audio-tech

[warm scarab]

why not just 1 good iem

or two

[zenith pawn]

I have 2 but I want 3 so I can have one to travel, and one at both houses

[haughty girder]

I like to try different things

Like my Kiwi Cadenzas look really nice and are cheap enough I'd be okay if I lost them outside

so I bring them around

but like aful explorer would be staying home

but they have a completely different sound signature

I would never buy two iems with the same tuning I'll say that much.

[zenith pawn]

That's fair

[haughty girder]

like my last three

they sound completely different I'll just tell you that much

also I broke my zero reds

which triggered the purchase of the explorer

lmao

[warm scarab]

tragic

[haughty girder]

fr

but it is what it is

I enjoy new things too

plus my friends and family benefit

so it's a win win

I gave away a pair of gates just to realize I lowkey liked the gate

bought another as a backup pair

[verbal fog]

grr i hate seating position uh my bass is strongest when im farthest away from my speakers

gr i wish seating position wasnt real

[zenith pawn]

wtf howd they break

[haughty girder]

got sat on, resin cracked

got lazy didn't try to fix

crack expanded

and rip

[zenith pawn]

Rip

[verbal fog]

hh i got the positioning better and i also got it a nice eq and i think these are my new favorite speakers

theyre uh new large advents and id compare them against my kef 103.2s but i do think theyre better

at least they have deeper bass but i might be mistaken i gotta rerun my kefs some day

[drowsy rampart]

guys are the xiaomi redmi buds 6 good?

[agile void]

What audio interface and mic should I get for my upgrade?

I have an SSL 2 and a podmic but I think it’s time for an upgrade :3

I’ve used focusrite before and it was ok

[haughty girder]

Why are you upgrading an SSL2

podmic maybe - I personally don't like that mic

very well built, looks nice, sounds really harsh

[agile void]

I’ll probably buy a Beta 58A and a Universal Audio Volt 276

[agile void]

The reason being that I don’t wanna carry my heavy ass podmic anytime I travel so I’m gonna keep the podmic where I am with my ssl2 and I’ll just get new stuff for home in the United States

I’m thinking the 58A since the frequency response is nice and bright for vocal ranges and the universal audio should add warmth that’s nice for talking and chatting

[haughty girder]

Any reason for 276?

two channel for just a mic is a bit odd

but not a bad thing - the compressor on those things sound really good

I'd say SE V7 is a better option than the Beta 58a

[agile void]

I think it looks sexy as fuck

Eh it’s fine one day I’ll connect an instrument to them but that time is not now xD

[agile void]

Why Se V7? I’ve recorded with the shure before and I loved it, even with people who scream into the mic it still does really good in filtering out noise and out of an unruly voice was able to make some amazing recordings

[haughty girder]

oh if you've tried the 58A and liked it then by all means go for it

SE V7 in my opinion is a bit safer in turns of frequency response

but that's only if it's a semi-blind buy

otherwise 58A is a perfectly capable microphone

[vast quarry]

i know this is more of a software topic, but eh, best place i think

i do own spotify premium. but spotify does not have every song. is there a program that can mix spotify playlists with other playlists like youtube music or soundcloud? since those allow user uploads.

i prefer to benefit from spotify's audio quality if possible. but if push comes to shove i just legaly buy the audio files (not pirate ofc).

[steel escarp]

apple music has like the most songs out of any streaming service

tho dealing with making an apple account if you don't have an iphone is 💀

[vast quarry]

i hope my irony with plausible deniability came through

or to clarify, i do not intend to either buy single songs, albums, or additional subscriptions

[lean grove]

Roon might be able to do something like that.

[warm scarab]

yt music library should be large enough to avoid needing multiple sources

[verbal fog]

i finally got speakers stands and they came with a pair of Infinitys but the stands are fire im happy :3

[zenith pawn]

ok i might actually like the 7hz zero:2 more than the truthear reds

the 7hz is too closed but the bass is better, if it had less punch it would be perfect i think

[zenith pawn]

maybe only for albums that have little bass

[sage canyon]

i raged yesterday and broke my headphones. anyone know good wireless headphones with ANC for gaming? budget = under 600$

[elder thistle]

seems similar to my experiences with them

the zero reds have more soundstage, which is unusual for iems in the first place

but the midrange is less realistic

the bass is authoritative and weighty while the zero 2 bass has more punch

[frosty ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481313400740249633/1349350989450182676/unnamed.jpg

[zenith pawn]

wdym by less realistic

[tawdry gale]

zero red has slightly recessed lowermids and midbass

so the mids can sound a bit thin

[zenith pawn]

ah interesting

I need to play around with an eq program to see what the different frequency bands affect

[winter furnace]

eclipse HG10 is this good

[elder thistle]

no not that

[elder thistle]

more detailed, more dynamic, more timbrally correct

[frosty ocean]

I just paid 10 dollars for 4 D batteries for a radio ill probably only use for 30 minutes, and i already have a wall adapter ordered from Amazon...

[frosty ocean]

#TimbreWolf

[elder thistle]

direwolf20

[zenith pawn]

i love minecraft

[winter furnace]

ive got a cloud alpha wireless but its so hard in games to listen to footseps, any way i can fix this?

like i hear footsteps from front but the enemy is behind me

[terse river]

Game problem most likely

[warm scarab]

which game

[winter furnace]

valorant

[warm scarab]

are you using surround

[civic beacon]

Does this happen in all games? (test more than one game to rule out a single game.)

Also... ensure you haven't put the headphones on backwards, as this would reverse audio that software attempts to make it sound like are coming from the left/right and front/back.

[haughty girder]

Cloud Alpha wireless has angled drivers

might not be tuned that well for it

that's acc why I would recc Cloud 2 and Alpha over the Alpha S bc the S have angled drivers

throws imaging off a little

[winter furnace]

i used dts but it doesnt really make it better

just better sounds without getting what i want

[winter furnace]

yeah i play mostly fps games

it also happens in cs

[dull trout]

turn of dts first and see if it improves anything

could be that dts surround is funky

[winter furnace]

yes i tried

its still not good

[wintry mirage]

i want to build a subwoofer that plays down to around 19hz, does anyone know how i calculate box and port size

[lean grove]

Yeah a program called WinISd

[wintry mirage]

Does the size of the subwoofer make much of an impact to how low it can play

[lean grove]

Yes.

[wintry mirage]

I was thinking about 12 inch but I might be able to fit slightly bigger

Just as low as possible really 19hz is a goal but I don't mind

[lean grove]

You can get 19hz with something smaller but it won't be as loud or it will need a ton of power.

[wintry mirage]

I will be buying a decent 12 inch subwoofer without a box

[lean grove]

Okay I suggest you consider what to buy after you know what to build

Because buying the driver is gonna lock you into a build that you might not like.

[wintry mirage]

I'm not sure if I want it in my car or room

[lean grove]

If you put it in your car I will hunt you down

[wintry mirage]

Why

[lean grove]

People with intentionally noisy cars are the worst people in the world

[wintry mirage]

Its not like I'm playing it full volume in a residential area

[lean grove]

Every car audio guy says the same thing and yet they still build subs powerful enough that anyone within half a mile is going to hear it

[wintry mirage]

Its not going to be that loud

Its just going to sound good

[lean grove]

Get a bass shaker

Can easily hit infrasonic frequencies at a fraction of the cost without annoying anyone

[wintry mirage]

Its not going to be more than 500 watts

I will need to find an amplifier too

[lean grove]

Crazy how you keep trying to justify this

500 watts is not small

[wintry mirage]

I don't want more than 500

[lean grove]

How about not more than 100 watts?

