audio-tech

[elder thistle]

I'm actually not sure if I prefer the zero reds or kz zs10 pro

the zero reds aren't as resolving and the bass is tighter on the kz's

kz's have far more microdetail

treble screwiness is about even and depends on the song

zero reds strike back with a bit of soundstage and partial imaging

but the midrange on the zero reds is ass

not dynamic, not detailed, not natural

[haughty girder]

Sooooo dynamic to you is bass that bleeds into the mids?

bass isn't tighter on the ZS10 Pro, it's louder

it also has more peaky treble which can create pseudodetail, not detail itself

ZS10 Pro is literally just vshaped

If you like the ZS10 pro's bass, consider trying out the Blon Z300

[elder thistle]

zero red isn't exactly smooth either in the treble, or perhaps the timbre just sucks

the zero reds are relatively tight but it's still overdone

tightness here probably comes down to better drivers

as for microdetail, thats got no association with peaks here. it's just an absurdly large difference

I notice the most new sounds in music on them compared to all other headphones and earbuds I've ever used. more than my adam monitors, more than hd600, more than mc450, more than edition xs, and more than ndh20. of course, those sounds are very degraded

maybe it stems from the large difference in sensitivity

[lean grove]

That's a product of tuning, not of the driver.

[oak gorge]

Hey ya'll, had a quick question I am looking for a good set of speakers for a basement house party I currently have speakers, but they are a bit too loud/big for smaller venues I have a being 15 inches per and 400-watt rms lol, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for a small speaker that can still be heard over a small crowd.

[lean grove]

How much do you wanna spend

[fresh basalt]

so, im looking at putting one of these under my monitors, facing me... either will fit, and either will be a huge upgrade to the creative pebbles i have now... is the £20 price difference, worth the sound difference between these? or, will they sound more or less the same https://www.amazon.co.uk/AZATOM-M3-Bookshelf-Bluetooth-Enclosure/dp/B0DCVTMDSL https://www.amazon.co.uk/AZATOM-EB100-Bookshelf-Acoustics-Enclosure/dp/B098TNS13Y

[steel escarp]

@lean grove the SMSL D6S dac is legitemately better than my ifi zen dac signature v2

for 2/3rd the price

SMSL is cooking with their dacs

some stuff that was a touch sibilant is no longer sibilant

everything stages bigger too

on the ifi dac everything sounded a bit more rounded/focused instead of spread out wider

[lean grove]

Get the vmv d1se

[steel escarp]

im broke after getting these speakers

[lean grove]

Its got terrible feet that will ruin your desk

[steel escarp]

yeah I saw

those feet are criminal

spiky feet enjoyers are weird

[haughty girder]

Oh shoot I just found an Amazon review of someone's who actually broke broke

[elder thistle]

fatality

[meager nexus]

Random question, but usually on which connector does the Subwoofer goes to?

Also, would a simple audio wired speaker set connect to this (at least temporarily)

Nvm figured out 🙂

[warm scarab]

definitely not the place that says subwoofer out

[meager nexus]

you just do your thing

and make people leave from the server

[rancid swift]

I know you have figured it out, but just to answer part of you question:
Sony active subs (well the ones I have), have terminals with an input and output, where you connect you two fronts to your sub, then use another set of cables out to the speakers. This is usually if your amp does not have a line-out. Otherwise for best performance and sound adjustment, using the line-out on the amp to your subwoofer is the best option. Also it extends the cable length, and your sub taking part of the power to the speakers for audio input. The cable needed for line-out is the RCA style cable, only needing one channel. This will connect to where the subwoofer out is on your amp, if it has one. Some amplifiers like yours and mine, have the options for 2 subs using line input.

Is this information helpful?

[meager nexus]

Absolutely you have been probably the most helpful on this server

[lofty lance]

Hi, is the nothing ear (a) the best for its price? I'm currently using the nothing phone 2a that's why I'm leaning towards its buds.

Before this I owned a pair of moondrop nekocakes but I lost them recently, so I'm looking for a better replacement rn

[sour kayak]

guys i have headphones with have ubc c charging but the tech sheet says "Power Supply: 5V 1A" but i only have 5V 2A charger (it didnt come with charger in the box) would it be okay to charge it with 5V 2A one?

[vagrant dock]

unless someone wants to correct me, it would be fine, your powersupply will only supply what is asked for by the device it is powering, so if you have headphones that want 5v 1a, your power supply will only provide 5v 1a even if it is 5v 2a or even 5v 100a

[stone quartz]

Amplifiers I ordered have 26 years worth of filth in them lol

I wonder where these things were previously to get this bad

[gilded geyser]

Found these at the recycling centre for 12 euros each
Akg k280
Akg k240 anniversary edition

I am very much not an audiophile
They sound good I guess so it's good deal imo

Thoughts?

[lean grove]

As long as the voltage is the same, you shouldn't have any problems using a charger rated higher for current.

[fresh basalt]

ended up buying these... https://www.amazon.co.uk/AZATOM-EB100-Bookshelf-Acoustics-Enclosure/dp/B098TNS13Y?th=1 got them today... plugged in the power, went to plug in the RCA to the computer, and my fingers felt.. tingly... noticible current coming OUT of the 3.5mm end of the 3.5mm to RCA... from the speakers... plugged into an old ipod to test... immediate very loud buzz coming from the speakers.. plugged it into the old laptop to test if it was just the ipod.. same loud buzz

assuming they are faulty if they are sending current back down to the RCA TO the device

[tired crown]

Based response

[fresh basalt]

My car supports MP3 and aac only. I have my music collection as flac. Storage space isn't the issue, but I prefer it not to sound shit in my car. Should I do MP3 320 or do something else with aac? Not jumped into any audio stuff since the winamp days. So I'm super rusty

[haughty girder]

They're effectively the same

just stick with MP3, realistically.

[rancid swift]

thats dusty, probably sitting in a garage or something like that

looks like it

an air duster will help take the dust out, some contact cleaner for the circut boards

[rancid swift]

yeah no problem, let me know if you got any more questions

[stone quartz]

Seems to be working fine with the dust still inside

Might leave it as is to save making a mess

[steel escarp]

@lean grove apparently the default smsl d6s filter smooths treble

[lean grove]

Which one? Slow rolloff?

[steel escarp]

Linear Phase Apodizing Fast Roll-Off

F-2 in my dac

[lean grove]

Doesn't that also depend on your sample rate

[steel escarp]

it has these:
F-1:Minimum phase
F-2:Linear phase apodizing fast roll-off
F-3:Linear phase fast roll-off
F-4:Linear phase fast roll-off low ripple
F-5:Linear phase slow roll-off
F-6:Minimum phase fast roll-off
F-7:Minimum phase slow roll-off low dispersion

[lean grove]

Assuming the filters are the same as this one

Yeah a few DB at 44.1

Keep windows at 48 and you should be fine

Or just use a different filter

[steel escarp]

apodizing filters have no pre-ringing

its a different way to reconstruct the signal than the time domain sinc function filters

Apodizing filter does not automatically mean, short with slow roll-off. Apodizing filters (in the sense of removing aliasing artifacts right at the edge of audible spectra) can be linear, or long and sharp too.

Apodizing filter is in many cases a better option for music that isn't recorded as wel

[restive lily]

My boom arm for my mic that I've had for a few years is having some issues.
These little metal clips around this metal rod are deforming and sometimes the metal rod will fall out if jostled too hard.
What are these clips called? Trying to see if I can just replace these

[tired crown]

What is the arm

[fathom elm]

is there a decent list for iems at every price?

