audio-tech

[warm scarab]

yea

[dapper dome]

ye

Coolio

[lone flame]

lot of people dont like the m50x's comfort

[dapper dome]

Definitely took a few years to get used to ;)

[lone flame]

i personally recommend a Capra Strap for the FT1

[warm scarab]

a lot of people dont like the mx50~~'s comfort~~

[dapper dome]

I feel like I got my pair for like $60-$70, so I coped

[lone flame]

if you ask what a Capra strap is. its that strap for the headband

[warm scarab]

eh

[dapper dome]

Find this on Amazon ?

[lone flame]

it spreads the weight on your heads on a WAY bigger area

[dapper dome]

Beat me to the punch- i appreciate it

[lone flame]

are u merican?

[dapper dome]

are you insulting my headband baldspot?!?!

[dapper dome]

Yep :)

[lone flame]

also i ONLY would get it if you hotspot on your head

[green marsh]

personally i think people need to toughen up

[dapper dome]

Hotspot on your head?

[green marsh]

if you were find with the m50x claming on your ears i dont think youll need a capra strap

[lone flame]

when you feel pressure on your head and it starts to be uncomfy or hurts

[dapper dome]

I’ve had too many concussions to notice probably so

I’ll purchase as an addon if need be

[lone flame]

https://capraaudio.com/products/sony-mdr7506-fiio-ft1-comfort-strap?_pos=1&_psq=FT1&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[dapper dome]

They do make em more sexy looking tho

Honestly may do it anyways

[sleek lily]

Should I make this my new pfp

[dapper dome]

Needs a cigar

[sleek lily]

True

Gotta feed it back through gpt

[lone flame]

Maybe some dust on the fur? like he just came out of war

[green marsh]

stolen valor

[sleek lily]

You don't know what wars my car fought in

[green marsh]

was it the great purrsian war

[sleek lily]

Meeshter Tom is an American hero

🥹

[dapper dome]

I’m probably gonna order from the forbidden amazon for the ft1s, so Idk if I wanna get these from here

hate me for enjoying the convenience all you want, I am not sorry

[lone flame]

fr. i can understand that people order from amazon

they are fast

[dapper dome]

I wonder if the uGreen USB-C adapter is as good/better than Apples

[lone flame]

and on some shops you dont know if it will be here within the next 36 months

[green marsh]

apples is the best frfr

[dapper dome]

I also sorta need these like

[lone flame]

FT1 probably would run on a Potato

[dapper dome]

yesterday to be fair so

[dapper dome]

plugs directly into brain

hmmm sounds like thoughts

[lone flame]

headphone AMP

[dapper dome]

I also have like $3,000 in Amazon credit so like

[lone flame]

💀

Bro bought his whole networth on Amazon

[dapper dome]

I sure tried

(I build PCs as a side gig)

I charge nearly nothing. 6% back on my Amazon card is goated

[green marsh]

sick

[dapper dome]

hey, seriously thank you guys. I appreciate the help!

[warm scarab]

np

[lone flame]

np

[green marsh]

np

[lone flame]

POV you bought FT1

[broken grotto]

Thats why you buy the LTT screwdriver

[lone flame]

uh

If you reach out to FiiO Support

[terse river]

Ooh those are pretty

[lone flame]

you get an Screw replacement kit

and there is a screwdriver inside

and SOME screws

like this

[broken grotto]

Or you just do what I did and tighten the ones already there.

[lone flame]

what if they snap

[broken grotto]

Then you messed up lmao

[lone flame]

nono

therefore there is that kit

so you can put in new screws

but yes also messed up xD

[zenith pawn]

buy iems

[lone flame]

not everyone likes IEMs

or can wear them

like me

[zenith pawn]

skill issue

actually skull issue i should say

[lone flame]

Ear canal issue

[zenith pawn]

well cartilege isnt part of your skull

but close enough

apparently cartilage is spelled with an a

[lone flame]

my earcanal is shaped weirdly

[zenith pawn]

plastic surgery

get it to be able to wear a peripheral 🧌

[dapper dome]

Hey I’ve got 3 of those

(lttstore.com btw)

[lone flame]

you need more

[dapper dome]

Yeah I’m buying the transparent boi

[warm scarab]

it cannot be hard to fix this

[lone flame]

working for Nasa is

[stuck bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-wallet-i-am-broke-no-money-no-cash-gif-24120042

Me rn

[broken grotto]

I have the OG, retro and transparent

[dapper dome]

I used one of mine as a prybar and busted the bit holder lmao

[broken grotto]

yea don't do that

I was used to the snap on ones where you could do that, so i make sure to treat the LTT one like it's a snappy knock off

[dapper dome]

to be clear, 100% user error

[green marsh]

its not it just uses a t1 bit that most people dont have

[warm scarab]

you dont need the exact bit, just find a replacement screw

[lone flame]

had a guy that got a fatass screw from a market

[warm scarab]

yeah i mean why the fuck not

measure inside

get whatever that is in metric

get some slidey bit between the head of the screw and the end

bolt it on the other end

cut off or file the excess if needed

[green marsh]

i mean fiio aint using the screw anymore

[warm scarab]

it might not rotate as smoothly but it will work

[green marsh]

they replaced it with a pin and e clip which is also in that same replacement kit

[warm scarab]

id have to see the absolute troglodyte who trashed their headphone over a broken screw

[green marsh]

there are lots of them on reddit who lost the screw when they somehow didnt notice it getting loose on them

and spontaneously disassembled itself

[broken grotto]

all this FT1 discussion made me bring them out

and now that im listening to them again, they really don't have that much isolation do they lol

[lone flame]

for an closed back imo quite good 😄

and if you start to play noise it gets even better

[broken grotto]

i mean, comparing them to other closed backs they don't block as much

at least ones ih ave

my dan clark ones (drop aeon closed?) def isolate a little more

[warm scarab]

the modern man will do anything aside from god forbid touch a screwdriver to fix their shit

the forgotten art of going to the hardware store and buying a single screw and a bolt

[stuck bolt]

I will always fix my shit

Wait, that means I'm not a modern man

[lone flame]

i don't wanna ask what you do with your shit after taking one...

[stuck bolt]

[warm scarab]

free thinker

[stuck bolt]

Well, I build inside of buy most of the time

Example

[warm scarab]

I build anything I can thats not overwhelming to me and I have the proper equipment for

provided its not a downgrade over market

[stuck bolt]

Make sense

[lean grove]

well since you're poor, have no equipment, and are easily overwhelmed it means you build nothing, right?

[stuck bolt]

Those I build are the second best sounding speakers ive heard so far

[warm scarab]

I was looking into building a vr headset but unfortunately that's one of the stuff thats a downgrade ovet market

[warm scarab]

I built my sim wheelbase

one of my prouder achievements

[lean grove]

is that part of your vrchat furry roleplay or whatever

[warm scarab]

would have cost me 1600$

[lone flame]

if he's turkish he got a Mercedes Benz or BMW

[lean grove]

i would be surprised if he had a car tbh

[warm scarab]

no its a part of my roleplaying scenario where i can afford a car above 10hp

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/tempu-auto-rickshaw-gif-11235829560951487653

[warm scarab]

which fucking turks do you speak to man wtf

[lean grove]

the ones who can afford to travel to germany

[warm scarab]

turks in germany dont represent turks

[lean grove]

as a german turk, you should know

[warm scarab]

they got like a 90% partisan rate

[lone flame]

parmesan cheese?

