networking

[opal pagoda]

nice

you could run such great lan party in there

[pseudo blade]

It's still only 2.4ghz

[pseudo blade]

You said C6

But that one (C5) is 5ghz. Huh.

[opal pagoda]

originally it was c5 then edited to c6 then edited to c5

i tought wifi6 ment 5ghz but guess not

[pseudo blade]

Huh. Went looking because I hadn't heard of any 5ghz ones and wouldn't mind buying one but I can't find any available to actually buy

They'll be interesting when they are available though

The 20mhz only in 5ghz is a shame though, I think most people who'd want 5ghz would want the greater throughput

But not so for a deauther

🤔

[main tartan]

The company I had my internship at uses Ruckus APs and I’ve never had any connection issues. High speeds too, so can’t complain.

They have two 10Gbps connections though.

[opal pagoda]

linus uses Ruckus AP for his home too

[main tartan]

Yeah those things seem pretty neat

[rocky badge]

That is a plan we have

I just have spare shit laying around at some sites and sub those in until Ubiquiti can RMA

[waxen scroll]

I need 4 hour replacement at my work

[south blade]

Maybe this is a bit of a Networking question, I've got a few Docker services running, trying to add another that wants to use port 8000 but I have Portainer already using that one. What's an okay port to use? 8282?

[pseudo blade]

Any unused port over 1000 is fine as non-root, just bind to 8000 in-container and specify another port as your external one. You could also set up your conflicting container/s with their own IPs via macvlan if you had to.

[south blade]

wtf, my Powershell is flickering, text jumping

[iron canopy]

hi i have a pc with wifi and a different one that dose not can i connect them with ethernet to get internet one the one without wifi

[static moat]

you mean connect the one without wifi to the one that does, so they both have internet going through the PC that has wi-fi?

.

I added a rule to reject traffic going from laptop(192.168.2.140) to router (192.168.2.1), but i am still able to access the router WebGUI using the web adress: 192.168.2.1?

[iron canopy]

@static moat yes

[static moat]

you would need to set something up software side on the pc with wifi to manage the treffic from the other PC

[iron canopy]

dose windows have that included

[static moat]

no idea sorry

if it help you can get a wifi dongle on amazon for like $10

[shy spade]

dongle is probably the easiest

[lone sun]

You guys are geniuses for being able to decipher what he was even trying to say.

[shy spade]

I mean this was a valid question though just kind of weird that someone would try this

i appreciate the wave connection to symbolize the wifi waves and the straight line for the ethernet physical connection

A+ diagram

[lone sun]

🧐 Yeah, well done that there.

[oblique frost]

(Reposting this from earlier)

Hey, Hopefully this comes under networking.
My broadband wasn’t working last night soo I called my ISP, and they had their technician sent to have a look on the issue.
After seeing my router the technician said that its lagging? And I should probably change it. He said the lan indicator lights are on even though you don’t have a lan cable attached to the corresponding port. And apparently it’s flickering a lot and may harm the devices it’s connected to.

Is this something true?
If you want tag me soo I can attach a video of the router and you can pass your views on it.
Thanks a lot

[shy spade]

[oblique frost]

Sorry it’s dirty 😭

[lone sun]

🤔 So I have another question for you ultra nerds out there. I was fooling around in my Oracle VM. I turned off the pfsense router, and disabled the ethernet in my Windows 10 VM. I pinged the Apipa address, and didn't get a response, as I expected since I disabled the ethernet adapter, or NIC. But when I ping the name of the PC itself, I get a response via the loopback address. I was not expecting that at all. Why is the loopback address responding? How would that help me troubleshoot a connection issue in this instance? With Ethernet on, the Apipa address showed up when pinging the PC name before.

[shy spade]

some people are built different

[lone sun]

The loopback address strikes back
cue star wars music

[shy spade]

im already at your front door

[lone sun]

😱 AHHHHHHHHHHH

😐 So, I guess the loopback address will remain a mystery.

😂 Seems like this loopback business is an avengers level threat. No one can figure it out.

[waxen saddle]

By pinging the name, you have Windows the freedom to look for that name using the most available adapter.

I wasn’t able to fully follow your current configuration, but I think that’s the gist of it.

[earnest orchid]

will a x8 nic run on pcie x16 slot with x4 bandwidth?

[pseudo blade]

Phone shop boss has decided he wants to replace the two 802.11n access points with something newer.

Unfortunately his "newer" is a TP-Link Archer C24

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/networking/modems-&-routers/84148-archer-c24

Wonder what the 4th antenna does when this has single-chain AC for 5ghz

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/aPs9D7WjzP.png bruh my parents barely use any Internet

[pseudo blade]

I reckon one of the antennas is just a plastic stick

[pseudo blade]

That's... interesting.

[rocky badge]

if it has wireless and sold in the US, it has a FCC ID

[pseudo blade]

So it's not a plastic stick but it is pretty much useless

[rocky badge]

So it has internal photos available online

it's nice and cool

[pseudo blade]

You can't get much for $39 AUD nowadays

So it's impressive for showing up at that price point with two bands

[pseudo blade]

I'm probably going to shift my family on to 4G data share SIMs, cheaper than even a basic NBN plan for their usage

[shy spade]

thats crazy ive seen 4 port switches for this price

Honestly dont know what is decent networking equipment

[clear igloo]

Well it's only got 100Mbps ports so it's pretty cheap for a reason
You can get 5 port gigabit switches for less but a decent home gigabit capable router is going to be at least double that price usually

[shy spade]

yea but in Australia we got dial up speeds lmao

[clear igloo]

Ah, I missed the .au, yah fair 😛

smoke signals might be better

[shy spade]

like a part of me is like yea the manager might be right the internet is not worth a good router anyway

i didnt notice they were 100mbps ports thats disgusting

[pseudo blade]

Well it's a FTTN premises and they're using a Cisco 887VA

And a 2950 for the switch

[peak cloak]

There's multiple interfaces. There's an internal interface called loopback

[shy spade]

can someone explain the wifi speeds are 433Mbps but the wan port is 100Mbps so where is that additional 333Mbps going to come from

[pseudo blade]

It's more a museum than a network setup

[clear igloo]

wow, haven't seen a 887VA in forever

[clear igloo]

theoretical wifi vs real world speeds
Plus you have wifi to wifi transfers

[pseudo blade]

Dude hung his hat up as a network engineer about a decade before he quit, and that was a decade ago

Everything's about as old as possible

[shy spade]

man so misleading

[pseudo blade]

He has a spare 887VA and 2950 for if they break

[shy spade]

is network engineer a trade

[clear igloo]

Yes

Says the network engineer 😄

[clear igloo]

Fair, if you're not doing much and just want things to keep working then no issues there 🙂

[pseudo blade]

Yeah but they're doing phone backups over that wifi network and have a fileserver

[shy spade]

adsl2+ wtf

[pseudo blade]

No it's VDSL

[shy spade]

whats the difference

[pseudo blade]

Greater speed

Shorter distance

[shy spade]

what speeds we talking

oh like 100mbps

[pseudo blade]

About 300mbps down 100 up for vdsl2

But good luck pulling that off in the real world

Not sure what you need to get the rated speed but I assume you'd have to be about two feet from the node

100mbps is the fastest offered by NBN Co on it

[shy spade]

NBN is such a scam

[pseudo blade]

Alas corporate interests got into it

[shy spade]

$100-$150 for 250mbps what a joke

[pseudo blade]

So now we have some of the slowest internet on average in the developed world lol

[shy spade]

crazy

bro there was a guy in india with a hole in his roof with internet the same speed as me

wtf is going on

[opal pagoda]

Meanwhile me:

[shy spade]

I dont like the upload speeds either. I dont know if thats my fault for not picking a plan with good upload

[pseudo blade]

Yeah you're on the edge of that node

Or good ADSL2+

[shy spade]

isnt that slow that Kbps

[opal pagoda]

it is

[pseudo blade]

Yeah that's not ideal

[shy spade]

adsl2+ is like 24mbps oh right

I wonder how these speeds effect windows 10 updates. Like would you be eternally downloading updates

[opal pagoda]

i am about 1km from the node as far as i know

[pseudo blade]

:/

[opal pagoda]

no, they get downloaded in the backround

[shy spade]

yea thats i mean it will never finish

[pseudo blade]

That looks about right I'm afraid

[opal pagoda]

no they finish

[shy spade]

ah fair

[opal pagoda]

maybe they will lay ftth in the next 5 years

[shy spade]

do you live in a rural area or something

[pseudo blade]

maybe you will win the lottery

[opal pagoda]

they have been actively building out ftth in my region for last year

[pseudo blade]

