audio-tech

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-disbelief-what-huh-gif-15892515

[warm scarab]

bet i could beat that guy in a fight

[molten lotus]

hi guys

should i buy xm4 second hand or wait until xm5 second hand comes down in price

i have until september- december

[elder thistle]

the tone is boomy and synthetic

definitelyhas treble though

these are very resolving for $50 and show a broad but obvious sense of direction minus vertical

also block out a lot of noise

[jade yew]

what iem would my nerds recommend for general use/gaming at my pc. i can use 3.5 jack. it'll go into goxlr

[zenith pawn]

what budget? the 7hz zero:2 are pretty good for the budget range

[jade yew]

100-300 id say

[zenith pawn]

hopefully somebody else has a better idea of the higher end but i use the $55 truthear zero red and theyre also pretty good

[jade yew]

ill take a look at those as well ive only found the ie 200

[jade yew]

mind sending me a link to one you said

[zenith pawn]

https://www.amazon.com/Fanmusic-TRUTHEAR-Crinacle-Zero-Headphone/dp/B0C5QWMGM6

looks like the price went up to $60

thats the one you meant right

[jade yew]

ones i found where 20 and was like yeah seems wrong

[zenith pawn]

wha

was it the 7hz zero:2 because that would be that range

[jade yew]

yeah

how long is the cable 3m or is it longer

[zenith pawn]

its pretty short

idk the exact length, id guess 1m or so

[jade yew]

hmmm def would need longer

[zenith pawn]

1.3m according to rtings

you can definitely buy a different cable t hough

[jade yew]

yeah i would need 3m atleast if i did go with it

[zenith pawn]

i wonder if youll end up needing to buy a longer cable anyways for most iems

its a somewhat standard port i believe

[hasty tundra]

on sale for 15$

I already own crinacle x truthear fanmusic zeros

do i get em?

[pearl fractal]

bro

I'm buying moondrop chu II with type c with mic

i have a

usb 3.1 type c

on my case

will it support ?

[elder thistle]

yes

the kind of data transfer that dac/amp would need is not that high

[paper current]

any decent "budget" microphones for like $100, I've looked at the pd200x and pd400x ($128), not sure if they're worth getting or at the price range of the pd400x would an AT2020 usb be better

[slim mason]

I mean you can grab an mtrack solo, xm8500, cheap boom arm and an xlr cable for like 90 bucks

[paper current]

what would be the weight of that

im getting it shipped from usa to bosnia and im paying $7 / kg

[slim mason]

thomann doesnt ship there?

its a european site

shipping from US is almost always not wise in europe

[paper current]

already have a $51 giftcard on amazon through affiliates that's why I'm interested in buying from usa

[slim mason]

amazon.de

or amazon.it

[paper current]

hmm does gift card balance transfer to those sites

[slim mason]

its amazon....

obviously

[paper current]

yeah I understand that but I'd also have to pay for shipping there which would be way more than just buying from usa and getting it shipped here

[slim mason]

from the US you would get high shipping price AND import fees

[paper current]

also it doesn't transfer

[paper current]

I know that but I'm getting it shipped to a usa address

then to me with a 3rd party company

import only applies if you go over $150 here at least

[slim mason]

I have used a gift card so many times on amazon and ordered from a different amazon address

like I usually use amazon.de but then I see that a product is cheaper if shipped from amazon.co.uk and I can still use it

[slim mason]

thats just weird

[paper current]

ig .com is locked to north america

[slim mason]

well that is dumb

[paper current]

true

[paper current]

someone told me pd400x would be better than pd200x cause if something for the usb connectivity breaks you can always use xlr, no idea how true that is though

even tho they're both usb/xlr

[fervent ermine]

is lct 240 pro a good mic

[sinful niche]

looked at the edifier MR4s this morning, would still be great to have...

[paper current]

likely dont need pd400x cause im just using the mic for discord anyways

debating between fifine k688 and maono pd200x

[slate patrol]

they are really good

[hasty tundra]

you have a pair?

[slate patrol]

any mic budget mic recommendation something under 25usd

[hasty tundra]

get a NEEWER

condenser mic

[slate patrol]

i bought it for my friend

i currently have tangzu wan'er SG

[hasty tundra]

oh okay, what do you think of the tangzu?

[slate patrol]

they are really great

they are not that well with bass but when it comes to vocals

its really good

[hasty tundra]

oh okay

i listen to alot of DNB

lots of wubz

i love wubz

[slate patrol]

oo

[hasty tundra]

but ocassionally alt rock

[slate patrol]

u can try salnotes zero

if u want base

[hasty tundra]

are the BASN triple drivers any good? theyre like 90 bucks

[zenith pawn]

what is wubz

[hasty tundra]

its a sound

thats in alot of drum&bass type music

[zenith pawn]

is it like sub?

[slate patrol]

i am also hearing it first time

[hasty tundra]

listen to overdue by cripplingg

its like 99% wubz

[slate patrol]

ah i see

[hasty tundra]

i love wubz

[slate patrol]

not my type
but i feel its good to keep ur head empty

[hasty tundra]

wubwubwub

it gives 2015/2016 dubstep vibes for me

[slate patrol]

yeah

i was gonna say i used to hear these types before

[hasty tundra]

nostalgic

[slate patrol]

i dont have a type

i just like to hear music

[hasty tundra]

I wish my 599s had better sub bass

[slate patrol]

helps me keep engaged

[warm scarab]

any lavalier mic you can find

[hasty tundra]

some people focus on the beat and some people focus on the lyrics

i focus more on the beat

[slate patrol]

i want something that i dont have to attach to me
i want a mic i an just keep beside me while playing games with my friend

iems mic just dont cut out

[zenith pawn]

ok let me listen to it real quick

[warm scarab]

coil it around your headphones' wire and attach it to the headphones

[slate patrol]

i use iems

[paper current]

i'm using headphones + headset around my neck rn for mic

[warm scarab]

get the iem mic thingy

[slate patrol]

damn

[slate patrol]

my iem have mic but not that great tbh

[warm scarab]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ac5fQj7MQlU/maxresdefault.jpg

this

[slate patrol]

i just like when i sound better while playing

[slate patrol]

i see

[paper current]

[slate patrol]

i might look into it

[hasty tundra]

Ive been considering saving up for a 3 way shelf speaker setup

[warm scarab]

kinera ruyi

and kinera gramr

the names of those

[warm scarab]

why 3 way wtf

[slate patrol]

thanks

[zenith pawn]

which sound am i listening for

is it the main instrument or the bass thing?

[slate patrol]

just beat i guess

[hasty tundra]

two on desk and a sub

[zenith pawn]

i mean which part of it is the wubz

[warm scarab]

thats not a 3 way shelf speaker setup

thats a 2.1 setup

[hasty tundra]

i didnt know the exact term mb

[warm scarab]

you better be sorry

[slate patrol]

lel

[hasty tundra]

yeah okay says the guy with the edgy 14 y/o username

[warm scarab]

yes

your point

[hasty tundra]

sorry i meant 14 y/o

[warm scarab]

want to throw fists

[slate patrol]

tbh i like his username
its cool

[hasty tundra]

that would be a waste of fists to just throw them away

[slate patrol]

pls do
imma bring popcorn

[warm scarab]

whats your xbox online id

[hasty tundra]

how about a lunch date and a knuckle sandwich

[zenith pawn]

is wubz a specific instrument or just something youre describing the entire song as

[hasty tundra]

nah its just a general term for a sound in Dnb

[zenith pawn]

oh

[warm scarab]

its just him articulating the sound that comes from the song with letters

[hasty tundra]

yeah

exactly

like hisss or fwomp

[zenith pawn]

that sound comes from the bass to me

[hasty tundra]

wubz is wubz

[warm scarab]

it is bass largerly yes

[hasty tundra]

yeah usually wubz are pretty bassy

[zenith pawn]

but like

its a specific sound?

