audio-tech

[haughty girder]

Wait

2.4g is the one dropping out?

[ashen hatch]

https://www.amazon.com/Xvive-Microphone-Wireless-System-Dynamic/dp/B07TYSTDM3/ref=sr_1_32?crid=3SQFTE7K874OU&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RyGhjkOa9NKM3WLDjm4H4kTIAyCIXvEiMk22aRTzThsefBSu_2o7p1BzAA1c2QiQ-thBnPu6_NEJkz2RpqswNlE6GGz7V7WT5EUBgKaU3cydSvQwSgEGQfSxwu2wzLaQR6eu1OvpPtkPTm0_z-eU5exqRN79QjYXj3cPOymBZvskoyNnmu1n8SRTji7-31cByhIaSbo2Y2u3sL90NYSNnQqrQYcnZq4zK66gVyf9Mbp4_8j0qIx26mIH7d2mI67wwNrwz9AjzCWvUJS8E5qlg-riCtslV_MJJI_-v7-y7jM.6xGPi301Et-6x0ZspoyfQC3uXdjZdEWA1RnxebImjZc&dib_tag=se&keywords=wireless%2Bxlr%2Bthat%2Bprovides%2Bphantom%2Bpower&qid=1715368959&sprefix=%2Caps%2C1039&sr=8-32&th=1

[ashen hatch]

no uhf

[haughty girder]

Do you know what band you're on

Wait so

to clarify

[ashen hatch]

not currently

[haughty girder]

There was a UHF system in place that wasn't working right, 2.4g was brought in and basically completely cancelled UHF?

[ashen hatch]

yes

it worked wonders aswell

[haughty girder]

are the receivers in similar locations?

[ashen hatch]

uhf kept dropping out on every channel

[ashen hatch]

only one receiver atm

but yes

similar to the last one

[haughty girder]

Spread out the receivers

[ashen hatch]

we only have one reciever

[haughty girder]

wait

[ashen hatch]

its working fine

[haughty girder]

for both 2.4g and uhf?

[ashen hatch]

no

only one single 2.4g rx

[haughty girder]

yea

[ashen hatch]

no uhf receiver works

[haughty girder]

move that away from the UHF

[ashen hatch]

so we dont have any

no uhf receivers

[haughty girder]

Wait so what is using UHF then?

[ashen hatch]

the old system we replaced

[haughty girder]

and you're trying to fix UHF...?

[ashen hatch]

and any 2 way radio that enters that room stops working

[haughty girder]

if it's replaced what's the ponit

[ashen hatch]

i was jus asking why any uhf equipmetn would stop working

[haughty girder]

I mean

who knows

[ashen hatch]

if there are no jammers

[haughty girder]

hm...

[ashen hatch]

old pic b4 we moved a bunch of stuff

the whole room isnt visible

[haughty girder]

2.4g shouldn't be interfering with UHF

but

[ashen hatch]

exactly

[haughty girder]

so UHF antenna was internal?

[ashen hatch]

nope

[haughty girder]

you said stub right

[ashen hatch]

its a stub on the new system

[haughty girder]

oh

what did the old system use

[ashen hatch]

i thought you meant the new antenna

[haughty girder]

nono I meant the UHF antenna

[ashen hatch]

might find a pic hang on

[haughty girder]

or the point I'm getting at is

Was it grounded properly?

[ashen hatch]

probably, idk

not the same mic

[haughty girder]

oh PGX4

[ashen hatch]

but the receiver

[haughty girder]

I'm sort of familiar with that system

I don't like it.

[ashen hatch]

lol

[haughty girder]

There's always one mic (we have six) that would just have interference up the wazoo and there's no pattern to it

and it's a different mic every time

[ashen hatch]

hmm odd

i might dm u some more pics when i go there next

and then explain in more detail

[haughty girder]

I run wired most of the time now

[ashen hatch]

ya some of our stuff is still wires

[haughty girder]

mix of ethernet (dante) and xlr

[haughty girder]

Oh we do actually have this really funny looking pvc pipe contraption with the antennas spaced further out

it does help

[ashen hatch]

lol

where is your setup

[haughty girder]

Just a small auditorium

[ashen hatch]

ah

ours is decently sized

with atleast 10-11 speakers

spread in different rooms

[haughty girder]

it's a 388 seat auditorium

two subs, 4 speakers

[ashen hatch]

lucky

we dont have subs

[haughty girder]

oh the setup is more jank than you could ever imagine

it's fun though

[ashen hatch]

i bet its not as bad as ours

[ashen hatch]

oh ya

messing with that kind of stuff is fun

[haughty girder]

Well the thing is

[ashen hatch]

alot of ppl dont get the opportunity

[haughty girder]

it's a 20 year old system that we replaced a bunch of stuff in a few years ago during covid

so it's doing it the old way with the new stuff

[ashen hatch]

i had to work my way up to get to the "senior" level i am

[ashen hatch]

no way

you just perfectly described our setup

lol

[haughty girder]

real

we have two mixing booths though, one for house and one for recording

[ashen hatch]

all in one bby

for us

lol

its alot to keep up with

[haughty girder]

(probably the smarter idea too)

two is a mess

[ashen hatch]

especially if im the only one doing it

[haughty girder]

a lot of the times

ah

yea no I'm in a team of... 5?

6?

around that

[ashen hatch]

lucky lol

[haughty girder]

yea

[ashen hatch]

im only 17 and they let me have unrestricted access hehe

partly because im one of very few that is fluent enough to do it

[haughty girder]

I mean

young people learn quick I find

[ashen hatch]

yes

i would ad u to our lil server we dedicated to this project we are doing but my buddy is really paranoid about outsiders knowing what we do

[haughty girder]

Nah its ok

A lot of older venues and buildings have similar setups

[ashen hatch]

ya

is your setup cable managed

[haughty girder]

Sort of?

[ashen hatch]

hah

hats off lol

ours is a complete rats nest

[haughty girder]

real

[ashen hatch]

real indeed

[ocean pivot]

Hello, Is there a way to stop my PC speakers from buzzing. Even if i move the Aux cable into a position to stop the buzzing it comes back again.

[ashen hatch]

are the speakers usb powered

and have you made sure all the connections are secure

[tired crown]

What are some good gaming iems for ~$80

[graceful canopy]

seiren v3 mini or solocast?