Or maybe 50 watts

[wintry mirage]

It won't work

I have 2 x 250 watt speakers in my bedroom and they are loud enough

[lean grove]

Because you'll need the full force of a 110db bass cannon to enjoy your music and annoy everyone around you.

There is no compromise

Me me me

[zenith pawn]

dude I hate sub so much

idk how people can possibly want that

even the stock sound system in my car is way too sub-bassy

[verbal fog]

i think it depends on what you buy

theres so much evil difference between home audio and car audio

car audio fellas will be like grr heres my setup im running 4000 watts and 12 subwoofers in my backseat and trunk but look it has bass

i have a bias

but still grr

i am gonna have to touch car audio one day once i have money to throw at my car

[verbal fog]

mine has knobs to control it and i can just throw everything i have at the factory subs but everything always comes out sharp and unclear no matter what so i think that ill partially overhaul stuff some say ill see

[zenith pawn]

mine just has a 3 band eq control

bass, mid, treble

it does not help

[flint raptor]

An armful of boys.

[verbal fog]

the bass works and the mids uh you wanna keep them all the way up since its the best chance its got at behind coherent

[verbal fog]

wb not boy headphones

[zenith pawn]

I meant on my car I mean

[verbal fog]

mmhm mine has that though its evil

mines also probably older though so i feel like something in it went a little bad

also what car is gonna be the victim of the theoretical 12 inch sub

[last ruin]

My DAC died. need advice on a new one. Got a Sennheiser HD600 and used to pair it with an iFi Audio ZEN DAC V2. Would like one that doesn't require external power if possible

[warm scarab]

not using external power kind of defeats the point no?

[fast coyote]

Is the Audient Evo 4 any good? Was thinking on getting it, the TMA-2 Wireless+, the Unit 4 Wireless+, and some dynamic mic.

[last ruin]

the zen dac 2 was able to use only USB power

[warm scarab]

yeah and it has a very weak amplifier

also suspectable to electrical interference

so ifi can sell you their 150$ usb power purifier

[last ruin]

alright, then let's drop the no external power requirement. any good recs for around 200?

[warm scarab]

a dac only?

[last ruin]

surprisingly my HD600 worked fine on the zen DAC on just the USB power

so something that can at least drive the HD600 without also needing a separate amp

[last ruin]

DAC/AMP combo or set

[warm scarab]

hd600 is very sensitive so most things can drive it

at that price honestly

zendac is pretty good

cant you rma it

[last ruin]

OOW, gonna cost a lot likely to fix

4 years old

[last ruin]

how about the zendac 3? upgrade whilst i'm at it?

[warm scarab]

ive no idea how zendac 3 is

[pallid linden]

are Soundcore earbuds good quality? I'm thinking about Sport X20 and also Skullcandy Push Active

for running and daily use

[tawdry gale]

all terrible

[pallid linden]

hmm are models from Jabra or Sony better?

[tawdry gale]

whats ur budget

[pallid linden]

about 100 euros/dollars

[tawdry gale]

https://razan06.blogspot.com/2024/10/tws-recommendation-list.html

[pallid linden]

thanks i'll read through

[last ruin]

i'll also throw in the Nothing Ear A in as well as a recommendation, both my parents have a pair and they love them, they both said they are the best quality they had so far (which is easy to beat, they only had trash spec 30 eur pairs before)

[tawdry gale]

nothing ear A is not very good, bit wonky tuning, nothing ear (2024) is quite good though

[molten lotus]

What's everyone's fav sound card?

[tawdry gale]

portable -> apple dongle

desktop -> schiit stack

[molten lotus]

I am currently running an AE-5 from 2018. Kinda wondering when a new chipset will come

[elder thistle]

this is the part that shows the author has no idea what he's doing

either that or he gave up trying to review these earbuds

there are lots of things about sound, a small one being sound signature, which is the easiest one to quantify

buying something based on the sound signature is still a 50/50 roll of the dice whether it sounds good or horrible to you

maybe 60/40 if it means you get to avoid something with zero bass

[zenith pawn]

what does TWS in that context mean

[elder thistle]

true wireless stereo (normal bluetooth earbuds)

[zenith pawn]

ooooooh

that's why i don't recognize anything

[elder thistle]

but yes, nobody should use this guide to make a purchasing decision

it's only useful for finding hyped products

if you further research such a product, you will have to dig through half a mile of bs like dufrane in shawshank redemption

to find any kind of truthful review not run by measurement fanatics or a clickbait youtuber

which is essentially every single one discussed online

[haughty girder]

taking words out of context is crazy

If you don't care about sound then get what looks good to you

that's not rocket science

the customer is always right in the matter of taste

[haughty girder]

Evo 4 is cheap for two XLR, but it's also built kinda meh and headphone amp is bad

Basically it's fine if you want that style over say, minifuse 2 or volt 276

just keep it away from any power cables

or cables in general to avoid interference

[elder thistle]

sound signature isn't "sound"

and not caring about sound signature doesn't mean you don't care about sound

that's precisely why what he wrote is idiotic at best

[haughty girder]

You can't separate sound signature from sound if you want to use sound as a criteria for ranking/recommendations

without a sound signature, sound is well... sound which means anything fulfills that criteria

as soon as you say "x sounds bad to me" or "I prefer x over y" then you've already established you have a preference in sound signature

[elder thistle]

nope

I don't really care about sound signature

eq and fr don't change most things about sound

[zenith pawn]

oh really, that would explain some stuff

[elder thistle]

the harman study was never meant to determine what was preferable about a sound source

it was meant to determine what tonality is safest on average

[elder thistle]

there are several logical reasons why certain aspects of sound (like clarity or resolution) could be caused by frequency response in theory

but generally it isn't why things sound the way they sound

a really good example is the non-audiophile space getting 3rd party replacement earpads for their headphones or headsets

it can be demonstrated that a certain change of earpads for a certain headphone causes serious changes in tone

but most of the reviews will still have people saying the headphones sound the same

they've become familiar with the core behavior of the headphones, which usually remains the same with an earpad swap

[hidden pendant]

Audiophiles got too much money bruh

It's just a preamp

[pallid linden]

ridiculous pricing 😄

you could build a whole home studio with that kind of money

[tawdry gale]

hes not a reviewer

[tawdry gale]

some people actually care more about aesthetics and also have no clue what they want

met a lot of people like that

and we tell them to eq to taste

[pliant crypt]

Hey guys, which wireless earbuds should i get for around 50$. I'm currently looking at the cmf buds pro 2 but i see that many people are complaining so idk. I never tried ANC so that would be a priority. Also i have kinda small ears (Chu 2s fit me perfectly if that helps). I also use an android.

