#audio-tech

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haughty girder
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yes

warm scarab
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address?

haughty girder
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4:3 is only good if it's a big ol monitor like 3 inches from your face

warm scarab
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where do you live

haughty girder
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in ur walls

warm scarab
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i dont have any

haughty girder
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damn mb

modern solstice
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Isn‘t this audio tech?

stuck bear
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hello peeps

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which one is better to use as audio software, elgato wavelink or steelseries's sonar?

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like in term beginner friendly, overall mastery?

calm maple
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I don't use either, but I've heard better things about Elgato

stuck bear
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okay, what's your suggestions?

reef sage
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guys can someone help me pls

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My audio keeps cutting out while playing (not in every game) I updated drivers and everything, reset the device, re-paired the headphones but nothing helped

calm maple
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Use in wired mode as a workaround?

minor patio
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Need new mic setup what would y'all recommend for gaming with some buddies and light streaming/YouTube for around $200

calm maple
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I like the Razer Seiren Pro, but there are probably better options if you have $200 to spend

terse river
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The v3 chroma is somewhat better, and it costs 120 bucks

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It’s alright, though some are likely better for the price. It does have plenty of quality for your use case, so I would just get it or something with similar audio quality and save your money

calm maple
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Why do you think the V3 Chroma is better than the V2 Pro?

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I know I didn't specify the V2 pro

terse river
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V3 has condenser capsule while the v2 has dynamic capsule

calm maple
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Ah I was not aware of that

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Do you think it would be worth upgrading from a V2 Pro to the V3 Chroma?

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Probably not, but it feels like Razer is overdue for a new Seiren

terse river
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I wouldn’t

warm scarab
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also waste of money to spend 120$ on a usb mic

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you can get an xlr setup for that much

minor patio
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i was looking into maybe the Tonor TD510

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any thoughts anyone

calm maple
terse river
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I know what it is, but I’m also def not a professional

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I got my mic as a gift

calm maple
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So if the Chroma isn't worth it I'll keep what I have

warm scarab
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do you have a reason to upgrade

calm maple
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Not really, I just like my friends to be able to hear me well in discord calls

warm scarab
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can they not do that with the v2 pro?

calm maple
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It sounds okay, but nothing compared to what I hear streamers have

warm scarab
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streamers don't sound good because they own exceptional mics

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they just know how to configure them and use them well

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sm7b which is the most popular streaming microphone is something that you can compete with using 20$ xlr mics

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this isn't an issue or a situation you can change by throwing money at it, you will have to improve your mic technique, adjust noise gate, eq and improve dictation

calm maple
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Yeah I tend to mumble a lot

warm scarab
calm maple
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I guess a mic can't fix that

warm scarab
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honestly td510 is very very warm

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if you have a deep voice you may want to avoid it

lean grove
calm maple
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Do you have any recommendations? Can I even use one with a USB mic lol

warm scarab
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its software

calm maple
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Mmm... I don't think audio is my forte

red quest
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How can i fix this?

lean grove
mental portal
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Aight coolermaster what y'all doing? XD

terse river
spring sky
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Anybody got recc on IEMs that are a step up from the truthear Hexas
Limit of $200

tawdry gale
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(hoping its under 200)

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(its definitely under 300)

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or if u want an iem rn, magicone

spring sky
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The wh

tawdry gale
spring sky
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Project meta? At $250

tawdry gale
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Project reference

spring sky
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Oh the one next to it

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I see

tawdry gale
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dont know the final price yet

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it could be under 200

tawdry gale
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from my demo at canjam

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its a good iem

spring sky
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Oo

tawdry gale
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so 🤷‍♂️

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Reference will also be limited

spring sky
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Oh

tawdry gale
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though its bass is more focused on the midbass

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compared to hexa

spring sky
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How do they compare in sound quality though? That’s what I like a lot being able to hear even the small details of moving between strings on instruments

tawdry gale
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magicone is better than hexa too

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both also have better bass response than hexa

spring sky
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Oh good

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Ok
Have they said anything about the reference release date?

spring sky
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Rip

tawdry gale
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meta released yesterday

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and sold out in 40 minutes(500 units)

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today it sold out in 25 minutes(499 units)

spring sky
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DAMN

tawdry gale
# spring sky DAMN

they might make reference, meta and daybreak a permanent release but it prob wont be this year and prices will be higher

spring sky
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:(

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Idk I’ll prolly just pick up those magic ones
I don’t like constantly checking for a release date

tawdry gale
tawdry gale
mint echo
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hey all, me again

Picked up the pair of rokit 7s and they're pretty great so far!
One issue; while I have them connected to my interface, with the interface connected to my laptop, there's very little hiss, honestly barely noticable.
When I connect the interface to any of the usb ports on my desktop, there's a very noticable inconsistant humming noise. I also noticed the noise changes when, for exmaple, alt tabbing on my keyboard.

Any clue? Was going to order some better xlr cables, since my current 6.3mm jacks aren't balanced cables. It's odd to me as they sound perfect on my laptop, but not on my desktop.

lean grove
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USB noise is hard to fix.

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Something like the jds labs synapse but it might not be able to deliver enough power to your interface

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If your interface can be powered by an external power supply then it won't be an issue

mint echo
lost wigeon
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Rq 880s or 990s mainly for mixing/mastering

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Looking to replace my mangled 990s

tawdry gale
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if ur talking about beyerdynamics, I would recommend hd560s over them

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or hd6xx(if ur in the US)

lost wigeon
tawdry gale
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6xx is a repainted hd650

hidden pendant
elder thistle
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I'd still take 990 250r over modern hd560s though. that extra instrument separation is important

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hd6xx has dynamics appropriate for headphone mixing

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so does the mackie mc450, which is similar to an upgraded dt990 with less bass volume

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I produce/mix edm and trance-esque stuff

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occasionally

zinc rain
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Can anyone recommend some affordable, but decent quality desktop speakers?

