audio-tech

[strange walrus]

In also seeing a brand called Cyber Acoustics alot around my price point, are they any good

[steel escarp]

they just don't create any sound above 15kHz

lol

if you can hunt down anything with the brand iloud on it second hand

then you got yourself something really nice for cheap

[strange walrus]

Sorry im asking alot i only really know headphones with audio and even then its just who has a good rep and who doesn't because after shopping around a bit for like 4ish I just went back to Skullcandy because I grew up with them and I've always liked them and sure enough they were just as good as I remembered

[strange walrus]

Whats that number for again i cant remember

[steel escarp]

a frequency

its a pretty high frequency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r6fzAa9ylU

do not listen too loud or long to this

[strange walrus]

Also im paying rent out of my grandparents basement so even if i wanted to i cant buy anything good because i wont be able to activate use a quarter of what it can do

[steel escarp]

are you gonna use it for gaming?

[night plume]

Needed a replacement FiiO myself

[strange walrus]

Mainly gaming but if I listen to music on my computer I want it to have bass that atleast kicks

Again i use Skullcandy crushers i like to feel the bass, but im not living in my owm place so i can't go crazy

[steel escarp]

because if not, something like a JBL Go 4 which is a single bluetooth speaker probably is gonna sound better than any other desktop speaker you can get. but you cannot hear direction from it since its just one speaker

[strange walrus]

It has to stay light

[night plume]

Issues with onboard mb audeo+front panel audio and the FiiO gives me a wider soundstage and uncompressed the audio so it sounds more full

[strange walrus]

Yeah I was thinking of just buying something blue tooth from Skullcandy but I don't want to have to charge my speakers for my PC it's the same reason I refuse to buy wireless headphones

[night plume]

At least with my audio technica ath-m50x they do

[strange walrus]

I was looking at these for a bit but they seem like again nonames https://a.co/d/bzbITtQ

[steel escarp]

they only go down to 80Hz

are you from the USA? or somewhere else? @strange walrus

[strange walrus]

Us

[night plume]

Go for the edifiers in your price range it sounds like

[warm scarab]

edifier mr4

[warm scarab]

lmao dont get skullcandies

[strange walrus]

Sorry but no, i like them and thats all i care about with dailys. I know they arnt the best but idc

Its the 1 brand in audio that i have consistently felt like I got what I paid for that worked and didn't feel like shit, and i like how they sound

When thats changes i will look elsewhere

[warm scarab]

if you know better than others dont seek advice here

[strange walrus]

.... Okay so admitting there are better headphones than what i get is saying I know better than everyone here? Wtf

[warm scarab]

you are right its even more odd in your case

you acknowledge there is better but choose to buy worse

if worse is what you prefer, we can't quite help you out

to rephrase, we can recommend you good but if good isn't what you want then we can't recommend you much

[strange walrus]

Okay soooo just dont ask for help, good advice mate. Also i asked for speaker help not headphones help i wouldn't be here if i needed headphones because i already would have a answer, but next time i want a bike and only have knowledge for engines and shit for cars i just wont ask someone who knows about both for help with the 1.

[warm scarab]

well if you need help not to find the best item for your budget but instead to narrow down a list with qualifiers in your head that we don't know

we cannot help you

[strange walrus]

I asked for recommendations to look into what i want but can't have recommendations if u dont buy want you want me to

[strange walrus]

Lol i said my list, you didnt read anything you just jumped in mid conservative

[warm scarab]

it was a methaphor not a literal list

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[strange walrus]

you're meaning of recommendations for looking into stuff to buy is the same as someone asking you to tell them what to buy. I literally found a pair of speakers based off your recommendation of edifier mr4, they arnt mr4 but they are edifier, but since im not buying what you said im not taking recommendations.... I didn't ask what i should buy i asked for brands to look into what to buy you didnt read. Also i gave a literal list there is no metaphor here whatever fuck off you're a prick

[warm scarab]

lmao

[steel escarp]

honestly

not that bad

[warm scarab]

its pretty good

[steel escarp]

it seems you can turn the treble down too

[warm scarab]

not many bookshelves you can buy for 150 with falloff at 70hz

[steel escarp]

yeah exactly

[livid ruin]

you can buy them in eu for €90 incl. taxes

[warm scarab]

wtf where from

[steel escarp]

I can find them for 95 EUR here locally

[strange walrus]

Whats the qr30s like

[livid ruin]

many retails from czech, slovakia and germany

[steel escarp]

this one is way better

[strange walrus]

Damm

[steel escarp]

you just need to turn the treble volume control down to -6 on the back

[livid ruin]

@warm scarab go for as low as €80

[warm scarab]

god dang

over stock or something

whats going on

[livid ruin]

mass production ftw

[warm scarab]

i love child labor

[steel escarp]

its just that the chassis has a resonance around 600Hz

can be fixed with EQ, but I dont think the guy is going to do that

[strange walrus]

What is this website

[lean grove]

Just point it away from you

[steel escarp]

https://www.spinorama.org/

[livid ruin]

lowest price in histoy has been €75 🤣

[steel escarp]

Edifier MR3BT seems way better @warm scarab

I found them for 120

[strange walrus]

Nah fuck your link. I don't think the guy is going to do that, im sorry I'm simple and easy to please maybe you lot should get off your damn high horse, you cant help someone without sticking your nose up at them.

[warm scarab]

lmao what

[steel escarp]

what

[warm scarab]

actually hilarious

[steel escarp]

why are you mad? because I linked a website with a measurement database?

huh

[warm scarab]

you are a fool grey

you shouldn't have provided the website when asked for the website

[steel escarp]

did I miss something?

[warm scarab]

oldest trick in the book

[strange walrus]

Im mad because of this, you people are legit incapable of offering advice and help without acting all high and mighty and superior

[livid ruin]

these cost morr and r less available :c

[warm scarab]

what is actually going on lmfao

[steel escarp]

which part exactly made you think we were patronizing you

[livid ruin]

beyerdeafener

[warm scarab]

this is the best crashout ive seen

grey didn't even do anything that wasn't asked of him lmao

[strange walrus]

acting like you know me and what im gonna do

[steel escarp]

huh????

[warm scarab]

🤣

[buoyant vale]

[warm scarab]

stop it grey

you are so insensitive

[steel escarp]

should I like ping a mod or something? this guy is crashing out under 0 pressure.

[livid ruin]

klaus cannot be wrong that’s a rule

[livid ruin]

he’s jokin

[warm scarab]

yeah we already ruled out grey being correct

sorry grey

[warm scarab]

I uh don't think he is

i think this was a legitimate crashout

[livid ruin]

i will have meltdown from laughter this is hilarous

[warm scarab]

he did block me like 10 minutes ago

[steel escarp]

ah I just saw this message, I was too busy trying to find something good to recommend

hadn't looked in here for a few minutes

[livid ruin]

fr fr

[warm scarab]

was talking to me not you lol

[steel escarp]

@strange walrus hey man, reading back chat, you seem to have gotten into a discussion with klaus about him criticising your headphones. I had nothing to do with that. I just genuenly wanted to recommend some good speakers to you.