[lean grove]

Moondrop has the space travels. they're like $20-$30

if you like the CHU's, the space travels would be a good fit

[elder thistle]

space travels are more comparable to the zero 2's probably

except bass

it has chu 2 bass

[elder thistle]

the purpose of a guide is to help people who haven't decided or don't know what they're doing

"eq to taste" is essentially "screw off, we won't help you" in a variety of ways

such as newcomers not knowing how to eq to taste

or getting a cs2 player stuck with a k361 because they imagine this eq they can't use will do something to make this unusable headphone work

or someone not looking to buy a headphone based on their favorite color being told to do exactly that

and,

[elder thistle]

yes, you found a written statement saying he doesn't know what he's doing

experience is not deferrable in place of orderless opinions within a discord server

and he felt like he had to do it anyway

[warm scarab]

it has pretty limp bass

I don't think I could confidently compare space travel to any sub 20$ decent iem in terms of performance

its really good for a tws but its really not that good compared to any wired iem

[low fossil]

I have a bunch of music that I want to play from my phone (Pixel), and the default music player on-device doesn't seem to have any of the features that I'd expect/need (functional shuffle within a category/album, playing while device is sleeping, etc.). Is there a particular app you all would recommend or would any of the ones on the Play Store do? Also maybe relevant is that said music is mostly video game OSTs, in FLAC, but I also have them in mp3 if that's needed.

[warm scarab]

its paid but poweramp player

if you have like spotify or some other streaming service you could also load your music onto your phone with it

[low fossil]

I don't, otherwise I'd probably just use that.

[warm scarab]

honestly this isn't really what you want but

id consider a youtube music subscription since they have a lot of OSTs in it

using flac for mobile listening is just kind of silly

unless you have issues with mobile data its the more convenient solution though I can understand not wanting a subscription service

[low fossil]

The inconvenience in setting it up isn't a problem, and I can wire my phones to my headphones if I want better quality than what I can get wirelessly.

[zenith pawn]

I think auxio might do that

[warm scarab]

you really wouldn't be able to hear anything flac provides over 320kbps mp3 in any environment that isn't your home

even at home unless you have trained ears you'd probably not hear a difference unless you do an abx test for 20 mins

[low fossil]

Using mp3 isn't a problem, I was just pointing out that I also have the flac files.

[warm scarab]

well you mentioned quality thats why I brought up the subject

idk id say poweramp player is the best android local music player

but to anyone looking for convenience id recommend yt music or spotify

mostly the prior if you like listening to stuff not found easily

[low fossil]

It's the same 10 or so game soundtracks for the most part.

[hidden pendant]

[haughty girder]

probably as in you're making reccs without testing...?

[elder thistle]

I've used both, just not side by side

things in common are definitely the amount of stage (~8 inches), dynamic and relatively detailed midrange, instrument separation hit around the $50 mark, microdetail / quiet sound pickup was medium

zero 2 bass was definitely tighter and more defined

[ashen elk]

I'm looking to upcycle some stereo speakers from an LG FB163 system. I want to hook them up to a TV for movies and gaming and for music. I found the Arylic B50 and the SMSL A50 Pro and those are the only options that have HDMI ARC. Does anyone have a similar setup and do you have any other recommendations or issues?

[astral drift]

Hello guys I have a problem that i cant seem to fix, i have tried to reinstall shazam chrome extension, change sound outputs, reinstall audio drivers and update them in the dev tools of shazam it shows whats in the screenshot. Idk how to fix it but its really usefull for me

[unique wind]

nvm nova is just straight up better

i think ill just order a second pair of novas and try to be more gentle with them

[unique wind]

found a pair for $85

[haughty girder]

sheesh nice

[steel escarp]

Hope they don't die in 3 months

[tawdry gale]

Ye and zero blue 2 only sounds ok with foam

Foam tips are terrible

[unique wind]

yeah me too lol

my last novas fell apart

it pisses me off because they sound incredible

and are very accepting of eq

[silent ivy]

So, which should i get? I value anc

[dusk fox]

since I want to pretend covid didn't happen could anyone point me to a decent webcam and microphone combo for zoom calls? A distant family member wants to be able to set up their pc at the home office so his whole family can "Skype" the rest of his side of their family. So likely a mic that's suitable for 3-4 ppl to be able to talk Infront of the computer, but not pick up the audio from their speakers causing a feedback loop

[lean grove]

How much do you want to spend.

[dusk fox]

Great question. Not too sure myself what they want. If my understanding is correct. I'm helping my cousin, so him and his wife is the grandpa and grandma, likely they are going to sit down in front of the computer together to talk with their daughter and her husband and their kids.

Since they're pretty tech illiterate, it has to be pretty user friendly

So not more then a couple of hundred bucks each. Preferably closer to 100-150 on the webcam and something similar for the microphone. As I suspect they already have their computer speakers set up and wanting to continue using them as is

If my writing is a mess, I apologize, I'm severely tired atm

[lean grove]

you're fine.

ultimately a $200-$300 budget for everything gives them a lot of leeway. but tbh they dont need to spend that much. most of the "not make a feedback loop" is done via software so zoom spends a lot of effort mitigating that and making sure that people sound their best despite the shittiest hardware imaginable.

I've got an amcrest AWC2198 that works fine and looks pretty good for only $20. it needs a decent amount of light to look good, so no dimly lit rooms.
and if they really want to avoid feedback loops and get best clarity, having something like a samson q2u or a audio technica atr2100x and then just having one person speak into it kind of like an interview would be best.

that should be like, $60-$80 for one audio setup

samson go is also a really good small option. real cheap.

really you just want the mic to be close to your mouth and away from the speakers. the speakers right next to the microphone that you'll see on laptops, or when people have a mic sitting on their desk next to their keyboard is where there will be issues

alternatively if you want something less jank, elgato has their Neo lineup which are more or less meant for casual streaming and professional stuff.

https://www.elgato.com/us/en/s/build-your-neo-bundle

[dusk fox]

Well, I see you actually know what you're talking about. I actually had a pretty good idea on the topic, but I'm not entirely sure if the solution as you've mentioned is going to be suitable. Most likely the tech and software available nowadays does a ton of the heavy lifting, as people don't know audio well enough to tweak or has a irrational fear of trying to tweak stuff.

I were thinking Along the line of a samson q2u and a Logitech webcam, but I'm dreading even that would be.. unappreciated by them, if for acoustics or phobia for tech.

[lean grove]

I will say im semi-knowledgable about recording equipment and not very knowledgable about webcams. so dont take whatever I say as law.

insta360 has some decent webcams though

[dusk fox]

Well, it's atleast a little more knowledge then the typical person, so yes. It means something

I'll see if our local retailers happens to carry those. Imo, webcams are crap, always has been and continues to be pretty lackluster for what they are. So I know that a 120-ish Logitech webcam is not great for the price, but nor are the competition much better in most regards

[lean grove]

yeah. and thats why i say just save your money.

because the difference between a $20 webcam and a $120 webcam is not that big

[dusk fox]

My point of view too. But it shouldn't be the same experience as a webcam from 08' and ruin the family voice call. But I suspect they might get frustrated if the model I pick looks too cheap, even if they don't know what's decent or rubbish themselves

Same with the microphone. If it looks cheap or tacky, and that many things got gamery-fied after the demand from people wanting "streaming accessories" just makes the products more annoying to sort through.

