audio-tech

[plush oracle]

get a 100 inch

mutch better

[glad creek]

Doesn't really exist with oled, I'll get a 77"

[plush oracle]

im very tempted to put 2 subs and surrond sound in my livingroom/kitchen

[glad creek]

I plugged in my second sub, diagonally placed from the first

Sound is so much better

[stuck bolt]

Get some acoustic panels for your room, there are very tasteful looking ones out there

[plush oracle]

uh oh

[glad creek]

It's planned, I'm the guy who went to your serv to ask for advices

I'm just still lost lmao

[stuck bolt]

Ah I remember now

[plush oracle]

how dumb would it be putting surrond sound in my bedroom at my desk

[glad creek]

But it's expensive and my brother has problems and I need to lend him 3000€..... ><><><><><

So yeah, let's say it's on hold

I also want a new center speaker
(and TV, and monitor for my desktop andddddd.... )

[stuck bolt]

[plush oracle]

[glad creek]

Tbf surround isn't thaaaaat great, I'd rather first have really clean stereo speakers+subs + treatment + room correction first

[stuck bolt]

I want someone crazy enough to pay me to build them a pair

[plush oracle]

i wanna get it to piss my brother off who is next door to my room

[glad creek]

My brother is 41 years old and has two daughters that may be around your age sooo

(I'm not that old)

[stuck bolt]

Define old.

[glad creek]

27

Older than me = old

[stuck bolt]

I'm turning 24 in a couple weeks lol 😆

[plush oracle]

i got dark grey and lighter grey walls so i might get some sound panels

[plush oracle]

nice

[plush oracle]

not that old

omg its too hot

its 25 celcius in my room

[glad creek]

BTW this little guy is an absurdity of a beast of a power amplifier

3E audio A7 running as a power amp (knob and pre amp disabled)

[plush oracle]

wub wub wub

[glad creek]

And if I need one day more power it can run mono and double the power output

While being perfectly stable at 2 Ohms, which is not that common at all and really important to me (reason why I bought it)

And it's low distorsion enough and clean enough for it to not be a factor at all in the sound chain

[stuck bolt]

I have plans to build a passive tower version of my speakers.

I got a crossover mostly designed as well. It's just to hit purchase once again

[plush oracle]

when im next home alone ima crank my speakers and sub

[stuck bolt]

A passive version is a but cheaper than the active amps I built

[glad creek]

If I were to diy stuff I would go down the path of using a mini dsp as crossover in the digital world then use one dac and one amp for each frequency range lmao

[stuck bolt]

Hmm, noted.

Well, I do woodworking for a living, so DIY is all I do

😆

[glad creek]

It's a bit like we do for subwoofers, but for everything

Crossover in the digital world (avr receiver) into a dac into the sub amplifier into the sub speaker

This principle for every other frequency range

[stuck bolt]

Yeah but I gotta design the crossovers points for each driver.

Right now my mid driver is playing a little too low and too soft

[plush oracle]

damit my mym said i cant bring my audio setup to germany with us

[covert saddle]

Guys

[plush oracle]

ye

[stuck bolt]

Yo

[covert saddle]

Steel series artic pro for 140 should i grab them

[stuck bolt]

What's the discount on them

[glad creek]

Yeah that seems like a lot of work

I really want high quality stuff, so I just pour money in it instead of diy things

Also my wife would kill me if it wasn't great looking

[plush oracle]

most important thing making sure the wife is happy

[stuck bolt]

[glad creek]

I'm happy too that my towers look great

[covert saddle]

50

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/steelseries-arctis-pro-wireless-dts-headphonex-v2-0-surround-sound-gaming-headset-for-ps4-and-pc-black/6595755.p?skuId=6595755&ref=212&loc=19589714089&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19589745317&gbraid=0AAAAAD-ORIgY1B4NL4C_pTmKwVJ3PqFqy

Good deal or nah

[stuck bolt]

Pretty good deal tbh

[plush oracle]

ye that is a good deal

[covert saddle]

150 dollars i dont think I can get better

Do we agree i should drive down and pick them up today

[plush oracle]

ye

[stuck bolt]

I don't see why not

I asked my sis what she thinks of the speakers, she said " they're loud in all the ways"

[plush oracle]

obviously they would be loud

[stuck bolt]

I haven't even push them past 60%

[plush oracle]

push them to 100%

[stuck bolt]

Can't, one of them has a defective power supply

[plush oracle]

oh

[stuck bolt]

Each has 2

[plush oracle]

i pushed my eris ones to 200%

technicly

[stuck bolt]

2 500 watt power supplies

[plush oracle]

they pull 1000 watts

at max

[stuck bolt]

Each

[plush oracle]

2 psu each?

[stuck bolt]

There's two amps in on speaker, one 2 cover the subs, and the other to power the 3 way.
So 2 500 watt psu

[plush oracle]

how rich are u

[stuck bolt]

Not very

I just saved

[plush oracle]

how can u afford the power bill

[stuck bolt]

It's actually a bit power efficient

They're good power supplies

[plush oracle]

i live with my parents so i dont pay any bills

[stuck bolt]

A little expensive though, at about 100 usd for one

[plush oracle]

afk

[plush oracle]

back

[plush oracle]

they sound nice

[stuck bolt]

You know when your car has an audible issue, so you just turn up the music to ignore it

That's me rn

[plush oracle]

my mums got her beeping when she reverses so loud the speaker next to me sounds like its dyeing

when i crank my mixer to much its a anoying buzzing

[stuck bolt]

[glad creek]

I don't think you ever outputted 1000W from them tbf

[warm scarab]

bro that wall clearance 💀

[glad creek]

You'd be at a hospital otherwise

[stuck bolt]

Don't worry about it

I'm waiting on some parts to build some stands

They're gonna come off the desk and go horizontal

[plush oracle]

just pull your desk from the wall a bit

[glad creek]

You probably only use 10W so eh

[plush oracle]

my speakers max is 50w sub 100w audio mixer no clue

but im broke so i went with cheep stuff

[stuck bolt]

There are ways to make cheap stuff sound good

For a few months, I was using marine speakers and a sub

[glad creek]

Well, watts is only a question of sound lvl, not quality

And without knowing the drivers sensitivity (and ohms if only watts and not V) it doesn't say anything

But to get an idea, if you send 100w in a normal speakers, which, let's say, would be 90dB/W/m (at all frequencies), you'd litteraly end up in a hospital

It's 116dB SPL at 1m ~~

[stuck bolt]

So far, I haven't managed to get them to distort

[plush oracle]

i need speakers that do that

[glad creek]

Which is more than a night club that doesn't follow regulation

[glad creek]

Mine do
And one time I put sound to the max, because we were having a "party" (not really, there is no english word for that to my knowledge, "apero" lmao) with neighboors, so we were in the square next to my house

[stuck bolt]

Hahahaa

[glad creek]

We had to enter the house (to retrieve random stuff like beers in the fridge) with headphone sound protection thingies

[plush oracle]

lol

[glad creek]

And even with that we had to press them to the ears to improve the effectiveness

and even with that it was physically disturbing

And I don't think there was more than 200W in each speaker

[plush oracle]

next time bring the fridge outside

[glad creek]

Yeah lmao

[plush oracle]

simple bring everything u need outside and dont go in the house

[stuck bolt]

Next time, invite them

[glad creek]

I have a calibrated sound pressure level meter
At 70dBFS (out of 100dBFS) on the meter you start reaching "yeah no i can't go higher that that without it being physically dangerous), it has peaks above what the meter can read

[plush oracle]

damm

[glad creek]

So yeah, all those "my speaker has 500W!!!"
Believe me if you use more than 5W on a desktop I'd already be surprised

[plush oracle]

i wonder how loud my speakers can get

[glad creek]

Usually above 90dB you start having enough distorsion that you can say "yeah it's the max"

[stuck bolt]

I've hit 110dB with headroom

[glad creek]

For instance my bookshelves speakers, which are already somewhat high end, start having too much distorsion at 96dBSPL@1m

But then the question is more about "how much distorsion can I tolerate"

[plush oracle]

fair

i might dj my school discos

[glad creek]

I know personnaly that above 5% is clearly audible and sounds really bad for any music
And my personnal treshold is 1%

Though, it depends on the frequency, since we aren't as sensible to distorsion in the basses

[plush oracle]

no clue how loud the speakers can get before they sound awfull

[glad creek]

You should measure those things

[plush oracle]

theres 4 in the hall 2 upstairs where the mixer is

[glad creek]

oh wait you said you had eris speakers ?