[restive lily]

I couldn't tell you the exact arm, It was a gift over 5 years ago.
However, it seems very common while searching. It is very very very close to this: https://www.amazon.sg/Mic-Arm-HyperX-DuoCast-Microphone/dp/B0BZ7FBKZV?th=1

[elder thistle]

super cool to see dual drivers like that

I got a beat up k240 sextett around here somewhere, but there's only 1 real driver

the 6 other drivers are passive radiators

[nova wagon]

https://squig.link/list/
super review has one
crinacle has another one, but each reviewer's personal taste in iem tuning affect the tuning somewhat so keep that in mind

[elder thistle]

that's a really stupid list

[elder thistle]

probably not, because sound devices in general are a lot more complicated than "oh sound signature, woah frequency response"

you can pick something neutral bright and expect it to sound clear in rock music, and instead it sounds like a melded together pile of shit

because they ignored the basics of detail retrieval

[fathom elm]

well yea that’s why i want a list to give me a good one, not a bad one

i’m not gonna buy any i just wanted to learn more

[elder thistle]

no, because the same iems could sound like $300 headphones in jazz music

there is a swap in the kind of demands those genres often place on a sound device

well, calmer jazz

[fathom elm]

i mean every list has said what type of audio it outputs

or wtv

warm

neutral

yknow

so i’d go off of that

[elder thistle]

nope, that's not the sound, just the tone

the easy thing to pick on here is instrument separation

[fathom elm]

yea that’s what i mean

[elder thistle]

it's a property entirely separate and not dictated by tone that determines how a sound device handles overlapping sounds

more overlappy music has a tendency to create less clarity than expected on a low instrument separation headphone/iem

but there are many more factors and variables, and not just for detail retrieval

[fathom elm]

well i’d assume the 5 star ones are atleast good at something 😭

[elder thistle]

overall realism, impact and snap, airyness

no!

I mean technically... sure there's always a random niche scenario where it may outperform something else

because of how many variables there are

[warm scarab]

jackson is evil btw

probably eats people

just saying

[elder thistle]

but audio products popular across various known audiophile reviewers are often recommended solely out of tone

[warm scarab]

see evil

[elder thistle]

it's actually somewhat uncommon for them to remark on other properties of sound

this is how musicians end up with k361's

how rap enjoyers end up with ksc75's

how apex legends players end up with he400se

and since these people rarely have the chance to compare these to other things for their use cases, they can't fight back

I have never gotten a rave-review audiophile headphone that lived up to even half it's hype in quantifiable ways for what it's suggested to be used for

and I have all of them under $200 except the ft1

[autumn zealot]

Hello!
There's a streaming service in my country known as JioCinema, they are heavily criticized for their absurd quality.
One funny thing that happens in when we choose 1080p the audio quality drops, and gets so annoying to watch.
I looked into the media player logs from developer tools on chrome and noticed the sample rate to change from 48000Hz to 16000Hz

I'm not very familiar with audio tech, but could it be this sample rate that's causing the bad audio?

[elder thistle]

yes

that's 8khz of actual audio bandwidth, and probably full of aliasing and digital artifacts

[autumn zealot]

I hope this is not their way of reducing bandwidth costs. Reported it to the support team for getting it fixed

[fresh basalt]

so, these new speakers i have, had made everything sound... odd... i dont know if its because they are shit.. or if this is just how proper things are supposed to sound... they have a frequency response range of 40hz to 20khz... and my old ones were 100Hz to 17KHz... is it just that im now hearing things that the old speakers didnt produce?

its hard to describe the difference, voices sound slightly, echo-y, but i dont know if its that im just hearing more of the voice, and i was missing that sound before

[buoyant vale]

This is just a risk you run when you buy cheap crap thats not even been measured

[fresh basalt]

where did i mention what it was that i bought?

[buoyant vale]

here

[fresh basalt]

and if you scroll down a little more, you will see that i said they almost blew up my motherboard, because they were spitting voltage OUT of the RCA... and i sent them back

i replaced them with Edifier R1280T

the edifier sound... very different... to the cheapo creative pebble v2 that i had, and as i said about those, they were there to output any audio at all, when i needed a loud speaker, and they did their job

so as i said, i dont know if this is how stuff was supposed to sound all along, but its sounded "muted" on the cheapo creative speakers.. or... if there is something wrong with these speakers

[buoyant vale]

you're probably just used to the pebbles being lofi but who knows? I can't hear the edifiers 🤷‍♂️

[molten lotus]

anyone know any headsets wired for around 50$ that are good quality for music mostly and bit of gaming?

[woeful pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273482147218460746/1304803795276005416/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_f0922417-7f7a-4a73-9504-f4abdc2bcf41.jpg?ex=6730b8ba&is=672f673a&hm=095fba644966802897a85a568e5f471ccdff4d3fd18c4140cc6980f203b714bf&

Is this fixable

Without tools

[woeful pike]

Iems probably

[random tartan]

If the cables are all still intact it's easier, but still a pain to fix.

And probably not without tools.

[molten lotus]

which ones

[random tartan]

There are so many 😅

Personally I don't have any recommendations for that price range. But someone here probably does.

[woeful pike]

There are quite a few choices at that price range you should do your own research and see what suits you

[pliant crow]

Would these 2 work together? https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B0006H92QK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&th=1 https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B0CFKHCQ8W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2P4HAJFBSBQMN&th=1

[pliant crow]

thrusthear zero red

[molten lotus]

i was looking at Superlux HD-660 Pro they were quite cheap looked nice but dk

[random tartan]

It's just that I've never personally had any in that price range so I didn't want to reccomend anything that I'm not 100% sure of.

But I've heard it's pretty good for the price

[pliant crow]

anyone?

[random tartan]

Let me take a look

Hadn't noticed the question for some reason

[pliant crow]

hahha its fine

[random tartan]

So, what do you want to work together?? Because the 2 links are the same mic.

Or did I miss something

[pliant crow]

danb

damn

sorry

wait

[random tartan]

Np

[pliant crow]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B0CFKHCQ8W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2P4HAJFBSBQMN&th=1

with this arm

[random tartan]

It should work together yes.

Audio technica has their own arms, but pretty much all their mics come with adapters for normal arms.

Also, you did pick out a good mic.

Depending on what you want to do with it anyway.

[pliant crow]

Mix of gaming and productoin hahahha

[random tartan]

It's best for singing, but it does work fine for those purposes too.

Audio technica is a good brand

Especially in that price range

But they do also have some very expensive mics haha

[pliant crow]

Me and my friends make some rap songs on the side but gaming is the most common thing it will be used for

[pliant crow]

yeah im aware hahahha

[random tartan]

And they're very good, i know from experience, but those are really only for 100% proffesional work.

For gaming and a bit of production that one is fine.

[pliant crow]

I was in a studio once with this big artist from my country and the mic was like 2k euros or something

there really is levels to it

[random tartan]

Oh yeah, I work with mics in that range quite a bit.

Clarification, I'm an audio engineer

[pliant crow]

Mind if I add you as a friend if I need some suggestoins with audio stuff 😂

[random tartan]

Don't have my own studio, but i do sometimes work in studios and do mostly live stuff.

[pliant crow]

What kind of work do you do in that industry?

[random tartan]

Sure.

[random tartan]

Pretty much everything to do with audio on the music side. But mainly live mixing and etc

But I also do production

Repairs too. And i rent equipment to people.

[pliant crow]

That's actually pretty cool

You like your job?

[random tartan]

Yes, i absolutely love it.

The most annoying thing is the hours, but i love it so it's fine.

The hours are never the same, and sometimes very weird hours.

I have times where I work through the entire night

Anyway, feel free to dm me for recommendations.

