audio-tech

[unique wind]

truthear nova

[lean grove]

Do you need something to play music from your phone via a cable or do you genuinely need something without a wireless antenna on it

[uneven minnow]

No wireless connectivity. I work for the government and they dont want wireless stuff where i work. Cable only

Price doesn’t matter too much

[sage frigate]

I need ur help bro😔

[lean grove]

I don't want to help you.

[deep ridge]

Have you got any recommendations? - I am looking for something with a good noise supression tho 😅 - to clarify some things up, I'm sitting right next to the TV which sometimes is on 40+ volume - of course I could add some filters, but that doesn't stop all

[sage frigate]

Y not

[elder thistle]

rate my frequency hole

[lean grove]

1. You've been asking me to help you but you haven't even taken the time to describe your problem.
2. You seem impatient
3. I dont think we've ever had a single conversation but you have zero problems pinging me multiple times in random channels hoping that I can fix your problem for you.

[warm scarab]

I don't know mics with those capabilities honestly apart from sm7b

note that I am not praising sm7b, it should cost like 50$ maximum in an ideal world but it does do what you mentioned

[lean grove]

Also maybe don't sit next to a loud tv

[deep ridge]

That's not really something I have control over :p

[agile ledge]

thinking about upgrading to a rode pod mic, anyone know on a scale of good to bad where it lies? in terms of the buget

[lean grove]

Then really all you can do is put your mic as close to your mouth as possible pointed away from the TV.

[sage frigate]

yes I'm impatient
Yes we did not have a single conversation but its because I'm kinda crazy for all of electronics stuff and I didn't know that pinging u multiple times would annoy u so I'm sorry for that and my problem is given below. If u wanna help a fella out then please do, I would REALLY appreciate that man
I have this pair of bose qc 35 and a few years back my lil brother plugged these to an extension box with an airplane adapter and it completely damaged the extension box and also the headphones
so a few days back I managed to hook the drivers directly to the aux cable (cuz the drivers were still working) and the sound quality was really good but I wanted wireless so I hooked the speakers to some not so good quality bluetooth headset pcb but it the sound isnt as good. Any suggestion on how to fix this issue?

[lean grove]

No. I don't.

[sage frigate]

alr lil bro

[steel escarp]

average bluetooth noise cancelling headphone user

[odd plaza]

are these decent for $50 desktop speakers

Edifier M201BT

also saw the Pebble Plus 2.1's for the same price

[lean grove]

Edifier generally makes good stuff. I couldn't tell you if it's gonna be better or worse than the pebbles.

[haughty girder]

solid 2/10 recc

It's aesthetically a 9/10 for me

build quality is a solid 8.5/10

but the sound is really really bad

[agile ledge]

interesting.. any suggestions for smth similarly priced??

[haughty girder]

how set are you with wanting that style of mic

[lean folio]

Does anyone have solid experience with the Focal Bathys?

[random turtle]

hey i'm looking for durable over-ear bluetooth headphones preferably with ANC and/or low latency.
My budget is 50-70 €.
I'm not an expert in this so this is why I'm asking help, as per what I saw from the reviews nothing convinces me as it either breaks soon or quality is ass

[celest bolt]

Over ear headphones for 50-70 with ANC, if they even exist, would probably be absolute crap.

[formal tundra]

Just bought some arctis 7 nova pro are they comfortable

[hot marsh]

Ive got some decent ones, double his budget lol

[tired crown]

Turn the damn tv off

[tired crown]

No

[tired crown]

Get it the podmic sound great

[solar hedge]

Hey guys what is a good DAC/AMP to drive my 250ohm DT990 pro I want it for gaming and I've been looking at the Creative G6 but idk

[haughty girder]

If it works for your voice, great. It doesnt for most people

It's not a mic I can blindly rec to people

if you wanna sound like the snot from american dad then go podmic -

if you dead set on that kind of mic I'd be so much more comfortable recommending the Samson Q9u

though, SE V7 claps both

[haughty girder]

I don't recommend those headphones. Weirdly bassy and very sibilant.

Aside from that, if you're just using it on windows, even an Apple type C to 3.5mm dongle works just fine

[solar hedge]

Oh I already got the DT 990 pro (250ohm) I've just seen people recommending a DAC/AMP

[haughty girder]

in that case see if it runs off of your onboard audio

250ohm beyers aren't very difficult to drive

people overstate how much power headphones need

at the end of the day they're just vibrating a membrane to move a bit of air into your ear

the energy used in a loud fart is more than vibrating that membrane in a headphone.

[solar hedge]

It does work but sounds quiet with the lack if some bass but maybe EQ fix that

[haughty girder]

grab an Apple type C to 3.5mm dongle and use it as a dac

or CX31993

[solar hedge]

Alright I'll check amazon :)

[tired crown]

What would some good $150 +/- headphones for playing guitar

[haughty girder]

any

what kind of tone are you going for?

cause optimally you'd be running it through an amp

screw headphones for guitar and bass

but if you can't run an amp then any headphone decent for music will do

[violet egret]

I went on a run and I saw someone running with dt990

Y'all are crazy, as much as I like good sound I'd rather not get run over so I go with my afterzhockz

[tired crown]

no for hearing what im playing over my guitar

[haughty girder]

...

oh right

I have my monitors in front of me

and my amp behind me

if I can't hear my backtrack or whatever

I just either turn the amp down or turn my monitors up

[haughty girder]

I use galaxy buds fe with transparency mode

I also don't look at my phone on the road or whatever

best of both worlds

I get good audio (Galaxy buds FE clear preset sounds damn good) and I can hear what's around me

[haughty girder]

can you not use speakers?

[tired crown]

the guitar is louder

[violet egret]

I have buds 2 pro and I don't feel like the transparency mode is good enough yet

It doesn't convey the direction of that truck that is about to run over me well enough

Ig earbuds don't have good staging in general

[haughty girder]

then turn the amp down or speakers up

[quick badger]

yall i need help with my subwoofer

it keeps being wierd

idk how to say this

basically its escaping my desk

[elder thistle]

don't get the cx31993, it's not as powerful as cheaper dongles like a jsaux usb-3.5mm

you're looking for amplification in terms of voltage

if you have a budget more towards $50, you could get a $30 hiby fc1 which will get slightly louder, or pair a cheap dongle with a douk audio u3 (run off of a 2.1A 5v powerbrick

the u3 would be endlessly loud

and the more max volume you have available that you don't need, the more you can use it to boost the bass with eq

[solar hedge]

I wanted buy the sound blast x3 or creative g6

[warm scarab]

they are memes

save your money

[muted mural]

im looking at changing from focal bathys im looking for neutral or clear audio with a tiny bit of bass (tend to like dynamic eqs), closed back preffered

i dont really care if they are wired or wireless but i do lean slightly to headphones that can do both decently budget is under £800

[elder thistle]

dynamic eq's?

that's a pretty special order in terms of software

I also am not immediately aware of any vst's that can listen to and level match different music with different amplitudes

which would be a prerequisite if you don't plan to sit there tweaking a gain or threshold knob every time there's a different album

[muted mural]

my freelance paycheck came through so i brought my self the dan clark e3s

then for wireless im gonna do ft1 with one of filos dacs for bluetooth

[sage frigate]

The driver on left side is making more bass than the right one. Someone help me😭

[hot marsh]

Wtf is this shit

[sage frigate]

its bose quietcomfort 35. The pcb got fried so I directly connected the drivers to aux

ignore the board in the picture

[elder thistle]

it's possible that there's a difference between the air volume in the left cup vs the right one because of the battery and all

and that the pcb compensated for this

it's also possible one of the drivers is damaged

[oblique palm]

driver matching on these headphones also just tends to suck

[oblique palm]

You can choose to EQ or you can try to make a passive crossover. Good luck on the passive crossover, I'd just use a stereo parametric EQ and play with the values until it sounds right

[sage frigate]

I re soldered the connections and now they both seem to sound even

I didnt find a significant difference like I did before

[sage frigate]

Ohh thats def above my capacity😭

Also I wanted to ask that does directly hooking up the drivers to aux change audio quality?

[oblique palm]

yeah compared to using them wireless with onboard amplification and DSP?

[oblique palm]

absolutely does

[sage frigate]

wait no I'm not using the wireless board anymore

This is how it looks like now

[oblique palm]

So you're comparing plugging it in normally versus handwiring the connection directly from the input to the driver?

ah interesting

[sage frigate]

Yes

[oblique palm]

I wouldn't expect too much of a difference if anything

[sage frigate]

Ohh okay

I recently changed the earcups and it sounds worse😭

The disintegrated earcups sounded better

[steel escarp]

Lol the stock earpads are usually the best sounding

[sage frigate]

they're literally just 2 pieces of foam rn 💀

but still sound better

the new ones sound very bassy and muddy

its making the vocals sound muffled

[elder thistle]

are you the one that put the tape over the center-esque vents

[sage frigate]

over the what vents now??