Depends which government gets in next I guess

[shy spade]

elon musk internet

[opal pagoda]

doubt its goverment funded
county/region paid the telecoms to do it

[shy spade]

hasnt the Starlink speeds slowed down because the network has become saturated

[pseudo blade]

Starlink? Depends on where you are

[opal pagoda]

its also 100$ per month

[pseudo blade]

Australia's apparently not bad yet

But it'll probably get worse and quickly

[opal pagoda]

i would rather get 4g router rather than starlink

[shy spade]

really? is that because the cluster of satellites that are above Australia dont have many users

[pseudo blade]

Apparently

[opal pagoda]

yes

[shy spade]

I thought it was kind of like 1 big network interesting

[pseudo blade]

They go around the earth, they aren't geostationary

[shy spade]

i mean i guess it makes sense

[opal pagoda]

they are separated into hexagon areas

[pseudo blade]

They connect to the nearest ground station/mesh

[shy spade]

yea

[shy spade]

what are typical speeds

[pseudo blade]

50-250mbps

[shy spade]

Maybe rural Aussies would benefit from it

[pseudo blade]

And that's not AUD

[opal pagoda]

yea thats usd

[pseudo blade]

~$140AUD

[opal pagoda]

and you have to buy the dish

[shy spade]

yea

how much is that

[opal pagoda]

its 110$ now

and you dont even get wired connection

[pseudo blade]

Subject to Elon Musk's mercy

Which is...

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shy spade]

yea its kinda sketch

[opal pagoda]

their router is wifi only
and you have to buy a adapter to get wired

[shy spade]

another $100

[pseudo blade]

Yep they got rid of the ethernet port

[shy spade]

oh what the fuck

[pseudo blade]

Despite the near zero cost of one

[shy spade]

I think its probably a build issue like having a ethernet port on a device mounted oustide doesnt seem very robust

but probably just greed

[pseudo blade]

It's not mounted outside

[opal pagoda]

and instead of using rj45 on the dish they use another propriatary connector despite signals being just regular ethernet with high power poe

[pseudo blade]

This is the indoor router

[shy spade]

oh

[pseudo blade]

Has no client-facing ethernet port

[shy spade]

wtf

literally every router has ethernet ports

in existence

[pseudo blade]

Elon would like you to pay extra

[opal pagoda]

https://olegkutkov.me/2022/03/07/reverse-engineering-of-the-starlink-ethernet-adapter/

lmao

[pseudo blade]

Is that just a hdmi connector?

Looks similar

[opal pagoda]

2 chips couple of passives

[shy spade]

scummy

[pseudo blade]

Ah not quite mini hdmi

[opal pagoda]

they could have easily just used type c

[pseudo blade]

But yeah dumb custom connector so they can charge for it

It's not even cost-saving

[opal pagoda]

cable is just regular cat 6

[shy spade]

I mean thats fair

[shy spade]

just ah terminate with rj45?

problem solved

or is this cable with the proprietary connector which you have to buy

[pseudo blade]

It's a proprietary connector

I'm sure someone's going to mass-produce a generic one

If they haven't already

[peak cloak]

the original starlink router was actually descent

standard POE to dish pretty sure

[shy spade]

we need public owned satellite internet

[opal pagoda]

btw what do you tink about this https://www.openmptcprouter.com/
and me combining 4g with dsl

[pseudo blade]

It takes effort to screw it up

[peak cloak]

but Telsa-isms

[peak cloak]

technically oneweb is owned by the british gov I think

well it was bought

[shy spade]

are people able to still get this through ebay or something or are they software blocked

[peak cloak]

idk

[opal pagoda]

they arent blocked just new dish is cheaper to make so they ship new one

[shy spade]

maybe hit up gumtree for some old starlink satellites. set the range to 200km away and drive into the bush to pick it up

[peak cloak]

original poe injector

one went to dish, other to router

[shy spade]

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/east-perth/other-electronics-computers/starlink-dishy-gen-one/1306790484 boys

im driving to perth

[shy spade]

from the east coast

[pseudo blade]

Combining unreliable networks will have unreliable results.

[opal pagoda]

my dsl isnt unreliable

[pseudo blade]

4G will be.

[peak cloak]

if it's just ethernet, no issue

[pseudo blade]

It might work well, it might not. You might be better off on just one of the two.

[shy spade]

mobile networks are atrocious as well in Australia

[opal pagoda]

here they are ok

i had 100+ mbps back in 2016 but more people came on the 4g network since and speed got dropped to around 25 down and 50 up

[shy spade]

rip

[opal pagoda]

same will happen with "5g"

[shy spade]

My speed lmao

[pseudo blade]

That inconsistency based on time of day will make loadbalancing difficult.

Because that's the thing - 4G is best-effort.

Anything that cares about packet order either won't get it or will see massive latency spikes when it's buffered on the VPS.

[opal pagoda]

keep in mind i literally have line of sight to 2 towers

[mental badger]

Hey guys mine wifi connection on my pc is really bad and the router is 6 meters away i have a external wifi card.

and am paying for 500mbpts and it drops to 5mbpts

[opal pagoda]

just run a ethernet cable

[mental badger]

i cant couse am in next floor

[shy spade]

drill through floor

[mental badger]

and router is chilling on the stairs

i cant drill

[shy spade]

drill through each individual stair

[mental badger]

wtf

are u7 joking

[opal pagoda]

what wifi card do you have?

[mental badger]

i have a tp link one

am just going to search for one wait

[shy spade]

wait are you being serious

[opal pagoda]

take some pictures and we can find a path you can take with ethernet cable

[shy spade]

but yea ethernet snake

i am on second floor and have snaked ethernet up

like along the walls like a maniac

but its white, the walls are white and the cable clips are white so its not that bad

[mental badger]

i think is this one TP-Link Archer T5E brezžična mrežna kartica, AC1200, Wi-Fi, BT4.2, Dual Band, PCI-E

ok i will get some pictures

[opal pagoda]

croatia?

[mental badger]

wait

nope

[shy spade]

and then just get a switch if you want to connect other devices

[mental badger]

slovenia

[opal pagoda]

i have drilled multiple holes in the wall to get to router in the living room on the floor below me

[mental badger]

my father wont let me

[opal pagoda]

powerline

[shy spade]

i would but rental

[mental badger]

i think is the best way

[opal pagoda]

smh imagine not owning your own home

[mental badger]

yep

[shy spade]

😢

[mental badger]

but will the powerline connector lower my ping

[opal pagoda]

one thing you will have to make sure with powerline is that its on the same phase bc in europe its common to have 3 phase supply and powerline cant jump phases

[opal pagoda]

yes

[mental badger]

ok

i will check

[shy spade]

when you say powerline you are plugging it into power outlet right

and it has like a ethernet port on it

[shy spade]

yea

is this as fast as just normally snaking cat 6

[mental badger]

hey which is the best one

[opal pagoda]

imagine it as wifi but inside the power wires

you can have multiple but then speed drops

[shy spade]

i know what it is

oh interesting

[opal pagoda]

its not as fast as regular ethernet cable

[shy spade]

how bad though like if its a 5% drop

[opal pagoda]

its defo not gigabit

[shy spade]

thats not that bad compared to the ugliness of outside cables

[mental badger]

is there one that can go 500mbps

with full speed all the time

[mental badger]

its not worth it i think

[peak cloak]

No, and speed and quality heavily depends on your electric wiring

[shy spade]

yea this is dodgy as fuck

[mental badger]

how to CHECK wiring

[opal pagoda]

compared to couple of holes in the walls it isnt worth it
if you can drill just drill

[peak cloak]

How close they are? Are they on the same circuit

[shy spade]

bro just get a long ass ethernet cable

[mental badger]

am going to take pictures now

[shy spade]

and cable clips

done

[opal pagoda]

if he needs to drill i would reccomend getting a long cable, sniping one end of, run cable trough 6mm hole and reterminate the cable

[shy spade]

no drilling

[opal pagoda]

you can also hide cables behind those

like this

[waxen scroll]

cute

[shy spade]

thats neat

although dont houses already have skirting boards

[waxen scroll]

yep

[opal pagoda]

you can pull them off and run cables behind them, thats what i did

[shy spade]

so this is something you would put instead of those skirting boards

[opal pagoda]

mine already had space for a cable

[shy spade]

yea this is "destructive" though

[opal pagoda]

they are held in place by clips

[peak cloak]

You can use cable raceways

[shy spade]

im guessing dad will be angry if you replace skirting boards n shit lmao

[mental badger]

yep

[opal pagoda]

take some pics

[mental badger]

sorry for bad quality

at the first phot is my room at the end

that is the finish line

[opal pagoda]

you can run the cable almost invisibly trough that U profile steel

[shy spade]

definitely could easily run an ethernet cable easily and cover with floor strip when you get to the room area

[mental badger]

yea but how am going to get it to my room

[shy spade]

your room is the end right

[mental badger]

yes

on the left is my brother's room

[shy spade]

you can just go straight and get a cable cover for like $5

[mental badger]

at the end left is another room

[shy spade]

yea so you would put the cover there in blue

[opal pagoda]

or up and over the door

[mental badger]

i mean not a bad idea

[shy spade]

i would prefer the up and over but its up to you

[mental badger]

thanks

[shy spade]

i went up along the roof because i have carpet to avoid tripping

[mental badger]

heyy

[mental badger]

i think that this is the best solution

[opal pagoda]

you can get thin cable

if under the door is really tight

[mental badger]

yes i need a cat 6

i think

[opal pagoda]

are you running 10gig?

