audio-tech

[zenith pawn]

Can you distinguish when switching to them blindly and then listening over a long period?

[steel escarp]

yes, if you know the specific queues to look for and have heard both on the same song

if I didn't know the song, I'd definitely be less confident in being consistent

I really want the type of sound that makes me stop focusing on the details and just sound effortless. So you can listen to the music instead of the headphones.

Susvara was a mistake in that aspect.

[broken grotto]

then you aren't an audiophile

audiophiles hate music

they love spending money

[lone flame]

Audiophile = Good Sound Enjoyers = Climax

[broken grotto]

this is why i realized i am not in fact an audiophile

because regardless of the cans I am listening to, I just want to enjoy my music

[zenith pawn]

Just be both

Enjoy the music and be autistic over the audio chain

[lone flame]

Be Audiophile.
Get good gear.
Gear sounds good.
Put on music
K-Pop
You hear the fucking stupid 16-19kHz treble shit to control lightsticks.
Cry because you can hear it and its annoying af.

We have a hard life 🙁

[broken grotto]

you shouldn't hear that on the album tho

[lone flame]

oh boy... if the single has it

[prime sleet]

I cant get shit done when listening to music anymore cause my headphones keep grabbing my attention with all the details 😭

[zenith pawn]

The 16-19khz what

[lone flame]

in some (alot) of KPop tracks

you hear some 16kHz to 19kHz harsh beep tones

they use that oftenly to control lightsticks

[zenith pawn]

Weird

[lone flame]

[haughty sandal]

https://www.engadget.com/ai/broadcom-just-announced-an-ai-chipset-that-translates-audio-in-real-time-directly-on-the-device-050036717.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=bluesky&guccounter=1

[regal condor]

Would it be fine if I use a different cable? The iems i had came with simgot lc7 cord, I can't find one here and aliexpress would take a while, I was thinking of getting moondrop line k cable instead

[broken grotto]

If its the same connector, its fine.

The line k is kinda expensive tho

[regal condor]

They're both the same price

I'm talking quality wise at least

[broken grotto]

A cable is a cable

Unless there's something seriously wrong with the cable, theyre basically transparent

95% of the time I just cable swap because of aesthetic

[lone flame]

cables should be a "how they feel", build and look thing

actual different sound? nah very unlikely

or if you wanna switch connectors like BAL or SE

[zenith pawn]

bro I swear the electrons have a different collision time constant in this $5000 iem cable, you gotta buy it for yourself

[terse river]

I mean you could just filter out the specific frequencies, I assume they’re narrowband, so you probably wouldn’t lose many overtones of other sounds

Yeah they’re narrowband

[regal condor]

Then i'm still stuck between these two, they just look quite good with the headphones being fully silver

[broken grotto]

which one can you get tomorrow, and which one next week?

[regal condor]

Line k tomorrow and lc7 next week

I have the et142

[broken grotto]

you have your answer then

[livid ruin]

has to have AI ofc

but cool nonetheless

[broken grotto]

AI mostly a blanket term that covers a very large amount of technology

ie, i mostly make digital image processing ASICS, which is technically, AI because of the CNN

(ie, convolutional neural network)

not all of it is genAI, and a lot of it actually very kewl

[sly lance]

hi all im getting 2 sonos 1 speakers free but i already have a jbl authentics 200 i was wondering if there was any way to connect them all together for a good quality pc sound setup without any extra components.

[surreal perch]

Not sure where to put this or ask. Will move if I need to...

I am looking for a bluetooth adapter for my work desktop that will allow me to use my new airpods (pro 3 if it matters) with decent range. What is the best sub $30 adapter on the market. USA location...

Just want to know what the best one is, billed to the company

[dawn panther]

New speaker day! Can't wait to get these home

[broken grotto]

prolly ugreen, i've had good luck with those.

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/doubletake-gif-20683599

Actual hifi in #audio-tech

Rare

[lean grove]

I hear good things about the creative bluetooth dongle

[elder thistle]

listening to good music on a shit headphone is like trying to enjoy a sheetz milkshake with a paper straw

and sheetz milkshakes are one of the 7 world wonders

[broken grotto]

If it's between crap cans and no music

I'll take the bad cans

[lone flame]

is EQ allowed?

[broken grotto]

sure

I literally don't care what cans you listen to, you just need to enjoy moosic.

music is a wonderful thing, it's the universal language.

listen, enjoy, and don't bother worrying too much about what the best is; listen to what sounds good to you.

and sometimes, i even use different headphones depending on the mood im in

looking at old pictures, maybe I want a headphone that brings out the parts of the music I listen to that reminds me of those days, or sometimes if I'm feeling sorry for myself the headphones that bring out the most depressing part of the music

i really couldn't care less about if that particular headphone is "good," or "bad," as referred to by some youtuber.

[surreal perch]

Didnt see this one when I searched before, if the one I get gives me any problems i will grab this one as it looks better

[broken grotto]

til that existed

buying one

[surreal perch]

let us know how it goes

[rocky scaffold]

ah yes good evening audiophiles

[keen glen]

Hi all,
In a recent video, they talked about scooping frequencies to help people talk and hear each other more easily, and I had a few questions for you experts 🙂

• If the audio includes vocals, will this affect the quality? Singing probably spans a broader range than speech, but it must still cover the same range—and genres like rap could hit similar frequencies.
• What frequency range is sensible to scoop if that's the goal?
• Is it just me who wishes every pub/club does this, or am I just getting old?

[lean grove]

If you look close in the video you can see what changes they made.

1. Yes it will reduce the vocals. So it will push the singer back, and also parts of the other instruments. But the point here is for you to be able to hear your buddy and have the music be background music so fidelity isn't really the goal here.

2. See screenshot.

3. No this is a pretty good idea.

[icy salmon]

FINALLY got lossless on spotify for linux. app didnt even update it just gave it to me. genuinely sounds so much better without windows compression

[barren hill]

Could anyone help me with picking a new audio interface? I cant really decide on one

[lean grove]

What are your needs and what's your budget?

[barren hill]

Im usually just talking with friends etc
and my budget is about 250€ at most

[lean grove]

Do you use OBS?
Do you need zero latency mic monitoring?

Or do you literally just need a box to plug an XLR mic into

How much fiddling to you wanna do

[barren hill]

I use obs if I do record something yeah

[barren hill]

I currently have a Behringer one but I had some issues with it recently

[lean grove]

What issues

[barren hill]

a bit atleast

Ive had problems where the interface just wouldnt show up to select anywhere

It always happened randomly and then worked again randomly

[lean grove]

@barren hill check out the elgato wave XLR. its simple and has a lot of convienent features.
a lot of what makes it good, OBS can do it for free (albiet without the hardware integration). so if you want to mess around with the OBS mic settings and get something else like a motu M2 that would be more economical.

[barren hill]

I looked at the Universal Audio Volt 1, Audient iD4, SSL 2 and Motu M2 earlier today

[broken grotto]

fwiw I recently bought the Stream Deck + with XLR dock

[barren hill]

And from what I remember most people said the wave xlr was mostly for like streamers

[broken grotto]

might not be the best, and I have basically no reason for it

but it works pretty good so far.

I will say it is noticeably less higher quality than it used to be; way more junky feeling plastic and the buttons are larger than my OG stream deck... so not sure what that's about.

[lean grove]

it is. the elgato software is pretty nice too. i wouldn't mind having one.

its got handy features for non-streamers too

the main things are the vocal processing and the huge amounts of gain.
so a lot of people complain about background noise and having to constantly re-adjust their mic whenever they move. vocal processing using noise gates and compressors fix those pretty well. OBS can do these for free though

[broken grotto]

I think most XLR interfaces are probably fine for both streaming and non-streaming

it shouldn't be such a large difference that it is like, unusable.

but idk, i rarely use a mic

[lean grove]

the difference is convenience.

and thats pretty much it

[barren hill]

Would there be any noticeable quality difference if I upgrade to the wave xlr or any other one in the same range to my current one?