[topaz swift]

solocast

[warm scarab]

get a seiren mini

solocast is a meme

[haughty girder]

Seiren v3 mini is different from the Seiren Mini... but it sounds alright from Razer's website so I'll say Seiren mini recc still stands

[haughty girder]

Solocast is ass

[warm scarab]

I thought regular mini was out of production

[haughty girder]

I dunno but I can still buy it

why is this so sketchy lmao

[topaz swift]

Both are ass

[warm scarab]

solocast is headset tier

other is alright mic tier

[haughty girder]

Seiren mini (og) was actually good

straight up good

Solocast just sounds like any other headset mic and it looks ugly

like at least Seiren mini doesn't look like this mf

[ocean pivot]

No they are connected to the aux port at the back of the PC

[ashen hatch]

How do the speakers get power

Not audio

[ocean pivot]

They are plugged into the sub which is powered by mains power

[ashen hatch]

Are the plugged into a power strip

And is the computer plugged into that same power strip

[ocean pivot]

No different power strips actually

[ashen hatch]

Are the power strips plugged into the same outlet

[ocean pivot]

No different outlets

[ashen hatch]

Ok hmmmm

I was gunna say it could be a ground loop

Buuuit

Hmmm what kind of speakers are they

[ocean pivot]

They are logitech z323's

[ashen hatch]

Ohhh I have the 313s

I've heard the amp in those models like to do that after awhile

[ocean pivot]

Ahh, time for a new set then. I've had these for years.

[ashen hatch]

Does it buzz when connected to anything else

[ocean pivot]

Hm i have not tried it.

Actually

[ashen hatch]

Try

[ocean pivot]

Actually yes i got a new computer

[ashen hatch]

Plug em into ur phone

Or smthn

That's not plugged into the wall

[ocean pivot]

It doesnt happen constantly. It happens at least once a day when but i dont move anything cables etc. But i will try and plug them into something not run on mains power

[ashen hatch]

Yes

[ocean pivot]

Okay thanks I'll have to find sometthing and let you know

[ashen hatch]

Just use ur phone

Or whatever mobile device

[ocean pivot]

Right plugged it into something. Its a lot quieter though but i can here the same sound

[ashen hatch]

ok then its def a ground loop

mostly ground loop

some of that buzzing is the amp

but no need to replace

unless it get really bad

try moving the speakers to its own outlet

[ocean pivot]

If I move the cable it gets better.

Hm might be hard

[ashen hatch]

ah

so its like mine lol

i need 1300 outlets every inch

lol

[ocean pivot]

oh damn thats a lot

Its not too much of a problem just can be annoying at times this buzz

[ashen hatch]

ya

[hollow lynx]

wait

hold on

a mic is just a reverse speaker

for sound we have subs, woofers and tweeters

yet for general microphone tasks we use a single size diaphram

[candid cosmos]

Yep, cause its easier to detect this than try to move air on such a wide spectrum.

[warm scarab]

but condensers have the same range as full range speakers

[candid cosmos]

They do. Because its easier to detect Sound than to produce waves with enough Power.

[tired crown]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QKZ25FK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A267P2DT104U3C&psc=1
opinion on these?

also i dont have a audio jack on my pc for them so how can i connect them

[livid ruin]

avoid them.
i’d just get kz castor or d-fi’s

kz castors

[tired crown]

those are $20

they cant be good

[livid ruin]

$10* and yes they are

[tired crown]

cant be as good as these

ive heard good things about them

[livid ruin]

average kz V shaped trash.

bright

the treble is just bad

[tired crown]

whats a better option?

[livid ruin]

if you want kz build quality then castors…

truthear zero reds

ew200’s are fine too

or other iems from simgot

[thick totem]

what stand do you have? if you dont mind me asking

[elder thistle]

no not bright

but uneven

I still think it's more resolving and detailed than a chu 2 though for example

[elder thistle]

but yes these are kind of old news

there is a revised "x" version that claims to have improved the treble as it almost sounded deepfried before

but I have no idea what it actually sounds like or how it compares to truthear zero reds or something

[elder thistle]

I think mine's called "puroma". just another random chinese name assigned to the same model of mic arms that other random names sell

it's the large version, don't remember how large/long

and it just has really big joints, big thick metal tubes, and no exposed springs

it's not completely centered... like looking straight down it the arm's a degree or two crooked

and there is a spring inside it with 100-150lbs of force

don't spray with wd40 and don't open it unless you are fully prepared for it to become a harpoon gun

I had to replace it after that lol

put a hole in my wall too

but otherwise woah. I see no reason someone would need a sturdier arm than this. works exactly like it should for about 2 years now

medium version https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FR9PHYN

[thick totem]

Lol wow that's crazy also interesting I do like well built stuff

[hearty pollen]

question is how does ur desktop pc not have an audio jack?

[warm scarab]

apple usb c to 3.5 adapter

[warm scarab]

those are pretty shit

d-fi is not the best either but its definitely better

[tired crown]

It does but my pc is 10 feet away

[lone lake]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0011UB9CQ/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=A3EUMN7CLSBX2A&psc=1
this is the headphones im buying what dac/amp should i look to get?

[warm scarab]

none

[tired crown]

Is there a good wireless adapter for truthear zero red

[lone lake]

?

[warm scarab]

you don't need an amplifier for it

[warm scarab]

any 0.78mm 2 pin one

utws3 and 5 are decent options unless the pins are recessed

go for kz ones if you have no money

[tired crown]

Are truthear zero reds good for gaming?

I am debating between those or kz zn10 pro x

[elder thistle]

usually iems give a poor sense of direction

[tired crown]

really? i heard they give better

[lean grove]

it seems to vary from person to person. i havent noticed any issues gaming with my iems

[livid ruin]

again, i’d not buy the zs10 pro x’s they’re literally worse than the $10 castors sound wise

[tired crown]

i decided on truthear zero reds

i heard they are better

and i heard how sketchy kz is

[livid ruin]

i’d say my hd681’s have wider soundstage and better imaging

the castors sound quite compressed compared to them

tho, hd 681’s sound wise are meh due to their harsh nature

[tired crown]

those are also $10

[livid ruin]

yet, they’re better than most iems soundstage wise

within the $40 range

don’t go entirely by the price. there are shitty iems also priced at $200

[tired crown]

yes

[livid ruin]

has been issue with older kz iems silently (rev) switching hardware resulting in worse sound quality and drives that did nothing iirc

people are aware of it and some teardown their kz iems just to check
they haven’t done anything sketchy yet with castors or dfi’s

[tired crown]

well the castors are sketchy on there own they didnt have to do a scandle for those ones

[livid ruin]

aslong they won’t change the hardware I don’t care.
ib they stopped including foam eartips recently with the castors to save costs.
you can buy them separately
it also seems like they have dropped the price a lil since they remove the foam eartips so, not an L for the consumers. tho, if you want stock experience the new castors may not have it. the foam eartips improve treble

[lavish otter]

Really liked my Zero Reds but ended up giving them to a friend. I was originally in the same boat as you and almost got the KZ (I think even the same model) because they were like $6 on ali. They sounded amazing but I ended up getting some Lenovo sport model since my use case no longer included IEMs for home use.

