networking

[carmine moss]

just go on amazon and search cudy pci-e

[cyan vapor]

Thanks

Cudy AX3000 Wireless WiFi 6 PCIe Card for PC, Bluetooth 5.0, 2402Mbps+574Mbps, AX200 Module, Bluetooth 5.0/4.2/4.0, 802.11ax/ac/a/b/g/n, Windows 10 64-bit Only, WE3000S https://amzn.eu/d/ghEbe4z

Will they go in the right way on my pc

Or this one TP-LINK AX3000 Wi-Fi 6 Bluetooth 5.2 PCI Express Adapter with Two Antennas, Intel AX200, PCIe Network Interface Card for Desktop, Low-Profile Bracket Included ( Archer TX3000E) https://amzn.eu/d/5wL9Tx6

[peak cloak]

That's looks like an N wifi card

You want something that's at least AC

[cyan vapor]

What’s the difference

[peak cloak]

AC is newer and faster than N

N aka wifi 4 was standardized in 2009

[cyan vapor]

The one I sent through said AX

[peak cloak]

?

That's not ax

[cyan vapor]

^

[peak cloak]

Yeah that's ax

Was pointing out that if his card was N that's probably responsible for slower speeds

[cyan vapor]

Is there a way to find out if it’s N

I never brought it you see

[opal pagoda]

go to this path in control panel

then right click on wifi one and click status

[cyan vapor]

Ok

I can’t find network and internet

[opal pagoda]

change adapter settings

[cyan vapor]

Found it

It says 144mpbs

What am I looking for

[hallow hull]

@peak cloak Hey I was lurking and I need a new card is this a good one?

https://www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/adapters/all-series/pce-ax58bt/

[cyan vapor]

Realtek RTL8192EE

[turbid phoenix]

man this monitor got me fucked up brah

i hate how its so conveniently in the MIDDLE of it

[sacred ocean]

what's wrong with it?

[turbid phoenix]

one (1) singular dead pixel

conveniently in the middle

[cobalt turtle]

what are some good routers i can find for around 50 usd?

[sacred ocean]

can you rma it?

[sacred ocean]

The tp-link ac1200 has pretty good specs for the price

but tp link is a little flaky imo

[turbid phoenix]

cba

[sacred ocean]

sounds like a you problem then

[cobalt turtle]

can it support 12 devices though

[sacred ocean]

you'd struggle to find a router/access point that can't

[cobalt turtle]

ale

[hallow hull]

Can someone explain to me what the difference between a tp link router is and a bt router and how does the monthly stuff work with a tp link router (May be a stupid question sorry if it is)

[peak cloak]

monthly stuff? as in the internet service cost?

[hallow hull]

Yeah

[cyan vapor]

Where

My one?

Anyway, should I get a new a NIC or?

[turbid phoenix]

my monitor.

[cyan vapor]

Oh

I posted a pic of mine and though you saw one

[turbid phoenix]

i

thats not really how dead pixels work.

[cyan vapor]

well I posted a picture from my phone so it could have been identified

Anyway, should i change NIC?

[peak cloak]

the monthly charge is for internet service. They need to pay for infrastructure to get the wiring to your house, paying upper tier ISPs for IP transit/peering, and more. All your home router does is connect all your devices and interface with your ISPs connection. A lot of the time you need some sort of ISP equipment, usually a modem/ONT to take the signal whether it's cable (DOCISS) or like fiber which will provide authentication, and other things, and covert it to an ethernet connection a home router can use. It's very popular nowadays for ISPs to combine the modem/CPE and router together which I'm not a fan of.

[gloomy pier]

by BT router are you referring to "british telecom", the UK ISP when you mention the "BT riouter" vs the tp link router?

[hallow hull]

Ye

[hallow hull]

That is confusing

Let me kinda rephrase the question:

What's the difference between the tp-link router and the router box an ISP gives you?

And if you buy a tp-link router do you need an ISP still and how does it all work?

[cyan vapor]

Should I get this Ubit WiFi Card, Three-Band 3000Mbps WiFi 6 AX3000 PCIe WiFi Card with Bluetooth 5.2, Wireless Adapter with MU-MIMO,OFDMA,Ultra-Low Latency, Supports Windows 10/11 (64bit) only https://amzn.eu/d/gBhLBLy

[gloomy pier]

basically you are almost always going to be getting an utterly shit device from your ISP if you allow them to strongarm you into simply accepting whatever device they tell you is for your service. im not sure how it works in the UK regarding this aspect of it, but i would imagine that you have at least similar (probably better tbh) consumer protection policies in the UK than we do, and here in america if you know what kind of plan you are signing up for, it's pretty easy to get the right cable modem and router for your home setup.

also, here in the US every ISP i've ever used or heard of, has charged those of us who wanted to install it ourselves (as the 'technicians' they send out are hit or miss, at best, and often totally incompetent) , a fee for "self-installation" which is the "nicer version" of only like $30 USD versus $75+ USD for them to come in and plug a few cables in. there's also the monthly charge that every ISP I have known charges for the equipment they want to toss your way. usually it's like 5-10 bucks a month, which doesn't sound like much especially at the beginning but it adds up fast and if the equipment sucks you'll be glad to get a better product

[gloomy pier]

this is the wifi card that i got - https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GC-WBAX210-802-11ax-Bluetooth-Expansion/dp/B091HTG6DQ/ - it was a little bit more than some of the other options for similar pci cards but i thought it was worth it. has really good bluetooth built in, much better than what was built into the motherboard previously

[cyan vapor]

So my ISP (also BT) only gives me a max of 51 because of my area. Is that over kill or will I still benefit from it

[peak cloak]

It depends on if the ISP equipment is just a router or a router/modem

[gloomy pier]

i should mention, if you dont have a router that's going to take advantage of the speed of wifi 6e, might be better to get a cheaper router and upgrade later, but i rarely use wifi so im biased

[gloomy pier]

max of 51? you mean 51 megabits per second download?

[cyan vapor]

Yes

[gloomy pier]

like your download speed would be roughly 5-7 MB/sec

if you were at full speed

[cyan vapor]

On my pc and only on my PC. In my room on my phone it’s about 48, and on my play station 42 and on my laptop 48 but on my pc it’s like 7

so I assume it’s the NIC

[gloomy pier]

yeah that's not really that fast, it's still considered broadband depending on your upload as well. you'll get the best speeds using ethernet cables

the NIC is the network interface card that's inside your PC

this owould be a problem with either the router or/and the modem

[cyan vapor]

The BT guys came out today and said there’s nothing wrong with the router

Which is true as it works ok on my other device although still has its issues

[gloomy pier]

well i am guessing you are getting these speed issues when you are connected via wifi?

[cyan vapor]

There’s no way for me to route Ethernet. I brought those power like plugs but only got 28mpbs which is no higher then my current solution (plugging Ethernet into a netgear wifi booster)

Yes so 7 on wifi directly from pc to the router (which has a BT disc)
And 28 connected through Ethernet to a wifi booster

[gloomy pier]

did they give you some device that is strictly wireless only?

[cyan vapor]

The BT disc is wireless only and should not be used with Ethernet. The netgear booster I believe is able to be used as Ethernet as well

NETGEAR WiFi Booster Range Extender | WiFi Extender Booster | WiFi Repeater Internet Booster | Covers up to 1200 sq ft and 20 devices | AC1200 (EX6120) https://amzn.eu/d/8nhF2CT

Netgear booster for reference

[gloomy pier]

okay yeah if your netgear device is a router it'll have a few different plugs on the back, there will be a power plug, then you will have one all the way to the left or the right that is labeled "WAN" then you will have a bunch labeled LAN 1 / LAN2/ LAN3 etc. and potentially a USB plug of some sort on the back

[cyan vapor]

The router is the BT device

[gloomy pier]

okay so it is a combo device then

[gloomy pier]

alright thats what ive been wondering this whole time haha

[cyan vapor]

The netgear device is just a wifi extender

[gloomy pier]

yeah, can you show me a photo of the ports on that BT device?

like the plugs that aer available on it?

[cyan vapor]

Yes

So esrlier I got these power line adapters and plugged in Ethernet into the gig Ethernet port and then into the adapter which ran it through the earth cable and then connected it to my pc which made no difference

I’m wondering whether or not to get a new wifi card for my pc

[gloomy pier]

just for reference this what a cable modem and router setup
looks like

[cyan vapor]

We basically just have a router which has a cable coming from outside provided by the ISP

Atm (although it’s turned off) I use this booster to boost the wifi signal and then connect it to my pc

[gloomy pier]

yeah so if that's the only device that you have other than that network wifi extender thing you showed me, then that's either a router/modem combo or whatever is going on in the uk doesnt require a modem because you have the cable already coming from some kind of prewired setup

[cyan vapor]

There’s a box on the street

And then a cable goes into the house and into the router

[gloomy pier]

into the black bt box right?

[cyan vapor]

Yea

[gloomy pier]

should be going into a port labeled WAN most likely

or one that has a <----> sumbol

[cyan vapor]

Which is pretty standard in the UK however because of my area it’s shite

[gloomy pier]

or rather i think the ymbol for WAN is different, it's been so long haha

okay, that clears it up then

[cyan vapor]

They provide these discs to extend the range

I’ll have a look

[gloomy pier]

yeah those are probably just wireless signal repeaters

[cyan vapor]

That comes from outside

well

[gloomy pier]

ah okay, broadband/WAN same thing

[cyan vapor]

It goes into a master switch

[gloomy pier]

i think you are susing some kind of DSL type service not american style cable internet

like VDSL or something, judging by the speeds

especially as i think british telecom is phasing out all their old POTS (plain old telephone system/traditional copper coaxial pair network) relatively soon

[cyan vapor]

And then outside. Regardless going back on track. All my other devices run at the max speed they can with my ISP in my room. Apart from my PC. And idk how to fix it.