We can probably find information on it

[plush oracle]

i got eris ye

and numark m4 mixer

[glad creek]

Thing is, sound dispersion is quadratic

Which means is 4 times harder to make enough sound at twice the distance

Which quickly becomes a real problem for "djing" a big room like your school thingy

[glad creek]

which ones ?

[plush oracle]

4.5bt

and 8bt sub

[plush oracle]

they work well

[glad creek]

Yeah well ofc

[plush oracle]

tbf my school is rich af

[glad creek]

But quadratic things aren't natural at all for the brain

So when you can think it works well at 1m or more

Your brain won't really compute the fact that at 10m instead of 1m you need 100 times (!) the power for the same sound lvl

[plush oracle]

i gtg for like a hour cya

[glad creek]

cya

[warm scarab]

watt is only a question of how much power does this eat

or can this eat

it doesnt say anything else

this includes the sound level

[plush oracle]

back

[noble sorrel]

yall do not buy cheap aftermarket earpads for yalls headphones
i swear the soundstage became 10x worse on my dt 770 pros

i hope i just need to break these in 🙏

[warm scarab]

lol

[noble sorrel]

at least they're comfortable ig
my old earpads were very compressed, and the right one was actually falling apart lol

[verbal fog]

some cheap ish earpads do go crazy but also it depends on too much

[stuck bolt]

Earpads has the biggest change in headphone sound quality

Don't mind the dirt lol 😆

[viscid palm]

Hnnnnng trying to find wireless overears is rough

Seemingly the only pairs I was able to find that even got close to fitting my needs where The absurdly expensive Bayerdynamic ones and the momentum 3’s which I already know can’t hold up to my stupid fat head 💀

Like theirs a couple that stood out to me but some of them would just be punts, where as others it’s like, £350 for a pair of headphones that don’t look like they’ll snap when I use them and that’s the only difference

[noble sorrel]

aren't the sony WH-1000XM(4 or 5)s pretty well regarded?

[spare hearth]

yeah they are pretty good

[noble sorrel]

i got these shitty memory foam ones and it makes my headset sound like tincans ):

[viscid palm]

Yea issue is I have a tendency of breaking anything that’s even the tiniest bit flimsy so I just decided to get the V-Moda Crossfade 3ms cause the hinge point is simple and made of metal and the part that will be bent round my head when I off ear one of the sides will be the headband, which is also metal

[viscid palm]

But yea, those as well as a lot of the Bayerdynamic line where in my head at first, Bauer was too expensive same with b&w and the Sony ones have a very obvious failure point for ummm, clumsy idiots like me

[elder thistle]

I mean that is a dt770

[noble sorrel]

hey i'll have you know those tincans can sound good

[elder thistle]

but yes, high earpad thickness can cause boosted treble

and the perforated leather (but more importantly the type of memory foam) can bleed away more or less bass and mids

many advanced earpads, such as the stock ones for the beyers, have little holes in the underside of the earpads that lets some sound get sent into the foam and dissipate

but the stock ones aren't as deep

[noble sorrel]

neat, thanks for letting me know
i had no idea how the shape specifically effects the profile

[elder thistle]

ye, it's actually the main reason most open backs don't have a lot of bass

with earpad design/choices, headphone designers can tilt the frequency response between 20-1.7khz upwards or downwards like a seesaw

unfortunately most open back designs with conventional mostly sealed earpads will have quite a bass bump but also have way too much lower mids and too little upper mids (1.7k is a common area that dips)

since there isn't that many ways to balance a headphone's tone, the best course of action is typically to lose some bass for the greater good of improved balance everywhere else

[noble sorrel]

i'm hoping as i use the pads, they'll wear down and return some of that bass
but i guess time will tell

[elder thistle]

not sure

there's a point at which bass is lost from being too thick, but also a point where bass is supressed by a limiting amount of air inside the cup, as well as the ear getting more directly injected with mids and highs

I suspect you will lose treble but also lose bass as they wear down

but before that happens you'll probably be very used to how they sound

so it should still feel like the bass went up

[covert saddle]

guys

I got steel series artic pro

Do I need to get a sound card to plug optical cable

or there isn't much difference

if I don't use optical cable

[lean grove]

USB should be fine.

[covert saddle]

can't use DTS Headphone:X

i'll save up for a sound card

[lean grove]

The box that comes with an arctis pro is a sound card

if you need optical you can just buy a converter

[covert saddle]

[covert saddle]

hdmi to optical out

or

usb to optical out

[lean grove]

usb seems easier, doesnt it?

[covert saddle]

doesn't usb have usb noise and interference

[lean grove]

👍

[covert saddle]

[main citrus]

Hey guys do you know a good refrence of headphone with anc for about 100€ second hand

Inwas think of the sony wh1000 xm4

[solid dirge]

Debating between moondrop chu II or a replacement Space Travel TWS (lost my old pair, might still have them though somewhere), don't want latency but also my Chu Is broke after about a year

[plush oracle]

@stuck bolt

[stuck bolt]

Yes

[plush oracle]

is it bad i got a sub in a where a draw goes and its pretty hot

[stuck bolt]

Huh?

[plush oracle]

so i got a sub where a draw goes

and my sub pretty hot

[stuck bolt]

Like the amp for the sub or the driver itself

[plush oracle]

the back of it

forgot what its called

[stuck bolt]

The amp plate or heat sink

Huh, perhaps. You can get a cheap pc fan to aid in cooling if you're concerned

[plush oracle]

amp plate

[plush oracle]

well its been there for a month on 24/7 havnt had a problem yet

[stuck bolt]

It should be fine, but again, if you're concerned, adding a fan wouldn't hurt

[plush oracle]

ye

also it will be off for a week soon

[wintry mirage]

why is one specific song so much louder than every single other song

like there is just one song that when i play it at the same volume it is obviously louder

its not like its just because of the file format because its louder on spotify and downloaded

its on my headphones, and all my speakers

[lean grove]

Probably mastered poorly

[wintry mirage]

its setting sun by the chemical brothers

[lean grove]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

[wintry mirage]

its not a small song

[warm scarab]

yeah loudness wars is an industry movement

popular pieces are more likely suffer from loudness wars than smaller ones

[wintry mirage]

that explains why it blows away all other songs at the same volume

the difference is quite noticable

other loud songs are around 96db while that one reaches up into the 99 to 100 range

[warm scarab]

try normalizing the volume

most programs should have that as an option

[wintry mirage]

i think i had that switched on at some point

its louder than my lossless files in other programs

i wonder how loud i can play before quality loss

isnt there a stat for that on the spec sheet or something

all i can find is this

[zenith pawn]

hopefully you aren't playing those songs at 96 dB on your ears

[covert basin]

Pebble V3's good? I've heard alot of good about Pebble speakers and found one nearby me for 5€

[wintry mirage]

its just 96db at 2 meters

[zenith pawn]

oh speakers

if you're playing 96 dB however far your ears are that's concerning

[wintry mirage]

no its just for some testing not prolonged

no longer than a few minutes

i have 2 wharfedale amplifiers now they seem good for the price

i like merantz more though

[zenith pawn]

oh

[wintry mirage]

i cant figure out what fuse they take is there anywhere i can find out

also it says class AB dont actually know if that is good

apparently its just a circuit breaker for when you push too much power

i think my speakers would ignite before i hit 300 watts per channel

[warm scarab]

define one

like one speaker.?

