audio-tech

[zenith pawn]

i guess i dont have a good way to ab test this because every tone generator i found makes a pop when you turn on and off

but i think about 28 hz it becomes hard to feel anymore, at least testing with my 7hz zero;2

[warm silo]

I hear 17hz lmao

and hear up to around 18.7khz

[verbal fog]

it might be my eq but my headphone setup can go down to like 2 hz and have that still be audible

but like uh high frequencies i understand its just a moving air fast but its barely moving the air kinda

but like for bass it moves a lotta air and if you move enough then it makes enough of a noise or feeling or whatever to be perceivable and uh i dunno if you setup everything in a manner then low frequencies very much become noticeable

not that every song uses them but its still nice to have

[verbal fog]

also how do i eq better on an android ive tried two apps and theyre both still restrictive and they only go down to like 60/30hz and its evil

[zenith pawn]

i hear up to like 19k iirc, havent tested that again recently because i hate the sound

[warm scarab]

poweramp eq is the best one out there

but it has paid features

wavelet is the free one

and chief like

30hz is low enough

what is your issue with it

[verbal fog]

yeah wavelet was one i didnt ike

[zenith pawn]

are you hearing it through y our ear or just feeling the movement on your eardrum?

[verbal fog]

30 is low enough i forgot to mention too though that uh i cant take down all the other frequencies enough though and the ui is shitty too

[zenith pawn]

and how loud di you have it

[warm scarab]

you literally cant hear 2hz

your headphones can absolutely not go to 2hz

[verbal fog]

well you can sense it and its still air moving

[warm scarab]

yes

[verbal fog]

i can tell the driver is moving at 2 hz and it generates a sensation

[zenith pawn]

ok that confirms what i was guessing

[warm scarab]

you can sense it when you overblow its volume disproportionally

like

you absolutely cant hear it at normal volumes

you can hear it at volumes where it shakes shit around including you

[verbal fog]

i am using headphones

[warm scarab]

ok cool

wave your arm around

[verbal fog]

on a speaker setup id fight to hit that

[warm scarab]

thats can produce 2hz

[verbal fog]

it would be funny though

[warm scarab]

you cannot hit it

it destroys your house

[verbal fog]

you can move some air at 2hz

[warm scarab]

yes

and you also cant hear that

[verbal fog]

2hz is a bad example but like 10 for sure

probably

i gotta test that next time im home

[zenith pawn]

idk if i would call it hearing because arent you just feeling the movement at that point

[warm scarab]

the volume at which you perceive 2hz is when its at a point where it can break things

[verbal fog]

yeah but i think it counts

[warm scarab]

10hz also

its not as destructive but yeah

[verbal fog]

hmm

[warm scarab]

afaik at least

you cannot produce 20hz with most amplifiers or dacs out there

and you also need an infrasub for it which I don't think anyone sells so you have to custom order or make one

[verbal fog]

i dunno frequencies are evil but if i go on the szynalski website and run it down from 40hz and down i can perceive it the whole way through

[warm scarab]

difference between 40hz and 10hz is a lot

[verbal fog]

yeah

[warm scarab]

difference between 18000hz and 19000hz is way less

[zenith pawn]

how loud did you make it to perceive that 💀

[verbal fog]

although at 1 hz i do more hear just static that kinda goes with 1hz

[zenith pawn]

oh

[warm scarab]

the lowest an average person can hear is 20hz

[zenith pawn]

isnt that just distortion youre hearing then

[warm scarab]

maybe slightly below

[verbal fog]

well its static from my amp i usually run it on higher volume settings so it does that

the driver is moving though

[zenith pawn]

i think youre probably just hearing distortion rather than the actual 2 hz signal

[verbal fog]

at 4 hz is when i start to hear driver noise of some form

[zenith pawn]

if you could hear it im pretty sure it should just sound like pure sub

[warm scarab]

there are harmonics

there are reasons why a headphone driver would move on a frequency it cant produce

when you give it power

not normally

[verbal fog]

i mean it can technically produce it

[warm scarab]

likely not 4hz

[zenith pawn]

is it producing the 2hz signal or just the harmonic distortions in the presence of a 2hz input

[verbal fog]

also a 15hz signal definitely does like an amount

[warm scarab]

yeah might be able to

its debatable if thats 15hz or not though

[verbal fog]

theres still some driver noise but the pressure is definitely there doing its uh stuff

[verbal fog]

wdym

[zenith pawn]

i think i consider that different

feeling the pressure vs actually hearing the sub noise

[warm scarab]

might just be distorting the driver trying to produce that frequency

[verbal fog]

i dunno i get the feeling of two drivers and them going at 15hz on my head

[warm scarab]

provided your amplifier and dac isn't rated for 15hz

as literally almost no consumer amps and dacs are rated for it

[verbal fog]

i dunno i havent checked my amp specs i dont think

this is the alleged spec

grr my dac says its 20hz to 20khz but then its +/- 0.1db

and then my headphones say 5hz to 30khz but grr they dont have a +/- rating

[warm scarab]

it says it can respond to 5hz

not at which volume

[verbal fog]

it is a little evil uh they dont have any +/- ratings anywhere but also the freq response graph is pretty not flat

also volume is a fair point

i dunno though they do good still and they are probably getting more volume than normal with eq and stuff

[steel escarp]

Susvara was a mistake

its a horrible headphone

the distortion around 1.2kHz and 7kHz is actually painful

[zenith pawn]

what model did you get

[warm scarab]

grey works different

[zenith pawn]

oh wait susvara is a model for some reason when i looked it up i got a bunch of unrelated junk

yeah why is that frequency response so noisy

normally i dont wanna look at graphs but like

woah its $6000??

maybe thats not the thing thats being heard idk

[warm scarab]

its a good headphone

its just that grey is the antichrist of audio

he buys mediocre 150$ cans and tries to eq them for 200 hours while putting his 3k ones aside

[zenith pawn]

thats based

well not for the bank account but for fun

[warm scarab]

he has swapped his opinion about the specific headphone like

at least 20 times

one week he praises it

other week calls it shit

other week he finds another eq profile and worships it

then calls it shit again

sharur made a video dissing sonic getaway and 90% of the video's contents were grey having bipolar disorder

[zenith pawn]

is sharur grey ?

[warm scarab]

no

sharur just made a compilation mostly composed of grey's messages

[zenith pawn]

ALRIGHT NOW WE'RE AT WAR

/s

it seems like this sharur guy also changes opinions a lot

[lean grove]

It's really not. Everyone I've known who's bought it has had problems with it

[warm scarab]

ok and everyone I know that has it likes it

aside from grey

if its anything remotely similar to he1000 then id also love it

[lean grove]

Fundamentally I would love $3000 more.

