audio-tech

[warm scarab]

ez

they arent that fragile mate

[elder thistle]

those ones are

[granite drum]

whats weird about that , linear means every frequency gets the same phase shift so ...

wich is not that hard to do using FTT

(and the image shows the plugin has 4096 samples buffer so never seen a regular eq that has that many 🙂 since you dont need a full frame with those

(for it to be transparent you have to match the Q verry close to or as close as it allows atleast 0.707.....)

[elder thistle]

yeah but linear is a control scheme that's different from parametric

[granite drum]

damn wish i could still show you because i had a 3 band transparant working , where if you set every control to 0 db and played the inverted track on a seperate one then boost eh signal 60db you would still get absoltue silence 🙂 wich is only possible using a linear eq

did have to maek this thing for it 🙂 so i could get that 0.707 near perfect 😄

[elder thistle]

are you sure parametric eq adding noise or whatever from non-0.707 q factors is not a linux buggy software issue

[granite drum]

haha lol thats on windows and linux has much better sound then windows imho and i used jack2 on windows + asio then , (on linux i use wineasio+pipewire) , and i wasnt listening to noise i was looking at it using voxengo span plus after a boost of 60db ,, and you cannot get that using anything but a linear eq , since every frequency gets shifted differently on a regular eq , the -------\/------- intersections would never add up to the same as the original because of that

[elder thistle]

I don't know what is being added up or what this original is

or the nature of what it is that's non-reversible

[granite drum]

adding noise ? no idea what you mean by that , you dont use a linear eq for noice reduction, if you shift a signal 180degrees ( aka invert it) you get absolute silence , thats logic , but if you use a regular eq on one of the channels the slope of that eq maes every frequency have a little bit different shift , and you cant shift it back in time to match up again with the original unshifted signal

[elder thistle]

it's a subject-verb error

[granite drum]

any signal

[elder thistle]

so... reversed in time? thd? noise? phase, frequency response

and would this be done with the same eq setup but opposite gain settings?

I don't know what it is that's being corrupted or the nature of that corruption at the fault of parametric eq compared to linear

[granite drum]

n

a regular now imaginde that shift in the second collum to be a little bit different for each frequency when using a traditional filter , you would have to reverse that shift for each filter exactly the same, and you cant do that by using another filter since that shifts it even more unless you do linear (each frequency gets the same exact shift ) you know the offset like 4096 samples and introduce that to the other inverted signal to match them back up , result silence... now if you combine 4 of them in a row so you get -----\/-------\/------ you have a complete ly transparent bandsplitter , turning down one band makes that baand audible of the inverted .

ill record a clip later in ableton but i have to go now for a while , its really neat what you can do with that knowledge , like dynamicly mix tracks togetter in a way since you can absolutely sinlence a band with it nothing of that will bleed trough

[elder thistle]

you mean like this? point 5 and 6 have reversed the phase changes they caused because they are opposite and identical

[granite drum]

i do have some older abletons installed where my previous creation should still work

[granite drum]

no

your seeing an equalizer, im drawing sinusoidal signals in order to demonstrate phasehsift

more like this

singnals (that does not show phasehift but its the only clip i made with that so far

if the orange was as big in amplitude and with the same frequency the would canel eachother out

[elder thistle]

if you mean if I export music with eq point 5, then put it back into my daw and counter that eq with equal and opposite point 6 then export again

then compare it to the source file,

they would be identical

[granite drum]

no your not getting it im not eq ing 🙂 lol

you need to get what phase shift is first in order to get what happens in a regular eq ... and why that can be unwanted in order to get what a linear phase shift 'fixes' (at the cost of latency but equal latency for every frequency in a signal wich you can mittigate)

[elder thistle]

oh linear phase eq

[granite drum]

:phasepalm: duh its what it says right haha

[elder thistle]

linear I was talking about here, also called graphical

which fundamentally does create the same phase shift in each frequency between two points

I think this is 30 degrees here, with a line approximation

that's the only eq I have installed that shows phase

but hence the confusion

[long temple]

which headphones do Linus & Luke use on WAN show?

[pure cave]

audio technica mh50x

not the best headphones tho

[elder thistle]

what are the best headphones

[pure cave]

the ones that are comfiest

also sennheiser HE-1

[elder thistle]

hm

yes I would rather wear something with larger earpads

and deeper

[pure cave]

hifiman edition xs

yw

[elder thistle]

yes but that leaks sound a lot

[fleet hollow]

any recommendation for TRS or TRRS cables that are 3.5mm 2x3.5mm? bc somehow im not finding much about it

[pure cave]

well open back better so L

😏

[elder thistle]

xs is probably the comfiest headphone I've worn

[pure cave]

im using dt1990 rn

[elder thistle]

it kinda bruteforces its way into that position

also headband not an issue for me

I usually wear an mc450 or speakers

[pure cave]

cant believe some reacted oh god to my dt1990

smh

[buoyant vale]

I guess they are useful if you need something to punch through your tinnitus

[pure cave]

they sound good to me eq'd ok

and they comfy n tough

[warm scarab]

they are good

for half of their price

[pure cave]

Got a good open box deal

Good enough anyway

[zenith pawn]

wtf is your definition of information, a signal is information

[stone blade]

Is it worth buying AirPods Pro 2 now? I heard rumours of pro 3. Is it worth waiting?

[warm scarab]

kinda nah

you can interpret it like that if you argue semantics but as for as audio goes information refers to digital mostly

and signal is analog

[stone quartz]

Is this deal worth taking advantage of?

Looks like £249

[lean grove]

If you didn't already have headphones and a DAC then sure

[hasty tundra]

I just got my girlfriend interested in the world of IEMs and shes never owned a decent pair of headphones, just beats. so i told her to listen to a song shes familiar with and she was amazed XD

she listened to the spongebob theme because she said shes been hearing it since she was a kid. and in all fairness... scarlet fire (a very simple track) is used as a test audio all the time so i dont see anything wrong with using a kids show song as a benchmark lmfao

[hasty tundra]

just like to mention rq. theres not much difference between that daq and the one inside the 6$ iphone headphone adapter.

crinacle uses one of those inexpensive iphone adapters with his HD-6XX all the time XD

but hey, if its free its free!

[lean grove]

Wow really? That's crazy dude.

[hasty tundra]

yeah every digital audio device needs a daq as part of their circuit so basically everything with a headphone jack already has a daq. but honestly i think what most people need is a good amp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3moaaOpYZM&pp=ygUaY3JpbmFjbGUgZG8geW91IG5lZWQgYSBkYXE%3D

he talks about daqs too in this vid and i highly reccomend watching it before considering buying an amp/daq

[buoyant vale]

apple dongle is only half a volt output here

heard it can be even worse on android

[hasty tundra]

please refer to 4:41 timestamp

[buoyant vale]

what?

[hasty tundra]

the crinacle video

[buoyant vale]

yeah i know

how is that relevant

[hasty tundra]

well you're talking about the power output of the amp, no?

[buoyant vale]

no I was talking about the voltage

[hasty tundra]

oh right

my bad

if its good enough for crins HD800s its good enough for my dumbass

[buoyant vale]

sure

[zenith pawn]

Interesting, I wasn't aware of that

[zenith pawn]

Yep its like 50% volume compared to other devices but this is due to an android software issue, not anything hardware

(Ive heard some people try to say its apple trying to sabotage android but I don't think that's true)

[buoyant vale]

an issue is an issue

[fleet hollow]

Heyo, any recommendation for TRS or TRRS cables that are 3.5mm 2x3.5mm and 2m to 3m long? bc somehow im not finding much about it

[warm scarab]

make your own

[lean grove]

My mind is being blown right now I never knew this.