[livid ruin]

sounds like zvx

those are like $6

zero reds salnotes or truthear zero reds?

[lavish otter]

Every comment here was like "don't buy that crap". Glad I didn't. If I need IEMs again, I have zero issue with buying the Reds again. They were really impressive. Truthear if I recall.

[livid ruin]

yeah, those are nice

I don’t have issues with castors either

[tired crown]

yeah im exited to get those next rabit hole is a mic

[livid ruin]

that 1.3khz bump is bit too much for my taste tho, viable

[tired crown]

im considering a fifine a6t and then in like 6 months get a real mic

[lavish otter]

What's the current $10 IEM king anyway? Seems to change every 6 months.

[livid ruin]

castors

[lavish otter]

ah

[tired crown]

you seem obsessed with castors

they arent that good even for the price

[livid ruin]

literally no competiton to begin with, no one makes decent iems at $10 expect for kz as far as i know

[tired crown]

theres a reason they dont

[livid ruin]

say why then?

[tired crown]

for 1 the general quality 2 the sound stage is really bad

[livid ruin]

no and no. you won’t get better soundstage nor sound quality at $10.

imaging is mediocre*

[tired crown]

yes because there is no other option at $10

thats like saying "yes this gpu is really good at 40 cents"

[livid ruin]

not really good example but ok

“they aren’t even good for the price” contradicts with your comment then.

[tired crown]

how

[livid ruin]

you said, there’s not an other option…

[tired crown]

exactly

[livid ruin]

castors don’t even have that bad soundstage, imaging. it would be considered mediocre for a $50 iem.

[tired crown]

a $50 iem would slam the castors

a $25 iem also

[livid ruin]

name three.

expect for the truthear zero reds

[tired crown]

kz zs10 pro
kz 7hz
and most other iems over $20

[livid ruin]

7hz sound compressed. more than castors

sound wise, that’s up to your preference if you want detail or bit darker iems towards the mid-high treble

zs10 pro’s? even if they would have good soundstage, imaging (which they don’t)
they have niche treble profile.

[warm scarab]

salnotes

truthear hola

thats about what I can muster up

[livid ruin]

did someone say hola’s

give us those back

[warm scarab]

:(

its the audiophile fate to have a good item

then they stop producing it

stax

[livid ruin]

lmao

[warm scarab]

estat speakers

he6

magnepans are also out i think

what a shit fucking hobby

oh sorry guys remember this 300$ item we sold 20 years back

[livid ruin]

hd 560s

[warm scarab]

we are making a worse version of it for 3000$ instead

[warm scarab]

wait what

[livid ruin]

change to padding, pads, cable lenght

[warm scarab]

oh ok

look it could have been worse

id rather take a shitty stax cable than 50 year old sigmas

[livid ruin]

it did make them less balanced 😢

ig atleast they’re cheaper?

looks like sennheiser thought the hd 560’s were too overpowered so, they nerfed them

[warm scarab]

real story

[stiff gull]

I have a Onkyo reciever I bought 7 years ago and I think it finally kicked the bucket. It’s throwing error codes and won’t initiate a firmware update. (Model TX-NR575 if anybody cares… error 0-81)

I am looking to buy a new receiver. does anybody have good recommendations (<$500 if possible, preferably with similar features)

[lone lake]

Ok odd request but does anyone know how i would be able to achieve similar sound to the logitech pro x with the velour pads, basically i hate sound isolation and the pro x with the velour pads allow the prefect amount of sound through

[tough lava]

You can get very good deals on older receivers on FB marketplace ime

[warm scarab]

@lean grove are there any bluetooth over ears at 100-200$

[unique wind]

they’re really begging people to buy this piece of crap headphone

[unique wind]

is this for you or someone else

if this is for you and you can tolerate jank then just put some bluetooth amps on the he400se

[warm scarab]

someone else

[warm scarab]

it needs to be porta fi

not home

[unique wind]

ah

bluetooth ear hook amp with 400se is probably not the play for a more casual user

and definitely not public use portable like u said

[warm scarab]

yeah

cant imagine those going well in public transport

[unique wind]

idk under 200 is tough because they all just get nuked by airpods pro 2

[warm scarab]

hmm

you may be right

[tired crown]

I have some iems coming and am wondering can I plug them into the headphone jack on the control pod thing on my logi z313 speakers

[lean grove]

Why wouldn't you be able to

[tired crown]

Okay so I did some looking and apparently that port just mirrors the speakers so I ordered this cable https://a.co/d/1ELQz1s

[unborn gale]

Are the drivers better than the 400se? Since if it's gonna be cheap, it might be worth building a new chassis for it or just making it open backed

[unique wind]

it’s identical to the sundara except with closed wood backs

it measures extremely poorly

[warm scarab]

sundara drivers aren't the best

[lean grove]

yes but what if you strapped a block of wood to the back of them

[warm scarab]

150$

[unborn gale]

Ah I see

[warm scarab]

~~350 ~~300 250 200 150$

[lean grove]

the hifiman price progression

[elder thistle]

could someone just take the wooden backs off and turn it into a normal sundara?

is there no changes in damping

[sterile crag]

I have a episode amplifier that’s stuck on a old WiFi and need to put it on a new WiFi but I’m not sure how to, anyone know?

[warm scarab]

a what

[elder thistle]

my presonus e3.5's measure like this 🗿

but they are beat to shit and running off of an external amp with the active speaker containing a clone crossover

[untold otter]

why do certain asus motherboards have a usb-c port specifically for audio and wtf does it do? i feel like using it is pretty arbitrary and redundant if you already have an external amp/dac ngl

[coarse pike]

whats a good desktop amp you would recommend

im not getting enough sound out of the port on my motherboard with 80 ohm DT770 pros

[warm scarab]

apple usb c to 3.5

[frosty mauve]

Hi, my moondrop chu 2's eartips started to detoriorate (I think is was putting too much pressure in my ears and they lost shape) and I wanted to order replacaments. Are silicone eartips universal? Or do I need to buy them from moondrop?

[nova wagon]

they are universial if noted otherwise

[frosty mauve]

thx

is there anything else to look out for?