[elder thistle]

the,

these have a large effect on bass when covered or exposed

[sage frigate]

oh damnnn

I did not know that

oh my god bro u were so right

thank you so much omg

[frosty patrol]

im in a bit of a dillema
i like stereo for video games but i despise it for music is there any way to make it so only one program uses mono while the rest is stereo

[sage frigate]

If u use spotify then u can change from stereo to mono in settings

[frosty patrol]

What a shame I don’t use Spotify

[cosmic wraith]

AKG K240 MKII
how am I for the future?

[warm scarab]

like

set back by 20 years?

[cosmic wraith]

Yes

Love retro

[warm scarab]

you are set well for the future if you time travel 30 years back

[cosmic wraith]

the old ones sound good I say.

[rocky spruce]

Anyone know how good a JBL duet NC will fare against a dt 880 ?

The Dt is 250 ohm if I remember well

[wet schooner]

Anyone got a suggestion for something like a Rødecaster duo but more budget friendly? I stream, do some youtube and Discord I have a shure SM7B running into a triton Fethead into a Behringer U-PHORIA UMC202HD. Was looking for something to replace the Behringer that would have abilities like noise gate, limiter etc etc on device without software on my PC so its agnostic to whatever system i plugin it in to

[wanton pivot]

apple wired earbuds

🙂

[warm scarab]

google midi mixer

[warm scarab]

noise gates, limiters and other features you mentioned aren't exclusive to hardware

you do them via software

there isn't a real reason to invest into hardware that does these things as long as you are on a computer

not unless you are making a full blown studio

[cosmic wraith]

look for akg, they are good.

[haughty girder]

for that you'd be loooking into dedicated rackmounts like the DBX286s that goes in between the mic and interface

again, either do software or be willing to put up with professional gear pricing

[rocky spruce]

I already have both headsets

[warm scarab]

then why dont you tell us?

you own both of the headsets, aren't you the one that should be telling us which is better

[rocky spruce]

Two reasons, one I'm an uncultured mf who never done any tuning to his headset, two I'm currently fixing the JBL and can't use it

[warm scarab]

you usually dont tune headphones unless you are a headphone engineer

[rocky spruce]

Tune or eq I kinda forgot

As I said I really don't know jackshit about audio

I'm just asking which one is better

[warm scarab]

the latter

id say like a solid 90% chance most people would prefer it

[rocky spruce]

Well thanks mate

I'll just use the JBL for travelling

[warm scarab]

but hey you might be the odd one out, who knows maybe you'll like the jbl better

if you ask me or most others though latter is the definite choice

[cosmic wraith]

of which?

[rocky spruce]

What ?

[rocky spruce]

I mean I'll see when I finally fix it

Rn I fixed the hinge

[cosmic wraith]

of which you would ?

[rocky spruce]

Now I gotta replace the earcups and the headband

[rocky spruce]

Of which you would what ?

I'm sorry I'm still bad in English

[warm scarab]

he says he has both

[cosmic wraith]

Romanian

[rocky spruce]

What ?

No I'm french

[cosmic wraith]

what a model

[warm scarab]

he already mentioned it before scroll up

[cosmic wraith]

Ok

[elder thistle]

pheonmenon

[elder thistle]

this looks mega df compensated in the worst possible way

eh...

well it seems to want more than 20db of ear gain

or almost 20db

[agile ledge]

Looking to get a mic that is really good at isolating noise and will just pick up my voice that isnt expensive, i thought maybe a small shotgun mic might be a ok option?

[rocky spruce]

I don't get it

[rocky spruce]

Quick question, I got tasked by a family member with finding a good Bluetooth headset for calls and conference (also decent at music and other thing)
So I found the quietcomfort and the Sony xm4 to be good but id like to have y'all opinions on those if you don't mind

Or any recommendations for other models who would be around 300 euro

[cosmic wraith]

Lol

[willow ruin]

I need an external budget friendly soundcard good enough for the beyerdynamics dt 770 pro 250ohm. Any recommendations?

I was looking at the focusrite scarlet 2i2 3th gen but that should not be strong enough for It as I heard

Or DAC or audio amplifier. Idk what these things are called, I just want to use them while playing PC and listening to music to get the best sound I am able to get

[plain quest]

Hey question somebody got I good tip on budget studio speakers for around 3 t 400 euros

[warm scarab]

you dont need one?

[willow ruin]

Wym? Your PC will probably be not able to use them properly cuz built in soundcards are trash for that

[warm scarab]

no?

its a sensitive headphone

unless your motherboard chips are particularly bad you should be able to use it with zero issues

or unless you want like a 10db eq headroom

[haughty girder]

most modern motherboards will be fine

250 ohm Beyers aren't difficult to drive

[willow ruin]

Alright bet I ordered them newly should arrive in like 2 days then imma try out

Thanks

[warm scarab]

the question should have been should i order dt770s

[stone quartz]

Does anyone know a decent source for speaker drivers that are not intended for cars?

[warm scarab]

a speaker amp?

[willow ruin]

why that? friend got one and says they are beautiful

found the limited edition for just 80€ bucks so i just ordered

[warm scarab]

that says more about his standards than the headphones themselves

[willow ruin]

Are they that bad? They were very good rated actually

[warm scarab]

They aren't terrible

just outdated

[sleek lily]

I kinda think I should make a company remaking vintage pads

Because I've noticed not many people have good old pads

[willow ruin]

What would be better for 80-100€?

Any recommendations

[sleek lily]

And it's rare to see people take as much care as figuring out foam polymer or density or even cover or connector material or density

But those are all things I have the know how to break down

[warm scarab]

akg k361

hd560s can be 105€ sometimes

or pc38x

[lean grove]

Parts express

[stone quartz]

Thanks

[green steeple]

i can finally piss my neighbors off again now that the power cable to my sub is fixed

2007 surround sound setup my beloved

[broken sable]

So i just bought the moondrop aria 2 with the mc2 cable (3.5mm) because i want to use the inline mic. But my lian li A3 has a seperated audio and mic jack. My type c port on the front io is not working because my motherboard does not have a type c header. I dont think i can buy an audio interphase because i will be moving back and forth from my uni and my house so i want ease of transporting my setup. So should i just buy and audio mic 3.5mm splitter or a usb A to 3.5mm dongle dac?

[chrome island]

Hello guys and gals

Anybody here using wireless headset solution in a larger organization? We're looking for a solution with around 50-100 users per floor, so need something that wouldn't kill all wireless bandwidth 😄

[chilly oasis]

what are some good headphones for gaming with really accurate surround sound for footsteps

[viscid tangle]

Depends on the budget?

[sage frigate]

Hey,
I use peace APO to tune my headphones. I wanted to boost frequencies to have a more clear sound of instruments and to achieve that I am using the treble gain effect. What frequency do I have to increase (in treble gain bar) to have that?

[warm scarab]

depends on the headphone

[viscid tangle]

And to clarify you want headphones and not a headset, some people don’t know the difference

[sage frigate]

ohh

bro my issue is that

[warm scarab]

https://i.redd.it/ez2km0qyoj101.jpg

[warm scarab]

what headphones

[chilly oasis]

Budget is around 150 aud and yea headphones cause I got an external mic

[warm scarab]

dt880 250ohm

[sage frigate]

I hear every other instrument and voices that I DO NOT hear in my normal earbuds (Oneplus nord buds 2) but I do not hear the ones I can easily hear in those for example violins in the intro of Lovely by billie eilish

[sage frigate]

Bose quietcomfort 35

[warm scarab]

https://autoeq.app/

[sage frigate]

I did that

[warm scarab]

try the profiles in here

[warm scarab]

didn't like the results?

[sage frigate]

it sounds bad kinda

[sage frigate]

nah

[warm scarab]

fair

[sage frigate]

bro look

these headphones

were completely fked by my little brother who plugged the airplane adapter to extension box

so I wired the drivers directly to an aux cable

[warm scarab]

oh

yeah the headphones do dsp

[sage frigate]

does that ruin sound quality?

[warm scarab]

because you plugged in your own stuff

it doesn't do dsp anymore

[sage frigate]

yeah

[warm scarab]

so you don't get the original tuning

yeah its kinda fucked

[sage frigate]

I tuned it myself

[warm scarab]

you an still salvage it but its not going to be intended sound

[warm scarab]

this is the response you have probably

[sage frigate]

yeah ofc

[sage frigate]

mine is 35 2017 ones

[warm scarab]

there are different ones?

[sage frigate]

ye

mine are prob the first ever bose qc 35 series

headset

[warm scarab]

dont know then

[sage frigate]

I mean the profile IS available for this model

but as u and I said its fucked

[sage frigate]

but wow the frequency response is impressive

I am NOT achieving that on my one 😭

@elder thistle u got any recommendation?

[elder thistle]

there are 2 things at work

well 3 sorta

1 could be that you have a different version than what's in the measurements here

2 is that the headphones you have are not exactly the wired/passive equivalent of the correct headphone if it ever did have that measurement

because tape(if still there), removed mass, and unknown amount of chamber seal

and 3. your ears will create treble peaks and dips that are unique to your ears

[sage frigate]

yes I definitely removed tape!!

