audio-tech

[frosty socket]

bm800

its known to come with hiss

[warm scarab]

return it and buy something good

[frosty socket]

budget isnt the best rn icl

[warm scarab]

you can get decent usb condensers for like 20$

its a garbage aliexpress mic

[frosty socket]

too late now

[lean grove]

Its Samson's answer to everyone wanting a """broadcast"""" style dynamic microphone. It might have a better pre-amp and ADC than the q2u, so less hissing, but I don't think the price is justified over a q2u

[warm scarab]

that has a random diaphragm for every individual instance

[frosty socket]

its all what was avaidable

bad regional pricing and not much avaidable for me

in terms of options

[warm scarab]

where do you live

[frosty socket]

africa

[maiden yarrow]

i can get it for dirt cheap with an employee discount

[frosty socket]

rlly hard to find anything good here in terms of tech

[warm scarab]

what do you use as an audio interface

for the mic

[frosty socket]

usb soundcard

no good audio interfaces

[lean grove]

Your money your choice 🤙

[warm scarab]

put the usb sound card somewhere that doesn't have many electronic devices around it

or cables

same with the mic's cables

[maiden yarrow]

its like only a couple bucks more for me than a blue yeti

is it worth it over the blue yeti

[frosty socket]

how tho

[sweet grove]

gonna ask a fairly audio nooby question would any boom arm do? are they like a standard size and stuff like that?

[warm scarab]

isolate them from the rest of the electronics and the cables of electronics as much as possible

[warm scarab]

pull them apart?

[frosty socket]

do i put it in the front io instead

[warm scarab]

you can try

normally to avoid hiss

[frosty socket]

ill try that and ill tell u the results

[warm scarab]

you would lower gain

and get closer to the microphone instead

which would add a large range at which your voice is and the hiss is

so you can easily filter it

[lean grove]

Yes

[warm scarab]

blue yeti was worth it

in like 2014

when there were no other usb mics available

[maiden yarrow]

yeah and should i stick with my bose quiet comforts or shouldi buy some xm5s

[warm scarab]

xm5 is pretty trash

[maiden yarrow]

i also get a heavy discount on those

[frosty socket]

@warm scarab i isolated it

[warm scarab]

i wouldn't use them without heavy eq

[warm scarab]

any change?

[frosty socket]

not much

[maiden yarrow]

my use case is like discord and work calls

and games

[warm scarab]

you isolated the cables too right

[frosty socket]

yes

[warm scarab]

how close are you to the microphone when you speak

[frosty socket]

10cm

[warm scarab]

that wont do

get closer

[frosty socket]

like 5?

[warm scarab]

yeah

your lips could practically be touching the mic

[frosty socket]

im 5cm away now

[maiden yarrow]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/elgato-wave-mic-arm-lp/6470531.p?skuId=6470531

[frosty socket]

aparently i was already at 5cm

[maiden yarrow]

also will this arm work with it

[frosty socket]

i got a ruler and checked

[warm scarab]

lol

well

[frosty socket]

can u join a vc

and listen to the mic n shi

u mute up

[warm scarab]

just send a voice recording

im on my phone

[maiden yarrow]

answer found it will

[warm scarab]

ill listen to it in a bit

[frosty socket]

alright

do i just speak into the mic

in voicemeter

and capture with geforce?

[warm scarab]

uh

[lean grove]

The problem that a lot of people have with microphones at their desk is that they sound like ass when they're just slapped down on a little stand right by their keyboard.

The mic is gonna pick up as much noise from your desktop as it will your voice. Keyboard clicks, mouse clicks, your bag of Doritos.

And assuming that everything on your desk is dead quiet, it's gonna pick up on echos in your room. If your microphone is 1 meter away from you and your wall is 2 meters away behind it, your microphone will pick up the echo from the rear wall. And because you and the wall are both about 1 meter away from it, your echo will be just as loud as your voice.

Now if you have a fancy boom arm that can keep your microphone about 10cm from your face, your voice is 10x as loud compared to it being 1 meter away. And the wall is now twice as quiet. So the napkin math says the echo will be about 200x as quiet compared to what it was earlier.

[warm scarab]

whatever you want to do

there should be a "sound recorder"

by default in windows

or "voice recorder"

[maiden yarrow]

so

• Bose qc45
• Samson q9u mic
• elgato wave mic arm

is this a good setup

i wont need to do any professional like voice acting or recording just like calls and games

[lean grove]

@sweet grove
https://youtube.com/shorts/PvfWNjOAKe4
This video gives a good demonstration of why you want the mic close to your face instead of further away

[sweet grove]

oh I know, I get the reasoning behind a boom arm I was just wondering if I needed to keep an eye out for a specific connector or if boom arms have a pretty standard way of holding up a microphone

I wasn't asking for you to explain what a boom arm does

[warm scarab]

boom arm quality is based on the noise it makes when you move it, whether it droops and the mount's quality

apart from those not really

if you don't really care about some noise when you move the thing around any arm would do

as long as it's base isn't shitty plastic that breaks

[sweet grove]

so a cheap $20 amazon boom arm should do the job?

[warm scarab]

yeah innogear should have a decent cheap arm i think

if you want an extra mile go get a reel based one

[lean grove]

Oh I misread your question completely. Sorry.

Yeah it's mostly the same threading I think. There's the larger size that's pretty common on audio equipment and the smaller size that's more common for cameras. But most have an inserted converter on the inside that you can remove with a coin.

[frosty socket]

dms klaus

[maiden yarrow]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/elgato-wave-mic-arm-lp/6470531.p?skuId=6470531 is this gonna function good enough

[sweet grove]

gotcha gotcha

[warm scarab]

its a metal pole

tf you mean function

[sweet grove]

so just avoid plastic, if it metal it good?

[lean grove]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7QK96llg-F8

[warm scarab]

just avoid plastic for the base

like where it grabs the desk

it will break eventually

[sweet grove]

gotcha boss thank you

[warm scarab]

if you have a shitty ikea desk that's hollow you should also buy something with a larger base

so more distributed force

my shitty desk got dented

i cut a metal plate and placed it below the mic so it distributes force

[sweet grove]

i dont think my desk is hollow it doesnt sound it when i knock on it but idk i got it second hand

[lean grove]

Neewer mic stand is $20 and will be good enough

[maiden yarrow]

but those ones are too big this one is smalelr

[sweet grove]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aokeo-AK-35-Microphone-Suspension-Scissor/dp/B01MZ99Y67/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1Z20C29ZJ7BNQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wV1V8eYZ6yNGr5LYgjBZKDR5DlrBfQYQAq4LiuKKkTFCw_T9YhEfi4wfdbAkB7yWCeG_kp9DFFyv91vWnz9GsjMs3JpPxIkC1SiEh1ewdhHPfVJ9SbHT7B69iMkWZ8Jyrc6tCNfbPGlBolnNLRJTc_7KEIyAYTP0WT2EoarR2Np6-j8pEVy4vqPirwIyk-W5QgIC4h03LNOht19vXbqB6_c33Paf8XwhI0G7xEj7Tm8_f2WtTuEiDJJ10MKv2f-mwFB1JJJsgzZ9Pnda4jkNWTsMOD_xegdTPNTLdc_Dd9Y.oXTkL90fTdv9F6-ahQ_Afvm7jZXscFmV5wF1aY-eg9s&dib_tag=se&qid=1714688909&sprefix=boom arm,aps,74

hows that one look as a boom arm it looks metallic on the base

[lean grove]

Bog standard looks fine.