[warm scarab]

meanwhile in turks the partisans are 55% at best

[stuck bolt]

Tuktuk for the win

[warm scarab]

you are german you should know what partisan means

[lone flame]

yes

still idc

Döner is fcking awesome

and barbers too

[warm scarab]

food is kinda the only thing we are good at

[lone flame]

and being barbers

[warm scarab]

yeah as in the barbers who were paid to kill like a billion people historically

[lean grove]

nah, turkey is internationally known as the male cosmetic surgery hub of the world

[lone flame]

not barbarians
People who cut your hair :3

[lean grove]

okay rhubarb barbera

[lone flame]

barbaras rhabarberbar?

[lean grove]

yeah where she makes her delicious rhubarb pie

[green marsh]

i mean i would have noticed it being loose long before it would have popped off lmao

[warm scarab]

what would you do with this knowledge

is the issue the c pin popping and screw getting lost?

[green marsh]

idk not have my headphones spontaneously disassemble

no

[warm scarab]

how would you prevent the screw breaking

[green marsh]

its two different mechanisms

[warm scarab]

if you knew it was failing

[green marsh]

the first one was simply screwed in

[stuck bolt]

Relatable

[green marsh]

and wasnt loctited good enough to stop it from backing out

which meant it would unscrew itself on you

[stuck bolt]

I have fully disassemble and reassemble my headphones multiple times.

[warm scarab]

if it just unscrews

what is the problem

just rescrew if it does

[green marsh]

people dont know how to screw screws

and it was a tiny torx screw that almost no one has

[dapper dome]

I have one ;)

[warm scarab]

id just shave off a useless bit until it fit

[dapper dome]

Also I caved and also got that capra audio strap

Cuz screw it eh? Why not

[warm scarab]

you can also just use a pincher or rubber to twist a screw you dont have the correct bit for

[dapper dome]

You could also tac weld a bit to the head and screw it back in that way

Just leave the bit there

(Or hotglue lmao)

[warm scarab]

might go through the screw

a strong contact welder might work better

wait is that what you meant by tac

[green marsh]

i dont think youd be able to wear the headphone after that

[warm scarab]

i might be dumb

oh well it could always be worse (nils)

[green marsh]

tac doesnt mean anything specific

[dapper dome]

yeah kinda like how you tac weld 18650s to a tin strip

just a quick bzt

[dapper dome]

at least it wouldn’t be a downgrade

Already can’t wear em

You could also use jbweld

I have a PC I built using JBweld to hold the motherboard standoffs to the case.

Each standoff withheld being hit with a framing hammer a few times, and if it didn’t stick it got replaced.

mobo aint going nowhere

[stuck bolt]

[broken grotto]

spot welding, it's used all over the place

[stray bridge]

anybody in this sever using this app SoundSwitch by aflalo?
if so, pls tell me is it safe or not, thank you

[celest galleon]

soundcore motion X600 at 120€

any alternatives worth considering for a portable speaker that is just for usage at home but needs to be portable into any room?

[dull trout]

edifier mp230

its got aux, bluetooth range that are quite decent as well, extremely loud too

currently my main speaker

[celest galleon]

also a lot cheaper, but no spatial sound :/

[lone flame]

"spacial sound" with a tiny speaker that sounds mono in 2 meters distance

[dull trout]

speaker wise, since its a 2 twitter anyway, its not really that effective

something like a 2.1 with separate stereo and sub somewhere in the corner would be ideal

in a tiny box like that, spatial is most likely just an advertisement to say that its wide

dont worry about it, you can never hear it

[celest galleon]

i watched like an hour of reviews and a lot of them even without ref links who are not sponsored by any brand pointed towards the x600

thats what got me asking

[dull trout]

believe me, or us, spatial sound is only ever effective if you have something virtual (usually software) or an actual 2.1/5.1/7.1 system and etc etc

[celest galleon]

also the 5th channel at the top can be turned on or off and that one is the most responsible for the spatial sound and you could here it in all the videos, especially when i was listening with my IEMs

so there would be a whole lot of marketing BS magic to fake all of that

[dull trout]

perhaps you are able to perceive it because youre using an iem?

its very hard to spatially transmit sound using a small speaker with 2 small speaker driver

even if its possible that is

is it a great sounding speaker? many people say it is

[warm scarab]

yeah

[dull trout]

though i dont think they ever got it because of its spatial thing

[warm scarab]

how tf do you have surround audio

with 2 speakers

its just a fancy fx filter and nothing else

you can download programs onto your pc for the same effect

its shit anyways i dont know anyone who uses it after a week

[broken grotto]

if you want spatial audio use speakers

and spend alotta money

or go see a live concert

[celest galleon]

alright, i tried to dig a little deeper, since your information is conflicting with the one i got from independent reviewers.
im not here to argue for or against a product i have no relationship to and didnt buy and have no bias outside of what i got from watching and reading all the reviews i could find in this time.
like every review even when comparing it to speakers way outside its price class, like the sonos move, sony xg300 or products from e.g. jbl in a similar price range they all lean towards the x600, all but 1 of them (i went through like 15+ comparison videos, 1/3 of them was marked as not sponsored, the other ones are unclear, but usually just had amazone ref links to all reviewed products, so if anything they should be biased towards the more expensive product, which the x600 in 12/15 cases is not, although pricing could have changed)

and many of them confirmed the spatial sound being a big difference to the sound quality, which is done with dolby atmos and to my knowledge that needs a specific type of AV receiver to work and its somewhere between difficult and impossible to use with a standard speaker that was not designed for spatial sound. feel free to correct me if im wrong and link me to where i could get software that can do that for any speaker while connecting from my phone.

i want to get a friend the best gift possible and not "win" an online argument against people who know more about the topic than i do, i just find it weird that your information is the exact opposite of what people have that review sound products as their job and are not sponsored by soundcore

[lean grove]

the x600 looks like its okay, ive seen worse bluetooth speakers, but the spatial sound probably isnt doing anything sophisticated.

https://www.rtings.com/speaker/reviews/anker/soundcore-motion-x600

[celest galleon]

at its price range, are there other products you would consider?

[lean grove]

i am personally a fan of the wonderboom just because its small, indestructible, sounds decent wherever you put it.

the x600 looks to be pretty directional, so its gonna need to be pointed roughly at you for it to sound its best

but maybe the spatial audio will fix that idk

[celest galleon]

yes thats the only downside i found as well, but thats no problem

in all the rooms my friend has, there is place to put it in a corner directing it at them

[lean grove]

have you heard it at your friend's house?

[celest galleon]

no it seems to be that its so directional bc of the spatial audio, because if ur not in front of it, dolby atmos sounds totally off

[celest galleon]

no the product isnt bought yet

[lean grove]

nah. its directional because the way the speakers are set up.

the speakers being far away from eachother means that they become more focused

due to fancy physical wave interferences

so thats just the design of the speaker

[celest galleon]

ah i see

[lean grove]

for a speaker to project wider and be less directional, really you want a single speaker/driver array or have the drivers be as close to eachother as possible

or just have speakers pointed in every direction

[celest galleon]

the spoeaker beign directional is not an actual downside

[lean grove]

yeah im just sayin

[celest galleon]

alright ^^

with wonderboom u meant the ultimate ears wonderboom 4 i suppose?