[zenith pawn]

not to be the "erm acktually" guy but in this case the ohms is talking about the impedance, not resistance, so that might change things a bit if youre trying to research further

[livid ruin]

i don now what is going on is this not all you guys messing around?

five question marks ?????

[zenith pawn]

And it's only given at a specific frequency usually 1k. AFAIK impedance is neither constant nor linear for headphones

[warm scarab]

no we arent messing around

[zenith pawn]

I think there's graphs online and you can calculate the output volume from sensitivity and impedance curve if you know enough electrical

[livid ruin]

0% joke right

[warm scarab]

im just making fun of grey

thats about it

but everyone else is serious

[livid ruin]

klaus my brain is getting rotted from whatever i’m reading here
whar did grey do wong

i’m missing da point too

the source? cherrypicking? idk

[warm scarab]

nothing that is why we are making fun of the situation

[livid ruin]

grrrrr ragebaiter

i definitely mean this seriously -100% for sure

[steel escarp]

My new vacuum tubes are arriving tomorrow

got some gold plated Siemens E88CC from the 70s

I only paid 130 for them 😭

[warm scarab]

no like, grey precisely did nothing and was responded with a crashout, that is why we are making fun of the situation

it was just really absurd

[livid ruin]

yeah, just making sure

you gave me a blood pressure increase when you said “we arent messing around”
made me thimk i misjudged the situation

explode for lying to me klaus

[steel escarp]

holy shit I found more tubes nearby

some Telefunken

already got Mullards coming my way

[warm scarab]

i dont understand the misunderstanding

grey helps some dude

dude has random crashout

and we make fun of it

😭

[lean grove]

Idk. Grey suggested that someone might not be willing EQ which is going too far, even by my standards.

That's a heavy accusation.

[humble willow]

Bump

Someone suggested letshuoer S12s a while back, they're on sale rn(149usd 99usd) but still smth i can't afford :/

[lean grove]

@humble willow take a look at the moondrop space travel 2's

Oh wait I misread

You said wired

And yeah there's tons of decent wired iems for less than 100 euros

Take a look at the truth ear gate

[humble willow]

How are they only 25 usd?
Ik its not what i asked but they seem high quality

[lean grove]

Because iems are cheap to manufacture

And cheaper to engineer

[stuck bolt]

I got a passive monitor controller for my desk

[humble willow]

Are there like big downsides to wireless iems compared to earbuds?

Besides no bass from what i understand but i care less and less about that now

[lean grove]

Biggest one would be latency. So unless youre using aptxLL or aptx adaptive it's gonna be horrible to game with.

[lean grove]

And idk where you heard that because there are plenty of wireless iems with tons of bass

See: raycons

[humble willow]

I mean all i use them for rn is lisening to music so i doubt it'll be a big issue

[lean grove]

Yeah that's a non-issue then.

[humble willow]

From a friend who knows about as much as i do :P

They exist and thats about it

Maybe they confused iems with smth else but idk

Anyway, tysm

[humble willow]

Actually one more thing
What makes the expensive iems expensive?

[lean grove]

Good question. Not sure. Generally they're more complex or made by smaller boutique manufacturers.

One of the most expensive iems has like a ton of exotic drivers in them.

[livid ruin]

ah, thanks

[lean grove]

I'm not a huge fan of iems, so that question is better answered by a different person. Maybe check out the crinacle or headphones.com discord server

[humble willow]

Oh, i thought maybe theres a difference in audio quality or smth like that

[humble willow]

Can't hurt, tysm

[lean grove]

Depends who you ask. I don't see much value in spending more than $200 for them

[humble willow]

I got the answer "they sound different" idk what i expected but it wasn't less

But yeah, ig
Im not big on audio so i don't see a point in spending more than 100€ but to each their own

[night plume]

grumbles I may just bite the bullet on these https://www.amazon.com/ADAM-Audio-Desktop-Monitoring-Connection/dp/B0DG9Z58CV

and I will have new speakers on Saturday

[lean grove]

Let us know how they sound

[warm scarab]

why would you bite a bullet dude wtf go see a dentist

[night plume]

facepalms Its an expression

[warm scarab]

express to the dentist you arent ok

[broken grotto]

like with headphones, there's diminishing returns

lots of the time the really expensive ones are almost jewelry

other times they have fancy drivers or exotic materials

I will say, you don't need to buy those. I bought the Meze Advar because I think they're gorgeous, but there's IEM's that sound just as (if not better,) for like, 1/10th the price those were.

no regerts because I like them tho

[zenith pawn]

my iem pick is currently the truthear zero red. Never tried the gate but I might consider it with the price

if it's at least as good as the 7hz zero:2 then I should be pretty happy

[broken grotto]

the ones I love the most are probably my SeeAudio Yume

[zenith pawn]

I need to inherit a large audio hardware collection

[broken grotto]

I will say that mangird tea pro are magical tho

[urban surge]

Old but still kicking. God bless Boston

[warm scarab]

its kicking

kicking a dead horse alright

[zenith pawn]

damn i was expecting to hear "More than a feeling"...

[stuck bolt]

Are those the speakers that can hear your phone calls before they come in

[urban surge]

It sounds alot better in person. My phone mic don't do it justice... and I picked a bass boosted song 😭

[warm scarab]

lol fair

[urban surge]

I gotchu bro

[stuck bolt]

Don't mind me, I was having a moment

[zenith pawn]

it sounds quite bassy

even more than my car

[stuck bolt]

https://a.co/d/dteRgDE

Actually a really good price rn

[urban surge]

It's pretty bassy. Especially for it being around 10-20+ years old

[lone flame]

aren't that midfield monitors?

[stuck bolt]

Yes

[stuck bolt]

You can always turn a big speaker down, but can't turn a small speaker up louder than it could

[livid ruin]

got a unit of hd560s for $100 ^ ^ though why did i buy them when i don like the new pads hmmm idk

[stuck bolt]

[livid ruin]

Lol i received the 3m version

the old one for $100

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

for some reason i thought it was the 1.8m ver.

[molten wing]

Does anyone know a Bluetooth speaker that is under/around $150, does not turn off automatically, still works while plugged in if it's battery powered, and is very very loud?

[livid ruin]

@warm scarab https://youtu.be/6XrOWO1-niM how much truth does this man say rate -10 to 10

[warm scarab]

nouvraught is ill

[lean grove]

He's a famous rage baiter.

[lone flame]

Seems like the the DT 990 Pro Treble made his hair fall out...
Also why this Stereo mic setup

Bro made a target that is just meant for DT 990s.... thats just bad

[zenith pawn]

stereo mic setup is shit I would try to do

is that an A-B omnidirectional pair

[lone flame]

he does ASMR....

[zenith pawn]

dumb

you gotta get one of those models if you're serious about aamr

[lone flame]

his target is pure borderline dogshit..

idk wtf this shit is based on

[lean grove]

It's based on getting guys like you to engage with his content

[lone flame]

yeah probably

[broken grotto]

I didn't even have to watch the video to know it's not worth the time

[primal fulcrum]

Koss The Plug™ is the most gigachad design of in-ears.