I’ve tried the power line adapters.
No luck

Now do I get a new card?

[gloomy pier]

yeah, basically the main difference that getting your own router would be, is that you would have much more control over stuff like your wireless network and your privacy/security

[cyan vapor]

Right

Idk if we have that option if I’m honest because what lines would it connect to

[gloomy pier]

that's something that you would have to figure out if its wortrh it to you or not. are you trying to plug in your PC via ethernet?

[cyan vapor]

No. There’s no way of getting Ethernet to my room. The only way (powerline adapters) did not work

The power line adapters use the earth cable to transmit the Ethernet signals. Linus had a video on it a few years back

[gloomy pier]

do you not have access to cat 5e/cat6 cables? you can get one and plug it into one of those 4 empty yellow plugs you showed on the BT box

[cyan vapor]

We could get them but I don’t know how I would get it upstairs

And into my pc

[gloomy pier]

internet over the power lines is going to be hit or miss in my experience, i dont blame you for not wanting to have some gaudy huge cable snaked through your house or whatever.. if it's not possible to do it through a crawlspace or if you arent interested in say, snaking it around door frames and along the edges of the wall to hide it, it could be annoying

[cyan vapor]

Mhm. Plus it’s my parents house. Can’t imagine they’ll be too pleased

[gloomy pier]

like it took a 50 foot lone cat6e ethernet cable (one of those ones that lay completely flat) and was able to basically staple it flush to the base boards along the floor and then around the edge of the door frame into the spare bedroom in my place, took a little bit, looks good

yeah i was right it looks like you are using the BT smart hub 2 (and i guess it came with a single separate 'disc')?

[cyan vapor]

Yeah so you can get a max of 3 and we have 3 so.

[gloomy pier]

looks like it's an ADSL connection, the discs are meant to provide some kind of mesh connectivity

[cyan vapor]

Mhm

The engineer told me to turn off the netgear extender as it causes interference

But then my wifi on my pc was unusable

So I really don’t know what to do

[gloomy pier]

yeah the netgear extender would be running interference. did they not ever set up the wifi itself from the bt disc router?

that router, almost certainly will have a sticker of some kind on it with the admin login and password and an address, typically something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 or .2.1 etc

and usually some temporary login/pw like admin 123456

[cyan vapor]

I do have something with a login but where do I access that?

The engineer today turned off the automatic channel switching because we have a disc in the kitchen which constantly gets interference from appliances and sends back a message to the router to switch channels which causes temporary outages

[gloomy pier]

yeah he probably switched it from 2.4 ghz to 5ghz

[cyan vapor]

He made it so that even if the channel is occupied it wouldn’t look for a new one

[gloomy pier]

as microwave ovens run in the 2.30-2.33/2.35 ghz spectrum, cordless phones and certain TVs/remotes run on the 2.4 ghz

[cyan vapor]

Mhm

[gloomy pier]

yeah, in order to do that he would've had to have logged into the router itself, did he bring a laptop with him or something?

[cyan vapor]

He had some company phone

[gloomy pier]

all you would need to do is to basically put that bt device somewhere near any computer or laptop you can put next to it with an ethernet plug

[cyan vapor]

and used our sticker with the stuff on it

[gloomy pier]

then plug the ethernet cable into the LAN1 port in the side of the BT disc thing, and then the other end into your PC or laptop

[cyan vapor]

Mhm

[gloomy pier]

yeah then you would just open up a browser window and go to that address, log in

once you have that logged in though you'll be able to see every device that's accessing the network

in a nice graphical setting anyway

[cyan vapor]

Found it. Just gonna get the password

[gloomy pier]

word, good stuff, i gotta go to the grocery store

[cyan vapor]

One question

[gloomy pier]

ill be back later but, make sure when you run any speed tests that you have wifi disabled when you are using etherenet and vice versa

sure, shoot

[cyan vapor]

If you were me, what would you do to better the pc wifi performance as that’s the only device I’m having issue with?

A new card or just leave it

[gloomy pier]

honestly its kind of hard to say because if the max speed is 51 mbps, that's unfortunately pretty slow, and having fluctuations between speeds is pretty common, which sucks because a difference of 5 mbps from a 51 mbps max is a decent size dloss.

also im not sure but i do thhink the little repeater/expander box you bought that plugs into the outlet and gives you an ethernet jack (the one with the antennas that'll connect via wifi to your existing wifi network) is at least 100mbps capable, if its the one im thinking of

more than happy to help you figure it out when i get back, could also be congested channels that you would change in the control panel, there's an app you can use to test to see what channels are in use by your neighbors if you live in a densely popualated area

[cyan vapor]

Thank you so much for your help

[thick minnow]

oh speaking of AC, how expensive are APs? mine only goes up to N and I only have one device capable of AC, everything else is B/G or N

I'd need it to have at least 2 radios and 3 SSIDs, one for WEP legacy and 2 for main

I live in the absolute middle of nowhere so I'm not worried about someone guessing the WEP key, I'd notice if someone was sitting outside

[hallow hull]

Ty

[earnest orchid]

can i use https://www.amazon.com/QNAP-QNA-T310G1S-Thunderbolt-Adaptor-Single-Port/dp/B07KTLP44W/ by using a usb c 3.2 gen 2x2 port?

[opal pagoda]

no, that device is thunderbolt 3

[rocky badge]

It’s hard to find USB 10 gig adapters

[opal pagoda]

i know 5gigabit ones exist but they are flakey
2.5g ones work fine doe

[rocky badge]

Mainly because a lot of “usb 3” ports out there are like 10 gig, so accounting for usb overhead is 6 gig. USB latency is also higher…that doesn’t even start to account for how manufacturers are linking a usb controller.

Plus you don’t want a single 10g connection over-saturating the root controller

Thunderbolt mitigates this because it’s a pcie 4 lane connection dedicated to that port

[peak cloak]

Not that expensive

Ax aka wifi 6 are even more expensive

https://a.co/d/hWD7kkp

This is the one I have

[main tartan]

Hi there, since a few months I've been running two U6 Mesh access points from Ubiquiti. And I would like to combine that with one of their Unifi routers. I was thinking of buying the UniFi Dream Router, but I've read mixed opinions about it. Is there anyone here that has that router and could share some of their experiences?

[tropic lintel]

i have the ax3000(eap650) from tplink, and it's pretty nice. i get great speed and coverage, then run a range extender to help out the rest of the way.

[peak cloak]

Wouldn't recommend range extenders

Get another access point if possible

[pseudo blade]

They're fine if they're decent and have two radios so they can rebroadcast on a different frequency.

"Range extenders" seemingly rarely do though.

[main tartan]

Welp, I just ordered the Unifi Dream Router.

If I end up hating it, I'll just return it.

[broken jetty]

I've been compiling a list of things I need to wire my house with ethernet, and I've decided to go with fs.com for as much as possible. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like I can buy less than 1000ft of ethernet (which is far, far more than I need) without buying patch cables, which don't seem like they're intended to be used like that. Would it be OK to buy long patch cables (they sell up to 50ft) and cut them when needed to fit keystones, or should I find another seller?

[opal pagoda]

or you can get "range extender" and run a ethernet cable to it or powerline

[opal pagoda]

problem with patch cables is that they are stranded cables and not solid
also here i can buy 100 meters of cat6a cable or by the length

[broken jetty]

What's the difference between stranded and solid?

[opal pagoda]

also dont buy cca cables (copper clad aluminium)

[broken jetty]

Are those just lower-quality?

The one I have my eye on is this one
https://www.fs.com/uk/products/70595.html

[opal pagoda]

yes, and they are more likely to break when you are running it

also dont get 26awg cable, they are also pain to terminate

[broken jetty]

What's the difference between various AWG ratings?

I know they're a measure of wire thickness, but that's about it.

[opal pagoda]

maybe its just my specific connectors that you crimp on but the teeth dont puncture insulation properly on thin cables

[peak cloak]

That's just another access point

[broken jetty]

FS do seem to sell solid patch cables, would this one be suitable?

https://www.fs.com/uk/products/151694.html

[opal pagoda]

tbh its funny that routers and range extenders are cheaper than actual access points

[waxen scroll]

They're priced for business use

[peak cloak]

You can get a basic AP for under 50 bucks

[opal pagoda]

i have a 20 euro router that i put into access point mode

for garage

[thick minnow]

i wonder if it would even be worth upgrading. we have terrible internet, at most only 5mbit so i use my phone on my pc but i'd like the higher speeds for accessing local things such as my VM box and my NAS

currently my wifi tops out at 150mbit according to iperf

150 down, about 20 - 40 up

though the upload is probably dependant on the device

2.4 and 5GHz performance is the same so i just run 2.4, there's only one more AP in the house (isp provided) on the complete opposite end of the band and there's no other wifi networks in range

also, what VPN should i use to bypass stream saver? getting tired of youtube getting throttled to 1.5mbit, VPN used to get around it but rarely does anymore

[opal pagoda]

stream saver?

[astral creek]

We are building a shed, and we are running Power and Ethernet down to it. We only have 300Mbps Internet, and we want to run both of those cables together in the same conduit. Is it really that bad to run them together? I know it is not ideal, but at most we are going to have an Amazon Alexa at the other end.

[waxen scroll]

It's against building codes

[astral creek]

We are not worried about that...