[warm scarab]

susvara goes for 3k now?

[lean grove]

Or 4300

Idk. I know the $6k sticker price is for suckers

[warm scarab]

yeah

it went for like 4k if you asked around

[steel escarp]

I got it for 3.5k basically new

I am selling Susvara and getting he1000 unveiled

Which I actually spent 30 mins in the showroom with. Instead of 3 minutes.

[steel escarp]

The longer you spend with a headphone, the less biased you become over time towards it.

Well unless you get brainwashed, like hd800s owners

[elder thistle]

my first impressions of the mc450 were kinda bad

took at least an hour to get a feel for it

and eq showed a lot

at this point I can enjoy them a lot even without eq

[lean grove]

Smh my head grey. You just haven't paired it with the right amp

[steel escarp]

Yeahhhh right

[night plume]

Any thoughts on these? https://www.amazon.com/EarFun-Headphones-Multipoint-Connection-Waterproof/dp/B0DRCH8GLP

Hmm at the moment these are the 2 on my list

[livid ruin]

how are fiio ft1’s standing now?

[livid ruin]

i thimk he’s trolling

[warm scarab]

who? grey or sharur

[livid ruin]

both

sharur is ragebaiting audio people and gray is trolling sharur

or who knows how it is really, maybe sharur is misinterpreting sarcasm

[warm scarab]

grey isnt trolling

but sharur is

that is what sharur normally does

[livid ruin]

oh

then why does sharur respond to him so often

or why grey changes his takes

well, anyways how’s the ft1 rn is it still good aside from that screw issue? (for the price)

[lean grove]

Grey is the real deal.

[night plume]

The Earfun Open Jump currently have a 20% discount going on with them as well so that makes the split between them even wider

[serene iris]

I think linis wold track me down and kill me if I showed my speekers

[livid ruin]

welp

[lean grove]

Linus is not an audio snob. Please do not lump him in with us.

[elder thistle]

wym

[livid ruin]

is it still good as a budget headphone iyo

?

[elder thistle]

as always depends on use cases, content being played, preferences

is it of any relevance? I guess

[livid ruin]

for average user that wants closed back headphones under $150 or $200

[elder thistle]

there's no average preference

no do not quote the harman study

personally they are not my thing, and common reviews rave about them baselessly since they aren't usually compared to other headphones, especially in a non-tone front

they aren't resolving enough, don't pick up enough quiet details, and don't image clearly enough to be a serious competitor amongst competitive fps headphones

it feels like the bass is only authoritative because of it's tone, and honestly isn't as textured or tight as it's touted to be

they don't have the dynamics needed for mixing work to be done well through them

in conclusion I'd pay maybe $110

they do have some airyness similar to dt770, and a touch of soundstage

[serene iris]

Bro I got like 20 speakers behind my monitor

[lean grove]

Congratulations

[polar isle]

reccs for budget gaming headphones/earphones with mic?

[steel escarp]

where is this video btw, DM it to me

[steel escarp]

I don't change my takes after having owned something for 3 weeks

[warm scarab]

this is cap grey

you know it

[steel escarp]

nah its real

[warm scarab]

the video was about 400se I think

[steel escarp]

oh lmao

yeah I went straight into EQ with that headphone

400se is a beginner bait headphone tho, you gotta agree on that one

idk why the heck im still wearing susvara while the midrange is genuenly fatuiging to listen to

[warm scarab]

i wouldn't ask more for 100$

[steel escarp]

Klaus, you gotta try the fiio ft1 pro btw

[warm scarab]

i dont think there is anywhere I can demo it

[steel escarp]

I tried it on the chain that I daily my he1000 stealth on

I kinda felt dumb getting he1000 stealth for 1600

because it was so close

like which planar even has a bass lift like this

except OG he1000

maybe I should just sell it all and get ft1 pro tbh

[night plume]

At lthis point I will likely picup the cheaper discounted set as I have other things I need to purchase as well

[warm scarab]

any that I take 4 seconds to eq

[warm scarab]

why one of these two

I swear this guy is an operator for these no name ali imported tws resellers

[night plume]

Found one as a recommendation on reddit for starters

Or at least a different much older no longer for sale model from the same oem

Other set was listed on cnet for under $100 lol but yeah was actually not for less than $100

@warm scarab

[warm scarab]

i mean the first mistake was consulting reddit

[night plume]

I had a set that is no longer for sale. They stopped charging so I need a replacement open ear set and yeah not been able to find any lists for open back just standard linear tws earbuds like Sony Samsung or Apple

So yeah unless you have some actual recommendations or know where I can find some actual info about open ear buds and not just the standard ones

I kinda have to rely on what I can find

[warm scarab]

open ear buds?

[night plume]

Yeah

[warm scarab]

wtf is an open earbud

openback?

like the weird audeze iems

https://headphones.com/cdn/shop/articles/42408393_IMG_3364_381cd336-fec9-481d-9a05-134eeb1cc378.jpg?v=1707863341&width=1100

[night plume]

Need to be able to hear the world around me when I am out walking the streets for example

Buds without the tips that go in the ears

[warm scarab]

so earbuds

the silicone tip ones are called iems

yeah idk why you would want earbuds

use transparency mode if you want, get bone conduction stuff if you really need it

earbuds are a shit technology

[buoyant vale]

there are sony linkbuds

or good old fashioned just put one ear in

[night plume]

https://images.app.goo.gl/bNXM6Dmqm8CeeAwz9

Something like these

No in ear design they hook on your ears instead

https://a.co/d/7gcqXQH set i had before

I don't want a set that go into my ears

[night plume]

Most earbuds have the rubber tips which I do NOT want

[warm scarab]

those are called iems

as far as using the correct terminology goes

and the ones without tips are called straight up earbuds

most people don't use the correct wording for it but now you know

same goes for headsets and headphones

a headset is a set of headphones with a microphone for example

headphones don't necessarily have a mic

[night plume]

Most earbuds are IEM style then and you have to speciofy open ear if you don't want the rubber tips

AKA 95% of TWS Earbuds for example are rubber tipped and yeah

Which is why that is most of the info out there on google and youtube and thus trying to find info about the other 5% that are "open" is annoying

Which is why I have to specify open earbuds

[night plume]

I don't care for these personally and they are pretty much the "standard" which is the issue

[warm scarab]

im telling you man

that isn't an earbud

its an iem

because most consumers don't use the term correctly doesn't invalidate its meaning

at least not in circles where people are informed

[night plume]

Tell that to the OEMS who lable these as standard earbuds which is the issue

Hence having to use the term "open" earbuds

[night plume]

Which is why its near impossible to sort through the crap on google and youtube to find info about the small "open" earbuds market isntead of your "standard" earbuds that may or may not have the rubber tips

Which is why I am looking for sub $100 recommendations for "open" earbuds

[warm scarab]

yeah because every retailer names their products appropriately right

[night plume]

Which is why I am on here looking for recommendations

[polar isle]

reccs for budget gaming headphones/earphones with mic?

