audio-tech

[scarlet wing]

I have a cheap pair of jbl 650 and the noise cancellation isn’t great on it

[livid ruin]

yeah, that’s why not jbl’s they’re good under $100. that’s about it

like 710bt,720bt,760nc and the rest is okay but not as good value

[scarlet wing]

I was thinking soundcore too

The space Q45 or the space pro, but not many reviews on it

[livid ruin]

just wait til someone knowledgable recommend you headphones that don’t have trash tier sound for the price and decent anc

[livid ruin]

anker headphones out of all hell no

they’re 🔥 🚮 for sound

[scarlet wing]

They’re supposed to be good for the price, but I’m probably going to go Sony or Bose high end for open box or refurbished

[livid ruin]

they’re all poor for the price, one worse than another

[scarlet wing]

For open box they’re like $150-$200 so not bad

[livid ruin]

no, really even at that price if they were new i’d call them mediocre at best, unless they have near perfect anc

@scarlet wing beware of affiliate reviews on youtube for anker headphones, they will tell you how good the sound is meanwhile not showing you a single fr or any sort of graphs that confirm their claims by any extent

[scarlet wing]

They’re the best for wireless anc that’s widely sold. I used my fiancés Bose 700 and they were awesome for transatlantic flying

[scarlet wing]

I use rtings and a few other sites. Not just winging it

I’m 30 and tech savvy afterall

[livid ruin]

rtings doesn’t have the most accurate testing for headphones but they seem to be fixing/fixed alot of the measurements

most of them aren’t accurate anyways but rtings was oustandingly bad

at some point

but were talking +-5db so, that’s not that bad but still, their testing rig or something was meh

they still have the hd681 last time i checked placed too high.

and the rating system is still off

rtings ideally for just monitor, tv panels

[livid ruin]

a $20 headphone from koss is likely to sound better than those

[half fog]

true

if you want noise isolation portable cheap get some decent iems otherwise enjoy toilet-fi tier on ears with bloated bass and crunchy distorted highs

and poor ANC

or 'overear' that are small enough that the earcups touch your outer ear and hurt after an hour

and the pads will flake too on most of those brands unless you get aftermarket pads

[elder thistle]

rtings is winging it. they don't measure or talk about sound quality

nor do they care to quantify it in a way that other people can look at and determine if something meets their personal preferences / definition of sound quality

[frozen yoke]

Hey all, looking for a budget friendly over ear ANC headphones. I got a budget of $200 AUD and I'm just a casual listener and travel outside alot and not audiophile. Thanks

[spark egret]

why is hyperx cloud 2 stinger so shit 😭
yeah they are pretty cheap, but the headphones i had before them were way cheaper and quality was alot better idk whats that about

[nova wagon]

classic gamer brand moment

[spark egret]

yeah fr

but what am i supposted to buy for that low budget

[steel escarp]

Final UX3000

[vapid plover]

Looking for a 5.1 channel home theater $500 or under. Or would it be better to buy used and piece it together

[frozen yoke]

What would you say what's good about it that it separates itself from other budget headphones like Soundcore and Edifier?

Not denying that it's good, just want to see some further explanation and reasoning. If that's OK with you

[steel escarp]

It's tuning is very neutral and will appeal to a lot of people

[frozen yoke]

I see that it doesn't come with EQ app or EQ, is the sound alright without it?

[warm scarab]

would be better to not get surround

because you are dividing your budget for 6 speakers total

you essentially have a 83$ budget per speaker

[vapid plover]

Let me rephrase if I buy a whole system in box I sit. Want to pay more then $500 but if I’m buying individually and piecing the styrene I don’t Mind paying more. I’m net to home audio so not sure brands or such

[warm scarab]

I don't follow what you are trying to say, the general surround systems are 5.1 and 7.1 leaving you with a minimum speaker count of 6, in which case 500/8?

I'm bit smashed so you might have to explain like im a dumbass which I assure you im not normally

totally unlike me normally smh

[vapid plover]

Is it better to buy a home theater in a box for around $500 or less or to piece together the system i.e. all the speakers and the receiver, etc. from used parts

And if so, to piece it together, what brands i.e. specific models should I be looking for?

[warm scarab]

used you might be able to but its a tight budget for a surround system still

Any reason why you want surround over stereo

[vapid plover]

The budget is only for in box sets if I’m piecing it together. I don’t have a budget. I don’t know the difference between surround and stereo

[warm scarab]

Stereo is 2-3 speakers

Surround is like 6

Except for movies and videogames, music doesn't benefit from surround

Unless they are specifically made for surround

[vapid plover]

OK, I think I’m gonna go ahead and just stop talking to you now because multiple times I said home theater set up so I don’t know what part of that you thought I wasn’t listening to movies I don’t know but I’m gonna go ahead and just end this and I will come back and ask questions. Watch later in the day. Have a great day. Thanks for the help.

[warm scarab]

"I don't know what difference between stereo and surround is"

For starters perhaps understand what you want to purchase and then ask questions

[vapid plover]

I’m like 90% sure I accurately asked for something and then you asked stereo or surround and that confused me so if anything you’re the one that needs to understand multiple times I asked for a surround system for a home theater. I don’t care for stereo cause obviously if I want to surroundsound I want multiple speakers. I did not realize there was that much of a difference between them and speakers and if that’s the only difference between the two that’s rather a dumb thing to bring up in the first place, especially since I didn’t ask for stereoat all

[warm scarab]

I'm trying to reverse engineer your use case to be able to stop you from purchasing something you have no use for

90% of people who want surround don't have any use for it

[vapid plover]

I have use for a 5.1 surroundsound system, which is why I asked for a .5.1 surround system or brands and such to pieces together. I am building a home theater set up. I know that I want to surround system which is why I asked for surround system. I’m sorry that you felt the need to, undermine my question by asking a question unrelated to the case but yeah, I’m done now. Have a great day.

[warm scarab]

:^)

[quiet ether]

what beast is making ur house rattle?

[queen oar]

Where can I get a replacement wire for the truthear cinacle reds

[formal tundra]

Best wireless gaming headset under $50? Used is fine

[haughty girder]

not really?

they don't talk about sound quality the way you seem to talk about it

but they DO focus on frequency response which is all most people will care about

if they care about audio at all

[warm scarab]

In a stupid way

Judging headphones by the combination of the in house speaker target bass and the diffuse field for highs

with arbitrary parameters in how all these measurements interlink

its a stupid website that has the most amount of objective information available and the worst possible interpretation of all of it

[lilac spire]

Any audio dedicated server?

[stone quartz]

Can I use ethernet cables as speaker cables in a pinch?

If I twist the pairs together to increase the current handling capabilities

[white rampart]

https://a.co/d/0rgKWdi is this a good speaker system?

[lean grove]

logitech doesnt make any good speakers

they make overpriced mediocre speakers that have some flashy bells and whistles

[white rampart]

What's a good 5.1 setup for a beginner then?

[lean grove]

uhhh.

you wont get anything good for $500 for surround sound speakers.
in order to fit 5 speakers, a subwoofer, and a reciver into that budget you're gonna be getting some very cheap components in every part

but check out options from monoprice

they're probably gonna be your best bang for buck

https://www.monoprice.com/category/audio-video/speakers/home-theater-speakers-systems

keep in mind that these dont come with any receiver

[white rampart]

I see. Do you think that Logitech kit is good enough for a beginner or nah?