[lean grove]

yeah. it won't have as much bass extension as the x600 or get as loud.

[celest galleon]

its also 50 bucks cheaper

so thats fair

[lean grove]

i use it in the shower, podcasts, or if there's a bbq an i want some background music

[celest galleon]

i just know we are both not a fan of the volume buttons looking like a christian cross xD

[lean grove]

never noticed that until you pointed it out

[celest galleon]

xD

hope its not much of a problem for you tho 😄

[lean grove]

fortunately im not a vampire, so i think i'll be fine

[celest galleon]

xD

especially with the handle at the top i instantly got necklace vibes from it

snapshotting it like this, looks like AI butchered a cross necklace on chainmail or sth xD

[tacit trout]

a little cursed thing i have done, somehow it works

[steel escarp]

headphones straight into guitar?

[tacit trout]

yep, hyperx cloud 2 wireless

[steel escarp]

lets hope you don't fry the output stage of your guitar

wait an electric guitar is a passive instrument

the signals you'd hear would be so quiet

[tacit trout]

yep, its passive, and it had a better output range than the mic that connects there lol

its uncanny

like, loud and clear, but when the frequency gets too high (higher pitch notes) it lowers the sensitivity

also question: are the ni audio 8 interfaces worth fixing? mine stop being recognized in the usb...

[green marsh]

i was about to say

what output stage

[broken grotto]

I was wondering why i didn't like my ultimate ears speaker

[hidden meadow]

just got the fiio ft1, any thoughts? only had a jbl 760nc before this, quite an upgrade in sound quality

and should i buy a DAC for it? or is that overkill for a ft1? i was looking at the k11 r2r

[lean grove]

You got the headphones, you tell us.

And a DAC might be an upgrade. But you don't need anything too fancy.

K11 r2r is a good buy.

[broken grotto]

where's the guy telling him he needs a balanced cable and balanced DAC/amp

[lean grove]

i think that school of thought has been successfully bullied out of most of the common audio discord servers

[broken grotto]

fair enough lol

only useful if you really need more power, which is almost never.

[green marsh]

this is also not true

[lean grove]

there are some other technical benefits like getting rid of some types of noise and distortion.
but the biggest benefit is that it allows you to spend roughly twice as much money

[broken grotto]

it's a side effect. balanced is there for noise rejection, which isn't at all a big deal for the super short cable runs you see in home audio.

besides, most "balanced," isn't even truly balanced anyway, for headphones.

[green marsh]

what side effect

a single ended amp can be just as powerful as a balanced amp

and both can be powerful enough to drive 100% of headphones

[broken grotto]

built with the same supply rails and output device, a balanced amp can push more power than a single ended amp.

this is in the circuit design. a SE amp can be just as power or more than a balanced amp, yes, but it's more based on the amp's design.

[warm scarab]

can doesn't mean should

if your goal is pushing more power, balanced has an advantage over single ended

[broken grotto]

look at portable gear, like. DAP. The balanced generally does push more power than the SE.

[green marsh]

ofc on the same device the balanced is going to be 6db louder than single ended

[broken grotto]

for home audio, that's literally the only benefit of balanced. otherwise it's complete marketing.

you need an instrumentation amp on the other side for it to be effective.

which most headphones don't have.

[green marsh]

but other than that it literally doesnt matter

[broken grotto]

good pro-level gear uses balanced for noise rejection by using a hot and cold line, which gets subtracted at the receiving side.

[green marsh]

which only matters if youre doing 100 meter runs

[broken grotto]

one amp drives hot, one amp drives cold, instrumentation amp on reception for the subtraction.

[green marsh]

or live in a generator

[broken grotto]

most audio gear uses a bridged (i think they say BTL too) amplifier, where each headphone driver is connected between two amplifier outputs, meaning one pushes while the other pulls.

because there's no instrumentation amp at the end, the driver itself is the subtractor.

since the voltage is taken across the driver, it's twice the voltage swing, and less crosstalk.

pretty clever way tbh

[warm scarab]

he6

k1000

not exactly standard headphones

[green marsh]

speaker amps can be single ended

[warm scarab]

but it would be ignorant to say you dont need balanced amps

[broken grotto]

for your 1.2m iem cable? probably not.

[warm scarab]

you shouldnt really be comparing speakers to headphones and speaker amps to headphone amps

[green marsh]

they both have the same function

[warm scarab]

speakers are far more sensitive than headphones lol

[green marsh]

take low level audio signal and tranform it to high level

[green marsh]

?

[warm scarab]

thats like comparing a fucking lada to lambo because both have the letter L in it and go forwards

[broken grotto]

unless you happen to be standing right next to an FM transmitter

[warm scarab]

give a speaker X power and measure at 10cm

[green marsh]

both are cars that have ice engines and transmissions

[warm scarab]

give headphone X power and measure at 10cm

which do you think is louder

the answer is speaker

because they are far more sensitive

there is much less need in speakers needing balanced amps aside from sticking a label on it compared to headphones

unless you are driving something really weird

[green marsh]

and yet speaker amps do 10s to 100s of watts

while headphone amps are usually single digits

[warm scarab]

100s of watts at what impedance lol

[green marsh]

or less

[warm scarab]

they are usually measured at 8 or 0.1

mfw amazon car speaker has 10000w power

20$

also for comparison of headphone vs speaker power

with my 8 to 2 ohm attenuator connected to sundaras

I can go to 12 o clock for regular sound

whereas I cannot pass 9-10 without heavy eq using my speakers connected to the same terminals without the attenuator

even with a -20dB preamp for the speaker rew profile I still dont exceed 12 o clock

[green marsh]

but how many watts is it sending to the headphone vs the speaker

[warm scarab]

I dont know but the gap is wide enough for me to take note that one item is more efficient than the other given one can blast the house with music whereas the other is usable at 2cm attached to your head

you can push SE to drive any headphones but there is no real reason you should do that aside from having an engineering challenge and paying more money for the same result

[green marsh]

regardless if you have to bring up a few rare edge cases to counter me i think the arguement is moot

[warm scarab]

dude balanced amps themselves are few rare edge case

how much of the market do you think they make up

[broken grotto]

the whole point of being an audiophile is to hemorrhage money anyway

so buy that balanced amp

[green marsh]

out of audiophile stuff im pretty sure its at least a third

[warm scarab]

okay

so a third of the market uses the rails and psus they have in a fashion that outputs far more power than their SE counterparts

what is the problem present here

[green marsh]

6db isnt far more power

[warm scarab]

I dont know where you are getting this number

[green marsh]

thats literally how differential works

double voltage = 6db more volume

[warm scarab]

even if lets say that is the case

something capping out at 100 vs 106dB can make or break an insensitive headphone

[zenith pawn]

I need the extra hearing damage

[green marsh]

if youre running into cases where the extra 6 db is doing something you need a more powerful amp in the first place

[lean grove]

whats even the point of the argument.
if you need power, get power. there's single ended and balanced options with tons of power

[sleek lily]

True

[green marsh]

it started with this

[broken grotto]

more so you started it by replying to me.

but it's okay, life will continue

[sleek lily]

What's even being discussed?

