#audio-tech

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lean grove
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With more power you can also have more room for EQ if that's your jam.

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Like a $100 DAC amp might be indistinguishable from a $1000 DAC amp if you don't know what to listen for. So you can safely take the blue pill here and be happy with what you currently have.

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I know a handful of people with like, $10k audio systems that still have the APP2 as their main listening device because it's convenient and still sounds good.

warm scarab
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working fine doesn't mean working at its best

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if anything produces sound is sufficient for you then you don't need to purchase headphones that demand separate amp units to begin with

mighty forum
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So I was planning on taking apart soundbar, popping off long grill, painting it while making sure no holes pooled up paint. Turn black grill into something cute.

Someone suggested instead of using 'speaker fabric' although they don't know much about it. Something like this. https://www.contrado.com/custom-speaker-fabric-printing.

It says its 100% polyester. Is there something special about the weaving or spacing with this stuff as opposed to spare 100% polyester drapes I have laying around?

frozen robin
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dayton audio ps95-8 vs rs100-8 for surround speakers
or is there a better mid/fullrange under 40 USD
i do already have dayton audio DC28FT-8 tweeters

agile solstice
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Finished a new build for a virtual talking head show

lean grove
serene surge
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for content headphone users that don't do any critical listening, is it generally good to boost 0-500hz?

bright eagle
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What does boosting 0-500hz mean?

steel escarp
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Sound go brrrr

bright eagle
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Ahh i see

reef wagon
agile solstice
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We are pushing 4k HDR streams out of this rack

reef wagon
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Nice! I use one that pushes the limitations of our 8K for ultrawide LED walls.

frozen robin
chrome saddle
agile solstice
chrome saddle
agile solstice
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I do all the contribution to the show over zoom and up scale and transform the color space from there

digital trout
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Just bought a pair of XM4s as a New Year's gift to myself thanks to the fact I got some money for Christmas. Was considering Beats Studio Pro or open box XM5s, but all signs pointed towards the XM4s as the soundest investment (no pun intended).

bright mist
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what’s a good microphone i can pair with the Fiio FT1s?

bright eagle
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I think its very good for price to Performance If you got them fairly cheap

bronze python
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The auto anc on the XM5's is so bad

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The actual anc is amazing

bright mist
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or is there anything better I can use?

steel escarp
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@lean grove Arya Unveiled or SVS SB 1000 and MiniDSP Flex + MiniDSP UMIK-1

lean grove
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Go with the subwoofer and DSP

steel escarp
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speakers are objectively less detailed

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and room acoustics make it objectively worse

lean grove
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They are more engaging and present music in a more realistic way usually

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Like you keep throwing money at headphones and it's gonna be side grades and tradeoffs.

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You keep throwing money at speakers and they just keep getting better.

tacit garnet
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anyone know the best speaker i could get from drum and bass for around £300 (376 USD)

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I currently have the Harman Kardon Aura Studio 2

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and it has very good bass but im looking for something a little bit newer and when i stick the speaker on max volume the distortion makes the lyrics unhearable

royal crane
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Turtle beach stealth 600 gen 3 or Steelseries arctis nova 5

supple robin
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im assuming because their affordable wireless gaming headphones

royal crane
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Yeah I mean my budgets like 140-150

supple robin
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You can get a wireless one

livid ruin
royal crane
livid ruin
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it is but would you prefer better sound over lower latency?

royal crane
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Probably

bright mist
livid ruin
royal crane
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I mean what is considered good sound

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Like I tried the stealth 600s at Best Buy and they sounded fine

livid ruin
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no matter which youtuber tells you that the turtle beach / razer / logitech / steelseries / whatever gaming branded headsets have good sound, either they’re paid affiliates or likely ignorant, you usually don’t see the youtubers reviewing those headphones telling you they’re mediocre in sound as they’d lose sales in their affiliates or the deal with that company

livid ruin
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a good reviewer would say the sound of those is mediocre ((at best)) because they are

royal crane
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I mean, I haven’t tried $300 ones but I put on like the arctis pros

livid ruin
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those aren’t good either

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they’re just mediocre

royal crane
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Do wired ones have better sound quality for the same price?

livid ruin
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companies that focus on good audio usually don’t focus on 2.4ghz

royal crane
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Well, when I put on the stealth 600 I really liked how it felt on my head. Are there wired versions of those?

livid ruin
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a fair compromise is using bluetooth aptx, which still has decently high latency of ~200ms but better than the other codecs and companies with good audio do focus on bt more than on 2.4ghz

livid ruin
royal crane
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I’d need one with a built in mic since I play on pc and Xbox.

livid ruin
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i’ve had turtle beach headphone (the recon 200 gen 2) and i mean i did expect worse, but they were still bad, bq was okay

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they’re all tuned similarly

livid ruin
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because cheap mics are cheap

royal crane
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I mean I already have a blue yeti

livid ruin
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well, you can also get like in-cable mic if you necessarily need a headphones with a mic, no dedicated mic

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if it cannot be in-cable either then something like pc37x/pc38x

royal crane
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Okay thanks

agile solstice
bright mist
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Is the Audeze Maxwell better than the Fiio FT1s?

livid ruin
bright mist
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Fiio was thrown around, so were the Maxwells

livid ruin
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maxwell at $200 that’s good

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if you found a pair at that price

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@bright mist

bright mist
livid ruin
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that’s still decent

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at some point tho maxwells were $200

bright mist
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worth the extra cash

livid ruin
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if you want wireless sure

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it’s a proper 2.4ghz headset

lean grove
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if you dont need that and can live with wired, then get the FT-1

bright mist
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in terms of sound quality

lean grove
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they measure pretty similarly.