[lean grove]

i think logitech scams unwitting consumers by selling them shitty speakers packaged in a fancy case

so no

i do not think so

[white rampart]

I mean, I think that kit came out 10 years ago. Were they bad back then too?

[lean grove]

i think $100 would be acceptable for it.

maybe $150.

all of the money is being thrown at the subwoofer since thats gonna be the most expensive to make and the rest of saved by making the sattelite speakers stupid cheap

which is bad since 90% of the music is gonna be coming out of 2 of the 5 sattelite speakers

so really what you're doing is you're buying a $40 speaker system for $400

so yes. it was bad then, its bad now.

thats whats making 90% of the music

the cheapest little speaker possible.

[quiet ice]

An old Jvc stereo lmao

[quiet ether]

impressive

[white rampart]

I see. I usually use Amazon to buy stuff, so do they got anything for 500 usd or less that would be good enough?

[lean grove]

logitech does not make any good speakers :)

and monoprice is on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Channel-Satellite-Speakers-Subwoofer/dp/B007YLQUWK

[quiet ice]

Yeah I love it lmao

[quiet ether]

this is good

[quiet ice]

It’s fun

[quiet ether]

very surprised it can bump pretty well, must be pretty big

[lean grove]

https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR393-5-2-Channel-Receiver/dp/B07T3PRK4L

these two are gonna be less than the stupid logitech speakers while being just as good

[quiet ice]

2 8 inch subs

Bandpass

[quiet ether]

ah fair, makes sense

[lean grove]

and the bonus is that when you're ready to upgrade you can get some actually good speakers and not have to rebuy your entire system

[quiet ether]

i use a single 12 alpine

[quiet ice]

But it’s cool it’s so powerful and can fit on a shelf lmao

[quiet ether]

mine is a nice footrest

[quiet ice]

Jvc Mx-gt90

[lean grove]

are you watching a stream of a guy shitting

[quiet ether]

thats linus crouching down lmfaoo

[lean grove]

linus poop cam

[quiet ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1101571959097135236/1284556775168934008/IMG_3685.mov?ex=66e71039&is=66e5beb9&hm=16940a98d6bd89a01c7a6b129adb678a316bc097868d061318064c5e341ca152&

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cex-goth-dancing-clare-balding-gif-26086177

[quiet ether]

one of them is doing a fortnite dance

[lean grove]

i think they are from before fortnite

https://youtu.be/gPbVRpRgHso

yeah at least 4 years older

[quiet ether]

o lol

[white rampart]

I'm trying to find stuff that's thx certified.

[quiet ether]

thx died like a million years ago

dinosaur age

[white rampart]

Damn

https://a.co/d/geD8B1u good speaker wire?

[quiet ether]

you genuinely dont need that guage tbh, even some thin dual core speaker wire would do perfectly

[white rampart]

Remind me, higher number means thinner right?

[quiet ether]

mhmm

[white rampart]

Okay cool, same logic as shotguns

[quiet ether]

its the way the wires are spliced

goes through guages, so 16 guage would go thru 16 different bits to make the strands

[white rampart]

Interesting. I assume the hardest part about setting up a surround sound system is the speaker wires, right?

Or should I invest in some banana plugs?

[lean grove]

Banana plugs are good if you're gonna be plugging and unplugging speakers a lot. Turns a 20 second job into a 1 second job.

Otherwise if you're just gonna set it and forget it you're not losing anything by doing bare speaker wire

[white rampart]

Well, if it makes it easier to reposition things when necessary, I guess it's worth it

[stone quartz]

You can get some good used deals still for surround sound stuff

I was able to get a pretty decent Denon AVR for a tenth of the MSRP second hand

[quiet ether]

nah but its worth to get banana plugs

[white rampart]

Will they work with this port?

[quiet ether]

uhhh sec

[white rampart]

Also will this receiver be able to take a signal from my PC from a toslink, and turn it into 5.1 surround?

[quiet ether]

i dont think so, you use them for the speaker side

[lean grove]

If you want to help our friend by spending the hours over the next few eeks looking through craiglist and Facebook marketplace for potential options be my guest

[lean grove]

If your route your HDMI through it, yes. Or you can output through optical or any of the other inputs.

[white rampart]

What kind of cord would I use to connect from my PC to the receiver in order to get a full 5.1 setup?

[lean grove]

Look up "how to hook up 5.1 receiver to PC"

[quiet ether]

what nils said, and windows should configure it

[white rampart]

Oh wait I looked and it has HDMI in. But my GPU only has 1 HDMI port. Will the HDMI port on the motherboard itself work? Because I need the one on my GPU for my secondary monitor. And would an igpu be necessary to make it work, even just for audio?

[quiet ether]

do u not have a spdif port on ur mobo?

you'll need an igpu also yes

[white rampart]

Okay my new PC will have that.

Pretty much all new AMD CPU have igpu so I should be good

So I would just need to connect the HDMI from the PC to the receiver and set the audio output to the receiver, right?

[quiet ether]

in simple terms yes

[white rampart]

Okay

Wait a minute the receiver has HDMI out. I can just connect that to my monitor and not have to worry about needing 2 HDMI ports

Right?

[quiet ether]

uhhh dont think that'd work

[white rampart]

Aww why not?

Also sorry for asking so many questions I'm trying to understand what I'm getting into before I buy stuff

[quiet ether]

its ok

but the monitor cant take that input and relay it again

has to be direct

[stone quartz]

Yeah, it's definitely a right place at the right time kind of thing

[lean grove]

you put the reciever in between your monitor and computer

so it has HDMI output that go to your monitor

[white rampart]

Hold on I'm getting mixed messages here

Because iono says that I cannot connect the monitor to the HDMI out, but you're saying I can

[lean grove]

i dont see how else you could possibly use this reciever if you cant hook up an hdmi cable to it and output to a TV or monitor

so idk what iono is talking about

one thing that im worried about now is it might be limited to 60fps

[white rampart]

Well that's actually not an issue because my secondary monitor doesn't need high fps

[lean grove]

gotcha.

im not seeing anything that says its stuck there but it just said on the amazon page "4k/60p"

which is almost a typo

[quiet ether]

oop, mb thought you couldnt, thought u had to directly link to pc

never rlly worked with recievers

[lean grove]

The receiver extracts the audio signal and passes through the video to wherever.

[quiet ether]

fair

[stone quartz]

They might be doing some DSP correction when they are turned on

Maybe your amplification isn't especially powerful as well

[lean grove]

Because they probably have EQ built into them to fix their major problems. And when you power them off the EQ turns off

Impedance will impact how a headphone interacts with an amplifier.

The lower the impedance the more power it can extract from an amplifier.

But also the lower the impedance the more an amp can impact the sound of a headphone.

[stone quartz]

460 ohms is pretty high

Highest I've seen in a headphone is 600

Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohm

[lean grove]

It doesn't matter, really. 99% of the time you don't get to choose the impedance of the headphones.

And if you have a decent amplifier, able to do 1 Watt into 32 ohms, it should be able to use almost any headphone you want to pair with it.

The impedance will not tell you if a headphone will sound good or bad. And it won't even tell you if it's easy or hard to power.

It only tells you how it will interact with an amplifier.r

And with modern hardware thats an issue.

From an electrical perspective what happens if you take off a 32 ohm resistor and put a 400 ohm resistor on it

It will reduce the current

But power is current and voltage

But

Anyways

It will be fine

And I mean this. Pretty much across the board

DO NOT WORRY ABOUT IMPEDANCE

Like at all.