[warm scarab]

define budget

[polar isle]

$30

[night plume]

Wouldn't that be the hyper X cloud? or is that more exspnesive?

[warm scarab]

i cant even name a headphone that costs 30$

get a second hand cloud 2

[polar isle]

$40

[warm scarab]

replace the earpads

@buoyant vale those aren't called headphones

fuck you

[polar isle]

https://tenor.com/view/brooo-political-economic-state-of-the-world-jaden-smith-can-we-talk-about-the-political-and-economic-state-of-the-world-bro-gif-10432812979873555164

[warm scarab]

grab cloud 2

[night plume]

Cloud mini an d cloud stinger 2 are going for that much

[warm scarab]

check how much they cost or you can get them for 2nd hand

i dont advise cloud stinger because of how much worse it is than the cloud 2

its a siginificant downgrade, better off saving 10-20$ more

get it second hand and replace the earpads if you want

[night plume]

https://hyperx.com/collections/gaming-headsets/products/hyperx-cloud-gaming-headset?variant=45937156096157Normal Cloud's are $40 currently

33% off on the website and going for $39.99

[polar isle]

oh

thanks

[night plume]

$40 on Amazon as well if you want to go that route https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-A3RL9AA-Cloud-Blue/dp/B0DF9S9JCW

[warm scarab]

I can't recommend the cloud because I don't know how it performs

there isn't any information on it which recommends its a new headphone

and the fact that its already on a 33% sale is a bad indicator

seriously wtf is this headset

zero info on it online

[night plume]

Pretty sure they were the goto back in the day

[warm scarab]

there was cloud core

cloud alpha

and cloud 2

nothing called just cloud

[night plume]

AKA mid to late 2010s

[warm scarab]

also cloud stinger

this is just cloud

got 1 reviews even on hyperx's own site

[night plume]

MIGHT be called "CLoud Blue" at least that is what Amazon is showing

Unless I am thinking of the "Cloud X" being the goto?

[polar isle]

i found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQPP3ciRPVQ

sounds kinda shit

[night plume]

https://youtu.be/i0PQuRbPCiI found this from 5 years ago

[polar isle]

lool

[warm scarab]

id like actual data instead of some dude who uses dubstep intros to review 30$ headphones

[night plume]

Does mine help?

[warm scarab]

no

it has zero frequency response graph

the headphone is so cheap no one has bothered to measure it

"i would like it if it had more oomph to it"

yeah very significant info

fr

[zenith pawn]

this is based

dubstep intro to review $30 headphones :gigachad:

[zenith pawn]

the style field on amazon is insightful

i am so confused what i am even looking at

well it has good reviews on bestbuy, but that's people reviewing it as a gaming headset so take it with a grain of salt

it's hyprx cloud for ps4, i think thats the official name

super old

even searching that though i dont get any more info

[molten lotus]

idk what to get for my next headset, preferably under $200 with good bass, can either be wireless with dongle or wired.
not one of those shitty gaming ones

any help would be appreciated

i would use my airpods but damn, that BT delay is insane

[zenith pawn]

in-ears or over-ears? iems you can often get much better for lower price

[elder thistle]

that just means the reviews haven't been contaminated yet

we get to hear about people's perceptions, maybe even outside of frequency response

[zenith pawn]

there's like no reviews as well though

[slate patrol]

mic recommendation under 30usd

[slate patrol]

they are good i have them
but with time the audio slowly fades

and the wire quality aint that great

[slate patrol]

something i can use while gaming

[warm scarab]

its a generic dynamic oem from china or wherever

you just open room for affiliate link scammers for a headphone with practically no chance of being unique

[dull trout]

would you be open for IEM's?

if yes, you can get a FiiO JH3 + JCally JM80e dac's + JCally JC16 cable (with MIC)

you'll have extra and have very nice experience

*this is me assuming you are on apple with type c's port

[dull trout]

(Maybe JM20Max too but iirc this doesnt have mic support)

[warm scarab]

fiio ft1 + microphone

[molten lotus]

Yes I’d actually prefer them

Thanks for the options guys

I’m using for my pc

[zenith pawn]

just got the spinfit w1's and am putting them on my 7hz zero:2

first thought is these are not particularly comfortable either but the MS size may be a bit too big for me

i tried to measure the existing tip with a ruler but maybe it wasnt a perfect comparison

[haughty girder]

yeah that's what happened to me

but it's close enough for me so I kept em

[zenith pawn]

the seal is very strong and gives much more noise isolation

even more than the tips that came with my truthear zero:red

the tips feel kinda sticky which sounds like its intentional but i am not used to it

[zenith pawn]

its really confusing actually

it only isolates the lower pitched sounds

its like transparency mode on airpods pro where it kinda has this weird airiness to the higher pitched components of sounds

[winter furnace]

does anyone have a wireless headset recommendation for under $150 mostly for gaming

[slate patrol]

if i am buying a mic

is there anything

i should download or use

to make it better

or use it properly

[warm scarab]

you can use a noise gate to mitigate noise better than how discord does it

aside from that no

you can always eq it but shouldn't specifically need to

[plush grail]

I've been looking to work with multiple analog audio tracks, getting a game, a vc, multiple mics, background music and the sort analogue to mix analogue and also feed back multiple signals for a stream and podcast purpose

What is yalls opinion on a behringer umc1820 for input output to pc

The other thing I was looking at was a soundcraft signature 12 mrk

[tawny badge]

It depends on what mic you have because a lot of USB mics have their own companion software. Generally, though, you need a noise gate and a compressor, and then an EQ if you don't like how it makes your voice sound.

Looking for replacement pads for my Sundara but shipping costs basically murder any reason I might want to get the Palipads. Any alternatives you guys can recommend that don't change the headphones' characteristics too much?

[molten wasp]

Soundcore liberty 4 NC are worth buying?
Mostly for workout and just to work and to hear music while working.
On sale right now.

[slate patrol]

Fifine a6t

[warm scarab]

there isn't a single click solution to making your mic better

for starters use better mic technique

[slate patrol]

What's that

[warm scarab]

use your mic at the correct distance

with correct gain

[slate patrol]

Oh

[warm scarab]

and correct position

[slate patrol]

I will learn about those

[warm scarab]

use the pickup pattern to your advantage

mitigate plosives

that is mic technique

[slate patrol]

Cause tbh,I have no knowledge about it

[warm scarab]

software will also take time to understand

[slate patrol]

It's my first mic,I just used the headset mic till now

[warm scarab]

so unless you want to sink in real time into understanding how sound works and how you can use the software to make that the way you want it

its better to learn mic technique, and then start learning if you are displeased

[slate patrol]

Fair enough

[warm scarab]

there isn't much of a reason for an end user to use software

aside from like, rtx voice

[slate patrol]

Hmm

[warm scarab]

the automatic background noise removing program

[slate patrol]

Is this a software or mic feature?

