audio-tech

[desert salmon]

yea

[warm scarab]

just make very very sure of it that they are all inserted perfectly

just force it in there a bit

[desert salmon]

theyre all in securely

[warm scarab]

did you download the drivers

[desert salmon]

lemme do that

[warm scarab]

also unplug the power source @desert salmon

try it like that

use only usb to pc

[desert salmon]

ok

[desert salmon]

i get more noise

[warm scarab]

is the sound fixed

[desert salmon]

let me download the drivers first

not fixed

[warm scarab]

did you flick any switches behind the speakers

[desert salmon]

nope

[warm scarab]

check the back of the speaker

look at the blue thing with the white switches

[desert salmon]

the dsp switches yea

what about them

[warm scarab]

is any of them not in its default space

[desert salmon]

yea

[warm scarab]

set it to its default

[desert salmon]

wont that fuck up my tuning

[warm scarab]

just do it man

you can flip it the other way

after you verified thats not the issue

[desert salmon]

ok

[warm scarab]

all of those switches should be up

i think?

[desert salmon]

they are

[warm scarab]

let me check again

[desert salmon]

doesn't fix it

[warm scarab]

set 6 down

set 4 down

setting all of them up gives it treble falloff

and bass falloff

[desert salmon]

did it

doesnt work

[warm scarab]

probably does but just a minor change

[desert salmon]

this is a dac issue

[warm scarab]

@desert salmon did you configure which is left and which is right

using the 8th switch

[desert salmon]

yea

[warm scarab]

yeah

no idea

[desert salmon]

fuck this dac

[warm scarab]

i give up

[desert salmon]

if i use optical to usb, will that use the dac on my motherboard

[warm scarab]

also why dont you try usb to optical

then optical directly into speakers

[desert salmon]

i need the sub and speakers all in the same dac

to contorl the volume

[desert salmon]

i did that before i had a sub and it sounded great

[warm scarab]

wait

i have an idea

just maybe

wait

how tf does this dac allow you to do that anyways

its just got left and right channel no sub out

[desert salmon]

the motherboard?

i use rca splitters

[warm scarab]

can you try not doing that

[desert salmon]

i cant connect the sub then

[warm scarab]

and connecting it just to the speakers

yes

do it for testing

[desert salmon]

ok one sec

i still hear noise

[warm scarab]

what about the sound

[desert salmon]

but its gone

sound is great

[warm scarab]

yeah

you are arbitrarily splitting the rca connection

that is the issue

[desert salmon]

ok so wtf do i do

[warm scarab]

this is why dacs and amps have subwoofer outputs

[desert salmon]

i need this sub on the same dac

[warm scarab]

should have bought a dac that had a port for that

[desert salmon]

bruh

what dac has that

[warm scarab]

does your subwoofer have a passthrough

tell me its name

[desert salmon]

idk

rythmik l12

[warm scarab]

yeah uh

consequences of buying random subs and speakers ngl

and dacs

none of these have a sub out or a passthrough

[desert salmon]

ffs

ik the sub out doesnt exist

i figured a dac woulud solve it

[and it should

cant i just use my motherboard

rca to usb

[warm scarab]

do you just use a wire that splits the rca to feed your subwoofer

[desert salmon]

currently using rca to rca male

[warm scarab]

i mean its a complete user fault

thats not what a dac does

[desert salmon]

but this system should be possile

possible*

with a dac

[warm scarab]

yeah with a dac that has a sub out

[desert salmon]

what dac

[warm scarab]

which is a rare thing

[desert salmon]

bruh fuck

no way

theres no way you absoltely need a sub out

[warm scarab]

you could probably buy a mixer with 2 outputs

and connect it to the subwoofer

just maybe

[desert salmon]

im not trying shit that may not work

id rather buy something that would work

right away

[warm scarab]

well good luck then

better return your speakers or subwoofer

get something with a pass through

[desert salmon]

i can only return the sub

i was aware the sub had no out

i figured a dac would solve that

[warm scarab]

it has 2 outputs

same as your motherboard

[desert salmon]

i cant just do optical to usb and rca to usb?

i guess i need a dac with a sub out

[warm scarab]

connect the dac through usb to your pc

[desert salmon]

damn, i had no idea it would be this difficult to set up a sub

i did

[warm scarab]

connect the sub to your pc via optical

[desert salmon]

oh

[warm scarab]

then download voicemeeter banana

make sure you output both for the optical and the dac

[desert salmon]

can only do that for monitors

[warm scarab]

then do the vice versa

its stupid asf to use a dac for a subwoofer btw

incredibly wasteful

anyhow

[desert salmon]

but i need to volume control it

[warm scarab]

you can do it via the pc

[desert salmon]

how else can i change the volume on both at the same time

[warm scarab]

with the pc controls

the remotes are useless

or adjust both at the same time

[desert salmon]

so why cant i just do optical to usb for speakers, and rca to usb for sub and use pc volume

[desert salmon]

that is ridiculous

[warm scarab]

thats literally what I said yes

[warm scarab]

.