It will not tell you anything that you need to know from a beginner standpoint

Snr is how noisy it is

No

It's how much noise like hissing or buzzing or distortion

The volume part is voltage Vrms

1 volt is decent. 2 volts is ideal for basic stuff.

[unique wind]

higher snr is better

signal to noise ratio

alc1220 is better than alc1200

[lean grove]

Higher voltage means it can do more power to the headphones.

2 volts is more than enough for 90% of headphones

Just assume that most motherboard audio is the bottom of the barrel

Yes. The market they're selling to don't know how to differentiate good audio from bad audio and just know that higher number = BETTER.

[main halo]

should i get an HyperX QuadCast or is there a better mic to get

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/D5kGXI8vUKg

Right now, USB DACs or dongles are really the best form factor for PC audio

They can be very affordable at like $10-$30 for a little type C dongle thats better than onboard

Or you can get some totl USB DACs for like $10k

But pcie isn't a needed form factor for anyone except people who are doing pro audio and need the bandwidth for their 100 channels at 32bit 192khz or whatever

[left verge]

That's a red flag
For context, i was looking at a HE400SE listing

[lean grove]

the hifiman experience

[left verge]

I thought those were like the best for budget

Compared to certain ones

[lean grove]

assuming you get a working unit yeah

personally i think koss and iems are better bang for buck than hifiman but some people really want that over-ear experience 🦍

[left verge]

1. Earbuds for me 👎
2. i forgot who it was, but i had a list of headphones and someone said get the 400SEs
   Still thinking about it

[lean grove]

take a look at the ksc75 and porta pro's from koss

[weak kraken]

the ear cushions of my sundaras fell apart after less than a year

[lean grove]

they're built pretty rinky dinky but they sound good

[lean grove]

crazy how hifiman makes a glue specifically calibrated to turn to goo after a year

[weak kraken]

i'm considering the austrian Hi-X65's for when i need accurate sound reproduction; i have v-moda crossfade M-100's for listening

[lean grove]

austrian audio doesnt have any headphones that have an accurate sound afaik

they have a very odd sound signature

i did like the composer though

[weak kraken]

iirc the Hi-65's are more or less a better-built version of the K712's

[lean grove]

they have some company lineage but they are very very different

[weak kraken]

lmao guess that's what i get for listening to dankpods

i'll do some more reading; i might just get them as listening headphones

they do seem nice regardless

[lean grove]

you deserve much worse for that but you'll recieve it slowly over the course of your lifetime as background radiation

(joke)

[left verge]

Umm
No offense, but wtf are those

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/proud-mike-but-im-a-cheerleader-im-here-pose-gif-19385926

the best headphones under $100

they dont have much bass and they dont isolate but they are very very good otherwise

better than they have any right to be

[left verge]

Can you even call it a 'headphone' at that point 🤣

[lean grove]

arguably?

on-ear clips?

[lean grove]

get an hd600 or 6xx or 650

it doesnt get much more "accurate" than those

[left verge]

https://www.turtlebeach.com/products/recon-70-headset
Current ones
Pads are falling apart

[lean grove]

rip

[weak kraken]

ultralite mk5 can drive those fine right?

[lean grove]

~50 mW into 300 ohms.

it will be plenty

[elder thistle]

powur

[formal tundra]

cloud ii wireless or arctis 7 wireless

[haughty girder]

c2w

[livid ruin]

any other options?

i assume it has to be wireless or is wired okay?

[stone quartz]

Does anyone have any suggestions as to why my receiver isn't using the rear channels?

I've verified that it is showing as 8 channel capable in Windows, and that my test video is 5.1

[elder thistle]

the edition xs,

definitely does not have as much instrument separation or resolution as an ndh20

might even be short of the mc450, haven't compared that yet

even my sister thought that sounds were slightly blended, granted very enjoyable and immersive

[lean grove]

check to see if your rear channels are on the surround or the height channels

[stone quartz]

Definitely on the surround ones

I've verified that they're enabled in the receiver settings as well

It's playing the rear channels out of the front ones. I'll try it with a Blu-Ray player.

[formal tundra]

wireless

[livid ruin]

gaming i assume

[formal tundra]

yes

[livid ruin]

budget?

[formal tundra]

under $50 used

[livid ruin]

alright, can’t think of any 2.4ghz headphones at that range so, i’d get the hp ii wireless

[formal tundra]

ok ty

[mild rune]

does anyone have any suggestions for a pair of desktop speakers?

Budget: 600 USD / pair excl. Subwoofer if applicable
Connecting To: Gaming PC
Usage: Gaming, Music
Positioning: On a Desk / Using Desktop Stands
Color: Black / Wood / White
Region for availability: Singapore / Southeast Asia

Preferably something that looks decently good aesthetically too.

Currently Considering: AudioEngine HD5, maybe one of Edifier's speakers?

[main halo]

hshould i get a fifine mic or a hyperx quad

[stone quartz]

Is this a good deal?

Can get a further £75 off with that coupon

[steel escarp]

never heard of the brand

[stone quartz]

They make a floorstanding one as well

They look nice, but I haven't been able to demo them

[tired crown]

Does wearing earbuds a lot stretch your ear

I feel like my ear tip sizing is increasing every year

[haughty girder]

If you wear it enough yea

[vestal meadow]

yes

but not permanently

[lean grove]

@haughty girder @vestal meadow see i thought so too when i brought it up to a etymotic engineer at canjam and they said that shouldnt be possible

hydration can play a role in how big your ears hole are though

[vestal meadow]

oh intresting

not even temporarily?

[lean grove]

idk. i joked that etys ruined my ear holes since i have to use xl tips now instead of the normal and he said "that shouldnt be possible"

so maybe temp is possible

but in my experience i notice that i have to go up or down a tip size based on how much water ive drank, how much im sweating, and if ive taken a shower

[vestal meadow]

cool to know

that

so more water means large earhole?

or viceversa

[lean grove]

well you swell up if you drink more water

[vestal meadow]

cuz that is a legit tip when i wear my eardildo

[lean grove]

salt might also play a role 🤔

because if you oberhydrate without salt you'll just pee it out

idk. i havent done any empiral studies

[vestal meadow]

so a bit of mineral water

perhaps

[lean grove]

idk

mostly i notice it after biking and after taking a shower. i havent tracked my water intake vs eartip changing

im assuming salt and water plays a role since thats the easiest explanation

or maybe im just a freak whose head swells up randomly

[vestal meadow]

lol

or perhaps after sweating your inner cavity may be more moist than normal

hence easier insertion?

[lean grove]

well the thing is that i can actually feel the seal inside being lost and what was previously a snug fit is not very loose

so it might be that its not gripping as easily from the sweat

but i still think that my ears are changing

[vestal meadow]

that could also be aging too lol

[lean grove]

this is in a couple hours difference in time and goes back and forth

one day im medium and an hour or two later im not a large

and then after time time im an xl

[stone quartz]

This is why I can't be bothered to deal with IEMs

[vestal meadow]

how dare you /s

[stone quartz]

I think I've got weird ears

[vestal meadow]

na the issue is more specific with the etys tho

[vestal meadow]

mine are weird but not that weird luckily enough

[weak kraken]

never buy gaming-brand mics
https://youtu.be/rDvQvLFMl3Y?t=394

[livid ruin]

this

[weak kraken]

the hyperX mic gets criticized here in particular for having a too-easily-accessible dial for gain when it's something you should set once whenever you move it to a new acoustic space, and if you accidentally bump and move it you'll ruin your audio

that ROG mic is definitely the worst tho; whose fucking idea was it to have a single dial control gain, monitoring, and output all at once

...well i can't tell you whose idea it was but i can definitely tell you it wasn't an idea from an actual audio engineer

if you want a tl;dw on the rest of the video basically these gaming brands have no idea what they're doing and are charging you a premium for a product that's going to suck because they don't know what they're doing; go with audio brands for audio

[haughty girder]

I like to think of it as like your headphone dent or like your phone dent

Like it's not permanent

but with enough use it can definitely temporarily change the size... especially if you were using a size too large

Like headphones leave a dent in the middle of your head

your phone (assuming you hold it like me) leaves a dent in the side of the pinky

[tired crown]

1000% fifine am8

its the best mic under $100

[haughty girder]

...

it definitely isn't...

