audio-tech

[strong moat]

(am broke)

[lean grove]

eastern european moment

[strong moat]

Jokes on you i am not from europe

[elder thistle]

ah, somalia

[lean grove]

that would be the most logical conclusion, yes

[errant wharf]

Anyone have experience with the letshuoer x aoshida e20? Looking for a set of iems around $50-70 usd. Im reading they are a decent alternative to zero reds

[cosmic wraith]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe7oBeT8/

[cosmic wraith]

is dtt2500 cambridge soundworks better than ifi zen air dac?

[buoyant vale]

One is a shitty 5.1 system and one is a dac/headphone amp? 🤨

[cosmic wraith]

3.1

[errant wharf]

Not really comparable products

[cosmic wraith]

one has dolby and one mqa

[lean grove]

Mqa is kinda dead and useless

But also there's more that goes into a DAC than codecs and licensing

[cosmic wraith]

Clear

They are creative

[lean grove]

Creative in my eyes has always been like, the better of the PC audio market. But recently people have been dealing that they don't need half the bells and whistles that they offer. Like virtual surround sound or "crystalizer" effects.

It's just better to get something that does the thing you need it to do and does it well. Gamers get easily distracted by more features they might not even need so traditional PC audio devices come with way more things than necessary.

[cosmic wraith]

anyway the old tools are top!

[lean grove]

Are they

[cosmic wraith]

Ok

[icy salmon]

anyone have any recommendations for a bluetooth speaker similar to the sony xg500?

[lean grove]

Why don't you just get an xg500 if it's what you want

[icy salmon]

idk if theres any other competitors that are comparable. im kinda hoping for something cheaper

[lean grove]

What does the xg500 do that other speakers don't

[icy salmon]

let me make a list of things that i like about it real quick

its a large "boombox" sized portable speaker

decent battery life

great sound

large drivers

[lean grove]

I mean that's pretty generic requests. JBL has ue have some stuff that's probably gonna be pretty good.
Although UE tends to focus more on durability and portability at the expense of worse bass extension.

So I'd say check out options from JBL.

I'm not super familiar with the but speaker market, but to me it looks like the $300-$400 for the xg500 is gonna be pretty much the same for similar speakers.

[icy salmon]

ill keep that in mind. if anyone has anything else to say or recommend please mention me or reply with notification on, i dont check this chat often

[cosmic wraith]

Ok?

[haughty girder]

Sidegrade, at best

different tuning

what are you trying to get out of them?

[errant wharf]

Not looking to upgrade from zero reds but id like something that will be more comfortable since the zero reds have a larger nozzle. The only iem i have is salnotes zeros. I want something i can wear at my desk when i want something lighter than headphones

[haughty girder]

I assume it's the length of the nozzle that's the problem?

cause E20 and Artti R1 (my other recc) nozzle is a similar diameter but a lot shorter

[errant wharf]

The zero reds are wide. Just a little bit more than the 7hz zeros i have and im at the smallest possible ear tip

[haughty girder]

have you tried 3rd party tips>

[errant wharf]

Not yet

[haughty girder]

I'd recc you try out tip rolling, but E20 is a decent alternative, especially if you don't want to go R1

[errant wharf]

Ill give eartips a shot. I'm definitely looking for comfort

[haughty girder]

I cracked my Reds

I just remembered

most of my tips didn't fit...

if you have the money you could try out the Spinfit W1 which I now use on my Kiwi Cadenza

I'm waiting for another pair of fully resin iems that can be considered an upgrade to the zero reds as I get shocked by metal faceplates and such (it's cold here)

[haughty girder]

it's a really tight fit on the zero red given its huge nozzle, but might be worth the shot

[haughty girder]

ancient, outdated

also not very comfortable

[haughty girder]

xtreme 3/4 is a bit better for possibly a little cheaper

Jbl partybox is not quite a boombox style but might also do

[errant wharf]

Not worried about metal here. Its usually too humid and static is pretty rare except winter

[haughty girder]

it's winter where I live for over half the year lmao

and goes as low as -40C including windchill

[errant wharf]

Ouch

[haughty girder]

-10C is my comfort temperature but even then, static starts to become an issue

so I only use resin iems

Anyway for you, maybe give the W1 a shot

if it doesn't work then Aoshida E20 and Artti R1 are my main two reccs for you

as alternatives to the Reds*

[broken smelt]

How do i take the grille off the sanyo

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-wensleydale-hammer-gif-20832217

[silver elm]

Some more analog audio tomfoolery I thought I'd share for y'all

True quad channel audio on compact cassette via two decks running in sync with each other
The one on the left is playing the rear left right channels, with the right side deck playing the front left and right channels
The outputs then ran into my receivers quad / 5.1 input

It takes about 7 and a half minutes for the difference in wow and flutter between the decks to cause a variance with the deck on the right picking up some speed over the other

[frozen badger]

No way I used to have one of those, i still got an iPhone 4s I used to use with it

[silver elm]

I digitized these tapes now in an effort to modernize the digital files of this rare hard to find quadrophonic version of the album. I've finished restoring and mixing the first track off the album, figured I'd share as well for a proper sample.
This is a true quadrophonic high res digital audio file, If you're set up to play surround properly, this will be true quad.

[elder thistle]

had to start labeling earpads so I dont forget where people can buy them

[livid ruin]

got a pair of kph30i's and personally I don't like 'em over my modded hd681's

kph30i's with grado pads

[steel escarp]

@lean grove

I put some tape over the LEDs that I colored with a black permanent marker to temporarily take care of the annoying LEDs

The Holo Cyan 2 is in

Will let you know how it sounds in 3 days

[livid ruin]

poor soundstage, eh- actually on par'ish imaging compared to my hd681's, the 4.2khz dip makes the treble sound off, muddy, they sound a bit clearer but the dip just ruins it

imo they're overrated

[unique wind]

lads my truthear novas are falling apart i’m gonna have to glue or tape them

[livid ruin]

oh, i'll give them that they're more comfortable

[livid ruin]

rip

[unique wind]

the sound is unaffected so it’s okay

the build quality for a $150 iem is pretty unacceptable tho

[livid ruin]

laughs with kz

[unique wind]

if only kz castor was actually good

[livid ruin]

kz does pretty decent job with bq

[livid ruin]

yeah, bit too bright

and the soundstage and imaging is mid

[unique wind]

and has distortion issue

[livid ruin]

I haven't pulled them for a month

[livid ruin]

I haven't noticed any

[livid ruin]

damn

[unique wind]

they’ve gotta sound pretty harsh with the excess ear gain and distortion in that region too

[livid ruin]

I haven't noticed any harshness tbh, they just overall sound bright imo

not piering harsh or anything

I don't like the small 3k mountain

kinda disappointed from the kph30i's

i'll give them a day and prob never pull them out again or resell them

they are also bit bright was it feels in the 6k region with the grado pads

hopefully he400se's turn out better

[steel escarp]

the chifi experience

[elder thistle]

kph40 has way safer tuning. dark though

[steel escarp]

I heard several people say their nova died or was falling apart, hence I didn't get them

[elder thistle]

$40 is kinda a lot for a pair of koss drivers

[lean grove]

Kph40 is my favorite koss but it's also my number one broken koss

[elder thistle]

like it has its strengths but its outpaced easily in other ways

[lean grove]

Like durability

[elder thistle]

f

i dont know why they made the cable "detachable" the way they did

I literally feel insulted

they know what customers wanted and they cared so little they made a smartass answer

ugh

good as a quick access headphone though

[lean grove]

I wouldn't care if it's detachable if they used the same connection they used on the porta pro and ksc75

[elder thistle]

yeah

and sparing the gimmick would help their case more than what it is currently

[livid ruin]

I paid 16 bucks for my kph30i's and grado pads

• shipping 3 bucks

[elder thistle]

nice

[livid ruin]

btw, did shp9600's have qc issues?

there are some massive variances in between some fr charts from different reviewers

or is it just their testing rigs measuring poor

[warm scarab]

but that's not analog

[silver elm]

what is not analog about spinning cassettes 😭
I had to use em to take this DRM'd super boomer 2004 quad audio file, I recorded that to tape between both decks playing the boomer file on my PC in real time. Recorded at the same time to either deck, front lr recording to one, rear lr to the other. Used two NOS 1993 TDK D tapes as they both had the most similiar performance and lowest shared noise floor between both decks
I then redigitized both tapes into the PC using Audacity and hand mixed them back together so I now have a non DRM'd modern quadrophonic audio file I can easily play back on any compatible players

[warm scarab]

its as analog as using spotify to listen

casettes are a digital form of storage

by this logic spotify is also analog because you store the audio in memory sticks

[lean grove]

They're not digital

They're analog

[silver elm]

this dudes dumb asf i dont even know whadda say

[lean grove]

Tape is analog

[unique wind]

kek

[warm scarab]

you read them

[lean grove]

We taught him incorrectly as a joke

[warm scarab]

and make them into analog

[silver elm]

Unless he thinks I'm saying the final product was analog?