[sweet grove]

excellent so it and the samson, cheers guys ❤️

[lean grove]

The desk mount looks a little better than normal

[sweet grove]

it was just the first one that came up on amazon when i typed in boom arm and the price didnt seem terrible

[lean grove]

Normal for a $20 boom arm at least

The plastic might slide off after a while. So you might need to add furniture feat so it doesn't ruin your desk with direct pressure from the metal

[sweet grove]

also just to be crystal clear this microphone right? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samson-SAQ2U-Microphone-Recording-Pack/dp/B001R747SG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HB1WA5UC3FB4&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.a5Cs3NUkTrQYhkZcMSI8W9wllrABv54re0pYl5RhvKGedROa0wIFa3QdN6u1_A7YPBONlCdawWrKwX797nQZvfZ0VeDAHs-d2_asCeJR6sm2Q0u_DRQ2vEbwg53zwVilVB3PscWybOzkOZnCvbYoyu0SsSyVXk3vKVnetIk_knOB3nKWf_X7EcdvYPnNQWGwkrL_WWTUn1_0ybOIZ-mZGAGnEJPp_KwTp0cbpqx9S_u5egtrF9iRDMgQukBXOk5tcz1rTMP90__Ny8DR7VeOFLvQEPBSMjxw9gdL5dIa1hw.VxdZD397_B7UZQ1wyixXZDCPV9vEIGPYfx5mfxuj7dE&dib_tag=se&keywords=samson+q2u&qid=1714689193&s=musical-instruments&sprefix=samson+%2Cmi%2C91&sr=1-1

[lean grove]

Hmmm.

[warm scarab]

hmmmmmm

[lean grove]

How much is the audio technica atr2100x by you

[sweet grove]

let me check

[warm scarab]

just give em a fifine and be done with it

why the shitty esoteric dynamics

[sweet grove]

about same price

[warm scarab]

wow look as this obscure dynamic mic

that doesnt respond post 16khz

[lean grove]

Your voice has no useful content above 16k

[warm scarab]

it sounds crisp

[lean grove]

Its irrelevant

[warm scarab]

that's such a cope

[lean grove]

Either or. Q2u was my recommendation from a few years ago. Idk if anything new and shiny has come since then that might be a better deal.

[sweet grove]

they're about the same price the ATR is £3 cheaper so negligble difference really

[lean grove]

Yeah. Maybe find some sound demos online, see if they've been compared

Specifically listen for hissing or background noise

[sweet grove]

i found one on the samson and the yeti and yeah...

yeah a bunch of videos on the atr and samson

[harsh heron]

Mounted, kinda far apart because that was the nearest stud

[maiden yarrow]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/rde-podmic-dynamic-podcasting-microphone/6393956.p?skuId=6393956

can I easily connect this to pc

[warm scarab]

man

💀

you know there is a reason why every speaker setup guide says to place your speakers away from walls right

and to point them to ear level

[sweet grove]

watching a comparison betwene the q2u and atr and the guy said if you hit someone over the head with the samson it'd probably cause some serious damage

i think thats a point to the q2u?

[warm scarab]

idk what use you'd have for a mic

but i can smash shit real good with this c1 i have

delicious nuts

mm

[sweet grove]

if a microphone cant also be a mace whats the point?

[harsh heron]

I don’t watch no tutorials I do as I please

[warm scarab]

well its a fast way of making good speakers sound like logitech ones

but I hope you enjoy the setup nonetheless

[harsh heron]

They were sideways on the desk under my monitor before so anything is an improvement 😭

[warm scarab]

you can maybe cut some panels for the backs of the speakers?

like audio panels

[harsh heron]

The foam ones?

[warm scarab]

nah

those are for vocal stuff only

hang on ill find something

@harsh heronhttps://www.amazon.in/Acoustika%C2%AE-Soundproofing-Acoustic-Panels-Rockwool/dp/B0BH56KVKF

something like this

btw I have no idea why amazon directed me to the indian site

make sure its like a rockwool panel that's as thick as possible

[harsh heron]

No white or light grey is a crime

[warm scarab]

there should be

that's just an example link I don't think you live in india anyways

https://www.amazon.in/Acoustika®-Soundproofing-Acoustic-Panels-Rockwool/dp/B0C4G4S4BR

here bro gray ones

just travel to india and back

why the fuck is amazon redirecting me to india

oh wait thats indonesia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1bSSL8tRA

@harsh heron

you can also benefit a lot from this tutorial

its a night and day level of difference, arguably way more important than anything including speakers themselves

[harsh heron]

Yeah I got that software

[warm scarab]

best investment ive personally made regarding speakers

[warm scarab]

nice

[harsh heron]

I got the peace thingy

Someone told me it’s better

[warm scarab]

better than?

[harsh heron]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/

Idek it’s this

Ion know what the difference is but I was told this is better

[warm scarab]

equalizer apo is the eq program

peace is like a gui for it if you are stupid

and cant be bothered to watch a tutorial for eq apo for 10 minutes so you have to sacrifice functions

[harsh heron]

Idek

[warm scarab]

but anyhow that's not what I sent

[harsh heron]

Ion ask questions I just listen

[warm scarab]

the video I sent is about buying a measurement mic, placing it where your listening position is

recording a frequency response with REW

then using REW to automatically adjust and equalize the frequency response based on your room's acoustic profile

giving you ideal sound

or getting you closer to it

[harsh heron]

That sounds like a lot 😭

[warm scarab]

its a 16 minute tutorial for several times better performance

[harsh heron]

Yeah but how much you gotta spend

[warm scarab]

if you have an audio interface then you can buy an ecm8500

i think its like 30-50$

umik-1 is better and should be like 100$

ecm8500 is like 85-95% accurate (bullshit number I made up)
and umik-1 is like 99%

[harsh heron]

I Do not have an interface

My next thing I wanted to do was get a better mic

This Fifine mic kinda ass

[warm scarab]

how are you using the mic

[harsh heron]

Wym?

[warm scarab]

where is the mic placed

where are you placed

what's the distance and gain like

[harsh heron]

My mic is pretty close to my face and it’s at a angle towards me

[warm scarab]

what do you not like about the mic

[harsh heron]

Looks dumb

Mainly 😭

The rgb is cringe

But also just doesn’t sound as great as I’d like for testing keyboard sounds

[warm scarab]

unironically the measurement mic is perfect for this lmao

that's what people use for testing keyboard sounds

also take into consideration that your audio is coming from your headphones

unless your headphones are perfectly neutral its normal that the audio is off

[harsh heron]

How neutral are hd560s

[lean grove]

You will need some sort of an XLR interface.

[lean grove]

What flavor of neutral

[warm scarab]

close enough

[lean grove]

Yeah close enough

[warm scarab]

may be the mic after all lmao

anyways

[harsh heron]

Ion speak this language

[warm scarab]

the measurement mic is a good way of recording keyboard noise and its what most reviewers frequently use

[lean grove]

There's a few of different definitions of "neutral" for headphones.

[harsh heron]

Yeah ion know

[lean grove]

So chasing neutrality without knowing what neutral even is, is kind of a wasted effort

I think you'll probably be happy with the 560s

[warm scarab]

dw about your neutrality with the 560s

i was considering if you had some obscure gaming headphones

anyhow

tldr

get the mic

👍

[harsh heron]

I mean I’ve had them for 6 months now

[lean grove]

Oh

Guessing you like them?