[viscid tangle]

If the se v7, lct 240, sm58/sm57, xm8500, Samson q2u didn’t exist

Maybe as a plug n play it would be one of the best options under $100 but as a mic in general, no

[warm flame]

any thoughts on the jbl tour pro 2?

[viscid tangle]

https://a.co/d/4bIMx04 if you can spend an extra $50 for an m track solo,

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XM8500--behringer-xm8500-handheld-dynamic-vocal-microphone? If you’re up to eq, you can get pretty good sound, you’d need an interface, get the m track audio interface

https://a.co/d/0gJnKVo dark sound

Would only get the xm8500 or fifine tank3 if you have a brighter voice, if it’s a dark voice get the se v7

I would suggest investing into xlr, if you get a decent budget interface like the audience evo 4, m 192 audio, mini fuse or at the more low midrange, motu m2, id4, ssl2, ssl2+

[haughty girder]

atr2100x > q2u

[haughty girder]

Xm8500 is pretty forgiving with technique and its freq response is generally okay for most voices

I'd say only avoid the xm8500 if you have a super boomy voice

[viscid tangle]

Yeah it was quite muddy in my voice even if I was 6 inches away lmao

[haughty girder]

I assume you're a baritone?

[haughty girder]

I'd actually say avoid the air 192, it's not a great interface

[viscid tangle]

Bass, I was a bass in highschool choir for 4 years too

[haughty girder]

Agree with Motu M2, Minifuse 1/2, Evo4 (though this one you have to avoid placing near power cables), uad volt line also has really nice preamps

[haughty girder]

oh that explains it

[viscid tangle]

Oh yeah uad one is good too

[haughty girder]

yea xm8500 lacks bass control and honestly is its biggest flaw

[versed reef]

Hi how are you guys?
can you recommend open-back headphones my headphone are making me sweat

[cloud stratus]

I made this with a broken headphone

[lean grove]

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx

[warm scarab]

what is this meant to be

[cloud stratus]

Speaker

[warm scarab]

I was in denial so had to ask just in case

[south falcon]

im new to setups with mics, headsets etc on PC
will these setups work with home consoles like PS5, Xbox series X?

[queen oar]

Can anyone recommend a replacement cable for the truthear x cinacle zeros

[haughty girder]

anything from xinhs

[cloud marlin]

Currently in the unfortunate position of needing a new headset, for gaming. Is there anything wireless with decent audio quality for preferably under 150€? (or not much higher)
Currently in the running Logitech G935 wireless https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Logitech-wireless-LIGHTSYNC-Surround-Headphone/dp/B07MTY7N22/
And SteelSeries Arctis 7+ https://www.amazon.de/-/en/SteelSeries-Arctis-Wireless-Gaming-Headset/dp/B09GW7NHL4/
For 120€ and 135€ respectively.
I know the general advice is "don't buy Gaming Headsets, you idiot", but considering that I do care about 2 things: gaming, and being able to walk around my home and still talk to my friends, I don't super see suited alternatives to gaming headsets? Any opinions / recs? (I do currently own a g935, and I'm generally happy with it, however the USB port broke somehow, making me unable to charge it, so I'm tempted to just re-buy it if there are no better options).

[queen oar]

Which one tho?
Some have different shapes and I'm not sure they'll fit

[viscid tangle]

How much are the Audeze Maxwells for you

[cloud marlin]

If you are refering to these, they are absolutely busting the budget.

[warm scarab]

they are 300 msrp man

@cloud marlin get the cloud 2 or something

arctis 7+ is a joke

[cloud marlin]

How so?

[warm scarab]

its a terrible headphone?

sounds awful

steelseries has manufactured maybe 2 usable headphones

and logitech has manufactured 1

hyperx has manufactured 0 because cloud 2 is something they bought

[cloud marlin]

What's the one logitech one? :D

[warm scarab]

but that's why its half decent

[warm scarab]

the g x pro or whatever

its like, not terrible

not a good headphone by any means but just not terrible one unlike the arctis 7+

[cloud marlin]

I liked the g935 I had before, but quite honestly it feels a bit like a 70€ headset that costs 120€.

[warm scarab]

that's generally how it is with gaming brands and especially with wireless options

wireless limits what you can do with a headphone significantly

[cloud marlin]

Yeah. I know best option is really a decent pair of headphones + desk mic, but I ran around my apartment + the basement, and I'd like to stay in calls for that, and listen to headphone music / podcasts while I cook etc, so headset it is. And since I wear it all day as a daily driver, from waking up to going to bed, it's useful to have all the gaming headset shit. One or two media keys, volume, bla bla.

[warm scarab]

yeah I mean if that's what works out for you it cant be helped

I can't really recommend much else than the cloud 2 at this budget

[cloud marlin]

Well, it's another 10€ cheaper than the logitech which is nice. (Right now the only thing stopping me is the uncertainty of going with the shit you know is acceptable, vs trying something new). Is the noise cancel feature toggle-able?

[warm scarab]

neither the logitech headphones and cloud 2 have noise cancelling?

[cloud marlin]

Then amazon is lying.

[warm scarab]

I mean yeah it is

I think there are like 3 gaming headphones with noise cancelling maybe

[cloud marlin]

Ah man. Why can't audio be easy. Every time I have to deal with audio I die a little inside.

[warm scarab]

Its not something you can clearly measure like gpus or cpus so its difficult to interpret data

[cloud marlin]

Also side rant: I'm so surprised that still, most headsets have absolute trashfire microphones. You can get quite high quality Lav mics, is it that difficult to stick one on a pair of decent headphones and create non-sucky mic experience?

[warm scarab]

dont think it is

[cloud marlin]

Oh yeah, "This gets 120 fps in cyberpunk with no drops" is a lot easier than: "this headphone has sub-par treble accuracy". I'm instantly lost. I have no frame of reference of how much that would bother me.

[viscid tangle]

Headphones are really something you have to test yourself, there are objective factors that make a headphone good but there’s still a lot of subjective variables like wanting bright headphones, wanting neutral, wanting bass cannons(no) and then there’s open backs and closed backs still one strong factor is how good the soundstage is. I think anyone would appreciate a good soundstage even if that’s a strong quality of open backs.

[cloud marlin]

Which is why I'm leaning so strongly towards the g935 again. Is it the best? Probably not. Is it good price / value, probably also not. But am I used to how it sounds, and happy with all it's basic features? Yeah, kinda.
The devil you know, you know?

It's either going with something I know is perfectly servicable, or gambling on something that I might be disappointed with.

[viscid tangle]

I’d personally just get wired headphones but if walking around the house is something you really want to do then it is what it is.

The Pc38x or Pc37x would be great wired headphones for your price.

[cloud marlin]

For wired?