[lean grove]

wdym

[barren hill]

Like if the audio quality would get better by alot

[lean grove]

the interface?

oh sorry i misread

i mean. maybe.

that really depends on your friends

since you're never gonna hear your own mic

your friends are

and my guess is, most of the benefits will be lost over discord compression or whatever cursed voip your preferred video game uses

you can get something like a ZOOM AMS-22 and pocket the difference no problem

or an m-track solo

biggest difference will be less hissing

which, if you're using noise reduction on discord or whatever, will also increase the quality of your voice

[barren hill]

The m-track solo is around the price of the one im currently using

[barren hill]

good to know

[lean grove]

if your only problem is that usb occasionally disconnects, then do you really need to get soimething substantially nicer?

side-grade could solve your problem

[barren hill]

It might be my imagination that I need something better aswell but the usb disconnecting is getting pretty annoying

[lean grove]

The USB connection might be a problem with your individual unit or a problem with your PC

Or a problem between the two

[steel escarp]

I got a new dac

@warm scarab

[unique wind]

jajajajaja

[steel escarp]

tbh the upgrade is whatever, im just happy the usb popping noises stopped

[steel escarp]

lmao the dac is bright for no reason

good thing I lowballed the seller, time to resell

[steel escarp]

holy shit I've discoverd the hidden treasure called Audirvana, this is like the biggest upgrade in my audio I have heard

[lone flame]

No Cyan 2?

[steel escarp]

I had one, but I returned it after a week

couldn't be bother to upsample, but I didn't know Audirvana can also upsample

and its kernel level streaming is so nice

[lone flame]

Ye idk

Never heard an high end dac

Atleast not in a quiet room with own music lol

Im happy with my D70s

[steel escarp]

you can get a Chord Mojo 2 for that???

[lone flame]

Ye but nahhh

[steel escarp]

nah?

its still one of the best dacs I have heard

[lone flame]

I don't want a mojo 2

[steel escarp]

alr

[lone flame]

It's ugly

[steel escarp]

lol

[lone flame]

How does it sound for you compared to an transparent dac

[steel escarp]

what is a transparent dac

[lone flame]

Dead ass straight sound

[steel escarp]

doesn't exist

[lone flame]

No coloration

[steel escarp]

unless you use vinyl from an analog master

but then you have no digital audio in your system

[lone flame]

A CD sounds better lol

Or atleast has better quality if you care about that

[steel escarp]

its digital

so you need a dac

[lone flame]

Yeah. And?

I don't think that you can hear that shit

That difference

I'm not a source memer

I just buy stuff that I want and recommend stuff just that the headphones can be powered

So mostly Apple Dongle lol

[steel escarp]

EU apple dongle is too cucked in power

[lone flame]

Ik

Still enough for alot

If not. KA11

Works too

Have compared Onboard, phone, apple dongle, C200 and D70s Dacs.

Can't tell a real difference

Maybe the stuff I heard was placebo

D70s sounds like 5% better than the C200 I have but idk if that's just placebo lol

So for that little difference idc. Or is not worth it

[steel escarp]

for most headphones what you run them off doesn't matter

and when it does matter, its not like you get double the sound by getting better gear

[lone flame]

The audio World is weird xD

In general..

Some objectivists
Some Placebo cursed people
Trash talkers
And way more people lol

[zenith pawn]

only if you have ultrasonic hearing like golden and you can hear into the transition zone (whatever it's called) where it gets attenuated before nyquist

[lone flame]

I can hear very high

My record was a bit over 22kHz

With cleaned ears lol.
Now I have earwax stuck again so not now

But Fr. Most stuff above 20khz is mostly distortion anyways

From the mix of the music

(I listen to EDM mostly)

[livid ruin]

Happy with my sub 20 dacs

can't tell them apart from boxy 150+ dacs

well, i can't crank the volume up to deafening levels

[rare juniper]

yall get any headset recs, $200

[livid ruin]

Mic required? Or dedicated can be?

[upper lava]

It's that time again. My Audio-Technica ATH-M50x are about to start peeling on the headband and earpads. I don't know if there is a way to fix it on the headband so I'm here for advice. Do I. . . .

1. Get new headphones for gaming (I have a standalone mic and found the ATH-M50x to be a little lacking in surround)

2. Get new ones in the $50-$150 range?
   2a) Which ones should I look at?

[lean grove]

Fiio FT1 fits your bill

though you can still get replacement pads and get one of these for the headband
https://capraaudio.com/products/audio-technica-m50x-comfort-strap

and im pretty sure you can get replacement headbands for the m50x on ali express

[warm silo]

audeze has a great sale going now

I bought an LCD-2C and LCD-GX for under a grand

[kind hawk]

hello are these any good

[wheat moss]

Are you really asking if the SM7b is good?

It is very good. And probably a waste of money for your needs if you have to ask if it's good

[sleek lily]

Expensive 🫰 💰

PSA for everyone. If you see a transformer in the power supply of your amplifier, it is lowfi. Wire is hifi. Replace that transformer with simple shorted wire for best sound experience.

Repeat steps for DAC if you notice no audio to fix issue

[broken grotto]

You probably dont need the preamp

Check if your interface already has a preamp

Many of them do iir

[wanton peak]

Which one i should get for my guitar
https://amzn.eu/d/j6UCG6a
https://amzn.eu/d/d6d3ERw

[fervent hare]

Fixble?

[lone flame]

dont

[lone flame]

Vocaster One, SSL2, Rodecaster

to name from cheapt to more expensive

[lean grove]

Uhhh... You can save $400 by simply not getting the sm7b

Get an sm58

[lean grove]

It's a waste of money because people have to bend over backwards to get it usable when all they need is a vocal mic

Big streamer meme that most people absolutely do not need to buy

[viscid tangle]

Mic also doesn’t sound good on a lot of voices, people could sound so much better on other mics but are too busy insta buying the sm7b

[lean grove]

Fr

I see too many people looking for help on how to eq their sm7b right after buying it

[warm silo]

for the price id rather one of these https://www.guitarcenter.com/Electro-Voice/RE20-Dynamic-Broadcast-Microphone-with-Variable-D-Black-1500000333804.gc

[lean grove]

That's a lot of money to spend a mic thats gonna get fed through a low bitrate discord call and be broadcast to your friends with $50 headsets

[warm silo]

true

I do a lot more with my mics than a discord call (live sound related) so I see a $500 mic and think "thats reasonable"

[wanton peak]

Can you clone a boot disk to another disk with all the services and all

encryption too

[lean grove]

Buddy this is #audio-tech

[wanton peak]

didnt realize my bad

i was gonna ask this here

Which one i should get for my guitar
https://amzn.eu/d/j6UCG6a
https://amzn.eu/d/d6d3ERw

[warm silo]

sir this is a wendys

[broken grotto]

Yeah, block level clone.

[wanton peak]

i dont know what that means can you explain

i bought the shorter one

[cold spindle]

for a guitar just make sure it shorter then 50M and just decent cable... tbh just using some old coax and putting on some jacks in most cases is good enough... tho yeah a lot of brands are just overpriced

[wanton peak]

my old cable was so bad that i was always having big ass noises coming from it

like i couldnt even hear my guitar

i also have bad guitar and umc22 sound board but i dont know

[cold spindle]

do you have any pedals between your guitar and umc22?

