audio-tech

[steel escarp]

it was

[lean grove]

(I am joining you in giving information thats irrelevant to the argument)

[steel escarp]

if that was unit variance then it was quite a significant difference

[lean grove]

And you see that pretty plainly across a lot of other Sennheiser headphones

Idk if the hd800 is unique

But looking at two headphones with an entire lifetimes worth of different variables spread between them what you're gonna learn is that some headphones don't sound the same

You want to isolate for as many variables as possible.

Like for example, silent revisions. Plastic aging. Pads compressing.

Any and all of that could have been the answer to why they sound different

[steel escarp]

.

[lean grove]

.

[steel escarp]

fair

[elder thistle]

my burn brains

[unique wind]

i want to pressure wash my brain

[tender hawk]

What is your opinion on KRK Riot 5 Classics?
I do Film & Broadcast Production at University so I need some good speakers but cheap ish ones...
I think KRKs are about £100-£120 for 1

[lean grove]

https://www.kaliaudio.com/lp-unf

[tender hawk]

They are a little bit out of my budget they cost $310

[tired crown]

I’m wanting some iems I know nothing about them what are some good ones?

And other than the iems do I need anything else

[lean grove]

How much do you wanna spend

[tired crown]

Like $100?

Is that a fair price?

[lean grove]

Yeah

[tired crown]

If not I can to higher

[lean grove]

Truthear hexa would be my recommendation

[tired crown]

Do I need anything other than them?

[lean grove]

They're wired so whatever you plan on using them with should have an audio jack

But that's really it

Worst case scenario you can get a good dongle for like $10 to fix any hissing or noise issues

[tired crown]

I don’t have anything with a audio jack other than my pc

So what is something with a audio jack

[lean grove]

A dongle of some sort

[tired crown]

Do they come with the cable

[lean grove]

Yes.

Terminates in 3.5mm

[livid ruin]

how do I make my iems wireless w low latency for cheap ;-;

[unique wind]

is this for a PC?

[livid ruin]

yes

[unique wind]

you'll need a usb bluetooth transmitter/receiver that supports AptX Adaptive, like the Creative BT-W5

you also need bluetooth amplifiers for your IEMs that support AptX Adaptive, like the Fiio UTWS5

you can do bluetooth for cheap but if you want low latency then itll be like $200usd for those two parts

[livid ruin]

ouch

is there any way you can do it through 2.4ghz?

[unique wind]

i havent seen any way to do it myself

it's theoretically possible but i havent seen any consumer products that do that

i would love some wireless IEM ear hook amplifiers that come paired to a proprietary 2.4GHz dongle with super low latency

that would be endgame for me

[lean grove]

Watch it hiss

And have zero battery life

I'm sure there's some way you could mutilate a gaming headset to just get access to the DAC

[unique wind]

youre really praying on my downfall

[lean grove]

Every day

[livid ruin]

ig i’ll just stay wired

[unique wind]

[steel escarp]

@lean grove what 5 years of smoking does to a headphone driver

So this is the burn in everyone's talking about

[shadow stag]

uhhh, so should i go all behringer for audio interface and mic?

[warm scarab]

maybe?

[ionic ridge]

I've daily driven a Behringer UMC22 for a year or two and then (shortly after) a UMC404HD for years now since then and it's still going well.

I also had my original mic die and had to swap to using my spare Behringer C-1 condenser microphone and it's great too.

[shadow stag]

going for a xlr condenser mic and audio interface

pretty much those popular models

its good and solid for the price, yeah?

[ionic ridge]

Absolutely.

[shadow stag]

arm or desk mount better?

[ionic ridge]

I was using an arm mount but I ended up swapping to a desk mount. (As pictured above)

You can get a nicer, non-3D printed one, if that's more your speed.

[shadow stag]

im basically on no-budget land (as cheap as possible without big compromises)

[ionic ridge]

Go the Behringer Uphoria UM2.

It's a basic interface that will provide phantom power to any XLR codenser microphone you choose.

Pretty cheap too, from memory.

[shadow stag]

c1 for mic, and um2 for interface, got it

there is a bundle of behringer interface, mic and headphones

[ionic ridge]

What's the bundle got specifically?

[shadow stag]

c1, um2, hps5000

[ionic ridge]

If I'm being honest, save up a bit and go for the Audio Technica ATH-m40x.

Unless the bundle's cheaper than the microphone, the interface and the m40x cost separately.

[warm scarab]

arm

don't get a desk mount

absolutely

[shadow stag]

i can get a bundle of the mic and the interface and an arm for like almost 200k argentine pesos

rounding to 200 usd

[warm scarab]

unless you really like standing motionless in one place without ever laying back or switching positions a desk mount isn't a good idea

[ionic ridge]

I'd usually agree; However, the pickup pattern of the microphone will alleviate that.

You can absolutely lay back and switch positions and it won't be an issue.

Especially if you set the gain correctly.

[warm scarab]

if you like having to readjust gain each time you move then go ahead

[ionic ridge]

I don't?

[warm scarab]

the advised use distance is within a few centimeters at most for good reasons

[shadow stag]

im often just sitting straight, sometimes i lay back on my chair but not by much.
i also dont want the mic to obstruct my monitor view

[warm scarab]

the further you are the more it sounds like a gaming headset mic

the further you are higher background noise

at some point being further from your mic just makes it a worse choice than using a modmic or whatever

[warm scarab]

can be placed further away =/= a good idea to use it at that distance

[ionic ridge]

We'll agree to disagree then.

[warm scarab]

not to mention this doesn't say anything about the pickup pattern

[lean grove]

i disagree with you klaus. getting a desk arm is a really good decision

a simple desktop stand is gonna guarantee you a terrible sounding mic

idk what you're thinking suggesting that

[warm scarab]

that's literally what I advised

[ionic ridge]

I've been using a condenser microphone for about 5 years or more and know what it can and can't pickup. With a mix of both arm and desk mounts too, I'll add.

But hey? What do I know?

[shadow stag]

nils, dont you mean you disagree with beatspark?

[warm scarab]

"I have been using a condenser for 5 years"

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-buzz-lightyear-clones-copies-gif-22586949

[ionic ridge]

Fine. Do you want me to call it a cardioid?

[shadow stag]

the desktop mic setup could work if the stand is higher/closer to the head

[warm scarab]

desk stands are a good way of adding an object onto your workspace which you can accidentally hit or transmit sound via vibrations

and to occupy space where you can place other items

[lean grove]

that would imply that i would be agreeing with klaus, which i assure you, is not the case

[warm scarab]

whereas an arm does not necessarily occupy space on your desk, is a lot more versatile in where it can reach and is easier to tuck away

so idk your choice

[ionic ridge]

@shadow stag Go with what's right for you. I'd say that an arm or a desk mount will be fine if you set it up correctly.

[lean grove]

not in a million years would i agree with klaus on anything

anyways heres a sound clip proving you wrong klaus once and for all

[warm scarab]

you can use a mic without an arm if you set it up correctly

literally not the point

[ionic ridge]

If you put anything on your desk, it's going to take up space. That's how things work.

[warm scarab]

the arm literally hovers over your workspace

the other one goes into it

[shadow stag]

i'd rather have something for my mic to not interfer with my displays area of vision

[lean grove]

what if the thing taking up space is hovering above your desk and is very easy to push to the side

[warm scarab]

okay easy

lower the mic arm

push it down

no longer occupying vision

[shadow stag]

and its not very feasible to put the arm behind the display, on the side... maybe but its against the other desktop

[ionic ridge]

Wow. So much space lost.

[warm scarab]

are you seriously using the mic that far away from yourself

[lean grove]

and worst case scenario. if you have your mic on an arm further away from you, then it will still sound better than if its 2 inches from your keyboard

[ionic ridge]

Yes.