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Smaller bookshelf speakers would be nice

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Preferably USB or 3.5mm Jack. I don’t have a DAC or AMP or anything like that

exotic yacht
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kz edx pro for $3.5, insta buy?

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hater

buoyant vale
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whats not to hate?

exotic yacht
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substantiate your opinion

buoyant vale
elder thistle
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I've seen this happen with truthear iems too

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kinda just the nature of the device

dull trout
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been a fiio/kinera guy since then KEKW

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*disclaimer: did get dq6s just to hear the difference, the qc on this one is better ish, been 4 months now so lets see

buoyant vale
dull trout
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but their desktop speakers (at least a good one) isnt that cheap either

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*mostly because they added a 35w gan charger on it and rgb lights

zinc rain
warm silo
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You would need an xlr to 3.5

steel escarp
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Chord Mojo 2 is a vibe for IEMs

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would recommend

lean grove
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@warm silo d3v is the latest hotness

zinc rain
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them mfs ugly

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lmao

tawdry gale
exotic yacht
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how come

tawdry gale
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and qc and build is terrible

exotic yacht
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interesting

exotic yacht
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nope

tawdry gale
exotic yacht
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romania

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yknow how aliexpress has that coin system

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yeah apparently that reduced the price by 66%

exotic yacht
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so i might just order the KZ for the fun of it, get introduced into the world of IEMs, and if its not half bad ill maybe decide to shell out more

tawdry gale
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its absolute shit

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wan'er is decent

exotic yacht
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and 5x the price

tawdry gale
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with welcome deal

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wan'er

exotic yacht
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and then i gotta make another account?

tawdry gale
lean grove
exotic yacht
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hm

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you sold me

tawdry gale
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gotta abuse the welcome deals

exotic yacht
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its 37

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you scammed me 💔

tawdry gale
exotic yacht
tawdry gale
tawdry gale
exotic yacht
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if shipping is free ill buy them

exotic yacht
exotic yacht
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says 37

tawdry gale
exotic yacht
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yes

tawdry gale
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very strange

exotic yacht
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yknow what

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@tawdry gale if theyre that good, ill invest

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it says $3.80 in the payment page

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weird

tawdry gale
exotic yacht
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ill hold you accountable if theyre bad

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the moment i switch to romania its back to $8

tawdry gale
exotic yacht
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they racist

tawdry gale
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maybe shipping to romania is expensive

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so they change the price

exotic yacht
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yeah

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free shipping but increase the cost

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bit scummy but whatever, im sure they will be better than any earbud at this price

tawdry gale
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8 dollar for wan'er still very good price

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mrsp is like 19

warm scarab
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its the customs cost chief

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they arent arbitrarily racist

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different taxes apply

exotic yacht
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fair

tawdry gale
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its quite fragile

exotic yacht
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dont say that after i order it

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bruh

tawdry gale
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but wan'er is above average

exotic yacht
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oh the horror

tawdry gale
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in fragileness

exotic yacht
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yeah theyre dead

tawdry gale
exotic yacht
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yknow i know its not the same thing at all but what i loved about my cloud 2s is that i dropped them 50 times and theyre barely scratched

haughty girder
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I prefer it over Wan'er, plus has a really good stock cable for an iem under 100 bucks

exotic yacht
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someone convinced me of smth else already

haughty girder
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Wan'er 2 is also releasing soon

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Comes with seemingly decent cable and tang sancai eartips

exotic yacht
haughty girder
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xd

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ayt

elder thistle
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I've used stuff from dollar store that's more resolving as-is because there isnt an impact crater in the treble

exotic yacht
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which ones

elder thistle
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tangzu wa'ner s.g

exotic yacht
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bruh

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eh, how bad can they be

elder thistle
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provably any arbitrary kz product is going to sound like an estat vs k361 or something unless I do 12db of surgical eq

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terrible

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its actually not worth lisyening to sound if it has to come through them

haughty girder
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I tend to ignore him

exotic yacht
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tbf I could buy both

elder thistle
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I probably get less treble on these than most people

elder thistle
haughty girder
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You somehow justify a DT990 citing its instrument separation meanwhile it being one of the most sibilant headphones I've ever listened to

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it's not even especially resolving

elder thistle
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in the context of modern hd560s, yes its slightly more resolving

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and it is sibilant

haughty girder
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you then go on and say ZS10 Pros are resolving or smth

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go on with something something microdetail

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you're listening to treble peaks from shit tuning and calling it detail

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the thing has a bass shelf that doesn't just bleed into the mids it just swallows it

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and you're out here justifying tonal performance of a ZS10 Pro

elder thistle
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I dont judge most techs based on tone. I verify that eq doesnt create changes

zinc rain
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Wait are my HD560S’s suddenly bad now lmao

haughty girder
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because EQ can't fix treble the same way it can with mids and bass

elder thistle
zinc rain
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Stock earpads, let me check when I bought em

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March 2023

tawdry gale
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ic

elder thistle
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I dont actually dislike the various properties of the wa'ner

tawdry gale
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but its 8 dollars

elder thistle
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they just cant be observed by me without serious eq

tawdry gale
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my fav budget iem is the hola

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sadly its discontinued

elder thistle
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consequences (of eq) will never be the same

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the zero 2's are pretty cool

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they're darker than most with the light blue eartips, but the mids are spot on

elder thistle
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pretty resolving, some imaging too

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no not yet

tawdry gale
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ah a pity

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sadly its discontinued

steel escarp
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@lean grove I got a Mojo 2 lol

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its more detailed than my zen dac signature v2

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also fixes the dry sound the sus had

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but its a touch too warm/distorted

lean grove
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👽

steel escarp
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not the best blackground

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Qutest was probably a better option

tawdry gale
steel escarp
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not with my already warm amp

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there is something fatiguing to the sound

zenith pawn
dull trout
exotic yacht
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too expensive

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bought kz edx pro for the fun of it, $3

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and the tangzu wan er

zenith pawn
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$3???

exotic yacht
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yeah

verbal fog
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i bought a goodwill amp today and it ended up having 110w and uh it feels noticeably more powerful than my 20w technics im happy

hidden pendant
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I am NOT taking the front panel off again

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I am not looking forward to replacing 200 caps

uneven drum
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What do we think of dpl2

fringe meteor
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what kind of microphone jack is this?