[lean grove]

this is with my $20 webcam

much better than the webcams of '08

[dusk fox]

Again, I apologize for being somewhat negative. I'm just very done for today and my patience has run dry for today

Fair point, though it was where my mental image of a crappy generic-ish webcam came from

[lean grove]

yeah i get it. i think i've given you all the info i can reasonably give. theres not really a magic bullet here. if there were a perfect product for audio and webcam with minimal setup. even if there were an infinite budget there would still be something to bungle up and get not great audio and video

well, at least for the technologically illeterate

as you spend more money you just get things that can be fine tuned more and more for a better outcome

[dusk fox]

A good clarification, certainly

[lean grove]

yeah. a million dollars wouldnt get you any closer to what you want. $300 should cover it, but i just cant think of exactly what would be best for grandpa and grandma to work good out of the box and not need any special treatment

[dusk fox]

Well, they could pay me a pretty penny to set it up exactly as they would've wanted it to. Doubt they would pay me a million dollars, but I certainly would be able to dial in a audio setup and a decent webcam retailing $300 that would sound pretty damn good in their computer room.

Anyways, I'll do some looking around for something decent. And as you mentioned, I don't think both parts combined doesn't need to cost as much. But picky people gets on my nerves when I've put some time and research in to it and still being displeased with the end result.

Either way, I appreciate your ideas and time. Didn't mean to be such a grumpy jackass. I'll take my leave and get some well deserved rest. But I wish you a good rest of your day!

[tawdry gale]

https://headphones.com/blogs/reviews/sennheiser-hd-550-review-a-legitimate-gamechanger

Sennheiser has somewhat succeeded

[dawn panther]

my desk speakers are too good they are rather tiring to listen to. how can i make them easier to listen to?

[zenith pawn]

what's tiring about them?

sometimes that means too much treble, does it feel like your ears are being pierced too much after a while?

[dawn panther]

I haven't been able to pinpoint that yet

they're the Klipsch RP-500M2

I think too much treble might be it but im not really too sure

[zenith pawn]

perhaps they are turned up too loud

[dawn panther]

perhaps

they're rather close to me

I dont know about ideal placement

they're very analytical

[lean grove]

can toe them out, so pointing them more away from you

[dusk oyster]

yo which one do i get

Turtle Beach Atlas Air Wireless
Hyperx Cloud Alpha
DT990 Pro
steelseries nova pro
other

[dawn panther]

they are kinda pointed right at me...

[lean grove]

point them kinda away from you then

[dusk oyster]

dis the stuff i got recommended if its all straight ass no making fun of me

[lean grove]

yes but how well can it hold soup

[tawdry gale]

😰

[elder thistle]

but like how does it sound

was there even a word of it

you may think I say that while deliberately ignoring frequency response, but

minus individual earshape and mild blips from the headphones, there is no frequency response

if it's such a neutral device then we're only left with techs

no need to compensate for mental adjustment or FR masking

hm

timbre was mentioned but only in a form strictly tied to FR

I'm with crinacle pre-release on this one. timbre is part FR, part tech

[silent ivy]

I mean back in 2014 let's say, the 2006 imac was just fine for that (actually using Skype lol)

[uneven drum]

Yo chat I have a ponder

I have this str-dg510 or something and was wondering if I should buy a dongle run it from my pc

My current audio chip’s is alc897 and yes I’m using aux

[tawdry gale]

Read his subjective impressions

I think i'm gonna go demo hd550

[tawdry gale]

Its in the article

[elder thistle]

if I add an eq module to an instrument in music production and do absolutely nothing to it,

did I actually eq?

[tawdry gale]

5128 is a measuring rig

[elder thistle]

but if we subtract tilted df from the measurement, we're more or less left with no modifications

[tawdry gale]

Yes but it can be a good purchase for people who find 650 and 600 too shouty and dont want to eq

[elder thistle]

in relation to the treble (5k+), the mc450 is not shouty at all

[unique wind]

[elder thistle]

keep in mind that the frequency response you see here is likely something you will never have again after replacing the earpads

hd560s's official earpads haven't been sold for a while now. they were replaced with the much boomier, mid-dipped, and muffled hd559 earpads

[tall tide]

anyone know why the ANC is basically gone after a firmware updateon my sennheiser momentum 4?

[frosty ocean]

Is 800MB rare for commercially pressed Audio CDs?

[zenith pawn]

that's like dead average

[frosty ocean]

But damn....that's a lot of tracks

[frosty ocean]

I've never seen Gb audio CDs. I'll have to look up if Dreamcast had any

[zenith pawn]

wdym Gb audio cds?

[zenith pawn]

i guess on the longer side but still

[frosty ocean]

If 800 is the average, id assume the high end might be about 1/4 to 1/8 larger

[zenith pawn]

average was probably wrong, it really depends on the average length of an album of music

i think 84 minutes is probably the limit of how much you can expect to reliably fit on an audio cd

[frosty ocean]

I wonder if Redbook has mono in its spec. Like, can i fit 150 minutes of mono on a CD?

[zenith pawn]

i dont think it does but don't quote me on that

[frosty ocean]

I'm gonna assume all discs were technically 800MB, but usage varies.
Also, in my mind, a music album(cd) averages 60 minutes. But I'm probably wrong

[zenith pawn]

no

[frosty ocean]

What if... We release an album in stereo, but instruct the user to pan the balance to "change sides"?

[zenith pawn]

that would be really funny

[frosty ocean]

Also, iirc, you can fit more "data" as a redbook audio pressing than trying to put wav files on a "data" cd

[zenith pawn]

yep

because the cd-r format has less efficient error correction, in my understanding

[frosty ocean]

I'll listen to it at work

Now i gotta relearn what hdcd is and how to decode it

Weirdly...all my hdcd cds are country(namely Reba)

[zenith pawn]

ive only got a couple hdcds and haven't bothered with decoding them yet

[frosty ocean]

At this point I'm my life, i think I've had an easier time ripping SACDs

Thanks Sony, for making your SACD capable BDRs, just a bit too smart...

[warm scarab]

wtf is exact audio copy

cd ripper?

[frosty ocean]

EAC is peak audio technology...

That's like being in the Gaming channel and asking who Sega is...

[lean grove]

ive never heard of her

is she on tiktok

[rugged patio]

anyone know where i can get something like a USB-C breakout board but for audio?

like if i solder it to a small speaker and hook it up to a phone it would work

like a 2 in 1 breakout board and audio driver

[warm scarab]

wdym by breakout board

like a mixer?

[rugged patio]

sorry i meant these

i need it to be male

[warm scarab]

uh

[rugged patio]

these are just straight data and +-

[warm scarab]

yeah not possible

speakers need analog input

that is digital output

your solution is to just get a usb c to 3.5 adapter

like the apple one

cheapest one

[rugged patio]

im trying to make small speakers that attach directly to the bottom of your phone

and design and 3d print the enclosure

[warm scarab]

well then just use the apple usb c to 3.5 one

it costs 10$ and trying to build something of your own would be pretty stupid

you'd need to design a digital to analog converter unit

[rugged patio]

then cut the jack and strip the wires or use the jack?

[warm scarab]

good luck doing that for cheaper than 10$

[warm scarab]

there is a chip inside of it

as long as the chip is intact and receives a usb signal then it will work

why not just design the enclosure in a way the apple usb c adapter is placed onto it and route its 3.5 end on the other side

[rugged patio]

yeah im probably gonna to that

is the chip in the type c port ot the 3.5mm

[warm scarab]

I would presume on the usb c side because the other one is round

[rugged patio]

and the cable part is just 2 wires right?

