networking

[peak cloak]

Just need to get the outer casing off

Some tools have a the outer casing stripper built in

I should setup more monitoring

[sonic notch]

Yee I was under the impression that you could use the strippers for that but guess not

[rocky badge]

I want to as well but idk what I wanna use

[peak cloak]

last time I used grafana with Prometheus

node exporter for apcupsd

[full monolith]

i need that tho

[rocky badge]

Rn I have basic uptime for email alerts but nothing with full device info and such @peak cloak https://status.ryois.me/status/internal

[full monolith]

like it

ive used that before but not in the way you configured it

i just used it in default webinterface disign

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/ohl02usj5z.png

[peak cloak]

AWS SES?

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[peak cloak]

how do you collect all the emails?

[rocky badge]

Exchange mailrule

[peak cloak]

do you run a local server that you "email"

[rocky badge]

no

Email can be sent locally to
smtp.internal.ryois.me

[waxen scroll]

When are you going to give me a Linux VM

[rocky badge]

Which is an AWS EC2 instance

From EC2 it sends via SES

https://i.ryois.me/fmtFAUaNlt.png

[rocky badge]

😳

services:
  relay:
    image: juanluisbaptiste/postfix:1
    restart: unless-stopped
    environment:
      SERVER_HOSTNAME: ${SERVER_HOSTNAME}
      SMTP_HEADER_TAG: ${SERVER_HOSTNAME}
      SMTP_NETWORKS: ${SMTP_NETWORKS}
      SMTP_SERVER: ${SMTP_SERVER}
      SMTP_PORT: ${SMTP_PORT}
      SMTP_USERNAME: ${SMTP_USERNAME}
      SMTP_PASSWORD: ${SMTP_PASSWORD}
    ports:
      - "25:25"
    volumes:
      - /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt:/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt:ro

[waxen scroll]

Secrets file is just as insecure

[rocky badge]

meh lol

It's only allowed from that EC2 internal VPC IP

[full storm]

i have a gigabit network card, gigabit cat6 rj45 cables and my router and modem support gigabit but i only ever reach like 80 megabit
we pay for 320 megabit connection to the outer internet, any suggestions on how to fix this issue

[opal pagoda]

go to network connections, click on your nic, check if it is actually connected at 1gbps

[full storm]

it says 1000/1000 on the properties thingy

[dreamy whale]

What's a BVI? This thing looks like a regular router but the datasheet says it's a Bridge Virtual Interface.

It's an ASA 5506-X and my boss gave it to me to test if it would out of the box with a specific AP also made by Cisco

But I'm not entirely sure what this is. It looks like a router, he said it works like a router/firewall but it's not a router?

[clear igloo]

BVI is bridged virtual interface

The 5506 is a weird one but it's a firewall

[full monolith]

that one gig port on my second line littearly wants a bad christmas. its littearly pumping 990 or so mbps truth a gigabit port but wont get me to that 2k even once.

i rreally need seconf 2.5g card

so i can hit my 2k+ lmao

[full monolith]

yea def

local speeds

[sudden kayak]

i deeply fucking hate the fact that "mere mortals"/resi IPs/standard VPSs basically can't send email anymore. but this is basically the setup I'm considering for my homelab/services if/when i get around to setting it up

mostly im trying to avoid dealing with the nightmare of getting big email providers to allow me through their spam filters

so i can send alerts to like, random non technical family members

[rocky badge]

I haven’t sent regular email in years lol

I’ve always gone through an email sender

But SES from EC2 is free so that’s why I’m doing this

[sudden kayak]

yeah it's free and convenient

but i hate it philosophically lol

[waxen saddle]

Can’t set up your own email server and add family member clients to talk to it?

I mean, maybe that’s true. I’ve just never tried it.

[rocky badge]

That’s a lot of work than just sending emails to their current email

[sudden kayak]

yeah but then you have to do client set up for every single family member

not to mention a lot of ppl only use webmail and wouldn't be able to figure out a new client if you install one

[rocky badge]

^^ i do that lol

[lucid ice]

Anyone know what could be the issue here. I am suppose to have 500/500 no matter how many times I reset the router or anything it goes back to that speed just for my PC

[pseudo blade]

Running email servers sucks with how heavy-handed blacklists are plus inbound spam, I'd go gsuite/365 any day of the week

[pseudo blade]

Going by the speeds it's probably a cable problem or you have a 100mbps interface on either side

[lucid ice]

I checked my controller on my board. It says the max is 1.0 gigabit for the max speed. I changed out a cable with a brand new one and it still does it

[full monolith]

is it the same if you test with a different speedtest

for us here in germany google speedtest sucks balls so hard

[lucid ice]

Yeah its the same all around. I did through ookla and google. I tried downloading a small game and im atuck at 11mbps

[carmine moss]

can you try a different cable also what your pc plugged into

as it can be plugged into something that is 100mbit or if the cable has a pair that is broken it's limited to 100 mbit then o if it's a really old cable

[lucid ice]

Its a new CAT 6E cable. I am plugged into a gigabit switch. I bought the cable when the problems satrted to arise. Ive been researching and people are saying its my controller since its a Intel I225-V revision 3 chip

[carmine moss]

you could get a cheap pci-e card to test if you got a pci-e x1 lane open

or a usb 3 to ethernet usb

[lucid ice]

I dont have an x1 on my board i dont think

ok i do

I have 3

[carmine moss]

could also get a usb one just depends a usb one is a bit more usefull as you can use it on other systems if it doesn't fix the problem but a pci-e one is a bit more stable for long term use

[lucid ice]

I installed Intel PROSet Adapter Utility and it says my cable is bad pretty much

[carmine moss]

well yeah happens at times is your cable running trough the wall if so it's probably the cable in the wall that is old or broken

[lucid ice]

the one running to my PC is running along my desk with LTT cable ties. The one from the switch to the main router is running outside along the floor boards.

[carmine moss]

it's probably the cable that runs outside that is bad then and needs to be swapped so yeah...

can you remove the switch and plug your pc directly into that cable?

[lucid ice]

but my dad is hooked up to the samething and hes not having this issue

[carmine moss]

the thing is you have a probably a modem router combo and then the cable from that goes into your switch to your pc

what moddel is your switch as it can be a 10/100 switch and be the problem

[lucid ice]

https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Splitter-Optimization-Unmanaged-TL-SG108/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=ZEK6OMIKUYYF&keywords=gigabit+switch&qid=1671927307&sprefix=gigabit+switch%2Caps%2C94&sr=8-4

this is the one we got

[carmine moss]

that should be gigabit yeah can you plug your pc into the cable that comes into the switch tho from the router?

[lucid ice]

yeah

[carmine moss]

to see if that is the problem also what is your router as if your dad gets those speeds on wifi i t can be the router or if it only has one gigabit port

[lucid ice]

Its still the same

[carmine moss]

probably is the cable going to your room then that's the problem

only thing you can check is if you swap your dad's cable in the router with your cable if it's quicker in the other port but that's it

as then you know if it's the cable or the port on the router

[lucid ice]

He still gets 500/500 well 510/509 with both cables...

This is making me want to throw out my PC

[carmine moss]

yeah then you need a usb nic or a pci-e one

[lucid ice]

I need to get a new Mobo then. The controller is dead or dying

[carmine moss]

nah you don't need a mobo at all for that https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Foldable-Gigabit-Ethernet-Compatible/dp/B00YUU3KC6/

that should do the trick there are also other ones available

as a nic can die but the mobo is still good for other things have seen dead nics on old prebuilds solution was a pci or pci-e card depending on the prebuild it was mainly core 2 duo and early core i series

[lucid ice]

its not gonna arrive till february

[carmine moss]

well there are a lot of those products for sale even in stores

even a usb c dock with a gig nic works as you can use an adapter to usb a

[exotic marlin]

I am trying to share internet from my laptop to pc with Ethernet cable
It works but when i turn on vpn on laptop, it doesn’t work
Can it work with vpn on ?

[faint bronze]

You will have to look at how packets are trying to route and look at your firewall rules.

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak @waxen scroll I love passwordless authentication

[pseudo blade]

rip

I actually didn't let it replace the ssh config so not sure what got through that convinced it that it needed to break

Fortunately: snapshots, which I manually created just before I did the upgrade

Unfortunately: Lightsail kinda sucks at restoring them - it worked but I had to recreate the firewall config and static IP assignments myself

Also unfortunately: this deletes your CPU credits

[pseudo blade]

Guess you'd better move to Turkey then.

[thick minnow]

hi soo about my internet i just read about teredo which is something that goes around NAT or something like that not all NATs though, andd it gives you ipv6 its job is to assigin you an ipv6 until its fully available ? i read that but i cant find if i can use teredo tunnel as a connection with another PC which has different ISP, i read teredo is similar to 6to4 or it is itself how can i benefit from teredo ? if i dont have access to ipv6

[thick minnow]

oh so toredo is only local link LAN connection that replaces DHCP etc. with IPV6 well nothing again

[peak cloak]

No

It's basically a ipv6 over ipv4 tunnel

[thick minnow]

but if i dont have public ipv4 then if useless right ?