[nova wagon]

They will change the sound profile of your iem, that's about it

[lean grove]

Make sure the nozzle diameter is roughly the same

[frosty mauve]

thanks 👍

[cerulean halo]

Ayone know which really good speaker for game and music listhing

i had a logi tech z623 old speaker but it feel it sound like false and not good sound

[lean grove]

Check out options from genelec. I hear good things about the 8351

[cerulean halo]

genelec ??

explain plz

i too newbie in sound tech

oof genelec about 4000 dollar price lol

i don't have money for that

i would give max 400 dollar

[lean grove]

oh. maybe check options from edifier then. if you have room for a subwoofer you can get the s350db

[cerulean halo]

oke lest see

[tired crown]

What port do I plug my speakers into? I have my iems in the green one

[severe hare]

Klaus, whats my next upgrade coming from truthear x red, i was thinking on hexa? budget 100~~

[tawdry gale]

hexa is a sidegrade

[tawdry gale]

Truthear nova is the cheapest thing that isnt a sidegrade

[severe hare]

iam inspiring in crinacle tier list

[tawdry gale]

dont look at tier lists

too subjective

[severe hare]

i mean, i agree

but having little to no experience

its better than blindly

[tawdry gale]

go demo stuff

[severe hare]

island

[tawdry gale]

what island

[severe hare]

there's no shit here

azores 😄

[tawdry gale]

fly to london

elise audio has a lot of stuff to try

[severe hare]

what i have currently..
TANGZU-WAN / chu 2 / truthear x red

people talk alout about blessing 2

but yeh kinda out of range

[tender oar]

Does anyone have desktop speaker recommendations

[tired crown]

Do you need speakers?

Iems or headset would be 10x better

And what’s budget?

[tender oar]

Yea I'm switching from iMac to monitors and I don't really want moondtop lodged on my ears while I play some explosive games

[tired crown]

Turn them down…..

Speakers should be same volume as iems or headset for what you hear

[tender oar]

Still want speakers because I don't want IEMs lodged in my ear all the time

[tired crown]

Okay what’s the budget

[tender oar]

50$

[severe hare]

uf

50$

maybe..

[warm scarab]

what

how

[severe hare]

try some edifiers?

[warm scarab]

under proper circumstances speakers are the staples of audio

[warm scarab]

that's a really low budget

go with creative pebbles

2.1 version ideally

for 100-120$ you can get edifier 1280s

considerable step up

[severe hare]

edifier on my amazon are always on sale soo you should find some sales too

amazon.es on my side

[warm scarab]

yeah but which edifiers

its not like every product they make is a godsend

[severe hare]

R1280T

most basic ones

[warm scarab]

those drop to 50?

[severe hare]

no, 99€

but USA maybe lower

i have tax and whatever bullshit europe

Klaus as you are here

what do you think about upgrade path from
TANGZU-WAN / chu 2 / truthear x red

alot of people say truthear nova

some say to save a little and blessing

[warm scarab]

im really not an iem guy

idk about chu 2 and wan'er

as in im not sure if they are the best money can get you

but reds should be alright

[severe hare]

i have those 3

xD

[warm scarab]

this is a shot in the dark though honestly, I'd definitely get someone else's opinion on the subject

I got barely any listening on wan'er

[severe hare]

alright, appreciated the honesty

[tender oar]

Alr I'll go for those

[severe hare]

i got those pebbles

and they sound great

btw

[warm scarab]

eagle did say edifier 1280s drop to around 50$ sometimes

[severe hare]

but i sold to a friend, maybe in the future i get edifiers

dont know for how much it would drop tho

[warm scarab]

do keep an eye out for them if you can

[severe hare]

but if mines 99eur

USA should be 80 or less

99$ lighting deals at 83$

just checked amazon.com with keepa

[graceful canopy]

i think i asked this before but where is it where I put my headphone jack in by default?

as in which colour jack in #5

[lean grove]

And I think I answered before. Green. #audio-tech message

[graceful canopy]

alr so i have a weird thing going on where, I have headphones that have a 6.3mm jack but I also have a 3.5mm adapter. When I plug my headset in to my PC there is no sound and 0 indiction its connected (via control panel) however when I plug it into my Microphone (my microphone has a real time voice monitor that is 3.5mm) I can hear my desktop fine

Why wont it connect to my PC and how do I fix this

[lean grove]

Idk.

Maybe check that windows is outputting to the right place and try your cable with a different device

Its probably either a problem with the cable or with Windows

[graceful canopy]

i just spun the headphone jack in the adapter and that kinda worked

bad adapter ig

[warm scarab]

make sure its plugged all the way in

some require extra strength

[left cypress]

How do i tell the differnce between a shitty amp and a good amp? im tryna redo my home audio system (only the amplifer/recever) side of things, all the speakers and that are staying, i wanna get three rack mountable amps for three different zones, all connected to individual sonos ports, for the sonos inteigration, then i also wanna get a home theater amp and or reciver, for my home theater, and also run a sonos port into that.

but as far as the acutal amps and recevers go themselfs i have no idea what to look for.. any help would be appreciated

[haughty girder]

if it has enough power and it's class d then honestly, don't worry too much about it

[left cypress]

what do the classes mean and how do they work?

[haughty girder]

digital, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_amplifier_classes

[left cypress]

whats the best class?

[haughty girder]

well it depends what you're after

efficiency? Class D

sound quality? depends on the implementation but generally A is better

Class A/B is generally regarded as a middle ground, not too inefficient while being pretty good

don't take this the wrong way but if you're just learning about this, chances are you won't notice the differences

[left cypress]

its not really for me, as much as it is for my dad

currently we are running the dennon heos drive hs2 for 3 diffrent zones, but we want to break it into three diffrernt amps rather than running it off one device

so if the amps any better than that then im happy

[fossil zinc]

Keep in mind a class a amp is very inefficient and will heat your house and destroy your wallet

[lean grove]

Third party measurements are a good indicator of what to avoid.

If you want something rack mountable, you might have luck finding some old adcom 535s or other amps. They even have some 5 channel amps floating around.

You could also just buy a bucket of fosi ZA3's and not worry about it.

[haughty girder]

Crown XLS works great and aren't too expensive as well

[gentle gate]

anyone know any good budget soundbars? Preferably with a sub

and I don't wanna hear I should just get speakers or a surround setup or something like that instead

and I live in Denmark so Vizio isn't really an option

[haughty girder]

just get speakers

jokes aside is it a space constraint or whats up

[gentle gate]

just exploring my options, kinda just wanna know if there's anything that's even worth it without breaking the bank

[haughty girder]

I wouldn't be able to give a good recc since I don't know the market there

like regional pricing - how Pixels are far cheaper in NA than EU, for example

generally I'd say avoid soundbars but there are some alright options

[gentle gate]

I see

[gentle gate]

you wouldn't happen to know any good budget AVR's with arc or earc support then?

[haughty girder]

ohhhhhh

Also yea that's out of my wheelhouse, I do sound recording

[gentle gate]

fair fair

[fallen lava]

is 200 dollars for 2 Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 bookshelf speakers worth it?