[hasty tundra]

wubwubwub

[warm scarab]

listen to skrillex or something he has a lot of wubs

[zenith pawn]

i think i know what you mean

[hasty tundra]

yeah skrillex is the king of wubz

[warm scarab]

does he still make music

[hasty tundra]

i think so

wait yes

he released something recently

its actually really good

[warm scarab]

doubt its something ill like

[hasty tundra]

wait nvmd

[zenith pawn]

me neither but i might listen just to see if i know what you mean

[hasty tundra]

i was thinking of another dnb artist

skrillex hasnt done anything since 23

i was thinking of flux pavillion he still makes new releases

[warm scarab]

just write skrillex in google

play whatever song comes up

[zenith pawn]

i just installed an actual media player with gapless playback and it makes pink floyd 1000x better

[hasty tundra]

bangarang

[zenith pawn]

ok just a sec

[hasty tundra]

what does that mean

i just have peace APO w/peters equalizer

[zenith pawn]

like, in the album they have it so the sound sorta continues between the tracks, so you need a player that will play the next track without any split second of silence

[slate patrol]

u guys really into audio

[hasty tundra]

ohhh

cool

[slate patrol]

i just connect my iems to my monitor using a y-splitter and enjoy hehe

[hasty tundra]

for like listening to whole albums

[warm scarab]

pink floyd tracks are done on vinyl

[hasty tundra]

yeah i dont have the attention span for that

[warm scarab]

so all their musics are 1 long track

they are interconnected gapless normally

[zenith pawn]

thats probably the better experience

[hasty tundra]

isnt that just the same as having no crossfade

[zenith pawn]

i think so

[slate patrol]

yes

[hasty tundra]

oh

but i like crossfade

[zenith pawn]

but, for example with jellyfin web, it buffers for like 0.2 seconds between playing other tracks and theres no crossfade or anything

[slate patrol]

sometime seamless transition to next song is the key

[warm scarab]

yes

[slate patrol]

when u dont even realise and the next song has already started

[hasty tundra]

true

[warm scarab]

you definitely lose on sounds when you make vinyl into digital

then play it back through your own system

[hasty tundra]

for sure

[zenith pawn]

i dont have a record player unfortunately

[hasty tundra]

theres filters for that though that can help add some of it back in

[warm scarab]

good

[zenith pawn]

cd rips are good enough

[warm scarab]

its expensive to get into

[slate patrol]

do u guys download songs and hear them?

[hasty tundra]

i use deezer

[slate patrol]

or use things like spotify and stuff

[warm scarab]

no benefit aside from listening to pink floyd and messing with like 50 styluses that each cost 500$ to get ideal experience™️

[warm scarab]

both

spotify and local tracks

[slate patrol]

hmm

[hasty tundra]

idk if spotify has hifi or not but i use deezer for its lossless

[slate patrol]

spotify doesnt offer lossless quality right

[hasty tundra]

they might now

[warm scarab]

no

[zenith pawn]

no, but spotify is good enough ™️

[slate patrol]

it doesnt

[hasty tundra]

but i know deezer has lossless

[slate patrol]

i have spotify premium

[warm scarab]

lossless is unnecessary

[zenith pawn]

aac is pretty good

[slate patrol]

i use spotify premium

[warm scarab]

i wouldnt pay for it

[hasty tundra]

it can be noticeable in certain situations

but its very very minor

[slate patrol]

i just like spotify cause i have used it for so long
i cant make myself to switch

[warm scarab]

can abx any song and it would take me 15 minutes to tell them apart and cost way more space on my phone

[hasty tundra]

and only in tracks that were made with lossless compatibility in mind

[warm scarab]

thats every song

[slate patrol]

klaus

[zenith pawn]

idk if i can tell aac but i can tell mp3 160 vs lossless pretty reliably

but aac is a huge jump

[slate patrol]

do u use any equalzer with spotify

[warm scarab]

yes

[zenith pawn]

so far i havent been able to notice on aac

[hasty tundra]

yes

[warm scarab]

i use an equalizer for the entire desktop

not specific to spotify

[slate patrol]

oh

[hasty tundra]

same

[warm scarab]

spotify's equalizer kind of sucks

[hasty tundra]

I use the one reccomended by crin and the auto profiles made my him are great

[slate patrol]

i have a laptop setup
and i dont have speaker so idk if i need to

[warm scarab]

i use headphones mostly its not very relevant

can make anything sound better provided it needs eq

[hasty tundra]

speaking of laptop speakers

[slate patrol]

oh

[zenith pawn]

i need to start learning DSP stuff just for fun

[hasty tundra]

the zephyrus G14 has some of the best speakers on a small laptop ive ever heard

[slate patrol]

is there a guide to this equalizer thingy

i wanna try it

[hasty tundra]

like real bass not fake bass

[zenith pawn]

i have a framework laptop and those speakers are actually horrible

[hasty tundra]

womp womp

[zenith pawn]

like 90s laptop kind of horrible

[hasty tundra]

oh no

[slate patrol]

i have a hp pavillion
but i use monitor speaker
they are pretty good

[hasty tundra]

i can actually enjoy music on my G14 like its tolerable for my ears

[zenith pawn]

thats better than most laptops

[hasty tundra]

Especially on simpler tracks like some background lofi or whatever its 100% enjoyable

[slate patrol]

i have this old monitor,u cant even find it on market anymore
i wish it had vesa support

[hasty tundra]

laptop speakers must be an afterthought for most manufacturers XD

[warm scarab]

might be a bit difficult if you are new

but google equalizer apo tutorial

if you have a short attention span google peace eq tutorial

[zenith pawn]

does it look good at least

[hasty tundra]

I have a dell 32'' that they stopped making too

[slate patrol]

i mean for me yeah
idk about your standard

[hasty tundra]

so if i wanted a dual monitor setup id have to buy two new monitors

[slate patrol]

lemme send a pic

[zenith pawn]

oh i just realized i misread that as saying oled

[hasty tundra]

thats nice

dont your wrists hurt though? XD

[zenith pawn]

float your wrists

[slate patrol]

why?