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i can plug it to pc and receive sound, but since it's mono i can't plug all the way in (otherwise it'd short circuit and essentially unable to receive signal until i pull out partially)

civic beacon
fringe meteor
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here ya go

civic beacon
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Ah, righto. Likely meant to go with a semi-proprietary AV solution. Motorola used to use the same connector for their radios / walkie-talkies.

fringe meteor
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so it's either walkie talkie mic or recorder mic, right?

civic beacon
fringe meteor
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so if there's no adapter option, with a bit of soldering skill i can make a functional adapter with working switch, right?

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cuz i do know that the 2.5mm jack is meant to be used to operate the switch rather than transmit audio

civic beacon
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Sure, I mean, each pin is likely just Ground and Signal.

warm scarab
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why would they combine 2.5 and 3.5 😭

elder thistle
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fiio ft1 milling test ft. mel gibson

warm scarab
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uh

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what do you hope to achieve

buoyant vale
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You would need a very big pepper mill to fit them in, might I suggest a blender instead? They tend to come in more headphone friendly sizes.

warm scarab
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which agency pays you

elder thistle
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dont ask questions

lost wigeon
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Anyone know some good headphone reviewers? I’m trying to find information on the audio technica r50x’s but can’t find much

proud shell
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Yo, so i currently have 6~ year old beteron HD1000s and i think its finally time for a upgrade, i dont want to overspend but i also dont want bad quality, honestly the hd1000 sound pretty good so anything will probably be better, ive been looking at sennheiser, especially the HD 400s but ive noticed afew bad reviews about quality but since they are on sale for 50€ from there normal 70 i think they will be perfect, but if anyone knows anything about the hd400s and stuff or good simmilary priced sennheiser preferably then feel free to tell me

steel escarp
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what the heck are senhizers

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and beteron

buoyant vale
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yeah if it says senhizer on it I wouldn't buy it tbh

proud shell
zenith pawn
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using the truthear reds without a cable as earplugs while vacuuming

karmic latch
minor patio
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What low profile mic arm would y'all recommend that's not overly expensive

stuck bolt
elder thistle
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but I do have an r50x and lots of headphones to compare it to. anything you wanted to know?

steady raven
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I need some help

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What do I need to connect a XLR mic to my pc?

elder thistle
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wich mic

slate patrol
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how can i equalize my iems on my laptop and are there some website or place i can find pre existing templates

tawdry gale
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also we would recommend eqing by ear, or just matching parts of ur iem graph to a certain target u like on squiglink

dull trout
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a cheap one would do

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Swee Lee Malaysia

Ultra-affordable, surprisingly powerful, and small enough to fit in your pocket, AudioBox GO™ gives you all the connections you need to record on the move or in your home studio. Whether you’re recording a guitar riff at rehearsal or a full-length solo album in your bedroom, you’ll have all the tools you need to create

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not to say this is a recommendation, only an example*

stuck bolt
lost wigeon
haughty girder
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thank goodness you clarified example not recc

stuck bolt
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I got a beringer umc404hd for some years now, it's not that expensive and it's performces good

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4 ins and 4 outs is more than what the average Joe needs but it works well for what I'm doing

fleet hollow
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Hey does someone have some recommendations for not so expensive balanced audio cables that fit the FIIO JT1 bc my cabel is too short for my preference and and I'm generally too confused xD

warm scarab
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its easy to do, saves money, saves time and lifelong skill

dull trout
fleet hollow
# warm scarab solder one yourself

i see ur point but i would need to invest time and energy into it and research etc. and idk even know where to begin. So easier to just buy but i also dont want to spend a lot on it yk

warm scarab
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you google: 4.4mm jack/connector, headphone wire, 4.4mm balanced soldering diagram, solder, soldering iron, soldering paste

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and watch a 10 minute yt tutorial

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get a wire sleeve if you want it to look pretty, that's pretty much it

stuck bolt
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I've extended the life of mu headphones that way

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Had it since 2016, now has a ¼inch jack and wire to match.

magic tiger
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I need help. Im looking at getting an eGPU for my laptop. Do i need thunderbolt for that?

fleet hollow
magic tiger
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oh wait sorry im new didnt realize i was in audio tech lmao

warm scarab
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or like use one of the yt tutorials to clean the tip of the iron

fleet hollow
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Okay 👍🏽

magic tiger
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I am lookign to get a new set of audiophile headphones (wired) for some mastering im doing. What do yall recommend?

elder thistle
elder thistle
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good vertical and rearwards imaging too, for my ears at least

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I dont hear these as bright at all, just slightly mid forwards. but that could vary between people

magic tiger
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150

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USD

magic tiger
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closed. My sister hates when she can hear my music

stuck bolt
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I have the audio technica ws770is for years now, but the ws1100i is really good as well

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Sennheiser HD280pro are also a good choice

stuck bolt
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It's all within 150 USD

lean grove
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M50x is just straight up bad though

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Wouldn't be worth $50 USD

lost wigeon
elder thistle
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like not even comparable

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I would be inclined to eq the treble upwards slightly if I were to make settings for gaming

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they measure with way less mids than I hear on my rig though

tawdry gale
elder thistle
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what roles in mastering would you like it to fill?