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ft-1 is gonna have better sub-bass by the looks of it, bit more midbass

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but the major difference i think youd notice is that the FT-1 is much lighter

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and is much cheaper

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a good chunk of the maxwell's price probably comes from all the extra tech crammed into it

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and software

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i cant really say much more since i havent heard the ft-1

bright mist
lean grove
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if you dont care about any of that, then theres no reason to get it over the FT-1

bright mist
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just need to find the best microphone setup under 100$

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anyone know if this is good?

bright mist
odd summit
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Do I need an amp for this
These headphones are just 50cents

bright mist
stiff fiber
stiff fiber
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didnt feel like going thru them hoops

bright mist
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anything you would recommend at the same price range

stiff fiber
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mostly because you get really good deals

bright mist
stiff fiber
bright mist
stiff fiber
stone quartz
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Why do some AV receivers have sheets of plastic clipped to them?

warm scarab
odd summit
stark mist
buoyant vale
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Yeah they look like they've been kicked down the street

mental shuttle
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Anyone had an issue where windows 11 adjusts microphone volume automatically

lean grove
knotty bobcat
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i can get a nearly not used bose 321 series ii for 40 bucks should i buy it?

knotty bobcat
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or should i go for LOGITECH Z533 2.1 speaker set? its for my tv for gaming in my bedroom

jolly sedge
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Any good headphones under the 100 euro/usd?

burnt frigate
jolly sedge
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And are there any good wireless headphones?

lean grove
cosmic wraith
signal badge
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any recs for some headphones 75-100 can got a little more. i have iems rn but i dont hear much differance from when i had headphones kinda open to anything willing to get iems again but something more durable (mine broke in 4 months)

fleet hollow
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Fiio JT1

ivory crown
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best flat response

livid ruin
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tune 710/720/760nc if bt

gusty scroll
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What mic should I get for my pc under $100?

livid ruin
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pretty sure not quadcast, unless you have vety limited options in your country

elder thistle
bright mist
tired crown
tired crown
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Q2u comes with a pop filter

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Get smth like an innogear mount

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They are cheap and good

glacial terrace
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Hello people. Has anyone here ever tried a physical audio mixer vs something like voicemeeter? If so what are the key differences(wondering if I should get a Fifine audio mixer or just get a virtual one)

gilded quiver
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Anyone big into microphones? Ive sorta had a problem with my Mic setup for awhile.
Most games I come across pretty quiet, same with discord Unless im eating the mic, and I prefer it to be up out of the way.

Im running a scarlett solo gen1 or 2, going to usb to my PC. then from the scarlett is an xlr to my MXL 990. I have the gain set to 75% (100% is just distorted, not necessarily LOUD, and the phantom power button on. Is it just a poor mic to be using for online games?

bright mist
haughty girder
light vault
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How good is the fifine am8 for streaming?

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I have one and for some reason it's muffled, I kinda need help.

gilded quiver
haughty girder
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Further away will ALWAYS be quiet

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your SNR exponentially drops as you get further from your mic

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Try getting the mic right at the corner of your mouth

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and make sure you're on the front of the mic

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MXL990 isn't particularly insensitive

gilded quiver
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I do, but it’s never super loud.

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I haven’t tried amplifying via VAC but I wasn’t sure if I should just get a different mic.

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Basically I want to be able to make comms like the guys with headset mics do, those guys never have a hard time being heard.

willow root
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would you notice the performance increase from a 1660 super to a rx 6600

wind oyster
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Hello all!

I hope there is a surround expert here. Got my setup going but seems to me somehow the bass gets lost along the way somewhere. Aside from the center all loudspeaker are able to handle the full range (amp was set to handle them as such), so im a bit of a loss. For example the scene in hellboy 2 where the elemental emerges from under the pavement i would expect some pretty heavy rumbling but i dont really feel anything.....

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(no sub)

buoyant vale
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You should probably get a sub if that is what you are after

wind oyster
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Well the two front loudspeakers have a ~25cm diameter (cone without the rubber on the outside) speaker in them so that shouldve been plenty for it......

buoyant vale
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that is not really how it works

wind oyster
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Well based on size alone one would think it is (pringles can for size reference):

buoyant vale
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It even has a graph there showing you the bass rolling off hard after 100hz

bright mist
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any good boom arms on amazon for the samson q2u?

shadow stag
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say i want to connect my yamaha psr-e473 to my iphone 13 mini, what should i use/need?

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either usb or audio jacks, do i need an audio interface for the latter despite the keyboard having one already?

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would be to record my busking for example if i were to do that, or any kind of portable gig featuring the keyboard

wind oyster
buoyant vale
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speakers are not just the drivers

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the enclosure is playing a large part too

wind oyster
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I know, but i also think that going from paper(/plastic) to carbon fiber will have an effect on that curve so its worth mentioning.

sonic cairn
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do you think IEMs like the Moondrop Chu2s can beat my Galaxy Buds2s ?
might buy one idk

steel escarp
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@lean grove the arya unveiled is another side grade

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I got the meze 105 with me on loan

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Arya unveiled still has the normal hifiman treble peaks btw

steel escarp
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Tho I do have to say that the arya unveiled is tame for a hifiman

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The plastic build also didn't speak to me

lean grove
steel escarp
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I'd probably take it over he1000v2 stealth for sound

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Not for build and looks

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The meze 105 is such an easy sell

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The comfort is so nice

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lmao my asymmetrical head doesn't fit the meze 105 properly

steel escarp
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I tried a lot of different cables today

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kinda weird how my forza audio cable somehow made a lot of headphones like way brighter

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for no reason

steel escarp
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DT880 with my EQ and mods is better than Meze 105

haughty girder
sonic cairn
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because that's the only realm in which the moondrops have a chance

haughty girder
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tbh

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if you need wired iems

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grab truthear gate

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if you don't need wired, just stick to your buds 2

bright mist
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any good boom arms on amazon for the samson q2u?
@lean grove

lean grove
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if you find something that doesnt have a desk clamp that looks like this you're probably good

tranquil spindle
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It might benefit from a sub though

noble axle
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my pair of ath m40x's is playing left channel only audio on both sides with right channel audio sounding crunchier (same thing vice versa) are they cooked?

lean grove
stone quartz
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Will it harm my AV receiver if I use it without any speakers connected?

lean grove
noble axle
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cable go brrrrr

steel escarp
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Meze 105 is an easy recommend

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It has some slight treble colorations, a bit of harshness around 4k, nothing too crazy tho.