[lean grove]

You read a vinyl record and turn it into analog

(it was always analog)

[silver elm]

It is not, the final product is a digital flac

It just briefly went to an analog format to aid in yeilding a more tangable file

[warm scarab]

in contrary the final product can't be not analog

it would be beeps

[unique wind]

just accept you were wrong bro

[lean grove]

I don't even know what hes saying

[silver elm]

I can say this, I was diagnosed with the asshole burger thing in 5th grade, this mans autistic asf over here

[warm scarab]

ok after research I discovered there are analog tapes

we only had digital tapes my bad

[unique wind]

hes also turkish so youll have to be lenient

[lean grove]

The tapes gave it away but I'm happy you found something that makes you happy.

[silver elm]

oh honestly i figured he was trollin' and I was just bantering back now I feel bad if there was a language barrier or some shit oops lmao

[lean grove]

Klause is Turkish

[warm scarab]

yeah its a language barrier bro

ong

[silver elm]

okay im skeptical

[lean grove]

He only knows English from anime subtitles

[silver elm]

im watchin this dude

[unique wind]

klaus is an audio noob

[silver elm]

freakin god damn rabble rousers in chat 🙄

[unique wind]

no he is actually turkish and acoustic

he just speaks pretty good english because hes chronically online

[silver elm]

sounds like a rabble rouser to me

[warm scarab]

you dont know either of these

[unique wind]

ive seen your room

[warm scarab]

you've seen the cat graveyard

it could be you in there next

[white gate]

Casettes are analog

[warm scarab]

yea we only had digital tapes

I didn't know analog ones existed

[white gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7PYX0ohST4

[silver elm]

Anyhow these sound beautiful and I've got the finished copy, so I'll share one more track. This is a very rare nearly unobtainable album from the late 60s that personally, I don't see an issue with sharing, but not gonna put em all here. If ya want this quad album, DM me. I'll attempt putting it on the internet archive soon as I believe it is a historical piece of music and I have the most convenient modern version of it at this point

If you're set up for quadrophonic audio, enjoy

PS if you do listen with Stereo, this won't sound right. This was not designed for Stereo.

This is compatible with 5.1 setups

PSS if you find this on YouTube and say "it's not rare, it's on youtube" that one is this same ancient boomer source, undownloadable, and ironically, youtube only supports stereo playback. It's unusable

[unique wind]

[silver elm]

This original file, the only copy of it I could find online hidden away, I can't even find this to buy. The file was dated sometime in 2004. If you're a hifi purist and you're scoffing at the 16k cut off and blaming putting it to tape, this was not the fault of the decks. The "OP" must have used a low quality of the time audio codec. The originl source content I had at hand was limited to 16k with a roll off a tad over. There is nothing I can do about this until I find a copy of this quad DVD-A release to get a more truly modern hi res clean quad audio file that is easily playable on PC. If I ever find it, I will be revisiting this.
The DVD-A disk should contain a freq response up to 22k which my deck can do, well, the one I used for front lr. The deck I used for the rear does have a hard 16k cutoff on type i tape with no nr (sorry for autist rambling)

tldlr, there was no loss putting this to tape

[unique wind]

you’re good bossman

[broken smelt]

Cool

[tepid atlas]

Quick Question. I currently have a PreSonus Studio 24c and I use a pair of DT770 Pros and a rode podmic. I am moving out this weekend and dont really have the space for the boom arm and mic. I want to switch to a modmic that I can attach to my dt770, however the wireless option is $140 which im not willing to spend. They have a 3.5mm audio jack option for the microphone, and my interface allows for 1/4 inch cables to plug into the center of the xlr jacks. My question is if I purchase a 3.5mm to 1/4in adapter and connect the modmic to my xlr jack, will it work as I expect, or am I missing something?

https://antlionaudio.com/products/modmic-uni-renewed
^modmic

I guess I want to make sure the power delivery will work correctly

Also if that does work I guess I would need to buy a 3.5mm to 1/4 adapter. Any recomendations, or does it not really matter?

[vast quarry]

Small question, how do i know/test the upper tolerance limit of my flat in terms of volume and bass level for my speakers? I feel like im not getting my value out of my current setup.

i already got some basic soundproofing on the base of my door for my flatmates. I might be able to hit up a friend that specializes in setting up concert equipment to measure the sound level outside my room but is that really neccesary?

I do not plan on buying/using any form of noise to cancel out the sound. My setup is pretty humble already, and id imagine that to be overkill

[warm scarab]

what does upper tolerance limit mean

[slim mason]

probably just the amount of noise he can make before the neighbors murder him

[last falcon]

Can the xDuoo Link 2 Bal Max serve the Beyerdynamic DT 700 Pro X?

[molten lotus]

I bought kbear ks2’s smart for the price?

[gentle quiver]

is the Klipsch R-100SW a good upgrade from the edifier t5

[gentle quiver]

also will i need to get a amplifier later on when i get higher wattage speakers/subs

[lean grove]

No. This should be your next goal. https://rslspeakers.com/pages/speedwoofer-10e

[gentle quiver]

damn that does look realllly good thanks

first i definetly need to upgrade my r33bts tho since if i turn the bass up fully on my t5 you can barely actually hear any words in songs

[steel escarp]

man idk anymore

dac burn in might be real

I left the r2r dac on for 30 hours and its just better than fresh out of the factory

[molten lotus]

Nah but I got 2 iems one Is a zst x and the other a kbear ks2 which one should I give to my gf and which one should I keep for myself

[haughty girder]

I had the exact same one like 10 years ago sitting in a corner, you have to either take the thing apart or you just shred it with cutters

[haughty girder]

from an honest audiophile perspective, they're both kinda ass

both are V shaped to hell and back

neither are detailed

just keep whichever you like listening to more or smth

but at that price I would've recommended something like the Salnotes Zero over those

[tepid flare]

Had them for 2 and a half years.

[haughty girder]

that's not a lot actually

only 47 cycles on the battery

an average of 1.6 hours a day for two and a half years

[broken smelt]

You dont have to take it apart, theres these clips that you can take of and peel the thing off, i didnt take the grille off

[haughty girder]

Man I don't remember I had so many of these things

Some of them you didn't even need to do anything

just pull them off

I just remembered this one being sandwiched between the top and bottom pieces

The touchpads I also distinctly remember cause they were always so bright if I wanted to use it at night (can't feel for button location)

the bar right under the screen light up blue and blinds you

[lean grove]

R2R DACs are specifically sensitive to temp. The temp will change the resistor values and therefore the precision

So it might have just reached equilibrium

[cosmic wraith]

dt2500 CAMBRIDGE SoundWORKS are they driver?