[warm scarab]

software

[slate patrol]

Oo

[warm scarab]

but keep in mind every algorithm based background noise removing program will negatively impact audio quality

[slate patrol]

I see

I mean that explains it

There are pros and cons to everything

Anyways

Wrong chat,but how to sleep
._.

[slate patrol]

I have lecture in 5h but I can't sleep

[warm scarab]

drink alcohol

[slate patrol]

I don't drink

[warm scarab]

too bad

[slate patrol]

I am 19

What u expect lol

[warm scarab]

people start drinking at 14 in germany

[slate patrol]

People my age love to drink

I just dont

[warm scarab]

i mean ok

[slate patrol]

I am saving the occasion of drinking

For a particular event

[warm scarab]

the only moment you should not drink in is when you are looking to get drunk

its a bad way of thinking to interpret alcohol as a drink that makes you funny

[slate patrol]

Deep advice

[warm scarab]

but to think of alcohol as an ingridient like salt

it makes whiskey into whiskey instead of funny grape juice

if you like drinking it for the taste and not for the effects then you wont have a problem drinking anytime

[slate patrol]

Hmm

[stone quartz]

It's amazing how small of a distance can make a huge difference to timing

Just putting my subwoofer 5m away makes it sound completely awful and I need to adjust for it in my receiver

[warm scarab]

from what distance to 5m

[winged wind]

Anyone remember the Bose CineMate II home cinema system?
Still using that thing. and plan on using it for a while.
Any idea where to get a replacement remote for it? Can't find it anywhere, my current one is falling apart by the seams.

[winter furnace]

whats the difference between cloud 2 wireless and cloud 2 core wireless? Like what does the core stand for

[lean grove]

Equal rights

[steel escarp]

im hoping the new 150 euro cable I got will make me like Susvara

let me measure the impedance of the stock cable just for fun

0.4 ohms

wth, my 250 ohms dt880 is 238 ohms in reality

he1000 stealth is 27 ohms

hmmm maybe my multimeter is just off

actually, impedance is not the same as resistance

[lean grove]

You're measuring the DC resistance

But also

Planars don't care about impedance all that much

[steel escarp]

tbh, the stock hifiman susvara cable is horrific

3m long, and stiff af

[lean grove]

Yes it's that stupid surgical tubing garbage

Or did they fix that

[steel escarp]

I still have that one

[lean grove]

Throw it in the trash

[white portal]

^^

[night plume]

For those wondering if ended up buying the Shokz OpenFit Airs

[lean grove]

Oh no not those ones!

[buoyant vale]

I heard mossad put explosives in those

[night plume]

Whats wrong with them?

[lean grove]

I use them at work, so I'm just joking. Sound okay but they just have weird design choices

[night plume]

I agree the repairing is out of the norm from what I am use to

Beyond that they seem fine to me so far

[lean grove]

I've had issues with the pogo pins getting dirty and not shutting off the headphones when they're in their case

The capacitive touch buttons are too sensitive and make the headphones unusable with damp long hair

[night plume]

I have a little brush I can use to clean those every now and then just like my previous earbuds

[lean grove]

And you lose access to half your controls if you only put in one headphone at a time.

Like these are just design problems.

Nitpicks.

[night plume]

Meh I tend to juse use my phone/pc/tablet for controls with earbuds

[steel escarp]

not before I have the replacement lol

[lean grove]

I use them while I have gloves on in the lab so it is a problem for me.

[steel escarp]

man, DT880 is nice, when you listen to music mastered on it

you listen to the song first on susvara, then wonder why its shit, then you listen on dt880, then its perfect

[night plume]

I live in Florida and don't wear gloves so I am good there lol

[lean grove]

More power to you

[lean grove]

Alexa, why does a good song sound like shit on my $3000 headphones?

[steel escarp]

3500 EUR

is what I paid

[lean grove]

You're so right bestie 💞✨

[steel escarp]

because the source chain doesn't cost 10k obviously

must not be powering it properly

[lean grove]

How many watts is your amp

[night plume]

Do you use a DAC/AMP with those $3k headphones?

[steel escarp]

3W into 60 ohms

[lean grove]

Yeah you need at least 4 watts into 60 ohms to properly power a susvara.

[steel escarp]

bro, I tried an amp with way more

it literally didn't change the sound

[lean grove]

How many watts did that one have?

[night plume]

I probably should have asked what AMP/DAC do you use with thsoe $3k headphones?

[steel escarp]

7W

into 50 ohms

[lean grove]

Obviously you needed at least 8 watts to properly power the susvara

[steel escarp]

DACs unironically changed the sound of the Susvara more than amps

from what I tried

maybe my amp is already good enough

[night plume]

I assume the Susvara is an older set? Because I am just seeing a $6k+ tag on them

[buoyant vale]

no you need 3kw into a short

[lean grove]

Anything less and you're just soft clipping

[lean grove]

Nah that's them. The margins are huge so dealers can sometimes be talked down to a lower price

[steel escarp]

I got them second hand brand new

some guy with way too much money bought them while on some meds

put them in his closet and forgot about them

[night plume]

Fair enough

[steel escarp]

then he flipped them online

[night plume]

Bought them then just left them sitting around and then went oh yeah I can get money back for these

[steel escarp]

I love my he1000 stealth so much, the instruments pop so well on them

[lean grove]

You know if you can afford paying sticker price for susvara you probably won't miss a few grand

[steel escarp]

Susvara is so boring to listen to in comparison

[lean grove]

I have I think at least $2k in closet headphones right now.

Grey wanna buy my akg k1000

[steel escarp]

nah

[lean grove]

Coward

[steel escarp]

im buying the he1000 unveiled in a few weeks

after I sell susvara

[lean grove]

Can you believe the he1000 has been veiled this entire time

[night plume]

I have a set of Audio Technica ATH-m50x that I bought back in like 2013/2014

[steel escarp]

unveiling probably didn't do jack shit

but he1000 unveiled is the widest sound staging headphone

period

or at least from the list of headphones I have heard

out of the 80+ headphones

I have a list

[lean grove]

I do genuinely think that the low acoustic impedance of the back of the cup is what a lot of people credit to good soundstage.

