audio-tech

[warm scarab]

day and night difference

[tawdry gale]

I use earpods when I'm lazy

[warm scarab]

its just that most headphones don't give a shit about imaging and they aren't really wrong about not giving a shit either

most people dont care about it

[lean grove]

Imaging is stored in the balls

[warm scarab]

imaging is stored in your mom after im done with her

but yeah real talk imaging is neat but i dont think you should care too much about it either

there are pros that wore their headphones the wrong way around and smacked ass in pro league

and most of them wear cheap iems below their sponsored headphones

[tawdry gale]

^

[warm scarab]

if you really want to you could buy 2 pairs and use one for music and one for gaming

kind of a pain to manage and swap but its doable

[lean grove]

I have zero problems gaming with the 6xx

[honest spruce]

i just dont like a lot of "gaming" products, they just slap gaming on it, increase the price by 600% and ppl buy it cause of the brand lol. a lot of it is ironically the worst stuff you could buy for gaming too

[lean grove]

Shocked

[warm scarab]

I don't have problems with poorly imaging headphones either I just like it a lot when I can tell where an enemy is without thinking about it

[lean grove]

Appalled even

[warm scarab]

front stage is cucked in a lot of headphones

cant tell if its in front or behind

[lean grove]

That's a problem with the game engine

[warm scarab]

id think so too but I don't have this issue with r70x

hifimans in particular suck at front stage

[warm scarab]

well we gave you your options, do you want to fixate on gaming performance or is decent rounder good

ath r70x is pretty good at imaging like I told to nils and its a decent headphone all around, you could get that if you want to, its like 160$ second hand generally

and at 160$ imo its a good pick

on the other hand there is 6xx which is also desireable in its own way

[honest spruce]

The fact that you dont need great audio for gaming is relatively true, so what if we switch to music then? gaming part is whatever, everything works, so pick something for music

im past the competitive shit you need really good audio for anyways, cant keep up with the kids lol

[warm scarab]

if you want the sennheiser route 6xx, if you want the hifiman route, edition xs + ifi zen can

if zen can is expensive then magni 3+ will do if you are in USA

b stock xs should be like 300$ ish

6xx should be 200$

[honest spruce]

zen can an amp?

[warm scarab]

yes

not the air one

[honest spruce]

ill be plugging the headphones in a goxlr

[warm scarab]

its not a good item for that

[honest spruce]

i know its not the best, but im running my mic and everything through it

want a pair im able to use with it

[abstract imp]

Is their a better headset then 800s for music and gaming (specifically both in 1)

Price isn't rlly a concern so a 3000$ pair is fine but I doubt that expensive would yield one better for bith categories

[elder thistle]

that's the mc450 for me

new findings have come to my attention though regarding the temperament of the plastic on the earcup brackets varying between headphones

on two of mine it's rock solid. on the other it tore like dried up rubber

still currently seems like a rare issue though, that's 3 reports out of like 100

but yes, the mc450 is "faster" than the hd560s, and just a little faster than hd6xx/600 and edition xs

resolves overlapping sounds really well, and excellent precise+spherical imaging

more of an eq phone when it comes to music, otherwise it's bright and lacks bass

too surgical and resolving for poorly mixed/mastered music and possibly calmer genres

[livid ruin]

what's a faster headphone?

[elder thistle]

generally things like transients, instrument separation (non-stage), sometimes tight bass

the xs is pretty fast in this way, just not revolutionary or particularly competitive at $260 with other fast headphones

and lacks fine details so

[nova wagon]

most of the time I just called all of that transients
caught me by surprise, I know what you mean, but not the word I think most people uses?

[livid ruin]

fair

[tame bluff]

Hihi guys I need a little help here , I have a logitech g935 wireless headset and it's start to fail , so I'm taking an upgrade. I'm thinking to buy a steelseries artics pro nova wireless . You have other suggestions or a better one ? Thank you in advance

[livid ruin]

do the headphones have to be wireless?

i’d not buy those

[tame bluff]

Wireless is a must, what you suggest to me ?

[livid ruin]

is it for gaming?

what’s your budget

[tame bluff]

Not only

300 euros

[livid ruin]

momentum 4 for example

don’t buy the gaming dirt with that sort of budget

[tame bluff]

I did not know that brand

Checking out right now

[livid ruin]

don’t buy razer, logitech, steelseries, corsair headphones

[tame bluff]

How it connect to the pc ?

[livid ruin]

bluetooth and 2.4ghz

[tame bluff]

By a dongle?

[livid ruin]

yes

[tame bluff]

And a mic what you suggest?

This is senneiser right ?

[livid ruin]

my bad, my bad the momentum 4’s don’t have 2.4ghz

bt aptx at best*

[tame bluff]

Ho

Low Latency is important pls

[livid ruin]

momentum 4’s are sennheiser yes, for a mic… i’d suggest asking someone else here, just don’t buy the gaming junk from like logitech, razer, etc. and such

[livid ruin]

yeah mk mb

[tame bluff]

Alright thanks but even in bt is low latency ?

[tame bluff]

Mk mb?

[livid ruin]

aptx is much better than standard bt but it still has decent amount of latency

[livid ruin]

my bad

[tame bluff]

You any other ideas?

[livid ruin]

maybe gsp 670’s but those are kinda meh

@tame bluff

hard to say with your budget… how much do you care about the sound of the headphones

because if you want wireless, low latency, good sound you cannot pack those together at $300

unfortunately

if you’re not going overkill to get lower latency aptx is fine

[tame bluff]

And by cable ?

[livid ruin]

by cable yeah, pc38x, edition xs, hd 6xx, etc…

alot of options you have wired at $300

[tame bluff]

It's connected by USB?

[livid ruin]

usually 3.5mm jack + 6.35mm

or xlr, those i listed should all have 3.5mm

if you want to connect them via usb, purchase an adapter

[tame bluff]

And long cables I hope

[livid ruin]

yup

that’s mostly just gaming companies giving you short cables just to make your life harder

there are ofc some exceptions but most of the cables from non gaming headphone brands are long enough

[tame bluff]

So for wired with that range off price within a long cable whats is the best for you

[vagrant dock]

I have an interesting issue, I have a pair of Jabra elite 3s, and it seems to be only the left bud, it sounds good for a couple of minutes when I first take it out of its case, but after awhile it suddenly sounds like it's a lot more muffled and distant, it doesn't seem to be an issue with the right bud only the left, i was wondering if anyone had an idea on what could be causing it

[honest spruce]

Anyone tried the airpods max?

[tawdry gale]

Yep

[haughty girder]

I can tell you this much: it's not worth it.

[honest spruce]

what they like

[honest spruce]

they ass?