[hasty tundra]

flat high profile with no rest

[slate patrol]

with keyboard u mean

[hasty tundra]

yea

[slate patrol]

tbh i am usually studying so i have books under my hand

[hasty tundra]

fair enough

[slate patrol]

and if i am gaming i dont really have a problem cause i am used to it

[hasty tundra]

i guess its a nice way to have a bit of extra space

[slate patrol]

i am switching to a aula f75 now
so might get a coushin thingy that people use with keyboard

[hasty tundra]

I get rsi cuz my thumbs are weird so i need my pad

i legit have unusually short tendons in my thumbs

[slate patrol]

fair enough

[hasty tundra]

makes handwriting really painful lol

i basically type everything

[slate patrol]

i wish i could type everything

[zenith pawn]

i got used to just floating my wrists when typing

[slate patrol]

but finals are offline

[slate patrol]

same'

[zenith pawn]

apparently thats ergonomically good too

[slate patrol]

adapting at max

[hasty tundra]

i had to do a final handwritten and my hand was swollen and red for like 4 hours after

[slate patrol]

i want to know a detail about my monitor but i cant find it weird

i wanna know what speaker this monitor have(like watt)

[hasty tundra]

omg i cant i hate carpeted rooms i just deepcleaned my pc a week ago and it already has dustbunnies on the outside

i have it on top of a plastic thingy so its not on the floor

[slate patrol]

damn

[zenith pawn]

do you have pets?

[hasty tundra]

nope

i live in a dorm

[zenith pawn]

oh

[hasty tundra]

its just no matter how much i clean i cant get rid of all the dust

it comes out of nowhere

[slate patrol]

same

[hasty tundra]

nice

[slate patrol]

can u help me with something bbaovanc

[hasty tundra]

i saw airforce 1 land from my room for the daytona 500

pretty neat living basically on an airport

[slate patrol]

https://www.samsung.com/in/support/model/LC27F591FDWXXL/#downloads
i want to find about this monitor speaker

[slate patrol]

must be cool

[hasty tundra]

oh yeah

falling asleep to the sound of the V8 nascars and jets is very soothing

[slate patrol]

fr

i have a race circuit

near my dorm

i wake up with engine revs

its a old f1 circuit that is now used for normal racing event or private events

[hasty tundra]

opinions on this 2.1

[slate patrol]

no knowledge so gotta wait for someone better lol

[hasty tundra]

crickets chirping

[slate patrol]

cricket chirping inensifies

[warm scarab]

1280 are decent but id buy the mr4 instead

no idea about the sub but polk has been very controversial whenever I see it mentioned

[hasty tundra]

interesting

alr i'll look at some other subs

what kind of amp/interface do i need to run the speakers through for 2.1

i know i cant just plug em straight into a pc

[left verge]

I recently got an android head unit and I'm curious if there's any app for eq settings
Or if there's multiple, which is preferred?

[warm scarab]

you are looking at actives so none

[warm scarab]

you do that exactly

[warm scarab]

poweramp equalizer is the best but its paid

wavelet is a free alternative

[jade yew]

wanting to get iems but ive seen people have problems with wnoise from goxlrs anyway to avoid the noise and use the mixer still

[night plume]

hmm https://www.amazon.com/Soundcore-Open-Ear-Headphones-Adjustable-Bluetooth/dp/B0DCZ2QFV8 my open ear earbuds no longer charge

They have the AeroFit Pros as well apparently for $150

https://www.amazon.com/Soundcore-Headphones-Ergonomic-Bluetooth-Water-Resistant/dp/B0CCRSQG8K

Standard earbuds do NOT work for me and I require a hook otherwise they will fall out of my mishaped ears

Also my left ear canal is actually larger then my right and requires a "large" tip while my right requires a medium tip

I have had my current earbuds for less then 3 years closer to 2 and they no longer charge which sucks

[hasty tundra]

get KZs with the bluetooth adapter

or smthn like that

[hasty tundra]

what if i only have one aux out

will i have the right IO for it?

[warm scarab]

yes

may need a cable

thats about it

[left verge]

Free but some features paid

Which is fine with me

[molten lotus]

Hey

I need to get some headphones for University. I am unsure whether to get the Xm4 or the Xm5 during Amazon prike day to save money

[haughty girder]

not worth it

[frigid ermine]

If I wanted to upgrade from Sennheiser HD 560S, which options do I have? (I mostly use them for gaming, but also of course listening to music)

[arctic lintel]

any sound engineers that can rate my airpods pro 2 eq? (in steelseries Sonar / GG)

:3c

[lean grove]

What don't you like about the 560s

[zenith pawn]

hows that audio

[lean grove]

Wrong channel?

[night plume]

Yeah lol

[night plume]

ment to post those in the general tech chat channel

[nocturne smelt]

hello, i was looking for a dynamic usb microphone for meetings and discord under 90 euros. Is the atr2100x the best option?

[lean grove]

Yes alongside the Samson q2u

Make sure to get a boom arm

[nocturne smelt]

i heard the samson q2u sounds a bit off with the usb connected

[lean grove]

Feel free to find one of the dozens of sound demos and make that call for yourself

[nocturne smelt]

so you would go with either the q2u or the atr?

[lean grove]

Yes.

[nocturne smelt]

alright, thats all I needed. thanks

[carmine badger]

i was cleaning my earbuds (huawei se3 wireless) and i accidentally pushed the small mesh on the side in. There are 2 meshes (one big one for the main outlet and one small one on the side). Is there any way I can fix this? It's made my right earbud sound quieter and lower quality and I'd like to avoid getting a new one so does anyone have any solutions?

[warm scarab]

depends on your priorities but i recommend edition xs to everyone

[night plume]

sighs if moving my head around while wearing in ear earbuds is causing audio quality to change then there is something up wither either my ears/head or earbuds which is another reason I want to use open ear buds over these

and the fact that I require hooked in ear earbuds otherwise they fallout is another reason I can't use your typical pair of "earbuds/earpods"

So can you blame me for sticking to things that actually work for me over things that don't becuase of things I can not control?

[warm scarab]

fallout mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-2-good-morning-melt-gif-2618608950858116154

[warm scarab]

yes

because earbuds falling out is a skill issue

with enough different eartips and sizes no such things as in ears that fall out

i personally tried like 10 eartip types before finding one that fits well

never an issue since

[haughty girder]

I went straight for spinfit w1 on just about everything

They kill subbass imo

but they're otherwise really solid

[zenith pawn]

oh maybe i would like those then

the included tips on the 7hz zero:2 are awful and i kinda think theyre too punchy

$9 for one pair though? is that expensive, ive never bought tips

[warm scarab]

use ali for those big ass packs imo

like the 20 packs of weird tips

they will mostly be ass but there may be 1-2 pairs that fit you well

[mossy barn]

im dumb as shit lmao

[molten lotus]

is bose quietcomofrt ultra or xm5 better, if so, how much better

[lean grove]

Maybe twenty five

[molten lotus]

so quite a bit increase

[lean grove]

No.

[molten lotus]

im just not sure what to get

everyone says different things

[lean grove]

Common problem

Anyone recommending Bose or Sony as a good sounding headphone probably don't know what they're talking about.

Like upwards of 90% chance.

For starters, what do you want, what do you need, and how much do you want to spend

[molten lotus]

hn

i need anc for university and walking and i will spend maximum 250 pound

*2nd hand too

[lean grove]

Okay. See if you can find a Ugreen max5c

They're like $25-$40

And they're tuned well

[warm scarab]

me fr

[lean grove]

I know it seems absurdly cheap, but mainstream tech companies charge way too fucking much for their anc headphones

[warm scarab]

i envy nils though

he is the only person in the server dumber than me

hate being the silver medal in a gold medal race

[molten lotus]

it aint in the uk apparently

[buoyant vale]

Other retailers than amazon are available

[lean grove]

Shoulda done more whippets and rotted your brain from the inside out

Your prefrontal cortex is cemented and unchanged

Mine remains plastic. Malleable. Like a baby.