[sage frigate]

ohh

bro dont get me wrong, the current tuning that I have done for my headset is really good

I am not even exaggerating when I say that this headset was sitting in its box for literally 6-7 years

I used jbl quantom 300 before these, but its usb adapter broke and they sounded very flat and bright which annoyed tf outta me, where bose ones came into clutch

so at the end of the day I am happy with what I have rn but I'm just being a little selfish here I guess

which is trying to get more detail out of this headset which was bout to be thrown away 😭

[elder thistle]

generally speaking, "detail" (at least as I define it) isn't lost by frequency response unless there are severe dips

but on less technical* drivers, this takes less db to cause the masking that can be a cause of detail loss

I have an advanced youtube tutorial you may or may not want to try

[sage frigate]

I'll take a look at it

also I am so sorry if it sounds like I am talking rubbish here cuz I am very new to audio community

STILL LEARNING

[elder thistle]

it'll require a couple hours and a relatively trained ear/brain that'll let you associate volume across time

[sage frigate]

OKAY

[elder thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZznIewsj7vs

first 12 minutes should mostly explain what you're trying to do

[sage frigate]

okayy thank you

also just for curiosity, is there a way I can check the freq. response of the headset I own?

[elder thistle]

if you mean the bose qc35 you patched up, no. not unless someone measured the same exact object or at least the same model/sku that you have, if the mods you did don't change the overall sound compared to passive mode

the rear side of the driver on a closed back headphone is a delicate thing. the removal of a thin circuit board or not having an airtight seal around the headphone jack or other parts can cause large changes not only in the bass but potentially the mids and highs as well

headphones with bass adjustment sliders like the cloud alpha have the switches on the earcups only cover or uncover really small holes

and a change in the overall air volume or geometry inside the cup can change how much of the midrange frequencies from the rear of the driver reflect off the cup and go back into the ear via the baffle filters

uh

but qc35 doesn't have baffle filters iirc, since it would complicate the ANC stuff

[sage frigate]

wow I understood like 25% of what u just typed

[frozen yoke]

any recommendations for over-ear ANC headphones for me as a Basshead? Seeing that's it's Prime Big Deals days, I wanna spend on my first ever pair of headphones

thinking of getting the Sony Ult Wear but just want to get opinion and recommendation

[lean grove]

If you want bass I don't think anything has more bass than the Skullcandy crushers

[cosmic wraith]

Ok?

[haughty girder]

now THAT'S a bass tuck

shame it starts at 500hz

[hot marsh]

My new car has a random subwoofer or whatever in the trunk

[frozen yoke]

I wear glasses, will that bass slider thing shake so much that it's unbearable

[icy mirage]

heyo crosspost from tech chat

[haughty girder]

clean your desk

[icy mirage]

no

[hot marsh]

Mayonnaise

[molten lotus]

Peach

[hot marsh]

Artyom (birthday boy)

[molten lotus]

Explodes

[smoky terrace]

anybody know of third party software that enables sidetone? i got one of the last pairs of epos drop H3X just to realize they have basically no software support beyond the basic windows audio, the epos suite only supports the wireless headsets

[unique wind]

mud cannons

[reef pebble]

hello what would be good listening headphones for gaming or movies, i have a separate microphone (i dont mind wired)

[lean grove]

Software is too slow for sidetone. It has to be hardware for it to work and not be annoying.

[primal fulcrum]

Finally Bluetooth 6.0 has launched.
All bluetooth <6.0 headsets now sucks.

[dapper quartz]

Anybody suggest which Hifiman headphones has the best spatial soundstage? Alot of digging leads me to believe its either the HE1000 V2 or HE1000 V3 (stealth magnets).

Or is there another Hifiman that has better soundstage

[low remnant]

are there separate microphone modules sold for mmcx cables? I want to make a diy cable and i want it to have a microphone as well

or could i just, get cheap earphones with a microphone and take it out from there

[warm scarab]

akg k1000 might be it

oh sorry you said hifiman headphones

[dapper quartz]

Mainly cause I got the Ifi Zen dac/can stack signature V2 HFM edition. Doubt it matters much mix and matching different headphone brands with that stack but love the HFM spacious ear cup design on the Edition XS

Dayum AKG K1000 looks like a beast

[low remnant]

or maybe just a lavalier microphone?

[warm scarab]

it really doesn't mean much dw about it

and i dont think you can drive the k1000 with zen can either

[chrome imp]

Any good receiver or speaker deals on prime day?

[wispy tree]

Dont know if this is a good place to ask but i cant decide witch headphones should I buy, im stuck between arctis nova 5 and hyperx cloud alpha wireless

[lean grove]

You can, just not to very loud levels.

[warm scarab]

if it doesnt give me 110db at peak im not calling it driving

[lean grove]

Well you don't drive until your blood alcohol content is 0.50% so what's your opinion worth anyways

[warm scarab]

not wrong?

[lean grove]

Fosi has some decent deals, I think

Za3 is $130 ish

[warm scarab]

ill never adjust to fosi not being intangible garbage

[lean grove]

Idk what they've changed

ASR measure baiting got to them maybe

[sleek lily]

It makes he6 seem easy to power

[elder thistle]

why was it created

[weary palm]

anywhere I can get good 3rd part replacement ear pads for my soundcore Q30s?

ideally not pleather ones bc those degrade really quickly

[sour kayak]

are JBL 710 headphones good for gaming? (im wondering if theres a delay i should worry about)

[lean grove]

If you're using Bluetooth yes there is a delay you should worry about

Unless you're using aptxLL

[sour kayak]

whats that

[lean grove]

It's a bluetooth codec

Idk how to set it up on PC. But it shows up on mobile sometimes

[sour kayak]

is there any other headphone alternatives within the same price pracket that can work for gaming?

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/eOXCEsTyv7s

[haughty girder]

Windows BT drivers suck because Microsoft doesn't want to pay to use AptX HD or LL

[lean grove]

Can you get a dongle that supports it?

[haughty girder]

no because it still has to go through Windows audio system

the only option would be like BTA30

where it takes the analogue signal and turns it into digital ldac or aptxll or whatever

[meager berry]

yay or nayhttps://drop.com/buy/drop-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones?mode=shop_open&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20546672818&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_keyword=&utm_placement=&utm_network=x:c::&utm_device=&mode=shop_open&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw9p24BhB_EiwA8ID5BjoZP2WtY6R3NGYHLZZy-te7WIPDzUkoQ9639JJzbvAsXmod3tFanhoCmU0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[warm scarab]

400se is cheaper and better so pretty bad

id also get an amplifier for those which makes the overall money spent like 210$ in total though so

[elder thistle]

I mean, wired ones

the world of detachable cables allows people to have headphones at a computer desk where the cable never snags or gets in the way

this is what I do with 3m cables / my main headphones

optionally a lot of wired headphones can have the detachable cable left in an unlocked position so the cable plucks right out if it gets pulled on

[sour kayak]

Jbl 710s also have detachable cable i think but i haven't tried them out yet so I wanted to know if someone that had them knew if it would be any good after getting plugged in

[willow ruin]

My beyerdynamics dt 770 pro were delivered, they work with my motherboard yea Volume is alright but the bass is kinda... Non existent

Would a fiio e10k help?

[elder thistle]

do you get more bass if you push them against your head

[willow ruin]

Is that fr? Idk gotta try at home in like 3 hours maybe

[frozen yoke]

after saving up enough, decided to cop the Momentum 4's as my first Over-ear ANC headphones

Prime really coming in clutch

[grizzled summit]

Hi, has anyone tried shp 9500 for gaming? Are they any good? Mainly for fps games at the very least

[dapper quartz]

Would you guys recommend upgrading from Edition XS to
HE1000 Stealth or HD800s or Arya Organic
(without taking price or build quality into consideration). Looking for biggest soundstage/immersion

[supple robin]

probably motherboard

[willow ruin]

You mean it's due to motherboard? I think so too, just can't decide which DAC AMP to get. Found a used fiio e10k for 30€, would that do the job?

[sleek lily]

I was never a fan of 4xx

Literally pay $20 not though and get open box he560v4 @meager berry

Imo it's the best modern round cup hifiman

And it doesn't really have anything it does bad

It kinda just works for everything

It's a true generalist can

[elder thistle]

generally speaking, yes

very competitive with accurate direction of sounds for it's price

though it'll still vary a little from engine to engine

[grizzled summit]

It currently cost around 55usd in my country and was wondering if its worth it at that price

[frosty ocean]

I think my GMRS radio might be broken...
That or people just stopped transmitting since I last used it

[steel escarp]

the Fiio FT1 Unveiled is real

[frosty ocean]

Does Fiio make decent audio tech outside of amps and dacs?