[pliant crow]

When you work in the night is that on concerts or clubs, or you record songs with artists?

[random tartan]

That's pretty much only concerts.

Especially festivals

Because I also work with the crews that build it and break it down again.

[pliant crow]

hahahha funny at 15 i was helping these crews in my city

i actually found the work to be pretty easy but the other people were a bt wierd tbh they didn't joke around or anything they just smoked and did their job

[random tartan]

Same here, while I don't do everything they do, I focus on just the audio now.

But I used to do everything when I started.

But that was more as stagehand.

[pliant crow]

🙂

[exotic yacht]

thoughts on the hyperx procast xlr?

[simple cove]

any audiphiles have reccomendation for a dac, was looking to get the mojo 2, but i don't care about the portability, is there a better one for around the same price that's better? I'm not even sure what i'm looking for, but I happenef to listen to these headphones on a mojo 2 with thre crossfeed enabled and it sounded so nice, any reccomendations?

[fresh basalt]

played one of the frequency response tests, to test if the speakers i got actually play all the frequencies they claim to do... completely forgot that im almost in my 40s... and it doesnt matter if they can play the frequencies... i cant hear them 😄

my hearing cuts out around 11khz... my wife can hear to about 11.5khz, my 12yo's hearing cuts out around 17khz, my 7yo can hear tones at 19khz...

my mate, who is a couple of years older than me, and has played in a band for 25 years, and they dont use monitors, they just use amps facing them... did the same test and stops hearing around 8khz 😄

[stone quartz]

11KHz seems pretty low for your age

[fresh basalt]

(he once came home from playing a gig and noticed that his ears had been bleeding)

[fresh basalt]

you know those volume limiting settings in ipods can you can disable? i always disabled them... you know those HUGE speakers/amps you have at rock concerts? i stand next to them.. 😄

[stone quartz]

I do the same. Maybe something I should cut out, lol

I do wear hearing protection at concerts now at least

Brings it from about 110 decibels down to about 85 which is the threshold of hearing damage over extended periods I think

[fresh basalt]

i have mild tinitus too, when its quiet, i hear ringing all the time

really blown my hearing up going to various rock/punk rock bands in the late 90s, and 2000s

[stone quartz]

I have that as well. I keep a network switch running next to me to drown it out.

[fresh basalt]

i dont know how... at all, its really odd... but my wh1000xm4's, with full noise cancelling on.. make a lot of it go away... it must be an artefact of the cancellation algorithm or something... which is why i spend a lot of my work day with them on, even if im not listening to anything

[stone quartz]

Interesting. Maybe the ANC is loud enough to drown it out

I think it uses two directly opposing frequencies

Or just plays the exact opposite of your surroundings

[fresh basalt]

so i think ive worked it out... its exposing youtubers who dont fix their audio in post.. a lot of vlog style youtubers i watch, have a distinct echo-y sound to them now, which im guessing the pebbles, lost, because of their lower range/shitter quality... but these new speakers are showing that up... because videos such as LTT and other "well produced" videos where they have actual audio engineers working on making the audio sound right... it doesnt show up

so it doesnt seem to be a problem with the speakers, its just showing up problems in peoples recording equipment that i would never have noticed before now

[warm scarab]

mind your speaker placement

[fresh basalt]

they are currently closer than i would like them, but, i did a "fake it" test, by moving my head closer to them, to mimic them being further a part, and was still picking up the same issues (the closeness is being resolved during the week when i build a shelf into the desk to mount them on

[warm scarab]

I mean like their distance to the wall

direction they are pointing at

their angle

etc

[fresh basalt]

ah, there is no wall behind them at all... there is a double glazed window behind them, but... thats about 1ft behind them.. currently angled towards my head, pointing slightly inwards and slightly upwards from where they are sat... when they are in their final resting place, slightly inwards and slightly down, pointing at my head

[steel escarp]

im done with smsl dacs

holy shit

the detail is just somehow gone

nothing I played with this dac sounds bad, like there is no complaining even with bad recordings

but you don't get rewarded either

[exotic schooner]

Sony da30es
For some reason I have stupidly low subwoofer output

The mackie m1400i can’t even detect it as a signal…

[elder thistle]

what kind of music

also did it need a mic? things like the superlux don't have mics

[elder thistle]

are you able to record the audio of it with your phone mic?

the edifiers

[quick badger]

yall got any solutions i want my subwoofer to sound more lively like feel it more i reently got a bigger room and i re hooked everything up but i feel like it just doesent have that mutch power as it used to

[quick badger]

loose lead or wrong setting?

[exotic schooner]

idek tbh

[quick badger]

try fiddeling with the cable

[exotic schooner]

i think somthing is wrong in my amp or reciever cuz its only the low level output that is super low volume

[quick badger]

you could always use the jank way i do it

[exotic schooner]

getting new 10000uf 80 volt caps since the old ones were bulging a bit

[exotic schooner]

how is that?

[quick badger]

have the sub bypass the amp i have the sub hooked to tape 2 REC as i dont have a subwoofer connection

control the speakers by just ajusting the amp volume and the sub by ajusting the input volume

for the amp i mean

[exotic schooner]

used to be super loud now its just a slight hum even at 30hz test tone

i think my biggest issue is my amp wants to see a super higher volume input

[quick badger]

everythings shaking for mee too lmao

[exotic schooner]

i need to see your setup

[quick badger]

why

[exotic schooner]

cuz me want to see lo l

[quick badger]

its not anything special

[quick badger]

mind pining me so i can find the cannel on my phone?

[exotic schooner]

pinning?

@quick badger

[quick badger]

yeah spelling error

@exotic schooner

[exotic schooner]

no sub?

[quick badger]

not on the desk no

[exotic schooner]

nice setup

[quick badger]

its decent

[exotic schooner]

when i turned stupid and moved into my garage for my pc...

[quick badger]

i AM in the garage

[exotic schooner]

thats a garage???

how dare you live my dream

[quick badger]

lmao

[exotic schooner]

i take upmost care of my audio equiment

[quick badger]

i have a second speaker system over by the side

wait 2 actually

[exotic schooner]

need more bass

[quick badger]

you always need more bass

[exotic schooner]

this subwoofer got super low even in that crappy box

[quick badger]

that doesnt sound healthy

[exotic schooner]

super healthy

[quick badger]

your neighbours bust love you

[exotic schooner]

totally not almost tripping my 15 amp 120 volt breaker

[exotic schooner]

they do

[quick badger]

is that sarcasm or no

i cant tell anymore

[exotic schooner]

they dont really bother me

i pretty much only play doing the times they are at work

[quick badger]

i dont have that issue

entire shed is buitl\ out of 20 ish cm insulating pannels

you cant hear shit from the outside

i have a really bang for you buck setup now that i think about it

kenwood kr-a4050 with a set of siemens RL 170 G4 and a Boston Acoustics SoundWare XS SE subwoofer

`

[glacial gulch]

guys im getting a new mic, which is better a quadcast 2 or an AT2040 usb?