[wanton peak]

no

its soundboard not amph

[cold spindle]

you still can use pedals to it and i guess you have it in the instrument port or the mic/line one

also it's just a normal electric guitar

[wanton peak]

wont spend that much i've been using a cheap guitar for the last like 4 years

[cold spindle]

like it just if you plug a guitar directly in a interface it often doesn't sound good the way would be a amp or a amp simulator between the guitar and the interface

like swaping a cable doesn't really help with fixing those issues it might be a bit better tho it still has issues often

[wanton peak]

its floyd rose but from ROCKson brand

and my bridge is half way up from bottom

[cold spindle]

yeah and you just plug the guitar is just plugged into the umc22 nothing in between it right

[wanton peak]

not mine but just like this

but mine is even more higher

[cold spindle]

yeah that shouldn't matter really. it's just a guitar level is kinda low to be directly put into a interface. what most people do is guitar out to amp. and the amp has a output to the interface. and then you have less noise.

[wanton peak]

no no i use guitar 6

like this how can i fix this by the way

[cold spindle]

well i hope it works with the new cable. if it doesn't try putting the cable to the port that is meant for the mic

[wanton peak]

the tension is too much that guitar doesnt hold the notes

[wanton peak]

okay i'll try

it will come at wednesday

[cold spindle]

i would bring the guitar to a tech to ask if it matter that it's like that and if it does ask how much it cost to fix it better then trying to fix it yourself as you might break it

[wanton peak]

in here they charge you so much man i can get a cheap for that guitar price

i was hoping to fix it in home

[cold spindle]

then i would see if there a forum or a discord that is focused on guitars as idk if you find someone here who knows if it really matters. and they can say what you need to fix it of tools as that might cost as much as a new guitar if you don't have them

[fervent hare]

you need springs in the back of the tremolo

[fervent hare]

show me the back side of your guitar

[wanton peak]

i have the springs but they dont get tighter

[fervent hare]

show me the back side

[wanton peak]

currently cant but i can tomorrow

[fervent hare]

aright

[wanton peak]

buut same as this

[fervent hare]

maybe the screws arent tight enough

[wanton peak]

at the board currently should i get bigger screws

[fervent hare]

idk the screws could just be lose

[wanton peak]

found my problems thank you for making it obvious

this part is

[fervent hare]

np

oh yeah thats prolly it

[wanton peak]

instead of beingl ike this

its like on the bottom

[fervent hare]

yeah just tightien the screws and youll be fine

[wanton peak]

no i gotta bend the metal back to straight

but how can i do it

metal is bent from tension apparently

[fervent hare]

i think you should change them

could get them for like 10 euros maybe

maybee even cheaper from china but you can try do bend it but i dont think it will hold

[wanton peak]

do you know the name of it by any chance

[fervent hare]

no sadly

[molten skiff]

Which one should I get

[green marsh]

the robins

[smoky terrace]

My HDB 630 delivery date just changed to the end of the fucking month

It's actually indescribably over

https://tenor.com/view/ds2-hideo-kojima-ds2-on-the-beach-death-stranding-2-on-the-beach-gif-13602591004065032031

[viscid tangle]

could I power these with a sk02 amp/dac or would it be reasonable to spend extra for a fiio k11

[lone flame]

idk

Sundara are not that hard to drive

[livid ruin]

even <20$ dongle works

[wintry mirage]

just playing some 26hz track on my new sub its flexing the roof downstairs 😭😭

i guess my next upgrade will have to be reinforcing the whole ass house

It plays really low

shame theres so much background noise

[wanton peak]

The problem was far different then what i was expecting

[fervent hare]

what was it then

[wanton peak]

These screws were probably installed before the springs

thats why it was thight already

i just removed the bridge and put springs first

then screwed the bridge it fixed

just a really small gap left

And i'm okay with that

Only thing left is the truss rod adjustment

[fervent hare]

it will go out of tune very fast then

[wanton peak]

i belive thats what its called

Yeah it does but worst thing is when you do tapping its impossible to get good sound in thinner notes

[fervent hare]

is your neck warped?

[wanton peak]

yes

[fervent hare]

how bad

[wanton peak]

Waay too bad

i know how to fix that one but it always comes back to its original position

[fervent hare]

up or down

[wanton peak]

i dont know what to do about that

[wanton peak]

like this

[fervent hare]

your neck is fucked

[wanton peak]

i dont know but problem is it gets to what it suppose to be when i tighten it

but it goes back to warped again

i dont get it

[fervent hare]

if its that warped it wont go back

[wanton peak]

but it does thats what i dont get

Wood stretches easily

but problem is goes back easily too

[fervent hare]

no its not soft wood necks are made of hard wood

like maple oak ect

[wanton peak]

Mine is cheap guitar

i dont think its even wood

[fervent hare]

it is it prolly maple then

[wanton peak]

its probably shavings connected together

like wood shavings

[fervent hare]

then the neck would break whit the strings on

[wanton peak]

body is made out of wood shavings though i'm %100 sure about that one

in inside its like almsot hollow and glued together wood shavings 😄

they did so fucking bad job on this guitar

but electronicly its good that kinda sucks thats why i cant let it go

this guitar

from a brand called ROCKson

[fervent hare]

the neck is maple

[wanton peak]

if it makes any difference its colored by the way

the neck

[fervent hare]

maple is cheap btw

[wanton peak]

i get that but i still dont think its the case :d

this is probably cheaper then a cheap

[fervent hare]

i would not move the truss rod the neck could snap

can you send a pic of the neck warp

[warm scarab]

why sundaras

110$ ig

[wanton peak]

okay thank you

[viscid tangle]

Cheap and the eq I've done to me he400se is quite similar to the sundara

so figured I'd like it

[warm scarab]

i mean

edition xs exists

and its substantially better

[viscid tangle]

well already too late

headphones were $70 extra anyways

if only aliexpress was as easy amazon when returning but not the case

[warm scarab]

open a dispute and they will take it back

but sure

your call

i say this as a sundara owner

its not worth it when xs exists

i bought mine way before xs came out

[ionic slate]

does anyone have tips on headphones? im looking to buying new headsets for pc and i already have a seperate mic so no need to have mic on it but someone told me that headsets are way better then any "gaming" brand, i dont know mutch about good bang ofr the buck headphones for pc.
I also read somewhere that some of them are not great regarding the localization of steps behind you and since i play some games that require me to be able to distinguish where they are behind me i really dont know what "normal" headsets/headphones to go for that do the same job as the gaming ones a btw my budget is 150 euro

[green marsh]

all the localization cues are largely dependent on the game itself

i woul djust consider a fiio ft1 or something

[ionic slate]

do you have anymore recomendations with bluetooth etc

i honeslty dont like alot the desingn of the ft1s

[green marsh]

bt is shit for gaming

[ionic slate]

ha alright but any more different recomendations at the same price point? or even like cheaper? honestly i prefer black

[lean grove]

not very many decent headphones cheaper than the FT1's. below that, IEMs dominate the price bracket.

[ionic slate]

IEMs ? its a type right

[lean grove]

its earbuds

something like the truthear gate

[ionic slate]

ho i see nah earbusd i dont like them i have a cat and well lets just say she will have alot of fun if i leave them dangling

[lean grove]

then dont, lol

[ionic slate]

yeah yeah but thanks tho so the FT1S would be like the best to go for at my price range and always win against ANY "gaming" headset right ?=

[subtle remnant]

a cultured. i own both the jt1 and 3 lol.

[lean grove]

cant guarantee that.
The ft1's are tuned in a way that they will be a good fit for most people.

there are, of course, people who wont like it.

[ionic slate]

cause my hyperx that stoped working on one side lasted me for like 3 to 4 years and they lasted me the longest i just dont feel like going for the exact same ones xd

[verbal depot]

moondrop aria2 iems come with case and replaceable wire for cheap

[ionic slate]

yeah i see i see and all the other options would be above the price range basicaly

[subtle remnant]

iems are gonna beat most headphones when it comes to cheap.