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the ft1 (60mm dynamic driver yes everyone stfu) may be an okay reference for planars, which few people are using

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but its not a normal headphone nor a resolving one

sleek lily
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Started looking into impulse category on rew and now I feel like I've been using rew wrong this whole time

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It's such a useful tool

red quest
stone quartz
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Does anyone know what this oily looking liquid coming out of my tweeter could be?

lean grove
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but otherwise idk

civic beacon
stone quartz
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Ah, okay

glacial hare
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I'm looking for decent open ear buds, the 2 choices I have are the honor choice open ear buds or the sound core c30i
Which should I get? And will the honor one interfer with my glasses

tough umbra
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I have tv speakers, mediocre old ones. I have 2 laptop speakers also probably mediocre. Can i cut wires before the pins on laptop speakers and connect these wires to the wire of the tv speakers? Note they are both 4 pins and same color wires, so that just made sense to me

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Im doing a diy all in one laptop thats why im asking

stuck bolt
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You can, would it sound good, probably not, would it damage the laptop speakers, probably.

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Give it a shot

tough umbra
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Why would they get damaged

stuck bolt
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The wattage and Ohm difference

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You can check to see if it matches or if it's close,

tough umbra
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Hmmm tv speakers are 10w each

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Laptop's dont say, but they old ones from a lenovo laptop,

stuck bolt
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Give it a try and see how it goes

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I'm currently in the process of designing a 3 way active studio monitor

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Well 4 way if you include the weird things I'm gonna do with the subs

tough umbra
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3 way bro

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Like right left and middle?

stuck bolt
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No, like a 3 way speaker in the front and 2 8" Subs in the rear

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5 drivers total

tough umbra
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Audio gear is very confusing to me, i should gain more knowledge

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Whats the difference between a speaker and subwoofer

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I have a presonus studio speakers so its pretty straight forward

stuck bolt
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They're all speakers, it all comes down to what frequency range they work at best, subwoofers handle sub frequencies known as bass

tough umbra
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They actually make tiny little buzzings, they were worse. Its most likely an audio jack port or wire input

stuck bolt
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Buzzing can be a faulty cable connection, well that's the most common problem

tough umbra
stuck bolt
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Indeed

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Although it's recommended to have each driver in its own enclosed, not good to have the subwoofer and mid range woofer in the same enclosure.

tough umbra
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And the smaller superior one's are what exactly?

tough umbra
stuck bolt
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So from the top, the small ones are most likely tweeter, they cover the high frequencies known as treble

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Most speakers you'll see are 2 way, meaning they have 2 drivers, a tweeter and a woofer

tough umbra
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Oh yes that makes sense

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So what will your third one add? Or be called

stuck bolt
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So, in my design, and also in pro audio speakers like PDP Mum, barefoot audio, and other 3 way speakers, there would be a tweeter, a mid range woofer, and a bass mid woofer

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I took that concept and slapped 2 8" subwoofers at the back

tough umbra
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Lol, that adds up to how many speakers now...?

stuck bolt
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It's a lot

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Unnecessary tbh

tough umbra
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You'll have to make the same thing to both channels

stuck bolt
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Yup

tough umbra
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4 + 4?

stuck bolt
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5 +5

tough umbra
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Wow

stuck bolt
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2 subs,
1 bass mid
1 mid
1 tweeter

tough umbra
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2 subs yes

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Do you buy these specifically or do you partake in fine tuning or something

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Should be illegal sir

stuck bolt
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Lol

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It's not

tough umbra
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I guess not for you

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Here life is illegal

stuck bolt
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The first one is always for me

stuck bolt
tough umbra
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Gaza

stuck bolt
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Oh.

tough umbra
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Anyways useful info

stuck bolt
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Indeed

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I used to live in Egypt

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Spent 3 years there

tough umbra
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Doing what

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Where you from

stuck bolt
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Teaching amd studies

stuck bolt
tough umbra
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Oh nice, love to visit lol

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I should have been in egypt now but oh well

stuck bolt
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Take care out there

tough umbra
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70 killed on first day of eid

tough umbra
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While we're at it, i have this board im trying to power but don't have a 4 mm dc barrel, how do i power with wires

stuck bolt
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Hmmm

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I don't want to recommend anything sketch so

tough umbra
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Sketchy is fine, i just want someplace reachable

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I know polarity of the middle pin and what not of a port, but its impossible to maneuver

stuck bolt
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Would not recommend 😕

tough umbra
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Need someplace out in the open on the board

stuck bolt
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I've blown some things that way

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Anyways I gotta run

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I'll be around

tough umbra
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Mistakes happen

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Okay see ya

hallow yacht
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what mic should i get for recoring youtube videos ?

stuck bolt
hallow yacht
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60 bucks max

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im in usa btw

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it had to be usb to comet to pc

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connect*

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u there

hallow yacht
stuck bolt
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One sec

hallow yacht
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take your time

stuck bolt
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Razer Seiren X Podcast Microphone

hallow yacht
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is 91 dollars on amazon

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i want 60 bucks max

hallow yacht
stuck bolt
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Hmm, I think hyperx makes mics as well

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They're decent

hallow yacht
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can i have link perhaps

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nvm i found good mic for ffine

stuck bolt
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Awesome

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It it was XLR and you had an interface, it'll be easier to recommend something

hallow yacht
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its 50 bucks and comes with boom arm and mc

hidden pendant
stuck bolt
warm scarab
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adding extra speakers arbitrarily generally harms the audio quality

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it will work and yes you can wire them in serial or parallel but you wont accomplush much aside from phasing issues

warm scarab
hallow yacht
#

THATS the one i chose

warm scarab
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lol

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its pretty decent

sleek lily
#

All those non clipped leads make me nervous

sleek lily
sleek lily
stuck bolt
#

Yeah

hidden pendant
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Shit still cooked 💔

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Should be even smh

polar isle
#

headphones with good mic under $60?

uneven minnow
#

Ive recently gotten my hands on a few vinyl records. What are a few good starter record players?

sleek lily
# hidden pendant

My guess is either an intermittent connection or jitter if its processing digital data rn

hidden pendant
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This relay is kinda suspicious

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Sometimes gets really bad

warm silo
modern solstice
stone quartz
#

Which of the following is best for listening on the go?