[desert salmon]

ok so yea

ill use my motherboard dac

whatever

[warm scarab]

if you have a 3.5 to rca

you can connect your motherboard 3.5 to the subwoofer

and keep the dac for your speakers

[desert salmon]

i dont have the cable

[warm scarab]

k do what you can then

[desert salmon]

i can either buy rca to usb or 3.5 to rca

[warm scarab]

rca to usb is buying a dac btw

[desert salmon]

is this dac really that much better than my mobo

[warm scarab]

literally

no

[desert salmon]

yea so fuck it

why would i keep the dac

[warm scarab]

just return it

[desert salmon]

yea

[warm scarab]

anyways

do the voicemeeter thing

[desert salmon]

ill try that after i get the cable

[warm scarab]

you can do it with what you have right now

but ok

[desert salmon]

what would that do

id still have noise

[warm scarab]

you dont have noise with optical

[desert salmon]

ah yea

[warm scarab]

and subwoofer shouldn't emit much noise if the noise is in highs

[desert salmon]

but it sounds like shit

[warm scarab]

connect dac to sub

connect optical to speakers

[desert salmon]

ok let me see

i get no sound from my sub

[warm scarab]

use voicemeeter

you cant output to both at the same time without it

[desert salmon]

ok one sec

[warm scarab]

its not going to take one sec if you dont know voicemeeter banana lol

best of luck watching a tutorial

[desert salmon]

lol

i have to restart fuck

id rather get a cable tbh

[warm scarab]

cable wont solve this

you will still have to use voicemeeter if you have to use two outputs at the same time

[desert salmon]

id rather get a dac with a sub out

[warm scarab]

doesn't really exist

good luck

[desert salmon]

wym doesnt exist

no way i buy a sub that cant fucking connect

[warm scarab]

you literally did

[desert salmon]

im clearly missing something obvious

[warm scarab]

because your ass didnt check for no pass through

[desert salmon]

how tf do people connect this

i did check

[warm scarab]

because people's speakers either have a sub out

or a sub passthrough

[desert salmon]

i bought it thinking i could buy a dac

[warm scarab]

you have neither

[desert salmon]

and solve it

the kali guy sait it would be fine to do so

[warm scarab]

no its meant for passive speaker setups that have speaker amplifiers

and most speaker amplifiers have sub outs

[desert salmon]

so i legit can’t connect the sub at all?

[warm scarab]

you can with voicemeeter

or with a sound duplicator thingy

which may reduce audio quality

[desert salmon]

fucking hell

[warm scarab]

who knows

maybe ask deepseek or something

i dont know any method aside from what i told you

maybe your motherboard drivers have a setting that will allow this

some realtek sound cards do

[desert salmon]

i’m just more so surprised that there seems to be no way to connect this sub to powered speakers

the kali guy said i could use a dac and be fine

[warm scarab]

bring it up to him man

maybe he knows something we dont

[desert salmon]

yea i have to wait till monday or so

[warm scarab]

there is you just ignored all of it in the purchasing phase

[desert salmon]

i didn’t

i knew this didn’t have a hpf

or sub out

[warm scarab]

why buy it then

[desert salmon]

because i read it’s still possible to connect

why wouldn’t it be

[warm scarab]

where

[desert salmon]

people have surely done it before

forums

[warm scarab]

because of the reasons we have been talking about for the last 20 mins

[warm scarab]

its possible and I told you how

you could also buy an audio duplicator like I also said

or use motherboard driver panel that hopefully allows simultaneous output from 2 devices

[desert salmon]

why won’t me buying a sub out dac work

[warm scarab]

if you can find one it will

actually

an audio interface

that might work

yeah that will work

3.5 to rca at front

rca to rca at back to speakers

that should work

funny thing to buy an interface for listening to speakers though lol

[warm scarab]

do that?

isnt that what you did

[desert salmon]

wasn’t i already

yea

[warm scarab]

well did it work

no

so why you posting it lol

[desert salmon]

because maybe i might be missing something

user error

[warm scarab]

i dont think your result is unique

[desert salmon]

i could ask rythmik

[warm scarab]

just return the dac

buy an um2

connet it the way i described it

50$ saved

[desert salmon]

that’ll work?

i’m using the pc dac correct

[warm scarab]

yes

[warm scarab]

no

return that dac its useless

buy an um2 and connect it the way i described

[desert salmon]

yea i am returning it

[warm scarab]

rca outs to speaker

the front headphone jack to rca and into sub

may have noise ngl but it will work

if it has noise get a usb power filter

[desert salmon]

noise?