@buoyant vale did you know this

[buoyant vale]

No and now this crinkle guy has exposed me for not paying attention at school

but at least I have my apple dongle

[lean grove]

Bit confused by what you're asking. For 3.5mm you shouldnt need TRRS for headphone cables unless you have an in-line mic

[fleet hollow]

dunno just hoe my fiio jt1 came with those cables i just want a longer on bc its too short

[pure cave]

crazy idea

just buy a trs cable

that is the length you like

copper is copper, you arent going to ascend to a new level of audiophile by getting a god tier cable

get one that looks decent

[buoyant vale]

I get all my cables made by italian virgins

[fleet hollow]

cant find any

[pure cave]

you cant find a 2 or 3m trs cable

really

[lean grove]

What do you mean

There's tons

[pure cave]

etc

[fleet hollow]

that is 3.5mm 2x3.5mm yes i found 2 but they are like 50+

[pure cave]

what do you need

like a 2 pole for each earcup

that converges into a trs

?

[lean grove]

Or just get an aux extender

[pure cave]

true

[fleet hollow]

yes

2 3.5mm for each earcup and one 3.5mm to connect to my pc

[pure cave]

yea just get an extender

[warm scarab]

antonio?

[fleet hollow]

dont they mess with the audio?

[lean grove]

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Extension-Adapter-Compatible-Smartphones/dp/B00LM4OMUW/ref=asc_df_B00LM4OMUW

[warm scarab]

why is antonio a virgin

[buoyant vale]

he better be

[warm scarab]

i remember him having a gf

[buoyant vale]

I paid extra

[pure cave]

unless the connection is shitty, no

[warm scarab]

and he was built asf from gym

[pure cave]

its literally just copper

[warm scarab]

i think youve been had

[buoyant vale]

[lean grove]

If he weren't a virgin he wouldn't need to work out

[zenith pawn]

and various traces of electroplated gold.and something

[lean grove]

Some can have bad shielding. So it might pick up noise if you snake it between power connectors and radio antenna.

[zenith pawn]

and air

If I was gonna be technical 🤓

[hasty tundra]

have you considered not snaking it between power connectors and a radio antenna

[zenith pawn]

hey some people have speaker systems and transmit them dozens of feet :tr:

actually your house is filled with radio antennas (wifi) and power connectors 🤓

well I guess only things in audible frequencies would matyer

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[buoyant vale]

silly Nils

[lean grove]

I'm learning so much today

[warm scarab]

he really got you there

[fair pawn]

Gonna need those cable lifters

[warm scarab]

what grade magic stones should I have alloyed on my cable lifters?

[lean grove]

well normally i would recommend at least a level 10 stage 13 magic stone but for you and your music i think anythign above a level 4 should be sufficient

[unique wind]

samsung changed the sub design in the hw-q990f

looks more like a traditional cube sub now instead of a rectangle

as for performance it looks like the q990 is still easily the best soundbar system

[buoyant vale]

How the fuck are they calling that 11.1.4 ?

[unique wind]

the bar itself counts as 7 channels

[buoyant vale]

[unique wind]

i have the version that doesn’t come with rears and i just use it in stereo mode so idk how well the surround works

[dapper wing]

Need recommendations for speakers.

I am open to bookshelf speakers, soundbars, 2.1 setups etc.

budget is around 8k rupees (100$) i can maybe stretch it a bit.

I heard this soundbar called Samsung T42T/XL, it had a subwoofer, and the sound was downright angelic. It cost around 10k but it was so big i don't think it will fit on my desk.
I saw other alternatives online like the Creative Stage V2, or the Creative Stage 2.1. If you guys know anything about these that would also help.

[hasty tundra]

so update i did a bit more research and the United states market version of the apple dongle is different and outputs 1v which is plenty. however the european market version is limited to 0.5v

[buoyant vale]

thats what I was saying

[frosty ocean]

I was thinking of getting a balanced cord for my pioneers, but i didn't wanna spend 20 dollars on headphones i paid 7 dollars for

[warm scarab]

check out edifier 1280

[dapper wing]

Out of budget :(

[warm scarab]

how much does creative pebbles 2.1 cost

i dont know of the creative stage 2.1

[dapper wing]

Not available here :') cuz I wanted those originally

[granite drum]

the human ear , creating 3d surround sound with only 2 'pickups' 🙂

[obsidian urchin]

Are there any decent dongle dacs out there besides the Apple one? I have a Fiio KA11 too that's a piece of crap.

I see Anker and ugreen make them, anyone tried theirs?

[lean grove]

https://fosiaudio.com/products/fosi-audio-ds1-headphone-amps-supports-dsd512-with-3-5mm-4-4mm-outputs

[obsidian urchin]

I like how the manual for it says it has no battery then goes on to give advice on charging

[obsidian urchin]

hmm, I hadn't considered a balanced portable dac

[haughty girder]

What's wrong with the KA11?

runs hot?

[obsidian urchin]

crashes randomly, gets hot enough sitting in a car it won't turn on, audio pops, switched it to UAC 1.0 and my phone just doesn't detect it anymore so I can't switch it back and just can't use it with my phone anymore

[haughty girder]

yeah it's not a portable dac.

well it is, but it's not supposed to be used with phone

[elder thistle]

do you see any products that resemble this

[obsidian urchin]

not sure we're thinking of the same dac, the ka11 is a dongle dac that's definitely meant to be used with phones

[haughty girder]

yes I'm very much aware

the issue with it

[elder thistle]

what do you not like about it? just curious

[haughty girder]

is that the dac portion is on the 3.5mm jack

[lean grove]

its nice. balanced is pretty rare but its nice to have. can also turn into a really comprehensive desktop dac for a balanced ampliifer.

[haughty girder]

and its got the dac and op amp of what you'd normally find in a larger thumbdrive style dac

but not the cooling

so it drains battery and runs extra hot

[obsidian urchin]

yea, it does run hot and it thermal protects early

[elder thistle]

o

[lean grove]

fosi ds1 also gets warm. but i havent had it shut off

[haughty girder]

that's why even tho it's a portable dac it should pretty much only be used at desk with a laptop or smth

DS1 has a LOT more thermal mass for disappation lol

[lean grove]

https://www.qudelix.com/products/qudelix-5k

[haughty girder]

KA11 got basically this much area for heat dissapation

[lean grove]

this is also really good. one of the best portable dacs on the market as long as you dont need stupid power requirements

[elder thistle]

you know those round heatsinks they make for fat wirewound resistors?

lol

[haughty girder]

defeats the purpose of the dongle

[elder thistle]

probably

[haughty girder]

yeah that's acc why I don't like the KA11 lol

[obsidian urchin]

I'm making little battery-powered ESP32S3 boards to receive PCM over the network and output to a USB DAC.

I didn't really look into what was up with it but the KA11 was making the 5v3a regulator on it get unreasonably hot (240F+) while the Apple DAC only got it a few degrees above ambient.