[opal pagoda]

run fiber and use media converter on both ends

[astral creek]

okay. thank you

[thick minnow]

something AT&T does, they throttle youtube and other streaming services to 1.5mbit despite me having 120 down with "4g"

its obnoxious

[pseudo blade]

Wireguard is nice

Can be pretty fast too even without hardware acceleration unlike some other VPNs

[opal pagoda]

yes but some services like netflix block ip adresses comming from datacenters

[pseudo blade]

Haven't had issues myself but if you did you could link back to your home if it has fast internet

[opal pagoda]

you run your own vpn on vps?

[pseudo blade]

I do

But not really for netflix and the like

For my little business thing

Wireguard's amazingly easy to run that way, just take Ubuntu or whatever, enable ip forwarding, install the tools, generate a keypair for both sides, stick the local private and remote public keys in a config and tell both sides in their configs what to send where and your client where the server is then restart Wireguard. Like any online service do your port forwarding if needed obviously.

[thick minnow]

i just want a vpn that will let me watch youtube without letting my isp know i am

[peak cloak]

I mean I don't care about that

I barely use a VPN

It's not like the ISP cares

[thick minnow]

for me i care bc AT&T throttles youtube to 1.5mbit

vpn used to bypass it but it no longer does

[peak cloak]

Weird, is that home internet or mobile

[thick minnow]

mobile, my home internet struggles to even hit 1mbit bc ADSL

i use mobile on my pc and home for everything else

[meager ginkgo]

T-Mobile does the same thing

You have to manually enable 4K UHD video on the line

[thick minnow]

we told AT&T to disable stream saver

they never didi looked up how, it says you can in the app

the option does not exist

[meager ginkgo]

Sounds like an AT&T move

😂

[thick minnow]

its gotten to the point where i'll start downloading everything i wanna watch

im tired of my shit buffering for 20 seconds and playing for 5

[solemn cove]

Hey guys, I have a question.

I have a 1gb home network.

I want to connect two computers through 2.5gb ethernet (integrated NICs) but my router and switch are both 1gb.

Do I have any cheap options?

[faint bronze]

Connect them directly and set up static routes.

[forest steppe]

Yo guys, Glasswire lifetime licenses will no longer be available on Steam. They’re subscription-only now so this is the last chance to grab a lifetime key if you’re interested. Steam’s Glasswire keys are “legacy licenses” that provide lifetime access to future minor/major upgrades. https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/355000/view/3641756303024773121?l=english

[keen urchin]

ok

so you want a diagramming tool. I use https://lucidchart.io

[near dove]

Thanks 😊

[silk crystal]

Yo why doesnt my ethernet light up? This happend after i fixed my ram

[digital wren]

what are you transferring over the network that's large file sized?

cuz plex and related viodeo viewing and such doesn't need much bandwidth

[solemn cove]

Lots of RAR files and server backup images

[digital wren]

so as mentioned: Direct ethernet with static IPs set on both ends to talk

or buy a 2.5g switch

(but the first needs a second ethernet for your internet)

[solemn cove]

So, and just to make sure I have this right:

I could install a second, 2.5gb NIC in each, then direct run a cable, set each to connect to static IP of other machine, and we're gold?

[dreamy whale]

Any idea if chromecasts work when in different networks? My subnet mask is 255.255.255.224(/27) so my tablet might be in network 192.168.69.64 while the chromecast is in 192.168.69.96

[peak cloak]

Yeah basically, you would set a static IP on the new interface. Something like 192.168.60.2/24 and 192.168.60.3/24

[peak cloak]

No Chromecast does not work across different networks

[dreamy whale]

Ah fug

[peak cloak]

https://community.fortinet.com/t5/FortiGate/Technical-Tip-Chromecast-across-subnets/ta-p/197431

You can make it work though

[dreamy whale]

Ah sick. I have an 8 port "router" which doesn't support switching

So I must have each port as a seperate network

[peak cloak]

I mean it's just strictly a router...

[unborn sluice]

it is a router without the double quotes

[dreamy whale]

It's a firewall I use as a router

[dreamy whale]

Nope, it's actually a firewall

[broken jetty]

I've been compiling a shopping list for wiring my house with ethernet, and I've decided to use fs.com wherever possible (so that I don't have to worry about accidentally buying something awful), but they only sell non-patch cables in 1000ft boxes, which is far, far more than I need. Would it be a terrible idea to buy these cables instead? https://www.fs.com/uk/products/151696.html?attribute=36283&id=622822

I've checked, and they are solid cables, even though they are patch.

[opal pagoda]

didnt you say you have 4g?

[peak cloak]

How much do you need? 500ft?

https://www.truecable.com/collections/buy-ethernet-cable-online

True cable is good

[broken jetty]

I don’t know, but I’m only making four or five runs and my house is tiny.

I’m still looking for the plans 😄

[peak cloak]

I just bought a 500ft box and it lasted for a couple of years while I added runes

[broken jetty]

The company you recommended doesn’t ship to the UK, which is also why I didn’t go with the infamous Infinite Cables.

[opal pagoda]

https://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/cat6a-cable/90010-cat6a-uftp-lszh-b2ca-solid-cable.html
they offer this cable at 100m reel

[digital wren]

Or do the cheap way and add a 1g nic and use the 1g for internet

[crisp tiger]

does anyone know why my download speed ramps up very slowly and / or how to fix it? Like it starts at about 1mb/s and then slowly goes faster. I've just moved to a new place and had to install 5G home broadband, because the subscription I used to have was over the copper network which has recently been shut down for good. It only happens on my PC, and not on my phone. It's especially annoying for small updates that are only a few hundred mb

[thick minnow]

phone networks tend to skew to favor small short packets, like single web requests. To do longer, high speed things requires allocating more radio frequencies. Cable modems do this too, they start out with one channel, then if needed, try to get more to increase bandwidth.

also, anytime you use radio frequencies, wifi, 4G/5G, you have to deal with competition, shared and limited bandwidth. Your speeds can change any time, based on other users usage

[quiet bolt]

I'm running a proxmox server and I'm trying to setup a GRE tunnel to get some IPs and I keep getting the same error:

unsupported address method 'gre'

I've checked and GRE is enabled as a kernel module

and it works if I add the tunnel via ip tunnel

Just not in /etc/network/interfaces

[signal thistle]

Anyone know of how I can use a phone's regular data for hotspotting?

PDAnet doesn't seem to work with the likes of the steam deck and my ipad

But if someone knows how I can have another device connected via PDAnet that then makes a hotspot then that would work.

[thick minnow]

You might want to look into netplan. I know Ubuntu uses it, and it supports GRE tunnels out of the box.

[opal pagoda]

what is pdanet?

[signal thistle]

Could you explain as to how it works?

[thick minnow]

just google netplan gre tunnel

[signal thistle]

Mobile phone hotspot but with it not being seen as a hotspot

[thick minnow]

you create an /etc/netplan/whatever file, defining your network

[signal thistle]

Roger that works good for me

[opal pagoda]

does your phone provider block regular hotspots or something?

[thick minnow]

don't leave what ubuntu puts in the /'etc/netplan in there. create a new file, and delete the old one, so you don't lose your changes

[thick minnow]

most us cell phone companies charge extra to allow hotspots

[peak cloak]

no, you don't want to use netplan on debian, especially on proxmox

it's just offloading the problem instead of fixing it

[signal thistle]

Yes and even if they did I would not be getting unlimited data like I do normally while not on hotspot

[opal pagoda]

im lucky they dont care here

[thick minnow]

Debian doesn't use netplan, Ubuntu does

[signal thistle]

I tried Googling netplan gre tunnel but I'm seeing troubleshooting threads.

I'm wanting to learn more about it, is there a website I could check out to learn more?

[thick minnow]

I like netplan, because it works. Unlike RHEL's /etc/sysconfig/network-interfaces/ifcfg* files, or debian's /etc/network/interfaces file. That stuff is so fragile

can I post links here?

[peak cloak]

yes..., and proxmox is debian

[thick minnow]

ah, never used it. good to know

[signal thistle]

I remember in windows you could forward a wifi connection to be shared via a port and vise versa.

So something that I could run PDAnet on and then forward the internet data stream that would work as well

[thick minnow]

I use LXC on my ubuntu servers. Harder to setup, but works well, and completely customizable

[signal thistle]

I think you can. I posted some amazon links here before

[signal thistle]

LXC?

[thick minnow]

LXC is the original container package. Docker, LXD, all the rest came after LXC

[opal pagoda]

yea

[peak cloak]

yeah I use LXC too, just through proxmox

[thick minnow]

https://netplan.io/examples#connecting-an-ip-tunnel documents using "a tunnel" and https://netplan.io/reference#properties-for-device-type-tunnels documents all t he options for netplan's tunnels section.

One of the most confusing parts of LXC is that the LXD package, which Ubuntu developed afterards, and seems fairly unique to Ubuntu, the main command is "lxc". This is NOT LXC, this is LXD. LXC commands all start with "lxc-*" like "lxc-create", "lxc-attach", "lxc-start"

Netplan really makes networking easier. You create a YAML file that defines your config. My LXC server has an ethernet interface an bridge br0 connected to the ethernet interface, so my containers can be on the raw ethernet, peers of the host, rather than NAT'd children.

network:
version: 2
renderer: networkd
ethernets:
enp0s5:
dhcp4: false
dhcp6: false
bridges:
br0:
interfaces:
- enp0s5
dhcp4: false
dhcp6: true
addresses:
- 192.168.1.22/24
routes:
- to: default
via: 192.168.1.1
nameservers:
addresses: [192.168.1.1]
search: [example.com]

LXC and docker create their own bridges automatically, so I can choose to run containers inside the host, or outside the host, kind of like VMs.