[warm scarab]

what switches

[lean grove]

mic is also less than in inch away from your speaker

[ionic ridge]

You don't need to be breathing down the throat of your microphone.

[warm scarab]

he probably doesn't (can't) use the speakers while using the mic

so not an issue

[ionic ridge]

It's not used in conjunction with my studio monitors. If I'm streaming any music production, it's done with headphones on.

[shadow stag]

i also unfortunately need the speakers fairly close to me as i use hearing aids

so its not good for monitoring uses in my case

[ionic ridge]

Lubed linear/red

[shadow stag]

oh, speaking of keyboards and noise/audio, which mechanical keyboard would you suggest as silent but also decent to type on?, preferably mechanical

[lean grove]

you can put your mic in a sewer pipe and submerge it in cooking oil too.

the benefit though is that it sounds better when you dont do that

and given the opportunity, i would highly recommend you not do either of those things

if you live in a sewer pipe i understand that you have limitations that you're working with and i would recommend maybe a different microphone

[warm scarab]

xlr mics are generally supposed to sound good

if you are planning on using them in unideal conditions

[ionic ridge]

I'm still cackling at this.

[warm scarab]

modmic antlion is always there

[shadow stag]

?

[ionic ridge]

I'm more worried about my over abundance of cooking oil.

[warm scarab]

if you set up the mic correctly (set it up close)

you don't need anything extra

lower gain and get closer to it

[lean grove]

i worry about that daily too. ive just got gallons and gallons of peanut oil and im too afraid to ask for help in case someone starts asking questions i cant answer

[ionic ridge]

You're a based individual. I like you.

[ionic ridge]

If you can, look for a brand called Royal Kludge.

[ionic ridge]

Also, don't listen to this guy. Test what works for you, whether that's a higher gain and sitting back a bit, or if it's closer to you with lower gain.

[warm scarab]

"test what works for you"

bro its a mic

whoever uses it gets the same result

[shadow stag]

the environment might change things

[ionic ridge]

It's okay to be wrong. I promise.

[ionic ridge]

Most definitely.

[warm scarab]

the dude who has the mic at half a meter should take example of this

directly next to a speaker's driver

[warm scarab]

yeah if you cared about resonance

or lived in a cave

prior concerns people who need quality recordings

latter concerns cavemen

its a marginal difference

but setting the mic up far with high gain ensures more background noise while vice versa promises the opposite outcome

while having a better low end of your voice at that

[ionic ridge]

I'm sorry, I didn't realise we wanted to make sure that Megatron was being recorded properly.

That's on me.

[warm scarab]

do you know me

I was called megatron like maybe 3-4 years back what the fuck

what did I do to you to make an impression this lasting

[ionic ridge]

No. No I do not.

I was in the LTT Discord many years ago but left.

I legit only came back last night.

[warm scarab]

I don't think I was ever called megatron in ltt

it was only a server nickname in sg

[ionic ridge]

This is 120% a coincidence then.

I'm just a fan of Transformers and he was the quickest reference I had to throw.

[warm scarab]

anyhow if you are inconvenienced by the act of having a mic close to yourself for better quality audio quality then xlr isn't for you @shadow stag

just buy one of these

endless convenience

sounds alright

and you wont need to worry about keyboard noise

[shadow stag]

what's the cost of that?

[warm scarab]

i don't know

[ionic ridge]

I'm afraid this would have to be closer than half a meter away.

[shadow stag]

im a bit cramped when it comes to desktop space

[warm scarab]

you can always buy some random lavalier mic for like 5-10$

attach it to your clothes or headphone

[shadow stag]

i have some random cheap small desktop mic

[warm scarab]

well its not a random lavalier mic

you lose

[shadow stag]

my computer doesnt have bluetooth nor wifi

its a desktop from 2014

[warm scarab]

yes

its a wired lavalier mic?

[shadow stag]

oh, that's a wired lavalier mic?

[warm scarab]

no that's modmic antlion

idk why you understood my reference to a lavalier mic as a wireless one

is what I was trying to say

[shadow stag]

oh

sorry

[warm scarab]

better be

here lav mic

attach it near your mouth either onto clothing or to your headphones

[shadow stag]

there are lav wireless mics too

[warm scarab]

yeah

i think they would be inconvenient for your use case unless you have wireless headphones

[shadow stag]

any random lavalier will do?

[warm scarab]

if its a wired one you can just weave the lav mic wire to the headset wire

[shadow stag]

they're omnidirectional apparently

[warm scarab]

make it like one thicker wire

[shadow stag]

i dont use headphones due to hearing aids

[warm scarab]

id just grab any cheap lav from local sources

return if its bad sounding

[warm scarab]

oh

while a lav mic would sound good and be convenient you may find it annoying to have something on your collar

i personally find a mic on an arm more convenient

[shadow stag]

okay...

[warm scarab]

but a lav mic is a super economic choice and they sound good as well without much knowledge

[shadow stag]

are there small arms?

[warm scarab]

dimensions are on websites sort of

there are like undermounted mic arms hang on

[shadow stag]

because the desk space im working with is just half desk of 1 arm worth

so it would be too tight to put

[warm scarab]

shit like this

goes under your monitor

[shadow stag]

comes from under the monitor?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[shadow stag]

hmm could work

[warm scarab]

i like the ones that go over better but its a good option if you can't do that

[shadow stag]

are there ones that go over without obstructing the monitor vision area?

i guess i can do that

do you need a picture of the desk space im working with?

[warm scarab]

go ahead

[shadow stag]

might be a little dark

[warm scarab]

you don't have to mount the arm on your desk

if you have any ledge or shelf you can use that

i got mine mounted to a bookshelf to my right

[shadow stag]

not really, only two desks on this side

[warm scarab]

mount it on the other if you want

[shadow stag]

and im thinking putting the arm coming from the right side of the display

[warm scarab]

could work

how do you plan on fitting the speakers into this

the 305p

in case you got them

[shadow stag]

i guess i'll hook it on the other desk and bring it from there

no havent gotten them and thats uhh, quite the complicated matter

because i want them close to my left ear

[warm scarab]

epic

ty discord

[shadow stag]

discord only supports standard h264

[warm scarab]

fuckers still don't support 265

in 2024

no wonder these dumbasses keep downgrading their mobile app

[shadow stag]

lol

uhh, for field sampling portable mics what would you recommend?

[warm scarab]

anyways just watch the video

i don't think you understand the maneuvering ability of an arm

[shadow stag]

i kind of do/see it

[warm scarab]

you can alternatively

get a really big mic arm

and mount it on the desk part behind your monitor

make it go over the monitor

this will stop you from moving the mic towards yourself or towards the wall but if you are fine with that, it could help

you can just rotate it towards the wall when you are done

[shadow stag]

im picturing putting the arm on the right and making it come from the right, but i have a display at the front left side of the right desk so it might hit it but i guess it'll work a bit tighter but will work

[shadow stag]

for video preview, have to use a player because otherwise it'll just download in the browser lol

[warm scarab]

you can do something like this

its in 2d so it looks like its obscuring the monitor vision but you can put the mic to the side of your face

[shadow stag]

yeah i know

i feel maybe im coming off as dumber than what i am

im capable of picturing things

[shadow stag]

thats exactly my thought for behind the monitor, but if its coming from the right side it doesnt need the monitor height

[warm scarab]

your call man

[warm scarab]

idk you didn't say anything approving so i presumed you didnt lmao

[shadow stag]

Sorry

[warm scarab]

np its on me too

[shadow stag]

i tend to be pretty vocal about my thoughts but i guess not always

anyways, it could either go overhead from the front or head level from the right

is it better upright or upside down?