[haughty girder]

North American Apple dong gives about 30mw into 32ohms and runs a single CS46L06

KA11 gives about 200mw into 32 ohms and runs a CS43131 + SGM8262

[obsidian urchin]

I did have to volume limit the KA11, lol

[haughty girder]

dedicated amplifier chip is the issue here

CS43131 by itself is already like 60-70mw into 32 ohms, more than Apple dongle

[dapper wing]

Edifiers. Yeah

[elder thistle]

any of them within budget? which models

[granite drum]

the incline is contstant but its actually not between 2 points but for a single frequency you get a single phase shift , between two points you woiuld get the integral of the incline, if if there was a way to simply undo that for every frequency with the same amount there would be no problem but since their isnt the next best thing is have it be the same for each frequency so the line is horizontal and then shift the inverted sound by that amount wich is easy to do.
what you would hear in that case is , the band going trough the filter being removed from the inverted signal... wich is something we can work with, if we do the same thing again at the same frequecy but make it hipass instead of lopass andkeep the Q at 0.707.... then since all shifts are the same the crosover point should be at exactly 0..5V if the original was 1v, (or -6db so the frequency where the signal has half the strenght from the lowpass filter also has half the strengt from the higpass making it exactly the original volume again, but more importantly with exactly the same phaseshift so the output for that frequency is exactly the original signal again in terms of volume:)

usually linear phase philters are never used for liveperformances because they need a frame of audio to work with so the delay for 512samples is such that at 44khz a twist of the knob would result in a change almost a second later... so no dj can work like that . but you can get really close to perfect with only 64samples of frames (60db boost wich is insane would still be silend in my original example) and if you ignore the people that say 96 or 192khz audio is useless you realize that at 192khz 64samples of delay is not even a millisecond and i can easely dj with only a millisecond delay (extra) and it allows you to place a envelope follower in a sidechannel that then controls a colume control or compressor in the other cachannel , reducing only the bass of the one song the moment the base in the other song plays replacing basse of one song with the other and creating its own room in the spectrum to do that so it doent sound like anything is missing from the original song and it also does not sound muddy 🙂

and after a full day of messing about in vscode we are here (finaly have the dev env setup lol)

and apparenly in ableton -6db + (-6db) no longer is 0db :S 😦

[elder thistle]

uh I don't really follow the phrasing and sentence flow here, but

phase is essentially the derivative of amplitude over frequency

[granite drum]

if a sinus is created by a cirlcle spinning at a constant speed , ad that is 0degrees is you start the process a quarter turn later the phase is 90 degrees

[elder thistle]

and even if a linear/straight line eq boost exists between two points, the phase rotation across all frequencies may be the same per the slope, but these frequencies have different wavelengths/timing. 90 degrees 40hz is in sync with 180 degrees 80hz

[granite drum]

not talking about eq boost

[elder thistle]

o

[granite drum]

and no your wrong here

phase shift is just a delay in the signal. a single sinus shifted 180degrees is exactly its inverse,

if that sinus is at 1 hz , the phase shift can also be expressed in function of time , wich would then be 0.5s

[elder thistle]

right,

but then 2hz 180 degrees is 0.25 seconds

and that's why a two point graphical eq in minimum phase still doesn't do what a linear phase eq does

phase shift being the same for all frequencies is not the same as 0 shift or phase shift compensating / being higher per higher frequency

[granite drum]

no nothing to do with that , a single pole lowpass for example has this as curve :

its a function of the components used to create the filter, (capacitors thend to increase phase , inductors decrease)

[elder thistle]

that checks out yes

[granite drum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUNpyF58BY&t=493s

im not saying the end result you give or think of is wrong just what causes it to be that way btw

[elder thistle]

the nature of eq is a perfect triangle of relationships between time, amplitude, and phase

it is all interchangeable

[pure cave]

meow

[granite drum]

indeed but if it is the same for all frequencies, lets say 1 second for everything, i can just add 1 second delay to another channel to sync it back up , and if i invert that channel is get absolute silence since one is now the exact inverse of the other (bot with 1second delay over the whole spectrum) wich would not be the case if i used a graph eq, since i would have to somehow give every frequncy in that second channel also a different delay the asme as what the eq causes in the first channel

[elder thistle]

you can remove all effects of a minimum phase eq by using an equal and opposite minimum phase eq

the same applies for linear phase cancelling out linear phase

[granite drum]

time has verry little to do with it , but for the fact that frequency is in the time domain, but if you start a generator that has 3 phases , those would be 120degrees appart because of its construction , in this case there is still a phase difference but not because of time since all 3 coils rotate at the same time at the same speed , they are just located 120 degrees further than the perevious on the rotor

[elder thistle]

but not minimum to linear or vice versa

ye I should've said frequency, not time

[granite drum]

i never said anything about minimum i think 🙂

[elder thistle]

I didn't understand what you said in the second part of this

between the word graph and "not cancelling out", I assume you meant linear eq can't be cancelled out by minimum phase eq

[lean grove]

🐶

[elder thistle]

equal and opposite eq, given the same phase treatment, will always cancel out the original eq

whether or not the eq amplitude vs frequency curve is made of lines or bells is already answered by "equal and opposite"

though you can still approximate a bell with enough lines, or line with enough bells

where is my wa'ner s.g eq

with burnt in target curve but oh well

[granite drum]

lol i have the same audio device (a motu m 2 thing) 😄

(and a focusrite and some others to but 🙂

[pure cave]

i use a 40$ behringer interface cuz i just want direct monitoring

still an upgrade from my mobo audio

[granite drum]

if i add the original signal , but add the phase to it and invert it in the linear phase case , i get silence adding delay can be done by starting the signal exactly that much ms later if one wanted , , in the second case the delay at the crosver point is 45degrees while its 0 degrees at the beginin and the end , adding the original signal inverted to this one will never result in silence because the frequencies that are filtered are not in sync with the rest

(tried making a demo in max but the max osc doesnt allow for displaying a signal without a trigger so it syncs it again for the display loll

[random elm]

What would you say is the best Earbuds out there?

[tawdry gale]

Mysticraft HEX

[random elm]

Oh wow those are expensive, lets stick below $500 lol

I saw some people on reddit say the Bowers & Wilkins Pi8 are the best

[tawdry gale]

so u want wireless?

[random elm]

Yeah, i should've mentioned that

[tawdry gale]

https://razan06.blogspot.com/2024/10/tws-recommendation-list.html

[tawdry gale]

those arent good

[random elm]

Oh ok, i had Sony MX4's until i tried to replace a faulty battery and it dident go to plan, but im looking to see if theres anything better'

[tawdry gale]

right now, not really just sidegrades

(assuming its a wf xm4)

[random elm]

Yeah, i'm unable to wear headphones without them putting preasure on my ears

[cedar quarry]

What's better the new cmf buds 2 or the neckband pro or buds fe?

[tawdry gale]

buds fe

[cedar quarry]

Just curious what makes them better?

[tawdry gale]

the tuning

[cedar quarry]

For bass mids or treble?

[tawdry gale]

all of it

[cedar quarry]

What about the volume?

[random elm]

Should i get a B&W Pi8, Technics AZ100 or Devialet Gemini 2

[cedar quarry]

Whats better nothing ear a or buds fe

[dapper wing]

I am getting Creative Stage V2 for around 7k
Samsung T42E XL for 8.5k
Samsung C45E for around 10k

I wanna use them for my PC for movies, music games etc. Which one do i go for?

prices are in rupees.

just divide by 100

[sage canyon]

Anyone know any good headphones for gaming? needs to have better bass then the bayerdynamic 770 pro. ( i play alot of "bassy games") Needs to be wireless and have anc, budget = under 4k.

I had a sony inzone h9, but it was terrible because it disconected and reconnected all the time so much i broke it in half

[pallid linden]

maybe audio technica ath-m50x BT 2 ?

oh sorry those Audio Technicas do not have ANC

[lean grove]

What does "better bass" entail

Do you want more bass? Deeper bass? Less bloated?