Sony WH-1000XM5
Sennheiser MOMENTUM 4
Bose QuietComfort Ultra
Bowers & Wilkins Px8
Focal Bathys
Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H95

stuck bolt
#

🤷🏽‍♂️

hearty vine
#
#

I currently have the hifiman sundara, I had tried it with a dac and didn't notice a difference from my motu m2 even a cheap Behringer interface

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I stuck with my Motu m2 but now since I am upgrading I thiunk I might need some new audio gear for these headphones.

steel escarp
#

@lean grove I made a 4 pin xlr phase inverter for Susvara

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lol

warm scarab
#

but arya organics are afaik better

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you should also get an amplifier

polar isle
#

headphones with good mic under $60?

unique wind
#

i need to stop poorcoping and just buy some nice speakers for my desk setup

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i use the built in speakers of my lg c4 42 inch 95% of the time that im at my desk

lean grove
unique wind
#

how are they getting +-2dB from 50-20,000Hz in a pair of tiny $300 monitors

lean grove
#

Compression data shows that they are pretty limited in terms of volume

unique wind
#

they have some larger monitors that are still pretty affordable

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like an 8" for $300/ea

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i wonder how these measure

elder thistle
#

measurements are not what make adams powerful monitors

unique wind
#

back into your schizo cave jackson

elder thistle
#

ask adam owners who use them as monitors

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no you're unqualified go away

lean grove
#

Michael is definitely the most unqualified person to make his own purchasing decisions

unique wind
#

seems like their T#V line isnt as impressive

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thats disappointing because theyre pretty well priced

elder thistle
#

nevermind

hearty vine
warm scarab
#

if you are on budget go for the edition xs instead and get an amplifier alongside it

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unless you can't afford one alongside aryas

hearty vine
warm scarab
#

ok

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I mean edition xs is already a hube leap over sundaras

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most things are

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but if you can afford aryas and an amplifier id definitely recommend that over the xs

hearty vine
#

I can spend $600 on headphones but $1000 on headphones like the arya organic just seems excessive. I mainly listen to metal and rock lmao

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I'm probably going to only get an amp, I had used a zen dac for my sundara and didn't notice a difference from the motu m2.

hearty vine
sleek lily
#

Imo audio is a hobby that shifted to marketing and away from engineering after the 70-80s maybe 90s

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Kinda like how motherboards are now

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Tbh, almost like GPUs now lol

zenith pawn
#

buy chi-fi iems :gigachad:

warm silo
elder thistle
#

at least not with my preferences anyways

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it's not resolving, timbre's really weird, and snares/transients will have very little impact

tawdry gale
vagrant zinc
dull trout
zinc rain
#

Razer audio products EQ’s look like this

warm scarab
tawdry gale
#

Crinacle describing the tuning of fried chicken

tawdry gale
minor patio
#

Looking to upgrade my audio setup for streaming and discord/gaming with the buddies what budget interface/mixer would y'all recommend not trying to spend a fortune

minor patio
#

What about id I'm looking for more of a mixer

minor patio
#

Don't want something crazy expensive liked the idea of the goxlr but that's dead/dying i think unless they survived that also it's like $500

mint sparrow
#

Total noob with speakers so can someone explain what these speakers are, whether they're active or passive and if they'll somehow work with my UMC202HD audio interface? I keep seeing speakers with what looks like stripped wires and I don't get it can someone help me out please

minor patio
#

Thanks for the suggestion think ATM I'm looking for more a mixer for streaming/discord with buddies

lean grove
#

um2

stuck bolt
#

You'll need an amp to go between the interface and the speakers

glacial hare
mint sparrow
#

and dont do good sound

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this looks like an amp, but like where do these stripped wire things go? there are 2 per speaker

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and this is my audio interface at the back o_o

stuck bolt
#

Fosi has some decent cheap amps

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This one's on sale

mint sparrow
#

wait i'm sorry, i'm really confused now. the amps that i'm seeing from fosi have pretty much the exact same IO as what i've got, why do i need an amp if I have this kind of stuff on my audio interface? and i still dont understand what to do with the stripped wires, is there something i get an adapter with??

buoyant vale
#

The wires go into the binding posts on speaker amps

mint sparrow
#

..binding posts??

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why are they not attatched????

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so if i get these speakers, i'd have to buy an amp AND binding posts?

#

so should i just look for active speakers instead? that sounds like i wouldn't need those things to sort my issue

buoyant vale
#

No the binding posts are part of the amplifier

stuck bolt
#

Wait, pause, what are you looking for exactly

mint sparrow
#

i'm looking for speakers that will plug into my audio interface

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i dont need perfect audiophile audio

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but i'm currently using a 3.5mm headphone jack + usb for gamer speakers and they are shite

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it even has a seperate volume wheel which is really annoying and just in the way

buoyant vale
#

Yeah just get actives then

mint sparrow
#

actives will plug into my wall and i'll have what, 1/4 inch jacks to go directly into the audio interface to make it simple?

#

or am i missing something that i've not been informed of

buoyant vale
#

Inputs will vary speaker to speaker but pretty much yes

mint sparrow
#

something on amazon i've just found for the price of the fosi amp btw.. why are there so many ports??? whats the bottom ones and why are there 4 input output things

#

why are speakers so complicated

stuck bolt
#

What do you have with you now

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They're not

mint sparrow
#

my speakers at the moment?