[mental badger]

no but is 100mhz

[opal pagoda]

mhz dont matter for you

[mental badger]

ok

so cat5

[opal pagoda]

cat5e

[mental badger]

ok

[opal pagoda]

also you can use couplers whenever you need to switch the type of cable

if you cant find one long enough

you can use regular round one for the stairs and flat one when exposed

[shy spade]

yea that sounds complicated

just use 1 long cable

[mental badger]

my speed now vs then...

hey guys thank you for everything

and bye

[shy spade]

Im confused tbh

I always think im being trolled

These answers cant be real

[opal pagoda]

bc you are

[lone sun]

🤔 Yeah, various nerds say the loopback address is about the TCP/IP software, and has nothing to do with the hardware. It explains why it can be pinged no matter what happens.

[rocky tendon]

can someone help me figure out this problem i lag like this in every game

[iron canopy]

Ok are you using wifi

@rocky tendon

[rocky tendon]

yes

[iron canopy]

Is running a wired connection possible

[rocky tendon]

nope

[iron canopy]

Well see if making that device the only one on let say 5ghz and other on 2.4ghz

[rocky tendon]

i can try i guess

[opal pagoda]

powerline it is then

[rocky tendon]

how do i do that

[opal pagoda]

you will need to buy powerline adapter, they often come in pair of 2
you put one near your router and run a ethernet cable into it
then you put one near you pc and run ethernet cable from it to your pc

https://youtu.be/b0vy1VzFbf8

[rocky tendon]

okay ty

[meager ginkgo]

If you have coax outlets, MoCA will likely be the better option (if you can find where the cables go)

[hazy sandal]

got an isp gateway setup (temporary) as an AP (DHCP etc turned off) and using pfsense for everything else. This works decently. My only issue thou is that it is supplying all devices on the network (even connected directly to the pfsense box) with ipv6 addresses, it's own ipv6 address as dns server and somehow overrides the domain search prefix supplied by pfsense. Any clue on how to workaround this until I can purchase something better

[wintry fiber]

wait does this actually works? 😂

[pseudo blade]

It would, but it's basically a really dumb hub that also blasts all network traffic over your powerlines

If you needed powerline ethernet for multiple devices, sticking one in with a switch would be a much cheaper and more efficient solution.

[peak cloak]

Turn off RA

[hazy sandal]

ipv6 isn't on in pfsense. On the isp gateway I can't do anything regarding ipv6 at all, just a green dot showing that it is enabled

[peak cloak]

Maybe if you disable v6. RA (router advertisment) is a part of SLAAC that basically makes clients know it's a router and use it's DNS server so I think it's still on

If it's just acting on a L2 level it shouldn't need v6 actually on

[hazy sandal]

pfsense is the one that should handle everything, but the isp gateway is pushing it's own stuff over ipv6, which is the issue.

[peak cloak]

Yeah, can you disable ipv6 on the "gateway"

[hazy sandal]

no, I can't. I have no access to anything except settings for ipv4. Even if that was the device that should handle stuff, I can't access anything regarding ipv6

thats everything regarding ipv4/ipv6 I can access...

Kinda feels like I'll have to deal with this until I can get a proper AP, leaning towards a TP-Link EAP245

[opal pagoda]

also look into ubiquti ap

i got rocket m2 and once i set it up it never gave me problems
i use it outdoors to cover my terrace and lawn

[hazy sandal]

I came in contact with a few before, but never really got to manage them properly, but the little experience I got with management of them wasn't really enjoyable. Might look into them further down the line thou, at least to get a better familiarity with them for work.

[opal pagoda]

i also have xiaomi 4a gigabit edition router that i put into ap mode for garage bc it was cheaper buying a router than buying a access point

[peak cloak]

I'm not a fan if you just need one AP as it doesn't have a standalone web ui

[pseudo blade]

I think I'm looking at a Technicolor/Vantiva router. Without knowing exactly which one it is, I can only really suggest installing OpenWRT, replacing the device or using it in routed mode so it won't pollute other devices and you can give it DNS config from the now upstream pfsense. Your search domains will still not work that way. But I'm actually doing exactly this right now on my home network on a Technicolor so I'll quickly check what mine's doing.

[pseudo blade]

As a reply to this

Hey guess what mine doesn't do this and I found the setting that apparently controls this, which is exposed with my ISP's settings.

[hazy sandal]

TG799vac Xstream to be specific, the Telenor VANT-W model. And even though the fw is OpenWRT based, there is no clean OpenWRT build for this device, not that I've been able to find anyhow. And it is only temporary. We've just moved to a house, and for some reason the gateway wont take an ip (as 3 other gateways), but pfSense does.

[pseudo blade]

This is on a Technicolor DJA0231, which is years newer so your mileage may vary

[hazy sandal]

Before we moved we had access to up to 5 public ips from our isp (Telenor), but our new isp (couldn't bring Telenor here sadly) gives a CG-NAT:ed ip unless requested and motivated otherwise. In our apartment one public IP went straight to pfSense, and one to the TG799.
Telenor still hands out TG799vac Xstream to new customers xD

[opal pagoda]

idk but mine had one
maybe new one doesent have it

[peak cloak]

Ik the new ones don't, at least anything newer than N

[hazy sandal]

The ones I accessed didn't have a standalone web ui, and that was about 1.5-2 years ago

[peak cloak]

I've worked with them at work, need to adopt to controller to manage

[peak cloak]

That's airos

That's for wireless p2p

Not for APs

[opal pagoda]

yea i got one really cheap new, i use it just like normal ap

with omni antennas

i just needed to turn off airmax technology

[pseudo blade]

I assume you don't have that setting when you go to the local network options?

[peak cloak]

ah yeah, but that's misleading since thats not what people think of AP

[pseudo blade]

I'd also say they don't really make for very compelling access points, though they can be used that way

[opal pagoda]

i paid 18$ for it

new in store

[pseudo blade]

They're outdoor rated sure but you'd only get one chain if you're just sticking an omni on one unless you put two on and do something weird with the positioning, and only offer one band

[opal pagoda]

i put 2 antennas on it

[pseudo blade]

Will it work if you just want a bit of bandwidth outside for home use? Sure.

[opal pagoda]

range is awesome doe

[pseudo blade]

Mostly limited by the tiny device antennas and receive sensitivity

Phones don't broadcast at a watt either

I still use something vaguely equivalent in Mikrotik-land for low numbers of clients where nobody needs more than 20-30mbps anyways and we saw up to about 300 meters clear line of sight

[opal pagoda]

well i mostly found a deal and then found a use for it

i could have also connected my remote property with it if i was able to buy 2 but they had only one in stock

[pseudo blade]

Nothing wrong with saving money but I won't go and pay full price to replicate it

Antennas aren't free either

[opal pagoda]

fr i wouldnt pay 80$ for it

[opal pagoda]

i already had couple of omni antennas from access point that failed

[twin hazel]

Any recommendations for a new wifi acces point setup? I am using an older ubiquity AMPLIFI and I think I should upgrade

[pseudo blade]

Why do you want to upgrade? If we have more of an idea of what you're looking for we can provide better responses.

[twin hazel]

I am no longer getting the expected speeds and would look for something that gives me good coverage and speed everywhere

My flat looks somewhat like this, the red x is the internet, the green is the garden

[pseudo blade]

What speeds are you getting, and what speeds do you expect? Do you get the expected speeds right next to the router?

That's a pretty small area to cover.

[twin hazel]

Rn right next to the router, 380mbps

Getting 600-800ish with cable

But in bedroom, bathroom or garden it’s something 50 or less

[cold forge]

Can anyone help me figure out why I'm only getting ~1070Mb/s when I should be getting closer to 2000?