[signal thistle]

Oh, why thank you very much for this. I'll definitely look into it

[solemn cove]

https://tenor.com/view/fair-that-is-fair-chris-farley-enough-okay-gif-12224131

[forest vector]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5515370 I found this. Looks cool :)

[thick minnow]

I no longer understand the desire to "collect physical things", like tera/peta bytes of video/audio files. I lost everything to a house fire 9 years ago, and no longer care about "things" like that anymore. They don't matter. People, pets, and relationships matter far more than things.

experiences too

[waxen scroll]

Agree. No point to a nas

How often are you really going to watch old content. Never

Or stream it

[pseudo blade]

Each to their own. Some stuff disappears from the internet and I can't get it back later. I don't keep enough to warrant a NAS for archive though.

[waxen scroll]

I didn't say you can't have a few TB of local

[pseudo blade]

If I had a few terabytes I probably would build a NAS

[real flower]

has anyone here user eero pro 6 wifi AP's with pfsense? I can't seem to get it to work right.

i have the basic pfsense setup to have it work properly as a normal router. i just need to get the wifi AP's hooked up.

[opal pagoda]

so basically a disk shelf

[fervent sail]

I can’t keep a tally of how many time DNS screws me

[clear igloo]

You mean the network 😛

It's never DNS /s

[fervent sail]

It was DNS

My ISP Provided smart tv box thing stoped working yesterday I can’t figure out why, I called them they can’t figure it out, they just called me back I told them I have a custom DNS server(Pi hole) they said try to change it back, I did and after a restart of the whole rack it’s working fine, I can hear the tech say before they hung up “it’s the customer’s DNS”

[clear igloo]

lol

[fervent sail]

And then I reflash the pi but my laptop can’t reach the internet it pings 1.1.1.1 but DNS just won’t resolve, I should’ve noticed a lit-up wireguard icon in the toolbar and the 10+ms latency on the terminal, I run nslookup it kept going to the pi but I told it not to, I click around in settings and there it is what’s under my home wireguard profile it’s a big green dot with the word connected right next to it, and yes that wireguard profile forces client DNS through the pi that’s why it isn’t working, turn that off and it’s fixed now

Maybe it's isnt DNS I just need a bit more sleep

[carmine moss]

Stupid isp TV boxes yep hate them so much I need to bridge mine to the wan port for it to work on a different router then the isp one

[bold bone]

Can someone recommend me a wifi card not too expensive good speeds

i dont know jack about them

[opal pagoda]

budget, important features, bluetooth, wifi 5 or 6 or 6e?

[bold bone]

stupid question but whats the difference between them? and my budget is like $40 maximum

[opal pagoda]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z44BD3/gigabyte-gc-wbax200-pcie-x1-80211abgnacax-wi-fi-adapter-gc-wbax200
well do you want a usb one or internal
the one i sent is pretty good, its wifi 6 capable and its has intel card on it so its reliable

[bold bone]

internal

ill check it out

[waxen scroll]

stop it. you're done. leave please

[clear igloo]

No, the DNS broke the network, I saw it!!

[waxen scroll]

[pseudo blade]

Let's just go back to serial terminals

[clear igloo]

and classful addressing and RIPv1

[pseudo blade]

Nah, there's only like 3 machines on the internet, static routing is fine

[waxen scroll]

nerd

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge im trying to get my company to buy 200 extreme switches

I need cheap managed OOB

[clear igloo]

Just do ACI for OOB mgmt 😄

[waxen scroll]

no.

did you know the MSRP on switches that can run fex mode are like $17k ?

[clear igloo]

Yup, it's stupid

[rocky badge]

lol

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo sales would probably rage if I ordered C9300 for datacenter

[clear igloo]

C9200, go cheap 😄

[waxen scroll]

idk I kind of want 100G support

just incase

[clear igloo]

lol, 100g management 😄

[thick minnow]

i do 10gbps at my house to the internet and it is an interesting experience. it anything ever uses the full link its frightening

[fallen grove]

Hey is the tp link sg1024s 24 port gigabyte switch worth it for a newer home network switch

[tall zodiac]

What in the home will it be used for?

[earnest orchid]

this good? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B56M7MVG?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[pseudo blade]

Never heard of them and online coverage is scarce but what's there does not fill me with confidence. Some of the reviews don't make sense and Fakespot reckons a good number aren't legitimate. Apparently they are rebadged under a few brands.

[earnest orchid]

ok

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-SX3008F-Enterprise-Integrated-Protection/dp/B0973T7BGL/ this is surely good then, right?

[tall zodiac]

I would reccomend this switch if you got a litle bit more money you could spend
https://mikrotik.com/product/crs309_1g_8s_in

I personaly haven't had the best exprience with TP-link switches

[peak cloak]

It's TP-Link omada so it should be better

[tall zodiac]

Yes, but i also dislike cloud control for my it equipment, i am a more of a fan of local controll like mikrotik and ubiquiti offer

[pseudo blade]

I would also.

But as a counterpoint the TP-links are a bit cheaper and easier to find if full L3 functionality isn't important.

[lone sun]

So if the loop back address isn't pinging, that means the TCP/IP software or protocol isn't working right? And if so, I was told you can then check the "network connections" page to perhaps see if the TCP/IP software is installed, or try reinstalling I guess. This is correct right?

[pseudo blade]

You can run the controller yourself exactly like Ubiquiti offers

[bold orbit]

Yo, anyone with decent MikroTik knowledge here? DM me please

[pseudo blade]

I do, but perhaps you could explain a little about what you're looking for?

[bold orbit]

I didn't want to ask directly here, as the channel is not meant for support purposes. It's related to the virtual interface.

[pseudo blade]

Sure

[fervent brook]

too much?

[static moat]

you read my dm?

[pseudo blade]

It's $8.49 for a quad-core gigabit router with 5ghz beamforming. I doubt you'll get much better for the price.

It's pretty old. But it's $8.49

Could be a good openwrt candidate

[fervent brook]

but will it be able to serve my zero bedroom apartment with one resident(me)?

[pseudo blade]

Trivially

[fervent brook]

it'll be replacing...I think it's a ea7500

[pseudo blade]

I would generally assume either device would work for that

[fervent brook]

I also have a TP-Link Archer C3000 in AP Mode

[pseudo blade]

Not sure why you'd bother with one person in a small space but sure

[fervent brook]

I wonder sometimes too, but for some reason I only get decent transfer speeds to my tablet from the second router's second 5ghz radio

[pseudo blade]

I'd guess congestion on one of the other frequency bands you're using.

[cinder plank]

I have a nas with photos in disorganized folders. how can reorganize them without passing data over the network for every move operation? does smb support moves within the same share without network transfers?

[pseudo blade]

Supported as of Sambda 4.1/SMB2 but who knows what your NAS runs. Perform the sort operation on the NAS itself if it doesn't offload properly?

https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Server-Side_Copy

[cinder plank]

Its an UnRAID NAS, so i guess samba can be updated. If it can't, is there a drag-n-drop move function that can be done on the NAS or will it have to be command line?

[pseudo blade]

Not sure I'm afraid, I don't use UnRAID.

[cinder plank]

I think it's just a headless linux distro. Do you know linux?

[pseudo blade]

I certainly get by enough to do what I want with it. If you want anything specific perhaps #linux is your friend.

[cinder plank]

unraid "server-side copy" is a good google term for me to look into it more, thanks.

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo wat

https://www.wayup.com/i-Computer-Networking-j-Community-College-Candidates-Insight-into-Cisco-Cisco-144669848140781/

[warped tendon]

What is the basics required to start creating say, RJ45 CAT6 cables?

[waxen saddle]

The cables themselves or terminating the ends to make custom-length pluggable RJ45 ethernet cables?

[warped tendon]

Terminating.

I am guessing all I need to a crimping tool, connectors & boots if I want them. Is there anything else normally?

[waxen saddle]

You’ll need rj45 connectors, crimping tool, boots (for that professional touch), a stripping tool, and I use a pair of cheap flush-cutters.

The flush cutters are really handy for helping to strip away additional shielding on shielded cables, like on CAT6A cables.

Oh. And don’t forget to allow yourself plenty of practice cable and connectors. If you’re just starting out and want to make 2 cables, don’t spring for the 5-pack connectors. Maybe get at least a 10-pack.

Aside from that, if you are starting out, check out more than 1 cable making video. They’re super helpful.
My personal technique is that once I am about to place the wires in the connector, I hold the wires and cable in my left hand-poised to insert, but before i do, with my right-hand, i grab the exposed wires and give them a tiny left-right bend, and if need be, an tiny up-down bend as well, this makes the wires incredibly straight and true and super easy to insert without them going scrawly.

Hopefully that made sense. Lol

Always check, double-check, and triple check the wire order as you go. Especially after inserting. Make sure the wires are pushed all the way to the end of the connector while crimping.

For wire-order, I stick with T-568A for both ends and I’ve never ever had any issues. But some older NIC’s might. So.. adapt as needed. 🙂

[warped tendon]

Thank you very much for the advice, much appreciated.

[waxen saddle]

NP mate.