[warm scarab]

3

left +, right + and ground

[rugged patio]

alright, what small audio drivers do you recommend?

[warm scarab]

can you define audio driver

speakers?

[rugged patio]

yeah mb

[warm scarab]

no I mean your terminology is correct I just wanted to make sure

uh

honestly I wouldn't

the effort needed to make a speaker enclosure that sounds good on your own is so great

that I would not deviate from existing DIY projects with measured outputs

saves like 500 hours of tampering

[rugged patio]

sounds terrible, im doing it

[warm scarab]

well good luck

I would read a ton of stuff on how to design a speaker though

id perhaps get a dsp unit to do correction eq to it

[rugged patio]

is it really that complicated

[warm scarab]

if you just want to get sound

then no you just cross 3 wires

well 2 per side

[rugged patio]

its not for audio enthusiasts

[warm scarab]

if you want to get anything enjoyable to listen to

yes

potentially thousands of hours of research

[rugged patio]

im trying to make something good for people with hearing loss

[warm scarab]

I see

[tawdry gale]

A headphone?

[warm scarab]

well I couldn't say without trying

[tawdry gale]

DT990

[warm scarab]

its a speaker lol

[tawdry gale]

oh

B&W have a lot of treble

[warm scarab]

honestly it shouldn't be hard to create something that has audio coming out of it

use some circuitry you see online to boost the treble

or to lower everything not the treble

and that should be as good as you can do for people with hearing damage

without doing correctional dsp

which is expensive

[rugged patio]

maybe i shoud look into speakers with a 3.5mm jack and just use it

[warm scarab]

perhaps

[rugged patio]

janky but it works

[warm scarab]

go get some shit ass logitechs and put them in there

surround them with some foam so there isn't resonance in there

[rugged patio]

i can emulate foam with infill patterns

[warm scarab]

may or may not be a better result than randomly throwing in drivers into a wooden box and expecting decent sound

[rugged patio]

yeah im not taking that bet

im just gonna go the safe route

[warm scarab]

tbh cheap drivers are 10$ so your choice

i doubt it would be good but it would sate your curiosity

[rugged patio]

alright, thanks for the help

[warm scarab]

np

[zenith pawn]

what have you done

[frosty ocean]

FLAC level 8?

[zenith pawn]

Oh

I thought that was wav

That's why I was confused about half size

[frosty ocean]

I wouldnt be suprised if I ripped a album as WAV and it was 400MB. I've seen some pretty lazy albums

[warm scarab]

where do you live

[frosty ocean]

are you coming to my house to kill me?

[warm scarab]

no im going to file a complaint for piracy to the local authorities

you cant disrespect digital goods like this

[zenith pawn]

I'm used to 40-50 min albums so not that out of line

[zenith pawn]

cd ripping isn't piracy :wholesome:

[warm scarab]

thats for the police to decide

[zenith pawn]

I think they have decided

[warm scarab]

death row for xnamkcor

[frosty ocean]

If I knew it was a christmas album...i probably wouldn't have gotten it...

[warm scarab]

bts?

this guy listens to kpop

[slate patrol]

i recently got a mic and anything that i should do or keep in mind

also how far should the mic be from me

[molten lotus]

Can someone recommend me some software to check if I have any missing tracks in my library by checking tags?

I have all my tags right and the folder structure all set. Just need to check if some tracks are missing cus im sus

[steel escarp]

@lean grove after a few weeks of having owned a Susvara, and having resoldered my dac/amp interconnect to fix polarity, and modding my glasses to get a better seal for sub bass
they are pretty good

I like them now

he1000 stealth that I was using before has an insane amount of treble at 8kHz and above which I had programmed my brain to, but like, I literally cannot switch back, its too much now.

I perceived it as pleasant before switching to susvara

[grand granite]

1 to 2 inches from what I have heard but it all depends on how much gain you put on it

[lean grove]

Maybe the woke mind virus has programmed your brain into liking susvara

[wintry mirage]

what does class ab amplifier mean and should i get one over a class d

the one i have says "Class AB complementary linear output" not really sure what that means

[steel escarp]

Likely

But like, it's way better than it was with inverse phase

[lean grove]

Was one channel out of phase or were both channels out of phase

[lean grove]

Class D amps are cheaper to make, more efficient, and can usually put out more power than an equivalent priced class AB.

[wintry mirage]

i dont need more power thats for sure

[lean grove]

But other than that you can't really make any generalized statements.

[steel escarp]

Both

[wintry mirage]

it has a fan thats quite loud

[lean grove]

Definitely the woke mind virus. I'm afraid it's terminal.

[steel escarp]

Nah I did a blind test, it was audible

[lean grove]

Class D amps usually don't need a fan.

[steel escarp]

Like randomized

2 samples, 10 guesses

[wintry mirage]

its too loud

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-shame-gif-26273082

[wintry mirage]

how do i make it quieter

the volume knob is too intense

10% volume is about 93db at 2 meters

its even louder when i play wav files

[warm scarab]

use an attenuator

build one

takes like 4 resistors

https://robrobinette.com/HeadphoneResistorNetworkCalculator.htm

use this website

lower resistance you can get away with the better

you should be able to make the thing in the graph even if you have 30iq it takes like 2 connections each side

[wintry mirage]

will the output of the speaker go through the resistor

im guessing it will

will i have to buy some big resistors because of the power im running

[warm scarab]

yes

[warm scarab]

probably not

are you running speakers or headphones

[wintry mirage]

speakers

[warm scarab]

damn yeah that wont do

i dont advise an attenuator for that

[wintry mirage]

its about 250 watts per channel

im in stereo

[steel escarp]

the brain worms are telling me to spend 1200 on a dac

again

[fair pawn]

which one now

do it

Wandla?

[steel escarp]

Chord Qutest

wanda is like 4k

lol

just another ESS dac

[fair pawn]

I just bought a Susvara a month ago as well

little less than a month

time to upgrade my stack for it

[steel escarp]

I run it off Violectric HPA V222

and for 1400 euros, it honestly runs it really well

[fair pawn]

I'm only runnign it through a BHA-1

I'm considering a V590

[steel escarp]

how is the BHA-1, 3k euros

[fair pawn]

that thing is old

[steel escarp]

while it outputs 2W into 32 ohms

[fair pawn]

very old

it's nowhere near 3K price nowadays

[steel escarp]

I see

[steel escarp]

test if you actually notice a difference between that amp and violectric v222

level match them

[fair pawn]

it was released in 2012

[steel escarp]

wrong react, but like, compare v590 vs v222 before buying

[fair pawn]

it made sense as a totl back in the days

[fair pawn]

I don't have much places to try the V222

[steel escarp]

The difference between Niimbus US5 and V222 was negligible for Susvara

[fair pawn]

theres no store around with Violetric

[steel escarp]

weirdly enough he1000 stealth changed more with going from v222 to niimbus than sus

[fair pawn]

huh that's quite intresting

now a I got a question

did you buy a different cable for the Sus

I need one

the stock one is trash

[steel escarp]

yeah

Forza Audioworks cable

[fair pawn]

can hardly call it a cable

[steel escarp]