[steel escarp]

With hqplayer I prefer the cyan 2, but without the zen dac sig v2 @lean grove

[steel escarp]

Honestly kind of not what I expected

R2R has 0 latency, except when using upsampling you get massive delays

Kinda defeats the purpose

All so you don't have to have feedback loops in your delta sigma dac

I can see the appeal of r2r when working with native dsd as audio producer and low latency is critical

[dawn ice]

Good r2r should also sound nice in general, its a more natural sound, as a lot of people have put it

But a lot of r2r implementations are crap

Yggy is my favorite r2r so far

[mortal pelican]

Any good, cheap soundbars? I'm looking at the Hisense HS2100 2.1ch atm. Its to pair with a TCL 50" 4K in my bedroom. The same one that LTT featured a while ago, lol. The why tf is everyone buying this TV.

[steel escarp]

good nos r2r requires oversampling

I learnt that yesterday

44.1kHz sample rate audio will literally have treble roll off

[dawn ice]

Good Non Over Sampling requires oversampling? 🐟

[steel escarp]

yes

[dawn ice]

Its no longer nos then, tho, or i dont get what you mean

[steel escarp]

you oversample via your computer

[dawn ice]

Aah, i see

[steel escarp]

the dac itself does not oversample

[dawn ice]

Yah, i cant say ive ever experimented with it honestly

But it could be worth a try

[steel escarp]

you get control over the filters via hqplayer

[dawn ice]

Im sure i can do the same over foobar

That said, with arya, i dont mind some treble roll off haha

[steel escarp]

honestly all this to avoid so called delta sigma dacs using feedback loops for upsampling

[steel escarp]

you also get ultrasonic noise higher up in the spectrum

[dawn ice]

I see

[steel escarp]

if you were to use a nos r2r with 44.1k

[dawn ice]

Well, ill try it out and see if i notice a difference with yggy

[steel escarp]

and WASAPI

[dawn ice]

I curreny run locked sample rate since i alsp got das703 in the stack and it only accepts a couple rates

Yah i think i got it locked on 44k

[steel escarp]

windows can do oversampling but its not as good as hqplayer, the filters are not optimal and neither is the dither

[dawn ice]

Nah i run asio mode so wont be doing much through windows

[steel escarp]

I can literally hear the treble going darker when turning on exclusive mode to play at 44.1k opposed to letting windows upsample to 176.4k

[dawn ice]

It coukd also be that windows mixed boosts the treble

[steel escarp]

no

[dawn ice]

Do you have a way of oversampling with asio?

[steel escarp]

you can set a virtual audio cable as output

and then use hqplayer to take that as input

then set the output to your asio driver via hqplayer

[dawn ice]

I see

Pretty neat

[steel escarp]

its a bit finicky tho, within hqplayer you have to set the sample rate of your input, it can't do it dynamically if you use virtual audio cable

[dawn ice]

Ill try oversampling next time im using headphones

Mhm, sounds a little hastly

[steel escarp]

hqplayer is a bitch to install

and configure

[dawn ice]

But is what it is, if you want that parametric eq

Lol, same with foobar, but bateman does everything for me lmao

So i basically dont have to put in any effort to have a very well configured player xD

Tho, i rarely use headphones theese days, i pretty much switched to porta-fi for the time being

Since im significantly more active now

Exploring porta-fi is fun tho, hobby feels fresh again since there is so much to explore at reasonable price points

[sleek lily]

Is that an r2r?

Oh, it's a vintage DAC amp

Nice

[dawn ice]

Sony 703es is the vintage one. And r2r one is schiit yggdrasil :p

[sleek lily]

How do they compare?

Thing is massive

Bigger than yggdrasil

That's kinda crazy

The little bear and topping seem almost out of place in that setup lol

[dawn ice]

D10 is my transport since 703 only takes an analog signal. Lpl yah, its also 2x as heavy as yggy, around 20kg

Yggy sounds a little more natural, a bit thicker and warmer, it adds a little bit of bass, has a touch of treble rolloff and smoothing well having a larger and more natural stage with more depth

703 is faster and more energetic sounding, a bit more detailed, well still retaining a very smooth treble presentation. Think it also has a touch of sub bass boost

Better imaging as well but worse stage depth

703 also has better separation

I basically switch between them on the fly based on the song

[wooden jay]

Hey, generally do buds sound better or proper on ear headphones?

[steel escarp]

you should be able to switch NOS mode off via the yggdrasil

[dawn ice]

Yup ill give it a go

[warm scarab]

There is an entire user manual

Read it

[steel escarp]

I used chatgpt and goldensound's tutorial to get started

I will at some point read the manual

Ngl, only found out there was a pdf with the manual in the same place hqplayer is installed at only after quite a bit of messing around

[willow brook]

My promedia 2.1 system arrived today!

[unique wind]

[tough copper]

Hii, I got my Logitech G Pro X 2 Lightspeed yesterday but I get a pretty big audio delay using the 3.5mm jack cable (around 86ms) while getting somewhat expected 38ms when using dongle wireless connection. My drivers are updated and I even tried lowering hz quality but it's just so bad. My pc is high-end so I don't think it's a hardware issue. Any ideas on how to fix it?

[chrome island]

Probably doing some kind of processing on the headset itself

Honestly I wouldn't use Logitech headsets as they fall quite far behind something like Cloud 2/3

[tough copper]

This is supposed to be a high quality gaming headset with basically no latency so I find this pretty weird tbh

[chrome island]

ehh, I wouldn't call it high quality, that's a stretch in any meaning of the word

[tough copper]

So my best option is to look for alternatives like these?

[chrome island]

Yeah, Cloud 2 or Cloud 3 would be your best options if you want a headset, if you want wireless then go with wireless models of Clouds

Cheaper than those, you can get Redragon H510 and wireless, but only if it's actually cheaper than the Clouds

[tough copper]

Will check em out tyty!

[weary knoll]

Theoretically an all-analogue headset should have 0 latency

So if there's an analog connection on the headset to your PC then yeah, the interface in the headset is doing something to introduce latency

Likely a poor ADA, as a pass-through to the drivers shouldn't add any appreciable latency

[warm scarab]

What he said as far as wired goes, audeze maxwell for wireless

[tough copper]

Those were a big option, ended up not getting them because I thought I would get similar results without spending 400 bucks

Ended up badly lol

[warm scarab]

What is the issue if you have no delay with the wireless of g pro though

also maxwells should be 300

[tough copper]

I also have delay with wireless connection

[weary knoll]

You will

You cannot have 0 latency BT or wireless

Its quite impossible

[tough copper]

Not outside US apparently, it adds like 90+€ when trying to buy it from Spain

[warm scarab]

odd to have notable amounts of audio latency

[weary knoll]

Likely a USB issue then

[warm scarab]

have you tried other headphones

[tough copper]

Yea that's why I went for ones that had cable connection too but idk it's just so bad

[warm scarab]

normally wired shouldn't particularly have a notably lower latency than wireless

[weary knoll]

That sounds like your computer and not the hesdphones

[weary knoll]

Wired should be far 'faster'

[tough copper]

I tried my old Tronsmart 30$ headphones which had USB connection only and had around 60ms too

[warm scarab]

depends

[weary knoll]

Unless its realtek... Then its a crapahoot

[tough copper]

I tried all sorts of software but I can't make any of these work

[warm scarab]

yeah sounds like a headphone thing, odd

[weary knoll]

Logitech, right?

Logitech isn't exactly... Quality anymore

[unique wind]

headphones that use proprietary 2.4GHz usb receivers usually don’t have meaningfully higher latency than just using a cable

[warm scarab]

what michael said

[tough copper]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[weary knoll]

It is possible you got a bad set

[tough copper]

Idk what to think anymore lol like

[weary knoll]

I'd say return them and get something else

[warm scarab]

try running them on another pc

or phone

see how it goes

[weary knoll]

I would also assume you're using Windows?

[warm scarab]

Idk if logi has drivers for linux

[tough copper]

Yea I'll try that and all I can before returning them

[weary knoll]

They dont, but it should be class-compliant. I used logitech on linux with no issue until I moved to Alsa

[tough copper]

Yup

Welp I'll take a deeper look, thank you all for the help :)

[hollow vigil]

hi
i have this two speaker
first one connects to my phone with aux cable and uses these wires to deliver sounds to speaker
second one also connect to my phone with 1-2 audio cable
i wanna know is there a way to link these two speaker

[steel escarp]

Both look like active speakers

[hollow vigil]

i want link them? is there a way?