[covert basin]

One set..

[warm scarab]

2.1 or 2.0

[covert basin]

2.0

[warm scarab]

i mean

for 5€ its really good but

the woofer is a big part of what makes pebbles decent

[glad creek]

I mean for 5€ I would just ask it to make audible sound without breaking apart in 2 days

And if they work they'll do that

[covert basin]

There's other Pebble 3's for similar price

Another one for 10€ that my friend is picking up

[zinc valley]

Would you guys think the QC ultra is 100 euro better than the non ultra version?

[glad creek]

probably not

[zinc valley]

Okay thanks

[wintry mirage]

anyone know any decent headphones around £300 that are wired

it can use the 6.35mm jack

also is there something i can buy to give my amplifier a high pass filter

[zinc valley]

What will you use them for? I’m guessing something that you don’t need that good anc?

[buoyant vale]

What wired headphones have ANC?

[warm scarab]

just use eq apo

[wintry mirage]

the signal is coming from my record player

[wintry mirage]

just listening to music in my room

[warm scarab]

do you have an amplifier

[wintry mirage]

yes

it has a headphone amp in my speaker amp

[warm scarab]

oh

[wintry mirage]

its a merantz one

[warm scarab]

yeah headphone outs on speaker amps are generally not very good

high output impedance on a lot of them

[warm scarab]

marantz?

[warm scarab]

thats the power delivered for a headphone at 32ohms

not the output impedance

[wintry mirage]

it just says this

[warm scarab]

thats input not output

[warm scarab]

if you are down to buying 4 resistors and wiring them up you could make a good attenuator box to use with headphones

[wintry mirage]

im not that bothered

[warm scarab]

you should be if you want to use low impedance headphones

the impedance tends to offset the frequency response making the headphones sound a lot more different based on how low their impedance is

this for both channels

idk 5 minute soldering job if you are like really stupid

https://robrobinette.com/HeadphoneResistorNetworkCalculator.htm

[wintry mirage]

what ohm headphones do i want anyway

apparently 70 ohm headphones work well on the headphone out

[warm scarab]

you dont buy headphones based on ohms you buy them based on what sounds good

which is kind of invalidated by the fact you own a speaker amp but dont want to wire 4 resistors

i was going to recommend edition xs but there is no way you'll have good audio from them through a speaker amp headphone stage

[wintry mirage]

it says you can use up to 150 ohms

[warm scarab]

you can use

[wintry mirage]

i could get a xlr dac because half my setup is ran through xlr

[warm scarab]

doesnt mean it sounds good for all of those

its not like an 18ohm headphone detonates when you connect it to a 20ohm output

it just sounds bad

if your ultimatum is just having audio then buy whatever

but you are paying like 300£

but you dont want to put in the 10 minute effort of wiring up four items?

[wintry mirage]

is it not worth just buying a dac

i can use both my optical inputs then and have my xlr and optical outputs

and headphones

I have heard a Cambridge audio one before

[warm scarab]

a dac wouldnt fix the issue

and would cost like

somewhere between 30-2000 times more than 4 resistors

[wintry mirage]

dac headphone amp

[warm scarab]

you could

but like chief I dont understand

why are you this afraid of wiring 4 items together

but instead want to pay like 100€ minimum for a dac amp

you could spend 20 minutes of your life, learn something new and have it cost 5€ maybe

[wintry mirage]

I will use it not just with this amplifier I need a dac anyway

[warm scarab]

why do you need a dac?

outside of this subject

[wintry mirage]

Just because some of the computers I use have awful outputs

[warm scarab]

you could get an apple dongle for like

10$

and 4 resistor for 3$

[wintry mirage]

Whats a dac for then

[warm scarab]

and spend the rest of your budget on a good headphone

[warm scarab]

convers digital to analog

hence the name digital to analog converter

[wintry mirage]

Yes why would i buy one what can it improve

I was told I should get one

[warm scarab]

by who

[wintry mirage]

Richersounds

[warm scarab]

dacs are good

if you setup is like already 800$ worth

yours isnt

[wintry mirage]

Why

It hasn't gone down over half in value last time I checked

[warm scarab]

because dacs start makeing notably small changes at a minimum of around 250$

whereas you have significant improvements with headphones or amplifiers in that range

[wintry mirage]

I spent £400 i think on my amplifier

[warm scarab]

bro what the fuck

what do you have connected to that thing

[wintry mirage]

Just some 4 inch bookshelf speakers right now but I bought it so i can get better speakers i dont plan on keeping mine forever

[warm scarab]

alright

what is the model

[wintry mirage]

Merantz pm6007

[warm scarab]

moderns have better headphone output stages typicalyl

[warm scarab]

its marantz

[wintry mirage]

Yeah

Its alright seems decent

[warm scarab]

its not connected to the speaker amp its just is own thing im pretty sure

there is also zero info on the headphone amplifier's quality or output impedance

[wintry mirage]

All I could find is what I sent earlier

[warm scarab]

yeah same

its a good amplifier probably

[wintry mirage]

It seems good

[warm scarab]

well like before

id pay 10$ for the dac and 5$ for resistors and continue using that thing

it would be pretty stupid to buy another headphone amp while that thing is sitting around

[wintry mirage]

What do I do with the resistors

[warm scarab]

you do this

you put one resistor in r2 and one in r3

• is the + of your amplifier's output

it goes through the resistor and goes into your headphone

you build this for both sides of your headphone (left/right) and it attenuates audio so you can listen without noise through the speaker amplifier directly

and allows you to have a better control of the volume with the volume knob

https://robrobinette.com/HeadphoneResistorNetworkCalculator.htm

this site tells you what kind of values the resistors should have

using a resistor thats 6 ohms for r2 and 2 ohms for r3 is typically the lowest and the best option so you should try that first

just place the resistors in a box, solder them onto some wires like this and you are good to go

and maybe an xlr connector on the output side of the box so you can disconnect your headphones whenever you want

you could also do something like this

your amplifier is balanced so you cant short the ground

[wintry mirage]

ill see

[wintry mirage]

is that not for when i dont already have a headphone out

[warm scarab]

generally no

and when it is like that

generally the impedance is really high just in case the amp is noisy for whatever reason

when buying a speaker amp you buy for the speaker amp portion of it and the headphone amplifier is typically an afterthought

there are some exceptions but they are very specific

[wintry mirage]

i already use the speaker terminals

[warm scarab]

for headphones?