[peak cloak]

the order doesn't matter as long as it's the same on both ends

I stick with B

[waxen saddle]

The middle wires (at least the blue) is thicker as it was spec’d to carry telephone signal. I figure the NIC’s have been made to account for the thicker wire, so I always crimp to a spec. Maybe it doesn’t matter, but I like to deliver my best, according to standards. 🙂

[peak cloak]

that's the first time I heard about them being thicker

that would make sense to why the other pairs seems less twisted

but I doubt it matters for NICs

[pseudo blade]

The NIC isn't going to check the impedance and sound the alarm or anything

There is some pretty pathetic network cabling out there that still kinda works

[waxen saddle]

True. For me at least, I don’t want any questions when it comes to speed/reliability. Sure it works, but can I get 50mbit more out of the cable by making the cable well, and to spec? No idea. Never tested. But I like to imagine so. Lol

[pseudo blade]

Almost never unless one of your pairs has a problem and it negotiates at 100mbps

I guess if your shielding sucked/pairs weren't twisted right it'd make a difference at high speeds because the signal wouldn't be received right

So long distance 10 gigabit for example

[dreamy whale]

So I finally for everything to work as I wanted on the router/firewall side

But then, I realized that it doesn't fit in the networking panel

[shy spade]

Can also find unmanaged switches second hand from businesses upgrading their hardware

[rocky badge]

B ftw

[rare thunder]

Is bitdefender a dedicated or a shared VPN model?

[pseudo blade]

Are you asking if BitDefender runs a VPN server for every customer?

[rare thunder]

yes

[pseudo blade]

They do not.

[rare thunder]

What kind of tools would be required to allow people on my network to have tiktok on their phones but not allow them to steal data from other devices across the network and even minimize the amount of data that's harvested on the device itself. I expect it'd have to be a really complex set of layered security software. Linus should do a video on something like this.

[shy spade]

put them on a different network

Like I know with my router which has asus-wrt just I can make a guest network and have them on that.

no access to any smart devices/nas because they are not on the same network

[rare thunder]

but that wouldnt stop them from milling data on the device itself

that is an effective solution for everything else

and it makes sense I will certainly look into it

[shy spade]

i dont know about schizophrenic levels of data security

[rare thunder]

I don't know much about anything of VPN or securing internet data

[shy spade]

I imagine the only thing would be dont use tik tok in the first place

[rare thunder]

so im just throwing out questions

but that really made me laugh lmao

[shy spade]

sort of have to pick your battles when it comes to data

[rare thunder]

or have like a compartmentalized physical device

thats only for TIktok Use

on a compartmentalized netowrk

[shy spade]

I dont understand how this would work at all like the whole way that these media platforms work is they mine your data to give you more recommendations

its by design

[rare thunder]

yeah but TikTok reaches across you network and steals excessive data from devices that dont have tiktok

[shy spade]

creating walls or whatever would just effectively defeat the purpose of the app in the first place

[rare thunder]

and i just dont agree with that in principle

I dont mind tiktok logging what i do in its app to make reccomendations within it's own ecosystem

[shy spade]

yea true

[rare thunder]

but from the research i've done on the subject that is indeed the case with tiktok

[shy spade]

yea theres nothing you can do except dont use the app Im pretty sure

[rare thunder]

I definitely think having a blank device with only Tiktok installed and just logging into tiktok accounts on a compartmentalize wifi router is a user friendly simplified way of solving the problem.

What router do you use?

[shy spade]

i have an Asus router RT-AC68U

[rare thunder]

can you delete and instance the networks at will? I imagine you would

[shy spade]

yea maybe you could create a vpn tunnel specifically for tiktok

that way its using the VPN and that not in your home network?

[rare thunder]

this is why I come here and nowehere else. is this excatly

[shy spade]

i dont know if you can specifically route app traffic

[rare thunder]

You'd have to build an app to contain it i think

like monitor all the traffic and log all the ports

and how much data is going through all those ports etc

and then route the traffic from those ports and launch tiktok through the app

that would be a very UX way of doing it

[shy spade]

this is such a niche thing I dont think this exists

[rare thunder]

No, i'd have to like contract someone to make it

If i tried really hard and spent a lot fo time I could probably make it but thats outside of myskillset it'd be so much easier and cost effective to outsource it

[shy spade]

but why

[rare thunder]

because a lot of users want to use tiktok on their home networks and its on the verge of being banned in the US

could be a big solution

[shy spade]

like if we were to draw a venn diagram of ultra schizo data security people and people who enjoy mindless tiktoks for hours on end i dont think there would be any overlap

[rare thunder]

that's true

[shy spade]

heck do they even use android/ios phones they use some kinda linux weird phone

[rare thunder]

i'm sure some fo them are married though

and have wives that want to use tiktok

[shy spade]

I mean the most you gonna see out of this is a 3rd party app (or even just 1st party) that can be sideloaded

data is going to take a backseat

an android VM with tik tok installed

[rare thunder]

Yeah that was the stupidest idea i started with

[rocky hawk]

Hey 🙂 I'm looking to replace my girlfriend's Ubiquiti DreamRouter which unfortunately cannot handle a 1Gbit ISP connection and maxes out at 700Mbit. I need something with WiFi6 and good parental controls (scheduled internet access and remote management) for the time her kid is visiting.

I don't have any budget restrictions, I've considered netgear nighthawk RAXE300, but it locks the parental controls behind a subscription which I'm not a big fan of

[vernal sedge]

You could get a dream machine pro with a ubiquiti access point

[rocky hawk]

I have two of those setups (one with UDM Pro, one with UDM SE) at home and in my office, they are way too big. I need something smaller

It definitely has to be something smaller, preferably all-in-one. It's a tiny 48m^2 apartment and the space limited cabinet in the hallway won't be able to fit a rack-mounted UDM

[vernal sedge]

Ok I have used ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AXE11000 it supports 2.5g but in reality lower once you turn on parental controls that is why UDR is slower once you turn on rules

[pseudo blade]

The Wireguard app on Android will do this natively - per-app VPN tunneling.

Some other VPN apps also offer this feature.

[rocky hawk]

UDR is slower even when you turn off rules 😦 They have a long topic on their forum, it's 700Mbit no matter what

[pseudo blade]

Do you care about IPS and content filtering, or just time of day?

[rocky hawk]

I don't care about content filtering, just time of day 🙂

[vernal sedge]

It is annoying it forced me to get a udm pro

[rocky hawk]

and remotely enabling/disabling internet access for device groups

[pseudo blade]

And you need gigabit over WiFi or just ethernet?

[vernal sedge]

The ASUS has a great app which allows you to do that

[rocky hawk]

She doesn't have a public IP address, does it work like Unifi console remote access or Netgear Access Anywhere?

[vernal sedge]

It did for me I had slightly older model

[rocky hawk]

I had bad experiences with Asus routers before, I've migrated to UDM Pro from ZenWifi XT8 which was super unstable

[rocky hawk]

but I might give it a try

[pseudo blade]

This will do it in one but is only WiFi 5 https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in

Oh nvm they have a WiFi 6 one now and it's cheaper https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ax3

But it's slower - 2 chain WiFi 6 vs 4 chain WiFi 5

[rocky hawk]

Looks interesting, but I'm not sure if she would put up with routerOS 😄

[pseudo blade]

Eh the app's easy unless you make it otherwise :P

[rocky hawk]

she's a software developer, not a network geek 😄

[pseudo blade]

If you make a router on a stick with dynamic routing you have only yourself to blame

[rocky hawk]

nevertheless thank you for suggestions, I'll read about both the Asus and that MikroTik and I'll see if there is a possibility to cram in a UDM SE + access point

[pseudo blade]

Probably look at the router+AP route if you want more than a UDR offers without Mikrotik or consumer junk

[rocky hawk]

yeah, I'm coming to terms that either I'll get her that some consumer router or I'll do a weird sideways mount of that UDM SE

thankfully I'm a software developer too, not a network engineer, so I won't cry while doing it 😉

[pseudo blade]

Just waiting for the person who jumps in and suggests you build your own with a pair of AX210s and OpenWRT on a NUC or similar

[rocky hawk]

Yeah, I was kinda expecting that too 😄 Either that or some enterprise cisco gear

Don't get me wrong, I sometimes like overkill, I have cat7 cables in the office and a 10Gbit ISP connection at home

but I wouldn't do that to anyone who doesn't like to tinker with this stuff

[pseudo blade]

I want speeds that justify a setup as stupid as this one https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2021-07-10-linux-25gbit-internet-router-pc-build/

Instead of any router capable of 100 megabit being sufficient

[rocky hawk]

I don't think 25Gbit is available from any of my local ISPs

[pseudo blade]

I don't think NBN Co has decided how many aircraft carriers per week that would cost yet

[rocky hawk]

Here 10Gbit up/down costs ~23 USD and ~1 USD for a public IP address

(monthly)

[pseudo blade]

Ah yes

[rocky hawk]

we call 50Mbps 'oh, Internet's down, better call the cable company' around here 😉

(that being said I used to live in California and I remember terrible ISPs and laggy connections)

[opal pagoda]

what country?

[rocky hawk]

Poland

[gusty storm]

So it's like 100 PLN ? That's an incredible deal

[fervent brook]

Well, turns out the E8350 I got is worse than my current router. Oh well.

[pseudo blade]

Shouldn't be, it's almost exactly the same but with a slightly better 5ghz setup

Same CPU even

Could be broken, I guess. It was $8.50

[worthy cloak]

Hey could I ask for some help with my ethernet connection ? I have not found anything about it and I've searched for months for a solution.

Ethernet disconnecting exactly after 10 mins exclusively on my pc and I also noticed that it changes from Network to Network 2 then Network again

[lone sun]

Do you have two ethernet cables connected at once? I don't see it can just switch unless you do.

[thick minnow]

you could just disable the adapter for the one not in use

[lone sun]

👆 What he said...or just, unplug it.

[thick minnow]

yeah but idk windows is strange so

it shouldn’t even try and use it if it doesn’t have a link because it wouldn’t be able to negotiate a connection

[worthy cloak]

i have 2 more but they are disabled. They are from a VPN so thats off

[thick minnow]

huh

[worthy cloak]

Could it be my ethernet port ? I thought of getting a PCI-e

[lone sun]

So the other network you're plugged into is disabled, and its still connecting? 😕

[worthy cloak]

No its not an actual network its just my VPN but the weird thing is that i do not have another network lemme show u

[green siren]

You saying the VPN disconnect you and reroute another network for you to enable the VPN again?