[stone quartz]

Are ATC monitors good?

[somber frigate]

hi im trying to look for a mixer that will combined my pc audio and mic with my google tv on my monitor my monitor does have a 3.5 out.
i would like some sliders to to be able to adjust the volume of apps on my pc.
i saw the razer mixer but that's kind of over priced i feel. i don't have a fancy mic.
my head set is a Drop + EPOS PC38X

[warm scarab]

any of the cheapest 3 channel behringer mixers should work

also why are you looking at razer products for this lmao

its not even a real mixer only has like 1 digital input and 1 analog input

[warm scarab]

combining your pc and google tv's output to your headphones is an analog mixer task

individual app volume control is a digital mixer task

you should get a behringer x touch mini and use it with midi-mixer for app volume control

[warm scarab]

and do this for your analog mixing tasks

[steel escarp]

okay ima be real here, I thought the holo cyan 2 was mid, but switching back to the ifi zen dac signature v2 I wonder what the heck I have been listening to

zen dac sig v2 sounds soft af and artificial compared to holo cyan 2

[haughty girder]

if it's apps, grab a midi controller with faders and map it to voicemeeter

[steel escarp]

when using either dac in isolation without directly comparing them back to back I wouldn't notice probably

same holds true for most audio source gear

[haughty girder]

most source gear past like, 100 bucks

less than 100 you still find some sketchy stuff that sounds straight up broken

[unique wind]

you wouldnt be able to distinguish dacs in a controlled volume matched double blind test

unless that dac measured really horribly for whatever reason

which would be very embarrassing in 2024

[steel escarp]

it depends

true nos r2r vs delta sigma playing 44.1k you can easily differentiate

actual change in frequency response

[haughty girder]

Most*

[steel escarp]

wouldn't be surprised if most cheap dacs sound the same

[lean grove]

The nature of NOS R2R makes me think that it might be easier to tell the difference between it and other DACs.

[unique wind]

if there's a measured significant alteration to the frequency response then it's a poorly designed dac

whether intentional or not

[lean grove]

Not to mention the fact that filters can be audible under the right circumstances

[lean grove]

It's not frequency response it's time domain

[unique wind]

ive yet to see this proven in a double blind controlled test

[steel escarp]

no there is an actual difference in frequency response with true nos r2r dacs

I discoverd this today

that is where the whole "r2r dacs are warmer" gospel comes from

the red line

in nos mode

[unique wind]

you must escape sourcememe

just buy one objectively good stack and stop wasting money

[steel escarp]

vs my ifi dac which uses filters and dithering

[unique wind]

buy a70 pro & d70 pro and then never think about source gear ever again because you can run anything

[haughty girder]

Implementation > How outdated the tech is
If it sounds good to you then it's fine, measurebaiting doesn't prove anything

[lean grove]

Michael is malding watching grey throw away all this money.

[steel escarp]

its predetermined for any nos dac how much attentuated treble you get based on the sample rate you are playing

[lean grove]

I, an intellectual, am watching with glee as grey bankrupts himself

[unique wind]

[steel escarp]

In a NOS DAC, the original digital signal is converted directly to analog without any upsampling or oversampling. This means that the output frequency response is directly tied to the Nyquist frequency of the input sample rate (in this case, 44.1 kHz). Without digital filtering, the high-frequency components near the Nyquist limit can be attenuated, resulting in a roll-off in the treble region. This characteristic is more pronounced at standard CD quality (44.1 kHz) due to the lower sampling rate compared to higher resolution formats.

[lean grove]

Yeah I noticed this with my NOS mode on my vmv d1se

The total fr gets bumped by 2.5db and the upper treble tanks

[steel escarp]

I set windows to just upsample to 352.8k

[lean grove]

Any downsides to up sampling on the R2R?

[steel escarp]

via windows you don't have control over the filters used

hqplayer is a bit tedious to set up and has some delay

but you can basically make it sound like any DAC you want if you use HQPlayer

its just not viable for anything but music listening

and it uses like 20% of cpu if you choose a filter with a million taps, tho I have an old 9th gen intel i5

[warm scarab]

just read the manual

[steel escarp]

I read it

[warm scarab]

what is tedious

give it max buffer time

[steel escarp]

virtual audio cable

[warm scarab]

throw in pcm filters and sampling rate

[warm scarab]

that makes vac confusing not hqplayer

thats not a mandatory part of hqplayer

[steel escarp]

also the bit dept is kinda fucked via vac

[steel escarp]

it is if you don't have a streamer

[warm scarab]

eh who cares about bit depth

[warm scarab]

the only realistic time you want to make use of hqplayer is when you are doing critical listening

[steel escarp]

audio gets converted from 16 to 32 back to 20 (around 17 is likely the max your dac effectively does)

[warm scarab]

just set your shit to exclusive mode and you are alright

[steel escarp]

exclusive mode to vac?

[warm scarab]

no need to route your entire desktop audio through the thing

[warm scarab]

no exclusive mode output directly to your dac

[steel escarp]

why would I do that with a true nos dac

when playing 44.1k audio

I'd rather let windows resample

[warm scarab]

I don't follow

[steel escarp]

you get rolloff

if you don't resample

due to how nos dacs work

[warm scarab]

so you bought a dac with roll off

only to bypass pcm filters to not have it roll off?

[steel escarp]

read this

[steel escarp]

pretty much

sounds inconvenient, right?

[warm scarab]

ok but this isn't related to vac

[steel escarp]

I didn't know much about dacs when buying it

[warm scarab]

hqplayer does the upsampling not vac

vac is just for routing bs

[steel escarp]

yeah

[warm scarab]

ok so after all its literally what I said

initially

[steel escarp]

what did you say initially

[warm scarab]

:)

vac not mandatory

[steel escarp]

vac not mandatory unless you want to use hqplayer

if you plan on using hqplayer, a true nos dac is basically your best friend

[warm scarab]

you can use hqplayer without vac

[steel escarp]

if you have a streamer

[warm scarab]

no

[steel escarp]

huh?

[warm scarab]

you don't need a streamer

there are a billion plugins to output audio from players to hqplayer

[steel escarp]

you mean for local files?

[warm scarab]

yes

what are you using for streaming man

[steel escarp]

I use Tidal

[warm scarab]

get roon

[steel escarp]

I am alergic to roon

I have a nuc I could use as roon server tbh

but heck that

if I wanted that I would have gotten a gustard r26 instead

[warm scarab]

ok

on an unrelated note

grey do you have any raspberry type of thing recommendations for a sync server

[steel escarp]

what is a sync server

[warm scarab]

something that syncs files across devices

and hosts it

I am asking you because you sound like you may know the market for these small computer things

[steel escarp]

why would you go to the trouble to store a copy of a file on several devices and keep them in sync

unless you need them offline

[warm scarab]

books

notes

manga

[steel escarp]

alright

[warm scarab]

not having to pay google money to use drive?

[steel escarp]

I have an intel nuc with a n100 processor

[warm scarab]

idk there are a lot of reasons

[steel escarp]

it cost me like 300

has 16gb ram

1tb ssd

[warm scarab]

bro im bringing up buying a raspberry

man is recommending me a literal desktop

[steel escarp]

only uses 15 watt idle, the intel n100 is a 12th gen alder late cpu optimised for low power usage

you can install whatever you want on a mini nuc

[warm scarab]

its meant to run like

3 scripts and have storage

[warm scarab]

im not going to throw 300 at this shit

[steel escarp]

I was using this as torrenting stack

I don't know anything about raspberry pies, sorry

[warm scarab]

use a debrid service instead for that

but i mean you have it so

[steel escarp]

I stopped the whole torrenting stack

[warm scarab]

ig you can make use of it that way

[steel escarp]

now its just an smb file server

[warm scarab]

use it as a minecraft server

[steel escarp]

apparently I can install mpv on all my android devices and they support the anime I torrent onto it

[warm scarab]

also bastard you were criticizing me on using this as a sync server

[steel escarp]

no more nightmare metadata from plex

[warm scarab]

meanwhile you use it as a server yourself

[steel escarp]

xD

wait actually I forgot I whiped it and installed ubuntu 24.04

to use as low heat outputting machine during the summer

the heck am I doing on my gaming desktop right now, its hot af in my room

[warm scarab]

you can throw this much money on source memes but cant buy an a/c?