[peak cloak]

Kinda

[thick minnow]

its only for enabling iv6 support if you have ipv4

right ?

[stable forum]

HELP i just upgraded routers and my mbps is no capped at 100 mbps. What can i do

Used to have 300 mbps

It was off. Turned it on at 1000 but that didnt work. Thank you thought

No its wired

Yeah

[full monolith]

check if your link speed to the router is gigabit

looks like its 100/100 link speed

[stable forum]

Where would one might do that

Is it something here

[waxen saddle]

Assuming you are using a PC with a Newtonian cable, if using Windows, open task manager and you should be able to look at the network graph and see what the link speed is. If it’s 1000, you’re good with PC-to-router. Next would be to check the link speed from router to modem.

[stable forum]

Yeah PC is good, just checked

I dont know where you check the link speed though

[full monolith]

just look it up in windows

networkj settings and then the adapter you are connected to

[stable forum]

Alright thank you guys, looking now

Yeah ut says a 1000 There too

I have the Asus AC1500 and it should be capable

I have no clue whats wrong

Maybe both ethernet cables just broke åt the same time??? Idfk

I dont have a IPv6 connection. Might that ve something?

Its been on for an hour so far

Maybe it needs like a kind of burn in thing

Or Maybe its the modem, its really old. I did however get the correct speeds with the old router and the modem

Maybe i should Contact my ISP

[waxen saddle]

Did you reboot the modem after plugging in the new router?

[stable forum]

I turned it off for a bit

[waxen saddle]

If not, power off the modem for at least 5 full minutes, then power it back on.

[stable forum]

Ill try that. Only gas it off for 30 sec

[waxen saddle]

Usually, this triggers the modem to release the old router MAC address and redownload it’s ISP config.

[stable forum]

Aah i ill try

Ive never set up a modem. Is there a set up or do you just plug it in?

[waxen saddle]

No need to set up if it was working just fine on the old router. It will auto configure itself.

[stable forum]

Was thinking of factory resetting it if possible

[stable forum]

After letting it be off for a bit the router lost its internet. Im connected without Internet it says

Nevermind

I literally forgot to plug the modem in

It worked, thank you so much

It was the simplest thing that made it

[waxen saddle]

You’re getting more than 100mbit Internet now?

[sonic notch]

If I have a single PoE coming in but need to split it into non-PoE and PoE, what exactly should I buy

Is it better to just move the injector somewhere else?

[clear igloo]

Yes, move the injector

[sonic notch]

Do you have any suggestions if I can't really move the injector?

There might be a spot where I can't

[clear igloo]

You don't split PoE so you don't have a choice, unless you get a PoE powered switch with 30w input power that can output 2x15w poe

I've seen 1 or 2 switches that do that, otherwise you don't split it

[sonic notch]

rip that sucks

[clear igloo]

https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Gigabit-EdgeSmart-Wall-Mountable-TPE-521ES/dp/B07H28VLFZ/
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Gigabit-Pass-through-Lifetime-Protection/dp/B00J8NAWZ8/
They aren't cheap either

[sonic notch]

I figured

I could rely on Wi-Fi for my TV but idt that would be ideal

For whatever reason it makes questionable AP choices

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo I love how fast Steam downloads are https://i.ryois.me/8xU1ej2EvJ.png

[clear igloo]

Steam go brrrrrrr

and it's consistent too 🙂

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/xKDVog0BX2.png

Steam has really improved their CDN

???? cache 2 is going to Comcast LOL

[tepid wedge]

Hey man, what software is this?

Oh okay I appreciate you letting me know! I unfortunately don’t use a Ubiquiti router, I’ll check out Glasswire, do I have to get the paid tier?

I currently use the TP Link Deco Mesh as deadzones all around my house lol

Oh sweet! I haven’t fully checked out what the paid tier has to offer but I’ll be sure to try out the free tier for now 😎

How long have you been using Glasswire for?

Wait how do you mean?

Btw I’m a complete noob when it comes to the whole networking world

Ohhh damn

I’ll take a look at how much the paid tier is and what it has to offer, might come to some use monitoring my network

I remember seeing it as a sponsored spot for some of the ltt vids a while ago

[thick minnow]

i can’t seem to connect to my opnsense when i log the packets they get dropped any ideas?

[tepid wedge]

I always get caught off by the segways, it’s like I never learn but I just admit defeat 😂😂😂

Always man, always 😂

Been watching for the good part of 4-5 years now, and I NEVER learn 🤣

[clear igloo]

Never learn? Just like I never learn how to segue to our sponsor! Grammarly!!

[tepid wedge]

Ffs! 🤣🤣🤣

Excellent execution. Golf claps for you 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[full monolith]

Is this in the free version? Im using a cracked full version since about 3 years now lol

Oh ok

I just let it run in the background im not looking at it often. Only if i wanna see my traffic usage xD

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo AWS took a fat shit

https://i.ryois.me/RTSdml0y5C.png
https://i.ryois.me/zkrXfAtwO5.png
https://i.ryois.me/ZLB53p2j22.png

Even AWS console and health page is down

https://i.ryois.me/G8lsv3IJg2.png

[rocky badge]

Seems like it's AWS & NTT

[frail kayak]

I am upgrading to 1 gig internet what equipment do I need to take full advantage of it

[waxen scroll]

Lmao

[plucky path]

Is 900 down 500 up good?

[little schooner]

Thats fantastic to me

here I am only with 800 down and 25 up

[plucky path]

I only get 30ping in Fortnite which I thought would be more considering my internet is actually pretty good

[subtle estuary]

It deoends on what are you paying for if you are paying for 1000/1000 its not good but if you are paying for 900/500 its good.

[subtle estuary]

It depends on where you live we have fibre that is 500/500 with 1ms but the Fortnite servers is to far away to get that lower ping then 25 in early game and 10-5 i end game.

[odd sigil]

I dont use my laptop for one day and it has decided it cant download anything faster than 126kb/s. This slab is nothing but problems I swear to god

[twilit gulch]

Hello!
HQ-Primary has a session with Plovdiv but they can't ping each other
Does anyone know why?
Tha main is DMVPN

[hard wind]

Could anyone help me with a pretty specific network problem?

[hard wind]

Short answer I cant connect to the 5ghz network that I used to be able to connect to.

My adapter supports all channels. My family uses airport express to bring the connection from my basement to my second floor. I'm on the third floor.

Airport express is apple btw

What does that mean?

disable the aiport express?

Almost positive I wont be able to connect from my room

[hard wind]

Figured it out

Express was broadcasting too high of a channel

[thick minnow]

spikes so often, like every 5 seconds it spikes to 100+ any fix? on internet adapter RTL8192EU

[unborn sluice]

any fix?
don't ping for more than 4 seconds

[pseudo blade]

Test to a next-hop device like your router or another local ethernet device rather than 1.1.1.1 if you're trying to rule out an wired ethernet adapter

Oh it's wifi, not wired

Yeah still true but could be wireless interference, check for congestion or other 2.4ghz wifi networks on the same or interfering bands

Consider 5ghz if you want less congested frequencies

[pseudo blade]

Reliably low latency and "usb realtek 2.4ghz 802.11n" aren't really said together.

At least it's dual chain.

[unborn sluice]

Cant be flexing that 2mbps

Some people dont have internet

[clear igloo]

That's what they said....

[turbid zodiac]

For all your networking equipment needs! No basic tech-support questions or screenshots of speedtests, please.

[pseudo blade]

I do what I want I mean sure if you don't mind running afoul of the people who made the rules

Because that was copied straight from the channel topic.