[steel escarp]

its weird that the headphone is less bright than a lot of the other he1000 series, yet stages wider

[night plume]

Also my FiiO E18 does help to open the soundstage on my ATH-m50x's a tad which is nice

[steel escarp]

I tried DT990 on my Violectric V222

with heavy EQ

it was not even bad

the amount of bass it can produce is crazy, on a good amp

on the Susvara, symbols are not enhanced with brighter treble to pop out

its very smooth

you are just raw dogging the song

like, you actually hear when things are shit because you are not distracted by loud symbols

[night plume]

I have never heard anything near that highend LOL

The best I have heard is my ATH-m50xs honestly LOL

[steel escarp]

if you ever wanna upgrade, look into Fiio FT1 Pro, just 200 euros

[night plume]

I can also tell you right now that my ears are far from the best as I am missing about 30% in my left ear and my high freqs have dropped some as well

[steel escarp]

they go toe to toe with some 1000 euro headphones

[night plume]

Maybe I will take a look once something actually happens to these headphones

There is no more Pleather on the headband on these for example LOL

[steel escarp]

I already convinced my friend to buy them

im awaiting his impressions when he gets it in a few weeks

[night plume]

I am glad I can easily find replacement earpads for these popular headphones

That is all the pleather left

I do need to replace my FiiO E18 tho as it is pretty much shot and the battery is dead and it litterally needs major fiddling with to even get it working via USB

[steel escarp]

holy

[night plume]

They are at least 10+ years old at this point LOL

But they are well worn as can be seen

[steel escarp]

my 10 year old beyerdynamics are still in good condition

[night plume]

Its just the pleather ont he headband that is shot lol

That stuff never lasts long around me for some reason even on funiture like chairs it starts peeling after a couple of years

[steel escarp]

that is what pleather does

or at least, I don't know a single m50x owner who had it for more than 2 years without it starting to disintegrate

[night plume]

Which is partly why I prefer Mesh chairs

[steel escarp]

mesh is more breathable too

[night plume]

Yeah there is a BOOMING headband market for the M50X's LOL

In the south you sort of require breathable lol

[steel escarp]

velour would be pretty bad

man tbh

if it was hot every day, I'd just go for IEMs

[night plume]

I have a set of standard earbuds now

[steel escarp]

my headphones

[night plume]

nice

[livid ruin]

magnet

[steel escarp]

@lean grove susvara has its polarity reversed

lol

Sharur let me demo a few songs blind and I discovered it through him

He had golden measure his susvara, apparently his susvara was also reversed

it sounds so much better now

[lean grove]

A buddy went to a hifiman booth at canjam and their display susvara had that too

[steel escarp]

the snare hits finally sound right lol

crazy

[lean grove]

Six thousand dollars MSRP

[steel escarp]

time to put a new 4 pin xlr on the susvara cable

I got some lying around

[night plume]

Anyone know of a plugin for proper bluetooth controls for Winamp? That has always been the lacking feature for me with the software after all these years

[zenith pawn]

like one ear is reverse of the other????!?

[steel escarp]

both

[night plume]

Ok I just ended up installing WACUP 32bit so I can use a few plugins that are MIA from Winamp such as opus support and the ability to start off where the music was when the program closed

I did have to disable a setting in the menu tho to get it working

https://getwacup.com/ I am going to assume its based on the "open source" code they put out for winamp

It also looks like they tried to wipe the code from github after a few months likely becuase of the issues they kept finding themselves in such as the adobe stuff another don't even get my started on the "license" they tried to bloody use for it

Now that I look those MIGHT be part of the new app to begin with lol

[verbal fog]

grr i hate being amp limited,,

when my vu meters get maxxed out i get distortion and its evil but i cant afford a better amp with vu meters

but grr more power would be so cool,,

[warm scarab]

just add vu meters to an amp

[steel escarp]

cables arrived

[lean grove]

Came with a new nest for your birds too

[verbal fog]

yeah but theyre expensive or something and also they wont look as nice too

BUT i think im just gonna save and get some crazy shit like a mcintosh or somethin i dunno and then ill live happily ever after :3

[warm scarab]

I meant like, add one as a separate unit

grab some wood, grab some speaker taps and vu meters

wire them up and put them together into a small chasis

and you have a vu meter unit

vu meters are typically known to add distortion though, they look nice but cant say they work well

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Ideal_Buffers.svg/200px-Ideal_Buffers.svg.png

you could build something like this to prevent the distortion apparently

[tepid flare]

https://youtu.be/ZTpp1rfvZvs?si=7DD3X1kJQ0yGLbTM

[idle moth]

okay so i have like a budget equivalent of

~$520 dollars

also known as 2000 polish coins

i really want to get a good audio equipment (headphones + speakers + subwoofer) for music production

but the budget's pretty limited

i don't except to get studio quality stuff but having something that would work in the long run would be great

[lean grove]

The budget is tight but doable. JBL lsr305mkii would be good to get. That might be most of your budget, in the US they're around $300 a pair but since you're in the EU you might be able to find a good deal. Thomann has good deals sometimes.

You might also be able to find a pair of Sennheiser hd6xx/hd600/hd650 on the used market

Dt880 are also worth looking at. Will probably be cheaper than the Sennheisers

[idle moth]

I'll try looking for used

cuz that might be a steal actually

[lean grove]

Yeah these are all relatively common

And European companies

[warm scarab]

you can get studio quality honestly

if you want speakers it will be more about your room and calibration

if you want headphones you don't really need something insane

jbl 305 like nils said is a good option for mixing but it boils down to the room

I would not recommend any soul to buy a 6** headphone for mixing that is an atrocious idea

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-eating-wriogifs-gif-16756312781247276485

[idle moth]

what's 6**

lmao

[warm scarab]

6 something something headphones

6xx

600

650

660

[idle moth]

as in, prixe?

price

[warm scarab]

no

openbacks are not an accurate representation of what 99% of the listeners will hear

terrible option for mixing

[idle moth]

yeah

[warm scarab]

not to mention hd650 isn't that neutral to begin with

issues with treble and sub bass

[lean grove]

Klaus just straight up spitting misinformation

[warm scarab]

sub bass issue isn't a big deal

but its not something id advise over akg k361 as far as mixing goes

[warm scarab]

its treble is very wacky as far as neutral headphones go

it doesn't sound bad but it doesn't mean there aren't headphones which do that job better

namely akg k361

and k371

better for monitoring overall

[idle moth]

things I'd need is

[warm scarab]

and they are closed back

[idle moth]

line out for speakers

[lean grove]

361/371 probably will fit in the budget better

[warm scarab]

you have a computer

its fine

you don't need one

[lean grove]

And yeah closed backs have the benefit of isolation.