[steel escarp]

my mom won't let me install an ac

[warm scarab]

bruh

[steel escarp]

believe me I want one

[warm scarab]

why wont your mother let you install an ac

[steel escarp]

she thinks the air conditioning unit will make noise and she will hear it from her room

when trying to sleep

[warm scarab]

may not entirely be wrong

offer to buy one for her too

[steel escarp]

she has one for herself

😭

[warm scarab]

lmao

meanwhile my mom and dad offered to buy me an ac and i said no

[steel escarp]

im already dead

in all the messing around with dacs I discovered the rca input on my violectric v222 is objectively worse than the xlr input

meaning the Chord Qutest I had a while back was not able to perform to the max and was still pretty much the same as my zen dac sig v2

[warm scarab]

"I discovered the rca input on my violectric v222 is objectively worse than the rca input"

[steel escarp]

wait shit, my brain

its 1am

fixed

[frosty vector]

I was wondering if I could turn my non Bluetooth speakers into Bluetooth. I have the edifier r1280t and currently have them connect to my pc by a 3mm jack and I was wondering if there is a amp/sound thing to keep the connection to my pc while having connectivity to my phone through Bluetooth any recommended or suggestions would be much appreciated.

[warm scarab]

ifi blue but its overpriced

pair it with an audio switch to swap between your pc and ifi blue

or use a mixer to output both

[haughty girder]

HiBy W3ii

Oh wait yea any bluetooth receiver will do then just use a mixer

wait

[warm scarab]

yea, if you don't care much about quality you can use any bt receiver you find

[haughty girder]

doesn't R1280t have two sets of inputs

like... any other speaker?

they're both wired to the amp the same

if you have inputs to both of them they just play both

[warm scarab]

i dont think they do

[haughty girder]

okay yea it has two sets of RCA

Just plug one set into pc

the other set into a bluetooth receiver

call it a day

[warm scarab]

thought it was a passthrough 💀

[haughty girder]

they input at the same level and the speaker doesn't switch between them

[haughty girder]

Nah

normally if you wanted a sub, you'd go to the sub first

it's just two sets of inputs

[frosty vector]

Right so get a Bluetooth receiver also am planing to get an electric guitar is there any possibility to connect that to my speakers ?

[warm scarab]

mixer time

[frosty vector]

What would you recommend that’s like a good budget or something that’s a decent amount for a mixer with Bluetooth and a jack that big ?

[warm scarab]

every mixer should use 6.3 jacks

its more difficult to find one that doesn't than one does

I don't know about the bt part

[frosty vector]

Right 💀

[warm scarab]

if you have an electro guitar amplifier already you can just connect the output of that into the mixer

this way you can cheap out on the mixer since you will only be relying on it for mixing and not for amplifying the guitar

but there is the concern of latency since you are introducing another device inbetween the output and the instrument

[frosty vector]

Right got you

Any that u would recommend?

Sub 100 ?

[warm scarab]

no I don't know this market

id probably buy the bt thingy nexgen recommended and a cheap behringer mixer

[frosty vector]

Right mb then

[frosty vector]

Ok 👌

[warm scarab]

don't count on this advice though like I said I don't know the mixer market

try asking in podcastage discord

[frosty vector]

Never could understand audio Thank you for the help

[frosty vector]

Ok I try that

Thanks again

[warm scarab]

👍

[haughty girder]

I know Native Instruments Komplete Audio 1 uses RCA and USB B

[haughty girder]

M track solo, Native Instruments Komplete Audio 1

I don't think there's been anything that uses RCA in the past few years

[willow brook]

After doing some testing, yeah, the klipsch promedia 2.1 thx is leagues better than the creative pebble 2.1 I was using before

[elder thistle]

real speakers vs budget single driver pc speakers

[visual bone]

Guys can anyone tell me whoch one to buy? Galaxy buds fe vs realme air 5 pro

[steel escarp]

I just plugged my Holo Cyan 2 dac into my IFI Zen CAN

and honestly

what even is the point of an expensive amp

I never heard this amp sound so good before

[haughty girder]

buds fe

it's actually tuned

and the clear preset makes it a "neutral" frequency response

[visual bone]

I have heard mixed reviews some say theyre OK for the price and some that they suck in terms of sound

[steel escarp]

zen can sounds cleaner than ferrum oor 💀

[haughty girder]

show me a review that say they suck in terms of sound

[visual bone]

I've asked in some communities they said that it's better to grab Freebuds 5i

[warm scarab]

listen to them then

they surely know something we don't know

[haughty girder]

what communities?

[visual bone]

Xkom, reddit

[haughty girder]

clear preset is actually goated though (orange)

[haughty girder]

then go get the freebuds

[haughty girder]

if you're rich: sound treatment
if you're not rich: fill the room with stuff like pillows, books, just stuff in general

[steel escarp]

do you need it for speakers?

do you have a large diaphragm condenser microphone or a dynamic microphone?

oh I wouldn't invest too crazy in that case

a dynamic mic won't pic up all that much from your room

[hollow robin]

Does anyone make a sutainable headphones? I mean like every part is sold as parts, so you can repair any thing that breaks on the headset?

[lean grove]

There are a handful of open source headphones that are 3d printable and use off the shelf components.

https://capraaudio.com/product/ouroboros-3d-printed-audiophile-closed-back-headphones/

[ebon wharf]

I'm not an audio tech but my moms a drummer and we made a room very studio like by raising the floor by 2 inches stuffing it with acoustic isolation and covering the walls and ceilings with absorber panels and it sounds pretty good

What are you trying to do

Well that's mostly for the drums I don't think that's necessary for overall acoustics

You could just get one of those boxes for voice overs but then you can't really use the computers

I think for vocals those spiky panels I see almost all the youtubers do it but don't take my word for that

Yeah could be idk

How bad is the echo in your room because certain mic pickup paterns could just remove the work completely

[lean grove]

They work but they're pretty minor

@floral vector get some 1-4" thick acoustic panels made from rock wool and hang them up strategically in your primary reflection points.

You will probably be able to get good results with 4-6

[ebon wharf]

https://youtu.be/h_oIgdWjqmE?si=Z4KHH8DtvA6vYMvl

[lean grove]

The frequencies they absorb and how much they absorb. Those little foam panels you see on YouTubers walls won't do anything for bass. I'd hazard a guess that they have substantial any affect on anything below 1000hz. So pretty much only treble.

But a proper acoustic panel that's actually thick and dense will help much much better almost down to some bass frequencies.

So an acoustic curtain will help some. But it won't be as good as something with actual permeable mass and thickness

[ebon wharf]

Bass doesn't really matter for vocals tho

[lean grove]

Not really no. But I'm saying that thickness is important and the thicker the better.

Obviously there's some constraints in terms of price

https://youtu.be/fqodnHxRJ7c

This video has some decent data in terms of what materials work

[steel escarp]

I think nos dacs are useless if you don't plan on using hqplayer

I cannot get the lantency to be low enough to be usable in any scenario for gaming with hqplayer

I would appreciate a nos mode if the dac also had an os mode

[lean grove]

Kinda like the bifrost?