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or my audio interface

stuck bolt
#

Active speakers, you don't need an amp

#

What do you have as in everything

mint sparrow
#

my parents bought them for me don't ask

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i've got DT 990 pro 250ohms for headphones but i want speakers along with it

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plus i'm running low on usb ports

stuck bolt
#

For your interface, it'll be best to get an active speaker

mint sparrow
#

why are you oh godding me T_T what's wrong

stuck bolt
#

Less hassle tbh

mint sparrow
#

okay so active is what i'm after, good to know good to know. but is there like a REALLY cheap and not super stupid brand? these speakers are so bad that its either OFF or too loud there is no quiet

mint sparrow
#

preferably less than £50

stuck bolt
#

Hmmmm

mint sparrow
#

i love getting 2nd hand tech from them

stuck bolt
mint sparrow
#

mama mia i can't'a win

#

am i able to use like a really dodgy fire hazard for an amp?

stuck bolt
#

You'll need to up your budget a tad bit

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Sure

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I've made my own amps

stuck bolt
#

Can you show me

mint sparrow
#

show you what

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my speakers?

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or the one i found for £15

mint sparrow
#

cause the one i found for £15 is Sony SS-CEH15 if thats anything worth it. eBay says £17

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ah yeah thats ^

stuck bolt
#

Model number is good, brb

mint sparrow
#

okie dokes

stuck bolt
#

So to confirm, you have the beringer UMC202

mint sparrow
#

hd version 😎

#

but yeah

#

google says it's a 4ohm speaker which makes me think wow this can run on a battery why would it need an amp, right??

stuck bolt
#

Nit good for my the interface

#

I have the 404hd

mint sparrow
#

huh

#

so you have more inputs? i mean that's pretty cool don't get me wrong but i'd only need 2 mics me thinks

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i would just love to use my speaker ports of the audio interface and free up a 3.5mm jack and usb

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give me more USB DAMNIT

stuck bolt
#

4 ins and 4 outs

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But I also have passive speakers

mint sparrow
#

so what does my a AI and speakers i've found tell you

#

is there any stupidly cheap workaround for an amp?

lean grove
#

🤨

stuck bolt
#

What

#

An actual amp, they're not that expensive

mint sparrow
#

well the one you recommended was like 50 alone

stuck bolt
mint sparrow
#

and would this be able to plug into my AI?

stuck bolt
#

Don't hold me to the quality of this would

stuck bolt
mint sparrow
#

@_@ i hate this situation, i just wanted an xlr mic and now i'm here

stuck bolt
#

Rca to 3.5mm

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You're in a tight spot due to your tight budget

mint sparrow
#

i get that 100% i would just like to have nice NON usb speakers and be able to control their volume using what i've already got on the AI making it all seamless with 1 thing

stuck bolt
#

Then go for active speakers, but that's a tad bit more expensive

mint sparrow
#

i think i'll have to go with that :,D but thanks for the help

mint sparrow
#

crypto to the moon lookin ass gif

stuck bolt
mint sparrow
hearty vine
sinful shell
#

What are good speakers for a theater room budget 1000 to 2000 for a tv the best for the prise I don't know the difference between all the numbers

elder thistle
#

it's a consequence of stereotypical planar behavior. when you have all the sounds pushed to a similar volume playing field (including the volume changes for a single instrument), there is no contrast

hearty vine
#

The Arya stealth would be for movies, low bpm music, and gaming.

stone quartz
#

Shame about the port noise

elder thistle
#

just don't main apex or something

hearty vine
#

only one I still play at times is marvel rivals but I don't game at a high rank only at Grandmaster 1 It's as casual a shooter can get

#

I'll still have my sundaras if the arya is awful in gaming

elder thistle
#

I think the nature of that game makes direction of sounds a lot less important lol

hearty vine
#

if they're not good I will just go back to sennheiser and get the hd490

elder thistle
#

I do like the XS for story games or open world and such

#

they really throw reverbs and make all sorts of sounds swirl around me

#

same for movies

#

also it's not that these planars can't image, they can provide the most vivid placement in binaural audio experiences I've heard

#

it's just finnicky and can be reversed or portray a different angle depending on the exact sound

viscid tangle
#

The arya would excel in classical music

viscid tangle
elder thistle
#

but aren't those supposed to be less resolving than an hd600?

#

I cannot stand my hd560s in some rock music and definitely not metal. the garbled mess, smeariness, and severe loss of clarity is irritating and I'd rather not listen to music if it sounds that way

#

on the other hand,

elder thistle
#

the neumann ndh20, which at the very least we know the ndh30 is based on the hd560s diaphragms, is an impenetrable fortress for resolving through any amount of sounds you throw at it

warm scarab
#

@hearty vine get aryas you are doing the correct thing

elder thistle
#

I've sat there listening to very busy classical and traced out 18 different instrument's melodies

warm scarab
#

get a zen can to drive them as well

#

you have a month to decide if you want to return them or not

#

its that easy

elder thistle
warm scarab
#

more you scale your gear worse it sounds

elder thistle
#

but a lot of this compression stuff imo is more related to a planar trying to make out the details of everything pushed to a similar volume

warm scarab
#

jackson is wrong

elder thistle
#

that creates a mix listening disadvantage that isn't part of the actual mix

warm scarab
#

bro still believes in muh planar dynamics in 2025

#

zero actual tests backing this up

#

link it to whatever you want but planar dynamic range has been a cope day 1

elder thistle
#

there are zero tests proving that edition xs has the dynamics of an hd600 either

#

this has always been a stalemate situation in audio

#

the only route available is human testing, which we get in a disorganized form known as firsthand experience from audiophiles