I have the 2.5mm sus

[fair pawn]

mine's the 3.5mm

[steel escarp]

but it was basically identical in terms of sound to the 3.5mm one

[fair pawn]

maybe I should just use the D8000 cable for it

[steel escarp]

tho actually, I liked mine more, but could just be due to fresher pads

[fair pawn]

I hate the cable so much man

but I don't have another XLR cable of 3.5

[steel escarp]

I am keeping it solely to keep the resell value in tact

[fair pawn]

so I'm really desperate to get a replacement cable for it

[steel escarp]

just use the d8000 cable

[fair pawn]

my D8K is 6.3 ended

so also need to buy a XLR cable for it

[steel escarp]

forza audioworks is nice

make sure to select the darker sleeving

I accidentally ordered the wrong coller for my sus

so now I have this color

[steel escarp]

I prefer pure copper

[fair pawn]

434 Euro

[steel escarp]

https://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=80

nah get this one

[steel escarp]

I tried that cable, I don't like the sleeving, too thick

[fair pawn]

ok that's more reasonable

I should look on Headfi for 2nd hand cable

[steel escarp]

it will go up to like 150 with shipping

probably

this is how mine arrived

[fair pawn]

looks pretty neat

[steel escarp]

I have the darker sleeved one (3.5mm), it would have looked better with Susvara, I'm still annoyed I selected the wrong color.

I can't use it on my 2.5mm Susvara

[fair pawn]

Yikes

[timid pollen]

Hey guys, gals, and all my other in-between pals. I was wondering if this Rode-nt1 clone will be decent enough or not, all the reviews seemed alright and there is one with a comparison graph in it. its the Alabs AC88. only downside I saw during all of the testings I have seen people do are the off axis rejection

[lean grove]

why this mic specifically

there are lots of other $50 mics out there that are quite reputable

[uneven drum]

I’m tempted to run my audio through a tv then to my avr from my oc because the tv has optical out

[timid pollen]

mainly because of what came with it and the form factor. most of the other 50 dollar mics were podcast like microphones or where alot shorter than I liked. While it is cheap plastic this mic comes with a shock mount and a screw on pop filter

[orchid blaze]

can anyone recommend a good earphones for me?

[white portal]

what do you need them for? music? podcasts? games?

and whats your price range?

[orchid blaze]

using it for music or like general use

no gaming

by price range is around the 100 usd

[white portal]

and do you want in-ears, on-ears, or over-ears?

[orchid blaze]

in ears

wireless ones

[white portal]

okay

are amazon links ok?

[orchid blaze]

we don't have amazon hereee

[white portal]

ok i'll send direct from seller

[orchid blaze]

ill check their names and see if we have them in shops here

[white portal]

gotcha. so for that price i'd highly recommend the nothing ear (a)'s

they have a really good frequency response and they look sick as frick lol

[orchid blaze]

https://bahrain.microless.com/product/nothing-ear-a-wireless-earbuds-11mm-dynamic-driver-hi-res-audio-45-db-noise-cancellation-up-to-42-5-hours-playback-smart-anc-algorithm-transparency-mode-adaptive-anc-black-b162-duplicate/

this one?

[white portal]

yep!

Their frequency response and consistency is amazing.

[orchid blaze]

ooo its the same price as the galaxy buds3 pro

[orchid blaze]

does it matter which device its paired to

[white portal]

it shouldn't

[exotic yacht]

where can i find memory foam eartips for samsung buds 2

i live in romania, dont have amazon

[stone quartz]

Maybe try AliExpress

[exotic yacht]

uhh im looking rn and i dont see any specifically for buds 2

and idk what universal ones to use

[stone quartz]

These look like they might work

[exotic yacht]

i put buds 2 ones in my cart

idk how well they will work

[stone quartz]

Hopefully fairly well

I find that the foam ones don't last very long

[exotic yacht]

silicones itch my ears

[exotic yacht]

wait can u give me the link to the 2nd ones

[stone quartz]

Sure, one sec

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005828669679.html

Looks like standard Buds 2 have a deeper stalk than the Buds 2 Pro

[exotic yacht]

ure a life saver

[fervent dome]

Could anyone suggest a DAC I can use with my IEMs? (they are the Truthear Crinale Zero afaik)

The main reason just is to make switching hosts with a kvm easier

[tawdry gale]

Apple dongle

[haughty girder]

please don't get garbage foams

[haughty girder]

Apple dongle, Jcally JM12, Fiio JA11

[exotic yacht]

i dont have many options

[haughty girder]

your option is to not use foams

cheap foams will literally crumble in your ears within a month

the only foam tips that are really worth it is Azla Foamax and they're expensive

[dull trout]

jm6 pro if you dont have apple dongle available, and also extra power

*not that you'll ever need them

[livid ruin]

if you don’t mind them changing the sound signature a bit

sure

[stone quartz]

I didn't consider that

Changing the pads on my Beyerdynamic headphones made a slight difference to the sound signature.

[molten lotus]

paid like $90 for a elgato wave dx and $100 for a scarlett solo3 and im not really impressed with the mic quality, havent really eq'd it

if anyone has like a video or something thats good lmk

[elder thistle]

did you replace it with the same kind?

I will say that the clone dt990 pads are actually quite similar sounding to the real thing

[stone quartz]

I replaced them with some Brainwavz ones if I recall correctly

[jolly vine]

Has anyone tried the Truthear crinacle blue 2? I really like the original blue the nozzle is just too big for me. I really wanted these to be great but all the YouTubers are shitting on them

[heady elbow]

Anyone know any good earbuds for like $100 or less? I don't have a super high budget but want something that sounds good

I've seen people say good things about the Sony WF-C500

[zenith pawn]

haven't tried them but one thing you should consider is that they're designed to be used with foam tips instead of silicone which is a dealbreaker for me personally

[haughty girder]

they work great if you pair them with darker eartips like Final type E, though.

[zenith pawn]

do they have good imaging like the zero:red

[haughty girder]

Aqua measured it

[haughty girder]

yes

[zenith pawn]

i might consider it if the treble is fixable without foam

[haughty girder]

treble is one of those things that if it's close to being good, you can easily fix with things like different eartips

[jolly vine]

@haughty girder That's reassuring. I'm not the biggest fan of foam tips and I really liked the original blues but the nozzle was really uncomfortable

[zenith pawn]

any guesses as to what the pickup pattern of pixel 8 top and bottom microphone would be

i am getting curious about trying to do stereo recording cheaply

[haughty girder]

effectively omnidirectional depending on software choice

[zenith pawn]

i figure choosing the "unprocessed" AudioSource would make it just the natural omnidirectional? i guess that could make my phone sort of an a-b system

idk how to test this with my actual phone on the actual app i'm using

should i just scream into it at different directions and compare each channel

seems to have super wide imaging with the unprocessed option selected

[unique wind]

PEQdB IE Target

[haughty girder]

yea pretty much

pretty sure there's apps you can use to record each mic as a separate track

[zenith pawn]

can't find any that do 3 tracks, since i have 3 mics

not quite sure what the back mic is doing in unprocessed mode

i do happen to have a blue snowball so i wonder if combining phone with cardioid mic is meaningful in any way

[vestal egret]

Chat what earbuds do i get for around 50€, should i get cmf buds pro 2 or is there sum better

[haughty girder]

probably disabled tbh

bottom mic is primary iirc, top mic is secondary

[jolly vine]

Random question, what effect does the size of the opening on the eartips for Iems have on the sound?