[thick minnow]

aww boohoo ur not getting 2000

dude im over here with fucking 30 mbs

[cold forge]

that's... not helpful at all

[thick minnow]

be grateful

[cold forge]

1. if I pay for something, I get to be entitled to the thing I paid for, it wasn't charity given for free
2. I asked for help, not advice such as "just deal with it"

[thick minnow]

1000 mbs is already overkill

[cold forge]

okay... so I'm going to disengage, because I'm looking for help with my networking, not to be told "just be happy with it"

[drowsy fossil]

this sounds like the device connected is gigabit
try running the speedtest on two devices at the same time

if not, check each device between your isp and device for the speed of the connection

[cold forge]

That's what I thought too, except for a few things:

1. with speedtest, I get slightly over 1Gb/s, about 1070Mb/s
2. AFAIK, everything is 10GbE end-to-end

and it's not an ISP issue - I get the full 2Gb/s if I use the speedtest CLI on my router

[drowsy fossil]

you have custom settings on your router?

[cold forge]

Running an OpnSense DEC2750

[drowsy fossil]

i mean besides wifi pass, stuff like filtering?

[cold forge]

no wifi on the router, it's purely a router and firewall

actually, i might have a seperate device doing routing, I'd need to doublecheck

it might be just NAT + Firewall

[drowsy fossil]

be super careful, bc theres plenty of devices that cant handle that sort of bw when specific settings are enabled

[cold forge]

Yeah. That's why it's complicated, lol

[drowsy fossil]

and also check the link speeds just in case

[cold forge]

oh! I can post image in this channel

[shy spade]

That’s robbery

[cold forge]

that will be helpful

[drowsy fossil]

check all the interfaces

[cold forge]

I wonder how much work it would be to connect my desktop directly to the router. IDK if I can

[drowsy fossil]

especially the isp > opnsense connection

wait no

opnsense to subsequent device

[shy spade]

2 questions: did you ever have close to 2000mbps. Is that just advertised as 2000mbps and your actual real life speed is half

[drowsy fossil]

see above

[shy spade]

My mistake

[cold forge]

I'm bad at diagramming.
10GbE fiber (throttled by ISP to 2Gb/s) -> ONT. ONT > DEC2750 via Cat6. DEC2750 > Mikrotik via DAC. Mikrotik SFP+ to RJ45 > Cat6 > another mikrotk switch w/SFP+ to rj45. Mikrotik > desktop via DAC

[drowsy fossil]

check all the mikrotik block diagrams

there may be one that you have crossing a switch chip > cpu link

and also check your dacs ofc

[cold forge]

@thick minnow I don't really want to move this conversation into DMs with you. But just to be clear - if I work 40+ hours a week, and I spend my own hard earned money on something, it's not "entitled" to want what I paid for, just so we are clear

[thick minnow]

i aint reading allat 😂

[cold forge]

not my problem

seems me to me that reading comprehension isn't your only problem, judging by your spelling - but I digress

[cold forge]

good point

Mikrotik is definitely a bit complicated

[thick minnow]

My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane Albuquerque New Mexico 87104.

[cold forge]

Congratulations?

[thick minnow]

k man its not that serious 💀

over here typing out a whole paragraph

[cold forge]

Yes, that's how human beings communicate on the internet. I realize you are probably pretty new to the internet, but you'll learn in time.

[peak cloak]

ironic

[cold forge]

The other issue is - troubleshooting 10Gbe is difficult. At 1Gb/s, i can just stick 1 laptop at each end of a connection or something - i don’t know if any laptops with 10GbE ports and by all accounts, external SFP+ adapters are garbage

[drowsy fossil]

again multiple devices

id really hope your wifi network is capable of over a gb at that price of other equipment

[cold forge]

sorry, not sure what you mean by that

[cold forge]

working on it. Probably need to update my ubiquity WAP to Wifi 6 or whatever the new hotness is, but wifi devices aren't the primary consumer of my network anyway, my homelab and my desktop is. I have an SFP+ NIC in my desktop.

[drowsy fossil]

like run an iperf server on your pc, then run several client devices

eg laptop + phone

[cold forge]

working on that atm actually. Not getting over 1Gb/s on the desktop. Trying to troubleshoot now

just updated one of my Mikrotiks to the latest version

[drowsy fossil]

ye but if you use the laptop you can determine where the bottleneck is

[cold forge]

Confused how - all my laptops are only 1Gb/s, and I can do 1Gb/s from my desktop right now

[drowsy fossil]

2 laptops

or 3

[cold forge]

ah, I see. You are saying I could have 2 or 3 devices all do 1Gb/s iperf and the network with no issues should be able to handle it all since it should do 10Gb/s

[drowsy fossil]

like this

[drowsy fossil]

ye

then try off the first switch

if you can get 2gb out both times, its the link between the router and sw 1

[cold forge]

makes sense, a bit to setup

[drowsy fossil]

yea well

its either that or do some software deep diving

[shy spade]

That looks like a pp

[thick minnow]

language

[drowsy fossil]

-_-

[cold forge]

@drowsy fossil it’s good advice, thank you. Doing my first steps atm - upgrading everything, making sure I have the latest versions

[drowsy fossil]

while you are in the interface, make sure to check the link speeds

[cold forge]

it would help if Mikrotik did iperf

OpnSense has iperf. Mikrotik has btest. Windows has both iperf and btest, but OpnSense doesn't have btest and Mikrotik doesn't have iperf

[opal pagoda]

could you cut the chain by pluging sfp+ to rj45 transciever into your pc bypassing your last switch?

[cold forge]

thinking about trying that next. I might be able to plug the PC directly into OpnSense

which would tell me if the issues is the connections, or the Mikrotiks

[opal pagoda]

yea opnsense > rj45 transciever > cat6 > rj45 transciever

[cold forge]

That's what I'm thinking

[opal pagoda]

also make sure the speedtest target can actually receive that much bandwidth

https://youtu.be/_7CIlZIZB5k?t=856
like this

[cold forge]

2Gb/s from OpnSense

Holy shit, those SFP+ adapters just about burn your fingers!

[opal pagoda]

🤔 maybe they were thermal throttling if its possible

[cold forge]

Maybe

[opal pagoda]

needs a blowiematron ziptied to them

[cold forge]

lol

I wish I could easily put an AC in my basement

[opal pagoda]

mini splits are a great option btw

[cold forge]

huh?

[opal pagoda]

https://youtu.be/2GwWztBfnrU

just needs a small 5cm hole to run refrigirant + comms

[cold forge]

The entire thing is concrete though

[opal pagoda]

my whole house is concrete and bricks and installers were able to install it in a hour or so

[cold forge]

and the only window opens up like this:

[shy spade]

I can immediately tell the age from linus baby face

[cold forge]

and sounds not very portable. I have zero desire to install something expensive that's hard to take with me when I leave. The landlord certainly doesn't deserve it for free

[shy spade]

wtf only 3 years

thought it was going to be 5 years or something

[opal pagoda]

they are like 300$ + install fee here

ofc higher spec high efficiency ones are more expensive but basic ones are that price

[shy spade]

thats not bad

[opal pagoda]

i tink i paid about 600 for mine (install fee and a nice unit)

[peak cloak]

rj45 adapters?

yes, they get hot, and they use a fair bit more power than just fiber

[shy spade]

do they have lasers inside

[peak cloak]

which is why you can't just put rj45 sfp+ modules on all ports of a sfp+ switch most of the time

[opal pagoda]

no but they have active conversion chips

[peak cloak]

the fiber ones? yes

[shy spade]

water cool SFP+ adaptors

[peak cloak]

stupid

[cold forge]

Yup. I already had the Cat6 run, and replacing it with fibre would be a lot more work

[peak cloak]

yeah that's the issue, in wall cabling

pain to add anything after walls are closed up

spent a good bit running ethernet around the house

[cold forge]

Yuuuup

plus termination. You can terminate Cat6 at a keystone - not really an option for fiber

[peak cloak]

well you can

nowhere as easily as ethernet

[opal pagoda]

you can terminate fiber but at minimum you need
fiber strippers
fiber cleaver
fiber wipes
fiber field connector
and a visual fault locator to align the field connector

and then you cant even go with lc connectors bc almost all field connectors are sc

[cold forge]

I mean, I know you technically can, but it's a huge pain making it "not really an option" for all intents and purposes 😛

(sorry, *for all intensive porpoises 😆 )

[opal pagoda]

i am considering fiber for connecting garage to house as ill be digging a trench for 3 phase power anyway

[cold forge]

it's a good idea. I did some research and comparisons for a friend of mine thinking of doing basically the same thing

the SFP+ modules is where the cost is - length for length, the fiber cables are cheaper than most other options we looked at

considering he already had the modules, it's probably the best option if he decides to do it

[opal pagoda]

well my options are
run cat6a in the trench and risk damaging something with emi
fiber
powerline
and wifi p2p

[peak cloak]

would be good idea, fiber is nice as it also electrically isolates

sfp+ modules aren't too expensive

like 20-30 bucks

[cold forge]

SFP or SFP+?