[green marsh]

-1000

[kind hawk]

Do i need a dac amp for HD6xx with this interface

[lone flame]

6i6?

[kind hawk]

18i16

[lone flame]

4th gen?

[kind hawk]

Yes

[lone flame]

should work

but keep in mind

You should plug in Headphones that have atleast 88 Ohm

because the Output Impedance is pretty high (11 Ohm)

[main spoke]

need headphones for my desktop, wired or wifi (bluetooth not prefered cus ive noticed bad latency in past) budget of £80ish maybe, need to be availible in the UK
thoights on this?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/357649412189

[stuck bolt]

They're not bad tbh.

[warm scarab]

why is it so high wtf

[warm scarab]

its bluetooth which you said you don't want

[lone flame]

the 2i2 4th gen has 50 Ohm at the Output xD

[lean grove]

How does your 6xx sound with that interface

[main spoke]

it does wired aswel

i like wired

[green marsh]

seems to be a tertiary concern on audio interfaces

even beyerdynamics one is like 40ohm zout

[lone flame]

it shouldn't really sound different

[lean grove]

My goal is to have this person listen to it and realize that if it's sounds fine, its probably okay.

So by me asking this question, they learn how to listen and don't feel compelled to come in here whenever they have a simple question and can just listen and make that call for themselves.

[primal fulcrum]

Sony WH-1000XM3 have a 3,5mm jack, is it just for Audio or microphone as well?

think it's either the cable included does not transfer mic or the jack does not support it

hmm

[green marsh]

well is the cable 4 pole or 3 pole

[strange walrus]

Hey whats that company that makes modern Android mp3 players and i think dacs, filo flio or something

I cant remember how it's spelled

[floral void]

Idk I've just downloaded some Samsung music app off the google play store and it works great. No ads either. I use it all the time 💀 lowk addicted to music

[broken grotto]

FiiO.

[strange walrus]

Thanks

[strange walrus]

No I was looking into something else I think they make but I just couldn't remember their name and figured they are probably best know for the things listed

[floral void]

Oh okay 😅

[strange walrus]

If i where to get a mp3 i would 1st off need a fuck ton of money to buy all my songs and 2nd off have a good excuse like taking it somewhere with low service and not wanting to use my phone battery as much

Even then my grandpa got a old ipod classic i would break out of its box and mod

[broken grotto]

my most beloved feature of those DAP's is being able to use them as USB-C dac/amp wherever.

phone, laptop, whatever

there's a few good reasons to use them, but ultimately if you're just looking to have a thing that makes noises, then probably better off with a phone

The fun part about buying the FLACs on like, qubouz and what not, is that slowly but surely you amass a collection.

if you get crafty, you can even buy CD's and stuff at estate sales/antique stores.

[lofty flint]

does dedicated dongle solve the mono audio issue for wireless headset when using mic

[eternal lance]

Are razer black shar good for 270€

[elder thistle]

that is a lot of money

still has a good chance of imaging more precisely and reliably than maxwell

no idea for sure, haven't used a fully kitted out blackshark v2 or v3

and no maxwell, just other planars

this was not a value assessment

[warm scarab]

how does it cost so much jesus

[elder thistle]

there's more

[wheat moss]

Razer greed

[broken grotto]

Are the maxwells no good?

[sleek lily]

10% off

[smoky terrace]

Just got the pro 3s

Still no idea what linus is on about

I guess that maybe cymbals and hi hats sound a little worse? Almost lower quality? But i seriously can barely tell a difference between them and my pro 2s trying to swap back and forth

[elder thistle]

what did you expect

also why is linus using thick earpads on an m50x

this is a capitol offense

I call this one the orfice

he has reinvented the bandstop filter

[steel escarp]

idk why people are still recommending DT880 in 2025

[smoky terrace]

what do you reccommend then

[steel escarp]

sennheiser hd560s

[unique wind]

audeze maxwells are great

excellent audio performance for a wireless gaming headset

the main drawback is that theyre heavy

[steel escarp]

michael

[unique wind]

mr grey

[steel escarp]

have you wore the audeze maxwell on your head for longer than 5 minutes

[unique wind]

no

[steel escarp]

they are heavy

I got baited into buying them from the headphones.com hypetrain

they are not good 💀

its one of the least detailed planars I ever heard

[unique wind]

they are objectively good but yes quite heavy

ive been looking at the aeon noire X and XO lately because theyre so gah damn pretty

[steel escarp]

nah the treble sounds like it has a massive 4kHz scoop

[unique wind]

uggggggg

why do they have to be so pretty

i must stop looking at $1300 headphones, i dont even like headphones

[steel escarp]

all the high end DCA headphones sound shrill

the stealth and the expanse

[unique wind]

ive never tried any DCA headphones

[steel escarp]

the Noire X and XO are both hella sibilant above 10kHz

I tried them all

[unique wind]

ive still never gone to any audio shows so ive only tried what ive bought

[steel escarp]

the Noire XO despite being open, isn't actually that open

I need some Sennheiser HD800s with the DMS 6kHz peak mod and a capra strap

[unique wind]

isnt that true of all DCA headphones

at least in comparison to Hifimans which are completely open

kind of a hard standard to live up to

[steel escarp]

the flow dca aeon 2 open was pretty open (old model from 2020)

tho its tuning left much to be desired

man, I wish I was still new to audio and buying a Hifiman HE600 actually would still make sense

just finished up soldering a cable so I can plug my dt880 into my feliks audio vibe tube amp, that I had only been using as preamp until now

now I can confidently say that yes even with a tube amp, you still get murder treble

[smoky terrace]

i am currently undecided between some model of astro a 50, those or the fractal scape

i would stay wired but my new setup requires wireless since i will be moving between a couch and a standing desk

[broken grotto]

I didn't get to use them because im waiting on an RMA

The usb thing on mine was DoA.

I generally like Audeze. I have the LCD2, LCD-GX, and the LCD-S20.

The weight of them dont bother me much.

[warm scarab]

weight thing is such a cope

weak ass necks

[broken grotto]

Fr fr

Its a little sad that my maxwells' had a defect when theyre new, but is ok

Someday ill get a replacement lol

I think they did improve on the headband a bit with the new design

The LCD-S20 has a similar thing to Maxwell

Maybe its a little more comfortable than the old one.

[zinc rain]

fellas how do we feel about Klipsch R-41M's. Heard they're decent for the money but lack low end. I'm looking for a speaker setup for my desktop and need some around that size to comfortably fit on my desk, and maybe add a sub later.

[terse river]

Don’t buy from klipsch

[zinc rain]

hmmm why

cool.

[terse river]

Too expensive and too bad

Much better prices for better items can be found, especially if buying second hand

[zinc rain]

Looking to probably buy new out of convenience tbh

Goal is preferably <500ish USD for speakers + interface/amp or whatever

I just also have odd space constraints lol

[lean grove]

bad for desktop.