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Imagine if sennheiser just made a hd6xx with extended bass and we could just default recommend it, on god

dawn seal
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Soes anyone have and recommendations for a wireless headset with a budget of £100

haughty girder
bold bolt
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is hyperx duo cast at 50$ worth it to buy?

paper current
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if I were to buy the DT 770 Pros 80 ohm, would I need an audio interface?

paper current
steel escarp
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you only need an audio interface if you have an xlr mic

paper current
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idk these terms

hearty spear
wind oyster
hearty spear
# wind oyster It might be passive but the loudspeaker itself is rated for 80/100W and it is ho...

I'm not bashing passive speakers, I have a 400 watt stereo, powering 5 passive speakers, and a separate 200w amp just for my subwoofer ... I like passive speakers ...

It's just due to the nature of the technology. Active speakers can include digital equalizer from the factory to boost lacking frequencies. Passive speakers usually have rolloff by design so they don't become muddy, and there aren't really any that are suitable for home cinema without sub.

wind oyster
# hearty spear I'm not bashing passive speakers, I have a 400 watt stereo, powering 5 passive s...

So its similar to mine (5x80W, sa-he70), minus the sub (dont have room for it).

Eh, im not a fan of the new stuff that gets produced nowadays. The relative who rebuilt the loudspeakers (HS501, HS288) i have took apart his pair of jumo and sony loudspeakers (that he bought around 2010). Thin wires inside with no proper crossover (it had a few components directly soldered onto wires but it was a far cry from the proper thing).

hearty spear
# wind oyster So its similar to mine (5x80W, sa-he70), minus the sub (dont have room for it)....

I have three 1980s JPW p1 up front, just because I love the sound so much ... I use one as center channel as well... (managed to buy just one, because the other in the set broke)

I would get matching rears if I could find some reasonably priced. They are getting pretty sought after. People like 'em. For good reason.

The wood enclosure was apparently built in an english prison by prisoners, they have a cool story :D

I have had friends over who appreciate sound, and it never dissapoints. I have had guesses that it cost 10x what I paid...

It's a cheap audio system, just a few hundred freedom bucks, but it sounds very clean.

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They need a sub though... hard roll off at ~ 70hz...

wind oyster
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No wonder. That bottom speaker pulls double-duty for mid and low, and it doesnt have the size to push enough air for the real lows.

wind oyster
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For my case i think a +10 dB on the eq 60 Hz slider will do the trick.

scarlet dune
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Hi i am looking for a new headset because my old one broke.
My budget is 350 Dollars US
I will be using it for Gaming and Music.

unique vault
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Are these worth anything

quaint nexus
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ive been looking at making a 3.1 speaker setup to watch movies on, but im struggling a little on how to actually find stuff cos i want to do it on the cheap buying used stuff. issue being finding suitable devices is very difficult as im not an audiophile so not payed much attention to it through the years.
Seemingly the same speakers specs wise can have vastly different quality, so how do i tell the difference?

lean grove
terse river
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hey guys, im looking for speakers of a quality of around the Elac DBR62

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i dont really know much about speakeers, just know these are a fine piece of kit

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anyway im just asking for other ones like it so i can just sit my ass on ebay until one goes down in price significantly and scoop it up

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or if somebody could ig tell me how to identify a speaker of similar quality?

livid ruin
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you may get a solid $50+ from selling that card to a collector

weak kraken
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incredibly strange update: so for over a year now my PS5 was unusable with my audio interface because there would be this horrendous ground feedback loop

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i just unplugged everything in my audio interface and plugged it back in because i had to make room for a monitor arm installation

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and suddenly the ground feedback loop is gone

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i

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don't understand.

haughty girder
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probably wasn't a feedback loop

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I'm guessing you had a cable running over a power cable and it was picking up interference

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you unplugged and moved it

weak kraken
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it was exactly that

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but for some reason muting the PS5's channel stopped it before

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maybe because one of the PS5's cables was touching it or something

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it happens when my second monitor's power cable touches the cables of this tiny little monitor i use to display info from my PS1 CD player

odd rune
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hi i need new wireless headphons for my pc anybody who has experience my buget is 150

livid ruin
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or 2.4ghz?

odd rune
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ye prbl 2.4

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more for gaming

odd rune
odd rune
livid ruin
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so 2.4ghz?

odd rune
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yes

livid ruin
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like g435 or nova 5 or nova 7 if same price as nova 5, i’d not spend more

odd rune
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okey

odd rune
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he likes th nova 5x

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ty

pulsar crest
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hey there, is anyone familiar with audio setups? i make youtube videos and im struggling with setting up my microphone to a audio mixer, and just tad bit little things (having my speakers working on different faders... etc)

sorry if this isn't the right place to ask :')

ripe flame
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my headset just died on me 😭 , any suggestions for good ones? I had the CQ bose headset. used wired one for gaming and could just use bluetooth for studying n that kinda stuff

weak kraken
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just curious about exploring my options, but what are some good desktop speakers? preferably low-profile enough to avoid getting clipped by my monitors when i move them

weak kraken
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idk, i guess max $300

bright mist
terse river
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i find that on alibaba things tend to be legit

tired crown
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It’s prob not

bright mist
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where do i get the fiio ft1s then

tired crown
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Wait maybe that is real