[warm scarab]

ass

[tawdry gale]

ass

[honest spruce]

i like the minimalistic design, currently have a pair of px8's

[tawdry gale]

so u want to replace ur px8 with something more discrete?

momentum 4

[honest spruce]

Tried em, pretty decent

Does feel cheap with the full plastic thing going on

[tawdry gale]

If u can try hps, u dont need to ask us

Just trust ur ears

[honest spruce]

Only tried those, tried the momentum 4, px7 and 8’s

[leaden linden]

Thought I would share my recent musical frustration project.

Got and old (90s) keyboard (piano) from my parents to use with Ableton, however it has MIDI out and I need to use USB. Easy I thought, so I went and bought a "MIDI to USB converter" for $10. It was the same one which was shown on all sites so I thought it should do the job.

However, once recived. It did not work. They keys would get stuck and its a 1/5 chance that the key input would even go through. Being an engineer, I decided to pull this device apart and reverse enginer it to see what was going wrong. After a couple hours in a rabbit hole I discovered it doesn't even begin to follow the MIDI standard.

Seeing there was a missing point for cheap MIDI to USB I decided to develop my own, cheap and small as possible. Currently 3cm long and only $3 per unit, a cheap MIDI to USB (only midi in) that ACTUALLY FOLLOWS THE MIDI STANDARD. Soon to be open sourced to prevent anyone else buying the terrible ones currently available.

[tawdry gale]

Plastic is good, cuz it makes the hp light

[elder thistle]

I want lithium-aluminum alloy headphones

or maybe just lithium but it's pretty soft

if your headphones don't catch on fire in the rain, your build quality is off

don't play with doorbell batteries

[haughty girder]

just use magnesium metal

[past grotto]

Can anyone tell me if Ill get any quality benefits between 320kbps and 1411kbps and above (difference between spotify and apple music)

[lean grove]

Try the free trial and find out.

[past grotto]

Thing is, Im using apple music

but apple doesnt like me trying to share a joint subscription with someone, unlike spotify

[lean grove]

what kind of music do you listen to

[past grotto]

Alternative, rock, indie/pop

I had tidal at one point

[lean grove]

see if you hear a difference between these two

[past grotto]

one sec

[past grotto]

they sound very close
but then again im running it through bluetooth 💀

but the flac one does have a bit more clarity

tidal family is only £16.99

and its got all the gimmicks n stuff that hifi plus once had

[lean grove]

i think if i didnt have the side by side, i wouldnt notice i was listening to the mp3 file if you switched them on me

i have hi-res files at my desktop for when it matters, but when im at work or riding my bike i use spotify and really it has never been a problem for me

if you're the type to really want that extra 5% from your music, might be worth to spend the extra bit of money every month

or make your moocher friend pay their due

[past grotto]

yeah

i pay £18.95 for apple one already and i only need music and icloud

[haughty girder]

for this one specifically

I think something is wrong

I'm not too sure

there's some parts in her voice in the upper frequencies that just sound really weirdly artifact-y

Hmmm that looks normal

yea I'm not too sure what's going on there

it's good enough that I wouldn't care

I listen to spotify every day

yea I keep A/B blind and I can tell which is which

which is really weird

[lean grove]

The flac to me sounds more spacious and has more depth. And a lot of that spacial info is in the upper frequencies.

All I did was export it from audacity. One with flac 24 bits and one with mp3 320kbps

Feel free to experiment

[rancid swift]

anyone here had their amplifier for their speaker system make a burning smell, but no visible smoke?
because im thinking its dust from the amp heating up, and the fan in the back blowing it out, causing a dust burning smell
(amp: Pioneer M-IS21, roughly 24 years old)

[lean grove]

Does it still work

[rancid swift]

yep

but i had it on vol 16 and it smelt like a burning smell 💀

[lean grove]

It shouldn't be getting warm enough to make a burning smell

[warm scarab]

@lean grove I got into a sound engineering program

How does it feel that after 104 hours I will be licensed to say that "in my opinion as a sound engineer" after every recommendation I make

[lean grove]

Is that the ones that involves steel rods that go in your peepee

[rancid swift]

it was getting to the revving point, ill show u what I mean

[warm scarab]

as a sound engineer in training you shouldn't listen to nils

as a sound engineer in training I must say he has terrible advice

[lean grove]

"as an expert in sounding you should listen to me"
-klaus after overpaying for a certificate

[warm scarab]

paid 0$ 😎

[lean grove]

That's too much

[rancid swift]

@lean grove

[warm scarab]

yeah they should be paying me instead

but society

[rancid swift]

see this, right?

[warm scarab]

as a sound engineer in training I see that

[lean grove]

Klaus is an expert in shoving steel rods in places God did not intend, he does indeed see the photo

[warm scarab]

thats a weird ass speaker ngl

my opinion as a sound engineer in training btw

[rancid swift]

it was reaching and pretty much staying on that line

when doing it

that was for only 3 mins

[lean grove]

Yeah idk. That seems like something got broken. Maybe keep it away from curtains or anything flammable but if it works it works

[rancid swift]

nope

not near curtains

or in the sun

or in extreme heat

[lean grove]

"just my collection of gasoline filled balloons"

[rancid swift]

im usally very good with tech, especially audio, but this one...

i replaced the amp, it just sits in the top of my cupboard now

[lean grove]

Sometimes this just happens

[rancid swift]

it is 24 years old, been in dust, etc, was my dad's stereo

but...

[warm scarab]

open it up and clean it

not sure how we can help you

[rancid swift]

it stopped making the smoking smell, even when i tested the same volume, without the sub I had, also without any speakers connected, it had the most faint inside smell, but its strange

idk

[warm scarab]

clean it

if you have a thermal camera use that to see what is heating up

a really shitty one will do

[rancid swift]

ill probably chuck it out when i definitely know I don't need it, I got a theater amp rn, its so good

[warm scarab]

see if anything inside is oxidized

[rancid swift]

(even if the watts are higher then what the speakers specify)

[rancid swift]

I was, but...i got a better amp, so...

[rancid swift]

havent taken it apart yet either

also, does anyone have 15 inch pa fenda speakers

like me?

(also got a crappy lg stereo)

(and a logitech x-540 sub without the transformer, the motherboard sitting in the case to seal it up, and a cable coming out the power port, to connect to my stereo)

(also got a samsung bluetooth speaker)

(and im only 13 years old 😂 )

[warm scarab]

ok so

you have a better amplifier

and you are going to throw this into the trash

but you are asking for advice?

no offense but in what way can we help you

[haughty girder]

yea but normally the artifacting on 320mp3 is not this noticeable

it sounds more like 256 or 192

idk it's weird

not a big deal, though

good enough that I probably won't be bothered by it

[rancid swift]

I was asking if anyone knew what was wrong with it

And if not, I'll eventually find out

[fossil zinc]

Anyone know of a good modern up to date Bluetooth receiver with an optical out.
Looking to get a modius, jotenhiem 2, lokius stack.
Just want a wireless connection to my iPhone

[stone quartz]

I love these old amplifiers with power transistors

Probably use more power idle than a class D one does flat out lol

[pliant crow]

Which iems around the 100 euro range would you guys suggest for mainly gaming and a little bit of music

[floral grove]

Looking for shorter hd600 cables on Amazon. Are there any difference between $10 cable and $25?
Is it like gold plated hdmi situation?