[warm scarab]

:(

[balmy shoal]

Hey guys, my logitech g pro headset broke, just looking for a cheap replacement for now, i've been looking at the Samson SR850 and the Sennheiser HD206, does anyone have any experience with either headphones?

i usually use my headset for competitive shooters like valorant and music

[night plume]

Another issue is that NOT all earbud tips are created equal and those packs of tips will likely NOT fit whatever earbuds I down own/get as those little nubss can be widly different sizes I have noticed

The tip packs are one thing I wouldn't mind getting from aliexspress honestly as they aren't critical and have no actual eletronics within them that would blow up spectatularly if used

[warm scarab]

they do kind of fit whatever

its made out of rubber

it stretches a lot

and its kind of your fault if they dont fit since you didnt buy the correct nozzle size

like just buy the correct thing its not that hard

[warm scarab]

literally 90% of the amazon marketplace is products from china being sold at a price markup

[night plume]

I tend to stick to well known brands honestly on amazon

[warm scarab]

those brands just buy items from ali and assemble them instead

or have the chinese assemble it for them and sell them instead

very little of what you buy is made on the land you live

[lean grove]

some say he still has this question to this day

[haughty girder]

yea, the price isn't for everyone

Your first problems is your mousepad, second is what is your theme? Black monitor and headphones with white speakers and mouse, blue keyboard and red mousepad. Third is using farfield monitors nearfield

[zenith pawn]

do you know if there's any way I can compare the size to know which one to buy

[haughty girder]

nope! There's sizing charts that tell you the depth and width, but what works for you has to be tested

[zenith pawn]

that must be why there's a big warning about it being frequently returned

where's the sizing charts

[haughty girder]

I bought both ms and s based on my old eartips and found that s works for me the best, for example

[zenith pawn]

Oh wait I found chart

I didn't realize there were more pictures

Did you return the MS

Man I really need to buy a pair of dial calipers

[haughty girder]

No i kept the ms since they weren't exactly uncomfortable

I don't really abuse amazon returns for things that need to be sanitary

I just found s to be slightly more comfortable, both get a fine seal

[spiral pier]

Best budget earbuds? Like 60 $ and under

[zenith pawn]

I am a fan of the truthear zero red, but also do you have any preferences to go off of?

[minor patio]

Recommendations for a USB mic and boom arm looking to spend $100 or less if possible

[left forge]

it's a white theme the mousepad is getting changed soon, keyboard is white with some keycaps blue

[frosty ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588239278841135105/1342096720825417748/image.png

It looks pretty bad, but 91 samples at 384KHz probably is effectively "instant", right?

[frigid ermine]

I like em, I just like to upgrade if possible

[lean grove]

Possible yes but it's hard to tell you what would be a good upgrade without knowing what makes you want to upgrade.

There's definitely a lot of more expensive headphones but they'll have tradeoffs and changes that you might not prefer.

[steel escarp]

@lean grove which amp do you drive your susvara with?

percussion sounds soft on my amplifier with the susvara

[warm scarab]

schiit magni

[lean grove]

I don't have a susvara.

But I have an Smsl vmv a1

[steel escarp]

Oh

[lean grove]

I love the vmv though.

Highly recommend it if you have passive speakers at a desktop

[low fossil]

I'm currently looking for a new pair of headphones since the ear cups of my current ones (Jabra Evolve 65) are falling apart.

So far, I've figured out that the main important things for me are active noise cancellation and being able to easily switch between multiple wireless devices (also being able to use wired input via USB C would be great, but that's not strictly necessary). When I tried headphones at my local best buy, I found the Skull Candy ones too bass heavy (the most bass-focused song in my playlist iirc is Wir Fliegen), but other than that didn't have any other major preference.

[lean grove]

Take a look at the Ugreen max5c

[low fossil]

Huh. I wasn't expecting ANC to be available at all below like $100 (most of what I saw was in the $200-$350 range)

[lean grove]

ANC can be cheaply added to just about anything.

The hard part is making good ANC.

[zenith pawn]

yeah, even at 44.1k it would be pretty hard to hear

Also that's probably what the square wave is supposed to look like

https://youtu.be/cIQ9IXSUzuM?si=Qlqo_QKA4TWG42u4

[low fossil]

Okay, looks like I'll need to do some more research into this. Do you have any recommendations as to where I can look to better understand what my requirements/preferences would be?

[lean grove]

Rtings has good resources for ANC quality. Just ignore their numerical ratings for sound quality.

Their ratings system is dog-ass

If you look at the individual measurements, read up on how and why they do them, they can be a useful resource.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/ugreen-max5c-25-nc-headphone-review.58627/

[warm scarab]

the fucking what

[lean grove]

Latest cheap audio meme

Goes as low as $25 on ali express

[warm scarab]

jazz preset

yeah you couldn't listen to rock on those

on god

[low fossil]

****, completely forgot about that. Basically the two categories of music I listen to are videogame OSTs and Alt Rock, I was only thinking of the former when describing what I was looking for.

[lean grove]

The presets are a bit of a mess.

The jazz looks to be one of the better options

[warm scarab]

it was a meme man

[warm scarab]

tbh like

provided it comes with dsp

i dont think this is amazing

but then can you really ask anyone to go out of their way to eq things

[low fossil]

Got it, you had me worried for a second.

[lean grove]

Find me a better $25-$50 Bluetooth headphone

[warm scarab]

no?

[lean grove]

Then it's the best option.

[warm scarab]

coping because ur bad

[gilded frigate]

Is the sound blaster SB1500 a decent sound card?

Been messing abt with an old pc I have and took it out

[warm scarab]

its a sound card

[gilded frigate]

Yeh I ain’t planning on using it, just wondering if others would outside of here

[lean grove]

You have it in front of you. You tell us.

[gilded frigate]

I wouldn’t know, it ain’t in the pc

N that pc is not useable rn

[lean grove]

Would make a good paperweight then

[frosty ocean]

I thought it was supposed to look like a square

[warm scarab]

the closer it looks to a square with 90 degree edges

the better performance

[lean grove]

Only if you're using a proper square wave generator

[buoyant vale]

https://tenor.com/view/morpheus-real-world-laurence-fishburne-the-matrix-gif-5898146

[frosty ocean]

I'd rather not spend over 100 dollars on something I can't even hear. I'm fine with the under 16 I spent

[lean grove]

Idk why you'd want to listen to a square wave anyways

So more power to you

[steel escarp]

Susvara was a mistake

xD

fortunately I got it super cheap, second hand, somehow brand new

can sell it off

[zenith pawn]

It will if you happen to have the samples in the exact right phase angle. You can't hear the difference though, so it doesn't matter

its demonstrated in the video, let me see if I can find the timestamp

Its in the Gibbs effect section

I gtg so I can't go find the exact time right now

[frosty ocean]

I already watched the whole video.