[wintry mirage]

no my speakers

[warm scarab]

well yeah

lol

i showed you this so that you can use it for your headphones without noise and stupid attenuation levels

[sleek lily]

Why is there a 2 ohm short between the positive and negative terminals?

That seems like way too low of an impedance

[warm scarab]

lower the better

[sleek lily]

Lower means you're gonna have more current list as heat

Because it's going to be in parallel with the driver resistance plus 6 ohms

[warm scarab]

to give the amp a load

[sleek lily]

The load should be the driver you want to make noise with though?

Goal shouldn't be to make your amp 99% inefficient

[warm scarab]

amplifiers want a load of 4, 6 or 8 ohms depending on the output

and matching that is healthier

the network gives it that load

while keeping the headphones powered

[sleek lily]

You aren't going to ever get that with a 2 ohm short

[warm scarab]

its 8 ohms dude

what do you mean lmfao

[sleek lily]

When you have any resistance in parallel with 2 ohms it will be less than 2 ohms

[warm scarab]

i think your formula is off

[sleek lily]

No

[sleek lily]

If we say there is a 200ohm headphone there

The formula would be 1/(1/2+1/(200+6))

[warm scarab]

the formula used to calculate is literally within the sources I've sent you

the entire conversation can be avoided if you just read it

[sleek lily]

I can make you a simulation of the same circuit to demonstrate this

[warm scarab]

L-pad attenuators are like

[sleek lily]

But no matter what, you can't have a resistance greater than your smallest resistance by putting resistances in parallel

[warm scarab]

what is used within 90% of the audio industry

if you think you know better than them which perhaps you do

[sleek lily]

It's like electronics 101

[warm scarab]

go commercialize it with your findings

because it means you understand the subject better than the previous tens of thousands of engineers all of which used the same circuitry for speaker amp based headphone stages

so don't preach to me

preach to them

[sleek lily]

Oh wait, it's using the XLR as the input?

Not the output

Is that what's going on?

If so, still not the best way to go about the deaign

[warm scarab]

xlr goes to the headphones

and the resistors are on the end of the speaker terminals

[sleek lily]

But it at least will result in impedance being greater than 6 ohms instead of less than 2

[sleek lily]

Yea, it changes the equation to 6+1/(1/2+1/headphone)

Which still imo is a bad inefficient design

But would work

[warm scarab]

what design would be efficient

and be capable of handling a load efficiently ranging from 18 to 600 ohms

[sleek lily]

Design the amplifier to handle that range of loads

[warm scarab]

this is meant for an existing speaker amplifier

not building an amplifier

[sleek lily]

If you can't do that, design the amplifier to have some sort of switch that changes the gain circuit if it has a higher impedance load on the headphone out

Cause even with this circuit, you're losing almost all your power as heat

[warm scarab]

well yeah

what about it

id be concerned if i had a class A

[lean grove]

I wouldn't be. In the end it's a few watts.

I know you Europeans pay something like 50 cents per kw/h but that's barely anything

[warm scarab]

tragic waste of money

you know you'd have a lamborghini by now if you didnt spend that much...

similar to smokers

[lean grove]

The real tragic waste of money is everyone's mom in Europe having a thermomix

[warm scarab]

what is a thermomix

[lean grove]

What do you even do with that

[warm scarab]

i dont think its as widespread as you think man

[lean grove]

Oh I forgot you're eastern European

Yeah don't worry the trend will make it's way to you in like 10 years

[warm scarab]

im not even in europe 99% of the time to be fair

[warm scarab]

but ive not seen any in germany either

though then again ive not been in many peoples kitchen ig

[lean grove]

Where do you go in Germany? Munich?

[vivid lagoon]

its popular af in upper middle class germany

[lean grove]

Yeah if Klaus spends all his time in Munich I'm not surprised.

[warm scarab]

I was in koln

my dad doesnt work there anymore so its been years since ive lived there though

[sleek lily]

I am probably going to make my own circuit to let me generate my own digital serial pcm signal without needing to code anything

Specifically so I can test different DAC chips linearity per step

Because I don't think many of the popular audio ones actually publish that

[warm scarab]

isnt that what hqplayer was made for

[sleek lily]

It'd be a pain to prove my USB data bus, but does that let you program things like a modulo 1 or modulo 2 or 3 output in binary to the dac?

[warm scarab]

no it just overlays/writes pcm filters onto your dac

depends on how the dac was made

some dacs you can completely bypass the pcm filters

some you cannot and you just have the pcm filters from hqplayer also apply on top

some you cant do either

[sleek lily]

I need to have control over the actual binary output @warm scarab

[warm scarab]

i dont know

probably not

[sleek lily]

@warm scarab Like I need to test if the output is 1V_RMS more with a 4 bit input of 0001 vs 0000 if it's the same 1V_RMS more at the input 1100 vs 1011

(obviously most dacs will be like 16 or 32 but and not 4 but but I'm making it simple for the example)

[warm scarab]

yeah i understand what you mean but ive never needed to do this, i dont know what applications and whether hqplayer can be used for this

[sleek lily]

I'll just build my own logical circuit for it

@warm scarab I bet you at some point someone who doesn't understand measurements axis or variables will complain to me "that's just frequency response" lol

[warm scarab]

if someone doesnt understand it

then its frequency response

[sleek lily]

Happens any time I mention anything that requires real thought in an audio space

@warm scarab I made a ton of people mad not too long ago by using an oscilloscope to measure behaviors because they thought it's the same thing as frequency response for some reason.

Audio space really needs an actual abet accredited engineering degree. Too many software techs running around pretending to be engineers with 0 physics or electronic experience.

[warm scarab]

legally speaking I am certified audio engineer

this somehow makes me know everything better than anyone else

@lean grove can confirm

we live in a clown world

[lean grove]

Can confirm he's sent me many sounding videos

[warm scarab]

im a sounding expert

[glad creek]

Tbf once you dig a bit it becomes really complex really fast

Especially with speakers where room and distance starts to matter

[unique wind]

class d gang

[livid hollow]

whats the point of pre amplifying

while equalizing

[buoyant vale]

It is so you don't clip

[glad creek]

There is max digital lvl due to quantization
To simplify let's say the max digital lvl is 0dB
If you have a frequency at -2dB and you boost it by 3dB you are at 1dB, but the max lvl is 0dB => you are clipping / reducing your dynamic range

So what you do is reduce everything by 3dB (or more precisetly the max of what you boosted), then your frequency you want to boost is now at -5dB, you boost it to -2dB and you don't reach 0dB and thus don't digitally clip

Now everything is 3dB lower, so you need to increase the volume on the real physical pre-amplifier, which is usually in your physical amplifier

[livid hollow]

thanks

[sleek lily]

preamplifying isnt to fix quantization errors

preamping doesnt add any data, nor should it fix digital clipping unless a dac is completely designed wrong around handling its MSB

@livid hollow to answer your question, part of the reason people do it is to split the load between two amplifiers, adjust the input voltage to a more appropriate spec going into their main amplifier, or to add the nuances of say a tube stage while having another stage to handle most of the actual added amplitude. there are also people who do it with no real reason in mind besides more means better to them. Some people also do it to gain features for volume control and such from one of the amps along the chain.

some people might even do it just cause they own another amp and they dont want to put it in storage

[distant arch]

hello people, i was wondering what you guys would recommend for a mic for a pc set up i play games (im just using it for discord and like roblox 🌝) but im looking for something simple and around $50 or under for a mic
if u reply please reply with a @ to me i dont check this much

[civic beacon]

I recommend a headset with a good mic built-in

[distant arch]

i don’t really like headsets that’s why i just want a mic 😭

[civic beacon]

Then something from Blue! aka Logitech would likely do fine for your budget.