[tawdry gale]

Aful explorer, truthear zero red, xuan nv, artti r1, artti t10

[tired crown]

Truthear zero red

By far the best for that price

No competition

[pliant crow]

Simgot em6l any good?

Read a lot about it on reddit and people seem to suggest it a ton

[pliant crow]

Simgot em6l is what i am looking at rn

[tired crown]

no

linsoul is terrible

[pliant crow]

why

[tired crown]

linsoul makes terrible products

if those were $20 they would be bad

[pliant crow]

Than why are so many people speaking so highly about them

[tired crown]

nobody highly reccomeneds them

unless they know nothing

[pliant crow]

so Truthear zero red is the best option for me?

[tired crown]

yes

by far

[tawdry gale]

The nozzle comes off

And theres pillow bass

[pliant crow]

okay

thanks

[tawdry gale]

Linsoul doesnt own simgot

Linsoul owns ziigaat, thieaudio and kiwiears

[candid cosmos]

Zero red for those who like bass, in a not crappy way, for me it's still too much

[tawdry gale]

I guess u own something like moondrop lan now?

[candid cosmos]

Blessing 3, golden ages, stellaris (won't be blindly recommending them lol)

And a few more

As for cheap ones - that's another story

[tawdry gale]

Blessing 3, ye I own it but I'm eqing it to dusk, its too bright stock

[candid cosmos]

I like the zero blues more f. E.

Basically anything non-crinacle target

[tawdry gale]

So u like midbass?

[tawdry gale]

Funnily enough, crin tuned zero blue

[candid cosmos]

I like anything that sounds good to me xd

[candid cosmos]

That's true xd

Idk still like them more coz not that bassy

[tawdry gale]

Well zero blue is midbass focused

[candid cosmos]

But I'm also considered weird cause I do like moondrops vdsf target

[tawdry gale]

Blue is more bassy for midbass

Less subbass

[tawdry gale]

Vdsf is the old meta

[candid cosmos]

Funnily enough normally I do like subbass

Normally

But I have to have some highs still - and the rest in general, crinacle loves to downward slope everything, which I don't really like

Might be a thing why I do prefer the blues, they do have more high-end

[tawdry gale]

Do u listen to b3 stock?

[candid cosmos]

Anyways, there are pretty few iems I really just like to actively use, one thing that annoys me most in both zeros is that they are horribly uncomfy to me

[candid cosmos]

Jup

[tawdry gale]

So ur brightfi + basslet

I'm lofi and treblet

[candid cosmos]

I really don't know how I would call me, I just know what I do like xd

[rancid swift]

nice

specs?

[high steeple]

Pipe bomb

[rancid swift]

yeah nice, vintage stuff (basically)

amps these days are digital ones

not analog

[warm silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1155914555088699433/1302488065859911741/computer_talk.mov?ex=67284c09&is=6726fa89&hm=8a330de7c6bfdc07bb321ac42ec57482f3b289c388f697b0d4bf302406609f0a&

had some fun with a playstation controller

maybe more #creative but def audio related

[stone quartz]

It is a QSC USA 900

Looking to run a pair of them in bridged mono mode to power some subwoofers

Claims to do 900 watts at 8 ohms in that mode

[rancid swift]

Oh, QSC? That's like the best, along with JBL

My current power mixer is behringer ERUOPOWER PMP3000, 1200W

[stone quartz]

Yeah, I'm still waiting for the ones I ordered to arrive

[rancid swift]

And some old boxy fenda speakers, pas

[stone quartz]

Behringer stuff is pretty nice

I like their DSP power amps

[rancid swift]

Yeah

I like the new K series QSC has got, that would be some nice PAs

Anyways

[stone quartz]

Their stuff is quite expensive new

[rancid swift]

I'm a bit of a tech nerd, especially sound and lighting, don't mind me

[stone quartz]

But I guess you're paying for quality

[rancid swift]

Sure are

They are loud

And sound good

2000W for sure, ain't faking it

Unlike some crappy brands like vonyx

[stone quartz]

I think Vonyx is basically the same as QTX, Skytec, Ibiza etc

Not very good

[rancid swift]

Skytec is vonyx I think

The same company

[stone quartz]

Ah

Probably rebranded because their reputation got so bad

I've noticed Mackie did that even though their stuff is decent

[rancid swift]

Yep, vonyx is the new remake

Am I yapping to much?

[rancid swift]

Ohh, ik that brand, what's the new one? Or the old one?

Their stuff looked decent

[stone quartz]

It's still Mackie, but the logo makes no mention of it

[rancid swift]

Turbo sound is ok

Not the most great though

[stone quartz]

They used to be better

[rancid swift]

Average sound

Agreed

[stone quartz]

The best PA I've ever heard is L-Acoustics

18 inch subs down to 25Hz

[rancid swift]

Oh nice, mine is Sony 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[rancid swift]

Do I know that brand? Is it the one I'm thinking?

Show me a pic of the logo

Pls

[stone quartz]

Can sort of make it out

They're always at festivals

Those subs were going for 6 grand each used

[rancid swift]

Ohhhh, that's the brand

I wanted to find that brand

But I didn't know the name

Just the logo

Yeah, they have good sound

Ty for showing me the brand

Btw Australian or a different nationality?

[stone quartz]

Those subwoofers were the first thing that managed to overwhelm my phone mic

[stone quartz]

British

[rancid swift]

I can hear where it's blocking out higher frequencies

[rancid swift]

Ok, I'm Australian

Btw

[stone quartz]

Ah, okay

There are some good audio brands from Australia

[warm silo]

qsc is pretty okay

[rancid swift]

what do you like?

[warm silo]

I'm a meyer guy

[stone quartz]

Meyer is great

Californian, right?

[warm silo]

Yup, very close to where I live ;)

[rancid swift]

Ig Meyer doesn't exist in Australia

Noooooo

[stone quartz]

Martin Audio are pretty good as well

[warm silo]

I think they sell there, just way more common in the states

[warm silo]

?

[rancid swift]

I'll just have to deeply search

[warm silo]

you can get the stuff if you try hard enough lol

[stone quartz]

Some things just don't make it to Australia

[warm silo]

https://meyersound.com/news/australian-reseller-network/

[stone quartz]

Not enough of a market

[rancid swift]

True

[stone quartz]

It took Steam forever to make the Steam Deck available there

[warm silo]

https://www.systemsound.com.au/

they have meyer

[stone quartz]

My local theatre uses Meyer speakers

I'm always worried they'll bring the ceiling down

[warm silo]

haha well if your rigging designer did a good job, they wont

[rancid swift]

💀too much bass?