[lean grove]

Seems like an okay deal if they're in good condition. For $200 new passive speakers, micca would be the competition.

Looking at some measurements only thing I see that's wrong with them is that the bass port is tuned a bit high .

But everything other than that looks fine.

Fine for $200 At least.

[fallen lava]

ight ty for the fast response

[glossy obsidian]

anyone got any speaker recomendaitons

[haughty girder]

budget?

[sand swallow]

I recently got the nothing Ear 2 it works well with my phone but when I connected it to the laptop for the first time, only spotify music was playing. I could not hear audio from other windows so I uninstalled the nothing bluetooth driver and since then I have not been able to even pair it to my laptop via bluetooth

please help

[lean grove]

I hear good things about genelec. Maybe their 8351

[left cypress]

looking at. it now i might as well just go with sonos ams, but as for the theater rooms reciver thats where im not sure

im currently running the Denon AVC-X4700H but want to upgrade, and preferbly to something that focuses more on audio rather than shitty smart features like heos because i will be using sonos with the sonos port for that anyway

[cinder cipher]

Not really sure where I can ask this, so if you have any ideas please let me know;

Im currently running a umc22 to record trombone/guitar as well as using it as a glorified pc audio card.

I have a $2000 budget to get myself krk speakers/sub + a server rack for some audio gear/home studio

The gear itself I have a $2000-2300 aud budget for. I was initially looking at acquiring the focusrite 18i20 + the presonus hp60. I intended to use them not only for recording multiple mics and driving 6 pairs of headphones. I also planned to use the focusrite interface as a glorified audio card as well. Issue is I was wanting to have both my krk monitor/sub setup, and the hp60 receive the same main mix output from the focusrite interface (without having to press alt input everytime). I was told by a sales rep that I could not set output 5/6 as a secondary set of stereo outputs mirroring the main output. I dont know if this is true or not but I need to be able to have both the speakers/headphones recieving my pc audio at the same time. Any suggestions on how I can achieve this? Possibly with another rackmount interface or rackmount audio amplifier? I havent ever used a focusrite audio interface so I dont know how their software works, so forgive me if what I'm looking to do is painfully easy

Would love to go back and forth and clarify anything if need be

[slim mason]

I used to have a pair of diamonds, dont remember which ones exactly but they sound very nice

but they were hooked to a massive harman/kardon amp so cant say really if that made them sound better

[wintry garden]

Running audio for a dance recital. I currently use Sound Cue on my 12 year old iPad mini, but wanted to know if there is something better to use on a windows based laptop.

[haughty girder]

For the headphone part, I think what you're looking for is something like an Behringer HA6000

oh wait you already have an HP60 nevermind

They're all line out and you can adjust them inside the focusrite app, so you can have all of them outputting the same thing if you'd like

[opal juniper]

anyone knows why forza horizon 4 audio is weird without windows sonic enabled?? I have Nahmic audio enhancements on my Lenovo laptop.

my headphone is 7.1 surround sound

usb connected

help plz

[real wasp]

if i were to plug in an audio source into line in of my behringer xenyx q802 would i be able to hear the input while feeding it into the microphone and forward that to the pc?

[molten lotus]

Try reinstalling the drivers to get the earbuds paired again. If the Nothing Ear 2 are reporting themselves as a Bluetooth DAC then Sporify might be running in direct to DAC mode.
This is better for audio quality as it should skip any Windows audio processing but can cause this issue. Check your Bluetooth settingsand also check Audio settings in the new Windows settings app. In the audio page there should be options to edit audio settings per app, Spotify should be one of those options

Look through here if you can run the audio through the system instead of directly to the DAC. It's been a while since I've used Windows so I don't remember specifics but that is where I would try first.

[cinder cipher]

I was informed I would only be able to adjust them while I have a daw session open and it would not be permanent. I wish I could check that so I'm hoping somebody here might know if that's true

[graceful canopy]

still dont get how my headphones work by plugging them into my pc case and not my motherboard

[haughty girder]

It's not daw session, it's controlled via the focusrite control app

it's basically the interface driver

[haughty girder]

it would just combine the audio

if that's what you're asking

[cinder cipher]

My backup plan (if I cant configure the outputs the way I want), is to use this cable to split a stereo headphone output on the hp60 into the two left/right channels of the krk sub. Thoughts on this?

[haughty girder]

I've done this before and I've recommended similar setups with a 3.5mm jack and dongle to other people. It works just fine

[cinder cipher]

Okay thanks for your help. I trust you on the ability to configure the outputs, but there is very little info online about the software and how it's used

[haughty girder]

You can download the manual and take a look if you'd like

[sterile frost]

Im looking to replace my 5 years old Logitech z623 speakers.
I'm curious about the edifier mr4, is it good for gaming and watching videos etc?
I know that not having a dedicated subwoofer is a down grade but from the years of using the z623 I have not turn the volume up more that 30%.

[sand swallow]

from where can I get the drivers?

[molten lotus]

Try Windows Driver Manager or Nothing's website

[sand swallow]

you mean windows device manager?

[sand swallow]

i uninstalled the bluetooth driver from windows device manager itself so I cannot update it from there and also there are no drivers on nothing website

[molten lotus]

Well if you uninstalled your Bluetooth driver it explains why you can't pair.

Right click on your wireless card in device manager and select install drivers. If it can't find them automatically, check on your manufacturers website

[sand swallow]

where is the wireless card in device manager?

[molten lotus]

Right click, re install

[sand swallow]

right click on what? the device has been removed from bluetooth devices

[molten lotus]

I'm fairly sure the wireless driver that you have highlighted is Bluetooth as well, they're usually the same chipset.

If not as I mentioned before, if it is not there try your manufacturers website

[sand swallow]

it only shows 3 options update, uninstall, and disable driver

and it also shows scan for hardware changes and properties

I fixed it I ran the bluetooth troubleshooter from control panel and now its working thanks for your help @molten lotus

its playing audio from all apps

[haughty girder]

MR4 are solid

even without a sub it sounds more full than the Z623

sure it only extends down to 60 from 35 of z623 but everything above about 800hz is far better with mr4

[indigo viper]

Has the AirPods 3rd gen not got the 2nd gen stuff?

And why is the gen 2 more expensive??