[thick minnow]

o lord

[worthy cloak]

o yes

[worthy cloak]

No wait lemme explain clearly

So basically after every 10 minutes my Ethernet get disconnected. It goes from Network 1 to Network 2 then it goes back to Network 1

[green siren]

Bouncing, I see.

[worthy cloak]

Oh and if i connect my phone to my pc through USB and tether the wifi its completely fine it does not have disconnections

[green siren]

This is more like hardware configuration problem.

[worthy cloak]

This started randomly after a year of owning the PC

[green siren]

You using modem or router?

If using router, you can switch to modem direct.

The wireless would be fine, it seems how you describe it.

[worthy cloak]

Its a router with integrated modem ? Cant really figure it out because the guide is german

[green siren]

Integrated, interesting.

Alright, let do step by step.

[lone sun]

🤔 Whats an integrated modem?

[green siren]

It a combo router.

[peak cloak]

router + modem

[lone sun]

ah

[worthy cloak]

I have no clue its a Fritzbox 7530 btw

[peak cloak]

common nowadays

[lone sun]

So, like, the type of modem you'd get from comcast? Like my XB7 modem?

[worthy cloak]

Has a website for the router as well

[green siren]

How many wire you have plugged in PC?

[peak cloak]

yes

that has a router build in as well

and switch, and access point

[lone sun]

ah

[worthy cloak]

3 + HDMI cable so i guess 4

[green siren]

I mean, the ethernet.

[worthy cloak]

oh.

damn it

[lone sun]

@worthy cloak Well shit, if its really a legit modem+router, then you don't need the other device.

[worthy cloak]

Ive plugged 1 before but i removed it and added another one

I only have 1 ethernet port on my pc

[green siren]

I see.

Usually, bouncing switching network always caused by VPN itself.

[worthy cloak]

I have no clue what it is honestly fritzbox is really bad

[peak cloak]

when you ping 1.1.1.1 when it errors out what is the exact error it gives back

[green siren]

You can try disable it through your router, but tradeoff security.

Since VPN design to switch network to hide your actual IP.

[worthy cloak]

I dont remember it letter by letter but its Disconnection Interrupted ? or something similar thats all

[lone sun]

@worthy cloak I mean, I just kept my life simple, bought a really long Cat6 ethernet cord, and routed it down to my XB7 modem in the basement to connect it to my Xfinity Flex box. No switch, or any other middle man necessary since the modem IS the switch and access point. 👍

[worthy cloak]

Heres the problem I went on a summer vacation for like 2 months and when I came the ethernet did not disconnect anymore but one day i just unplugged the ethernet for something and when I plugged it back in the problem started again. And I did not have a VPN then or ever i installed it like 2 weeks ago.

The problem has been going on for 9 months

[green siren]

Ah, I see.

Hard to do a troubleshoot without another PC test for the Ethernet cable.

[worthy cloak]

I use a TP link device rn but the problem also has been active before the TP link device

[lone sun]

So, you have a router, modem and tp link? Or is the TP Link the router you're referring to?

[worthy cloak]

No the tp link is like a wifi extender

[lone sun]

oh

[worthy cloak]

Just connects to the router a

[green siren]

Hard to solve this, but what I can give is check the Ethernet cable port, see if whether damage or not.
Or buy a USB port Wi-Fi adapter or PCI-E Wireless card to test stable performance.

This certain sound like, perhaps you damage the Ethernet port when you unplugged it.

[lone sun]

🤷‍♂️ I don't see why you can't just use the router as the wifi-extender, or "access point" per se. Its what they do in enterprise environments.

[worthy cloak]

I dont have a pcie wireless card lasknda

plus the problem started when i had the ethernet cable directly connected to my router

[lone sun]

The router or the modem?

[green siren]

They are combined.

[lone sun]

to be clear

oh

[green siren]

You can try another Ethernet cable if you have extra.

[worthy cloak]

I dont think I damaged it since i never disconnected it before and the problem started when the DSL broke for my whole neighbourhood

[green siren]

If you think DSL has problem, this is the problem to ISP.

[worthy cloak]

No I dont think so but I do know that somethings up with my pc

Plus my internet provider is vodafone

So thats a lost cause

[green siren]

You can switch to another provider, if there available in your area.

[lone sun]

@worthy cloak Tried restarting the modem or this here?:

[worthy cloak]

Tried both still didnt work ://

[lone sun]

Like, unplugging the modem didn't work either? @worthy cloak 😕

for a few seconds?

[green siren]

When you mention DSL, this is straight going ISP.

You know the cause of DSL break cause?

[worthy cloak]

Did it and waited 5 mins

still didnt do anything

[lone sun]

@worthy cloak So do you have another device to connect those ethernet cables to, like a laptop or something? That would help rule out the PC itself.

But its sounding like your ISP screwed something up though.

[worthy cloak]

DSL breaks at about 3:30 A.M. so its not a big deal so i do not care about it that much but DSL has nothing to do with my PC getting disconnecting cus my phone has internet all the time and doesnt get interrupted

[worthy cloak]

Yep tried to connect an ethernet cable to my laptop and it worked fine

its only my PC

[green siren]

PC bouncing network, although I experienced one.

Mine not using Ethernet cable, but using USB port adapter.

[worthy cloak]

There should be a command that does this right ? It cant be a coincidence if its exactly after 10 minutes

[green siren]

The config will automatically done it by itself.

[worthy cloak]

For example its been disconnecting at 20:10 20:20 20:30 etc.

[green siren]

Every single 10 minutes.

There are one common issues, not sure if it related to you currently.

If your Wi-Fi speed is 30 mbps, and there are 5 people using the internet speed over than 30 mbps, it will cause an unstable and bouncing network because modem need to reset because of high packet.

[green siren]

I do fix this problem when I switch to high speed network, from 30mbps to 100mbps.

[worthy cloak]

ugh

[green siren]

70 mbps, is a lot. Doesn't related.

[worthy cloak]

so 9 devices wouldnt bother it right

[green siren]

Do!

Definitely do!

You should check every device download speed usage.

[worthy cloak]

fritz box website helps with this

[green siren]

If the problem still occur even you optimized every device download speed, last maybe is on the PC itself.

[green siren]

5 GHz doesn't wall penetrate the signal.

Unless you using 5 GHz.

2.4 Ghz is penetrable wall, and signal is stable.

[worthy cloak]

No im using 2.4 ghz

[green siren]

That what I thought.

You don't have problem with signal issues.

Unless you using Windows 11.

[worthy cloak]

Nope I use 10

[green siren]

Still no problems.

What causing it, more like PC itself.

[worthy cloak]

And also a question since im not that experienced. Does a PCI-e card replace my current ethernet card ? or is it just an addition ?

Would I have to remove my original one or ?

[green siren]

You can try remove ethernet cable, and let the PCI-e do the job.

If there two network in your device, your device will likely constantly reset the network for you.

But that doesn't make sense.

[worthy cloak]

Okay so remove the ethernet cable and add the PCI-e ?

[green siren]

You can try, can't guarantee the magic.

[worthy cloak]

Im planning to buy one because i cant be bothered with this anymore its been going on for months

Do you have any recommendations for a PCI-e with stable network that wont affect my speed ? Amazon has some shady ones and I dont trust them honestly

[green siren]

Let me try to find one.

[worthy cloak]

Thank you a lot

[green siren]

Since I am not based on western country, I do can help a bit.

[worthy cloak]

Asked some other people about this problem and they just told me to get a PCI-e and it will fix but cant be sure of course

[green siren]

This is more on device problems.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZV2CJL2/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07ZV2CJL2&pd_rd_w=oPWdg&content-id=amzn1.sym.46bad5f6-1f0a-4167-9a8b-c8a82fa48a54&pf_rd_p=46bad5f6-1f0a-4167-9a8b-c8a82fa48a54&pf_rd_r=NJDNZJ3YYPECC5QV4PSD&pd_rd_wg=UgB7j&pd_rd_r=d2908669-3269-419a-835f-afd2cd80a047&s=electronics&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWw&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMk03Qk5KVVZKVkZGJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDMyNTUzM01XSFU2WEQ0VFJRNCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTE5NjQ2MlMxRUlXWlpMVDlZTSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

I can't guarantee if it shady or not, unless you go facebook marketplace and face to face seller a deal with available PCI-E wifi card.

[worthy cloak]

Hmm

[green siren]

This is the product I can find with good reputation and solid perform.

[worthy cloak]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/TP-LINK-TL-WN781ND-150Mbps-Wireless-Express/dp/B0036AFAEW/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=PCI-e+wlan+karte&qid=1673552057&sr=8-4

[green siren]

But quite costly.

[worthy cloak]

What about this one ?

[carmine moss]

can recomend cudy on amazon for pci-e wifi

[worthy cloak]

Yeah im looking for quite a lower price since my budget isnt really high right now

[carmine moss]

cudy is 30 a 40 for wifi 6 with an intel chip

[green siren]

Looks quite okay.

[worthy cloak]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/AX5400-Bluetooth-Module-802-11ax-Windows-Black-red/dp/B085R9R2B2/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3EDWYMPXYZP6A&keywords=cudy+PCI-e+karte&qid=1673552132&sprefix=cudy+pci-e+car%2Caps%2C200&sr=8-2

[carmine moss]

can't do much better speeds for that price also way better then that cheap tp link

[worthy cloak]

i think this one might do the job

[green siren]

Not so sure on this cudy one.