[green marsh]

this is literally life ending stuff

my world will end

[broken grotto]

everyone else's life does, then.

[green marsh]

i would like to end it off with balanced is useless for a home audiophile

[broken grotto]

if you want an "ahhah!" then, fair enough. you are correct, you can get amps that have far more powered SE than balanced. However, in something like a small form factor DAP or something with limited power, balanced can provide more.

it's still pointless.

[sleek lily]

It's basically a design restriction thing

Sort of like how getting 500hp with a design restriction of an 8 cylinder engine being used might be easy

But getting 500 hp with a design restriction of a 2 cylinder is going to be more restrictive and require more headroom to make creative decisions to the design

Doesn't make it impossible, but it's not as easy.

[broken grotto]

i am fairly convinced that you see balanced outputs in DAPs a lot because they want to provide more power headroom compared to desktop amps. Is it necessary? probably not if you're just using IEM's.

[zenith pawn]

I'd say the cylinder count doesn't really matter as much as the displacement

low cylinder count just makes it harder to make a large displacement engine that doesn't blow itself up

[green marsh]

more like theyre just limited in power output to begin with

[broken grotto]

which is literally what i just said lmao

can't plug the DAP into the wall

[sleek lily]

Yes, but back to the original analogy, you're not going to easily balance a 3.6L 2 cylinder, nor will you easily support that or get it to fit in other limitations such as size.

[broken grotto]

balanced makes them more comparable to desktop versions.

[green marsh]

no one makes a car with a 2cyl

[broken grotto]

my lawnmower is

[zenith pawn]

small race car:

[sleek lily]

That's not the point of the analogy

[zenith pawn]

motorcycle

[celest galleon]

electrical car and u put 2 fancy hats on the back seat

there are ur 2 cylinders

[broken grotto]

lmao

[green marsh]

not a car smh

[zenith pawn]

oh

small race car then

[green marsh]

bmw did make the i8 which had a 3 cyl tho 💀

[broken grotto]

@green marsh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500_(2007)

[zenith pawn]

yeah but its really the displacement more than cylinder count

that's what I'm getting at

[green marsh]

fiat

[broken grotto]

you said no one

[green marsh]

are they still selling the 2 cyl

[zenith pawn]

V6 💪

[celest galleon]

no one:

fiat:

[sleek lily]

We don't disagree, but you're mistaking the point I'm making. I'm just saying it's a design restriction and the same applies here.

[zenith pawn]

you made the wrong argument so i must say 😠

grrr

[green marsh]

grrr

[celest galleon]

WHY

[broken grotto]

cuz it's cool

[green marsh]

wtf

[celest galleon]

who?

who would ever mod a multipla like that

[zenith pawn]

Is it fast

[celest galleon]

idk

just saw the picture

oh y

[green marsh]

cool is the f1 espace van

not that thing

[celest galleon]

v8 1300 horsepower

[zenith pawn]

that does seem like a lot of power

[broken grotto]

either way, if stuff was completely useless it wouldn't exist. except for audio.

Wait, darn...

nah, balanced amp architecture does actually have it's uses, and the way they're implemented in most home audio gear is about 80% marketing 20% actually useful.

[green marsh]

shoved a f1 v10 engine into a van with a 0-60\ of 2.8s

[green marsh]

let me tell you about my audio crystals

they increase percieved audio quality by 1000%

[celest galleon]

i once sat in a smart that was basically just made extra light weight and hat just a tiny bit extra power, it was just 90 horsepower or somethin, top speed of only 160 km/h

but u gave the gas pedal just a touch and ur up to 100

[green marsh]

cuz it weighs nothing

[zenith pawn]

What if my amp is 217 feet away

[celest galleon]

ofc, but that was a wild experience

[green marsh]

double it and maybe it matters

[celest galleon]

im used to motorcycles which are even lighter and dont accelerate nearly as fast

[broken grotto]

sure, then balanced does matter; but a 217 foot balanced headphone cable wouldn't be the right solution

i mean, move the amp closer is the first...

[green marsh]

but isnt low level more sensitive to noise

either way its pretty inane

[broken grotto]

it's more so that you aren't getting what you need from the balanced connection; remember the bridged thing i talked about?

[green marsh]

well regardless aint no one running cables longer than 10m in a home environment

[zenith pawn]

What if I have a full size stadium at my house that I set up a live music event at

[broken grotto]

yep, which is why balanced isn't really useful for home audio/

[celest galleon]

btw i was going to get desktop monitors in a few months to replace my 5.1, which, well nowadays is a 3.1 (its like 15 years old, the rear both broke at some point)
is there any point in getting a DAC or sth already?

[green marsh]

mf thats not a home enviroment smh

[zenith pawn]

I sleep at the stadium

[broken grotto]

well, you could do one of two things; you could use balanced line-level to take advantage of balanced architecture.

or, you could use constant-voltage lines.

[green marsh]

or you use ethernet to send the digital signal to each of the speakers

or wifi

[broken grotto]

hiss digital! Ew!

[zenith pawn]

oh so that's what the audiophile network switch on the one LTT video was for

[broken grotto]

lmao

[green marsh]

lmao

[warm scarab]

why if you have 6 db

[green marsh]

and then you listen to something that has less volume and your 6db is now useless

[celest galleon]

why are "audiophiles" such a coinflip, half the guys know their stuff, the other tries to sel lyou snake oil, magic stones and tells you the earth is flat

[zenith pawn]

too little pseudoscience

[broken grotto]

it takes a lot of time and learning to really understand a lot of it. I am more of an analog circuits kind of person, so the electrical side is fairly straightforward for me. for others. they might understand more of the audio engineering, which care less about the electrical side and more about the results.

ie, EE is objective, AE is subjective, and then there's the people who just believe anything if it costs them money.

normally people fall somewhere in the middle, allbeit without being into the field.

[zenith pawn]

Aerospace Engineering is pretty objective smh

[celest galleon]

people just cant shut their mouth if they are clueless :/

[broken grotto]

you also don't know what you don't know until you know

[green marsh]

i know literally everything there is to know about anything

[celest galleon]

same

thats why im here asking questions

just to mess with people

[lone flame]

Sup guys

[celest galleon]

next thing you'll know you're buying snake oil from my websites

[broken grotto]

you can see this if you'd like: https://www.tubecad.com/2017/12/blog0406.htm

i did a quick read, seems to discuss decently about bridged amplifiers.

[lone flame]

Why can't I teleport my shit that sits in my a.. Into the toilet?

[celest galleon]

skill issue

[green marsh]

because you are not from the future

[lone flame]

Didn't asked you

[green marsh]

in the future they will develop shit teleportation so you will never need to use the restroom

[celest galleon]

or build a restroom in your butt

[lone flame]

And the dirty water? What about that?