[steel escarp]

Fiio ft1 and ft3 are nice

[fresh basalt]

So, the older 5.1 surround systems for PC. They use 3 of the 3.5mm connectors on the back to connect. And, my kids TV only has optical out. Is there a converter that can take optical in and output 3x 3.5mm?

The 5.1 system has no other input other than 3x 3.5mm. at all

[frosty ocean]

The answer is "yes" but that wont help you

[frosty ocean]

There are two solutions: One is the one you asked for, and might cast up to 50 dollars.

And the other solution is one you didnt ask for, but might only cost you 5 or 10 dollars

[fresh basalt]

What is the other solution?

[frosty ocean]

buy a reciever with optical in at a thrift dtore for 10 dollars

do you already won the "surround" speakers? and they use 3.5mm?

[fresh basalt]

Didn't think of that. Assumed the only other option was gonna be "throw the system in the bin" 😁

[fresh basalt]

Yes, they have been sat in the attic for 5 years. I used them for about 5 years prior to that. Tested them on my pc yesterday

[frosty ocean]

i mean, you're probably also gonna buy some speakers at the thrift store to...so almost...unless you think you can horwire the existing satelites

I think there are optical to HDMI adapters, but that's just converting to another standard

unless you have a GPU with HDMI and you know that works for audio without a monitor present

[fresh basalt]

He's been though 5 different "hdmi extractors" and they all die within a few weeks

[frosty ocean]

wait, that wont help...the speakers are still 35μm

[fresh basalt]

Tbh, I might just still the speakers and buy him a cheap modern sound bar, will probably sound better, and will be less of a rube goldberg machine

[frosty ocean]

you can probably find a cheap pcie soundcard that has the 5 350nm ports for about 20 dollars

[fresh basalt]

Its for his TV

[frosty ocean]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vO1Icl-5Y7M/maxresdefault.jpg

define "tv"

does the TV even have surround out?

it's looking like just buying a reciever with hdmi at the thrift store is looking more and more reasonable

[fresh basalt]

TV has optical out, which it claims can do 7.1. not sure of the model number, but it's a 2024 Samsung 32"

This is all so I don't have to feel bad about throwing the speakers away 😁

[frosty ocean]

2024 model samsung should have ARC...so i think you can probably do hdmi out for audio

[fresh basalt]

I'll see what I can find. Thank you for your help. But looks like I might just end up giving them to the charity thrift shop

[fresh basalt]

Exactly that is what I had in my mind

Is there a link/price for those?

[frosty ocean]

it's 50 dollars

[lean grove]

Keep in mind that even though you might have 5.1 speakers, and something to spout out a 5.1 signal, in order to use all the speakers you need source material that can utilize it or something that can "upscale" the 2.0 channel into 5.1

So your kid might only be able to use the 5.1 with certain games, movies, music, or TV shows on Netflix or w/e

[frosty ocean]

https://www.amazon.com/Analog-Surround-Decoder-Repeater-Function/dp/B071KXR3G2/

[fresh basalt]

He has an Xbox series x. Most games he plays are 5.1 capable

[frosty ocean]

Sweet. I'm poor, I just have the One X

[fresh basalt]

So did he until he stole my series x 😁

[supple robin]

that or a usb c dongle and usb c to a will work

[frosty ocean]

I got mine for 70 dollars at the thrift store...and I've barely played it. I started playing Blue Dragon, then I got distracted. Works great with my 4k monitor

[frosty ocean]

Speaking of USB...does xbox support surround oudio out via USB?

[cosmic wraith]

Fiio jt1 ok?

[steel escarp]

wouldn't get it

[supple robin]

dont know

[fresh basalt]

He mostly uses it to play eafc. He says it feels better on console than on pc. I think it's just an excuse to steal my Xbox

[frosty ocean]

Earth Defense Force?

[willow ruin]

Just read it only supports up to 150impedance tho, would that mean I get less quality sound like flat bass and stuff?

[warm scarab]

you don't "support" impedance

[willow ruin]

Idk and don't care if it "supports" or is optimized for it, I just want to know if it's good for the DT 770 pro..

[lean grove]

The e10k is a noob trap in the community. It's the cheapest thing that doesn't look "cheap" simply because it's chunky and has a volume knob.

You can get similar/better performance from a moon drop dawn pro or fosi ds1.

That being said, the dt770 aren't hard to power. If you don't think they have enough bass, buying a nicer amp will just make them louder, it won't add more bass. But you can use EQ to add more bass with the extra volume you get.

Oh you youre buying a used e10k

I mean. For $30 that's probably appropriately priced

But I can't say for certain it's gonna do what you want it to do

There is a bass switch

So maybe

Yeah go for it man

[willow ruin]

Hmm Im also in other servers trying to get good recomms and now I'm confused AF lol. You mean a good amp will just make them louder but not change anything in quality / bass, also I have heard:

Since my motherboard powers them alright with great volume when set to max but missing bass, it is due to weak power delivered and an amp should help with that

I like bass and the bass switch looks fun to play with but general audio quality is more important to me, if there is anything WAY better for like 20€ more or sum I'd rather stick with that if you got any maybe?

[lean grove]

I can't think of anything better for 20 euros

[willow ruin]

Don't want to get the DS1/DS2 cuz I'm just able to get it off like AliExpress or sum here and don't want to wait weeks

[lean grove]

I say send it and get the Used e10k.

Maybe demo it if you can before paying

[willow ruin]

Oh I meant 50€, cuz 20€ more would equal that

I sadly can't it's to far away

[lean grove]

Rip.

[frosty ocean]

I think the last few times I bought headphones for the winter it was the same set of 15 dollar JVCs...lol, sorry ;(

[willow ruin]

@lean grove opinion to Soundblasterx g6?

[lean grove]

Those other people in the other server aren't technically right.

For the dt770 specifically, the bass region is actually easier to power than any other region of the headphone since that's where the headphone driver naturally resonates.

If you think the 770s are missing bass, then either you just really like a ton of bass or something is wrong with your headphones.

[willow ruin]

That should be strong enough I suppose?

[lean grove]

G6 is okay. I put it on the same level of the fiio as "noob trap" if you're paying full price. I know a few people that are happy with their g6.

It has EQ and some fancy bells and whistles

[willow ruin]

Yea some said the seal may be broken? I should press them against my head to see if I get more bass with it? Don't know if that's either a joke or a good point but still didn't come to try out yet

[steel escarp]

after disassembling fiio ft1 I can confirm that its built really well. only point of failure I see is the headband screws getting a tiny bit loose over time

[lean grove]

No Jackson is correct. If your headphones don't wrap around your ear correctly, the bass won't work

[steel escarp]

lmao nice factory foam

almost looks more professional than what ZMF does

[willow ruin]

Huh alright next time I'm on PC I'll try that out for sure

[frosty ocean]

What's the consensus on multi-driver headphones?

[lean grove]

Unnecessarily complicated

[frosty ocean]

Same for buds?

[lean grove]

If you can get a multi driver headphone to work, good for you. But there's no inherent benefit over making a headphone with multi drivers other than marketing to bozos who don't know better.

[willow ruin]

But did I understand correctly now: an amp will not help me with stronger bass / better sounds, just with volume? If that's the case actually I don't need any since I'm fine with my volume or am I missing some

[frosty ocean]

What about multi-drive speakers?

[lean grove]

Not for buds. The smaller drivers can have problems doing bass and treble all the way from 20-20,000hz. So to an extent it's justified

After like, 2 or 3 drivers my uninformed opinion is that it's unnecessarily complicated for iems

[frosty ocean]

But, the implication here is that that problem can just as easily be rectified by just not using small ear devices?

[steel escarp]

you can tune an IEM way more easily than a headphone, so people can fit multiple drivers in there and make it sound coherent

[frosty ocean]

I have some 2 driver in ears, but I spent less than 25 on them...so it was just a novelty anyway

[steel escarp]

headphones are harder to tune, and the size of the drivers has to be larger compared to IEMs, there is no way to make a good sounding compact solution pretty much

[lean grove]

Idk how you can make an iem or earbud without using small drivers

[lean grove]

And multi driver speakers are perfectly justified .

2 drivers is the normal.
3 drivers becomes interesting. Anything more than that is flexing and overcomplicating things.

1 driver speakers are uncommon normally but they offer the most simplicity at the cost of treble and bass performance.

[steel escarp]

the legendary stax IEMs

larger driver

[frosty ocean]

Headphones

[frosty ocean]

Looks like old hearing aids or something

[lean grove]

@frosty ocean

[frosty ocean]

There's a tiny piano in there...jk, that's a card-edge connector

[steel escarp]

btw, the open back modded fiio ft1 was not good lol

[lean grove]

There are many good multi driver iems.
There are many good multi driver speakers.

Every multi driver headphone that I've seen has been gimmicky and bad.

[steel escarp]

800Hz-2.4kHz area got a massive scoop

[steel escarp]

skullcandy crusher headphone got a vibration motor built in

it kinda acts as a driver

[lean grove]

Yeah true.