[warm scarab]

as long as the part is sold

or 3d printable

but most headsets use chinese oems so it shouldn't be an issue

[steel escarp]

yeah

also holy shit apparently ifi their GTO filter is very close to NOS

it has a very low taps reconstruction filter

more taps add reverb to the sound giving the perception everything is larger

also exclusive mode objectively improves the sound if windows would otherwise have to change the bit depth

it will reconstruct the signal without dithering resulting in quantization errors which messes up the transient response

[frosty vector]

Right sorry for asking again but Ii was wondering if I could turn my non Bluetooth speakers into Bluetooth. I have the edifier r1280t and currently have them connect to my pc by a 3mm jack and I was wondering if there is a mixer to keep the connection to my pc while having connectivity to my phone through Bluetooth. Potentially looking into getting a electric guitar any recommended or suggestions would be much appreciated.

[steel escarp]

how is the electric guitar related to bluetooth?

do the headphones have to be high quality or the mic

[frosty vector]

If there is a mixer that supports connecting ur phone?

[steel escarp]

I dont know about any below 200 euros

[frosty vector]

So would it just be better to get a bt receiver and get a mixer sub 100?

[steel escarp]

why do you need a mixer tho, don't those speakers already have 2 sets of rca inputs

just connect something like this to the speakers

and the other 2 rca in the back of the speaker to your pc

[warm scarab]

guitar

• bt receiver + pc

unless the bt adapter you sent doesnt have an audio input

[lean grove]

What DACs have that filter?

[steel escarp]

their isid pro dac and zen sig, dont know if more have it

but everything sounds rather narrow in terms of sound stage

[ebon summit]

Okay I need help, I cant decide what In Ears to buy I want them for gaming and wireless any recommendations?

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/eOXCEsTyv7s

[lean grove]

@ebon summit

[ebon summit]

is it In ears

or overears

[lean grove]

the video contains in-ear options

[ebon summit]

Only wired

[lean grove]

oh.

there arent really any wireless gaming in-ears

they all use bluetooth and bluetooth has way too much latency to be used with gaming

[ebon summit]

is it really that bad

[lean grove]

yes.

on windows its like, at least 100 ms of delay

[ebon summit]

Cause I had wireless overears

and I didnt had any problems with latency

[lean grove]

did they use a wireless usb receiver or did they use bluetooth

[ebon summit]

bluetooth

[ebon summit]

I had the Senheiser 350 bt btw

[lean grove]

if you havent been bothered with the delay then you'll probably be fine

airpods pro are a good option

[ebon summit]

I wanna use them for my phone too I got a samsung 😭

[elder thistle]

lipstick

[somber frigate]

when i close sound settings the line in stops ?

how do i fix it ?

[somber frigate]

lol i need to keep my sound settings open to hear the line in

[broken heath]

can i use a 2nd hdmi cable for my amplifier

so 1 hdmi cable to tv, 1 to amplifier for 7 channel audio?

[woeful horizon]

yo are there any good amps for 3 speakers in like the 50$ price range

im new to this stuff

[sleek lily]

Why do you have 3 speakers?

[woeful horizon]

2 side and 1 center

i got them from some shop for like 5 bucks

[sleek lily]

You probably don't need the center channel

But also what speakers are they

Cause not all speakers are the same to power

[woeful horizon]

JBL

they kinda small

[sleek lily]

What JBL speakers though

[woeful horizon]

idk

[sleek lily]

Not all JBL speakers are the same to power

Could you send an image of them

[woeful horizon]

ill try to find the model online

https://www.ebay.com/itm/395516010180?itmprp=cksum%3A3955160101801299591d35934d969d3720240f38a650|enc%3AAQAJAAABYLC2%252Ba5TgOFYgIvLQSBIYkURSzHvc7cCccVTU14STgixqt2LHVH3DQgpuMCV11vSwIPgiyFOwqAlvyaCYV%252F3KC%252BV%252Bw2hITE7xTLMc%252FUAdPVM74mBrClyfys6h0qSntiKTtamp%252FwRG%252FuVgTYA%252FQ9W3Ox1vA0GraSb4JMRxeVcTuw%252FbvfsO7mDS6tzWet1HTCrTSKHhSzyDxfolQ5RaQ8tYAocB56C%252B%252FyfZ3Bo1Ds8kfLadC%252F68sPTwoMvmFA51AUJFRgpOPa%252FEAhafwMcni50QEtTBltr%252FehDpOXPzH%252B9givhFNMGyd%252BEdORTIpLj7HwJwkVdtDSLLQSibJGppmLA%252F1fBclY4aMsqQ8Qk2w1cStGIB8BTW1Jzo8DfL8%252Bm4OF0SgCKh7zSzPIdHFjlIkYdck%252F1GVVuvmAlxOQNAAOVg6nntF7EcgxXDCAYvGft3PV99aPil1Om4F11K2WCGG9W9sQ%253D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490&itmmeta=01J4XH8R47H3P0Z7K12NYKJFDQ

[woeful horizon]

i found them on ebay

[rugged vale]

Hey I got some brand new jbl store display headphones and I'd like to know if there worth keeping new or if I should use them. Can anyone help?

[woeful horizon]

@sleek lily

[lean grove]

Not really. Check goodwill, Craigslist or Facebook marketplace.

You're only gonna find crusty used stuff

[woeful horizon]

i mean if i work i work

it

[lean grove]

Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo, Polk, or Sony are the brands you want to look for

If you can find Harmon kardon jump on that

[woeful horizon]

ok

what do i do for speaker wire

[lean grove]

Amazon basics

[woeful horizon]

k thanks

like what size

[lean grove]

Doesn't really matter

Not anything higher than 20 gauge

[woeful horizon]

k

[runic wing]

hi! i asked my parents for wireless iem adapters, but he gave me his jbl live 300tws instead to clean and tune. my only problem is fit as i want to run in these, where do you reccomend i get replacement parts from ?

i got no answer in iem and jbl forums

and are other people are unanswered too

https://uk.jbl.com/spare-parts/?prefn1=isAvailabilityforLocale&prefn2=isRefurbished&prefv1=yes&prefv2=false&srule=price-low-to-high&sz=24 nevermind... 🤦

[wispy zephyr]

can someone give me the best mic under 100 euros for streaming and recording?

[lean grove]

Do you have an interface already

[wispy zephyr]

nope, i currently use my headset’s mic

[lean grove]

Get a Samson q2u or an ath2100x and use a boom arm.

Then learn how to use a noise gate, compressor, and set the gain properly in OBS

[wispy zephyr]

do i have to buy all that stuff separately?

[lean grove]

The mic and the boom arm are the only thing you'll need to buy

Obs is free

[wispy zephyr]

ohh i thought the noise gate and the compressor were things i needed to buy

do you have recommendations for a good boom arm?

[lean grove]

Nope. They're all gonna work. Cheap ones might be noisy if you move them too quickly. The springs will catch and make a drum sound for the mic. A high pass filter should help make it less annoying or a push to mute hotkey every time you plan on moving it will make it a non issue.

Cheap ones also have a really bad clamp that can leave dents in your desk.

Anything like this is gonna damage a desk.

So I have like a bit of sacrificial wood in between mine that takes the damage

[wispy zephyr]

ah i understand, so if possible i should avoid these?

[lean grove]

You'll have to spend more to do that

A chunk of wood, or an old sock, or a towel, or whatever is gonna make it less damaging

[wispy zephyr]

ah okay, makes sense, well ill have to look at prices myself

thank you for the recommendations, i’ll keep them in mind

[lean grove]

No problem.

[wispy zephyr]

didn’t you make a typo here? when i search ATH2100X only a mic called ATR2100X appears

or is it a different mic?

[lean grove]

Oops sorry yeah it's a. Typo

Ath is the headphone line

Atr is the mic

[wispy zephyr]

ah i see, thank you then

[steel escarp]

I literally put a block of wood in between the metal screw part and my desk

to not permanently fuck my desk

[uneven hollow]

would this be the right place to talk about audio software?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[supple robin]

try them and see

[lean grove]

an idea so good s omeone already said it

[lean grove]

☝️

[steel escarp]

Damn ur a genius

[haughty girder]

+1 for the atr2100x recommendation, love that mic.