[viscid tangle]

Yes for wired

[viscid tangle]

Cloud 2 does have it, we had used them for an esports tournament and it blocked out a great deal of audio

Wasn’t software noise cancelling it was just by design

[warm scarab]

that isn't noise cancelling

noise cancelling is listening onto surroundings with a microphone

and cancelling with countering sound waves

[cloud marlin]

Yeah so honestly, if I have the money, I would maybe consider getting a pair of wired headphones and a desk mic, for general gaming, and then maybe a headset for AFK activities, (I also have a TV hooked up to the PC, to relax and watch stuff on the bigger screen, for which I also use the headphones then). But until then the Headphone is kind of the "5 in one shampoo" solution. Not the greatest in any of it, but conveniently doing all of it.

[viscid tangle]

Yes I meant to put, it’s more like isolation and it’s great isolation

You can’t hear anyone beside you

[warm scarab]

yes that is called sound isolation

its not a great thing to have for sound performance

isolated echo chambers are generally not what you hear in real life

[viscid tangle]

I use open back hifiman Arya stealth and yeah the clouds were awful audio wise

Sound staging was a huge step down but they are $50 gaming headsets so what to expect

My headphones were $1000 so of course the differences are stark

[cloud marlin]

110 here, Jesus.

This one. Also sidenote: I HATE how so many products don't have names any more, but are just bullet point lists of features.

[viscid tangle]

All headphone companies do this

Even very high end ones well they do state the name of the product like one in the picture

[cloud marlin]

More a "this is a problem for almost all products on amazon" rant, but yeah, also headphone companies.

But then also stuff like this: "Hyper X Cloud II Core Wireless Gaming Headset for PC" vs: "HyperX Cloud II Wireless Gaming Headset Pc", there's no way that's not confusing to the consumer.

[viscid tangle]

You could do it by buying 100 euro headphones and a fifine mic

Shure has some pretty cheap options under 100 euros

Pair that with an am8

[cloud marlin]

See: #audio-tech message

[viscid tangle]

Or atr2100

[viscid tangle]

Yeah just stick to getting the hyperx then

[cloud marlin]

If I didn't care about wireless features and being able to move around, I'd 1000% get wired headphones and a mic. Heck, probably get an overpriced mic because people always tell me to do audio lewds, could finally get on that.

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/nuts-anton-cigurh-no-country-for-old-men-gif-27499167

[warm scarab]

embed fail

[lean grove]

If only there were a gif to say exactly that 😔

[viscid tangle]

Overpriced mic? Sennheiser mkh416 + Neumann interface with high end sound treatment

Dream mic arsenal would be the mkh 416, re20 and ls208

[sleek lily]

If it's for gaming just get an open box deva and a $20 mic tbh

[haughty girder]

I don't think they have any completely flush connectors and that's the only ones that don't work

half recess and full recess 2 pin both work with truthear

[queen oar]

What do you mean completely flush connectors?

[haughty girder]

the housing goes all the way down with the red part to contact the body of the iem

if it looks like this (or the red part is even more exposed) it will work

that one is a half recess

[queen oar]

Oh ok thanks 👍

[cedar knot]

Hey guys I’m looking for a pair of headphones that are good for gaming and listening to music as I ride the bus to school everyday. I want them to be white to go with my setup, have anc, comfortable and not strain my ears for $150 USD and under. any recommendations?

[lean grove]

Klaus is a big dumb idiot

[warm scarab]

nu uh

you are

[warm scarab]

cant really find 1 headphone that does all of that

there is like the razer baracuda but its garbage

[cedar knot]

People are saying the ux3000 or the jbl tune 760nc

[warm scarab]

yeah tune is not good for gaming unless you like having 200ms delay

99% of gaming headsets use 2.4ghz dongles and not bluetooth so they don't have this delay issue

[cedar knot]

I could use a wire with it if needed but i think imma get the ux3000

[cedar knot]

Ik

My phone Bluetooth tho

[warm scarab]

tune 760 looks really atrocious measurement wise

and ux3000 has like no measurements

[cedar knot]

@warm scarab https://a.co/d/2PIkz4H Wb these

[warm scarab]

looks similar to the available ux3000 measuements

[cedar knot]

Alr

[warm scarab]

id buy this over the other two but are you comparing the anc quality

it still has a midbass issue and will probably sound really boomy but its slightly better

[cedar knot]

@warm scarab what about the edified w830nb apparently they are insane for the price how do they compare to the ux3000

[warm scarab]

looks bad

did you read a soundguys article or something

[cedar knot]

Damn really

[warm scarab]

where did you find this

[cedar knot]

Picky audio and other videos

So the ux3000 is the only good one under 200

[warm scarab]

among the given options it looks like the better one

it will sound fairly congested and flaccid but so will the others save for 760

which is very v shaped

[cedar knot]

What 760

I just want the best for 200

I know nothing about headphones

[warm scarab]

jbl tune 760

[cedar knot]

Nc or non nc

Cause the I’ll tune 760 was one I was looking at

But I just want the best nc headphone

@warm scarab is the 760nc the best nc headphone under $200? It’s only 90

[warm scarab]

no when did i say that

[cedar knot]

U didn’t

[warm scarab]

mate like these headphones are all kind of bad its sieving through shit

[cedar knot]

How is a $200 headphone bad bruh

[warm scarab]

because its not a market that people that want good audio invest in

go get the 760 if you want stupid loud bass and save 110$ ig

[cedar knot]

Then what should I get

[warm scarab]

go get the sony xm4 maybe

actually bose qc45

slightly better

[cedar knot]

True wireless Werner’s better than headphones?

Earbuds

[warm scarab]

sometimes

[cedar knot]

Then what’s good sound for 200

[warm scarab]

its the wireless travel headphone market man

qc45 is alright

xm4 is usable

[cedar knot]

$350

[warm scarab]

xm4 it is then

[cedar knot]

$300

I mean bruhtha

[warm scarab]

760nc it is then

or the ux3000

actually how much is the qc35

[elder thistle]

there's isn't a basis to directly look at how a headphone or earphone sounds and say "this is good" or "this is bad" in a way that everyone will agree with. sound quality is our personal preferences times what we listen to times the large set of perceived sound quality aspects

as you can see, none of these have been discussed

[warm scarab]

so read what jackson has said

and disregard it because its a dumb idea

[cedar knot]

$350

[warm scarab]

that doesn't make sense

[elder thistle]

but it won't really help you anyways because few of us pay attention to wireless headphones

[warm scarab]

its the same price as qc45?

[cedar knot]

I have $200 MAX

Oh no hold on

[elder thistle]

e.g some people love the k361 and will tell others to get it

[cedar knot]

They are $300

[warm scarab]

https://www.amazon.com/Bose-QuietComfort-Wireless-Headphones-Cancelling/dp/B079NM341X/ref=sr_1_2?crid=21XFHNUU77PZ6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oa2aJs2ys-XSWBBSop0RXaLjWU5ZoQV8LLwuslMdhgBsjftlCEOE5c4nI4VAe27FJnmwrhRFwPHmFsxN9LLpSTH-X0LHGcj4xAGFbWg2hoN9nmIyGx3g0SsPgz0fiMFs-Q2dNdR922ShOuFnd3ZG5XZrycQMzbJN8UoAQnLPrq5g3JKheDHXKiMt4VA-4x3cwUzoda4wwUwbBG25uIFgd382m3otOfeEbSTnCW4pdao.sWTB96toQEhinzRSQo8ddD3AWKEd_ZvMUNGhKm259kc&dib_tag=se&keywords=bose+qc35&qid=1726625231&refresh=1&sprefix=bose+qc35%2Caps%2C282&sr=8-2

there you go

renewed 177$

[elder thistle]

then those people who got the k361 are very upset and would rather use $15 walmart earbuds

this will, unavoidably, happen to you for every product recommendation you will ever recieve from another human being

it's just a matter of how much

[warm scarab]

this person is you?