[distant arch]

ohh okay

[civic beacon]

Friends have the Snowball. It sounds great for its price. https://www.logitechg.com/en-ca/products/streaming-gear/snowball-ice-usb-microphone.988-000070.html

[distant arch]

okay thank u so much!

[warm scarab]

fifine t669

snowball is like

outdated by 10 years

[zenith pawn]

bro never reads before going "um acktually"

they are talking about a digital preamp, likely inside the same equalizer software right next to the eq settings

[civic beacon]

While true, also... (but also also, whatever works for one's budget is fine too.) https://www.reddit.com/r/podcasting/comments/17qvrp5/made_a_mistake_and_bought_the_fifine_t669_now_im/

[sleek lily]

Ah, my bad @glad creek @livid hollow . I am not used to people referring to preamping as a digital thing. I'm used to it referring to the use of an amplifier being used before the primary amplifier in a chain, so I thought that was the question. Sorry about the confusion.

[livid hollow]

dw

[warm scarab]

user error

if you dont know how to use a mic most mics will do that

[glad creek]

Usually people don't tune the input gain and put their mic far away

[zenith pawn]

Maybe it makes a small difference somehow? Otherwise why are people saying they switched to a dynamic mic and it fixed the issues. Did they accidentally place the dynamic mic closer and not notice

[warm scarab]

because dynamics are way less sensitive

so you have to put them closer to get them to the same volume

and that makes them indirectly fix the issue

[zenith pawn]

and they don't know about the gain knob?

[warm scarab]

yes they dont

if dynamic mics shipped with preamps that set them on the same volume at same distances as condensers

people would be complaining about the lack of noise rejection

[zenith pawn]

that's funny

[glad creek]

"Wouldn't" you meant?

[warm scarab]

well they would be complaining about the lack of noise rejection in the dynamic mics

[glad creek]

Oh okay yeah

I read that in reverse

[warm scarab]

yeah i didnt do a good job explaining

[glad creek]

No no it's me I switched the words condenser and dynamic in your sentence lmao

But yeah I totally agree

And I've helped countless times people with that, telling them they should put the mic sub 5cm from their mouth and reduce the gain

And that because of this getting a good mic arm is super interesting

[sleek lily]

My next couple semesters will be aids

Lots of 4 hour classes in a 4 class schedule

[wintry mirage]

is there any decent audio streaming platforms better than spotify worth subscribing to

i saw qobuz but ive never heard of it

[zinc rain]

Apple Music is noticeably better quality

[wintry mirage]

i dont use apple devices though does that matter

[zinc rain]

idk tbh

[wintry mirage]

i usually just buy the music

[warm scarab]

youtube music

they have a larger library

aside from that nothing much

they might also have a better algorithm being yt and all

[wintry mirage]

i dont care that much about the songs on youtube

its only a few select songs i listen to on there

[warm scarab]

okay

then define being better than spotify

what aspect fits into this criteria

[wintry mirage]

just better audio quality

and better pay to the creators

[warm scarab]

just dont

its not a quality difference you can notice without trying to actively abx for 5-10 mins

stay with whatever is convenient

paying for lossless streaming is a meme

[wintry mirage]

i listened to spotify for 132k minutes last year

[warm scarab]

cool

[wintry mirage]

i would get a lot of use out of it

[stuck bolt]

I got an android and I use apple music..

Well mainly because I got a mac as well

When I wanna just jam to music for quick min or while I'm working, Spotify, but when I wanna sit and enjoy music. Apple music

[warm scarab]

dont get gaslit into thinking apple music sounds better alyx

same thing

[civic beacon]

This. Especially if you're using a "lossless" service to listen on any device using Bluetooth. (Last I checked, even with the highest quality Bluetooth codecs, there is still some loss.)

[zenith pawn]

I imagine the loss adds together, but even then its two layers of very tiny loss

[glad creek]

@wintry mirage I've used tidal and liked it better than spotify

It also has better sound quality, but to hear it you need to have really high end gear and listen to music well recorded and have the music itself take advantage of that (some genre of musics just profits better from better sourcr quality)

But I believe that now Spotify has lossless "hi-fi" stuff now? If yes then the difference should be even smaller

[wintry mirage]

I see people talking about how airpods have lossless but there is no way they can hear that surely

[zenith pawn]

only on the vision pro

[hidden meadow]

You got to use what you have, and for me that's 2,5mm² solid core copper wire😂

[wet elk]

you mean it isn't gold plated and shielded in 5 layers of titanium and lead ;P

[zenith pawn]

the lead is from the failed soldering jobs of the souls before you

[fierce yacht]

Okay, so I have a question. I have this new reciever and trying to get things setup in the most correct way possible: Denon AVR-X1700H 7.2

My question is around hooking up the Zone 2 speakers for party time when we are playing pool and such. I would like to be able to turn zone 2 off for movies and watching things. But for parties having it play by the pool table would be ideal.

I assume I should hook up the speakers like normal, then for the Zone 2 speakers get another amp for them and use the pre out for zone 2?

[halcyon acorn]

Page 50 in your manual.

[livid shadow]

Thanks sparks you da best

[halcyon acorn]

Surround Backs are repurposed as Zone 2, then you have to define that in the interface as it instructs

[fierce yacht]

So basically I have to use 5.1 not 7.1 to get thosse two working

[halcyon acorn]

You can probably do something with the Heos system and wireless speakers, maybe, that would not require using up 2 channels on the main zone

but that would require more looking

Pretty good manual if you haven't given it a look https://www.denon.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-denon_northamerica_shared/default/dw79f7f4b3/downloads/avr-x1700h-owners-manual-en.pdf

[fierce yacht]

Yeah I have it pulled up. But knowing little about it makes it a lot to consume. Could I not use the pre outs from the zone 2 instead of the backs? And add a little 100w amp for the pool table speakers?

See now Im consufused by the manual because in the screenshot above there is more ports listed.

But in the manual these just dont exist?

Mah just looks like 5.1 is the only option

[halcyon acorn]

the manual doesn't seem to show those pre-outs at all

but if they work with independent amplifiers, there you go

Wireless Heos connected speakers can also probably do what you want

and be quite a bit more flexible

[fierce yacht]

Yeah, I just already have these installed and wired up. Its a system from the previous owner so its trying to make it work with what I have right now

[glad creek]

You could but I don't know if you would have your 7 speakers for zone 1
I think so

I should know that lmao I have a 3700h

[fierce yacht]

Im going to hook it up for zone 2 for now, then might buy a cheap amp. From what I have read if I get a class d they draw very little power. Any idea if I can just leave it on and not have to mess with it other than telling the reciever to play onn those pre outs? (Given that is how it works, tests to come)

[glad creek]

Yes you can leave it on if it has an auto detect feature so that it's not litteraly always on but powers itself only when needed

[fierce yacht]

Any small amps that you know of with that feature? 100watt 8 ohms for each speaker is what Im driving

[lean grove]

Fosi monoblock v3's

[wintry mirage]

im not sure if my glass table is going to hold much more

i have 3 amps that weigh over 15kg on it

i wonder if its worth investing in a standalone table for the amps and record player

might give better sound on the records

[molten skiff]

got the r70x headphones but the volume is a bit low

what is a good amp

[lean grove]

Singxer sa-1

[molten skiff]

okay correction whats a good amp that isnt overly expensive

[lean grove]

You should give a budget too because I can keep guessing at what "overly" expensive means to you and keep getting it wrong.