[idle moth]

i mean like

RCA

[warm scarab]

yes

its analog it doesn't matter

[lean grove]

So aside from Klaus being stupid and wrong I agree

[warm scarab]

get a 3.5 to rca splitter

its line out

[idle moth]

oh ok

[warm scarab]

I changed my opinion on the subject actually

since nils agrees with me it cant be true

you should buy a 400$ dac

[idle moth]

I'd also would get a turntable for records etc

[warm scarab]

why

honestly don't

expensive hobby

[idle moth]

listen

[lean grove]

Turntable goes to line-in on PC.

[warm scarab]

look

[lean grove]

And pass it through to the speakers

[warm scarab]

im not opposed to turntables as a hobby

but if you go in with a budget that is low

you will just hurt yourself

and your records

[idle moth]

i mean dor future

*for future

[warm scarab]

sure

id say you will be well set with a stylus that is 200-300$

the turntable itself doesn't really matter

as long as it has a switchable cartridge

and has a phono preamp built in

otherwise you'll need to get a phono preamp

and if it has an adjustable counterweight

under those conditions any turntable you think looks nice will do

[warm scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732489308036137003/1347306245627052116/Gj7f0njXAAAMhti.png?ex=67cb5838&is=67ca06b8&hm=530ef9d0d573eb61cdada1ace9a01c450b7c41de5bcf7ace66372f1273cd8120&

[idle moth]

oh yea

a lot of the cheaper ones have them

tbh now i see i'm

rather uninformed

like a lot

[warm scarab]

if you want to grug it out and get something that works you can do that but like

[idle moth]

about time to learn tho, in order to get better

[warm scarab]

turntables can get very deep if you want them to

there are different arm masses

different cartridges that can host different styluses

styluses that are different in engineering

[idle moth]

ignoring the turntable aspect for now, do i really need an amp? for the headphones and speakers

[warm scarab]

your speakers are actives so they have an amp inside of them

[warm scarab]

and I don't think you are at a point where you'd need an amp for headphones

[idle moth]

note, i have like the cheapest h410 asrock motherboard

[warm scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732489308036137003/1347208994468532235/just-some-rare-vances-v0-khl0fxdiq0ne1.webp?ex=67cafda6&is=67c9ac26&hm=ad6c8323c6ddfbf6e12a6031aaaa8591d38d1705fdaeaf680d041973e9dfcd9f&

[lean grove]

Noise might be an issue but that can be fixed with a $20 dongle

[warm scarab]

what nils said

[lean grove]

Oh dear

[warm scarab]

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-CX31993-Headphone-SNR128dB-Windows10/dp/B099NBWB7L

this is a good stand in for an amp/dac

you can get some good improvements from an amplifier but it would be very stupid to invest into one while your headphones are like 200$ max

even then it offers minor benefits compared to buying a better headphone provided you have a headphone that straight up works really poorly with your current amplifier's lack of power

[idle moth]

oh

i just learned my pc's sound card is

apparently bad

Realtek ALC 897

[warm scarab]

i dont know if its good or not but you can buy the dongle above

or get an apple usb c to 3.5 adapter

costs 9$

[idle moth]

oh right

my motherboard/case doesn't have a usb-c tho

[haughty girder]

ain't it lucky that the dongle comes with the adapter

[idle moth]

oh

that's pretty good

[lean grove]

God's plan

[hearty pilot]

Does anybody have some good IEMs for gaming?

surround sound preferred ;)

budget is around 60-80 EUROS!!

i was thinking about the truthear x crinacle zero: red

[steel escarp]

@lean grove literally all my problems with susvara are gone now that I fixed the polarity lol

I resoldered my dac/amp interconnect to have inverted polarity

double invert = normal

[zenith pawn]

why do you need to invert it at all

is just one side inverted

[lean grove]

Because his $6000 MSRP headphones arrived broken

[zenith pawn]

yeah but it looked like inverting both ears lmao

because inverting both ears wouldnt do anything

[warm scarab]

why the fuck does polarity matter

there is so much research out there that says people are literally unable to tell polarity without comparing it back and forth

[zenith pawn]

its only detectable if one ear is inverse the other

[haughty girder]

Wake up Truthear Blue 2 dropped

same price as the reds

but has smaller nozzle

and more bass but also a bigger bass tuck

[steel escarp]

No both sides are inverted

[steel escarp]

I could literally tell every single time consistently with a blind test

I sent a blind test into a server and literally everyone got it right

[zenith pawn]

probably something else interfering causing it to be different

What does it even mean to be inverted, how's that a reference frame, who says its not 70 degrees shifted for example

What if the recording is inverted

[steel escarp]

I had two audio samples. One normal, the other inverted. Nothing else different.

[steel escarp]

I'm talking about an absolute phase inversion

[warm scarab]

i think your test is flawed

[lean grove]

I think Dumbo found his magic feather

[warm scarab]

phase inversion (he swapped l/r)

[hearty pilot]

let me check them rq 🙏

Hmm, seems nice!

but like. can somebody tell me what are the best IEMs for gaming, like, surround sound etc!

[lean grove]

I thought it was just one channel. If both sides are in-phase it won't matter.

[unique wind]

absolute polarity is audible

this has been proven with 99.9% confidence in blind testing

[unique wind]

zomg new crinphones

i might cop them because i haven’t bought anything audio related in a long time and im bored

my last audio purchase was my novas back in november 2023

[marble lynx]

I'm looking for some advice
I'm thinking about buying a set of bone-conducting earphones, but I'm not sure which, or if they're a good fit for me.
I lean a lot towards bass-heavy music (techno, metal,...). I also like to swim, so if there are watertight variants out there, that's a big plus. I'm mainly looking for them because they don't hinder my awareness when running in the city's center or biking and such

[lean grove]

If you want bass, you're kinda outta luck. Bone conduction and even the open-air earphones don't do bass all that well.

You can probably find a nearby store and see if they have any display models. Bestbuy has them sometimes.

[white portal]

you're not gonna get much bass because there's not a seal but I've heard great things about https://shokz.com/pages/openrun

[marble lynx]

I'm Belgian so no bestbuys around 😅
I haven't found any display models anywhere else

[lean grove]

Rip. Well, I would recommend you take a look at the koss ksc75.

It is very open so you can be very aware of your surroundings, but not very waterproof. It costs a fraction of what the decent bone conduction headphones cost while sounding better.

It's wired as well, but if you can make it work and tuck the wire into your shirt and use a headphone adapter it's genuinely a really good option.

Otherwise I use shokz openfits

They're probably one of the better brands to buy something from. So just see what they have that fits your needs.