[warm scarab]

upside down generally works better since its not against gravity

[shadow stag]

huh

[warm scarab]

but you can always tighten the yoke

on the mic swivel thing

[shadow stag]

hmm i see

[warm scarab]

also you don't need the mic infront of your mouth

the side also works

[shadow stag]

well, i guess a $~200 bundle is good enough?

[warm scarab]

overpriced but you do live in argentina

[shadow stag]

yeah it what it is

hold on let me tell you the individual prices

[warm scarab]

you can also point the mic like on a horizontal line

[shadow stag]

so put the mic sideways as well?

[warm scarab]

mic is on a yoke so you can generally adjust it however you want

[shadow stag]

the heft of the cost comes from the interface lol

the mic alone is about the same price as the interface

[ionic ridge]

Or, depending on your budget:

[warm scarab]

the 1st idea I actually sort of dig

[ionic ridge]

Of course you would.

[shadow stag]

if its mounted on the chair, it can be a cool idea

[warm scarab]

until you run over the wire

[shadow stag]

how long is the mic wire?

[warm scarab]

however long you buy it

[ionic ridge]

None of you are considering Dave. He needs this boom mic job.

[shadow stag]

lol

uhh, what would you suggest for instruments? shure sm7b?

[warm scarab]

no

[shadow stag]

its good at least that im almost set in the c1 and um2 combo

[warm scarab]

i don't recommend sm7b under any circumstances unless you get a big studio to pay for it

and its like completely free to you

[shadow stag]

is it like the enterprise mic?

[ionic ridge]

The C1 will be perfect for your use case.

[warm scarab]

its a mic that's marginally better than 20$ ones

[shadow stag]

i mainly want it for voice and sampling stuff

[warm scarab]

you would need to buy a cloudlifter

no fucking way the um2 is going to run that insensitive shit

[shadow stag]

huh

[warm scarab]

stick to the c1 its good, if you want to alter the sound to an sm7b-ish way just eq

[shadow stag]

so the interface wont do?

or wdym

[warm scarab]

sm7b is like comedically insensitive

[shadow stag]

ohh i see

[warm scarab]

unless you have a really powerful interface

or a cloudlifter

you can't run it comfortably

[shadow stag]

uhh if you know off the top of your head, how much the um2 and c1 goes for?

[warm scarab]

um2 is like 40-50$

c1 is also that much

[shadow stag]

rip my country prices

[ionic ridge]

I wouldn't be able to give an accurate price. I live in Australia.

[warm scarab]

shouldn't pass 100$ in total

[shadow stag]

in here its like 125k-145k each

[warm scarab]

whats that in like

normal currencies

[shadow stag]

argentine pesos

so like uhh, i think a dollar is like ~800 pesos

let me check

[warm scarab]

145k is 166usd

bro what the fuck

[shadow stag]

blue dollar is 1010 pesos

[warm scarab]

you are paying 288$ for a c1 + um2

at minimum

[shadow stag]

https://www.cronista.com/MercadosOnline/dolar.html

[ionic ridge]

Internal product valuation is different from country to country.

[shadow stag]

you're dealing with the worst country economy on the whole planet

so yeah, unfortunately mercadolibre for this shit is like double/triple the price

[warm scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/jinki948-cat-shocked-shocked-face-shock-gif-22585372

[warm scarab]

this one bow I wanted to buy

it had a 25x price upmark

i was going to set the fucker's office on fire

[shadow stag]

anyways if you want to check how fucked it is, look at that site, dont trust google for the conversion to pesos

[warm scarab]

what is the accurate translation of how much you are paying

[shadow stag]

the dolar blue one is mostly what counts

these are the important ones, the one on the right is the most used one in the market, the other is the official one that google shows i think

also google is outdated

well its maybe a average of the buy and sell prices

just know that its a little worse fwiw

anyways the point is

[warm scarab]

use the 400$ on a boat to migrating into another country bro

[shadow stag]

im paying like double because of the recouping the seller needs to make compared to what he might've paid for importing the product

[warm scarab]

drop the mic its not for you

[warm scarab]

check how much m track solo costs, buy it if its cheaper

[shadow stag]

ok, whats the next best alternative for a xlr condenser mic?

[warm scarab]

not a condenser but

xm8500

20$

not a beautiful mic but it sounds pretty damn alright

[shadow stag]

the mtrack solo is 135k, 148k or worse on mercadolibre

wait, the duo is about the same price lol

the 135k is the duo, and thats likely in bank dollars instead of blue

[warm scarab]

not worth grab um2

[shadow stag]

i see more listings of the duo

[warm scarab]

um2 is built a bit more reliably

[shadow stag]

for the mic, xm8500?

[warm scarab]

yeah

its a lot less sensitive than the c1 so you can't use it at a distance

but the um2 can still drive it

[shadow stag]

but i wanted a condenser mic...?

[warm scarab]

what for?

[shadow stag]

for singing, are dynamics better?

[warm scarab]

its subjective really

I like condensers better for everything

[shadow stag]

singing, voice, sampling instruments

[warm scarab]

but audio industry likes dynamics a lot

i don't know why nor do i care to find out

[warm scarab]

you can demo the mics online

actually don't

[shadow stag]

i guess because the dynamics are cheaper or something?

[warm scarab]

knowing your speakers

[warm scarab]

nah not really

xm8500 is just anomalously cheap

the industry standard dynamics are like several thousand dollars in

the neumann something

u87

[shadow stag]

65k with the pipette and the threaded adapter and its case and a 5mt xlr cable

[warm scarab]

pipette?

[shadow stag]

the thingy you snap the mic onto for holding

[warm scarab]

they sell that seperately?

tf

[shadow stag]

uh, no, it comes with that

its the included accessories

anyways, im seeing it kinda starting at 54k, 56k and going 64k-68k

or worse, seen a 81k listing lol

well then

um2 and xm8500?

what if i want a condenser?

should i use a dynamic one for stage practice as well?

[warm scarab]

don't think you got options apart from c1 when it comes to a budget condenser

ask for second opinions in podcastage if you want

they would probably tell you to buy the xm8500 though

they really hate the c1

[shadow stag]

im at the 100 discord servers limit

[warm scarab]

i don't believe you have 100 servers you want to be in

[shadow stag]

yes and no, i dont need some right now actually but i want to stay in them for future reasons

[warm scarab]

works

[shadow stag]

it would be so i get used to whats usually available in stages

[warm scarab]

generally condensers aren't used at stages to my knowledge

at least ive never seen someone use it but then again I haven't seen that many guys on stage

[shadow stag]

i know, condensers are more of a streamer/home/studio thing?

[warm scarab]

you are thinking way too much about this dynamic/condenser thing

mic is mic

condensers generally better response to treble and are more easily powered

dynamics don't

[shadow stag]

do i go overhead or head-level on the side as far as arm goes?

[warm scarab]

idk man whatever you want

like

just point the mic towards your mouth

[shadow stag]

okay sorry for asking for personal preference things

[warm scarab]

at a distance ideally under 10cm

and it works

like i said I put my mice to the side of my head

or just point it directly to my mouth from the side on a horizontal line form

[ionic ridge]

Or, 50cm with a condenser, which also works completely fine.

[shadow stag]

not a good idea to scroll through reddit posts like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/audioengineering/comments/untwmx/i_dont_get_it_why_are_dynamic_mics_better_than/

[warm scarab]

even rode says between 10-20cm

[ionic ridge]

It's okay for real world testing to show otherwise.

[warm scarab]

reddit shit generally derails me so i don't know, i wouldn't

but ill say again that you are overthinking the subject

[shadow stag]

fair enough

should i let it sit?