[warm scarab]

2019

[warm scarab]

is zen can too expensive

the non air version

[lean grove]

did you accidentally confuse the discord chat for age verification again

[plucky vigil]

best $150 wireless headset maybe some rgb cuz i like performance?

[warm scarab]

no

[violet heron]

no rgb, but HyperX Cloud III S does the job

[lone flame]

how much do you want to spend?

[lone flame]

If you don't have an DAC either

i would recommend you an easy Apple Dongle. it's cheap and does its job pretty well

If you want more power...
FiiO KA11!!!

And if you want a seperate unit. Get a Atom stack. OR a DX5ii

[terse river]

I want to get into audiophile headphones but I know nothing

[lone flame]

Everything is an "Audiophile" Headphone if you like the sound of it 😄

[terse river]

I have a x2800h denton for my speakers, would I need to get an amp for my headset or would that work as an amp

[terse river]

True, but I don’t like mine lol

Or I should say

Music sounds better in person, so I want to get closer to that feeling

[lone flame]

they should work. But they are not optimized or intentionally specificly made for headphones.

[terse river]

Ok

[lone flame]

How much would you wanna spend?

[terse river]

Would it be significantly better to get an actual amp

[terse river]

Willing to spend up to 500, but if there’s a 300 dollar headset that does 90 percent of a 500 dollar one, I’ll prefer that. I’m really trying to get a nice taste of the category to see if I want to persue it

[lone flame]

Price has nothing to do with Sound Quality 😅

there are $30 headphones that sound better than ALOT of headphones that costs over 1K

[lone flame]

USD right?

[terse river]

Then why are they so expensive?

Yes

[lone flame]

mostly Build quality, "luxury materials" and because its tech and there is always an expensive side of each thing

same with PC parts, Cars or Sports equipment

[terse river]

Well I’m going for sound quality :)

[lone flame]

Do you have an Preference in sound?

[terse river]

Wdym

[lone flame]

like more bassy, or brighter (brigther means more detailed for lots of people)

or natural / neutral

[terse river]

Ugh whatever would be better for like, romantic era classical music

[lone flame]

Do you listen to vocals too?

[terse river]

Less, but sometimes

[lone flame]

i would say HD600 with an FiiO K11

[terse river]

Oh that’s the one dankpods goes crazy over

Cool

[lone flame]

Topping DX5ii is a more expensive but has some nice features that makes it somewhat "outstanding" for it's price

[lone flame]

not only dankpods

[terse river]

That’s the only audio yter I really watch lol

[lone flame]

Headphone Show, DMS, Crinacle (Hangout.Audio now), Super* Review

[terse river]

So what’s special about the Fio k11, what exactly makes that better than the amp in my Denton

[lone flame]

just to name some of the (imo) good Audio Youtube channels that make quality objective content

[terse river]

Or like headphone amps in general, what makes that better than a speaker amp with a headphone jack as well

[lone flame]

in short.
i don't find actual measurements or something similar to see the actual performance of it

[lone flame]

Mostly they are made for headphones. So mostly high power output for higher impedances, very low Noise level, and a pretty low Distortion level

also the features and connectivity are mostly better. + they are smaller so better for putting onto the desk etc

also you could use it as a DAC for the Denon

[terse river]

Haha that’s real, I bought a bedside table for my speaker amp

[lone flame]

so K11 for Headphones and the x2800h

[terse river]

What’s that mean

[lone flame]

a DAC is a Digital (to) Analogue Converter

[terse river]

Isn’t that what my denton is?

[lone flame]

every Audiochain has a DAC somewhere when played from an digital source

[terse river]

What is the improvement by
Using fio over the Dac in the denton

[lone flame]

idk what DAC is build in because very few information of it.... sadly

Headphones and IEMs (IEMs even more) are pretty sensitive to noise

so if a noise floor is high you would hear a "hiss" permanently... and that is pretty annoying.
On speakers it is less noticable (depends on the distance to the speakers and ofc of the Noisefloor level)

[terse river]

Ahh so having the big power lines next to the dac might make things muddy or smtg?

[lone flame]

Power cables CAN create noise too.
If your cable is badly shielded it probably will create some annoying noise.

badly shielded DAC/AMPs can also pick up noise from power cables.
idk how the x2800h is build tho

[terse river]

From what I hear it’s one of the better amps, so I think it’ll be fine

[lone flame]

you can try an buy the K11 too. You can test it with both. And if the K11 isn't really better you should be able to send it back 😄

the K11 should have WAY more power than the Denon

[terse river]

Alright then thanks 🙏

[lone flame]

oh also to important to say imo.
the HD600 are not a pair of bass heavy headphones

they lean back more in the basses

here the Frequency Response IF you want to see some data

[terse river]

Huh

Ok

[lone flame]

Reading is pretta simple.
x axis are the frequencies in Hz
y axis the loudness in dB

So on the graph you can see the loudness of Frequencies

and the dottet line is how the measuring simulator (it simulates a human ear) hears a (neutral) speaker

[terse river]

Ok ty

[lone flame]

as a question for myself.
What headphones do you currently have

[terse river]

Gaming headphones

[lone flame]

what exact model?

oh and info to the HD600.
they do NOT have a mic

and they are open back. So you can hear noise of your surrounding IRL pretty easly

and your surrounding can pretty easly hear what you are listening too

[terse river]

Steeleries arctic pro wireless, it’s nice for the features, but I hear the audio isn’t great

[lone flame]

👍
ye HD 600 should be better

even with WAY less bass

[abstract fox]

Do shock mounts make a difference when on a mic

[warm scarab]

edition xs

ifi zen can

[terse river]

What

[warm scarab]

headphone: edition xs
amplifier: ifi zen can

I would not advise a fiio amplifier to my worst enemy

and hd600 is kind of made obsolete by the existence of hd650 and 6xx which is just hd650 but cheaper

[lean grove]

fiio amplifiers have gotten better over the last couple years

k11 is goated

though the 6xx is pretty much a HD600 but is about $150 cheaper @terse river so its worth considering

[terse river]

Oh cool

[lean grove]

if you bump your desk and mic a lot, yeah they help reduce the sound going into your mic

[lone flame]

ah right he is from USA

i forget 6xx alot bcs im from Europe and HD6xx is kinda irrelevant here

[polar onyx]

My favourite way to test speakers https://youtu.be/uYMpMcmpfkI?si=OjHfLJQrWJD3y_ki

[zenith pawn]

original uncompressed audio
youtube.com
hmmmmmm

my favorite way to test my iems is Rush - Power Windows (aka just listen to music you like)

[sharp stone]

Looking to buy new pair of wireless headphones since my M50xBT2 had a tragic incident Are there any headphones that are notably better at that price range even?

[polar onyx]

Yeah. No. But it's pretty good

[glad creek]

I run the bunker scene from 1917 or actions scenes from batman begins

This last one is just... Yeah

They didn't hold back on the dynamic range

[polar onyx]

Smart. And cool.