[warm scarab]

I just have a metal sheet I cut between my boomarm and my desk

[sleek lily]

Decided to deep listen to all my restored vintage sennheisers today and rank them into very specific categories

Right is best left is worst per category

[warm scarab]

feel like an excel sheet would have worked better than 8 images

[stone quartz]

Does anyone know of a good 12/15 inch subwoofer enclosure design?

Something that can get as close to 20Hz as possible

[gloomy cave]

Just got my Galaxy Buds 3 Pro. Just want to give a warning.

They had been recalled already due to the eartips tearing.

Well, enthusiasm o
I was trying out the different tip and struggled to remove it, to the point where the rubber tip broke away from the small plastic rim. And then in the course of trying to remove the rim from the bud, I ended up accidentally breaking the speaker.

Thankfully, Sam did not throw much of a fuss about returning and replacing them But thought it would be wise to advise others around here. Be very careful when taking off those tips!

[livid ruin]

200 buck earbuds and such flaw

…

[gloomy cave]

They are going for this rimmed ear tip design so they don't have to have that kind of 'stick' going deep into your ear where traditional ear tips latch onto. The new ones could kind of be compared to how most ear cups work in large headphones. But naturally it's going to be more fragile in this form.

[vapid plover]

Loaded question but currently have Logitech Walmart speakers lol. Any small like that that won’t break the bank that sounds decent

[haughty girder]

eartips tearing isn't that uncommon, esp with galaxy buds I think using some sort of vinyl and silicone blend rather than just silicone eartips

[haughty girder]

creative pebbles plus, v3, x

[gray harness]

are earpods good enough or nah

[lean grove]

well you can get pretty damn good in-ear monitors for like $25 so like

if you have them and you like em sure

[warm scarab]

can you define earpod

are you miswriting airpod or referring to all bluetooth in ears

[lean grove]

klaus way to go to ruin the mystery

[warm scarab]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/335914318509899790/1204283236424093696/caption.gif

[haughty girder]

Earpods are lowkey comfy for sleep

[marsh kindle]

I am getting into audio mixing, and I need a cheap digital mixer. any tips?

[uneven mountain]

I just setup a very jank quad speaker setup. The pairs of speakers are on splitters for my logitech z333 subwoofer, and the sub under the bed is literally connected to the system via the left speakers speaker wires. None of the speakers are connected to the stands properly. The yamaha ones are ziptied and the saiyin ones are using one of the screws for the wall mount on each speaker. Plus this is a 2.1 stereo system, not proper quads because they are literally on splitters. The speakers are connected to the logitech z333 subwoofer, which is somehow powering everything. Additionally that sub is connected to an echo dot so I can connect my laptop to it wirelessly. It works is the running theme of this setup. What do yall think? Altogether it cost me around $200 not including the echo dot.

Ohh, and the ihome speakers are just propping up my sub cause they dont sound good.

And I needed something to prop up the sub a tiny bit.

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510681715484786710/1089591276594282607/Daddy-day-care-wtf.gif

[uneven mountain]

Is that good or bad?

[teal sparrow]

is it ok if i post a video about my sound setup?

[uneven mountain]

I think?

But dont quote me.

[teal sparrow]

video over 25 mb

[haughty girder]

yes but how much people will care or look is debateble...

[teal sparrow]

im just posting for fun becuase i have nothing to do

I made this amazing video with CapCut. Tap the link to try it out! https://www.capcut.com/t/ZmFbyuB1L/

[haughty girder]

uhm... how old are you exactly?

[teal sparrow]

13

[haughty girder]

that is crazy

you've had discord since you were 7

[teal sparrow]

why?

ummm it was my brothers

[haughty girder]

You sound very... young

[teal sparrow]

and he gave me this account

[haughty girder]

and for your safety people under 13 aren't supposed to be on discord

[teal sparrow]

my mom and dad sayed yes to discord sooo

[haughty girder]

that's good

[teal sparrow]

please dont report me ok

[livid ruin]

I will

[warm scarab]

report this kid

[dense ermine]

kids these days

when I was 13, my birthday was precisely january 1st 2005

more specifically, current year - 19

[vocal goblet]

What's better?
Open Back or Closed Back?

Both:

[stone quartz]

https://youtu.be/OdW8NtSMKDw?si=WGNc8oA23Lu8nM0A

cute little speakers

Some pretty insane excursion

[haughty girder]

Creative pebbles on steroids?

[autumn harbor]

Can I get some input? I'm looking for some better PC speakers for gaming,movies,work stuff. I found some local options and wanted y'all's suggestions.

I have FiiOs K5 pro currently

1: Micca rb42 with fosi V3

2: florance ai40

Something else I should look at?

[timber folio]

Hi guys, does anyone know where I can buy official ear foam replacement for Sennheiser HD6XX's and the outer metal grills of the headphone? Been rocking it for 10 years and it has accumulated a bit of rust(?) for some reason. Looking to breath new life to it

[verbal fog]

i got xb500s i can say theyre a little insane 9/10 purchase theyre cool :3

[warm scarab]

you can get earpads if you google them

as for the ear grills im not sure if you can, try e-mailing sennheiser customer support directly

if they wont give you any you should just use some rust cleaner spray or something

[elder thistle]

that's the 2nd time I've heard of hd6xx's rusting

the grill of an hd600 or 650 should work too

assumption*

[sleek lily]

Any other 6x0 grill will work but really if you don't care about look it doesn't even need the grill. Sennheiser occasionally has original pads in stock but it's rare. There is one on Amazon I know measures about the same I can link you

[ornate rapids]

Hello guys i wanna buy some new hifi headphones with a good dac below (doesnt mean it has to be as expensive as 800€ could also be 500€) 800€ these are my main music genres: https://upload.voltox.org/u/chrome_5pULYEW64e.png also i like good bass

[dawn ice]

hifiman edition xs for the cans, easiest rec if youre not trying to spend thousands

[ornate rapids]

whats with the dac?

[dawn ice]

for the amp, id go for cayin iha6, or, if you want to go lighter on the budget, schiit jot 2

and then for the dac, id get moondrop dawn dongle and get a 4.4 - rca cable

dac is the least important bit in the chain

amp is middle, and headphones are the most important

[ornate rapids]

mhm idk

i dont wanna bei the amp on their website

[dawn ice]

yah, get it used bro, you can savea good bit of money

[ornate rapids]

i would like to buy it on amazon or another service where i can return it usw..

[dawn ice]

most people buy used source gear

[ornate rapids]

why not

[dawn ice]

you save money, dont losse money when you eventually sell it, and in 90% of cases, it makes 0 difference since hifi gear is generally in perfect nick

since it literally just sits on the table, it doesnt get abused

[ornate rapids]

nah its because if it gets lost in the mail or sth

i cant get back my money

with amazon i can get back my money

[dawn ice]

i mean, thats an edge case

which is extremely unlikely

[ornate rapids]

yeah but it is possible

[dawn ice]

you can buy used on ebay

but then youll pay ebay tax

[ornate rapids]

a friend ordered a phone and it got lost or stolen in the mail

[dawn ice]

are you eu?

[ornate rapids]

ye

[dawn ice]

well, schiit is a us company so i dont know if they sell on the eu side

so might have to pay a premium to get it, in which case, its not rl worth it anymore

cayin is sold in eu but if you buy new, it wont fit your budget

[ornate rapids]

yeah ik

[dawn ice]

then again, if you pay with paypal, then youre fully covered

sonce paypal will always fuck over the seller

[ornate rapids]

yeah ok

[dawn ice]

good alternative used to be ifi zen can, but i havent really kept up with that price bracket lately

if you want something cheaper and new

[ornate rapids]

yeah thats definitely more affordable

[dawn ice]

and edition xs is the no brainer rec for cans

thing is absolutely insane for the money

and its a generalist can so it works for pretty much all janras

[ornate rapids]

Hedphones : edition xs
AMP: iFi ZEN CAN
DAC: ?

[dawn ice]

id get dawn pro and use that as a dac

or can get zen dac

idk if its the best value tho

[ornate rapids]

is the zen dac also an amp?