[zenith pawn]

well then you should see why its not necessary to be a square wave right?

making it more squarey wouldn't make a difference because that would mean adding more harmonics that we can't hear anyways

[frosty ocean]

Not before i watched the video

[zenith pawn]

Ohhhhh I misread that

[frosty ocean]

Doesn't help that i messed with the pot that handles someone to do with something. Oh well

[steep roost]

I'm looking for a mixer ala GoXLR that shows up as multiple audio devices in Windows but has optical out so I can use my own DAC. Anyone know of such a thing?

[warm scarab]

why not just use your computers optical out?

[steep roost]

Doing a virtual audio cable is definitely an option but it's not the most ideal

I would like to do it in hardware if it's an option

[warm scarab]

you shouldn't need a vac?

do you want to use the goxlr's 3.5 out and optical at the same time?

[steep roost]

I want the mixed audio signal to be sent to the optical input on my DAC

The GoXLR has optical but it's an input only

[warm scarab]

its a software mixer

the sliders just change the volume on the windows mixer

the "mixed" signal is being produced by your computer, not the goxlr

so the goxlr literally just changes these

there is no real mixing happening

also its an overpriced piece of shit i dont think you should buy it

[steep roost]

That's not exactly correct, the GoXLR shows up as a bunch of different audio devices

[warm scarab]

yes for its 3.5 out

and the xlr input

these are irrelevent to its mixing abilities

because it doesn't mix anything

it just changes the values I posted above

[steep roost]

How do I get the output from one of the GoXLR's outputs to the optical out on my mobo then?

[warm scarab]

it should already?

[steep roost]

It definitely does not

[warm scarab]

tf

you should google that

[steep roost]

The only "outputs" that go back into Windows are the mic and broadcast stream mixes which show up as microphones

[warm scarab]

i think you can just get an x touch mini

then use midi mixer with it

sell the goxlr

get some 50$ interface

and profit like 200$

ig 50$ if its a goxlr mini

its not good enough of a product to keep especially now that its software support ended

[steep roost]

What software would I use that shows up as a bunch of different discreet audio devices as Windows?

[warm scarab]

and also leads to this exact circumstance you mentioned

none, I am trying to understand why you would need that

at least within the alternative I've provided to you

[steep roost]

Let's say I have a game, Discord, and Spotify all going at the same time. I want hardware sliders that adjust the volume of each of them

[warm scarab]

yes

you don't need discrete outputs for this

the windows mixer already can handle the volume of all of these discretely

and midi mixer controls that

the way goxlr adds like 4 inputs is like a completely stupid and unnecessary solution

there is an introduction video on midi mixers website, its like 3 minutes long, i recommend you watch that

[steep roost]

I understand that I can do that per app, that would solve most of my problems but not all of them

[warm scarab]

you can group apps together too

just watch the video if you have any other questions ill answer them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIcy54HSfQ

1:20 minute video

[steep roost]

But for that example it looks like I have to manually assign an app to a knob

So for each different game I open I would have to go in and remap it

[warm scarab]

instead of manually assigning apps to devices you manually assign apps to knobs via software?

[warm scarab]

there is a focus mode

it changes volume of whatever window is up front

you can also press a knob inwards to assign it to whatever app is focused on

like in the video

[steep roost]

I guess I will get one to play around with

It's still not hands off as my current setup but it might be good enough

[warm scarab]

it does most of what your setup already does

aside from outputting and inputting audio

[steep roost]

With my GoXLR I don't have to do anything when I open a new game because it just gets routed to the default Windows audio device and I have nothing else using that device

So I will lose that but it will probably be fine

But thank you though, I had no idea something like this existed

[warm scarab]

you are welcome

I personally alt tab to manually add any programs to the massive list I have of games but maybe you'll find other methods more comfortable

[steep roost]

Pushing the knob seems like an ok compromise

[warm scarab]

pushing the knob doesnt add to the list

it assigns the app to the knob

[steep roost]

Right, which works if I do it each time

[warm scarab]

yes

id also not advise paying for this program

because the developer has been neglecting it for a long time

[steep roost]

And I'm assuming it will remember levels for each game which would be nice

[warm scarab]

he has a subscription thingy that allows you to use plugins

well more than 1 plugin

which is completely unnecessary

[steep roost]

@warm scarab So I ended up doing research all day and went in a different direction, I grabbed a RME Babyface Pro FS and a midi controller. It's waaaay overkill but I like that it's a hardware DSP instead and doesn't do anything on the host PC

And then from there, go optical out into my DAC

[livid lagoon]

does anyone know of some bluetooth adapter that I can plug into a 3.5mm combo jack so that I can use my Sony XM4 headset for meetings and such? Bluetooth is disabled on that computer due to security (government agency supplied laptop). Or if there is some usb dongle that shows up as a wired usb headset (similar to the supplied USB Platronics headset, that murders your ears if you have glasses) that I can connect my XM4 to?

[steep roost]

Ugreen makes one but it looks like it's kinda hard to get https://www.amazon.co.uk/UGREEN-Bluetooth-5-0-Rec-r-Receiver/dp/B07TZ412J5

[terse river]

u think thisl also work on planes?

[lunar delta]

So, I just built a new gaming rig and I'm having trouble with audio. I have a nice 5.1 speaker setup with a receiver connected to my PC with SPDIF. It worked fine on the system I replaced but it looks like new Realtek (and/or Windows 11) doesn't support 5.1 on SPDIF anymore. I know SPDIF is so legacy it's not funny so I'm open to replacing the receiver with one that supports HDMI and putting it inline with my monitor as long as that doesn't cause a problem. Is that the solution? Or is there a good external/PCIe solution that would have an HDMI audio output?

[warm scarab]

normally hdmi is how you handle surround

the receivers typically have a passthrough so you can use their output and connect it to your monitor

if you dont want to do that you can get a usb to hdmi adapter

[lunar delta]

Would a usb HDMI adapter create a 'ghost display'?

[warm scarab]

yes

you'd just mark that monitor as "duplicate" screen

and that shouldnt drain system resources

probably

[candid hare]

Got a trs to RCA cable was wondering where I connect it to my yama receiver. I'm connecting passive speakers to receiver and then to audio interface

[warm scarab]

the input?

i dont get the question

[candid hare]

i plugged it to line in

[warm scarab]

yes

the input

one of many

what is the issue

[candid hare]

just wanted to know where to plug in the cabler

[warm scarab]

anything not a phono in

[candid hare]

i got it working just wanted to make sure i had the best connection

[blissful mango]

I’d technically classify this post under here. Recently got a cheap RTL SDR and have really been enjoying it

[vast ferry]

Not very sketchy at all

...

That's a plug btw

[buoyant vale]

[zenith pawn]

i don't think you're supposed to do that

[blazing minnow]

They’ve done enough car things that I can post this

It’s weird how pointing the subwoofer towards the back of the car makes it louder. You’d think the sound waves would escape

[zenith pawn]

i think bass and sub reverbs super hugely

something like that, and thats why its so hard to dampen/isolate, and so hard to locate where it's coming from with your ear

[terse river]

its possible you were in a null spot, so by turning it around, the phase shift outweighed any lost sound waves

[true orbit]

yo question, there is this bug with steelseries sonar where when you use it, if you disable the audio device it creates for you aka "steelseries sonar - gaming" it will re-enable itself when you start up windows again, im wondering if i uninstall that audio device will that permanenetly delete it?