[clear igloo]

You mean a channel that forbids epeen measuring spam? Because 99% of the time that's all speedtests are

[pseudo blade]

Can't imagine why

[clear igloo]

Like all you do is spam speedtest screenshots and rant about the EU, you won't be missed if they decide to ban you, lol

[pseudo blade]

They've been doing this for... weeks I think. Politics, speedtests and not much else

[clear igloo]

Yup

I just don't get it, if you post a speedtest ask a question is fine, don't just post to spam crap

[gusty storm]

It was just a bit annoying to constantly see the rants about bad speeds in Europe when you have tight data caps anyways, and as long as it loads a video or the apps you use, it's enough

[clear igloo]

Exactly, just someone with a bone to pick

[waxen scroll]

What? No more LTE speak? Thank god

[clear igloo]

Yah, 5G NA or bust, upgrade with the times 😄

[pseudo blade]

I don't mind a bit of LTE speak, being doing a fair bit with it recently myself for a project

[waxen scroll]

It's technically networking but I dont think anyone cares here

[clear igloo]

Yah, just the ranting about speeds was annoying

@waxen scroll Anyway, fun with QoS on pfsense, lol

[waxen scroll]

why are you QoSing on a circuit that wont support it anyway

[clear igloo]

Upload queueing out of the network

[waxen scroll]

:\

but muh latency

[clear igloo]

I was mucking with some stuff and the quick spike would choke out the program causing stutters
I set a 2Gbps policy and would get 1.4Gbps up
I dropped it to 1.9Gbps and upload is now solid at 2Gbps

11/10, would queue again, lol

[pseudo blade]

I've heard of something similar being done to improve performance on NBN connections

If you let it actually hit its threshold it'd shape you but if you shaped it just under you'd get better throughput

[clear igloo]

True, didnt think about buffers

[hollow marlin]

That's the primary concept of CoS at the edge. Because everything upstream is outside your control, you want to shape your traffic prior to the the provider's policers/shapers. Typically the recommended is shaping at 90-95% the CIR

[pseudo blade]

Not for the purpose of ensuring traffic classes, but to get higher throughput than you'd get if you were being shaped by the ISP

[clear igloo]

It depends on how long you're hitting that higher throughput because there is a burst rate with CIR as well which can let you go a set amount above the CIR for a period of time

[hollow marlin]

Yeah, that's just pushing the burst-rate to the edge. You may see higher throughput, but it will be minimal increases at best and it will not be sustained.

[pseudo blade]

Reckon they're exceeding the threshold and just aren't noticing it'll slow down because they're exhausting the burst bucket slower?

I guess that makes sense

[hollow marlin]

Correct. Instead of using the tokens all at once, it's attempting to use them in smaller increments with the best case of using them near the rate that they're being replenished

The same concepts apply to policing and burst-rates as well. You should shape outbound and police inbound using similar concepts

[frail kayak]

Hey I am trying to upgrade to 1 gif internet what would I need to make the most out of it

[clear igloo]

what do you have now?

[waxen scroll]

I would hope any best buy router can do a gig wan in 2023

[full monolith]

i guess the cheapest way to get more then 1gig is upgrading to 2.5gig lan

[thick minnow]

If your PC supports USB3, there are inexpensive USB3 dongles that support 1.0, 2.5, and 5.0 GB ethernet. I bought two, have used one, just to (hopefully) speed up my backup server. Don't have any benchmarks yet

[full monolith]

better to just use a 25$ 2.5g lan card instead of a usb dongle

but if its a laptop you have no other choice

[thick minnow]

my backup server doesn't have any slots, it's just an Intel NUC 6

[full monolith]

yea it works but pcie still better then a dongle

[thick minnow]

of course, all things being perfect.

[opal pagoda]

it does have extra slots, just takes little creativity

[full monolith]

thos mfs are fire man, i have one of those in my "laptop server"

its littearly just the mainboard of the laptop with some ssds and this adapter in the m.2 wifi slot

[wind wren]

what are some good dual band antenas for my z690 pro a wifi mobo?

[still dew]

shouldn't it come with an antenna in the box?

[wind wren]

Yeah but I was testing out these other antennas but had to return them and the stock ones gave me 100 mbps lower than the ones I had to return so I was just asking to see if there are better ones

[still dew]

Interesting. I never clued in that different antennas can result in different speeds. I've always used the stock one. Sorry, can't help you there

[wind wren]

Its aight but like with the other antennas got 500 mbps down stable and I am using stock now and getting like 400-420 mbps down stable and upload around the same for both stock and new 35-40 up

its not too huge but just wondering

[opal pagoda]

i might pick up one of those mini pcie sata controllers for my zotac nano and possibly 3d print a case extension so all the drives fit

[ocean pivot]

I have an m.2 to sata adapter for my server

[full monolith]

Intel wifi 6e should be great inguess

?

[pseudo blade]

I like the random photoshop on the antennas with just the brown box to the side

Not sure I'd believe the speed on the box, don't think you can do that with two chains

They've probably went and added the max speed in 2.4ghz, 5ghz and 6ghz together even though it can only do one at a time

[frank thistle]

Hi, what are some ways i can improve my internet network, if i have a old router, and not planning on using it as a wi-fi extander, bc i don't use much Wi-Fi most of the year at all
Well i have 2 of those, one new, one old
the old one is the crappy isp ones
I have 3 boxes, new main router, the old router (both modems+switches) and a switch to get TV bc the new router acts like the main box that gets the cable signal from outside

[faint bronze]

I think that is the max theoretical of 6ghz, 5ghz and 2.4 implying you were to use them all at once.

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo muh cell tech. ATT long line towers = mmmm

[clear igloo]

ATT and VZW both suck for getting anything done

[waxen scroll]

I once did a project that needed multiple BUs within VZ to talk

holy. crap.

One of them brought a CCIE on the call and I almost cursed him out

poor baby didnt want to be on the call for a 10pm TTU of the entire service

his co-workers quickly hushed him up right before I almost unmuted to say "Hey X, you WILL be on this call and I look forward to seeing you there. Do you have a problem?"

[clear igloo]

We needed to get lines run into the lab, VZW took 6 to 8 months and loads of back and forth, ATT was 8 or 9 months, same deal

I still have to email ATT to get new SIM cards activated
Verizon at least has a portal I can go to

[frank thistle]

wait what happens if i plug one end of a Ethernet cable in first router and in the blue one on the second one

[full monolith]

No but if you think that. Fine. Look up the ax210 speeds man and dont act like you know everything lmao

The ax210 is 2x2 on 6ghz with 2400mbps link speed

So it makes sense only having 2 antennas

[lyric forum]

I have a Xiaomi Router 3 with 2 10/100 ethernet port. My PC is connected to router however my PC need to use around 150-200Mbps which makes this a bottleneck. So my question is is it possible to connect 2 ethernet port on my router to my PC? Are there any other hacky way via firmware (The router uses padavan custom firmware)? My use case is for Oculus Quest 2 streaming which I would want to minimize latency.

[clear igloo]

Buy a gigabit switch?

[lyric forum]

Thats my last option

[full monolith]

Buy a better router instead a switch. Gigabit routers are not that much more

Like instead of buying a 20$ switch buy a 30$ router with gigabit

[lyric forum]

I hope Tenda AC9 is decent

[full monolith]

Get a xiaomi from aliexpress instead

Tenda is pretty bad ngl

[lyric forum]

Tenda AC9 or Xiaomi router Gen 3G?

Ok guess tenda is just that bad?

[thick minnow]

dont judge but it works better than you think

[full monolith]

yo that looks sick lmao

[peak cloak]

? How is 5374 mb/s achievable

[full monolith]

its the combined with all of them but yea its not on one freq

[full monolith]

And i mean it would be possible. But not with 2x2

[hollow marlin]

@clear igloo Just to verify because it's not clearly documented because marketing , Wifi 6E inherits the same backwards compatibility of 6 (and older for that matter) and negotiates at the lowest common denominator right? Ex. single AC device knocks all down to AC.

I know it applied to 6, but haven't cared to look further into 6E changes to see if they incorporated anything new with the radios

[clear igloo]

6E, since it's also 6GHz doesn't have that limit I'm 99% sure

[hollow marlin]

That makes sense, thanks dude!

[wind wren]

Will this fit on my motherboard? I have Msi z690 Pro a Wifi, with ax201

[wind wren]

Does 6E and 6ghz mean the same thing?

[clear igloo]

Yah, 6E is the standard (802.11ax expanded) which introduces 6GHz

WiFi 7 will keep 2.4/5/6GHz frequencies but just improve upon the 6GHz frequency and allow wider channels more than anything

[wind wren]

Wait does my motherboard have 6E/6ghz?

It says on the website it does but I can only hit 5ghz

[full monolith]

because your router prob doesnt have 6ghz

or its just too far away if it does

[clear igloo]

Yes, but you need a 6GHz capable router/access point

[wind wren]

Someone in TechSource discord said it was because I had ax201

[clear igloo]

Plus distance is a thing, since 6GHz travels shorter and penetrates poorly compared to 5GHz

[wind wren]

Ohhh I will check my router

[wind wren]

I am across the house from my router

[clear igloo]

Then even if it's 6GHz you're likely not going to pick up the signal

[wind wren]

Ah ok

Is 6ghz only ax210 though?

[full monolith]

look it up

[wind wren]

Alright thanks for the help

[clear igloo]

Yah, the 21x are 6E, 20x are 6

[wind wren]

Oh ok ax201 is Wifi 6 which says only does 2.4 and 5ghz

[hollow pagoda]

ok so with cat 8 ethernet im recieving 15 mb per second PEAK and with wifi im getting 40 mb per second idk whats happening can someone help

wait i fixed it

[queen salmon]

is there something i can buy for my room that i can connect to my switch to give my room wireless internet coverage because the router has terrible coverage of my room

i have 5 ethernet ports free on my switch

[pseudo blade]

It says 5374Mbits, maybe read your own post before you go off and insult the intelligence of others, eh?

[south blade]

You guys already watch the wifi video? I've got a question.