It's an edge case

Because I still wouldn't consider it good

But people like it so i guess its acceptable

[frosty ocean]

If I put tow speakers on either side of my bed, is that a giant headphone?

[lean grove]

If my grandmother had wheels would she be a bike?

[frosty ocean]

There's a joke in there that i dont wanna make

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/A-RfHC91Ewc

[frosty ocean]

You know Fetaccini Alfredo is just Mac and Cheese with different sauce and different pasta

[lean grove]

If you have a dish made entirely from sauce and pasta, you can turn it into an entirely different dish by changing the sauce and pasta

[frosty ocean]

If you search Amazon for professional headphones, but sort by price...dont you just get regular headphones...

"Anything is a studio monitoring headphone if you're brave enough"

Behringer BH 470 Studio Monitoring Headphones (BH470d2) $17.90
Is Behringer even still a good brand? was it ever a good brand?

[lean grove]

Afaik they've always been the budget brand haven't they

[frosty ocean]

i have no idea. im the guy who buys 15 dollar JVCs....rememeber

[steel escarp]

man, my he1000v2 stealth is so detailed, its like fun for like 10 minutes, but now its just fatiguing hearing every single little thing

[warm scarab]

it can but thats generally for very insensitive headphones that clip the amp and not what you have

2 things i can think of are, you have a weird headshape that demolishes seal

or your motherboard dac/amp is like particularly trash

presuming there is something actually wrong with the bass

[warm scarab]

id wager you dont like the headphone because its really bad to begin with

but it should have pronounced bass unlike what you are saying

so maybe you want deeper bass instead of more emphasized bass?

[willow ruin]

Lol idk if I'm just expecting to much tbh imma just try it out with the seal when I push them against my head next time I'm on my PC and will see

What's meant by emphasized? But yea I like deeper bass

[warm scarab]

emphasized means volume

deeper bass means lower frequency

[willow ruin]

Bass is existent don't get me wrong but like not anywhere near breathtaking or sum

[warm scarab]

in which dt770 shouldnt be particularly bad at either as far as volume goes

[willow ruin]

Oh well I want them to vibrate like very loud bass if you feel me

[warm scarab]

i mean if its a sealing issue (not highly likely) you cant really fix it

[warm scarab]

not possible with headphones

unless you get skullcandy memes which sound fucking awful

but do shake like that

[willow ruin]

What's sealing tho? I can't think of anything when hearing that, has something to do with the pads?

[warm scarab]

sealing the air in the headphones

you put them against your head

leaving little exit for air

if you have a weird head the pads may not completely touch/apply sufficient pressure to your head

[willow ruin]

Ah well I was in the store last weekend to watch some Bluetooth headsets tho found some for like 300€ which therefore had very good bass. I am comparing these dt 770 to them and don't know if they should perform same or worse idk

[warm scarab]

and it may not be as airtight as it needs to be

[warm scarab]

which ones

[willow ruin]

Ohh I see alright

Well many different ones, Bose noise cancelling quietcomfort, Bowers Wilkins px7, Bose noise cancelling 700, and others which I dont got the name now

[warm scarab]

i dont know many basshead cans

that are like not 500$

[willow ruin]

Hmmmm ig I just expected to much of them I believe?

[warm scarab]

i mean

[willow ruin]

Either way imma ask my friend to borrow his amp adapter and see if it changes anything

[warm scarab]

99% of the people in the audiosphere i know doesn't like them

only people that i see recommend them echochamber residents from pro forums using 20yo information

or people that watch random youtube videos

[willow ruin]

I was just told they are very great and reviews and stuff all were good so I just purchased it not overthinking to much

[warm scarab]

its a headphone that's purpose is to be cheap and durable

[willow ruin]

Yea lol

[warm scarab]

so studios can buy 50 of them

and use them for the next 500 years

[willow ruin]

Makes sense

[warm scarab]

for their time they aren't terrible but its just an old as fuck headphone that wasn't even particularly good back then apart from items of its own price range

[willow ruin]

Ohhh

[warm scarab]

its still comparable to gaming headphones and surprisingly beats a lot of them but still

not the greatest item to buy

[willow ruin]

Well, if that's the case there is not much I can do it looks like. I'll try that with pushing and let's see if that changes sum (I can't do anything about the seal right) and last escape would be like maybe play with an equalizer or some?

[warm scarab]

try plugging them into anything else

like your phone etc

maybe your motherboard chips are really bad

[willow ruin]

Well I came from a razer headset (don't got the model number but was like a decent one for around 100€) and I can't tell tbh which sounds better

[warm scarab]

if you use a headphone for a long time you will need to readjust your brain to anything else in general

[willow ruin]

Sadly my phone got no aux and idk where to plug them, it's a good motherboard tho

[warm scarab]

i dont propose dt770 is better than those headphones but a lot of people generally don't think anything positive when they buy audio related to be better after using their old stuff for a long time

generally takes 2-3 days to adjust unless you experiment with audio and headphones a lot

i still think dt770 is shit but whatever headphone you buy, you will probably think "this does something different that i dont like"

[willow ruin]

Okay well I just had them on like 2 times and maybe it's because of getting used to them yea but I was rarely using my gaming headset tho. So I was not very "used to it" I'd say

Ig you are right.. I'll try out a bit with them now and if I'm not happy with the results I'll just try to sell them again

Thank you so far man

[warm scarab]

np

[fierce spoke]

Any audiophiles around?
I am looking to buy a DAC/AMP combo,
I will be buying localy and I dont have many options sadly, would you guyz recommend the Topping DX3 Pro+, Fiio K7 or Fiio K11?
I will be using it to run DT 770 pro 80 ohm and a pair of IEM I'll get in the future (I do need a recommendation there as well)

also slightly stupid question can you connect both IEMs and headphones at the same time and swap between them from the amp?

[willow ruin]

@warm scarab so I just tried pressing them against my head, did not make a difference with the bass tho

[dapper quartz]

For you PC netflix/movie watchers. If you got good headphone setup should you be watching dolby atmos content in good quality stereo or use the "dolby atmos for headphones"?

I understand dolby for headphones is a gimmick dolby setup.

Would it be best to look for a toggle for 2.0 stereo option instead of 5.1 atmos

[real moat]

Maybe a dumb question.
I got one of these hdmi 5.1 audio system:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/364156858679?_skw=HDMI+5.1CH+Digital+Audio+System&itmmeta=01JA0E2492XR5R16P6WCXWSZXZ&hash=item54c970b137:g:Kt0AAOSwtuxjGYLM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKkdJTJyCnjYyd29t6obOLqMRrartlwpozEUywuW1yaFurUF6Q%2Birre%2FDWtHMRMbqdgdKdF%2BSQELKMbkK4V%2FIh8WnEpFmHjxKhF%2FW%2FYIaPDUxcy1H0i5CPGe3lkm%2F9bp2k5Df835EtFgEd%2FEA5Pc6xkMwf4IYi0hFSLZJk8GYnh0RsGZejySVTTihf5rcrALiMfJmmZcOoiKmm%2FZJWYcSTjGbfrCalxC0pmYK1d06CoA2o9Sr8KIlJThnUc%2B8WnhbOVimr%2BHM4qUm3qA1diAdosk|tkp%3ABk9SR87EiI7QZA

It connects to my PC via HDMI and to my "old" 5.1 sound system (speaker + subwoofer).
It was working fine for a couple months. The last 4 weeks I was away and just got back. Now it is making a sort of clicking sound sometimes when I play some sound.

Any ideas what the reason could be?

[cosmic wraith]

Ok?

[dapper quartz]

I noticed those podcasters use those, Joe Rogan atleast he used to

[sand falcon]

Any recommendations on headphones? I’m looking to spend no more than $110. I don’t need one of those attached mics since I have an alternate one but if there is one preferred it detachable. Obviously I want good sound quality for the price and wireless would be nice but again it doesn’t matter to me

[cosmic wraith]

Tall?

[dapper quartz]

A hifiman? - 60% Price drop? Never heard of Audivina. Its always talk of He1000, arya, susvana.

Anybody familiar with this hifiman variant and how does it rank to other hifiman headphones

[cosmic wraith]

or fiio jt1?

[steel escarp]

Never ever get a hifiman closed back

I wouldn't even use audivina for free, it's so bad it makes your ears bleed.

[dapper quartz]

Some digging and it seems hifiman notorious overprice their stuff especially that one

Im convinced Edition XS > HEKSE will be my path to "personal" endgame

[warm scarab]

no not really

hifiman closed backs are pretty awful in general

hifiman isn't that overpriced when you consider audeze starts at like 700$ with their "usable" heaphones

edition xs is like what 270-330$ b stock

[dapper quartz]

Best money ever spent in a long while

On XS

[warm scarab]

xs is great

[steel escarp]

I loved my xs

[dapper quartz]

Question regarding Dac/Amp stacks and fixed/variable switch
I use the iFi ZEN DAC/CAN Signature HFM V2 (DAC + AMP stack)
Ive been using the "FIXED" switch for some time now as years ago a briefly looked into this and many said "FIXED" was the best setup for PC/Headphone users.