damn

let me see what this voice meter shit is

[warm scarab]

can you commit to one solution

please man

[desert salmon]

before i pack up my dac, id like to check

[warm scarab]

if that was what this came down to this would have ended 20 mins ago

[desert salmon]

you’re right

i’m a complete noob

[warm scarab]

screenshot the uh banana interface

[desert salmon]

i thought it was voicemeeter

[warm scarab]

voicemeeter banana

[desert salmon]

my shit is just voicemeeter

[warm scarab]

there is also voicemeeter potato

it will work

whatever

send a pic

[warm scarab]

may not work if you plan on using headphones lol

yeah

[desert salmon]

i do

[warm scarab]

go download banana

and btw

[desert salmon]

yea lol sorry

[warm scarab]

lmao

its ok

divine punishment (restarting your computer) for this mistake

[desert salmon]

yea i have to do it twice

lol

yea i’m reading some more info on connecting a sub to powered speakers with no outs

seems to be hard

fuck

[warm scarab]

just send the voicemeeter banana panel's screenshot

[warm scarab]

make the A2 and A3 green, below the virtual inputs AUX I

just click on these

[desert salmon]

done

[warm scarab]

on the top right there are 3 dropdown menus

a1, a2 and a3

for each of them, select outputs

eg for one the speakers

for one the sub

for one the headphones

[desert salmon]

ok one sec

done

[warm scarab]

click on b1 below the first a2 and a3 you clicked

[desert salmon]

done

[warm scarab]

uncheck the a1 at the left, below stereo input 1

the leftmost a1

[desert salmon]

done

[warm scarab]

click on select input device at stereo input 1, and set it to your mic

[desert salmon]

done

[warm scarab]

set your windows output to aux 1

see if you get audio

like

from the sound devices

regular windows ui

[desert salmon]

hold on let me see

[warm scarab]

set it to voicemeeter aux

[desert salmon]

does it matter if i do a1 to sub

[warm scarab]

nah

[desert salmon]

ok one sec

[warm scarab]

you activated all a1, a2 and a3 below voicemeeter aux

this means it will output to all 3 of those

[desert salmon]

i see voicemeeter in

not aux

[warm scarab]

set it to that

its ok

[desert salmon]

only see voicemeeter aux not aux 1

[warm scarab]

its been a while

[warm scarab]

is this on playback or recording devices tab

[desert salmon]

i’ll send a pic

[warm scarab]

yeah please do

i dont remember this stuff very well

[warm scarab]

set it to aux input

they represent these btw

when you select voicemeeter aux

[desert salmon]

ok

[warm scarab]

it will output your desktop audio to voicemeeter aux

[desert salmon]

got it

[warm scarab]

and since you selected a1, a2 and a3 below that

it will redirect the audio to all of those outputs

im telling you so you can troubleshoot this by yourself if you change your setup later on

[desert salmon]

ok so i have to go into banana to change the output from a1 to a3 for example?

[warm scarab]

uh

so ill tell from the base

the A1, A2, A3, B1, B2 under any input

represents what it will be outputted to

[desert salmon]

ok

[warm scarab]

if you check a1, and a1 is your subwoofer, that will provide sound

[desert salmon]

ok

[warm scarab]

you have two "mixers" one is the aux and one is the regular input

[desert salmon]

yes

[warm scarab]

for now you are using the aux one to mix all of your desktop audio together and output it to your outputs

[desert salmon]

reg input for mic

[warm scarab]

yeah

btw

[desert salmon]

virt aux for all 3

[warm scarab]

can you send me your recording devices tab

[desert salmon]

how do i do that

[warm scarab]

like

mics

[desert salmon]

where do i go

[warm scarab]

sound settings

input

just scroll down a bit on windows

[desert salmon]

this?

[warm scarab]

yes

select b1

[desert salmon]

ok

[warm scarab]

in theory, your mic sound should come from b1 from now on

so for discord and shit select that from now on

or any games

[desert salmon]

so when i want to go on discrd and use headphones to talk

and and hear

what do i press

[warm scarab]

set the output of discord to voicemeeter aux

and set the microphone to voicemeeter b1

in theory that should work

[desert salmon]

ok one sec

[warm scarab]

and right now your speakers and sub should be working together atm

i think

[desert salmon]

that makes the sound come out of my speakers

not headphones

[warm scarab]

all of your speakers, subs and headphones should work atm

if you want to change that, uncheck a1, a2 or a3 below the aux in voicemeeter

[civic beacon]

In case it helps, tada! (This is more or less exactly how I have my Banana configured.) That said, everyone's audio inputs / outputs may be slightly different, so some trial and error is required.

[warm scarab]

yeah you get output from b1

it should work on fluenza's end too thanks for verifying

[desert salmon]

wait i’m confused

output on discord i put voicemeeter aux?

input i put b1?