[waxen scroll]

Nope

[full monolith]

the latest one? yes

[south blade]

Powerline...will that get a signal to a guest house? It's hooked up to a 100amp breaker from the 200amp breaker panel.

It's about 200 feet of thick ass wire underground for those 100 amps to the 100amp panel on the guest house.

[full monolith]

you need to stay udnder a maximum od electrical cable lenght those support and if its too far away even under the rated maximum it can be bad

i used powerline at my apartment and the cable lenght from A to B wasnt even 20m and i had arround 200mbps. eventho the adapters are rated for 1200mbps link speed

most good powerline adapters are rated for around 984feet of electrical cable lenght but if theres too many points where it has to many couplings it will drop speed tho

i guess you can try if it works but if its not working you could use a point to point wifi bridge

you will def get more speed out of a wifi bridge tbh

if its 5ghz

[south blade]

So it'd be from an outlet that gets power from a 20amp breaker most likely, that has to get that signal into the panel, which hopefully reaches the 100amp breaker, which travels those 200 feet to the guest house, into the 100amp main panel at the guest house, which is hooked up to a 20 amp breaker, a few feet into wherever the powerline adapter would go....hmmm, sounds like a lot.

[full monolith]

yea

i guess the best is to just try it out and if its not working just give them back or something

but i dont think it will work great if it works

[south blade]

Yeah, cause I'm hoping to get as little loss to the guest house because I'm planning on doing wireless PtP to it when I build across the property, ANOTHER 500 feet. 😛

And there are a lot of trees between the spot where I plan to build and the main house, the guest house is a clearer path to do PtP.

[full monolith]

i guess you should just directly try using ptp instead of wasting your time on prob something that wont even work that well

and you cant put any ethernet there?

like where the power lines run or something?

i prob would just get a thick outdoor rated cable dig a straight small line and hardwire it

[south blade]

the power lines to the guest house? The cables were already a tight fit in there, nothing else can go into that conduit.

[full monolith]

oh okay

build a ptp bridge with those

they arent that expensive and have 1g ports

[south blade]

10km+ potential range!? Is that for real

[full monolith]

Yea in ideal conditions

[prisma flame]

Hey, networkers! Got a question for y’all. My new home office is the one of the few places in my house that didn’t have cat5e installed but there is a coax port. I did a little digging and found some MoCA devices am I on the right track? I assume I need to get a wire tracker for the co-ax and map that out like I’ve done for the mess that was the cat5e patch panel

Kind of feel silly it took me so long to look this idea up… I mean the way my modem gets internet in the first place is through a coax cable so why not used them inside my house too

[dusky gale]

Are you trying to connect your PC to the patch panel?

[prisma flame]

I think I would just plug it strait into the combo modem router that my ISP provided (yes, I know… it’s next on the upgrade list)

That also would mean it could potentially have upgrade ability the rest of my cat5e system wouldn’t. I think

[dusky gale]

If you're just trying to connect your office to the internet, I'd get a powerline adapter and use cat 5e cables to connect everything. Is usage of the coax your main goal?

[prisma flame]

I guess if the power line thing works sure. I’ve just never used them.

Also I don’t completely trust the wiring… it flickers a lot when I try to print

[dusky gale]

What flickers?

[prisma flame]

The lights

Like the overhead and my desk lamp

[dusky gale]

0_0 that's an electrician issue.

[prisma flame]

Yeah…

Long story lol

[dusky gale]

Or your house is just haunted.

50/50

[prisma flame]

Nah the electrician we had was just an idiot

[dusky gale]

But yeah, I'd try the powerline adapters. My friend uses them, and he gets gigabit speeds no problem.

[prisma flame]

Luckily he wasn’t in charge of the networking

[dusky gale]

Oh god imagine lmao

[prisma flame]

I’m just thankful most of his handy work lasted for the lock down we’ve slowly be fixing it and it’s nice to have lights that actual work and stuff

Anyways thanks for the tip I’ll check it out. I just assumed that having a coax would be better then powerline adapter

Tbh the “sending internet over regular outlets” still seems like dark magic to me

[dusky gale]

It can be, but it's just a big hassle. Coincidentally, LTT just made a video on this.

[prisma flame]

Huh funky

[dusky gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0vy1VzFbf8

[prisma flame]

I do not have a lot of outlets in the place where the modem lives too so there’s that

[dusky gale]

Power strips. Just be sure to plug the powerline adapter straight into the wall outlet and not a power strip for better performance.

[prisma flame]

So everything else on a strip and the adapter on the other socket?

(Best worst case?)

[dusky gale]

Yeah, if all you're plugging into the power strip is basic stuff like a computer, monitors, lamp, fan, etc. They'll all work fine on the power strip.

[prisma flame]

Yea yeah

That shouldn’t be too hard. Already have the modem on a UPS so I don’t loose wifi during brown outs

[dusky gale]

Nicw

[prisma flame]

It’s a bit overkill but I was also thinking if I ever want a server…

[dusky gale]

I need to get a UPS. Just had a power spike recently, and I had to restart a script I needed to run for a week. It conked out at 5 days 😦

[prisma flame]

Rip

Yeah the storm we had was particularly bad

I had been using it in my office to keep my external hdd and my monitor going but I found the keeping the wifi from cycling was more useful

I also found out that whatever tech my ISP provided has a little battery input too so might get something for that and move the usb back to the office

Lots to do 😛

[dusky gale]

Lol, nice.

[prisma flame]

Yeah despite the quirks I do love having a home that came with decent wiring already laid out and stuff

[calm atlas]

Got a question regarding this new wifi 6 band - is it really worth spending $700 or even $200 on a new router when I have a tri-band 2.4/5/5 router that already works great for my needs - even though the speeds cap out at 300mbps (speedtest) on a single client (my internet is 1000/1000) - I got the router I have today 3-4-5 years ago and it's been working great - and still is

[dusky gale]

Are you getting 300mbps on a Wi-Fi device?

[calm atlas]

yeah - my smartphone and laptop

[dusky gale]

When using Ethernet, do you get the gigabit speed?

[calm atlas]

actually - it depends

[dusky gale]

?

[calm atlas]

if there's too many devices - the CPU on the router maxes out when running the speedtest, causing a bottleneck and costing me performance

[dusky gale]

Does that happen often?

[calm atlas]

not really - the main issue is my nintendo switch

I've tried both wired and wireless connections and the downloads are notoriously slow

I mean an hour to download an 8mb DLC for tetris99 having to retry 5 times

[dusky gale]

Is that on the switch only?

[calm atlas]

yep

[dusky gale]

Switch issue probably.

[calm atlas]

steam, origin, etc... all download at 100mb/s+

laptop is more limited to 30-60mb/s depending on which room I'm in and wi-fi quality

[dusky gale]

Are you close to your router when you download stuff on the switch?

[calm atlas]

yeah - it only goes through one wall for the wifi

and it's a hallow wall - not much wiring or insulation

not even so much as a sink faucet

it's probably 10-15ft

[dusky gale]

Do you have any other APs?

[calm atlas]

I mean it's an apartment complex

the whole space is saturated

all bands are tied up

but I don't own any other ones

[dusky gale]

Try updating your switch and rebooting.

Also just realizing you should probably put this in the #1027757333117415424 section.

[calm atlas]

sure - also yeah I did update the switch to the latest firmware no new updates available (was the first thing I tried)

but I'm also interested in how much of a difference wifi-6 really would make

I'm not all that dependent on it

just my smartphone and smart lights that need wifi

oh and the work laptop

[dusky gale]

I'm not sure then. I'd hate to make you spend a lot of money for nothing.

[calm atlas]

exactly - I get that wifi-6 is faster and better and a new frequency band

but I'm not sure that many of my devices can actually use it and take advantage - nor that it would be an advantage

[thick minnow]

where can i get a cheap PoE injector? i wanna replace my existing 802.11n AP with a dual radio one, also 802.11n

i have a box full of these APs that are better but all PoE

[full monolith]

Switch just is bullshit at wifi or ethernet speeds thats a common issue and they littearly didnt do anything about this since it came out.

If you get bad speeds on the switch its 99.9% the switch what just cant use more

[calm atlas]

I mean....1hr and 5 retries to download an 8mb DLC....

with no other devices doing anything on the network

[full monolith]

I have a oled switch and i get around 50-60mbps download speed on this and my wifi easily gives me over 1200 download

[full monolith]

Could also be a server issue but you could try to factory reset it if youre ablento save game stats

[calm atlas]

is there a way to speedtest to nintendo's switch servers?

or ping them to see the packet loss?

[meager ginkgo]

Redid my network closet-

I still have to label the unplugged Ethernet 😛

[prisma flame]

Nice

Been redoing mine too

@dusky gale thanks for the Moca video answered a lot of my questions!