[peak cloak]

for short distance

[cold forge]

and not, they aren't that expensive, but 2 modules + a length of fiber is more expensive than just buying DACs

but as was mentioned - the lack of electrical interference is definitely a big plus :)

[peak cloak]

well yeah for super short distance like in a rack that's different

[opal pagoda]

i already bought this
we will see if cheapest fiber cleaver ever does its job

[peak cloak]

why not buy preterminated fiber

can also just get some direct burial stuff

[opal pagoda]

i have a tiny bit of problem that my father already burried a conduit (3/4" water line) below asphalt road so i am a bit space constrained

and i am not in the mood of digging up asphalt road or using pneumatic mole to run another conduit

[peak cloak]

yeah

[shy spade]

do people run fibre all through their house?

ive never heard of that

[drowsy fossil]

i consider myself people lel

[drowsy fossil]

again thats only true for distances where you can get dacs

[opal pagoda]

5 meter or less

[shy spade]

i mean cat 6 can go up to 10gb so i dont understand why you would be putting fibre through the house

[drowsy fossil]

and also only true if you are going new equipment
if you are going for speed, optical is actually cheaper nearly regardless of distance for 40 and 100g thanks to the used market

[opal pagoda]

bc you can put 25 gig trough a pair of fibers

[shy spade]

but for what

[drowsy fossil]

you can put 400g on a dac but thats still not relevant

[opal pagoda]

living on the bleeding edge of technology

[shy spade]

lmao

[opal pagoda]

or you scored some cool stuff of ebay

[drowsy fossil]

my main use is minimizing local storage on my pc

[opal pagoda]

do you mount iscsi drives to your pc-s?

or just regular smb shares

[drowsy fossil]

i was trying to use rdma with smb

[wispy spindle]

i refuse to meddle with fiber in my house

10gig cat6 is ballin enough

[drowsy fossil]

meh

[wispy spindle]

im not gonna need to transfer more than a gigabyte per second for a very long time

[drowsy fossil]

i can install all my games on my server and i dont have to worry about popin

[opal pagoda]

what server do you have?

[drowsy fossil]

its basically my last pc lel

[opal pagoda]

understandable

[drowsy fossil]

9900k with a pile of old mlc ssds

[wispy spindle]

based mlc ssd

[peak cloak]

not really

for connecting core network devices, sure

but to every room is overkill

[peak cloak]

single mode fiber doesn't have a limit

kinda

[shy spade]

fibre connection to tv which only does 100mbps

crazy how tvs dont have gigabit ethernet ports. Some 4k bluray movies can saturate 100mbps

But I guess nobody is doing this

[peak cloak]

4k? that doesn't use 100mbps

maybe raw sure, but encoded no

[shy spade]

yea not encoded

[peak cloak]

who streams non encoded?...

[shy spade]

me

[drowsy fossil]

uhd bluray is h265 at 128mbps

so yes 100mbps is not enough

[shy spade]

yea so I have 2 copies rn since my machine cant transcode

4k bluray and then smaller encoded copy

[drowsy fossil]

and I like to use NDI which needs around 200mbps (it looks pristine)

[shy spade]

what is NDI?

[drowsy fossil]

its a video livestreaming codec (proprietary unfortunately)

but its very very low latency and high quality

also uncompressed 4k video is near 6gbps
4k bluray is already quite compressed...

[shy spade]

4k church coverage boys

we never missing service again

[drowsy fossil]

yup its super easy to set up

[shy spade]

my only question

does this work with plex

[drowsy fossil]

doubt it

and there wouldnt be any point, use something more efficient

[peak cloak]

NDI isn't a file format pretty sure

[drowsy fossil]

plex can play livestreams tho right?

[shy spade]

i am not sure how to answer this.

yes it streams content???

[drowsy fossil]

no we mean live content

[shy spade]

oh right

ohhhh

[drowsy fossil]

like mpegts or rtmp

[shy spade]

no i dont think so no

[peak cloak]

It can do live tv but that's it

[shy spade]

live tv with channels nobody wants

[peak cloak]

although there are some plugins that do iptv

[shy spade]

yea you cant have a livestream from your cameras or something connected to plex

[drowsy fossil]

that sounds like a challenge lel

[peak cloak]

apparently plugins are now retired

[shy spade]

im sure theres some forum where someone has tried it

but its kinda like why

[peak cloak]

ikr, it is possible with a bit of work

[shy spade]

probably jellyfin has something

[peak cloak]

m3u

[shy spade]

Please leave your thoughts and prayers. Woke up to parity drive offline 🙏 🙏 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

[peak cloak]

unraid?

[shy spade]

yea

[peak cloak]

checks out

whole concept of a dedicated parity disk is not used in modern file systems like ZFS

[shy spade]

i heard unraid was going to add ZFS somewhere down the line

but yea thats kind of an L for unraid

[tidal frost]

Ive got OTA working, but iptv and m3u playlists are a headache since they stopped plugins.

Got halfway through then just stopped trying lul

[tidal frost]

Good handful of people who still want ota stuff. I wouldnt need it if my local news had iptv tho -_-

[shy spade]

true

kinda upset that ota is still not 4k

like in general with cable its just not 4k

even 1080p shockingly at least here in Australia

[pseudo blade]

BTW check if you're bridging with hardware acceleration or not on the Mikrotik if it's a CRS switch, you'll know because a core or multiple will max out during the speed tests

The only other thing is making sure IPS isn't being used on opnsense because the router you have can't do much more than a gigabit with it

[cold forge]

How do i do that? In bed atm, but i can check later

And no IPS

[pseudo blade]

Winbox/webfig/Mikrotik app on Android, /tools/profile, look at per-core CPU usage during a test ("all" will show all cores separately)

[cold forge]

Thanks!

[somber moat]

Do PCIe switches apply to networking? I have some really specific questions

[tribal flax]

Does anyone know how the Cloud Key Gen2 Plus from Ubiquiti records? Do I need a switch to plug the cameras in and then plug in the Key?

[opal pagoda]

thats why you buy intel cards and not realtek ones
always problems with non intel cards

[pseudo blade]

What I can say on this is that the Bluetooth for that WiFi card uses USB and the WiFi uses PCI Express. Have you perhaps got the card in some sort of USB adapter?
If not, for the drivers if you're running Windows 11 you might need to extract the Win10 driver from the installer and manually install it.

[pseudo blade]

You'd need to adopt the cameras from the cloud key, and do to that they'll need to be powered and share a network yes.

[tribal flax]

Ah alr, sounds good, I've been planning a Cloud Key Gen2+ with 3 G4 Bullets and 2 AP with Long range

And also an 8 port POE switch lite

[pseudo blade]

Not as most here know it, but you're better off asking than asking to ask - you might get lucky.

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo They are running 40Mhz channels for wifi 6 5ghz here

1147Mbps PHY 😳

[trail venture]

Can someone recommend a good small form factor router /switch combo that can run DD-WRT and has 10GBE ports RJ45 no fiber

preferably something affordable for home use it will be mostly used for NAS

only needs to be a 5 port unit but at least 3 ports need to be 10gbe

[clear igloo]

Affordable/10GbE/compact
Pick 2 if you're lucky
A router with 10GbE is NOT affordable

Easily $500+ and with multiple 10GbE interfaces, $1000+

[trail venture]

i dont want to but I could deal with a full 1 u rack size

worst case scenario

[clear igloo]

Then used enterprise stuff is your only hope if affordable is under $500 price range and even then that's pushing it for copper 10Gb stuff

A switch alone, easy
A combo unit, not so much

[trail venture]

I could make due with a switch only

wan port is only gigabit so that can go through the old router and the switch just negotiate nas transfers between the computers

[clear igloo]

https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Switching-Connections-Protection-TEG-S750/dp/B09M7KSZB2
This would probably be my go to for new non-energy draining enterprise gear

[trail venture]

although i might want a 2.5g router since my current netgear doesn't have the cup to push the full 1gbps between wan and lan

that will work

[peak cloak]

could take a look at mikrotik

they are usually cheaper

[clear igloo]

Yah, there is the option for SFP+ switches with RJ45 SFP+ support but then that eats up cost too on the other side with the RJ45 optics