[warm scarab]

yes

[desert salmon]

ok

but my sub isn’t working

[warm scarab]

uh

send voicemeeter screenshot

[warm scarab]

im very sure i didnt miss out out any instructions

[warm scarab]

for troubleshooting purposes

plug in the optical from sub to your speaker

just to verify you get output from it or not

[desert salmon]

wait wym. i only have rca

[dawn panther]

Try upmixing the out to 2.1

[desert salmon]

i dont have an out

[dawn panther]

Well ofc the sub doesn't work

[warm scarab]

rca to speaker i mean sorry

plug in whatever you got conneted to your sub to your speakers instead

to make sure you have audio output

[desert salmon]

ok

[warm scarab]

the output is 3

[civic beacon]

I'd offer to help, but I'm a visual person, so someone would need to provide a detailed diagram showing exactly how everything is connected. Hope you can get things working!

[warm scarab]

which is 2.1 considering 1 goes to the sub

[warm scarab]

its an absolute clusterfuck btw

[dawn panther]

On voicemeeter you can upmix stereo to 2.1

[warm scarab]

ive been talking to this dude for like 3 hours i think

which is also my fault

[dawn panther]

Idk what's goin here I'm confuse

[civic beacon]

I know; I skimmed the chat. I'ma stay out of it. Sometimes less hands in the kitchen is better.

[warm scarab]

where would the 1 be in the physical output

[desert salmon]

yea i get output

[warm scarab]

i think your subs volume is just low

or its off

lol

[dawn panther]

Idk man I just showed up

[desert salmon]

its not off

or low

[warm scarab]

no reason why your sub wouldn't get volume if your speakers do

from the same cable

like, if you plug in an rca that works on your speakers to your sub

thats on the subwoofer

do you have like an input selection thing on your subwoofer?

[desert salmon]

its a diff rca cable

one is longer than the other

[warm scarab]

can you draw a diagram

of the entire physical setup please

[desert salmon]

ill try

[warm scarab]

thank you

[warm scarab]

ok

so you took the dac's rca out

and plugged it into the speakers

and it worked right?

[desert salmon]

the speakers are using optical to usb to the mobo

[warm scarab]

like i said before

[desert salmon]

i’m solely using the dad for the rca from sub

[warm scarab]

for the sake of troubleshooting

[desert salmon]

dac

[warm scarab]

plug in the dac output

to the speakers

[desert salmon]

i did

[warm scarab]

to verify you get audio from them

ok and it worked?

[desert salmon]

yes

it had noise tho

[warm scarab]

and if you plug the rca to the sub

you dont get audio?

[desert salmon]

correct

[warm scarab]

what the fuck

same rca?

[desert salmon]

diff rca cuz one is longer

i can’t reach it to the sub

but the rca def works cuz i used the sub before

[warm scarab]

i think your sub volume is just low

[civic beacon]

@desert salmon for testing purposes, click this toggle until it says "UP MIX TV" for all your A# outputs.
This ensures Voicemeeter actually upmixes sounds from your computer that are not actually outputting a Sub-channel signal, which will be pretty much EVERYTHING that isn't a movie played back through software compatible with multi-track audio.

[warm scarab]

or its off

[warm scarab]

no mate

it works

he takes the dac's rca output

plugs it into sub

says it doesn't work

plugs it into speakers instead

says it works

[desert salmon]

mhm

[warm scarab]

the only faulty component here possible is the rca cable or the subwoofer

[desert salmon]

sub and rca were working

earlier

[civic beacon]

gotcha. so something's wonky with - yeah, the sub or one of the audio outputs / connections

[warm scarab]

i think you just played a music that doesnt have bass?

or the volume is low

[desert salmon]

ok wait

[warm scarab]

of the subwoofer

or the speaker volume is so high

[desert salmon]

now i’m getting sub

power

[warm scarab]

yeah

lmfao

[desert salmon]

and i hear it

[warm scarab]

great

[desert salmon]

but it’s going to my headphones

and sub

[warm scarab]

yes

to change that

check or uncheck the a1, a2 or a3 below voicemeeter aux

at the voicemeeter panel

if you have sub at a1, uncheck a1 to disable it

if you have headphones at a3, uncheck a3 to disable headphones

[desert salmon]

i unchecked, but i’m not getting speaker sound

[warm scarab]

thats your switch

[desert salmon]

oh wait i’m stupid

i have to plug the optical back in

one se

sec

[warm scarab]

i should be getting paid for this

[desert salmon]

lol ok wait

ok

so

[warm scarab]

we good?

[desert salmon]

ok i think i got it

let me test something

[warm scarab]

nice

change the sub, speaker volume individually if you arent pleased with their ratio

from their physical remotes/dials

[desert salmon]

if i raise the volume, i wanna see if the sub raises too

wow the audio quality is so much better

[warm scarab]

did we succeed?