I think I will have better luck then they did in the video… it’s cool that you can get router/modems with that built in wonder if that’s worth it or not

I’m actual excited to get a seprate modem and router to replace the ISP combo unit. Means I can keep wires down in the basement and move the wifi around to a better location for reception

[meager ginkgo]

MoCA is awesome.. you won't regret setting it up

just make sure you have a MoCA filter on your incoming cable internet/tv line

[prisma flame]

It actually won’t interfere at al if I do it right

[meager ginkgo]

You're supposed to have a moca filter on the incoming line to prevent your internal network from leaking out to your neighbors

[prisma flame]

Like the moca coax is just for that the ISP feeds me internet on a separate line

[meager ginkgo]

So no, it shouldn't interfere

[meager ginkgo]

What's your internet type?

cable.. fiber, dsl?

[prisma flame]

It is cable yeah

[full monolith]

Where i need to put it? Where the main coax comes into my home or where my coax modem is?

The filter i mesn

[meager ginkgo]

you could put it on either but it's better to put it on in the box outside mounted on the wall

[prisma flame]

But I have access to the splitter

[full monolith]

Okay thanks

[meager ginkgo]

Is your moca network and cable internet on seperate lines?

[prisma flame]

Yes

[meager ginkgo]

You should be fine- but it's still a good practice to check if you have a moca filter and install one if not

they're like $8-10

[prisma flame]

Yeah I might do it just to try

[full monolith]

For me its not. Is this a problem if i wanna still do it

[meager ginkgo]

Nope. That just means you should definitely have a moca filter

[prisma flame]

And the one in the video had a built in filter

[full monolith]

Alright

[meager ginkgo]

If you want cheap moca adapters go on ebay

[prisma flame]

(I think)

[meager ginkgo]

they're $35 each for 2.5gigabit ones

[full monolith]

I was thinking about moca for months now but of its no problem having internet and moca on the same line i will use it soon

[meager ginkgo]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175327148103?epid=26054794663

[prisma flame]

Cool

[meager ginkgo]

Way cheaper than Amazon

[prisma flame]

I might stick with Amazon for the returnablity though

[meager ginkgo]

Amazon is like $180 for the same thing 😛

eBay should have a money back guarantee

[prisma flame]

Ok

[full monolith]

2.5g is great. my local network is full 2.5G tho

[prisma flame]

Will look into it

[meager ginkgo]

I just looked and the seller says they don't accept returns

but if the item is defective you can contact ebay

they should be brand new though

[prisma flame]

They did have a two for one deal that was 60 ish so that might be on par but yeah a lot of triple digit ones form big brands

[meager ginkgo]

Frontier just rebrands the goCoax ones

the equivalent gocoax one is $130 on Amazon for 2

[prisma flame]

Well that’s just silly

If it was 20% more that might be worth the peace of mind but not that much

[full monolith]

Is this what i need?

[meager ginkgo]

yeah see if you can find it cheaper

[full monolith]

Yea alright

[meager ginkgo]

seems kind of expensive (don't know how that converts though haha)

[prisma flame]

Lol you right it was “only” about a 100 bucks usd

[meager ginkgo]

oops thought you resent that my bad

[meager ginkgo]

for amazon or ebay?

[prisma flame]

Bazo mart

(Amazon)

[meager ginkgo]

Ah, I just looked and the equivalent ScreenBeam adapter is $170 actually

[pseudo blade]

Does seem kinda pricy for what I assume is just a band pass filter

[prisma flame]

That was a two pack though to be fair

[pseudo blade]

That said I assume you only need one

[meager ginkgo]

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/

this is the equivalent to the ebay one

so you'd save about $90

You also want to make sure your coax cabling is RG6

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah you do. At the point of entry of the coax

[pseudo blade]

Self-evident name

[meager ginkgo]

@full monolith you may have one already, probably worth checking

alot of cable techs install them nowadays standardly

[prisma flame]

Well thanks for saving me about 100 bucks blue

[meager ginkgo]

not guaranteed though

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah, it really bugs me they are so marked up on Amazon and BestBuy

they're brand new on ebay 🤷‍♂️

[full monolith]

The house i live in is about 20 years old so i guess i need one

But ill have a look before i buy one

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah but a cable tech could have installed one later on

👍

[meager ginkgo]

@rocky badge

still waiting on the rack- will also be upgrading my router and switch to UniFi

[prisma flame]

Ok going to resist getting it now and do it in the morning when I can actual research what the heck I’m buying lol

Crap I didn’t think about all the great network stuff people would be reselling

[meager ginkgo]

What do you have currently?

[prisma flame]

Ok this is the wide shot I’ll get more in detail

Pretty sure there’s no Doxable info on here 😬

Patch panel that I’ve have to redo since we got a generator.

Still in the middle of mapping out the lines but I’ve been lazy and only done it as needed

[meager ginkgo]

Nice.. get yourself a network rack and some rackmount gear and you should be set

[prisma flame]

Mhm

It’s not much but it’s a good start

[meager ginkgo]

For sure!

[prisma flame]

And here’s what I’ve invested so far in the project:

[meager ginkgo]

I only got into networking when we started building a house that included some ethernet lines, from there I've learnt so many things lol

[meager ginkgo]

👍

[prisma flame]

Oh dang came out side ways lol

You get the idea tho

[meager ginkgo]

Yep. lol

[prisma flame]

And you can see in the first photo the bundle of coax that goes to the rest of the home

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah, looks good. Like I said earlier- you dont NEED a filter but it's still a good practice to buy one

[prisma flame]

Another cool thing about doing it this way is I won’t run into that over head problem as easily

[meager ginkgo]

https://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-coaxial-networks/dp/B00KO5KHSQ/

$7

[prisma flame]

Yeah that’s worth getting from Amazon I guess

But I bet I can get a lot of second hand mounting hardware from eBay way cheeper

Like the racks and stuff

[meager ginkgo]

I found a good site for racks a bit ago let me find it

https://sysracks.com/catalog/wall-mount-rack-cabinets/

That's where I plan on getting my rack from

Amazon seems extremely overpriced once again lol

[prisma flame]

Mhm

This still might be a bit much for me right now with my budget but I’ll save it for potential upgrades

[meager ginkgo]

👍

understandable

[prisma flame]

Lol thanks, recently went back to school (in part to get a degree in all this computer stuff I’ve been doing just as a hobby) so moneys a little tight… witch makes that eBay deals on moca all the more compelling

https://www.ebay.com/itm/152682400649?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=97NVsFOGRgm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=jS7q041MQwq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Think that’s probably more my speed right now.

[meager ginkgo]

Oh wait I'm wrong

ignore me.. 😂

[prisma flame]

But you sounded so confident like Chat GPT

[meager ginkgo]

lol.

I swear they did take up 2U but the sizing doesn't look right online now

[prisma flame]

Come to think of it I can also try to hit up the school to see if they are getting rid of old equipment

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah see if any local people have network racks also

[prisma flame]

It’s a long shot they have anything I need but what the heck

[meager ginkgo]

I've seen people get huge nice server racks for like $100

like 42U huge

[prisma flame]

Yeah yeah makes sense

Niche market and all

[meager ginkgo]

yep haha

[prisma flame]

Lol going to build a server before I build a pc I guess

[meager ginkgo]

What do you plan on running?

[prisma flame]

Well network indestructure… then a server

-infrastructure

[meager ginkgo]

You may be better off purchasing an older ultra small dell optiplex or hp elitedesk

[prisma flame]

Yeah hadn’t really thought about it too much tbh

[meager ginkgo]

I've ran tons of things on my 16gb ram dell optiplex with an i3-4130

[prisma flame]

Just looking at all the eBay listing gif me thinking further down the line

Honestly might use my old surface pro tablet or something

Too slow for normal computer use now but reformat it with a light weight distro…

[meager ginkgo]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144876530952

something like this is great value

Install proxmox on it and you're golden 😛

you should be able to upgrade the ram also

[prisma flame]

Noice

But like I said first things first have a good network

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah for sure.

TP Link Omada is decent for budget network setups

the er605 router is like $60?

[prisma flame]

But if I do get a rack I’ll try to plan on leaving space for a future server or something

[meager ginkgo]

I think it was on sale for $40 a day ago

[meager ginkgo]

Yep, always try to add a couple of U when you buy a rack to ensure you have space for future stuff

whenever you start doing networking you keep on adding 😛

[prisma flame]

I gather 😛

I do like TP link used there stuff before and seemed good

[meager ginkgo]

I have the ER605 router and it’s a great little budget router

only reason I’m switching to unifi is because of the mobile app

[prisma flame]

Had mixed results lately with net gear tech

[meager ginkgo]

And I want UniFi Protect lol

[prisma flame]

My first router was a TPlink

N300 to be exact

Though technically that was a router, modem and a WAP

[twin talon]

what is the best way to start my pc over wan. i tried pulseway but it only works on the same lan.

[unborn sluice]

Ask someone in the same lan to press the button

[prisma flame]

A really long stick?