[harsh heron]

Yea

I also tried pc37xs and ksc75s and like them the most

[warm scarab]

i am not surprised you prefer actual headphones over ksc75

ksc75 are overrated

they are good for 20$

[harsh heron]

I even tried to get a headband for them but still mid

[warm scarab]

they aren't good for anything above

you are better off getting some iems

[harsh heron]

People were saying they are better than hd560s but that’s cap

[warm scarab]

who lmao

they must really hate having bass

[harsh heron]

Some “audiophile” in a different server

[warm scarab]

which server

[harsh heron]

Idek I left it awhile ago

[warm scarab]

audio hub?

sonic visions?

sonic getaway?

[harsh heron]

Absolutely no clue

[warm scarab]

headphone headquarters?

awesome

[harsh heron]

My memory is terrible

[warm scarab]

well anyhow do you have anything else to ask

[harsh heron]

Nah thanks

[warm scarab]

ight

[dry harbor]

Do not use a measurement mic for recording keyboards, or for recording anything for that matter. If you use a mic, put it around where your ears are — where you hear it in the room, as a person would hear it. Most of the time we’re not listening to our keyboards up next to our ears. (makes sense huh?)

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-eric-balfour-insane-you-sound-insane-whats-going-on-with-you-gif-15314345

[dry harbor]

Measurement mics are for impulse responses and room frequency response in acoustics and room tuning

[lean grove]

whats this in relation to

[dry harbor]

Talking about conversation above

No crying, Eric

[lean grove]

so you are

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-what-wide-eyes-schoked-omg-gif-8497484

im still confused

[dry harbor]

Bummer

[warm scarab]

what

its a mic with a flat response

[dry harbor]

At least put it back & up at ear level. They’re omnidirectional. I recommend a good cardioid. We’re not comparing 384kHz converters here.

Pro audio engineer of 20 years this year

[warm scarab]

apart from noise and pickup why does it matter that you are using a measurement microphone with a flat response over a cardioid I assume is tuned for instrument or vocal recordings

[dry harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/special-dumb-dummy-gif-7068419121745449264

[warm scarab]

the local pro engineer of 30 years told me to buy 2k cables

[dry harbor]

It’s unnecessary. Placement is important

[warm scarab]

and in the case where you place the mics in the same point?

[dry harbor]

Just talking mic selection and placement. I’ve seen a lot of people@on YouTube who obviously think they’ve got a legit fancy set up, and they’ve got all the fundamentals wrong of the mic’ing and it sounds like ASMR or something

[warm scarab]

placement sure you didn't say anything wrong

but mic selection I can't get the logic of

the mic particularly used to record audio in a neutral manner is worse than a cardioid?

[dry harbor]

For example. A shotgun mic is physically designed to be used at a distance and I see so many videos with those up close on keyboards. Cringey

[warm scarab]

shotgun mics deserve better than most people who use them

[dry harbor]

Measurement mics aren’t used for recording things we hear every day but go ahead and either make sure to roll off the low end or just enjoy the YT compression squashing your signal

[warm scarab]

it's not like using a cardioid undoes yt compression

[dry harbor]

If used at a proper distance as discussed, you’ll have more predictable bass response & EQ’ing

I mean go try things! Everything plays a part. Desk material, room response, etc

[warm scarab]

well of course but unless you are building anechoic chamber that's going to be the part of every review

[dry harbor]

lol

[warm scarab]

I don't follow the cardioid logic still or the rolling off low end part

why would you roll off the lows if you are trying to measure a keyboard

[dry harbor]

Lookup the frequency response charts of some mics you might consider vs the chart for your measurement mic and you’ll see what I mean

[warm scarab]

alright

then c1 vs ecm8000

is that a good comparison to you?

[dry harbor]

I don’t memorize the f response of every device made

[dry harbor]

Moving forward. Putting some switches& caps on a new Keychron Q1 Pro

[warm scarab]

ignore the stupid labeling

of the graph

the red is c1

ecm8000

very low unit varience in the lows goes flat to around 10db

10khz is wacky but still

[dry harbor]

Largely different on a measurement scale but comparable. Roll it off. High-pass everything, I’d say, in a keyboard video. Hipyo does a good job.

[warm scarab]

what about umik-1

every individual umik goes testing in an anechoic chamber with a flat sine wave

after that the particular profile of that microphone is written into an eq profile to flatten it then uploaded in the internet which you can access via the code on the mic

essentially giving you the flattest measurement mic for anyone not in possession of a microphone measurement studio

[dry harbor]

Are you measuring rooms for acoustics?

Your playback systems are earbuds and phone speakers.

[warm scarab]

what

[dry harbor]

Seriously I wouldn’t sweat it

[warm scarab]

I use it for measuring my speakers and eqing them to harman in house target

[dry harbor]

If you’re selecting these mics for measuring rooms — impulse & frequency responses — then okay

[warm scarab]

and delay

[dry harbor]

Okay right on

[warm scarab]

why would I buy a measurement mic

that isn't for measuring rooms

they are good for stuff you need to have an objective representation of a sound but for anything else including vocals I enjoy extra high end

[dry harbor]

I can’t speak on any except mainly the Earthworks M50 which I trust implicitly

[warm scarab]

I think you should honestly read upon the umik-1

it should be on the newer end of things, i was pretty astonished to find out they have individual measurements for each mic they make

saves you a lot of money

[dry harbor]

We use Trinnov and Genelec GLM in our rooms

[warm scarab]

I don't think I can afford those with most of my assets combined

glm I can

[dry harbor]

I wouldn’t unless you plan on tuning the rooms first. Like burning money otherwise

And that’s and financial and possible remodel commitment too

Acoustic tuning I mean

[warm scarab]

unless I am working with diffusers which I maybe should if im considering a trinnov

I would just slap mineralwool with cloth on it on walls

call it a day

on the reflection points 1-3

[dry harbor]

Noooooooooo lol

Go read https://www.mheducation.com/highered/product/master-handbook-acoustics-sixth-edition-pohlmann-everest/9780071841030.html

And then let’s chat

Or YouYube university

[warm scarab]

hang on they banned my alternative source for downloading books

[lean grove]

I don't think Klaus has read anything in his life

[warm scarab]

I wouldn't if my teachers didn't force me

which was the initial reason I stopped reading

💀

[dry harbor]

UCANHAZPAY

[haughty girder]

LMAO

[molten lotus]

Best dongle DAC/AMP type C under 30 buck ?

[hearty pollen]

apple dongle

[grand granite]

Nice, I think it might be meyer sound, I could be wrong

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/mgm-lion-tanner-lion-big-cats-roar-gif-21261308

[molten lotus]

Oh no, I'm using Android unfortunately (S24 Ultra)

So I can't use that Dongle, it's quiet af

[hearty pollen]

have you tried it already?

[molten lotus]

Yes

[vestal meadow]

cheapo chinese ones work fine

they come with many names most of them are fine

if you want a slightly upmarket one jcally jm6 is fine

but all of these i have had issues with the usb c connector getting flaky

[slow bolt]

Anyone got a suggestion for headphones for gaming? I’ve been pinging back and forth between getting the wireless nova pro steel series headset, or going down the hole for audiophile kind of headset, whether it would be audio technicas or anything in that realm. Just wanted to ask and see if anyone has a suggestion before I end up buying one or the other.