[molten lotus]

just anything good for music tbh i dont really need a mic since i have a seperate one anything wired good for pc gaming and music but specifcally looking at music

i seen them superluxs for cheap but not too sure if they are good or if there is any other better ones out there

they look hella comfy aswell

[elder thistle]

it's not possible for me to narrow anything down from "good for music", and even then it leans on my own preferences and not yours in order to make a guess

the superfun drivers in a lot of the superlux headphones and samson sr850 are decently technical for $40, maybe similar to a bootleg dt990

they have actually detailed and somewhat tight bass unlike koss stuff, and they have more fine detail

survivor - eye of the tiger is a good example of music that works really well on them

not busy enough to overwhelm the driver like most of rock music

doesn't need infinite resolution or anything but should have air

they will not sound as realistic as a ksc75 with real life instruments

most importantly I would suggest you get different earpads, probably one of the pairs that I have since I can create eq's for them, and then eq the crap out of them

if you wanted superior resolution and able to handle busy music with high clarity, there are other headphones

[tawdry gale]

ksc75x

it has a mic

[molten lotus]

hmm would u count them superluxs good then for general then

[molten lotus]

im more looking for a headset

[tawdry gale]

they need eq

[tawdry gale]

u can buy a parts express headband

for ksc75x

it snaps on perfectly

[molten lotus]

hmm

[molten lotus]

but in general tho would they be fine for gaming or music comfort wise or is ther ebetter options like the ksc75x or more

[tawdry gale]

music and gaming, need eq

the treble is very peaky

[tawdry gale]

alternative for ksc75? its like 199 usd

[molten lotus]

ah anything else u suggest other than ksc75x that is like a headset

[tawdry gale]

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx

[molten lotus]

yea ive seen those but they kinda out of my budget 😭

[tawdry gale]

eq a superlux

then

if u dont want a ksc75

[molten lotus]

which one do you suggest then 50-100$ budgety

[tawdry gale]

ksc75

as u can see

the headphone market is very shit

[molten lotus]

which one is the extension

for it

is it these ones yea?

[tawdry gale]

yes

[tawdry gale]

ksc75x is the one with a mic

ksc75 is no mic

[molten lotus]

yea dont need a mic which one is the extension u was on ab

[tawdry gale]

what do u mean extension

cable extension?

[molten lotus]

^

[tawdry gale]

https://www.parts-express.com/Mini-Stereo-Lightweight-Headphones-with-4-ft.-Cord-240-015?quantity=1

throw out the speakers

take the clips off of ksc75

and then clip ksc75 onto the headband

[molten lotus]

ah ill take a look into it ty what current headphones do u use

[tawdry gale]

hd600, ksc75, Nightjar Singularity, Truthear Hola

[molten lotus]

ah and for the headphones wise ones the best ones are these yea?

but budget wise ksc75s

[tawdry gale]

for me, hd6x0 is my fav headphone

everything else was a let down

[molten lotus]

hd600? or is hd6x0 a complete different

[tawdry gale]

6x0 series = 600, 650, 6xx, 580

every 6x0 series headphone is a sidegrade to one another

[molten lotus]

ah

[molten lotus]

is this the only site to buy those or is there another

[tawdry gale]

hd6xx is basically a repainted hd650

[tawdry gale]

drop.com is the only place that sells 6xx

[molten lotus]

is it american?

[tawdry gale]

drop.com is an american website

[molten lotus]

yea since shipping to the eu will be pain in the ass w the customs and shit

[tawdry gale]

compare the prices of importing a 6xx with buying a hd600 or 650 locally

(they dont include tax on drop.com site)

[molten lotus]

the hd600 650 ones cost way more tf thats js so much for a pair of headphones 😭

[tawdry gale]

I'm gonna estimate price of 6xx for u

(gonna assume ur tax is 20%)

[tawdry gale]

224.30 euros

if u import 6xx

[molten lotus]

fucking ehll

yea no that way out of budget 😭

i just want some cheap good headphones tbh

[tawdry gale]

ksc75

its v good

[molten lotus]

sure ill have them in mind never tried ear ones ygm so idk if ill like them or not but thanks for the help

[tawdry gale]

np

[fossil zinc]

Fiio FT1 look them up

But you need to be on aliexpress to get them they are Chinese

[tawdry gale]

their budget is 50 usd

[tight magnet]

Hey, I’m looking for some over/on ear headphones currently and just wondering if anyone’s got any suggestions? I’ve had a brief look at Marshall, Sony, Bose & Sennheiser with best bets currently the Bose QuietComfort Ultra or Sony WH-1000XM5. I currently have the AirPods Pro 2 so looking for something with similar (or better) capabilities for battery & noise cancellation (mainly this)

[sleek lily]

There are some others I'd argue are part of that same family tbh

@molten lotus what are you looking for exactly?

Cause the recommendation jumped from like ksc75 to superkux to 6xx which are all super different

If you're looking for something ultra budget you're probably gonna be stuck with the used market or koss tbh for decent stuff

[tawdry gale]

The reason why I listed those ones in particular is as they all use the same driver design (minisys/KDH 580 platform)

660s and newer ones use a modified hd700 driver design(SYS platform)

While still using still using basically the same foam(other than 490 pro), which causes a muffled upper midrange and doesnt offer anything else special tonally in a different region

[sleek lily]

No, I mean like hd535 and such

[molten lotus]

more for a headset

[molten lotus]

tbh js 50$-70$

[tawdry gale]

try to find a used pc37x or used hd560s

[molten lotus]

bet ty

[livid ruin]

he400se from aliexpress can be gotten for ~$60-70 if that’s ok

otherwise kph30i, kph40x, ksc75, hd681

[molten lotus]

yea ill take a look at it but i might get them hd560s

thank you sm tho

[livid ruin]

i thought you wanted cheap headphones

sure

btw check used hd560s

may get them decently cheap

[molten lotus]

yea but looking at it now i think is better to put in few more to get like decent ones

then budget ones

[molten lotus]

wouldnt brand new ones be better? or is there other headphones around that budget that are better

or compare

idk

[livid ruin]

at ~$150 than the 560s? prob not

fiio ft1 are decent

[molten lotus]

yea ill prob get 560s and ill take a look on the ones you said fs and ill decide since with it being used and from ebay i never know if i can get some ripoff shit

[errant rock]

hey y’all got a question, im trying to find a new drive belt for my car radio’s cassette player but im trying to find a 410mm belt, but the biggest ive found thus far is more around 170mm , anyone got any tips or pointers where i could look?

[timid cloak]

alr i can't trust youtubers about audio tech, best headset for games and music (very loud very extreme tekk music) ?
150 euro absolute maximum
it doesnt need a micro phone, yes i have an audio interface that has a headset mini jack port.

[whole sonnet]

Guys so quick question me and my dad both play games in the same room like right next to each other but if both our mics are unmuted we get really bad echo what can we do/buy to fix that

We would like to both be unmuted at the same time

[tawdry gale]

closed or open

[timid cloak]

idm any

[tawdry gale]

do u need isolation

[timid cloak]

wdym

[whole sonnet]

It gets tedious him telling me to mute so he can talk then me telling him to mute so I can talk

[tawdry gale]

open = everyone can hear ur music

closed = people probably cant hear ur music

[timid cloak]

closed 💀

[tawdry gale]

fiio ft1

[timid cloak]

arent open better quality

[tawdry gale]

open are more well tuned

but everyone can hear ur music

and u will hear ur environment

very clearly

[timid cloak]

tbh i don't need open, i listen too loud anyway

rn i'm using thruthear red zero iems and the ear silicone things that fit me are dead

[tawdry gale]

wym dead

[timid cloak]

it's coming out lose in my ear when i remove them

[tawdry gale]

buy new eartips

[timid cloak]

AND

the other is split in half

[tawdry gale]

ye buy aftermarket eartips

[timid cloak]

i'll do yeah but i need to make sure they fit me tho

[tawdry gale]

eartip manufacturers provide measurements of each of their sizes

just get the measurements for ur eartips and compare

[timid cloak]

hmmmm

do you have any recommendations for that

i do get very annoying spots in my ears if i don't clean my eartips properly and stuff, worried i'll get issues you know

with chinese cheap ah silicone

[tawdry gale]

dunu s&s, spinfit w1

[timid cloak]

do you know these stuffs by heart wow

[tawdry gale]

I own a couple headphones and iems

so did test out some eartips

[timid cloak]

have you tried those memory foams ones

[tawdry gale]

dont get those

they degrade in months

my silicon tips are still very nice after 2 years

[timid cloak]

i got a pair right there

[tawdry gale]

if u want foam tips, buy a lot of pairs

[timid cloak]

i'll give it a shot since i can only use one earphone or else i get extremely triggered by discomfort from the miss fit of the silicone eartip i have on the other

[tawdry gale]

a lot of aftermarket eartips use softer silicon

compared to many stock tips

[timid cloak]

do i like press it down, insert and let it expand ?