[meager ginkgo]

Wake on LAN

enable it in your bios.. your phone should have an app that can do it

you just need the MAC address of the pc and IP iirc

[twin talon]

ik, only works on same lan

[meager ginkgo]

vpn?

into your home network?

or setup something like Home assistant?

[twin talon]

like how exactly

im not the smartest

[meager ginkgo]

Do you have an extra computer at home- a server essentially

[twin talon]

no sadly

[meager ginkgo]

What router model do you have?

[twin talon]

i have some phones if that helps

[meager ginkgo]

You may have a built in VPN function on the router

[twin talon]

yeah it does have openvpn

[meager ginkgo]

Set that up then download the configuration onto your phone with the OpenVPN connect app

Do you have an android or iPhone?

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wolow-wake-on-lan/id1500970060

Use this app once you are VPNed into your home network

(If you have iPhone)

[twin talon]

ok thanks

i have an iphone yes

[meager ginkgo]

Let me know if it works : )

[twin talon]

i will

[meager ginkgo]

Oh wait, forgot to ask- is your computer on Ethernet?

[twin talon]

yes

[meager ginkgo]

Ok good. That should work then

[cerulean glade]

australia 😬

[twin talon]

Me saying: haha Australia, while waiting for the screenshot to load

[rocky badge]

nice

[pseudo blade]

I'm guessing Fixed Wireless or satellite based on the inconsistency

[slate schooner]

https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/65b55543-9ae0-4786-8a16-971233544023.png lol australia

[waxen saddle]

Does this work if VPN clients are on a different network than wired clients?

[meager ginkgo]

Do you mean like a different VLAN?

I think there’s a setting you need to enable on the router if you have that

[waxen saddle]

Yea. As far as I know, WoL does not traverse networks/VLAN’s as it is a broadcast packet.

[hollow marlin]

That's where directed broadcast comes in which usually disabled by default. As it should

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge FREE THE BROADCASTS!

[sonic notch]

Is it at all possible to do ethernet over speaker wiring?

Ik it's possible to do audio over ethernet but I'm asking about the reverse

[calm atlas]

if you had enough pairs - probably

does anyone know if there's a 5g lte uw network extender - similar to the Samsung 4g lte network extender for cell signals at 5g or 5guw?

I'm not looking for a repeater, but a standalone mini-tower that uses my internet connection to provide cell service

[full monolith]

this would be something really cool to do ngl

[calm atlas]

it exists for 4g lte bands but I haven't found one for the 5g and 5g uw band

the 4g lte version is under samsung 4g lte network extender 2 (there's 2 models made and only for verizon)

but it only covers 4g lte and half of the time my phone won't use it unless I set my google pixel 6 pro to "prefer 4g lte" instead of 5g

[full monolith]

i actually thought about this a long time ago but i dont know if this is legal here in germany
i know that you can have repeaters for cell service but you have to like license them so its legal to use

[calm atlas]

oh these things are the size of a wifi router and act the same way

not that strong at all

[full monolith]

yea but germany is really hard on that stuff

[calm atlas]

it's just to have coverage where the existing coverage is crap

but unless I set my phone to "prefer 4g lte" - it'll connect to the 5g tower with 1/5 bars instead of the 4g lte mini-tower I have and get 5/5 bars, thus burning through it's battery extremely fast

[full monolith]

here the max power of a wifi router is 1W and even if your over that just by a little biut they will find the exact location of the router and come to your house to take it with em

so you littearly cant do anything like that if its not licensed or legal in general

some guy i know was messing arround with a router and got it to 1.3W transmit power

not even 4 days later people got to his house and took the router with em and he was forced to pay like 300€ for this

[calm atlas]

good riddance

[full monolith]

yea

[calm atlas]

in either case I'm looking for a 5g/5g UW mini-tower like the one I have for 4g lte

[meager ginkgo]

do you need gigabit or just 100mbps?

if you have 4 wires- it MAY be possible to do 100mbps ethernet over it.. no guarantees though

[deep current]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know of an unmanaged 500 watt 24 port POE+ switch with SFP that isn't the Ubiquiti model?

[meager ginkgo]

You may be able to find one on eBay

[deep current]

oh it isn't for personal use

im trying to power a bunch of kvms connected to servers over a network

[meager ginkgo]

Mikrotik has one- but it's managed

https://shop.bizsyscon.com/products/mikrotik-crs328-24p-4splusrm-24-port-gigabit-switch-4x-10gbps-sfpplus-500w-poe.html

[deep current]

managed switches cause unusual errors in my use case

[peak cloak]

Most likely no

[meager ginkgo]

I don't think such a thing that's unmanaged exists

[peak cloak]

It's not shielded or twisted

Which means it won't carry signals well

[deep current]

Ubiquiti makes a few

[peak cloak]

Like?

[meager ginkgo]

Have a model number out of curiosity?

[peak cloak]

@deep current also I don't think I've heard of an unmanaged poe switch

[meager ginkgo]

Oh unmanaged poe switches definitely exist

[deep current]

US-24-500W

[meager ginkgo]

that is managed though

[deep current]

crap so it is

stupid power constraints

[meager ginkgo]

I think all Ubiquiti stuff is managed

besides maybe the edgerouter stuff

[peak cloak]

Even all that I think is managed

There is no reason to avoid managed really

[deep current]

I'm connecting these (https://www.adder.com/en/kvm-solutions/adderlink-xdip) to these (https://www.disguise.one/en/products/pro/vx-4plus/) and trying to figure out a low maintenance solution as I'm trying to minimize things that can go wrong once they are live, I just want a trained monkey to be able to start everything up and it just works after I walk away and I've had issues once all the different protocols that are used start going full speed ahead, unmanaged switches cause fewer issues in my experience

I'll just have to create an annoying solution with these.

https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/unmanaged/gs324pp/

[peak cloak]

I doubt that's because it's managed/unmanaged

Maybe different implementations, etc.

[deep current]

I've built a few hundred shows in my career and thats the only consistency I can narrow down

[sonic notch]

Was thinking gigabit b/c I thought it would work like MoCA but ig not

It's not a huge deal if I can't

[true rain]

what does sftp speed depend on\

[hollow marlin]

Wait, so are you looking for switches intended for use in production environments? Managed is and should be the only option. If the various protocols running by default on managed switches are causing a problem, it's most likely not the fault of the switch.

[waxen scroll]

Shows? Use a grandMA switch

[deep current]

Oh this is not meant to last forever.

I just need it to last through a few weeks of rehearsals.

[peak cloak]

Yeah thing is moca is over coax which is shielded, speaker wires aren't. Could it be possible to hack something together to somehow work? Probably. Any commerical solution out there? No

[deep current]

Man if you know the secret to DANTE and Media Servers on the same network be my guest to explain it to me

[rocky badge]

but why

Dante loves a network without anything else on it

Audinate recommends no DHCP as well

Let all of the interfaces use 169.254.0.0/16 and mDNS autodiscovery

Disable EEE, no IGMP snooping on an isolated VLAN, nothing else but Dante traffic on the VLAN

[deep current]

Because everything for this show has to fit on airplane and I dont have the room I normally do to do this properly.

[rocky badge]

A managed switch fits in the same space

All of your Dante devices already have a separate network interface off of the Dante card as well

[deep current]

Yeah but I dont need a managed switched for a glorified power distro

[rocky badge]

I've always either used an unmanaged switch with just Dante or a managed switch with Dante on its own VLAN ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I've never added non Dante stuff onto a Dante network and it performs excellently

[carmine moss]

it doesn't cost more for managed as 24+ port unmanaged is almost non existing for sure with poe doesn't exist

[deep current]

Netgear has a product line of them

I posted the link to it earlier

[rocky badge]

Ngl I've been using Cisco SG300 series

it's a popular lineup in the AV space

[deep current]

I just dropped the 6000 for luminex switches. Screw it.

Might as well do things properly

[deep current]

Before I switched to media servers during the pandemic I ran carbonites for 8 years.

[rocky badge]

nice

Most of my workflows are IP based

[waxen scroll]

Wot

[rocky badge]

IP ftw

[fringe saddle]

Why are my connects so low in OperaGX? I'm using ethernet

[thick minnow]

opera gx

[dusky gale]

I use OperaGX, and I never knew it had a network limiter. Turn it off and try again?

[real flower]

i would like to build my own compact router using something like pfsense. I am still learning but would like to use it as a way to secure the home nas/media server I am planning on building. I already have an eero pro 6 for wifi. but i would like something I can get 2.5gb or 10gb ethernet with. any recommendations. i was possibly looking at something like this. though im not sure how good the ethernet port is. But I can get one locally for $150 https://www.amazon.com/HP-EliteDesk-800-G2-Refurbished/dp/B0BNM1XNRM

[pseudo blade]

lol the english on that listing is quite broken

[pseudo blade]

That board doesn't offer much in the way of IO unless you use USB to ethernet adapters (which suck)

You might find these interesting to read: https://www.servethehome.com/tag/2-5gbe/

I will note you said secure - if you want to do IPS you'll want more CPU power but if it's just basic firewalling something like these would be miles better than the elitedesk

Another idea if you're on a budget... considered just setting up a router on your NAS?