Already got shuresm7b so I don’t need a mic, just want some kind of decent headphones for whatever

[lean grove]

If you wanna prioritize sound quality then go audiophile route.

If you wanna prioritize comfort and features stick with gaming headsets

[slow bolt]

Imma be honest here I have a kraken headset rn, I don’t really care for features. I’m big into listening to music and stuff so I’d be more than happy to go down audiophile route. I just don’t know what exactly to get

[livid ruin]

avoid getting headpsets from companies like razer, steelseries, corsair, etc…
poor sound for the money

[slow bolt]

I heard a lot about that, I keep hearing that people say you should get dt700 pro or 900s, there’s a bunch so that’s why I’m wanting to ask for recommendations

It’d be my first time getting into these but again I’m big into music and everything so yeah

[livid ruin]

dt 990 pro’s no

something like hd 560s or pc37x would do fine

[slow bolt]

what makes you say no to those, just wondering

[livid ruin]

distortion, bright and muddy sound profile

not worth the price

[slow bolt]

Gotcha! What about the audio technica’s? I’ve heard a lot about those too

I think I hear the ATH-M50s the most

[livid ruin]

decent

[slow bolt]

Again I wouldn’t know much, I have around 350 to play with or so, so that’s why I figured I’d look around

[lean grove]

Audeze Maxwell, hd560s, or the hd6xx. Beyerdynamic dt880 is also a decent choice if you want less clamp. I also hear good things about the beyerdynamic tygr.

I will highly recommend that you avoid the md50x and anyone that recommends it

[slow bolt]

Avoid anyone who recommends it is crazy lol. But yeah sure! I’ve heard a lot about the Audeze maxwell’s (autocorrect sucks)

[lean grove]

I stand by that statement.

[slow bolt]

Nah it’s just funny, I am still looking rn, just debating with it all. When I looked at the tyger and then people keep suggesting the other beyerdynamic headphones when I look into them.

[elder thistle]

the dt900 pro x is pretty well regarded here, in terms of imaging and stage width at least

I do like the m50x for it's high instrument separation, tonal balance, precise spherical imaging, and a couple feet of soundstage

but the way the m50x is heard is split into two camps. it's really an anomaly. for some people none of the things I described exist in any audible capacity.

very binary

I am working on ways for people to screen themselves for this problem before actually buying the m50x or it's clones. the score is 2:0 in favor of it working right now, but that's too small a sample size and results may change

the tone of somewhat reputable and known gaming headsets is more optimized and revealing for footsteps and gunshots and such than a lot of audiophiles think

they also seem to prioritize rear imaging capability. so very good results in competitive fps games can happen for not a lot of money, and without eq

also obligatory image (and they're $143 currently wtf)

[haughty girder]

CX31993

[molten lotus]

KZ AM01?

[haughty girder]

Has a somewhat mediocre noise floor

otherwise it works

but I personally refuse to buy anything from KZ given their sketchy and nontrustowrthy actions

If you're comfortable buying things on aliexpress, search up VE Abigail

Venture Electronics Abigail is a really solid dongle for the price

Generic CX31993 are close

[molten lotus]

Thanks bro

[waxen marsh]

Not sure if this is the right spot to ask but thought I'd give a try. I have 1 large movie file on my computer although it is actually 3 movies conjoined. Looking for a easy software where I can split it into its 3 movies.

[warm scarab]

video editing software in audio tech?

[supple robin]

any alternative youtube music clients with the same sound as offical one thats a chromeapp but also not a virus that wont steal my gmail account i use for linkedin and stuff?

problems with current one: slow, also was listening to disney song and i couldnt put it in mini player because its made for kids.

[supple robin]

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/shotcut-2203

shotcut maybe, the video editor by climpchamp i think and microsoft in the windows store

and il post an advanced one, https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve but thats not really what your looking for. in future i'd put it in #tech-chat-1 or #tech-chat-2

[supple robin]

if your looking for closed back also check out k361/k371

[warm scarab]

^

[nova wagon]

oh shit davinci 19 is out? dan

ah it's public beta

[haughty girder]

I highly recommend Davinci Resolve

it's a bit of a steep learning curve for anything but the most basic cutting but that's what you're trying to do so it should do the job

I would avoid clipchamp as the compression sucks

[waxen marsh]

I am running the file through handbrake I'm assuming that wouldn't mess with things

[haughty girder]

well

you're recompressing a compressed file

it's already not perfect

[waxen marsh]

True but would it be better then clipchamp I guess

[haughty girder]

anything is better than clipchamp

[nova wagon]

tbh it's gonna be steep if it's their first NLE regardless
version 19 will ship with hardware decoding for the free version and it's gonna be a great performance improvement

[haughty girder]

Wait you're not lying about V19?

LETS GOOO

(I got Studio 15 ages ago and haven't upgraded)

[broken smelt]

How do I connect these both to one aux cord

And do they require power or no

[elder thistle]

not that easy unfortunately. you need to have some kind of amplifier that powers both speakers

looks like amplification and crossover filters were covered by that board. but if it's broken...

you'd need to find an amp person to help you diagnose and repair the amp

but it looks like a cheap speaker so it might not be worth the work

[cunning falcon]

Hey all, I can’t decide which one should I get Astro A50X or audeze Maxwell

[elder thistle]

it is impossible for members of this server to not side with the latter even if they never heard the former

[warm scarab]

latter

[tawdry gale]

maxwell

[cunning falcon]

How’s the microphone?

[tawdry gale]

its acceptable

[slim mason]

I actually might get the a50x purely for comfort while gaming, sound quality and mic dont matter then as much to me, I have the r70x for that

[warm scarab]

for your circumstances it might make sense

but for multimedia use I wouldn't take a50x over maxwell

since id want at least 1 headphone with good sound quality

[tawny python]

anyone have experience with creaky headphones? I got some ATH-M40x for 15€, and other than the worn out pads colouring my ears black, they are a bit creaky. do I use some oil or what?

[cunning falcon]

i heard the maxwell are heavy , is it true?

[warm scarab]

sort of

half a kilo

[cunning falcon]

hmm i currently have arctics nova 7

and i dont like the software at allll

[warm scarab]

wired or wireless

[cunning falcon]

wireless

[warm scarab]

software for headsets is a long time meme

they provide nothing

[cunning falcon]

yeah , also the chat/game mix is via the software which i didnt like

is there any indicator on the maxwell that the mic is muted? like a light?

[warm scarab]

uh

not sure in the way steelseries handles it

dont think there is an indicator

[digital trout]

Currently debating between purchasing DT 770 Pro (80 OHM) and ATH-M50X. Which one is the better option/value?

[livid ruin]

hd560s

[digital trout]

That's a nice looking set. But it's over my budget. Also, I'm looking for closed back. There are reasons why I stated the two sets that I did.

[livid ruin]

hmmm

maybe one of the hd5x9 lineup but, those are less decent than the hd560s

hd 569’s and hd 559’s are closed back iirc but they’re meh

[digital trout]

I mean, ig I could go the open back route with the HD559 or DT 990 Pro. Which one of those would be a better long term investment? I still would like to know which of the two closed back sets I mentioned earlier are the better option between them though.

[livid ruin]

if you can go with open back then i’d probably get hd 599’s from them. they’re a tad muddy but alr

$130

[digital trout]

@livid ruin I presume that's USD? Because the HD599s are $230 CAD. I'm in Canada btw. Also, out of curiosity, have you ever actually used beyerdynamic sets before?