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Drop sells them

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That would be legit

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The Ali link might be legit

bright mist
bright mist
terse river
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crazy

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aliexpress is like wholesale amazon

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i would trust most things on that website

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if its a name product, its usually gonna be legit

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and they take returns as well

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they have a returns policy like almost as good as ebay (im pretty sure, just skimmed google bc ive never needed to return anything)

terse river
warm scarab
warm scarab
bright mist
warm scarab
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I meant across the entire seller

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Not specifically the headphones

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And the seller rating

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In any case its likely to be legit

warm scarab
terse river
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exactly

bright mist
warm scarab
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Yeah go for it lol

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Legit as it gets

bright mist
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i mistyped

warm scarab
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still ok

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go for it

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ali has good consumer protection

lean grove
# weak kraken idk, i guess max $300

For small speakers, iLoud micro monitors and vanatoo T0 are some of the best options.

But if you're okay with watermelon sized speakers, JBL lar305p and Kali lp6 are also very good.

quiet ice
haughty girder
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coming from someone who's dropped a few thousand on Aliexpress

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seller looks good

silent ivy
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For

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Brain

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Rot

bright mist
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unless it sounds completely garbage

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like i’ve bought some clone airpods out of curiosity

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some of them were actually decent

crude sail
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Best use for a old Home Cinema, only really anoying thing is the fan that turns on sometimes and it's a bit noisy, just replace it with a noctua and rocks, and cheaper than a new set of 2 small speakers !

warm scarab
agile solstice
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Found this on twitch, very interesting daily show about audio and video technology

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OfficeHoursGlobal

gusty spruce
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well suppose i'm looking for closed back headphones with more robust and stronger headphone slider and bracket with a removable cable

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i have pair of srh8440's that ive head to repair the slider with superglue and black electrial tape

gusty spruce
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they look nice

steel escarp
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happened to my unit too

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I already prepared the guy I sold it too

steel escarp
lean grove
steel escarp
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huh for real?

lean grove
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Yes.

steel escarp
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how do I get one

lean grove
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Contact fiio support

steel escarp
lean grove
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Contact fiio support

gusty spruce
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dt 700 pro x or ft 1

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hm

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dt 700 pro x i can get like new for 145 off amazon

steel escarp
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huh that cheap?

gusty spruce
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plus it is rtings best upper mid range headphones

steel escarp
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are you sure its not the 770?

gusty spruce
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oh

steel escarp
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dt 700 pro x for 145 is a steal, it usually costs 250

gusty spruce
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its the 770 pros

steel escarp
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oh

gusty spruce
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whats the difference

steel escarp
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770 pro is like 20 years old

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and the tuning is šŸ’€

gusty spruce
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700 pro off amazon used is 179

steel escarp
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that is still very good

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I'd go german build quality over chineese any day of the week

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700 pro x also sounds smoother

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less fatiguing

gusty spruce
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ill get them when i can

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i did them new for like 177

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but yea

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probably go for the 700 pro x

long thorn
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Alright so i just bought a new headset, and im trying to figure out why the sound quality is so bad(i use steelseries sonar as my output device). Every time i go to the "Recording" tab in windows sound control panel, the audio goes really muffled and bad.

long thorn
steel escarp
long thorn
steel escarp
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did it ever sound not muffled?

long thorn
steel escarp
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maybe you have some "spatial enhancement" enabled

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you could try completely uninstalling Steelseries Sonar

long thorn
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ok

long thorn
steel escarp
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I can imagine

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it was probably "enhancing" the sound in a way that made it actually worse

long thorn
steel escarp
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Razer has their own software

long thorn
steel escarp
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yes

long thorn
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And i have a Blue Yeti Nano Microphone, do you recommend i use that as my input device or the headset mic?

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And is the software called "Synapse" or "Synapse 3"

steel escarp
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just listening to some sound tests

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it sounds 20x better than whatever razer could possibly put on a headset

long thorn
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Perfect

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Im gonna go put the dettachable mic they gave back in the box

steel escarp
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oh yeah I confirmed it

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the stock mic is šŸ’€

long thorn
steel escarp
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please don't enable any sound enhancements within the razer app

long thorn
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What do you recommend i do?

steel escarp
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if you can reduce the frequencies between 5kHz and 11kHz by like 3dB that'd be great

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bass already seems to be plentifull by default on the headphone so I wouldn't boost it, it would make things more muddy

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saw this image on google

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if it lets you, just turn 8kHz down by like 3dB

long thorn
steel escarp
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I mean, doesn't discord let you adjust the sensitivity of what it picks up

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I'd focus on fine tuning that

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settings -> voice & video -> change input sensitivity

long thorn
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What do you recommend i put for the DB

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or is it different for everyone

steel escarp
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can you send a screenshot of the software?

long thorn
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should i test it out

long thorn
steel escarp
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yes

long thorn
steel escarp
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oh you were talking about mic sensitivity

long thorn
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yeah

steel escarp
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you see this little bar jumping left to right when you type and speak

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test how much it goes to the right when typing, by spamming shift for example

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and just put it so that the white handle is just about outside of it

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you can confirm it still picks up your speach by making sure it goes past the white handle if you talk

steel escarp
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the amount of decibels itself is not important

long thorn
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but thats with like basking my keys

steel escarp
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put it where its good for you

long thorn
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should i turn it on

steel escarp
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turn it on

long thorn
steel escarp
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yeah

long thorn
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which 1

steel escarp
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it works surprisingly well

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hmm I seem to have standard on

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I think it lets you test it

hidden pendant
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damn i just got a wild deal

warm scarab
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is that a broken hinge in the top right picture lmao

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gl getting a replacement for a dust cover for a vintage sony tt

hidden pendant
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Dust cover is like 200

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But the turntable is usually 500-700

warm scarab
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what the fuck

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why would you pay that much for a turntable

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If it was a cartridge then yeah sure

hidden pendant
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And the headshell for the cartridge is worth 200 since it's specifically made for that turntable šŸ’€

warm scarab
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But its just a thing that spins a disk

hidden pendant
#

and you can get a remote for it which is nice

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Even tho the remote is 300...