#

there's also firsthand experience from music producers, which are much more like audiophiles than they usually imagine

warm scarab
#

binge actually tested them in ief

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said there was a max deviation of 2db between the headphones he tested

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and 0.2 on average

#

planars, estats, dynamics were among his samples

#

its pure cope

#

link it to something not entirely speculative if you want to say planars dont do metal well

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something you can actually back up and is an actual metric of performance measurement

#

you got filtered

#

I win

#

bot is with me

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I leave

#

you are wrong btw

#

@lean grove will continue to argue with you in my stead

elder thistle
#

well I'll say this: it's perceptually strange and not quite like compression or eq when it happens

#

but the hd600 hits harder for me at 80hz than the edition xs does in jack wall - s***ide mission, particularly with the cinematic drums

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and the xs brings the other quieter sounds way closer together

#

so I would estimate that 80hz on the cinematic drums feels 7db extra on the hd600, or about 5 higher relative to the xs

stuck bolt
#

I know what you need

elder thistle
#

but that's a very dangerous thing to slap numbers on

stuck bolt
#

80 hz and below easily achievable

lean grove
#

meme archeology

#

its gotta be at least 10 years old

viscid tangle
# warm scarab cap

I've owned sundaras and arya non stealth they still sound amazing for metal but my hd600s were better. In everything else the aryas were way better

#

Depends on the subgenre of metal

torpid holly
#

hey guys im new here, i have a question, i want good wireless earphones and i want them cheap since im from egypt and still in egypt i have a budget of 1030 egp, can someone help me? if you can DM me

stuck bolt
#

A little tougher now that the conversation rate is all wack, I remember when it was 15 egp to 1 usd

stuck bolt
#

Anker Soundcore ear buds are a good pick as well

red quest
warm scarab
#

holy shit

#

@lean grove

#

i cant find jvc guy

#

he may have meft

#

this is fucking tragic

lean grove
warm scarab
#

@quiet ice

#

crisis averted

quiet ice
#

Holy shit I forgot I was still even in this server lmfao

stuck bolt
#

Are you a carpenter Carson Carpenter

#

@quiet ice

quiet ice
stuck bolt
#

Wow

north imp
#

aany suggestions on what amp to pair my DT990Pros with for R6S

stuck bolt
stuck bolt
#

Or any of the topping dac amps, they're awesome

stuck bolt
tawdry gale
#

A topping would increase ur chances of dt770 giving u tinnitus

stuck bolt
#

Then go SMSL

#

I'll recommend what I know, and that's topping and SMSL.

tawdry gale
stuck bolt
#

What would you recommend

#

SMSL and topping have some decent and affordable headphone amps

warm scarab
#

another pair of headphones

stuck bolt
#

Hence the recommendation

warm scarab
#

someone who owns a dt990 doesn't need an amplifier

tawdry gale
#

apple dongle, it doesnt scale

warm scarab
#

maybe a tube amplifier if you really tried to stretch it

#

only amplifier id see use being paired with a dt990

#

even then it would be stupid to pay for a 500$ amp to listen to your 120$ headphones

stuck bolt
#

Drop names

warm scarab
#

bottlehead crack

stuck bolt
#

Well, the DL200 from SMSL is under 200 USD

warm scarab
#

yeah and it sounds the same as a 9$ dongle on the dt990

#

tube amps actually change the sound radically

tawdry gale
#

With dt770

#

Compared to apple dong

stuck bolt
#

Well, as a musician, I wouldn't want my amp to change the sound, unless it's intentional

#

So a transparent amp is best

tawdry gale
warm scarab
#

you can get that for 100$

stuck bolt
#

FII0 has some affordable stuff as well

warm scarab
#

but there is no data that says neutral sound is natural sound

#

you live in a distorted echo chamber 24/7 of your life

#

you shouldn't buy an amplifier based on how many zeroes it has on the thd meter but rather if you enjoy the sound or not

stuck bolt
#

Well, I do music production

warm scarab
#

as a music producer your literal last concern it the audio chain

tawdry gale
#

From my experience, dt770 is good for people with hearing loss or above the age of 50

warm scarab
#

I am studying sound engineering and most sound engineers of the industry dont even check the chips of the shit they buy

#

they buy for features and drivers

#

does the interface have 10 xlr inputs or 15

#

do they sound notably shit or not

#

they spend their time being concerned with unnatural sound when it comes to their acoustics, speakers and headphones

stuck bolt
#

I'm not overly concerned with what's what, but I still want a somewhat accurate representation of what I'm making

warm scarab
#

it is a somewhat accurate representation of what you are making

stuck bolt
#

Since I do everything from production to mixing and mastering

warm scarab
#

yes thats also what sound engineers typically do

#

an amplifier can change sound but provided it isn't a tube amplifier or something with 500 wacky filters

stuck bolt
#

I'm aware

warm scarab
#

you could get 50 dudes in a room with untrained ears

#

and they wouldn't be able to tell 1 amplifier from another

#

it does change sound but it isn't as drastic as you make it out to be

#

and again there is zero proof that your transparent sound is what sounds natural to you or your listeners nor is there proof they will have the same chip