[warm scarab]

k361

k371

[warm scarab]

don't buy the hd559 or hd599

they are absolute garbage

hd599 is a mud cannon and hd559 is gaming headset tier

dt990 is a better investment but dt880 250ohm is even better

and you shouldn't buy dt770 or m50x

both are significantly outdated headphones

hd560s in my opinion the best choice unless you are a competitive gamer

[digital trout]

Thank you very much for all that input! I should've looked more closely at AKG models. Overlooked that. Also, the DT880 set is unfortunately way too expensive for me.

[warm scarab]

if dt990 is the only option you have, its better than the alternatives presented to you

but ideally dt880 and hd560s is what you'd want

also try to get the 250ohm version on all beyer headphones

[digital trout]

Woah! The price jump for the 250 ohm models is quite significant. Lol. This is in CAD btw.

[warm scarab]

Well, like before it's what you'd ideally get, if you can't get them its alright but its a downgrade

what exactly is your budget in usd?

[digital trout]

$180

[warm scarab]

all of these i mentioned are above 180 usd?

jesus christ

that's an insane price markup

should be like 150$ max

[digital trout]

Well, that's the CAD tech market for you. Lol

This is why I was looking at any "used-like new" (open box basically) offers on Amazon. Also looking to see if any offered monthly Amazon payments (which some models I was considering do).

For example, the HD 560 S IS $280 CAD on Amazon, but I can select to pay 3 monthly Amazon payments of $93.33 interest free.

The K361 is $164 CAD though. K371 is $220 CAD.

Btw, I should preface that I'm looking at a pair for music related purposes. I want to get into mixing/mastering and recording my singing.

[warm scarab]

all of them are suitable

[digital trout]

@warm scarab Thank you once again for all your input!

[warm scarab]

np

[tribal trail]

how am i hearing my fm transmitter on sw 13m?

At first i used FM , and then switched to SW

The radio is Unitra Eltra Julia Stereo, the phone is a Nokia N8 (which i modded to have a external fm transmitter antenna - a cable in my example) and the song playing is Numero Uno - Tora tora

[tribal trail]

on the radio, the phone was transmitting on 97.00mhz

[warm scarab]

electrical interference?

[tribal trail]

That is the song playing on SW

I am 100% sure

I even stopped it

How is it recieving on SW?

Its amplitude and not frequency modulation, and its a different frequency

[warm scarab]

was there any speaker connected to the phone or anything

or headphone

[tribal trail]

No

Just the phone and the radio

[warm scarab]

no idea im not good with this subject

if there is an analog signal in normal format carrying that signal then it might be caught up by the transmitter as an interference

and to my knowledge you can use an fm transmitter for catching sw?

its just not ideal

the phone being in close proximity to the antenna may have resulted in it picking up the signal

[tribal trail]

hmm

[hot veldt]

Any bookshelf speaker recommendations im currently running the q acoustic 3030i looking for a upgrade

Budget is around a €750/€909

[tribal trail]

wdym?

Like a radio or more like something you can play your own music on?

[warm scarab]

speakers lmao

[tribal trail]

oh

I reccomend Tonsil speakers

[warm scarab]

i don't think anyone apart from you does radios in this channel

[tribal trail]

Old, often seen as garbage, but sound great

[tribal trail]

sucks

[warm scarab]

i don't see much reason to go out of my way to use a radio while having flawless internet connection

unless its one of those old soviet tube radios

which are really expensive

[tribal trail]

your radio probably doesnt have Tonsil speakers

my Julia Stereo and Lena 3 have

[warm scarab]

nothing prevents me from connecting tonsil speakers to my computer

but many things prevent you from getting a perfect audio signal out of your radio

[tribal trail]

how

Do you have 4 ohms out?

[warm scarab]

yes?

[tribal trail]

nice

[warm scarab]

its not like having a speaker amplifier is a forgotten art

any dumbass on ebay can grab one for 5$ these days

not a very good one but a half working one

[tribal trail]

and i listen to radio

Cant take speaker amplifiers outsid

Can take my Julia Stereo out, if i can affort 8 R20 batteries

[warm scarab]

you could like, buy a bt speaker and use your phone?

I don't propose bt speakers are the best sounding items out there but we have gone very far in terms of portable audio unlike home audio

[tribal trail]

Can probably use my julia stereo for self protection

Weights 6,5kgs without batteries

[warm scarab]

im not sure if thats a good thing for a portable speaker

[lone lake]

whats the best headset/headphones for like £200

[tribal trail]

Not reallt

But my Eltra Halina is better tham many speakers

Runs on 5 AA's and can make over 90dB of noise

The batteries last forl multiple months

Its not too big too

Compared to my hand and some scissors

[lean grove]

hd560s

or hd6xx if you can go a bit above the budget

[elder thistle]

what house is the best under $200k

also you people who recommend the hd560s should get a pair of official replacement pads

otherwise inaccurate review experience as the sound has seriously changed

and that's what everyone who gets recommended them by outdated reviews is receiving

dt990 arguably more neutral

if you do have the ones with rebranded hd559 earpads which are more rectangular with the foam, well fair enough

[elder thistle]

hd560s is more of a mud cannon than the hd599 at least based on frequency response

[warm scarab]

ok bro

[lone lake]

Mb ill never ask again

[unborn gale]

He's just here to spread misinformation, just ignore him

I'd recommend reading up stuff on reddit or headfi. People are always asking those budget related questions. You should be able to find something at least.

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510681715484786710/970417880774606874/reddit-moment.gif

[unborn gale]

I mean, yeah, but I think it'll be better than just having Jackson recommending you M50Xs then giving you a useless flac file to hear nothing of value

[lean grove]

i really dont know which one i'd prefer

actually. id prefer they just get 6xx

[elder thistle]

there are hundreds of people I've helped who would love to see that

[unborn gale]

At least the 6xx will be more comfortable ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elder thistle]

things are never that black and white

[elder thistle]

rips out my hair, severe clamp force

firm pads

[unique wind]

truthear nova

[elder thistle]

hd6x0 needs servicing and break-in to become that comfortable for a lot of people

granted now that mine's broken in and stretched and the hinges full of hair, they're extremely comfortable

[elder thistle]

it was more in reaction to the chaos that is receiving a direct headphone model name for a question that can't warrant such an answer

there are preferences, hrtf differences, a lot of different sound aspects, physical concerns like comfort / durability / not blocking out sound. not being loud enough, and most importantly use cases

so there is no best headphone

[unborn gale]

Correct. But why the fuck would you recommend the opposite of what one could consider "best".

[elder thistle]

it depends on a lot of things, and the answer can be different for every person

I can track reverb tails on an m50x in metal music to the point that I can timestamp each reverb at a -12db point

without question I and maybe 2/3 of the users out there get a lot of detail and resolution and some stage from the m50x

there's just also a large portion of people where there's a huge difference in the received experience

[lean grove]

also there is a huge problem with your methodology for recommendations, jackson,
most noobies have no frame of reference for what good audio is and can not give you good information for what they want.