[terse river]

Yeah it’s hard to do bookshelves well for desktop

[zinc rain]

I was looking at JBL 305p MKii's

[lean grove]

https://vanatoo.com/shop/speakers/transparent-zero-plus/
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/iloudmm/
https://www.adam-audio.com/en/desktop/d3v/

[zinc rain]

but they're large enough that I could fit them on my desk, but probably not tilt them to my seating position very well

[lean grove]

also good. they're just kinda chunky and use special connectors so its gonna be a little bit more work than plug and play

[terse river]

Bookshelves are huge and you need a lot of space to fit them well, my desk currently is a bit too small for mine. To have them comfortably you need a desk at least 7 ft wide

[zinc rain]

my desk is like 6.5ft wide

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[terse river]

Fr

[zinc rain]

The problem is uhhh

my monitor setup

[terse river]

The only way to have good speakers wi the multiple monitor is to stack vertically or just buy purpose built desktop speakers

Yeah that just makes it hard to have nice speakers

[green marsh]

vertical stack gang

[terse river]

I designed my setup around the speakers as you can see lol

[zinc rain]

The pc can be offset to a nearby dresser if I just got a longer DisplayPort cable so that’s not much of an issue

I did the math, I would have roughly 8.25” on each side once I moved my PC and put my displays in the direct center

[warm scarab]

same but other way around

[terse river]

That’s not enough for bookshelf

[warm scarab]

because i have huge speakers i cant get 3 monitors lol

[zinc rain]

Vertical stacked monitors aren’t an option for my as that white part of the wall in that pic is sloped

[warm scarab]

vertical is awful

neck hurt

[green marsh]

skill issue

just lean back in your chair

[zinc rain]

but yeah I just want to have a nice audio setup and not have to use headphones all the time

[warm scarab]

i am not a chair believer

dont have those

[zinc rain]

My HD560S’ are nice but they’re physically fatiguing after a few hours lol

I’ve been getting by with the TV speakers but they ain’t great

[warm scarab]

sorry id help you but you are michaels friend

[terse river]

With your current monitor setup, idk how. You could change it however so you have your main, and then two monitors landscape on top, making a T shape. Then with the space under those monitors you can put speakers. (At least that’s my current upgrade path if I wanna get 3 monitors)

[zinc rain]

like I said, vertical stacking isnt really an option because of the sloped roof

I have like 11 inches of clearance above the TV to the part of the sloped roof

[warm scarab]

clearance is clearance

[green marsh]

well your top monitor should be tilted down

[zinc rain]

side monitors are 14.5 inches tall

[green marsh]

which should provide some extra clearance

[warm scarab]

what ashuran said

[zinc rain]

3.5 inches of tilt would be a terrible viewing angle ngl

[terse river]

Theoretically maybe you could put some horizontal bookshelves above your main, but that would be weird and you’d get some funky interference

[warm scarab]

how do you measure tilt with inches

physics breakthrough

[green marsh]

mount it to the sloped wall 😈

[zinc rain]

ok so like i get what you're saying

but what im saying is i would have to tilt them down 3.5 inches to clear

wait am i drunk

[terse river]

Yes

[zinc rain]

i might be stupid LMAO

[warm scarab]

lmao

[green marsh]

LMAO

[warm scarab]

tylenol

[zinc rain]

fr fr

[green marsh]

i be profen

[zinc rain]

idk I just want funny overkill setup

[terse river]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/694598257967628315/1107931142469976134/giphy-1-2.gif

[warm scarab]

ok sure

uh

get creative pebbles or something ig

or spend like 500$ on a soundbar

[zinc rain]

I wouldnt consider myself an audiophile but I like accurate audio

I paid like an extra 3k for my car for the bose system lmao

[warm scarab]

you could put a speaker above the computer on the left but i dont see the right side

[zinc rain]

pc will be moved

[warm scarab]

what was your budget again?

[terse river]

Don’t buy these they’re bad, but theoretically you could put something like this above your monitors currently

[sleek lily]

I love Arduino

[warm scarab]

i HATE arduino

[sleek lily]

Literally a cheat code to projects

[terse river]

Idk how weird it would sound for the speakers to be above you

But it’s a possibility ig

[warm scarab]

could put them upside down for the tweeter alignment

[zinc rain]

not sure how i'd mount em. Dont really want to wall mount

[warm scarab]

cant you use the desk

[terse river]

There’s speakers stands

[warm scarab]

see if edifier mr4 fit on your desk

get measurements

[zinc rain]

I could just get some floor stands and have them on each side of the desk

[terse river]

https://a.co/d/cHwe6cP

[sleek lily]

Made a little system that would read the code from a remote then use that to control a relay that stops or allows power to my motor. I'm going to use that system in a little cat feeder I'm designing

[terse river]

Ok well that’s too tall, but you get the idea

[sleek lily]

But it's also going to take signal from some water level readers for protections

So it doesn't run it's pump dry, and so it doesn't overfill the bowl

[zinc rain]

seems like they could reasonably fit

[green marsh]

cant you just use float switches

[warm scarab]

there we go

[sleek lily]

The relay works well here because it's robust and I only need an ok or off state, and I don't need fast switching

[warm scarab]

just pay indians to press the buttons for you

[sleek lily]

I could use a lot of options

But relay is perfect for this application

[warm scarab]

i relay deez nuts to your mom

https://www.ebay.com/itm/183921570548

someone buy me please

[zinc rain]

if you had to put it in headphones terms, how good are these?

[green marsh]

💀

[warm scarab]

way better than your hd560s

[zinc rain]

word

[warm scarab]

speakers are just better unfortunately

[zinc rain]

what interface would u use w em

[terse river]

They are powered, you don’t need an amp

[green marsh]

anything that has rca outs or quarter inch outs

[warm scarab]

aa

apple

gongle

[terse river]

gongle

[zinc rain]

[zinc rain]

what if ya boy wants a sub later tho

[green marsh]

ya boy can just buy a powered sub

[warm scarab]

you get a sub with a passthrough

and any decent one will be like that anyways

probably

[zinc rain]

word

are balanced cables a meme or

[green marsh]

meme

[zinc rain]

k

so all i'd need for em is speaker wire to connect them, and then RCA to aux to my mobo?

[warm scarab]

its for studio applications with a fuck ton of interference

[warm scarab]

those might come with it

speaker wire i am pretty sure does

rca to 3.5 idk

[zinc rain]

It does include RCA to 3.5 but doesnt list the length lol. Probably will have to buy one

[green marsh]

just buy a 3.5 extension cable

[zinc rain]

You're right. I have one already lol. Thanks.

https://tenor.com/view/save-dat-money-save-money-little-dicky-gif-26632829

[zinc rain]

sidenote whats a good price for these?