[tawdry gale]

silicon? u just shove it into ur ear

[timid cloak]

nah foam

[tawdry gale]

I still just shove it in my ear

[timid cloak]

i apparently got very tight ear canals

;-;

[tawdry gale]

zero red nozzle is thick and long

[timid cloak]

9/10 comfort when i like roll press with my fingers it fits

one thing im scared of losing if i get a headset is the feel of kicks in my ears

the kind of shit i listen to :https://soundcloud.com/xn88ax/paranoid-ft-yuki?in=evan66-513552331/sets/stream&si=89d45a43f85e47dbb9527d933d0c969c&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

that's why i really don't wanna lose that

[timid cloak]

they're my first iems so i got no baseline

[tawdry gale]

is zero red large for u

[tawdry gale]

do u use zero red with the impedance adaptor

[timid cloak]

i had to use at first the very thinnest silicone eartips then i could use the smallest thick one

yes

[tawdry gale]

just ensure u have the deepest fit possible

[timid cloak]

alr xD

[timid cloak]

my ears are probably too damaged for me to notice the difference ngl

ok nvm without the impedance plug the kicks are better but i got a buzzing

[tawdry gale]

what buzzing

do u own a dongle

[timid cloak]

cheap audio interface

M-track solo

[tawdry gale]

get a dongle

[timid cloak]

a dongle ?!

why

[tawdry gale]

no noise floor

no buzzing

just quiet

[timid cloak]

but i really like my little potentiometer for the volume 🥹

[tawdry gale]

but u have buzz

[timid cloak]

not with impedance plug !

my pc is also next to a powerful router and shit

[tawdry gale]

that doesnt cause the buzz

[timid cloak]

idk i heard it could

red zeros are not shielded

[tawdry gale]

a lot of desktop amps and most pcs have noise floor

iems are more sensitive to noise floor than headphones

cuz their impedance is low

[timid cloak]

the price tradeoff seems less attracting now ngl

[tawdry gale]

reason why u dont have buzz with impedance plug, cuz ur increasing ur impedance

[timid cloak]

btw the fiio FT1 are at 170

[tawdry gale]

ye tax

[timid cloak]

with tax is way over budget

i need those kinda quick so i can't really save, wanna have a pause away from the red zeros

[tawdry gale]

k361, but the build is not very good

[timid cloak]

Alr I'll sell shits then lol

I think I got a rx580 laying around

[whole sonnet]

Guys so quick question me and my dad both play games in the same room like right next to each other but if both our mics are unmuted we get really bad echo what can we do/buy to fix that
We would like to both be unmuted at the same time

It gets tedious him telling me to mute so he can talk then me telling him to mute so I can talk

[haughty girder]

Very bright in comparison to the Reds

but it's like, the only other option

[elder thistle]

also comes with worse instrument separation than $25 earbuds

tekk music is a lot like phonk though in terms of bad(tm) mixing

[elder thistle]

lets do a shootout instead of having random headphones mentioned

there is a lot of distortions in this music that you'll notice on headphones with higher instrument separation, since that allows higher detail in busy music like this

however all 3 of these will likely reach their analytical limits and sound at least partially like mush

but,

with more detail comes more detail, naturally

so the calculation that needs to be made here is how much of the details and sounds and distortions do you really want to hear?

[elder thistle]

the k361 sounded way better to me on this exact song than I expected it to

tonally it was fine except for the bass being light

had punch but not a lot of depth

and it masked most of the distortions in a way that was overall smooth and not much more of a mess than the mixing/mastering already is

most sounds were visible, just not a lot of detail

the dt770's soundstage width and imaging worked against it here imo. I felt like it took away from the intensity and in-your-face presentation of the music. the distortions in the vocals were still highlighted in the treble despite the dt770 being less revealing in the treble by nature. tonally it was bright and didn't have much bass. of course that can be fixed with eq, but these things need an amp to get really loud anyways

the shure srh440A was similar to the k361 here, but with more impactful bass and a little more treble. I could hear the different distortions most often on these, but they weren't super obvious like they are on more expensive headphones. the midrange isn't as flavorful or dynamic as the k361, but it opts for higher vocal clarity

personally I would use the srh440A for this out of these 3 headphones

but along with the srh440A I will also endorse the k361 as a pretty good option here

[fossil zinc]

Listened to that paranoid track Bluetooth to a quedalix 5k with hifiman sundaras’ s closed sounds crunchy not normal distortion more of a digital

For a speed test I generally use through the fire and flames - dragonforce
Or painkiller - Judas Priest

I can try that out again with the Fiio ft1 in about a week

[wise vigil]

Hello, I have a question: I'm going to get a set of speakers, but I don't really know what to get since I don't really have any experience. I'm searching for something that sounds OK, not incredible, just listenable so that my ears don't hurt from my headset pressing on them all day long.

[fossil zinc]

What is the usage tv, pc, music, games.

Budget

Lookup budget bookshelf speakers on YouTube.
If you don’t have an amp to drive them, lookup powered bookshelf speakers.
Or budget in a amp to go with them

[lean grove]

How much money do you want to spend

[wise vigil]

Music & Games, and I'd say something around 25 euros would be good, but I am willing to spend more if I have to

[lean grove]

25 euros doesn't get you much. Creative pebbles would probably be your best option

If you don't need stereo, you might be able to get a UE boom or UE wonder boom for a low price and then also have a decent Bluetooth speaker

[wise vigil]

Alright

Thanks

[native topaz]

Canadian Deal - Today Only Shoppers drugmart get $50 (50,000 points) on online orders over $150 and free shipping.

Plus $100 off on Samsung Buds 3 Pro

[lean grove]

Use code HELL4GAMERS for 20% added to your price

[fleet plank]

I would only like price to be subtracted thank you

[timid cloak]

thanks for the in depth overview, actually surprised you went through my nasty music taste 💀

i think i'll go with the k361 then

105 with tax, free delivery... makes me save a little for a future SSD

[wise bane]

Hey guys whats the best mic with a physical mute button for around 50 bucks

Im a complete audio noob and i want something thats gonna be good for streaming

[lean grove]

https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATR2100x-USB-Cardioid-Microphone-ATR/dp/B07ZPBFVKK

though for this type of mic, you really need a boom arm and to place it close to your face to get the best sound

using the little tripod on your desk is gonna pick up just as much desk-noise as your voice

[haughty girder]

why not software shortcut?

[wise bane]

I like having a tactile one so I know for sure I'm on mute

[wise bane]

Oh nice, that looks perfect thanks!

[woeful pike]

Guys this would be a decent option for a cheap gaming iem right

[elder thistle]

dunno

it's entirely possible kz makes something with great imaging/sense of direction and instrument separation / keeping clarity during overlapping sounds

[haughty girder]

you generally want to avoid KZ

[woeful pike]

But it was free!!!

So I should be fine maybe

[wind dragon]

MY headset is so quiet on new pc and so loud on old pc i can barely hear anything all thats different is winodws 11... Why is it so hard to hear?