[elder thistle]

right now I'm talking to experienced people

I have a lot of experience now trying to bring audio concepts to people to the point where it's useful

[unique wind]

youre a professional yapper

560s and 6xx are both better than m50x

measurably and subjectively

[elder thistle]

I can also give preference and use case based advice without using any audiophile words and truly tying it down to what a random person knows well

[lean grove]

alternatively. you can just recommend something that 90% of people are almost guaranteed to like.

aim for the center of the target.

and occasionally you miss. but at least you can move forward from one of the best reference headphones out there. rather than trying to compensate for everything wrong with something like the m50x

[elder thistle]

not anymore measurably

[lean grove]

everyone has compared something to the 6x0. its pretty damn middle of the road. if its not gonna be exactly what you want its gonna be a damn good reference to get you to where you want to go

[elder thistle]

that's both not a guarantee and not hard to accomplish with most higher end headphones

[unique wind]

ew

[elder thistle]

it's a matter of optimizing it and getting twice your money's worth while avoiding problems

[elder thistle]

yeah frequency response is not what I'd call a strength of the hd560s

that 10k and 14k hole are very large and very real

imaging is damaged from the massive 2k dip

[unique wind]

what is the source of that measurement

[elder thistle]

and bass control is doodoo

iec711 clone + kb501x clone pinna

approved and refined by the headphones discord

[unique wind]

you?

[elder thistle]

yes

it has been duplicated a couple times now by other people

[lone lake]

Ye its my bad i should of specified its purely for gaming and has to be closed back for noise

[warm scarab]

and there isn't one that agrees with you

[elder thistle]

it's also nil's fault for jumping to an answer that fast

[unique wind]

if youre willing to use in ear monitors then those will be much better than closed back headphones in your budget range

[elder thistle]

but we can work with this now

[lean grove]

i gave the best answer with the given information

[lone lake]

See ive been looking at iems but ive never once found a pair of ear tips that fit

[elder thistle]

ok yes

[unique wind]

$150 gets you endgame IEMs, whereas you'll only get acceptable closed backs for that price

[elder thistle]

that's fair tbh

[lean grove]

have you tried foam tips?

[lone lake]

Na

[elder thistle]

still doesn't really result in any help though

[warm scarab]

try triple flange

[lone lake]

Wtf is that

[warm scarab]

takes a bit of getting used to though

[lean grove]

im not a mind reader. if someone doesnt give me information there's nothing i can do to fix that.

[warm scarab]

google

[lean grove]

usually hard to find triple flange tips for iems which arent designed for it

[elder thistle]

what kind of games are you playing? and do you know what you want to hear in them

[warm scarab]

stretch

thats what she said

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-jim-carrey-rino-booty-gif-19916132

[unique wind]

[warm scarab]

I would say advertising niche af headphones isn't better

[elder thistle]

I've consistently gotten bad results with telling where enemies are in all games I've tried with IEMs

[warm scarab]

honestly I agree on this subject with you

[lone lake]

I need to soundwhore the shit out of people in every fps

[warm scarab]

iems having good imaging is a meme

[elder thistle]

but my iems are the chu 2, quarks, zs10 pro, and westone um pro 30 gen 2 which sound the worst out of all of them

[warm scarab]

I've never heard iems with good imaging despite that's what everyone says

[lean grove]

skill issue ig

[unique wind]

meanwhile im the exact opposite

[elder thistle]

I think it's more related to picking up on quiet sounds

[unique wind]

enemy positioning is far easier for me to discern with iems than it is with headphones

[warm scarab]

because you use hifimans

hifimans have trash imaging anywhere not directly to the sides

you can't get worse than sundaras when it comes to imaging

[elder thistle]

also it should be mentioned that the kind of attention you can pay to sound will always come first before any headphone/headset/iem's abilities

[warm scarab]

even gaming headsets outdo it

[lone lake]

Also is a dac a must have for good audio or is it overkill

[warm scarab]

overkill for you

[unique wind]

a dac is required for you to have sound

but if you mean an external dac then that's unnecessary

[unborn gale]

probably overkill for you. If you really want an upgrade, just get an amp

[warm scarab]

this

which is also an overkill imo

[unique wind]

apple dongle is good enough for almost all iems and headphones

on its own

[warm scarab]

i wouldn't invest in either unless you break through like the 300$ barrier

[warm scarab]

dude wtf are we supposed interpret fro this

you realize we are still hearing this shit from our headphones and speakers

[unique wind]

imaging in that clip is very precise with my TRUTHEAR NOVAS

[elder thistle]

yes headphones is fine

that's system audio

[lean grove]

yeah i got the truthear hexas and i could hear exactly where things were coming from

[warm scarab]

if this was helping in anyway we'd record shit off of he1

for better audio

[lean grove]

thats what i do

[warm scarab]

"oh a tube amp? let me just download tube amp.mp3"

[lean grove]

they hate me at the sennheiser store

[unique wind]

you rockin iems lately instead of 6xx?

[lean grove]

6xx is shelved atm while i have my 800 out

i just had my hexas because i like the idea of plugging iems into a 60 watt power amp

[unique wind]

speaker amp tapped iems

[lean grove]

i dont know if this counts as a speaker tap

the power amp itself has a headphone out

[unique wind]

oh okay

[lean grove]

so idk if there's a voltage divider or whatever

[warm scarab]

step 1 buy warwick aperios
step 2 buy measurement rig
step 3 record all of your songs on measurement rig
step 4 return all of it
step 5 profit

problem audiophiles?

[unique wind]

i stopped regularly watching audio videos and talking in audio channels after i got my truthear nvoas

[elder thistle]

there were 4 sounds at the same time here

[unique wind]

ive just been enjoying music with my endgame iems

[warm scarab]

probably

[unique wind]

i do still watch erin sometimes

[warm scarab]

I only know that one really old niche af nad amp to have direct speaker tap connection

[unique wind]

speakers are still interesting to me but im done with headphones&iems since i hit endgame

[warm scarab]

and burson funk

[lean grove]

theres a new 'endgame' iem every couple months.

[unique wind]

afaik nova has yet to be dethroned

regardless of which response curve you prefer

[lean grove]

my vmv a1 has a direct speaker tap

[elder thistle]

a little bit of stage, strong + accurate imaging, and high separation of sounds are important for anyone to hear the enemy in this case

[warm scarab]

no resistors or dividers?

[lean grove]

uses digital pre to just reduce the input a ton

at the cost of a noise floor which is barely perceptible on iems

[warm scarab]

redude

[lean grove]

but this se-a7 has no noise floor on iems AT ALL

pretty swanky

[warm scarab]

me omw to redude my gay son

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-hungry-finding-food-dog-licking-couch-starving-gif-14558017

[warm scarab]

this is the best audiophile terminology yet

[elder thistle]

the most competitive closed back headphone I've tried for cs2 by far is the sennheiser hd280 pro

it just sucks to wear because it clamps so hard lol

[warm scarab]

define competitive

[unique wind]

one of these days ill get a longer desk so that i can throw speakers on my desk again and stop this wearable audio cope

[elder thistle]

hearing precise angles of footsteps and reloads, and hearing multiple sounds at once but making sense of them

[unique wind]

some day maybe eventually because im lazy and dont wanna spend money

[elder thistle]

the vertical aspect worked better for me than the mc450 and the hd560s

[warm scarab]

best imaging ive heard is r70x

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-man-gif-23343928

[warm scarab]

nothing vertical though

[unique wind]

pretty much yeah

who are the 31 people watching this

[lean grove]

probably music studios or producers on a tight budget

professionals

[elder thistle]

that's like $1000 of ebay fees just to use a webpage

why does it exist

who is this guy

[unique wind]

u right probably

[elder thistle]

I should sell written letters on ebay that just redirect someone to craigslist or something

for the item

[muted imp]

Never heard of a brand called JOYO, @amber pasture.