[sage canyon]

More and deeper

[lean grove]

Look into EQ.

The 770s are already considered pretty bassy.

[sage canyon]

Did not help when I tried to edit it

[lean grove]

🤔

You must have been doing it wrong

[sage canyon]

Prob

I can send the settings here tomorrow

[pure cave]

what programs u using

[sage canyon]

The same people who makes the banana sound thing

[pure cave]

i use equalizer apo + peace ui

[sage canyon]

But anyways, I want to get a wireless headset

[pure cave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

think this chat is more audiophile geared rather than gamer headsets

[sage canyon]

Yea

[pure cave]

i dont know a single pc headset with anc off the top of my head

i use open backs

[sage canyon]

What abt without anc?

[pure cave]

lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

sure someone will pop in

[lean grove]

@sage canyon you might like the meze 99. They have a pretty decent amount of bass, and they isolate well.

[red frigate]

What headphones should i get as an upgrade from my current dt770 pro's? Any recommendations?

[reef wagon]

This Behringer digital snake after 10 years died unexpectedly at a church on Easter morning. RIP.

[grand granite]

We had an ancient audio processor die on us on palm Sunday and we ended up using some floor wedges as the mains and physically routed the feed for the floor pocket outputs to be the LR mix

Also using X32, except it’s like 3 months old

[reef wagon]

Very unfortunate timing!

I was operating audio at a venue the same morning so I could not help. I felt bad that I couldn’t help. They ended up figuring out a backup solution themselves.

Love and hate the X32. Build quality is shit. The amount of support and audio people that know it, is tremendous.

[lean grove]

hifiman susvara

[haughty girder]

Yo this is acc hilarious

it's straight up the typical "devil boutta mess with the church sound system on Easter"

[sage canyon]

are they wireless?

[tawdry gale]

no

[tawdry gale]

4k usd? focal bathys mg

[sage canyon]

Thanks!

[oak dagger]

my experience with the WF-L900s has lead me to the conclusion that Sony may beat apple on headphones, but is SO far from them in earbud quality. got refurbs about a year or so ago for $50, and there's definite cause for such a price decrease.
they're uncomfortable, they don't stay with any of the adjustment clips provided of any size, and the charging pins are not consistent enough to guarantee charging at least on the left bud.

[forest aurora]

I have a slightly special need. Im looking for headphones that are:

• over ear
• open or closed doesnt matter
• wireless
• high audio quality
• as comfortable/light as possible

for use at my pc for working/gaming/listening to music. I dont need a microphone.

Having a good quality wired pair of headphones with a dedicated mic is very common, but having that pair be wireless not as much. Does anything come to mind for you guys?

i have the g pro x wireless (with the mic dongle unplugged) right now which are good audio for wireless but very heavy.

[left cypress]

Would plugging in one xlr cable to another to make it longer do anything to the audio singal

[warm silo]

nope

as long as you arent going thousands of feet lol

[obsidian urchin]

really wish this dac remembered being set to UAC 1 mode

[pallid linden]

have you thought about the AIAIAI headphones wireless editions?

[forest aurora]

they look amazing

thank yo uso much

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcastic-clap-gif-8766590078260538864

[molten lotus]

i think they are decent

[steel escarp]

@lean grove did u hear a fiio ft1 pro yet?

[lean grove]

headphones are low-fi

[steel escarp]

not true

more dynamic range and more detailed

still rocking the susvara, most of the issues I had with it went away now that I fixed the phase

[lean grove]

headphones are not worth investing in. juanphones are the last pair of audiophile headphones i buy and thats it

[steel escarp]

fiio ft1 pro is like 200 euros

its not even expensive for how good it is

[lean grove]

and i got more interesting things to spend money on

[steel escarp]

my car cost the same as my headphones

[lean grove]

i hope one day you look back at that statement and are glad that you dont live like this anymore 🙏

[zenith pawn]

can I have your headphones

Why

[steel escarp]

hell nah, they are way too expensive for that

[steel escarp]

spending on audio kinda stopped now that I have a susvara

[zenith pawn]

headphones so expensive they'll pass a law to require you to buy headphone insurance for them

[lean grove]

i got the smsl speakers and they're just such a more enjoyable experience than any of my headphones.

[steel escarp]

I have neumann kh120 in my living room, yesterday I finally got longer cables so I can get them further apart

[zenith pawn]

Do you need a well prepared room for it to be that good

[steel escarp]

they are good, but they can't do intimate vocals

[lean grove]

arguable. i would want more room treatment, but frankly just enough furniture and carpet to get rid of most of the echo is good enough

[steel escarp]

the problem with speakers is that you can't crank them at 2AM

[lean grove]

i dont crank my headphones anyways

i listen at pretty moderately low levels

[steel escarp]

I game at low volume

[lean grove]

i use a 15 watt speaker amp and have never needed more power.

[steel escarp]

but for watching movies and series I have it decently loud

a 15w speaker amp could not do susvara

[lean grove]

because you always need one more watt than you currently have

ever moving goalposts

[steel escarp]

no, because a speaker amp is made to have its highest wattage output near 4-8 ohms

and it drops off significantly the higher impedance you go

my current amp has like 3w for susvara's load, and its plenty

[zenith pawn]

is it better in terms of not requiring room treatment that I also listen quietly

I should buy speakers but I hate spending money

[steel escarp]

I would like to one day get hedd type 05 mk2 speakers, but I cannot for the love of god find measurements of them

and they are rare second hand, at least in good shape

[lean grove]

it drops of linearly. the difference is that the speaker amps usually dont have lower noise and prioritize current over voltage

but you are not using the fully 3 watts for your susvaras

[steel escarp]

if I was then I'd be deaf

[lean grove]

indeed

power for headphones is a meme.

they're piss easy to power unless you're doing something stupid like tungstens or k1k

[steel escarp]

117dB is the maximum I can get out of susvara with 3W

my amp seems to be able to deliver enough voltage

susvara is 83db sensitivity

power is a meme for anything except a select few headphones

[lean grove]

and half the people out there think that their very expensive boutique headphone is the "select few"

[steel escarp]

118dB requires over 3W

[lean grove]

are you listening at 118db

[steel escarp]

sensitivity is measured at 1kHz

not at 20Hz

if it does 110dB it supposedly has enough headroom for bass

[lean grove]

how much power do you need for 110db i wonder

[steel escarp]

to be completely honest, I don't know the exact specifics of how much it would need for the bass

110db needs 0.5W

[lean grove]

🤯

[steel escarp]

so my headroom should be pretty good

[lean grove]

a 15 watt speaker amp can do that no problem

with plenty of current to spare

[steel escarp]

ngl, I tried Susvara on a whole bunch of amps and didn't really hear a difference

don't speaker amps struggle with the voltage?

[lean grove]

no? they dont have as much voltage gain because they dont need it

[steel escarp]

also, I was able to tell the difference between dacs, as autistic as that sounds, but only when comparing a chord to any decent delta sigma dac

the SMSL dac I have is just yikes

[lean grove]

afaik the only amplifiers that shit the bed when you have a high impedance load into them is class D amps

but otherwise any amplifier will be happier playing with higher impedances than lower impedances

[steel escarp]

if it has 15w at 8 ohms it probably has like 2 watts at 60 ohms

[lean grove]

its 15w at 4 ohms

so 1 watt at 60

which it will happily do.