[nova wagon]

You are comparing against the airpods pro gen 2

[warm scarab]

yeah that isn't gen 2

also gen 1-3 airpods are a massive L

[fossil zinc]

Thinking of pulling the trigger on hifiman anand nano is there anything else I should be looking at in that range

[unique wind]

get the edition xs if you want an egg shaped midrange hifiman

[fossil zinc]

Every review says the nano is better than the xs

But is it 300$ better

The brightness in the treble won’t bother me I can’t hear over 14k anyways

Looking for good bass extension and imaging

[white gate]

This was a really fun experience, a bit of behind the scenes with some of the key figures in the creation of the Air Motion Transformer!

https://youtu.be/_N3ImvdE5NQ

[unique wind]

edition xs

it has full bass extension to 20Hz and even gets a slight boost if there isn’t a perfect seal on your head

the only thing better about the nano is its headband

[fossil zinc]

I think the headband is important to me I like the wider strap
The sundara closed backs are comfy I have some others with the thin padded band and I find them uncomfortable

The closed backs are decent but zero imaging

[unique wind]

yeah the suspension headband is wayyyyyy better i agree

[fossil zinc]

Next decision is between a fiio q15 or a schiit stack jotenhiem lokius

[stiff gull]

not sure why I never got the ping, but it is what it is.

any specific model I should look for? or just the same thing?

[silver elm]

Peoplele of ltt, how we feeling old-school analog home audio equipment? 🤔
Goes great with the HiFi Man HE 500s I found on the shelf at goodwill for 9.00 US clammy big ones about a year ago now
(Sorry for the lighting here I could not win with this pixel no matter what I tried with the light)

Here's a lil line in demo on the some of the performance you can get from these bois
Playback Deck; Proton 740, 1986
Record Deck; Technics RS TR 265, 1990
Source; "Master Quality" FLAC
Tape; TDK CD Power 110, 2003, +0db, Dolby B, HX Pro
Song; End of The Night, The Doors, 1967
Digitized File; 44.1/16 Flac L8
Noise Reduction on Playback; None

[warm scarab]

you wont get good imaging with planars

while I absolutely love planars and prefer them to dynamics

expecting them to have good imaging is going to leave you disappointed

[warm scarab]

you can get aftermarket suspension straps

https://customcans.co.uk/shop/product/hifiman-edition-xs-comfort-headband-strap-diy-mod/

[fossil zinc]

All the reviews of the nanos call the imaging godlike

Z cheap Joshua passion for audio

But the nearest place I could demo them is 4 hours away

[zenith spear]

NewFantasia Replacement Audio Upgrade Cable Compatible with beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro, DT 1770 Pro Headphone and Compatible with AKG K371, K175, K275, K245, K182, K7XX Headphone 3.1meters/10feet https://a.co/d/gB4dZWP

Good quality cable for akg k371?

[tidal shoal]

My Dac/Amp: Monoprice Monolith THX AAA 788

[rugged nimbus]

i've noticed my PC speakers like, throwing a bit of top-out static into some output recently. should i consider getting new speakers or could this be a software issue or can i try something to get rid of it?

is there a way i can reliably test my speakers?

Ponder. I just ran some testing apps and none of them seemed staticy on any of my output devices. I wonder if the issue could be the individual things i was listening to

[tough lava]

Any really. I just searched every now and then, checked the specs etc and then when something came up that was right specs/price, jumped on it.

[nova depot]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09DTCGT7Q/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A2224L4YIUC64&psc=1 would anyone recommend this?

[tidal shoal]

I had those but my sister's dog ate the cable and ruined my headphones completely. so I need to buy another pair of them.

[lean grove]

the cable is removable?

[unborn gale]

you think I could have the ruined headphones

[warm scarab]

ill dispose of the headphones for you

[steel escarp]

The strong urge to get a dt1990 for the bass performance. But the treble is a big yikes. Why it always gotta be like this. Like fostex suffer from this too.

[zenith spear]

Anyone know any 10ft cables for akg k371?

[tawdry gale]

just get iems for bass performance

under 750 usd

[tawdry gale]

or get focal elex

focals have very dynamic bass

[lean grove]

just let grey happen

you cant stop it

[steel escarp]

I have been considering getting some truthear nova

[tawdry gale]

ye just do the 1 band eq

and its perfect

[steel escarp]

Headphones during summer is not that nice

Does truthear nova sound really compressed like the moondrop variations?

I have the moondrop kato rn and it's way nicer than variation

Of course I am not looking for big staging in IEMs. But I want something close to the moondrop kato

[tawdry gale]

what do u mean compressed

be more specific

[steel escarp]

Moondrop variations sound really narrow

[tawdry gale]

do u have a proper seal in ur kato

[steel escarp]

The bass was also too much for me. Maybe I got a unit that had a tad more bass.

[steel escarp]

Yes

I can't fix the peak the kato has with EQ

Sadly

[tawdry gale]

nova has no peaks

its extremely smooth

[warm scarab]

not the same

speaker is a full body experience

headphone is some of your head and ears experience

iem is ear canal experience

[tawdry gale]

thats why I reced elex too

[steel escarp]

I love my dt880 if you eq down the 2 peaks it has. When doing a sine sweep on most headphones it doesn't sound linear at all. Like the loudness goes up and down a lot and varies per ear. With dt880 its so damn consistent. Compared to he1000v2 stealth.

[warm scarab]

id heed nils advice if i were you donny

[steel escarp]

Can't get elex in europe

[warm scarab]

you are a cog in a machine

[steel escarp]

Else I would have

[warm scarab]

and grey is like a manual grinder

he is mortar and pestle

[tawdry gale]

u can import

[warm scarab]

is elex drop

[steel escarp]

I know too many people who got elex dead on arrival

An elear with clear pads would be better

Exact same frequency response

[steel escarp]

Yes

[warm scarab]

warranty

[tawdry gale]

its sold out on drop now, but headphones.com sells it for 499 usd

[steel escarp]

Drop warranty is non existent

[steel escarp]

They only ship to the USA

[warm scarab]

was it originally drop

if not they should be in europe

french company

[tawdry gale]

its sold out on drop

but headphones.com has stock

[warm scarab]

No bro

Read before answering

[steel escarp]

Focal doesn't want to deal with elex in europe

No warranty

It's a drop thing

[tawdry gale]

its a drop x focal collab

[warm scarab]

okay thank you

[warm scarab]

use drop one

if they ship to europe then they provide warranty to europe

[steel escarp]

Drop customer support is a nightmare

Cammy's unit died 2 hours after use

Heard nothing but nightmare stories

[tawdry gale]

they ship to france

[steel escarp]

I don't want to pay shipping to Europe and 21% import taxes

[warm scarab]

yea dude holy shit 76$ shipping

[warm scarab]

second hand

also shut up about imports

literally everything you buy that wasn't made in eu has imports

or some form of tax that subsides for it

its just that it goes into the base price instead

[steel escarp]

I heard utopia bass

Not as good as dt1990 bass

Don't think elex will have better bass

[tawdry gale]

which utopia

the new one isnt good

[steel escarp]

Probably the new one

[tawdry gale]

ah

og utopia bass really gud

[steel escarp]

I miss my subwoofer

Maybe it's time for hedd speakers and speedwoofer

Dual monitor gaming and stereo speakers do not mix unfortunately

[tawdry gale]

endgame

[unborn gale]

aren't they made in France?