[cedar knot]

No white?

[warm scarab]

bro stfu

[elder thistle]

I've seen it happen to a handful of gamers, musicians, and audiophiles that all aren't me

[warm scarab]

same happens a lot to my friends

then i tell them they are dumb and to use the headphone for 5 days

then they thank me saying they realize how good it is now

[elder thistle]

m50x

[warm scarab]

trash

why would anyone use m50x over 20$ chifi iems

its directly worse in every way

[elder thistle]

a lot of the people I know swear by it. even after using k371 or srh440 non-A

[warm scarab]

pro audio meme

people who spent 10 years using 1 headphone will prefer it shocker

[elder thistle]

nah not like that

[cedar knot]

Dude

[warm scarab]

I can provide you good headphones

[cedar knot]

I want it to go with my setup everything is white

[warm scarab]

I cannot provide you white headphones

[warm scarab]

it goes on your head

[cedar knot]

760nc are white

[warm scarab]

you don't see the headphone

[cedar knot]

Ux3000 are white

[warm scarab]

ok go get them then

if you want looks over function dont come to an audio channel go to a fashion one instead

[livid ruin]

Out of the two the 760nc, what's your budget

?

[cedar knot]

nothing over $200 Ux 3000 or soundcore q45?

@livid ruin

[livid ruin]

Never get soundcores unless you don't care about sound at all

[tall fog]

I'm shopping for new mics. are cardioid condenser microphones a good choice for the average user? I also have an xlr interface

this was the mic I was eyeing out earlier https://www.amazon.com/Samson-C01-Diaphragm-Hyper-Cardioid-Microphone/dp/B0002D080C

[quiet ice]

Wow mega bass extreme

[quiet ice]

Idk man

That line isn’t flat enough

Turbo treble extreme

[elder thistle]

100-4k is pretty good, but otherwise yes

it's almost exactly hitting what the dt880 600R does in the treble, minus the 8k spike

however look what happens with 6db of eq and headroom

[elder thistle]

the eq I use is pushing +3db at 70hz net, since that's where the 6db boost remains constant from then on

the largest dip is -12db at 10khz, per eq settings

[cedar knot]

Oh

[fringe root]

Anyone have any suggestions for a DAC with Toslink input to RCA L/R output? Seems like there is cheap 20 boxes on Amazon or $100+ for something audiophile

[lean grove]

Do you want to get something cheap or something worthwhile

[sleek lily]

It seems both of these have a slight density variance

About 25%

[rancid vector]

Hey anyone got experience with Maxwell's?

[fringe root]

worthwhile but not overly expensive.

i wish there was a pcpartpicker for home theatre stuff

[rancid vector]

Got a issue with on the left ear it is rattling

[lean grove]

Take a look at the Smsl po100

And yeah unfortunately it's very hard to do that with speakers and amps and DACs and stuff since it's pretty difficult to tell what's better or worse without having a lot of knowledge ahead of time or without auditioning them.

[lean grove]

Audeze tech support might have experience with the Maxwells.

[cedar knot]

What should I get under 200 then bro

[livid ruin]

the 760nc at $70 are fine, tho i’d suggest wired like 6xx, 560s or sundaras or such

[cedar knot]

I don’t want wired bc I’m gonna use it for music aswell and I use iPhone so I don’t have 3.5 jack so bt is a need I think

I was between ux3000 and 760nc but I couldn’t really find any others that were good under $200

Do you think wireless earbuds would work better?

[livid ruin]

tws y

[cedar knot]

What’s the best tws under $200

And if I did get the bt headphones you think I should get ux3000?

Under $200

[livid ruin]

unsure at $200 tbh, i’d wait til someone gives a recommendation

do you need anc?

[cedar knot]

No but it would be nice considering the kids on my bus are kinda loud

[warm scarab]

26% actually

[warm scarab]

he wants to game with them too

so tws are a no go

[livid ruin]

ah

[cedar knot]

Anyone have a take on the space q45?

[livid ruin]

(do not buy!)

like pretty much anything else but those

[cedar knot]

There’s so few options

[livid ruin]

welp, at your budget and preference you have to choose between sound quality and low wireless latency

[cedar knot]

When I game with it I’m plugging it in so latency ain’t a issue that much

[livid ruin]

also, do q45’s support 2.4g, if not you will experience decent latency during gaming if you do play games

[livid ruin]

ah

jbl tune 710bt/720bt/760nc headphones under $100

[cedar knot]

Yes they are 2,4

[livid ruin]

that’s a plus but their sound is still horrible

[cedar knot]

Oof

Why is there so few options

Other than the ux3000

[livid ruin]

welp, wireless adds up to the price

all the extra components

[cedar knot]

Wb $250

[livid ruin]

welp, probably the ux3000 are also fine, tho i’d recommend til someone recommend you a better headphone at your budget

they’re for sure better than anker tho

ideally don’t buy from any gaming company

like razer or logi or such, the headphones suck for the price

[cedar knot]

I’ve been asking everywhere it’s like always ux3000

[livid ruin]

anyways i gtg

[cedar knot]

Alr

[livid ruin]

yeah ux3000 if you don’t have any other option or 760nc

i’d wait tho but you can’t go that much wrong with either

[cedar knot]

Ok

[timid echo]

are wired headphones usually better sounding than wireless?

might be a stupid question cus it seems like wired is the obvious answer but im not sure

[lean grove]

Sometimes yes. All of the best sounding headphones in the world are wired.

Wireless headphones have more components so in order to be competitive prices they skimp out on other places. Like build and tuning.

But if it's done right, wireless headphones can use DSP and built-in EQ to cheat and be pretty good.

[timid echo]

Can you recommend me some good headphones that are wired? I have moondrop aria earbuds rn and they sound good but I realised earbuds aren't for me

they're uncomfortable

not too expensive but something that will sound clean and better than the arias

[warm scarab]

budget?

[warm scarab]

arias are fairly heavy in ears

they were good like years back, not a good purchase now

[timid echo]

What I also hate with earbuds is when I come out of the shower and my ears are still a bit wet

and when I put earbuds in

i hate that feeling

[warm scarab]

lol

[timid echo]

i'm never getting earbuds again

[warm scarab]

its a loss if you ask me but ok

anyways

what is the budget

[timid echo]

switching from earbuds?

[warm scarab]

no just denying earbuds forever

[timid echo]

what do u think would be a good amount to spend?