[terse river]

not sure what you're asking here...

as far as i know, turning off sonar should just work

[true orbit]

ill explain it better

situation: i need sonar because of its EQ and ai noise cancellation to use with a microphone

problem: when you use the sonar, it creates new audio devices on your pc, such as: Steelseries Sonar Microphone, however it doesnt just do this for the microphone, it does this for about 7 different things, now you can disable them, and then they wont show up, however when you restart windows, not only do they show up again after being disabled but they also default to the default audio driver for both your headphone and microphone

me and the people who use steelseries sonar for ONLY the microphone, have begged steelseries to make a version where it only defaults the mic input instead of both the mic and the headphones

so im wondering

if i uninstall all the audio devices it created for me, apart from the one i am using for my microphone

would that remove them permanently? instead of re-appearing again upon a computer restart

im not sure if this gave you a ping, since i just read your bio, so @terse river

[terse river]

oh yeah, hate steelseries for adding so much clutter to pc, i kinda just live with it now

however, ive been to lazy to fix it but i think there are ways

i think that in the settings menu (dont know the specifics, look it up on reddit or smth lol) you can make certain audio devices not show up

so i would just do that for all the devicees u dont want your pc to recognize

@true orbit

[true orbit]

oh thank you

[warm scarab]

nah

[warm scarab]

use another software like rtx voice

or just add a noise gate vst to equalizer apo controlling your mic

directly solve the issue from the root

[grand granite]

Erm, I don't think that's how you are supposed to use that sir

[wise crater]

hey guys im having an issue with my headset/mic wondering if anyone can help, my headset is showing up as speakers and my mic is not showing up at all ive been through all the trouble shooters and control panel settings and cant figure it out

[left verge]

Are the Sundaras worth it for $120

[livid ruin]

decent yes

[zenith pawn]

those graphs are nice but how do they sound 😉

[livid ruin]

like hifiman

[left verge]

I was gonna get some he400se's but maybe these

[livid ruin]

the he400se at $65 are good value, but ig you're looking for something "slightly better" sure the sundaras are ok

may consider k361/k371, old ver. hd560s, pc37x, ft1 as well

[left verge]

$65?
Where you see that

[livid ruin]

aliexpress

[left verge]

They ate like $110

[left verge]

😬

[livid ruin]

pick the "bilateral" version of the he400se

the stealth is probably not worth the extra

[left verge]

I did look at those
They didn't seem to have the range

[livid ruin]

which range

there's also the lyxpro has-15 if you want something even cheaper, they measure great for the price

[left verge]

I'm seeing 1 star for them

[livid ruin]

amazon reviews and such aren't 100% indicate of quality

[zenith pawn]

read the reviews to see what people actually say instead of just looking at the stars

[warm scarab]

no

save up for edition xs and an amplifier later on for it

[left verge]

Those are like double

[warm scarab]

tbh yeah they are like 200

but you dont buy headphones every other day and sundaras aren't very good to begin with

maybe buy hd560s and sundaras at the same time and return whichever you dislike, those should be 150$ ish

[hearty vine]

Has anyone bought the fake? It's been up for a while.

I don't think it's a fake, it's a small mic company and they're inexpensive, however still a weird listing. I guess it's worth checking it out.

[terse river]

i wouldnt buy it for sure

those 11 reviews scare me

oh quick question

I was gifted the razer serien v3 chroma a few months ago

and I wanted to ask how it holds up sound wise

obv theres better stuff for the money, but yknow, just wanna now how good it is flat out

[warm scarab]

i mean

you should be able to that question better than us

[low fossil]

Replying to my previous conversation about this in case the context is relevant, but the tl;dr is that I'm looking for new headphones, and I want to get ones with Active Noise Cancelling.

One of the headphones I'm looking at is the JBL Live 675NC. But I can't seem to find any reviews for it. I think it might be the same as the 670, just renamed because of Costco, but I'm not sure. (They were $70 when I looked in-store, if that's useful info)

[elder thistle]

no they dont

that was with mods

[livid ruin]

oh really, i thought it was just with velour pads

how do they sound stock then

which velour pads did you buy for them off ebay

[elder thistle]

what are you trying to accomplish? those headphones are all quite different

I believe it was these, but I can confirm it late tuesday when I get home https://www.ebay.com/itm/235563102063

but I also removed the damping cups from the knockoff m50x system and dremeled out the entire back

a couple holes could probably accomplish something similar

wouldnt be as open though

also they may be uncomfortable because the earpads are small in every dimension

and as its an m50x type headphone its subject to wildly different experiences

[livid ruin]

Alr

[left verge]

I have a list of headphones that iv'e been gathering up
That was just an option

@warm scarab

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-skinner-suprised-speeded-up-ratatouille-version2-gif-20704217

[buoyant vale]

This is a list of headphones to avoid right?

[true orbit]

That's what it looks like

[left verge]

Uh nooooo...... 🤨

[buoyant vale]

💀

[left verge]

What 🤔

[left verge]

That's after a couple hours of watching reviews and tier lists, and other sites
And what has also been recommended to be so far

[buoyant vale]

Who is recommending K92?

and grado 💀

and all the worst sennys

[lean grove]

You got played by the content farms. Most of those headphones are pretty bad.

[left verge]

I forget but it was like 5-6 different videos lol

[buoyant vale]

Also jumping around between closed and open backs too

Well disregard anyone shilling k92 or grados advice

[left verge]

I don't really care if it's closed or open

[buoyant vale]

then stop looking at closed backs

[left verge]

Alr i'll remove those from the list

[left verge]

Something wrong with closed back
Is it that open back is just better?

[lean grove]

Generally speaking I don't know anyone that prefers closed backs if good open backs are an option.

Much easier to make good open backs than good closed backs.

[steel escarp]

DCA Stealth

[lean grove]

I don't know anyone that has a dca stealth as their main headphones

[steel escarp]

oh mb, I think I heard the expanse instead of the stealth

now im not sure anymore

[buoyant vale]

and this guy clearly isn't looking for 4k headphones

[steel escarp]

but this 3kHz area was indeed elevated

[lean grove]

Grey coming in and creating his own conversation

[steel escarp]

sorry mb

but I'd prefer the DCA Stealth over an open back

@left verge get the Fiio FT1 Pro

and remove the Moondrop Joker from that list please 💀

[buoyant vale]

Just remove the list

[steel escarp]

the only good headphone on that list is he400se, but it needs a good amp to be powered correctly

[lean grove]

Me when I recommend a $100 headphone and a $600 amp as the best beginner setup under $200

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-10865501938883882879

[hardy heath]

Hello, can you help me? I'm am looking for faithful successor to Sony's XB line of headphones. I am currently still using MDR XB500, I upgraded to XB950n in 2019 but they broke down recently. I don't need wireless headphones. I am looking for something wired with 40mm drivers. Good noise suppression is not necessary, I will be using them with my laptop in home without standalone dac.

[warm scarab]

i mean

compared to the things in that list aside from he400se and k361

you do make the sundara look like a miracle

[lean grove]

What constitutes as a "faithful successor?"

Also are you sure you need 40mm drivers?

[hardy heath]

In this case faithful successor would be something with bassy characteristics I think.

XB500 and XB950n were equipped with the 40mm drivers, I thought they are necessary to achieve frequency respond curve I want.