[steel escarp]

I wonder if the noise floor is good enough

[lean grove]

my amp is passable for iems

[steel escarp]

is it a sinad meme amp?

[lean grove]

https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/smsl-vmv-a1/

nope

[steel escarp]

nice

looks good

[lean grove]

there is this beautiful middle-ground for lower powered speaker amps meant for the desktop and headphones

the chord alto fits into it

[steel escarp]

I only have active speakers lol

CBA with passive speakers

chord alto is like 4k right?

[lean grove]

yeah

but its 50 watts into 40 ohms

idk if the speaker and headphones are on the same circuit

mine definitely i s

https://www.lineartubeaudio.com/products/z10e-electrostatic-headphone-amp-integrated-amp

[steel escarp]

about 3.33W at 60 ohms

[lean grove]

well the headphone out is rated for 2.1 watts into 32 ohms so maybe not the same circuit or its voltage limited

[steel escarp]

I see

[lean grove]

this ones 3 watts into 32 ohms

[steel escarp]

im just happy with my violectric v222

[lean grove]

yeah that things got voltage for days

[steel escarp]

I think Violectric added some linear distortion on that thing to make it sound more full bodied

its warm

they do that on some of their other stuff too

btw @lean grove , you gotta try a chord dac
get a mojo 2 second hand for like 300 and hook it up to ur amp

chord is one of the only few dac manufacturers that actually has really accurate transients reconstruction

you will get audibly better dynamic range

besides that there is no difference, it's build in EQ is really nice tho

[proven blaze]

i wanna get a speaker for my pc

i mainly game listen to music and watch yt

cant use headset alot cuz doctor said no no 😦

any recommendation

budget is around 150$

[red quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-yzQ7XGP1M

[zenith pawn]

why would you want to play 10 hz

you cant even hear it

[red quest]

No clue

[hard fjord]

Hi! Does anyone know of a good budget microphone that won't max out when i scream into it, I'm a youtuber and every time I play horror games and I scream my mic maxes out really bad and it sounds awful and you cant hear what I'm saying. budget of $50

or if there's a way to make my mic stop maxxing out when I scream, this is the mic I currently have https://a.co/d/e00DDpD

[warm scarab]

tall order for 50$ honestly

lower your gain

[hard fjord]

how much would a microphone that I need cost

[warm scarab]

if you lower your gain potentially not much

try that on your current mic

[hard fjord]

Okay, would that make my voice sound too quiet when I do regular videos with talking though?

[warm scarab]

get closer to the mic

and it may make your overall voice lower

you can boost your voice digitally if needed a bit

but it will make you avoid hardware clipping

[hard fjord]

how do I turn down gain in obs studio

[warm scarab]

do you not have a gain knob on your microphone?

[zenith pawn]

set the gain to 0 in obs if it's not already, if it's above 0 then it could be causing clipping too

but more likely you need to mess with gain on the mic itself

[hard fjord]

no it's a budget mic, I like the quality good but when I scream that's when it's kind of a problem, but no other issues with the mic so

Let me send a clip of what I'm talking about and see what y'all think

[warm scarab]

okay then you cant make use of the advice I gave you

just get away from the mic and increase the digital gain if you need to

that will help

[hard fjord]

so I don't know what it's called when it makes your voice sound really distorted but this is the issue I'm having with it, if I can't fix the settings on this mic what mic would you guys possibly recommend me to purchase

[warm scarab]

have you digitally increased your mic's volume?

[zenith pawn]

Are there multiple people there? Anwyays clipping is the word in this case

[warm scarab]

it doesnt sound like preamp clipping so im not sure what the issue is

it may be the microphone not having diaphragm headroom

[hard fjord]

no

[hard fjord]

no just me, and my birds but I don't record with them usually

[warm scarab]

I don't want to propose this is a surefire solution but

fifine t669 may be a half decent mic upgrade within 50$

you can try it out and return it if it doesn't meet your expectations

you have 30 days to decide whether you want to return it or not on amazon

[hard fjord]

alrighty

thanks

[warm scarab]

np

also try adjusting your distance with the t669 if you have similar issues

though I reckon it should be way better than the clip you sent

[dull trout]

try edifier

[stone quartz]

Is there any reason for a speaker to use a foam surround other than cost cutting?

From what I've gathered, they all perish eventually and leave the speaker pretty much inoperable

[warm scarab]

are you asking why aren't they using another material?

there are rubber ones but they are said to make the sound worse

you can buy and apply them

[proven blaze]

mr4 or 12800dbs?

[dull trout]

MR4 is kind of a cheap monitoring speakers, the 12800dbs is more for casual listening

[proven blaze]

then what is good ?

for gaming and music watching yt...

[dull trout]

which do you prefer? me personally, the 12800dbs. monitoring speakers can get quite boring for common users

[proven blaze]

wdym which one i prefer i havent tried any speakers yet so im not knowledgeable that side of things

thats why i was asking for advice which to use

[proven blaze]

wdym by boring

[dull trout]

meaning do you like a speakers that sounds fun (bassy, lively, has characters) or simply um... just pure sound with not much else (flat with some bass boost)?

[proven blaze]

fun yes!!

[dull trout]

in that case 12800dbs, the MR4 here is kind of flat sounding with some bass extension to it. you'd need to equalize manually for it to be fun

[proven blaze]

wb 1700bt?

[dull trout]

this im not so sure, never used them before

[proven blaze]

so u have 12800?

[dull trout]

i had them with MR4

sold them after i went full IEM

[proven blaze]

i dont like iem never found a good fit for my ears

and doc said no more using lot of in ear shi or headsets 😦

[dull trout]

just need good eartips or find iem's with smaller nozzles but id rather not go further

road will go deeper from there lol

[proven blaze]

thx for advice

will go for 12800dbs

[dull trout]

goodluck

have fun

maybe throw another 10 dollars to get cheap usb dongle dac

[proven blaze]

why is that?

[dull trout]

more power, also a usb dongle dac are usually much better than whatever your motherboard has

or your laptop onboard dac has if youre on laptop

[proven blaze]

on a pc

[dull trout]

hm, if you dont mind spending 5-10 dollars more, Jcally JM4Pro is a good cheap dac

[proven blaze]

not available where i live 💔

[proven blaze]

anything else?

[dull trout]

hm, why not try out with motherboard audio first

if you find them lacking, try getting a dac

or you can equalize on your own first

whichever is easier

[proven blaze]

by equalizing u mean play around with the knobs till i find something gud for my ears 😓

[proven blaze]

plug it in my mobos optical port right

[dull trout]

uh, not quite

auto eq is there as well

can just cut and paste

but that is for when you find your speakers being meh

for now lets just get that speakers first

[proven blaze]

ong 😸

[dull trout]

eh i dont think the dbs has optical

they do have 3.5mm jacks tho

oh wait they do

in that case yeah just go optical

[proven blaze]

aight

going for the dbs one

cuz bluetooth

asw

[dull trout]

should be fine, theyre plenty for anything you want to do with it

[obsidian urchin]

Anyone else with a fosi ds1 notice a lot of bus noise/squealing on the right ear during quieter bits in songs? Kinda disappointed tbh.

[verbal fog]

i finally convinced my friend to get a big old powerful receiver to use for his headphones and he did and its wild how much better it is than it just coming from his weird 4 output uh cheap amp thing its fun

[viscid cove]

Would austrian audio Hi X15 headphones need to be plugged in anything else than the audio jack in my mobo? They say they're 25 ohms impedance. They're more intended for professional work than just regular use. I have a b550 gaming xv2 rev 1.3 mobo

[forest aurora]

I have a Behringer U-Phoria UM2, will that sufficiently drive Senneheiser HD650s?