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More clear picture

warm scarab
hidden pendant
#

Nah it uses a specific remote

warm scarab
#

Also you can probably get a dust cover custom made cheaper than buying a second hand one

hidden pendant
#

uses an adapter and a wired remote

warm scarab
#

Wait what

hidden pendant
#

It's not IR

warm scarab
#

This thing is the antichrist of customer friendliness

hidden pendant
#

That one also links it to the matching cassette deck

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And you have to have the cassette deck to use the remote

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That's another 500

warm scarab
#

I think you can make do without

hidden pendant
#

I do want the deck

warm scarab
#

Its a casette deck

hidden pendant
#

gonna wait until one shows up for cheap

warm scarab
#

You could rationalize every purchase here

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Aside from that

hidden pendant
#

cassettes sound great

warm scarab
#

Thats bs

hidden pendant
warm scarab
#

Complete waste of money

hidden pendant
#

they sound better than u would expect if you get a good deck

warm scarab
#

Yeah

#

Still worse than a spotify stream

#

Vinyls I get but casettes I draw the line

hidden pendant
#

eh a nakamichi dragon is probably better than spotify

#

That's about 3k šŸ—£ļø

warm scarab
#

Thats more the amp and less the tape part

hidden pendant
#

I enjoy cassettes

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8 track is where I draw the line for tape

prime minnow
#

Sony ES gear is typically pretty nice

inner basin
#

dolby atmos is amazing and all but it sounds awful on 50 dollar headphones......

full quest
#

What else do you expect from 50 dollar headphones tho kekw

inner basin
#

theyre 550 dollars but they actually sound worse than my brothers hd280 pros

#

hd280 is 80 dollarydoos ! 😁

warm scarab
paper current
#

Audio Technica M40X or DT 770 Pros (80 ohm) for gaming and music

buoyant vale
#

neither?

paper current
buoyant vale
#

do you really need closed backs?

paper current
buoyant vale
#

unless your sharing a room with someone then its really not an issue

paper current
buoyant vale
#

you don't share a bedroom with your parents right?

paper current
#

dear they can literally hear it 😭

#

using hs80 max rn

fossil zinc
#

I cant use open backs either my pc setup is at the opposite end of the house I use extreme near field setup so I don’t disturb others. I only really use headphones in the car or living room generally when others are present. My biggest issue lately is my family feels ignored. Just trying to tune out the current what’s on tv.

ripe flame
#

is bose quiet comfort a good choice for gaming and use outside of the house? I have a older pari, QC 35 I think. And they had insane audio, and worked well for both gaming and gym, studying and so on. Now im just trying to figure out if there is a clear better alternative

terse river
#

Quiet comfort is nice for outside of home, idk for gaming

#

They are quite expensive though and I think there are better options for cheaper

warm scarab
#

and the bandwidth of bluetooth is too low to reasonably use the headphones and the mic at the same time

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without downsampling it to a laughable rate

paper current
warm scarab
#

get cloud 2

elder thistle
#

k361 mentioned for gaming

elder thistle
paper current
elder thistle
#

also which games

paper current
#

rust siege cs

paper current
elder thistle
#

er

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probably m40x is safe, though I only have half an m40x

#

have a whole m50x though

paper current
#

snapped in half?

elder thistle
#

no

paper current
elder thistle
#

I got it as for parts on ebay and tried to fix it

paper current
#

oh

elder thistle
#

but it wasnt the soldering so I couldnt do it

paper current
#

lmao

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i have hs80 max rn but idk its mid

elder thistle
#

one thing with the m40x and m50x is the earpads are kinda shallow

#

if it ends up bothering you there are lots of 3rd party earpads

paper current
#

m40x is like 10€ cheaper

#

than 770s

#

m50x is 50€ more than m40x

inner basin
warm scarab
#

its just an algorithm

#

trying to "enhance" sound

#

you roll a dice and see what the AI decides to shit out

#

its not like regular atmos where you need to pay 15k for a speaker setup to listen to

#

you have 2 drivers in your headphones, cant really break the laws of physics

inner basin
#

this sounds fantastic on my meze 109s

warm scarab
#

great!

#

?

inner basin
#

and it’s not just an algorithm unless everything I’ve been told has been completely wrong LOL

#

it’s Dolby Atmos for Headphones which is like a different standard or some shit

warm scarab
#

yes

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chief

#

what do you think dolby atmos is

inner basin
#

an audio format which uses phasing and funny tricks to allow for more channel placement in audio tracks

warm scarab
#

how many drivers do you have in your headphones

inner basin
#

i am 99% sure the ai buzzword is not allowed to be taped onto atmos lol

warm scarab
#

I don't think you are getting surround sound

warm scarab
inner basin
#

IEMs also have multiple drivers sometimes

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not sure how they fit more than one in there

warm scarab
#

bro

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meze 109

inner basin
#

yeah 1 on each side

warm scarab
#

yes not 6

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lmao

#

its literally just an algorithm baked eq filter

#

some group delay here and there for icing

inner basin
#

it’s just more channels bro

lean grove
#

@inner basin Atmos for headphones isn't anything special. But yeah you're right it depends on the mix on how good it's implemented.