[celest galleon]

they fit an entire bathromm up there, probably just shrink the poop as well, no need for water

[faint sand]

My headset has a usb c dongle but my pc dosnt but my gpu does and it outputs audio would plugging my headset into the gpu be a bad idea or not

[civic beacon]

Your GPU's USB-C port likely won't function as an input, but nothing should "break" if you try...

[faint sand]

Ok

[celest galleon]

bro why did i get IEMs
im gonna get hearing loss from how much im using them

[zenith pawn]

turn the volume down

[celest galleon]

nah

that would be smart

but its too good

just rediscovered 8D music and its

idk

out of words tbh

[green marsh]

8d audio is literally just panning the music left and right 💀

[celest galleon]

yes

sometimes that just hits harder than my dad

and on IEMs its a night and day difference to normal headphones

[terse river]

ok guys, I need a headset for commute, I need convenience to be like the highest utility. I had this headset that used rechargable batteries that made it so i didnt have to charge it, but it was a piece of shit. any reccomendations?

[green marsh]

airpod max

[terse river]

i thought that airpod maxxes were mid for the price

oh yeah btw the headset needs to be wireless

[green marsh]

mid sound quality

and comfort is a bit sus

but for everything else

its great

[terse river]

is it good second hand?

[sick terrace]

everything is as long as the pads aren't decaying

[celest galleon]

what is even left after sound and comfort? xD
battery life

[green marsh]

anc, transparency mode, battery life, bt quality, build, controls

[terse river]

well i know the noise cancellation is supposed to be good

[faint sand]

What would be a pair of wireless headphones thats good for gaming thats not really expensive

[terse river]

why would u need wireless

[faint sand]

I just prefer them

[broken grotto]

audeze maxwell idk

[warm scarab]

i think thats expensive

[green marsh]

fractal scape is aight

[warm scarab]

within the category of gaming headphones

[green marsh]

if you want something with a decent mic apparently the razer blackshark stuff has the best

[terse river]

opinions on everyday wireless headsets for commute

rn im just going on airpod maxxes ig but idk

[warm scarab]

idk honestly

i just vibe with in ears

headsets dont sound significantly better typically so i dont justify buying them and taking more space

[terse river]

alr, i cant really stand wearing in ears so idk then lol

[warm scarab]

mx4 or 5 could be better than the maxxes honestly

max is kinda lackluster

or bose qc45 but you'll probably have to rma it every 5 months

[sleek lily]

Lmao

Surprisingly, a lot of people in the hobby think engineering and math isn't objective

[broken grotto]

is your expensive the same color as my expensive, or is mine just priced in a different hue?

[warm scarab]

not expensive as in there are different economical groups

expensive as in thats literally one of the most expensive gaming headphones you can buy

[broken grotto]

fair enough lol

i honestly never buy gaming gear so i really don't know

I did order the maxwells though just out of curiosity

also i like Audeze

[green marsh]

lcd gx enters the conversation

[broken grotto]

i have that one!

i like it

never use the mic tho

[zenith pawn]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/1n5zey9/this_is_the_ugliest_speaker_ive_ever_seen/

who wants the brutalist speaker

[warm scarab]

people who pay 4k for brutalism ig

a lot of millionaires overpay a property by like 10 million usd for well executed brutalism

I can see them paying 4k for a speaker

[unique wind]

if it's actually a good speaker then i would be interested if i was rich

just because it looks interesting

[green marsh]

nah wtf 💀

no way that thing measures well

[zenith pawn]

the real question is does it sound well

[lean grove]

I don't think anyone is buying this speaker because it sounds good

[green marsh]

i bet it sounds brutal

[frosty ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462871454384390144/1412244746293739572/20250901_181317_1.mp4

[faint sand]

Anyone know why my barracuda x randomly distorts audio?

[hardy mica]

i remade a song

but it clips even if i had a compresser

[hardy mica]

never gonna give you up is 8D??

[hardy mica]

volume or the audio your playing is not using a supported encoder which the speaker accepts

or too high bitrate

[faint sand]

How would I fix that

[hardy mica]

compress the audio by using something on the web

[faint sand]

Ok

[hardy mica]

make sure to use mp3 or m4a only, wav is known for being buggy sometimes

[sick terrace]

are you using an eq?

you might be clipping 0dbfs

[zenith pawn]

very sus 2d balls animator
giving troll advice
hmmmm

[abstract fox]

Anyone have good recs for 100$ US headset

It’s not for me
For a friend
I don’t have experience with headsets

[dull trout]

eh how come having higher bitrate distort sound lol

having high bitrate with good sample size is exactly what makes audio sound great

*minus mastering but still

[dull trout]

file type has no influence to the analog side tho

it only has during digital conversion

and even then using wav/flac/m4a/mp4/mp3 would do so little to distort audio

[hardy mica]

wav gets very loud if it isnt rendered properly

[hardy mica]

not this time

but nice speculation 😎

[sick terrace]

you're referring to 32 bit wavs i assume

32 bit clipping should rarely be an issue, if at all. i'm all but certain that the distortion is coming from an eq boost in the razer software that's pushing the audio above 0dbfs

[zenith pawn]

if the heapdhone doesn't support a certain codec, I'm pretty certain it should just not work

or not even let you select it as an option

but this is unrelated to the codec used of the file you're playing

therefore it only matters if your CPU is overloaded

[zenith pawn]

it doesn't, idek what they're talking about

[dull trout]

that only really happens on very specific scenarios

for someone using a normal player using a very normal headphone, it shouldnt even be an issue

and why would you assume someone with barracuda x use wav file in the first place

heck the barracuda x on 2.4ghz only ever goes 16bit anyway

bro didn even state what he was doing when audio gets distorted

could be gaming for all we know

cant really change source file there lol

[zenith pawn]

what are you playing/listening to when it happens? can you describe how the distortion sounds like? how is it connected to your computer (wireless dongle? Bluetooth? Wired?)

[hardy mica]

this is the one thing that i know

[dull trout]

couldve asked about razer software

that changes a lot of things

[zenith pawn]

and also are you using any software to change your audio

idk how exactly the Razer software works

does it have stuff built in

[glass vessel]

you can rip an SACD??

i thought they made it impossible

well that isn’t speicial
teenager me can hear 17k usably within song (so a low pass filter remiving stuff above would barely be noticed), but 20k is barely audible if i test a slow downward sweep at a reasonable volume (so also hearing 5k right after without lowering volume)
BUT
if i just blast my ears at a high frequenccy (i dont even think that’s safe), i was able to get 21k no problem

although that 1k increase from 20k to 21k is kinda surprising considering how bad the hearing drops off

[glass vessel]

one equation
nabla F = J

hella necropost

[frosty ocean]

You need one of a specific models of Blu-Ray Player. You can get them at Goodwill for like 10 dollars. Then you put a USB stick in them that has a payload that makes it be able to send the files over the network. And you run a program on your PC to ask for those files over the network

[civic beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/barackobama-talks-press-con-maybe-classified-gif-11864017

https://www.psaudio.com/blogs/copper/down-the-rabbit-hole-of-sacd-ripping-and-dsd-extraction

[lone flame]

nah

pretty easy to hear imo

people just go get their ears cleaned

[glass vessel]

ragebait lol

[lone flame]

what a little bit of earwax can do to hearing

[glass vessel]

it really works for bass extension but definitely ot treble

[lone flame]

wha?