[trail venture]

I already ran cat8 STP for everything ill just stick with that instead of messing with optical

[peak cloak]

oh yeah if doing copper then imo just better getting just direct rj45

for a switch

[trail venture]

I have a trend net switch already so I think ill stick with that brand i assume they still have the beefy all metal construction and are pretty much bullet proof

so the switch is locked in what would you recommend for a high speed wan / lan router

wan side needs link aggregation for dual 1gbe coming from the modem future proofing it when speeds get over 1g

[clear igloo]

For your router option, if you did want 10Gb in the future then you're looking at a prebuilt then a pfsense/opnsense/mikrotik is going to run about $800 easily
If you did DIY then it opens up for some savings but you still need a really solid single threaded CPU for pushing a lot of data out to the internet, otherwise you can get away with a decent mid/entry level xeon and 8gb of RAM or something smaller

[trail venture]

only needs two lan ports no wifi

one for the switch and one for the smaller router which will be handling wifi only

ill keep my old router for that purpose

something that can run DD-wrt so I can just import my existing configs easier

[peak cloak]

do you need 10gig routing? since it doesn't sound like it

[trail venture]

the router can be 2.5

[clear igloo]

Link agg is a pita, I would honestly advise waiting to see what your ISP offers for over gig speeds since they might have a 2.5Gb port option instead with rate limiting which is much easier

[trail venture]

yeah than straight 2.5g i can just get a newer modem with 2.5 when needed

just thinking about link ag since my current modem already supports it

[clear igloo]

Yah, the issue is agg is hash based usually source/dest IP or MAC in which case you're not actually getting over 1Gb on a single client that way

[trail venture]

basically the reason to go to 10G is because I basically have my home set up to run steam off a NAS and all computers share the library

load time improvements etc

also nightly backups etc

things have just gotten a bit too large to do over 2.5

[peak cloak]

for that just a 10gig switch is needed

[clear igloo]

It looks like DD-WRT is a no go but OpenWRT is a go for x86-64 based stuff if you wanted to build something for 2.5+ Gb

[cold forge]

agreed. I did a bunch of research about a year ago

I had the following requirements:

• can run OpnSense
• 2+ SFP+ ports
• rackmount
• half-depth to fit in network rack
• ports facing the same side as the network switches

ended up the DEC2750 being the cheapest solution. https://shop.opnsense.com/product/dec2750-opnsense-rack-security-appliance/

if you want to go with pfsense, they have an appliance that is lightly cheaper

sadly, there were not good DIY solutions that were more affordable - very few chassis fit that profile

[clear igloo]

Yup, that's what I was looking at and the 6100 from netgate

[cold forge]

if you can go full-depth and don't care about your ports being on a different end of the server, then you have more options

[cold forge]

yup! the 6100 was the other option I was looking at

https://shop.netgate.com/products/6100-base-pfsense, for reference, but by the time you get the rackmount kit, it's about $900, and it's pfsense not opnsense, so....

[trail venture]

complete overkill and well outside my budget comfort zone

[cold forge]

Well, depends on what your needs are. Rackmount and 10GbE is pretty expensive unless you are going DIY

[trail venture]

i meant for the router bit

only need 2.5g on wan

[cold forge]

if you don't care about rackmount or 10GbE, protectcli is pretty nice, I have a family member that bought one and is happy with it:
https://protectli.com/

This one has 2.5Gb:
https://protectli.com/product/vp4630/

[trail venture]

again the cost lets keep it under 300 at the high end

under 200 would be more comfortable

doesn't need to be fancy just needs to push packets between lan and wan at full throughput

[pseudo blade]

Switch chip L3 is a pretty cost-effective option in Mikrotik land though it does involve tradeoffs.

I'd look at the above 2.5gbe boxes instead if that's enough (after checking if the STH aliexpress ones are cheaper because that protectli is 100% the same device)

[cold forge]

Yeah, idk if $2-300 is reasonable or not for 2.5Gb/s - 10Gb/s was my goal when I was doing research

[trail venture]

tbh anything enterprise has massive price gouging attached due to a captive audience with big pockets the average private citizen cant afford so really its a matter of just finding the hardware made by a consumer brand

optimally used market is best

if you want to even consider anything enterprise level

[thick minnow]

well there definitely is some price gouging i think enterprise hardware is priced for a reason, companies will pay for reliability and supply over actual functionality, manufacturers have to uphold some sort of standard of reliability which leads to higher pricing and is also partly because they have to account for the ongoing cost of supporting enterprise hardware.

[opal pagoda]

enterprise stuff is either ultra expensive or uber cheap

[cold forge]

well, somethings are just expensive. Buying 1 SFP+ card is expensive, much more so than a 1Gb NIC

once you want to add that to hardware small enough to rack, it's even more expensive. And it takes a lot more computational power to route 10Gb/s than 1Gb/s, so while you can buy a $30 PC from Goodwill and throw an extra 1Gb/s NIC in it and have a pfsense box for under $100 - it's just not realistic for over 1Gb/s

[rocky tendon]

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Powerline-Adapter-Ethernet-Passthrough/dp/B0778Y6K6N?tag=linus21-20&geniuslink=true&th=1 so if i buy this everything should be fixed?

[opal pagoda]

powerline isnt better than cat6 but hugely better than wifi

[rocky tendon]

whats cat6

[peak cloak]

Ethernet cable

[rocky tendon]

oh

ok thank you

[hollow marlin]

Is there some price gouging, yes, but that is not the only reason.

Enterprise devices and their chipsets are what set them apart, the primary difference being between enterprise and consumer is what can be done in hardware. Consumer hardware all trickles down from enterprise and there is a lot of R&D and manufacturing cost required before reaching a point where it's cheap enough for consumer equipment. The bulk of the hardware cost is in the chipsets (and/or licensing).

There is also a ton of non-hardware related cost associated too which do have a cost to the manufacturer.

[full monolith]

Is this chip able to get me 2gbps on both ports at the same time?

[peak cloak]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/184676/intel-ethernet-controller-i225v/specifications.html

[full monolith]

Thanks i prob test it. Im doing bonding and need 1.1gbps on both ports at the same time

Need a non realtek 2.5g dual port card

[hollow marlin]

You'll still only get a max of 1G per flow.

[full monolith]

Shit

[hollow marlin]

While I believe Windows has the ability to be able to do per-packet load-balancing, it still falls under aggregation which on any networking device is always hash based. One flow/connection will always follow the same path.

[halcyon osprey]

can anyone help me? i switched to ethernet today and my download speed is 900+ but my upload speed is less than 1mbps, ive installed the latest drivers and followed a bunch of tutorials and forum posts but nothing works, my cable works fine as i connected my laptop and that worked fine

[meager hawk]

I have 10 gig in my walls but only have a gigabit switch but I was thinking of getting a 10gig connection from my server to my computer any recommendations for super budget 10gig pcie cards

[waxen saddle]

I picked up one of these recently:
https://a.co/d/3397ONx

I’m not 100% sure what “converged” means though. My speed tests can’t go over 4gb/sec due to limitations of my equipment at the moment, so no idea if this card can pull off full 10gb/sec, but I see no reason why it couldn’t.

[median owl]

ping with response please

what would be the ideal settings/config to change on which devices for this to function as intended? TLDR I need to use hotspot for internet when ISP goes down, hotspot is wireless only so wanting to use PC as the bridge. PC also needs to be able to access the samba share on local network even when connected to the hotspot. Bonus if local network can also use the hotspot's connection when primary modem goes offline.

formality explanation as to "why": my ISP is doing their "best" to determine the cause of intermittent outages and after 3 weeks I need to do something to keep myself online so I can do my remote work regardless of their capacity to resolve it. their issue is infrastructure-based, outside my residence, which has been confirmed at this time; meaning there's not much I can do to fix that any faster. any thoughts on this?

[waxen saddle]

If you access the NAS by IP address, I imagine you could just disable DNS for the wired adapter and be good to go.

Then when the ISP comes back online, re-enable DNS for the wired network.

[median owl]

it is accessed as a mapped drive on my PC, via IP; I'd prefer something a bit more automatic if at all possible. the outages come and go at any given time and it disrupts my work quite a bit having to mess with adapters and connections frequently

[waxen saddle]

The only thing I know of would be to get a router that has 2 WAN ports that you can configure to fail over. Then get a travel wifi AP that you can configure to bridge the ethernet to wifi and configure it to connect to your wifi hotspot.