[stone quartz]

Yeah

If you put your hand on the exterior wall of the building you can feel the vibrations lol

[rancid swift]

You should be stressing about my house vibrating apart 💀

[warm silo]

meh thats intro level stuff

I had the windows in my house flexing on halloween from the subs in the front yard

[rancid swift]

Damn, I need some more subs

I only have two boxy fenda PAs

Some dual 18s will do

[warm silo]

this was with dual 10"s

[stone quartz]

That reminds me of this video I saw https://youtu.be/NCliewYFIaw?si=X6zJVpWXlL_UvQzt&t=282

[rancid swift]

Watts?

[stone quartz]

Almost shattered the windows

[warm silo]

turns out when you mix crazy speaker engineer with living space constraints, crazy stuff happens. I think those 10" drivers had some crazy 4" excursion on them

[warm silo]

dont exactly know..honestly watts arent the determining factor

[rancid swift]

Bro my uncle was shaking his neighbours house with only 2 sonos subs

[rancid swift]

Yes and no, depending...well...more size

I g

[warm silo]

especially these days with watt ratings being all over the place

[rancid swift]

Yeah

[stone quartz]

Too many companies are advertising with peak wattage

[rancid swift]

True

[warm silo]

amps like the ones from schiit only claim like 20w of power but can really drive some speakers

[stone quartz]

A 10 watt tube amp will blow your socks off lol

With efficient speakers

[rancid swift]

Anyone here think old stuff sometimes is better then new stuff with quality?

And lasting

[stone quartz]

It can be

[warm silo]

lol the founder of Schiit and I ran in to each other and had a 30 min talk about amp ratings and efficiency

[stone quartz]

More easily repaired, too.

[warm silo]

most of the time, yes

[rancid swift]

Yeah

[warm silo]

I usually buy vintage audio equipment over newer stuff

[stone quartz]

I would like to buy some powerful speakers, but I don't have enough space to appreciate them

[warm silo]

fair enough

[rancid swift]

Should I share something?

[warm silo]

kinda why I use studio monitors for everything in my house

[rancid swift]

Something that I thought blew my amp?

But didn't?

[stone quartz]

Sure

I swapped my studio monitors for some cinema speakers

They were too flat and boring

[rancid swift]

https://youtu.be/xgjXtJQf1G8?si=HZongGq1oTec-Hg0

This is a banger, and it tests out your speakers

[warm silo]

if I wanna have fun I just throw some DSP on them

[rancid swift]

(Brutally)

[warm silo]

I exclusively use studio monitors, meyer, or Bang & Olufsen in my house

[rancid swift]

I just have some stereo speakers

[stone quartz]

Have you tried Void Acoustocs stuff before?

[warm silo]

nope

they look...goofy

[stone quartz]

They do

[rancid swift]

I use a theatre amp with Pioneer speakers

[rancid swift]

Goofy ahh

Who would put that in their house for bookshelf use?

PA use, ok

[warm silo]

id much rather take some 2100lfc and lina

ungodly combo lol

[rancid swift]

You guys pulled apart computer speakers?

[warm silo]

many many times

how i got in to audio equipment

[stone quartz]

I used to

They're all equally shit

[rancid swift]

I pulled apart an X-540 (logitech 5.1)

The satellites, and the sub

I only kept the sub, still have it

[warm silo]

need to watch some garret claridge lol

[stone quartz]

The Z5500 was the only decent system Logitech made

[rancid swift]

Ohh, him, the guy with tones of speakers

[stone quartz]

I like the port design they used

Allowed for some decent lows

[warm silo]

one of my bass testing songs

[rancid swift]

He had a vid on blowing computer speakers

[warm silo]

many of them lol

[stone quartz]

Did anyone see his Peavey amp explode in a recent video?

[warm silo]

yup

[rancid swift]

He also blasted the Anzac stuff, and hurt his hearing

[stone quartz]

He really mistreated his CS800

Powering lightbulbs with it

[warm silo]

it was for the lols

[rancid swift]

And found a melted university sound pa horn, still working

In the bush

[warm silo]

one of my favorite videos from him was that

another great test song

[rancid swift]

Give me a sec to get out my pulled apart X540

[stone quartz]

I watched him going right back to when he was still at school

Setting off the fire alarms constantly

[warm silo]

I've been watching since 2012

[warm silo]

the megaphone videos

were amazing

literally made the trap siren sound irl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSsI_1-KM5Y

[stone quartz]

https://youtu.be/daJLHC-PJbU?si=ZegIzdsg0i13EWN8

[rancid swift]

Damn

[warm silo]

0:57 is an amazing moment

[stone quartz]

That echo

[rancid swift]

Oh, last time I played music on my stereo, it was moving my stuff In the top of the cupboard

The bass was loud

[stone quartz]

Wish I could say the same

My 10 inch subwoofer isn't cutting it

[rancid swift]

Mine's 8"

70W

Sony active sub

[warm silo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9V9utInMWA

[stone quartz]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226389825921 Tempted to get a pair of these and build some enclosures tuned to 20Hz

[rancid swift]

My lights were shifting

[stone quartz]

Those QSC amplifiers should be able to power them

[warm silo]

I have very mixed feelings on qsc

love me some powersoft though

or lab.gruppen

[stone quartz]

Both very expensive

Especially the Dante stuff

[warm silo]

even though lab gruppen is music tribe :(

[warm silo]

but very good

[stone quartz]

Yeah

Will last decades

[warm silo]

buy once cry once

[stone quartz]

Crown stuff isn't bad either

Not as good as it used to be

[warm silo]

yeah

owned by harman so meh :/

[stone quartz]

My friend peaked his XLS2502 all night and it survived

As did the speakers

[warm silo]

Protection is working overtime lol

[stone quartz]

They are those low end Peavey ones

Chipboard construction

Shrill highs

Don't play all that low

[warm silo]

I had some turbosound iq speakers at a gig and they went into protect 4 times in a single night because of how hard I was pushing them lol

[rancid swift]

Crown is in Jbl speakers, like the prx 615m

[stone quartz]

I'm not that fond of active speakers

I fear all the vibrations will shorten the lifespan

[warm silo]

I love them and will almost always choose powered if possible

[rancid swift]

Pros and cons of passive and powered

[warm silo]

If they are designed well it will be fine

[stone quartz]

And sometimes they use they glue on the components which turns conductive after about 5 years

[rancid swift]

Yeah

[rancid swift]

Depending if you get a good or bad brand

I think

[stone quartz]

Velodyne and KRK are known for it

Both fairly decent brands

[warm silo]