[glass vessel]

if you see the ear’s FR graph, you see just how badly it drops off o the high end

[lone flame]

well yeah

also. Earwax absorbs ALOT of treble

[glass vessel]

even a 1kHz difference makes it go from clearly audible to unhearable

[glass vessel]

but you clean out the earwax and run into the exacct same problem just a few hundred hertz later

[lone flame]

not really

my record in hearing was 22.5kHz

was pretty quiet but also really uncomfy

21.5kHz where pretty easy to hear but god is that painful

but again
people should get their ears clenaed

some haven't for years lol

and if earwax starts building up it will absorbs alot of shit

[glass vessel]

i mean that sounds kinda impossible due to the strong rolloff
that you go from an already very rough 21.5 to a 22.5

[lone flame]

some people get born with 6 fingers

[glass vessel]

oh wait you right that genuinely ould be it

as in differnt FR

[lone flame]

it says the AVERAGe human can hear 20Hz to 20kHz

also i dont get it why "under 20Hz" is not audible

[glass vessel]

well i was going by how steeply the required volume for perception increased on the treble extension end
i kinda already accepted the ending frequency could be shifted left/right for individual variation but didn’t consider the acctual steepness could be different. so i guess it hardly ever is, but it might happen sometimes like with 6 fingers

[lone flame]

like. how one headsphone can sound different on lots of different heads

although this isn't much for a headphone cut HD800/s are very consostend

[glass vessel]

yeah

i definitely think this kind of individual variation applies muh less than other things which we discussed but ig it happens

[warm scarab]

if you are having to turn up the volume to the point it hurts your ears to notice, you aren't "hearing" that frequency

[glass vessel]

well i could still comfortably hear 21k if i didn’t have marching band as sousaphone right in front of percussion section 😭
now moved on to trumpet section which is safer but damage already done and can only comfortably do 19.5 or so

[lone flame]

not really loud

its just that 18kHz + just sounds awfully painful

really uncomfortable

everytime my hear 21kHz / 21.5kHz im ducking my head

like a snail does it with their eyes

but also

i wouldn't really care if my DAC or AMP has 5dB more at 21kHz

[glass vessel]

dang but i jsut find it crazy or even unbeliuevable that at a constant volume, you already hurt at 18k and somehow still ccan hear 22k
i dont hurt at 20k and can hear it but at 21k it’s already gone

[glass vessel]

so you’re ruining your ears. try setting the exact wsame volume to 5kHz and see how your ears fare

[lone flame]

right now. 22kHz is not possible

bcs earwax diff

my earcanals are wierdly shaped ans pretty small

[glass vessel]

mmmmmmmmmm still sounds CRAZY

[lone flame]

so there is NO way that my earwax can escape by its own

thats why i HAVE to get my ears clened like 3-4 times a year

[sleek lily]

Just shower and earwax gone

[lone flame]

Also that my ears get infected out of nowhere ALOT

[lone flame]

doesnt work

water will get stuck in my ear

[sleek lily]

Shower better

[lone flame]

Water is the enemy of my ear

[warm scarab]

just take a bath

[lone flame]

i do

but i clean my head differently

bcs Water in Ear = Ear infection

[warm scarab]

it fucking sucks when you dip your head

[lone flame]

bcs water gets trapped

[warm scarab]

all ear wax goes right against the eardrum

but I do it regardless

[lone flame]

i dont dip my head luckly

i just use the shower head

my ears are just really wierd xD

[glass vessel]

ngl bro this earwax stuff sounds liek trolling. it does matter but you make it sound like you can do huge changw with it and kinda are ridiculous for talking about ear cleaning technique :kekw:

[lone flame]

espacially earcanal

[lone flame]

do you know how much earwax i have?

💀

[glass vessel]

bro it can’t be this important

[lone flame]

when my ears are freshly cleaned it sound like a high shelf at 16kHz that is +5-10dB

[glass vessel]

nothing inherently wrong with what you’re saying but it’s a huge stretch

[glass vessel]

yeah that’s nothing. a few hundred hertz gained after the steep rolloff

[sleek lily]

I could only heat between 20 and 45hz until I cleaned the voices out of my ears

[celest galleon]

i hope you are seeing a docotr about this.
unless you have a special condition, it is never recommended to clean your ears manually, as 1. earwax is important and 2. unless you have a special condition, like cauliflower ears (and even then it works 9/10 cases), your ears should be able to clean themselves and stay at a constant healthy level if you leave them to do their thing for a while

[lone flame]

im a regular customere at my ear doc xD

[celest galleon]

ah yikes

[lone flame]

3-4 times a year

[celest galleon]

then dont mind me and i hope you wil lfidn a solution at some point

[sleek lily]

Insurance having head a

[lone flame]

no solution there

[lone flame]

nah

its germany

[celest galleon]

as someone who's nose doesnt do the job of cleaning itself properly i feel ya xD

[lone flame]

so i just go there. give them my card, they do the stuff
and i go out again with my card

[celest galleon]

na hallöchen ^^

[lone flame]

0€

statutory health insurance

[glass vessel]

i mean a 5 - 10dB gain at treble sounds believable with ears cleaned
but im saying it’ll only get you a few hundred hertz and not 4kHz more range

[lone flame]

can just say what i experience

and hear

when my ears get cleaned. stuff like this shit comes out
(Pic can look disgustin cuz earwax)

[glass vessel]

dam that’s a lot, but again you’ll need many tens of dB gained to gain 4kHz of range

[lone flame]

what if my rolloff is just later?

here my hearing test from 20. january 2025

[glass vessel]

then, while you ccan still hear 22kHz with a big struggle like you do in reality, you would not struggle at 21kHz

your only logical explanation is that your rolloff is MUCH MUCH MUCH less steep than normal people

[lone flame]

left side the treble is explainable.
didn't knew i had to press a button when i start hearing something

[glass vessel]

so much that it sounds hard to believe

[lone flame]

22.5kHz was a little struggle

22khz not really

[glass vessel]

i thought you said you hurt at 18k

[lone flame]

meant with hearing the frequency

[glass vessel]

i mean if you went from 22k being not a struggle, 22.5 being a bit hard, and 23k being inaudible, then that makes perfecct sense

[lone flame]

22.5kHz was a bit harder but everything under it was pretty easy

[lone flame]

23khz was dead silence

also

idk if it was DAC diff

[glass vessel]

yeah that makes sense
but were you or were you not having an easy time at 22k cause before you said you were dying at 18k due to how loud it was

[lone flame]

i have it on 48kHz

and they roll off at 22.5kHz

[glass vessel]

oh

[lone flame]

but idc

[glass vessel]

yeah

[lone flame]

as long as i can hear 20Hz to 20kHz im happy

[glass vessel]

.

[lone flame]

well yeah

[glass vessel]

so you werent dying at 18k?