[warm scarab]

id grab the xm8500 for being more economic

grab the c1 if you want a condenser and you want it to look nicer

i personally overall like the c1 better but not if the mics each costed 3x the price

[shadow stag]

alright

[elder thistle]

he sounds further away with the desk stand

not that that isn't a common consequence of using a desk stand

but if he was closer in this case, it'd sound similar

[agile oyster]

Just finished routing and connecting these custom Scanspeak monitors after building/installing some treatment

It's a university space

[lean grove]

@unique wind i got a new amp with a VU meter. according to it im using around 10-100mW when im listening to music at my desk

[unique wind]

nice, vu meters are pretty

[lean grove]

i cant really see them from the angle im sitting at, unfortunately

but man. who needs power. i should just be plugging my speakers into a headphone amp.

[unique wind]

real, power requirements are so drastically overrated

ive been using my apple dongle for many months now

[lean grove]

as a speaker amp?

[unique wind]

no lmao

iems/headphones

[unique wind]

[agile oyster]

I use a pair of $80 fosi amps to power the monitors I built...

[lean grove]

you're also like 10 feet away

[agile oyster]

Almost $1200 in drivers being powered by an ultra budget option

My monitors are like 0.8m from my listening position

[lean grove]

oh you're not talking about the ones you posted just now

ive got some full range speakers about a meter away and if i can trust my VU meter then at 1 watt they're louder than id ever be listening

[agile oyster]

Yeah I was refering to my home desk speakers

[lean grove]

presumably you're doing some EQ too?

[agile oyster]

Most drivers have sensitivities around 85-95dB

that's measured at 1W/1M

[lean grove]

yes i am aware

[agile oyster]

Yeah did EQ after alligning driver phase and tuning crossover

my preferred listening level is around 67dB

[frosty socket]

i need help with my mic

[plush hedge]

elaborate...

[forest lark]

can you give any details at all on what your setup is?

[frosty socket]

yeah calm i got u ill send apic even gimme a sec

i got a bm800 mic which i bought and the mic aint detecting on my pc

i heard some ppl said i need a power spply but ive seen some youtube videos w/o a power supply and they were using it just fine u feel me

i tried connecting it on my mac (the port it output only) and it detected it

obviously yeah i just bought this mic like a couple hours ago

[frosty socket]

@forest lark

[forest lark]

What audio interface are you using?

are you just plugging it in using an XLR to 3.5mm TRS balanced cable?

condenser mics require what's called "phantom power", which is 48V power supplied to charge the diaphragm and power any active electronics inside (likely none in this specific microphone)

[frosty socket]

yes

[forest lark]

secondly that mic would be outputting a "mic level" signal, which compared to the "line level" signal that your computer would typically be expecting through a 3.5mm input cable is a lot quieter and likely would not get picked up without using an external preamp

[frosty socket]

so whats the fix, do i buy a phantom power? or maybe look into returning it and buying a usb mic instead?

[forest lark]

there are really two main options, buy an audio interface that can supply the phantom power and then just connect the mic into that using an XLR cable, or return the mic and get a USB mic. there are relatively inexpensive audio interfaces like the UMC22 from behringer, and this option would allow for much better upgradability in the future, but may be more expensive than returning it and buying a USB mic in the same price range.

holy! what weighting are you using for that?

[forest lark]

technically you could also use a phantom power supply but that would be likely more expensive than a cheap audio interface, and it would likely be far less good sounding using your mobo ADC, and it likely also wouldn't produce a good enough signal without the preamp and ADC of a dedicated interface.

[granite drum]

anyone experience with Motu M2 usb audio interfaces ? (i currently have a focusrite i2i, and its as good as trashed so looking to buy a new one but i really missed one key feature in the i2i) im mostly intrested in finding out if the headphone output can be a seperate channel then the main output , this cannot be done with the i2i (you can monitor the inputs directly wich is nice for listening while talking eg, but id like to have it be a seperate channel to the pc aswell , so i can overlay whatever i whish to the headphones that doesnt go to the main outputs.

[lean grove]

Sounds like a good question for Motu support

[granite drum]

i dont think thats dB spl ? that or your device needs recallibration (or you standing next to a jetengine with afterburner?)

[granite drum]

yeah ive been looking at the spec sheets and its still not clear to me , it looks like it is , but that might also be a marketing trick ofc

ive also asked bing search and it confirms two seperate channels but how much can one trust that 😄

[frosty socket]

damn alright i just ordered the amazon return

[granite drum]

onboard audio is heavely dependant on whats where in your pc, even the case for good dedicated cards , if i use my SB X-Fi and place it in the 1x slot above the gfx card or in the bottom one above the psu , i get screetching noices whenever there is white to be displayed on the screen , or when i demand or lessen powerdraw... while if i put it in a slot in the middle inbetween a nvme expansion card and the wifi card , its just fine

[forest lark]

yes unfortunately that setup you showed doesnt have all the required components, however there are a wide number of relatively inexpensive good sounding USB mics

my go-to place for more budget USB mics would be a youtube channel like Harris Heller's https://www.youtube.com/@Senpai

[frosty socket]

where im from i just get where im served there isnt much on the market for me to choose from

[granite drum]

next problem find an open motu support page that isnt behind a login page for users with registered products. (my feat actually stems from that when its a sperate channel for 90% of users that will suffice and not require them buying the m6 that is 500euros compared to only 250

[frosty socket]

apparently with the b800 theres loads of other brands that distribute the product and one of omy friends have it and it works without the phantom power supply

i think they got the one that has it already built in

[forest lark]

to be honest that makes very little sense to me how they would build it in without just having to basically make it a USB mic or adding a whole external power supply brick and connector

[frosty socket]

there is another version of the product with the phantom included for double the price, but i thought this one would just work, atp i might just buy the one my friend has

mine has the name zingyou logo on it and he dosent

[forest lark]

In any audio chain you will need a microphone, (which will require 48V phantom power if it is a condenser mic) a preamp (USB mics will have this built in often times as well as condenser mics which is one reason for the phantom power) and an ADC (again USB mics include this, but so does your motherboard or audio interface)

if any of those are missing then you will not be able to get sound through properly

since you are missing the phantom power, the preamp circuitry in the microphone isnt recieving power and the capsule in the condenser mic isnt being charged like it has to to function.

this isnt a limitation on dynamic mics although dynamic mics will require much more gain

[warm scarab]

do that

and don't buy random stuff you can't even run that mic

[frosty socket]

his mic sounds real good at its like 10 pound which works real well w me u feel me

im just tryna advance from the headset mic

[warm scarab]

you need an audio interface or a phantom power provider in any case

which is more than 10 pounds

[frosty socket]

for any mic that isnt usb?

[warm scarab]

for a condenser

[frosty socket]

how come my friend just plugged it straight into the pc and its working just fine

[warm scarab]

for dynamics you don't need it to have audio

but it will generally be so bad you may as well go usb

[warm scarab]

he probably has the USB version

[frosty socket]

nah aux

[warm scarab]

or got a phantom power supply with it

[frosty socket]

no phantom power supply either

[warm scarab]

bruh its a condenser you can't run it without 48v

[frosty socket]

he told me he just pluggd into the aux straight into the pc and it works

[warm scarab]

its either a dynamic mic in the shape of a bm800

or he isn't telling the entire story

[frosty socket]

ive been to his house b4

ill call him again and confirm

[warm scarab]

in any case there are a ton of usb condensers

go get a t669

im off to bouldering ill catch you later

[supple robin]

thats usb

[forest lark]

again that's an XLR mic which claims to be a condenser mic, and hence it WILL require phantom power. I am not 100% sure but i do doubt that that little USB audio interface will provide it