[dawn ice]

that bit of market might of changed by now

yup

[ornate rapids]

damn

https://upload.voltox.org/u/chrome_iAQCjrFE8F.png

[dawn ice]

but the amp is fairly weak :p it wont be bad by any stretch, but its not as good as stand alone

yaah, paying so much for a dac doesnt really make sense for you

[ornate rapids]

yeah

[ornate rapids]

but is it enough?

[dawn ice]

i mean, it wont be bad

but youd definetly have a better experience with a better amp

like jot2 or iha6

[ornate rapids]

but they are way more expnesive lol

double the price

[dawn ice]

lol yup

[ornate rapids]

wait do does the edition xs includ an audio cable

[dawn ice]

yah they come with a cable

and you should be able to get them for under 300

there are some mad discounts going around on them

[ornate rapids]

:/ https://geizhals.at/hifiman-edition-xs-a2666991.html

where?

yeah ok https://www.hifi-studio.at/product/hifiman-edition-xs/

found an austrian retailer

so my setup would be:
Headphones: edition xs
DAC/AMP: iFi ZEN DAC V3

[dawn ice]

https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/edition-xs.html

cop it directly from hifiman

at least in the past, hifiman had eu warehouses and you didnt have to pay import tax

[ornate rapids]

damn that seems to be really cheap

[dawn ice]

indeed

and it unironically sounds better then some flagships lol

[dawn ice]

yap that would work

tho, idk if zen dac is still the main rec for said price point

lemme do a bit of digging

[ornate rapids]

ok thanks

https://upload.voltox.org/u/chrome_c29qLVH8Jt.png

uhhh

yeah the retailer would be cheaper

309€ with shipping

[dawn ice]

there are also discount codes on the hifiman page you can grab

or, usually

tbh, youre probably fine with zen dac

the nice thing with zen dac is that it gives you a pretty solid dac for when you decide to get a better amp

can still use the zen dac

and it doesnt sound bad on its own, so should be fine

[tender frost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfaJZD-V8-A

[tender frost]

What if I wanted to get a headphone like the lcd-2 but not heavy enough to snap my neck

[dawn ice]

tbh, r70's do sound similar to audeze sound

[haughty girder]

a bunch of these should do

[timber folio]

Sure. That will be helpful. I tried looking up online, but I can't seem to find a reputable store that sells the original ear foam. Lots of off brand though. But I heard that the originals are the best for listening experience

[sleek lily]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4KL1P88?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[timber folio]

Oh, but these aren't the original Sennheiser ones right?

[sleek lily]

No but they measure the same

[static swift]

I don't suppose anyone can recommend any closed back headphones for general use, I'll be doing a bit of everything with them but mainly gaming.

[livid ruin]

any recommendation for a cheap secondary dac/amp at around 30 bucks?

don't really need anything flashy just something cheap that works

[haughty girder]

Just grab any cheap dongle

CX31993 Pro, for example

if you want smth slightly nicer, anything with CS43131

7HZ 71, HiBy W3ii, etc.

oh sorry not W3ii that's a bt dacamp, but like Sonata HD iii

[livid ruin]

anything that's not a dongle?

[haughty girder]

What are you trying to plug in?

at like 30 bucks, you want more money on the circuitry and not the chassis

[livid ruin]

i'm going somewhere. i'd like to bring my he400se's

[haughty girder]

I assume unbalanced cable?

I think for travel a dongle would be best suited no? Something like HiBy W3ii (overbudget, though) can power those just fine on battery

[livid ruin]

small sized amp would be fine, just asking if there aren't better non dongle amps at that price range

I think I do have somewhere a cx31993 dongle but iirc it broke

it was adding in some weird noise when there was bass action going on

maybe the aliexpress seller was just selling sketchy ones

[haughty girder]

at 30 dollars you're not gonna find much

unfortunately

[livid ruin]

alr

[ebon summit]

Hey everyone ima need some recommendations for wireless in ears for gaming, cause I simply cant stand wired and over ears anymore

[tired crown]

Would you be willing to try wired in ears

There really is no option I can suggest for wireless in ear

[ebon summit]

I tried but I simply cant stand these cause of the super short cables

[ebon summit]

Im using the Apple wired ones right now the 20$ ones got them gifted by a friend

[tired crown]

You can get extensions

Just there are no options for wireless

It’s wireless headset or wired in ears

[ebon summit]

are airpods good or like in general the new samsung buds

cause idk if I put the cable wrong I put it into the front aux port cause idk if there even is one in the back of my pc

[tired crown]

Neither

[ebon summit]

well is there any good in ear for gaming then?

[tired crown]

Truthear zero reds

I love mine

I’ve tried a bunch of diffrent iems

[haughty girder]

Basically all wireless in ears will have a bunch of latency

not good for gaming

[candid cosmos]

Aptx ll is usable, but id still take a wire over anything wireless for even normal audio listening.

[elder thistle]

thats still 40ms iirc

[dawn ice]

wirless for a desktop setup is pure cope

[unique wind]

aptx adaptive pretty gud

[grizzled latch]

Probably not the highest end audio solution but got all of it at a pawn shop for £50

And is miles better than what I had b4

[pulsar geode]

Has anyone ever heard of under monitor soundbar? Saw one in a video but can anyone tell me how they compare to normal speakers ?

They look like this

[warm scarab]

they can be alright but it would cost several times more than a speaker equivalent in performance would

[lean grove]

Ideally for a speaker you want it to be pointed directly at your ear and away from any hard flat surfaces. So a speaker pointed at your stomach that's right next to a hard flat surface is sub-optimal.

[warm scarab]

you can get away with auto eq stuff soundbars do when you pay like 500$ for it but apart from that its going to be super meh

[haughty girder]

40ms in optimal scenarios, and you sacrifice a lot of quality to reach that

Heavy compression

[obsidian urchin]

Bluetooth's suckiness is all in the name of battery life. Wifi can easilly carry uncompressed audio with <10ms latency.

[haughty girder]

Battery life and bandwidth

Theoretically Bluetooth 5.x should be plenty of bandwidth to not need anywhere near as much compression, further lowering latency

we just don't have the codec for it yet....

[modest knot]

Anyone have recommendations for a sound bar? My budget is $150 - $200

[haughty girder]

Do you have space for a pair of speakers?

Used LSR305 beat out pretty much any soundbar...

[elder thistle]

real speakers in general

[modest knot]

unfortunately i do not, i only have room for a sound bar under the tv. Im not looking for anything crazy, i just want something that is better than my tv speakers.

[warm scarab]

shit technology

bluetoothcels gtfo

[obsidian urchin]

I tried moving a couple things over to AptX HD last year, if someone can't tell the difference between normal PCM and AptX they need their ears checked.

And AptX-LL is like for voice only, it's not even what I'd consider hi-fi.

[oblique nest]

Is the HD 6XX overrated? Is a built-in motherboard audio solution good enough for a normie using Spotify?

[obsidian urchin]

I thought the 6xx sounded good then I got a better bookshelf speaker setup and now I don't think they sound good anymore

lol

[oblique nest]

def can't do a speaker setup

got bedrooms on either side of my desk

[ebon summit]

Are the soundcore liberty 4 nc good? Cause I can buy them for about 55 Euros right now

[livid ruin]

anker headphones generally suck really bad.

only decent thing about them is the anc

even that’s kinda… e

[ebon summit]

Dawg is every headphone bad thats not a iem

[warm scarab]

no but iems generally dominate <100$

[livid ruin]

you can get he400se at €60

superlux hd681 and mod them, I personally like them but not for everyone

kph30i’s, they’re tad warm good fr expect for the sub bass and the 4khz dip, I personally don’t like them

[lean grove]

No. Yes.

[livid ruin]

maybe if you can’t get any of these steelseries arctis nova 1 but they’re very muddy, I’d not really get them, there are not many options at €55~

he400se and that’s about it, everything else is kinda/meh or bad.