[lone flame]

nono i did

its just so insanly unpleasant

[glass vessel]

but how though

[lone flame]

prob sensitive to treble

thats how like every EQ looks of mine

thats HD800s

[glass vessel]

how abiut you keep the same volume and switch it to a midrange frequency. see if you’re dying even more. if inconclusive and brave, try ~5k

[lone flame]

5K is fine

3K kills me

i have an eargain problem

can't wear IEMs bcs of that

[glass vessel]

?

sorry thats on me for not understanding

[lone flame]

imagine +15dB at 3-5kHz

when you wear in ears

bcs you can't wear them properly

[glass vessel]

ah

but shouldnt matter so much

[lone flame]

like either they hit the "wall" that is there

or just a lose wear lol

[lone flame]

my Truthear Hexa EQ

[stuck bolt]

[dapper dome]

Any ideas why these ft1's sound like they're going through some heavy compression?

They don't really sound right

[lean grove]

What headphones are you used to before the ft1

And what are they plugged into

[dapper dome]

I used the m50x for 10 years, my brother daily drove the dt770 so I've listened to it quite a bit, 6xx I've sampled from other friends, daily drove airpods pros-

All of the above either ran through the standard Apple USB-C cable or a small schitt amp

Currently, these are plugged into my front audio jack on my PC (Where they sound the best atm), they sound more compressed using the old USB-C adapter I was using prior

Theoretically it could be old/bad, but I kinda doub it considering it almost never gets touched

I believe the Schiit amp is the Magni, unsure though

[lean grove]

Fair to say that the m50x is what you're most accustomed to, right?

[dapper dome]

tossup between the m50x's and the airpods, but yeah I've listened to the m50x's forever

m50xs significantly longer but probably less frequently as of the past 3 ish years

It sounds like what happens when theres a mismatch in sound format.

So, could be a windows thing? I haven't tried them on my iPhone yet but I probably could.

[lean grove]

Maybe maybe not. If you plug the m50x back in and the compression stays, that would be a good indicator that it's a Windows thing

Or try the ft1 on a different device like a phone with a single

[dapper dome]

m50x's do not have the compression

Holy cow are the uncomfortable in comparison to the ft1 tho lmao

[lean grove]

Well theyve for that going for them at least.

How long have you been using the ft1's?

[dapper dome]

I just got them setup, so maybe 20-30 ish minutes

[lean grove]

Give your ears some time to adjust. Listen to as much music/video/gaming as you can.

You might just be used to the way that the m50x's sound

And your brain is expecting headphones to sound a certain way.

If you got them through Amazon you should have a decent amount of time to return them. 30 days I think but double check.

If you don't like them after a week of constant use, send em back or consider EQ'ing them.

In the meantime don't even look at the m50x

[dapper dome]

None of the other headphones I've tried have this weird compression noise, I don't think that it's just what I'm used to

[lean grove]

Is it noise?

[dapper dome]

the fact that the mids and highs are clearer on the m50x is against what I read

[lean grove]

Because compression and noise are two different things

[dapper dome]

It sounds like what happens when you mismatch Output format on a mic

say the mic is rated for 32bit 192000hz and you run it at 16 bit 44100

It sounds dull

It is more dull than my Airpods

squashed sorta

[lean grove]

The ft1 had a generous bass shelf, so in comparison the mids and highs will be lowered

[dapper dome]

I do not think that is what is causing this

[lean grove]

Try it on a different device. If it persists, then I think that's just how the ft1 sounds. And it might be a thing you can adjust to.

[dapper dome]

Different PC sounds entirely different, compression/squeezed sounding audio is gone

now to fight Windows 11

God I hate how broken things can get without anyone even touching it

[dapper dome]

Any idea what on Windows would be causing it?

I guess I could download a proper ASIO driven app instead of relying on Windows. but I feel like there should be easier solutions than that

[haughty girder]

Windows sonic?

[dapper dome]

Disabled

[haughty girder]

What's your bit depth set to?

Sorry sample rate

[dapper dome]

I've tried them all, none make any difference

[haughty girder]

Not bit depth that should be fine at 16

[dapper dome]

in-fact they all sound identical

[haughty girder]

Sorry I just hopped in all ik is you got an FT1 to upgrade M50X

What dac/amp?

[dapper dome]

All gud, I'm happy to answer questions

Atm- non but I have the Usb-C Apple dongle

[haughty girder]

Eh perfectly fine

[dapper dome]

my Wife's PC sounds ten times better minimum without the Apple USB-C adapter. so it's not amp related

[haughty girder]

Oh what

Try the dongle on her PC?

Onboard audio normally has really high output impedance which can change frequency response if the impedance curve isn't flat (most dynamic drivers aren't)

[dapper dome]

It's probably fine, I think it's my main PC driver issues

either that or it doesn't have any good audio options and these headphones are making it show harder

my wife's PC has a nicer case so 🤷‍♂️

[haughty girder]

Got anything like EQAPO, Dolby, Nahimic, etc. running?

[dapper dome]

Not atm

[haughty girder]

Hmmm

Can you try the Apple dongle on a phone or smth?

[dapper dome]

I'm gonna run the stock Realtek Audio drivers for this mobo and see if that changes it

[haughty girder]

See if that changes anything

[dapper dome]

I misplaced my lightning to 3.5 adapter so I can't atm, I may be-able to digup a hifi bluetooth DAC but those wont solve my problem really

I feel like if they sound great on my wife's PC it's at least my main PC issue more than the headphones themselves

and the fact they sound the same with/without the Apple Dongle makes me double down on my assumption

Although these are so insanely comfortable in comparison to my m50x’s that I may want my bluetooth dongle to wear these around the house lmao

[haughty girder]

Yeah windows is weird that way

Slightly unfortunate

[dapper dome]

Even the windows startup sound into w11 sounds bad

Ah realtek drivers to the rescue

[haughty girder]

Did that fix things?

[dapper dome]

yeah. these are definitely way better than the m50x

yeah

[haughty girder]

LOL

[dapper dome]

I hate windows

[haughty girder]

Agreed

[dapper dome]

This is another tick to switch my daily driver to Linux. I have six servers running a variety of Linux's and it is just way less headache.

I enabled mono-audio trying to fix it, just disabled it. h o l y c o w

the difference is night and day

[haughty girder]

Well I'm glad you enjoy em!

FT1 are pretty fantastic if you're into bassier signatures

[dapper dome]

I generally do not care about the signature at all. I just had a budget of $200-$300, and needed closed back (Otherwise I 10000000% would've gone the 6xxs)

I wish I wasn't such a hoarder and could put my servers in a different room, but alas- here I am drowning out fan noise

[lean grove]

Glad that it got fixed. And good that you know what mismatched sample rates sounds like otherwise it woulda been a painful week of adjusting to the sound of broken drivers.

[dapper dome]

I just straight up would have returned them. I wouldn’t have coped

I knew I needed to try a second device

I do think an Amp would help… but do I really need to spend another $150-$200? 😅😂

[lean grove]

The ft1 are remarkably easy to power so you don't need anything too fancy. Something with low noise and a low output impedance would be ideal. So a basic dongle should suffice.

If you look up a cx31993 dongle you should get about a dozen options for $20
I'm a big fan of the fosi ds1 for $80.

Or a type c apple dongle. Or use an interface if you have one.