[left verge]

Sarcasm
I mean, for how iv'e seen them go for they look like a good deal
But that is deceiving

[lean grove]

Driver size has very little to do with sound signature.

You might like the hermonicdyne eris. People always talk about how bassy it is.

[left verge]

How good of an am would i need?

[lean grove]

Just so you know, a lot of people who go deep into planar magnetic headphones overstate how much power they need. So you can never get a consistent logical answer to this question.

So really you don't need much. I had a fosi ds1 powering some of the hardest to power headphones in the world and it did fine. Although it was a bit quiet.

[left verge]

I'll keep that in mind
The more and more i hear about amps, the more i'm just thinking about just getting one
Audiophile drivers and equalizers can only do so much lol

[lean grove]

I'm never gonna tell someone to not get an amp if they want one.

But Im just saying that a lot of people overstate how important the amplifier is to the quality of a headphone. Especially when it comes to planars.

It's borderline gaslighting. "Oh you didn't like this headphone? You weren't powering it correctly. You need this other amplifier that nobody ever buys to power it correctly"

I'm ranting

[left verge]

So my realtek would probably be fine?

[lean grove]

It would definitely be usable.

There are some piss poor mother board audio chips out there. It's hard to say what's in your motherboard because this isn't something they really give much useful information on in the spec sheet.

[zenith pawn]

afaik its not nearly as big of an issue as it is with iems, which is where I see the most complaining happen

iems are so small

[lean grove]

Iems can pick up hissing a lot easier and sometimes wacky stuff can happen with output impedance

But also sometimes the output just sounds bad.

But good news! If you already use your motherboard audio, your baseline is unchanged. Good headphones off a bad source will almost always sound better than bad headphones off a bad source.

There's zero reason to overspend and buy everything at once.

[left verge]

It has an ALC897

[left verge]

Alr, thx for the advice
Technically that list is obsolete now lol
The top 2 recommended iv'e seen are the 9600s and those he400se's

[naive slate]

Hello!
I'm having some troubles with a pair of headphones of mine not giving out audio.

Realtek is saying that the headphones are plugged in and its pretty much ready to go.

I do have a aux cable plugged into them to extend the headphone's cable length but its also TRRS (Tip, Ring, Ring, Sleeve).

Does anyone know what's going on?

Detes on the Headphones:

• They're Sentey Thor X LS-4430 HD Headphones
• The aux cable is a PowerDewise

So, did a few tests of mine.
The headphones only give audio when I plug the headphone's cable directly to my PC.
When testing for audio with the PowerDewise cable attached, it says there's audio playing, but can't hear it.

Also, @lost lynx, from what I can tell, I don't have a seperate option in the advanced settings.

[lost lynx]

set a #1027757333117415424 thread up and we'll do it there

[lean grove]

I really did hate the 9600s. So they get a thumbs down from me.

Sennheiser 560s, 6xx, and fiio ft-1 should be on your list too.

[left verge]

From Philips?

[lean grove]

Yes.

It sounded thin and bloated at the same time. Wasn't a fan.

[steel escarp]

Get Fiio FT1 pro over he400se

It's like 40% better

[left verge]

I would hope if it 2x as much

[steel escarp]

Nah progression is not that rapidly

Diminishing returns kick in hard around 300 USD

[left verge]

No i'm saying i hope that would be better if it's over $100 more

[steel escarp]

Ah yeah unfortunately it doesn't work like that, tho 40% better is still quite a lot when it comes to audio. It will be very noticeable.

[elder thistle]

how did the r30x come to exist on this list

[left verge]

It was one that was recommended

[elder thistle]

by who?

[elder thistle]

a headphone that doesnt exist or hasnt been heard cannot have review information

[left verge]

I made a post about this in r/headphones and it was a reply

[elder thistle]

and it still cannot have review information if said person hasnt compared it to a bunch of other heaadphones and publishes their observations piecewise

"good" is not piecewise

there is a reason headphone reviews are 15 minutes long

[steel escarp]

I think the headphone was at canjam?

Tho a good review should take 2 weeks of constant listening

[left verge]

If they go for a heavy sale, ill add them

[warm scarab]

its worse than r70x

about -40 times

[elder thistle]

refer to gray's comment and of course better/worse being meaningless and misleading in reviews

I think these $40 lyxpro headphones are "better" than the edition xs , not just value-wise but outright as if they were the same price

[stone quartz]

https://youtu.be/4PMpwY_Dx88?si=D5AJ0BRke5jhzEvK&t=6

That poor generator has seen some abuse, lol.

[clear rapids]

Which one should I get? Money isn't a problem (As long as its under $400)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843940126106320922/1343914936958586954/image.png?ex=67bf01d1&is=67bdb051&hm=758f71cceba16a59eb624f61f14511bf2601bdc4102aa6fc16fa05aeef15d111&

[livid ruin]

momentum out of these two

[elder thistle]

but that's a useless, unspecific, and subjective statement

[daring night]

which one do you think is better?
decided to go for budget earphones because i've already lost 2 sony linkbuds s.
i use a nothing phone 2

[elder thistle]

the cycle continues

humanity is doomed

[lean grove]

Why those two

[zenith pawn]

the cycle of "which is better" when its subjective?

[lean grove]

People getting stuck with bad advice because they ask bad questions

[elder thistle]

yeah pretty much

I essentially gave the answer which was immediately followed by the same question

[covert basin]

anyone got any decent wireless headphone recommendations which support 2.4ghz and bluetooth with both being usable at the same time

currently got hyperx cloud 2 wireless and only 2.4ghz lowkey sucks when I facetime with my girl when we game

was looking at corsair virtuoso xt's but don't really wanna mess with corsair's software cuz it's ass

I do not care about the headphones mic quality if it comes with it since I have a Rode xlr podmic

No Arctis tho I hate their headphones

I don't like the headband thing they have

I saw some ppl recommending jbl quantum 800

battery seems like ass though only 14 hours

[covert basin]

also preferably something with a detachable mic or a retractable one so it isn't in the way

[livid ruin]

budget?

audeze maxwells are decent

or are these too much

[covert basin]

Ay caramba i am not spending 400 bucks on headphones 😭

Idk give me something at 70€-150€ price range I'm looking to get em used

There's corsair virtuoso xt's for sale for 85€ and Arctis 9's for 50€ both brands that I don't like but they have what I want and for reasonable prices

Hmm corsair virtuoso xt goes for almost 300€ but can be gotten used for 85€

16hr battery 💔

[covert basin]

Ah it's like 4yrs old makes sense why it's so cheap on the used market

hmm

Razer blackshark v2 pro for 50€

supports both 2.4ghz and bluetooth

and is also good but with shit software guh

I found one for 30€ ulala

nvm im dyslexic

was the v2 x for 30€

70 hours battery too

double of my hyperx wireless 2 ulala

@livid ruin razer blackshark v2 pro for 50€ sound good?