Also beware of the shitty focal headband which warranty does not cover

or I guess, buy from somewhere where they will honor damages caused by shitty build quality

[tawdry gale]

yes, but its a focal x drop collab

only available in US

[unborn gale]

ah I see

[severe hare]

Btw ive been researching IEMs for my upgrade from thuthear zero reds

iam gonn wait for SIMGOT SUPERMIX4

it will be maybe my end game

seems pretty good overall

was inclined for em6l but yeh

i dont "main" gaming, i use more for music and casual gaming

[lean grove]

The endgame was inside of you all along

[severe hare]

i mean..

my endgame is sub 200

but i wrote here for opinions nevertheless

[unique wind]

truthear nova

better than sigmot supermix4 and already exists for much less than 200

[severe hare]

I will see some reviews! Thanks, i though that nova's were more for bass

[steel escarp]

you nearly making me get them to confirm they are shit

[unique wind]

anything you say about them will not change the fact that they are the best non-custom in ear monitor

[steel escarp]

maybe we all just need to add a compressor to our audio to achieve endgame

[warm scarab]

why do you think this

[unique wind]

theyre the closest adherance to the harman target which is what people are statistically most likely to prefer, and even if you dont like harman they're still the most well suited to eq

[steel escarp]

if its like the variations in frequency response it has too much bass

[unique wind]

because of their exemplary upper treble linearity

[warm scarab]

so you haven't even tried

ok

[steel escarp]

vocals get burried by the bass

[warm scarab]

grey shut

[unique wind]

grey this is quite literally what the upper bass tuck is for

this is science not debatable

[warm scarab]

if this nova thing is anything like delta flight iems

[unique wind]

and unlike shitdrop they actually have decent qc

[warm scarab]

phew those gonna suck

[unique wind]

there are many moondrop variation samples out there that have no bass tuck at all

[warm scarab]

no need to thank for the input

[unique wind]

or several dB less treble than theyre supposed to

[steel escarp]

I am not the only one who doesnt like the bass and vocals on the variations

[unique wind]

pretty sad for a $500 iem

[lean grove]

Well grey doesn't live in the same plane of existence that we do so debating based on science is going to always be moot

[warm scarab]

we are judged by fundementally different physics

[steel escarp]

we all have different htrf

debating is stupid

[unique wind]

see my recent comments about them

theyre a qc mess

and theyre also inverted absolute polarity

[warm scarab]

you have a very different one

have you met jackson grey

[unique wind]

hrtf differences dont make you need upsidedown midrange with a massive 2k dip

[steel escarp]

my ears give DCA Aeon 2 Noire good dynamics

so I guess I am just build different

prefer them over their new e3

[unique wind]

i really wish the aeon 2 noire was good because it's sexy

but it gets clapped by the aeon closed x that's half the price

[steel escarp]

doesnt the aeon closed x have like negative sound stage

[unique wind]

yeah it has a 2k dip but i would fill that in with eq

aeon 2 noire cant be saved with eq its treble is erratic

[steel escarp]

aeon x closed is a drop thing

DCA had one closed back that sounded really compressed

[lean grove]

Just one? 💀

[unique wind]

clark phones are weird

stealth measures really well on one test rig and horribly on humans

[steel escarp]

only listened to a few DCA

Dan Clark Audio Aeon X Closed

that was the one

[unique wind]

all closed backs have measurement abnormalities tho theyre inherently flawed

[steel escarp]

it cost like 700

it is decent in fr

but like IEM tier sound stage

[lean grove]

afaik pretty much every DCA has shit dynamics.

some people are saying E3 is a departure from this trend though

[steel escarp]

E3 was kinda a boring listen for me

[unique wind]

the noise isolation has a play on psychoacoustics and makes people think they have no stage or sound compressed

youll see people say they sound like iem headphones

[warm scarab]

yappin

id rather use dt880

[steel escarp]

trueee

[unique wind]

id like to try that but im not paying for it

[steel escarp]

I add a 5db bass shelve to my dt880

hella lot of bass distortion but idc

its less than when I did it to the hd800

[warm scarab]

i was greyin

[unique wind]

last time i tried listening to my 770s with the stock velour pads i nearly threw them across the room as soon as a song started playing

[warm scarab]

its alright tho

btw

[steel escarp]

dt770 should be put in the trash

[warm scarab]

foobar over musicbee is the biggest cope ever

[steel escarp]

bro klaus

[warm scarab]

been using foobar for the last few days

its so bad

how do they cope this hard

[steel escarp]

when you pause your music isnt stuck in exclusive mode

[unique wind]

i still use spotify

[steel escarp]

there are parametric dsp plugins for foobar

so you can use exclusive mode and eq together

[warm scarab]

or I can use vac

[steel escarp]

what

[warm scarab]

virtual audio cable

and use eq apo

lol

[unique wind]

vac is goated

[warm scarab]

id also stick to spotify if i hadn't local files

[steel escarp]

I have vac

for my ai voice changer

[warm scarab]

I like listening to weeb shit

that stuff is not on spotify

[unique wind]

vb-cable my beloved

[steel escarp]

spotify has more weeb shit than tidal unfortunately

[warm scarab]

not enough in any case

[unique wind]

i wish i could have all the money i spent on source gear and my microphone processor back

[warm scarab]

tidal has fucking nothing

garbage

[unique wind]

it's all hogwash and software is better

[steel escarp]

apple music is the goat of anime music

[warm scarab]

no

[steel escarp]

I use cider

that hooks into the apple music api

and that gives me a good UI

[warm scarab]

sources I cannot name without violating terms of service are the best anime music providers

[steel escarp]

dm

[warm scarab]

if they wanted my money they would have put their shit on spotify

[unique wind]

truthear novas are the best monitors for anime music grey

[warm scarab]

but no I need to download them from god knows where

[steel escarp]

japan still sells CDs

a lot of songs are only on CD

unfurtonately

[warm scarab]

I aint paying 30$ for a cd

[steel escarp]

use nyaa

[unique wind]

im not paying for any movie or song on an individual basis hell naw

[steel escarp]

if you know you know

[warm scarab]

bro

[warm scarab]

.

alzheimers

[unique wind]

it would cost thousands of dollars to buy all the music i listen to

[warm scarab]

💀

[steel escarp]

time to get a vinyl collection

sounds inconvenient enough

LiSa on vinyl

[warm scarab]