[lean grove]

ehhh. theres lots of options

[green marsh]

not when ksc exists

[verbal depot]

they sound far better as far as clarity and loudness, bass is hit or miss

[lean grove]

ATH-R30x looks promising. its a bit cheaper than the FT1

its open back so if you're in a noisy environment that might be an issue

[ionic slate]

im just gonna use them home tbh

for gaming discord calls watching movies series etc

[lean grove]

R30x might be the move then. it comes in black.

[subtle remnant]

didnt fiio release ft7 that uses planars for like CHEAP?

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/yh2lWtQoVZ4

[subtle remnant]

wait not ft7 oops

fiios naming schemes are weird..

was the fiio jt7. sorry lol

[ionic slate]

tsym i will watch the vid

but yeah definitly headphones are gonna be a better option then any gaming headset

half of the price is marketing bs

[lean grove]

theres some bad headphones and some pretty good gaming headsets

so. yes theres a lot of marketing. but headphones have that too.

[subtle remnant]

goes for most gamer gear tbrh. i mean less for mouses ig but like lol

[ionic slate]

pretty good gaming headsets ? realy i thought all followed the same rule xd

[lean grove]

generally its better if the company spends most of their money on the headphones themselves. but price =/= quality.

[subtle remnant]

hyperx used to be goodish? but after HP?? i think bought them they started to regress

was either dell or HP cant remmeber

[ionic slate]

ha so hyperx its not good anymore i have alpha 3 and they lasted my like 4 years thats alot for me since i tend to ruind headsets pretty quick

[lean grove]

audeze maxwell is up there.

[subtle remnant]

when it comes to "audiophile" headphones shi can get expensive

[lean grove]

cloud III wireless S also llooks pretty good

[green marsh]

if you mean relative to other gaming headsets yeah

[subtle remnant]

naturally yeah

wouldnt put them anywhere near even 40 bucks non gaming headphones tbh

[ionic slate]

for me thats chinese HAHAH

[green marsh]

harman smh

[subtle remnant]

cause like some headphones require more power which means youll prob have to invest in amp/dac lol

[lean grove]

not deviating too far from the dotted line indicates pretty decent performance.

[green marsh]

did you not listen to sean olives talk

[lean grove]

sean who

oh you mean Doctor sean olive PhD!

[ionic slate]

thats a brand i see never heard of it but i like the design tbh

[lean grove]

Audeze is one of the more premium brands in the audiophile space

the midrange point of their headphones is $1000

[ionic slate]

ho sh well im good HAHA

[lean grove]

so the maxwells represent their attempt to enter the general gaming consumer space

[ionic slate]

and they are like 300 euro thats alot tham

[lean grove]

they also got bought by sony and they make the playstation pulse headphones

which are like $150

[subtle remnant]

still too much pretty sure

[lean grove]

then dont buy them lol

[subtle remnant]

i sure wont lol

[ionic slate]

i mean thats the price im willing to pay for ones but the design of playstation is kinda wack in my opinion

[lean grove]

also this is largely a myth. most headphones can be powered off of pretty much anything.

there are a handful of headphones that cant be used off of a basic amp.

most of which you probably wont run into because they're expensive

[subtle remnant]

keyword some NOT most lol

most will be FINE

[ionic slate]

mine would just be direcly connected to pc not any amp or mixer

[green marsh]

99%

there are like 5 headphones that cant be run off of a cheap amp

[lean grove]

even bringing it up as a potential issue overstates how much of a problem it really is.
like some people die a slow and horrific death by crawling headfirst into a cavern. doesnt mean i bring it up in casual conversation like its something i genuinely fear happening to me or anyone else I know

[lean grove]

and 4 of those 5 headphones are $$$$

dt880 600 ohm is the one i can think of that someone unwitting could buy.

[subtle remnant]

thats such a weird way to look at it lol. i rather let people know there may be a small issue here and there. because A: dont want people come complaining its not working right or B: they think its broken

[green marsh]

k1000, tungsten, para, and some other ones

[lean grove]

again. that is really really unlikely to happen.

[green marsh]

bro is tripping

[lean grove]

and the solution is a $10 dongle

[green marsh]

literally a non issue for nearly every headphone

[lean grove]

ive run into some people trying to play their stuff through a playstation controller

that could be a problem for some of the less efficient headphones. bringing that 99% figure down to like, 80%

but really. the power issue is something that traditional audiophiles have overblown. saying "oh if it gets loud enough that doesnt mean anything because they dont have high quality power" to justify their overspending on an amp

so its brought itself into the mainstream conversation around nicer headphones.

[subtle remnant]

i mean i for sure get that, do not get me wrong. i personally dont like that type of approach. i rather have people informed rather than not tbh.

[subtle remnant]

only thing i honestly dont get is the whole "burn in" stuff lol

[lean grove]

there's nothing to get its nonsense

mostly

[subtle remnant]

wouldnt the factories already burn them in if that even was a thing??

[lean grove]

some do. and they charge extra for it :)

[subtle remnant]

holy hell i cannot type correctly

[subtle remnant]

this more so due fact i buy pc for people lol.

[lean grove]

the thing that burns-in is your brain adjusting to the sound

[subtle remnant]

so im 99% support for them when sum goes wrong

[lean grove]

eh. that i get

if, for some reason, someone has a super anemic source then the remedy is like $20

for a dongle that can output 2 volts

[subtle remnant]

i went with the jm20? max cause someone who owned them recommended them. so far gives plenty enough power lol.

[lean grove]

Yup. That one gets recommended a lot.

[subtle remnant]

anyhow. yeah honestly theres quite some solid options from fiio. adio-technica and more that arent that expensive nor need a lot of power.

[subtle remnant]

pretty much like "just get this youll be fine lol"

[lean grove]

It just gets hucked out as a blanket recommendation because it covers pretty much what people need.

Fiio k11 is the next step up if someone wants something more robust.

[subtle remnant]

ive been pretty impressed with fiios offering for headphones tbh

jt1 while having a wonky sound signature are just fun to listen to tbh

one thing i really like is removable cables on headphones

[solemn hawk]

Need some headphone recs ($250). Currently looking at a fiio ft1 or beyerdynamic

prefer no mic

[craggy hinge]

I need help with a audio interface. I have a pd200x and dt990 pro 250 ohm. I need recommendations for an interface not to expensive like max 250 euro is black cuz my whole setup is like that i dont want a random red in it, is good for gaming and streaming ( has xlr and a port for 6,3mm jack )

I was thinking the motu m2 but if yall have a better one i would love to hear it

[steel escarp]

motu m2 is good

[craggy hinge]

so there is not really a better o-ption?

[lone flame]

PD200x is USB right?

if yes

get Apple Dongle for Headphones

and save 240€

or you can get FiiO KA11

and save 210€ and have headroom

[wheat seal]

I'm not too familiar with steelseries headsets, but I've been looking for a wireless headset and I see the Arctis Nova 7 on sale for $120 nearby. Are the Nova 7's a good headset?