[amber pasture]

damm

[muted imp]

Also, Eva recommends these, which honestly from what I've learned about them is hard to beat.
https://www.amazon.ca/Koss-PortaPro-Headphones-with-Case/dp/B00001P4ZH/

[amber pasture]

no my apple earbuds are better

[muted imp]

Hardly believable, considering I've had those before and heard better than them. Lmao.

I also noticed you linked my pair of headphones in tech-chat 1.

Personally, I can say they're good. Would they work for you, I don't know.
It depends on just what you want out of them and are willing to tolerate, price aside.

[elder thistle]

apple earbuds being better than a porta pro is a valid opinion

there are not really any rules or objective metric for better sound quality, just trends

I may even agree with the apple earbuds thing given my experience with them vs the kph40

and ksc75

koss drivers have real limitations

[muted imp]

Well in my case then, I don't.
Though at the same time, my experiences with earbuds (especially Apple's) are that they really uncomfortable and their sound disappoints me.

This is mostly because of my experiences with on-ears and circumaurals that pretty much blew me away or gave a clearer sound stage than tiny drivers could give.
Also semi-open backs like my current cans (AKG K240s) and their sound stage.

Basically, my preference is clarity with neither bass or treble being overblown.

[elder thistle]

koss drivers have real advantages

too

I like me some m50x clones with useful earpads at this price

marginally outresolve hd560s in it's freetime

(if you're m50x compatible)

[digital trout]

@warm scarab Hey. Referencing back to our convo, I was just curious to ask you what you would personally pick between the HD560s and the K371? I want to make sure I'm picking the right long term set to monitor my vocals and potentially mix/master.

I'm torn because I desire to have a closed back set, but I also can't deny the benefits of open back.

[warm scarab]

prior personally

[digital trout]

I'm purchasing with the Amazon 3-month payment plan that was offered on the product page.

So that'll give me some flexibility with going over my intended budget.

[unborn gale]

what the fuck

why would you use a payment plan

get something used

[digital trout]

It's an interest free one.

[nova wagon]

https://headphones.com/products/sennheiser-hd-560s?_pos=1&_psq=hd+560s&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[digital trout]

Also, there were no used or open box ones available for a better price.

[unborn gale]

that's back ordered...

[digital trout]

Btw, the price you're seeing in the pic is in CAD. Not USD.

[nova wagon]

not noticed that

[digital trout]

Because it's the Amazon offered interest free one. Don't worry. I pay attention to these things. 😉

[unborn gale]

You still shouldn't be financing things you don't need even if it's interest free. Just a bad habit and way of thinking.

[digital trout]

I can keep track of my own finances just fine thank you very much. No need to make presumptuous subjective statements like that. Which was made on preconceptions you have about my spending habits mind you.

I know how to pay off my credit card in time. I'm a grown adult.

I do appreciate that you care about my financial well being though.

[inland bobcat]

Fixed this pos

Bridge rectifier

[digital trout]

@warm scarab I just cancelled my order on Amazon after discovering the headphones are cheaper on the official Sennheiser Canada shopping site.

Phew! I'm sure glad I caught that!

It is a little more than I wanted to pay, and there was no (as far as I could tell) interest free payment plan available to alleviate the cost (like available on Amazon), but I'm excited for these regardless.

[warm scarab]

👍

[elder thistle]

what have you done

you know most reviews in 2023 and all before them are outdated/wrong yes?

I would never mix on these

[digital trout]

Good for you. I'll just return them if I don't like them.

[elder thistle]

fair enough

still leaves you with a few big unknowns since these are probably still an overall upgrade from a $30 gaming headset or similar

and just how much more resolution and inst. separation can be had for less

[graceful canopy]

what’s a mic + headphone combo for about 100 (ik it’s low but i wanna see what the baseline is)

[warm scarab]

iems + a fifine is the game probably

[graceful canopy]

i prefer over-ear, the budget is highly flexible if that helps

[primal fulcrum]

I like the Zalman add-on mic, Zalman Everything.

[low swallow]

@honest sandal

[honest sandal]

👍

[lone lake]

anyone here used the blackshark v2 pro?

[tepid torrent]

yea

terrible

[livid ruin]

ewaste

i’d not even touch those

[lone lake]

whats a better option then

[pallid fern]

Any good headset recommendations for competitive games like counter strike from around 50-80 bucks? I had razer kraken x and it was good but after a year the headband cracked.

Im thinking hyperx cloud 2 but I heard they have gone down in quality recently

[warm scarab]

budget?

[lone lake]

£200 ideally but could go higher

[warm scarab]

does it need to be a headset

will headphones work

[lone lake]

i mean i guess lowkey wanted a better mic for a while

[warm scarab]

hd560s + fifine t669

[lone lake]

they are open back right?

[warm scarab]

yes

[lone lake]

ah i need closed back

[warm scarab]

its going to be a downgrade

your loss

[lone lake]

i mean idk cant do much about background noise

[warm scarab]

what sort of bg noise do you have?

[lone lake]

pc

[warm scarab]

how loud is your pc bro lmao

anyhow k371 if you need a closed back but

you aren't doing yourself a favor

[lone lake]

i only play games i dont really need anything crazy

[lone lake]

also theres no way its that bad considering most pros on any game where closed back

[warm scarab]

its not bad its simply not as good as open backs

also pros use sponsored headsets lol

not to mention a crowd of several thousand yelling is a better reason to use closed backs rather than pc noise

if you are going to be forced to wear cringe ass headsets in the tournament there is no reason to be using good quality ones to prepare for the tournament

and a lot of pros wear in ears under their headsets

[livid ruin]

alot of pros don’t have idea.

[lone lake]

ye anyone with a brain should know that but what i mean is people seem to make out like anything but open back is garbage

[livid ruin]

if you’re on budget open backs are usually better

[warm scarab]

open backs are objectively a lot better than closed backs under correct execution

[livid ruin]

they have more open soundstage due to how they work

[warm scarab]

closed backs are engineered in a faulty way inherently

you can make them not sound bad but using more suitable tech to begin with is a better idea

desktop vs laptop for gaming sort of argument

[warm scarab]

if on a budget above like 120$

below that is sort of a dead zone for opens

[livid ruin]

anyways, just don’t listen to those dumbass “pro’s” they don’t usually have any idea

because they don’t spend that much time researching for actually decent stuff

and the sponsor thing

[warm scarab]

most enthusiasts are way better at min maxxing peripherals than pros

@lone lake If your ultimatum is videogames i recommend dt880 250ohm

its like half open so way less noise goes into it

[livid ruin]

what’s your opinion on hd 681’s btw

20 buccs

[dull pike]

Is there any way to fix it cuz my current amp sucks and can only work with this setup

[livid ruin]

vs ksc75, or something else

[lone lake]

thats the only reason i asked about the blackshark v2 pro is because for games it seemed the most convenient

[livid ruin]

I wonder what are the options at under $40

[warm scarab]

not good

in ears are way better

[warm scarab]

nah

its just a shitty headset

[lone lake]

what about these https://www.amazon.co.uk/beyerdynamic-770-PRO-Studio-Headphones/dp/B0006NL5SM/ref=sr_1_7?sr=8-7

[livid ruin]

what if i want over ears/ headsets

[warm scarab]

just looks cool

dt880 250ohm slaps it

best imaging sub 350$

unless you are willing to go second hand

[lone lake]

nope

[warm scarab]

honestly you should save up, that part of the market is dreadful

[livid ruin]

the price of those conveniently insult me for what sound they offrer

[digital trout]

Question: Can anyone here confirm that the ALC 4080 sound card on B650 mobos can support up to 600 ohms through the back panel audio ports? My research suggests this is true, but I just want to make sure that I can get the full performance out of my HD 560S cans without having to buy an external amp or DAC right away.