I don't want to imagine you fucking with vinyls

[steel escarp]

💀

[unique wind]

vinyl is for decoration

[warm scarab]

thats an unholy combo

[warm scarab]

nah its top tier hobbyist fi

[steel escarp]

I convinced my dad to get The Dark Side Of The Moon on vinyl

[unique wind]

audio gear shouldnt be a hobby

it's inherently anti consumer

youre supposed to find your affordable endgame and go back to enjoying music

[warm scarab]

well guess not

people like experimenting

[steel escarp]

why dont we make our own affordable end game

[unique wind]

i dont have to because truthear did it for me

[steel escarp]

and then still sell it for 1k (dms)

[warm scarab]

I got this

[steel escarp]

I still want to own a susvara at some point

[steel escarp]

good god

what are those

[unique wind]

pretty decorations

[steel escarp]

an evangallion fan

[warm scarab]

evangelion vinyls

[warm scarab]

case of skill issue

evan gallion lmao

[steel escarp]

bro I watched 3 episodes before dropping it

idk how to spell it

[severe hare]

holy shit

[warm scarab]

michael's face when he learns pink floyds are only available in vinyl in original print

[severe hare]

rant started since i asked why novas

xD

[warm scarab]

it is overrated

but still good

[steel escarp]

this song is my all time favorite

[unique wind]

we used to bicker in here all day but its been kinda dead for a while

[steel escarp]

specifically this version

Pulse live

[warm scarab]

yeah chat has been dead

[unique wind]

i lost interest in yapping about audio after i bought novas

ive just been enjoying music

[warm scarab]

i brought the 20$ moondrop tws

[severe hare]

tbh... i dont have a way to try

[warm scarab]

i fucking hate audio

piece of shit

ngl tho

[severe hare]

novas or sm4

[steel escarp]

💀

[severe hare]

iam going purely by reviews

[warm scarab]

the moondrop spacetravel anc is like really damn good for its price

[severe hare]

soo

[unique wind]

the issue is that 99% of iem reviewers are full of shit

[warm scarab]

i was expecting another nekocake moment where it barely works

and fucks audio up

[unique wind]

anybody can buy $20-200 earbuds and yap on camera with no measurement equipment

[warm scarab]

but no the anc in those actually works and doesn't diminish shit

[unique wind]

thats a win

$20 tws is a steal if theyre okay

[warm scarab]

they aren't the best but they aren't bad either

totally salvageable with eq

im using the arias anyways, its not too much worse

[steel escarp]

peak audio

[warm scarab]

least wont have to put fucking metal blocks in my ears

christ

[severe hare]

i was liking the review of this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyNhdj_BIu4

and he seems he has a lot of experience, Databases, etc

[unique wind]

i can tell you that it doesnt beat nova by looking at its graph for 3 seconds

[warm scarab]

tbh

bro doesn't have an affiliate link

im surprised

[severe hare]

the IEM doesnt exist

xD

yet

its a pre production sample

[unique wind]

it looks worse than the simgot em6l tbh

specifically in the upper treble

if you dont like the bass shelf on the em6l then you can just lower it

[warm scarab]

which graph

[severe hare]

i assume hermans

[unique wind]

whomever posted this that i found with my incredibly scientific google image search

[warm scarab]

tf

anyhow

doesn't look that bad

[unique wind]

better than most iems but worse than novas

[severe hare]

the thing is

[warm scarab]

are novas single driver

and are these

[severe hare]

can you just EQ what you want whatever you want?

[warm scarab]

yes and no

[severe hare]

why dont ppl just buy the most "technical"

[unique wind]

idk what those are but novas have multiple drivers

[warm scarab]

because tone and technicalities correlate

[steel escarp]

I miss my speakers

[warm scarab]

they aren't totally different things

[severe hare]

i see

[steel escarp]

even tho they were fatiguing as heck

[warm scarab]

technicality in terms of audio is not really scientific

shit like soundstage is affected by tonality

[unique wind]

in terms of bass and midrange yeah

[warm scarab]

you add more treble in some place you get more soundstage etc

[unique wind]

upper treble is hard to measure and eq

[warm scarab]

some stuff that carries over is like group delay

layering

[unique wind]

if you wanted to eq then novas are the best for that too anyway

no other non-custom iem can touch its upper treble performance

[warm scarab]

are novas single driver

[severe hare]

dont know jack shit about Eq

[unique wind]

no

[warm scarab]

is the iem he posted

[steel escarp]

nova: 1DD+4BA

[unique wind]

no clue

[warm scarab]

oh shit

[unique wind]

i didnt know that iem existed until he mentioned it

[warm scarab]

id not be too sure

this iem looks really interesting

[severe hare]

xD

another one to the cult

[warm scarab]

id wait for input from people I know who'd actually buy this shit first

[severe hare]

i have truthear zero reds and i freaking loved IEMs since them

[unique wind]

nice reds are solid for their price

[severe hare]

thats why iam hoping to jump for the end game and be it

[warm scarab]

their other flagship has planar drivers in it and such

[severe hare]

"end game" for me xD

[warm scarab]

it might get interesting if this shares that

[unique wind]

theyre missing some upper treble but have good bass and midrange tonal balance

i went from reds to novas

[warm scarab]

Supermix 4 - 1DD 1Planar 1BA 1PZT

it has a planar driver inside

@severe hare id honestly watch this one

[severe hare]

i will wait for it

[warm scarab]

looks really interesting

[unique wind]

i dont see why planar would ever be a benefit in an iem

[severe hare]

and they said

150$

[warm scarab]

layering

and maybe soundstage

just maybe

[unique wind]

the only important benefit of planar on over ear headphones is their bass extension

but thats not a concern with iems

[warm scarab]

no lol

the layering, soundstage and lack of decay are things planar drivers provide

I don't know how much these features will carry over for this iem the guy reviewed but

if any of them do, it might be big

[unique wind]

accurate imaging and layering are determined by tonal balance and extension

[warm scarab]

can provide*

[severe hare]

planar for 150$ is unheard

[warm scarab]

layering is completely unrelated to frequency response apart from treble

imaging is group delay

[severe hare]

but since they are 150$.... they need to compromsise somewhere

[warm scarab]

which planars fucking suck at

but who cares

its an iem

portafi material

[unique wind]

alright bros making up gobbledegook

nonsense etc

[warm scarab]

rtings literally measures group delay bro

bros face when he learns people have more than 1 measurement for determining headphone behavior

if shit existed like you claim it did

take your sundaras eq them to he1

that easy

[severe hare]

i understood jack shit but michael is learning

[unique wind]

im not learning

hes yapping nonsense

[severe hare]

be open minded

[unique wind]

i am on the side of audio science eagle