[haughty girder]

okay that's the right price for em

[elder thistle]

we need to have zs10pro vs zero red as a real review

I think it would scale back various claims of "progress" being made on iems

[soft rune]

Are kiwi cadenza's good?

im thinking of getting them for first IEM

[elder thistle]

dunno, I decided not to buy them this month because of reviews saying they had poor techs

[soft rune]

what would u recomemnd

[elder thistle]

depends on what you want

despite audiophile hype being applied to these and other earphones, they are still popular for a reason

on paper it's reasons I do not share

[soft rune]

I love listening to music: mostly Pop R&B and Rap I like a good bass

Ill be gaming a lot using these as i want to replace my old headset

[elder thistle]

well I have the zero 2's, zero reds, kz zs10pro and dqs, chu 2's, and wa'ner s.g's

[soft rune]

mhmm what are ur thoughts

[elder thistle]

for gaming I thought the strength of the sense of direction in cs2 was strongest on the zero 2's. while the precision was highest on the zero reds

the wa'ners seem to have sharper transients and punch than I originally thought it had, since I had an 11db dip I needed to eq up to make it sound normal

the zero red though has some soundstage, which is unusual compared to the others

but the zero 2 had a more natural and flavorful midrange that responded to volume changes and sounded alive. zero red was the opposite

wa'ners were somewhere in the middle

the zs10 pro has similar bass control to the two of these but with slightly weirder treble, midrange movement somewhere between the two, and the amount of fine details being much higher than both

so there's quite a few compromises between these

I listen to medium intensity rock and electronic music and occasionally play cs2, so my favorite was the zero 2

I really liked the midrange when using the light blue tips, and they had a bit more fine detail than the zero red

[soft rune]

thank you

is zero 2 stock cable okay?

[elder thistle]

ye it's decent

the chu 2 cable is actually my favorite, I'm a fan of thick rubberized cables for some reason

[soft rune]

me too

[soft rune]

is this a problem?

i like how they look and reviews said theyre good

[elder thistle]

techs are things like telling what direction a sound came from, or hearing fine details of different instruments

a lot of the hype these days is about tone, which is basically the eq curve

music can sound tonally realistic/normal but be really low detail and give you a poor idea of what's happening

my preferences mean that tone is a secondary priority

I can adjust to strange tone over time anyways

if I had the cadenza, I would be able to gauge these techs better and alongside it's tone describe how it sounds overall

everyone both hears techs and tone a little differently, as well as gauges them a little differently

so hearing people say it's not as "technical" as other iems near it's price doesn't give me as much clarification as I'd like

nor will my conclusions be exactly like what yours would be

just probably close

[vagrant dock]

what are your guys thoughts on the linsoul singolo as a mix of gaming and music listening, I'd buy them and the linsoul az15 so I can use bluetooth for my phone

[fossil zinc]

Fiio FT1 just arrived and let me say they decimate the sundaras closed

[soft rune]

Hey guys, Im looking to purchase my first IEM today. I live in Canada so I use amazon.ca when im looking for all my products. Im planning to spend <70 CAD. Options I've been looking at are the Crinacle Zero:2's, Linsoul Cadenza's and finally Truthear Zero Red's. I am coming from a gaming headset thats been okay but im looking for an upgrade since its falling apart. I'd probably primarily use it for gaming and listening to music. I mainly play Valorant so accuracy is a big thing for me. For music I usually listen to rap and pop, I like a good bass on my music; a good overall balance is preferred. Out of the three please provide me info on what'd be the first to try and please feel free to give me any more options not listed out of the three. Thanks.

[soft rune]

Thanks man I really appreciate it

From your review I take it the Zero 2's were ur favorite?

[south helm]

guys I just got a bsod and my barracuda x headphones do not connect to my pc but they connect to my phone

please help me!

[lean grove]

Have you tried emailing razer support?

[south helm]

I fixed it! I just needed to unplug and plug back the wireless connector!

[south helm]

Thank you tho!!

[lean grove]

Happy we could help

[tawdry gale]

its a 20 dollar sidegrade

Id just rec 7hz zero 2

[warm scarab]

most things decimade closed sundaras

[tawdry gale]

closed sundara are one of the worst headphones ever

[livid ruin]

closed hifiman planars? why do they even exist

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/weapons-gif-8304589

[stone quartz]

Probably for people who want to wear them in public

But being closed pretty much defeats the purpose of a planar so it was probably a rhetorical question

[fossil zinc]

90% of my usage is around other people with TV’s going with something on it I don’t want to watch open backs just aren’t viable

Or grocery shopping

The sundaras do win in comfort

And some metal tracks sound better on them

[brisk rover]

Anyone know what type of speakers i should use for listening to music in my room i dont know anything about audio

[soft rune]

Wdym

u dont think its worth it

[tawdry gale]

cadenza is not worth it

[soft rune]

yeah i saw

it doesnt have good accuracy

What about crinacle vs truthear zero red @tawdry gale

[tawdry gale]

whats the first iem

[soft rune]

Oh

Zero 2's

[tawdry gale]

cuz crin also made the zero red

[tawdry gale]

zero reds are better

[soft rune]

whats ur experience with iems?

[tawdry gale]

I bought 3 iems after trying like 60 iems

[soft rune]

oh wow

whats ur fave

[tawdry gale]

Nightjar Singularity

[soft rune]

those look expensi asl

[tawdry gale]

well its 1.3k usd

[soft rune]

Why u spend too much

[tawdry gale]

it sounds good

its like my dream sound

[soft rune]

So based on ur 60 iems

u recommend crinacle zero's from earlier?

or should i still go with truthear zero red

[tawdry gale]

zero red is better than 7hz zero 2

I tried both

[soft rune]

What did u like about th zero red

[tawdry gale]

the bass techs

and its smooth

[soft rune]

where as the 7hz zero 2 is?

[tawdry gale]

worse bass techs

[soft rune]

the extra price is worth it?

[tawdry gale]

there is a difference

[soft rune]

what can i expect out of durability out of the zero reds

would it be a good First iEM

Im coming from headphones

[tawdry gale]

all iems arent very durable, dont drop them

[tawdry gale]

are ur ear canals small?

[soft rune]

Medium id say

yeah like small to medium

like on airpod pros the Medium one firts me good

[tawdry gale]

just to note zero red has a thick and long nozzle

[soft rune]

is that okay

[tawdry gale]

well idk ur canal size

hopefully u will fit it well

[soft rune]

whats ur ear canal size

[tawdry gale]

I wear L on airpods pro 2

[elder thistle]

personally I wouldn't say one is necessarily better than the other

[soft rune]

fr?

what about for gaming lik fps

[tawdry gale]

doesnt matter

[elder thistle]

wuh

does matter

[tawdry gale]

the limiting factor in gaming is always the game audio engine

not the audio gear especially if its tuned well

most game audio engines are shit

best one I've tried is terraria

[soft rune]

ooh this is coming from a guy with 60 iems wow

[elder thistle]

truthear zero red is a little more precise with placement of sounds, but the zero 2 is more obvious and concrete

[soft rune]

hows the cable on the truthear zero red's @tawdry gale

[tawdry gale]

its not the best, but usable

zero 2's cable is also not very good

[soft rune]

ya zero 2 look worse

[elder thistle]

I would not endorse the zero red for comp gaming specifically

[soft rune]

Whats a good alternative to zero red with better cable and similar sound performance @tawdry gale

[tawdry gale]

xuan nv

[soft rune]

Wat would u recommend for comp gaming

[elder thistle]

the fine details are more smeared and pushed back further in volume than the zero 2

[soft rune]

that shit expensive

[tawdry gale]

I havent noticed a difference in my performance between subtonic storm(6.5k usd) and zero 2

[elder thistle]

I have a ton of headphones but only 6 or so different iems

I'm just saying sound across different ones is much more complicated than "good" "bad", and in comp fps it matters

[soft rune]

would u guys recommend the top amazon iem KZ zs10?