[worthy cloak]

whats up with it ?

[carmine moss]

this one is a nice cudy one the other one should be also good https://www.amazon.de/WE3000-Cudy-PCIe-Network-Cards/dp/B082NZYDDM/

[green siren]

This second cudy look fine to me.

[carmine moss]

it's an intel chip they are really good always the other one also has an intel chip just soldered on the mainboard

wich is why it's cheaper

[green siren]

The quality quite decent, not sure if the manufacturer will do a good job or straight go to "How to fail working".

But the price reasonable.

[carmine moss]

amazon warranty is quite good also

it's better then the cheap tp link one as has actually good sppeds also the intel chip of the one with the laptop card is really cheap lone between 20 a 30 for that wifi card cudy is just a working adaper card

hard to mess up a wifi card

[full monolith]

I just built my own unbound dns server with alot of cache size and a wireguard vpn to a different server with good peering to the dns server...

before that disney was loading over 2 seconds

[ebon sierra]

If I have a 5 port Gigabit ethernet switch,

Will 4 outputs lose speed when all pulling at once, or all get 1 gigabit?

My Boss (No networking degree/background) claims it splits them up (250megabits to each), but I believe that 1 gigabit should go to each

[peak cloak]

Depends

If everything is going upstream to a router, then yes it will need to be split up since you only have a gigabit upstream port

However you could also have devices communicate between themselves on a switch and that depends on the switch's switching capacity which varies

[ebon sierra]

This would go on a cart with 4 gaming rigs that can all be used for playing online games at the same time

Would you notice any significant performance loss?

[peak cloak]

Games don't use that much bandwidth

Only when downloading/updating

[ebon sierra]

Also people download stuff, but since thats downstream, and not up, it should be affected

[peak cloak]

Besides, what are your other options

Having a switch is the best option

[ebon sierra]

Well In this room we setup in, there is a networking panel with 16 ports (unsure on speed of the ports), we take 16 PCs and give them each a port

[peak cloak]

But then those 16 ports go to a switch I bet

[ebon sierra]

Yea

[peak cloak]

Which may have more than a gig upstream but also maybe not

[ebon sierra]

I have no clue if the pcs even support gigabit

Alienware spec Non Alienware Dell PCs so they could get the cooperate prices

[ebon sierra]

This is inside of a student union, so there is definetly a switch that it is plugged into somewhere

[full monolith]

Gigabit is default since like 2011 or something

My lga1155 mainboard from my first pc has full gigabit

[ebon sierra]

My best guess is they are gigabit

I wouldnt know why they wouldnt be

My boss thinks a Cat-5 Network splitter splits the bandwidths and such like a coax splitter

[peak cloak]

You don't want a splitter

Use a switch

[ebon sierra]

Yea thats what I mean

I accidentally use them interchangeable when referring to a switch

This is what I currently have in terms of setup,

Between Server0 and 16 Port Swtich (24) is unknown

This is what I want to do

[tall zodiac]

The only thing this setup(i think) would realicticly change is latency to the server

[ebon sierra]

I dont know what is between the server and the switch per say

So there could already be latency loss in there

[thick minnow]

if i have max DSL connection my isp provides in my location should i do smth about my speed being 3.2Mbit ? (around half at max it should be 6-6.25)

[pseudo blade]

Latency will be slightly higher but not by an amount anyone will care about, theoretically your preferred architecture reduces the bandwidth to computers on other switches but you're not planning on doing big transfers between them, right? If the upstream switch has greater than gigabit uplink speeds it will reduce total usable bandwidth for downloads locally... that's about it really.

I'm sure it'd work fine

[pseudo blade]

If all 4 computers don't talk to eachother and only connect to the uplink port they will need to share its gigabit speeds, though there's no guarantee it'll be fair and neat with 250mbps per port

[candid glacier]

Who still uses cat 5

[ebon sierra]

Me

[candid glacier]

Why

[ebon sierra]

Cause I don’t have cat 6

[peak cloak]

5 or 5e?

5e I have in my walls, it works just fine

[full monolith]

i use alot of 5e

even for short 1-2m 10G links

works fine

[peak cloak]

I wouldn't run 5e in the wall now, but if it's in the wall, can't really change it now

[thick minnow]

when my employer had a new office building built, we had them install rain gutters inside, at the top of both walls going up and down every hallway, with little bridges in the middle. We also had them build in 1" conduits, with gentle bends, connecting from the inside the gutter to each desk. It allowed us to run copper, coax, fiber, whatever we needed, which evolved quickly. It wasn't the "cheapest" option, but it was very much worth it. And it was surprisingly well camoflauged, having been painted the same color as the wall. Turns out no visitors ever noticed them.

But it was a small company (< 50) and everybody worked in a 1 or 2 person office. No cubicles.

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @peak cloak damn

wtf is "Campus TV"

[clear igloo]

tv on campus 😛

[meager ginkgo]

unless you have conduit 😛

[peak cloak]

True...

Don't have that luxury...

[meager ginkgo]

My dream house would have conduit basically everywhere

[peak cloak]

Had to do it after drywall

[meager ginkgo]

rip

we only have conduit to outside

inside no conduit.

[rocky badge]

@hollow marlin @meager ginkgo https://i.ryois.me/OmCeO6tuDc.png I am back to my dorm where the ISP uses a public range (DoD 11.0.0.0/8)

[shy spade]

Are you doxxing yourself

[hollow marlin]

All that IP space 🤮

[rocky badge]

It's awful lol

[hollow marlin]

Depending when they got the /8, they probably own it and will never let it go.

[slender patrol]

hi i have a question about wifi my ping times from wifi-client to router/wired-client is always very consitant like 3ms but in the other direction from router to wifi-client the ping times are like 2s or 200ms

[ebon blade]

Hey everyone, just upgraded to gigabit internet and discovered that my devices are not even hitting 400mbps on wired. If directly plugged into my modem, I'm pulling 970-ish mbps. I've got a RT-AX82U for my router and they all have gigabit ports so not sure what the issue could be. Any thoughts?

[peak cloak]

Router

[ebon blade]

Also for reference I have a S33 for my modem and the connection to my router is through the 2.5gig LAN port with a Cat6

[peak cloak]

Could not be able to nat that fast probably

[ebon blade]

Possible

That's what I figured

[peak cloak]

Port link speed != routing speed

Some manufacturers post routing / switching speed results but most consumer ones don't

[ebon blade]

Not exactly sure how to remedy unless if I ran it through an external switch I guess?

[peak cloak]

No, you need a better router

[ebon blade]

Figured. Dang

[peak cloak]

Unless your modem is also a router

One of those combos

[ebon blade]

Nah I got a ARRIS S33 as my modem

Sucks because I bought my router in 2021 for a hefty price

[peak cloak]

Yeah you can't do modem -> switch directly

Something has to NAT and route

[ebon blade]

Any recommendations that have 2.5gig LAN?

Or I guess one with enough throughput for gigabit where I can actually connect multiple computers and get gigabit on all of them?

Was looking around, think the TP-Link ER605 might do it?

[peak cloak]

I think so, I have that one

Keep in mind it's Ethernet only

Although I only have 300/300

[ebon blade]

Is it limited to 300?

Saw some reviews about that

[peak cloak]

No I only have 300/300 service

I saw it can do gigabit

[ebon blade]

Gotcha

Also yeah I'm aware it's wired. I can just use my router as an access point with one of those ports.

[peak cloak]

Yeah, just put it in AP mode

[ebon blade]

Hopefully it can handle the throughput and provide everything with gigabit

[candid glacier]

Does anyone know how to make a World Wide Web 2.0, because that's what I am trying to make?

[peak cloak]

?

[hallow junco]

ask Tim Berners-Lee

[sand narwhal]

So uh, I made an interesting discovery about my relatively new laptop. The stock wifi card supports monitor mode! Of course I've only tested this on my own wifi network, but yeah it works.

Asus Vivobook Pro 15 if anyone's curious, the one with a 3050 in it.

[cobalt turtle]

not gonna lie, idk if this is supposed to happen but im using a verizon broadband router and getting 23 down and 12 up even though im paying for 300 up/down

[peak cloak]

Are you on dsl still

Show a pic of router

And modem

[cobalt turtle]

dont have a modem im using fiber optic or whatever its called

[peak cloak]

ONT

Because those speeds sound like dsl

[cobalt turtle]

alr gimme a se

[cobalt turtle]

dont mind the dust lol

[iron canopy]

hello is it possible to have 1 desktop with WIFI to share it over Ethernet to a different one

[peak cloak]

It's probably the router

Looks like the old one

[cobalt turtle]

damn ale then

alr so ig i should just buy another 1

[peak cloak]

To verify you can plug PC directly in

To ONT

[deft canopy]

Hi everyone,

Before the question, the setup:

Internet Supplier Router ---> Multiple Deco X75, around the house, working great.

Because I upgraded the bandwith, I asked my internet supplier if I could use my own (Wifi 6E) router, and they said yes, so I ordered my router.

Now they tell me I can only use that router, if I connect it to their router, but isn't that gonna nullify the abilities of my own router?

I already have an extended range network through the deco's so no benefits there.
Should I install my router connected to theirs, or just their router?

[main tartan]

Hi there, I've recently gotten the UniFi Dream Router. And I've been trying to portforward my Minecraft server again. But I am running into an issue. The Minecraft server is not accessible outside my local network.

This is the output of netstat -ab

This is my UniFi configuration for port forwarding.

The Dream Router is connected through Ethernet to my ISPs modem.

I have setup the port forwarding on my ISPs modem as well.

And I have temporarily disabled my windows firewall.

But for some reason my Minecraft server is still inaccessible outside my local network.