I’ll admit this is not ideal for an issue that is caused by your ISP

[median owl]

yeahhhhhhh. I was afraid it was going to be a financially based solution as i've got money tied up dealing with them as is. I've lost quite a bit of money already due to the outages as i've had to push jobs back in due date; which I'm sure you already can tell where the snowball effect is happening... I know i'm kind of asking for a miracle solution at this point. When bridging the two together I do have access to both as they are, but I presume there's DHCP conflicts that cause the hotspot connection to be essentially unusable in performance

I'm a bit rusty on networking as i've not needed to really mess with it too much in the last few years, so I forget the rule of thumb for this, but I presume changing the IP of the hotspot device to an available IP in the router's range COULD work, however i'm unsure of the implications of DHCP conflict, which i'm sure happens

i've been doing some reading and see there's a config for interface metric, which is essentially a builtin way to handle this type of thing, apparently. I'll give this a try

[empty bronze]

So I have port forwarding setup via a Wireguard tunnel using the following iptables rules

iptables -A FORWARD -i wgp -o enp1s0 -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -i enp1s0 -o wgp -p tcp --syn --dport 27015 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -i enp1s0 -o wgp -p udp --dport 27015 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i enp1s0 -p tcp --dport 27015 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.75.0.2
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i enp1s0 -p udp --dport 27015 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.75.0.2

Here enp1s0 is the interface with a Global IPv4 and wgp is the wireguard interface and 10.75.0.2 is the wireguard client I'm forwarding the ports to

This setup work perfectly when the client's AllowedIPs = 0.0.0.0/0

But doesn't work when the client's AllowedIPs = 10.75.0.0/24

How would I make this work with AllowedIPs = 10.75.0.0/24?

[snow elk]

Does anyone know why Wireguard adds +10ms of latency?

Pinging two nodes from clearnet to clearnet gives 27ms.
If I make a Wireguard tunnel between them with MTU 1412 and ping them through the /30 in the tunnel I have 37ms.

Thoughts?

[pseudo blade]

Well any VPN tunnel will add latency. How much will depend on node performance, load, if you're using userspace Wireguard or kernelspace and priority.

[opal pagoda]

first there is processing delay
second there is physical delay of how far the wireguard server is from you

[swift creek]

anyone here worked with ntop? I have a quick Q if thats ok

[thick minnow]

i have

[pseudo blade]

Just ask, don't ask to ask

https://dontasktoask.com/

[swift creek]

Copy

I'm trying to get the names of devices that have connected to the network in the last 6 months. the data generated in the 6 month report doesnt appear to be giving me a list like that that I need

Its probably me just being a network admin noob but getting that data isnt exactly obvious with the gui lmao

[thick minnow]

i think there is a setting you have to enable, i’m not sure are you just getting the mac address?

[swift creek]

I'm not even getting that list. The 6M report is just flows, interfaces and top apps used

[thick minnow]

what tab are you in?

[swift creek]

dashboard->traffic report

[thick minnow]

also i’m not sure it will display devices like that, i’ve only ever looked at active devices, under hosts

[swift creek]

yeah that appears to be the case. I'm looking into how to make a historical list of names/macs

[thick minnow]

yeah i think it gets rid of them when the dhcp lease expires

[swift creek]

any good directions to be pointed for setting up a way to log device names and macs?

[thick minnow]

do you have a managed switch?

[pseudo blade]

I'd probably use the logs from your DHCP server.

Not bulletproof, won't help you with ipv6 slaac

[swift creek]

I was just thinking of that for opnsense. And we don’t use ipv6 in any interfaces

[pseudo blade]

But I can't imagine many devices using just ipv6 and not acquiring an ipv4

[thick minnow]

you could do what i did and get a L3 switch and set up logging on that

[hollow marlin]

Obtaining device hostnames requires the device to first advertise it's hostname in some fashion. This can be in DHCPv4, protocols such as LLDP or pulled via SNMP. It's not something that can always be discovered via external tools which is a good thing.

Simplest way is DHCPv4 logging which should always be done if this is a business/enterprise. You will at minimum log the MAC/IP binding and hostname if the client advertises it which it doesn't have to.

For more comprehensive logging, you should be using an NMS and monitoring all your equipment, which can give you hostnames via LLDP/CDP if the device has it enabled (VOIP phones for ex.).

[snow elk]

well as I said through clearnet I have 27 ms

and it's VyOS and kernel space.

[snow elk]

the node is pretty good I'd say, four cores of a 5950x

And load is next to none as it's a clean install

[pseudo blade]

Ah yes but a VM will also add latency

[snow elk]

Yeah but I have 27 ms from side to side?

10ms is a lot

I'd expect one or two

Hypervisor is Proxmox

[pseudo blade]

I'm not sure what you'd like me to say

There is probably gains to be made in removing the VMs, or passing real hardware in. (Namely the NIC)

There is probably gains to be made in using real time scheduling.

There is probably measurement issues complicating your results.

10 milliseconds is actually not a lot of time.

[snow elk]

Well I've used the same setup on less powerful hardware, heck even on a host that was overselling and the latency was identical

(15ms pure, 16ms with wg)

I really don't know to be honest

The MTU is the same to my last setup, both Wireguard and clearnet interfaces

[pseudo blade]

MTU only matters if fragmentation needs to be done.

I wouldn't expect a normal ping to be fragmented.

For latency that is

[snow elk]

It's not, it's just 86 bytes

If you re talking about ICMP echo requests that is

[pseudo blade]

I presume this is your benchmark

[snow elk]

My benchmark is:
Step 1.
Ping peer1 from peer2 using public IPs, say 1.1.1.1 pings 2.2.2.2

Step2:
Ping peer1 from peer2 using the IPs in the Wireguard interface, say 10.0.0.1 pings 10.0.0.2

[pseudo blade]

I would look at performing encapsulation for wireguard, passing through packet processing and firewall into the second host, de-encapsulation, packet processing and firewall again and then back again all on a host with no guarantees of real-time packet processing in a virtual machine on a hypervisor with unknown load at the mercy of two schedulers on each side and say that 10ms sounds reasonable.

But as said I'd chase the above variables if you really need better or persue alternatives like MPLS or even dark fiber if you need a lower latency private connection.

[snow elk]

MPLS/dark fiber is out of reach for me. I'm just doing this for learning so no big budget.
Also, GRE is not possible due to one host being behind NAT , to add: a router that doesn't support 1:1 NAT

[main tartan]

I am confused. I am able to port forward remote desktop (port 3389), and I am able to port forward a Node.JS web server (port 80 & 3000). But for some reason I am not able to port forward my Minecraft Server (port 25565) using the Ubiquiti Dream Router.

I have enabled DMZ on my ISPs modem/router. And I have tried it without DMZ, by configuring the port forwarding on my ISPs router as well (for 192.1.68.2.1). But I can't get the port forwarding of my Minecraft Server to work.

but I am able to join using other devices on my local network. And netstat -ab shows that the port is in use.

[cold forge]

• if on a modern linux system, netstat is deprecated - try sudo ss -plnt
• can you connect to that port from another system within the network? That would be the next troubleshooting step, to ensure you weren't running into issue like an OS firewall or something

[thick minnow]

should i be worried about performance in proxmox for stuff like opnsense i’m passing the nic directly but i have never thought about latency

[pseudo blade]

Worry if it impacts what you do.

Don't worry if it does not.

[thick minnow]

lol ok

[pseudo blade]

I have a friend who removed CPU cores from being otherwise usable by the host and switched to using a realtime kernel just to reduce latency. It worked but you pay in throughput and flexibility

[main tartan]

using windows rn, cuz I run some games that don't run well on linux yet.

and yes I am able to connect to that port from another device on my local network.

Oh I just tried running my web server on port 25565

and that isn't publicly accessible either.

I'll try to use a different port for my mc server.

bruh. that was it. For some reason the default port (25565) won't work with port forwarding.

Ah well, at least I'll be able to host my mc server for friends again.

[real flower]

im looking to replace my eero pro 6 wifi with something more "tinkerable". I am hoping to get some suggestions for a wifi router I can have in AP mode. I already have a router and a small opnsense box everything will be going through. I would like to keep it under 200-300 if possible for a pair of AP units. One of them will plug into my opnsense box for internet.
The main requirements are wifi 6 or 6e preferred. VLAN support. Mesh network. I want at least wifi 6 but would prefer 6e.
I want the mesh ability because there is little to no ethernet running through this house (single story, 1500 sq ft). So I can't easily wire up any repeaters/sattelites. Though I will only need 1 additional device. Currently looking at these:

• TP Link EAP610 Omada
• TP Link deco AX3000
  Not sure what other good options are in that price range.