[lone flame]

Cloud III Wireless S >>>>

doesn't really need EQ

so it has good stock sound 😄

[wheat seal]

Yeah but I don't see them on sale which is the big issue for me

[lone flame]

even if they are not on sale. its worth

the only good thing with Steelseries is their PEQ

but you can download a seperate PEQ anyways

here is 1. and 2nd gen Nova 7 vs Cloud III Wireless S

the tuning of the Cloud III Wireless S is just better

[wheat seal]

I don't doubt you, I just don't think I'm into audio quality so much as to speed an extra $60. I'm not really set on the Nova 7s I'm just trying to find something around $130 or less

Unless audio differences are huge, I usually can't tell a difference

[lone flame]

most people can hear a difference.
The Tuning is very important for the general "esperience"

it can help with "3D" sound (so hearing steps better)

and good tuning (mostly) sounds more realistic

u can buy both and send back what you dont like if you have the budget for that

[wheat seal]

That's fair I just really can't justify close to $200 after tax for a headset personally

[lone flame]

ah right. in US its nearly 200 bucks

[wheat seal]

Yeah it's as

[lone flame]

always have german prices in my head

[wheat seal]

God damn tariffs

[lone flame]

still would check it out

you can buy both and test it yourself

best way to tell what you prefer 😄

[wheat seal]

Yeah I'm gonna see if they go on sale or something

[lone flame]

or you go to stores and just listen to bunch of stuff

[lone flame]

prob not. they are pretty new on the audio market

[wheat seal]

I was looking at the Razer BlackShark V3x/V3's too since I heard they had good audio for fps and are 25% off near me

[lone flame]

Razer has no good audio

like. nowhere good audio

If you want good audio for FPS look at KSC75

open backs are straight up better for gaming,
but some people don't like open backs

and you need somewhat of a quiet environment

[wheat seal]

I didn't think this looked bad but then again I don't think I know really what I'm looking at so I could be absolutely stupid lmao

[wheat seal]

Yeah if I get open backs I'd probably have to lower my fan curves. I go pretty aggressive on them for cooling

[lone flame]

Wireless Headphones have one huge problem when it comes to tuning

EQ can be very difficulty

because most headset lack the right amount of headroom in volume to compensate the needed reduced pregain

[wheat seal]

So is that a bad graph then, as in the quality is bad?

[lone flame]

If you EQ a headphone you mostly have to make it generally quieter

[lone flame]

the graph itself is o.k

but fixing it would be annoying and probably ends in a quiet sound

[wheat seal]

Ah

[lone flame]

that's why i try to EQ as less as possible

wired headphones does not have that problem

you just get a lil AMP like Apple Dongle or KA11

and you can blast your ears to death lol

[wheat seal]

Yeah I have no problem with wired headphones inherently

It's just with my new pc

[lone flame]

as example
the Razer one would have a -8dB Pregain

[wheat seal]

The place I have to put it on my desk, the wire is REALLY annoying

If I could do wired without it dangling on my mouse arm, I would get wired to save money

[lone flame]

the HyperX one is at -3.8dB way better

[lone flame]

you can get a DAC/AMP

but that sht is expensive again

[wheat seal]

LMAO

Maybe if I just get a REALLY long headphone jack wire

[lone flame]

u can do a mix of USB Cable extension with apple dongle

and headphone

but also
a headphone for less than 130 uhh

idk the current US prices bcs of Tariffs 🙁

[wheat seal]

The main reason I'm even looking for headphones right now is simply the fucking wire. I have Arctis Nova 5 wired which I've had for a few years now, and I'm fine with them except the god damn wire

[lone flame]

ye wires can be annoying

i did a pretty clean and working layout where no wire annoys me

[wheat seal]

Yeah I wish I could put my PC underneath the desktop which would help immensely but I don't want it on the floor

[lone flame]

you can hang it

[wheat seal]

I don't think I can if I want my security deposit back

[lone flame]

just as example

[wheat seal]

OHHH

Interesting

[lone flame]

there are plenty of different products and styles to do that

some do it with solid stuff like that, some use ropes or so

[wheat seal]

My desk has a little wooden platform that's like 6 inches off the ground for a pc chassis to sit on, but my H7 FLOW is too big for it lol

[wheat seal]

Ropes is crazy

[lone flame]

here a strap or something

(would recommend to have some more space between desk and PC bcs or airflow)

[wheat seal]

Does the hyperx cloud 3 wired have the same sound quality as the cloud 3 s?

[lone flame]

no

[wheat seal]

Pain

[lone flame]

yeah

[wheat seal]

That's just confusing. Why isn't it just the same thing but wired smh

[lone flame]

DSP

[wheat seal]

Saw that it was on sale so I hoped for a second

[lone flame]

nearly every modern wireless headphones has a build in DSP

so a chip that applies "EQ" as firmware to it

[wheat seal]

Interesting. Are there any wired headsets you recommend that aren't super expensive?

[lone flame]

FiiO FT1 is my pick if you want closed backs

but

165 bucks

with no tax

i sadly run out of option cuz prices are so high over there :/

[wheat seal]

I'll have to see if I can find it on sale. I'm tryna stay like under $150, especially if it's wired

[lone flame]

IEMs also exist

[wheat seal]

LMAO yeah it sucks here

[lone flame]

would recommend the apple dongle anyways

[wheat seal]

3rd world country with lipstick on

[lone flame]

if you go wired

[wheat seal]

Apple dongle? Like the usb c to headphone jack thing?

[lone flame]

yep

[wheat seal]

Why?

[lone flame]

cuz its a nice DAC/AMP

[wheat seal]

Ah

[lone flame]

it performs better than onboard audio

[wheat seal]

I think I have one

[lone flame]

thats good

[wheat seal]

Oh wait that was a lightning one

Shit

Proprietary cables are the devil

[wheat seal]

I have some Bluetooth headphones and I was a fan of them, until the battery started basically killing itself after a few months. CMF Buds Pro 2. I was pretty happy with them except for the fact the battery life now is now where near what's advertised.

Used to only have to charge them like once a week when I got them, and now it's like every 2-3 days

I have some Air Pod Pro 2s which I've had for years, but something got fucked up with the noise cancellation I think and they make like clicking noises when I have them in. It's really annoying

[lone flame]

ye thats normal

normal Lithium battery behaviour

[wheat seal]

Are the HYPERx cloud alphas decent?

[lone flame]

Cloud III Wireless S is is the only decent HyperX xD

[wheat seal]

Nah they definitely lost capacity faster than any device I've ever had

[wheat seal]

[lone flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGSib_AgcTE

pretty new Video

[wheat seal]

Man I always spent like $2000 on this pc build. Another $200 is painful

[lone flame]

ik

the feeling is pain

[wheat seal]

If only my AirPods didn't make a horrendous clicking noise

I'd just use them

[lone flame]

Here is the FR of the Cloud III Wireless S on the most advanced rig

[wheat seal]

I ended up just getting the Arctis Nova 7 wireless on sale for $120, and I'm just gonna mess adjust the EQ based on this video https://youtu.be/WbWQtDqrdJQ?si=osP6yrhrLqrwXvRy

He had it as his top pick last year for mid tier headsets

[subtle remnant]

hey if youre happy with em. all dat amtters tbh

[wheat seal]

Yeah I didn't mind the 5's I had

[rustic holly]

Hey yall, I debating picking up some Airpod Pro 3s. I currently have the OG Airpods Pro (bought in June of 2022) but they are starting to have issues and I want a better ANC expiriance. Should I pull the trigger now or wait to see if they go on sale for Black Friday/Cyber Monday?

[molten lotus]

might get new iems

i have the qkz sk8 in mind

[sage canyon]

i have the supermix 4 rn, but it hurts my ears so much. Can anyone recommend me a good gaming headset? purely for gaming, not music listening.