[real flower]

is there a pro/con to doing the router on the nas itself? outside of cost? it just seemed like the router would be best to be on it's own device

maybe it would be better to look for an old dell tower i can thrown a 2.5gbe card into.

[pseudo blade]

The pro is one less device, less power draw and less cabling.
The cons are:

• CPU load from NAT+forwarding is now on your NAS
• the two purposes sharing a CPU must now be kept in mind from a security perspective
• If your NAS sucks and you'd do your routing on the host kernel you're stuck with that old kernel and if it doesn't have something you want, tough
• If your NAS breaks your router goes with it

[real flower]

Yea. I'm thinking I'd rather do a dedicated box.

[pseudo blade]

tbh in a home environment most of that doesn't matter a ton

But if you want a dedicated box... why a dell tower over one of the 2.5gbps boxes mentioned in the STH articles?

Are you doing anything that actually needs more performance? it will cost you in greater power consumption

[real flower]

No I'm still looking at those options too. I've also had this saved as well which should probably work Qotom-Q750G5-S08 Router Mini PC Intel Celeron J4125 AES-NI 5X Intel I225-V 2.5G LAN Quad Core (8G DDR4 RAM + 128G MSATA SSD) https://a.co/d/6GKOXH5

Yea id want the power consumption to be low. There's also some beelink devices that fit the bill for about the same price but only 2 2.5gbe ports

[pseudo blade]

8GB RAM is overkill for a router just doing routing in a home, though too much ram has never been a problem

Motherboard layout is interesting - the mini pcie slots are stacked staggered?

Probably not good for thermals, and that SIM slot's in the absolute worst spot if you care about that

Even wackier, the SIM slot's for the white mini pcie slot, not the grey one

So the mSATA boot disk comes out last to get it, after the modem as well

[dark crow]

yo
i have a 5G huawei router thats locked to an isp but i want to use another sim card on it and it requires a sim unlock code which i dont have what do i do?

[pseudo blade]

Acquire the sim unlock code from your telecommunications provider for your SIM. They have it.

[dark crow]

do i just call them and ask for it?

[pseudo blade]

Yep

Or worst-case they have your PUK you can use to unlock it anyways

[dark crow]

isnt that the code that comes on the sim card case?

[pseudo blade]

It could

Doesn't here

[dark crow]

but its 8 digits and it requires 16

so i dont think it would work

[pseudo blade]

You probably want the SIM Network Unlock Pin then

[dark crow]

yeah

[pseudo blade]

Which you must get from the losing ISP that provided the hardware.

Usually you must pay for the privilege.

[dark crow]

damn

so they sell you a router that you cant actually use without their sim

its bascially just a brick without a code

[pseudo blade]

If you're in the US you might be able to get it free

Apparently that's a thing there

[dark crow]

i dont live in the us

ill try anyways to ask for it anyways

worst case scenario ill have to buy it online and it costs like 60$

[pseudo blade]

Don't buy it online, only your carrier can provide it.

[raven hedge]

“cannot connect to this network” what’s the cause and how do i fix it

[waxen scroll]

No u

[hollow marlin]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll

[waxen scroll]

tell them some guy on discord told you that exempt status for non-software engineers is illegal

[hollow marlin]

Under NY law it falls under all the requirements for exempt status

[waxen scroll]

Grats but dont work over 40

[hollow marlin]

I've been exempt for some time and keep to 40h max. But we have a ton of leniency on flex time too.

[clear igloo]

You are the network architect now!! 😄

[real flower]

yea 8gb is a lot, theres a 4gb version with little price difference. also, this device seems to be cheaper than the ones ive seen on the servethehome site you linked. i was hoping i could get away with the cost of it being 150-200. which is also why i was looking at some used dell devices I can get even for 100 or sometimes less.

and with those, all i need to do is make sure i can install a pcie network card to get the extra ports

[real flower]

really though, now that im thinking about it, i only really need 2.5gbe to the nas. not from the router. only my nas and personal laptop will be plugged in directly to the ethernet. my wifes computer and other devices are all wireless. both my ISP's router and my eero pro 6 only have 1gbe anyways. and this device would go between them. then the NAS would go to this as well so I think, the nas is what really needs the 2.5gbe+ nics.
However, if I use plex over the wifi network, i think that would still hit 1gbe limits having to go through the eero

[sonic notch]

Let's say I had a phone and a TV connected to an unmanaged switch, and that unmanaged switch connects to a router. If I wanted to send a video stream or something from the phone to the TV, where does traffic go? Does it go "phone-switch-tv" or does it go "phone-switch-router-switch-tv"?

And if all the equipment is gigabit and I'm transferring a large file from the phone, what lines/wires are gonna be fully saturated?

[waxen scroll]

phone-switch-tv

with a cheap switch who knows.... sometimes groups of ports share bandwidth

the switch needs to support line rate for all ports

[warm sable]

Hello Everyone! I am currently trying to download a decent big game on steam but having 0 luck with my internet Downloading speed… it’s popping up and down from 90mbs to 0b/s. does anyone know why this is occurring?

[meager ginkgo]

This happens to me aswell, I think it's a normal thing with the steam servers

[rocky badge]

@meager ginkgo @waxen scroll My parents will kill me if I mess up the network at 8pm tonight

[waxen scroll]

Y

[rocky badge]

Football game tonight

[waxen scroll]

I hate sportsball. Touch the network

[unkempt ferry]

Is there a way from CF Zero Trust to block public access to certain paths of a domain like domain.com/admin

[peak cloak]

no clue, but someone on the cf discord prob does

[unkempt ferry]

There's a CF discord?!

[peak cloak]

yes, it's very active

https://blog.cloudflare.com/meet-the-workers-team-over-discord/

[unkempt ferry]

thanks!

[rocky badge]

yes

https://i.ryois.me/1gm5ESUmk1.png

[lapis agate]

Hella poggers internet upgrade

2.41x on down and 9.02x up

(that's Australia for you) that first pic is high as well. Before that (don't have any test from this phone) it was like 0.05-0.1 down and 0.07-1.2 up

[odd sigil]

I am going to throw this goddamn laptop out the window, about a week ago it decided it wont exceed 200kb/s download or upload and I still have no fucking idea what its problem is

[waxen scroll]

oooooof

[clear igloo]

lol

[steel flume]

looking for ways to improve internet speed from my device without paying nun

[clear igloo]

Move closer, pay more money, run a cable

[thick minnow]

hi! i have a hyper-v nat set up but i can't manage to add a netnatstaticmapping or an external address
not being able to add the static mapping is expected if i don't have an external address but if i try to add the external address i get the error "element not found"

[peak cloak]

well you can't just add whatever IP address you want to your adapter

in a home environment your IP address is assigned by your router via DHCP

[thick minnow]

i already have

[thick minnow]

this isn't a home environment

[peak cloak]

what's your ipconfig /all

[thick minnow]

can i dm you this info since i'm technically not meant to share all the ips we have

i don't mind keeping all the tech support to this guild but i'm not comfortable with sharing all the ips we have

[meager ginkgo]

Not much you can do besides changing wifi channels

[viral gulch]

Trying to get my head around IPv6 link-local addressing and what it's for.

Does anyone know whether fe80:: addresses can be used locally on the same network to access services on hosts just by knowing their MAC address, or can fe80:: only be used for certain things?

If I set my IPv6 gateway to the EUI-64 fe80:: address of my router, it routes the traffic just fine. But if I try and set my DNS server to point at the same fe80:: address, the client can't seem to find the DNS server even though there's definitely one running on that device.

Actually I can't even ping that address. And yet it lets me route traffic.

Aha I think I managed to answer my own question. Looks like there's a suffix like %18 that needs to be applied to an fe80:: address that specifies which interface the traffic needs to exit through. Which makes sense, since otherwise the client has no way of knowing.

This mustn't be needed when specifying gateways since gateways are always going to be bound to an interface anyway so it's implied already.

[peak cloak]

Yeah, although v6 gateways should be a global IP iirc not link local

[viral gulch]

Ah that’s interesting! Both definitely work, but if I let the v6 gateway configure itself via Router Advertisements then it seems to be the link-local address it decides to use, so I figured that one was the preferred method.

[peak cloak]

Huh, not sure then would need to check

Could be a weird vendor specific thing, common with v6

[viral gulch]

In this case the “vendor” would just be me running radvd on Linux to do the Router Advertisements, and it seems like this config option would be the relevant one. Looks like that’s default behaviour for radvd. Whether it’s “best practice” though… no idea

[hollow marlin]

Link-Local (LL) can only be used locally (same L2 domain) and cannot be routed. This address is always assigned to an interface and devices can use this to communicate no problem.