[lean grove]

Assuming you're just changing the tips, the smaller bore will usually reduce treble.

[jolly vine]

Oh ok excellent

[haughty girder]

Do note there are some widebores that reduce treble more than narrow bores, it really depends per eartip

but generally yes, smaller bore reduces more treble

[zenith pawn]

hopefully so, I don't want it messing up my otherwise unprocessed left and right recording

[tough lava]

My monitor sounds slightly less like a huge pile of shit when you pull the bass out of it

[empty plume]

Anyone know a good pair of iems under 20? Happy with going w Ali express or anything else

[zenith pawn]

7hz zero 2

$25 on amazon but if you need the $5 then it should be possible to find below $20 on aliexpress

[empty plume]

I couldn't find it in my budget

@zenith pawn do yk if these are good

[zenith pawn]

i honestly would just wait then if at all possible, ive seen the 7hz zero:2 go on sale for $18-20 often, and they easily beat a lot of more expensive iems

ive heard of the castor but don't know if they're any good

from what i've heard they might be decent

[haughty girder]

Castor is uh...

lets just say

KZ is just bad in general

and Castor is uh, terrible on the spectrum of bad

[zenith pawn]

@empty plume it seems like the 7hz zero:2 are $18 right now? isn't that within your $20 budget

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806682486478.html this is the page for them

[empty plume]

God damn it

I didn't see it

[haughty girder]

Truthear gate clears

and they're also like 15 bucks

[zenith pawn]

sorry do i hear new budget iem for me to try

now you got me curious, how do they compare to the 7hz

[haughty girder]

it's not even that new lmao

but to the salnotes zero2 it's a bit more tonally balanced I'd say, whereas zero2 was warm tilted and slightly dark

the biggest upside to Gate is the cable though

Zero2 cable sucks

Gate cable is probably one of the best mic cables you can get bar none

[empty plume]

Do you know something like

Under 10 hacks

Bucks

on ali

Im gonna save the rest for a new Kb or mic

[haughty girder]

you can't even spare up to 20...?

[empty plume]

My akg k371 ( I think that's what they are called ) are breaking

[empty plume]

Need a new mic

[haughty girder]

how?

[empty plume]

I don't have on rn and it sucks for playing comp games

[empty plume]

I got up from my chair too quick

[haughty girder]

no wdym its breaking

show picture

[empty plume]

And like the arc up ripped up u can see the yellow

[haughty girder]

it might be fixable

[empty plume]

earcup

Yellow foam

[haughty girder]

pleather wore out - you can just replace em

[empty plume]

fr?

bet

[haughty girder]

I assume that?

[empty plume]

Like that

Yes

Also

They are really quiet

[haughty girder]

wait is the leather cracked at all?

[empty plume]

yes

the earcip leather

it's like 4 years old

[haughty girder]

headphone max loudness is not determined by the headphones but rather the source its plugged into

[empty plume]

Oh

So I can just buy replacement earcups?

[haughty girder]

my 361 got replacement cups from Ali

[empty plume]

Tysm

[empty plume]

Thank you again🙏

[haughty girder]

yeah I paid like nothing for em

[empty plume]

I'm just making new accs

I'm gonna buy a mic too

[zenith pawn]

bros getting that welcome deal

[haughty girder]

uh don't do that too much you'll get flagged and get banned

[empty plume]

yeah ik

this is like my second time doing this

in the span of like 9 months

[haughty girder]

if you have an inactive account, I believe welcome deal comes back either every 6 or 12 months

[lilac fulcrum]

Xm4 or momentuum 4 ewhich should i get?

[glossy horizon]

Anyone know which is a better buy , the xm5 earbuds or pixel buds 2 pro
I have a pixel 9 pro xl and im using the galaxy buds 2 right now

[tired haven]

Anyone know of any soundbars that can be powered off USB-C PD? I've got a free USB 3.2 gen2 port and I'm wondering if a single cord audio solution exists.

[lean grove]

USB doesn't have enough power for speakers so no.

[tired haven]

a USB 3.2 Gen2 can deliver up to 100 watts along with data

More than enough for a non-audiophile application

hell, my car only has a 100watt stereo

[warm scarab]

it wouldn't be a smart business decision to produce speakers specifically for people with 3.2 ports

[lean grove]

Yes but not every USB can do that. So imagine you're designing a speaker with this and 50% of your reviews are one star because people don't have a compatible port and it doesn't work.

Alternatively. you could have just done a 120/240v ac input like everything else and that everyone has access to.

[warm scarab]

I know some logitech speakers that work with usb but

they aren't anything i could recommend

[tired haven]

I'll just make my own soundbar idk

with blackjack

and hookers

[warm scarab]

i hope you know how to do room correctional eq

[tired haven]

I'm currently using homemade speakers off a little 20w aliexpress amp

shouldn't be too hard to 3d print a single housing to fit everything, right?

[warm scarab]

no

making speakers is easy

making good sounding speakers is very hard

[tired haven]

I don't need a THX certified sound system

Just equal to or better than $40 logitech speakers

[warm scarab]

thx certification is a meme but go on

[warm scarab]

well i hope its that good

[tired haven]

time to fall down the parts express rabbit hole I guess

[zenith pawn]

so about my phone

[lean grove]

Good luck 👍

[zenith pawn]

my keyboard recordings have insane stereo imaging from my phone in unprocessed mode

I just realized I happened to make basically an ideal a-b stereo recording setup for my keyboard using my phone

since my phone was about 3 inches away from keyboard, and the distance between mics is 5.9 inches

so maybe that's why it sounded so right

[livid ruin]

but but it’s an indicator of marketing++ brand

the sticker is very important

[steel escarp]

the brain worms calmed down and made me get chord mojo 2 for 350 instead of chord qutest for 1100

saved 750, basically earned 750 euros, meaning 750 cable budget

[mint echo]

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone has any recommendations regarding studio monitors, I can pick up a pair of KRK rokit 7 G4s for €250. Thinking that maybe they're too big for my relatively small living room PC setup.

[lean grove]

Take a look at the Adam d3v

[mint echo]

those are rather small at 3,5 inches, I'm looking for 5 or 7 inch monitors

[lean grove]

You just said how they're too big for your relatively small living room setup

[mint echo]

was considering between de 5s or 7s, but I like the idea of not needing a sub with the 7s

[lean grove]

What do you think qualifies a speaker to need or not need a subwoofer

Because I don't think those rokit 7s can do 20hz.

[mint echo]

nope, lowest is 40hz

but generally that should be good enough

I think

was also curious if there's anything specific I should know before getting into active monitors

[lean grove]

Cheap ones hiss.

That's about it.

[mint echo]

I'm literally coming from this

[mint echo]

I read about that, should be mostly fixed if you hook them up on a power socket different from the one my pc is connected to?

[lean grove]

Nope.

If your monitors hiss the only way to fix that is to get better monitors.

[mint echo]

I'm going to inspect the 7s I've bid on irl before I buy them, so I suppose I can check

is it something they all do, or is it a sign of wear?