[tawdry gale]

ass

[soft rune]

fr/

Fr?

[tawdry gale]

yes

[soft rune]

tell m,e mopre

[elder thistle]

honestly the zs10pro competes with the zero red imo

in a general sense

[tawdry gale]

kz put a lot of drivers in their iems that dont even make sound

eg

tribrid

[soft rune]

oh thats not good

[tawdry gale]

only

dd makes audible sound

[soft rune]

Ima just get the zero reds then

[elder thistle]

bass is tighter, and the difference in quiet sounds is as big as it gets

probably 20db worthy

[soft rune]

For the zero reds

Will I feel the bass

is it poerful in my ears

like in hip hop music

[tawdry gale]

yes, but its not basshead level

[soft rune]

Okk

thats good

[tawdry gale]

they include an impedance adaptor

that increases bass quantity

[soft rune]

Its better than the crinacle zero 2's bass?

[tawdry gale]

yes

quality wise

[soft rune]

bet

[elder thistle]

not as tight or textured as the zero 2 in the mid-upper portion

[soft rune]

Ima orde rit today

ill get it tmrw

[tawdry gale]

yes, cuz red have less midbass

[soft rune]

Is the anime Cover bad?

[elder thistle]

I get more midbass on the reds

[soft rune]

Is the black tips good?

u see how theres black tips there in the case

[tawdry gale]

really? I hear less

[soft rune]

thats the anime cover im talking abnout

why is it like that

[tawdry gale]

so more people buy it

[soft rune]

This one is probably ass right

[tawdry gale]

its good

[elder thistle]

I like the reds for their wide and airy spatial presentation, decently textured bass, and marginally passable level of instrument separation

[soft rune]

Im just tryna get the best value

[tawdry gale]

but sadly the predecessor is better

[tawdry gale]

best value, 7hz zero 2

[soft rune]

for canada the truthear zero red is $63

[tawdry gale]

for my taste

[soft rune]

the crinacles

theyre $37

just tryna see if that jump is worth it

[elder thistle]

the biggest problem I have with the zero reds is the midrange

it's undetailed, not dynamic, and just dead

[tawdry gale]

ye thats why I bought hola

hola so gud

[soft rune]

is zero 2's dual dynamic driver?

[elder thistle]

single

[tawdry gale]

1dd, but driver count doesnt matter

singularity is also a single dd

[soft rune]

Fr? i thought uget better precision with 2 in gaming

[tawdry gale]

but it sounds like a tribrid

[tawdry gale]

driver count doesnt matter

[soft rune]

SO first my IEM

zero reds $63 or crinacles zero 2 $37

is the price diff worth it

or should i just start with crinacles

since its my first iem

see what i like and not

[tawdry gale]

zero 2 is safer cuz nozzle is smaller

[elder thistle]

after suffering a bit trying to play cs2 with the zero reds, I got the zero 2's the next day and had much more success

exactly how someone hears the imaging / sense of direction on different earbuds or headphones will vary a little

but anyways

[soft rune]

OK bet

[elder thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558807222172385312/1294568979318177874/salnotes_zero.mp4?ex=6738f890&is=6737a710&hm=bae21bcdc95b1f4ff5813ea2ad0cd62cbfb589eb46b4039fbbfcdbe5a44b7158&

[soft rune]

ill get the zero 2's

im tlaking about this one

[tawdry gale]

yes

[soft rune]

is this one u guys are talking abnout

Aight

So its a good first IEM donny?

[tawdry gale]

yes

[tawdry gale]

Id rec buying a cheap case

and silica packs

[soft rune]

Nah

Im only planning on using it for my pc lol

[tawdry gale]

iems die very easily

[elder thistle]

at 0:11 in the video, I reach the practical limits of the imaging precision and choose the wrong door. this was something that was better on the zero reds, but on the reds I was not hearing many of these sounds or had trouble deciding if it was behind me or not

[tawdry gale]

if u just place them in the open

[soft rune]

bruhh why

[tawdry gale]

7/10 newbie's iem die

due to that

[soft rune]

How do they die just leaving them alone

[tawdry gale]

dust, moisture

earwax

[soft rune]

thats silly

[tawdry gale]

also some people drop them

[soft rune]

well thats juat on accident

yea wouldnt want $60 on my first IEm and break them arldy

[tawdry gale]

more people's iems die like that @soft rune

[soft rune]

Like iwthin months @tawdry gale ?

[tawdry gale]

some people's die within a month to a week

[soft rune]

Nooo theyre so sillyt

[tawdry gale]

https://youtu.be/4lAg06iNQdQ?si=4oNul_3RmVgbL30u

Just watch this

Dont make the mistake many people did

[soft rune]

Did umake the mistake donny

[tawdry gale]

none of my iems died before

I always store them in a case when I'm not using them

[soft rune]

evenon ur pc?

[tawdry gale]

yes

theres dust and moisture everywhere

[soft rune]

nice g

What mousepad do u use

[tawdry gale]

also remove earwax when u see it

[soft rune]

Okay

Do u want me to send u a pic of my crinacles when i get it tmrw

[tawdry gale]

generic one

[tawdry gale]

sure

[soft rune]

Wat are ur thoughts on moondrop chu 2

[tawdry gale]

qc is terrible

[soft rune]

aww dang

[tawdry gale]

design is terrible

[soft rune]

but QC on Crinacles aer good?

[tawdry gale]

(the brass oxidises too easily)

[tawdry gale]

its better

[soft rune]

Aight

so im going with a safe good option crinacles zero 2

@tawdry gale heyman

do you know anything about speakers?

[tawdry gale]

yes

[soft rune]

Im just looking for acheap speaker i can use when i dont wanna wear my iems and so my parents can use speakers too when theyre using PC

are creative pebbles okay?

[tawdry gale]

whats ur budget

[soft rune]

Umm not that much

like <50 cad?

i probably cant get much

but

Just if u have any reccs

[tawdry gale]

creative pebble plus, cuz it also comes with a mini woofer

[soft rune]

aw it looks get but its oos in amazon

[tawdry gale]

wym?

[soft rune]

is out of stock

[tawdry gale]

then just get any creative pebble

[soft rune]

you think theyre worth it ?

[tawdry gale]

at least they make sound

[soft rune]

haha

what speakers u use donny

[tawdry gale]

jbl 305p ii

[soft rune]

theyre way more expensive but what do u think about edifier mr4 @tawdry gale

[tawdry gale]

its better than pebbles

[soft rune]

for sure

[livid ruin]

tbh i still like hd681's more than he400se's ;-;

[tawdry gale]

both give me emotional damage and ear pain

[livid ruin]

Yeah hd681's without mods are deafening

Basicly dt990 se

What do you not like about the he400se btw?

[rapid valley]

Hi y’all

What’s a good bang-for-the-buck mic I can get to replace my Samson Q2U?

I was looking at the Shure MV7X but it’s a bit too pricey over here and I’m curious if anyone would know a similarly performing mic for a little less

[lean grove]

What's wrong with the q2u?