But it doesn't really do much. It doesn't add any information.

warm scarab
#

you cannot magically add channels to your headphones

inner basin
warm scarab
#

look at the cable's jack

inner basin
warm scarab
#

3 possible channels you can send information through

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1 is the ground

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so thats 2

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left and right

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tip is left +
middle is right +
bottom is ground

inner basin
#

wish deadmau5 remastered old albums in atmos

warm scarab
#

realest

vast ferry
#

Tip for surround sound if you’re poor, grab a couple radios and put it in your room!

#

Get a crappy old one for bass and some off of Amazon for mid to high

ripe flame
#

since

#

my motherboard doesnt support bluetooth anyways

vivid kelp
#

I actually havent listened to logitech speakers in a while, I have a set of z533s set up out in the garage, they sounded better to little me many years ago than they do now lol

#

Very good subwoofer though volume wise

#

Not much in the way of detail tho...

#

I keep debating a set of 305p mk2s for my desk then remember I dont have the room for them 😭

gusty spruce
#

im pretty sure thats not real surrond sound

elder thistle
#

its entirely possible to simulate this on headphones

warm scarab
#

and receive sounds from like 360 different angles

elder thistle
#

these channels are real on the pc and allows 7.1 audio to be streamed, but through a renderer that simulates 7 point sources in 3d space within stereo

warm scarab
#

not to mention our ears aren't the only places we react to sound from

elder thistle
#

what does that mean

warm scarab
#

your entire body can react to vibrations

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not every frequency but particularly bass

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Your head shakes, your body shakes and you notice it

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This is the reason most people in the speaker community often say "speakers are a full body experience" as opposed to headphones strictly stimulating your ears

elder thistle
#

I mean thats speakers vs headphones yes

#

thats not a definition of 7.1

warm scarab
#

And what is atmos meant for

#

surround speaker systems lmao

#

and atmosā„¢ļø sound which is a fancy delay filter on top of an audio track

elder thistle
#

"dolby atmos for headphones" is the product name

warm scarab
#

some reverb, resonance, recessed mids

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voillah

elder thistle
#

within dolby access

warm scarab
#

and its exactly what I said

elder thistle
#

this is not misuse of the software becayse it wont work for speakers

warm scarab
#

fancy filters

#

yeah

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chief like

#

the realistic version of atmos is for speaker systems

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other version is a glorified filter

#

im not sure what there is to debate

elder thistle
#

it works

warm scarab
#

works 100% of the time 30% of the time

#

more often than not its like a subpar version of running izotope ozone on automatic present lmao

elder thistle
#

it simulates 7.1 in a way that severely increases someones sense of direction and to some extent distance

pallid wind
#

Have there any worth while PC headsets to look out for from this year's CES? I've been shopping around lately for like $200.

elder thistle
#

not a property of traditional stereo audio

warm scarab
#

Like I said bro

#

Direction isnt exclusive to your ears

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You catch directional information regarding sounds on only higher frequencies

#

What about subs

#

Impossible to replicate

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Even low mids

#

Group delay isn't omnipotent either

elder thistle
#

these are identified by coexisting with upper mids and treble

warm scarab
#

How come you use different headphones and they have wildy varying degrees of being able to replicate the delay in measurement

warm scarab
#

if i out a subwoofer on the floor I can feel it up to my crotch

elder thistle
#

bass and low mids

warm scarab
#

I cant on a headphone

#

What kinda fkin headphones can vibrate your entire body

#

Skullcrushers?

elder thistle
#

the floor vibrating is an interesting point in terms of sense of direction

warm scarab
#

No not the floor

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We are talking about atmos

#

Ceiling, floor

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Back

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Left right

#

All these can produce most frequencies

#

Subs are more omnidirectional but go higher to mids and they are going to be perceived different

elder thistle
#

like its not sound at that point and the only information is "down" because of the gradient in forces from the feet to the waist, but that observation will still usually be accurate to jydge that the sub is somewhere on the floor

warm scarab
#

Yes?

#

Im not sure what the counterpoint is

#

If its on the floor you perceive it from the floor

#

If its on the ceiling you perceive it from there

ripe flame
#

so is it ok to use the bose headset, for gaming if I juse a cord, to make a connection? THat is what I have been doing

warm scarab
#

Which bose

warm scarab
#

Lol

#

Give me a few mins im outside

ripe flame
#

all good g, take your time

warm scarab
#

I'd leave it at "its ok" honestly

#

Nothing outstanding nothing straight up unusable either

#

and I couldn't really recommend something over it either, foreign market to me

ripe flame
#

ok I see

#

Seems like you have something on your mind. What would be dthe difference between this headset im planning to buy, and a "gaming headset"?

warm scarab
#

gaming headsets are kind of a meme too

ripe flame
#

XD

warm scarab
#

normally you get uhh

#

""music"" headphones

#

"""""audiophile""""" headphones

#

and complain how other headphones arent like those

ripe flame
#

haha

warm scarab
#

but you want a use case of both outdoors and indoors

#

which is like, not really fitting to compare to the music headphones category

#

and the qc isnt really bad enough to complain

ripe flame
#

well i find headsets to be quite expensive, not that I dont have the money for it. But I just look at it at a value perspective

warm scarab
#

yeah I get you

#

you wouldn't really get something strictly better in terms of the gaming space

#

might for audiophile space but that would be exclusive to indoors so not really comparable

ripe flame
#

yeah I used to have the zenheiser, something something. I think that is what it is called

warm scarab
#

sennsheiser lol

#

yeah

ripe flame
#

haha

#

that was kinda dope.

warm scarab
#

idk qc fits both of the shoes you have so not a bad investment despite not being outstanding for indoors

ripe flame
#

yeah, ill get it then. Cause I noticed a huge difference between the bose I have now, an then my sisters, it had no base, it was a B&O

warm scarab
#

qc35 may be a bit better

#

if its not too much more expensive

ripe flame
#

think it was rougly the same, Bose might have been cheaper tbh.