Powered:
-better integrated drivers, crossovers, amp circuitry
-Way more simple to set up and design system with
-Really good integration into a larger system with speaker monitoring (on bigger end stuff at least)

Passive:
-More cost effective
-More options/modular systems
-Often times lighter per box

[stone quartz]

Easier to recover from an amp failure as well

Unlikely to happen, though

[warm silo]

Yup

Especially if you get good quality stuff

[rancid swift]

There, pros and cons, one thing about powered is portability, and one thing about passive is the amp is not built in, so you can use different amps, and if an amp failure occurs

[warm silo]

Yup thats under modularity

[rancid swift]

Yeah, but amps probably don't last as long as speakers can in general, so in that case passive had the advantage

(For general good quality)

[warm silo]

I have amps from the 80s still going strong

[rancid swift]

Damn, I have passive fenda speakers like 27 yrs old

[warm silo]

Ive seen many amps outlive speakers

[rancid swift]

Yeah, if the speakers blow

[warm silo]

Not even that

[rancid swift]

Yk

[warm silo]

Just natual mechanical stress and rot

[rancid swift]

Yeah

Like rust, voice coil, cone, stiffening

[warm silo]

On consumer end stuff I agree with your point

Once you get really high end its the whole buy once, cry once, treat the equipment well, and it will be with you your whole life

[rancid swift]

These days powered speakers are very advanced, so powered is a good option over passive

[rancid swift]

Yeah, that's right (unless it's faulty)

[warm silo]

The only reason I still work with passive is for legacy installs

Like if there’s already wiring in the walls for passive and whatnot

If I have a choice, I go active

[rancid swift]

Passive is better for fixed sometimes

[warm silo]

Also good quality gear from reputable manufacturers will get really long term support

[rancid swift]

Yep

[stone quartz]

There's a cool company here called Full Fat Audio who make a reasonably priced 10KW amp

Can get them used for about £2500

Two 5000w amps completely separate in one chassis

[rancid swift]

That's handy

[warm silo]

Peak?

[rancid swift]

Or continuous

[stone quartz]

They don't say unfortunately

But it's at 2 ohms

[warm silo]

8 ohms is reasonable

Its probably RMS++

(Aka close to rms but rounded a bit)

[warm silo]

Ah that makes more sense

[stone quartz]

40A at 240 volts is crazy

[rancid swift]

So 8ohms for 1500w, 4ohms at 3000w, and 2 ohms at 5000w (peak each amp pretty sure)

[warm silo]

Nah its possible those are actually somewhat accurate

[rancid swift]

So ohms change as you go up in watts

[warm silo]

Yup

Because of the difference in resistance

[rancid swift]

My amp does the same

[stone quartz]

They're just so ugly though lol

[rancid swift]

But it has something else

[rancid swift]

Pink amps, lol

[warm silo]

A general rule of thumb I’ve found to work for quick n dirty specs is /2 ohm is 2x rated watts

[stone quartz]

You run two 4 ohm speakers in series to get 2 ohms?

[warm silo]

I dont care if its ugly if I or an audience dont see them 90% of the time

[stone quartz]

Or is it parallel

[warm silo]

I meant when reading amp spec sheets

[rancid swift]

If it's hidden away in server racks it's fine

[stone quartz]

Powersoft made an ugly one as well

[rancid swift]

Look at the manual for further details

[stone quartz]

Looks like a Chord Mojo

[warm silo]

Lol

[rancid swift]

Lol

[stone quartz]

They made one of the most premium amps on the market look like a toy

[warm silo]

Tbh I kinda love it

Theres somthing about how it looks almost friendly but is still a beast

[stone quartz]

I prefer more traditional designs

[warm silo]

Fair enough

[rancid swift]

Agreed

I like the look of the qsc gx amps

Like the gx-5

Or the gx-7

[stone quartz]

My school used to use those

[rancid swift]

My school does use those 2

[warm silo]

Yorkville had some amazing amp designs

[stone quartz]

Someone messed with the gain knobs and blew all the speakers during assembly

[rancid swift]

I'm 13 btw

[stone quartz]

Haven't heard that name in ages

[rancid swift]

Damn 💀

[stone quartz]

Garret got some cheap yorkville subs years ago

[warm silo]

Fuckin retro 80s design

[rancid swift]

The teachers when I was in yr 6 adjusted the eq on the mixers accidentally, so it was so muffled

[warm silo]

The classic “just press everything”

[rancid swift]

Now it's tinny and no depth

[rancid swift]

So true

Luckily I'm in the tech crew, so I'm setting everything up

[stone quartz]

I like vintage amps

[rancid swift]

That's a clean look

[warm silo]

And this is why I lock systems away in racks and just use touchscreen controls systems that only show what I want them too

[stone quartz]

I have one that looks like it was made in someone's garage

Both inside and out

[warm silo]

Ew

So much wasted space

[rancid swift]

This is a garage piece

[stone quartz]

Cheapest ones available in the 80s lol

[warm silo]

Anyone remember the old pyramid amps

Also I will say, my favorite commercial amps of all time are from TOA

[rancid swift]

Nope, unfortunately, Im not like, 20, 30 or above...but I know tech well anyway

[rancid swift]

TOA has some good stuff

[warm silo]

The 900 series is beautiful

[stone quartz]

Crestron make some good installation amps as well

[rancid swift]

Unfortunately that is not the case in schools...

Actually..

[warm silo]

All the schools ive installed system for have them

[rancid swift]

They are gonna have everything in server racks in the new arts hall that's at my school, it's being renovated

[warm silo]

Alot of modern systems are getting control panels yeah

[rancid swift]

Nice

[rancid swift]

My school is probably gonna have the same thing hopefully

[stone quartz]

The amps were just in an unlocked room in my school

[warm silo]

Also the modularity of 900 series is chefs kiss

[stone quartz]

Hence people fiddling with them

[rancid swift]

So I don't have to spend an hour setting up

[stone quartz]

That's nice

[rancid swift]

Slick

[stone quartz]

You know its a commercial amp when everything uses screw terminals

[rancid swift]

Definitely

[warm silo]

And is just a solid chunk of metal with modularity

[rancid swift]

Lol

[stone quartz]

Bose make some nice commercial amps

[warm silo]

The only plasic part in those things are the power button and knobs

[rancid swift]

That is nice

[warm silo]

How are they

Because I just dont like bose

But havent installed any of the conmercial amps myself

[stone quartz]

Supposedly 2000 watts into 4 channels at 4 ohms

But bose can't be trusted with ratings at all

[warm silo]

Yeah I just dont touch bose at all

Except for the S1 series

[stone quartz]

The equipment is really long lasting stuff, but I hate their marketing

[rancid swift]

I only looked at bose for some waterproof 6 to 4 inch pa wall mount speakers, but they were discontinued

[warm silo]

I also just dont like the bose sound signature

[stone quartz]

Mid-forward I think

[warm silo]

And they just fall apart the second you try to push them

Due to the amount of dsp and lack of proper hardware to achieve real performance

[stone quartz]

Their Bluetooth speakers lose nearly all the bass after about 50% volume

And it's massively exaggerated at low volumes

[warm silo]

Yup

Though thats common on quite a few bt speakers

[stone quartz]

JBL is the worst for it

[rancid swift]

Yeah, getting a sub instead with a proper system is best, but jbl is for portability, at least they sound decent

But you can adjust the eq in the app

Is the party box any good?