[uneven drum]

What ado we think of Boston cr6s for back

And cr7s for the mains

Similar year and model center and base

[uneven roost]

anyone here can advise me on bluetooth headphones?

sony xm4's for 230$ or Senheiser momentum 4's for 270$?

[zinc rain]

Folks, what would be the most effective upgrade to my audio setup without buying entirely new headphones and mic. Currently I simply run 560S’s and an AT2020USB straight to my pc.

[buoyant vale]

You could paint some go faster stripes on your gear

[supple sand]

if anyone has the Crusher Anc 2s would you reccomend it?

im thinking of these because they are on a great sale in my walmart for like 120 dollars n normally they are like 220

[zinc rain]

I can’t recommend anything remotely related to crushers

if you think loud = funny and bass = good then go for it

[nova wagon]

a mic arm if you haven't had one already?

[zinc rain]

feel like it would be in the way more than help tbh lol

[nova wagon]

10 dollar or whatever the current price is apple dongle for your headphone?
or any cx31993 dongle thingy
I doubt that you have any problem with static noise, just throwing out ideas

[zinc rain]

Like should I add like a dac

Or an interface or whatever like idek lol

[nova wagon]

an interface is only necessary if your mic runs on xlr/has an xlr out option like the samson q2u
You might be interested in source gear for your headphone only (dac, amp or dac/amp combo)

[zinc rain]

Ah. Any recommendations? What’s the main benefits?

[nova wagon]

DAC gives you cleaner signal, AMP gives more power, and sometime changes in how the headphone sounds (tube amplifier)
for any headphone, you don't really need either if you already have a low noise input and the headphone is loud enough for you.

as for specific recommendation, I have none so maybe other people will chime in if they like

[zinc rain]

Ah okay. Afaik my 560S’s have a pretty high sensitivity so I guess I don’t need one. I think they get plenty loud as I find myself turning my volume down in games quite often lol

[buoyant vale]

560s are really easy to drive and not known to scale

just save for nicer headphones if you want an improvement

[nova wagon]

Your current gear is basically plug and play, so an improvement would most likely means new headphones and mic and then maybe new source equipment

[zinc rain]

I’m happy with my headphone quality at the moment but i definitely wouldn’t mind a better mic. The AT2020USB sounds.. okay.. but wouldn’t be mad if I had something better.

Maybe it’s time to step up to an XLR mic?

[nova wagon]

Maybe?
XLR is basically a different platform, basically the de facto standard in audio recording
so the options would be much wider compare to USB mics. Quality will vary of course, but that goes without saying

[zinc rain]

Idk I feel like I could just EQ my current mic and it would be better but idk what I’m doing in that regard

[zenith pawn]

depends what you want to change

some things dont really change with eq, or have bad side effects

you should try it and see with your mic

[zinc rain]

I find my current mic kinda “thin” sounding if that makes sense? It also gets like super blown out if I have my mic volume any higher than 80% in windows

[nova wagon]

I think EposVox on youtube has a bunch of guide on how to do post processing? that should be a good start imo
A lot of people see post processing as the final touch up for the mic output, so don't go too hard on the sliders

[zinc rain]

I gotcha. I’ll look into it for sure

[warm scarab]

id recommend them if they were 50$

or somewhere around

[supple sand]

i mean

[warm scarab]

its absolutely not worth 220$

and also not 120$

[supple sand]

decent anc, good bass atleast with the boost on

[warm scarab]

its not good bass

its just loud bass

[supple sand]

sound quality not too bad since im not an audiophile i js want a lot of noise

[warm scarab]

audio file

[supple sand]

good for listening to music n js casual movies n stuff

[warm scarab]

I don't see why it has to be crushers to fit into this criteria

the bass slider is a novelty that wears off fast

[warm silo]

yall, a friend just gave me a stack of krell amps and pre-amps

for free

shit weighed 500lbs

[warm scarab]

jesus fuck

cheapest of those go for 500$ here

[supple sand]

not a slider

on the anc 2s

[warm scarab]

regardless of what it is

[supple sand]

js a button

[warm silo]

the models i got go for like $7000 on ebay

[warm scarab]

thats so much worse

[supple sand]

also

[warm scarab]

at least with the 1st one you could adjust the bass so it doesnt sound terrible

[supple sand]

i dont think there is any better headphones for 120 bucks

[warm scarab]

now it doesnt even have that lol

[warm silo]

now to find some speakers that match these amps

[supple sand]

if u have a reccomendation ill listen

[warm scarab]

check the bose qc45

35 if unavailable

[supple sand]

u still can adjust the bass its js not a slider more like a scrol wheel

[supple sand]

330 bucks 💀

[warm scarab]

ok

overpriced asf

[supple sand]

yeaah

[warm scarab]

check qc35

also

dont get the crusher 2 bro

thats an awful graph

[dull trout]

but like shaky bass driver bro

[supple sand]

200 bucks

what about the whch720n?

[warm scarab]

you should have asked for advice 2 years ago while jbl was still making n700nc mkII

[lean grove]

Check Ugreen max5

[warm scarab]

awful

[supple sand]

💀

[warm scarab]

better than skull candies tbh

but like

not good by any means

[warm scarab]

this looks surprisingly decent

but weird peaks all across lol

[lean grove]

They're pretty good

[supple sand]

what about the quality?

build quality

[warm scarab]

its 25$

[supple sand]

what about 770nc

[warm scarab]

you could get 5 of them for the cost of one evo 2

[supple sand]

100 bucks

[warm scarab]

this looks really good on rtings charts

ill look into it more

[supple sand]

thanks

i have few choices

[lean grove]

I haven't broken it yet. Had it for 4 months now. Sleep with them on and throw them around a decent amount.

[supple sand]

the 770nc the sony n anc 2s still

[warm scarab]

770nc looks pretty solid

but the noise cancelling is very uh

subpar

jbl tune 710 is also a decent one if you dont care about noise cancelling

@lean grove how is anc on max 5

[supple sand]

what about whfr400 rf

[warm scarab]

I don't think sony makes any good wireless headphones

[supple sand]

would be nice to have but not a need so ill check that one out

[warm scarab]

they typically have great anc and thats about it

[warm scarab]

i dont really know

i only found charts for the extra bass one

which looks shit

[zenith pawn]

it is a bad sign when the treble looks like the Appalachians

[warm scarab]

im more concerned about the bass

and mids

[zenith pawn]

how is it everything and nothing at the same time

[supple sand]

what about the bass on the jbl

[warm scarab]

its nice

slightly emphasized bass

nothing much to say

but it doesnt fuck up the profile unlike crushers

[supple sand]

thanks for the help ill watch some reviews on them

[warm scarab]

reviews will just say to buy whichever is expensive

because they get more money from affiliate links in their descriptions that way

youtube reviews will never recover from the affiliate link crisis

[supple sand]

real

well ill go to my walmart

see what they have

n if there isnt anything better ill get the anc 2s n if the sound quality is shit ill js return it n get smth else

cuz i used one that a friend has he has the evo not the anc 2 so i js wanna check it out will see how it turns out

[lean grove]

Fine. Not amazing.