[chrome island]

Not really, the Cloud 3 already was pretty great

[chrome island]

I don't know about the G2, but G1 was very overrated and overpriced

[lone flame]

Meh

[wheat seal]

It's G2. I got it for 40% off, it was better than any other option I saw around $100-$120. GadgetryTech seems pretty knowledgeable about audio tech and he recommended it for mid range headsets, so I went with it to see how it is. I didn't really notice any issues with it last night gaming after messing with the EQ a bit. Sounded real nice to me

The mic quality is pretty mid, but I don't really care about that since I have a separate mic

[blissful portal]

I almost got those headphones but decided to get the fio ft1 instead

[lone flame]

FT1 are awesome

[elder thistle]

I think preset-eq wireless versions of normal headsets is going to be the downfall of measurement-based reviews

just putting it out there now

[lone flame]

well

who cares

[elder thistle]

there is a trend these reviewers place a lot of confidence in, that a headphone will be more technical or more true-to-life when it measures well

they take this trend and end up reviewing the same headphone differently

this isn't something that happens to end users

[lone flame]

and noone cares of a review of how someone experienced something

[elder thistle]

the beliefs overstep the results

[lone flame]

bcs who cares what one person thinks

we need a point to start in Audio

FR is good for that

If we have good tuning. its easier to apply preference

and after good tuning we can focus on other stuff

like Design

[elder thistle]

I just hope the people upgrading from the cloud III to the wireless S use their voice

[lone flame]

it sounds completly different

[elder thistle]

that might be true

the 560s and their earpad shenanigans alone already shows how earpad changes can do so much damage

any number of changes could've been made to the wireless S aside from eq

[zenith pawn]

umik-2 is out of the question. It would be over $300 after tariffs and shipping

[elder thistle]

even my aliexpress clone couplers weren't that much, and they came with cal files

[zenith pawn]

do you have any advice for buying measurement mics, I wanna measure sound spectrum mainly but also curious how realistic it is to get a rough decibel reading too

I'm getting the impression that for the most part microphones aren't that expensive even for good quality, is that accurate
Feels different than the headphone market

[sage canyon]

how are the cloud alpha 2 or astro a50? i want a new wireless headset. ( i already got a mic, also yes i have tried iems ( supermix 4) )

[lone flame]

u dont need it anyways

UMIK-1 works for most people anyways

and its WAY cheaper

[lone flame]

A50 gen 5 are a good pair

[sage canyon]

Thanks! i also head someone said the Fractal Scape was good, they are the same price in norway

what one of those do you think is better?

[lone flame]

idk about the scape

seems like they have fast pad wear

and that fcks up the sound

[sage canyon]

yeah

[lone flame]

it has EQ. thats nice, but nah

[sage canyon]

Okay

Thanks!

are they any other ones i should take a look at?

or should i go for the a50

i can always return it if i dont like it

[lone flame]

Audeze Maxwell
A50 Gen5
Cloud III Wireless S if you want it cheaper

[sage canyon]

i dont know why, but i dont like the maxwell

i tried them

but i think the sound is kinda meh for games like warthunder

[lone flame]

when was it

[sage canyon]

not that long ago

[lone flame]

bcs it has a newer firmware that sounds bad

0.63 is the way

[sage canyon]

so

they made a firmware that makes it sound shit?

wtf

meh

il trust gemini

ill try it out

[zenith pawn]

it's not compared to other stuff though

Idk what I want to buy

allegedly you can just get a normal mic and find calibration curves online

[lone flame]

i got UMIK-1

works for home stuff perfectly

and you can get the calibration file from the website after typing in the serial number

if you use REW you just put in the CAL file and it works

no SPL calibration (bcs its already done)

[zenith pawn]

I'd have to see how the cal file works

appears to just be a bunch of dB corrections at every frequency

[digital rose]

I got the crusher anc 2, are they good?

Im hoping so because it was like 240$

The bass on these headphones is amazing jesus christ

[viscid tangle]

Would there be a noticeable difference audibly between the fiio k11 and the fosi sk02? Sk02 comes a lot sooner and is $50 cheaper

They’re not powering anything demanding just hifiman sundaras

About to place the order I think I’ll just do the sk02 highly doubt I’d notice a difference

[indigo zealot]

Rate my setup

[lean grove]

Is it 2018 again?

[lean grove]

The biggest difference imo would be the digital volume knob.

With the sk02 you might notice some channel imbalance at the super high and super low end.

The k11 will not have that problem and will have flawless volume control across the entire volume spectrum.

But otherwise any acoustic differences will be down to how good of a listener you are.

[wintry mirage]

i noticed now i got a good subwoofer music has a whole new depth to it that i just couldnt hear before

just the notes from 20hz - 35hz that were cut off before

just on guitars and other instruments you can hear

[swift cradle]

Hey audio tech

You guys use headphones ever?

My gen 1 Airpod pros are glitching, anyone got recommendations for new earbuds?

[steel escarp]

rate my setup

[wintry mirage]

I need to find where this sounds best and make the box look good now

finally got it all sealed and treated inside but ive done nothing to the outside

very happy with how the build went though its pretty flat down to 24hz which is what i calculated

[broken grotto]

arguably a silly question

[broken grotto]

sure, i recommend these
https://bloomaudio.com/collections/universal-iems/products/noble-audio-kronos

[indigo zealot]

For a split second I thought you were plugged into a VCR

[steel escarp]

lol

[indigo zealot]

But damn, your amp has at least two more tubes than mind, and a hump!

[steel escarp]

the tube thing is a preamp in this setup

could use it as headphone amp if I want to

[indigo zealot]

Yee, that’s the way to go, I cheaped out and bought a unit without the headphone amp stage so it always needs a separate amp

[glad jasper]

What’s a good pair of speakers for desktop?

I want something that matches the ones in my TV or sounds better for them

For games and stuff

[open slate]

Need more info - no idea what your TV sounds like. Do you want stereo? Surround? Subwoofer? How much space do you have? What's your budget? Need Bluetooth?

[glad jasper]

I don’t know what those are or what they sound like
Budget is like £100 and space is fine
Bluetooth not needed

I only know surround sound

I don’t need surround sound

[glad jasper]

Budget is £100 or cheaper

I have cochlear hearing implants too so there’s probably a point where differences stop mattering

(Idk why im saying $ i live in the UK where it’s £)

[lean grove]

Check out the creative pebbles.

£100 is not a lot for speakers, so you're gonna be pretty limited in good options.

[glad jasper]

Okay

[swift cradle]

Lmao

Funny guy

Is there anything better than the Pro gen 3s for a similar price?

[broken grotto]

it depends if you want wired, wireless

if you want wireless, prolly not

[subtle remnant]

if you like what they give you. sure

[warm scarab]

no

you should be asking before buying not after for approval

[broken grotto]

But I need my self affirmation box

[wheat seal]

Yeah those were ones I looked at but my Autism + ADHD combo made me unable to wait for an online order so I wanted to get a headset in person lol. Couldn't find that pair anywhere near me

[dim sun]

what do those lightbulbs do to the audio?

[lean grove]

Make it worse

[subtle remnant]

rave party* smh

[digital rose]

Exactly

[digital rose]

Why?

[lusty sparrow]

My earbuds are uncomfortable since i use them so much, does anyone know the best anc over ear wireless headphones for £50-£80. Ive seen the jbl 770nc, wf720n by sony and souncore q30 however i dont know if these are the best for the price. Any advice would be useful

[lusty sparrow]

Ive also seen the sennheiser hd450 with anc but i cant find much comparison online

[keen cedar]

Is the nothing buds 2 any good

[lusty sparrow]

Amazing but they slip out

Good audio for the price and but the anc is less than others may have

[swift cradle]

Ok

[wispy gate]

if you want sound quality, final audio ux3000. Features are lacking though

Has anyone tried bass shakers like the buttkicker gamer pro or dayton audio BST-300ex? I was looking at them for Sim Racing and I'd love to see LTT cover them if they could..

Willing to donate one temporarily for testing!

[lean grove]

Ltt staff doesn't pay attention to this channel, unfortunately

[wispy gate]

aw, oh well

[blissful portal]

I don’t know what balance is or how to access EQ settings on pc

[wispy gate]

You can use PeaceEQ, its free

[subtle remnant]

peaceEQ for pc. but honestly if ya like the sound what comes outta ya cans or buds who cares dude. enjoy em lol. just dont go around with "hey did i buy the right 'insert tech here' ".