If you use Router-Advertisements (RA) to dynamically assign Global-Unicast Address (GUA), it will also obtain a GUA based on how the RAs are setup. A non-LL address is required if you want to route at all.

When a device is determining which address to use, if you specify a dst. LL address, it will use it's LL address. If you specify a non-LL address, it will use it's GUA and never use the LL. That's ignoring the other various reserved addresses

[viral gulch]

Thanks! This does make sense. I knew that the LL addresses only worked within the same L2 domain but I think what I was missing was the fact that they don’t get added to the routing table so you need that extra bit of info in terms of specifying the interface when trying to use them, otherwise the host has no idea what interface to try and send the traffic out of.

[viral gulch]

I have a bunch of VLANs attached to a single router, each on a different v6 prefix, and what I was trying to do was standardise some of my configs by using the LL addresses where possible (to point the clients to NTP/DNS services hosted on the router).

I was hoping that would work since the LL address of the router is the same no matter what VLAN you’re on, but the global address for the router is different for each VLAN as each one has a different prefix.

Oh well I guess I can just maintain different configs per-VLAN.

[static moat]

What is WAN IP binding in DynDNS setting?

In router

[rocky hawk]

It's New Year I've decided to combine swap parts from my work PC (i7 12700k, 1050 Ti) and my personal PC (i9 9900k but with an RTX 4090) to have a better CPU+GPU match.

Since I'm already dismantling stuff and I can shuffle around parts I can use one of the two network cards on my home PC. One is Intel X540 (10Gbit ethernet), the other one is Intel X520 (10Gbit SFP+). I have a 10Gbit SFP+ switch on my desk and I can use either of them (with a transceiver). Is there any advantage of using one over the other that I'm not aware of?

[static moat]

they are specific models. try looking up the features for both e.g. in their official documentation. If there is nothing that one lacks, and both are just as reliable, i dont think it matters

[sonic notch]

Ok so I'm having an issue where some of my devices are connecting to the 2.4 GHz instead of the 5 GHz channels, and making a separate "IoT" SSID isn't really an option. Will hiding the 2.4 GHz SSID have any effect?

[rocky badge]

@meager ginkgo @peak cloak bro the Ubiquiti discord is so toxic 💀

[meager ginkgo]

I’ve always kind of thought that but have never said it out loud 😂

they always try to pressure people into expensive things when they’re not needed I’ve noticed

[rocky badge]

or just plain flat out rude lol

[meager ginkgo]

yeah exactly.

[rocky hawk]

Well, my question is mostly about whether it's better to use SFP+ directly or go 10Gbit ethernet through transceiver. My intuition tells me it's better to use SFP+, however SFP+ gets hot in the case and I'm not sure how drivers for both of those are handled (mostly latency).

[waxen scroll]

what

have you tried being toxic back?

[thick minnow]

Anyone own this and know if its a good router?

[clear igloo]

Not for that price it's not

I mean it's good but not something I would buy at that price for a travel router

[static moat]

can someone help me with VLAN?

i have a managed network switch but i dont know if my router supports vlan tagged packets

its Archer AX1800

i found this in the settings

[clear igloo]

That's internet facing tags which your ISP would tell you to set, it doesn't support LAN based 802.1q

[static moat]

so my router is useless

i bought a new router and new switch just so i could be 'safer' with a port forwarded device

is there nothing i can do?

i was told a need a VLAN for port forwarded devices for safety

the switch is a managed switch

[clear igloo]

Unless you do additional access based filtering a VLAN from the router down means nothing unless you block the two VLANs from talking on the router too. Just having a VLAN doesn't mean much of anything in this context since I assume you wouldn't block it all the way up

A VLAN is a tool in the toolbox but does not guarantee security without other mechanisms in place to prevent traffic from talking across those VLANs

[static moat]

i spent 85$ on the router and 30$ on the switch

and your telling me it was all pointless

[clear igloo]

If you're not going to use the tools properly to segment the network? then yes

[static moat]

so what are my options

because i dont know much

[clear igloo]

Maybe OpenWRT flashed onto the router, not sure

[static moat]

i just wanted to host a server for my friends

[static moat]

if i flash OpenWRT to it will it support VLAN?

like i want it to

[clear igloo]

I don't know, you'll have to do research to see

[static moat]

the previous router is on the list of supported devices

the first 3 say it wont be able to upport up to date firmware, but luckly i got the V5 which is 8MB flash, 64MB RAM

[static moat]

wait so my managed switch is also usless

what the point of a managed switch

if i need a VLAN supporting router

so i have to setup the VLANS on the router anyways

so you dont need a managed switch

[south blade]

Network shares, how do I add \\192.168.1.103? Windows wants a folder at the address, I can give it to it but I wanted to see both folders shares I have in Ubuntu under one. \\192.168.1.103\Seagate_BUP_Slim works, \\192.168.1.103\Torrents works.

[peak cloak]

You still need a managed switch for VLANs

I think you may be confusing subnets and VLANs

[static moat]

this is a managed switch

[peak cloak]

Yes

You need a router that supports vlans and switch that does as well

[static moat]

ah sorry wrong thread

yeah im trying to access the switch UI but im unable to

any idea?

it says to set a static ip adress of range 192.168.0.1-192.168.0.254

which i have done shown here

and access the UI via 192.168.0.1

[peak cloak]

Are you connected to the switch and only the switch

[static moat]

which yields this

ill disconnect from wifi for a moment and try again

[peak cloak]

What switch is it

[static moat]

Haha i restarted it

And i can access it now, i plugged in like 3 other cables

Why did that affect it?

Also this time the cable was plugged in when i started it

Instead of starting it first then plugging in the cable

[peak cloak]

was it connected to the router?

[static moat]

yeah

[peak cloak]

that's prob why

[static moat]

yeah probably

[peak cloak]

that's why I set a static IP within the subnet of my network

[static moat]

im just so bummed i spent all this time and money only to now have a useless switch and router

[peak cloak]

how is the switch useless?

[static moat]

i bought it only so i could set up a vlan for a port forwarded device

same with the router

i was told i need a vlan for security

for a device that has ports forwarded to it

[peak cloak]

you want a separate subnet, doesn't need to be on a vlan

[static moat]

you sure i will be safe?

[peak cloak]

yes

[static moat]

i have a device that hosts a game server

[peak cloak]

a vlan just usually hosts a seperate subnet

[static moat]

and i have a few ports fowarded to it

[peak cloak]

a vlan is just a way to have multiple subnets over one physical interface

[static moat]

PresentMonkey you may have just saved me a ton

sorry for being a douche a few months back btw

[peak cloak]

what you can do if the router allows is set up one port on the router to be a seperate subnet

[static moat]

i have a few questions about this stuff. i tried to learn about VLANs and subnets and stuff but its all very fresh and not all the way in there

[static moat]

i dont think i have individual port control on the router, but it does have static routing

its tp-link archer AX1800

[peak cloak]

Yeah I doubt it can do that

Anything consumer probably doesn't have these features

[static moat]

so what is static routing then

[long mortar]

does anyone know how to fix lag spikes on fortnite i am using one of them tp link things

[static moat]

i thought that waas used to indicate where to direct traffic to a subnet

i also cant find any routers on amazon that support VLAN

[static moat]

^

[bright helm]

mikrotik routers support vlans

[static moat]

yeah but Present Monkey said that i could use a subnet?

[bright helm]

ok

[meager ginkgo]

TP-Link ER605

[static moat]

does my router need to support subnets in order for my switch that does support subnets to be able to have subnets?

[peak cloak]

A switch does not care about subnets

It doesn't operate on a L3 level

[static moat]

yeah i figured

yeah lvl2

i think i might try flash OpenWRT to my old router that supports it

[static moat]

do you recommend a VLAN or a Subnet for a device that has ports forwarded to it?

[peak cloak]

All a vlan is, is an identifier that a router, switch or whatever device that transmits the packet adds.

[peak cloak]

It's not one or the other

[static moat]

but you said earlier i could use a subnet instead of a vlan?

[peak cloak]

yes you can

[static moat]

so it is one or the other?

[peak cloak]

no, so you can either have 1 port with vlans, then the switch splits up the vlans to the designated ports, or you just assign one port on the router to be your normal LAN and another port on router to be your servers, eliminating the need for vlans. Both instances utilize subnets

example with vlans https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387022787480387605/1052271850970947634/image.png

without vlans https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387022787480387605/1052271742887923852/image.png

[static moat]

and the reason i cant just make 1 port on the switch go to the servers, and a different port to go to other devices is because they opperate at a different layer?

[peak cloak]

I don't understand

[static moat]

because you said earlier switch cant have subnets manage subnets by itself

because it operates at a different level

mac adresses instead of IPs?

[peak cloak]

yes, a switch is blind to IPs (L3), it work on L2

[static moat]

whats lvl1

[peak cloak]

physical connection

[static moat]

like an RJ45 port?

[peak cloak]

yes

[static moat]

ah ok

which do you recommend then?

is one more secure than the other?