#

but for, indoors would you recommend a sennsheiser?

warm scarab
#

its like

#

most headphone companies have like

#

3-4 headphones worth buying

#

and 20 shit ones

#

sennheiser is also like that

#

there are 2-3 headphones id recommend from them but the brand is overall kinda shit

#

6xx is okay ig

#

hd560s too

ripe flame
#

Bought em a while ago, when i was a wee little kid. Back when Ninja played with em

warm scarab
#

lol

warm scarab
#

for a kid dt990 arent the worst

#

they are better than gaming headphones but thats a pretty low bar

#

dont think you had it bad

ripe flame
#

nah I was chilling

warm scarab
#

yeah those are pretty ok

ripe flame
#

But if you had to get a gaming headset, what would you get?

#

literally broke my eims cause I kept walking away with them in my ears. They had like 50cm cord or something XD

full quest
#

theyre no longer manufactured and thats why the prices for new ones are pretty high. probably remaining stock or sth which gets sold for way too high prices

#

probably theres a newer "generation" of QC model available already, I bought them early 2023

livid ruin
#

under €100, are they bad or garbage in your eyes

warm scarab
#

nova 7 is like

#

ok

#

i dont remember 5

livid ruin
#

tuning wise

elder thistle
#

there is a lot more to hrtf than eq. differences in eq, differences in phase and longer delays, differences in volume

#

plus other things that serve as icing, but to some extent are very complex modeling like the behavior of a real room

#

someone saying it's just eq is like saying a popular singer's voice is eq

inner basin
#

how the hell could it ever be eq

#

i dont understand that lol

#

where that comes from

#

i've only watched 1 video on hrtf so i dont remember a lot about it

elder thistle
#

the direction and distance a sound hits someone's ears from results in many changes. if we look at just one ear and ignore a bunch of other phenomenon, one of those is the tone of the sound

inner basin
#

thats true

#

lots of people hate atmos just cuz it's "quieter"

#

its funny

#

just turn yo headphones up its not that hard

elder thistle
#

that'd be difficult for someone running a 250r beyer off of a dongle though

inner basin
#

i wanna try atmos on my car system when its done

inner basin
#

it worked on my crappy factory radio LOL

tawny pawn
#

Does anyone have any recommendations on headsets? My old one is slowing falling apart and I’m looking for a new one. I was looking at the G735 but it has some mixed reviews

ripe flame
tawny python
#

Linkbuds S for 30€ or Buds2 for 30€?

#

Ecosystem doesnt make a difference cause i use a oneplus

molten lotus
#

hi i need something for my ps5

#

but im unsure what to buy

river pine
river pine
warm scarab
#

dont just join the outputs of 2 different analog items

#

you are going to cook one of the amplifiers

warm scarab
#

you plug in the pc to another input

#

you plug headphones to output

river pine
#

so my switch is pluggged via 3.5mm jack, line-in to my pc, my headphones hear the audio from both my switch and windows

#

thats my current setup

warm scarab
#

my bad

#

still your line in isn't designed for that, a mixer would help

#

you are double amping the audio essentially

#

lowering the volume of the switch could help

river pine
#

lowering the volume of anything makes it impossible to hear my switch's audio

#

there is buzzing from the ac-in cable

#

but im not sure how to avoid that as the switch doesn't display from the dock without it being plugged in, with the official nintendo plug

#

the hdmi is fine but then if i use the hdmi alone as the sound from my switch, there is no way of getting that to my headphones as my headphones r bluetooth and the sound into my monitor is hardware side

warm scarab
#

you dont have this static when you plug in your headphone directly to the switch right

left verge
#

Are there any gains with messing with the equalizer that is built into android?

warm scarab
#

no its pretty bad

river pine
#

the 3.5mm cable is plenty fine, all of my setup is plugged into a mains purifier

warm scarab
#

mate

#

just answer please

#

what happens if you plug in the ac to your switch

#

and headphones to the switch

#

do you still have the static

left verge
river pine
#

my headphones r bluetooth, i cant wire them to my switch

warm scarab
#

try another pair

#

something to test with

#

your phone's earbuds or something if you have any

river pine
#

brb gonna have to hunt down something with a 3.5mm jack on it, almost our entire headphone/earphone collection is either wireless or doesnt have a 3.5mm jack

river pine
warm scarab
#

yeah

#

issue is double amping

#

a mixer would very likely solve this

#

or introducing impedance to the input of your line in maybe

river pine
warm scarab
#

find what the cheapest behringer mixer is

#

its should be ok

river pine
#

And how will it help? Sorry I’m unfamiliar with audio tech

warm scarab
#

you are amplifying an already amplified audio signal

#

which causes the buzzing

warm scarab
#

no not a headphone mate

#

a mixer

river pine
warm scarab
#

oh

river pine
#

it was that massive link but idk how to shorten that one

warm scarab
#

there are two different products in that picture

#

one of them would do it

#

other wouldn't

river pine
warm scarab
#

because

#

ok

river pine
warm scarab
#

because there is like 9 kilo ohm input resistance on those

#

there is like maybe 1/1000 of that on your motherboard line in

#

those aren't meant to receive amplified signals

river pine
#

and the mixer would...

warm scarab
#

have the high input resistance

#

like I have said

#

for like the 4th time now

river pine
#

so the line-in port on my mobo would be able to handle it better so there would be no buzzing but the raw audio from the switch would still be there

warm scarab
#

you said your headphone doesnt buzz with the ac plugged in

#

that only leaves out a mismatch between your motherboard input and the switch output