[warm scarab]

i heard them go for like 90€ which is pretty crazy

but id say the normal price is about 130$

[zinc rain]

they're $189 USD on amazon

[warm scarab]

thats kinda much

how much is a pair of jbl 305

[zinc rain]

like $400 almost

[warm scarab]

i mean

you dont seem like you'll be getting a better deal

so idk may as well take the hit lol

wait one sec

let me check

[zinc rain]

I need an interface with those no? also desk space concerns again lol

[warm scarab]

no

you dont need an interface

these are actives

[warm scarab]

check MR3BT

[zinc rain]

$149 for black

129 for white lol

[warm scarab]

those are also good

feel free to go for them

may be even better than mr4

if we are to trust graphs

[zinc rain]

Wait these are MR3

not MR3BT

[warm scarab]

its fine

same thing

one is bluetooth one isnt

90% sure

[zinc rain]

deciding on this stuff hurts my head lol

[night plume]

Hmm these Adam DV3's seem to be having volume issues

[zinc rain]

Ordered the MR3's

[night plume]

Basically it isn't a consistent volume while rising the volume

[urban surge]

Welp got the other speaker workin. Now we got a 3 speaker setup that sounds pretty good based off its age

[urban surge]

Better demonstration of the bass

[stone quartz]

Those remind me of some old Cambridge Soundworks speakers I had

Those were garbage, though.

[warm scarab]

what is that wheelbase

it has the center of g27, half of the buttons and rim of g29

[urban surge]

PXN V9. Good if you want a ATS steering rig cheap

I plan to get the G923 in the future

[warm scarab]

what is an ats

[urban surge]

American Truck Sim

[warm scarab]

oh

[urban surge]

Yea

[warm scarab]

id just skip to a moza r9

wait is the g923 the 1000$ logi wheel

[urban surge]

nope. The 320 dollar one

I'm not planning on doin crazy racing or anything. Just sim driving in Beam NG and other similar games. I mainly just want a steering wheel I can rely on and one that has force feedback

[warm scarab]

please dont buy a belt driven wheelbase for 320$ lmao

get a moza r3 or something

its a direct upgrade by every way possible

4nm direct drive base

im not a moza fanboy btw its just the prices are good, if you are down for it id tell you to just build your own wheelbase

I got a 15nm DD I made for like 150$

[urban surge]

Ah. I'll take the advice into account. Not a big fan that the R3 requires the clutch pedal to be bought separately

But we'll see what happens

[warm scarab]

you want pedals included as a bundle?

[urban surge]

Clutch brake and gas and steering wheel with force feedback

[warm scarab]

ooh the clutch yeah i see it

[urban surge]

I already have a shifter picked out

[warm scarab]

yeah clutch you'll have to get

idk man its such a substantial upgrade over the belt driven wheelbase

its really best for you to take like an additional 20-40$ hit for the clutch pedal

[urban surge]

Alr

[warm scarab]

pedals dont really break either so you could just grab 2nd hand whatever on ebay

maybe even cut it in half lol

[urban surge]

lol

[stone quartz]

Do these look like they would be good for Atmos height channels? They claim that plastic arrangement makes for better off-axis treble

[warm scarab]

unsure if anyone here fucks with atmos

ask in sonic visions maybe

a lot of speaker boomers there

[stone quartz]

Is that another Discord?

[warm scarab]

yea just google it

[stone quartz]

Thanks

[warm scarab]

np

[stone quartz]

Only other audio Discord I knew of was Z Reviews, and that has been paywalled to death

There's DMS too, actually

[warm scarab]

i dont think either of those communities are good lol

z is a self admitted shill that just sells whatever for affiliate

dms idk honestly but he's done some weird stuff

[stone quartz]

Yeah

I found Z funny, but I don't care for his reviews since he started doing the extremely expensive stuff

Golden Sound is another good Discord Server

I think he's in here

[warm scarab]

yeah he is here

[stone quartz]

Probably the most credible

[warm scarab]

ive not interacted with his discord that much but provided his character i dont expect it to be a shitty echochamber

[lean grove]

gone to shit ever since they purged all the people that actually know what they're talking about a few years ago

[broken grotto]

anyone use Roon?

I want to know if it's any good.

and if you think it is good, why. or why it's bad.

[green marsh]

waste of money

[broken grotto]

how do you paywall a discord

[green marsh]

you can lock channels behind patreon subscriptions, theres the server subscriptions, etc

[broken grotto]

I see lol

[broken grotto]

just curious, can you elaborate?

it seems neat, if it can bridge Tidal and my home library well

[green marsh]

lyrion music server is free

formerly known as logitech media server

[elder thistle]

let me fix this for you

it's marketing

I revoke their arrow playtime privileges

a small waveguide on the tweeter isn't a bad idea though

[broken grotto]

this looks ok, but it also has some windows vista vibes

[uneven mountain]

Just wanted to share some pics of my audio setup and a vid of it at 55% volume.

Please forgive the wrappers around the subwoofer, the trashcan back there fell over and spilled out half of its contents on the floor the night before taking the pic of the subwoofer.

Here's a pic with my current eq on the graphical equalizer in case anyone is interested.

And please forgive the poor audio quality in the video, It was filmed on my note 20 with its mic.

[dapper berry]

what would be an alternative to the Beyer DT880s? Also, no more Beyer recommendations please

Thanks

[green marsh]

880 + ta-66 😈

[supple robin]

Bruh

[sleek lily]

He560v4 is a good option to look into, but I've had a bad experience with hifiman. Anecdotal, but worth mentioning.

[dapper berry]

yea, same as me and BD

headphones sound good, but build quality is atrocious ...

it's like you got them off of TEMU or something ... shockingly bad

talking about BD btw.

I was thinking about going Sennheisers purely because they just seem to be solid

I probably wouldn't consider Chinese headphones, as good sounding as they might be ...

but then again, Germans aren't what they used to be either ...

[zinc rain]

Thanks for the recommendation dude. They sound great.

[broken grotto]

as crazy as it is, my hifiman EF400 is in a little open cabinet, and I was slightly worried about heat. so i added a smol noctua fan driven by an esp32 to turn it on when the amp is on, and now i think the amp is too cool lmao

[broken grotto]

why not?

even other brands whom aren't from China use some parts produced from China. it's hardly exclusive to China to produce sub-par products.

[warm scarab]

👍

look up ideal speaker placement

on google images

lol

[zinc rain]

I uhh…

[warm scarab]

i mean

sure

[zinc rain]

sound good 👍

[dapper berry]

AT2020 gang

[warm scarab]

did it come with any foam

[zinc rain]

I got mine on Amazon for like $65 years ago and they randomly jumped up to like $120

[zinc rain]

Nah

<@&750150305383186585>s explode this guys balls

[dapper berry]

yea, they're amazing ... you literally don't need anything better unless you're some sort of an audio guy

I love mine

[bold cedar]

[zinc rain]

Thanks

[zinc rain]

I considered upgrading to an XLR mic but like… for what lol

Does yours also get super bass boosted/distorted sounding if you go above about 80% volume in windows?

That’s my only complaint. But if I just keep the input volume at 80% it sounds great.

[dapper berry]

not sure, I have mine at like 60ish pct

[chrome imp]

oh wehn did you get those

[zinc rain]

Today

[chrome imp]

nice

[zinc rain]

Just hooked em up

[broken grotto]

that desk is too clean

[chrome imp]

yeah I now barely use my headphones after getting my speakers lol

Get yourself some speaker stands

[zinc rain]

hmmm y tho

[chrome imp]

gets them off the desk so sounds doesn't bounce off of it

[broken grotto]

tbh you can 3d print some

[zinc rain]

I’ll still definitely use my headphones for competitive games

[chrome imp]

that too

[broken grotto]

spend 30 minutes in fusion

print them

[chrome imp]

yeah if I was doing any VC with friends or comp stuff I would use my headphones

[broken grotto]

20 minutes of swearing at Autodesk for it being cloud based, 10 mins of actual CAD.

man i miss Eagle ):

[zinc rain]

This is deadass why I haven’t gotten into CAD lol

Fusion pissed me off

[broken grotto]

buy Solidworks for Makers for $48.