[supple robin]

oh no

yeah dont do xlr to 3.5mm just go usb

that title is a lie

[forest lark]

it says USB condenser in the title but it has an XLR cable plugged into it

[supple robin]

yeah i noticed

[forest lark]

very confusing for 3am me but yes

[supple robin]

https://www.amazon.eg/sp?language=en&ie=UTF8&seller=A3Q74CL0ZIDE7L&asin=B0CZJ98NYW&ref_=dp_merchant_link&isAmazonFulfilled=1

also seller has lot more 1 stars than 5

[forest lark]

additionally that specific product has ZERO reviews which is always a red flag to consider

I understand that importing products into egypt is traditionally very difficult, but I've been able to find even physical stores that stock products from more well known companies in the music space (including the cheap but morally dubious behringer)

[warm scarab]

Yes it is but go for a t669 instead

its a better mic

[frosty socket]

its like 3x the price

or 4x

[warm scarab]

bad local pricing

[frosty socket]

true

waiting for delivery agent to come soon so i can return and ill try out the other one

[granite drum]

well you cant preamp usb

[forest lark]

USB mics have an integrated preamp powered by the bus power

I’m not sure cause I’m not amazing at deciphering Amazon but there will be plenty of people here who can help better than me, it seems like that would work but I’m not 100% sure about the seller

They don’t seem to have any reviews

[granite drum]

i meant [card][pream/mixtable/monitors]-[system] , preamp as in you cant get anyting in between usb and the pc

but your prolly right , with usb c 48v eg should be doable

[forest lark]

USB powered mics usually run their electronics off 5V USB 2.0 power, and just transform that up for the capsule if necessary

[granite drum]

technically you cant transform dc, ist called stepping up :p but i get what you mean. my i2i does the same even if i have never used the 48v , because its usb 1 -A , wich is limited to 800ma (dunno how they are gonna drive both myheadphones and the main out , and on top of that a mic...

think its called jacobs ladder btw ... atleast one of the ways of stepping up dc

shoot me its a marx generator derivative ,not a jacobs ladder 😦

[forest lark]

I think far more often in electronics engineering we will use are switching converters

[granite drum]

i mean the capacitor , diode load cycle thing , it has a specific name but its been since 2007 that i prolly have used that name ... alteast i wasnt to far of

[forest lark]

I think the circuit that you're referring to is a jacobs ladder amplifier?

[granite drum]

and my brain is slowly rotting aswerll

maybe i just confuse the thing with jacobs ladder because if you physically build it it looks mor or less like a ladder (out of components not on a pcb ofc)

[forest lark]

one thing to note is that the amplifier used in a jacobs ladder is typically an AC voltage multiplier

[granite drum]

another way to step up the voltage (but also only on ac , but my favorite :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntIBDVCfATA if not just for the fact they were in RA2 :p

[granite drum]

yeah its not jacobs ladder but it looks like it but then with all components ...

[forest lark]

yes I think this is the circuit you are talking about?

but again this has AC voltage across the left poles

[forest lark]

believe it or not, that exact product was just featured in the most recent LTT video, so I think it should be fine cause the amazon seller is likely just dropshipping it

considering that it's the same as the aliexpress product photos

you can evaluate sound quality based on that audio sample

i'll find a clip on youtube

https://youtube.com/watch?v=whz_uXY2xFw&t=1125

[glass wolf]

AirPods Max vs xm5s

For gaming specifically

[livid ruin]

mobile gaming or pc gaming?

[haughty girder]

Oh nahhhh

That interface is a piece of garbage

[haughty girder]

They most certainly are, it's still not worth it

you get what you pay for

and when you're getting such a cheap interface AND mic

the quality for both are literally rock bottom

[forest lark]

Again I think just have a look at the quality of that in the video

[haughty girder]

Motu M2 does not have independant outputs, Motu M4 and Scarlett 4i4 (most 4 in 4 out interfaces) do though

[forest lark]

If you’re ok with that then go for it but there is very little room to upgrade in the future

[granite drum]

yeah could have figured it would be a cash grab , they and they werent gonna give the cheaper model a feature that could warrant a more expensive model

its a shame actually because the or 4 or 6 are also quite a bit larger, and i'd rather have something smaller space is limited as it is , with a laptop and 2 midicontrollers , then a mixer , and an audio interface

[haughty girder]

Well it's not actually more expensive less expensive but rather it's a niche feature for a 1/2 input interface

far easier to build an interface around a single connected output rather than having to also build in circuitry to have to mix between multiple dacs

[granite drum]

if you use the headphones out for your headphones and the main out to go to the mixer, id like something else in my headphones ,(like only the kicks and base then i can leave them at full volume hangin around my neck , or a room mic so i can hear audience and have a taste of the atmosphere aswell if theyre on

[granite drum]

could have been the same dac only a 2xstereo dac and sirquitry to switch is just a mosfet switch to switch between internal monitor and pc monitor

[haughty girder]

Back when the Wan show was hosted virtually where Luke and Linus were on a call, Linus would actually just have airpods pros inside of his HD600...

[haughty girder]

Not quite

[granite drum]

yeah i tought of that aswell but , then id have to switch the inearbuds and the headphones if i want to reverse it

[haughty girder]

actually I guess you could delegate the mixing to the host computer...

[granite drum]

mixer is usally provided , and i plug in to the mixer , and set it at a level i like rest i do in ableton

[haughty girder]

but that's the thing

an interface isn't a mixer

like what was it

MG12XU

that's what you'd be looking for if you're trying separate inputs to different channels

Wait couldn't you just use a different output and just have ableton output separately anyways?

I'm not too familiar with Ableton but I assume it's similar to logic pro or reaper

[haughty girder]

just do this

skip the headphone output in the interface

[granite drum]

well yess but id rather use the headphones out in the front notmess ing with the back

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-scared-bathroom-poop-gif-834967362291863839

[granite drum]

first of all my laptop audio card cannot drive my headphones at full volume , i kind of want to use 1 interface such that i can disable the rest, and asio cant get fffed up

[haughty girder]

You can use a dongle

also if you use a dongle you're not using asio

so asio is still reserved for interface which is fine

[granite drum]

asio is a requirement , windows sound subsystem sucks monkey balls and is way way to slow

id be moving a midi slider and hear the effect 5 seconds later

[haughty girder]

Wait

so your headphones are for monitoring...?

now I'm confused

[granite drum]

yes, midi controller even if usb also has latency but the windows audio subsystem uses 512samples of buffer , on top of the hardware buffer of the soundcard. you can calculate how much ms lsatency that is but if i use asio i can keep it below 2ms and not have buffer underuns

try cutting a base on the bass using a knob with 0.5s delay ,... impossible

[haughty girder]

I mean you can't really tell with just that bc the round trip latency of different host and devices are also diff...

[granite drum]

you can tell , pretty easely, as you can calculate each stage and what it uses , pretty easy to calculate

and asio lets you set buffer sizes per device

[haughty girder]

you can't, you have to measure it

and any latency from audio driver goes on top of that

[granite drum]

asio IS the audio driver

[haughty girder]

it is, and so is WDM or MME or whatever else you decide to use

that's not the point

[granite drum]

and you can measusre it aswell, but im fairly certain that if i set my buffer to 8 samples and im playing at 48000 samples a second , i get about 8/48ms of latency at that stage

[haughty girder]

usb round trip latency is a physical attribute of the device

https://beta.prismsound.com/ufaqs/how-do-i-measure-the-round-trip-latency/

[granite drum]

that is not significat compared to any buffersizes

[haughty girder]

it can be insignificant, but I've seen values higher than 8ms

[granite drum]

ever noticed that if you use the listen to function of windows audio , you suddenly cant talk anymore because of the latency... well thats the same for midi input, addig 0.1ms to that of the usb latency is not that impactfull

[haughty girder]

anything past 4 is already noticeable

wait here's this

IXO22:

[granite drum]

since the audio also have to travvel in the room , that also adds latency in the end but its also not that significant , since lets say you pull down the volume of the bass as long as you can sync that to 1/4 of a beat your body does not notice and your motions go perfectly in sink to what you expect to hear