[warm scarab]

or go for hd681 ig, can't say i recommend it

[warm scarab]

you don't "support" ohms

[livid ruin]

yes, but what would be the best option, apart from ksc75’s and hd681’s

[warm scarab]

ironically cloud 2

[livid ruin]

don’t like them tbh

[lone lake]

idk then i guess ill stick with what i have rn

[livid ruin]

I assume there’s nothing else

[digital trout]

May you please elaborate?

[warm scarab]

Im eating so a bit occupied but if you are asking for hd560s, yes it will work dw about it

[livid ruin]

I bought the $10 kz castors are I love them

but I kinda find them lacking in the mids

[warm scarab]

Ohms only make sense when you take sensitivity of the headphones into account

and hd560s is very sensitive

[livid ruin]

it’s kinds sad no manufactuner has made yet a near perfect sub $50 headphones.
or maybe there are but just hidden gems

[warm scarab]

budget too low

[livid ruin]

shouldn’t be impossible tho

[warm scarab]

i doubt you can find better than the superluxes if you dismiss iems

actually there is the kph30i but its too fragile

[livid ruin]

i kinda miss the bass extension tho

[digital trout]

Ah, okay. That makes sense.

[livid ruin]

I know i’m asking for too much

[warm scarab]

kph30i has some bass extension

ksc75 has like none

[livid ruin]

I assume average koss style

[warm scarab]

oh wait actually

koss ur40

i totally forgot about these

[livid ruin]

haven’t heard of the ur40’s yet

[warm scarab]

they are super niche

[digital trout]

I just looked those up. They look niche. Lol

[livid ruin]

what’s their biggest issue

nicheness

[warm scarab]

Its just not at a price point audiophiles care about

So people don't know of it much

[livid ruin]

hmmm

[warm scarab]

I'm actually not certain how good these are

[livid ruin]

alr, thx

[dense ermine]

Think of the pennies - maybe even a dollar, you might save by putting the money into an index fund and 0% financing amazon stuff!

Although i just re-read and they said "i can go overbudget because the finance" that sounds like a mistake but it aint my money i dont care

[graceful canopy]

good setup for bout 200usd? only preferences are overear and possibly a mic with a physical mute button

[young needle]

UA Volt 1, blue ember, and some moondrop chu 2

You can obviously sway it but, depends where you want the quality focused

If it has to be over ear maybe get a cheaper microphone and settle for some lower end sennheisers

[tawdry gale]

lowerend sennheisers arent good though

[young needle]

That's why I said if they have to be over ears

Then again, if it's just for monitoring he won't need much

Like cheap sennheisers in a podcast room aren't really meant for comfortability or higher end sound quality

[tawdry gale]

something like k361 is better

[young needle]

Or like the song mdrs you always see

[tawdry gale]

if they want more money on mic

[young needle]

For headphones?

The ua volt is already around 130

[tawdry gale]

its a headphone, yes

[young needle]

If around 200 is the limit the recording quality should come before his own listening experience

Depending on what he's doing

(And obviously I'm not gonna recommend a focusrite scarlet lol)

Speaking of podcast rooms, I forgot the price on the Sony mdrs

[young needle]

@graceful canopy my guy, my compadre

Me amigo

What the end goal?

[graceful canopy]

headphones over mic

all i do is game, listen to music and talk on discord

[tawdry gale]

so a headset

[graceful canopy]

nothing too serious

[tawdry gale]

wired or wireless?

closed or open?

[graceful canopy]

wired obviously

i’d be sacrificing a lot of quality with wireless

[young needle]

W mans

[young needle]

I wouldn't recommend a headset unless he's going up till like dt797s

[young needle]

Gotcha

[graceful canopy]

idm but i think open

[young needle]

If your environment is quiet open backs are fine but if you got a noisy pc or ac I'd prefer closed backs

[tawdry gale]

Pc38x

[haughty girder]

Wait I'm reading some L reccs

who recommends a Volt 1 for someone on a relatively tight budget 💀

[graceful canopy]

i need to hear if ppl are coming in my room or not

[young needle]

It depends what they're going for but if bros just discording that's alr

[graceful canopy]

i legit only use 1 headset cup so i can hear my environment

[haughty girder]

wait tbh you don't need a mic setup, just grab a PC38x if you're in the states

[graceful canopy]

i think open backs will help a lot

[tawdry gale]

But better thing than a headset is, ksc75 + lav mic

[graceful canopy]

UK

[haughty girder]

Volt 1 is expensive for a single input interface

Can you import?

[tawdry gale]

Ksc75 + lav mic

[graceful canopy]

shipping costs would be pricey

[graceful canopy]

i’ll look into that, thanks for the rec

[young needle]

Ik, but getting some of UA's plugins and other bundled software is nice

Besides, the rtl on it beats the focusrite scarlet's by a mile

[haughty girder]

I don't personally like the KSC75 bc of the bass rolloff, but FWIW it's really good

[tawdry gale]

I prefer it over hd560s

[haughty girder]

Well

the issue with HD560s for me is that... it's just kinda exists

It's pretty comfortable but that's about all that its good at

[tawdry gale]

Well ye 6xx just is priced too closely to it

[haughty girder]

yea...

[graceful canopy]

the koss ksc75?

[haughty girder]

yes

though, for me I'd take some iems and a mic

[graceful canopy]

i’m not a huge fan of iems

i prefer the comfort of over head way more

it’s almost comfort>quality for me

[young needle]

If he gets a lav mic with a decent enough frequency response we could just match it to something better

[haughty girder]

not really, actually.

[tawdry gale]

Yes really good

Best headphone under 199 usd

[young needle]

This doesn't tell me which is which

[haughty girder]

under a buffer size of 64 the Solo actually has lower than Volt

[haughty girder]

Volt; Scarlett

[young needle]

Depending on the computer, live processing at that speed might not be viable

[graceful canopy]

i mean thanks for the recommendation but over ear headphones are almost a necessity for me

[haughty girder]

???

[young needle]

At 256 is the main difference

[tawdry gale]

Hd560s + lav mic then

[haughty girder]

Live processing is exactly where you'd want low buffer

[young needle]

Obviously but if the computers not up to the task it's gonna falter

Especially if he decides to sync other equipment to it

[haughty girder]

Also, basically any entry level system nowadays can handle fairly complex effects and such

that said, I initially made fun of the Volt recommendation is solely down to its price

130 for an interface when 200 is the budget for both headphone and mic is absolutely insane

[graceful canopy]

130 for a headphones leaves me with 70 for a mic, i can get a usb or low end xlr mic for that price, no?

[haughty girder]

Stuff like the Arturia minifuse 1 is 99, can be found even cheaper than that

but realistically I'd just recommend a USB mic if they really needed an external mic, or a lavalier and a dongle

[tawdry gale]

How did u find hd560s for 130 usd

[young needle]

Sieren mini sounds pretty good

[graceful canopy]

amazon.co.uk

[haughty girder]

+1 for Seiren mini

[haughty girder]

Regional pricing