[zenith pawn]

BASED

[steel escarp]

EQ is for betas, you gotta spend 3x the headphone price on dac/amps/tube amps/streamers/power conditioners to make your headphones sound good

[broken grotto]

I don't EQ. I just listen.

is ok

[wispy gate]

You gotta justify your $5000 headphone purchase by arguing online of course, that'll prove your wife wrong!

[steel escarp]

nah they were 3500 second hand

[steel escarp]

I wish I was joking 🫠

[wispy gate]

Me too 😆

[steel escarp]

nahhh u bought the ifi amp

[wispy gate]

2nd hand!

[steel escarp]

how much

[wispy gate]

$2k

almost feel bad for that one

[steel escarp]

eh

well at least u get 15W into 16 ohms if u ever need to blow your head out with IEMs

[wispy gate]

tbh volume 1 is too loud for iems

[steel escarp]

on Ifi products the volume is too loud for anything that is not a high impedance dynamic

someday they will figure out for sure that they don't need excessive gain on the volume knob to make people think their stuff is powerful

surely

[wispy gate]

b-b-but I could use electrostats if I had one

[steel escarp]

oh cool it does do estats

[wispy gate]

tube/estat/regular (still not worth it), xbass at 10hz is pretty cool tho

[steel escarp]

STAX SR-X1 is not that expensive

like 500 bucks

[wispy gate]

oh man don't awaken my demons T.T

I'm into sim racing now, my wallet can't handle it

if I could do it all again, I wouldn't

[steel escarp]

if I could do it all again, I'd have holo bliss + he1000 unveiled + holo cyan 2/chord mojo 2

Susvara is nice, but not my type of sound.

[wispy gate]

same, tried it, disappointing hekse is more fun

[steel escarp]

hekse has too much treble and too little bass for me

[wispy gate]

even on tubes? it can handle a little shelf like 4 db

[steel escarp]

tubes don't make it less bright

unless your tubes are shit and make everything muddy

[wispy gate]

ah yea =/ my favourite was the arya organic, tinnitus in 3 months

[steel escarp]

im still trying to figure out how to make Susvara sound good to crank

holy I just switched off tubes, man the sound stage fullness just went down by like 60%

[wispy gate]

think it's one of those low volume classical ones, ultimate audiophile w.e.

give it a couple years, bluetooth will start to catch up and then it's a whole new addiction

this year is the year of bluetooth not sucking

[steel escarp]

he1000 wifi has already been announced

[wispy gate]

ooh actual wifi, never seen that

outside of gaming stuff

[steel escarp]

it does drain the battery

Wifiman

[wispy gate]

missed opportunity for sure

[steel escarp]

the he1k unveiled is already on sale for 2400 euro

like 600 euro cheaper already

like I am using every bit of constraint that I can to hold back from buying it

[wispy gate]

11/11 sale?

think their spring sale should bring it down to $2k as the market gets flooded with old used models

[broken grotto]

I just remind the husbando that he bought a semi truck, so my headphones aren't too big of a deal.

[broken grotto]

but then he'd probably make the excuse that we can go on road trips and stuff with the truck, but I can't do that with my headphones

[lean grove]

the composer spotted

[wheat moss]

Who tf is using a semi for road trips? Surely that's inefficient af if you're not working

or does he just mean "you can come to work with me and we might stop somewhere"

[lean grove]

murica

[wispy gate]

that's what they're for, put a camper on the back, go offroading, tow a boat

[wheat moss]

no that's what pickups are for

[wispy gate]

I was thinking pickup this whole time

[wheat moss]

you ain't offloading in a semi unless it's for logging or something

[wispy gate]

they're great if you want to 'be' the campsite

😆

[broken grotto]

no, he just enjoys the tractor-trailers. yes, it's very inefficient for road trips, but he put a very nice ARI custom sleeper on it, so it basically becomes our RV.

there's a lot more to that story, but that's the gist of it.

it actually isn't that bad price wise.

[wispy gate]

that's a crazy setup wow

[broken grotto]

that truck was basically his project truck, so he did an in-frame, the sleeper cab, etc all himself.

[wispy gate]

very cool, jealous you have a parking space

[broken grotto]

way cooler than some silly little pickup truck that can barely haul anything anymore

we've taken that truck all the way from the midwest to California, so idk

pretty fun road trip.

sure, you could take a car or SUV or something, but then if you want to do that road trip, you're also paying for hotels, eating out, etc etc and it becomes quite a bit more expensive.

the hotels especially, those can get pretty expensive pretty quick if you want decent ones.

[broken grotto]

fun fact: my husband paid less for the semi truck than he did a pickup that would suit our needs.

also has space for a nice audio setup... try that with your pickup.

[broken grotto]

an entire semi truck's job is offloading.

offroading on the other hand, yeah, you don't normally see semi trucks offroading. they're pretty bad at that.

[broken grotto]

'murika.

either way, the truck has a schiit stack and speakers that I did... so that's a really cool audio thing I did.

not wired into the truck's radio, because I was too lazy, and we never use it

[idle breach]

Hey, I’m looking for good quality headphones that won’t break like this lol. Will be using them mainly for listening to metal/ambient and gaming. Currently I’m looking at either the DT 770 pro or the corsair hs80(in this budget range), any thoughts?

[wispy gate]

Budget?

This is the same price as the DT770 pro, its better in every way but slightly less comfortable ear cups. Great for metal/ambient, good for gaming.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007591206640.html?src=google&pdp_npi=4%40dis!CAD!235.54!211.99!!!!!%40!12000041418910726!ppc!!!&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&gclsrc=aw.ds&&albagn=888888&&ds_e_adid=&ds_e_matchtype=&ds_e_device=m&ds_e_network=x&ds_e_product_group_id=&ds_e_product_id=en1005007591206640&ds_e_product_merchant_id=107779214&ds_e_product_country=CA&ds_e_product_language=en&ds_e_product_channel=online&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_url_v=2&albcp=19215273764&albag=&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17178707511&gbraid=0AAAAACbpRIkn0k7vFgMkGM61CJMJMypWO&gclid=CjwKCAiA8vXIBhAtEiwAf3B-gxKG8dVn8nvxtdoeRL2Bwfa3TNOdYOJdxsxQybcIY6AklMgmk9k1ihoCsowQAvD_BwE

[elder thistle]

is this an ft1 link

this is going to be an ft1 link

ffs

[wispy gate]

Hell yea

For wired closed headphones theres no competition for the price

[elder thistle]

it is difficult to restrain myself from the hatred I have for measurement-fi and how it's used against newcomers

[wispy gate]

Beyers are pretty harsh on the high hats and snares, wouldnt use them for metal

[elder thistle]

you are allowed to enjoy the ft1, obviously

[wispy gate]

I mean, im not goijg off measurements they just sound worse

Tried both

[elder thistle]

but it's not at all a safe recommendation and I'd argue it makes less sense based on it's capabilities

[wispy gate]

Whats a safe rec?