[lone flame]

I use some specific tracks i know in every detail to dest systems

and for me these tracks has everything for testing a system

[polar onyx]

I notice the audio difference between YouTube and Floatplane

And Spotify Vs premium

[lone flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ZDqr68qT0
my fav reference track

[polar onyx]

I'll try it with my earbuds. I use speakers to watch stuff. And earbuds for music

[lone flame]

I just LOVE the Sounddesign and the clean mix

[polar onyx]

I love it

https://youtu.be/aGj1iQvhlXE?si=_6DejGLy5K3565ni

I if you can get the sub bass at 2:59 you have a pretty good set up

[lone flame]

For sub i have something else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwgGGrF2mxA
and i warn you all..
That is some LOW FATASS bass

[polar onyx]

I'm going to try it on my speakers

I feel like it's okay

[lean grove]

Get the Ugreen max5

[lone flame]

finally someone

[glad creek]

Oh perfect to test my dual sub setup I have since one week ago 😮

[lone flame]

yeah. its PERFECT for that lol

that track goes so low but still is so clean :3

[glad creek]

Wtf did I just hear

[lone flame]

hm?

u dont like it? xD

[bright mist]

https://www.amazon.com/FIFINE-Microphone-Individual-Voice-AmpliGame-SC3/dp/B0BZP95YB5?crid=2LGQMVRFBROUQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Avn70dFLKl32lET4JAhz5tGL7HFAvt4GRjLbcvHySZPu8e0cvMejVsaZto-fKxrjaUcyYVLSzt3zU3QjrM3ib6YgtYutecAcnnA_DGYwNNAOJ0yv34y2j5agyTlMiUzJSFMLZh9DkNq-CWWuljMEIwJiuILhyvsh6LviQL6CvIR_zTexmfZce7V4u1GjFcso-iJRPk_3p6k58J3PHUvTdbIe6QkOP2_CuWH5g2rCfEkl6Z_UkjT1QasQfHycY3CFp7B3lU81r8UaCuA049BQj8pI8SFJxrYhTnsOJjk1sfo.6_r-X5X-HeOP6_aQxDUXRRvarnYpWBHKrxxZxjNkIUQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=audio%2Bmixer&qid=1752708936&sprefix=audio%2Bmixe%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-6&th=1

can I use something like this to combine the audio from two computers (working laptop+gaming pc) into one headset?

[lean grove]

looks like it can mix the line-in signal so yeah probably.

[bright mist]

isnt there only one line in?

@lean grove

I need 2 inputs from 2 computers

[lean grove]

im guessing thats what the USB is for

labeled "OTG/PC"

have usb of the main computer going to the PC, and the secondary PC has an aux cable go to the line-in

[bright mist]

huh interesting

[bright mist]

is fifine a good company? and would I need a dac+amp? Im currently using the samson q2u with usb but still have the other cable

@lean grove also I found this on their website

also whats the best place to buy a boom arm?

[lean grove]

they make decent cheap stuff. hard to fault them considering the price

[warm scarab]

any of the cheapest if its not reel based

just check the clamp's quality

and arm size

they are all kind of the same thing

[red quest]

@stuck bolt

[stuck bolt]

Yes sir

[stuck bolt]

How may I help you

[red quest]

i wanted to show you a video

my bad XD

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6i4Qn44tk_E

i made it, but it moves so cool

[lone flame]

idk tbh if that thin performs pretty well

[lone flame]

the Mics are okayish.
Pretty much Endgame for the normal gamer

But i won't buy their DAC/AMPs

best DAC/AMP Combi for XLR mics imo is Vocaster One for the mic and Apple Dongle for Headphones

[night fiber]

Do we discuss headphones in here

[civic beacon]

Yup.

[night fiber]

Ok thanks, sorry I didn’t check that

Can anyone voice an opinion about the new Skullcandy Crusher Plyr 720s? For gaming? I had both og crushers and crusher wireless for casual music and liked em. I currently have SteelSeries Arctis Nova 7Xs for gaming and they’re fine, kinda wanting something better and those
Skullcandys have me really wondering. Especially wondering if it’d be an upgrade.

I usually listen to music while I game too so its making me wanna pick em up

[bright mist]

yeah I got the samson q2u as I heard it was the "budget king". what would be the best way to combine 2 audio inputs?

thats the only reason im considering it

Im using mouse without borders for a "virtual kvm"

would be great to hear the audio on my main rig

[warm scarab]

a mixer

[bright mist]

any reasonably cheap ones?

under 100$

[warm scarab]

whatever you can find

[lone flame]

not worth the price

Max5c are better tuned and costs 30 bucks xD

[lean grove]

they're up to $60 now

[lone flame]

wat

[lone flame]

23€ in germany right now

[lean grove]

huh

yeah idk. volitile prices.

[lean grove]

I introduced my american friends to Rotkohl tonight

they loved it

[lone flame]

look amazon prices

[lone flame]

introduce him to Mettbrötchen

idk if Raw Pork is eadable in the US

[lean grove]

not really but also can't get anything close to german bread around me

[lone flame]

well. german bread and german sweets in general

Brötchen are peak Bread ❤️

and we make nice audio gear

[lean grove]

german sweets are okay. about ten years behind america and most of asia.

but yeah german bread is peak 👌

[lone flame]

"ten years behind america"
...
Look into the ingredients
There are reasons why obesity is that high in the states

[lean grove]

its because our candy tastes better

[lone flame]

we should probably shift the convo somewhere else

[warm scarab]

america allows substances that are linked to addiction and causing hunger in their foods

which is banned in entirety of europe and most of the world

[reef ginkgo]

Is there a Dolby Atmos Receiver for PCs? (without using HDMI and something like USB)

[warm scarab]

why do you want atmos on pc

theater room?

[terse river]

ok so im still not sure if this is the correct takeaway from when i asked this question, but i should get hd 6xxs if i want a taste of high end headphones, and if i want to splurge a littlem hd 650s. then for amp I get fiio k11 and if i want more features, i splurge a bit and i get topping dx5 ii

[lean grove]

The HD6XX and hd650 are functionally identical. In my mind there's no reason to get the 650 if you're able to get the 6xx. But otherwise yeah.

[terse river]

cool ty

[left hornet]

Hey Uhh I need some tips

So I think I messed up cleaning the pots on my cheap pc speaker sub...

I applied isopropanol to them and worked them for a bit, but when I reassembled it and turned it on it just started making a pulsing beat!

Did I break something or did I just not allow it enough time for the alcohol to evaporate?

Either way I don't mind very much, I was already prepared to trash it as the pots were kinda effed causing it to make an EXTREEEEMELY loud noise whenever I would touch the bass knob

Kinda neat having it apart though. Manufacturer still took it upon themselves to clearly mark where the particularly angry pixies enter the board and where to not touch

[warm scarab]

i dont advise dx5 ii

6xx and 650 are also not high end either

this is a subjective question

and I don't like those headphones at all and would take xs over them any time of the day

[lone flame]

dx5ii is an absolute nice unit with building Paramatic EQ

by Price 6xx and 650 may not be high end

but for lots of people its Endgame

the Edition XS are not bad either

but mostly have problems in the treble and comfort issues

[warm scarab]

built in eq is a meme

[warm scarab]

not a price issue

I don't evaluate headphones based on cost

6xx just being echoed as endgame I don't like

[lone flame]

i dont rate stuff out of my experience

bcs im just one of many

[warm scarab]

aside from some communities build to worship 6xx

most people ive seen dont hold the headphone in regards so high

[lone flame]

i try to rate is objectivly by data and intersubjective thoughts

[warm scarab]

including me

i think its okay and thats about it

i dont understand what is special about it

[lone flame]

for you

there are some psychoacoustic effects that are different from each person

and the most important one of that is HRTF

[broken wolf]

guys how come my g pro headset mic isnt working?
where can i find the drivers for it as I cant see it on ghub

[red quest]

is connecting a sub straight to a car stereo/radio possible?, i saw a video on it but now i cant find it.