[desert salmon]

i think so

[warm scarab]

is the journey over

[desert salmon]

i just need to tinker

yea lol

[warm scarab]

incredible

[desert salmon]

can i add u on dm just in case

[warm scarab]

no

[desert salmon]

fair

[warm scarab]

I recommend you familiarize yourself with voicemeeter banana

this setup will work and I think you understand the base principles of how it works

but it may break

[desert salmon]

yea so beforehand, i uncheck the a1, and so on

to uncheck the inputs

[warm scarab]

yeah

literally this

[molten swan]

Btw @warm scarab I tried some other genres and artists I used to listen to and wow. (lindsey stirling rocks on these).
Thanks for the tips, they were great

[desert salmon]

yep

[warm scarab]

if your windows output is voicemeeter aux, you will get your desktop sounds at the voicemeeter aux I

[desert salmon]

and for discord, i can just uncheck them as well right

[warm scarab]

yeah

[desert salmon]

got it

[desert salmon]

it is

[warm scarab]

basically anything you send to voicemeeter aux

goes to voicemeeter

[desert salmon]

sweet

virtual mixer

[warm scarab]

and from there you set its output to a1, a2, a3

you decide where it goes

[desert salmon]

thank god

and thank you

i was about to tweak

[warm scarab]

you are welcome man

[desert salmon]

how so

[civic beacon]

This is exactly how I use it - send everything to Banana, then manage in Banana. Makes it easy to stream audio to... um... places I'm not supposed to stream audio to, accordingly to my lawyer. 🤣

[warm scarab]

voicemeeter kind of operates under hopes and dreams sometimes

just works until sometimes it decides not to

generally a lot of troubleshooting videos out there

[desert salmon]

this makes me a bit nervous cuz my sub is a paperweight if it doesn’t work

[warm scarab]

lol

[warm scarab]

btw i advise you get a 3.5 to rca and just return the dac

[warm scarab]

you can do the um2 audio interface solution when that happens

its a hardware solution, wont break

[desert salmon]

and that’ll still work on banana?

[warm scarab]

and way simpler than this

[warm scarab]

yeah

[desert salmon]

sweet

[warm scarab]

just set the output to the 3.5 out

that you connect the sub to

[desert salmon]

on sound mixer in windows? or in banana

[warm scarab]

if you dont have another 3.5 out, get a small dongle dac for like 10$

[desert salmon]

banana i assume

[warm scarab]

banana yes

windows is always aux

anything you want to hear goes to aux

[desert salmon]

i’m currently not using 3.5 out on my mobo, so i can get a rca tk 3.5

[warm scarab]

yes

thats what I said

[desert salmon]

yea

[civic beacon]

It's less about your sub not working and more about Voicemeeter being what @warm scarab said. In general, the only things I have to occasionally fix are when:

1. Windows changes my default audio outputs because OBVIOUSLY I want to switch my defaults EVERY SINGLE TIME Windows detects a new audio device, duh!
2. Voicemeeter decides to initialize crackly.audio.mode™ which is easily fixed by telling it to Restart its Audio Engine from the Menu.

[warm scarab]

but yeah for a simpler hardware solution, you would get an um2, connect it to pc via usb (may have noise you need to purify), then just use its available outputs to the stuff you got

[desert salmon]

i will save this

thank you

[warm scarab]

btw does your windows audio slider work @desert salmon

[desert salmon]

and i get a usb power filter for the noise

[warm scarab]

yes

if you get the um2

[desert salmon]

ok

[warm scarab]

anyways

does your windows audio slider work

does it actually adjust the audio

[desert salmon]

nope

[warm scarab]

there should be an option for this

[civic beacon]

If using Voicemeeter, it won't. At least, I have not found a way to make it work.

[warm scarab]

at the same menu kirashi sent

[desert salmon]

i control volume on my music application

[warm scarab]

i think

[desert salmon]

it’s fine

i barely touch it

i keep it at 50

[warm scarab]

the solution is uh

i remember there being one

you see like the 0db slider under aux 1

I remember an option that made the default audio slider

[desert salmon]

yea

[warm scarab]

so when I used my keyboard's knob, that would just go down instead

[desert salmon]

oh that’s nice

[warm scarab]

i dont remember how but its possible if you fiddle with it

[desert salmon]

it’s fine anyways

[civic beacon]

You can, however, tell Voicemeeter to "hook" into certain audio outputs, but that just tells it to listen to hardware inputs - it does not make the Windows volume slider work.

[warm scarab]

yeah this @desert salmon

thanks kirashi

[desert salmon]

i can control my subwoofer with the remote actually

from the dac

[warm scarab]

i so dont want to install voicemeeter back to just verify this

[desert salmon]

the volume

[warm scarab]

the 500 devices it adds are not welcome

[desert salmon]

got it thanks

[civic beacon]

What, you don't want to tell Windows you'd like to use audOut1(auxIN2(audOutAux3(Headphones)))? Only to find out one of those 4 inputs completely break the chain of what you're trying to do? 😄

[warm scarab]

crazy right

[desert salmon]

now if i close banana, will that fuck everything up @warm scarab

[warm scarab]

you minimize it to tray

[civic beacon]

Vincent makes some pro-level recording gear, but um... yeah it's complicated.
https://vb-audio.com/mt128/MT128pro.htm

[desert salmon]

should i have it where it opens on launch

[warm scarab]

yes

[civic beacon]

Minimize to tray. Voicemeeter must be running to route audio.