[granite drum]

thats actually what i was saying about buffersize being significant , usb latency isnt

windows audio is the 512samples , asio can set (my previous) upto 4 samples

[haughty girder]

4i4:

[granite drum]

and you can further reduce that by increasing the sample rate of the audio your playing

[haughty girder]

E2x2

[haughty girder]

it's not USB latency. For usb 2.0 the polling rate measures out to be .125ms of latency

that doesn't matter

[granite drum]

thats what i said . does not matter

[haughty girder]

but notice how at the same buffer size different interfaces have different round trip latencies

[granite drum]

yeah i saw , but ... since that is rountrip latency , your also dependant on the buffersize of the internal recorder , not only on the buffersize of the dac .. wich might be different , and possibly not even configurable

my point being that if you use asio , you get those values, and as long as they arent to high there is no real problem... but a dongle your not using asio as you said so theres no point in using that since your stuck with 512samples of buffer by the windows audio subsystem alone

[haughty girder]

I didn't know you were going to use it for monitoring a mix

I thought you were just using as a general playback device

which it wouldn't matter at all

[granite drum]

ah :p that explains allot 😄

[haughty girder]

Yea so in that case.... either a 4i4/Motu m4 or you're SOL

[granite drum]

yeah i have a sbxfi aswell as a focusrite 2i2 (wich is now broken) and onboard on my main rig , im prettty well set there for watching movies. also 2x800w speakers attached to it 😄

[haughty girder]

That said, the M4 is actually not that much larger than the M2-

[haughty girder]

wait what's broken on the 2i2?

[granite drum]

the headphone jack is broken of the pcb internally and the pcb is cracked at that place aswell

[haughty girder]

how the balls

[granite drum]

and yes that happens if it drops and falls withthe headphones still plugged in full on its face so everything gets pushed in

[haughty girder]

oh.

uhhh

scrape off the coating over the traces solder wires to the traces then connect to a female 3.5mm plug

leave it hanging out the front

I dunno though I don't think anything really exists for what you want it to do-

[granite drum]

kindof it does , my numark mixdj console pro or something actually has that 😄

but i switched to using an apc40

[haughty girder]

well

a mixing board hopefully has it

but I meant like in the size of a 2i2

[kind hawk]

hey im tryna buy some samsung galaxy buds FE and theres two listings with a significant price difference are these the same?

[nova wagon]

check who's the seller

[nova wagon]

the cheaper one is not sold by amazon so I would avoid it

[frosty socket]

ive watched this guy called norca make multiple reviews on the mic and optimizing it to make it sound better, and after he modified a load of things it sounded actually really decent

im aware it sounds terrible stock

but its 100% better than what i have right now and its my cheapest and most viable option

[supple robin]

probably just a different region version

[elder thistle]

that's one of the nice things with the motu's

[grave viper]

I have apple airpods gen 3 and i just got a new pc like a month ago and i cant connect my aipods to my pc like my airpods wont appear in the bluetooth thing

[scenic thicket]

How do I fix this?

[lyric glacier]

yo guys i just got my pc38x's in and i wanna say thanks for reccomending these, these are absolutely great.

[hearty pollen]

would you consider the pc38x quiet?

ive heard some people having the issue of the pc38x being quiet

[lyric glacier]

not at all, plugged directly into my mobo and is quite loud

does not need much to power

i think its easy to power at only like 28 ohms

for some games i even need to turn down the volume because my last ones were quiet

[hearty pollen]

yeah yet my friends motherboard cant power it for some reason

[lyric glacier]

would consider an amp for your friend, or it might be a faulty cable

[hearty pollen]

i tried it with my amp and it did solve the issue

generally confusing because the headphones are really easy to drive and some motherboards cant power it

[lyric glacier]

they can even run fine off of my dualsense

[lyric glacier]

do you know what mobo he is using

or what sound card

[hearty pollen]

pretty sure it was b350 steel legend

or the b450

[lyric glacier]

thats weird lol thats a fine board, might be a software problem and might need to download some drivers

does the pc38x even have software you can use on it?

[hearty pollen]

nope

[hearty pollen]

yeah that's what im thinking

[frosty socket]

@forest lark i refunded it and i’m buying the one with the v8

[tender frost]

So my iems went through the wash

Wonder if they still work lmao

Sick, they do

[unique wind]

scary but W

[steel escarp]

leave them in rice so the asians will break into your house and fix them overnight

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/head-scratch-confused-gif-14061427

[dusky swift]

Sony wf 1000xm5 w purchase or not

[lean grove]

Nah

[lunar jackal]

Reccomendations on the best interface to pair with my Shure SM7B? Budget is pretty large if you can show me why it is justified. I have a Scarlett Solo right now and would like to upgrade to get more out of my mic.

I would like multiple inputs because I do like to mic up my guitar amp occasionally to record. But 2 should be fine.

[quaint drift]

my fkn spinfits keep popping themselves off

[quaint drift]

i think theyre great when you start to see them go cheaper than xm4s on amazon

[lean grove]

there's just better sounding options that aren't nearly as expensive

$350 is a lot of cash

[quaint drift]

Really?

i think theyre pretty close to even the momentum 4s

[lean grove]

if you consider iems a viable option, you can get good audio for less than $100

so yeah.

[quaint drift]

theyre like $250 refurbished

[lean grove]

that still puts it $150 more than iems

[quaint drift]

I understand that point

[lean grove]

(misread your message i am hungover)

[quaint drift]

the convenience of the wireless market is what keeps me updated

[haughty girder]

What generation Solo?

There's only two reasons I can see you needing upgrade:

1. Solo doesn't have enough gain for the SM7B if you're recording quiet things
2. Solo's drivers are being a pain in the ass to deal with

[lunar jackal]

3rd

[haughty girder]

aside from that if you already have a 3rd or 4th gen Solo and it works, I wouldn't bother upgrading

[lean grove]

yeah. im half considering getting a maxwell just to have wireless headphones again. or another qudelix.

wish there were better options but this is the market

[quaint drift]

you can just get one of those thingys that make ur iems into wireless earbuds

[haughty girder]

yea so if you need more xlr inputs then Motu M2 will do the trick, decent drivers, good build, good sound quality. Kinda just does everything fine

[lunar jackal]

Noted. Thank you. After spending all this money on a new mic, I just naturally figured I should upgrade interface as well. But if that's not the case I won't waste money. I only use it for mic or guitar in. My headphones are on a qudelix 5k on a USB

[haughty girder]

Yea then I'd say stick to the solo

[lunar jackal]

If this is the case and there isn't enough gain, should I just do an in-line preamp like a dynamite?

Thank you!

[haughty girder]

You could, but you have two options here:

[lunar jackal]

The mic is in the mail right now, so I'm just asking in advance

[haughty girder]

Solo has a fairly low noise floor, you can boost a bit in software without any issue

A fethead I believe is the cheapest inline preamp you can get and will do the trick, cloudlifter and dynamite are expensive enough that it might be worth just getting a better interface at that point

[lunar jackal]

Money isn't really a problem. Especially if it's a 1 and done

[lean grove]

or just not buy a meme mic that requires so much extra effort to get to a usable level

[haughty girder]

but if it was my money I'd stick to software boosting, it doesn't cost anything and has no noticeable effect (to a extent) to quality

[haughty girder]

I mean he already bought it, it's not that SM7B is a bad mic but rather just too expensive for what it is

It's not quite bright enough for me but it's fine

[lunar jackal]

I had a gift card laying around I forgot I had, so I really got it for like, 250 lol

[lean grove]

im just annoyed that its gets overhyped and how often people buy it without realizing how bad of a choice it was for them.