[molten lotus]

nuh uh

u can trust louis rossman reviews or the pc security channel

[warm scarab]

wow exceptions

[zenith pawn]

does he even use affiliate links

[molten lotus]

louis does but he recommends what he genuinely believes is good

is it affiliate idk

[warm scarab]

louis is good

hope futo doesnt die

[molten lotus]

i swear louis advertises products

sometimes

[zenith pawn]

yeah I bought the hot air station he recommenddd

[molten lotus]

like grapehenos

[warm scarab]

ive not seen him use affiliate links but he does recommend stuff he likes

[molten lotus]

ngl

i lost all respect for mrwhosetheboss

used to be good, fell off

its like people recommending

the uhm

soundcore

HOW ARE U RECOMMEND THIS

i get why people advertise bose and sony cus the ANC is unrivalled

but why this 😭

[warm scarab]

people will buy 1 headphone and start recommending it because it can produce sound

[molten lotus]

🤣

for me because i have disabilities

i only buy for ANC

take that as you will

im biased

anc doesnt equal good sound

at least not yet

unfortunately

[molten lotus]

also if he advertises stuff

is it pretty safe to say its good to buy

[molten lotus]

the 4xms are prety good

the xm5 are ehhh

people say it breaks a lot

hopefully the xm6s are better

[molten lotus]

pls dont

EVER

BUY THIS

my friend hated it

a lot

[warm scarab]

they are ok

wouldn't call them good

[livid ruin]

both are below average for the high price

so not good

[molten lotus]

yall gonna shit on my headphones then

💀

[zenith pawn]

my right iem has some small dents in it

[dawn panther]

Just got Klipsch The Sevens for 450 usd. How'd I do

[chilly prawn]

thoughts on the jamo 38s?

[supple sand]

alr

well

my easiest and most approachable choice is the ANC 2s

so ill js get them in a day or two

[warm scarab]

we literally recommend you like 3 other headphones

[supple sand]

my friend has the jbls he aint a fan of it

[dawn panther]

I like these speakers they get a 👍

[supple sand]

n the 30 dollar one is from a brand that is good at making chargers

n ur bose reccomendations are very good but also expensive asf

so it leaves me out with the crusher anc 2s

i have money to get the boses but i need to get new cleats for soccer so i rather save up a bit for them

[slender river]

Hi im looking for some headphones budget is 150 us dolars they could be used or new its for gaming and also to listen to music

[onyx perch]

I'd recommend used Sony xm4s but it's hard for me to recommend anything used these days so don't take it as advice

Xm4 is your best bet though, a lot of them used

[warm scarab]

ugreen is a really reputable brand I don't know what else you want

[supple sand]

well from the reviews it js looks cheap low quality product

smth tjmaxx has next to the register ykwim

i want smth like a gym headset or casual music headset

i wont really use them all the time anyways i got good earbuds for daily use

so i think the anc 2 is a solid choice to me

[supple sand]

xm4s for gaming?

naaah

[supple sand]

if u want smth for pc only

[slender river]

Pc only

[supple sand]

go with a good gaming headset im pretty sure theyll be good enough for casual music

[warm scarab]

wait you are going to game with them?

[supple sand]

but if u want smth more gaming focused atleast go with smth able to cable

[supple sand]

not me

[warm scarab]

oh the guy he replied to

[supple sand]

its what this guy said

[supple sand]

yeah

[warm scarab]

pc38x

[rough dew]

Is xm5 bad for gaming? My old headphones broke and have a regular everyday xm5 so🤷‍♂️

[warm scarab]

its better than the crushers lmao

[slender river]

Dayz fifa hell let lose buy i also want to listen to music at studio lvl

[supple sand]

well its bluetooth

[warm scarab]

you cant do studio level with bluetooth

you dont have asio drivers

and you have delay on top of that

[supple sand]

maybe for normal audio but not for bass which i care about

[supple sand]

.

[slender river]

It would be nice if there wired and no microphone on them

[supple sand]

exactly

[warm scarab]

crushers dont have good bass

its just loud chief

its a fart cannon

[supple sand]

ik

thats what i like

n i can get for cheap lol

[rough dew]

Fairs fairs

[slender river]

Some one told me the hd 560s are a good option

[supple sand]

i need to buy smth else before my vacation so i have like 130 bucks n crusher anc2s are the best choice for js casual music

for the price

[warm scarab]

dt880 250ohm would be nice

[warm scarab]

they are decent headphones yeah but

id hold the dt880 250ohm a bit higher than them in regards to studio applications

and for competitive gaming

they are much more directional

[supple sand]

well yeah but they might be a bit out of ur budget

[warm scarab]

hd560s go for like 110€ in europe

sometimes

they go on discount for 107€ typically

[supple sand]

i saw em brand new for like 230 js a moment ago

[slender river]

Im SA but i can get new or used i dont really care about that

[supple sand]

💀

[supple sand]

well there are some used ones for 110-130

[warm scarab]

well regardless of hd560s cost

if you want to do studio shit i recommend dt880 over 560s

and if you want to do gaming

[supple sand]

what about the epos H6 pro

[warm scarab]

no dude

wtf

its trash

[supple sand]

js sayin

[warm scarab]

oh wait

im stupid i thought you meant the corsair ones

[supple sand]

💀

noooooo

or what about the MMX 300

[warm scarab]

all worse than dt880 for studio applications

[supple sand]

well

he said its for gaming

soo

[warm scarab]

and for gaming

[supple sand]

not studio

[warm scarab]

lol

[supple sand]

🤷‍♂️

[warm scarab]

he said he will do studio applications with it

[slender river]

Looks good but mic is not what im looking for tbh

[warm scarab]

wait you want to listen at a studio level

[slender river]

Yeah basically i need something that i could game with but also listen to music in a good quality

[supple sand]

well for 150 bucks roccat had good headsets for gaming with big drivers that souded good but they dissappeared

i still own the syn air max its pretty good but no software support any more which sucks

[slender river]

What about a 200 to 300 budget ?

[warm scarab]

swine on his way to recommend 500 headphones he has not listened to in case one of them is good

[supple sand]

real

[slender river]

Xd

[supple sand]

also i listened to some of em

[warm scarab]

you said you are from saudi arabia right?

[supple sand]

js dont own them

[slender river]

SA= south america

[warm scarab]

maybe in the american sphere lmao

[slender river]

Hahaha sorry about that

[supple sand]

well the headsets are prob more expensive there anyways

[warm scarab]

if you really want to stretch the budget

id advise edition xs on b stock from hifiman's website

and an amplifier like ifi zen can to drive them with

zen can air if you cant afford the base zen can

[slender river]

Mmm

Sounds good

[warm scarab]

if you want to not blow it out of proportion and want to peak out on gaming performance

dt880

[supple sand]

bros gonna make the dude create a full on setup 🗿

[warm scarab]

its also used in a lot of studios so it is literally "studio quality" listening

but they use it moreso because its durable rather than sounding amazing lol

same with dt770 and m50x

[slender river]

Ill look into those used i can probably get a good deal

[warm scarab]

k

there is also the 6xx route if you dont like planar sound signature of hifimans

at the 300$ budget a lot of people will choose between planars and dynamics and stick to it religiously and be involved in gang violence afterwards

[supple sand]

this looks so good

[warm scarab]

idk its beyer they got like 1 good headphone

they would go down in flames if their headphones werent built like tanks

[slender river]

What about the ath-m50x ? Just saw ones for 150 bucks on market place

[supple sand]

lets say i got infinite money but i want a headset i could daily basically the best all around bluetooth headset what would u reccomend

[warm scarab]

if you had infinite money the economy would collapse and you wouldnt be able to get any headphones