I just hit the swtich back to "Variable" recently and noticed the sound is really different. I can i put the sound a lot higher (dac volume kept on max followed by manual amp volume knob) and if my audiophile language serves me well its like there alot more headroom.

Are pc/headphone users meant to keep it on the "variable" switch?

If i keep the volume on "fixed" when i increase the volume loud enough if feels like a hit a wall of sound which just hurts my head (strange form of muddy bass surrounding me)

[buoyant vale]

variable is just for people who don't have the zen can

[haughty girder]

garbage.

man I don't know why people like the HD280 pro

it's so dark and muddy

[cosmic wraith]

I want high, not low.

[haughty girder]

?

[cosmic wraith]

i want tall

[haughty girder]

headphones that are tall?

what

[warm scarab]

fixed is something you use if you are using the zendac as a dac only

variable is something you use if you plug your headphones in directly

the "difference" you hear between the two options is that one is louder and the other is quieter

one uses the volume knob for adjusting volume, one outputs at line level for outputting into another amplifier

[dapper quartz]

I think ive been using my PC/dac/amp/headphone setup for the last year wrong then

Fixed has been giving me a mild headache if i pump the volume, variable (dac knob at 3pm ((5pm is max)) while amp knob is volume control) gives me so much detail and allows me to pump louder without strange noise

[warm scarab]

noise?

your amp is noisy?

[elder thistle]

they aren't that dark for me

maybe 1-2 db from neutral

the smoothness and timbre is the best I've heard under $100

like...

stomps the k361 and 371 in those two things and of course a lot of other techs

not even close

comparable in brightness to k371

[haughty girder]

I can't say I agree

technicalities aren't even better on HD280 pro either

I genuinely think the HD280 Pro sucks ass

[dapper quartz]

Assuming its the amp. Fixed mode on lowest gain gives what seems to be thick layer of bassy/noise that becomes more noticeable at higher volumes.

My best guess is that the IfI Zen Can Signature V2 amp is overkill for the Edition XS (in fixed mode).

Bought the dac/can to try make sure i get the best out of Edition XS and wanted to use the balanced option only found on the Zen Can/Amp.
Seems variable mode is best for Edition XS in my opinion (atleast on that setup) Lets me put the volume as loud as i want with 0 background noise

Maybe i dont even need the Zen CAN amp for XS, but i get mixed reviews if it needed a amp or not

[steel escarp]

do not get an ifi amp for edition xs

reasonable listening volume is with the volume knob at 10 o'clock, it has a channel imbalance for anything up until 11 o'clock

there is no negative gain option

[dapper quartz]

Oh yes fixed mode on dac/amp near/after 11 o'clock it gets strangely muddy, feels like a weak pressure of active noise canceling is hitting me

Would you recommend variable mode with dac at 3 o'clock (5 is max) + amp upto 11.o'clock

[tepid flare]

Hi, I have a 5.1 speaker setup for my TV, ps5 and an apple TV 3rd gen. They were working perfectly fine literally 11 hours ago, as I fell asleep last night with music on through Spotify on my apple TV at a low ish volume and when I woke up to go to the loo, I turned the apple TV off.

It's through an old panasonic avr, the audio coming from the apple TV and ps5 is going through their own identical hdmi splitters into optical audio, it's been that way for ages and as I said before, they were working earlier.

I have unplugged everything power wise and also unplugged, blown out and reinserted the speaker cables on both ends, I've also tried changing the audio output on the ps5 from Dolby audio to DTS and linear pcm, all to no avail.

The audio recording is of the sound my speakers make, any actual proper sound is from marvels Spiderman remastered on the ps5.

Any advice on how to fix this issue would be greatly appreciated.

[warm scarab]

thats unique

cant give you any other advice than to test components individually to see if they work or not

hdmi splitter could be the culprit

[dapper quartz]

Anybody looking forward to the Hifiman HE1000 Unveiled? Bit pricy.

[steel escarp]

not me, looks like a worse version of the he1000 stealth

if only they could just make a he1000 series headphone that is not insanely bright

[brittle jungle]

Anyone have good daily headphone recs for 120 gbp

[halcyon dock]

I am looking for headsets at 150euros Max ,preferably with a built-in microphone, looking to game on them and listen to music , I've seen the DT 770 pro , I've owned Logitech g432 and Corsair void elite stereo

[stiff fiber]

looking for a amp or preamp for headphones, I've been looking and just keep finding myself lost, my budget is under 100 usd

[elder thistle]

what headphones?

[elder thistle]

which country, games, and genres of music?

and does it need to block out background noise

[halcyon dock]

greece,rock,metal,electronic and no

like ow and single player

[elder thistle]

epic

one moment

wait there's no amazon in greece?

[elder thistle]

do you know of any online stores I should look through

[halcyon dock]

skroutz.gr

basically ebay,amazon etc for greece

[halcyon dock]

https://www.skroutz.gr/

[elder thistle]

I've only tried the newer sort of variant (sennheiser hd560s, original and revision), but the sennheiser hd599 has a pretty low price here. the tone can be improved to be less boomy and more energetic with equalizerapo's software on windows https://www.skroutz.gr/s/24021387/Sennheiser-HD-599-Ensyrmata-Over-Ear-Hi-Fi-Akoustika-Mayra.html

in theory / based on what some of my friends have said, these are a little more "resolving" than the beyer dt990 250 ohm for example. with busier music, it's easy for overlapping sounds to turn the overall sound into mush and lose details. these headphones should do a decent job handling that and still staying pretty clear

they would also sound pretty spacious and give a precise sense of direction of sounds in most games

[halcyon dock]

Well I was kinda between these and and the DT770

[elder thistle]

if you're able to find a 2.5mm boom mic somewhere, you can turn it into a headset. here's one that's in the u.s, it's only okay though and the cable can wear out https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W1G95PH/

o

[halcyon dock]

I will get a dedicated mic that's no issue I just want something that will have better quality than my Corsair void elite stereo

I broke them , got for 30 bucks the g432 Logitech and I hate them

They sound okay but they hurt my head

[elder thistle]

a dt770 250 ohm in theory has tighter bass, a little less soundstage, the treble more "silky" because it just slightly glosses over / smooths fine details, and should be close to but not quite as good at the hd599 in not smearing together when sounds overlap

it's a style, but my best guess is that most people will prefer more resolution

if I was picking something here for myself for rock/metal/electronic, I'd go with the AT m50x

it's got somewhat boosted bass (looser sounding than I'd like), easy to get loud, and very high instrument separation and fine details

snares crack really well, distortions on guitars or effects on synths are vivid and have a lot going on

it's just not as spacious really

but there's a large divide in the actual sound that different people hear on the m50x

plenty of people here will tell you it sounds super smeared together and muddy

the biggest con for me is that the earpads are on the thin side

[gentle quiver]

can i even connect regular passive speakers to this amp with 12awg wire it looks alot different than the others ones ive seen where u can just clamp down the copper wire

[lean grove]

Yes. You can.

But if you want to be fancy you can buy banana plugs for bare cable.

[candid hare]

Are a pair of 2 Paradigm Atom Monitor S7 Bookshelf Speakers with stands worth a 100 dollars? I'm talking to to a guy on marketplace. I was looking for studio monitors but found these realized they were made a while back but apparently we're built better then the newer models are made in China

https://www.paradigm.com/en/passive/atom-monitor

Only finding v7 model

[lean grove]

Decent bookshelves with good stands can definitely be worth $100. You might be able to find better deals on the used market, but as far as $100 MSRP speakers go there are really only a handful of options and they all have problems.

If you're able to, get an in-person audition. If you don't hear any problems, I say pull the trigger. and problems being any flapping noises, harshness, distortion. Your ears should be able to tell you if anything's bad.

[stiff fiber]

k240

[granite summit]

@lean grove

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[candid hare]

@lean grove thanks ill lookout. i missed 600 dollar powered studio monitors for realy cheap on facebook its just a waiting game lol

[molten lotus]

Are edifier w820nb plus good?

[warm scarab]

nice try fed

[lyric chasm]

I’ve got a pair of dt990 250ohm and a behringr u2 they are very quiet looking for something to power them so they are louder

[sacred jolt]

does anyone on here know what i should be using to clean an volume potentiometer as the one connected to my creative inspire 6700 from 2003 isn't working properly?

[torpid hatch]

Spraying contact cleaner and twisting the pot over and over should clean it (though it's more like wiping the dirt/oxidation around) and it should work after that.... provided there's still resistive material on the strip. It's quite old, so, it might be time for a potentiometer swap.

[sacred jolt]

Thanks I'll give it a go 👍

[torpid hatch]

Let us know how it goes 💪 If you do swap the part, make sure it's the same type (resistance and lin or log, it'll say somewhere on the pot')

[sacred jolt]

I have a good amount of experience in soldering, so i should be fine thanks for the heads-up.