[zinc rain]

Permanent license?

[broken grotto]

yearly, but it's better than Fusion's BS.

[zinc rain]

Ah

With how little I do I could cope with fusion ig

[broken grotto]

as much as i have massive beef with Dassault, the $48 a year choice was a no-brainer after nearly yeeting my pc out the window

Autodesk completely ruined Eagle lmao

I think OnShape is free, no?

[night plume]

@lean grove 2 nitpicks I have with the Adam DVS3's the inconsistent volume going up vs going down and that they turn themselves off after a while of not playing audio when plugged into my PC

And that I have to keep changing the volume depending on what I am listening to(never had this issues with other speakers/headphoines)

Basically I have to push it beyond where I need the volume before backing up to where I need it and even then I can't get it just right

Looks like I need to fiddle with the volume of my PC as well as the speaker to get levels just right

[lean grove]

but weird.

do they sound good at least?

and is the size what you needed?

[night plume]

Yeah size is perfect

[lean grove]

thats a problem with what youre listening to, not the speakers themselves.

[night plume]

Sound great once I dial them in per audio I am listening to

[lean grove]

if you use spotify, theres a setting called "sound normalization" which might help

[night plume]

I use youtube

as well as my own audio files

Same with video game s being lower then normal volume for me

Meaning my other notifications are going to be blowing me ears out

When they come through while gaming

[zenith pawn]

that kinda just sounds like you need to sort out the volume you have set for various programs in the OS mixer

[night plume]

Never had to touch it before this and even within the same app the volume isn't consiszstent

[slow sun]

finaly got me one

tho gotta say its got few bugs in controler mode

[pallid linden]

where did you order it from? I was just browsing through different DAPs on Linsoul

kinda wondering if Linsoul is okay for European customers

[slow sun]

found this one faulty on ebay (battery cold solder joint)
but you can still buy direct from hiby

[pallid linden]

okay

[slow sun]

https://store.hiby.com/products/hiby-r4-x-evangelion

also has a bug with storage calculation
64gb int + 256gb microsd
320gb storage
but reported 576gb lol

[pallid linden]

wow the price is not too bad

would think Evangelion theme could spike the price up

[slow sun]

it do also have 64gb storage vs normal version 32gb

also faster storage
orignal emmc
eva ufs

do wish it was asuka themed tho not shinji

but it sounds soo mutch better than my phone dac
with same corsair virtoso headset

but realy theres only one aproprate song to play on this

[pallid linden]

I cracked my Cowon player's screen by accident.. are there any players which could support 2 microsd cards?

[slow sun]

can you not find a screen replacment

[pallid linden]

hmm I will find out

[left verge]

What EQ software does everyone use?
I use FXSound for it's simplicity, but idk what else would be out there
Besides APO, which is kind of a apin (for me)

[warm scarab]

apo

[left verge]

What is this?

[left verge]

I'm surprised
I tried to use APO, but I gave up in like 5 minutes because it was completely unnavigable lol

[warm scarab]

watch a 10 minute tutorial on it

program is simple but if you have zero minutes of research on how to use it

you can't use it

[left verge]

I did

I thought I was doing something wrong
Watched a tutorial and still

[warm scarab]

what is the issue

[left verge]

This was months ago
But I couldn't navigate any of it, tutorial or not
I know that they have plugins and etc, but thats a rabbit hole and a half

[warm scarab]

define like

1 problem

its just a literal txt file in gui form

you tell it to boost 20hz

it does that

[left verge]

I would have to try it again, I think I tried to forget about it. 😅
I think one of the problems had to do with presets?

[white gate]

Roon

[warm scarab]

its music bee

but you pay 500$ for it

really cool program that helps you delete your disposable budget

[left verge]

Ooh that program

[white gate]

I can't live without roon now tbh

[zinc rain]

This may be a dumb question but does anyone know if EQ’ing my MR3’s would also effect headphones using the headphone jack on the speakers themselves?

[white gate]

If you're doing the EQ on your OS/before the speakers then yes, the audio is EQ'ed before sending to them so anything they receive and pass to the headphone jack will be EQ'ed

[zinc rain]

I see

Hmm. Guess I’ll use my headphones on the front panel jack like I was.

[white gate]

If you're talking about the EQ on the speakers themselves then they shouldn't affect the headphone output

[zinc rain]

The edifier app has somewhat limited EQ functionality so idk how I’d end up doing it. But good to know.

[opaque ingot]

my kanto sub8 is receiving power but not working. it has been working fine for 2-3 years until now

[fast coyote]

Is Austrian Audio a good brand?

[warm scarab]

brands arent good

products are

[lean grove]

they have weird headphones. I liked the composer but i would never pay $3000 for it

[fast coyote]

I was more looking along the lines of the X55, X60, X65. Somewhere there.

[lean grove]

what for?

[fast coyote]

Music production, actually diving into some better headphones. Plus I like the designs of those models.

[lean grove]

hmmm....

yeah i mean. im not a producer. but i know that those headphones are funky. they have a really unusual tuning where they have a w shape sound, boosting some frequencies and dipping at others

[fast coyote]

A W frequency curve... That's new

I'm used to seeing V

[lean grove]

yeah they're utterly unique

I don't know why Austrian audio purposefully tunes their headphones like that, but they do it consistently

so you can see theres a bump in the mid-bass at 100-200hz, a dip in the mids, and then a peak at 1-2khz

[fast coyote]

Alright. Hmmm... Aren't a lot of the engineers former AKG engineers?

[lean grove]

that's the story

[fast coyote]

Pull up a graph of, say, AKG K712s.

[lean grove]

this is from a different measurement rig so the measurements arent exactly comparable

[fast coyote]

And the X55s and X60s are closed backs. shit. Forgot to mention that 😂

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

what kind of music are you gonna be producing

[broken grotto]

I didn't really care for the austrian audio hi-x60's I had

I thought they were kinda uncomfortable and sounded a little funkeh

[shy sand]

alr, i wanna get a nice surround sound system for my 4k monitor i got for free at a raffle: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/K3PQzy/samsung-tu874-315-3840x2160-60-hz-monitor-lf32tu874vnxgo
and these are the speakers i currently have: https://www.amazon.com/LENRUE-Computer-Speakers-USB-Powered-Sound-bar/dp/B096YZDSCQ/142-2017528-9847818?pd_rd_w=kHZfc&content-id=amzn1.sym.20285f2e-8a53-4f04-80ac-72a8e70f8611&pf_rd_p=20285f2e-8a53-4f04-80ac-72a8e70f8611&pf_rd_r=V089AJZ75H4KKBC5GFJ0&pd_rd_wg=2B0qa&pd_rd_r=4121be50-c996-4041-93e5-8ddb4c749b78&pd_rd_i=B096YZDSCQ&th=1
Any suggestions? this is for a desktop set up, also ive noticed alot of good quality stuff is expensive

would a 5.1 channel be a bit much?