[white portal]

these are my recommendations to basically everyone. they're not uber expensive but sound really decent and are completely waterproof.

then again i haven't used a pair in a few years so maybe they changed something, you never know

this is not financial advice

[warm scarab]

https://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_abspolarity.php

@unique wind

@steel escarp

go use an actual test

actual clowns

you can obviously tell inverse polarity in ABX tests because the phase is literally unmatching

the correct way to judge these is to start from the beginning of each track

of start listening from points that are not where you actively left off

[unique wind]

i will not debate this with you because it's already been proven to be audible with 99.9% confidence and it's a dumb argument

[warm scarab]

"proven"

[unique wind]

very easily fixable and wouldnt stop me from buying a headphone

[warm scarab]

lol & lmao

[unique wind]

you can just flip it in software

[warm scarab]

phase mismatching caused by back and forth swapping in abx is unrelated to phase inversion

its literally a regular sound engineering challenge that happens when you stitch together any 2 sounds

[unique wind]

klaus you want the truthear x crinacle zero 2 blues so bad

[warm scarab]

i dont want to spend money on headphones anymore

i have decided being an audiophile is a worthless hobby unless you have like a 1000$ disposable budget each month

[lean grove]

🫵😹 poor

[unique wind]

lul

the audiophile purchase rabbithole is definitely cancer

specifically with source gear, and companies releasing 9 million headphones that are barely different from one another

[warm scarab]

"being an audiophile is so much fun"

the hobby:

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[unique wind]

spending money shouldnt be a hobby

[warm scarab]

this

[unique wind]

i just got into audio to find gear that doesnt suck

[warm scarab]

if it was diy shit or building a room for speakers

[white portal]

tell that to literally every hobby

[warm scarab]

maybe yeah sure

headphones is literally not a hobby

[lean grove]

Klaus forgot that youre supposed to be listening to music you enjoy

[white portal]

this. this. this. this.

[warm scarab]

i think you just have a really bad interpretation of hobbies

[lean grove]

Not sine sweeps and abx tests

[white portal]

twas a joke

[warm scarab]

what is enjoying

[white portal]

[unique wind]

the difference is that there is no audible difference between source gear that is good enough, so youre quite literally just spending money for no reason

[white portal]

yep. point of diminishing returns.

[warm scarab]

I disagree with michael and even then I think being an audiophile is a shit hobby

[white portal]

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/LB0q3pKdBq4

[unique wind]

real

ive been content with my truthear iems and airpods pro 2 for a while and i just listen to music

i stopped thinking about graphs

[white portal]

for me being an audiophile is just listening to music that i love for every miniscule detail in the mix that I can pick out and discover when listening from different sources

[unique wind]

the best thing to do is to stop watching audio youtubers tbh

[white portal]

THIS

[unique wind]

that goes for most hobbies

[white portal]

ye

[warm scarab]

you can get that from 150$ into the hobby

its barely scratching the surface

[unique wind]

watch audio youtubers -> want to spend money on audio

[warm scarab]

i disagree ngl

bouldering for example

[white portal]

right. but then you watch a video and spend a shit ton

[unique wind]

well yeah because your laziness outweighs your interest

[warm scarab]

I bouldered

thats cap

I did up to v5

now I have to get a wrist surgery

[unique wind]

did you rip the boulders off the wall with your mass

[white portal]

i don't spend money on audio gear because i think it will make me cooler or more of an audiphile. i do it because i want to experience listening through a new lens, per say

[warm scarab]

I am pretty light

[white portal]

no, you do it with your ass

[unique wind]

i picture you looking like zeos in my head

[warm scarab]

it was really fun to solve a lot of problems because of having a stupidly good ability of self lifting

[unique wind]

perhaps with longer hair

[warm scarab]

i literally did pull ups on most places and it lead me up to v5

then I had to get actually intelligent

[white portal]

lmao

[warm scarab]

nah i got pretty good genetics when it comes to weight

[unique wind]

anyway yeah im probly gonna cop the new crinphones because i havent made an audio purchase since 2023 and im bored

[warm scarab]

i got the space travels last

very good purchase

[white portal]

real. i bought some K712s a few months ago so i'm good for a few more months haha

[warm scarab]

where did you find out about the k712

[white portal]

https://tenor.com/view/dankpods-pkcell-gif-20217080

[warm scarab]

oh

[white portal]

i knew about AKG before tho

just not specifically the k712

i had a pair of k240s at one point

i'm also eyeing some austrian audio stuff

[unique wind]

how are the $30 TWS serving you?

great for the price?

[warm scarab]

there is this lack of punch in this bass im not sure how to describe and it falls off after like what 17khz

those aside its great

[white portal]

oh yeah i frogot i was actually in here to ask a question. i'm in need of some IEMs for my DJ gigs and was wondering what y'all have experience with/recommend?

[unique wind]

this amber case option for them is sexy

[warm scarab]

i modded the sbc codec with some virus i found on the internet to get it to go up to 19khz

no idea how it works

[white portal]

that looks like bourbon and i'm here for it

[warm scarab]

and i coped with poweramp eq for the bass

pretty good rn

[unique wind]

🙏

[white portal]

how the hell

[warm scarab]

ive no idea apparently there is some root file in android you can modify to change the samplerate of sbc

[white portal]

damn

makes me want to buy the nothing 3a pro even more

i'm kinda sick of ios

[warm scarab]

https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-module-sbc-xq-bluetooth-audio-codec-and-drc-deactivator-android-10.4332799/

you need your phone to be rooted for it to work so

[white portal]

oh damn

[warm scarab]

no more warranty

[white portal]

yeah nah fam

respect for doing that but i'm not haha

[warm scarab]

i mean no reason not to do it after 2 years

warranty is out by then

[white portal]

oh fair

yeah

if it's already gone then fuck it

[hearty pilot]

Does anybody have surround sound iems (for gaming) I should get? (Under 80 bucks)
Please @ me or mention me when you have an answer!

[livid ruin]

https://youtu.be/_bV1sfQQkZY? carrot.

[white portal]

https://tenor.com/view/millie-bobby-brown-carrot-dirtier-gif-3071259538355850936

[warm scarab]

this doesnt exist

[supple robin]

i love these

[haughty girder]

it basically doesn't matter - any decent pair of iems will do for gaming

[zenith pawn]

did anyone see the new truthear x crinacle zero blue:2

what a mouthful

i wonder if its any good

i love the reds' openness but the bass is sometimes a tiny bit low

[tawdry gale]

its basically harman ie

[zenith pawn]

let me look it up

its already on graph.hangout.audio, nice

i should not just look at the graph but its all i have

cant find really any reviews

[haughty girder]

wow no way

it launched last night lmao

[zenith pawn]

guess thats why i saw no reviews searching last night

[spark hazel]

can someone help me pick out a headset. Rn I have the arctis one steelseries and my mic is f cked up. Do I buy a new mic or just buy. a new headset. Budget is £70 from curry (I got a voucher)

[minor patio]

What sound bar with sub would y'all recommend for around $200ish

[elder thistle]

it seemed genius for a moment, but he was only using rca which ruined it

there is a greater frontier

consider the following:

[elder thistle]

are you looking for precise direction of sounds, strong/obvious general direction of sounds, or just spaciousness

[tough ridge]

Hello everyone I have an amplifier SANSUI AU-X501 1987-90 made in Japan fully working I have it for two years now I never use it worth anything???