[warm scarab]

you will have no audio until it opens btw

[warm scarab]

explore that menu page fluenza

it has very good options

[desert salmon]

done. thank you

[desert salmon]

yep thanks

finally

[civic beacon]

If you get REALLY fancy, you can also use it to EQ things how you like. (Right-click to open the EQ editor, regular click to toggle EQ on/off. This is done on a per-output basis.)

[desert salmon]

oh yea i hear you can bass manage with eq

can i do that here

dsp software tuning

[warm scarab]

yes

just click the eq button above whatever output you want to edit

[desert salmon]

oh ok got it. i’ll have to check it out

[warm scarab]

this is actually a really good opportunity since you can eq your sub and speaker separately

[desert salmon]

i use peace apo for my headphones

[warm scarab]

which you couldn't in a normal passthrough setup

[warm scarab]

yea its the same thing just different ui

[desert salmon]

got it

now i need to tune my sub

delay phase

[desert salmon]

hey @warm scarab if i wanted to listen to my speakers while talking to someone and hearing them via headphones, is that possible

when i call someone, im only hearing them through speakers

[warm scarab]

uh

[desert salmon]

even when i turn it off in banana

[warm scarab]

if you output discord to voicemeeter input instead of voicemeeter aux

then output voicemeeter output to headphones

then you will get discord audio on your headphones only

and rest of the desktop from speakers

[desert salmon]

ok

[desert salmon]

where do i do that

in banana?

[warm scarab]

yes

[desert salmon]

uh

[warm scarab]

to whatever output your headphones are at

a1 a2 a3

[desert salmon]

wait

voice meeter input for the output device

then in banana, i go do drop down menu

[desert salmon]

oh

[warm scarab]

also disable b1 there

[desert salmon]

so if i click a3 for headphones, only headphones will output sound for calls

[warm scarab]

whatever you output to "Voicemeeter Input"

[warm scarab]

and whatever you enable at "Voicemeeter Input"

goes out to whatever that output has

unironically solving this would take 2 seconds

but you should do this by yourself

[desert salmon]

yea im trying to trobleshoot

a bit confusing

[warm scarab]

if sound will come from voicemeeter input

and you want the voicemeeter input to output to headphones

what do you think should be on or off?

[desert salmon]

deselect a1

keep a3

[warm scarab]

yes

[desert salmon]

ok ill try that

it works

thanks lol

[warm scarab]

np

[desert salmon]

so if i wanted to listen to music on speakrs while talking in call, is that possbile

i assume so

ill tinker with it

[warm scarab]

right now it is?

thats exactly how it currently works

[desert salmon]

it is

yea

[desert salmon]

well, my subwoofer connected to the dac keeps flashing red on voice meeter bananas

cuts out all audio

[civic beacon]

Sounds like that DAC has stability problems. When a device flashes Red in Voicemeeter, that means something has caused it to "disconnect" from the computer's audio stack. (This is an oversimplification, but more or less means that audio device is unstable for one reason or another.)

[serene scaffold]

does getting audio interface improve your audio quality because of the driver?

[desert salmon]

damn yea it’ll randomly flash red

and restarting the dac helps

[haughty girder]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

BASICALLY at the beginning

he disabled his remote and ran a usb to optical converter to connect to the dac

atp who knows what else he did

[desert salmon]

my sub is playing vocals out of it even tho i set the crossover to 80hz

[desert salmon]

klaus, i’m stupid. i connected the splitters to the rca incorrectly. it’s supposed to be like this

i didn’t separate the channel s

the sound output works

i just have noise

[warm scarab]

[desert salmon]

if i use that usb filter you suggested, won’t that override the dac

how else can i get rid of ground noise

[lean grove]

im really surprised klaus hung on for 3 hours with tech support yesterday

[warm scarab]

turn off autostandby

[warm scarab]

had to commit

[lean grove]

sunk cost fallacy

[warm scarab]

yes

[desert salmon]

that’s not an issue anymore. how can i get rid of the faint static noise

[warm scarab]

is the static from the subwoofer

[desert salmon]

both

but i can’t hear it much from the sub

[warm scarab]

thought you didnt have static with optical

[desert salmon]

i’m getting a little ringing and static

[desert salmon]

currently using rca on both

until i get my 3.5 to rca for my sub

[warm scarab]

get a power purifier or another dac

only advice I can give you to solve usb noise issues

aside from moving it away from other electronics which you already tried

[desert salmon]

this topping dac is ass

what if i lower my monitors’ gain

and just raise the dac volume

why is a usb purifier 150 usd

[warm scarab]

that is normally how you use a dac yes

you keep the output and windows volume at 100%

then change the amplifier gain

[desert salmon]

ok yea cuz if i lower my actual monitors’ volume on the back panel, the noise decreases

is it fine to have noise

[warm scarab]

yes

[desert salmon]

great

are the rca isolators garbage

[warm scarab]