[rapid valley]

i’ve had it a while and the xlr port is a little funny with it
it sounds okay but i’d like something better

[lean grove]

Most of the gains you're gonna get from mics is gonna be in vocal processing. Compressor, noise gate, EQ, limiters, ¯_(ツ)_/¯

If you wanna seriously improve your sound that would be the path to take

Otherwise something "better" but still good bang for buck is a very nebulous request

[rapid valley]

fair fair

[tawdry gale]

the treble is grainy

the bass is also awful

ksc75 has better bass, treble and timbre

[livid ruin]

i really didn’t like the kph30i’s tbh, no bass, what’s the point of “good quality” bass when there’s basicly not any

too warm imo

treble was decent-good on the kph30i’s tho expect for the 4k dip that made certain aspect sound off

also the sound stage even with grado pads was near iem-like

i didn’t really enjoy them

still, at ~$50 there’s not much to choose from

[elder thistle]

theres lots

[livid ruin]

oh, which

tune 710bt’s and 510bt’s actually yh

720bt

etc

tried the 510bt’s and iirc 710bt’s too, the 510bt weren’t too shabby but the pads are awful

[elder thistle]

I dont have that many yet but for $50 that gets someone a behringer alpha/omega, oneodio a71 or pro 10, blackshark v2x, sr850 or monoprice modern retro, m50x clone, or rockville pro-m50

[livid ruin]

those m50x from aliexpress are clones?

not failed qc units or something?

[elder thistle]

amazon, like lyxpro has15, 512 audio academy, or tunical tnh101

[livid ruin]

blackshark v2x why

[livid ruin]

do you have any fr charts for some of them?

[elder thistle]

v2x for high instrument separation and strong but sorta imprecise imaging

not until I get to my pc

uh however

[livid ruin]

aren’t those muddy?

[elder thistle]

the rockville with the suede pads is super neutral

v2x has horrific tone including too much 200hz yes

t

this is one of the m50x clones with ebay velour pads, no rear damping cup, and basically open-back

[livid ruin]

that looks like it measures better than real m50x’s lol

[livid ruin]

which velour pads?

[steel escarp]

Lmao shorting

[rancid swift]

to push the limit, try this (may blow your driver, don't push it) https://youtu.be/xgjXtJQf1G8?si=aOJDpRjzr-I81LGk

[soft rune]

@tawdry gale How long is the cable for Crinacles zero 2?

[spare hearth]

people are sleeping on the rode nth100 and nth100m

[lean grove]

Are they

[exotic yacht]

alright so

theres the fifine am8 and a mixer for 120 euro
now my question is: is it good for the price

"gaming audio mixer" sounds bad, but it cant be that bad, can it?

[haughty girder]

so you see

when your hinge is less durable than AKG K361/371

that's not a good thing.

[steel escarp]

Especially not for a studio headphone. Rip the Rode NTH-100

[spare hearth]

That’s a bummer. Luckily lifetime warranty on the frame iirc

[elder thistle]

I thought that this was fixed?

[haughty girder]

ah the hifiman mentality

"poorly designed products can be good if you have a lifetime trust me bro warranty"

[steel escarp]

Hifiman warranty is 1 year

For their susvara it's 3 years

Still not a lot

[tawdry gale]

1.2m

[soft rune]

thx jittt

[spare hearth]

well, rode tends to stand behind their products in my experience buying multiple mics, can't say the same for every audio manufacturer

given its their first foray into this market i'm willing to give them a bit of a pass

[stone quartz]

A lot of Rode stuff seems to be built poorly

My videomicpro's audio cable developed a fault after only a handful of uses

[midnight crag]

would anyone happen to know how i can mix and match my speakers? i have a really nice subwoofer that takes RCA in and then i have 2 actual desk speakers that are really nice but just lacking some low end, but they are seperatley powered completley with no option for a sub

[warm scarab]

does your subwoofer have no passthrough

is it a passive subwoofer?

[midnight crag]

it is a seperate unit

designed to be surround sound but its pseudo surround, like the speakers all connect to the subwoofer that has an amp in it and controller etc

[warm scarab]

logitech jank?

[midnight crag]

nah its some random supermarket brand

[warm scarab]

what inputs outputs do these have

[midnight crag]

RCA

thats all for the sub/surround system

and my desk speakers are 3.5mm only

[warm scarab]

does it have rca out

[midnight crag]

only for video

is there any way i can do this in windows

because they are both connected to my pc now and working

[warm scarab]

I can't really recommend this since its a program that can outright break your audio drivers permanently but

one of the very few programs that allow you to output from 2 different devices is voicemeeter banana

[midnight crag]

would be nice if the realtek drivers did this

[warm scarab]

sorry wrong program

lmao

[warm scarab]

they may

[midnight crag]

if i had them installed lmao

oopsies

[warm scarab]

they broke constantly for a lot of people

[midnight crag]

oh wait no i do

[warm scarab]

but it does allow you to select which output is what

[midnight crag]

https://i.givinghawk.dev/images/Givinghawk//phlib.png

thats basically it

2nd output being the sub

[warm scarab]

click the stuff on the left

and check advanced settings

[midnight crag]

theres a whole bunch of nothing in there

might give vm banana a go

ok vm banana does it fine

[terse river]

Yall I got 2 questions I do t know where else to ask. I would like if you could give me suggestions for some headphones to wear in public. I don’t care abt noise cancellation, just has to be Bluetooth lmao. Anyway my real question is that I have a 5.1 speaker setup and the receiver I bought used on eBay died ofc. Any suggestions for a new one?

To buy new, I’m not taking that chance again

[warm scarab]

I recommend EQing the subwoofer out

make it not respond to like frequencies above 300hz

[midnight crag]

like this?

https://i.givinghawk.dev/images/Givinghawk//rv0mj.png

annoying that there is no like proper graphic eq visual editor

[civic beacon]

Mhm, it's quite a bit of a change if you're used to just dragging sliders up / down for each frequency, but this gives you a lot more control over the curves so... win some, lose some I guess.

[midnight crag]

im used to steel series sonar for eq, stopped using that because it fucked up basically everything

[civic beacon]

Seems about right... I used to love Steelseries way back in the early 2010's (when they had the Siberia V2 headsets) but somewhere along the lines they went full Razer and screwed up their drivers / software.

[warm scarab]

yes but no

it falls off so the shape is correct

but the hz which it falls off from is completely off

[elder thistle]

is that a -12db filter? if so that looks like 100hz-ish cutoff

which is pretty normal, maybe a little high

[dry mortar]

this is sorta mostly audio, but phone, and kinda half linux related
-Why is it that seemingly Samsung is the only type of phone with the Sound Assistant app, unlocking complete individual sound control per-app as well as things like voice changing directly through the phone itself; I've spent considerable time looking at other phones and apps and i Cannot find anything that comes close to the complexity of options offered by Sound assistant. .

[dawn cloud]

Hello everyone, i hope you had an amazing day. So, i have a question that is headphone related and i was wondering if anyone were able to help me.
I have a flight next month and i'm currently looking at the sennheiser M4 but i didn't find any information about the airplane mode, how to pair them/use the mode, is anyone able to help me?
i will pair them to a samsung galaxy s24 ultra, so i don't have the 3.5mm jack port and i might have to buy an adaptor (if they are compatible and they work)

[steel escarp]

@lean grove does your SMSL dac also have high pitched power supply noise when its on standby mode?

your su10 and my d6s have completely different power supplies, but just curious

[lean grove]

I have a d1se.

[steel escarp]

oh

spiky feet

[lean grove]

Is the noise leaking through the audio path or is it just making that noise

[steel escarp]

its not in the audio path

its like a charger brick making noise

also noise is gone when its not in standby mode

I guess some components are still receiving power when its powered off via the remote

[lean grove]

No. Its dead silent

[steel escarp]

hmm

[celest vessel]

does anyone have recommendations for headphones suited for gaming?

[livid ruin]

wired is okay?

what’s your budget