[hearty pilot]

Direction of sounds and quality,
Earhook is preferred lmao

Was thinking about the blue 2s

[elder thistle]

that doesn't really answer either of these

for example, the difference between precise directions of sound vs strong/obvious directions of sound will make the truthear zero red a strong contender or a strong avoid

and if the zero blue 2 is similar to the zero red...

quality is also a very nondescriptive and subjective term

build quality is less subjective

resolution and instrument separation quality

timbre quality

simple criteria determine if you will find a headphone worth $5 or $500 with the sound you hear

[wet igloo]

has anyone had the TOZO T20 earbuds?

I tried every way to reset them but they will not

nothing happens the user manual doesnt help

they were like the #1 best selling on amazon

[tawdry gale]

zero blue 2 isnt similar to zero red, its harman ie or basshead

[sleek lily]

Found the graph of my he6 clone/refurb/recreation thing next to original

[livid ruin]

gotta plug it correctly otherwise it’s not hi-fi!

[zenith pawn]

the noise isolation the spinfit w1 give me is weird, it has the same sort of sound profile as my airpods pro 2 with noise cancelling, just without the static noise

[desert salmon]

finally got my 2.1 dialed in

sounds pretty good for 1100 usd all in

i might upgrade to in5's

[stone quartz]

Is this a good deal?

Claims to play down to 18Hz at -3dB

[zenith pawn]

that specific detail of bass extension sounds typical

[stone quartz]

My current subwoofer doesn't even come close to that, but it was also a fraction of the price of that one new

[dull trout]

iem wise there is no actual iem made for gaming except if you consider razer moray "gaming" lol. although if you want accurate technicalities to help with footsteps/game details and etc, there might be some

at this point just find any iem's with great soundstage and separation and it'll game more than fine

[zenith pawn]

yeah i am pretty sure an iem with good imaging would be much better than anything gaming-marketed even for gaming exclusively

[winter furnace]

any idea why valorant messes up my audio and reduces the audio like %70 when i enter a game

[elder thistle]

that doesn't change anything

hm that's a pretty big impedance change though

when are they going to start overloading apple dongles or cx31993

[void reef]

was told to come here about this

got a very specific question but does anyone know a company that makes a really high quality 3mm male to male cable length ~1-1.5m

the plugs need to be able to withstand a lot of repeated bending force without losing connection/signal

[modern barn]

https://headphones.com/blogs/reviews/truthear-zero-blue-2-upgrade-path-from-the-ultra-budget

[verbal fog]

i think z reviews has some super fancy cable company that makes super fancy cables and they look really fancy but theyre also super expensive but maybe they fit your needs

[haughty girder]

It's pretty close to the reds with a bit more subbass and more bass tuck which I'd argue is actually worse for bassheads

[haughty girder]

any decent 3.5mm will survive repeated plugs and unplugs granted you're not abusing it like hanging weight on the conenctor

[void reef]

its not unplugs and replugs. and basically i need it to withstand hanging weight on the connector

not exactly but same kind of strain

[haughty girder]

3.5mm durability is basically the same across the board

[void reef]

its not the connector its the housing thats broken every time ive used a cable before

the plug wiggles backwards and forwards in its housing and widens it out until it becomes loose and the cable signal becomes worse and worse

[haughty girder]

show a picture?

[warm scarab]

tf

that is some legendary misfortune ive had that happen like once

and it was on some shit ass adapter like maybe 10 years back

[void reef]

its happened within a few weeks for me every time with cables from wide range of places

[haughty girder]

You gotta show what you mean chief

I find that incredibly difficult to believe

I've broken 3.5mm at the poles but never the housing

[void reef]

This is my current cable in the process of breaking. That small black gap between the housing and jack causes it to become loose and connection becomes increasingly worse and have to tape the cable Into 1 orientation just to get full audio signal

[warm scarab]

maybe the housing is just oxidized?

do you live in a high moisture area

[zenith pawn]

hmm the essentially requirement to use the foam tips sounds like almost a dealbreaker on its own to me

[haughty girder]

what the actual balls

these are my main 3 plugs that I've been using for between 2-4 years now

[terse river]

tbf those are some fancy cables bro

[haughty girder]

all of them are thicker because the connectors have housings that are first filled with some sort of epoxy to hold the cables in place then screwed on

[haughty girder]

not really

[terse river]

def when compared to this

[haughty girder]

the right angle one I soldered, the left on in my finger is my stock k361 cable that I plug into this

(that adapter feels super nice tho)

and the one with purple cable is my xinhs cable and costed me... 10 bucks at the time..

[warm scarab]

its all aliexpress bits

[haughty girder]

^^

pretty much ya

[warm scarab]

anyone could "core" a cable if they know how to weave hair

[terse river]

damn im gonna buy myself some of them thangs then

[warm scarab]

99% of amazon cables are ali bits assembled

its a self scam to buy cables

provided you dont need just 1

[haughty girder]

like this is like 6 CAD for 4 plugs that'll last for sure

[warm scarab]

classic 3.5 tips

i got even worse stuff

[haughty girder]

I buy aliexpress cables like openheart and xinhs just cause they have a better parts selection at the same price for myself to build it

[warm scarab]

openheart dont ship to me

the bitches

[haughty girder]

RIP

[warm scarab]

i asked them specifically why

they said its a mistake and they will fix it

i messaged them like 5 times after thst

they ghosted me

[warm scarab]

tbh

if you buy like 10 cables worth of components

you are in green

provided you need 10 cables

[haughty girder]

Ya I have one of these coming in a bit and I wouldn't want to build it myself for a oneoff

[warm scarab]

valid

[haughty girder]

K yeah if you need like 10 cables then buying bulk will definitely make it cheaper

[warm scarab]

especially since its an iem cable

provided you arent a weird guy with 10 iems

those people should actually be in prison

[zenith pawn]

you gotta buy nordost cables bro, they'll totally make your iems sound better bro, make sure to spend at least $5000

[warm scarab]

this is how grey does it

[haughty girder]

I have... 4 with another one coming

but I give all the ones I don't want to others

ie. all but one of my 20 dollar iems

[warm scarab]

why do you do this