#

you shouldn't be concerned about such marginal differnces in chain while a headphone, speaker or the room treatment can change the outcome hundreds of times more

stuck bolt
#

True

#

A room has a lot of say on how your speakers sound

#

But that's just a percentage of the chain

warm scarab
#

room is more important than your speakers tbh

#

cant have good sound with good speakers in a bad room

#

but you can have vice versa

stuck bolt
#

Agreed

#

I've been in some studios with shit speakers, but a well treated room, but there's also a line, as how bad a speaker can be in a well treated room

warm scarab
#

yeah of course

stuck bolt
#

I'm in the R&D phase of developing some speakers

warm scarab
#

godspeed

lean grove
stuck bolt
#

Also, Present Day Production has made their Pro Studio monitors. Some pretty cool sht tbh

lean grove
#

who

stuck bolt
#

They're pretty new in the speaker market

#

PDP MUMs

lean grove
#

🚨LOW QUALITY SPEAKER ALERT🚨
damn they use purifi drivers

warm scarab
#

idk what purifi is

#

can you eat it

lean grove
#

the paper ones yeah

#

but the new ones use aluminum so they might be a bit chewy

#

as a turkish man in his late thirties you're no stranger to eating sheet metal so you should be fine

stuck bolt
#

They're definitely not low quality my dude

warm scarab
#

i just lick the boulders in the coast to build up minerals

lean grove
#

only low quality speakers use the most advanced woofers on the market

warm scarab
#

no need for food

lean grove
#

its like cheating

stuck bolt
#

Buchardt use them as well

lean grove
#

all the work has been done for you.

warm scarab
#

arent the most advanced ones coaxial ones

#

i like coaxials

stuck bolt
#

They have their problems as well

lean grove
#

a real master will use paper tweeters, low quality car subwoofers, and a tweeter stolen from a mcdonalds toy

warm scarab
#

reminds me i should make a shit ass subwoofer with a car subwoofer

lean grove
warm scarab
#

or mount one to the ass bit of my chair for sim racing

#

may be fun

stuck bolt
warm scarab
lean grove
#

its because they have a really precise surround material so the force the speaker feels as it extends through its stroke remains as constant as possible

stuck bolt
#

It's to reduce distortion

warm scarab
#

what does this establish

stuck bolt
#

So basically they pre distort the speaker to reduce it

lean grove
#

better dynamics. no compression. lower distortion. able to hit stupid amounts of bass without impacting the midrange

stuck bolt
#

Yup

lean grove
stuck bolt
#

I can't afford them though, so I'm going basic Daytok Audio drivers for my first set of "studio monitors "

warm scarab
#

very smoothened graph

lean grove
stuck bolt
#

Dayton audio

warm scarab
lean grove
#

love the chuffing showing up immedietly

#

klaus buy these

warm scarab
warm scarab
warm scarab
lean grove
#

poor 🫵

warm scarab
#

there is a fucking revolution in my country nils

lean grove
#

yeah yeah dont brag about it 🙄

stuck bolt
#

The SB acoustic tweeter is my dream tweeter tbh

#

Love how it looks and perform

#

As a woodworker as well, they look pretty

lean grove
#

which one

stuck bolt
#

Simple and pretty

lean grove
#

These are the goal

#

Up until someone makes a decent affordable cardiod speaker.

stuck bolt
#

Of those are passives though

#

Looks good

#

I'm still in the design phase of my 3 ways speakers. Well 4 way with the built in subs

#

It's kinda stupid but worth the challenge

stuck bolt
#

I'm slowly ordering parts

#

I've got everything pretty much laid out

stone quartz
#

Does anyone know of a subwoofer that can play very low at a good volume?

#

Hoping for 20Hz at no more than +/- 3dB

stuck bolt
#

Uhhhh

#

Try a 15" sub

stone quartz
#

SVS PB16 looks nice

#

Damn expensive, though.

stuck bolt
#

OSD 15

stone quartz
#

That looks good

stuck bolt
#

Yeah, I forgot OSD has some pretty badass subs for a good price

#

They went up a bit from what I remembered

#

I wanna try this

#

Wow

stone quartz
#

I did find a local company that makes a 12" they claim makes 20Hz as well

#

It looks decent

stuck bolt
#

What's your budget

#

That's most important

stone quartz
#

My budget is £1,000 ~$1300

stuck bolt
#

How big is your room, and what other speakers do you have

stone quartz
#

My front & surround speakers are Martin Audio Effect 5. Room is about 32 feet by 20 feet.

stuck bolt
#

I'll probably still stick to my suggestion if the OSD 15 or even the OSD Triple 15

stone quartz
#

Looking to get a 7.1.4 setup eventually

#

Not treated yet

#

Hoping to eventually

stuck bolt
#

Ight, go for the less expensive sub and put the rest into treatment

stone quartz
#

Okay

stuck bolt
#

First and second reflection point and probably some clouds would do you good

stone quartz
#

I found some pretty cheap acoustic panels that I could reupholster to be black

#

They look decent inside

#

My receiver has room correction as well, but I'm not sure how good it is

stuck bolt
#

If possible, try get them a few inches or a handful of centimeters off the wall

stone quartz
#

Okay

#

Are bass traps worth getting?

stuck bolt
#

Alternatively, if possible to put on gobos, like free standing panel, so they can be easily moved around

stuck bolt
stone quartz
#

Since my long-term goal is a cinema room, I could potentially cover the walls and ceilings in dense foam and fabric.

stuck bolt
#

I'd say focus more on treating your space first. Put more of the budget in that

stone quartz
#

I'll do some research into the best practices

#

I have a habit of rushing into things and getting a bad outcome as a result, lol.

stuck bolt
#

GIK acoustics has some good articles on treatment

stone quartz
#

Their panels are pretty reasonably priced

stuck bolt
#

Measure out your room and get a layout of where you wanna place your panels

stone quartz
#

How much wall coverage am I aiming for?

#

In pictures it looks like about 50%

stuck bolt
#

GIKs website has a room builder thing

#

Try that out, you can model your room and try layouts

#

But a cloud does wonders for your listening position

stone quartz
#

These?

#

I think because my speakers project quite a lot, room treatment will help a great deal

#

Not really intended for nearfield use, but I'm doing it anyway

stuck bolt
#

Good luck, I'll be happy for updates

elder thistle
elder thistle
#

990 is not my favorite for r6s, but it's still pretty functional

stone quartz
#

I find that most earbud tips don't fit me. Are these likely to help?

warm scarab
#

but they also change sound a bit