i dont think the issue is the rca

pretty sure its the usb

[desert salmon]

damn

[warm scarab]

do you have the power brick plugged in

[desert salmon]

yep

all on the same extension cord

[warm scarab]

why not connect the usb to optical to your pc

then connect optical to your dac

[desert salmon]

the power for the usb is in the tiny brick we talked about

[warm scarab]

you said that didnt have noise

[desert salmon]

i only have optical in

[warm scarab]

yes

i am saying instead of connecting it to your pc via usb

connect it to your pc via optical

[desert salmon]

ah, but it removes the remote

and it sounds terrible iirc

actually i don’t think it’ll sound terrible

[warm scarab]

i am not saying remove the dac mate

i am saying connect the dac to the pc with optical

everything is the same

its just instead of usb its a different cable between the pc and dac

[desert salmon]

i have a optical to usb, and it overrides the dac

[warm scarab]

wdym optical to usb

[desert salmon]

optical cable to usb

usb type a

[warm scarab]

i know usb to optical

but never heard of optical to usb

you are saying you have a dongle that takes in optical signal

[desert salmon]

yes

[warm scarab]

and makes it into a usb signal?

[desert salmon]

yes

[warm scarab]

wtf

send a picture of that thing

[desert salmon]

sure

[desert salmon]

i don’t have optical ports in my mobo tho

[warm scarab]

im saying why dont you just connect this to your dac instead

i dont get what the issue is

[desert salmon]

and connect that to my monitors?

wait

[warm scarab]

keep everything rca side of the dac same

mate like

unplug the fucking usb

plug in this instead to the dac

[desert salmon]

i did that

it overrides the dac lol

[warm scarab]

how is that possible

its connected to the dac

[desert salmon]

it’ll just say generic usb

idk how

[warm scarab]

yes

I know

who cares

it works

[desert salmon]

ok

[warm scarab]

its optical it doesnt have drivers

[desert salmon]

i’ll be locked to 16 bit

[warm scarab]

its just light moving in 1 direction

[warm scarab]

doesnt matter

[desert salmon]

so is my dac completely uselsss

do i still return

and get something way cheaper

[warm scarab]

you have 0 benefits from this dac

its noisy as fuck so it doesnt even do that right

[desert salmon]

funnily enough, i bought it for the low noise floor

[desert salmon]

what do u recommend

[warm scarab]

I don't know a modi maybe

[desert salmon]

i was gonna get a modi 3e

[warm scarab]

doesnt have a remote or anything

[desert salmon]

remote is junk anyways

i’d like a volume knob tho

[warm scarab]

use the computer's sound control

[desert salmon]

i guess it’s not as common in dacs

[warm scarab]

dacs dont have knobs

[desert salmon]

yea

[warm scarab]

unless they have an integrated amplifier

which makes it a dac amp

[desert salmon]

yep

[warm scarab]

get a usb knob or something and adjust volume digitally

[desert salmon]

is there an item where i can control the bass of the sub without bending over each time

i saw something by jbl

[warm scarab]

you could with voicemeeter in the previous setup

[desert salmon]

volume**

[warm scarab]

you cant in this

[desert salmon]

yea that was nice

[warm scarab]

you have it wired in parallel

[desert salmon]

i can always go back to it i guess

ok i’ll just get the modi then

i was gonna get that from the start

but i heard the topping was good

last time i trust audio science reviews

[warm scarab]

asr is a shit ass source

[desert salmon]

yea

[warm scarab]

noo this dac has 0.00001% less thd than the other one

who gives a shit

you cant hear that difference

[desert salmon]

lol yea

you can’t

[warm scarab]

most dacs people consider good do the opposite of what asr says

[desert salmon]

i’m pretty sure you can’t hear a difference if you used your mobo that was made in the last 10 years

[warm scarab]

they make the sound be nicer

which asr considers to be bad

because their measurement gear says its bad

[desert salmon]

i heard them mention music would sound punchy or boomy depending on the dac

that sounds so stupid

[warm scarab]

which who gives a shit about, if it sounds nice to the listener then it is nice

regardless of the measurement results

[desert salmon]

number #1 rule of audio, i feel

listen to your ears

[warm scarab]

when it comes to dacs yes

because its really hard to fuckup making a dac provided you buy the chips from someone else and throw it onto a pcb

if its an amplifier it can be ass because of poor implementation

or a headphone/speaker

[desert salmon]

i’ve had some cursed systems in car audio. my first car was an infiniti q50 with the bose. the soundstage was so weird and i was used to it. i tried the mark levinson in lexus and hated it because of the change in sound stage

[warm scarab]

those can be objectively trash, dacs too but like, the worst dac you can get at 100$ and the best you can get at 100$ is so close to one another its idiotic to make it an issue it that one doesnt measure well