[haughty girder]

plus having the capsule so far back into the housing also means that it doesn't pick up much background noise

[haughty girder]

yea that's true

[lean grove]

like the other day a guy walks in here asking for an interface because he didnt realize the sm7b needed one

[haughty girder]

oh.

Oh.

(yikes)

[lunar jackal]

If I don't like it I'll just take it to work and use it for my teams calls 🤣

[lean grove]

#tech-chat-1 message

[lunar jackal]

Absolute yikes.

I know about all the audio tech, I just don't know specific brands and models. I know you can get similar performance out of cheaper mics but I see the sm7b used so much and I like the sound people are getting out of it so it was an easy buy for me

[haughty girder]

if you know what you're looking for then nothing really against the SM7B then

[haughty girder]

bruh....

[lean grove]

i will still talk smack about it to fight against the hype

[haughty girder]

streamer effect

[lean grove]

yeah

[haughty girder]

If someone doesn't know what they're looking for, then I'd point em in a different direction for sure

[lunar jackal]

Sidetrack for a second. Do we like the closed back sundaras here?

I need some office cans

[haughty girder]

I've never actually tried em but I didn't like the open Sundaras

and most closed backs suck

[lean grove]

uhhh. i dont think ive seen anyone say anything good about the closed back hifimans

[lunar jackal]

I love my HE400SEs

[lunar jackal]

Noted.

Feel free to throw a reccomendation for 600 bucks or less for closed backs. Bonus points if they are a good match for qudelix 5k cuz I'll take that to work and upgrade the home amp

The budget is loose.

I like open backs a lot so I don't want to over spend on closed

[lean grove]

audeze maxwell and maybe dan clarks

something like an aeon noire but they're kind of inefficient

[lunar jackal]

I will look at these thank you

[supple robin]

any new budget iems recs or are they the same?
im looking at zero:2 or is the simgot ew200 better?

[molten lotus]

im finna return these technics earbuds what other ones should i get

[unique wind]

aeon closed X

[elder thistle]

I love my neumann ndh20

it's different from open backs though. like very little stage, semi-weird tuning like new hd560s

great bass control and detail though

instrument separation monster. much more than hd600

I'd say the dynamics and midrange are on par with hd600 too

they have become my main monitors for music production

[muted mural]

does anybody here know if the konix 9D88 roll up keyboardboard is ok
i havent got room for a full grand digital piano atm
probably wont be moving into my new apartment for at least a year as i brought a apartment for sale
wont be finished been built until i think next february
so roll up keyboard is what im getting for now
im curious about the length of the 88 key one tbh

[high sleet]

i got a fifine a6v today and my stand is so fucking difficult to get onto my mic does anyone know what i’m doing wrong? and no im not doing it the wrong way

[warm scarab]

google

[cobalt sparrow]

thats the standard mic mount, it needs to be PERFECTLY straight up and down or else its not gonna thread. idk why its designed like that, but it will fit.

[high sleet]

you sure? i spent a good 20 mins trying to and i’ve seen reviews of others with the same issue

i’ll try again

i rlly don’t think it works yk i won’t lie

[high sleet]

trust me i’ve tried

[prime elm]

Hello, what rod style microphone does linus use at his home streaimg setup? 🤔

[scarlet wing]

Anyone buy the Xbox Wireless Headset for your PC if you already have the xbox controller USB dongle?

[high sleet]

anyone know what this bit is called? i need to order a new one because the tripod doesn’t fit into it

[lean grove]

I would call that the thread mount

[high sleet]

okay thanks

[reef wagon]

"mic clip thread adapter" is what you're looking for.

[high sleet]

okay thank you

[maiden yarrow]

does anyone know if these are a good combo with my bose for a new mic setup: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=elgato+mic+arm&_dyncharset=UTF-8&_dynSessConf=&id=pcat17071&type=page&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=&sp=&qp=&list=n&af=true&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&keys=keys

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/rde-podmic-dynamic-podcasting-microphone/6393956.p?skuId=6393956

[frosty socket]

any1 know how to fix the buzzing sound with a mic

[toxic sand]

Can anyone here help me, so I have an mv7 and a focus right dac, it works on Mac, and windows, I'm trying to get it to work on Android, it it definitely does. Recording with the microphone has no issue, but going on discord calls it seems to not give any audio from the microphone.

[lunar jackal]

Here's the question I'd ask then. Do you still enjoy just kicking back with them? They are just for tunes in the office. Something can be killer for production and meh for actual enjoyment

[elder thistle]

yeah definitely

but they will reveal a ton about the music

some people don't like that. I personally can't relate as it just sounds like high detail to me

I'd place it on the same level as my hd600 overall, but that's pretty vague

uhh instrument separation is the highest I've heard on a headphone by a pretty large margin

so things like metal music will not cause the headphones to noticeably lose detail with all the instruments playing at once

they're very dynamic

[lunar jackal]

Sounds like I definitely need to check these out

[wise flax]

Cassually got a 300w pa in my bedroom

[warm scarab]

more speakers = better

[lean grove]

That's what they say

[mighty forum]

My hd6xx just came in!

holy fuck. These headphone have a strong af clamp force compared to my 15 year old hd598 which had zero clamping force at EOL

[elder thistle]

yes

actually I bent my hd600 at the headband sliders to solve this

some people stretch it over the box for a day or two instead

but either works

when someone was borrowing my hd600, it was too loose and I had to make this video to demonstrate how to undo it

non-zero risk of busting open the plastic joints particularly if not supported, but this is generally safe

[grand granite]

Is that a power conditioner or a power amp at the bottom

[wise flax]

Is an amp. It’s from a cinema I think as it says metro goldwin Mayer on it

Or however u spell it

[wise flax]

Lol I love the hd6xxs for that reason actually, my 770 pros always felt kinda loosy goosy by comparison

[toxic sand]

I have 770 250ohms and a pretty "standard" audio system with dual 500 watt 11 inch subs

[mighty forum]

they're just so ugly compared to my hd598. I think I'm going to have to take him apart and paint them

[jaunty nova]

sup audio nerds allow me to gently flex the evolution of my goofy ah setup upon ye 💀 ,

[wise flax]

That’d be kewl!

[mighty forum]

Just need to come up 1-4 colors . The grills will be white or light color so then I can stencil spray paint on a design. One side is definitely going to be an expresso cup. I don't know what the other side's going to be yet.

like that

I'm thinking about going with some sort of either pastel colors or a rose gold close to the color of the apple or Dr Dre earbuds. Which actually have real rose gold

Although all the rose gold spray paint I've ever bought has been nowhere close to that real rose gold color I expect. So that's going to take some more research

Sadly my favorite color scheme has been co-opted 😢

[jaunty nova]

pretty noice

the fact the rack is on the bottom of it has me dead 💀

[lunar jackal]

SM7B and DM2 showed up today. pretty happy with the sound!

[warm scarab]

f

[haughty girder]

no what you need is an adapter

[high sleet]

do i? they came together

[haughty girder]

you likely have a 3/8" mount on the tripod, those are 5/8"

they look like this

[high sleet]

the difference is literally miniscule, should it be a noticeable difference?

[high sleet]

but then how do i attach it to the mic

[haughty girder]

you screw it in

[high sleet]

this bit attached to the mic then you would attach the white thing onto the tripod

that’s my issue

so i can’t swap out the thread inside the white thing

[high sleet]

i need the white thing to attach it to the mic

[haughty girder]

wait

[haughty girder]

wdym

[haughty girder]

is the tripod threads bigger or smaller

[high sleet]

tripod thread is too big to go into the white thing

the white thing clamps onto the mic itself

then you screw the white thing into the tripod

[haughty girder]

Ohhh so your mic has a 3/8" and your tripod is 5/8"

[high sleet]

so what can i do?