[supple sand]

js tell me

i meant like if i had a lot of budget to spend on a bluetooth headset for best of everything

what comes to your mind

[warm scarab]

honestly the bluetooth market is mostly for normal consumers

there could be a fuck ton of innovation possible but like

there is really not much improvement no matter how much you pay

because there is zero demand for it

most bt headphones literally disappear after you pass like the 500$ mark

[slender river]

@warm scarab

[supple sand]

well im js asking what you would reccomend with the criteria i gave you

[warm scarab]

and then you only have like the b&o headphones after that which are really just overpriced to hell

[supple sand]

the xm5s? the bose ones

[supple sand]

real

[warm scarab]

ive no idea honestly never looked that much into the high end bt headphone since most people call it a day at 300 max

[warm scarab]

really shit

[slender river]

Mmm

[supple sand]

cheapest b&o is like 600 bucks lol

[warm scarab]

its one of those that got popular because it has something that resembles a "neutral" sound profile

while being durable

[warm scarab]

yeah its just a brand company now

they dont do good items anymore just overpriced ones

[slender river]

Ty for the help boys

[supple sand]

400 for earbuds 💀

[warm scarab]

np

[supple sand]

i mean the headsets def look good

especially with charles leclerc using them

[warm scarab]

i mean yeah

[supple sand]

butlike u said idk who is willing to spend 1500 on headsets

[warm scarab]

they mostly appeal to fashion and being for rich people™️ than for enthusiasts

[warm scarab]

a lot of people its just that none of those are worth their cost

its just there for people with money that dont know better

[supple sand]

anyways if i become a billionare one day

u are someone ill trust my movie theatre room with

js so yk lol

[warm scarab]

lol

but nah I couldn't do a movie room

call actual pros for that they have so many resources for it

[supple sand]

lol facts

[pulsar gorge]

Bought this at walmart for 26 bucks

[gray wharf]

so what is a good headset? i have the virtuoso rgb wireless from a couple of years ago when it first came out. and it fell last night and kinda just shit itself. so,... now i have to find a new one and was wondering across the board what is a good headset to replace?

[warm scarab]

budget

[haughty girder]

good price despite really mediocre mic

where's the arm connected to tho?

[civic beacon]

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best

[civic beacon]

https://www.soundguys.com/gaming-headsets/

[onyx perch]

You can use xm4 via aux

For low latency

Xm4 highest quality

Over some razor overrgbed bs

All shit

For a PC open backs like the hd600 are nice

Get listening headphones and use them for gaming

I use my airpods pro for gaming sometimes

[somber frigate]

if i have audio spliter and i plug in tow sound out puts in to it could it damage anything ?

what i have is my google tv audio going in to the splitter and my pc audio and then they both out put to my headphones

[hollow lantern]

What is a good microphone thats not overpriced? I am currently using my old razer kracken headset sitting on my desk as my mic

[nova wagon]

razer seiren mini, hyperx solocast, whatevey fifine is churning out today
a step up on that would be audio technica at2020usb, samson q2u, elgato wave 1

[stone quartz]

Does anyone know if these are any good? I'm looking for some mics to embed in my ceiling for a smart-home assistant setup.

[warm scarab]

yes don't do this

it will sound terrible anyways

[cold spindle]

Eh only issue really is back feeding tho yeah you probably don't use them both at the same time better idea is just 2 extension and swap your headphones over when needed

[warm scarab]

outputting an amplifier's output into another amplifier will break it

not instantly but it will eventually die

[somber frigate]

hmm

dame

[warm scarab]

get a mixer

[somber frigate]

might have to

get 2k $ mixer

[warm scarab]

you can get one for 40$ second hand

[somber frigate]

yeah

[graceful canopy]

is sennheiser 560s for 100$ good?

[warm scarab]

yeah pretty decent id say

[hollow lantern]

https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-SoloCast-Microphone-Tap-Mute/dp/B08KFL3SFV/ref=mp_s_a_1_4_maf_1?adgrpid=162639108600&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2B_-hBIst4PEo8u57N-Se05DM-aoFvlNbOtLq2c0EJsFRF7oCr-gqjOo94L8WwN7iaOBkJXedSt--ZeyfHpcvQ3XoCDHqwkRMi7V7d3U74QDdETl88-GEVQWI6qvkQxmEwj6wll3opXdaKADf2z0R7X9ciVJLPYPdM9MnxVn5MRdciB8xLpf4rYDUs9a2jhslwSlAtHE_r49YrBMtPmEAQ.l1Lrv0uFYQQNWP4uig8KrFjp8fwxtRonGfdo3YLGBOc&dib_tag=se&hvadid=694579693643&hvdev=m&hvexpln=68&hvlocphy=9012508&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=12061148156056912739--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=12061148156056912739&hvtargid=kwd-318088435880&hydadcr=19525_13537938&keywords=hyperx+mic&mcid=78b4d36fcb243a99b854e2f03698d71e&qid=1745966752&sr=8-4

Is the v3 better? It’s only 5 bucks more

[nova frost]

I have the GSP600. EPOS took $100 off. great for a sound blaster soundcard. I just use the old software

mic on it is meh but most of use use boom mic's unless ya wanna spend over $8k for one 😛

[supple sand]

@warm scarab do you think the Sony Ult wears are a better but than the Crusher ANC 2s?

[raven cloud]

guys should i get a Roland ep-90 for $75? it needs hammer action maintenance but im fairly confident i could fix it

ping me. thanks

[warm scarab]

idk

actually no

its ass

just checked

[supple sand]

well

either that or the crusher anc 2s

the ult wears have a more real bass tho

since its actuall bass instead of haptic

wellit has better anc

on par/worse build quality

less feautures overall

but a better sound quality

and real bass

[zenith pawn]

i am scared to ask what haptic bass is

[warm scarab]

a vibrator

[supple sand]

basically motors that vibrate to give u a more bass-y feeling

[zenith pawn]

is it supposed to have an advantage over a speaker driver

[warm scarab]

its cheaper

[supple sand]

well its cheaper

[zenith pawn]

it sounds like it would sound really bad

im just imagining my phone vibration motor

[supple sand]

n if u like the feeling of a sub woofer in a 2009 civic

[warm scarab]

it can be good if done well

[supple sand]

yes like that but with bass

[warm scarab]

(they didn't do it well)

its efficient to transmit low frequencies through solids

[supple sand]

skullcandy?

i mean yeah

[warm scarab]

bass shakers are for that purpose

[zenith pawn]

(i would hate it because i hate feeling bass)

[supple sand]

its js a lot of bass

[warm scarab]

its just that this is a stupid bass shaker

it also violently vibrates your driver

[supple sand]

well still idk if i should get the ultwears or the crushrs

[warm scarab]

the 25$ headphone is like

still better than either of those

aside from anc quality just maybe

[supple sand]

well tbh most people say the audio without the bass on the sonys are like the xm4s

which people like

n if u want with the ult modes u can js double the bass 2 times

so its compelling but im not sure if i want the sonys or the skullcandies

[warm scarab]

ignorant purchasers don't make smart ones

[warm scarab]

its not bass 2 times

2 times on a decibel level is 3dB

and for human hearing its like 5dB

that shit is like

20dB louder

[supple sand]

exactly

[warm scarab]

yeah and that isnt good

[supple sand]

well i like a ton of bass

[warm scarab]

it literally just means you get to hear the bass of the music

and nothing else

and it distorts the shit out of other frequencies while producing that bass

[supple sand]

i mean technically speaking the crushers have worse overall sound quality, worse anc and feautrues