Does anyone know what the issue could be? What should I change for it to work?

Btw I have tried it with Microsoft Remote Desktop and that works fine. But I have no idea how I could debug this.

[peak cloak]

Do you have a public ip

[main tartan]

Yes I do

[peak cloak]

Under interfaces, what are the first 2 octets of wan

[main tartan]

You mean this? 192.168?

[peak cloak]

Yes

You don't have a public ip

[main tartan]

Oh

[peak cloak]

At least not assigned to the router

I think you ISP modem is a modem/router and it's NATing

You have to put it in bridge mode

[main tartan]

Do I have to put the router/modem of my ISP in bridge mode?

My ISPs router doesn't support bridge mode.

What I might be able to do, after my ISP connects optic fiber internet, is directly connect the UDR to the optic fiber.

So I can leave the ISPs router/modem out of the equation.

I find it weird how it does work with Microsoft Remote Desktop though

[earnest orchid]

will a x8 nic run on pcie x16 slot with x4 bandwidth?

[oblique frost]

Hey, Hopefully this comes under networking.
My broadband wasn’t working last night soo I called my ISP, and they had their technician sent to have a look on the issue.
After seeing my router the technician said that its lagging? And I should probably change it. He said the lan indicator lights are on even though you don’t have a lan cable attached to the corresponding port. And apparently it’s flickering a lot and may harm the devices it’s connected to.

Is this something true?
If you want tag me soo I can attach a video of the router and you can pass your views on it.
Thanks a lot

[pseudo blade]

Can't recommend enough that you set up zerotier/tailscale/your own VPN instead of exposing RDP directly to the internet - exposed RDP has long been a recipe for disaster with both a long history of vulnerabilities and accounts with weak passwords with remote login permissions.

[main tartan]

My main account on my pc doesn't allow remote connections, I have a remote desktop account specifically for that. And its password is over 40 characters long.

But I get your concerns.

[waxen saddle]

It’s not just passwords and accounts though, it’s also vulnerabilities. Changing the default port can help masquerade what the actual service is a bit, but yea, I too recommend setting up VPN.

[digital wolf]

ruckus vs ubiquiti vs cisco What you choosing?

[waxen scroll]

for what

[digital wolf]

as router

[waxen scroll]

at a billion dollar business? cisco.

[digital wolf]

👏

redoing networking in my Dad bussniess I was thinking cisco as well

[waxen scroll]

ubiquiti can work at a small business but seems like they have supply issues and RMAs/Support are going to be slow. I cant speak for ruckus

[pseudo blade]

Pick what makes sense for the environment - how big, what do people already know, budget, scale, importance...

For myself I use a lot of Mikrotik stuff because it's cheap, manageable locally or remotely and because the RouterOS experience is very uniform - RouterOS devices are all pretty much offer the same but come in different shapes, port configs and performance.
It is however buggy and the API and scripting promise a lot but in practice are cumbersome and limited.

But that's for me

[thick minnow]

i like cisco i find it very easy to use especially cli and a lot of net engineers are very familiar with cisco tooling

even though it’s pretty pricey

[heavy solstice]

Beat my speed

[thick minnow]

oof

[heavy solstice]

Even my phone internet data way more faster

The Stone age wifi

[dire osprey]

good ping times though

[digital wolf]

What om is a black fiber cable? om2?

[opal pagoda]

find a writing on it

[digital wolf]

Ill check

guy installin fiber

probably using cheap shit lol

[opal pagoda]

its probally single mode doe

if you are getting fiber to the home

[digital wolf]

yeah

shouldnt i be on om3/4

[opal pagoda]

then its os2

[digital wolf]

i figure as much

Ill have to swap ofc lol

[opal pagoda]

why?

[digital wolf]

cause My server x.x

my company/home internet

aha

[peak cloak]

no

[thick minnow]

Hey guys I want to buy a server to host/use it for my application. Currently using Oracle online server provider 2 core 16gb ram and it's working good. Can someone suggest which server to buy and what will. Be sufficient to start

[peak cloak]

no, if it works there is absolutely no reason

and you shouldn't be changing anything on the ISP side

[peak cloak]

as in hardware?

[little schooner]

and when they release firmware updates to their access points, it still is a lot of issues with connection reliability on their u6 line of aps

it happens enough for me to notice and it's just awful. wifi calls would drop or YouTube will slow to a crawl and webpages stop loading

I just want something that's gonna work

[thick minnow]

Yes a hardware solution for which I will get static ip isp

And all the hardware and if someone can suggest software to get started that too would be helpful

[peak cloak]

well what do you want to run

and budget

[thick minnow]

Uner 1000$

Springboot server

SQL databases postgress etc

[opal pagoda]

how much does your power costs?

per kwh

[thick minnow]

I don't know my brother lives in Arizona

He will deploy it there

[opal pagoda]

you will also need a ups

[thick minnow]

Sure

Also i am bit confused as how to setup this as there is no definitive guide

For eg if i have a windows. Server/Linux then how will I. Host those application. There are ways to host using cloud but not proper documentation what software to use how to configure et

[opal pagoda]

btw how much do you spend monthly on cloud services?

[thick minnow]

50$ + 25$( for 1 tb storage)

[peak cloak]

A basic setup will use a hypervisor like proxmox

[digital wolf]

this is the cable

[meager ginkgo]

That is an ethernet cable, not a fiber cable

[digital wolf]

shit wrong photo

[meager ginkgo]

No need to change it. That will handle plenty of speed fine

[digital wolf]

Im suppost get 2.5

[meager ginkgo]

yes that will easily do 2.5

[digital wolf]

i dont even reach 1

e.o

[meager ginkgo]

sounds like a router issue

[digital wolf]

Router trash lol

[meager ginkgo]

all your equipment probably only has 1 gig ports

[digital wolf]

[peak cloak]

does router even have >1g interfaces

[digital wolf]

Probably not

its a provider trash

keke

[peak cloak]

then why are you blaming the fiber...

[digital wolf]

No the router

lmao

[peak cloak]

..

[digital wolf]

whatever XD

[pseudo blade]

The "M" in OM3/4 is Multi-mode, which is not capable of distances as high as single-mode fiber (OS<x>) and would be unsuitable for an ISP deployment going more than ~500 meters or less depending on speed. They use different optical core sizes so if you try to replace their single-mode with multimode fiber the result will be that your optics won't work because the light won't bounce along the cables properly. Any variant of single-mode fiber would be preferable to multi-mode if the cost of optics isn't a problem (and honestly you can get generic optics cheaply).

lol I wrote that for nothing, they left

Oh well maybe it'll help someone else unless the resident ISP-types want to weigh in on it

[pseudo blade]

There's no definitive guide because what you need to do depends on what you're making, relevant security concerns and how people will need to interact with it (Oh! and budget. There's many cool cloud things that will happily eat thousands or tens of thousands of dollars a month more than necessary if you use them wrong). But I recommend looking up how to deploy your dependencies for production so they meet those requirements and determining what kinds of system resources your app will need at production scale and providing those.

Here's Spring's documentation about deploying for production anyways https://docs.spring.io/spring-boot/docs/current/reference/html/deployment.html

If you want to know how to configure operating systems that's a bit more than I can fit in a response on Discord lol

[opal pagoda]

tbh if i needed to run that i would get 3 of those tiny mini micro pc-s and put them in proxmox high avalibility cluster and possibly on 2 locations
on cloud i would run wireguard so that they have static public ip

[pseudo blade]

Again it's doing to depend on exactly what you're doing - A system with only a few users might run really well on a 1 gigabyte RAM low-cpu cloud instance when tuned correctly and cost less than a local cluster.

[opal pagoda]

yup

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak @meager ginkgo

2 APs in this pic lmfao

[opal pagoda]

or if its not high availability you can get away with one machine

[rocky badge]

They put so many APs in this place

[opal pagoda]

airport?

[rocky badge]

Dining hall at my university

[pseudo blade]

I find irony in putting up two giant televisions to display a one-pager on waste reduction.

[rocky badge]

Ikr

[pseudo blade]

This is a really great solution for small businesses or branches that need local services if licensing permits

[waxen scroll]

I hate places that use digital signage for menus and dont keep them static

[rocky badge]

They don’t even show menu on the TVs

It rotates between 2 images, that 7 waste reduction and what the station name is

[pseudo blade]

Went to a fast food place recently, stood back and ignored them while they asked me for my order "I'm waiting for the relevant promotion to scroll by again, it looked interesting but it's gone now"

[peak cloak]

I can spot 8 at once

in mine

or maybe 6, don't remember

[pseudo blade]

8 APs in line of sight feels a bit much

[rocky badge]

Theres one behind me

[pseudo blade]

Mind you I think my uni had sectors, even the farm plots had pretty good wifi coverage

[rocky badge]

Oh yeah I get like at least 30Mbps anywhere on campus

[opal pagoda]

there is another

[rocky badge]

Damn

[opal pagoda]

yo wtf

[rocky badge]

It’s ALL WiFi 6

The entire campus is 6

[opal pagoda]

now use double sided tape and tape a esp32 with battery running deauther under a desk or chair

[rocky badge]

That 20MHz 5GHz channel is like 560Mbps PHY

[waxen scroll]

with all of those networks i'm SHOCKED theres no overlaps

[rocky badge]

@opal pagoda this space has like 300 data drops in the floor

[pseudo blade]

ESP32 won't do 5ghz

[rocky badge]

Each box has 16 drops

[pseudo blade]

It would still make a mess though

[rocky badge]

They went crazy

It’s fun watching AP leds change from green to blue while walking underneath

[opal pagoda]

esp32-c5 does

it does wifi6 too