[warm scarab]

they are great for travel

[timid echo]

for good quality

[warm scarab]

like 150-200$ish

[timid echo]

if i'm travelling i just use airpods

[warm scarab]

its a good entry point

[timid echo]

that will do

[warm scarab]

you can spend thousands if you'd like its a parameter you will need to determine yourself

[timid echo]

oh nah im not that serious about it

i just want something decent

but not too expensive

[warm scarab]

do you have large ears

[timid echo]

nah not really

[warm scarab]

check how much 6xx costs

and hd560s

[timid echo]

im in the uk

just searched for 6xx

theres like none

[warm scarab]

yeah uk is fucked

cant find it there

check hd560s

[timid echo]

£180

[warm scarab]

overpriced but ig thats normal by uk standards

[timid echo]

thats 240 dollars

[warm scarab]

check pc38x

[timid echo]

hard to find too

[warm scarab]

akg k612?

and he400se

[timid echo]

damn wtf

refurbished

but

[warm scarab]

yeah thats cheap af compared to hd560s

[timid echo]

thats refurbished though

[warm scarab]

but wtf is that site

[timid echo]

and theres no new ones

[warm scarab]

still

[timid echo]

Cex

[warm scarab]

anyhow

[timid echo]

they resell

and buy

[warm scarab]

k

[timid echo]

tech

[warm scarab]

ok anyways

he400se

how much

[timid echo]

£130

[steel escarp]

the fiio ft1 is arriving tomorrow

[timid echo]

170 dollars

[warm scarab]

that should be like 110$ normally in the states lol

[timid echo]

why are uk prices so shitt

[warm scarab]

brexit

lol

[steel escarp]

seems like a vibe

will hear tomorrow

[warm scarab]

with the options you have I'd either go for the refurbished k612 or the 400se as nothing else fits into the budget

[timid echo]

will all of those sound better than the arias at least?

[warm scarab]

id say I enjoy 400se far more than the arias

I wont lie I've never used the k612

[steel escarp]

he400se is something special

[timid echo]

arias also have insanely bad drivers or whatever theyre called

[warm scarab]

its supposedly something equivalent to hd560s according to several people I've asked

but I've never used it before

[warm scarab]

no amplifier though

[timid echo]

i had to get 2 replacements for the arias and they ended up refunding me in the end too

[warm scarab]

good

free iems

[timid echo]

2 free + refund

[steel escarp]

I was using it with a mangni modi 3+ stack

[warm scarab]

win if you ask me

[steel escarp]

cant say much about with no amplifier

[warm scarab]

yeah but this dude doesn't have an amplifier budget

he has no headroom for bass shelf eq if he finds it lacking

I mean I'd presume he doesn't

[steel escarp]

I never had issues with the bass personally

it had more bass than dt770

[timid echo]

yeah i 100% dont want an insanely op audio setup

[warm scarab]

motherboards don't give 400se too much headroom do they?

[steel escarp]

oh dont plug it into motherboard

[warm scarab]

oh shit actually

[steel escarp]

just get bluetooth at that point

[warm scarab]

you brought up something good

dt880

[timid echo]

i cant with the delay because i edit videos

[warm scarab]

@timid echo how much does dt880 cost

[steel escarp]

motherboard audio is really really bad

unless its from a laptop

those usually have decent outputs

[timid echo]

£130 as well

[warm scarab]

i think go for dt880 250ohm

[steel escarp]

why 250 ohms

he has motherboard

[warm scarab]

its enough dude

[steel escarp]

I cant get it loud enough from my motherboard audio

[warm scarab]

because you suck

or your motherboard does from what I've so far heard

[steel escarp]

and it sounds not just bad, but legit broken when using my motherboard audio

front panel audio jack

[warm scarab]

higher impedance make that less apparent

[steel escarp]

heavy distortion

[warm scarab]

it just sounds like your motherboard's audio is shit dude

[steel escarp]

bro

its front panel motherboard audio

[warm scarab]

your garbage ass mobo is not an excuse for the rest of the industry

ok

more the reason

[steel escarp]

front panel is never good

rear audio can be good

[warm scarab]

@timid echo try finding the 250ohm version if you cant settle for 32

absolutely dont get the 600ohm version

[steel escarp]

250 ohms version is widely available second hand

[warm scarab]

uk

its weird

they drink like tea with milk or something

[steel escarp]

imagine if fiio ft1 is shit when I get it tomorrow

I flip it on ebay

I am honestly afraid of the earcups being too small if anything

[warm scarab]

tf is this

its fiio

[steel escarp]

generally liked fiio dynamic headphones

[warm scarab]

why would it be good

[steel escarp]

fiio ft3 is good

[warm scarab]

idk its you who's saying it

[steel escarp]

its better than dt880

its just not comfortable to wear

[warm scarab]

big ears?

[timid echo]

ok

[timid echo]

how much are they in the us?

[warm scarab]

dont know

like 120 i think

[steel escarp]

no, my guess is that they are made for the chineese market where everyone generally has smaller ears

[lean grove]

Hd6xx/600/650 from Sennheiser. Hd560s is well recommended, but I haven't heard them.

[steel escarp]

outside his budget

[warm scarab]

shut up

big ear freak

[timid echo]

what are these i think i've heard of them before

[steel escarp]

my ears are not even that big

[warm scarab]

big ear freak

[steel escarp]

get dt880 instead

[warm scarab]

get out of here

[warm scarab]

trash

dt990 too

trash

[lean grove]

Grey has elephant ears that dropp down to his shoulders 🫵🐘👂😂😂🤣🤣😭

[warm scarab]

😹 😹 😹

[steel escarp]

I would send a picture

[lean grove]

Would get tagged as NSFW

[steel escarp]

but sending your pinna is basically like sending your finger print

[warm scarab]

shut up elephant ass

[lean grove]

Getting pinna pics from grey 😳

He showed me his pinnas

[warm scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

[steel escarp]

airpod 2 pro for reference

[warm scarab]

wtf dude

[steel escarp]

actually, its not even big

[warm scarab]

that is so freakish

disgusting

delete it

[steel escarp]

why

[warm scarab]

💀 💀 💀

[steel escarp]

@lean grove

did you see

[timid echo]

i would get wireless headphones but im a video editor and audio turns out off beat and stuff with wireless headphones

so i need wired

[warm scarab]

just grab the 880 man

[timid echo]

yeah

i will try see if i can find in the uk

[steel escarp]

dt880 requires EQ

[warm scarab]

no it doesnt

[steel escarp]

it has spicy treble spikes

[warm scarab]

you cant unfuck spikes with eq

[steel escarp]

you somewhat can

if they are not massive

like 10dB

[warm scarab]

if they aren't thin peaks you can

but dt880 isn't in that category as far as I remember

[steel escarp]

bro, just EQ down the whole treble range

[timid echo]

shii theyre also hard to find in the uk

[steel escarp]

I permanently have a high shelf filter on with he1000v2 stealth

Filter: ON HS Fc 4000 Hz Gain -5 dB

[timid echo]

and out of stock on amazon

what is ohm?

[warm scarab]

the 32 ohm are fine

if the 250 aren't available

its unideal but its ok

[warm scarab]

resistance

[steel escarp]

perfection

[lean grove]

See what

[steel escarp]

my pinna

I posted it

[timid echo]

what does that do with audio?

[lean grove]

No I think discord flagged it as nsfw

[warm scarab]

i turned off nsfw warnings and fuck me man its terrible

[steel escarp]

yall are playing too much

[warm scarab]

higher resistance is easier to power

[frosty ocean]

does SDR count as Audio Tech?

[steel escarp]

🚪 🚶‍♂️

[warm scarab]

but less loud

[lean grove]

It affects how the headphone interacts with an amplifier. Its not something you need to worry about unless you get the 600 ohm Beyers. In which case if you get those things might be too quiet.

[steel escarp]

bro, it literally requires the exact same amount of watt

[lean grove]

Otherwise feel free to ignore it.

[warm scarab]

ohms are only relevant when the subject is beyerdynamics

[frosty ocean]

Amount of what?

[steel escarp]

the sensitivity of the drivers dont change in the beyerdynamics

[lean grove]

Yes but amps distort less into higher impedance meaning it's easier to power.