[split portal]

good for 5 more years

[lyric chasm]

’ve got a pair of dt990 250ohm and a behringr u2 they are very quiet looking for something to power them so they are louder

[lean grove]

How much do you want to spend? And do you need a mic interface?

[lyric chasm]

i don't need a mic interface and whatever is cheap would be best imo

[lean grove]

If the behringer um2 is too quiet for you then you're gonna need an amplifier. See if you can find a used schiit magni or ifi Zen DAC of some sort. Jds atom, topping, or Smsl also worth looking at. Or a fiio k11.

Unfortunately all the stuff worth getting is at around $100

The moon drop dawn pro should also be an improvement in power, on the same level as the Zen DAC, but is much cheaper.

But the schiit magni is gonna have way more power than you'd ever need for the dt990

[lyric chasm]

So I’m Guessing just scrap the um2 and replace it with one of the above ?

[lean grove]

With the magni you can plug it into the back of the um2

But anything that connects to your PC via USB the um2 is gonna be useless

[lyric chasm]

Bruh that mangi is so expensive in UK

K11 seems decent price wise is that all I would need to run the 990s?

[lean grove]

Yes

[lyric chasm]

Also fount something called an evo 4

[lyric chasm]

I went with that EVO 4

[elder thistle]

douk audio u3

it's ideal for the dt990 250r

and no, you won't be able to tell the difference between it and a $150ish (transistor) amp

but you will need to find a 5v 2.1a power brick lying around

[sage frigate]

I use this preset for my headphones and I'm hearing more of a singer's voice and the voice too sounds very bright. Does anyone know what frequency I should mess around with to have vocals and voice to sound equally

[kindred remnant]

hi guys can someone recommend me some microphones around 100 to 200 dolars

[shell solstice]

anyone got recommendation on headphones budget ?

[kindred remnant]

you can go for steelseries or hyperx

[cedar acorn]

i have a problem with headphone sound in my poco f6 it just sounds weird no matter if i use my headphones with usb C to headphone jack adapter or my bluetooth headphones its like louder in the left ear and it just sounds shit

[lean grove]

What do you need the mic for? And do you want USB or XLR or any other features?

[lean grove]

You might have accidentally fucked with the audio settings in Android or whatever

[limber pulsar]

Does anyone here have a sound system and try to use their PC on their TV and run into audio sync issues or I guess maybe just know good troubleshooting tips for audio sync issues in general?

[abstract imp]

From what I'm piecing together https://apos.audio/products/topping-la90-power-amp?srsltid=AfmBOoo1veTyF7956dwwZSasSvsWkWcTCMQPROUCJlnqL_2xZOQRKsSL is for a stack and for use with speakers i assume u use a amp dac and 2 of the la90ds for speakers?

(I'm very much still learning and am a noob in terms of audio tech

So if someone could explain what power amplifiers such as these serve in a stack with for example a D90 III Discrete and a A90 Discrete that'd be super appreiciated

[lean grove]

Traditionally power amplifiers are speaker amplifiers but without a volume knob. They amplify the power being put into them by the gain of the amp.

You would use a pre-amp in front of the power amp to control the volume.

That is because (also traditionally) a DAC will spit out a constant voltage of about 2-4 volts. Without the pre-amp, the power amp will be at max volume all the time and probably break your ears and your speakers.

The d90 doesn't have a volume knob, but the la90 does. So if you don't care about headphones, you can skip the a90 and plug the la90 into the d90 and control the volume from the big knob on the front

Without the la90, the d90 and the a90 could not power passive speakers. Well the a90 probably could, but it wouldn't be happy about it.

If you're using active speakers like powered studio monitors, the la90 is unnecessary and you can just plug the xlrs into the back of the a90

[abstract imp]

Answered all my questions perfectly thanks one more doe so elgatos wave xlr can't handle the 300 ohm headset I use so for monitoring plan was headphones to a90d a90ds rca to 3.5 to wave xlr to monitor voice

Would that work

[lean grove]

Who says the elgato wave XLR can't handle 300 ohms? 🤨

[abstract imp]

It's own spec page

And the elgato st a ff and workers

[lean grove]

Ah. Well it's incorrect or at least incomplete data.

If you plug a high impedance headphone into something, the only real risk is it might not be as loud as you want.

[abstract imp]

(Mind u it works just not amazinf)

It becomes super wuiet

Quiet

[lean grove]

Yeah. Julien krause's measurements shows it can do 5 mW into 300 ohms which isn't a lot.

[lean grove]

But to answer this question no it would not work the way you think
You can get it to work but you'd be wasting a ton of money.

[abstract imp]

So best just to not use monitoring n just plug into amp

For sound

[lean grove]

The elgato wave has the """"high power""" headphone amp"

What you can do is get a 3.5mm to RCA cable, turn the elgato wave to max volume, and buy a headphone amplifier that takes RCA

Skip the DAC

If you wanna stick with the clean sounding amp, a topping l30 will be more than plenty for what you need

[abstract imp]

Otherwise I could just use a90d for active speakers n the 300 ohm headset sound right

[lean grove]

An a90d would also work exactly as good as a l30

If you wanna spend the extra cash go for it.

[abstract imp]

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_158SAZ1/Sony-Signature-Series-SA-Z1.html?tp=72535 a90d for these and the hd800s

(I got a pair off bud for cheap)

[lean grove]

👍

[abstract imp]

Tho in that case I need dac and amp don't i

For pc sound to headphones n speakers

[lean grove]

your elgato wave will act as the dac. not a very good one, but if you want to monitor your voice it will be the only way to do this.
you can technically buy a mixer to mix a proper dac with the output of your elgato wave with the proper dac, but that will overcomplicate things and make the fancy dac kinda meaningless anyways.

the a90d will be the headphone amp for your hd800s and the pre-amp to control the volume of your speakers

though you should probably make sure that the a90d can output a balanced signal using a single ended input

[abstract imp]

In pre amp power amplifier for speakers is that referencing passive ones then

I think the a90d and d90d dac amp combo will work

For speakers n headphones

(I've chosen to not hear myself it's not needed)

So a90d for headphones n speakers d90d for going to pc for ability to listen to pc

Hopefully I'm not being dumb

[lean grove]

eh. if i were going for a clean-meme headphone setup i would go for the a70 and d70. has more bells and whistles and uses a digital volume knob.

singxer sa-1 is also worth considering for the headphone amp/preamp. more people prefer its sound.

i have an smsl vmv a1 and d1 stack but the a1 is mostly for using passive speakers.

[abstract imp]

I thought a90 was higher end one

Of a70

[lean grove]

arguably yes

it is 'descrete' meaning its made of real electrical components and not just a bunch of microchips in a trenchcoat

the a70 has more power (which you dont need) and has a lot of extra features (which you might not need)

i think you'll be happy with the a90/d90 stack

just more stuff to look at

[dreamy pine]

Grounding a powered subwoofer with 3 metres of 12 gauge wire shouldn’t cause issues should it?

[lean grove]

if you ground it properly, no.

well. it might cause ground loop problems

but thats an easy fix by simply undoing the grounding

[dreamy pine]

How is a ground loop identifiable?

[lean grove]

a loud and annoying buzz

[dreamy pine]

Fair enough. I finally did something that worked first try lol

[kindred remnant]

its for personal usage actualy usb is enough for me but if it has xlr feature that would be pretty good

[solar hedge]

Hey guys I got DT990 pro 250ohm and I need a dac/amp for my pc and got no clue what is good and I want it mostly for gaming and music budget is 150[euro/dollar/pounds]

[steel escarp]

fiio k11

also my condolences for your hearing

after getting dt990

[solar hedge]

They sound bad or good xd

[steel escarp]

bad

[solar hedge]

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/305680393729?chn=ps&var=604694320371&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=5282-166454-587998-0&mkcid=2&itemid=604694320371_305680393729&targetid=2308550382942&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007850&poi=&campaignid=20320759638&mkgroupid=152362499922&rlsatarget=pla-2308550382942&abcId=&merchantid=697535409&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw68K4BhAuEiwAylp3kjfUYDgX-LEQYfq6zAuCyTQMx6uLHWNKW0Kc-0zdUkBu5ylnnP09CRoCo7IQAvD_BwE

Does this seem legit?

[steel escarp]

idk, I dont use ebay

but that is indeed the dac/amp I recommend

[solar hedge]

Whats the difference from K5 pro and K11?

[steel escarp]

k11 is less bulky

cheaper

k5 pro has more power, but dont think you'll need it

the dac section in the k11 is way nicer

actually on second thought dont get the k11, it doesn't power high impedance headphones (250 ohms) well @solar hedge

[solar hedge]

I was just about to buy it 😂

So which ones do you reccomend?

