue and changing the access point will not do much.

[thick minnow]

I have a fun question, so I have a unifi usw24poe. From my cable modem i get 1g/1g, from the switch i get 250/8.

all the features such as flow control and such are turned off...Is the switch just borked?

[peak cloak]

What about router

[sharp sparrow]

yeah, but for the total cost of one of these you can get a routerboard RB5009UG+S+ with significantly more routing performance

[drowsy fossil]

By their own speclist it's only capable of routing 400mbit if you have just 25 ip rules

The i5 in that Lenovo is probably capable of keeping up with gigabit with just 25 rules...

[sharp sparrow]

You are being more than a bit disingenuous there mate, that 414Mbps figure is with 64 byte packets. With 1518 byte packets the number is 9.36Gbps.

I literally replaced an opnsense machine with one less than a week ago. My use-case is multi-WAN failover on gigabit+ links.

[drowsy fossil]

Oh and that's without traffic shaping
Last I checked mikrotik doesn't support fq-codel...

[thick minnow]

I have a firewall with quad gig ports, a celeron cpu, 8GB RAM, and it handles gig internet without sweating

[sharp sparrow]

indeed!

[drowsy fossil]

Yes and that's not a fixed function arm chip...

[thick minnow]

nope. ARM is even faster. I prefer good arm chips, they don't run so hot

[drowsy fossil]

That's not the arm part
That's the ffus of the chip handling things

As soon as you max out the capabilities of the onboard accelerators, the performance falls off a cliff

[tropic mauve]

What would be the fastest way to send a web request from any type of script in Windows? Node and PowerShell (Invoke-WebRequest) both take a second to start, and curl lags a few seconds every few requests for some reason
Idk if this is the right place to ask btw, correct me if it's not

[sharp sparrow]

It can do a large chunk of what you can with opnsense, as far as routing, firewalling, nat, packet mangling, are concerned. You start to dive a bit deeper and it can start to kick you in the ass though.

[drowsy fossil]

And it's a lot faster for the simpler stuff at the same price

[sharp sparrow]

To be crystal clear, not that long ago I wouldn't have touched mikrotik with a 30ft pole for gigabit nat, as my experiences with the older models were subpar at best. This particular model is cheap and cheerful, with an sfp+ port as well as a 2.5G port (plus the other 1g ports), and does multi-gig just fine however. I was literally looking at the m720q style setup to replace my monolithic opnsense configuration, but it would have ultimately cost me about 3x what that model mikrotik did in the end.

I have been using exclusively opnsense for...5? years, give or take

[drowsy fossil]

Yeah and especially if you are not using it as a firewall and have a fast enough pipe to not need flow control they are great
But both of those are quite nice to have for home use...

[sharp sparrow]

I am absolutely using it as a firewall.

[drowsy fossil]

Also it seems mikrotik has fq-codel as a beta feature?
So they are working on it

[thick minnow]

I want a low power cpu with two to four 5 gig ethernet ports. Is that too much to ask? My isp offers 2.5 and 5G internet. All I can find are usb3.1 5G ethernet adapters.

[drowsy fossil]

Literally this box we are talking about here

[drowsy fossil]

This

[sharp sparrow]

It only has a single SFP+ and a single 2.5G port, the rest are 1G

@drowsy fossil happy to check for any feature or do profiling on my routerboard, if you would like.

[drowsy fossil]

You got cable or fiber?

[sharp sparrow]

both 🙂

1G/1G fiber, 600M/50M cable, is the current service configuration

[drowsy fossil]

Ah
Can you run speedtests that do upload and download active latency on each with and without fq-codel enabled?

Should be 4 tests

[sharp sparrow]

Give me a minute, monitor wants me to do pixel refresh lol

[thick minnow]

you have 2 ISPs?

[drowsy fossil]

Be kinda pointless to get two different connections from the same ISP...

[sharp sparrow]

Yes. Technically 4, I just don’t have the lte connections set up at the moment

[thick minnow]

wow. nice you can afford all that

[sharp sparrow]

My fiber is 10 bucks

[thick minnow]

I pay $70/mo for 1g/1g fiber from AT&T.

[drowsy fossil]

Outside of the us, internet is affordable

[sharp sparrow]

One lte is 10 bucks, the other is 50

Cable is 30

[thick minnow]

eff me. gig cable here is like $150-180 us bucks a month

[sharp sparrow]

Sweden 😀

[drowsy fossil]

I can get 5 gig for "only" $180/mo
Complete travesty

[sharp sparrow]

If I wanted to live in a major city I could get 10g for 50

[thick minnow]

I've been considering upgrading to 2.5G internet for $125/mo (55 more). I didn't get a quote for 5G

[thick minnow]

but then we're back to the question. What firewall has 2 10g ports and isn't $2000

[drowsy fossil]

That's what civilized countries look like...

[sharp sparrow]

@drowsy fossil I don’t have any queues configured at all btw

[sharp sparrow]

Other mikrotik models. Around $500 If I recall

[drowsy fossil]

I think the unifi usg has dual 10g?
And you can always build your own
I built a router that is completely incapable of maxing out it's 2 100g interfaces

[sharp sparrow]

I’m on my phone while monitor does pixel refresh

[thick minnow]

I do run my own right now, a mini-pc with 1.8GHz celeron and quad gig ports. Nobody makes a mini-pc with 10g ports or enough or the right pci slots to add a dual port adapter

[drowsy fossil]

Dream machine pro not usg

[sharp sparrow]

yeah they do. chinabox for around 400 bucks

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What's wrong with a slightly larger PC?

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I can dig up the aliexpress link for you if you want

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I've never bought anything off aliexpress worth it's cost

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these are rock solid

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They exist on Amazon too for just more money

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yup

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Confirmed dream machine pro is dual SFP+ and it's under 400 when it's available