Or if you want something fancier with an actual volume knob, get a fiio k11 for $140

[lone flame]

FT1 are simply awesome

No but. Just awesome

Earpads are only 10 bucks too

[dapper dome]

I was very very concerned I had gotten a bad pair when I first plugged them in

But nah, windows drivers smh

they are indeed very very nice

[lone flame]

Windows diff xD

[dapper dome]

Soooooo muhc more comfortable than the m50xs

I forgot how hard I was coping with those

[lone flame]

That for sure lol

FT1 created some nice air and pressure in the market

Out of nowhere they dropped. Swept away competition.
Probably fiios most sold headphone lol

Like. It was out of stock for like an year

Every batch was sold out within days xD

[dapper dome]

I’m thankful my m50x’s lasted as long as they did, maybe this time I’ll replace the ear pieces before they go to crap though

especially for $10/pair

I may actually buy a few spare just incase

[lone flame]

My LCD 2C earpads are 105€....

So 122 USD

[dapper dome]

Also, you undersold the noise dampening on these a tad they’re a lot better than the m50x.

Possibly because my m50x’s never got a good seal because my ears are massive

these still sit on my earlobes

[lone flame]

Well

FT1 has probably better fit and sit on your head

So it's sealing now

=bASS

[shadow stag]

hey, creative pebbles v3 are good?

[lone flame]

For that price ye

[shadow stag]

ah i see, are there better ones?

[lone flame]

Edifier MR3 or MR4

[shadow stag]

any gotchas?

as far as small desktop speakers that have the most packed in?

[lone flame]

MR3 are imo small

[shadow stag]

oh i see

[lone flame]

But WAY larger than pebbles

[shadow stag]

right

[lone flame]

You can search up the size

[shadow stag]

thanks

[lone flame]

👌💪👍

[lone flame]

Have fun

[dapper dome]

Any ideas why it would sound better yet plugged directly into a Mac Book pro via USB-C adapter?

Does apple just have that much better sound than my arguably old PC case? Lmao

[sleek lily]

Make your own

[broken grotto]

macbook's and apple stuff is actually really good.

apple spends a lot of time with design validation, it's one thing i really respect about apple.

everything i've seen from them is electrically clean and well thought out, despite some hardware issues they've had over the years.

[dapper dome]

Apple should make a $300 amp

[terse river]

can anybody help me decide between sony xm4/xm5 or senn momentum 4

i can get the first two for 135/145 and the senn for 180

i like the look of sennheisere more but thats where my expertise ends

[broken grotto]

I didn't really like the XM4's I had, but i can't disagree the noise cancellation is next level if that's what you're after.

[terse river]

why didn't you like them

[broken grotto]

I didn't find them that comfortable to wear, nor was I really a fan of the sound; i think they're generally regarded as "having alotta bass."

[verbal fog]

i dont think they sell wired headphones

[broken grotto]

honestly, i think that if nowadays they did, they'd probably sell pretty ok

i walk around seeing more and more wired headphones

[zenith pawn]

the built in audio on every windows desktop i've used is basically unlistenable on iems so i'd say that's pretty normal

[dapper dome]

Aight, I’ll just buy a schitt stack then

[zenith pawn]

whar

if you have apple then the built in outpout should be fine

[warm scarab]

this wont solve the issue

unless its the iem specific amp which is a stupid asf buy tbh

[dapper dome]

Probably stupid asf buy

https://www.schiit.com/products/modi-plus

https://www.schiit.com/products/magni-unity

[warm scarab]

please dont

literal waste of money

[dapper dome]

So whats the recommendation

[warm scarab]

apple usb c

[dapper dome]

Apple usb-c dongle didn’t resolve my audio issues entirely. As I mentioned prior above, the best quality I got out of the ft1’s was using the dongle on my Wife Macbook pro

so either I replace my PCs motherboard or get a DAC

Audio drivers solved about 85-90% of my audio issues with the ft1s

[warm scarab]

get the cx dongle nils mentioned

[dapper dome]

The schitt stack is $120 for the pair off of a friend

$260 retail give or take

[warm scarab]

if you want go ahead, i still think its a very unnecessary purchase

definitely couldnt justify buying any of this for a ft1

[dapper dome]

I feel like the cx dongle would fix my issues, I just also think this is a probably more flexible long term solution

[warm scarab]

it wont be

[dapper dome]

What else would be?

[warm scarab]

id buy a zen can for long term solution if you really do plan on upgrading

[dapper dome]

Shoot me a link

[warm scarab]

but i still think its a stupid buy if you arent set on your next headphones already

no

google ifi zen can

[dapper dome]

😅

[dapper dome]

Probably so, I’m sure it isn’t and wont be the last arguably stupid purchase of my life though

I do not need anything even ft1 levels of quality, I don’t need any of this or almost any of the tech I have

I am fairly certain my powerbill for the random servers and PC hardware alone is more than the collective purchase of these, even if I also bought another set of headphones and or the ifi zen can

I’ll get the cx dongle and see how it plays and bug the friend about the schitt stack later

[lone flame]

no measuring rig here

[lone flame]

Macnbook DAC/AMPs are outstanding for onboard

they perform straight up good.

so yes. its normal that your macbook has better audio than your PC

[dapper dome]

booooo

I hate how good Apple is at almost everything anymore

[lone flame]

well

[dapper dome]

I’m 90% crapposting. I’m not at all surprised, I just wish I spent extra on a motherboard now

The devil is in the details

[lone flame]

nah

wont do much

atleast for onbaord audio

[dapper dome]

Brb gonna go buy a scrapyard pcie audio card from 2007

[lone flame]

nono

no internal audio hardware pls

[dapper dome]

I am slightly confused about the poor performance even with the Apple dongle on my system. Is the cause essentially just horribly “dirty” power?

[lone flame]

every usb connector there?

bcs some are not designed to have "high power out"

[dapper dome]

Pretty much yeah, doesn’t matter which one I plugged into.

Granted, most of the USB ports on my machine are type A. So double adapter, but even the usb-C specific ports sounded identical.

[lone flame]

[dapper dome]

Unfortunate, I hoped it was simple lol
oh well. I do appreciate the feedback
Especially when it’s constructive and well reasoned (You mean I shouldn’t spend more on my Dac/amp than my headphones?!?!?!)

[lone flame]

nah

you can spend as much as you want on a DAC/AMP

some people use like 3K tube amps for HD6xx

[dapper dome]

best sounding hd6xx’s out there

[lone flame]

some tube amps sound good on some headphones

[dapper dome]

just gotta gamble to findout which goes where

[lone flame]

nononno

people go somewhere and test the gear

so demoing stuff is nice

[dapper dome]

I sometimes forget most hobbies actually have tradeshows of sorts

[lone flame]

its a hobby / lifestyle tbh

depending on how much you're into it

[dull trout]

my friend with his 599se =

[lone flame]

😄

Audio is ALL about enjoyment

[dapper dome]

I am more into espresso than audio currently. Good shots with good beats would end wars

[lone flame]

so who cares about how much you spend for what.. As long as you're happy

[lone flame]

tbh

most "Audiophiles" spend money for expensive gear

but then decides to listen to absolutly terrible low quality Soundcloud Doujin Music

[zenith pawn]

wait.. different behavior with the dongle between macbook and pc?
also does the built in 3.5mm on the macbook sound any differnt than the dongle