[desert salmon]

so am i just paying for low noise floor

[warm scarab]

at that price kind of yeah

you are paying for a switchable input

a remote

a led screen

[desert salmon]

is it even worth getting the modi then

if i’m gonna use optical

[warm scarab]

its whatever

may or may not hear a difference

[desert salmon]

well i did hear the diff with the topping dac

a big

bit*

[warm scarab]

probably the different output volume

[desert salmon]

maybe

i can’t say for sure

[warm scarab]

cant make a reasonable comparison without volume matching using a db meter

[desert salmon]

didn’t do a blind test with matching db

i saw someone say placebo works

and it’s worth pursuing it if your brain thinks it’s better

even if it isn’t

do you agree with that sentiment

[warm scarab]

no

if you know its bullshit how can you even perceive it as good

takes being a special kind of dumbass

[desert salmon]

i guess it’s contingent on not knowing either way

not confirmable

also, is there a reason why my sub is playing vocals

is my low pass just not working

[warm scarab]

low ends of the vocals may be in the bass region

below the low pass

or the low pass isnt low pass enough

[desert salmon]

it’s high

a girl singing

i hear all the music

my lpf is 80hz

[warm scarab]

i think you are just tripping

[desert salmon]

i’m not

i turned my speakers all the way down and i can hear it

[warm scarab]

you probably have the low pass off

[desert salmon]

it’s on 80hz

[warm scarab]

there is nothing above 80hz there

[desert salmon]

it’s definitely coming out of the sub

[warm scarab]

thats literally the lows of the voice

[desert salmon]

ok wait let me show you

[warm scarab]

no mate I can hear it

thats 80hz

and those are voice lows

[desert salmon]

it’s a girl singing

[warm scarab]

yes

voice isn't like

a fixed frequency

its a spectrum

its normal

[desert salmon]

that’s not right

her voice is way above 80hz

it’s sending the full range to the sub

idk anymore

[lean grove]

@desert salmon What does the rear of your rythmik sub look like right now

with the RCA plugged in

[desert salmon]

i’ll send a pic

[lean grove]

if you turn the crossover knob counterlockwise towards 20hz does the female voice go away

[desert salmon]

nope

[lean grove]

weird

[desert salmon]

yea

i’m at my wits’ end

[lean grove]

the line-in should be sending full range to the sub, i think

thats standard.

but the crossover should be filtering it out

[desert salmon]

but the crossover should override

yea

[lean grove]

normally the LFE bypasses the crossover but you're not using that

[desert salmon]

yep

is there software i can use

[lean grove]

probably

i never fuck with software though

maybe REW?

[desert salmon]

honestly, i’m not using software for a faulty amp

this is ridiculous

i contacted the support, so i’ll see what they say

[desert salmon]

the volume of the vocals and stuff lowers, but it’s still present

[lean grove]

switch to the 24db slope

[desert salmon]

i did

[lean grove]

okay then idk.

[desert salmon]

it only lowered the volume of the vocals

didn’t completely remove

[steel escarp]

im buying susvara

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cake-cutting-cutting-kitty-gif-11810334948872627297

At this point it's just watching grey commit self harm.

[warm scarab]

susvaras are epic this might be the only grey decision I am not against

but its grey there has to be some plot twist and a punchline

maybe a lightning will strike his house and cook all of his electronics

[steel escarp]

only 3.5k

[warm scarab]

didnt you have a he1k

[steel escarp]

yes

he1k stealth

[warm scarab]

sold it?

[steel escarp]

still have it

rip the bot

@warm scarab are your messages being filtered?

[warm scarab]

yes

idk what compells you to buy susvara after having a he1k for so long and instead sucking dt880's private parts for so long

[steel escarp]

im literally wearing dt880s right now

[warm scarab]

yes

thats what I am saying

you are literally using the dt880 instead of he1k what makes you think susvara will be the gamechanger

[steel escarp]

he1k doesn't stay on my head the way I want it to when I watch a show while leaning back

[warm scarab]

and susvara does?

[steel escarp]

idk

I need to put an edition xs headband on susvara

the only good hifiman headband that works for when your posture is basically leaning back

love edition xs headband so much

but my head is so big I have trouble fitting most helmets

[warm scarab]

you could have done this for the he1k instead

[steel escarp]

susvara still has smoother treble than he1k

I tried to like LCD-5 so hard

tried EQing

but idk the treble sounds so dead

[livid ruin]

yes

[thorn cedar]

Rich faka

[lean grove]

Grey cheats by not owning a car and living in the walls between apartments

[thorn cedar]

Lol

[lean grove]

his cost of living is negative since he also rummages through their belongings and pawns off their silver

[frosty ocean]

So, I want to convert my DSF files to FLAC, but normally they're too quiet. How bad is this process?

1. Encode entire album to one 32(fixed point)@192KHz WAV file.
2. Import file into Audacity
   Choose "Amplify" and let Audacity tell me how much I can Amplify it before it clips.
3. Re-encode album as WAV tracks using that amplification.
4. Convert to FLAC

Damn....Slowhand needs +5dB