[livid ruin]

i wouldn’t personally buy them

[covert basin]

guh

[livid ruin]

maybe g435 if you don’t care about build quality for a dirt cheap 2.4ghy headphone

[covert basin]

i need 2.4ghz AND bluetooth

both

[livid ruin]

i think it does support bt

[covert basin]

it does

just checked

wasn't expecting a lowend headset to have allat

and only 18hr battery

gulp

half of my hyperx cloud 2's battery and I already struggle with it's battery

[livid ruin]

well, at this price point 2.4ghz headphones are like that if you want somewhat ok sound

i don’t think you’ll get much better if you already own a pair of working cloud 2’s

[covert basin]

this doesn't have bt and that's my main issue with it

https://tenor.com/view/munchies-gif-23499045

[livid ruin]

oh

well, so probably the g435 but if you say the battery cap. is not enough then i don’t know

when you also don’t want arctis

jbl offrerings are solid that you mentioned it

but unsure about the quantums particularly

[covert basin]

from what i've heard great audio quality but my main gripe with it is poop battery

[livid ruin]

i wouldn’t say great but better than most gaming headsets

[livid ruin]

what about using cloud 2’s for gaming and something from jbl with just bluetooth

[covert basin]

i need both at the same time

[livid ruin]

hm

[covert basin]

my girl likes to use facetime to talk while we play at the same time

so getting the audio from my facetime and the audio from my computar game at the same time to the same headset would be sexy

[covert basin]

the one I looked at was the 2020 model there's a 2023 model for 70€ I could probably haggle it down to 50 + shipping or 60€ + shipping

bigger battery will be a massive plus for me since 2.4ghz and bluetooth will chomp on the battery

[livid ruin]

well, up to you, i wouldn’t personally pay that much for a razer headphone

they’re not atleast total garbage

when it comes to sound

the 2023 should be better

[covert basin]

the v2 pro's go for like 200€ for the 2023 model

brand new

[livid ruin]

yeah that’s super overpriced

if you say you can get them for €70 that’s acceptable

[covert basin]

currently it's my best choice

[livid ruin]

i would probably wait for someone to recommend something, i wouldn’t say they’re good you live in the finland* right?

[warm scarab]

hyperx cloud 2

there you go

not your best choice anymore

[terse river]

Anybody know of any good wireless headsets (or headphones) that use hotswappable batteries like the arctis pro wireless

[prisma fjord]

PSB M4U 8 Mk 2 or B&O H9i are probably your best options, but you're going to pay a premium for the build quality, audio quality and swappable batteries.

Anyone know why the newest shortcircuit on the headphone amp got taken down? I was half way through watching it yesterday and it still isn't back up. I haven't seen anyone talking about what happened or why.

[balmy shoal]

Hi i'd like to know more about IEMs, does anyone know a cheap budget pair for me to try out? (im currently using a logitech g pro x with the USB DAC on these EQ settings.) but the headset stopped working Lol

[balmy shoal]

Edit: i realise i have a pair of WH-1000xm3's lying around, might just use those

[red quest]

Alot of dust but idm

[covert basin]

but that's what I have currently

and it's not what I want

it doesn't support bluetooth

[warm scarab]

will you play games with bluetooth?

[covert basin]

no but I will use it for calls

[warm scarab]

then just get another pair of headphones for work use instead of desktop use

you are trying to fit multiple features into a headphone when you have a 70€ ish budget

[covert basin]

like I explained above I would use bluetooth for facetime audio and 2.4ghz for game audio since everytime I play with my girlfriend she likes to speak on facetime so we get to see each other and play at the same time

both bluetooth and 2.4ghz would be used at the same time

[warm scarab]

and blackshark does this?

without interrupting the other?

https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/17gbo06/simultaneous_24ghzbluetooth_on_blackshark_v2_pro/

[covert basin]

not sure about the interrupting but it's advertising being able to use bluetooth and 2.4ghz at the saame time

[warm scarab]

well it doesn't

[covert basin]

gulp

[warm scarab]

a headphone would have to have a mixer or a processor of some kind in it to get that to work

and it would probably eat up a ton of battery

what you could do is to get a real mixer

and then plug your phone into one end and your computer into the other

then your headphone to the output

presuming your headphone isn't wireless

[covert basin]

how much do mixers cost usually

[warm scarab]

im unsure

at least when it comes to the lowest end

you could just sort by lowest price and get something functional probably

[elder thistle]

a headphone doesnt need a complicated circuit to have bt and rf work at the same time

it needs 4 resistors

it is completely possible

[terse river]

No, the artis pro wireless does this

I take calls while having surround sound games

[warm scarab]

yeah but then you are stuck having artis pro wireless

[terse river]

Real

Nah I kinda like the headset for what it is, just stupid price

And terrible software

[warm scarab]

sounds too bad for what it costs

[terse river]

ok question here

ive got an avrx2700h

from denon

and i have a 3.1 setup but my center is really bad, so i want it to play in 2.1

how do i do that without spending 30 minutes with the audyssey mic doing setup, just with the center unplugged

i also cant do it software with my program, bc spotify doesnt let me just play in stereo

[serene iris]

any advice for xlr interfaces

[warm scarab]

unplug center

[oblique nest]

Told to post here but looking for headphones at around $200

Here's the OP

am pissed off at my headphones. My HD450BTs broke recently so I wanted to upgrade to the Momentum 4 Wireless. It has sticker residue on it, terrible battery life, and pauses my music every 10 seconds.

What should I get for around $200? ANC required and good for commuting. Listen to podcasts and music. I have some sensitivity to sound quality as I have a HD6XX at home.

[verbal fog]

fun fact some people believe you cant really hear frequencies under 30hz ish

[verbal fog]

standard options are probably your best bet if youre just looking for features

[oblique nest]

standard options?

[verbal fog]

id hit probably something like bose or sony or apple thats what everyone does

or just any of their identical competitors

[oblique nest]

bose is like $500 LMAO. Apple too

[verbal fog]

grr i dont know pricing

you could also always buy used

[oblique nest]

the question is whether to get "renewed" headphones off of Amazon/Walmart. 50% off which brings some of them into my price range

[verbal fog]

im sure renewed is fine

i dont really buy new anyways my main headphones i got open box

and i buy a lotta used pairs too generally

i never buy new though

[oblique nest]

I've had bad experiences with those though. I tried to get a renewed Apple Watch and got a stolen one all 3 times

[verbal fog]

i like ebay since they have buyer protection

youd get your money back in that situation

[oblique nest]

I got a "brand new" Momentum 4 Wireless off of Ebay but I don't know whether to return them

I don't really know whether they're fake

[verbal fog]

ebay returns to hurt the seller a little more than like an amazon return

[oblique nest]

Because the audio pauses every fucking 10 seconds

[verbal fog]

those dont look like theyd be faked do you have any indication that they would be

[oblique nest]

THey also don't connect to the app but that might be a bug

[verbal fog]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sennheiser/comments/yk0vbx/momentum_4_audio_pausing/

also these are evil wireless issues i have to say it but wired wouldnt have these issues

[oblique nest]

Also the battery is shit. It was at 90% then 50% after 5 hours

like this is their flagship model

[verbal fog]

thats pretty decent

[oblique nest]

they advertise 30+ hours

[verbal fog]

you might be able to swap it but id be happy with that

hmm

[oblique nest]

It may be a bug they updated but the app won't connect

Which other peopl ehave trouble with so not saying that means its a fake

[verbal fog]

i mean it happens thats how it is sometimes

try hard resets on everything if you want

[oblique nest]

ok

[lean grove]

Take a look at the Ugreen max5

[zenith pawn]

it depends on the person

like 24 hz or something i cant hear