[halcyon topaz]

DO i need internet acess to transffer files to my nas on my local network

[thick minnow]

no

[halcyon topaz]

I have a 1gb/s switch and i can only get 110mb/s from my nas on it but i know the drives can do faster. Wat is my issue here

[peak cloak]

Can be multiple things

CPU, disks, network

[halcyon topaz]

yea ik

would an i7 870 be a bottleneck

or a tplink 8 port

[hollow marlin]

"mb/s" (megabits/second) or "MB/s" (megabytes/second)?

[halcyon topaz]

megabytes per second

i also have gigabit network on both computers

gigabit port

on the board

[hollow marlin]

8 bits = 1 byte. So 110MB/s = 880mbps

[halcyon topaz]

is my speed good tho or is it limited

[hollow marlin]

Getting 110MB/s with 1gbps links is well within the range

Best case scenario is 950mbps or 118MB/s

[halcyon topaz]

ok cool

would buying a 10 gigabit nic on both computers increase the transfer speed

[hollow marlin]

Only if they are directly connected else you'll need a 10G switch as well

[halcyon topaz]

ok thanks for the help. Im only 13 and i just started using truenas so yea

i have a question regarding truecharts mc java server in tech support any help would be greatly appreciated

[thick minnow]

around 10G you might want to add a cache server, even if you can write fast enough the compression becomes a bottleneck in most cases

[peak cloak]

Or just a cache ssd?

[thick minnow]

oh i thought they where doing like steam downloads mb

[rocky tendon]

how do you know what cat wire (like cat6)to get?

[opal pagoda]

cat5e is only really good for gigabit altho you can get 2.5gig and 5gig over it
cat6 is rated for 10gbe at 55meters
cat6a is rated for 10gbe at 100m

[rocky tendon]

100m as in like the length of the cord?

[opal pagoda]

yes maximum distance

[rocky tendon]

gotcha

i found one that is 200ft

[opal pagoda]

what cat rating?

[opal pagoda]

what will you use it for?

[rocky tendon]

from the motem to my pc

i use wi-fi rn and it sucks

[rocky tendon]

this is what my internet looks like on wi-fi

[opal pagoda]

gigabit or multi gigabit?

[rocky tendon]

i’m not sure what that means, sorry i’m not experienced in this stuff

[opal pagoda]

then you are probably using gigabit
do you need it to be outdoor rated?

[rocky tendon]

no we are going to run it up and through our attic back down to my room, so just the heat level and mice

[opal pagoda]

yea that cable will do

[rocky tendon]

thanks for the help

[hearty coral]

anybody who has any knowledge about PFSense routers?

[meager ginkgo]

@rocky tendon what country are you in? You may not even have to run a cable.

Check out MoCA 2.5 adapters or Powerline (worst-case)

[bold drum]

Well that's interesting. OpenVPN seems to be giving T-Mobile a mental breakdown.

[bold drum]

What you need?

[hearty coral]

i want to know if it is posible to gre-tunnel ips to the server whats running pfsense and route them to a switch and from the switch to like 10 other servers

[bold drum]

Ah, I haven't worked with GRE so not sure on that

I mean PFSense does support GRE so probably?

[thick minnow]

https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/interfaces/gre.html

[molten elm]

Can someone help? I just built my pc and have gigabyte wifi but these are my download speeds on basically every client.

[median spire]

tf is a 10gbe port? I have one on my router but there's no way I actually could have 10 gigabit ethernet in my house because I plugged it into a 2.5 gigabit switch into a 2.5 gigabit compatible motherboard and only got a gigabit which is what all the other ports give me. what's this port for? why does it say 10gb if it's not? and what's the different between a wan port and Lan port?

[hearty coral]

Huh is it a 2.5gbit router?

Or doe you mean it supports?

[cold forge]

well, the port could easily be 10Gb, even if nothing else is

[ebon sierra]

Anyone know any FTP Applications that are good other than FileZilla

[cold forge]

For Windows? WinSCP

[ebon sierra]

Ill check it out.

I also found one called Cerberus

[ebon sierra]

Im copying files over to my pc, but I keep losing connection while doing so, anyone know why/a fix?

[pseudo blade]

What's between you and it?

[main tartan]

Turns out it is an issue with my windows system. Just tried it on my laptop (running Arch) and that works fine.

[shy spade]

is this solid core?

[cold forge]

Did you double check your windows firewall?

[main tartan]

yup, fully disabled it.

Might be a good reason to switch back to linux as my main OS.

[cold forge]

Weird. I can’t help with windows, not an expert, just a user 😛

[main tartan]

no worries, just windows being weird as usual.

It worked before I connected my UDR xd.

But that should not have anything to do with it.

Since other devices on my network are able to port forward port 25565

And on my desktop pc I can port forward my minecraft server on a different port, just not on port 25565.

[long vapor]

hi guys, was hoping someone would help me out

i want to set up smart lighting in my pc room, but the wifi there is basically non existant

whats the best way to go about this. My first thought is to get some sort of a pc based hotspot if thats a thing

but idk shit about network's

[pseudo blade]

Your computer has wired internet? If so you'd be ideally looking for a small wireless router you can use in Access Point mode, that will give you pass through your wired internet to both devices and get WiFi, as otherwise you'd want a separate small switch and an access point and that usually costs a bit more.
You can of course go for a USB or PCIe WiFi card and use hotspot/internet sharing but I find it be a comparatively fiddly solution.

[long vapor]

not rl sure what you mean with acess point

[pseudo blade]

Takes ethernet in and puts WiFi out

[long vapor]

i dont think wirless will work for me since i got no wifi in the room atm

ah right

id still need a switch tho? to run ethernet back in to the pc

or are there wifi repeaters that got both ethernet in and out?

[pseudo blade]

If you have cabled internet to the room you can use that, but normal access points only have one port, so you wouldn't be able to plug your computer in without a switch.

[pseudo blade]

You are looking for a wireless router, but you'd turn off the router bit

As I already said

[long vapor]

hmm, you think thats cheaper then a repeater?

found one for 30e near me, seems pretty economical

[pseudo blade]

Repeating no signal gives you no signal

[long vapor]

so the plan i got rn is to get a switch, wire ethernet both to a repeater and pc and go about it like that

idk much about networking so even this is kinda confusing to me lol

[pseudo blade]

Or you could go with what I suggested twice but idk I'm not repeating it again

A switch will work for attaching an access point.

[long vapor]

would i need to configure the router? or is it basically just plug shit in and go?

[pseudo blade]

You would need to turn off the router bit, DHCP etc.

[long vapor]

how would i go about doing that?

[pseudo blade]

Depends on which one you buy

[long vapor]

could the router affect my ethernet speeds?

based on a specific model i buy

or would it just be straight pass through

[pseudo blade]

If you buy a 100 megabit one and your internet is faster you'd be limited to 100mbps

You'd just use the switch built in to the router so the CPU speeds, RAM etc wouldn't matter

[long vapor]

so if i configured it properly it wouldnt affect ethernet speed from what i understand

[pseudo blade]

If your internet speeds are gigabit or less, and you buy a router with ports that exceed whatever speed you get, it won't affect speed

The same is true when buying a plain switch

[long vapor]

i got 1gb/s upload/download

over ethernet

so a simple switch could affect ethernet speeds as well?

[pseudo blade]

If it wasn't a gigabit switch yes

There's only a few dollars difference nowadays, you'd have to go really cheap to find one that wasn't

[long vapor]

so basically, i want to find a router/switch thats 1 gigabit +?

to not affect my ethernet speed

[pseudo blade]

If you want to go with the access point/router approach yes

If you have an spare old router lying around you could use that

[long vapor]

hmmm, i might actually

need to look around

well thanks for the tips

[pseudo blade]

No problem.

[rocky tendon]

whats solid core?

[shy spade]

https://www.truecable.com/blogs/cable-academy/solid-vs-stranded-ethernet-cable

[cold forge]

what do you guys use for diagramming your home network?

[rocky tendon]

should it be solid core or stranded?

oh nvm solid fs

[shy spade]

if I understand correctly solid is preferred for permanent in wall installation but for regular use just go stranded because it’s flexible and easier to deal with

[thick minnow]

yeah solid core will break if it is moved to much

i hope one day new construction will come with any sort of in wall fiber

[opal pagoda]

you can do fiber but terminations are pain

[thick minnow]

yea

would be a pain for a lot of reasons

[opal pagoda]

tbh if you want fiber in wall
just run long fiber patch cables

[thick minnow]

but still sick

[shy spade]

True

[thick minnow]

i run fiber in the hvac lol

works

[opal pagoda]

like ducts?

[thick minnow]

ye, it’s shelled dw

[opal pagoda]

ducted hvac are only used in usa and canada

[thick minnow]

i realize that