[steel escarp]

neither

[steel escarp]

only 60mw into 300 ohms

[elder thistle]

why not just get a douk audio u3 and a dongle

it's like $50 and transparent with these kinds of headphones

[steel escarp]

your headphone requires 25mW of power

so it could do it

but idk, seems like its pushing it

not enough headroom

[elder thistle]

the u3 can destroy the dt990 250r

[steel escarp]

it has even less power

[elder thistle]

I have bottomed out the 600r dt880 with plenty of volune left

like the voice coil clacking against the basket

with 80's rock

[steel escarp]

getting a k11 and using single ended is uh...

[elder thistle]

this thing wants to prove that wired earbuds can inject fire into your ears too

[lean grove]

Still plenty for normal use.

[solar hedge]

Dame got me all confused now

[lean grove]

K11 is a good choice

Rare carmonben sighting

[solar hedge]

Thank you bro

[steel escarp]

I'd like to mess around with a k11

but I'd just be buying more low-fi

[soft rune]

Any audiophiles know which one is better:
Please let me know, if the difference is minimal let me know your preference... or any other alternatives outside of these two. Im looking for under $35 cad

[brisk topaz]

if you can stretch your budget the truthear crinacle zero reds are better

[ocean pulsar]

get the r2r, then at least its lofi with a reason

[brisk topaz]

but if not then the zero 2s here are better then the moon drops

imo

[soft rune]

do you personally have an amp or do u just connect em straight to ur pc

[brisk topaz]

i have an amp but connecting directly to your pc is just as good

[soft rune]

oh ok

[brisk topaz]

don’t let people tell you you need a £300 amp for it to sound good

[soft rune]

yeah, true

[soft rune]

could you tell me why

thx for the help 2012

[brisk topaz]

just general higher quality drivers and components

[soft rune]

ppreciate it breh

[brisk topaz]

i’ve tried both and they both sound pretty good for the money

i prefer the zero 2s but the moon drops aren’t too bad of an option either

[soft rune]

bet

what makes them good?

[brisk topaz]

just higher quality and better tuning imo

[soft rune]

Also thinking about getting new speakers, do you have any recommendations nothing too expensive

[brisk topaz]

the kz zsn pro x is also a great option if you need a mic

[brisk topaz]

the mic is unironically not that bad for £20

[soft rune]

nah dont need mic

[brisk topaz]

i don’t know too much about speakers i’ll let someone else help here

[soft rune]

oh okay thanks

ill go for the crinacles

How can i expect relaibility durability on these @brisk topaz

[brisk topaz]

good choice

[soft rune]

first time IEM

[brisk topaz]

great

[soft rune]

Im done with headphones lol

[brisk topaz]

after the first week your ears get used to the shape and feel

just trust the process

[soft rune]

Sounds good

[haughty girder]

no it doesnt

[lavish sentinel]

i can second this. ive tried so many different styles of earbuds and IEMs and the only ones that actally fit and stay for me are the airpods 2nd gen or airbuds (wired ones)

[elder thistle]

I would say the build and cable is excellent on the chu II's, and the comfort and fit probably more universal. I like the way transients sound on them, they have higher instrument separation and resolution than most of my budget iems. the zero 2 however has tighter upper bass, even more instrument separation and resolution (especially in the mids), more dynamics in the mids, and a more complete soundstage even if it's only like 8 inches for me. their imaging worked better than the chu 2 for me in cs2, even if the precision wasn't that good

hm

[soft rune]

thanks for letting me know

[elder thistle]

and the treble is probably smoother / more normal sounding on the chu 2

[soft rune]

damn do you collect iems? im guessingf you have both of these

[elder thistle]

just a handfull but yes

[soft rune]

Do you potentially know anyhting about speakers

[elder thistle]

I have a few $100ish speakers and then some adam t5v's, had focal alpha 50's in the past

uh and old ilouds and kanto yu2 and more $100ish speakers in the past

there's some cheap passive tower speakers to the sides of my desk I don't use that much

and creative pebbles v1 in a box somewhere

not sure if those count, they're like 0.5 speakers

spiritually a speaker must be made of at least a woofer, tweeter, and a box

[soft rune]

Right, do you have any recommendations that I can find on amazon? My main use for them is just for music and movies lol. Should I just get creative pebbles v3 or something more expensive but worthwhile

@elder thistle

Just looking to replace my very old hand me down speakers lol

[elder thistle]

whay

why are the pebbles $50

[soft rune]

Is that normal?

[elder thistle]

what kind of music would you be listening to mostly?

[soft rune]

Ooh love that question

Rap hiphop, r&b

pop

[elder thistle]

o

[lean grove]

V3

V2 is usually around $20-$30

[elder thistle]

that's a ripoff

[soft rune]

Like they shouldnt be that price?

[elder thistle]

$20 would be fair

at least when scaled against the cheapest conventional speakers

it's like paying $200 for a new bike or $600 for a new car

no

[soft rune]

aightt

what about the edifiers

[elder thistle]

$5000 for a new bike and $10,000 for a new car

[soft rune]

10k for a new car is a steal

[elder thistle]

uh so the issue here is probably bass

none of these speakers are going to have sub bass

not for rap and hiphop anyways

much of it will be missing in movies too

it's possible to do something like buying a cheap subwoofer and hooking it up to cheap 3.5" speakers

[soft rune]

ohh

[elder thistle]

but those two things together is usually $200 at least

[soft rune]

not even the edifiers hey?

[elder thistle]

the edifiers "roll off" / lose volume with frequencies below 65hz

rap and hip hop commonly has bass notes like 30hz

they will vanish

well, at least the actual bass part

the texture and such will still be there, if it has some in that music

uh I might have an example

[soft rune]

oh that sucks

that amkes me realize just how much iems have in their cheap price

thats crazy

[soft rune]

u still there @elder thistle

[elder thistle]

yes behold

[soft rune]

ohh whats this @elder thistle

[elder thistle]

it's the kind of bass you can expect from something like the edifiers

[soft rune]

ah did u amplify the sample

what would you recommend

[lean grove]

Maybe not. I think the v3's have PR's on the back and have a better bass response

[elder thistle]

the v1 has the radiator too

the side by side demos on youtube suggest they're still basically the same thing but with a better amp

[elder thistle]

maybe something like this. the behringers have much more soundstage, sound fuller, and a more dynamic and detailed midrange compared to the mr4's. they don't get quite as loud though and the treble is less smooth (but also less harsh)

I think it would complement the vocals in rap and the effects in movies

and the sub of course is a sub, I've used their psw-6 and am happy with it. I did get curious eventually and threw in a bose woofer to see what would happen

those rca adapter things are the cheapest solution to wire the speakers and sub together, given the included cables

crossover-wise I would set the subwoofer to 90hz and on the behringers the bass knob down 2db or 3db

[soft rune]

Damn ngl idk what much of this shiet means

But i appreciate it

Ill check itmoit

Out

Thoughts on audio technica at-sp3x? @elder thistle

[elder thistle]

never tried them

looks like another pair of 4.5" active speakers though

[soft rune]

its just the behringer truth is not avaliable on amazon.ca

[elder thistle]

oh canada

[soft rune]

yupp

[elder thistle]

the mr4 is still probably fine then

[soft rune]

Okkay yeah tahts what im thinking of getting

should i get a seperate subwoofer?

[elder thistle]

if you want to hear the deep bass notes or effects in movies, yeah

but it's also something you could add on at any time

maybe you'll be happy with the mr4's as-is

[soft rune]

True

Thanks for ur help jackson

Ill settle for the mr4 and the crinacles

[molten lotus]

What wireless headphones should i get

I might get the airpods 4

sre they worth it

3 months apple music

Current got the gen ones they die rlly fast and disconnecting issues

My budget is like 200 cad max

[brisk topaz]

person to person

in my experience the sore ears and discomfort goes away pretty fast

the point was to just try them for a long time eventually you will get used to them

anyway these kz zsn pro x are pretty good

the mic is suprisingly good

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Monitors-Earbuds-Headphones-Earphones-Detachable/dp/B08DNHTF69/ref=asc_df_B08DNHNS7L/?

compared to the zs10s these are still great

the zs10 is on par with the truthear crinacle zero blues but a bit better music quality although with eqing you could make the zeros pretty good

for gaming you can hear footsteps pretty well the bass and treble is quite good

8/10 especially when considering price

i didn’t get the ones with a mic but i heard it’s the exact same as the zsns

so pretty good

i wanna try these next

[sage frigate]

can anyone recommend me good IEM's for 20-30$? (amazon india)

[haughty girder]

Your earholes do not stretch from using earbuds. That's a proven fact. Your eartips are as important as the iem itself. The issue is the nozzle and shell size of the Reds are FAR larger than most iems. The nozzle + a tip may not even fit in someone's ear, same as the shell. It straight up may not fit.

[haughty girder]

Truthear Gate

Salnotes Zero or Zero 2

[haughty girder]

Truthear Blue/Red are fine for longevity but like any other resin shell iem they're brittle

don't drop them or crush them and they'll last

but otherwise it IS a thinner shell than most other resin shell iems, and thus is a bit more fragile