[stone quartz]

It's as the name suggests

Not really any good for critical listening, but it'll make for a good party.

[warm silo]

Id take 2 bose s1 pro+ over a partybox

[knotty stream]

Is there a discord server/channel for buying tips in speakers?

[high steeple]

What are you looking for?

Use case room size etc

Music preference

Looking for new or vintage gear? Etc many factors to consider

[knotty stream]

My parents are looking for a speaker that can play radio, and if it sounds nice enough make it have bluetooth aswell so I can use it too

Budget is around 200 usd

[warm silo]

your best bet would probably be a receiver with some bookshelf speakers

no one makes good all in one/boombox style systems anymore

https://a.co/d/07T0Mju

https://a.co/d/bt693Mp

a bit over budget but would be way better than any boombox style system

[knotty stream]

alright thank a lot

[rancid swift]

Same, just wondering if it's any good. Btw do you know nexo?

[stone quartz]

Think this amplifier needs one of those delay mods lol

Can't be good for the speakers

[steel escarp]

@lean grove good purchase or nah? (speakers)

Neumann KH 120 A

[stone quartz]

Those are nice

Almost as sexy as the KH310s

They look pretty serious with the optional mounting bracket

[steel escarp]

these speakers should not do bass 💀

the kh120

[stone quartz]

They're best with the accompanying subwoofer

That allows you to do room calibration as well

Without the need for REW or similar

[warm silo]

yup

[rancid swift]

That's good, nexo has got some nice sounding stuff for theatre's

[stone quartz]

Does anyone know where I can buy silk dome midrange drivers?

Like the ones in ATC speakers

[untold nest]

ok, audio tech gurus. I am looking to modify a set of Grado SR-80's (old school model) with a detachable cable. Where I get confused is which sockets to buy. They will be used with a 2.5mm (at cans) to 3.5mm cable.
Anyone know if these are the right sockets? https://www.amazon.com/Keple-2-5mm-Socket-Stereo-Chassis/dp/B0BGQ8C3XD?ie=UTF8

[hidden pendant]

https://www.parts-express.com/speaker-components/hi-fi-woofers-subwoofers-midranges-tweeters/midrange-midbass-drivers-full-range-speakers/conematerial/Soft Dome

Or go on ebay and search infinity kappa polydomes, some pretty nice midrange drivers

[hidden pendant]

I've got one

[steel escarp]

EPOS I Sennheiser GSP 600

Has plenty of bass, neutral mids and non fatigueing treble

[stone quartz]

Thanks

[steel escarp]

Sadly there are 0 headphones worth buying with the feature set you listed

[ember pagoda]

partybox is good

[stone quartz]

That seems cheap for a 20,000 watt amp

[sage frigate]

can anyone recommend me any top of the line warm sounding headphones

[ember pagoda]

dt770 pro

[fresh basalt]

is there any real difference in audio quality when going over SPDIF/TOSLINK vs going over a 3.5mm jack?

[mint skiff]

lot of fake Lab Gruppen stuff on the market

[untold nest]

Are you looking for closed or open backed?
And what is your budget range?

[untold nest]

solid suggestion

[haughty girder]

3.5mm jack is more susceptible to interference given it's an analogue signal and it shares a ground between L and R

[sleek lily]

They're kinda the opposite of warm sounding and they're definitely not top of the line @sage frigate

They're v shaped

[fresh basalt]

im trying to spend the smallest amount of money possible, to get something.. nice... for listening to music at my desk during work (home office, so speakers). was wondering if it was worth trying to find toslink speakers

[hidden pendant]

I mean the source is what really matters and the quality of speakers

[fresh basalt]

flac rips direct from CD

[hidden pendant]

best quality would be an external dac and an amp

whats your budget

[fresh basalt]

£0 right now... im trying to work out, for my ears, if its worth bothering replacing my wh1000xm4, just so i can have some speakers on the desk

exploring options right now, to see how expensive it gets, or how cheaply something "nice" can be got

[hidden pendant]

ive got some massive sony apm-22es speakers for my desk lmao

you can get something that sounds really good for pretty cheap now

[fresh basalt]

other than the headphones, this is what is on my desk right now, and exists purely to not have headphones on for the odd time i need to have an audio output that everyone can here https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-Pebble-Minimalistic-AUX-Type/dp/B07VVP8BGD?th=1

so... something better than these 🙂

[hidden pendant]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=twister_B073VM7JQ1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

heard alot of good things about miccas

You're in the UK right?

[fresh basalt]

i am yes

[hidden pendant]

Check Facebook marketplace for any sony ta-s2 amps

Compact amp that's super nice

And they're usually available for super cheap

[fresh basalt]

tbh, i could probably get a stolen and and some stolen speakers from the local crack addict on FBM for £27, rather than buying new 😄

thats a good idea 😄

[hidden pendant]

real

Also check for sony apm speakers

might be a bit too big for your setup though

[fresh basalt]

only sony speakers anywhere near me are these generic looking "came with a cheap hifi system in the 90s" sony speakers

[soft rune]

are these good iems

[untold nest]

we all know that some of this is going to be subjective.

[hidden pendant]

Send me your city or zip ill check marketplace for you

[rancid swift]

Don't you agree that Sony seems to stick with the same style?

[lean grove]

to me it seems like if you really just want the best performance per dollar speakers, nuemanns is where its at

how are they

[steel escarp]

I discovered that if I remove my display

they sound insane

having a display between speakers really messes with them

I even placed them further apart

not the same

[lean grove]

yeah ive found the same thing

[steel escarp]

the livelyness of the center image is just not the same

[lean grove]

the reflections off the screen just fuzz everything up

[steel escarp]

but they are pretty nice, 50Hz is a bit boosted. hiss is almost not audible

I gotta get a subwoofer at some point

[rancid swift]

My speakers just have grills, my sub has it on still, it's a Sony sub, 8", doesn't matter anyway

[steel escarp]

got them for 800 combined

neumann kh120 a

[lean grove]

this is gonna be the best display for speakers

[steel escarp]

real

just VR headset

[rancid swift]

Wait, as in TV's?