[warm scarab]

because they are the only company stupid enough to have 3 different versions of their lineup with difference impedances

[steel escarp]

only if the amp has a high output impedance

also if your amp doesn't have the gain, you're cooked

[frosty ocean]

If an amp doesnt have gain...is it even an amp?

[warm scarab]

yeah and what prevents you from delivering that

[steel escarp]

the required gain

[warm scarab]

the impedance

[timid echo]

HE400SE is in stock on amazon and same price

[warm scarab]

grey like

wtf man

[steel escarp]

klaus you dont know math

[warm scarab]

i wouldn't get it without an amplifier

[warm scarab]

grey you don't know physics

how the fuck is the same circuitry with more impedance as efficient

[steel escarp]

its not more or less efficient

[warm scarab]

its less efficient its less volume outputted for the ratio

[steel escarp]

the same amount of wattage is needed for the same loudness

the efficiency of the driver does not change

[timid echo]

are amps expensive?

[warm scarab]

same wattage is needed

[steel escarp]

the driver has the same sensitivity

[warm scarab]

but to achieve the same wattage

the required voltage and current is different

and one of them is easier for amplifiers to output

one isn't

[steel escarp]

dt880 is efficient enough to the point where it will probably never be current limited

[warm scarab]

if it was the same thing and just the balance changing in application we'd make headphones with 10000 kilo ohm impedances that run at 0.0000001 amp

[warm scarab]

in what way is this a counterpoint to what I said

the ratio changes

[steel escarp]

the current an amplifier can output decreases with impedance

[warm scarab]

and that isnt always good

[steel escarp]

with an apple dongle you can get around 84dB of loudness from 32 ohms and 75dB of loudness when using the 250 ohms version
@warm scarab

if my math is mathing

[warm scarab]

outputting volume doesn't mean its not distorting

decibels is not the only part to the equation

[steel escarp]

regardless, I hope that their motherboard output is more powerful than an apple dongle

[warm scarab]

apple dongle is neat but like

its been outdated by motherboards for a long time

issue was that it was not all of them

still isn't

market has gotten way better but there are really sucky mobo audios

[lean grove]

It becomes an impedance buffer.

https://www.firstwatt.com/product/f4/

[steel escarp]

Just get an ifi product for high Impedance stuff

They always have too much gain

[lean grove]

Just add a 1 ohm resistor in parallel with your headphones

Lowers the impedance to about 1 ohm

[steel escarp]

Ifi potentiometer casually having an imbalance below 11 o'clock

And 12 o'clock is loud af

[chrome imp]

https://electronics.woot.com/offers/new-klipsch-r-41pm-powered-bookshelf-speakers-pair-3?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_elec_5_37

Any good?

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-gesture-the-wire-meh-gif-13792752

edifier gonna have better value stuff

actually is this for a TV or for a desk

[chrome imp]

Would be for TV

[lean grove]

will be fine.

but i'd still check out options from edifier

[chrome imp]

Ok thanks, appreciate it

[sand falcon]

currently have the Corsair HS60 headset for my computer. I'm looking to get a new set of headphones as these are wearing down after a few years, i've heard that studio headphones are superior to regular gaming ones, i've also heard good things about IEM's but i'm not sure if i will like them. Wireless seems like a more convenient option in general but i dont mind the cable. Looking to spend around $100 max give or take some
I also have a seperate microphone so if the headset happens to come with a built in mic i would rather it detachable

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/eOXCEsTyv7s

[sleek lily]

Wait til he finds out about stax

[lean grove]

🤮

[sleek lily]

Nils, you complain about everything (unless it's clipping or the exact opposite of what a use case needs)

You seem miserable

[lean grove]

you seem like you're projecting

and again, rent free

whats weird is that i completely forget about you every time your message leaves the chat window and you seem to specifically be obsessed with me

this one sided relationship is unhealthy for you

[frosty ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541749700966088705/1286209554509729813/20240918_231638.jpg

[manic cedar]

Hi All, I'm from the UK and I am looking to get a soundbar for my TV. I do lots of gaming on the TV through my Xbox Series X and PS5 and watch tons of movies, I have a small ish room, so I just wondered if anyone could recommend me some soundbar options.

Soundbars are so confusing to buy. So many options!

For context my TV is the LG NanoCell NANO75 55" 4K Smart TV

I've got no budget but something reasonable 🙂

[steel escarp]

I aint even gonna lie

fiio ft1 with some very slight EQ is a steal for 160 euros

driving it off my laptop output atm

[steel escarp]

driving it off my amp, its honestly better than dt880

it has quite a lot off bass without EQ tho

[buoyant vale]

So when are you sending it back?

[unique wind]

[gentle quiver]

amps are mainly for speakers right? i havent seen many sub with outputs that arent aux rca or something like that unlike speakers where most of the higher end ones require u to buy your own copper cables to connect to amp(from what ive seen)

also mannn fuck the US, why do they never show taxes on the actual price and only show it in checkout the delivery wouldve been bad enough but the extra taxes just make this sub not worth buying at all

[sleek lily]

Amplifiers can be for headphones, iems, speakers, etc

[gentle quiver]

ye but they arent required for headphones and iems right? like i dont think ive seen a pair of headphones that requires a amp unlike passive speakers

[sleek lily]

In a way they kinda are

External amps might not be required though

[gentle quiver]

ye thats what i thought (:

[sleek lily]

But depends on the quality of sound you want and the quantity

Because amps play a role beyond just volume

[gentle quiver]

ye ive barely touched the surface with that type of stuff i mainly just trying to power some passive speakers ill get soon and connect em to a sub

since the speedwoofer apparently is wayyy out of my budget with tax and shipping could u reccomend me a sub at around £250 to pair with the elac debut 2.0 b5.2s

[lean grove]

Speedwoofer my beloved

[gentle quiver]

ye it looks amazing

but sadly only really worth it in murica

[lean grove]

How do you plan on hooking up the sub?

[gentle quiver]

honestly no clue lol i got a basic ah amp someone reccomended me for the passive speakers but thats it

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DDTVWN3V?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title dis

ill have to figure out how to connect my current sub to it aswell edifier t5

[lean grove]

Oh my.

[gentle quiver]

ye i asked someone for a cheap amp and thats what i got lol

[lean grove]

I think that's meant for powering a passive subwoofer

But I'm not sure

[gentle quiver]

o.o

[lean grove]

It's fine. I think.

If you plan on using that, you'll need to find a subwoofer with speaker terminals on the back

These days I think I see it on the more expensive subwoofers

The speedwoofer 10s has it

[gentle quiver]

ye i was looking at those

[lean grove]

Even though it's not passive, it can handle a speaker amp output and use that as a signal.

[gentle quiver]

those are massive

#tech-chat-1 message they said they use speakers with it too so it should work

so its highly unlikely ill get to plug my t5 into it since its got a amp in it?

[lean grove]

Yeah it'll work with speakers but I think getting the right subwoofer in your budget to properly work with this amp

Let's see what the back of the t5 looks like

Yeah I think it might be tricky to hook this up to the t5

Not impossible.

[gentle quiver]

it was perfect for the edifier r33bts but those got fried lol so ye now ill be getting new speakers and a upgrade

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/rQeYdz7vKqQ

Watch this

[gentle quiver]

i shall

this doesnt seem all that complicated tbh

[lean grove]

Yeah this is the easy part. I just don't know what's going on with that amp.

[gentle quiver]

lol