[haughty girder]

so what you need is this

the thin side goes into the mic

bottom side into tripod

[high sleet]

ah okay thank you

[haughty girder]

5/8" to 3/8" mic adapter

[harsh heron]

This the best spot to mount them on the wall?

Like dis

[haughty girder]

given your limited space yea

if you could move your PC further out you could put it on stands on your desk so the tweeters are ear level that'd be optimal

otherwise just mount em in a way that you could get roughly an equilateral triangle between the speakers and your head and point the tweeters at your ears

it'll do

[molten lotus]

Been using the new Fiio KA11 DAC with my K371 the last few days and it's amazing. Much improvement in terms of volume and audible range compared to my stock DAC that came with my phone.

If you are looking for a compact DAC that's affordable this is definitely a solid choice.

No MQA decoding support for you Tidal users however.

[wise flax]

bebe marshall thang i have for bgm in my room

[flat gulch]

Hey guys, I have a speaker issue where the beginning of sounds after silent parts gets cut off or muffled. Any ideas on how to fix this?

[warm scarab]

is it an active speaker

[flat gulch]

not sure its just a really generic soundbar i got, no brand model no or anything

[lean grove]

My guess would be that the speaker is going into a low power mode, but it's a bit too aggressive.

So like most systems would go to sleep after like 5-15 minutes of silence.

[flat gulch]

so mine is just doing that but after like 2 seconds instead of 5 minutes

[lean grove]

Yeah.

My DAC does it after 1 minute.

And it's just a guess.

It might be something else

But as of now I have no idea how you can fix that without just having some quiet music playing in the background at all times.

[flat gulch]

womp

[warm scarab]

@flat gulch try turning up the volume of your computer/tv

and lowering the soundbars volume

to balance it out

[flat gulch]

ive done that

tried everything i could for a week~

[warm scarab]

what about vice versa

[flat gulch]

its worse

[warm scarab]

and is this a recent issue

[flat gulch]

yeah it was working fine for abt a month

[warm scarab]

may be a damaged wire

replace the cables if you can

[flat gulch]

ok

[pliant sierra]

Hey, im thinking about getting this Record Player. https://www.coolblue.de/produkt/860424/sony-ps-lx310bt.html?region_id=448875&cmt=c_a%2Ccid_19584941887%2Caid_142625414862%2Ctid_pla-338759667493%2Cgn_g%2Cd_c&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=shopping&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw88yxBhBWEiwA7cm6pYfJRCDuwWDnQ7SnPAE7TTvLs64reBoBkWoqxRe_RFI9-lyoyF0yRhoC6icQAvD_BwE

What im asking for is, what else do i need in terms of equipment to get the best Experience? And what differenciates a Record Player from normal listening through spotify?

[warm scarab]

basically thing of record players in three different categories

A: Tunetable/Tonearm B: Stylus/cartridge C:Phono Amplifier

C: a phono preamplifier basically takes the weird signal of a turntable that's not fit for listening and turns in into a normal form of audio

for this you either get a standalone phono preamplifier or use the one built into your turntable if it has one, its a subject of debate depending on the turntable/preamp but it's not too important

A: the turntable and the tonearm is also not highly important, its essentially a disk that spins at a fixed speed and a tonearm attached to it, the only thing that matters is the aesthetic, whether the tonearm has an adjustable counterweight and tonearm mass, the tonearm mass matters when you are pairing a cartridge/stylus with your tonearm and can create a unique profle

B: The stylus/cartridge which is the most important part of the entire vinyl experience. 90% of the outcoming sound from your turntable is a result of the stylus you are using, its common to see people use like 200$ turntables with 10000$ styluses because of how significantly important they are. They are the deciding factor in the sound you get and how low of a damage your records get over time playing them.

For your last question "And what differenciates a Record Player from normal listening through spotify?" is open to interpretation, vinyl to most hobbyists is about pairing different tonearms, cartridges and amplifiers to customize their sound in a way to their liking, and there are also stuff like pink floyd albums that were recorded onto a record and then digitalized into spotify later, with songs like those its a better way of experiencing them.

But if you want objectively "correct" audio or something close to it, spotify will btfo any record player, record players are expensive, records cost money, they can be hard to maintain and clean, styluses can cost anywhere between 50$ to infinity

If all you want is a listening experience honestly stick to spotify, save yourself the headache but if you want to pursuit a niche hobby despite the inconveniences and spend money on it then go ahead

@pliant sierra

[sweet grove]

Can I get people's opinion on a Blue Yeti microphone from Logitech? I am looking for a good microphone mostly for talking to people online and maybe some streaming in the future if anyone has any suggestions I'd love to hear them

Mostly looking at the Yeti since i've heard good things about it and it's currently on sale

[lean grove]

Overpriced meme.

[sweet grove]

even if it's £20 off?

[lean grove]

How much is it after the discount

[lean grove]

Yeah still overpriced.

[warm scarab]

overpriced af

[sweet grove]

What would you suggest

[lean grove]

There's nothing that the yeti does that justifies it over a $20 mic from fifine.

[lean grove]

Samson q2u on a boom arm.

[warm scarab]

it has multidirectional mode

which is a thing that exists

[lean grove]

🤯

[warm scarab]

that isn't necessary for 99% of the use cases

so you are being incredibly disrespectful

[sweet grove]

im just wanting something that can record my voice ill suond good when i speak into it that kinda thing

[warm scarab]

so a 20$ fifine then

[livid ruin]

k669b would be perfectly fine for that

[sweet grove]

also for streaming so I don't want it to sound terrible and wanting good mic quality

[warm scarab]

t669 is better it comes with an arm

[livid ruin]

or something along those lines

[warm scarab]

okay

so a 20$ fifine then

I don't follow what the problem is

[lean grove]

In that case I recommend getting a Samson q2u on a boom arm.

[sweet grove]

I'm looking on Amazon the Samson is normally about the same price as the Yeti's discounted price but the Samson is also discounted so its a good bit cheaper

[lean grove]

Something like the elgato wave would also be a good alternative since it has a software suite that is gonna be useful for voice processing

But it's nothing that obs can't do for free

[warm scarab]

or eq apo

you can't call yeti overpriced then recommend the wave nils

[lean grove]

Yeah but eq apo is about as enjoyable as eating fingernails out of an ashtray

[warm scarab]

its an eq

what sort of enjoyment are you seeking

[lean grove]

Yes but every time I turn around there's a new windows update which breaks it

[sweet grove]

yeah the wave does seem quite expensive even if its discounted price

[warm scarab]

omg dark theme so worth 100$

[frosty socket]

my mic sounds insanely good in voicemeeter but horrible in discord can any1 help

[warm scarab]

you are facing divine punishment for allowing windows updates

[frosty socket]

its like cutting out alot and my voice is kind of glitchy

[warm scarab]

its completely your fault

[lean grove]

And I suffer every day for it

[lean grove]

Turn off advanced voice activity and crisp and all that jazz

In voice and video settings

[frosty socket]

i turned off everything

[lean grove]

Then idk man might be your internet

[warm scarab]

how did you test this

[frosty socket]

in discords test audio

[warm scarab]

discord test audio is fucked

[frosty socket]

and in voicemeter i changed my hardware out to listen to myself

[warm scarab]

and is not at all how your voice sounds like to other people

[maiden yarrow]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samson-q9u-xlr-usb-dynamic-broadcast-microphone/6428835.p?skuId=6428835

anyoen know if this is okay

[warm scarab]

go add a voice recording bot to a discord you are an admin in

[maiden yarrow]

will likely be paired with sony xm5s

[frosty socket]

can u link me one

[warm scarab]

you will see that it sounds fairly close to how it is in vb banana

[warm scarab]

I can't

[frosty socket]

also do u know how to remove hiss?

[warm scarab]

what mic