[acoustic ravine]

I've got HD6XX headphones, and I'm looking for a way to connect them to my phone. I'm also wanting to start building my home audio system. Is there a device that would work for both?

If not, what portable USB C to 3.5mm adapter would work well for on the go?

[broken grotto]

FiiO KA11

[lean grove]

Kind of? There's the qudelix t7i which is capable of surround sound and Bluetooth and it's portable.

[jade idol]

hey guys can anyone hear recommend me some good headphones (for gaming) like 100 or less

not with a mic plz

oh yeah it can be wired or unwired idc

idk if either is better or not

[lean grove]

https://koss.com/products/porta-pro

[jade idol]

anything that dosent look like it was made 50 years ago?

no hate but 😭

i mean look at them yk 😭

[civic beacon]

If you're just getting started, I would recommend reviewing https://www.soundguys.com/earbuds-headphones/

[jade idol]

soundguys? havent heard of them

[civic beacon]

Get a feel for what's out there that might meet your needs and budget. Check RTINGS.com as well.

[jade idol]

do u have any ideas tho?

[halcyon portal]

What do you guys recommend for connecting an XLR microphone and a bass guitar to my computer?

(Budget friendly but also sounding good with my bass)

[lone flame]

KSC75

[lone flame]

how budget?

[jade idol]

GUYS

i got arctis nova 5 headphones are those good?

ive heard steel series is pretty good and they have a good rating on rting.com

just wanted to know what the people here think

[elder thistle]

ndh20 user here

I mean if you want something with precise placement and distances in the soundstage, maybe not the right product

if you want something that'll recover more details and possible mixing errors, lets you study any instrument without soloing, really effectively design kicks/snares, and judge volume levels between instruments,

well that's an ndh20

they've replaced the jobs of my monitor speakers and hd600

I don't think divine intervention could give another headphone around this price a chance to be more revealing

I heard things on these I couldn't hear on focal stellias and an lcd-x

but maybe a more sane combination of sound behaviors exists

these are overkill in the ways I described

[livid ruin]

pc37x, he400se, used/second hand hd560s, ugreen max5c if you don’t mind smaller pads, akg k361

[elder thistle]

whay

that was a rollercoaster of a recommendation list to read

[livid ruin]

yes

[elder thistle]

which games? and what are you trying to hear or experience in these games

also can you use free eq software if necessary

[livid ruin]

i’ve tried kph30i’s for example in gaming and they weren’t very usable

but everyone has different ears and taste, to me their treble was off and had metallic profile, soundstage not really good which is probably important for games

also got grado pads on them, i mean, yeah better soundstage… but the treble was more for the elderly

Jackson can you measure ugreen max5c? according to few sources they measure very well at $30

i mean, they do be sound good

[fast coyote]

Sounds perfect. Thanks man

[elder thistle]

yeah, I can do that early next month

it has a headphone jack too so

[broken grotto]

people sure do like to recommend HiFiMan headphones. I've never actually used them. I have their EF400 amplifier, it's ok, good for what I use it for. Not sure about their headphones tho

[bronze plover]

How does one measure a speaker?

[green marsh]

with a calibrated omnidirectional measurement mic

[bronze plover]

Is it important to do it in an enclosure or do i get mostly the same measurements everywhere?

[elder thistle]

you can take measurements of how it performs in a specific spot in your room. changing either of those two things will cause mild to severe changes in the measurements

try measuring maybe 10 spots you'd possibly be in when listening, then average

also don't go to steep and severe with the bass correction. it'll cause ringing and make things worse

[maiden basin]

Would anyone have suggestions on what I should get as a next headset? I have a Kraken V3 Pro and it’s a nightmare to deal with. I have the budget range of under 300 USD.

[jade idol]

FPS games and story games and idk man audio 😭 I got the Arctis nova 5’s coming so hopefully those are good

saw some people reccomend them and they looked good so 😭

[elder thistle]

oh ok

[zinc rain]

honestly I wouldn’t bother with a headset. Seperate headphones and mic are almost always better anyways.

Like good headsets exist but they’re too expensive for what they are imo

[elder thistle]

300usd is a big budget

I guess some of the hyped wireless ones are a little further

but hype is never real so

[jade idol]

what do u think man are arctis nova 5's good

u seem like u know a lot

they got like a 7.6 on that rating website people send the link too

idk if thats good \

[elder thistle]

I only got to try them for about 60 seconds at a store

but there are lots of ways a headphone could be seen as good or bad

I remember the treble sounded weird and artificial, kind of like shp9500

[jade idol]

ive only used like 60 dollar turtle beach stuff my whole life so its prob a upgrade loll

[elder thistle]

they didnt separate sounds / preserve clarity of each sound when many are overlapping, any better or worse than a lot of $50 headphones do

but the tonal balance seemed pretty decent at a glance

and they seemed to do well with the directions of sounds in that demo. obvious sense of direction, and moderately tight area it points to

hopefully I'm not confusing any of that with the astro a20

that and the hyperx cloudx were the most interesting of the bunch, to me anyways

[jade idol]

so basically

good enough?

[elder thistle]

I believe so yes

like the basics plus a little extra for most comp fps games

[jade idol]

honnestly i mainly got it cause the build quality looked like it wont snap in 8 months 😭

[maiden basin]

Yeah I have a boom mic but really prioritize music since that’s like my main focus when I go to my pc.

[elder thistle]

I havent heard of any common build quality issues yet with the nova lineilup

[maiden basin]

And when there is certain notes, I hear like a static in the headphones.

[jade idol]

alright bet cause i have some corsair like 60 buck ones and there starting to snap 😭

anything is better

[jade idol]

thats sad man i hope u get some better ones!

[maiden basin]

Yeah, I am looking into some that last longer but have good sound quality, which is virtually impossible with a 250-300 USD budget.

[jade idol]

time to ball out and save and get some 2k headphones loll

[maiden basin]

[jade idol]

https://tenor.com/view/grinchmeme-saturday-morning-trust-me-gif-12992945

[maiden basin]

atp imma just get a full dj grade audio system

whole neighborhood finna be up

[jade idol]

yesss sirrrr u got that

[maiden basin]

yuhhh

[jade idol]

just drop a good 6 or 7 k on the set up

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-67-67-meme-gif-790679381357533721

[maiden basin]

Lmao

[jade idol]

alright ima excuse myself lmaoo

[maiden basin]

[jade idol]

[slow sun]

i do sometimes find hiby controler mode funny when shows wrong album art lol

[lone flame]

in short. the new ones are actually good.
the other ones. Sound good. with the typical 2K dip and mostly a bit bright

[lone flame]

MMM would work too

[lone flame]

u from USA?

[maiden basin]

Yes.

[lone flame]

HD6xx + Apple Dongle and a cheapo USB Mic

maybe Fifine Am8

[maiden basin]

Imma figure out what this means. Thank you though!!!