[lean grove]

I'm sure it gets worse with age but most below $500 will hiss.

Unless they specifically market with low noise amplifiers you can usually assume they will

[warm scarab]

depends on the cause

some speakers you can't do anything about

some speakers you can fix by preventing ground loops or isolating cables

but there are some like the ones nils mentioned that have hissing caused just due to the engineering

[buoyant vale]

I had cheap adams that were very low self noise

[mint echo]

was also looking at adams, are those generally better than krks?

I'm ready rather mixed reviews on krk in general

[warm scarab]

generalization is a bad idea

[buoyant vale]

https://tenor.com/view/indecisive-i-dont-know-not-sure-larry-david-gif-5682454

[warm scarab]

most audio companies have like 5 items you could legitimately call good and 50 ones you shouldn't buy

this isn't due to the other 50 ones being necessarily terrible but they are just not competitive enough in their price range

[mint echo]

right

[buoyant vale]

good ones to look at are JBL, kali and neumann imo

[warm scarab]

jbl 305 is really good for its price

i dont propose there isn't better but i dont know of anything that is better

[mint echo]

I'm looking to spend around €300

[warm scarab]

jbl305p are that much

but they may be big for your setup which was your issue initially

[mint echo]

my friend who's very into audio recommended me to look at second hand, because unless they're blown speakers can't really be broken in any significant way

dont mind the mess, but was thinking to hang them on the wall on ear level on the elft and right side of the star wars light box

it's not a cramped setup perse, was just afraid that perhaps 7 inch monitors were more meant for much larger setups in general

[warm scarab]

hanging isn't a good idea

you'd want platforms below them and put the speakers above the platforms

[lean grove]

See the new Erin's audio corner video on the d3v

[warm scarab]

or else you will have resonance issues

[buoyant vale]

yeah those are meant to be good

but this guy is set on bigger ones for whatever reason

[mint echo]

I was thinking about that yes, but I figured it wasn't going to be that big of a deal. I'm making some music, but I'm not mixing and mastering on some high level

[lean grove]

Also very low is relative. Vanatoos were very low as well but I still noticed and it bothered me. Hence why I only do passive speakers.

If I can hear it, it's too high

[warm scarab]

you would also be blocking the exhausts of the speakers with the wall

which is also a bad idea

[mint echo]

right across it is our couch where we sit down to watch movies also

[buoyant vale]

well they rivaled much more expensive ones

[mint echo]

exhaust is on the front of KRKs

[lean grove]

Klaus actually points speakers away from him because he thinks they sound better. So in his case they would be blocked by the wall.

But you are correct a normal human with a fully functioning prefrontal cortex would have the speakers facing the right way

[warm scarab]

I just place the headphones on the wall and turn the volume really high

[mint echo]

I suppose I could put poles for them straight to the wall

figured wall mounts would be better

Just don't have a lot of money to spend right now, my current speakers are dying so I need something new.
Found 7' krks for €250 and figured I could make it work in my setup

[unique wind]

is that optimal?

[warm scarab]

yes

but watch the resonance on openbacks

[unique wind]

crinacle the comedian

[warm scarab]

who meta

[unique wind]

buy my $250 chifi (no i wont tell you the driver config, and no you cant cancel your order or return it)

[warm scarab]

michael

[unique wind]

klaus

[warm scarab]

buy me a brushless motor driver

[unique wind]

i think you can afford that

[warm scarab]

affording it makes me unable to afford a brushless motor

[lean grove]

Michael is also poor Klaus

[unique wind]

yes donate pls

[lean grove]

He is stuck in iem hell

[unique wind]

oh update

the open box novas that i bought the other day

the left has driver rattle

☠️

[lean grove]

Did you see my new speakers Michael

[unique wind]

i dont think i did

[warm scarab]

we should torch michael

[unique wind]

[lean grove]

Wrong photo

[unique wind]

who was that gentleman

[unique wind]

are these smsl tabebuia a200?

they look interesting

[lean grove]

I now have the full Smsl kit

[warm scarab]

make sure the driver supports 24v and 20a btw michael

thanks

[unique wind]

the only thing that you will receive from me in the mail is an explosive device

[warm scarab]

i can pawn that

do it

[lean grove]

Klaus will turn it into a gofundme

[warm scarab]

gofundme or i mail this bomb to an orphanage

[unique wind]

do they sound good for the anime OSTs that you listen to?

[warm scarab]

no

[lean grove]

Once I put them on some strands. Right now they are kinda bloated with lower mids/upper bass

Better than the tozzis but not worth $600

[warm scarab]

why dont you room eq them

[unique wind]

neumann kh80 tiny desk speaker king

[warm scarab]

also those triangles dont look like audiophile ones

this nils guy is not smart

[unique wind]

curved displays are not optimal for acoustics

not audiophile approved

[warm scarab]

are curved displays optimal for anything

aside from being overrated and look bad

[zenith pawn]

3 stars 21 reviews

[cyan heath]

Are these good speakers for the price

https://a.co/d/2NTc7TK

[warm scarab]

just got reminded nils uses a curved monitor

day ruined

[zenith pawn]

I wonder if that's really shaurar whoever the name is in the reviews

its just them trying to dox crinacle

[unique wind]

i like a lil curve on a big monitor

i wish my lg c4 42 had a slight curve

it looks like it's curved backwards even though it's flat

[zenith pawn]

Sharur

[warm scarab]

monitors should have stayed 4:3

[unique wind]

yeah i think 16:9 is too wide

[terse river]

Rookies have 16:9

Real men have 21:9

Or 4:3

[warm scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382801814547988481/1354228577133924443/PXL_20250314_222047957.jpg?ex=67e48725&is=67e335a5&hm=a0ff5d58448d5ab332f47797dccb61fa8e7173cf8dd99342ba7874ae110d1519&

soulless

soul

[terse river]

Wait holdon

[zenith pawn]

What is that reaction emoji

[warm scarab]

its sharur shirtless

[terse river]

If I have 2 ultra wides on top of each other, is my aspect ration technically 7:6 lol

[warm scarab]

cant divide it to 4:3

cringe

also wtf is that use case get a doctor

psycopath in chat

[zenith pawn]

normalize expressing aspect ratios with denominator 1

[warm scarab]

no

what is a denominator btw

[terse river]

Math is not strong with this one

[warm scarab]

english isnt my language

[terse river]

It’s the bottom part of the fraction

[warm scarab]

the result?

oh

[terse river]

Yeah idk what this guy is saying

[warm scarab]

ok

i get it now

[warm scarab]

explaining a math term to a guy who didn't study math in english terms using more english terms

very intelligent havent thought of that one

[zenith pawn]

1.5:1 instead of 3:2

denominator is 1

Hard to compare 3:2 vs 16:9 in your head without computing for example

[haughty girder]

3:2 > 4:3

3:2 is actually perfect

[haughty girder]

If you do photography, 3:2 is literally burned into ur brain

4:3 is supposedly roughly what the human vision sees, but I think that 3:2 just looks perfect

[zenith pawn]

But if you encounter an aspect ratio you've never seen before

It is harder to calculate and interpret

[livid ruin]

i’d like a higher res 1:1 monitor

[livid ruin]

it depends on the distance or size of the object from eyes

the farther, the lower the aspect ratio

[warm scarab]

no