[steel escarp]

display as in my monitor

man, why does monitor mean two things

both speakers and display are called monitor

[rancid swift]

Yeah, true, just context is important for them

[steel escarp]

I got the SMSL D6S dac

[rancid swift]

To get it right

[steel escarp]

it will arrive tomorrow

im just happy it has a remote and is cheap

but interesting to see how it sounds, SMSL gets a lot of hate

[rancid swift]

I just got my speakers separate, and use a cable to plug it into it

[steel escarp]

I can use smsl d6s for my tv in the future too

it has coax and optical

[rancid swift]

I use a 7.1

For my tv

7.1 surround sound speaker system, sonos

Soundbar, two back speakers, and the sub

Its physically 3.1, but it's a 7.1

[steel escarp]

5.1

at best

[sleek lily]

Yes but like there is a point where something is so absurd that it's no longer subjective

Like if someone asked for a salty snack and I recommended them a stick of cotton candy

[neat solstice]

100usd what gaming headset do you recommend

[verbal shoal]

i want a headset for my ps5 ill be getting for black friday. Any good budget ones? ideally like 40-60 maybe like 80 max idk

was looking at this: https://www.amazon.com/Razer-BlackShark-V2-Gaming-Headset/dp/B09PZG4R17/ref=pd_aw_ci_mcx_pspc_dp_m_m_t_1?pd_rd_w=NqysF&content-id=amzn1.sym.d11b9c88-462e-4abc-9e66-813df83ecfbd&pf_rd_p=d11b9c88-462e-4abc-9e66-813df83ecfbd&pf_rd_r=SRZ2E6R453PW74YSAWY1&pd_rd_wg=W9Xbv&pd_rd_r=c873240f-0251-4c96-bde5-1380a885d087&pd_rd_i=B09PZG4R17&th=1&psc=1

[warm scarab]

hard avoid

[warm scarab]

pc37x

cloud 2 if you want a bit cheaper

[untold nest]

I don't think it's that absurd. I know that they're a studio headphone and I certainly wouldn't describe them as campfire warm, but they aren't flat and analytical either. So calling them mildly warm isn't that much of a reach. There are certainly better suggestions but from a price to performance standpoint, this is a decent suggestion. Especially since we know nothing about what the person asking is using to drive them (not that that need much).

[verbal shoal]

why

id really appreciate any recommendations

wouldnt really wanna spend over like 80

[sleek lily]

theyre really not flat either

theyre v shaped

bassy and treble

warm generally means mids heavy

which is again its opposite

its kinda akin to recommending an ultrasone as a dark headphone lol

audio is subjective but again there is a point of lunacy

[warm scarab]

they are stupid shaped

subjectivity is fine but there are parameters to subjectivity

buying something that goes against most harmonics researches and recommending it is like

kind of out of those parameters

[dark forge]

posted something in #off-topic as its not exactly audio tech
but any audiophiles here might enjoy seeing/not something your see 😅 💜
#off-topic message

[haughty girder]

I recced Cloud 2 already...

[verbal shoal]

whats thar

recced

[haughty girder]

HyperX Cloud 2

oh

recommended

[stone quartz]

Yeah, I've seen a ton of clones on aliexpress

[elder thistle]

I like these for $50

the main issue is their tonality, which takes free eq software and less max volume to fix

they can sound more controlled and tighter, and are able to keep overlapping sounds separate from eachother a little better than the cloud II

however the cloud II has more precise direction for sounds in most games

and is more sane tonally

those are the major differences anyways

[stone quartz]

Does anyone know which components can cause a hum on the output of an amplifier?

Pretty sure bad capacitors can, but I assume there are others

[cedar quarry]

Anyone here know if it's better to buy cmf buds pro 2 from amazon.com and ship it to Canada using that or the nothing website

[fresh basalt]

anyone had any experience with, or know anything about these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/AZATOM-EB100-Bookshelf-Acoustics-Enclosure/dp/B098TNS13Y

[stone quartz]

I haven't tried those, but the tweeters look pretty cheap

Looks like a plastic diaphragm with potentially a piezoelectric transducer

[fresh basalt]

for reference, they are competing for desk space with these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-Pebble-Minimalistic-AUX-Type/dp/B07VVP8BGD

[stone quartz]

Will definitely be better than those

[fresh basalt]

bought the pebbles when i needed SOMETHING to output sound that wasnt my headphones

now the home office is a completely different room, instead of a corner in the bedroom... so would like something under £100, that preferably acts as its own 24bit DAC, or, takes toslink/spdif... that sounds better than those creative ones

bluetooth 5 would be a bonus, but not needed

[stone quartz]

Those are probably about the best you can get with those features for under £100

The reviews are very favourable at least

[buoyant vale]

edifier mr4 are worth a look too

[stone quartz]

PreSonus Eris 3.5BT Gen 2 are pretty decent as well if you can forego the inbuilt DAC. They are £109.99 on Amazon, though, so slightly exceeding the budget.

Usable down to about 45Hz without a sub

[fresh basalt]

would the built in soundcard/dac with 3.5mm out on the motherboard be fine to run those at non-shit quality?

[stone quartz]

As long as there aren't any unpleasant ground loops, should sound fine

Those ones you posted initially are quite compelling, though

[fresh basalt]

i should be able to hear the noise because of that even on these creative speakers right? just crank the volume with nothing playing? and listen for buzzing

[stone quartz]

Pre-amplified sub out, HDMI ARC etc

Yeah, if you turn the volume up all the way you probably will

[fresh basalt]

ah ok... just tried, complete silence

[buoyant vale]

the eris are awful

https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/presonus_eris3.5_mk2/

[stone quartz]

They're quite close to flat I believe

[stone quartz]

Ah yeah, that is quite v-shaped

Completely disregard my suggestion

I heard them in a music store a while back and thought they seemed decent for the price, but it wasn't a proper listen.

[meager nexus]

Hello guys,

I have an LG G2 65 TV and I was wondering what kind of receiver and speaker set would you recommend for this?

Note that I can only spend on Amazon, so if you have clues, make sure to recommend from there.

From what I heard Denon Receivers are nice, but I am not sure what speakers could I look for them?

I definitely need to support Dolby Atmos/Vision, maybe even DTS HD and probably I am best of with a 7.1 setup.

[warm scarab]

Dolby vision on a speaker?

I'd certainly like to see that

[unique wind]

[meager nexus]

I was refering to the receiver... but being an ass does not help me, thank you Mr Klaus Flamethrower

[warm scarab]

mad

[lean grove]

Klaus is mad he can't use his skills

[meager nexus]

Well, you pick up on someone for being new at something...

but sure

[warm scarab]

oh im sorry were you also a sound engineer in training

thats what i thought

[lean grove]

💀

[buoyant vale]

💀

x2

[lean grove]

how much do you want to spend

because a proper 7.1 sound system isnt cheap

[meager nexus]

$1200-1300

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-dc-hmm-thinking-gif-4575661

[lean grove]

you might wanna find a different server. i dont trust anyone in here (myself included) to give you the best possible advice here for 7.1 surround. but my suggestion would be to get a home-theater-system from monoprice , then a nicer subwoofer from monoprice (one thats THX certified), and find a reciever from sony, yamaha, denon, or onkyo that has the features you want. room calibration on a per-channel basis would be my #1 most recommended feature since it will allow you to cheap out a bit on the speakers and still get good sound. i think some of the sony amps have this feature but im not too sure.