#

for your noise issue

river pine
warm scarab
#

one with more inputs

#

may need 3.5 to 6.3 adapters idk the inputs of those

river pine
#

What’s causing the double amp? @warm scarab

#

Where is each ā€œampā€

warm scarab
#

in your switch

#

and in your motherboard

#

one is meant to receive an unamplified signal

#

oen is meant to output an amplified signal

river pine
#

I’m assuming that can’t be done software side

warm scarab
#

no

river pine
#

Is a mixer the way to ā€œun ampā€ or ā€œde ampā€ it then (sorry if I’m being difficult I’m tryna get my head around this)

warm scarab
#

its a chip in your motherboard

river pine
#

So the mixer would plug in where?

warm scarab
#

output of switch

#

to mixers input

#

output of your computer

#

to mixers other input

#

output of mixer to your headphones/speakers

#

oh wait

river pine
#

It’s Bluetooth headphones

warm scarab
#

you have bluetooth

river pine
#

Yeah

warm scarab
#

there are solutions to that but it may be stupid

river pine
#

Go on

warm scarab
#

its too expensive

#

to be rational

#

im trying to think of a way

#

a usb mixer may be able to do it ig

#

or actually

#

maybe you can get an usb c to 3.5 dongle

river pine
#

While still having my switch output its display via the docks hdmi out?

warm scarab
#

i dont know

#

thats a switch question

#

I cant think of a way you could do this

#

maybe an audio interface would work

river pine
warm scarab
#

a behringer um2

river pine
warm scarab
#

you could get a behringer um2

#

connect it to your pc

#

hope that one of the inputs wont have a buzzing issue

#

then use voicemeeter banana to output that to your headphones with bluetooth

river pine
#

That doesn’t sound foolproof

#

I feel like something could go wrong

#

Especially ā€œhope that one of the inputs doesn’t buzzā€

warm scarab
#

you could just return it

river pine
warm scarab
#

no

tawny pawn
#

I’m tryna get a new headset, any recommendations?

river pine
warm scarab
#

yes

#

if you configure it correctly

river pine
#

I’m tryna mush 2 outputs to my Bluetooth headphones which apparently is much easier said than done 😭

warm scarab
#

divine punishment for being a wireless user

warm scarab
tawny pawn
river pine
#

Well ur gonna hate me if u find out what headphones im using

river pine
warm scarab
tawny pawn
warm scarab
#

how much is 200 cad in usd

river pine
warm scarab
#

strictly headset

#

or is headphone + mic ok

tawny pawn
#

Uh well I don’t have space for a mic

#

So

#

Mostly likely headset

lean grove
#

oh brother not this guy again. has klaus been giving advice again?

#

unbelievable

warm scarab
#

oh hi nils

#

this guy is like the local

#

uh

#

built different person

tawny pawn
#

What

lean grove
#

just because i've got a weird body to leg length ratio doesnt mean im "built different" im just harder to knock over

tawny pawn
#

šŸ’€

lean grove
#

anyways. has the pc38x been recommended yet

warm scarab
#

no

#

i was hitting him up with "you mind headphones"

#

hadnt gotten there yet

lean grove
#

classic technique

tawny pawn
#

This is kinda strange

warm scarab
#

just get the pc38x

#

this isnt an advice anymore its a threat

#

provided you dont share your room with anyone

#

because pc38x leaks

tawny pawn
#

400 dollars is wild

warm scarab
#

its like

#

120 usd

tawny pawn
#

Huh

#

Isn’t it this

warm scarab
#

yes

tawny pawn
#

Yeah it says it’s 386

#

That’s about 400 dollars

warm scarab
#

if i sell my ps4 for 50000 dollars

#

does that make ps4 50000 dollars

#

look for another seller

tawny pawn
#

Walmart

#

425 dollars

warm scarab
#

@lean grove did pc38x stop getting produced or what

#

see how much pc37x costs

lean grove
#

PC37x did yes

#

im like 90% sure the pc38x is still in production

warm scarab
#

no I meant the pc38x

#

I said pc37x if pc38x wasnt available

tawny python
#

addicted

#

gonna buy this too

warm scarab
#

tf is the dawn pro

tawny python
#

mini usb dac

warm scarab
#

doesnt have a wire

#

cringe

tawny python
#

rn i just use the apple usb c adapter, but i have to use the uapp trick to get an actual volume out of it on my phone

#

and i have the m40x....

warm scarab
#

could get a cx dongle

tawny python
tawny pawn
tawny python
#

or what wire

warm scarab
#

oh

#

kind of a chonker

warm scarab
tawny python
#

and a usb c - type a adapter so i can use it in my pc!

warm scarab
#

thats actually golden

#

how much this thing costs again

tawny python
#

50€ new, 27€ used

#

reviews seem really good too

#

has a 4.4 output if i ever need it

tawny pawn
#

CAD

tawny python
#

gaming headsets arent the best, and logitech ones are one of the worst ones

#

if you really want a wireless gaming headset, then the cloud alphas should be good

warm scarab
#

20 usd maybe

warm scarab
#

not worth lmao

#

cx also comes with a usb A adapter

tawny pawn
warm scarab
#

you are certain there is no pc38x for a normal price right

tawny pawn
#

Indeed

#

Not that I’ve seen

#

Walmart has it on sale for 426

warm scarab
#

cloud 2

tawny python
warm scarab
#

fair

tawny python
#

though i use the m40x and its 35 ohms lol

tawny pawn
warm scarab
#

yes

tawny pawn
#

Is there anything better?

#

Because the mic is huge

lean grove
tawny pawn
warm scarab