For closed headphones in this price range

For metal

[elder thistle]

it isn't easy to weigh these headphones fairly without spending a long time listening to each one, using varying music/games, and having an existing methodology that's worked well for comparing one headphone to another

[wispy gate]

Yea yea idc whats the rec

[elder thistle]

none. someone should keep the headphones they have granted the criteria you laid out

[wispy gate]

Lmfao ok, keep the broken headphones

[elder thistle]

it would be foolish to spend that money without considering what they want to accomplish and what they might enjoy

[wispy gate]

I did, the answer is fiio ft1

[elder thistle]

epoxy is a lot cheaper than a mistake

[wispy gate]

Cant give a rec, tells them just to glue their old headphones together

Great help

[elder thistle]

it's what I wish I was told myself back when I chewed through different studio headphones not finding something that worked

the path forwards here is more clarification on what he wants or needs the headphones to do

without that, really no point

.

at any rate, here's why I don't like the ft1 for metal and ambient music, nor games like cs2 or fortnite and especially not apex or r6s

the ft1 is a dynamically sterile headphone. sounds regardless of actual volume appear to be pushed frontwards. everything is aggressive and you can't get a break from the felt volume of most sounds. at the same time, things like kicks and snares lack punch and impact that a headphone like an hd600 would provide. the former makes ambient music more aggressive than it's supposed to be, and the latter hurts the realism and excitement of drums and vocals

the ft1 also reduces the volume of the quietest sounds, making them hidden in the audio of some games. this lets people easily get the first shots on you in apex and r6s. more universally, the imaging from the ft1 is more diffuse around the ear like many planars are, making imaging more inconsistent and confusing in most games. I've fallen under a lot of nearly random reversals with a lot of confidence it was the right direction. not as much as an he400se or edition xs though

if I were to complete his use case with my imagination, I would rather rock the dt770 for functional and preferential reasons

we don't know his preferences

I don't mean tone (but that too I guess)

[broken grotto]

I think what's sorta funny is anything you recommend someone will hate

So there is little reason to recommend anymore.

[elder thistle]

I assume that by "you" you mean anyone trying to make a recommendation

yes, it's always a roll of the dice

but we can still take steps to reduce the risk of getting a less relevant product

and a big step that needs to be taken is stopping the use of tier lists and "safe" recommendations

they are inherently random

[terse river]

can i get a second opinion on hd600s vs hd6xxds

online i see that most favor the hd6xxs

but i have an audio friend who swears by the hd600s over hd650s hg6xxs and something else

[lean grove]

They're close enough. There are people that really like the hd600s line and will put in a lot of effort to find specific versions with minor revisions.

It's like. 95% the same headphone for significantly cheaper.

[elder thistle]

almost within margin of error. my hd600 is an early gray chassis model from 2020. 6xx seems to scoop the lower and mid treble more

but sound-wise they're super similar, not different enough for me to confidently point to any differences

this may have changed given the constant revisions the 600 is seeing

I guess I prefer the hd600 since they're already pretty weak at 6k on my ears, and that's only worse on the 6xx

[willow prairie]

Should i buy artics nova 5 pro?

im looking for a headset, cause mine recently broke

[broken grotto]

Yeah, not you specifically lol

Just in general

[livid ruin]

Same thing

6xx is cheaper

Neither one of them is objectively better or worse in terms of sound as they tend to measure within margin of error

or unit variation

[warm scarab]

you mean 650

600 is a bit different

[wispy gate]

amazing how many words someone can type and say nothing at all

[idle breach]

130euros is the max budget

Thanks for the recommendations guys

[wispy gate]

ok 2nd rec is the hyper x cloud 3 s, more gaming oriented. Has a microphone, EQ to change the sound, wireless

if you go open back theres a lot of options, for closed headphones there's really not a lot

[idle breach]

I just want to buy something good because I've been used to shit quality 30$ headphones

[wispy gate]

I feel that, the first one I recommended has more bass than most 'audiophile' headphones so it's more accessible to most people, it's a fun one

the hyper x 3 can be tuned to your liking as well so it's not gonna sound like 'where did all the bass go'

neither needs a dac or amp, just plug and play, no hidden costs

[idle breach]

Yeah that's also a factor

the hyper xs are priced nicely

strange that the red ones cost 27 euros less than the fully black ones though

[wispy gate]

inventory issue perhaps?

is it the hyper x 3 S wireless

might be a non- S version

[idle breach]

it's the S version

the non S are much cheaper like 40euros less than the red ones

[wintry mirage]

will putting some material under my subwoofer make any difference to the fact it vibrates the shit out of my floor

and causes the downstairs ceiling to flex

i have some random foam i found

[wispy gate]

yes

you want something dense, try mass loaded vinyl

or like, rubber gym mat squares

can also add adhesive feet from amazon

also you may want a new ceiling

[warm scarab]

lmao

[warm silo]

my audeze cans are arriving today

time to smell my first two pairs of planars

[terse river]

Is there a difference in like non -sound qualities between the 600s and 6xxs like in comfort or something?

[wispy gate]

different colour, hd6xx has softer, shallower pads but they don't last as long (it honestly doesn't matter they're both super comfortable if you can handle the clamp force)

[wintry mirage]

its only at 24hz and lower

ill try to find a proper solution but this foam works a bit for now i think

[wispy gate]

im using these, they work really well, bit small tho so I cut them into 4 pieces and put them under the legs

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CNGJR8JR?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

[wintry mirage]

id just need one 5x bigger

66cm long and 41cm wide

and that can support 90kg

[lean grove]

Tennis balls

Get four, put them on each corner

Or stress balls

[wintry mirage]

thanks

[wispy gate]

this one is better than my previous link actually. Heavy AF

https://www.amazon.ca/TroyStudio-Insulation-Vibration-Deadening-Soundproofing/dp/B0C8MBB93J/ref=sr_1_5?crid=LLX9WGO5EIVY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WnuZFrA80-8wWulO6yjMDTRQljGmZOHntBspSryTIFBnKFxyBKyxJDEUg0djD_djbpp5iwzvRR0M1or4OYzWH0LRRRWpFErEgLb0qeUw8syfMLJEe2iWRzByB1TOQIr-pRZTBhO82bu7YDcnpsa88QZ38cT-zB6LO6noHu7gdKyrgLcCnFz5g3_w-6t5eRLdXXDjU3SaIwC0PQYZGMe9YYG97w41tf7E2P-y-liyeEmPGxANf5HXi1WCVYKx6fZNgCKRq3Pxgm9CTBYYALXPQq_ozn3YswQQw6JLrc_AUzo.TSwOfE_1tT8oHAyqa_-4WcUWBTnO4EtolBkuKMm73MU&dib_tag=se&keywords=mass%2Bloaded%2Bvinyl&qid=1763662249&sprefix=mass%2Bloaded%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-5&th=1

[compact kernel]

I have an issue with my laptop audio it kinda funny every time there is an S it spelled like Th whether it's in discord vc or in games it happens in both headset and laptop audio output

[fair pawn]

which ones you bought?

[warm silo]

2s and gx

[lean grove]

That's thertifiably wacky

[broken grotto]

I just got the LCDS20 and I like them

[warm silo]

I will say the gx is a bit underwhelming

The lcd2 is a bit more of an experience

That said the gx is more enjoyable for high energy music

[broken grotto]

I don't use the GX that often anymore

I have LCD-2 closed backs too

but mostly use the LCDS20 now lol

[fair pawn]

LCD-2 is like Audeze’s Classic

I love to use it for and Jazz/Guitar related genre

[keen cedar]

Is the Philips TAT6000BK/00 good

Found them on sale for 55 bucks

[wispy gate]

oh sup I remember you!

[willow prairie]

cool!

[steel escarp]

I would a 100% get a capra audio comfort strap for any audeze

[fair pawn]

[terse river]

God that’s sexy

[wispy gate]

hope you're doin well dude, I had to leave the other group, too much temptation to buy more gear!

[supple sand]

Soo

Whats the best sounding wireless headphones for under 200

I want smth bassy but still can be clean

N sounds loud n doesnt makr me wish it was louder

N preferably smth with a bigger earcup cuz i had the Crusher anc 2s n theirs were too small to a point that they started hurting my ears only after 25-30 mins of using them

I was thinking of the momentum 4s myself so any other reccomendations and whatd yall think about the momentum 4s

[wispy gate]

200 usd?

if you have a best buy in your area, they are pretty good with having demo models open

the 4s have smaller ear cups, they might be uncomfortable, very shallow

[fair pawn]

Haha Ofc lol I’m going broke too lol