[lone flame]

its a mic

@green marsh i like the hifiman sound

the new Hifiman headphones, the unveiled sound good

they feld good too. but idk about the build quality and QC

[green marsh]

umhmm

[stuck bolt]

I ordered some new headphones as my other ones are glitching out

https://a.co/d/dE1idn6

On sale BTW

[civic beacon]

Great price for some great headphones. I bought the WH-1000XM3's for the same price years ago. Sound great, feel great, noise cancel amazingly, and unlike the 1000XM5's, the headband didn't break in 6 months!

[stuck bolt]

Oof

Yeah I got JBL LIVE 770NC I use for work, the earpads are pretty done at the moment

And they got paint and stains on them as well, so work headphones would stay at the woodshop

[zenith pawn]

Sony xm
run before the audiophiles arrive

[civic beacon]

Not all audio products need to be "high quality" (subjective) to be enjoyed by everyone's ears.

[zenith pawn]

That's why you gotta run before anyone can convince you otherwise

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-vince-mc-mahon-entrance-entry-strut-gif-4685176

[zenith pawn]

Ohno

Ohio

Oh no

[lone flame]

Nah. It's like looking at a tube TV compared to a clean OLED.
Jk yeah preference exists
I liked some tracks on the Fosi headphones as example

No vocals tho

Vocals sound straight up shit

It's like Golden likes the 1266 for some stuff 😄

[glass vessel]

same bro

[livid ruin]

If you only care about sound... Ugreen max5c, though they have similarly small pads

[severe hare]

Guys, Klipsch KG 2.5 for 180€ is kinda expensive? with subwoofer

for TV/living room

[lean grove]

With a subwoofer it's a decent deal.

You'll need an amp as well so factor that into the overall cost too

[severe hare]

just bought. subwoofer from klipsch too

everything only have 2 inputs, i would need a amp with pre-out?

was thinking Fosi Audio BT20A Pro

now i need cables.. 14awg i guess

[lean grove]

What's the back of the sub look like

[lean grove]

That thing on the bottom is the subwoofer?

[severe hare]

Top, bottom is 2.5kg speaker

[lean grove]

Okay. So that makes things a bit more complicated.

That's a passive sub so you'll need an amp specifically for it.

Are you sure it's a subwoofer and not a center channel

[severe hare]

Uhm

Never seen this

Kvq

Kv1

[lean grove]

That is a center channel. Not a subwoofer.

[severe hare]

Yup. Just saw on google

[lean grove]

So it's meant for home theater for dialogue and stuff

[warm scarab]

its meant for home theaters to make movies sound worse

[severe hare]

I though it was a sub, what a stupidity

Oh well

Soo i would need an amp with support for center piece

is there an non expensive way to connect the center channel? or its only with home theater amp?

AVR i see..

[lean grove]

Yes and no.
There are some very silly and inadvisable things you can do that are non-expensive. But to fully utilize the center channel you need a surround sound decoder of sorts.

[severe hare]

i see. theres AVR which is expensive but does the 2 things
or i need a surround sound decored + AMP

[lean grove]

Honestly I would recommend you just ignore the center channel.

You're using the sunk cost fallacy to buy something more expensive and overall worse that you probably don't need.

Just stick with the stereo system.

[prime minnow]

can also just sell the center channel off and treat it like a coupon to get the speakers cheaper

[severe hare]

since iam in an island, selling the center piece chance is very low, but got it.
the KG2.2 alone should be great

with somth like Fosi Audio BT20A Pro

its just a bummer since 180€ for kg2.2 only is not that GREAT deal, but i have to feel reality 😄

thank you!

[tired crown]

Are Truthear pure good for under $100 Iems for competitive gaming and music

[fallow oxide]

Does the TDR Nova EQ make the EQ always be active?

[livid ruin]

old hd560s absolutely rock i love emmmmmmm

morr than hd6xx

[broken grotto]

don't admit you like something because someone will try to convince you that you actually hate them

[livid ruin]

fuck fiio ft1, problem solved

[broken grotto]

lmao

[lone flame]

yes

with Apple Dongle ofc

[lone flame]

[kind hawk]

Replaced my hd380 pros with HD6xx why do the HD6XX sound so tinny and bad

[stuck bolt]

Keep in mind that there's 4 8" subs in the back.

[broken grotto]

iems > headphones

iems dont mess up mah hair

[lone flame]

a you issue

objectivly. Headphones betteer

[broken grotto]

Is it objective in all situations, or just some?

[lone flame]

i talk about sound

the most important thing for an Audio Product

[broken grotto]

So any headphone always beats iems at any price?

[lone flame]

there is KSC75

also tech has specific entry prices

and sweetspots

IEMs use less material and nowadays are oftenly 3D Printed

[lone flame]

also price is irrelevant when it comes to sound. Because you can have cheap stuff sound good and expensive stuff sound shit

[livid ruin]

they're mid focused headphones

[broken grotto]

The main reason I dont agree that headphones are always better is mainly one of simple mind.

If they were truly always better, you wouldn't see them. They have advantages in size.

Sound is great and all, but sound does no good if you cant use them.

[livid ruin]

we gotta admit they're not for bass enthusiasts (the hd6xx bass actually sucks) and well, upper treble also could see some work

[broken grotto]

With that being said, yeah, headphones will do a better sound than iem's.

....sometimes.

[livid ruin]

to me things like he400se and hd 6xx are paper cannons

[green marsh]

bro is tripping

quantity and quality are not the same thing

[livid ruin]

yes, the hd6xx have neither

[green marsh]

bro doesnt have ears

[broken grotto]

what if they got chopped off

[green marsh]

bro doesnt have ears

has to use an amir graph to "prove" his point

[green marsh]

😔

unfortunate

[livid ruin]

i have hd560s and 6xx just sound like paper cannons when it comes to bass (compared)

[broken grotto]

could be a lizard

[green marsh]

blud needs an amp clearly

[livid ruin]

i do . . .

[lone flame]

tbh. today i learned to be cautios about Amir Headphone Measurements

[broken grotto]

117db upper bound, looks so squished

[livid ruin]

what happened

[green marsh]

just today?

[lone flame]

Seems like Amir just throws the Headphone on the rig. measures it. done

he doesnt take multiple ones

no different seatings

[lone flame]

ye

[livid ruin]

i mean he says he does in some of his reviews

[green marsh]

will boldly post obviously faulty measurements

[lone flame]

his FT1 measurements

[broken grotto]

I like preference reference though

[broken grotto]

it's like putting table of tables in a test plan

[livid ruin]

it's unlikely every reviewer got the bass rolloff wrong of the hd6xx

[green marsh]

i love how amir also uses harman on a rig that harman isnt meant for

[lone flame]

what rig is he specificly using?

[broken grotto]

he has all that white space on the side to put his dirty analysis and chooses right on the plot

[lone flame]

JM-1 🥀

[green marsh]

ugh

[lone flame]

i just dont like JM-1

[green marsh]

looks the same i guess

[broken grotto]

also notice how his plots don't have an x-limit of 20kHz

[green marsh]

almost

[green marsh]

well they do it just doesnt have the number