That being said, i would urge you to consider a stereo system instead. the sound quality difference between a $1200 stereo system and a $1200 7.1 system is huge.

[meager nexus]

Well yeah, I am European, so i won't pay 1200 for a Stereo xD

Will do some extra research, thanks 🙂

[terse river]

hey guys i wanted to ask for help to get a receiver

i bought a used integra dtr 30.1 off ebay and it ofc died after a week, with the standby light blinking, which i found online means its not really fixable

i have a 5.1 setup with a powered subwoofer, and in the future may or may not want a second zone

im still in the middl eof deciding

anyway, any receiver reccomendations for what im looking for, I would prefer if its cheaper

[terse river]

looking for something hopefully 300 or less?

idk if thats a reasonable price but

[real prism]

Okay i feel like im goin crazy cuz I swear I saw a video about it by Linus and can't find the product anymore. I think im misremembering it.

Okay the product is an Wireless earbud for hearing impairment, designed not necessarily as a hearing aid but helps with hearing. I remember they said they used it in the club, and were blown away that they could listen to the music blasting while having an actual conversation during the noise. I just can't find the product though

[steel escarp]

airpods pro 2

[real prism]

It wasn't apple

[steel escarp]

in any case, they can do all that

[real prism]

Really? Idk the video was different I guess.

It was specifically advertised for hearing impairment assistance

Ooh I found it, took me like 2 hours actually. It was seinhouser clear plus

[steel escarp]

seinhouser

[soft rune]

are these good iems

[ocean pulsar]

yep, they are supposed to be a max of 55 usd tho

[haughty girder]

looks like Amazon Canada?

and yes, they're good. great even.

the only thing to keep in mind is that they're fairly large

[soft rune]

yessir

[soft rune]

like the piece ?

[haughty girder]

the nozzle

the part that goes inside of the eartip to go into your ear

but the entire thing is just big

[soft rune]

ohh

[soft rune]

is that uncomfy?

[haughty girder]

depends on your ears

for me it was alright

[soft rune]

hmm @haughty girder what aout ehse

[haughty girder]

Super comfy

pretty small in comparison

but the sound quality isn't worth the price

also wait for black friday because that one goes as low as 32 bucks

but even then

Truthear Gate and Salnotes Zero IMO were as good for cheaper

meanwhile the Truthear Zero Red are basically the best iem under 120CAD

[soft rune]

What do u think i should get @haughty girder overall

[haughty girder]

Depends

what eartip size do you normally use?

[soft rune]

NO IDEA this is my first time getting iem wanan switch from headphones for gaming

[haughty girder]

Ahhhh

[soft rune]

im probably a medium

[haughty girder]

tbh

I'd say grab smth like the Truthear Gate first

around 20 bucks

then if you like that, great. If not, find out what you liked and didn't like

[soft rune]

they dontship to canada @haughty girder

i mean the y do

its just not with prime and delivery isnt tuntil like nov 21

[haughty girder]

OH right

[soft rune]

nov 21 - dec 4

[haughty girder]

I bought the last one

I bought the black one

[soft rune]

nice do u like it

[haughty girder]

preferred white and gave the black one to a friend

yea

It's solid

it's my backup pair that stays in my bag for when my tws dies

wait

It's in stock

[soft rune]

i am amazon acnada

[haughty girder]

yea

https://www.amazon.ca/TRUTHEAR-GATE-Dynamic-Headphone-Interchangeable/dp/B0D5R334SH/

[soft rune]

oh what the heck was looking at a diff one

[haughty girder]

2 times

[soft rune]

but its only 3.6/5 stars

[haughty girder]

yea I'm not too sure about what's going on there

both pairs I got were new in box and perfect

I got the one with mic

[soft rune]

is it good for gaming

[soft rune]

okay i will look at it

on black fri

[haughty girder]

yea it's solid

I cracked my Zero Reds though

[soft rune]

why is truthear zero the best

[haughty girder]

so I've been running Cadenza as my iems at home

[haughty girder]

it just has some of the best bass extension I've heard out of an iem at this price

the Red ones*

I haven't heard the blue ones but I'm tempted to get one

they look nice

[haughty girder]

I've had these for about a year now? they're definitely more durable than the Truthear Zero Reds

the cable is a cheap xinhs 8 core

[haughty girder]

these travelled with me

these are the gate

The rest of the sub 20USD iems I've given away

[soft rune]

ooohh the cadenza

thats what im looking at

cadenza vs truthear zero red?

[haughty girder]

yep

Zero reds sound better IMO

different frequency response

but the Reds have better Bass

If Reds are an A then I'd give Cadenza bass a B- or C+

It doesn't quite have the same impact, but it's there and plenty usable

[soft rune]

awesomee sauce

how long will iems last if i take care of em @haughty girder

and u can tell me how these connect to my pc? its my first time is it just a 3.5mm cable

[haughty girder]

Well mine have been abused for a year and the left 2 pin connector started to slip

but that's because I kept taking it off and putting it back in

I'd imagine if you just keep the cable connected and take care of them, 2 years or more is doable

[soft rune]

okay

[haughty girder]

but yea I do not take care of my iems at all

[warm scarab]

they generally dont break

people just stop using them because of reasons like nexgen's

[warm scarab]

something gets a bit loose, paint chips off etc

[haughty girder]

Truthear Red.

[warm scarab]

are you showing me the microscratches

[haughty girder]

no there's a crack that propagates through the side

[warm scarab]

and from what I see it hasn't broken

owned

[haughty girder]

it hasn't completely cracked in half yes

but it was spreading

so I stopped touching it lmao

[warm scarab]

lmao

still

idk ive not met many people with broken iems ever

[haughty girder]

that was also because it was sat on while sitting on a hard surface.

[warm scarab]

its usually cosmetic defects that start to form from cheap material that turns people off

[warm scarab]

for like a good session or just momentarily

[haughty girder]

momentarily

I placed it down

someone sat on it.

[warm scarab]

oh

[haughty girder]

or more actually like

jumped and landed on it with their ass

[warm scarab]

is it made out of resin

[haughty girder]

yes

[haughty girder]

I have a tiny bit of superglue on the connector and it's been perfect

[haughty girder]

This is true

[warm scarab]

ive surprisingly never broken an iem cable either

thats generally the bane of my existence

[mortal pelican]

It is honestly impressive how good the Apple Dongle is for a cheap DAC lol