[left hornet]

Figured it out... Turns out I plugged the sub to the wrong header on the circuit board...

[patent frigate]

whats a good budget mic

when i mean budget i mean like under like 50 bucks

is fifine still tthe one thats good?

[livid ruin]

i’m not a mic expert so, i would suggest checking out other chinesium brands like tonor

too

i wouldn’t say fifine is the best value, but their mics are fine for sure

[patent frigate]

so would one say they are fi FINE?

[livid ruin]

yeeeee

[patent frigate]

hold up

tonors mic look exactly like fifiines

[livid ruin]

they may be sharing similar/same odms/oems

i’m not sure if fifine designs their own mics

i assume they just slap their logo on existing mics put their ware on them and ship them

but i could be wrong, but this practise isn’t uncommon

[patent frigate]

i may or may not of upsold myself

i went from the cheapest offering

to the am8t

[livid ruin]

anyways i would check other brands if i were you

[patent frigate]

like what

[livid ruin]

i don’t know

i’m not a mic guy, at most i’d measure fan noise profiles and that’s it

[patent frigate]

my headset mic just broke

and i don't wanna buy a new headest

[livid ruin]

in-cable mic btw

they’re not the best, but useable for like $3

[patent frigate]

i mean aren't headset mics ass tho

[livid ruin]

i would buy an in-cable mic until you get something better, almost 100 pesos for a fifine mic is too much, i don’t think fifine has that good mics to be worth 0.1 grand

especially if you can’t even find scientific notations/tests of how the mic performs

$15-30 for a tonor/fifine mic 👍 ok, $60-100 mehh

[patent frigate]

did not dox my postal code

fell victim to the classic amazon doxing

[livid ruin]

that t669 is just k669b with arm and detachable mic

[patent frigate]

i mean arm and popfliter is good for 40 bucks no?

[livid ruin]

yeah no

i bought my k669b for like 20-30?

[patent frigate]

this do be canadian

oh wait tthe k669b is 40 bucks

[livid ruin]

still too much

[livid ruin]

yeah that one is, as someone described “it sounds like high quality phone mic”

[patent frigate]

hey a high quality phone mic is miles better then my headset mic

[livid ruin]

similar story with tonor, they be really worth $25 considering the sound, i’d say nothing more

also a lot of the fifine mics have exaggerated highs so that also could be an issue if you’re looking for the closest representation to reality

[patent frigate]

my old mic made me sound like a 12 year old

[livid ruin]

sure, but in-cable mics cost few bucks for mid range phone mic quality

[patent frigate]

i also have a wireless headset (hey it was on sale)

so wouldn't an incable mic make it wired again

[livid ruin]

right, ops

[patent frigate]

what about this

[livid ruin]

well, then buy some tonor mic for like 30 cad until you get smth better

[patent frigate]

tonor is like the same price

[livid ruin]

idk, pretty sure some of the money went to rgb instead of sound quality

[livid ruin]

oh, no aliexpress?

[patent frigate]

would rather not wait like 3 weeks

[livid ruin]

anyways, go watch some proper reviews for mic like reference vs the mic, charts and charts.

[patent frigate]

considering all i play are fpses

[patent frigate]

i have zero idea whos good for mics

[livid ruin]

look for reference vs mic videos/websites atleast, ideally when they have frequency and spatial charts

ignore the videos/websites where they’ll tell you just how good the mic is without providing any scientific proof, especially if they encourage you to buy the mic through their affiliates even before the video has started

[patent frigate]

seems like the rainbow vomit mic isn't dogshit

[warm scarab]

can you: yes
should you: no

[red quest]

okay

thank you for the info

@stuck bolt IT TOOK IT!

https://youtu.be/5QpDRjC0GUI

dudeeeee

jeezus christ

i upped the bass a bit at near the end

my speakers did NOT like the bass though xD

[lone flame]

[frosty ocean]

I don't know how this Yamaha reciever sounds yet, but damn...the networking is fast

I barely plugged it in and turned around to look at the wall, and it already had the IP address

which is how it should be, but damn, modern device sure love to make that process slow for some reason

[swift cradle]

Hello

Anyone know how to speaker

I have recently developed the urge to invest in a high quality sound system

[buoyant vale]

Grab some Focal Grande Utopia Em Evos and a nice sub or two

[swift cradle]

Why are subs so expensive

Is Q Acoustics 3020i any good?

[buoyant vale]

I've not heard them but they graph surprisingly well for the price

[swift cradle]

Alr, they’re on sale near me for £180, is that a good price?

[buoyant vale]

their website had them for £139

ah they are out of stock

[wintry mirage]

how can i test the power output of my amplifier to make sure im not being lied to

i dont currently have any speaker powerful enough to max out the power rating

i have been told i can use resistors but that would cost more than i paid for the amp

[steel escarp]

ah yes, miniDSP Flex software is linked to the account of the initial buyer

I bought a unit, but now I can't utilize it

[wintry mirage]

im just testing it for now im going to buy a driver and build the box to take full advantage of the power

this is the first step in my project

[warm scarab]

hard to make

huge magnets, built in amp and equalizer in most

[warm scarab]

what kind of resistors are you buying bruh

also if this is for the attenuator box i mentioned before, you can try your headphones without the box

[wintry mirage]

its not headphones im talking about a different amplifier now

[warm scarab]

ah

hmm

you can use a multimeter

[wintry mirage]

im not doing the headphone upgrade for quite some time

[warm scarab]

k

[wintry mirage]

will it not overpower the meter

[warm scarab]

no bro

wtf

you measure 220ac with multimeters

[buoyant vale]

you don't understand klaus

[warm scarab]

your 10 baby watts isnt killing any multimeter

[buoyant vale]

amplifier big

[warm scarab]

huge even

[buoyant vale]

socket on wall small

[wintry mirage]

its 1500 watts at 4 ohms

[warm scarab]

dude

[wintry mirage]

how do i verify that

[warm scarab]

amp x voltage

and divide by ohm

i think

[left jungle]

testing 5$ ""airpods"" ngl they are good but not balenced like thers tooo much bass distorted trebel at high volumes and at 100% i feel like the amp is peaking

[warm scarab]

make sure one of the speakers is connected to the opposite site btw

or at least a resistor is

[wintry mirage]

i dont have a speaker that can consume enough power to check

[warm scarab]

some amps really dislike not having a load

[warm scarab]

resistor

[wintry mirage]

yes but the only ones i can find cost more than the amplifier

[warm scarab]

how much

[wintry mirage]

cant seem to find anything for less than £140

[warm scarab]

what the fuck

what kind of resistor are you getting

[wintry mirage]

one rated for 4 ohms 2000 watts to make sure it doesnt burn up

[warm scarab]

I bought my entire attenuator box for 1$

[warm scarab]

thats not how it works

its probably 2000 miliwatts

not 2000 watts

[wintry mirage]

what is 2000 watts

[warm scarab]

2000 miliwatts is 2 watts

[wintry mirage]

how am i meant to verify the output i was told "Get a beefy resistor with the same resistance as your speaker driver, play a 1khz tone and turn the amp up to clipping and measure the ac voltage between + and -"

[warm scarab]

get a 4ohm resistor

like a stone or aluminum one

Actually 2 of them

place it in positives

then short it with your multimeter and ground terminal

@wintry mirage can you just write the name of your amp

[wintry mirage]

wharfedale pro s1500 power amplifier